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Derek Juan our director, the voice of God. How are you getting ready
for Whistler? Oh yeah, it's road trip today. You and I,
Well, we're not going together, but we're we'll be in separate cars.
But it's still people know how that works. Yeah, we're still a road
trip. Still a road trip. Heading up to Whistler to golf at the
Whistler Golf Club tomorrow with a couple of our listeners slash viewers and we're looking
forward to it. What a track it is, great track, great track
golf. I don't know. Many years ago with it was me, Rick
Ball and Dave Dickinson, the former Lions quarterback. We had a great time.
I can't remember who the fourth guy was, but it was the three
of us and one other guy and we had a good time. It's a
beautiful course. So that is tomorrow. We look forward to that. Meanwhile,
Hockey Canucks Jonathan Lacaramackie Canucks draft pick, first round draft draft pick from
the last year. You have an update. Yeah, he's getting close to
signing in the SHL, Donnie. That's a league up. He played in
the lower league this year. He's moving up or brow Uh. I just
talked to the GM there Nicholas Ericson or helped me out. I don't know.
Is that how Ryan help me out? Is that how you pronounced let's
go with that or guess as good as mine. Anyways, I just talket
it maybe not guys. Talked to the ORB or bro GM and Nicholas Ericson.
Good guy. He's had a couple of meetings with Lacaramacke. Nothing clear
yet. Should find out in the next couple of days. Lacaramacki's North American
agent, Donnie is a Jerry Johansson good guy him at Scott Bonner. Jerry
said, it's looking good in Orbro for him, So we should find out.
Here's my concern done, Uh, is he going to be moving up
into the highest league in Sweden? Donn is he gonna get a top six
roll? Or is he going to be a bottom six roll? It's always
the ebbs and flows, God to challenge yourself. But Donnie, if he
gets that's a tough league, that's those teams are good. If he's stuck
in a bottom six roll there, then that's not good for his development.
So these are all things that I'm sure the Canucks and Jerry and Lacaramackie have
all thought about. Um, yeah, but do you not think that the
Canucks want to see him in that top high But you know, what about
dominating the league you're in before you move up a league? You a lot
of people, Well you could argue that maybe he did that in the postseason,
like his playoffs are better out for his regular season. That's a good
point, you know. And he had mono and there were a lot of
health concerns during and if indeed he signs with we're going with Orbro? Are
we? Ryan? Listen? Ryan, can you google Orbal? See if
why asking me? I have no idea. Did you you mentioned all these
Patterson? Yeah, that's what I was gonna says? What about him?
Well, he'll have Cannuck company with this team? Right? Oh? The
defenseman you mean? Yeah, the Cannucks drop picks Patterson. Defenseman plays on
Orbro And uh, it wouldn't it be nice to have both those guys on
Orbal. It would make things a lot easier for people who are really invested
in the Canucks instead of, you know, following two teams just to follow
one over there. Who's the Canucks scout over there? Samuelson? He does
a good job with all those. Michael, Yeah, Michael, who is
honestly? Honestly, you look at the stats. One of the great pick
by Mike gillis when Mike was in charge, right, Yes, he's very
good. During the twenty eleven campaign, we take our shots at Mike,
but he he did a great getting him and not a lot of people talk
about it. Check out his stats from from that year. He was a
valuable valuable player and he's helping the Canucks out again. Okay, Yeah,
he's he's part of the Canucks regime and he does a wonderful job. Donnie.
Have talked to scouts over there who say he's been really good with the
development of the kids Canuck picked in Sweden. Okay. Also Cannock News.
We're going to get to the National Hockey League playoffs in a second, but
we're going to talk about the Canucks who aren't in the National Hockey League playoffs.
M Victoria. The Knocks are going to hold their cap next season or
in September, in Victorious September twenty first to twenty fifth, to be exact.
At last year in Whistler. It'll be their first time in Victorias since
twenty nineteen. They've been they've been there before. I like it when they
move around the province. They've been an atmosphere before. I remember several training
camps in Duncan with the big hockey stick, Courtney, Vernon, Camloops.
I just I just think it speaks to how much they care or should care
about the whole province. Prince George one year, Yeah, and it's a
provincial team. Everyone thinks, you know, take it all over the province
and let everybody the Canucks fan base is just not in Vancouver. It's all
over the province, every single city. And when you take it to other
places, Donny, it's a good thing. Yeah. I remember them holding
their training camp right at the start of the Sadine's career in Stockholm, that's
right. And remember the which is not in NBC. Yeah, when I
think of the Canucks in washouldn't say this. When I think of NHL training
camps in Victoria, and again the Canucks are going to be there in September,
I don't think of the Canucks. Remember the La Kings had a sixteen
year run, yes, with their training camp in Victoria, and it was
such a big, big deal. In nineteen eighty eight, Wayne Gretzky his
first go round with the La Kings. He's in Victoria for remember that,
And that city was on fire, on fire. There's a whole lot of
attention paid to Victoria that year, and rightfully so beautiful city home of Czech
by the way, in case yea, in case you didn't know that,
but I remember that. But sixteen years in Victoria, and I was reminded
of this and I forgot all about this, but the Canucks first I think
three or four training camps were held in Alberta, Calca Kelson hat. This
is obviously before before the NHL made its way to Alberta, but its first
few camps were well Alberta, yep. And I guess they just wanted to
be more isolated and away from fans and media and just focus on work.
And things were different than it was a you know, a week or two
week long training camp. Guys had to get into shape. It was all
business, even though with players back in that day, it wasn't all business
during the oh now, they got out of shape a lot, a lot
of them. To their defense, they were working, some of them would
honestly that you can read Philosophosito's book. I mentioned it the other day.
They would work in mills or whatever they farms and not always in hockey shape.
So it took a while. So and they got away from everybody in
Vancouver, and I vaguely remember them being in Alberta. Donny. In those
days, you use training camp to get in shape. Now, like I
don't want to be that guy that shows up to camp and and and Rick
talkin says, you're out of shape. That guy's in trouble. That guy's
he's he's bought hisself a one way ticket on town. Now you've got to
be in shape. Twenty four seven, twelve months of the year. You
got to eat right. You got to work out. You see it at
your minor hockey level kids. They are working out NonStop. They're they're eating
right. You in the old days, you use okay, I got a
frog and throw you sound like you just ate something. You're ripping up.
Now you to smoke cigarettes, used to drink beer sometimes on the ice.
I'm talking about back in the day. And then you use training camp,
Donny to get in shape. Nowadays, boy oh boy, you better be
in camp day one in shape. And the last time the Canucks Donnie,
we're in Victoria two nineteen guests who showed up out of shape and it was
a big story and he got pushed to the American Hockey League kids, Jake
virtannin by Travis Green. Travis warned him, he said, you got to
come in these got your numbers got to be here. Numbers weren't there.
And he was skating with the American Hockey League group last year they held their
camp in Whistler. We're heading up to Whistler. Nothing but respect from one
of the most beautiful spots on this planet. However, yeah, I don't
know what the stats are, but I swear and look at the season the
Canucks had. It was disappointing. Every year the Canucks go to Whistler,
they have a poor season. Again, all due respect to the beautiful town.
Is at a town, a village city. All due respect beautiful to
Whistler. Okay, I do and I remember this nineteen ninety six World Cup
Team Canada had its training camp and Whistler. What happened? Yeah, they
ended up losing. They ended the final to the Americans. Yeah, and
it was a It was a real disappointing event for Team Canada. I don't
know what, you know, they do a lot of golfing when they were
back in the day they did. I mean, Rick, you know what
it was like back you go to training camp back in the day. Yeah,
you you're on the ice a lot. They were also you know,
on fairways and greens a lot. That says, well, helped me out.
