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going to discuss a couple of big
time athletes who are involved in really allegations

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of hooking up with underage girls.
But what does this whole have to do

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with Mike Siroy. I don't like
how you. I don't like how those

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sentences work together. I would say
nothing. Can you only say that nothing

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involving the underage girl part? Well, thanks, but there's something there,

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and I do think it could be
a get rich fast scheme and I'm interested,

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very interested, And we'll discuss in
a second. First of all,

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the Twin Sopranos ended. Yeah,
we just got one with a big fast

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sun famous about the twenty fifth anniversary
of the Sopranos, which is today.

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Yeah, we never got to the
final episode, which I think deserves certainly

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a few minutes with discression. Like
I said, when I first the first

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episode saw it was the last episode, I went to a watch party and

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I remembered it, and obviously it
was such a talking point. Everybody had

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opinions, and I watched the whole
season with that almost just in my head.

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That one final I knew how it
was going to end, and upon

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rewatch man, I cried in the
last episode, knowing that it was coming,

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and maybe it was the expectation of
it coming, and it was really

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weird. I was more I mean, I'm gonna I'm an easy crier,

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and movies and stuff, but it
got me really good and it was just

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beautiful and I kind of love it. I know. At the time it

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was so controversial and people were so
mad, and then the whole overstated cliche

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of everyone thought their cable went out, you know, but anytime you can

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end a series that's that good,
And I wonder how the series would be

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rated if it wasn't for that controversial
ending. Still very well, but had

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they ended it some other way,
some overt way, if it wouldn't be

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number one on a lot of these
lists. Because it was such a controversial

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and cool, open ended a kind
of way to end it. I think

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that's what made the whole series so
unique. I think it's one of the

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hardest things to do in television,
movies, sketch comedy is to stick the

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landing. And if you can do
what David Chase did right there is kind

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of leave it ambiguous where everybody's talking
about it, but in your heart of

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heart, you know what happens right, and that's the finality. There's no

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epilogue, you know, there's no
what's in the future for it. Now.

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It just ends. And because that's
how life is, you know,

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you're here one day and gone the
next, and you just don't know when

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that day is going to come.
I don't know. I think it was

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I thought it was perfect. I
absolutely loved it. I can see why

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people got mad. But if you're
going to end that thing and you're not

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going back to it, that was
the perfect way Landing was stuck. A

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show that's smart doesn't need a spoon
fed ending with bang bang no no.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that would
be weird. But just to watch it

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again, and I watched right after
I watched it a few you know,

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recaps and thoughts, and he says
early on, I think in season one,

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you know, he talks about the
one you never see coming, you'll

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and you don't hear a thing,
and then there's some teasers throughout the course

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of the show about not hearing things, and whatever hear thing happened. He's

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in there, you know, the
bell ringing, the Pavlovian bell that keeps

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ringing, watching people come in and
seeing everyone he loves come in, and

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that music, which was an interesting
music choice, and then it just black.

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I mean art, dude. It's
a pop culture talking moment too that

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will never be forgotten. So you
have that as well. You'll never hear

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like, don't stop believing by Jersey. You've seen that show, you're going

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to think about that that diner scene
and I almost played the whole song too.

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Upon seeing it. I was like, the music started early, and

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I knew there was some plenty of
time left, so they let it build.

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Oh my Meadow comes in late,
you know, and she has trouble

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parking. Yeah, and that's ten
incredibly and you're like, it's something gonna

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happen to her. Yeah, a
big stack of onion rings and then pause,

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that's on the table going down too. There's also again I put off

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watching that show for over twenty years
just because well I guess when the show

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ended at five or oh six,
which came on I'm in high school.

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Well that's ending nine longer than that. Okay, I thought either way,

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I was in college not having really
a lot of access to HBO. Point

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is, you know what happened though
you're hearing what happened, and that prevented

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me from ten plus years from seeing
it. Just thought I know what happens

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though, I know that's how it
and that's dumb and that's stupid, but

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we do that. I think.
I think, well, that's like like

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anything, until you start, like
getting immersed into something, you don't fully

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understand it, or you pretend like
you or you know what. This may

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just be a male thing, but
maybe I think it's a little bit of

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everyone. You just kind of think
you know more than you do a lot

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of the time. I know I
suffer from that sometimes, and it's like

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you have this week. No,
Well, I'm a beast and I'm correct

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about a lot of things. That's
the other thing. But like, yeah,

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if you just dive into something and
you realize, Okay, this is

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great and it is deep and it's
layered and it's a great show. I

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don't know if it wouldn't make a
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shows, but it's probably one of
my top ten like best shows. You

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know, See what David Chase did
is the ultimate in because you described that

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last scene. It's a piece of
art, right, yeah, Like it's

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a painted and what he did is
a beautiful piece of television art. If

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you can say that, I'm gonna
say it and the whole series that way.

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It's a beautiful piece of art that
somehow got enough mass appeal to get

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enough eyes on it and enough people
to like it to where it is historical

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now. And I think that's a
great achievement for someone who creates, because

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typically if you make a piece of
art that has that much density to it,

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it's most folks just don't get it. You know. They want stuff

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that's a lot easier to digest.
They don't really want to think about things.

