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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Then
welcome back to the act Lay reviews the

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season one finale series finale. Who
knows it could be wake up? Most

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thing be fucking canned. Wouldn't that
be so funny, especially what happened in

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this episode. I'm sure Tayo's really
jazzed out one thing, and then Luke

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Silm's like, yeah, we're not
continuing to act like anymore, like tomorrow

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morning. First, Like remember before
we get intructions, Remember when they were

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wont realize they released the Justice League
on the Friday, and then the Monday

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they put the article like, yeah, we're not doing anything more, so

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don't even watch it. We fucking
hate Zach Sar. Don't watch it.

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This is the end of the road. Like it was like just wait a

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week even but it was like two
days later. But I am oh,

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I've changed my name. I am
the number one Kylo Renz fanboy, Travis

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Snell, and I'm joined by there
he is kirkle Patzer, goll Hm,

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Taylor Field. Yes, leusim got
lost to talk about tonight with the act

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alte. Uh so we're gonna just
get right into we got some other things

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to plug layer like Geek First Day
and some shows going on. Weeks coming

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up, we got Comic Con coming
up, we got Deadpool, Wolvering coming

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up, we got the end of
the Boys House, Dragons popping off,

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lots of stuff the comic the Superhero
Draft's gonna be happening soon. In the

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next two newscasts. We got dead
Poo, wol Ring predictions, concom predictions,

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so some really good stuff along some
retros dropping. So, yeah,

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July and August gonna be hot and
heavy. But was this hot heavy?

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I mean, I let kirkln Pats
to go first, so you can give

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your minor thoughts on last week,
because you know, we got lots of

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talk about tonight, So just your
mind because you were here last week.

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And then what did you think of
this? In a non spolar fashion for

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people that don't know, we go
over this in a non spolur away for

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about fifteen to twenty five minutes,
and then before if you haven't seen it,

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we'll give you a warning, take
a little lad break, and we'll

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get into it. So kirkle on
the floor, is yours to start us

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off? Where's mine? Yeah?
Last week it was fine. Last week

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I thought the episode was all right, It definitely seemed like it should have

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came earlier on in the season.
I listened to your guys' review and it

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definitely was aligned a lot with what
you guys were saying. And it just

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seemed like a weird place to have
that episode, especially the penultimate, especially

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like the week prior, for the
big chaos of what was going on in

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that episode, to just do like
a flashback sequence and then like a side

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quest essentially, and then we're just
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it seemed like a weird situated episode. He had a finger in the

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air. Yeah, because I want
to add one thing that's some myer spoilers,

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but it's not that big for this
episode, especially when the first minute

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this episode ends up like starts off
with Soul talking to me about what happened.

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It's like, why do we even
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just like that showed last week's episode
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longer. He covered every in a
minute. He covered everything we needed to

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know, and that's why I was
a just like we had to sit there

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for all fucking forty minutes for that
last week, So it made last week

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for me feel worse when he's just
like, well, this happened, and

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this happened, and then I did
this, and then I did this,

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and the Jedi filled you all.
It was everything. It was everything,

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elevator to the field. Now,
well, I didn't see how your names

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properly in our chat, so all
I saw was the message, like that

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first minute, and then underneath it
they just save Star Wars. Kirk was

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saying that first minute, they just
say. As I was watching it,

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like what That's how the gift was
about. It gives about something else which

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I'm confused on, which I'll talk
to you guys about. So it might

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not be as negative amount but interesting, Okay, yeah, but yeah,

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I thought last episode was definitely not
the strongest of the of the season by

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any means. For this week's you
know, it's a big one. It's

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the finale of the entire show,
and I felt like I was on a

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bit of a ride where the last
few episodes leading up to this, especially

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comparing to where I was in the
early parts of the season, it's been

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I don't want to say a drag, but like it's been a downward trend

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for the overall enjoyment of the show. I think it's also just because as

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we were getting closer to the end, it's like, Okay, there's no

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way this is gonna be able to
wrap up cleanly or or maybe they'll Maybe

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I was just losing hope that they'd
be introducing certain and things because of just

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the amount of runtime that was remaining
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I was starting to lose faith as
well as just I don't know. I

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think also maybe more that we were
unraveling certain characters. It's like, Okay,

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I just don't really like this character
and how they're written, and that's

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that. So yeah, I my
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the episode or sorry, as the
season's been going. As the season has

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been going on, and this episode
it started that way for me. I

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think it started really really low,
and it's just like, Okay, this

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is going to be a very lackluster
finale. I think this episode though,

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like peaked maybe at the start of
the third act of the episode for me,

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and then yeah, so I like
there is some really good stuff in

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here that I really really did like. But I think now now that the

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season's done, now that I can
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you know, as what did the
show runners say it's gonna be one complete

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story. You can watch it not
need anything more. Yeah, So with

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that being said, this is a
very very messy, complete one story May

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and Osha. I Throughout the whole
season, I've definitely liked just what's been

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going on with Osha more than May, and watching this episode, I'm just

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like, what the fuck is going
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like the by the end of it, I was just like scratching my head

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and like, man, like,
what a weird way to go with that

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character. Obviously I won't say anything
right now. I'll let you guys speak

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and then we'll go into spoilers.
But yeah, I think it's very,

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very, very messy how they handled
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There is some other things that I
think are messy, but that one's the

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biggest standout for me. That is
just this could have been so much cleaner

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if we just had maybe one character
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whole thing of what they are and
why they're connected together, Like, I

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felt like that was lackluster and not
really satisfying. For me, Yeah,

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the Jedi stuff wasn't really anything that
I really was in love with. But

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yeah, with that being said,
I still think there was some really fun

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action sequences in this. I really
really liked the action that was in this

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and uh and yeah, like although
I said, like I did like this

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episode as it was going along,
the peak maybe was like between an eight

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and nine, like like you know, like it like it never really spiked

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beyond that for me. So yeah, I'm I'm a little disappointed with what

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happened overall with this show. And
yeah, like I definitely have some questions

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for the Low Master himself Gollam Taylor
Field here, but other than that,

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Like, yeah, I must say
I'm leaving this season disappointed for what I

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thought the show might be. And
but I don't know, there's there's some

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glimmer of hope perhaps with some seeds
that were planted here trying to speak as

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cryptic as I can, but yeah, I think I'll leave it at that.

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Two things. One I didn't hear
Lore, I thought you called them

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the Lord Master. I'm like,
what the fuck religious thing is Kirkling into

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right now? So that's one.
And two is that little seed enough for

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you know, jokes aside. Let's
say we don't get the cancelation. Let's

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sa a couple weeks from now,
they say, hey, we're doing season

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two. Are you excited? And
if you are, like, what's your

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level excited? Yeah, so like
if it's interesting, because like for one

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specific storyline, I am for excitement
level eight out of ten. That's pretty

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high. I think that's like A, it's like a solid B. I

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am intriguing, I am intriguing.
I am intriguing. I'm intrigued like how

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they might go with that story.
But like, like even that be my

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favorite part of this episode, it's
still felt a little messy, and uh,

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I don't know. I don't want
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I'm gonna slip of the tongue.
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form and circle back in the spoiler
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do get that season two, like
I want to say, I'm gonna be

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really excited and hype to to go
to continue on with what we were left

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off with. But like, also, this season was very messy, and

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now that's like a cloud going in. If we get a season two,

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I don't really have any reason to
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this season is. And it's kind
of a sad thing to have for,

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you know, a show that was
it showed some promise here and there in

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my opinion, So yeah, yeah
I'll go because I'll leave the lower Master

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for himself. We gotta get the
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what'd you call him? Did you
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and yeah, happens there. So
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I think for me, the way
I would symbolize this episode or just you

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know, put in a bow if
you give me, you know, I'm

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doing my sole elevator pitches. This
to me was like the good It had

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good, bad, and ugly.
And this to me was very much like

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the whole season where it showed the
good things in the season that can be

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good and fun to watch, and
mostly that's the action, but there's some

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good stuff in there, some fun, some good character moments, and then

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the bad where it's like, oh, this just doesn't make much sense,

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and then the ugly where I hate
it, where it's like the last last

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five minutes. I'm just my eyes
are rolling out of my head. Man,

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just even down to like music choices, I'm like, none of this

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is working and this is just and
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that are good, but just I
feel like it'd be like if you were

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in a sexless marriage and then you're
like, I'm gonna leave my wife.

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I'm over this, and then she
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know what, I'm pretty happy.
And that's why I feel like this episode

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would do that and the show would
continue ulitated and like already my negative reviews,

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he's out of here. But I
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like, oh that could be exciting, but just again in this we'll get

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to it. But with these writers, this was just such a messy show.

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I still don't have it ranked last
for Star Wars. I still have

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this. I think definitely above Boa
Fette and Amando season three. I'd have

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to think about. I'd really it's
maybe it's just like a dead neck tie

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for now. And the problem is
I'll never rewatch either of them, so

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I'll never break that tie. I'll
just be eternal time. I'll flip a

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coin. Next time we rank these
things, you know, maybe I will

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put Mandler in three below because you
got Jack Black, and wow, Jack

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Black's kind of a piece of shit. Who would have thunk. It's almost

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like Trest been saying, you know, I don't know, you didn't hear

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about that the whole tenacious thing.
Maybe that's an after nine conversation, but

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he just threw his bad made under
the bus. So just do a Twitter

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search and I just you know,
I don't know, but I'm never on

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Twitter. Ex Yeah, we'll talk
another time. But yeah, that's where

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this This episode felt very much like
the season, messy, great acting at

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times, poor acting at times,
great action, action that doesn't make sense

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at times. Things I like in
Star Wars, things I don't love in

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Star Wars. It's kind of all
over the map. And unfortunately I think

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it was I was liking the first
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first half I wasn't like, oh, this is gonna save the season,

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like, oh, this is a
pretty good episode so far. I'm liking

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the pacing. Again, like I
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four and five did meet with the
first three. This really made me feel

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like last week was unnecessary with some
of the dialogue here where we just kind

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of moved on and it didn't feel
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It just felt like he's like,
I'm gonna tell you, and the

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flashback was for us, and then
when we got to the episode, he

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actually told her this situation. And
it's it's odd pacing for everything. And

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I still don't think it's a when
you're talking about agree where if this is

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how they wrap all up and it's
all okay, you can watch season X,

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Y and Z, I would not
feel fulfilled by this show. Right.

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My best example is Dexter, where, of course dex one my favorite

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shows, but if you watch season
one, there's a few things left hanging,

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but nothing where it's like I have
to know what's going on. It's

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just Dexter meets Size Truck Killer and
then he figures out that issue and then

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the next season. There's seasons later
on that get that way, even Breaking

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Bad, there's some seasons like that. But that's where once you get in

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those three to four seasons, that's
when you can have that you know,

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luxury of kind of leaving these things
and I don't know where I am excitement

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wise, because there are some big
things teason here. I think my excitement

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would come with we're doing a season
two and we have new showrunner and new

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writers. That's where my excitement would
come from, and see who the writers

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are. Of course, I think
with this team it doesn't really matter because

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I think we're just gonna get with
all these big things are showing the same

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mess that we did or that we
got here, and that that's the hard

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thing to get excited for. I
can't get excited for scenes because that's something

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I can YouTube. I can go
if I didn't watch act Light season two

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and says, oh, this is
great battle, well, I'll pull it

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up watchings min it's great. So
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a very mixed bag finale, a
mixed bag season overall. And I think

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this is definitely a big disappointment in
the Star Wars realm when even in this

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finale you see things and not the
little surprisings like just storylines, you go,

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oh, almost this would have been
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attention instead of Basle again getting fucking
ten minutes of screen time. I'm exaggerated,

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but still it's just like there's choices
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know whether it's the writers, if
it's Feloni, if it's the show runner

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at Headline either I don't know,
but whoever is, they really need to

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sit down and go, Okay,
what could we do? And I don't

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know if season two is guaranteed.
It does say season one finale, but

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that doesn't mean anything. Shows get
canceled all the time, So I hope

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for the people that like and want
the season one or there's another season,

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they get that because I always want
people to be happy, and there's enough

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in here. There's one particular storyline
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to see where that would go.
But I just think season two they really

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need to step it up. And
I think they Yeah, they didn't win

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the game here, They didn't.
They didn't win the game there. Maybe

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that's his boy for my score there. But mister Field, you're back.

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You're here. My WiFi is being
fucking wild tonight. Holy shit, in

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case you guys aren't on the YouTube
and you're listening through audio. I mean,

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I've been back and forth across the
stars. It's been quite a journey.

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Right now, you're in a cave
looking out for the Wi Fi Jesus

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Christ. So where are we still? A non spoilers again, No,

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we're done, So check this out
first thing. Yeah, Oh my goodness.

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So this episode, I think in
general, it had some things that

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some things I wanted to see and
some other things that just felt like we're

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kind of off the the written map, and then all in all, it

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just felt like it did not capitalize
on much of just what I needed answering.

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I feel like this whole season has
really been very slow at setting things

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up and finally getting to where we
are now, and it just is kind

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of it's kind of unfortunate that we're
not I don't know, and we're ending

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on such a big kind of dare
I say cliffhanger, Like there's so much

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that's still left un explained, and
that it's just gonna be shoved over into

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another maybe season or some kind of
other context that we may or may not

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get. Yeah, like I hope. So that's very unfortunate. I thought

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you were going to be coming out
of the Gates swimming swing being really positive,

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you know, so well, as
I said, like, I'm very

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like I'm over the moon on a
couple of things of this episode one thing

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actually mostly. But I do think
though that this should have been our penultimate

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episode and then the finale would have
been like big beal and ull I got

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a better pitch. This should have
been the middle of the season. In

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my yeah, been expect yeah,
I wait till spoilers, but especially how

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they pitched us the show. If
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even the first few episodes, so
I can see we're more falling giant stuff.

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But the ending of the show feels
like, oh, that's the show

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you guys talked about in twenty twenty
when you pitch what the acolyte is?

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You know, so that's you two. Oh he's gone. You shocked him

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and doing for people. In audio, he's like wide eyed in the photo

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and he just cannot believe it.
But oh man, that Wi Fi is

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tough, so like how he's always
Also I'm a sad, you know,

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I don't understand how you run on
Wi Fi. But he was saying,

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you know, he's he's usually giving
you ship for being a Wi Fi and

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he's plain about his WiFi. Now, and what's up, Taylor Field?

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Are you're not hardwired? In I
am hardwired? In, okay, the

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one you got all your WiFi and
I'm not I'm not hardwined in. I'm

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not a MacBook bro right now?
What is going on, sir? You

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know? But I feel like that
happened to we all. We all,

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Yeah, he told me upgrade of
this, I'm never never doing, so

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don't I'm continuing on boot it again. A hundred bucks off my bill.

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Oh, we'll get you a new
motive all that ship. The guy Wii

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too, I've already signed the contract. And then the guy the tech install.