It was either Dave known as or Brian Burke. They were in Whisner
and one of the two said, Brian's anti golf. I don't like it.
These guys are going to golf too much in Whisner. The beautiful courses
in Whister, of course are beautiful Whister Golf Club. But there's too many
golf courses. These guys are gonna hit the ice, They're gonna go right
off from the ice to the tea. He didn't like it. Yeah,
Yeah, Alex mcgildy likes his golf. Oh he was golfer too, Alex.
He actually he started later, like relatively speaking in life and got a
really good uh. He was a character and lucky for the conduction and management.
There aren't any golf courses in Victoria, in the Victoria area, so
it should it should all work out. Just nah, they got beautiful courses
in a Bear Mountain, beautiful beautiful. Okay, Um, we got time,
Yeah, we got time to talk about what's happening with the National Hockey
League class. Is there an organization and they're the first team to advance to
a conference final? Is there an organization? You have more respect for it
than the Carolina Hurricanes sustained success there and then they had a you know,
Stanley Cup back in the day when Rod was a captain, but just just
lately, just you know, they were one of these franchises where you thought
to yourself, they moved from Hartford, which had a decent history, to
to Carol, what do you, Carolina? What are you? What are
you doing? It just it didn't make a whole lot of sense. You
know, sun Belt City more into football and basketball. It's it's never gonna
work in it. It took a long time, but you look at that
crowd and yeah, you know, the interest may just be regional not national
notation, but it definitely is there. Rick. They're missing three star players,
three players you can add a whole lot of offense in Terravinen, Patch
Ready and Speciff, no problem. You know. Uh they end up winning
in five games and over over New Jersey. It just seems that they're just
so workmanlike and smart and coach it really is. You know, it's the
coach, don't him. Did you hear Ethan Bart talk about Carolina? Yea,
yeah, how structure and every player knew where to go after each face
off. Well, I think that was the ultimate compliment. I know I've
said this before. Ethan Bart did not have a great go but but he's
still Usually players are better and they don't they won't say positive things. But
he had nothing but positive things to say about Carolina. There were again,
there was a COVID issue with Ethan, but I thought that was almost the
ultimate compliment. Here's a player who didn't have a completely positive expense in Carolina
for understandable reasons, and he still had nothing but compliments for the coaching staff.
Johnnie five trips to the Eastern Conference Final in twenty one years, and
Rod Brindamore was a part of those five trips. Every time, as a
player or an assistant coach or a head coach, they're making the Eastern Final
every four years. And then you sit there and you wonder what this city's
been through in the last eleven years. It's just no kidding, ridiculous stars
over the crack in five two. And let me say this about respect for
franchises. I know it's only been two years, but you can't help but
have respect for the Seattle Cracking. And I say that because I know they're
down three two in the series and they lost last night. They were down
three nothing and they came back to make it three two. You know,
just hustle effort. It was. It was pretty impressive. I mean,
I understand, you know, the stars are up and they're impressive too,
But again, respect for organizations, and I really liked what I think everybody
has liked what they've seen from the Seattle Crack in this year. And uh,
they're never out of it. They come back. They make a close
last night. But Donnie, I gotta ask you a questions, rupe a
hint? Who had him? You got him in your hockey pool? Because
point he's tied with Leon dry Cital for the NHL leading points. Remember when
he signed for eight and a half or whatever it was, and everyone said
that's going to be a comparable for bow Horvett, and it absolutely was.
Pat Morris absolutely loved that contract because that's exactly what Pat Morris got from the
Islanders for bow Horvett. It was a comparable. But this guy, you
know, you know, nobody ever talks about him. He's just he's a
big piece of one of the big Literally, he's a big Guy's a horse.
Yeah, he's a horse out there. And I mean two goals,
won assist last night. They're big guys showed up last night. Robertson three
points and merohis Donnie twenty six minutes last and what does it say he play
comes back off the face in injury. He can't even recognize him as cheek
is so swollen. And you mentioned twenty six minutes last night game before that
with the thirty one minutes what a hockey player. I don't think people talk
enough about him as one of the great defensemen of the National Hockey League.
The reason Dallas has done so well. Also, I want to talk about
the Leafs and we'll do that maybe maybe later on. We also will have
to introduce the Conock related poll question. We'll do that in the third segment.
Oilers at Vegas Tonight. I know a lot of attention in this country
is paid to the Leaves, but this series has taken over in terms of
interest for me, just because they clearly hate each other. Nasty. It's
getting nasty and nat And in line with that, darna Ail Nurse gets the
one game suspension for the instigator in fraction. Okay, at the end of
the last game and Alex petri Angelo, you got to hear some of the
Vegas types them justifying what he did to Leon dry Side. There's no justification.
He gets a game suspension. So those two, no matter what you
think of them, folks, great defenseman, are out kind of canceling each
other. This was kind of a gimme for the National Hockey League in a
way. They got lucky that way. Petro Angelo should have got more.
I am sorry, I'm shocked, shocked he didn't get more. I mean,
visually it did not look good for him. Oh absolutely, indis don't
look good. And the thing that made me believe that he might get more
is because of who he did this exactly, a star player in Leon drey
Sidle. Laying on the ice might have been the end of his playoffs.
And you hear some word out of Vegas that all wasn't a big deal.
He targeted his elbow pack like come on, like it was ridiculous. I
mean, his stick was up so high. Look at this. It's not
great for our podcast list. Optics don't look good for him at all.
So he got happened in the regular seas in December, Bunny, Yeah,
is it different? I would think so. I would think so, But
again, nurse nurses uh second on the oilers in ice time, Petro Angelo
is first on the on the Vegas nights in ice time. I believe he's
got six points, six assists, no goals, no nurse, no goals
for us. Is so really really similar, big tough, strong, effective
defenseman and they both will not be playing in that next game. Yes,
yeah, Okay, here's what's coming up. A right show DTMZ is just
me coming up in the next hour. Farhand Lolgi will talk to us about,
among other things, the latest on the SFU football program. They weren't
successful with the injunction, but SFU has said we're talking about the football program
up at SFU, which has been cut, but the admin up at SFU
says that's going to look into resurrecting the program for twenty two, which is
awesome. We'll talk to Farhand about that big Ride the Twitter guy coming up
later this hour and up next from the Athletic, we talked about the Canucks
in the training camp going to Victoria, the latest on Jonathan Lakiramackie Thomas drafts.
From the Athletic. Thanks so much for tuning in, folks. Hope
you're going to have yourself a great weekend. Donnie and Donnie the team on
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So I was in your business where you can help? It is Friday
and how appropriate is this? As we make our way up there. All
of our guests today are brought to you by the Whistler Golf Club. Tomorrow,
oh over the unifollowing up tonight actually gonna be nice, okay. Jonathan
Lacaramackie, it looks like he's headed to the sweetest first division Arboro. There
you go. So there's that Knocks training camp we found out yesterday in twenty
twenty three will be held in September in Victoratoria for the first time since twenty
nineteen. They've been there multiple times, but the first time since twenty and
nineteen. Here to talk about that in all matters Canuck from the Athletic Thomas
Drands. How are you, sir? Oh look look I'm doing well.
Boys. How are you guys? I'm telling you I'm jealous? Is how
I am? Ye? You are hots activated? Oh yeah, it's like
forty degrees here. I already got my morning hike in with the dog.
