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On the occasion of your New Year's
celebration. My fellow Americans, and I

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extend our very best wishes well the
prosperity and well being of the government and

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the people of Vietnam. This is
Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

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I'm speaking to you, the peoples
of the Soviet Union, on the

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occasion of the New Year. I
know that in the Soviet Union, as

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it is all around the world,
this is a season of hope and expectation.

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Slow him, good them, slove
him, ShaSS him. Years from

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now they'll be talking about it.
They'll be talking about this great, great

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thing that we did. Welcome everybody, Happy New Year. It's the Ricciy

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Podcast, number six hundred and seventy
two. I'm James Linlax here in Minneapolis,

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where it's bright and it's cold,
and we're looking forward to a new

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year. I don't know why,
because there's just no point to New Year's

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is there. We all know that
nothing changes, nothing changes except the rent

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is due. Really, I mean, the whole idea of New Year,

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New me is ridiculous. You come
up with some resolutions and things you're going

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to do, and we all know
that they founder on the rocks of February,

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if not earlier. I actually find
it easier to make little, tiny

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changes and resolutions that I know that
I will be able to fulfill. I

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vow to have a small chocolate mint
covered pretzel every day after lunch. I

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think I can do that. I
vow, actually, this is my New

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Year's resolution every day, thanks to
the miracles of ample music, to listen

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to one new artist that I've never
heard before from start to finish and not

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give up after fifteen twenty seconds because
it's auto tuned and thumping or the rest

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of it. But really, actually
to try to learn something new musically every

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day. It's not hard. It's
the things that make you get up and

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go someplace and do something like workout
or quote something that you love that you

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don't want to do. That's the
stuff that never works. So I don't

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know why we put ourselves to this. Well, we do because it's January,

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right, and January is the start
of everything new. January, as

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we all know, is named after
right Janus Roman, god of doors.

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First learned about him when I was
a kid. I first of all,

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I was freaked out by him because
he had a he had two faces,

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he had one, you know,
normal forward facing face, and then one

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in the back. I thought,
how does that work exactly? How do

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you manage all that sensory input?
Why would you want if you have a

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cold, does the back nose run
at the same time as the front allergies?

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You've got four eyes that are going
to be driving you nuts. And

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how roman is it really to have
a god of doors? I mean,

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these these guys you understand after a
while the appeal of monotheism, because when

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you have God's cluttering up absolutely everything. The God of you know, the

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God of desks, the God of
chairs, the gods of pens, the

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gods of dog everything. Everybody's got
a dog. You figure, you know,

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something comes along and says, no, there's just one. It's going

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to simplify thing. It's you.
I'm going to bundle it all into one.

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But then, of course human nature
being what it is, that gets

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complicated as well, with saints and
what they're in charge of them. I

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put three people in a room with
one thing, and at the end of

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the day, two of them are
get to a gang up against the other

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as to what the one thing means. Anyway, I was wrong as a

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kid and just thinking that Janie had
to do with doors. No, he

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had a lot more to do with
that. He was the god of beginnings

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and as such was regarded by many
in those days and Lord the complexity of

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Roman deities and their stories, he
was the first. He was the number

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one guy. He started everything out. So when you started the day,

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he prayed to Janice. When you
started a new business enterprise, you played

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prayed to Janney. When you pray
to a god, you prayed to Janis,

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just because the beginning of everything.
And if you go back and look

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on your Wikipedia, you will find
that he was also related to the god

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of portals, because they had a
different god for portals as for doors.

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Okay, I don't know why they
needed that. I don't know if they

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had to do some reconciliation sessions there
where they divide it up. Okay,

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you're gonna have harbors, he's gonna
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he's gonna have like business doors and
the rest of it. But you

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know, when you study the whole
story of Janis, it turns out that

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he ravaged some nymph and in the
process made her a goddess and she's now

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regarded in their view as the goddess
of hinges, the goddess of hinges.

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It's not the most it's not the
biggest job you can have, I suppose

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in the pantheon. And if you're
a guy who fixes doors for a living,

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I imagine that you probably would be
burning some salt and some you know,

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some spelt to her every day before
you went to work. But really

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so, yes, Janie got a
doors, but of so much more and

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less. We think, however,
that it's kind of silly. They have

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a got of doors. They had
a god of hinges and a god of

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knobs too, and that just sounds
like something that you should just say as

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an epithet when you're disappointed in something, Oh, God, lot of knobs.

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Well, there was a person who
had to sit by the door,

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of course, like me right now, who is there between the thing from

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which you come and the thing into
which you go being the next year,

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And that person was named after the
god of doors and beginnings, Janice,

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And from that we get Janitor.
So in a way, when we say

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a janitor and we see the people
around the building doing what they do to

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clean things, it's actually part of
an old and noble tradition, and for

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all we know, the janitors for
two thousand years have been part of a

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secret society actually that knows all,
sees all, and actually keeps everything working.

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I know, without them, nothing
gets picked up and thrown away.

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So thank your janitor today, That's
all I'm saying. It being the beginning

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of the year or the end of
the new, dependent at the end of

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the old, depending on when you're
listening to it, I'll bet you wondering.