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It's like, oh, you should
have gone to tell us that's way

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better for podcasting, Like, oh, fuck Christ, what were you saying

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though at the end before I we
were before you die, we were Stich,

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just somehouse. The middle season.
I think that how the show ended

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felt more like what they pitched in
twenty twenty, what the show was going

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to be, where I feel like
season two could be that. But that's

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a tough pill for me to swallow, like a whole season, like like,

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what show are we watched? Oh? The Boys, right, we've

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said that before. The Boys were
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and they can do that though,
because there are four seasons in I don't

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like this show being like, you
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season in the show we really pitched
you. It's like, well, that's

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not really what I want, and
I so that's where we were, right,

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a new era and new everything.
There are things in this finale that people

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that are not reading the books aren't
familiar with the High Republic stuff like they're

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gonna watch this be like what the
fuck is that? And what the fuck

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is this? And like whoa,
what the fuck are those? And so

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they're gonna get to the end think
I don't. I don't understand any of

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this. So it's just it's a
shame. It doesn't make any sense.

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I think it's it's a lack again
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has been so alluded and so messy. There's many highlights, and I think

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I'm absolutely on the more positive side
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the season. I think people are
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but I will not defend it on
the case of its storytelling and whatnot,

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because that's been pretty bad. And
I think the actors and actresses like some

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some are okay, others are like
I love what they're doing, They're like

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given it. They're all in some
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but it just feels like it's all
in all a mixed bag of different

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things. And considering this was announced
a long time ago, we've gone through

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like two different logo changes for this
show, and I just feel like its

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identity hasn't been really concrete, and
now it's it's paid the price. Well.

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This this finale was again, like
I said, it had some things

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I loved and some things I was
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totally agree if you with what you
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middle of the season, that would
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I don't. I'm happy to have
more content in this era, but I

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don't need this to be ending the
way did forcing us to have that second

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season that may never come. I
hate when things like that happen. I

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don't think it was wrapped up in
a bow. There's one scene, no,

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because then you get something like Predators
where they're on the planet and it's

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open ended, or you get other
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The second one where it's open ended. It's like, well, we're

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not doing another one of those,
Like these bastards just do this shit and

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they don't think about the fans.
I feel like, so, yeah,

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it's just it. It hurts,
it does hurt, it hurts. Well,

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I don't know where to start.
I feel like heay, you want to

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start in a certain place. I'm
not sure you just want to blow your

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load and go there first. I'm
not sure if you want to build up

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to that. So I'll let you
decide on that one. I'll let you

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want to blow your load. Curl
all those fingers. Those finger loads we're

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blowing right now. Sure, I
was gonna let Taylor pick, but Kirklam

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just picked for you. Taylor's attempted
me. He's got the novel right there.

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I love it. That's a crisp
looking novel too. I know,

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isn't that mint? That is meant
God? That just recently? Right?

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No, I've had this for a
while and most of my books, like

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yet brand new, I keep them
mint, very nice condition. Just don't

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let masks and get her hands on
them. But yeah, Plagis was just

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the fucking rogers. I can't even
watch my shows. So we'll get into

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what was going on. But Kime
here and uh oh shut decide they're gonna

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leave and they're gonna go find soul
maybe may whatever. We'll talk about them

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in a second. So as they're
leaving, we get a little peak of

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the cape and we see some fingers
and someone's peering out. We see a

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hood and then a little light shines
on them and it's what we would all

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presume to be dark Seris Man nowhere
but start in Star Wars, please get

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that a kill it making a voice
place. But anyway, so we see

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a shadow and it's revealed to hopefully
be done other than place. Well hopefully.

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That's debatable for me because that's where
I'm a mixed because it's cool.

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We saw two big things in the
show that have been cannon and are not.

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Maybe there's more and table tell me, but at least to me,

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two big things that are cannon and
books and everything but have not been in

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live action. One of those things
I like. One of those things I

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think is fucking stupid and we'll get
there. But we did see him.

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I think this was what we talked
about last week where Leslie Headlin says,

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oh, like, if we have
more seasons, you'll get to an explanation,

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so we'll see if we get there. I do think this is actually

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like an appropriate tease. It is
one of those things where it's like you

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for the hardcores, you better have
a well, I don't know that's a

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divide, right, because I think
some hardcores don't really like the show as

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well either, so it's tough.
I think it's a fine tease. I

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think there's more story hang ups from
like, oh, I wish there could

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be more of that, but it's
I'm a mixed bag because it's cool to

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see live. It's a master We
talk about a lot. You know,

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you guys have a lot of fan
fare because I've I had that audio book,

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so I'll probably be I've bought it
so I'll probably booon it up soon

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here. But for me, it's
again what I talk about the nonsplayers,

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where it's cool that you show me
this, but it's also oh, this

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team writing it, so it's like, am I just gonna get the messy

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stuff with this character Plagas, that
I got to the other stuff, and

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then it's gonna be like, well, I wish they held off. That's

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why I'm hoping that a switch up
happens with writers or something, because it's

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it's I don't know, like I'm
trying to think of like a good example,

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like recently, of a character that
would come in and everything like that.

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I guess because it's like a ten
year anniversary a couple weeks ago.

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It is like, I love the
Joker, but the way he was in

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the Suicide Squad, I could enjoy
that. I'm not saying Plagas is gonna

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have like dark side tattoo on his
head, but it's just like a hard

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thing like the second because it was
three days ago at the ten year anniversary,

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the second we saw a picture of
Jared Lett. I was like,

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oh man, I don't know if
I get excited for the same thing as

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Plagas. It's like, I want
to be excited. I love the idea

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that character and what it could lead
to, and we talked about like he

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could maybe be taking out kym here
and stuff. But it's like in the

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hands of these writers, are we
just gonna be mad next season? Is

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Taylor gonna be here, bitch because
they did x Y and Zra plagas like

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the way people are mad about Caddy
Mundy. Is Taylor gonna you know,

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something's gonna happen. That's why I
don't know, so most likely most likely

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for me at least. I really
like the the Easter Egg for what it

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was done in this season. You
know, I'm glad he didn't like just

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come out of that cave and just
fucked up Master Soul or something and then

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like I don't know, gets defeated
by Venestra. Then he has to go

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like his wounds, like it could
have been worse, right, like like

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it could have been a big inclusion
for like the Big finale. But I

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really love the idea of just like
no, there is like a true master

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out there, like in in the
darkness that no one really knows about other

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than I guess, like what we're
assuming Kime here is the only one that's

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really dealt with him, or do
we not even know that? We don't

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even know that, right? I
think he could be a fifty to fifty

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if he could have been an apprentice
that broke away or could just be heard

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of him, or he has no
idea at all, because I think you're

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reading the book I have referred a
couple weeks ago. I think they mentioned

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the book that play. Guess I
don't know about the Pulpit team, but

406
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,680
they know that there's other Sith users
out there right in plague is even I

407
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,160
think he had like seven people he's
looking at, So it's gonna even be

408
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,680
that stage where he might just be
looking at this guy being like, hey,

409
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,519
would this guy be worthy as a
power of two situation? Right?

410
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,519
So I really don't know. Yeah, Tenebris. Uh. When Plagus kills

411
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,039
Tenebris, Tenebris lets him know,
like, hey, there are other people,

412
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,640
like other Sith lineages out there,
but they're not like when he kills

413
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,720
them, so like while he's dying, he lets him know that something really

414
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,359
so really place kills like stabs him
and he is dying words no, no,

415
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:26,960
so how how he how he kills
them? In bullet points here a

416
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:32,559
short notes. So basically they're mining
on Valdemnik and basically they're looking for the

417
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,720
cortosis and they find a gas pocket
explodes and so the two Sith have to

418
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:38,839
flee, and so the one the
master. I think he's caught like using

419
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,359
the force holding some stuff up the
debris classing, and so Plaguea scyes his

420
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,839
opportunity and like brings the rocks down
and crushes him. And so then he

421
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,440
uh like approaches him as he's tena
versus is like choking out and bleeding out

422
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,240
and dying, and Tennibish just kind
of like commends him for doing what he

423
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:56,960
didn't think he would be able to
do and then tells him like, Okay,

424
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,839
you know you're gonna be So they're
gonna come after Yeah he said,

425
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,880
up a bitch details and basically they're
gonna come after you. Now there are

426
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,480
others, there are other dark side
users out there, but respect to Tenebris,

427
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,480
so give them the information on the
way out. You know, didn't

428
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,279
have to. So this is the
way you said. H'm like, that

429
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:12,839
can't be it, But I guess
that's it. Got that info while he's

430
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:19,799
dying. So yeah, continue Kirkling, Uh yeah, so continuing if he

431
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,680
knows Kymer you're talking about that,
Yeah, Like I I like that.

432
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,559
We don't know that right now too, Like I I I feel like I

433
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:33,240
don't know. I have some holdbacks
with Kymier in general as just a character.

434
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,599
I really like the performance at least
what the actor has been doing with

435
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,079
the character. You know, keep
shouting out those arms with you when he's

436
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,960
got like the cloak on with the
helmet. I love that look. And

437
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,599
ye like I's pretty jacked. It's
tough every time they do the show,

438
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,079
he's gonna have to be in like
great shape now because we all see these

439
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,680
arms. Well, you gotta you
gotta be read. It's a huge jacket.

440
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Every time he's like, yeah,
like pumping away, that's gonna be

441
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,880
the guy plays Kymer, you know. Nd so oh yeah, I have

442
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,440
some hesitations with the character in general, just with how he's written and kind

443
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,119
of the way that he just carries
himself. I don't know, It's it's

444
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,400
tough because on one hand, it's
it's a sith nlike one I've ever seen

445
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,960
before, and I just don't see
him as like this true powerhouse as maybe

446
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:23,640
he's supposed to be written out to
be. Who's that on the prime heer?

447
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,720
Whoa take you look like a bit
of a bitch? Signs of it?

448
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:36,480
I could kick his ass. So
yeah, Like, on one hand,

449
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:37,759
like I have those hold backs of
the character. But on the other

450
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,400
hand, it's like, Okay,
well, I also haven't seen a Sith

451
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,599
character like this before, so like
maybe this is gonna be some good storytelling

452
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,319
of one that like right now,
I don't truly believe that he's fully like

453
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,240
engulfed in the dark side, like
like like he likes to portray that to

454
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,200
Osha, but like I don't know, like he just he seems to be

455
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:06,160
attached to Osha in like a Jedi
master sort of way. And I don't

456
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,039
know, maybe I'm just maybe I'm
misunderstood and in how that dynamic should go.

457
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720
It's just it's different than what I'm
usually used to seeing. So that

458
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440
so that's where it's like, I
don't know if it's a pro orcon,

459
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:22,160
it's just it's different. So how
did I get that? Oh? Yeah,

460
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,200
with Plagas, I I would love
to get, you know, for

461
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,079
next season some sort of interaction with
those two of just kind of Plagas's perspective

462
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:38,759
on the situations that are going out
and if he is impressed that he's looking

463
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:44,599
for apprentices of his own or if
he's fucking pissed off. It's and because

464
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,720
it is deviating from like the rule
of two. It's I guess his own

465
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,880
version. But like, if this
is supposedly Plagas's apprentice, I I can't

466
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,119
imagine Plagas would be too impressed,
right, Like, usually if an apprentice

467
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,279
is doing that, it is in
secrecy. Is they're trying to build up

468
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:06,799
their strength to take on their their
master. And if Plagas is seeing this

469
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,720
here, I don't really know how
he would how he would react. So

470
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,240
a lot of a lot of questions
there, and as you mentioned, we

471
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,559
also don't know even if that is
a dynamic, like maybe he is just

472
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,319
scouting out people right now. Maybe
Plagas is looking at Osha over Chymier right

473
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,079
now, like we don't know that. So all of those questions are what

474
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,599
make it intriguing. But it Yeah, I got admit, it was fucking

475
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,359
sweet to see him in that cave
and just be like, holy fuck,

476
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,359
like we finally get a live action
Oh man, look at those fingers music

477
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,640
like a chameleon. Right, It's
like kind of like it felt like some

478
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,160
of the exical music, like not
exactly like the way they've been Yeah,

479
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240
the pimpel the cal renzme for no
reason that I'll be answered. Yeah,

480
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,000
all right, cool. I don't
know what, but yeah, I was

481
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:53,640
like, in the orchestra, the
orcra, what am I trying to say?

482
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,880
Orchestral orchestral music? Yeah, because
at first I thought when they're like,

483
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960
oh my god, is that him
just fucking moaning, like where's the

484
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,519
his other hand? But no,
he it was it was the music.

485
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,960
His hand fucking blends in those rock
picked up because they not made him another

486
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:11,839
shade of brown. Is this like, is this like like boosted brightness or

487
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,000
something? Yeah, I buved the
brightness. Okay, yeah, it kind

488
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,680
of looks like ebony maw here he
with the no nose voltemort nose. But

489
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,680
yeah, it was a sweet scene. Nonetheless, Yeah there. Oh man,

490
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,559
I was just over the moon scared
the ship at everyone in my house

491
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:42,519
like it was weird to he was
just watching, That's exactly it. Medicine

492
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:47,960
was Hans and that gifts when he's
just like looking at it. It just

493
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,960
it really caught me off guard because
the two of them were leaving and then

494
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,160
the scene just pans like to the
cave with them in the distance, and

495
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,920
it started to feel dragged on.
I was like, Okay, what are

496
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,759
they doing here? And yeah,
then you see like the fucking smiegelhand creeping

497
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,680
on the rocks, like oh oh, and yeah, then it just shows

498
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,279
plagas like oh my god, it's
fucking great. But any regular Joe Blow

499
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,119
that's watching this show, they don't
know who that is. They don't know

500
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,480
what Mune people are. Yeah,
they're they're watched this, like what the

501
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160
fuck? And I thought, okay, to put this in now. Halfway

502
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,519
through the episode, they got to
have some exposition at the end or something

503
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:26,880
to kind of give the regular fan
base a little bit of context to this,

504
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,559
and I convinced myself of that.
So I was very disappointed because that

505
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,119
didn't happen. I thought it was
just gonna be this. I didn't think

506
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:37,480
we'd get more right now. But
you don't know if it's just an island

507
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,200
inhabitant, some creepy voyeur in the
cave, like, no one's gonna know

508
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920
who this guy is, right,
And I think that's a shame. I

509
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480
think they need to add a little
context now. It's different when we get

510
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,559
to the Yoda thing. It's they're
doing the same context here, but the

511
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:53,200
Yoda is very different because anyone sees
that little guy, they know who he

512
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:56,839
is. But this guy, no
one knows who Darth Plagas is. I

513
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,759
mean even the ga that knows Star
Wars and was watched Revenge of the Sith,

514
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,559
and they, you know, they
don't know what Darth Bags looks like.

515
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,079
The only way you know is if
you've picked up this this book right

516
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,240
here, and you you gave it
a ready. I guess you know that

517
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:17,880
too. Yeah, the only way
is this book that I it's so like

518
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,559
terrible. I can't believe they put
him in. Could you not say obviously

519
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,400
way different, more successful scale?
But could you not say the same thing

520
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,839
about Thanos and Avengers one? No
one know who the fuck that guy was

521
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,119
back at Yes, but that was
an end credit scene, right, So

522
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,519
do you think this would have been
fine if they swapped as an end credit

523
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,960
and he talks too? I think
you get to learn he doesn't talk.