Had to be out at like six am and just to make sure that he
didn't overheatum. So yeah, no, it's nice down in California, but
you guys are in first scorcher this weekend, so we are enjoy it,
enjoy the sunshine. Wow. I would imagine even though you're on vacation,
although you're never on vacation, you're you're always working no matter where you are.
I'd imagine you've caught the last of the latest Canucks ad campaign. Structure,
habits, standard are UK with all of that, what they focused on,
I am, I just don't think any of those things are like goals,
right, It's like asking it's like asking me what I hope to accomplish
in this hit, and it's like I'd like to speak English, be basically
competent, and wear a shirt with lemons on it. You know, Like,
I mean, that's a minimum requirement. That's not a goal. That's
not like being insightful or like providing value to your audience or continuing and getting
get paid by you guys, Like those are goals, you know, Structure,
habits, standards like come on, that's a minimum requirement stuff. You
know. It's it's tough, I think to sell a vision of like cold
incremental professionalism when this organization hasn't proven that they can do that right. And
moreover, when in terms of how they've handled themselves, in terms of how
they've approached building his team. You know, it's not like we're going through
a slow cook here, right, It's not like we're going building block by
building block and trying to be part of the journey. This team's still intent
on microwaving a contender. And I don't know, like it's hard to sell
a cold vision of you know, a professional, process driven organization when like
you can't even hold summer workouts without getting fine right, you can't even fire
your coach without it being national news, like you know, show us you
can get the small stuff right first and then selling you're getting paid for these
hits. I had no idea, Hey, how important is it? How
important is it that the Jonathan like Karamaki, moves up a notch, moves
up a level over in Sweden. Well, he was up a level in
his draft gear, right, Like he's played in the SHL before and had
success. But you know, I mean, I think it's good in that
he needs to do really well, Like he had a really strong conclusion to
the season, And I want to be clear before I start here that I'm
not critical of the Canucks for picking him. I liked the pick, especially
based on what he did in his seventeen year old season, in his draft
eligible campaign. But he really took a step back this year, and there's
a lot of context for why. And the season did end with a strong
performance in the playoffs, but there are, you know, a ton of
reasons to be deeply concerned with the year that he put together, like to
the point where I was a little bit surprised, not overwhelmingly surprised, but
a little bit surprised that the club decided to sign him to an entry level
deal when they did, given that, you know, if he didn't get
back on track next season, there was a path to get a compensatory second
round pick in a couple of years. Like I thought the club might want
to manage their risk there. They didn't. They signed him to an ELC
obviously last week, and fair enough, you know, you sign your first
overall pick, it makes sense. It's just it's a it's not a completely
risk free decision by the club given the way that he tracked in his draft
plus one season. Fact is is that like scoring wingers who produced the way
that he did. As eighteen year old players in the els venskin, they
don't tend to make the NHL like. They don't tend to be impact NHL
players. You know, he had the mono thing, the concussion thing,
the lower body injury late in the year. I think we can cut him
slack. He's still an enormously talented prospect. I'm not low on him so
much as you know, I do think his like, the stakes are high
for him in his draft plus two year next season to show that he's able
to get back on track and still be looking like or tracking like you'd expect
from an NHL prospect. Thomas, Yeah, yesterday or day before, we
found out the Canucks are in a whole lot of cap problems. Uh,
what do you mean we've found out? Yeah? Just well, y'all listen
to me since the Heronic trade that this was coming. Okay, will you
let me ask the question before you start attacking me. Okay, listen,
Who's to blame? A good question? No, but who's to blame more?
Our poll question yesterday? Elvin or Benning? Jim Benning's got the three
bad ones, zoel Myers and Garland. But this regime has added twenty two
million dollars in the last year and a half as well, Thomas, where
does the fault lie? Yeah, I mean bull bull. You know,
Garland I don't think deserves to be lumped in with Myers and Oel. First
of all, why, I mean, huh, why they're trying They've been
trying to get rid of him since day one? Thomas, Well, because
he's at least a credible middle six guy, Like you know, if he
if Garland's a free agent, he probably makes at least three million, So
it's he's overpaid, but it's only by a couple mill um. You know,
Myers and Oliver Eckman Larson, that's those are different caliber of inefficient contracts.
Like those guys are both paid in the top thirty for NHL defenseman Like,
they're not paid to be top bear guys. They're paid to be number
one d in terms of their cap costs. And you know, at least
this past season they were like negative wins above replacement by just about any metric
you look at. So they're totally different world than Garland. In my view,
Garland's still not a great deal, but I mean, how much less
efficient is the Garland contract than the Brock Besser contract which this management group signed.
Right, I mean, the only issue is that Garland's a little bit
smaller and one year longer. But he had thirty one five on five points,
Like, yeah, I mean, he had basically the same level of
five on five production as J. T. Miller. He doesn't play power
play one. You know, he works like he works. He's a good
player. He's just maybe not a fit on a team that's already a little
undersized and needs more than the Wings. No, fundamentally, this management group
inherited a bunch of bad money and a poorly constructed team from Jim Bennett.
That part is undeniable. Okay, so there is some fault that lies with
Jim Benny, but they've made their own choices since their own choices, since
they extended JT. Miller, they went out and signed Elia mccayef Right,
you might like both players, but they're still making choices in terms of how
to allocate their money. Right, they decided to do that compromise three year
contract with Rock Beesser. They inherited a tough situation, a tough negotiation because
of the structure of his second contract, But nonetheless that was their call,
their decision. They're deciding how to spend their budget. Right, you then
go into this deadline and they take money back for the for ball Horvat,
a trade that was well out of step with how the rest of the market
unfolded as we got to the trade deadline, and they bought Philip her Ok,
you know, for future sending no money out in the deal, and
did so from twenty seventh in the NHL and point percentage on the day they
completed that trade. By the time you do all of that, like you've
made your own decisions, you know. It's one thing. It's one thing
to say like they were a little bit limited in what they could achieve because
they inherited a tough situation, and I would say, yes, that's fair.
But once you're handed a thousand bucks, it's yours to budget, you
know what I mean. Like this club knew what their budget should be.
They talked about not wanting to be a cap team that was out of the
playoff picture, and then they've gone out and made their own decisions. They've
bought their groceries and on and on, and at the end of the month,
they can't afford to pay the electric electrical bill. Like, yeah,
it's partly on the person who's given you too little, but it's also on
you to budget what you get. Right, they didn't inherit an ideal situation,
but even given those constraints, they've done a really poor job being fiscally
prudent within the tough situation that they inherited. And it's going to come at
a cost this offseason more than likely, whether it's in the term, whether
it's in the form of buyouts, a trade we don't like. On the
day it's made like, there's going to be a bill that comes due here,
and you know it's going to make this offseason awfully difficult for the club.
What's on tap the rest of the day for you, M'm probably probably
open a can or two in about an hour, and yeah, I think
we're gonna have burgers for dinner. We're gonna go out into Palm Desert this
evening. So should we should be fun. I've got I've got you know,
four friends down here right now, so we're having a nice time.
They're here for the weekend and then a couple more weeks in Cali. I'll
do a couple more hits in this hat, gentleman. And then and then
I'll be back in town for June. Can't wait, but it could be
better. Thanks Thomas, appreciate it. Have a good one. Sorry,
I'm I'm sorry for for all your question, bad records, just that we
knew that these problems were coming. Let me finish the question. You cut
me off. He's used to it. Yeah, thanks Thomas. Thanks guys.
How good habits by you bet? Shot up Thomass down there in California
and enjoying himself. Yeah, although we mentioned it too. The weather this
week or this weekend, it's supposed to be just crazy. I don't love
it. I'm not a hot guy. I'm not I'm not a heat guy.