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I hope there's a roundup of this
year, because I really would like

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to revisit all the awful things that
happened and confirm my priors and revel in

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all the things that went awry and
weep and moan and rent garments and the

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rest of it. I'm really not
in the mood for that. You can

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find it elsewhere, but I find
year end summations to be hideous, to

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be honest. Oh, we have
lots of actualities as to what I as

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to what happened, and we might
get to those. But there are two

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things that I want to do.
One of them is I posted on Ricochet.

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You know ricochet dot com. If
you're listening and you're not a member,

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you should be. I mean,
really, I'm trying to shame you

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into it for all these years now. No shame is not the word.

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No cajole. Welcome you. Extend
a hand to pull you through the portal

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of Janice to the place where you've
been looking for the Internet for a long

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time, the home of sane civil
mostly center right conversation. So I posted

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on Ricochet and the member feed,
which can't go to unless you remember some

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questions to see if anybody has any
questions of me about anything. I'm going

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to try that. I also thought, rather than looking back at the year

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here, it might be instructive to
go back to nineteen twenty four, nineteen

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thirty four and briefly look at what
January first looked like at the front page

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of the paper. What were they
concerned about? Well, for example,

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let's take a look a nineteen twenty
four. I just happen to have it

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right here in front of me,
thanks to newspapers, dot com, big

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headline. And I do this to
remind you that whatever we think is the

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most important thing going on in the
last year. They were thinking that then,

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were they right? Were they wrong? Was it actually affect human history

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in the years to come. Well. January first, nineteen twenty four,

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the Minneapolis Journal. Big headline top
above the fold hole page Obertagon halts war

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on rebels. Delay is ordered,
a waiting arrival of arms from US.

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Now Obergon is probably forgotten. I
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It has to do with the Mexican
rebel so we were supplying arms to

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them. We were involved in our
border state. We were having troubles with

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Mexico one hundred years ago. It
was a stunning surprise. Below that another

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headline, bits of wreckage from dix
Muede identified. Now, what I love

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about these old papers is that when
first the story of Dix Muede was broached,

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they had to explain what it was. But after a few days of

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newspapers, of course everybody knows what
dix Mute is. And in this case,

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Dick s Muede was a Zeppelin and
as such, as you might imagine,

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came to a not entirely felicitous conclusion. Zeppelin airship built for the Imperial

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German Navy, unfinished at the end
of First World War. Reading this off

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the top of my head, obviously
no Wikipedia. It exploded in mid air

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on the twenty first of December twenty
nineteen twenty three, off the coast of

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Sicily, killing all fifty two people
of forty two crew and ten passengers.

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As Wikipedia, this is one of
the first great airship disasters, preceded by

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the crash of the British R thirty
eight and the US airship Roma, and

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followed by the destruction of the Shenando
in twenty five, the British R one

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oh one in nineteen thirty forty eight
dead, and the Akron in nineteen thirty

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three seventy three dead, and the
Hindenburg in thirty seven twenty thirty six dead.

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So does the dix Mewed matter to
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Probably so, in that it was
part of a pattern of these things going

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up kaboom that led to the lack
to the diminished interest, shall we say,

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in flying around in a great ball
of a gas. So that's that.

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That was nineteen twenty four. They
were also, of course worried about

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the weather there. The mercury had
dropped to sixteen below in Minneapolis, which

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is not surprising entirely, and it
was a sedate reveling because you couldn't drink

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so much anymore. Oh and let's
see, Yes, a furnace had exploded

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and twenty five families were shivering somewhere
in Minneapolis in front page news, So

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that's twenty four. Part of it
is I think the newspapers, well,

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it has to do with the newspaper
you read. That was the sedate journal

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for the respectable people. The Star
probably reported about a whole bunch of people

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who doing nasty things. Well in
nineteen thirty four, I'm looking at it

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right now, nineteen thirty four January
first, that would be ninety years ago.

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What's the big headline at the top, thirty five hurt in eighty six

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crashes. Thirty five people here in
thirty five crashes or in eighty six crashes.

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Now that was the toll for the
year. It wasn't like eighty six

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people that wreck their car that night. But below that was a big deal

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about the conference rum bill. What
the conference rum bill is? Oh,

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it's just rum about letting people drink
more. Because it's thirty four, that's

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pretty much it. The whole front
page is car crashes, it's cold and

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you can drink pretty soon. Something
here, Oh, Chicago murders were up

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ten percent over the course of the
year, and Octave Thanet, novelist was

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ill. Here's one of yours,
your moments of realizing that all fad famous

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fleeting Octave Thanet. Do you have
any idea who that was? Pen name

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of a woman who was very popular
and wrote an awful lot of novels and

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was well known, and obviously so
by the fact he's on the front page.

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But she had the diabetes and she
would kick off about a week after

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that. Octave Thanet never heard of
her before, used to be a household

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name. Take note, writers,
that's what happens to us all nineteen forty

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four. As you can well imagine, well, uh yeah, headline Nancy

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Escape bridge destroyed by Italian coast leap
frog raid, Yanks take more hills,

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eighth gaining All this meant something very
specific to people in nineteen thirty four.