524
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,720
He doesn't talk. He does that, remember, he smiles, He just

525
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,359
smiles. There's like an over like
like, isn't the guys the guy's walking

526
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,160
up to him saying Loki failed all
this kind of stuff, and then the

527
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,440
guy like, yeah, that's fine. It sets up context. No no,

528
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,200
no, because and here you don't
know if this guy is and what

529
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,559
relationship he shares with Chymere, right, and that's what we were talking about,

530
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:05,519
Like, is he Chimer's master?
Is he seeing Kimer as a threat

531
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,039
witch? In the book, Plagas
sees that, like when when Venomus comes

532
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:14,440
after Plagus and Plagas learns, okay, Venomus was what he said in the

533
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,200
audiobook, he says Venomus's. It
throws the off a little bit because I'd

534
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:23,519
say venomous, but he says in
the audiobook, yeah, So he basically

535
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:29,160
he learns, okay that Tenebris had
him and then Venomus as his apprentices.

536
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,960
Now the thing is, though,
he learns that Venomus had basically done scout

537
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,680
work and found a bunch of other
potential dark Side Forest users that could be

538
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,359
either apprentices or we're just you know, doing their own things. So you

539
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,160
have some that are you know,
they're doing their own thing, and basically

540
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,799
Plagus goes out to scout them and
see what's what. And so maybe that

541
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,039
fits with with this one and tracking
out Chyme here, but we'll have to

542
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,200
see again, they don't have the
proper context of what's going on, and

543
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,759
I don't like that he's such a
big character for the die hard fans,

544
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,719
and I feel, again we don't
get that season two then we really should

545
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:12,199
have had some some sort of dialogue
and just I don't need him to talk

546
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,800
necessarily, but have like have have
sitting on have like a high pitch boye

547
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,320
and he's like, hey, where
are you going? Like he's from the

548
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,880
kid, remember that pirate lord and
at World's end on the meeting and he

549
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,719
has the guys talking for him and
then he finally talks with the high pitch

550
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719
voice. Yeah, but I think
though they should have what they should have

551
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,440
done at the end is they should
have had Osha standing up on the ridge

552
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,599
looking over the ocean and Kymier walking
into the cave. And you don't even

553
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:45,039
have to show like he's my friend. Yeah, just have Kimer say something

554
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,039
into the cave like all right,
Master, she's with us now or something

555
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:51,039
like that. But that you're assuming
that they're together, like we talked about,

556
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,280
that might not be a situation,
right, he might just be scouting.

557
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,639
He might be killing. So like
if that's in their story for season

558
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,920
two, he can't look, hey, Master, I got the way ocean

559
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,639
with us. The way he crept
around that cave makes me think that he

560
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:14,519
is. Yeah, he's he's he
is, uh saying I wouldn't go that

561
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:19,719
far, Like it's tricky, like
you're I'm with her master. So what

562
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,559
you're saying, well, yeah,
because hypothetic. I would love it if

563
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,079
that was the case. I'd love
it if Plagas was his master. But

564
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,079
I feel like the way he's creeping
around that cave kind of shows like maybe

565
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,400
he is stalking. Maybe he is
fine, because I feel like if he

566
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,920
I think he showed up when Kimier
was not there because I remember they've not

567
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,559
been there that long. We got
the flashback episode, but they landed,

568
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,760
Osha woke up, they had a
day, they had the naked swim,

569
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,159
and then she put on the helmet. They've not been there for that long,

570
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,519
So it could be realistic that while
he's gone whatever situation, whether he's

571
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,239
scouting or it was his apprentice,
he betrayed him, which I don't know

572
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,760
if we're going to go that route, because it might be weird to have

573
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,400
Venestrous be oh, like they're doing
the same storyline then right off, he's

574
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,440
an apprentice that's fallen out with two
people. There could be something there that

575
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:05,480
links them maybe, but it's that
would be weird of well, is Veinestra

576
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,599
right, Yeah? Vnestra and Chymer
had a falling out and then oh he

577
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:12,480
had another master and that all set
of falling out. You could worry that

578
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,440
the storylines might be too similar and
double each other. So that's where either

579
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,199
way, I do think he's I
don't think Kimer knows he's there. That's

580
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,360
what I'll say. I'll go with
that whenever we go. I don't think

581
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,000
it's an act of like I'm working
on getting because if it's a rule too,

582
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,760
why would he just be chilling?
Like I hope there's someone You need

583
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,400
to do this tailor. You need
to make that meme quick before someone else

584
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,760
does it. You need to make
the top image of Chymeer swimming naked,

585
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,239
and then the bottom image Plague is
out there in the cave watching. Okay,

586
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
you gotta get that out there in
the eighth there, because I just

587
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,119
love the whole day he's watching and
he's like, what the fuck is he

588
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,719
gonna naked? Like hey, I
would love to hear Plagues this whole going

589
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,760
on, like oh, I always
love to put as a cock out man.

590
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,280
But I don't think that they are
in a master prentice situation. No,

591
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,519
I would agree, and I feel
like to from the book sense and

592
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,400
all I have to basis on is
the book. I have no other proper

593
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,840
foundation here. Now, he's he's
exceptionally good at just hiding his uh self.

594
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,360
He's in the cave. He's a
master of disguise. Yeah, he'll

595
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,840
never find me in here. But
he's good as hand. His hand as

596
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,440
the same close over camouflage, his
h his ability to mask his essence in

597
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,159
the forest. I think that's what
really gives him power. Because he's out

598
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,920
talking to Jedi night and day,
right, Like he's out in the public

599
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,320
eye playing the masks. Yeah.
Yeah, he made books in the book,

600
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,159
in the book, Yeah, basically
he's the he runs the mask holdings.

601
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,599
So he's basically on the forefront talking
to Jedi and he like this is

602
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,519
where Palpatine learns to be the the
kind of politician he is. He's out

603
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,159
in front on as a Sith though. To clarify that, right, women,

604
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Al, what's that on your hold? Oh? Nothing there? But

605
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,960
okay, so he's a different job. Like he's he's out in the public,

606
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,360
but you know, he represents the
banking clan basically that's what the munes

607
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,480
are all about. As we learned
in like Attack of the Clones and whatnot.

608
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:13,639
He's got that money, he's got
he's got the money. Yeah,

609
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,639
so it's that's another thing too.
If you feel like, wouldn't they detect

610
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,199
plagas well, you could say,
okay, if Plegas is Kymer's master,

611
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,519
then Kymier is choosing to just he
knows that he's there and is accepting it,

612
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,079
or if he's not there or sorry, if he's not his master,

613
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,880
then Plegas is just masking his his
abilities, because that would make sense why

614
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Osha can't detect him either, or
May couldn't detect him either. But now

615
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,679
we also have to think, okay, what if in retrospect, Ah,

616
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,880
well, no, that doesn't make
sense because the way Kimer was talking like

617
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,480
he would always refer to the master
as the master. And then did we

618
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:52,639
ever get like May just was afraid
of Kimer in his metal like in his

619
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,039
Cortosi's armor, But the way Kimer
talks as well, it just I don't

620
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,719
know, maybe I'm overthinking and we're
looking at I don't think. Yeah,

621
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,320
I think it's just that it's the
May the May Osha Kimer thing. I

622
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,519
think the Kymer and Osha part that's
the strongest, and that's clear of what

623
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:15,000
their relationship is. Right, He's
a dark side user. She's starting to

624
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,239
tear the dark side. He's tempting
her a Nagin trainer that we've seen that

625
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,599
before and not really much in movies, like we talked about before, I

626
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,880
always have to end point, but
we've seen that one on one in video

627
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,760
games and books. Right of Okay, he's the guy like you know,

628
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,280
shaking the shiny toy. I think
the problem with May is I still like

629
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,239
she had such a weird relationship with
Kymier, where when we first met them

630
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920
it felt like they were partners.
To then seem like she was scared of

631
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
him to this episode when he shows
up, like she doesn't like at the

632
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,960
end when that yellow tree, she
doesn't even like react to Kimer, like

633
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,440
not even like a step back like
worried. It's just like, hey,

634
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:51,360
dude, what's up. Like they're
like much like May we talked about every

635
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,000
every three episodes she changed the directory
which she was going. So it's hard

636
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,000
to talk about May and Kimyer's relationship
because just like May and Osh, it's

637
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,480
all over the place, like this
episode again they're fighting to the death and

638
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:06,000
then they're running away together hold in
the hands. It's like, what,

639
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Like none of this is justified.
So I think it's hard to talk about

640
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,440
like Kimyer's relationship with May and like
a way how it would pertain to Plaguas

641
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,920
because we didn't get we didn't get
enough of it. I wish we got

642
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,639
more of that, but I think
they were so obsessed with like trying to

643
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:21,880
do a reveal with Kimier. I
wish that reveal just happened like the end

644
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,760
of episode one and then just go
again, same thing. Put everything two.

645
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,400
Episode one is a pilot and episode
five is like episode two where Chimer's

646
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,920
out there just destroying everybody. Because
I just feel we've not a waste of

647
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,119
time, but I feel like the
twins were kind of a waste of time

648
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,480
in my opinion. I guess just
the more the writing sense of it.

649
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:46,480
But before we going John throughout the
maybe plays will kill Kymer and take Osha

650
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,480
as apprentice. Maybe, but I
don't if that happens. I want if

651
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,039
the show continues more near the end
game, because I think Kimier is the

652
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:57,480
most interesting part of the show.
So for me, if you kill off

653
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,000
him, maybe Plagus could become more
interesting. But I'm just saying what we

654
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:05,639
have now the players, My interest
drops greatly if Chymeer bites it, you

655
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,280
know, in a kind of just
move, like if if he's just there

656
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,480
to be a stepping stone to us
to get to play against. I kind

657
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,039
of like Darth Maul and Phantom Menace. I don't want that. I'd like

658
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:20,239
Chymier even if it's like players does
kill him, but he survives again,

659
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,119
like a like a Dark Scion situation, you know, something like that.

660
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:30,559
So I for for Chymere, I
I don't know. I it's probably just

661
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,400
with what's been shown so far.
But I, as I was saying in

662
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,079
the spoiler free section, like because
this is such a different version of a

663
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:45,760
air Quote sith Master that I've seen
in the past, I'm intrigued just for

664
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,440
story wise reasons, but for what
breadcrumbs they laid out for him right now

665
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,559
that Okay, he's just like a
former apprentice of an Estra. She did

666
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,920
something sketchy and then that's kind of
what pushed him away. Like, I

667
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,360
just feel like that's every fall to
the dark Side story that they've done so

668
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,440
far in live action more or less
might be hyperbolizing, but it just seems

669
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,920
like like been there, done that. I don't know, it could spin

670
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,480
in a direction that is a lot
more interesting than what's been laid out,

671
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,559
But I'm a lot more intrigued in
just the perspective of the Osha character of

672
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,519
this is like her starting her dark
side journey and like we see her bleed

673
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,239
the Kyber crystal, and now what's
going to be happening going forward from that

674
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,840
point? To me, that that
is the most important part. I I

675
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,519
do like the chemistry that her and
Chimeer have. It's it's really just because

676
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:45,480
I think of the actors like so
far, like as you mentioned, like

677
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:52,679
yeah, like they really haven't interacted
much like I was, so I like

678
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,920
I like audibly gasped when like how
quickly that sequence happened of like the cliffhanger

679
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,800
of two episodes ago where she puts
on the helmet and then he just like

680
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,280
takes off the helmet and then they
just like they just go find soul and

681
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,400
like that's that. Like I thought
that was gonna be like a big existential

682
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,519
crisis moment for Osha and like him
really like maybe telling a personal story to

683
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,000
just kind of get that bond.
We didn't really have any of that dialogue,

684
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,960
and what little dialogue we had it
was very surface level and as as

685
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,719
you laid out, like when they're
at the tree at the end, like

686
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:29,440
it's almost like she doesn't even like
like she doesn't even really like acknowledge that

687
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:34,679
he's there. Obviously again, like
that is a high, but it's it.

688
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,760
It may as well not be there. It seems like you see GI

689
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:42,639
And what I hate is like I
feel like that was so mixed. You're

690
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,840
you're hitting it on the head and
that's what that's why I was saying non

691
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,880
spoils. They describe the show as
you're looking in twenty twenty point dark side

692
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,079
point of view pretty much, it
sounds like that's what's gonna be an act,

693
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,559
like you're gonna follow being paraphrasing with
the exact words they use, but

694
00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:00,920
you're gonna follow someone's descend into like
the sith madness in a way seeing that

695
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:04,239
for our arts and we're finally getting
that cool and that's again I hate the

696
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
whole setup. Season of season two
is that great? We still have another

697
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,840
side of it, which I'm like
eh, but okay, that season too.

698
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,159
But what I hate is this is
where I feel it's all over.

699
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:17,559
Why they Why are they playing inspiring
music during that tree scene with May and

700
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,480
Osha, It's like she is deciding
to go with Soul to be a Jedi.

701
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,039
Whatever you feel about Soul, many
did she fucking murdered him, She

702
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,960
choked him out, And I feel
like, unfortunately, I will say it's

703
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,880
direction or it was the actor and
the actress in this fault. I feel

704
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,679
like May had no motion that the
entire scene, like they told her just

705
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:39,400
to watch, and like, how
should I react? Just watch? Like

706
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,159
is she upset about this? Is
she happol? This is mad? Just

707
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,119
blank canvas the whole time. And
I said, when they get to that

708
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:50,920
tree, I don't feel like I
should be feeling good about this situation.

709
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:52,719
And even if it's a get because
like, oh, we're telling from the

710
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:58,079
bad guy's point of view, I
do understand that, but again it's a

711
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:01,000
bad example, right, but and
breaking bad when Walter would start to do

712
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,400
those things, you understood why he
did him, but he didn't feel good

713
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,360
and they weren't playing fucking inspiring music
when he's poisoning kids, where he's stealing

714
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,920
things like that thing where it's like, oh, like, I get,

715
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,159
you're doing a thing of you're showing
us the progression of Oh, this is

716
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:16,159
the way the character's going. But
we shouldn't feel good about this because like,

717
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:19,880
are they trying to pitch? And
this is what some people with the

718
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,360
whole older destroying Star Wars saying.
I think that was hyperbolic. But the

719
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:28,800
way that they made it seem like
Jedi were the uh, the antagonists and

720
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,239
the Scyth where the good guys was
a weird take. In this finale,

721
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,880
you can still make Osha become a
Scythe and make that choice, but establish

722
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,679
that this is not a good thing, because I would imagine like, did

723
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,519
Jeckie deserve to die? No?
Did fucking your no? And that's where

724
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,400
it's just like she is now with
the guy that did those things. I

725
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,239
get you can even get me on
soul the Oki. Don't forget about the

726
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,440
other Jed and probably random people along
the way, right, innocent people that

727
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,559
got in his waist. It's like, for me, the music choice and

728
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:04,119
editing choice and the story choice was
all over the map. Even Chymier in

729
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,400
a moment, I felt like they
were like making him feel a little less

730
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,880
like evil, which was it was
a whole odd ending. So I liked

731
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,840
in the last shot of them holding
lights there and holding hands, like I

732
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,280
think it is more of a sexual
relationship or might get to it. But

733
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,679
I thought that scene was all over
the place for as far as what they

734
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:22,920
want to make you feel in it. So no, I completely agree,

735
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,519
Like I I I was just I'm
hesitant to use baffled, but like I

736
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:35,440
kind of was when they're having this
like emotional scene where Osh's saying goodbye to

737
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
May because she's gonna follow her dreams
and go train with this person, Like

738
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,480
you could just edit Kimeier out for
Soul and it's so much more believable of

739
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,800
the Yeah, this is your destiny. This was never her fucking destiny.