It used to be hot. That's too hot. It's not good.
Yeah, I agree. Air conditioning do you have it? No? No,
we're not like Toronto. Everyone's got do you have? I don't got
it? I got I don't have it. That's why I don't much money.
Do you mean just you can't help out your everybody in Toronto has got
an air conditioning. Well, it's happening here. It's not a house in
Toronto that doesn't happen we've got We've got neighbors right now. They've resisted for
years and they're like, screw it. In goes the air conditioning. It's
being done. It's getting done, and we got it done last year.
Man. I'm telling you, I just go to the big difference. It's
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That's the Canucks new ad focusing on structure, habits and standards, and so
our bet and nine dot net pull question. Rick every game, every NHL
commercial begins at ninety nine dot net and our bet ninety nine dot net pull
question, what do you think of the connect structure, habits and standards ad
campaign? And right now fifty five percent say don't care. Look, there's
been no playoffs in this city seven of the last eight years. Donnie and
I could see why people don't care. They're getting fed up and no gimmick
is going to change this. What's going to change this? Is with a
vision and a plan. They haven't had a vision and a plan for eleven
years and that's why they're in this mess. And as we've had a ton
of text into our delaneyes, okay, tiring Langley inbox, it starts at
the top with the ownership. As for the ad campaign, thirty two and
a half percent say hate it and a couple of things. Ryan made a
good point yesterday, although I argued it against it, that they didn't emphasize
their star players, and you know, you know, on second thought,
I'm wondering why they did. Maybe they don't expect some of their star players
to be around, uh come September in Victoria. The other thing, and
this is nothing against JT. Miller. You know, they took an old
interview of his and in it he says, during that ad campaign. You
probably caught it there, folks, it's not about wins or losses. A
lot of people are saying, yeah, it is about wins and losses.
Wins and losses. Why did you put that in the ad? Filt Some
people had some problems with that, but now you know what, Uh,
I think somebody said said yesterday that that was a shot, that that ad
was a shot another shot at Bruce Boudrow and the structure was structured all about
it from Jim Rutherford, So, um, well they got to put Thomas
trans made a very good point. Those things should all be those should all
be Gimmi's right. It should be assumed that you care about your habits,
your structure. So there's that Andy standards that you're you're keeping. You think
the care a line of hurricanes when they're done, or gonna have an ad
talking about habits and culture and you know they have that right now they have
it. But again, on second thought, it is interesting and Ryan,
how are you good Swall that they didn't put or they didn't talk about their
star players there. And maybe one of the reasons are they don't know what's
going to happen. One of the responses from Craig here. They are advertising
things that should be assumed. It's embarrassing. It's like a restaurant advertising they're
going to start flipping burgers the same way every time instead of advertising a fresh,
new menu and new chef. Yeah, kind of like what Drand said
and what I said, restaurant restaurant advertising them they're going to wash dishes exactly
like I just come around to your way. I think you see the organization
has just fallen like so far that like standards, one of the problem is
as you do, and maybe one of the reasons is because we don't they
don't know what's going to happen with their players, right, just as a
may seem still like Patrick Aveen talking about in that thing about you know,
standards as a Canuck. Hasn't that been something that's been laid down for decades
here? Well maybe they're saying it, has it right? Three coaches holding
a second, Three coaches and two years tells you there wasn't enough. There
wasn't enough. But then this is relatively new group, right, Yeah,
so Ryan, it's been three coaches in two years. It tells you that
not much was going right. It's just it's just like because the other thing
we brought up yesterday is how there's no mention in this new ad about playoffs
are Stanley Cup? Right? And it's just again it's this reluctance with this
organization, but they're not can't use the word rebuild, don't say that,
it can only be a retool, And you can't say your goals the Stanley
Cup in the playoffs because if it doesn't happen, we don't want to look
bad man. But which would have been a good idea because the assumption about
and look, I think and both of you agree with me, that this
group, not necessarily the new management group of the owners group group doesn't read
the market all that well. It's not about people want to see a Stanley
Cup here, yea. And the way you do it is to accumulate young
talent and it's not being done to the satisfaction of a lot of a lot
of people. The owner had the choice when Trevor Lyndon said rebuild, then
he said no because the other guy said I'm going to fix it in two
three years. So he said no to the rebuilt, but he believed the
guy that said he was going to fix it in two three years. That's
they're in this mess because of that right now. And I've seen a lot
of people lately bring up, well, how the Leaf's done since they won
the lottery, And I mean it looks there's no straight every year. Yeah,
exactly. They don't make a lot off series, but they're in the
playoffs absolutely, and you you know there is by the way, there is
the belief some people in the center of the universe believe that's a that's a
cup of contender. I'm not exactly sure why this team does it not hurt
to see Freddy Anderson doing and he's doing in Carolina. I think he's fine.
Oh, we've had a couple of people in the delaneus. Okay,
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I know you you want to talk about this. Ryan another angle and you'll
do that in the Big Rye the Twitter guy segment, but NFL regular season.
They released the schedule yesterday. It begins Thursday, September or seventh.
Kansas City Chiefs defending Super Bowl champions against the upstart Detroit Lions. You wouldn't
think a couple of years old that would be a big matchup, but a
lot of people there's some buzz around the Detroit Lions so that they're gonna kick
things off. On Wednesday, they announced they're gonna have five international games,
three of them in London. Two of those London games evolving the Jacksonville Jaguars
or who regularly go over to England. Another two games in Germany. But
all of that has resurrected this talk about the possibility of a Super Bowl being
held in London in the near future. I don't like it. Yeah,
that's interesting. I think that one of my first takes on that is that
you know, you've got this country, the United States of America, that's
done a pretty damn good job of supporting the National Football League, and you're
gonna take your big event over to England and it might be the best thing
for business. I don't know if it's respectful, no, no, and
it's go look at the super Bowl numbers in the US, they're asked astro
what's the word, I'm astronomical. Astronomical and he almost got censored there.
Hundred million? Would they get those numbers? If? I don't know.
Things come down to business though, So if that does happen, I wouldn't
be total surprise because the eyeballs, you know, wouldn't be increased there.
I will say this to Donnie's point when he talks about, you know,
hockey in this country. I wonder if the eyeballs would change at all in
terms of viewership with London. But yeah, because what a super Bowl will
kick off at a time good for the United States, it won't be good
for people in London. They get a kick off at eight o'clock at night
or something that the other thing will be done to midnight or one, so
to still kick off at the normal time in the States. So do people
really care? Right now? So this year's super Bowl is in Vegas,
next year's is in New Orleans, and so it's twenty twenty six right now
that it has the opening, and there's reports that taught him. Yeah,
and the Hodge Avenue building they are going to go after twenty twenty six.
And it's interesting because the flip side of this whole coin is UEFA. They've
apparently been talking about having Champions League matches in North America and people in Europe
are pissed about that, thought, why are you taking that over there?
You know, come on, you know it's the exact mirror image of the
NFL. If they did that with the Super Bowl, taking it over there
in terms of the game time and kickoff, they would cater, of course
to the North American audience and what makes sense for North American television, but
in terms of people in the building, they would have enough people going over
there easily along with Europeans. Give me no problem, corporate sponsorship, all
of that. Goodella is obsessed. My guess is it will happen because louder
than anything else, and he is. Goodella is obsessed with growing the game.
And that's why they keep going to London, That's why they've gone to
Germany, that's why they've gone to Mexico. Like this is this is all
but it's about and it's funny when when they have those games and you watch
someone television, this is myself. I watched them and I have to be
reminded that they're Oh, the games in London, games in Mexico, Yeah,
don't they don't look look any different. But no, get it.