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They would know where the eighth was
and what the They would know what the

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eighth was and where they were and
what they were doing. Russ drive,

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perils Nazi river Army. That's a
headline, Russ drive, perils, Nazi

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river Army. A couple of the
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was below that, so you get
the feeling that the russ Our allies,

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of course good old Uncle Joe,
are on the move and the Nazis are

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on the back foot. Other than
that, it's pretty Oh yes, little

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tiny story down here at the bottom
of the paper. Twenty nine bombers lost

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in raid, twenty nine US bombers
lost in a raid. Front page,

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but below the fold. You're used
to that nowadays, Well you can well

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imagine. Come nineteen fifty four.
Well, hey, it's a swinging happy

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time, is right. Everybody's enjoying
hula hoops and rock and roll and everything's

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great and McDonald's and shakes and tail
fins and and happy time. Minneapolis Star

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January first, nineteen fifty four lead
headlines parents of seven shot after New Year

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party in city right below that in
big type as well. Two killed by

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hit run cars. Hello that blast
outdoor fell's gunman. So that was that

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parents shot, two killed, and
somebody shot a gun out the door and

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killed somebody who was moving around.
Good times. But a small story about

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a GI who changes his mind and
quits the Red Pow an American war prisoner,

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A guy who defected. Claude Bachelor
of Kerna, Texas, decided he

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was to go over to the other
side to the Norks, and turns out

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he didn't like it very much,
and thereafter he came back with his hat

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in his hand and was jailed.
Later got out and went to work as

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an accountant. Died about twenty years
later. So fifty four is pretty violent.

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Fifty four is looking violent. Let's
look at nineteen sixty four. What

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would your presumption of nineteen sixty four
January first be? Well, as it

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turns out, it's all local news. Astrian requests court to transfer trial to

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Duluth. Big trial. Nobody cares
what it's about now, But there's a

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little story down at the bottom.
Two US officers are wounded by viat cong

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and that, of course is going
to absolutely consume everything. Perhaps the story

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of most lasting significance is one little
tucked away in the front page. Biologists

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joint hunt for life on Mars.
Their tools, of course, were not

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as sophisticated as the ones that we
have today, but they were trying,

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they were looking. It's entirely possible
at night that twenty twenty four will be

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a pivotal year in the search for
life on Mars, or the attempt to

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put life on Mars, that life
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and his desire to get us there
gathers esteem. Nineteen seventy four, which

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of course is a horrible year,
area shivers in record colds. The major

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headline Mayor quits gas prices up US
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One sent a nation for additional nations
to raise crude oil prices. British began

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three day week to save energy.
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the and the price of everything was
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seventy four, we're pretty much sure
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in the future. It was all
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years. Of course, the idea
that the prices would go up and that

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would spur more exploration than the rest
of it. No, we were all

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very much concerned about alternative forms of
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any synth fuels. That was big, I remember that. But we were

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all going to get used to not
being able to drive very much in those

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days were over. We were,
of course wrong. And I can't really

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think of any era other than the
early seventies in which so many erroneous beliefs

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were adopted by so many. It
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for people thinking incorrectly or in correct
decisions, because when you look at you

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know, you look at nineteen forty
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They were fighting the Nazis, that's
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and they were getting rid of the ridiculous

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criminal enabling prohibition and saying it is
a civilized thing to enjoy a glass of

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whiskey. And well, my view, that's pretty much the way to go

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to. And in nineteen twenty four
in the paper I didn't note this,

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there was a note from Calvin Coolidge
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that we are a good, strong, prosperous nation. We should believe,

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we believe in ourselves, and we
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that's a good way to go.
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just falling apart here. So look
at at nineteen eighty four. Now you

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would think, of course, eighty
four America's back Morning in America and the

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rest of it. But you have
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time. Excuse me, Helmut,
there was my cough button. It used

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to be in a radio station.
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You have no idea how much the
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doom and misery, that everything,
everything was bad because of that Ronnie raygun

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guy right well, nineteen eighty four, Minneapolis Star Tribune, January First,

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it was a Sunday military takes over
in Nigeria. No bloodshed reported in fifth

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coups since nineteen sixty. And you
remember that military coups in Africa seemed to

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be the sort of thing that would
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five months or so. Nobody paid
any attention to them, and nobody cared

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mondale calls for removing marines from Lebanon
without forty five days. This is what

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Walter Mondale would say, force without
purpose is weakness, not toughness. The

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vulnerability of our marine's undermines not preserves
our credibility. Well, we don't know

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where that went. Let's see Navy
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are treating him well, says navy
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The flyer had been nabbed by the
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those days was a frequent intermediary element, had gone to speak to him.

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And then my favorite headline of all, which you probably can repeat in any

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newspaper for any place, at any
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growing reports may indicate growing problem.
Let me run that one by again.

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Growing reports may indicate growing problem.
Now it has to do with sexual

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abuse of children. But that's kind
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say, Come nineteen ninety four,
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aren't we. Nineteen ninety four seems
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which we inhabit right now. South
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a shooting spree in joe Burg,
and then there's something about a local gambling

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racetrack and that's about it for international
lose. Everything else is local because the

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paper had realized we don't need a
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tell you what's going on here.
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it's pretty good. We didn't think
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we were under the boot of Clinton. We were worried about Jack Puts knocking

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on our doors on behalf of the
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to believe. But we were going
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whole strange nineties paranoia, a bit
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Art Bell and all the rest of
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that something was coming, and it
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were expecting at all. The old
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appearing in the skies of New York, which means we go to two thousand

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and four, which is the last
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the headline is Americans Party under Orange
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mean anything to anybody in the future, but at the time it did.