740
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,880
She never looked at her mom and
said, mom, can I become a

741
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,599
Sith and just kill innocent people?
Can I do that? Yeah? And

742
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,440
amazed, like go, go,
this is you, this is your journey.

743
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
It's like, what the fuck is
happening here? It's just like not

744
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:06,039
like the visual I guess of like
her and Chimer at the end, like

745
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:08,840
looking up to the sunset holding hats, but it's all myself. This is

746
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,119
just so strange, like this should
be a Jedi perspective, I believe.

747
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,440
I think your example of the Breaking
Bad One was was fantastic because you could

748
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:23,320
have this and the same way with
different type of music and a different vibe.

749
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,760
Where Like for me, I would
fucking eat it up and I love

750
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,280
it, but like for you know, a general audience member, they could

751
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,199
still watch it and be like,
damn, that's dark, but like,

752
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,039
damn good story writing, and like, I am excited to see this story

753
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,639
go forward, and I'm excited to
follow this character even though they are dark

754
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,239
and evil. It just and they
establish that we're still gonna follow a good

755
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,119
guy Jedi next season. It's not
like I don't like that. I know

756
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,159
we'll get there. But it's not
like they just ended on let's say may

757
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,360
die just osha. I could understand
them being like, as Disney, we're

758
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,719
worried about having as Sith as the
main character. I'm just saying Sith,

759
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,079
so we're gonna make it seem not
more ten to me, it's tender to

760
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,800
me. It's like it's like a
cartoon kid version of what a syth is.

761
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,039
Like the way they end that,
but I could see some point of

762
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:14,199
view of hey, don't go so
hard on them being evil killing innocent people.

763
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Maybe get there, but spin it
in a positive way because she's our

764
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,000
only main character. Go. But
they set us up with Light Side Jedi

765
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,039
again, what May is gonna be
doing in Venestra. So it's just like

766
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,280
I imagine it will be two leads
again and there's a dark side and the

767
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,000
Light Side. So it's odd that
why they kind of like, to me,

768
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:37,119
they made this syth like very watered
down, that hole what it means

769
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,239
to be a sith, what it
becomes to be a sith, because I

770
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,800
thought the setup with her was great. With I hate the bleeding lightsabers,

771
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,719
me and Tariff talked about to death. I think it's a weird, kooky

772
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Harry too, Harry Potter, like
of your Soul's highlights air. No,

773
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,360
I don't think it's all lame stuff. That's a personal opinion. But whatever

774
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,800
is can now, well, yeah, it's not George's cannon, so it's

775
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,679
Dizzy that's cannon. Yeah, So
I don't count it for me, but

776
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,800
for Disney shure we're playing the Disney
Sandbox, right, I think that was

777
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,079
great of soul's talking. All of
a sudden, he's choking, you see,

778
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:08,119
And again I don't like her being
able to choke right away, but

779
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:12,840
I'm throwing it outside. She does
that, you can see her getting mad,

780
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,239
and to me, her emotion in
that scene did not fit the rest

781
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,559
of her actions throughout the way of
her and oh, like all that anger,

782
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,920
It's like if Anakin killed Mace Windu
and he is emotional, right,

783
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,960
but the second against Knighted, he's
killed the kids, he's going through like

784
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,039
he's angry and he's still crying,
but it just would have felt like he

785
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:31,920
did that and they went right back
to being Anakin Skywalker. So it felt

786
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,239
like they gave her this big moment
of oh she's turning and not really,

787
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,880
She's still the same character, but
now she's using a red light saber.

788
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,440
It's like, oh, well,
that's disappointing. Cool. So my counter

789
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:50,480
to that is her ask for one, don't give me her reasoning for I'm

790
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,280
basically joining Kim. Here was that
Kyri was still gonna kill his sister no

791
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,840
matter or kill her sister no matter
what. That was his plan. That's

792
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,400
why he was going I didn't say
that though, No that's what the whole

793
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,320
thing was. Like. He was
following her to get to May because that

794
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,320
was his failed apprentice, right,
that was that was his target, and

795
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,480
so he wanted to kill her.
And that's why she's like, if you

796
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:12,840
let her live, al, I'll
let you train me. And that's that

797
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,159
was the deal that said. So
I was, okay, I'll wipe her

798
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,039
memory and there you go. Yeah, I can be with you on that

799
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,239
one. We didn't. I didn't
complain about that, but I can be

800
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,360
with you there. Well, you're
complaining about the theme, right, the

801
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,360
music that she had trying to justify
her actions. I guess, well,

802
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,760
yeah, but but I don't killing
But yeah, why is it like a

803
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:34,159
like up, like really inspiring music
for someone turning into a sieth. Well,

804
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,480
the moment that they're at the tree, I think was supposed to be

805
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,440
lighthearted and like but the second Kymer
walks up, that should shift. It

806
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,360
should not be that music, should
imagine? Should I When Kylern's trying to

807
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,679
get ray and use that music there, it would be completely a different scene

808
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,599
because it would paint Kyla Rent as
the good guy, which I don't think

809
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,599
Kimer is the good guy here.
I don't think so, even if he's

810
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,760
a fair character, he should not
be the good guy. No, he

811
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,800
shouldn't be, not after the things
he's done. And it's it's interesting,

812
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,599
Well even they're trying to make May
the good guy, and May after what

813
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:06,840
she's done, She's killed three two
Jedi and gotten a bunch of others killed

814
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,000
because of her actions. But when
you see, uh, let's say,

815
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,960
with Kaimer, he's he is kind
of like a conflicted character. But I

816
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:22,159
mean, even when you look at
how the Syth operate and they're so charismatic

817
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,000
and they're so like they pull you
in, they draw you in with how

818
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,320
friendly they can be and they talk. But even when after she agrees to

819
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,400
be his apprentice and he goes up
and holds her hand, like there's something

820
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,199
there that makes him different. Like
I'm just I'm trying to figure that out

821
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,360
because I think it seems out of
place from what we've seen before. Well,

822
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,079
do you not think this is what
we would have got with Kylo and

823
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:46,239
Ray though if Ray joined him?
Oh probably. I was always obsessed with

824
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,559
like take my hand Ray, right, So I feel like this is and

825
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,320
I'm always down for that. I
feel like the writers of the show liked

826
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,760
that idea, and when well,
what if we can do it? Also,

827
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,679
we can't do it with a big
character like Ray because that's a Skywalker

828
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,400
and you know, really a pulp
team. So I feel like that's they're

829
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:07,880
hitting on a a because I could
believe that's like a it's a Sith Act

830
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,519
kind of way, right, if
you grow emotion or even love somebody,

831
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:14,360
or even if you're like just kind
of you know, fucking somebody, depends

832
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,440
on what shit I asked. I
wouldn't say it's a sad thing. Okay,

833
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,079
it's not a Gedi act, That's
what I'll say. No, yeah,

834
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:22,960
it's it's it's not a Jed act
either. Yeah. But even though

835
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,800
I'm not saying, the second you
get sex, you're just like, oh,

836
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,199
but the way Kimier the way Kimer
responded at the beginning to write,

837
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,760
when Osha uh, she was having
her her blackout inside the helmet and Kimer

838
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,840
just like panicked and when charged at
her was trying to use the force,

839
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,840
which I actually liked the scene because
then he was going through some crazy shit

840
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,559
and he was trying to like force
like bring her back, which is pretty

841
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:51,280
cool. But that seems like a, it's very, very different. Where

842
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,199
he asked, he had the same
question directed towards May, and May as

843
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,039
he said, just was like,
yeah, I'll join you without even a

844
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:00,559
second thought. I feel like the
difference between these two relationships as May was

845
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:06,239
recruited with him being in Sith helmet
mode and Osha is recruited with him being

846
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,800
yeah naked, right yeah. And
also Osha has learned the live soul too,

847
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,239
right, so she has that powering
her as well. Where May did

848
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:19,280
know, well, I guess May
did know that, which doesn't explain why

849
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,519
May, in the middle of the
season decides she was gonna turn herself in

850
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:25,239
and not. And I thought they
were gonna It's so weird because I thought

851
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,840
they were gonna do the whole They
literally ask, Hey, May, what

852
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,280
are you gonna do with Soul.
Well, I'm gonna take him back.

853
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,559
He's gonna explain, you know,
actually, let's take an adbreak because we're

854
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:39,119
going on another tangent. Let's take
another ad break. Yeah, all right,

855
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:43,159
so we are back. So he's
like, hey, Soul, you

856
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,440
did bad stuff. I'm gonna take
you back. I want you to pay

857
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,760
for your crimes. I want the
giant council hereabouts everybody. We're gonna know,

858
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,639
people are gonna know the Jedi.
They make some mistakes and the doing

859
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,760
some fucked up stuff, right,
and then Osha is the other route,

860
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,960
right, I'm just gonna force show
him, kill him may as usual,

861
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,239
no objections, no objection to this, doesn't care now, like oh,

862
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:07,039
I want to make it like why
even I got I see super bad a

863
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:08,760
super bad my explaining about Jackckie,
which I'll get there too. It's just

864
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,159
a similar row of why even make
her do this speech in the middle of

865
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:16,119
the scene if you're just gonna kill
Soul and she's not gonna be opposed or

866
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:20,639
feel anything about it. So I
thought they were going with, oh she's

867
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,519
again. May she just fucking changes
on a dime, But she is gonna

868
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:27,039
be mad her sister like, no, he should have. He was our

869
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,039
ticket to show people the Jedi fucked
up and look what they did to our

870
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,480
family. And you just took him
away, And I thought that's gonna be

871
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:37,599
a switch, But no, she
kills Soul and then they just run away.

872
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,679
I laugh. At one point when
the Jedi run it's a weird kind

873
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:43,599
of time here just puts on his
helmet and he's just gone from the scene.

874
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:45,360
We didn't see him run or anything. He's just like he's just he's

875
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:52,639
just he's just left. It's just
like you. And he's like where he's

876
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,400
going. So again, May,
it's just like they this character is.

877
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,199
I will put it against any other
mainstream Star Wars character, like one of

878
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:04,360
those poorly written all over because why
why why even make her say that?

879
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,199
I don't understand it. I can't
understand. I I completely agree with you.

880
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,880
I I thought it was gonna lead
to some confrontation between May and Osha.

881
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,280
It's like, oh, man,
like we like we did it,

882
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,159
we made it at the end of
the road. Here they're totally switching positions

883
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,480
and and OSHA's or sir h yeah, May is gonna stop Osha from doing

884
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:30,480
this act and that is going to
I think push them away or maybe like

885
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:36,840
redeem May bring her back. I
I still thought there's no way Master Soul

886
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,000
was making it through the season,
though I'm not pretty sure he was doomed.

887
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:43,920
And they on them, those bastards, I know, dude, slimy

888
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,760
little Jedi, like fuck those bastards. But uh yeah, and then and

889
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,079
then Osha is just like yeah,
I'm just gonna force choke you, and

890
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:54,159
like May like maybe I'm maybe I'm
like just picturing things in my mind.

891
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:58,679
But like I swear May is like
smiling too, as OSHA's just fucking You've

892
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,800
choking this guy out and who she
was wanted to take in. Yeah,

893
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,920
I I'm kind of with Travis too
on like her just for choking him.

894
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,519
I like I get it, the
anger is just doing it and like maybe

895
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:14,400
she can't fully control it. But
like Master Soul is like he's a master

896
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,400
as well, Like I don't know, I was like he was he was

897
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,400
just ready to take it right,
yeah, And I think that's what allows

898
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,159
me to kind of look past that. But at the same time, she

899
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,440
was so weird where like his last
words are like it's okay, like like

900
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,159
some hope, like don't worry,
I forgive you. But like again,

901
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,519
it's like it's not like she's like
it's not like she's like turning from this

902
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,960
moment like wow, he forgives me, Like she's ready to just go to

903
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,519
the dark side and just like fuck
he's Jedi. And yeah, I thought

904
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,519
all of that was very strange,
and it was on part it was on

905
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:51,000
part for how messy, especially the
May stuff is, but just like the

906
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:54,000
season in general. But no,
it was it was weird. They It's

907
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,840
like they were they were trying their
best versus to make it feel like a

908
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,000
villain would say it's okay and then
you kill him. But it's like,

909
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:02,920
again, what happened with Soul,
Like other than the child, it was

910
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,440
still like he made a mistake.
It's not like then. I wish they

911
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,840
would want harder and he did,
like really kill them like you a big,

912
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,920
bad way, but he didn't.
So now, I again, as

913
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,199
I said earlier, I was expecting
Plegas to pop up at some point again

914
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:21,719
in this episode. So when we
see the ship fly over and so it

915
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,880
was like that here for you,
and uh, Kymer is like no,

916
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,320
they're actually here for you or whatever. And I'm thinking, man, this

917
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:34,639
is gonna be Plaguas. And so
when everyone all the Nights of Ren and

918
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:37,000
then we're getting twenty Jedi, We're
just get a big fucking battle. It's

919
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:43,480
red. He was just blaring at
like a hundred selling the prologue of fellowship

920
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:46,519
just like that of a battle.
Yeah, so young and he's there.

921
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,840
You have Kymer, May and Oshaw
staying around soul, and they're all kind

922
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,639
of looking at each other, and
the force choke like his soul starts choking

923
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,599
out, and Kymer is looking like
kind of confused at it too. I'm

924
00:57:55,599 --> 00:58:00,320
thinking, oh, man, okay, uh, is this plagus like it's

925
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,480
gonna walk out of the shadows here? Just forced choking soul, which in

926
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:07,960
retrospect it would make no fucking sense
on his ear just getting involved. But

927
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,199
I would have loved that. I
had a different Both times. I was

928
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:15,840
psyched out because I thought when we
saw the hand the first time in the

929
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,639
cave, I thought it was gonna
be the Zabrick mom because we still never

930
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,719
found what happened to her, right, so I thought, and I'm happy,

931
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,480
I'm not surey to have places.
I really don't need that character bag.

932
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,239
And then I thought she was I
thought she was one choking him again

933
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,880
there, that she was hiding because
why I shared that gift of you,

934
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,719
I shared a gift of a guy
throwing his chair like across the room.

935
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,440
I at first thought that they were
doing what you would pitch weeks ago too,

936
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,480
that when Kimier's eyes went black,
I thought they were gonna reveal the

937
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:45,440
moms when controlling the whole time,
and I was like, fuck, man,

938
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,840
if you do this this like this, I will put it below.

939
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,559
Boba Fett don't like because I like, do not do Winter Soldier on the

940
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:55,960
most interesting character. I still I'm
guessing that's just he was tapping into some

941
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,199
But why would he do that again? Because that looked dentical to the witches.

942
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,400
I thought it was actually like like
a I took it as it was

943
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,800
Osha because she started to go on
loosey goosey, and when he was trying

944
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,519
to tamper into it, then Osha
was fucking with his head because he was

945
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:17,119
changing into a different realm which looked
like brand Week. Yeah that's exactly.

