WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:08.199 Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and creating over seven companies, 2 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.119 knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that 3 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:16.359 decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:20.280 and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited 5 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:25.280 possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.480 only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.479 deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know, the 8 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.759 stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. 9 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.320 Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.119 to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:52.880 blown away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. I am so 12 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:57.200 excited. I'm always excited. I'm excited. You guys are here. You 13 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.359 know what I'm going to say next, right, You are the podcast audience, 14 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.280 and you have been rocking it. You've been sending the shows, you've 15 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:08.079 been sending comments, and yes, Susan he doing your yoga, but I 16 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.079 too our episode. I think, look at you, guys, Susan's rocking 17 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.439 it with mission except of podcasts. She's learning all sorts of things and she's 18 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.120 getting in her exercise at the same time. So you guys can send in 19 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.680 your ideas as well. I'm not only just excited, but today you have 20 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:30.000 a special treat. You know, we do these amazing trilogy episodes where we 21 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.640 bring in experts, someone who is completely unique that is rocking it in their 22 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.640 field. Right, you don't get the title expert by just kind of doing 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:45.480 the little stuff. This woman embodies what she does and she shares that full 24 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.239 on, full game. I'm very excited. Do you know what the benefit 25 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.239 of being like a host man when you bring on people like Nada, because 26 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.840 you're like, this is like a class for me as well. So look 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:02.680 at you guys. The best podcast that I could ever ever, you know, 28 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:07.560 best podcast listeners. You're kind of like royalty, and Nada's going to 29 00:02:07.639 --> 00:02:12.560 make everyone royalty today. So who is this woman that I'm talking about? 30 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.560 She is an expert coach in Divine Union, doesn't it sound like amazing? 31 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.680 Specializes in relationship polarity, and today she is going to do a trilogy. 32 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:28.479 You are going to get three three part series today and it's all going to 33 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:34.479 be about untaught rules to create relationship royalty. So there it is, Mike 34 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.639 drop Nata, welcome to Mission Accepted today. Yeah, thanks for having me. 35 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:46.000 Absolutely absolutely, So we're super excited. I'm excited because you know what, 36 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:47.680 you guys, you're gonna stay on. You got to stay on and 37 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:53.800 listen to this three part series because she is going to take us just I 38 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.599 know it. We're going to go deeper and deeper today. We're going to 39 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.840 meet ourselves and we're gonna have a great time doing it. So tell us 40 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.800 a little bit about how it came about for you. I mean, our 41 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:07.960 whole shows about Mission Accepted, right and people taking the mission, staying the 42 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.479 mission, and so I'd love to hear a little bit about your story about 43 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:16.120 what made you decide to do what you do. Yeah. Absolutely, it's 44 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:22.199 been a journey. You know. I remember this day very clearly. It 45 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:28.520 was my son's sixth birthday, and it was like a pool like beach theme, 46 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.439 right, and all the kids were dressed up in like sharks and mermaids, 47 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:36.240 and it was a really beautiful sunny day and there was like this guy 48 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.360 making like shapes out of balloons giving them to the kids, and there was 49 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:42.560 like a face painting section and everyone was like on a high. Everyone was 50 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.199 so happy, and I was there, you know, taking photos with everybody, 51 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:52.319 and to the world, I looked very happy celebrating my son's sixth birthday, 52 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.840 but on the inside, I was like kind of miserable. I was 53 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:02.199 not in a good place and I couldn't understand, like what was going wrong 54 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:08.680 with me that I never really was able to be in a happy relationship, 55 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:13.960 Like there was always something missing, and I had to suck it up because 56 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.639 it was the birthday party, right, so I had to like pretend like 57 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:19.600 most women do when they're in unhappy relationships. They just put on this face 58 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:25.519 where everything's fine, and I had to be that person during during the party, 59 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.519 and then when I went home, I was like devastated. And it 60 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.040 took a couple of weeks off life, and I was like I can't live 61 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:35.639 this way. And it was either like I was going to really figure out 62 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:41.639 how to be in a happy relationship or I never wanted to be in a 63 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.560 relationship again. And I know that sounds really dramatic, but that's the state 64 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.040 that I was in back then, and mind you, this is like twelve 65 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:54.639 years ago. Yeah, So I took some time to really reflect on myself 66 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:59.160 and what I noticed after studying so many different things, like I became a 67 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:03.360 certified hip therapist and atheta healer, and a Reyki healer and a pranic healer, 68 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.639 and a yoga teacher and a breathwork practice. I have like seventy five 69 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:12.560 certificates, okay, and a relationship coach and a feminine coach, and did 70 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:18.079 a lot of plant medicine. And what I discovered is that nobody really teaches 71 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.399 us how to be in a relationship, and we're all just winging it. 72 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.160 We're all just trying to figure it out. And you know, we all 73 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.920 want love. I really wanted love. I want, like everyone deserves to 74 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.480 be in this amazing relationship that you know we see on TV, like the 75 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:38.800 fairy tale love. But whatever I did, I could not have it. 76 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:43.519 And I was giving my all, and every relationship that left me devastated, 77 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.680 you know, one after the other. So after going on this journey and 78 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.639 making that decision that, you know what, I'm going to figure this out 79 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:55.839 once and for all, I realized something very important and it is that relationship 80 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:04.319 polarity is the real effective way to get people into a harmonized union. And 81 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.399 that's the path that I took, and that's the path that I made my 82 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:13.000 life. And today I you know, I've helped thousands of women and men 83 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.800 master the relationships through that process that I've put for myself. And obviously today 84 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:24.279 I'm in a very happy relationship, been married five years. So that's really 85 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:28.120 my story and how I got to where I am today. You know, 86 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:32.759 I appreciate your transparency because I think it takes a lot. I've said that, 87 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:38.959 really, I think a lot of healing comes through transparency and other people 88 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.600 being transparent, because I think it's difficult to go, Hey, it was 89 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.120 my kid's sixth birthday party, and I was you know, I had that 90 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.639 beautiful plastic smile on my face, and I think I really appreciate that. 91 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.319 I also appreciate when you say it might sound dramatic, but I was like, 92 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.839 either you know, I'm done with relationships, or I got to figure 93 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.759 this out, or I'm done for I think that everyone at some point has 94 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:08.079 probably said, you know what, I'm throwing my hands up like white flag 95 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.959 on you know, on the match right, like I surrender. I don't 96 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.079 know what else I can do. I'm doing like you said, you're doing 97 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:19.959 everything that you can. And I think it's interesting about relationship polarity. I 98 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:25.480 have not heard anyone talk about that. I'm very excited to hear you share 99 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:29.360 what you're going to share with us today because I've not heard that as a 100 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:31.800 solution. And I'm like, well, I think there's a lot of people 101 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.360 that have been like I've had enough, you know, I don't know what 102 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:39.319 else to do. I'm you know, seventy five certificates like the self healing 103 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.600 and the healing books and the this and that. So please, let's just 104 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.199 dive right into it and talk about what it is that you've got to share 105 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.279 with us today. Let's kind of do our episode one. Let's let's find 106 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.439 out what it is that you that you do. And I am excited to 107 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:56.879 hear. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like what I discovered, Like the 108 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.600 hundreds of people that you know I've worked with, you know, I was 109 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.519 very similar to them. And it's not like I got this happy relationship because 110 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.199 I'm some special person. It's like I kind of, you know, I 111 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.079 kind of put the pieces together and you know, when I help people with 112 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:16.480 relationships, the relationships start to grow because the pieces come back in the right 113 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.360 order. Like when we are growing up, how do we learn about relationships? 114 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.920 We see our parents, we see our grandparents, we see you know, 115 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.199 movies, and and you know, if we're going to be honest with 116 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.519 ourselves, they're also just trying to figure it out, like they don't have 117 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.879 this perfect picture. And we've all witnessed, you know, our parents and 118 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.799 our grandparents like have all these extreme dysfunctional fights behind closed doors, and so 119 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.679 we don't really know how to be in a relationship. And it was very 120 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:48.039 easy for me to blame my partner, like like he's this and he's that, 121 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.240 and he doesn't appreciate me. And but I took a moment. I 122 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.000 was like, Okay, what am I doing? Like let's come back to 123 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.000 reality. Because at the end of the day, the way we show up 124 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.720 in the world is the way the world shows up for us. So I'm 125 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:05.399 like, what am I doing that I'm not seeing that was creating all this 126 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.159 dysfunctionality. Even though I was doing everything with good intent, I realized that 127 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:16.480 I was doing three things that were creating complete distortion in my relationship and the 128 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:22.799 first one is I was mothering my partner, so I would take on the 129 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.399 over nurturing role where I would be that good woman that did the right thing 130 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.399 all the time, like most women are taught. But what I didn't realize 131 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:37.000 is that that actually demasculinated the man. Right. It kind of started, 132 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:41.159 and most women that I work with share the same story, like I feel 133 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.320 like I'm with a man, and I feel like I'm with a boy in 134 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.120 a man's body. And the men that I work with so like the couple, 135 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.840 they say, oh, I'm always controlled, right, I'm always controlled 136 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.480 by my woman. But it goes back to that mothering role. So when 137 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:03.399 a woman takes that mother role, what starts to happen is she drops it 138 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:09.240 maganism. She's no longer this interesting, mysterious woman that she was in the 139 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.759 beginning because she put on that mothering hat. So what happens because everything, 140 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.679 at the end of the day is energy and the way I treat you, 141 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.200 like like, sometimes you meet people you feel really good, sometimes you meet 142 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.639 people you feel crap. It's because energy matters. So if a woman shows 143 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.879 up in her mothering role with time, the man is gonna drop into a 144 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:31.559 little boy role, and then he's not gonna feel masculine, so he's gonna 145 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.799 feel controlled and he's going to rebel. So what happens in that relationship the 146 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.279 polarity goes off track, and then eventually they move on from that honeymoon phase 147 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:45.159 into this constant bickering and arguing, always trying to make it work, always 148 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.919 trying to figure it out, and then it never really works out. Their 149 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.960 sex life goes down the hill, you know, their communication goes really bad, 150 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.639 the intimacy is not there, and they're unhappy, they're unfulfilled. So 151 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.399 that's the first thing, like the mothering role. The second thing is that 152 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.399 in an inner relationship, like we are always growing, Like we are always 153 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:13.000 growing as people, we're always evolving, we're always healing something and we're always 154 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.720 learning something new. And a lot of couples and that was me right long 155 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.480 time ago, and but I'm talking from like the people I work with, 156 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:26.679 like a lot of couples, Like what's missing is that partnership, that friendship 157 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:33.200 that's built on like trust and respect and loyalty and most important, like conscious 158 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.879 conversations, like being able to be authentically yourself no matter what is going on. 159 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.000 Knowing that you're going to be held, you're going to be supported, 160 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.279 and you're going to have a friend to walk you through what's going through. 161 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.679 And when I what I used to do is I would blame, I would 162 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.440 fight, I would argue, I would I would like do anything but have 163 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.879 a healthy conversation, right because the part of me that didn't feel confident would 164 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:01.320 come up when you know, I needed that support. So what happens in 165 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:07.159 that space is that that's not going to create anything healthy when two people just 166 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.639 start arguing over everything. So what I realized is when I started embodying that 167 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:18.039 part of me that can be like really clear with what I say, feeling 168 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.519 confident and safe, what started to happen is communication started to become like a 169 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.759 bridge from my heart to his heart instead of like this catastrophic bomb that would 170 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.120 take place whenever you know stuff didn't go well. But the thing is for 171 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:37.080 women what I and for men, what I realized is like our communication like 172 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.519 communication is like like you know, if you have a brick wall, right 173 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.440 the beginning of the wall, it looks really good, but then if you 174 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.279 look at all the breaks, there are these bottom fundamental breaks that hold the 175 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:54.279 whole wall together. Right, So communication is like the top part. So 176 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.120 when I dug in within myself to see why is it that I reacted? 177 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.000 Why is it that I was short tempered like thousands of women? Right, 178 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.559 what I realized is that I was so disconnected from my womb. I was 179 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:13.480 so disconnected from that safety within my own body, that pleasure center, that 180 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.360 joyful center within myself. So because I was so disconnected from my womb, 181 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.080 I was more in a masculine role. So the way I approached conversations was 182 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.320 very masculine. So what would happen then? Then you know the man would 183 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:33.279 go into a feminine role. So bringing that into balance creates that relationship polarity, 184 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.440 right. And then the third thing, it's really really like taking a 185 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.679 relationship as a third project on its own. Like a lot of people going 186 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.200 into relationships thinking like, okay, we're in a relationship, but it's like 187 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:50.559 me in my own energy and you in your own energy, creating a whole 188 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:54.679 third energy. So we're not leaking into each other being codependent and dysfunctional. 189 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.320 We're actually creating something together. Like this energy of a relationship can be raising 190 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.440 a dog, can be having a child, Like how do you treat that 191 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:07.679 third energy. So when you know, I started to be like, all 192 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.879 right, I want to be a queen in my life, and I want 193 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:13.600 my men to be a king. I want to create a kingdom together, 194 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.000 right, So I needed to show up as a queen. And in order 195 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.559 to do that, I needed to really invest in the relationship, of the 196 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:26.080 energy, of the energy of the relationship, not from a place of like 197 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:31.759 neediness or cleanness or even avoidance sometimes, but from a place of really being 198 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:39.159 very interdependent, like really focusing on becoming the world class version of myself. 