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This was three years on and the
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something of the sort of we could
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we're nervous about it. But no, nothing happened. Year after year would

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go by and nothing would happen.
And we would become accustomed to nothing happened,

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nothing happening. I don't know about
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any of these gatherings to this day
without thinking something might happen. Why wouldn't

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it. While we may have cleared
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back in the day, they seem
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to do something about us. Statan
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in the headlines of that paper,
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of two thousand and four to come. You think, I think it's possible,

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and I think the same thing will
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the two wars ongoing in twenty twenty
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which will seem like an absolute,
complete and total mess, which it will

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be and often does, because it's
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cool and the winners and the victor's
right the histories that we tend to think

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that everything else moved smoothly. It
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seem particularly egregious, wouldn't you say, But that's for a two twenty four

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podcast with misters May rob Long and
Peter Robinson. I had asked on the

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Bricochet page whether or not anybody had
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if they, let's check here and
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there's anybody who did the wrong page. See if anybody who does. You

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know, this is the point usually
where I go to a spot but we're

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giving you a little break. We're
going spotlets this week. I could probably

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from memory give you a bowl and
branch for free. I could probably from

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memory tell you about all the wonderful
sponsors we've had in the past that have

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made it Ricochet possible. But the
thing is, it's really people like you

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who make Ricochet possible, who commit
to every month pooning up a small amount

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of money to say, yes,
I want this thing to go, and

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I want to be able to contribute. I want to be able to comment.

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That's the great thing. There's some
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go down into the discus in man, I tell you you just have an

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image of an awful lot of really
unhappy people who just love to do nothing

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more then sidle into the room and
issue a conspicuous piece of flatulence and then

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wander out as though some great witticism
has been undeployed. And it's the thing

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I like about Ricochet is that I
am constantly abraided by other people's mulish disinclination

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to agree with me or what I
have my head. So civil conversations with

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people that you've had civil conversations with
for a long time and who think differently

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about things is a big plus as
opposed to just marinating in the bath of

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everybody agreeing with everybody else. Oh, there are fourteen comments on this,

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let's see. Well. Don Tilman, who smells his name backwards, says,

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this is an opportunity for a record
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a podcast. I don't think I've
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to go to an ad and b
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the spokes of Rob Long and his
ability to derail any segment that I wanted

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to do. Jenna Stocker, who
by the way, is also writing for

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American Center of American Experiment around here
and is an absolutely fantastic writer, just

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great. I wanted to start writing
nineteen forties mystery novels too, said if

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you had a chat with the young
James Lillax about your life since childhood and

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which you're up to now, what
would he be most surprised to hear that

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it all worked out, that it
all actually happened. I mean, that's

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the thing. I became what I
wanted to become. I went where I

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wanted to go, and I did
what I wanted to do. I was

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a kid in Many in Fargo reading
the Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper. I had

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to go to the library to get
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big city. It was the it. It told me what was going on

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in the big town, to which
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as a small boy. When we
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really, I stated at Howard Johnson, I'd never seen one of these things

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before. Orange roof with a little
turquoise top, I'm thirty, how many

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flavors of ice cream? It was
just that futuristic lobby building, that that

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that that you drove that dad went
into to get the keys. I mean,

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I'd never seen anything. Then we
went to Southdale and an enclosed mall,

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the likes of which, of course
did not exist in Fargo. There

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were birds indoors in cages too,
story cages in the winter, singing.

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Ah. It was great. I
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and every visit I paid to Minneapolis
next, I only only reinforced that.

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And what I wanted to do was
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be in newspapers. I wanted to
write for the Minneapolis start So I wanted

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to be a columnist for the Minneapolis
Startribune when I was growing up. And

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I am. And that's I don't
know what more to say about that except

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whew, what a relief. It
all worked out. Am I disappointed that

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I wasn't challenged or didn't have bigger
ideas. What if I decided that I

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wanted to be a columnist for the
New Yorker. Well, I don't want

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to be one of those. I'm
happy here where I have an audience that

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surrounds me and has surrounded me since
the early eighties when I started writing in

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the college papers. So that might
be it. I might be surprised to

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learn that it worked out completely.
Thank you. Jenna john Stanley writes,

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The Vikings used to play in the
Minnesota cold, but now the Vikings play

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indoors. Is the movie Doors linked
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so. I think it's something else.

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I think it's a curse. It's
the curse that hangs over us. There's

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something deep in the marrow of the
Vikings fan that is unable to be happy,

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that knows that at the end of
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we'll ever get there. Never.
It never happened. It's supposed to

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happen. This year, it was
supposed to happen. Kurt was great,

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JJ is supposed to have after a
last year where her Ja was supposed to

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but we lost fourth straight and then
you know, went through four quarterbacks.