946
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:23,079
Yeah, that's exactly I saw him
to wake up every night, man fucking

947
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:27,480
Torments want to go to course On
start this whole fucking thing. Soul is

948
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:31,320
now a criminal because Torman fucking missed
his toilet at home. The guy,

949
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:36,800
he's a Jedi. Their job is
to go explore the galaxy. You a

950
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,280
young Jedi. He wants glory.
Though he wants glory, he doesn't he

951
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,960
want to just go to course On. Where's the glory there? But even

952
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,760
then he's talking No, he's talking
to his other compatriots like he wants to

953
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,480
do something important as a Jedi and
he feels like this isn't important. Somebody,

954
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,000
man, I can't evenrub on ol
because you guys are all around.

955
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,639
I just want to get right.
Just the hot was waiting for me,

956
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,159
so I I I al just want
to touch upon the lightsaber bleeding. I

957
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,440
think it was really cool to see
that on screen. It's it was an

958
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:14,559
interesting kind of thing when they introduced
it, and I didn't know how I

959
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,840
felt about it. I just assumed. I can't remember how Lord Lucas had

960
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,519
it in Legends. It's just you
go and just find crystals. Oh yeah,

961
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:23,159
No, it was just you just
go and find it, like it's

962
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:30,559
simple. There's like artificial kyber crystals
initially, like like they were made as

963
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:35,199
opposed like natural ones. Unless I
don't know, maybe that's another legend story

964
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,960
or something. Maybe I have no
idea legends within legends, like I feel

965
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,519
like that was legends, And then
Disney brought up this thing which every time

966
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:46,880
I hear about bleeding a crystal,
you know, are you fucking kidding me?

967
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:52,679
Mos hokey lame shit? Ever in
mind, there there thing they're mo

968
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:57,360
o with it. If case the
listeners aren't familiar is that crystals are basically

969
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,320
through the force. They're they're living. They're able to tap into that as

970
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:07,039
a Jedi. And so when you
are fucking pissed and angry and just letting

971
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:10,679
out all your hatred, you're bleeding
a Kaymer crystal. And so that's why

972
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:16,480
it turns red. I fucking hate
because Osha in this moment one moment killing

973
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:21,079
soul and then having hugs and I'm
gonna go fuck this crimer guy whatever her

974
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,239
instantly, which is cool. It's
a cool shot, like the shot that

975
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,039
the crystal turning to me not liking
it instantly turns red. Why does Anakin

976
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,880
Skywalker's lights they were not turning all
once he fucking kills Mace Window, all

977
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,760
those Jedi, all those fucking kids
the second he chokes padme. That's why

978
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,079
there's flaws with us, And it's
fucking stupid. I will stay by all

979
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:45,920
the time. Anakin's lightstair should be
red as the Devil's dick after Revenge just

980
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,199
says, but it is blue to
the very end that fucking movie. God

981
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,800
damn, we talked. It's so
stupid. He doesn't make it bleed right,

982
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,280
He isn't like there was a moment
here where get out of it.

983
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,760
She didn't mean to She's like bleaed
please, like she didn't know what that

984
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:07,360
fucking means. Said in a MILLENNIU, this is Caddy Monday, I mean,

985
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,440
and the in the long run,
you can't just have Obi Wan like

986
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:14,880
Luke, this is your father's lightsaber
turns on to Red Blade. That sends

987
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:21,079
some mixed messages. Oh never mind, never mind. Yeah, but that's

988
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:24,000
why again I tell you, I
don't like when they fuck with Georgia's ship.

989
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:27,760
You know, George has some bad
ship that that's a big because there's

990
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,760
nothing to explain when Anakin's Lightsaber it
should be super Red and Revenge of Sith.

991
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,199
It makes no sense, how I
agree and retrospect it. It should

992
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:38,800
have been when she's just mad and
it's fucked you know. Yeah, that's

993
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,920
that's the issue when you add new
things, right, especially in a in

994
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,719
a prequel type setting, right like
this is based I guess it's not a

995
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:51,719
direct prequel to those those series,
but like still this is based beforehand,

996
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:58,840
so yeah, like it just doesn't
line up there, And and then it

997
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,480
says like Vader bled a kyber crystal
to get like his actuals like Savor.

998
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:07,119
It's like, I'm sure what he
did at the Jedi was like a million

999
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,159
times more evil than what the fuck
he did there, And as you laid

1000
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:13,239
on earlier, Trevi's like it was
pure hate, like that's why he did

1001
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,440
those things and anger. I guess
he choked his pregnant wife. He choke

1002
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:20,800
his pregnant wife, he killed her. He killed his wife, And that's

1003
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,920
where dog should have turned red in
that moment. Yeah, And that's where

1004
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,159
I don't know if I still liked
it, but that's something they should have

1005
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:30,280
done the sequels where whether it's Kyler
ren Snoke that there's some Jedi or some

1006
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,360
force Usic got so mad they changed
it, and it's like, oh,

1007
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,119
that's something we haven't seen before,
right, But then when you start to

1008
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,079
think about the stuff we' go on
the past, it just it doesn't track

1009
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:42,239
here. And that's why that's always
been my problem with the Bleeding and plus,

1010
01:03:42,239 --> 01:03:44,920
like I said, I think it
just it's too similar to Harry Potter

1011
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,440
for me. I like the more
scientific route with the lightsabers. They got

1012
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:51,800
enough force within them, the Jedi
and sid that all these things they can

1013
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,639
do with their powers. I like
the fact that this inanimate object is like

1014
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,320
turning into something. It's just not
not my boat. Baby. Here the

1015
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,760
best explanation I can find, No, uh no, it's a ritual.

1016
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:09,519
Basically, you have to be intentionally
like doing it to your lab if you're

1017
01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:12,639
just using if you're just well,
she was intentionally like pouring her rage,

1018
01:04:12,679 --> 01:04:17,280
and like the way she's seeing like
using her saber and she's getting angry,

1019
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,480
and the chyder Crystal's picking it up, and the sense where if you just

1020
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:26,440
use your web lightsaber to kill people, it's not gonna be bleeding. It's

1021
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:29,480
kind of like Marchion Roe using his
saber to kill people. It's not gonna

1022
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,320
turn red because he's yeah, but
he's just using it to kill yeah,

1023
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,360
because he's like, but Martian Rose
doesn't have the force. Well, we

1024
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,679
don't know, yeah, he doesn't
have the four he's pulling out high Republican.

1025
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,559
That also doesn't make sense, Kirkling, because it's a force non force

1026
01:04:42,679 --> 01:04:45,760
user that just uses lightsaber as a
Jedi. It doesn't make sense. It's

1027
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,119
stupid. It's a plot hole.
They should never done it. Super Mike

1028
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,360
says, Yeah, I guess fuck
Jeckie. Rh huh. Why even they're

1029
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,119
plannning a seat with Ocean and having
her connection with Osha just gonna immediately team

1030
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:58,280
out with her murder right after she
died, such a ment and that's the

1031
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,840
thing this is within I'll give them
the benefit out. Maybe forty eight hours.

1032
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,760
I think it's twenty four because they
left that thing right because what it

1033
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,960
was she made as the swap cuts
her hair, OSHA's knocked out, Kimer

1034
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:15,599
kidnaps her, she wakes up the
next day, and even when they left

1035
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,320
this plan on this episode, it
was still daytime, right, so you

1036
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:23,960
could argue that it hasn't even been
twenty four hours since he has fucking myrtalized

1037
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,760
Jackie and they've they're playing this music
of like this is like this is your

1038
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,320
destiny to kill people like Jackie.
So yeah, it doesn't really make much

1039
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:38,480
sense to me. We'll get into
the May thing of John says, I

1040
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,480
don't think May will become lights.
I think Vanessa's just using her. I

1041
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:45,519
disagree because I have a theory.
But yeah, the Jackie thing, Yeah,

1042
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:48,320
it's another weird thing again the show. Either they need to take stuff

1043
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,239
out of it, or they need
to go to Luke's film and say,

1044
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:54,039
hey, we need another half an
hour to flesh out this and this and

1045
01:05:54,079 --> 01:06:00,360
this. But so I did some
digging in the synthetic red kyber cre soul

1046
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:04,519
that was like a legend's story.
So when the canon version, I guess,

1047
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:10,719
is this new bleeding type thing?
And I don't know. I like,

1048
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:15,920
I don't know what version I prefer. I don't like the continuity ver

1049
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,079
like what you know what we were
just talking about of like why didn't happen

1050
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:21,840
with Anakin. I did like the
scene overall. I thought like visually it

1051
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:28,079
was really cool of just again like
she is just pure, like pure using

1052
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,199
the force for hatred and like tapping
in the dark side there, and especially

1053
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,159
that it is such a personal thing
when she's like finding out that this guy

1054
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:41,280
killed her mom. Like I did
like the whole circle event then that's why

1055
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,519
it led, especially like his specific
kyber crystal that he like, that's the

1056
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,679
crystal that he grabbed to make his
own lightsaber, right, So like I

1057
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:58,480
did like all the ties there.
I feel like in the I don't know,

1058
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:00,960
Like I I think I need to
stew on an overall on my overall

1059
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:11,480
feeling of synthetic versus like the bleeding
method. I feel like for the synthetic

1060
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:15,880
thing, I feel like it's it
doesn't really make sense when you think of

1061
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,239
like every dark side or like Sith
user, like having read like I feel

1062
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:21,599
like there'd just be one person.
It's like I don't want to read one,

1063
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:26,239
like I want to fucking I want
to pink one. I guess the

1064
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,480
context right because to me, if
it's like the rule of too, that's

1065
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,800
where I feel like I buy because
it's like a tradition, right, it's

1066
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,880
like a religious thing. Where for
the bleeding, no, just get the

1067
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,280
bleeding out here. Yeah, just
the color just like the red, right.

1068
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:41,239
I think it's tougher when it's like, yeah, why the knights ren

1069
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,039
have red? But then you can
just kind of I go, well,

1070
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,119
his grandfather had red, so that's
why he would want that tribute, right,

1071
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:47,880
Like to me, you'd have to
go this far back, which I

1072
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:53,119
would have loved Star Wars force a
Licia force Leshia like chimer pull up like

1073
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:56,079
a black lightsaber, you know.
Like that's where I think if you're again,

1074
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:57,679
we don't know if he's a Sith
or not, but I think if

1075
01:07:57,679 --> 01:07:59,639
you're Sith, I'm kind of fine, but I agree with you, like,

1076
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:01,480
why if you're just using the dark
side, why would you feel the

1077
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:04,320
need to wear use a red one? But to me, it's just so

1078
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:09,599
far all the ones we've met are
Sith or Sith based right or inspired by

1079
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:13,920
Sith, So I would boy like
even in Questor or in Questors inquisitors,

1080
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,560
they work for the Syth, right, So, oh no, what's he

1081
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,159
showing us? I got this?
I got Travis? Do you remember this

1082
01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:23,640
scene? Travis? Is that yeah? From Star Wars Cannon? What are

1083
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,039
you gonna pull off? Here?
Dak and Garret? Remember when he see

1084
01:08:26,119 --> 01:08:29,000
he's doing it's like a ritual.
He's freaking out. And as he's freaking

1085
01:08:29,079 --> 01:08:31,840
out, just like Osha was,
he's turning his yellow crystal red. Right,

1086
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:34,880
yeah, and I can didn't have
time to do this though, right,

1087
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:38,880
So I think no with Oshan,
I would give it to you if

1088
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,000
Oshan out, But she's literally just
holding it, and she has no cognate

1089
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:45,359
sense of what's going on. There's
no way you can tell me that she

1090
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,439
is actively thinking I'm turning this lights
here turn There's no way she's just thinking

1091
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,039
about soul in that moment, So
that does not track there at all.

1092
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:55,000
She did not pull it out of
her lightsaber and play around them put it

1093
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:58,119
back. They haven't seen her literally
holding on to it. You're stretching like

1094
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,439
the show was stretching, and you
know it. That's not the same.

1095
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,880
You're like, look at this clip, that's the same, and it's not.

1096
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:09,960
It's a guy like performing surgery in
his lightsaber. I think you're calling

1097
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,520
tweach his own, tweach his own
No, no, no, no,

1098
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,560
he pulled How is that seen the
same as oh SHA's when through the lightsaber

1099
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,800
the lightsaber cracked open, and they
emphasized it by showing the Kiber crystal now

1100
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:27,399
showing out of the saber, saying, so you think she saw that and

1101
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,439
she went, I'm going to turn
this lightsaber. I'm gonna bleaed it.

1102
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,039
That's what you think. Attention,
not even not even that, Like with

1103
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:35,800
Dag and Garrett, you don't even
get that intention either. He's a thing

1104
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,520
out and he's like forceholes. He's
playing with it and he's getting mad.

1105
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,520
He's getting mad. This is terror. This is terrible reasoning again for everything.

1106
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,800
So May, yeah, we talked
about May. We'll get the soul

1107
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:55,920
and Thenestra two in a second.
But May so they they bowed my wife

1108
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,640
or mine, and I love that
kind of he is like I think I

1109
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,359
could do it took him two seconds, Like he wasn't that like for something.

1110
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:06,359
He was like, yeah, just
like that was like Obi Wan,

1111
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,119
like with the stormtrooper, who's like
a simple minded person, right like this

1112
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:16,079
is like May, like May is
a lot more mentally there than just a

1113
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:21,319
clone Stormtrooper. And yeah, like
I couldn't really look past that. I

1114
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:25,199
was like, are you fucking kidding
me? It was just that and and

1115
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:28,800
like like that was his plan and
then all these Jedi are like bum rushing

1116
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,239
them, and I'm like, there's
no way he's actually gonna do it this

1117
01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:33,680
fast. Like he's gonna have to
take her to like some fucking you know,

1118
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:38,840
like just his cave. I guess
where he has some like things to

1119
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,319
like really focus on this ritual.
Just just a little finger wave and that

1120
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:48,560
was that and yeah, fuck off
off Wa And to me, it was

1121
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,680
such like an easy way out because
what I what I'll disagree with Jon,

1122
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,720
you said that I don't think May
will become light side. I think Vanestra

1123
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,079
is using her yes, but I
think the reason she will be is because

1124
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:02,359
I wish they didn't do it this
way. But I think they're doing Darth

1125
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,359
Reven with her in a sense where
she's gonna train, she has no idea

1126
01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:11,039
that she killed these Jedi and then
big I'm not saying she's becomeing Darth Revin,

1127
01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:14,359
but that same storyline. Right,
if you start good, you have

1128
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,840
very little memory and then boom,
stuff pops up. But then as it

1129
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,159
depends how you play the game,
right, but if you play the game,

1130
01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:23,920
the light side is yes, I
used to be a Sith, but

1131
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,760
I've seen my ways. Even if
it took amnesia, I've seen my ways.