199 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.120 And when I started becoming the world class version of myself, the type of 200 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.759 men I started to meet were very different. And the man that I'm with 201 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:52.360 today is like the king of my kingdom, right, And this is really 202 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:58.320 what helped so many couples transform their relationships. We had a couple that was 203 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:03.320 actually separated. They have two beautiful kids. They're separated, and their life 204 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.840 is like going down the hill. And they called us up for some help, 205 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:11.240 and we took them through this exact process. And actually I think it 206 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.960 was August this year. August this year they really needed their vows. They 207 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.440 invited us to their new new wedding it was really beautiful because we're part of 208 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.480 the ceremony and you know, they just started a whole new page with a 209 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:30.240 completely different harmonious flow because they got that relationship polarity in place. Wow, 210 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:37.799 let's take a digestion. Let's let that digest I imagine, and you know, 211 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.519 correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, what you describe is very 212 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.519 blissful, but I'm sure there's a process to it, and I can hear 213 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.759 it, like you know, and I'm sure you get this. So when 214 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.440 I'm doing a show, it's like you can hear questions from the audience even 215 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.879 though they're not exactly listening right now. And I'm sure you've heard this. 216 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.519 So there's a couple and they've got stuff going on, or it's not a 217 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.559 it's optimum. Maybe it's just okay, like there's not anything wrong, but 218 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:08.200 there's not anything fantastic either, or they're like ooh, I recognize some of 219 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.720 the stuff that she just said. It's like ooh, I can react, 220 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:17.679 or what do you say to that person? That's like I'd love to be 221 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.720 able to, you know, have a conscious conversation with my partner, but 222 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.600 they're not into that. Even vocabulary or that terminology, like what if one 223 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:32.440 person's wanting something different than the other person's not really, like, do you 224 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.519 do you get that question? Do you come up against that? Yeah, 225 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.559 that's actually a very good question. Now I'll tell you something. It takes 226 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.879 two people to tangle, right, It takes two hands. Like in my 227 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.159 culture, you say it takes two hands to clap, right. And this 228 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:53.159 this doesn't just go in relationships. This goes in any adventure like business relationship, 229 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.080 or like parent and child, or like you and your scuba diving instructor. 230 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.000 Right, Like, you've got to be on the same page. So 231 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:07.000 when couples are not on the same page, we start from one on one. 232 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.599 We start from like the first page of the ba whole book, which 233 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.920 is, let's talk about our level of commitment, right, Because when people 234 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:21.039 are committed to create the same vision, then they become on the same page. 235 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:26.039 And what happens is everyone's everyone's way and how they flow is very different, 236 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.279 and they don't need to be the same because we are all different. 237 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.759 And the whole point is becoming the most world class, authentic version of yourself. 238 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:40.559 Right. But if we're both if both people are committed to the same 239 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.480 vision, then they're gonna walk on the same path. Okay. I mean 240 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.039 I think that, Thank you so much, because I'm sure that must be 241 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.519 something that comes up because you know, you've sat in circle with sisters and 242 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.079 they're like, oh yeah, like I'm going to say that to him and 243 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:59.039 he's going to be like sure, let's go get conscious or she you know, 244 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.480 I'm sure when when he's sitting with his man and it's like there's just 245 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.079 so much you know, there's it's just too far apart, or I don't 246 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:08.799 really know how to do this, or she's not on the same page as 247 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.880 me, or we don't you know, we don't have the same things in 248 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.519 common, or something fell away, or you know, you hear that a 249 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:21.519 lot, So I love that. You know. The thing is everybody wants 250 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:27.240 love, Like everybody wants true love, and everybody deserves to have a beautiful 251 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:32.279 love story. Like at the end of the day, this is probably one 252 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.960 of the most important parts of our life in my opinion, because it's connected 253 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.000 to our hearts. Like when you're when you're in love and your heart is 254 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.279 so full. You know, you show up differently at work, you show 255 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.640 up differently with your friends, you show up differently in any every part of 256 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.079 your life. And when you're having problems with your love life, a lot 257 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:53.799 of people start to get used to that that's flow, like yeah, we 258 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.960 don't listen to each other, Yeah we fight, yeah, you know, 259 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.960 and then they move onto their life and there they start to struggle and they 260 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.440 don't realize that it's actually because their heart's not feeling well. Right. And 261 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:11.960 the thing is, men and women speak completely different languages, and men and 262 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.960 women are waiting for the other person to change, Like the man's probably thinking 263 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.079 only if she stops controlling me, or only if she stops whatever she does, 264 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.519 and the woman's always thinking only if he shows up differently, and you 265 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:27.519 know, he's more emotional towards me, then it would work. And that's 266 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.519 where I used to be, and that's when I said, you know, 267 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.920 I used to blame, like I'm waiting for somebody else to do something for 268 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.960 me to have a great love life. But when the couple starts looking inwards 269 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.400 right, like for example, like any like what I've discovered, Okay, 270 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.359 to make a long story short, whatever, it's great. It's like a 271 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:53.839 woman's love life is a mirror, like a literal mirror of her relationship with 272 00:19:53.920 --> 00:20:00.440 her womb. And a man's love life is a mirror of his relationship with 273 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.319 his heart. And when I had that aha moment, I'm like, oh 274 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:08.440 my god, you know, like I am so disconnected from my wull. 275 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.559 I need to come back to myself. I never need to tell a man 276 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:17.160 how to treat me anymore. Like like what happens with women when they start 277 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.359 to center themselves in their womb. You know, when women sit together and 278 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.920 they're like, oh, but he doesn't listen or all that, like that 279 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.359 will go away. Because when a woman is in her in a different like 280 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:33.400 magnificent queen energy, what happens is she never needs to tell him how to 281 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:40.200 treat her because her magnetism is so different that he will naturally be drawn to 282 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.519 protect her and provide for her and to want to hold her and be more 283 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.880 emotionally present. And when a man is centered in his heart, he never 284 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.000 needs to tell a woman stop telling me what to do or stop whatever, 285 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.599 right, because she's going to naturally start to trust his leadership. She's going 286 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.519 to naturally flow into his masculinity. So she's going to drop into her femininity 287 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:06.279 and feel so good about herself because that's her natural element. Right. If 288 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.920 you put a fish in like a cage, a bird cage, it's not 289 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.200 gonna feel good. But put a fish in water, she's gonna flow. 290 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.400 And that's what happens with the woman, and and then what happens with the 291 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.160 men is he's gonna feel very good about himself because he's gonna feel very musculine. 292 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:26.079 And then together they create their kingdom because they've organized that polarity. Thank 293 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.039 you for that. And let's talk a little bit. And I don't know, 294 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.240 we're probably rolling into all of the you know, our segments are going 295 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:34.119 to go all together, you guys, so you're going to go on this 296 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:40.119 journey of conversation with us, and I love it. So let's talk about 297 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.759 let's talk about this womb because I could imagine that there's a few people out 298 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.759 there going I have no idea what she's talking about, and I have I'm 299 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:52.519 going to come out this podcast and go, I'm going to drop into what, 300 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:56.599 like how do I do that? I think people can hear the benefit. 