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But he made a show that was
incredibly entertaining to the masses too.

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He kind of checked all the boxes. And that's just it's his legacy,

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you know, it's a legacy for
damn near everybody involved in it. You

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were talking about off air, who
else in that show that was of any

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relevance whatsoever, has gone on to
do anything anything at all, much less

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anything that rivals their contribution to the
Sopranos. Yeah, and they didn't.

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No Falcon really Yeah, eighty Falcon
was great, and she won Emmy's for

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Nurse Jackie. And she's just you
know, she's a great actress and will

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always work if she wants to.
Uh. Michael Imperioli, he had a

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career before that. He was Spider
and Good Fellas if you remember. But

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he's you know, gone on to
do great things since then as well.

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But the vast majority of people that
appeared in Sopranos, that's all they've ever

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done. Yeah, and you know
what, if I was one of those

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people, I'd be okay with that. I think Drea di Matteo was on

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OnlyFans now. I think you're right. She is story still married to Waylon

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Jennings, boy shooter. She was
hot then and now Kevin all right,

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So I guess the story we we
do before we get some talkbacks. This

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involves Wander Franco. He is the
shortstop of the Tampa Bay Rays. They

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signed him to a one hundred and
eighty two million dollar contract. He basically

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left the team in June. In
June or July and the summer, he

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was forced to leave because of allegations
that he was in multiple improper relationships.

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In fact, he had a sexual
relationship with the fourteen year old girl that

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was the allegations, while paying her
mother thousands of dollars in exchange for consent.

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Those are the allegations or the true
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but what this has done has damaged
the value of his once desired autographed baseball

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cards. Now, this is just
some card experts talking here. That's a

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unique situation where you're dealing with an
active player who was heavily collected and sought

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after, one of the five Golden
Boys in baseball. People were banking on

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him, and his value index declined
seventy seven percent in the year twenty twenty

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three. So if you wanted to
flip it, well, first of all,

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they did. They did the whole
thing on Like vintage cards is the

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safe way to go, because your
opinions of Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson probably

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aren't going to change. But a
twenty nineteen Wander Franco card, it was

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a Bowman chrome gold refractor. I
don't even know what all that means.

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But you might your brother, you
and your brother in the collectible network.

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It was bought four all round up
here forty five hundred dollars last June,

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graded or not okay, a rare
twenty nineteen Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Auto Franco

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card bought for forty five hundred dollars
last June, sold for nine hundred and

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thirty dollars in October. Damn so
lost all that value today could possibly be

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under nine hundred bucks. It was
on the market, so no charges have

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been filed formally, and this could
just be not true, right, so

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that the option like they used examples
of Kobe Bryant, no J. Simpson

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like, people didn't just start getting
rid of their cards of those guys.

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You held on to it. But
with the Franco thing, another thing that

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they're doing on the market is buying
cards of these guys who have had allegations,

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right, and then you store them
away because it's just like reverse,

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you know, just reversing the market
a little bit. So if the values

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are down eighty or ninety percent,
I'll just buy it for cheap. Who

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cares? And if the story turns
out to be bs and he's back and

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he's a Hall of Famer, then
my card's gonna be worth a ton of

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money. And I just thought that
was right down the alley of our friend

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Mike Siroy here, who owns a
Josh Giddy card, the guard for the

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Oklahoma City Thunder, who, quite
frankly, this story has been out of

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the headlines for about a month and
a half now when there are allegations of

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him having sex within underage girl.
Yeah, and he's kept playing and the

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stories kind of went away. Well, when people talk about the Oklahoma City

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Thunder, they talk about them playing
positionless basketball and scoring one hundred and twenty

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five points a game and being one
of the top three teams in the Western

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Conference. They're not only talking about
Josh Giddy much. Yeah. Do you

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ever think about selling your Giddy cards? I have a massive collection of Josh

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Giddy cards, not since the great
Ohio state wide receiver David Boston did I.

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Yeah, if you want to really
waste some time, I'll bring my

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entire David Boston collection in It will
cover this table. That's ridiculous. I

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was positive David Boston was going to
change the National Football League. Him and

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Jake Plumber. I got his autograph
at at Cardinals training camp up in Flagstaff,

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Arizona, on the exterior of a
graded card because I was so sure

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you were jaded by geography, weren't
you. No, Well, I liked

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him prior to that, but not
since then have I invested in a single

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player as much as I've invested in
Josh Giddy, long before these allegations came

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about. But it's funny because I
have a spreadsheet and Excel spreadsheet with all

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my Josh Giddy cards and the date
I bought them and exactly what I paid

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and what they are very organized,
which is odd for me. I'll tell

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you this on a what month is
eight August August ninth of last year,

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I bought a Josh Giddy Panini Prism
Silver Prism Rookie card graded PSA ten that's

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kind of the classic perfect It's not
autograph, but it's kind of like it's

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like the classic great best card of
his and I bought it for three hundred

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and twenty two dollars, graded PSA
ten, and then I The last purchase