1132
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,239
I can't go back to doing that. So to me, that was

1133
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:32,359
a super easy and lame way to
do it. Too. I thought,

1134
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,680
I think that they could not find
a good They were not strong enough writers

1135
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,119
to get May back on just fully
the good side. So what do they

1136
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:43,880
do? They went with the soap
opera. Well, let's just wipe her

1137
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,039
mind because now next season, of
course she could be good because this is

1138
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:49,199
all she knows. Right. So, and I like the Revn storyline,

1139
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:53,720
but I loved I always wish we
got in a sense that we met a

1140
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,840
character from the start that didn't know
that, and we learned that with them,

1141
01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:00,640
it's it's not gonna be exciting for
me, like for made to learn

1142
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,840
these memories. And I was like, we already know. It's like Soul

1143
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:05,399
telling me what happened last episode.
It's like I just saw this. So

1144
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,760
for me, I think that's what
they're doing. She will be light side,

1145
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:13,119
and she'll choose to be light side
despite of her dark side maybe you

1146
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:16,159
know past or actions and yeah,
I wish because they did say ahead and

1147
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,880
I'm like, I'm a fan of
Nights Oll Republic, so second that happened,

1148
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,119
I was like, oh, this
is this is Nights of Old Republic

1149
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:25,159
one on one, and I think
they're doing that and much like plagueas for

1150
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:28,319
me, that's like a eh,
you guys, for me, don't deserve

1151
01:12:28,359 --> 01:12:30,399
the right to do this storyline.
Yet maybe I'm wrong. Maybe season two

1152
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,560
they kill it and they prove me
wrong. But again we're already off on

1153
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:38,920
a bad foot where it's if they've
revealed the trick to us, like that's

1154
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,000
what I think, and then ah, yeah, I just don't know what

1155
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:45,520
other exciting routes could be out of
that and that's who will fall. I

1156
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,560
guess it's her and Vernestra, who
I'm not. I don't. Vanessa just

1157
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,399
doesn't do it for me, acting
wise, writing wise, it's just it's

1158
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:56,880
not working unfortunately for me. I'm
there with you with Finestra. Can you

1159
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,079
imagine if the show was completely different
and we're just following like mayor Osha,

1160
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:05,239
we just think it's the one character, and like these murders happen or something's

1161
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:09,960
going on, and she's starting to
have these like psychotic type moments of like

1162
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,239
I don't know what's going on because
we are picking up the show from like

1163
01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:15,439
in amnesia type character, and then
she's like seeing herself do these things,

1164
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,560
and then it's revealed that like there's
another version of her that could be that

1165
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:25,039
could be crazy to have those moments, what could have been right? But

1166
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,640
yeah, no, I I don't
trust them to do that story, especially

1167
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:31,880
that it is so near and dear
to like all of our hearts, Like

1168
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,840
we love that story. We love
the character of Revin and the side characters

1169
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:44,039
that are introduced on that adventure,
and I think that story is really intrigued,

1170
01:13:44,079 --> 01:13:48,319
like especially the Revin amnesia story,
Like it's so intriguing without it even

1171
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:51,039
being a video game, and like
going through that experience as a player,

1172
01:13:51,119 --> 01:13:57,359
Like, it's just a really fascinating
type concept for what we've seen already with

1173
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,319
Star Wars. And it's it's complex
as well, right of a character that

1174
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:08,159
maybe was a line on certain avenue
and then switched or maybe didn't. I

1175
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:13,119
guess it depends on the play through, but it's complex in a sense of

1176
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:18,159
I don't trust this team to do
anything basic, let alone, let alone

1177
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:24,560
complex. Yeah, And like that
may sound harsh, especially like I don't

1178
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,760
think I'm going to fail this show, Like it is very messy, but

1179
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,359
I just I want them to keep
it kind of basic for for where we're

1180
01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:34,479
leaving off right now. I don't
want them to over complicate it. Just

1181
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:43,600
have Kimeer and Osha, and I
imagine they would do some sort of yeah,

1182
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,600
like some sort of time skip.
I think that would be for the

1183
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:50,359
next season of not like a big
one, but definitely She's gotten a random

1184
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:55,880
mess. You mean Gon and Obi
Wan and everything. He's just dead,

1185
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,520
just died. In between season one
and seasons they jumped everything. We just

1186
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,159
jumped to Plagas and uh uh Palpatine, like they don't even show anything that

1187
01:15:03,159 --> 01:15:05,800
went down, Like, yeah,
I killed those guys. Wasn't that crazy?

1188
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,960
Yeah? It was weird. Let
me tell you about the time I

1189
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,319
saw these two when I was lurking
in the case. Yeah, I saw

1190
01:15:12,359 --> 01:15:15,520
a bleeder lights there. I could
believe it bleeding the lights everywhere. Oh

1191
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,439
there, yeah, there you go. There's a nice Yeah, that's great.

1192
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:25,760
Plagas watching kim here just stripped down. Man, that's great. I'll

1193
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,960
put that on. I'll use send
that to me, I'll use that for

1194
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,279
the review. Well I can't.
I don't swell for people. Bring that

1195
01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:36,119
imagship again more time. So Venestra, I'm assuming is the one that fucking

1196
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:40,600
whipped them, Yes, and then
that's like a that's like a Pirates of

1197
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:48,560
the Caribbean thing. Ten lashings.
Yeah, Plegas has caught his back,

1198
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:57,920
my back, scratch, taking them
from behind and like scratch me, scratch

1199
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,840
me, the big pain taller guy. And wouldn't that wouldn't that have be

1200
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,680
something isn't in there? For the
four she's just jealous of fucking Osha.

1201
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,479
He's like, that's my man,
that's a story I've never seen before.

1202
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,800
Uh tay, what do you think
is gonna be happening with May next year.

1203
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,039
Do you think we're getting there if
we get a season two, do

1204
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:23,840
you think we're gonna begin the the
rev and Esque storyline. I think so,

1205
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:29,399
I really really do. Uh I
I think I wish that Vernestra was

1206
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,680
being handled a little bit better as
a character, because there again, like

1207
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,119
they're they touched upon her a little
bit in the Higher Public books that you

1208
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:40,239
and I have read, and I
totally forgot that she's Stellin's apprentice, former

1209
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:45,119
apprentice, and also to Castellan was
like best friends and Avar Chris uh Sell

1210
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:48,199
and Gios I think is his full
name, So he was friends with Avar

1211
01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:53,199
Chris and who's alzar Man. Yeah, so they were like the trio of

1212
01:16:53,239 --> 01:16:58,760
best Ride right. Yes. So
we also learned too that like Vernestra had

1213
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,279
a huge hand and in the Nye
Hill stuff too, she was trapped in

1214
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:04,119
the occlusion zone and she gets out
of there and all that kind of stuff.

1215
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:08,720
So there's a lot with this character
that I wish was done a little

1216
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,199
bit better. But she's not even
a member of the High Council. And

1217
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:15,760
this show was weird in its writing
because it seems to kind of keep the

1218
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,119
High Council is like these deities where
okay, you have I know I'm sidetracking

1219
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:21,880
from May a little bit, but
I'll get back to her. There.

1220
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:27,960
So you have the Chancellor, which
is very cool to see the political side

1221
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,960
of this. The Chancellor and a
bunch of senator doing an inquiry against the

1222
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,119
Jedi here basically saying, okay,
now we want to do a full,

1223
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:39,239
a full investigation on the Jedi.
And I like that exposition of the senator

1224
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:41,399
saying, what happens to one of
you guys goes bad? And like who's

1225
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,920
going to be there to protect people? YadA YadA YadA, Like you guys

1226
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,079
have too much power and your sugarcoating
it is being monks or religion and so

1227
01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:48,880
forth. And I liked all that. I thought it was great, but

1228
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:54,680
I don't like how Vernestra is basically
leading the charge on this. If the

1229
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:59,159
Chancellor and the Senator have grievance,
I want to do an inquiry. Vernestra

1230
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:01,640
isn't representing a whole of the Jedi
order. I don't know why she is.

1231
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:06,079
It should have been Yoda in that
chair, like talking like just anybody

1232
01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:10,560
on the couch. That's why he
wasn't there, right had They're like,

1233
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,560
we gotta puppet like puppet of his
head. But yeah, like it feel

1234
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,039
like it should be somebody else other
than But I guess maybe you get tie

1235
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:19,760
it into their more grilling her about
what happened with Soul, I guess.

1236
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,119
So they're just also happening to mention
that they're gonna investigate. So maybe she's

1237
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:29,000
not there as the had appointment person, but it was not because like in

1238
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:30,920
the Phantom Menace, it's just like
they're not the same. You just walk

1239
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,920
up, but like you can even
in the books, like you can schedule

1240
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,920
like a meeting and then go see
them, you know, it's not like

1241
01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:41,319
they never did once. And yeah, for me, it's also just weird

1242
01:18:41,319 --> 01:18:45,680
where I don't like Fault, like
she's the good guy character, I guess,

1243
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,399
and we're supposed to fall like I
like Soul to me is the character

1244
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,600
I think we all liked, like
I like with them, kind of saying

1245
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:59,319
little Soul was okay, he did
some things, but like like not he

1246
01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:01,479
didn't actually go in there and kill
the witches. One was self defense and

1247
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,920
one was again I thought it was
a weak reasoning, but still he couldn't

1248
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,880
hold both girls right, so both
of them were like accidental. He didn't

1249
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,159
want He didn't on purpose like take
May and like sorry May and throw her

1250
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:14,560
down. He didn't just behead Mother
and Nissa in front of everybody. They

1251
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,079
were all mistakes. So for me
for her to frame him, which I

1252
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:20,279
can't remember who was someone in her
chat a couple weeks ago said then I

1253
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:21,960
was like, I don't think we're
going on the route. They were completely

1254
01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:26,319
right and I was wrong there.
But for her to do like all this

1255
01:19:26,399 --> 01:19:29,479
shady stuff and saying he pretty much
like committed suicide and everything, it's like

1256
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,720
they want me to invest in that
character of who I want to follow with

1257
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,279
May, and I'm not, Like
I'm not invested. It feels like I'm

1258
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:41,479
fall like it's fine if we were
following the villain, then that's like if

1259
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,239
she was a villain and she's done
these things covering herself up. But she's

1260
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:46,479
supposed to be one of the heroes
of the story I'm rooting for and I'm

1261
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,039
supposed to want to follow her after
what she did was soul It's like I

1262
01:19:50,079 --> 01:19:53,680
don't know. And again, like
what it comes back to with the caddy

1263
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:59,199
money thing and one of the Jedi. Know, it's just odd to for

1264
01:19:59,279 --> 01:20:00,560
me and what I think. I
get that people always go, well,

1265
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,319
they were always keeping secrets and they
didn't want to know, but just such

1266
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:09,600
a big cover for something that could
be, especially after she had the vision

1267
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,479
or like she felt her old apprentice
there. It's like you're being like,

1268
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,640
this is I guess we'll see what
happens with Yoda, but I feel like

1269
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,359
that's gonna be well, yeah,
we haven't talked about about that, but

1270
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,159
Yoda, that's like it's not an
any credit but it's kind of credit show.

1271
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,479
Ends phase of black and then she
walks through the door and says,

1272
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,239
I need to talk to some important
master. I think they're walking on eggshells

1273
01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:30,920
there too, Like you think people
are meant that Caddy Mondey might have heard

1274
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,479
about like a Force user killing other
Force users. If Yoda this whole time

1275
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,760
like it's your your I get.
I think there's a line. And this

1276
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,560
is my last point, because I
didn't see Kirkling that he's stirring around.

1277
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:49,039
There's a line between making the Jedi
blind and make some mistakes and egotistical too.

1278
01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:53,319
They are almost just doing a full
and cover up job and they're like

1279
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:57,520
the villains like to me and Phantom
Menace, they are idiots and their downfall

1280
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,079
is their fault. But to make
it this point where it's like, yeah,

1281
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:02,439
there's been multiple times where the maybe
the Sith popped up, but we

1282
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:08,600
were just like showering. It's like
or putting in shadows that I don't I

1283
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,880
think that just messes with am Menace
too much for me, but that they

1284
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,359
do. But that's where it's interesting
with Vernestra because she doesn't say or and

1285
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,920
it's gonna be very just going to
see how this goes because all she knows

1286
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,640
that her apprentice turned to the dark
side or fell to the dark side.

1287
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,479
Now Sith again, I know.
You see, if he's in the dark

1288
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,640
side, you're user, absolutely a
dark side user. But we see here

1289
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,920
too knowing that it is worth noting
absolutely Vernestra can't be trusted because she's sugarcoating

1290
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,600
a lot of things here. The
other thing too, is that, uh

1291
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,359
yeah, with Kimie falling to the
dark side, now it seems like,

1292
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:45,680
Okay, what I'm thinking here is
if it is this path forward, this

1293
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:53,279
narrative, Plague is tempted him City
of Style Kimer turned on her his master,

1294
01:21:53,399 --> 01:21:56,079
and then Vernestra had to fight him
in self defense. Not why he's

1295
01:21:56,079 --> 01:21:58,319
about the scars on his back and
she even she was like, oh,

1296
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:01,520
you're alive, like what, So
he got away from her and so forth.

1297
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,680
So I think that's interesting dynamics.
So she obviously assumed that he was

1298
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:10,039
dead. Now it's too far gone
that she can't report this because Yoda might

1299
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,159
fuck her up. Who knows,
but yeah, it kills her, and

1300
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:18,199
like he does the same thing.
Oh, Vanesha took her life. I

1301
01:22:18,199 --> 01:22:23,920
don't know what happened. She's just
Jedi, you savor, it's red.

1302
01:22:24,079 --> 01:22:30,199
It wasn't after all. So I
I just think that she's just so far

1303
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,720
down the rabbit hole and it's it's
this is what's really gonna do it for

1304
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,920
so many Jedi. But yeah,
she's a it's it's it's interesting to see

1305
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,600
how this is going to move forward. Because Kaimier proclaims himself to be a

1306
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,119
Sith, that's how the Jedi would
approach him. But she doesn't know he's

1307
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:45,760
a Sith. No one knows he's
a Sith. All the Jedi afraid of

1308
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,119
are other people using the Force that
aren't Jedi. As we see that's the

1309
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:54,840
main theme with the witches, right, they're afraid of the the convergence or

1310
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:59,439
whatever the virgence was, that's gonna
happen many Yeah, so they're the Jedi

1311
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,680
are afraid of that, and they
imply it again too with the senators saying,

1312
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,239
oh, you guys just use all
this power, and what happens if

1313
01:23:05,239 --> 01:23:09,640
one of you guys goes awry with
it? So that's the main thing that

1314
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,560
they're going for here, and Kimyer
did do that. He went awry,

1315
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,960
which everybody was fan thearing that like
a senator whatnot. They thought he was

1316
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,960
gonna be the voice of Plagas because
he has like a deeper voice. So

1317
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:23,000
I thought was going to be in
the room like it was gonna be with

1318
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:26,119
the senator. Oft. I thought
we're gonna see like a mune that was

1319
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,039
the senator, like immune was standing
there and be like, oh my god,

1320
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:30,319
he's under cover. Wouldn't that be? I wouldn't want that because I

1321
01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:33,239
feel it would be too much like
uh, Palpatine, right if he was

1322
01:23:33,279 --> 01:23:36,079
also a senator, Like I feel
like that's way too close to the vests

1323
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:40,800
of being like doing the exact same
thing again. So but uh, Yeah,

1324
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,439
everyone thought he was gonna be maybe
the voice of him or Tenebris or

1325
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,960
Venomous, and now he's just just
a senator. Who'sator? Who it's At

1326
01:23:48,039 --> 01:23:51,279
one point, it's funny Venetta.
He was talking to Venestra and I can't

1327
01:23:51,279 --> 01:23:55,960
remember allline dialogue, but he had
like a string of three to four sentences

1328
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,640
and it felt like every because he's
questioning her, and it felt like every

1329
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,720
writing problem I had with the show, because like, what about this?