You get a different you get a different audience and a new audience being introduced.
I don't know what the numbers are. I'm sure those games overseas and
the games in Mexico have worked. The only experiment that didn't work was Toronto.
That was a disaster. Rodgers was in charge and it was like three
hundred dollars for the worst seat in the house, and the Bills were terrible
at the time and they were the team that went was a five years in
a row. That was awful. I mean that that was Nobody liked it.
Nobody liked it. But my cousin both my cousins live in London and
they went I think it was last year. The NFL pricing is expensive from
tickets to those games. But you're seeing the NFL has grown big time,
first of all, and also you're seeing teams I can't remember it was the
Packers and somebody that was that they saw. So you saw Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, like they're taking decent players over there. When one year though the
Bills played the Seahawks with Russell Wilson in Toronto and it was very little buzz.
The crowd wasn't that wasn't that great. It was surprising. Remember the
forty nine Ers and Seahawks playing a preseason game at BC Player American Bowl nineteen.
Yeah, David Bradley brought it. Yeah, all right, um,
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this is from Surrey Ryan. It's an early Is it just me? The
Tennessee Titans schedule released promo video is so simple yet it's a masterpiece hilarity.
You're gonna take care of that big right, I am? I am?
And then we'll talk about the Seahawks. Let's start with the Titans. Actually,
because so a lot of these teams, they tried to come up with
creative ways to release their schedule. Uh, the Chargers had an unbelievable cartoon
anime video that they put out with a million Easter eggs in it. Really
well done. Check that out. But I think the Titans won it all.
Tenant the Tennessee did. They decided to go to Broadway, the Broadway
Strip in Nashville and ask random people to tell the opponents that they will be
playing. The whole video is about two twenty If the appoint yeah, identified
the opponents. The whole videos about two twenties. This is what ninety seconds.
At the first ninety seconds of it, they show the logo. Yeah,
it's it's outstanding. Check it out. What is that? St.
Louis Rams? Oh, Oh, that's just the Boston Bobcats. No idea
Baltimore, Baltimore Orioles. This one is the Red Stallion's hat. It's a
pirate from the eyelids of the Caribbean. Chester Cheeto Tigers, North Carolina Tigers.
Texas that's the Cowboys. That's the Cowboys. Texas has got that the
Cowboys. Colts well, and a few things. First of all, the
Steelers one, it says Steelers in the logo. In the logo, maybe
you don't know where they play. That's fine. Look and look we're dunking
on people. You know. We we're in a bit of a sports bubble.
Not everyone knows everything about sports. I understand that some of those guesses
that were amazing. The Cowboys one Donny you references is very well done,
and Red Stallions is pretty good too. For Falcons. So the Colts Twitter
account today updated their Twitter account and there's the name now of the Colts Twitter
account, not the Cowboys. Uh the the uh you mentioned them? The
Red Stallions also known as the Atlanta Falcons. Uh. They did the same
thing by they actually went as far as making it. Uh. They are
calling themselves now the Red Stallions. That is uh again, really well done
and something very simple and again you're having fun with your brand. It's little,
you know, lighthearted humor. Well, I think a lot of teams
will go we can't show that exactly, you know it kind of it kind
of shows that people don't know that much about the NFL. It's not good
for the brand. That's fun. The Boston Bobcats that kind of worked it
absolutely would worry subtily. It's not the name of the team. Some of
those team names might be USFL and XFL teams down the road because they actually
do last. Yeah, they actually do work out pretty good. And by
the way, our apologies to our podcast listeners, it's not great. Didn't
necessarily work for them. You can check it out. Check it out because
it's it's very well done. Again, speaking of the schedule, this is
the Seahawks schedule announced yesterday. There's some interesting things here. First of all,
number one pick in the draft, Bryce Young and the Panthers. They
head to uh, it's not Century Lumie on September the twenty fourth, so
you can check that out. The Hawks are going to host their first ever
US Thanksgiving game at home, and yeah, five twenty local time against the
Niners. It's one of three uh primetime games. They play the Giants on
the road on Monday Night Football and the Cowboys on the road in Thursday night
fotbus Back to my Thursdays for the Hawks. And you also notice they're they're
in speaking of the Titans, they're in Nashville for Christmas Eve on the twenty
fourth, and they host the Steelers at home on New Year's Eve, December
the thirty. First the Seahawks do. And when it comes to the Seahawks,
here's another tweet for you. This came out the other day. No
team will travel further than the Seattle Seahawks this year. Sure that's not the
first time. No, they're gonna travel thirty one thousand miles, the most
in the NFL. So there's the first half of them, the team that
travels the least. Just you know, rolling out the excuses before the season
starts. Beautiful. But I mean that is a lot. It's only different
prime me. It's different in football once a week exactly, for sure.
Not many road games, Ryan, It's not for sure, But I mean
I think it still grinds on you a bit. I Mean, lastly they
had to go over over to Germany. The team that travels the least amount,
by the way, the Cincinnati Bengals. It's like fifteen sixteen thousand,
the model of the Yeah, I guess, so, I guess we should
be finished. Yeah I am Yeah. BC Lions. Uh. They played
their first home game June seventeenth against Vanson. They opened up on the road
the week before June eighth in Calgary, a couple of preseason games and before
that as well. And main camp starts today Sunday or Sunday. Rookie camp
started on Wednesday Sunday in Camloops. Main camp on Sunday. Yeah. Yeah,
so a lot happening with the BC Lions. A lot of baron of
beef because we consumed. Yeah, that's a beautiful a lot of training camp
up in Camloops. Have you been up there? I covered them many times,
Ryan, What are you talking in camel Yes or no? I've covered
the Lions camp every year and never saw you. Never sently, not recently,
but back in the heydays I was up there. I love cam Loops.
It's a beautiful city, tournament capital of the world. Yeah, it
is it of the world. Big sign when you go in there right up
there on Aberdeen Mall. They got the big sign there, tournament capital of
the world. I think it's the of Canada. We'll look at it.
I wonder what the tournament tournament capital of the world is. I don't know.
But if you go up to Kamloops and you want to hold a golf
tournament, Tobiano wouldn't be about as beautiful. Just watch out for those high
winds. Hold onto your hats. Coming up next we talk. We talk
BC Lions, SFU and much more with our good pal, usually on a
Thursday, but he's joining us to close out the week on Friday. Farhand
lolg he's next. Donnie know the TMA check all of our guests today brought
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absolutely very nice today. Okay, new surrounding the SFU football program.
I here to talk about that and more from TSN our friend Farran, Lolgi
Farran, thanks for doing this. I know bucket hat today we'll excuse you
for that. How are you? Oh? There, it is there,
you go, it's it's there. It's good, but you know it's black
and I gotta go outside and it's really hot and even though there's a shade
there, so you know, I've got to pick and choose. And instead
of golfing, you guys should be up in Cameloos covering the line. Should
you not? Yes, yes, absolutely, yeah, we'll work on that.
We'll work on that. So should you Where are you right now?