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of any Giddy card I made was
on August twenty sixth of last year until

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six days ago, when exactly what
you're saying is I was perusing the prices

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and they have plummeted and I bought
I bought another exact version of that Panini

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Prism silver Rookie card PSA ten for
one hundred and twenty nine dollars. So

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I paid three twenty two four months
ago. So they've dipped to almost what

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sixty percent exact same card one hundred
and twenty nine dollars. Yeah, And

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because now it's like, if you
believe in the dude, he's still twenty

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years old, he's super young,
and just like Kobe, I don't know

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that Josh Giddy's gonna lead that kind
of career, but allegations if either proven

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incorrect or are forgotten over time,
if he leads the Thunder to multiple titles

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orchestraded somewhere, I mean, I
think it can turn around for the value

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of his stuff. And I'm so
invested already. Why wouldn't I just a

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little more into exponentially cheaper cards that
I was buying four months ago. That's

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fascinating though, Yeah, because if
you have all those, you spent thousands

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of dollars on the wonder Franco because
he was, as they said, one

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of the five Golden Boys of baseball, which you know our buddy Kavanaugh bought.

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I want you to Evan Carter cards
and chick, but God forbids something

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and it won't because he seems like
a good kid. Yeah, but God

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even happened Evan Carter. They's like, what do you do? And the

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strategy to go under an undercut it. I might as well load up on

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these guys who are have off the
field issues. Yeah. A few months

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ago, I very much wanted Josh
Giddy to make national headlines. Yeah,

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but that's not for that, That's
not the kind of head And well,

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I want to congratulate you. Want
to officially congratulate you right now for not

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being involved Thank you with Josh Giddy
or or Wander Franco. Just wanted to

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put that out there. There was
speculation being involved in that type of you.

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I just I'm glad that to know
now since you have no involvement with

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underage girls. Mikey yep, Yeah, okay, So let's use the h

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imagine to kind of see when the
next one is. So, uh,

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let's get right to these talkbacks brought
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here we go. Yeah, I
just wanted to shout out to y'all and

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tell y'all that I'm right there with
you about the thought of technology getting to

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the point where we're gonna have personal
drones taking his places. And I've already

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thought about this quite a bit,
and we should call him helicopters. Okay,

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we'll test it. I like it. I like a big, long

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set up. I love the awkward
silence that he left in at the end

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of his phone call. A little
buffer perfect. Okay, So, Roy,

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it's gonna be funny when you take
off of your personal drone to head

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to work and all of a sudden, your drone takes off north starts heading

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towards light farms, and then his
game room. Ben is hysterically laughing going

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Haha, he's finally gonna have to
play call of duty with me. I

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don't need Ben with the ability to
hack your drone to fly me to his

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house and tumped me off in the
front yards distance. And the only way

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to get you back home safely is
to do one full round of cooks.

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And Ben's just standing shirtless in his
front yard with his controller in his hand,

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laughing maniacally. Shirt look at you
now. Sharon has to have a

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poster of Randy Rhodes on the wall
so she can make love Dawsie. That

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a rock joke. Yeah, I'm
gonna have a Harry Styles album and a

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salad delivered by drone to Dinghu's house. Salad like these nice short ones too.

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By the way, short ones much
better chance of getting on the air.

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Hey, what's up, guys.
You said to do a talkback if

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it's your first time doing a talkback, So here you go. Love you,

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Hey, dude, that's that's all
you had to do. That's good.

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There we go. Hey Danny,
you're right, I grew up in

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the country. You see that drone, you'd be like, hey, look

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that's going to Dwayne Lee's house.
You know it's got SIGs and booze on

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it. You get the fishing net, I'll shoot it and you catch the

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stuff the fishing net. Boy,
I thought of just the fun of shooting

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down drones. That gotta be a
good shot, not to shatter the bottle

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of Kentucky Deluxe though right, I
didn't think of the porch piracy angle of

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it makes way more sense. Absolutely, you have floating gifts. At least

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the drivers. Now you know,
we'll try to at least hide your stuff

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if you have like a partition or
a plant. You know, they don't

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want your stuff to get ripped or
nicked. Well, okay, tomorrow we're

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gonna have a little fun with a
super wild card pump session at eight am.

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The history of the Cowboys and pack
in the playoffs that involved some wild

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on the field speeches, and I
mean I went through this last night and

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it's nuts, and I think you
guys are gonna love it. Tomorrow eight

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o'clock will do that. Oh yeah, we'll see if we have picks with

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Glenn's, might make some alterations and
things like that, and just have fun

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getting you ready for Cowboys and Packers
and all the other things that need to

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happen in the world. We're gonna
be all over it. All things that

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do happen, not things that need
to happen, All things that do happen

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in the world will be all over
it. So tired for JJ Jackson,

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for Mike's Roy for Nanny Bayliss.
I'm Kevin, Danny. I think it's

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your day. Yeah, Police,
Navi, Dad, little Sailor. See.

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I went high energy early in the
show and then the low energy came.

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I prefer a balanced attack, but
the energy is the problem. By

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sid Want six am