1330
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,079
Why wouldn't you report like all these
things where it's like is he just being

1331
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:06,239
like a deadpool and breaking the fourth
wall? Because it felt like he was

1332
01:24:06,279 --> 01:24:10,399
just actively talking about the bad writing
in the show. He wasn't, but

1333
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,079
he was just and she had really
no answer for it. So it's like,

1334
01:24:13,119 --> 01:24:19,960
man, this is a full circle
what this show is? So where

1335
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,439
am I going with that? Anything? Venestra and her soul sold up?

1336
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,159
Framed? And Yoda? How you
feel about Yoda the green guy me in

1337
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:35,560
there? I don't really feel anything
by seeing Yoda there at all, Like,

1338
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,199
if you don't have the budget to
have in the show, just don't

1339
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,560
even have him in there, and
like where's gonna lead? Like but like

1340
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,960
where's this gonna lead? Right?
Like season two? Is he now going

1341
01:24:44,039 --> 01:24:46,399
to be a main character? I
highly doubt it. I bet he could

1342
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,079
be a care But that's what before
you go that, Yeah, I'll ask

1343
01:24:49,159 --> 01:24:54,239
you what what would she because you're
talking about Vanestra. What woul Vanestra say

1344
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:58,359
to Yoda? Here? Fucked up? Man, fucked up? She just

1345
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:03,920
pulls her lightsaber out and like kills
him. But like you're talking about like,

1346
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,239
oh it's they say, Okay,
it's not a sith use or everything,

1347
01:25:06,279 --> 01:25:11,079
But like, what story does she
tell him that Yoda's not like suspiciousness

1348
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:15,159
is you know, I mean considering
you can get past killing a whole tribe

1349
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:19,399
Tesquan raiders And he doesn't bad and
Yoda's the racist piece of ship the raiders

1350
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:28,279
know where the Yeah, I fucking
hate that fun That's where I'm from.

1351
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:30,319
Master, Yeah, you're a fucking
little bitch. And he goes back to

1352
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:39,079
but what what did say? Keep
lying that Yoda's not like thinking Inhanta men,

1353
01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:42,920
it's like something's really up because him
and Mace Window are quite surprised when

1354
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,840
there's talk of red Lightsabert. It's
hard to say what she would tell Yoda

1355
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,159
because at this point, we don't
know what the Chancellor decided, right the

1356
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:50,720
Chancellor just said what happened to Saul
and she said, well, Soul took

1357
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,800
his own life. We don't know
what the decision was, is she I

1358
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,479
feel like we could see her saying, like the Chancellor was putting our senator

1359
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,800
so and so is pushing for an
investigation to the Jedi master, or like

1360
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,640
the Chancellor stopped it the Chancellor agreed
to it. I think it's either one

1361
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,479
of those scenarios, because if if
they push and they say we need to

1362
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,520
investigate the Jedi, well she's gonna
have to tell Yoda, because Yoda will

1363
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,640
find out either way. So so
you think they're ending with the big teas,

1364
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,319
but really it's just gonna be something
simple as we're being investigated, and

1365
01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:24,159
that's it. It's either that or
the unlikely thing, because I don't trust

1366
01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:28,439
the writers either. Fucking but I
don't trust the writers. Who opens Yoda?

1367
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:34,840
Just Yoda's all whipped up. I
can't do Yoda, He's just hanging

1368
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,960
one fell. I think the unlikely
route, and this is again attributed because

1369
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,319
I don't trust the writers with this, is that she would tell him that

1370
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:50,479
Hey, master Yoda, I detected
that my former apprentice is still alive and

1371
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,600
he felt to the dark side.
What are we gonna do? And again

1372
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,159
they're not, that's gonna piss people
off, because a lot of people out

1373
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,159
there, like yourself, are like, oh, well Sith, they know

1374
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:02,319
Sith, now ya the Ada.
But again it's not Chimeier. They don't

1375
01:27:02,359 --> 01:27:06,800
know Kimeer is that And they blamed
it all on soul and there's a whole

1376
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,560
disconnect going on with a jem ask
it's not. But I think for me,

1377
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,840
it's just like in Pantom Mess,
it just feels like they think it's

1378
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,119
so far apart to have any inkling
in one hundred years that even if there's

1379
01:27:16,119 --> 01:27:18,640
someone that fell to the dark side, not a Sith, it's still like

1380
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,479
it feels less believable now when they're
like really surprised, like, well,

1381
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,680
remember about eighty years ago there was
Vanestra's apprentice fell on the dark Side,

1382
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,199
Like this could happen, Like that's
where I think they would start preparing again.

1383
01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:32,880
Where That's what I like about Maul
and Palpatine. They come out of

1384
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,880
nowhere. It's just fucking Qui gon
is taking Anakin back to the ship and

1385
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,560
dark Mouth does a backfoot office speederbike
with a red light safer and it's like,

1386
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,479
what the fuck is this where now
if it's like, oh, yeah,

1387
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,880
remember there's been a couple of dark
Side sighting and it's like it loses

1388
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,680
on that impact again of because then
I then it makes them look even dumber.

1389
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:56,960
And it's just it's like the only
way I think that like structurally makes

1390
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:01,279
sense going forward is if she just
doesn't tell him about I'm here, and

1391
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,960
I don't know, maybe she does
tell him about that, and Yoda just

1392
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,840
doesn't give a fuck about about like
any of this, and like, yeah,

1393
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:14,359
that's also like a downer right for
just like well, I don't know,

1394
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,640
like I I don't know if right
now, like that's something that he's

1395
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,359
thinking about. And I also don't
know Yoda's mind works, like maybe he's

1396
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,920
thinking big scale and it's like this
is all just a path that leads us

1397
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:29,680
to Luke Skywalker, Like I don't
know all about that, but he doesn't

1398
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,560
know what Anakin yet, but he's
waiting for Luke. He's yeah, exactly,

1399
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,239
I don't I don't know if he's
a big picture guy or how he

1400
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:40,279
thinks, like I really don't know
how he thinks day to day. He

1401
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:46,600
knew about Were sixty six and let
it happen. He's Doctor Manhattan. Doctor

1402
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,439
man Hadden is like, Hey,
billions of people are dead, but we

1403
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:54,720
got peace. So you know what, let's let's roll the tape. So

1404
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:59,560
yeah, and then if if,
if she doesn't tell him about it,

1405
01:29:00,199 --> 01:29:04,439
I would hope that for season two, if she does keep this a secret,

1406
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,720
I hope she gets fucking chopped up
pretty early on, like maybe like

1407
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,760
maybe she goes and she's making it
to the finale. My friend, I

1408
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,359
guarantee you Krimeer is not going to
kill her the last episode because she also

1409
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,560
chokes her out like the exact same
way that Soul went out. Yeah,

1410
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,800
I'm not trying to do nepotism,
but she is the wife of the showrunner.

1411
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,760
So that's why I think she's definitely
gonna make it a season two finale.

1412
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,039
Interesting. Yeah, yeah, that
always helps your theories. Yeah,

1413
01:29:29,079 --> 01:29:32,880
because I don't know, Like I
like, she's already showing very selfish things

1414
01:29:33,039 --> 01:29:38,159
which are supposed to not be like
the Jedi way right, like it should

1415
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,319
be it should be transparent with these
things. I get it. Why you

1416
01:29:41,359 --> 01:29:45,279
would want to keep certain things to
the Senate, maybe like hush hush,

1417
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:53,359
but I don't know, like she
doesn't really seem to be like telling other

1418
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,720
Jedi, and I guess that's maybe
what the Yoda discussion would have been.

1419
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,039
But again, like I have issues
depending on how that conversation will go.

1420
01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:05,720
So I don't know. It just
seems and it seems messy like going forward

1421
01:30:06,079 --> 01:30:11,359
on how they're they're gonna tackle that, And are you invested in like Vinestra's

1422
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:14,399
a character next season because she's gonna
be like I imagine a trainer of May,

1423
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:15,560
right, So that's where I'm for
me. It's just like even that,

1424
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,960
like the lower stuff aside, I'm
just not invested in that character right

1425
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,439
now. I I think I can
be, but for what was shown,

1426
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,960
it's I just I'm definitely not there
yet. And like I would mention that

1427
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,680
like oh maybe I just I need
to read like High Republic novel But you

1428
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,880
guys mentioned like those are when she's
younger, right, or is there a

1429
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,359
novel that like she is in this
kind of old young adult stuff. Yeah,

1430
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,720
when she's just like pure Padawan or
night mode where she's still the learner

1431
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,920
and stuff. She ain't she ain't
hinde ship from the Council yet. I

1432
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,319
guess yeah, Like, I don't
know, I could potentially see a really

1433
01:30:47,319 --> 01:30:53,920
interesting story where like maybe May is
like her secret apprentice. I'm not like,

1434
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,960
like I'm not saying she's gonna be
a full Sith with this like Jedi,

1435
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,880
this this master apprentice type situation.
But maybe that's just like her her

1436
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,159
secret agent that she just like sends
out to like get information and like didn't

1437
01:31:08,359 --> 01:31:13,039
really be I don't know, trying
to control the situation and keep it hush

1438
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:15,760
hush, and then it just keeps
like escalating and becomes this big thing that

1439
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,399
eventually explodes. I think that's a
pretty interesting story of like a Jed that's

1440
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:25,560
trying to do good but is doing
it in a, you know, off

1441
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:30,000
the book sort of way. So
what what do what is the Council,

1442
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:34,199
the Republic, whatever, What do
they know about May that's here? They

1443
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:38,960
don't know I'm assuming they don't even
know she's there, right, Okay,

1444
01:31:39,039 --> 01:31:41,479
That's what I'm just wondering, because
like what we talked about before, she

1445
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,119
has killed two Jedi right even within
her Like do they not know she's there?

1446
01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:48,359
Are they? Are they gonna play
it off like that's Osha still,

1447
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,520
Like that's what I'm I'm confused about
what they because, especially like he said,

1448
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,479
she might have to train her on
the down low, because I think

1449
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,000
you can't just have her walking around
the school the academy and people like who

1450
01:31:59,039 --> 01:32:01,760
is this like Osha, Well,
we'll remember Osha had a sister, this

1451
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,439
is her, Well didn't she kill
didn't she kill Master Torvin? And all

1452
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:09,520
this stuff like oh yeah, but
or her memory was wiped, so she's

1453
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,359
all good, like which is funny
because like that's what I'm not saying.

1454
01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:15,119
I'm posta because and now a nice
of the Republic. They know that.

1455
01:32:15,159 --> 01:32:17,880
But the difference was Revin was so
powerful they were like, we can use

1456
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,880
this star advantage, where I don't
think May's that powerful where it'd be worth

1457
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,720
it to me. It'd be more
like if Kime here got his mind wiped

1458
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:28,479
and she was like, okay,
we could use him for good, but

1459
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,680
I don't think May is worth the
trouble, Like she's probably more worth just

1460
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:33,399
taking out back and putting a bowl
in her, you know, in that

1461
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,000
point, because she remembers. It's
like, well, I just like,

1462
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,560
what does she bring the table I
get. I guess the only thing is

1463
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:44,119
van Estra did say that she apologized
for the Jedi failing her, so I

1464
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:46,159
guess she feels bad about what did
happen to her. So there's something I

1465
01:32:46,199 --> 01:32:49,960
can latch onto. The tie to
Osha that's like a big one race.

1466
01:32:50,039 --> 01:32:55,479
And then if she is assuming that
OSHA's with Chime here, she obviously wants

1467
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,640
to eventually get to Chyme here.
So I think it's just like information.

1468
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:04,560
Uh yeah, it's amnesia, but
I imagine it's in there somewhere, like

1469
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:11,399
you can you can get those memories
back. But uh, like the like,

1470
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,319
there definitely is many Jedi that at
least know about May and what's been

1471
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:19,199
going on. Like Shiva mentions h
when Venicestra's interrogating her, It's like,

1472
01:33:19,239 --> 01:33:27,399
wow, they told me that I
killed someone I like. And I imagine

1473
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,760
if the Jedi are getting investigated,
like I feel like they can't really hide

1474
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:35,199
her and if they they wanted to, now would be the time. I

1475
01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:39,479
don't know, like like maybe Vnesta's
gonna talk to Yoda about that, but

1476
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,560
I don't know. I that's where
it gets messy because it's well, now

1477
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,199
Yoda is is in the in the
Fray, and like, why the fuck

1478
01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:48,800
didn't he talk about this stuff,
right, especially if going forward like plague

1479
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:54,399
us if if he appears again in
season two and like, I don't know,

1480
01:33:54,520 --> 01:34:01,199
I every Saturday, old friend.
I guess he could write to Taylor's

1481
01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:04,399
point that some people don't know his
plague is like the Dark Plagas. Right,

1482
01:34:04,399 --> 01:34:06,760
does he have like a real name, Taylor, Yeah, he go

1483
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:14,600
to mask because his real name,
he go to you. He's also he's

1484
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,319
also, oh yeah, he go
to mask you right? What the fuck

1485
01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:26,560
you? This kind of in hand
with what you were saying here, So

1486
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,800
when you type in he go to
mask, you get fucking Bltimore's picture the

1487
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:38,439
Star Wars not even the Cannon book
like a Legends book cover, Like why

1488
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,840
is it Boldemort? Oh my god? Better known as Dark Plagas. So

1489
01:34:43,399 --> 01:34:46,159
good for him. I hope he's
banking it up. So so we'll see

1490
01:34:46,199 --> 01:34:48,520
what happens with Plague, it's obviously, I guess, And that's probably be

1491
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,239
something that pisses off people too.
They're gonna think that this is where he

1492
01:34:51,279 --> 01:34:57,279
gets the idea for uh, the
not Anakin, but for him Palpatine to

1493
01:34:57,279 --> 01:35:00,520
try and create some of the Forest, right, because it's gonna be the

1494
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,680
idea that they sees Osha and he
finds out out May and finds out they're

1495
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,399
the exact same, not twins,
and that's gonna the idea of creating something

1496
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:10,000
from the Force. And I feel
like, uh, some people are not

1497
01:35:10,119 --> 01:35:14,399
going to enjoy that. I'm I'm
on a wait, let me see how

1498
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:15,800
they do it, because that's not
as boholden to me as far as Force

1499
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,560
stuff. But I think they're gonna
go that route. That's what I was

1500
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,000
gonna ask, Like, I don't
think I was on that week for the

1501
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,039
review when that happened that it was
like revealed their Force babies, but like

1502
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,439
why do people care? Like like
why, like why is that a pay

1503
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,439
for some people? At that that
was only Anakin's thing. So that's why

1504
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,960
the second you do that, Anakin
is less special, so which I I

1505
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:40,079
don't agree with, but I understand
because that's how I am with Luke Skywalker.