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So now second John continues. Is
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in the cold a link to post
season victories? It could be, you

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know, you look back at the
old shots of the Vikings playing in the

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snow, and the snow gathering on
the eyebrows and the caps of the people

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in the stand still cheering, and
you think there are heartier people than we

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are for God's sakes. A.
Yes, perhaps so. B they're drunk

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though pretty much short that everybody had
a nip of some snowshoe grog or peppermint

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schnaps, some fine Phillips products in
a flask that kept them warm. But

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yeah, that's the way football is
meant to be played, bruisingly endured in

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the outdoor elements. But on the
other hand, I've been inside the new

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stadium and it's absolutely gorgeous. And
I've been there when it's cold outside and

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I'm happy to be warm inside.
So yes, I'm a member of that

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debased, debauched, defeat, indolent, sybaritic crowd that can no longer endure

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the way things used to be.
Wisconsin con Wi Coon said, you work

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for the Star Tribune, are you? And there are some other noteworthy and

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otherwhile not worthy, There are still
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But the model doesn't seem viable.
Nothing new there. But are you seeing

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any viable replacements emerging? Uh?
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trying to do here at the newspaper, of course, is to transition to

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all digital. That's the future.
Hate to say it, sorry Tree industry,

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Sorry delivery guys, I mean and
sorry everybody who loves the newspaper,

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including me. But the move is
to all digital. The problem, of

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course, is what's that word,
I'm looking for money? The problem is

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getting people to exchange goods in exchange
their money in exchange for our goods and

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services. Because I was on Reddit
the other day and somebody had posted a

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story from the link from the Star
Tribune, a very important story from the

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Star Tribune, a story that only
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we had gone out and sent somebody. We paid somebody to go there and

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look and do and research and come
back and write it. And then we

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had put that information on pieces of
paper, handed them to a distribution system

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that put them all over town and
also put them up online for something that

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we paid for. And the person
said, you know all, I'm not

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going to pay to read that.
I'm not going to pay for news.

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Okay, all right, I get
that now. Somebody doesn't want to pay

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for something because they have a reason. A they don't like the bias,

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or they don't like what's being nobody's
obligated to pay for anything, but if

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you would like local reporting, you
generally have to pay somebody to go out

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and do it. The old days
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It's not going to happen. The
BLOGI sphere is an adjunct. It's a

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necessary corrective. It's good. People
do a lot. I mean people do.

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There are people who are who have
their niche and they do it.

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I'm not sure they do it as
much as they used to before, but

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generally, no, you have to
pay, and so it is you got

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to hand over some money. Now
who do you hand over the money to?

407
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.680
In our case, we are a
brand. We've been around, We've

408
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.200
been doing this for one hundred and
fifty years, and we have a track

409
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.400
record, and we have the standards
of objectivity. I know, I know

410
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:14.480
what people say, but I know
I know what goes on here, and

411
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.720
I know what we believe, and
I know what the ideas and the ideals

412
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:22.559
are. So the model that emerges
is going to be two or three competing

413
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.559
online sources, which will eventually require
either AU to pay or B somebody behind

414
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.640
the scenes to pay for it,
and you don't know who they are.

415
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.880
So I like our model. I
do. And there's more to it.

416
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.359
And I mean, if you just
have a I'll just shut up about it.

417
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.880
Just that's it. Y Kon goes
on to say, I get most

418
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.839
of my local news from our local
talk radio station. Their coverage is better

419
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.960
than the local broadcast news and less
biased than the local paper. Okay,

420
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:49.799
I don't know where that is,
but where do they get their news?

421
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.160
Where does the talk radio place get
their news? I mean in the old

422
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.160
days. I remember when I worked
for KSD KSDB a AM fifteen hundred.

423
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.839
Our news department was run by John
McDougall, who was an old TV guy,

424
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.799
and Bruce Gordon also, And it's
kind of a you know, a

425
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.079
rip and read is what we You
know the wire, you ripped the wire

426
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.880
off, you read the wire.
You didn't have any guy you did.

427
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.079
We did ksdbting and a lot of
guys going on the field for the AM

428
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.839
version, right and not MINDI talk
radio stations have guys who go out and

429
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:25.160
report, so if they do great. He goes on to say, there's

430
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.799
a need. But outside those dying
papers and the patch whatever that's considered,

431
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.400
do you see anything on the horizon. It seems like that there's another reason

432
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.480
people are more focused on DC versus
their local cities and states, as there

433
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.000
just isn't the coverage of states.
That's that's the problem. That's why you

434
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.799
need local organizations devoted to covering your
state, so pay for it, is

435
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.559
all I'm saying. Stad. I
had said that my promise to you is

436
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.480
no tiresome, depressing recaps of the
year, and Stad said, but quote

437
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:59.319
tiresome and depressing unquote is you at
your best? JK goes on to note,

438
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.480
do you miss doing National Review cruises? And are there plans to start

439
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.480
them up again? I know the
NR Institute still has them. Do I

440
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:15.279
miss doing the National Review cruises?
I don't know. Yes, yes,

441
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.839
I do very much so because I
love going on cruises. Can't get my

442
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.960
wife to go anymore because she thinks
she doesn't want to fall overboard, although

443
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.799
we might do some river cruise because
I guess you can swim the shore.

444
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.119
I loved them because I loved meeting
everybody and talking late at night at the

445
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.920
night Old Session or at the sessions
at the Crow's Nest Bar. I love

446
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.640
being in the Caribbean. I loved
being part of the NR enterprise. I

447
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:47.119
really did. It was great fun
and I may do it again. The

448
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:52.119
Institute is having them at Alaska,
and problem is is that they need to

449
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.160
get enough people. If they have
enough people, they can bring on the

450
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:04.079
second tier talents like myself. And
as I said to them last when I

451
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.000
was there, went out to the
National Review Christmas party in New York,

452
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.359
I said, you know, I
do offer a full spectrum service package here.