301 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.440 I think it's easy to hear when you speak and you're so again when 302 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.200 you speak Nada, It's like I can visually just see this whole thing coming 303 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:08.839 into into play like a puzzle. But I don't. I can hear people 304 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.319 like, well, how and what I mean? Yeah, we can hang 305 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:17.000 out with you and you can probably walk us through it. But when someone 306 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:21.319 like, what would that look like? You know, yeah for a woman, 307 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:23.880 like, I'm really glad you brought that up, because you're right, 308 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.319 like a lot of women cannot even associate what the two have to do with 309 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.480 one another, like how my relationship connected to my womb? Yeah? Yeah, 310 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.920 And a lot of women actually that I first start working with, they 311 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.440 have no idea that their womb is more than other than having a baby and 312 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.359 getting a period, Like they don't know that their womb is actually much more 313 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.920 than that. Right, So this is a very good, good point, 314 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.400 and we can talk about the men and their hearts at one point too. 315 00:22:53.079 --> 00:23:00.319 Now, the thing is like, our wombs are very sacred. And if 316 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.960 somebody told me fifteen years ago, nada, one day you're gonna be talking 317 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.799 about the womb, I would have been like what Because I used to be 318 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:12.279 a tomboy. I used to be so disconnected from my womb that if you 319 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:17.640 told me womb for me, it was intercourse period, babies, that's it. 320 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:19.759 Yeah, And I didn't even know I had filbian tubes. I just 321 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:25.119 I didn't even know the biology of my womb. I was such a tomboy. 322 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.759 But oh my god, thank god I went on this journey because my 323 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:36.200 whole life changed. And what I discovered is like, our wombs are so 324 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:41.720 sacred. Like when I was sitting trying to understand my femininity and how my 325 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:47.319 feminine energy works and how it works in relationships, it clicked, like it's 326 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:51.680 so simple. But you know, sometimes things are so simple that we overlook 327 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.960 them, right, Like, let's go back to the prime creator. Okay, 328 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.920 God, the universe, whatever anyone believes in, Like humanity was created 329 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.000 at one point. We don't know how why it was created, but you 330 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:10.519 know we exist as a species and our species, you know, whoever created 331 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:15.279 humanity decided, okay, so for the species to continue, they need a 332 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.160 place so I can send spirits to become babies. And that place, that 333 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:25.359 portal is the womb. So the womb is actually a very sacred space that 334 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:30.440 keeps our species alive. It's a very very very like incredible organ that we 335 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:36.680 have. Now if you go back in societies, like before all world wars, 336 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:42.000 and all of that. Women were actually treated like priestesses. Women were 337 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:48.160 considered very royal, and women when they were on their menstruation were actually treated 338 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.200 even more royal. And I was looking at that, I was like, 339 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.000 why is that when I was taught the opposite, like I should hide myself 340 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.240 and be shamed of myself and now speak about these things out loud, you 341 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.839 know, it's like taboo and stuff. So what I started to understand is 342 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.480 actually there's a lot of energy in the womb. And for me, the 343 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.839 energy world fascinates me because it's the energy world that makes the physical world move. 344 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:18.640 And what I realized is we carry something called magnetism in our roomb. 345 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:26.000 Okay, Now, women that are disconnected from their room, they're very masculine. 346 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.319 Not because they're masculine, it's because they're very electric. I'm talking science 347 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:36.240 here, Like we are electromagnetic beings, so they become very electric. And 348 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:40.920 when women are electric, they can't be magnetic, right, So if a 349 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.599 woman is electric, she's never going to meet an electric man, so she 350 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.799 can't really be with a masculine man. And if she's electric, she's going 351 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:53.839 to attract a magnetic man, which is the man that is leaning more towards 352 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:59.960 the feminine side, and then she's gonna complain because she wants somebody more masculine 353 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.519 than her. But in order for her to meet that masculine or even transform 354 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:08.680 the energy in her existing relationship, she has to drop into her magnetism. 355 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.880 So it's like energy attracts, right, So if you have magnetism, you're 356 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.599 gonna get electricity. If you have electricity, you're gonna get magnetism. So 357 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:23.160 and that magnetism is inside the womb, it's inside the ovaries, it's inside 358 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.400 the womb, kind of like the energy of love and forgiveness is in our 359 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.519 hearts, right, kind of like the energy of logic is in our brain. 360 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:37.759 So that magnetism is in our womb. So you have the whole answer 361 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.079 to that, right. And when a woman drops into our magnetism, her 362 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.079 man becomes very electric so he becomes even more masculine, which is what every 363 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:51.160 woman wants. Every woman desires a man in his leadership, a man that 364 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.279 is kind of like the chief of the tribe, the man that knows where 365 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.160 he's going, that has a lot of ambition. But if she's in her 366 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:03.240 electricity, not going to happen it's it's just not going to happen, you 367 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.559 know what I mean? Yeah, No, that was quite brilliant. I 368 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.319 love it. It's it's almost like scientifically correct, you know what I mean. 369 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:11.759 You're the way that you talk about it, and I think it's really 370 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:18.920 easy to digest and to go, okay, that's that's a whole different idea 371 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.599 of you know, how the heck do I get into my womb? And 372 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.799 you're right, culturally, there's so much stuff around that it makes it very 373 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:34.920 different and very difficult to conceptualize, you know, something that yes, babies, 374 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:41.440 menstruation, and really honestly, that's about it, right, That's about 375 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.480 it. So men in their heart. So you know, a lot of 376 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.319 couples that come to us, they come mainly like not a lot, but 377 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.359 not the majority, but a lot of them do they come. And one 378 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:59.519 big problem that they have in relationships is like the man is always looking at 379 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.480 another woman or the man has you know, he's always interested in checking out 380 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:10.519 other women, and this creates so much like instability for his partner. And 381 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.039 when I look at the science or when I look at what's actually happening, 382 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.960 is like he's actually looking at women and this is always the case. Right, 383 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:25.839 he's looking at women that have more magnetism. So because he's craving that 384 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.519 spark, that's going to bring him back into his masculinity. Because the partner 385 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.359 he's with has a lot of electricity, she's become very masculine. So when 386 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.160 we work on her energy and her womb energy and she drops into her femininity, 387 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.599 he becomes super loyal. Now this is not to excuse anybody that's cheating 388 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.000 or having an affair like this is not what I'm saying here. But what 389 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.400 I'm saying is that it's even to that extent that because men are very primal, 390 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.079 like men are, like women are not as primal as men. Men 391 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.680 are very primal, and they function from like a yang energy, right, 392 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.279 So they're always looking at survival and they're always looking at, you know, 393 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.359 where they can seed, and they need magnetism. It's like they live off 394 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.960 of magnetism. And that's why a lot of women like will say something like 395 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.680 I don't know he cheated on me with like this really ugly woman because she's 396 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.000 looking at her physical looks. But maybe that ugly woman has a lot of 397 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:26.279 magnetism. That's what men need. It's like women crave emotional support from their 398 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:32.279 partners, which they never get, but men crave that magnetic, sensual, 399 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.400 soft energy. And a lot of women think that if they were going to 400 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.559 be sensual and soft, then they're not strong anymore and they're not powerful anymore. 