You know I will be going. I will be going in a couple of
days. I will make my trip up to Camels, There's no doubt about
it. But as if you you know, yesterday it was an interesting day,
right because we lost the injunction. The players lost the injunction, which
we weren't completely surprised by because we know what a stretch it is to gain
something like that. But we got an indication the day before that the university
was going to crack the door open a little bit, regardless of what the
outcome of the injunction was. And looking from from a university right now that
is taking body blow and head blow after body blow and headblow like that school
the President, all the people there, the athletic cher, they are all
suffering immense reputational damage, and I think they're feeling it, you know,
So the door got cracked open a bit. I know there's outside forces that
are that are also involved, that have been trying to influence the process,
you know, political and governors and otherwise. Right, so, what was
originally designed as a special advisor process that we are fully convinced, and I've
heard this from people internally, that was designed to run the program just off
the road, right then wait until December. Delay delay, delay, used
the advisor as a deflection for the media, and then by the time we
get to December, there's nothing left to save. I think now they've had
to completely revisit and pivot, and now I think there's a real opportunity that
the doors open and this program can be saved. And the President talked about
committing to making an application of youth sports for the twenty twenty four football season,
possibly even the NAIA. You know, the possibility of exhibition games for
the twenty twenty three season is on the table. You know, we still
got a ways to go to get that, but certainly twenty four it seems
a little bit more promising right now. But just you know, having the
program back in whatever way, shape and form is such an important thing and
just to have that as a real possibility to have meaningful engagement, which hadn't
happened before the original decision. So look, at the end of the day,
as the President admitted herself, trust needs to be rebuilt. So we're
going to see, based on actions over the next day, two or three
days, next week, you know whether or not some trust can be rebuilt,
right because for us, we want to you know, we want to
rebuild that trust. We want to get this thing back on the rails and
get to a positive outcome here. Okay, fran I was just going to
ask you about twenty twenty three and you're saying there's a possibility of exhibition games.
As for a special advisor, I think I've got this right, law
Professor Richard McLaren special advisor for this whole situation. Do you know him at
already or what do you know about him? Well, Richard McLaren, it's
his company, McLaren Global Sports Group, and he is going to be involved
in the process. The lead advisor is going to be Bob Copeland, who's
the former athletic actor at the University of Waterloo, and he was there when
they had the steroid scandal and drop not drop, but they put the football
program on hold for a year and then brought it back. So you know,
they both have really strong backgrounds in sports. Professor McLaren is a highly
respected law professor at Western Ontario. But they're listed as arbitrators in the CFL
Collective Bargaining Agreement, so they do understand sports. They're not a bunch of
guys that are from a completely different field being brought in and try to apply
those principles to this. So we're gonna get a chance to meet with them
next week and you know, and hopefully we can make our case right because
ultimately, any university sport, if you're going to base decisions on finances,
it's not going to work. And I know that people who are against SFU
football were saying, we'll look at how much a cost. Well, you
can't compare the cost of football to the cost of basketball. But if you
compare it on a per athlete basis, when you're dealing with a hundred athletes
and the impact of those hundred athletes both in your program but also and eventually
they graduate and make their impact in the community. Like you know, now
you can kind of see where those numbers go, right, So I think
that you know, there probably are some people at the university that are in
the athletic department that are hoping that hey, it doesn't come back so they
can get more money. And I you know, I'd hate to think there
are selfish people like that, but I know there are. But you know,
ultimately, I think that if this process is legitimate, if wait and
see certainly the people are legitimate and they don't base it strictly on money,
then I think that we can have a positive outcome here because there's not a
single sport on that campus or most other campuses in Canada that makes money except
for maybe Laval football. Right, everybody is losing money, but they see
the other benefits to university sport. Fine, let's get back to the BC
Lions. The only worry I have is Nathan Rourke captivated not only Vancouver,
everybody in the country, and you lose a little bit of momentum when he's
gone. But Vernon Adams is he is. Where's your confidence level with him
being the guy all your My confidence in VA is high, right, and
I've seen kind of a renewed commitment from him. And I'm not saying he
wasn't committed previously, but I think sometimes when you feel you've arrived and you've
signed to that in big contract, you kind of start, you know,
looking at other things. You think the football stuff is taken care of him
or I need to be and there are other things that maybe you focus on.
And again I'm not saying he's done that, but you know, I
do know athletes that have signed that big deal that have kind of gone down
that road. And I think when he came here last year it was a
tough situation just midway through the season getting dropped in, you know, and
all the Nathan comparisons were there. I think now that we've seen him for
a period of time NBC, you know, you'd hope that by next year
people understand that Nathan's not here. We you know, Vernon Adams has been
the quarterback for half a season. He's had a full off season to work
on his craft and renew his focus on what he's doing, and a full
off season to work with Jordan mcsimmick, right, and a full training camp
with Jordan mcsimmicks. So to do all of that build rapport and trust with
your receivers, which I think has happened. He brought him all down to
Tacoma few weeks ago and got to know them not much better and worked on
a few things. So I think Vernon Adams is in the right headspace and
we're going to see the best version of Vernon Adams. Will it be Nathan
Work? Nope, because nobody in the CFL will put up those kinds of
numbers that Nathan Orc did for the first AID games. That's not an insult,
but that those statistics would have would have passed up Flute's records, right.
So, but can Vernon Adams will lead this team into the playoffs and
two playoffs success? Absolutely? Where do you see the Lions? Who are
your great cup picks? I mean to give us a preview of the season.
Who's the team to beat in the CFL? You know, I think
it's is wide open and it's ever been guys, And I know that's that's
kind of a crutch, and I want to wait on a few weeks because
you know, you look at Winnipeg and they're the most consistent team, right,
So you have to start there. And but they're getting older, right
and at some point there's going to be a slight drop off there just because
their key guys are still their key guys. I mean, you know,
they added a Dalton Shown who became a key receiver and he's younger, but
everyone else is still getting up, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
And then you've got Toronto, who's the rosters improved everywhere some quarterback right,
so we just don't know what Chad Kelly's gonna give you, but everywhere
else they're better than they were a year ago. So you know, you
could start there. I have so much faith in Hamilton and how they've built
that team and what Arelando Steinauers doing over there? Right? So they've they've
rebuilt that team, and you know, we know some BC Lions Joel for
Garoa and James Butler are going over there. They've made some significant additions on
defense. They're hosting the Great Cup this year, so they've clearly gone all
in. And I don't think they were that far away last year. If
they can get Bowl Leeviy Mitchell, you know, even to a seven out
of ten level, Right, I think they become formidable in the East,
so you know, you go there and I think the Lions are going to
be right in the middle of things in the West. So I want to
wait a few weeks. And you know, we went through our storylines for
the offseason, and I think every quarterback in this league has a question around
him, right, whether it's Montreal and Saskatchewan and they've traded quarterbacks essentially,
right, what are they going to look like in different colors? Taylor,
Cornelius and Edmonton is a great supporting cast. Is he ready to take the
step? Jake Mayer, No more Bolivia in the building. You're now the
leader. It's your team, like every team has that except for Winnipeg,
right, every other team has that. So I want to see for a
couple of weeks what that looks like before I can offer up a great Cup
prediction. You know, it was outstanding about that answer for ahand it was
the almost word for were the same answer you gave when Rick asked you the
same question today? No, right, No, it wasn't thinking I heard
this before. It's relevant now because training camps are underway. Relevant, It
was it last week. I never asked about your great cup picks last week.
It was about four weeks ago. So these guys are wrong. While
we're while we're talking about the VC Lions, you know, we were talking
about SF you earlier. I cannot say enough good things about himar Doman and
the support he's given to our project to try to get the program back.
And you know, Rick, when you talk about you might have a little
less buzz in the marketplace because Nathan Ork's gone and Briton Adams is there.