453
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.519
I'll talk a lot at dinner,
I'll talk a lot. In the

454
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.480
evening, I'll talk. I actually
will engage people at breakfast or on the

455
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.640
ship anywhere, not just at the
meetings. Fans, are you know full

456
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.799
customer service? I'm your customer service
guy, and we'll see what happens.

457
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.720
Full sized Tabby, well, thanks
for asking stad send him a letter,

458
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.279
tell him you want me. Full
Sized Tabby says, I would enjoy hearing

459
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.559
some of your most memorable or interesting
surprising experiences covering the State Fair over so

460
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.599
many years. Huh, that's interesting, State Fair. I hadn't thought of

461
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:52.559
that in a while. Mostly it's
these Quotitian moments that don't really add up

462
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.680
to anything except for a deep and
abiding love of the entire enterprise. I

463
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.079
mean, I was never there when
anything big and was I I don't think

464
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:07.679
so. I wasn't there when the
bull escaped and ran through the crowd and

465
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:15.360
killed itself by dashing its head into
a fire stanchion, you know, fire

466
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:22.920
plug bang. No, I heard
about it happened later. I have done

467
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.760
dozens of shows where I stand on
this little stage in the broiling sun with

468
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.880
a neon huge yardstick, trying to
get the audience to pay attention to me.

469
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:36.199
Those all blend into one. I
mean, I'll have a guest who

470
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.280
will talk about eating crickets, and
well, you know, I'll eat some

471
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.480
cricket peanut butter, and another guests
will come by with the flight of local

472
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.880
beers and I'll drink those in the
sun and then fall on my head.

473
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:51.840
All I remember about the fair is
just its existence and then its non existence.

474
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.880
The fact that I usually show up
the day before, when everything is

475
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:00.159
just getting set up and all the
grass is green and they're starting working the

476
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.480
friars, and the smells of everything
is just absolutely just wonderful. It's waiting

477
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.639
to happen. It's fresh and it's
new, and you know, the sprinklers

478
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.760
are making the are on the flowers. They're glistening in the morning light.

479
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.960
It's just but it's not the fair
because there's not a lot of people there.

480
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.360
There's not a lot of people walking
around with stupid t shirts and uh

481
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.639
and uh and expressions of expectation of
small children and old people and being it's

482
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.079
not the fair without the people.
And so when I show up and plunge

483
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.599
into it, it's just what it
was last year and the year before and

484
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:37.280
the year before. And even though
it's changed somehow, that place is gone.

485
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.800
That place is a new sign,
that's new, it's still just the

486
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.920
fair. And it goes back maybe
to what I was saying before about that

487
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.039
trip to Minneapolis, because now that
I think about it, at first trip

488
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.440
to Minneapolis, when I said the
birds were in the cage and the winter

489
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.000
inside, that wasn't true. Couldn't
have been, because it was fair time.

490
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:58.000
We went to the fair. We
went to see the Twins out at

491
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.559
met Stadium, but we went to
the fair as well. And as a

492
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.800
very small child, I stood there
and looked up at this gopher in a

493
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.360
turquoise in white sort of you know, music man suit, with a straw

494
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.599
boator and his cane, and I
associated him with a state fair, which

495
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.480
I was just in love with too, because I'd never seen anything of its

496
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:21.039
magnitude. I'd never seen anything with
so much noise and joy and the fargo

497
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.840
Fair. The North Dakota State Fair
happened about two blocks from my house,

498
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.119
and it was smaller as you can
well imagine. And at night I used

499
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.960
to sit there on my steps and
far go and hear the fair, the

500
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:36.360
distant sound of it, and the
screams and maybe the chuffing of machinery and

501
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.360
the rest of it, and I
would swear the days after the fair was

502
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:42.119
over in the summer, I could
still hear it. So I always loved

503
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.719
the fair, And to walk into
the one in Minnesota was just was just

504
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.719
the world. It was just the
world as it should be, with its

505
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.159
wonderful fried foods and corn dogs,
and it's malts, and it's spin art.

506
00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.320
We would make spin art, which
were involved taking these little things and

507
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.440
putting them on a spinning piece of
spinning canvas, and the fumes were so

508
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.280
carcinogenic that it's a miracle anybody for
my generation made a past fifty. So

509
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.719
I love the state fair and full
sized tabby notes. One of the delights

510
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.239
for me of state fairs that they
draw such a variety of people. And

511
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.519
that's absolutely true. Here's everybody.
You don't seeing the course of a day,

512
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.480
course of a week, course of
a month. This is Minnesota.

513
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.159
These who are, this is what
we are. Whatever you think about your

514
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.599
group, No, Steve C.
How do you manage your time? You

515
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.960
come across as very productive and yet
appear to wander off into tangents a good

516
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:39.599
deal of to me? What digressions? Well, since I have absolutely no

517
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.599
set things to do over the course
of a day, I have long ago

518
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:51.079
set my own routines. My day
goes on rails, and it always has.