401 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:47.759 But what I realized is the softer I got, the stronger I became. 402 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.400 The softer I got, the more powerful I became. So it's a 403 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.759 really interesting dynamic. And it goes the same way with men and their hearts. 404 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.920 Like women are disconnected from their wombs, men are disconnected from their hearts 405 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.960 because growing up, you know, they're taught you can't feel, because then 406 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.799 you won't be a man if you're emotional, or if you cry, or 407 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.799 if you have any emotion, then you're not macho enough. So that's like 408 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:18.759 discrediting his honor as a man. So what do they do. They disconnect 409 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.920 from their heart. They want nothing to do their heart because they want to 410 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.400 keep their pride like they're a man, right, But that's not going to 411 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:30.319 work in relationships, because you know, it's the emotions that build a relationship. 412 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.759 It's the emotions that create that deeper intimacy and that sacred connection, and 413 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.920 you know the same way woman comes back into her womb. When a man 414 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:44.920 comes back into his heart and he feels that safety to be vulnerable in his 415 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.160 emotional expression, and being emotional doesn't make him a whimp, does it make 416 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:53.119 him a sissy or whatever society has labeled emotional men, then he will actually 417 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:59.359 rise even more in his strength because he will have that compass of his heart 418 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.240 open. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I know exactly 419 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.000 what you mean. It's I can definitely see when we were talking pre show 420 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:15.799 on how you described the polarity right as what we think if you drop into 421 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.240 and you know, I think about I mean, I think about all the 422 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:19.759 people I know. I mean all the people I've known in relationships, some 423 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.960 friends that have been married forever. And I remember going to my aunt in 424 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.000 my first year being married, and I don't know what you guys, but 425 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.759 the first year of marriage was is interesting, right, and people like, 426 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:30.880 oh, the first year of marriage, you know, it's like you know, 427 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.640 because you're like, oh, it's going to be all bliss. And 428 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.000 then I remember I remember having our first fright when we were married, and 429 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.799 I was like I didn't know what to do. I was like, well, 430 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.680 I can't tell him to leave, and I'm not going to leave because 431 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.240 apparently now we're married. And it was so mind interesting, right, So 432 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.240 I'm like, well, what's what do we do? And I remember going 433 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.920 to my aunt and she had been married like almost forty years, and I 434 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:57.920 called her up. I'm like, let's go for dinner. She's like okay, 435 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.839 And so I said to her, I said, okay, so you've 436 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.880 been married for a really long time. This first year of marriage is interesting. 437 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.160 And we've been together already. We lived together like this wasn't like you 438 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.920 know, we lived in separate houses and game together and and she I said. 439 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.519 I said, I said, you know, how do you do it? 440 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.000 And she's she kind of looked at me, and I'm like and I 441 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:22.880 was like, if you could do it all over again, would you get 442 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.359 married? She's like absolutely not. And I was thinking, oh wow, 443 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.559 I see the wrong person. But but not, you know what I mean, 444 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:30.480 we kind of had a little josh about it. I mean, a 445 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.359 whole different generation, right. But the interesting thing is we all know people 446 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.359 that have been happy, not happy, not this, not that all these 447 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.079 different but you're all these different people like You're like, they're trying, but 448 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.279 everyone's got these different set of rules, right, Like in this house it 449 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.359 was okay to be emotional for a guy or this not. And sometimes people 450 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:59.359 have changed where you know, I've seen colleagues of mine become single parents of 451 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.640 two or three kids, and their femininity goes out with the laundry pile, 452 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.720 and all it is is just I'm doing, doing, doing doing, Like 453 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.279 you see a lot of people taking on roles or holding roles or holding the 454 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.440 world up. And I think that a lot of times they go into survival. 455 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.640 And I don't think men are in their heart when they're in survival the 456 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.200 way you're describing it. And I don't think women are in their womb when 457 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:24.599 they're in survival very often, right, So very interesting. Yeah, And 458 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.119 like when people center in their womb and their hearts, what happens is not 459 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:35.839 only relationships just get aligned, but you know, workflow, money, like 460 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.759 life in general, because you're in your elements, right, you are in 461 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:45.039 your natural elements, so everything works differently. You know, those days you 462 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.480 wake up feeling great, the whole day is going to go well, You're 463 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.400 gonna be like, oh, you know, coincidences start to happen, and 464 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.039 you know, people are really nice and be like, oh, I'm having 465 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.240 a great day. And you know those days you wake up grumpy and on 466 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.160 the wrong side of bed, you know, you to realize people aren't so 467 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.119 nice, and you know, you stub your toe in the wall and everything 468 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.960 just goes wrong. So when you are in your womb and when men are 469 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.599 in their hearts, you're in your elements. So those good days becomes a 470 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.400 life. It doesn't become just good days during a week. It becomes a 471 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:22.760 life. So you have that energetic momentum of you know, how do you 472 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.639 you get that energetic momentum to really align yourself to who you're always supposed to 473 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:34.400 be energetically. So I love our conversation. I'm loving the dialogue. I'm 474 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.840 loving the description. I think everyone's kind of doing a little bit of this, 475 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.519 right, a little bit of this. What do you say to men 476 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.320 and women that are out there where you know, like yourself, I mean, 477 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.119 you know, it sounds like your relationship really changed, you change with 478 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.840 yourself. But there's people that are out of relationships or single, or they're 479 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.360 like done, like done. Like when you describe that, I was like, 480 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.559 I know a lot of people they're like I'm so done. So people 481 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.760 that are not in relationship, how do they you know, how do they 482 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.320 utilize the information that you're sharing. Like do you do you have people that 483 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.639 are single that come to your absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, 484 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.280 Like you know, ultimately, the most important relationship we have is the relationship 485 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.199 we have with ourselfs. So even if somebody is single by choice, then 486 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.360 them optimizing their own relationship with themselves, you know, them becoming that world 487 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:36.440 class two point zero version of themselves, that's probably the grandest gift they can 488 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.960 give themselves. And if somebody is single and they're looking to meet somebody and 489 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.159 they're just not meeting the right person, like either they're not meeting you know, 490 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.480 somebody that fits their standards or their criteria or what they're actually looking for 491 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.159 in life. Then you know, again it's like a mirror. It's a 492 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.079 mirror, like what is your relationship if it's a woman, Like, what 493 00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.719 is your relationship with your womb? Are you disconnected from your womb so you're 494 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.639 meeting disconnected men? Or do you not have a relationship with your mood so 495 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.239 you're not having a relationship outside Like we go deeper into that, but you 496 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.159 know, we've worked with so many people that not only do they meet the 497 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.599 right person, but they meet their their forever person. Like they start, 498 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.920 you know, they get married, they have kids, and because they have 499 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.599 that healthy foundation, they don't go into that spiral of having the fights and 500 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:29.280 the problems and all of that. They start to grow. Like what you 501 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.920 were saying is very common, Like what happened with you when you got married? 