Fans don't pay to see an owner. But this owner is committed to doing
all the right things and he's shown he's fully invested, not just in the
Lions, but in amateur football. We saw it with his commitment to the
Shrum Bowl last year, but wanting to step up and help us raise seven
hundred thousand dollars and hopefully we're going to be able to put that money to
good use. But I think if anybody can help bridge that gap of losing
a star quarterback by helping build a team and all the marketing around it,
because you know, see about fans for years, especially in this market,
havn't complained about the quarterback. We've complained about ownership and a lack of marketing
and a lack of local engagement and things like that. Well check check check
check. So yeah, so I think there's going to be a belief in
what they're doing. And I know they're ahead of targets on season tickets right
now. Yeah, I think a fan base wants their owner to be in
tune with them. But tell you, theyn't want the owner to be in
tune with the customer with the audience. Skape farhand, So prepare for a
week him today. Who's your pick to win the Great Cup? Just stopping
over? The question was two weeks ago. I asked you, I've got
a homework assignment for you. Yeah, want you. I want you to
ask me about three players in the lines defense next week. Yeah, that's
it. Okay, that's the next questions. I'm on it. He's on
it. I'm on it all right, Thanks far Hat and congratulations on I
would say, mostly positive news about SFU. Yeah, keep up, thank
you, my friend. We will will keep We know where you met your
lovely wife. We want to be proud of that university right up at SFU.
Absolutely, thank you, Fran, appreciate there you go. Yeah,
my wife ran track up at SFU. Wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah, track. Yeah, I did not excel at track. Yeah.
Somebody has to be a good athlete in there in our household. Um.
By the way, just something he mentioned there. Any plans because you know,
black absorbs the heat, any plans for a white bucket hat for the
summer. That's a reverse retro, yes, perfect, we'll see, we'll
see, we can. We're having a lot to do a retro when the
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They just don't care. And that's what do we always talk about.
That's not good. That is the worst possible answer for the Canucks. For
the Canucks, that's the worst possible The opposite of love. How many times
have I said this something? A million times? The opposite of love isn't
hate. It's indifference. It's indifferent. Yeah. I don't know if that's
valid with this though, because I think there's people that are saying, can
you just let me have a little saying here please. I think the people
that are saying don't care, I think it's you know what, just win
some games. I don't care what your marketing is. I don't care,
you know what that buzzwords are. I think that's more of a slippery slope
than hate. Hate. At least you feel an emotion. Yeah, saying
they don't care about this ad campaign is a step or two away from not
caring at all. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably put that in your pipe
and smoke it. Ryan. When a fan base is telling you they don't
care, that's not good. It's not good. I'm just I just I
just any level anything. I just think the marketing around the team is something
that people say they don't worry about, like it's not going to drive them
one way or another. People are tired that there is no playoffs for the
seventh times eight years, and even the one time they made the playoffs,
technically you know they couldn't. They might not have made it. They just
shut the season down that day or early. Is it just me Bury in
the whack. I want to bring this up because I scoured YouTube yesterday for
something. Is it just me? But the worst Canocks ad campaign ninety seven
with the monk wondering, the wandering the street proclaiming the Messier is coming,
the Messier is coming. I don't remember that at all. I don't remember
that. Didn't like the ad and really hated the result. What Messier did
in Vancouver back in the eighties. They came up with a campaign with a
couple of guys named Chuck and Bobby. Didn't do you remember I remember talking
about at all, A couple of actors from from the States, one of
whom was in Mississippi burning And I looked all over a YouTube yesterday. I
couldn't find it. It was priceless. Yeah, it was good. I
loved it. I don't necessarily keep in mind the team was awful then.
I'm not sure everybody did. It was really really out there, but it
was. It was controversial that for a lot of people. I liked it,
A lot of people would feel that was the worst campaign. I don't
remember this with with Messier. I don't remember the Messier one right off the
top of my head. But the Chuck and Bobby. I remember, we
don't want to go against a very the whack very quickly for Peter guy,
burying the whack for for people just tuning in. Jonathan le KARAMACKI, yeah,
so he's getting close to signing with a team in the Saskatchewan or No,
that would be something that's a scoop. No, Saskatchewan, not the
Saskatchewan the Sweden league which you quit reading the inbox right now. I was
reading up. I don't want to piss off Burying Chilliwack. He's a good
guy. He loves our show. Anyways, what does it have to do
with Saskatchewan. I was just thinking Burying Chilliwack, and then I thought a
Saskatchewan anyways, just talked to Orbro GM Nicholas Ericson. Is I think Orio
cookies every time I see Orbro Can you let me do the story? So
the Karamacki's close to signing with the team in the Sweden Elite League. Yeah,
not first division like I called it earlier, in his first division done,
it's the first division Orbro GM. Nicholas Ericson told me this morning he's
had a couple of good meetings of them. Uh, nothing clear yet.
We're gonna find out in a couple of days. It looks like he's going
there. His North American GM, Jerry Johansson, good guy, buddy,
you mind admits it's looking good. What's that agent? Agent? What you
said? North American GM or North? No, I'm just this is not
all over the map his North American agent, Jerry's Jerry's offices? Or is
the stch I got GM written here? I don't know freaking why, But
anyways, Jerry Johanson tells me this morning, it's looking this is gonna take
way longer. It's too long. Look, he's close to signing an Orbro.
Good for him? Wherever or Bro if that's the way you say it,
or by the way, somebody has sent us the proper pronunciation. I'm
sure we're way. Is it it is that it? I'm not sure,
but it's and Elias Patterson plays for that team, the defenseman defense, and
I do want to say this. Uh wherever? Huh that's the pronunciation.
Gonna say it again? Yeah, Oh my goodness, are we ever off?
So it's not or broh Hey, it's not Saskatchew said, how does
she know where's that? This is from Jerry Johannson. Okay, so it's
say it again, right I okay, Okay, there you go, stop
it gly she got up second. Really can slow it down if you want.
Okay, okay, can I get this last thing in? Yeah?
This go or Rebro anyways, the Canucks have a big say okay, stop
it or Rebro I get it? Or Rebro oh Rebro anyways. Canucks have
a big saying where the caramac he ends up? They're and it's probably not
gonna be Saskatchewan. Yeah, and also I just talked about this moment ago,
but people just tuning in. Canucks training camp will be held in September
latest in Victoria. Not the first time they've been there, first time since
and LACRIMACKI will be there. You'll be a camp. Maybe they'll visit the
waterling Dog after signing with a Rebro. Maybe they'll visit the wadling dog team
bonding. What's that they could go to the wadling dog for team bonding.
That's right, really nice? He just to say yeah, first stop,
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is a Vander Kane, of course from this part of the world. As
Oiler's Knights tied at two. That game goes this evening and Evander Kane the
topic of discussion in Vegas because of the Petro Angelo. You have to hear
some of the people and they've become real hockey fans big time in a very
short period of time that it was okay for Petro Angelo to slash dry Cital
because Kane at the end of the game before that went after Petro Angelo's neck.
Yes, right, it was a bit of a hit from behind from
Kane on Petro Angelo. So they were really putting right up into his face.
Yeah, yeah, he went out. But Dallas Aikins was talking about
this last night. Though these are all different things, like the player's safety,
doesn't they don't account account for that. They don't account for Hey,
this happened in the game. So this is like like everyone was saying,
well, hey, if you if you resend Nurse's automatic suspension, then maybe
petrol Angelo should only get a fine or something like, you know, a
trade off, and Aikins was saying, that's not the way they deal with
things like they are. It's in a vacuum, it's this is the rule.
So so I mean, this looks like tit for tad here, right,
you think so, Nurse, I don't think it does. It does
well. I think I think Petro Angelo might normally get more than one game
he should have. But but I agree, But I think because when Nurse
got a game and similar type player, the similar value to his team.