519
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.760
When I was back in college,
writing people used to note, you

520
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:59.840
know, you're the only guy who
says he's a writer. Well, actually,

521
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.360
lights that's my secret. That's what
I do. I would make time.

522
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.000
I would sit down every day.
I'm going to do this. Now,

523
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.719
I'm not going to do that.
Then I'm going to do that over

524
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.639
there. This is my pinball time, this is my writing time, this

525
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.840
is my walking time. And I
stick to it, and sometimes it makes

526
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.119
me incredibly unflexible, and I get
twitchy if I moved off the schedule.

527
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.480
But Monday through Friday the life is
unrailed. The weekend the chalks are off

528
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.400
madness and madness. But that's how
I do it. I just and I

529
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.920
have set in and I can do
different things at different time, so I

530
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.920
don't get bored, because I get
bored very easily. Don g who would

531
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.400
like to remind us that c AGW
as a scam. By that, I

532
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:45.599
hope he means that the anthropogenic global
warming right goes back to wy Coon about

533
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.519
the Star Tribune me working there,
and notes young adults get their news from

534
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.840
TikTok. I didn't see that coming
newspaper existed before the advertising model. Will

535
00:38:54.840 --> 00:39:00.000
they exist after the collapse of advertising, just a different kind of advertising.

536
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:01.800
We still have advertise. I mean, we still have ads. We still

537
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.079
have lots of ads, and we
still have people go out there and sell

538
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.599
them, and we still have people
who use us as a medium to get

539
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.480
to the people who want to buy
this, that or the other. That's

540
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:15.480
great. We'll never be without ads, and that's one of the things that

541
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:21.400
we got going for you. It
just pains me to look at the ads

542
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.159
of the old papers and it's not
as you could just because there were so

543
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:28.039
many. I mean, Downtown had
Dayton's Department Store, Donaldson's Serious Pennies,

544
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.559
it had powers, It had all
of these stores, each of which would

545
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.760
take two three pages out in a
Sunday newspaper. The quantity of retail advertising

546
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.679
in the old newspapers is astonishing.
The newspaper on Sunday would be three hundred

547
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:46.599
and seventy pages thick. We're still
the third largest Sunday newspaper in the country,

548
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.079
but we don't know that. But
it wasn't just the big ads.

549
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.800
It was the little tiny ones.
I mean the profusion of stuff either for

550
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:59.760
scab medication or scrofula or qatar,
moving on to little tiny thing for golden

551
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.800
girls, milk and salt and all
the rest. It was just the eye

552
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.559
could could could linger on the page
of an ordinary newspaper on a Tuesday afternoon

553
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:15.800
and find a three dozen things to
think about. And that was just one

554
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.599
page. So we will exist after
the collapse of advertising. But by the

555
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.800
way, if you look back at
the oldest newspapers, they have ads.

556
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.679
I've looked at newspapers in the eighteenth
century in England, they have ads.

557
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.840
If you look at newspapers from the
nineteenth century in America, the front page

558
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.480
is almost all ads. And so
yeah, I just didn't have a lot

559
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.960
to sell. But lord, all
ads, shoes, books, cheap metal

560
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:45.519
things. GLD three, purveyor of
splendid malpropisms. That was great. Reagan

561
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.599
member, I should note, I
says in response to my thing about being

562
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.480
tiresome and depressing, he says or
she there are at least five of us

563
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.960
ricochets in the Alaska trip this coming
summer. Can you weasel your way into

564
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.800
being there? I'm working on it. I'm working on it. The only

565
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.480
problem is is I am also sort
of kind of sort of obliged to a

566
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.320
to do a show in England.
I think I'm booked at a theater.

567
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.599
Another story, Stephen, See best
book and movie you have read and seen

568
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:22.039
this year? I can't think of
any sold. They can't because the movies

569
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.840
they come in to go and I
don't think of them in terms of years.

570
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.679
And it may have been that the
best movie that I saw this year

571
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.639
was something that was from three or
four or five years ago. I mean,

572
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:35.519
I see a lot of as impressed
with Parasite, for example. Takes

573
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.519
me a while to get to some
things, and that's that's the problem with

574
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.840
that. And likewise, I think
the probably the best book that I read

575
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.360
that I mean, how do you
define best? Is it gonna be Thomas

576
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.760
Soule's latest? It should be could
be it's great. Or is it a

577
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:53.000
novel that I reread because I'd forgotten
how it went and I was at the

578
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.760
beach and I wanted a detective story. Or is it simply because it was

579
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:01.440
a Roman detective story that I read
at the beach earlier in Kancun that kept

580
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.639
me interested, not for its vivacious
pros, not for its spellbinding mystery,

581
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.280
but simply because I knew the characters
and liked them and wanted to spend some

582
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.440
time with them in this sort of
reimagined way of what we'd like to think

583
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.079
Rome was. It's great. You
know, Roman mysteries, there's a whole

584
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.719
big genre, and they each have
their own different approach to it. I'm

585
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.360
kind of tired of the guys I
got to go back to the well every

586
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:29.639
single time to do the whole Caesar
thing. Yeah, we know, and

587
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.679
more interested in the ones that come
along later. This series that I was

588
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:37.639
reading, which is not particularly it's
great literature, but it's a Marcus Aurelius

589
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:44.320
view. It's a very very upstanding
view of Rome. Kind of cool.