502 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:37.119 Like a relationship has five phases. The first phase is, you know, 503 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.400 we're in love, Let's show each other the best parts of ourselves and 504 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.400 you know, let's go through life together. And this happens. The second 505 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.719 phase is, Okay, I'm getting to know the things I don't like about 506 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.800 you. You're getting to know the things you don't like about me. And 507 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.360 then the third third phase is like they commit to one another, but they 508 00:36:54.360 --> 00:37:00.039 don't have that foundation that's solid, so it becomes rocky. And if you 509 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:06.719 want to put it into statistics, like about eighty seven percent of all divorces 510 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.440 and separation happen at that third phase. Because they don't know how to move 511 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.239 on to phase four, they go back to phase one. So like phase 512 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.400 three, they fight, shit hits the fan. Then they go back showing 513 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.199 each other, the nice part of themselves, they rediscover a bit more, 514 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.519 and then again they get into these tremendous fights. But when you have that 515 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.000 solid foundation, you don't need to go through all of that. You can 516 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.400 just move into phase four, which is a divine union. And phase five 517 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:38.239 is that list that euphoria that, like the honeymoon phase, shouldn't end. 518 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:45.280 It should be your life with your partner, you know. So that's really 519 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.840 interesting. I mean, I know, I mean, I'm in alignment with 520 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.159 a lot of that you said, because I studied the philosophy of Tandra for 521 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.400 a very long time and I know you know, but it's very interesting. 522 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.000 You know, that was the one workshop my ex husband was willing to go 523 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.920 to. It's like, yeah, I'll go to that, but I know, 524 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.519 right, it's like not to talk to you or that. But I 525 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.760 love how you stay and honestly seeing that conscious conversation and when you talked about 526 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:20.239 being able to have conscious conversation and then having people feel safe, the man 527 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.119 and the woman in that place, like if I really let my walls down 528 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:28.639 and I'm really not, like you said, energized in a masculine way, 529 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.400 is is my partner going to be able am I Is it going to be 530 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.480 safe to be that person with that partner? Right? Yeah, that's very 531 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:43.079 important because what women ultimately desire is a man in his leadership, and what 532 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.840 women do on a subconscious level is that they will test their men. So 533 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:52.000 a lot of men don't understand why women snap out of no reason or why 534 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.039 they like ask like really like cheeky questions out of nowhere, you know. 535 00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.760 But what they're doing on a subconscious level is there testing his leadership, like 536 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.920 are you going to be solid? Are you going to show up? Are 537 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.039 you going to be the chief of the tribe? You know? And if 538 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:13.000 a woman doesn't receive that leadership over and over and over, of course her 539 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.119 walls are going to go up. But the thing is the walls go up 540 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.280 not because of the partner. Okay, it goes way back, like our 541 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:28.320 first relationship is our relationship with our parents. And almost everybody, every woman 542 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:34.639 has a mother wound and every man has a father wound, and it's a 543 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.679 whole world and journey of psychotherapy. Right. But when a woman does not 544 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.039 heal that mother wound, she will always have her walls up because she never 545 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:52.559 felt safe receiving nurture that's unconditional. So whether it's her partner or anybody else, 546 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.199 she'll always have her wole up. She'll probably have her wallup thicker with 547 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.760 her partner because he has access to her heart and that's very vulnerable for her. 548 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.400 And the same thing for men. Men have a father rund that goes 549 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.599 very deep. And you know what they do is they once they get vulnerable 550 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.239 with a woman, they disconnect. And that's why you know, they'll disappear 551 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.360 for two three days, even though they really like the woman or they love 552 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.679 her or whatever, and it's because they don't want to. They have their 553 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.320 wall, and their wall is avoidance. Like I'll just disappear so I can 554 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:28.599 calm my heart down, I don't like how vulnerable I feel, and then 555 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.800 I'll come back when I feel safe again with my shield. So you know, 556 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.519 the journey really starts with healing that, like healing the mother wound and 557 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:42.360 healing the father wound, that your safety is not dependent on how your partner 558 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.280 shows up, that you're safe no matter what's happening around you. And then 559 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:53.440 and then you can actually enjoy your relationship because you're not waiting or like you 560 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.119 know, being like in my culture, we say, being an owl like 561 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.159 having your eyes open waiting to see if he's going to do something wrong or 562 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.280 if he's going to do something right, to keep yourself safe because you know 563 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.440 that safety got cultivated through your own journey. It's so interesting because I think 564 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:13.480 about I mean, I have people in my life from all all different ages, 565 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.159 all different stages. Right, you know, I'm somewhere around that mid 566 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.960 life and I see a lot of people probably at the next stage. They 567 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.440 were like, They're just like, I'm good by myself. I'm happy by 568 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:30.079 myself, and I think that it's very it's very very, very interesting, 569 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:31.840 right, They're like, I've had my kids and this and that. I'm 570 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.360 like, do you want to have some love in youom They're like, I'm 571 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.480 good. You know, I'm good. So interesting. I mean, I 572 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.280 know, who am I to say that they're not. But okay, we've 573 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:45.239 talked about a lot. We've talked about a lot that's incredible. So the 574 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.239 one thing I want people to understand, well, first of all, I 575 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.760 want you to be able to share with us, you know, accessibility to 576 00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.079 you, because I'm sure there's people that have more questions. And we're going 577 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.400 to cover in a three part series, which I think we've done really well. 578 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.960 But when you say that there is so how much work does it take? 579 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.760 I guess is the question because there's getting in touch with yourself, you 580 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:14.599 know, and dropping into this womb place if you've got some stuff you need 581 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.679 to heal, Like what is the process? You know, give us kind 582 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.079 of a bit of a finale of what that looks like for people? They're 583 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.239 like, you know, do I watch videos? Am I at home? 584 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:27.119 Am I flying to where she lives? She's got a beautiful accent? Where 585 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.480 is she? Like? Dot's help? Because right, that's the piece of 586 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.559 people need to know. Is it? Like, you know, what is 587 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.920 it that you do? And how long? Even though this is probably an 588 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.400 interesting question with a difficult question for you because everybody's on their own journey, 589 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.320 but how long does it take for someone to start to get into this place 590 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:51.880 where they're changing who they're attracting, they're changing how they're feeling, their relationships 591 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.639 are showing up differently. What does that look like? Yeah, Like that's 592 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.760 such a beautiful question because