It's go with one. But that's that's not right. I'm not saying it's
right. That's why it looks. Look what ruling was announced first? It
was nurse, but that that that's that's automatic though, Yeah okay, but
still it was announced first. And guess what, we're gonna give him one
too. Well, and now there was somebody in the him said that Nicholas
Hague, who uh nurse fought, apparently said post game he asked for the
fight, and then other people have said that it was it was nurse who
asked for the fight. Yeah, but so I don't know. The bottom
line is, I'm sorry. One game suspension for somebody acting that recklessly with
their stick is a joke and getting really lucky, oh man like and again
everyone I saw it reactually yesterday. Well you know, if if Dryst's hand
was broken, it'd be different. Why should it be that you should have
a penalty? Two guys think twice it was vicious. Maybe the next time
they're not so lucky. And dry said his finger is broken, her hand
is broken or whatever else, and we're talking. He's arguably the star of
the postseason so far, and that was allowed to go on and one game
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Still that's the title here. Still, a Michael J. Fox movie,
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things, Michael's upbringing in Burnaby, the start of his acting career, has
moved to Hollywood, his rise to superstart him, his family of life,
and of course, his battle with Parkinson's disease. I get it. I
was big. I was big in bubblegum. I woke up and I noticed
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health. I remember her whispering. No one outside of my family knew.
There was only one reason I took these bills to hide. But all those
years of hiding was shaking me away. She denied that part of me that
wants to continue to go on and do things is to quit. I want
to accept that. That's him. Yeah, outstanding, and as part of
it, like an outstanding trailer, it's directed. Still is directed by Davis
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early and Donnie, you got the right opportunity. He was working two or
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in up at Northview. Um, yeah, yogi Berra. You look at
his list of and maybe the quotes were big because he said those things in
New York where everything is just it just explodes and you hear about it.
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a restaurant because there's always a line up there just it's cold. Here's three
times a People make fun of him, right, you know, because of
the three time American League MVP. But I think people think more of the
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Visiting Korea from Ottawa, listening to the team in the hotel and thought of
you guys when I saw this in the gym. This this is Chris from
Ottawa in Korea listening to Donny and Dolly, and he said that, Jimmy,
she's this. Well, tell people what this is for the podcast.
It's a shaker. It's the shaker becker that we've talked about. Befull school
shaker belt. There's all sorts of old school video on YouTube on how to
use a shaker belt. Basically a belt that shakes that you put around your
gut, the whole thing that somehow the gut will the gut disappear here,
disappear and they still make them in Korea. Out here, I haven't seen
a I don't see this, Donny. Ever, it's more of like back
then it was like to lose weight. I think now maybe it's just a
massage. Yeah, don't let it go a little to him to stand there
and do that and get massaged and jim people, do we should get one
in here? Yeah? No, I don't think so. I don't need
to see you guys watching me shake and that thing that's don see you shaking
any Let kidding um go good? Is it just be? Joe Cap should
be? This is from North Van Walker. Is it just be? Joe
Cap should be considered one of the top five athletes, but most of all
personalities to Grace Vancouver and BC Sports. My ninety one year old dad.
He said, love, love your tribute to Joey. Of course, Joe
left us at the age of eighty five earlier this week. Great show,
great show again. That's from north fan Walker. When you think of the
great athletes, top five athletes of all time in Vancouver, certainly Joe Cap.
You could argue he could be there, Pavla Burray, Doug Flute is
there. I was just gonna say, Murf Fernandez, who would be there?
People would argue Sadean Twins, Sadean Twins, Trevor Lyndon Um. When
it comes to soccer, and look, my soccer knowledge isn't what a lot
of people say is. But people talk about Rudy Croll. Ruddy Croll Lay
with the White Caps had a subtle game that the people really know, uh
the soccer really really appreciated. Was great. And when he played at the
ad Empire it was a big crowdch Donnie, I remember him, Yep,
yep, what else you guys? Uh oh hold it a second, Uh
oh yeah, suck it up, Donnie. Is it just me? Suck
it up? Donnie. Air conditioning causes global warming plant a couple of trees
to shade the house in the afternoon if it's if it's too hot, Okay,
we'll see how it feels after this weekend. Exactly. You've got air
conditioning. I got two of them now, yeah, oh horribles portables.
I sent my second one up yesterday. Maybe a third. Max's room is
hot. Think of us, Think of us the money that you know,
it's somebody got a raise and it wasn't Taylor and me. I am concerned
about global warming, but man, I'm telling you, I'll be a hypocrite
the air conditioner. Let me ask you, is my AC pumping out that
little bit of hot air? Really? Let me? Everybody thinks that way?
Ryan, what happened? Let's worry about the factories and those sort of
things pumping out the hot air before we worry about little Ryan's portable AC and
when I grow Um, I don't have a name here, but is it
just me? But hats off to the listener slash viewer who provided this A
sign of the Camloops Oh, the Camloops sign outside the city it is we
were running if it was the World's tournament capital or BC's tournament capital it's officially
Canada's tournament capital. Yes, there, it is right there. It's a
beautiful sign in Camloops. And it's not up by sign Aberdeen Mall is when
you enter Camloops. Uh, it's down by MacArthur Park. I think MacArthur
Park. Yes, they got a beautiful park there. Donnie called mccarthur park.
I used to go there all the time. Somebody left the cake out
in the rain. He sure it's MacArthur Park. Yes, helped me out.
It was the name of a song by Richard Harris. Google might hold
that. Google MacArthur Park, Camloops. It'll pop up in a second.
I used to go there all the time. I'm covered by Donna summer.
I'll check that out, okay, Ryan, I google MacArthur Park. Well,
he'll get the song. It's right there. It's right over the bridge
and Mika left. Is it MacArthur Park's right there? I used actually is
thank okay MacArthur hold on Arthur Island Park. Oh, we called it MacArthur
Park. I spent all my summers and Camloops in the seventies and eighties.
I loved it. It was We used to go to MacArthur Park. All
the time. It closes at eleven pm. Yes, because it's like me
and my friends. Yeah, no, it's a park. It's just it's
by nor Why is that unusual showing pitcher. MacArthur Park is beautiful, right,
it's gonna basic hang out at parks after eleven o'clock. You know,
come on, we got kicked out of that park after eleven that. There's
the rules and regulations. They're still talking about it. And this is Look
at this, this springing out MacArthur Park, beautiful, camoops. That mountain
in the back there. I we used to live right by there, and
I'm telling you right now, Donnie, I used to look at the in
my backyard all the time, at that mountain all time. If you look
closely, you can see Jerry Johanson on top of the mountain. Beautiful.
We got to take a break. We'll wrap up the show the week.
The poll question hopefully throwing somewhere as it just means next Donny and Dolly the
team on check. As we continue our campaign, we know that we have
the Canucks here to get. Patrick Hernandez Born to Be a line from nineteen
seventy one, played on a regular basis at Rogers Arena, maybe out in
Abitsford. We know certain members of the organization watch our show. Yes,
this isn't working. It's not it's been five hundred fridays. They know Bet
ninety nine dot net pole questions speaking of the Canucks, Well, we also
know they don't like us, Ryan get her up? Is there a problem?
Well, ad lib goal, what do you want me to say?
There's a sign there, says bet ninety nine. Our bet ninety nine dot
in net poll question, what do you think of the Canucks structure habits a
standards ad campaign? Sixty two one sixty two point one percent said not impressed.
They don't care. Yes, that's not good. Like I'm sorry,
but sixty Canuck fans don't care business it's not good at all. Yeah,
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