590
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.119
Mid mitht White Male, when talking
about the Vikings and the Snow and the

591
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.039
rest of it, says that that
working playing outside thing has worked well for

592
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.480
the Packers lambeau Field thirty consecutive years
of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and just three

593
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.840
Super Bowl appearances. Shut up,
shut up, go away. Uh.

594
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.679
And then they go back and they're
arguing about this, about that again,

595
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.039
and then Peter Jean, Hi,
Gene, how were you. Jeane,

596
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.360
by the way, who has been
with us for a long time, has

597
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:16.239
been on several Ricochet cruises, and
as you all know, is the well

598
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.280
there's there was there was, you
know, on a cruise, you'd see

599
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.280
Jane, and you'd see Dave,
and I missed Dave. And I used

600
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.559
to work with Dave here at the
paper, not at this building, back

601
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.239
at the old building, back at
the old building, under the old management,

602
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.320
which is so stupid that they took
him out of his extraordinary talents and

603
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.559
put him to put him to doing
some rote thing, not drawing as much

604
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.079
as he could have. Just ridiculous. All you need to know really about

605
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.320
management sometimes is that they would take
him, you know, newspaper management,

606
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.159
is that they would take him in
a talent like Dave Metheni and say why

607
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:52.000
don't you, why don't you edit
the entertainment calendar fools. Anyway, Gene

608
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.000
asks any chance of Lilac's Post of
the Week returning. I guess so let

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the powers that be decide that.
I think we still love the sounder for

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it, don't we? Yeah?
I think we do? Or did I

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make that one up? Did I? It would doesn't matter if you could

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pick what time period in the US
to live in, other than now,

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what era would that be? I
asked, because you are such a collector,

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connoists, your commentator of Americana in
architecture. I have always thought all

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my life that I would have liked
to have been born in nineteen hundred and

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live eighty nine years. I think
it'd be fantastic. You'd be a teenager

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during World War One, and you'd
so you'd be an idiot, twelve fourteen

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year old kid who was excited about
war news and following it and the rest

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of it, and it all seemed
terribly modern and terribly terrifying. You'd be

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in your twenties during the twenties,
which would be I mean, come on,

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just the jazz, the Charleston,
the Hooch, the flasks, the

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Fitzgerald. Who wouldn't You'd be in
your thirties and probably settled a bit during

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the depression, which wouldn't be that
great. But you know, it's not

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like everybody went on the breadline.
I mean, there was still a functioning

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economy. It was just crippled,
and it was a fascinating time, time

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of rapid growing sophistication in a variety
of mediums. If you look at the

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movies of the thirties compared to the
twenties, you look at the ads of

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the thirties, the magazines of the
rest compared to the twenties. We grew

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up fast in the thirties. To
be in your forties and the forties would

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be well, you know again,
following the news in your fifties and your

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fifties. That's the thing. We
think of the fifties as being, you

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know again, happy days, carefree. No, no, no, it

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was a difficult time. It was
neurotic, it was anxious. I mean,

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yeah, it had a lot going
for it. There was much more

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cultural capital and cultural solidity. But
at the same time, I mean,

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for God's sakes, imagine being somebody
who had been through the depression in World

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War two looking at juvenile delinquents,
looking at all these hoods and these thugs

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and saying, what is the matter
with you? You know what we went

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and you're and you're acting like you
know you were born in some awful,

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horrible world. Come on, sleepe
up, yeah, eat nick Losers.

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And then to endure the sixties and
the seventies and then finally in your eighties

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and you're waning years of your dotage. Live until the Berlin Wall came down

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and we won. There had to
be somebody who was eighty nine years old

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who was watching the Berlin Wall come
down and realized we won, and then

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they died. There has to be
There has to be somebody who either turned

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off the television and went to bed
and never woke up, or somebody who

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was in a nursing home and it
was not going to go gentle into that

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dark night and held his trembling hand
with the remote up at the television in

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the wall and saying, I'm not
going to turn it off. I want

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to see how this comes up.
They're tearing down the Berlin Wall. We

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won. Good, I can go
It happened to somebody. It's a nice

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note to go out, and it's
a good note to go out on.

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Here too. Thank everybody for listening
to this, and remember that you never

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see what's coming when it comes.
All the things we're worried about today are

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things that we probably won't be worried
about next year. There will be something

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else, and to gird yourself for
it, and remember that some days bad

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things happened. To state the obvious
and the banal. But then the arc

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of history, which is a term
that I hate because it doesn't exist,

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moves in such a way that you
were watching the wall come down, and

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in our lifetimes we will see the
equivalent of that in some other sense.

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We can't see it coming now,
just any more than we could see it

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coming in nineteen eighty four or eighty
two or seventy nine. But good things

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will happen because we're America, because
we are optimistic, because we are still

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free, and because we are the
last best hope of Western civilization. And

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on that cheerful note which I entirely
mean, I thank you for listening.

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I'm James Lennox. We'll be back
next week with Robin Long, probably with

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rob and Long and Peter and Robinson
to join the Ricochet Podcast, And as

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ever, I'll see you in the
comments, not at Ricochet five point zero

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because it's common, But some point
this year we'll see you in the comments

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at Ricochet five point oho, but
for now, happy New Year. Ricochet

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