ultimately that's the main question in everyone's mind, like 593 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.400 how long is this going to take? Because people want their love life sorted 594 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.679 like asap right now, our hearts, our love life. It's kind of 595 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.960 like a flower. You know, when a flower is wilting and you just 596 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.039 put some fresh water, it's gonna bloom very quickly. It doesn't take long. 597 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.400 But you got to put the right water. If you're going to put 598 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.440 like soda or something, it's not going to flourish. So it really depends 599 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:28.239 on the on the pathway that a person takes. So when I when I 600 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.119 when I started, so what started to happen with me is women and men 601 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:36.199 started to come to me. I was already a coach right twelve years ago. 602 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.000 I have an academy called New Earth Masters that teaches people like how to 603 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.880 live in like empowered, confident mastery. And you know a lot of my 604 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.480 clients start to show up for their relationships and I was like, hey, 605 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:51.480 how about I take them through the same process I put myself through, And 606 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.480 you know, boom, one after the other, Like not only did the 607 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:59.880 relationship transform, but they try like it's such a beautiful, fulfilling thing to 608 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.960 witness and to be a part of. You know, I'm so honored for 609 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.360 people that trust me to take them on this journey. So then I developed 610 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.599 the Divine Union Academy, and I created the specific flow that you know, 611 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.320 I've taken all these couples through and got success. So it's broken down into 612 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.880 five sections if I was to put it in linear flow. So the first 613 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:30.559 section is really about healing and feeling very safe with yourself and you know, 614 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:37.800 understanding the energy of trust, commitment, communication, respect, loyalty, so 615 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.519 like the real foundations of a relationship, like if these are solid whatever, 616 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.400 Like if you have a building that has such a solid structure, there's no 617 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.559 earthquake or a tsunomi that can demolish it, right, it's going to stay 618 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.599 standing, kind of like the pyramids. So that's the really the first section, 619 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.039 and we do that by healing the mother and the father wound. Women 620 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.079 do have a father wound and men do have a mother wound. It's minute 621 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.559 compared to the other parents, right, and then then we go into the 622 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.639 second phase. The second phase is really about becoming a world class version of 623 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:15.360 yourself. So women really diving deep into their femininity, their womb, understanding 624 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.800 their womb, Clearing their womb very important from all ex partners or you know, 625 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.159 anything that they've had happened like that alone is going to bring her shine 626 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:32.039 back online, right yeah, yeah, and and and like really learning how 627 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.559 to work with the womb, how to work with your magnetism, how to 628 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.719 increase your magnetism, how to do feminine practices that keep you like joyful and 629 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:46.199 sensual and soft yet solid. You know, how to work with your menstruation. 630 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.639 So you're because we're all business women at the end of the day, 631 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.320 So how do we put on both hats? How do we you know, 632 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.519 be in our masculine flow with business, but at the same time stay in 633 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.679 our clean energy. So how do we work around our menstruation with our menstruation? 634 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.960 So that's really the second for the women, and the second for men 635 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.000 is similar but for men. So how do you go back into your heart? 636 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:14.239 How do you claim that warrior energy that fears masculine, that isn't afraid 637 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.159 to have emotions, but also has a lot of direction and leadership in life. 638 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.400 And we do that through many different masculine practices. So that's the second 639 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.199 phase, and then the third phase is really how do you to show up 640 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:32.559 in a relationship interdependent and not codependent. So you're full, you're your world 641 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.119 class version. You're your world class version. Now how do you create that 642 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:42.679 kingdom together? Right? And it's really about understanding each other and your vision 643 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.400 together, and how do you create that vision? What do you do in 644 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.000 conflict? What do you do for intimacy? What do you do for love? 645 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.840 Like there's a whole flow on how do you too are on the same 646 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:59.320 page walking life with your own unique dance but towards the same vision. And 647 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:05.280 then the last phase is really about having that divine union where you take all 648 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.000 that I just shared and that becomes your minimum in life and you take it 649 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:14.519 to the next level and live that queen and king relationship that happily ever after, 650 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:19.000 that fairy tale love. So that's really what the Divine Union Academy is 651 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:24.519 all about. And you know, it doesn't the time wise. It really 652 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.039 depends on how much people spend on it. But we have like a lot 653 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.199 of couples that spend about two three hours a week and they start seeing results 654 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.840 within the third week. They start seeing like concrete results, not like those 655 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.599 small changes here and there, but like they start noticing like concrete results within 656 00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:45.039 like the third week, and then it starts to build from there. Wow, 657 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.079 well, it's good to give some structure and I imagine if there's a 658 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.679 I mean when we used to run countra classes, people used to go, 659 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.360 I can't believe you tuntra classes for people that are single. I'm like, 660 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.679 well, you know, of course, so I imagine you have that as 661 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.360 well for people that are not in relationship and they go through that process, 662 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:07.760 right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Wow. I feel 663 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:14.360 like we've gone through this whole just beautiful journey since we started talking. Is 664 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.760 there? You know, let's talk a little bit about you well before we 665 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.599 wrap up. So what has it been like to step into this whole? 666 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.880 I mean, you know what a whole different world? Right? You said 667 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.199 that you were coaching twelve years ago when you were teaching more mastery of life, 668 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.880 right, and then all of a sudden people started to come to so 669 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.920 what's your like, what's your life like? Now? Where are you? 670 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.039 You know, where do you live? What is it? You know, 671 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.039 what has your world turned into? Because when we talk about people stepping into 672 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.000 the mission, it's really interesting, right, Like, you know, my 673 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.719 mission had turned out to be thirty years of an entrepreneurship and I didn't know 674 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.159 I was going to have a media company, you know, ten years ago. 675 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.480 I'm just like you didn't, so kind of give us a little bit 676 00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.199 of insight into what's what your world is like? Now. Yeah, yeah, 677 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.000 it's interesting because you never really know where life takes you. But when 678 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.360 you when you say yes to the calling, you end up realizing, you 679 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:12.960 know that you have such a beautiful space in the world. So for me, 680 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.920 I still have New Earth Masters. So we have a global Ascension academy 681 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:22.559 that teaches people all different paths of mastery, so mastering your abundance, mastering 682 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.880 your healing powers, mastering you know, your psychic ability. So I was 683 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.719 in that Wuhu world and you know, it's a global academy and you know, 684 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.159 we've helped thousands and hundreds of thousands of people through that. And within 685 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.920 the New Earth Masters, we have the Divine Union Academy where we specialize specifically 686 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.599 on relationships and you know, really help people master their love life. Like 687 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:51.360 for me, the way I live today is that nobody should settle like like 688 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.920 for me, it's because you know, sometimes we think that we it's not 689 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.559 possible for us, like how are we going to have this amazing love life? 690 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:00.840 And I used to be that person, Like you know, when you're 691 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.599 talking about your friend that's like I have my kids, I don't need a 692 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.400 relationship. That's who I used to be too. But nobody should settle with 693 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:15.440 something so important. And when we are in a beautiful relationship, like gosh, 694 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.199 like the level of intimacy we discover within ourselves, you know, it's 695 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.480 just next level. So Divine Union Academy does that. It really helps people 696 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:28.360 with relationships. And both our work is online, so we you know, 697 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.119 we teach people all around the world. We host coaching classes on Zoom. 698 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.760 We do host live retreats. We have three four live retreats a year. 699 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.159 We have one in Dubai in February. We just had one in August here 700 00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:44.320 in Bali, and that's where I live. I live in Bali. The 701 00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.000 thing is what I love about having our work online is we travel a lot. 702 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:52.480 So we used to live in Dubai and then we moved to Hawaii and 703 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.360 then now we're in Bali and you know, we're just flowing and you know, 704 00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.599 it's beautiful here. It's sunny and the ocean's amazing and yeah, wow. 705 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:07.719 Well I always at the end as we wrap things up and before you 706 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.599 share with people where to come, you know, find out more about you. 707 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.400 I do want to share that this beautiful woman is going to be writing 708 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.320 in the two sixty two book. You guys know that we are in this 709 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:25.679 amazing, amazing, powerful experience of just we say it's for women and those 710 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.239 that love women. So I think that just goes so well with you, 711 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.280 just with what you just shared, I mean our I mean it's about solidarity 712 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:36.679 for women. You can't just have women as part of that party. It's 713 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.000 like women and those that love women, they come. We've had thousands of 714 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.360 women come to the summits and as you know, we have twenty two of 715 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:46.239 them and we've just gotten started in that and this woman is going to be 716 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:52.039 speaking. She is going to be speaking on the one of the most prominent 717 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.039 summits of this party, as well as you're going to be able to read 718 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.119 so much more about her and talk about herself in in the book the two 719 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.719 sixty two and then of course share with the world what she does and invite 720 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.960 to come play. So we have the two sixty two projects, but I'm 721 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.320 just going to kind of take us in a whole different direction. And everyone 722 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:16.960 knows that's ever listened to this podcast more than once or been in my world 723 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:21.400 for more than fifteen minutes. Then I absolutely love music, and I think 724 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.440 music is one of the most powerful healers, if not to the most powerful 725 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:29.320 healer in the world because it has no judgment. You can love a certain 726 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.360 type of music and say I don't like jazz, but you love jazz. 727 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:37.400 But we love music. There's never any animosity around music, right. If 728 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.360 you love music, you love music. So I think it's a very powerful 729 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:44.760 healing vibration. I'm sure you agree. So I always love to say to 730 00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.079 people, and ironically, you are living. I always inay to people. 731 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:51.719 If you were packing and you add one suitcase and you were on your way 732 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.760 to a desert island and you only had room for one album, what album 733 00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.760 would you take with you that you could not imagine not listen to for the 734 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.679 rest of your days. So I'm going to ask you that question. What 735 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.119 would that be for you? Oh? I love music. I love all 736 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:13.360 genres as well, but if I had to choose one, it would be 737 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.880 Bob Marley, it would be reggae, It'd be Bob Marley, all right, 738 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.880 all right? So yeah, I always love to answer that question. 739 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:23.239 So please tell people where they can find you. And I know that you 740 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:28.320 have a special gift. I know that our listeners are going to like, 741 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.440 hey, you hung in there, you guys. Some of you probably you 742 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.840 know, put stop and when you did some stuff and came back and maybe 743 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.039 listened to it a couple of days later or whatever. But for those of 744 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.760 you that hung out with us to the end, you always know that there's 745 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.880 great treats at the end with us. So I believe in pre show you 746 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.360 said that you had something for somebody, so please share. Yeah, yeah, 747 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.360 absolutely so. Yeah, So I'm giving away one of my signature master 748 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:59.199 classes. It's called the Five n in Secrets to instantly amplify your intimacy and 749 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:04.360 your sexual connection in relationships. So you know, this is my gift to 750 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.639 the listeners here. And you know, I'm sure you're gonna give them how 751 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:09.559 they can get it. Maybe there's gonna be a link somewhere next to this 752 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:14.679 video. Yeah, absolutely, they'll they'll they'll have all your information. Yeah, 753 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.960 and you know, and watch the whole masterclass. Like for me, 754 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.559 this masterclass is the one that's filled with gems. It's like one of my 755 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.280 favorite ones. And if you want to find me, you know, you 756 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:30.559 can simply head to Divine Union dash academy dot com. So it's Divine Union 757 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:37.320 Dash Academy dot com. Awesome. Okay, so we are going to until 758 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.320 we meet again, my friend, any last minute anything, whether it's got 759 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.360 to do with your business or life. Is there any last message that you 760 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.559 would like to share with our listeners today? Yeah? Absolutely, I want 761 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:54.400 to share the gift of loving yourself. So if you're going to take anything 762 00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.920 from you know, our whole talk today, you know, just give yourself 763 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.320 a bit more love. Like you deserve to love yourself. You deserve to 764 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:06.719 give yourself a bit more today. You're an amazing person that has an amazing 765 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:12.119 personality and you don't need any more things in your life to make you great. 766 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:15.800 But what you do need to just acknowledge yourself and tell yourself, you 767 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:20.800 know what, I deserve the best and only you can do yourself the best 768 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.079 in life, So give it to yourself. All right, I'm going to 769 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.239 take I'm going to drink that one. I'm going to drink that one. 770 00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.039 Man. Thank you so much for being with us and you guys, you 771 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.440 know how much you mean to me. We are so grateful for you as 772 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.119 listeners. And I am sure just like we promised in the beginning that you 773 00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.440 feel a little bit more royal, you feel a little more like I deserve 774 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.800 something. You feel like I'm going to take some action and maybe I'm going 775 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.360 to come out of my shell a little bit, or I'm going to warm 776 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.239 up to that idea, or I'm going to stand up to that idea. 777 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:53.880 So we know we're going to see you in the stand up, speak up, 778 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.559 and show up events. But you know what, if you want to 779 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.639 be sitting or not a sitting and you've got something beautiful and incredible that you 780 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.400 want to share, you want to share about your mission, you want to 781 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.119 talk about whatever that has been like for you, then you know what to 782 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.480 do. It's really easy. It's devadev drummond dot com. I made it 783 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:14.400 super easy for you. Or you can just go to dev Drummond dot com 784 00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.480 and send me a little message in the contact and we'd love to have you 785 00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.159 on the show. So thank you for being you. Thank you Nadas so 786 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.239 much for sharing and being transparent and thorough, and thank you for doing this 787 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:28.119 trilogy of teaching for us. We're super grateful. Thank you for everything that 788 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.519 you do. And until we see you again. You guys, you be 789 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.760 well and stay Ruby. Bye for now.