1506
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:43,680
I don't like in the Cannon in
the Car or in the Disney canon

1507
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,439
that there's other Jedi around during the
Dark Times. To me, it's like

1508
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,119
it's weird for them all to put
their chips on Luke Skywalker, when there's

1509
01:35:49,119 --> 01:35:53,680
Ezrabridga, there's Canaan whatever his name
is. There's a Soca. So for

1510
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,920
me, that's like a fan thing
where like I don't like Luke should be

1511
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,680
the only one after everyone dies sintil
Hey transit Lea. So I think that's

1512
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,479
where some people Anakin they feel that
makes them less special because he was supposed

1513
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,880
to be a virgins in the Forest, but now there's somebody else that was

1514
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:10,600
a virgins in the Forest before,
and now I think they don't like it

1515
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,560
because it's gonna be like, oh
well, because they're gonna make Osha and

1516
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,520
May so important because like, without
them, Anakin wouldn't be born. I

1517
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,359
think people don't like that because if
they don't like the show, then it's

1518
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:27,159
prequiet as stuff. Okay, yeah, thanks for the explanation. Yeah,

1519
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,960
let's say your last ad break and
then we'll be right back. All right,

1520
01:36:31,039 --> 01:36:34,279
we are back. Let's see so
only thing I want to talk about

1521
01:36:34,279 --> 01:36:39,560
again. So I think we all
knew he's gonna die. But great acting

1522
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,119
in this episode. I think he's
still I like Kymier the most is a

1523
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:45,439
character. I think he's still a
really good actor too. But all in

1524
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,640
all like the series, that guy
was always consistent. Usually in the best

1525
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,880
scenes. I think came and Kymie
again the top stuff this. I thought

1526
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,680
the action was really good. I
didn't really understand why May and Osha had

1527
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,439
to fight here and actually thought some
of their fight scenes were a bit too

1528
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,800
dancy for me. But Kai Mere
soul great lightsaber dual. I thought that

1529
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,359
was tons of fun, and I
think he sold everything as far as when

1530
01:37:05,399 --> 01:37:09,359
he had to talk to Osha,
when he was explained to me, I

1531
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,439
got to heke us. But I
thought that he did a great job,

1532
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,199
and if anything, I were to
rewatch the show because my excitement to see

1533
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:18,159
his performance again. I wish the
show was longer so we could have got

1534
01:37:18,199 --> 01:37:21,880
even more of it. But I
thought through and through he did a fantastic

1535
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:27,760
job and that character even then,
as for some reason, I don't have

1536
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,840
too many cons with that character.
I think they handled that well. And

1537
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,479
that's the thing with this show,
where there's things that aren't bad or flawed,

1538
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,960
I think there's things that make sense. It was a torn guy that

1539
01:37:38,079 --> 01:37:41,359
made a couple of mistakes, but
he was still doing it in the right

1540
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,640
of, you know, trying to
be good. Even this episode, he

1541
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,159
was about to say he loved Osha
and then right on love that's when she

1542
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:48,000
started choking, which I thought that
was a nice touch. But he was

1543
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,199
a more emotional Jedi. I didn't
like how all of them sometimes were emotional

1544
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,399
Jedi. But I really liked the
sole character and I thought this episode again,

1545
01:37:55,439 --> 01:38:00,479
the light Zer fight scene did a
it was great. Like it I

1546
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,039
don't know, I was gonna say
men expectations, but I just felt I

1547
01:38:02,079 --> 01:38:08,199
felt satisfied with the scene as a
one on one duel. Yeah, I

1548
01:38:08,199 --> 01:38:13,199
thought that the battle between him and
Chimer was was really great and yeah,

1549
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,960
I'm there with you at the ocean
may. I feel like I like the

1550
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:25,319
transition between like it'd be like her
her, her fighting her, and then

1551
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:28,880
it would go to uh Soul and
Chymer. Just those transitions were fun.

1552
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:33,800
It reminded me of It's like it's
just like a duplicate character that just has

1553
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,439
like the same moves and they're just
like they know all their moves and they're

1554
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:41,479
just like hitting each other. That's
almost how it felt. I did liked.

1555
01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:45,680
I did like overall just like the
martial arts usage of it. I

1556
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,920
feel like it's pretty rare to get
back in Star Wars, like they usually

1557
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:54,600
try and use lightsabers when they can. Yeah, but I think because there

1558
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:58,359
was a lightsaber battle going on like
in Parallel, I was okay with it

1559
01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:02,439
because that battle was really good.
Fuck I man, when when Chimeer like

1560
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:08,000
separates his blades does like the lightsaber
throw and then Master Soul just like sheets

1561
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,680
his saber does that like Forest poles
thing. That was just like Chef's kiss.

1562
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,439
That was that was awesome. I
felt, I felt the power in

1563
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,800
that moment. Is an episode five
to Kymier also throw his lightsaber right that

1564
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,840
was fourth one. Yeah, okay, that's because that created the conversation.

1565
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,159
Remember we were like, other than
Vader, we don't really actually see that,

1566
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:28,359
so it's good to see it again. And I also didn't think he

1567
01:39:28,399 --> 01:39:30,760
had second lightsare was that small to
be honest in the fourth episode, like

1568
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,000
I knew was smaller, but this
was like it was more like a like

1569
01:39:34,039 --> 01:39:38,760
a dagger, like a lightsaber dagger
in a way, like it was a

1570
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,000
very small still effective, And I
liked that because that was something cool where

1571
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,880
it's not just the two dual wields, it's one that's a little bit smaller.

1572
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,399
So I feel like if you're fighting
them, it's it changes the whole

1573
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,039
dynamic of just oh, his two
lightsabers, Like, well, he's a

1574
01:39:51,079 --> 01:39:55,159
lightsaber, then he has like the
smaller one. So I really liked that

1575
01:39:55,279 --> 01:40:00,000
choice there. So I guess he's
got two kyber crystals. Supposedly that he's

1576
01:40:00,079 --> 01:40:02,119
blood. That's like a Yoda sized
craber crystal. Did he like fuck that

1577
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:08,039
Yoda's mom or something? Well,
apparently I can't remember where I've seen this

1578
01:40:08,279 --> 01:40:12,000
might even have been Clone Wars,
or maybe it was in Rebels one of

1579
01:40:12,039 --> 01:40:15,600
the animated shows. But you can
actually adjust the height of your saber.

1580
01:40:15,359 --> 01:40:18,000
Now. Of course, that smaller
one, I'm sure it's just the way

1581
01:40:18,039 --> 01:40:20,600
you build them. So I mean
they could do whatever they want with it.

1582
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,399
But so you could have two of
the mini ones, eh if he

1583
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,079
wants. Yeah, i'd actually like
see characters do that. I think that'd

1584
01:40:27,079 --> 01:40:28,880
be fun have like two daggers.
So I feel like there has to be

1585
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,640
something like a speedy character, like
I feel like someone that's very fast,

1586
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,840
like then you don't have to worry
about those big blocks driving boss. Yeah.

1587
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,840
Maybe I just think that because if
you're fast, Because I again prefer

1588
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,319
lights here as being a bit more
heavy. I don't love the prequel too

1589
01:40:41,399 --> 01:40:44,680
much when they're just flipping around,
so that would be kind of fun that,

1590
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,079
Oh they're smaller, but you could
be super even quick with them.

1591
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:51,119
So no, I like that.
That's cool. Yeah, And then just

1592
01:40:51,159 --> 01:40:55,560
wrapping up my thoughts on Soul.
Yeah, I know, I fantastic casting.

1593
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,880
It was so great to see this
lad in something other than squid Game.

1594
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,800
And as you know, she would
say, I'm going to be following

1595
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:10,600
his career with great interest. I've
I never mind. You don't like it,

1596
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,239
you hate him, you don't want
to see him anything. No,

1597
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,800
No, we'll return to this conversation
a couple of weeks. Very curious what

1598
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,640
you're what you're talking about there,
But I'm just saying I probably see I

1599
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,760
could see him being cast in a
com book thing, is what I'm saying.

1600
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,840
Okay, so you're you're you're showing
your cards are interesting. So viewers,

1601
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,359
I'm doing that for you because in
case, like man, you didn't

1602
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,439
tell one, serve you. Travis
at One said, he allude to something

1603
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,560
a few weeks from now. This
is my first episode. How does he

1604
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,720
know I'm going to be listening?
So there you go, it's because I

1605
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,479
think he could get cast in something
combook related, but at the same time

1606
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:45,720
they are doing squad games. We
might be born with that. But I

1607
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,479
just feel like, you know,
he could suit some of these if they

1608
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:54,119
do ever more foreign movies out there. So yeah, and I agree with

1609
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:58,079
you, Travis. I think like
judging the writing, uh, it's been

1610
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:01,279
messy, but for his character at
least, like it is pretty it is

1611
01:42:01,319 --> 01:42:04,600
pretty sound, I think, especially
comparing to what we've seen there. I

1612
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:10,399
did like kind of the the big
pain that that he's been carrying with him

1613
01:42:10,399 --> 01:42:13,279
like this whole time, Like he's
clearly felt a lot of regret over what

1614
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:18,479
happened, and really like not just
regret for what happened, but like unable

1615
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,960
to save the two girls. And
you couldn't even save one of the girls,

1616
01:42:23,159 --> 01:42:26,399
right because the one that he thought
he could save ended up choking the

1617
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,800
lights out of him and went to
the dark side. So it is a

1618
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,600
very tragic, sad ending. Yeah, and like he's just going yeah,

1619
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:38,720
no, like he's like he's just
dishonored, like any family member that he

1620
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,920
has now is like, Wow,
what a disappointment to our fucking family.

1621
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,960
That soul was like, what a
son of a biggest Jersey. Yeah,

1622
01:42:45,399 --> 01:42:50,760
that guy take it down from the
rafters. So, I mean, you

1623
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:56,279
know, that's that's what happens sometimes, casualties of war. And who knows,

1624
01:42:56,279 --> 01:43:00,000
maybe in a thousand years someone will
pick up that cold case and realize

1625
01:43:00,319 --> 01:43:03,680
it wasn't him. Fuck. Could
you imagine that season two they do that

1626
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:11,600
time jump and it's like Ray looking
into so was this speak you imagine episode

1627
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:16,359
one of ACOL season two. It
just opens with Daisy Ridley just like speaking

1628
01:43:16,399 --> 01:43:20,840
to your two young pad ones who
don't know what the fuck she's talking about

1629
01:43:21,039 --> 01:43:27,359
Soul, and they're like, Master
Ray, tell us about that time he

1630
01:43:27,359 --> 01:43:30,600
almost fucked Ben Solo in the fire. Oh yes, we used to skype

1631
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:36,520
call. We still do doa there
anyone lost thoughts on Soul. I think

1632
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:41,199
his acting was really really good in
this this episode. Again, I've just

1633
01:43:41,239 --> 01:43:43,920
I've liked his acting. Answer you
show the whole the whole season, but

1634
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,960
him crying as he's just being force
choked out, just yeah, it's it's

1635
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:54,720
brutal stuff or good Saturday or good
Saturday. But he uh yeah, he

1636
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:59,439
he paid the price for for his
lie and he it's it's unfortunate that it

1637
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,520
ended this way, like he it's
the downfall of himself through Osha because he

1638
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,159
created Osha and he kept the truth
from her and he kept trying to throw

1639
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:14,159
there's just their empty excuses, empty
reasons that he's just throwing at her,

1640
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:15,319
like oh, I wanted you to
have the life you always dreamed of.

1641
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:20,199
Okay, Okay, that's that's that's
not what you're that's not what you should

1642
01:44:20,199 --> 01:44:23,039
be saying right now. Like,
oh, you know, they would have

1643
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:25,600
taken you away from me. Okay, maybe that's a little bit better,

1644
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,600
but still not on the right track, Like he should have just said I'm

1645
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,760
sorry, And as soon as she
told him to stop talking, he should

1646
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,159
have stopped talking. Show left it
at that, but should cut her head

1647
01:44:35,159 --> 01:44:43,520
off, killed right in front of
me. I like the I like the

1648
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,199
whole setup though, Like, oh, I see May holding a lightsaber but

1649
01:44:46,279 --> 01:44:49,720
killing Soul without using it, and
that was really because of the same person.

1650
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:55,960
So that's really it just was Ocean
who did it. Whichall we got

1651
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,119
an answer how you kill a Jedi
without using a lightsaber or using a weapon?

1652
01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:03,239
Sorry he used the force study the
forest. Yeah, yeah, there

1653
01:45:03,279 --> 01:45:08,560
you go. I thought I had
one more thing on my mind, Taylor.

1654
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:14,239
There was a chat GPT ready as
well do that? Well, yeah

1655
01:45:14,279 --> 01:45:17,239
we didn't. Uh we uh the
finale show, I think right, I

1656
01:45:17,239 --> 01:45:19,439
don't know, I got you.
I got you. I can whip it

1657
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:26,399
up. There was a moment when
may gosh, there, you know,

1658
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,520
Jedi looks stupid sometimes I can't believe
that he didn't just take the pip droid

1659
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,399
from her when he when he ties
her like like, how do you not

1660
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,479
know that the droid can fucking do
these things? Like it's it's right there

1661
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:42,680
in her like gun Holster poach.
But nonetheless I digress. She she is

1662
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,880
running away from him, and she
says like, see you in Hell,

1663
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,399
Jedi. Mm hmm. It's like, is that a thing in the Jedi?

1664
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,000
Yes, we talked about this before
because I was something that I did.

1665
01:45:55,079 --> 01:45:57,880
I can't remember when. I think
it's in the sequel series. They

1666
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,439
said that, And I don't know
if I really like that, but I

1667
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,600
think someone said god and I did
point out that they do make certain like

1668
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:09,479
several and original trilogy solo Han Solo
says I'll see you in Hell to another

1669
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:15,079
rebel. It just stood out a
lot. It's funny you guys were talking

1670
01:46:15,119 --> 01:46:19,119
about that pop song that they had
to in the whatever episode. It stood

1671
01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:21,960
out to me. I didn't really
care for it because it happened in the

1672
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,199
credits, like it was just like, okay, whatever. I think it's

1673
01:46:26,239 --> 01:46:29,600
a big difference if it happens they're
like at a bar and like Dua Lipa's

1674
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,560
out there playing fucking just one of
our number one hits. So that would

1675
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:35,079
have taken me out for sure.
I guess. Yeah, we have the

1676
01:46:35,079 --> 01:46:39,880
the Lizo Jack Black sequence, so
that's another thing that's in Star Wars.

1677
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,800
But it just stood out to me. But I mean, clearly it's been

1678
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,399
a thing that's been reoccurring. I'm
sure they have like a realm of like

1679
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:51,000
a like a hell escape something like
that, whether it's in legends or a

1680
01:46:51,079 --> 01:46:55,960
canon something. But yeah, just
just the wording of it, it seemed

1681
01:46:56,159 --> 01:47:01,840
bizarre. One thing we didn't talk
about actually really really enjoyed the like the

1682
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,720
chase and the space rocks or whatever. I actually thought that was one of

1683
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:10,960
the more visually pleasing Star Wars cgi
things I've seen. I thought, I

1684
01:47:11,079 --> 01:47:14,039
like the scale of it, I
like the chase, So I actually really

1685
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:16,279
enjoyed that scene. You yeah,
you're reminded me. I agree. I

1686
01:47:16,279 --> 01:47:20,600
think visually looks beautiful clost like big
screen stuff. I wanted to see that

1687
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:25,119
in the theaters. You know,
what's that little thing called Basil? Basil

1688
01:47:25,159 --> 01:47:28,760
man? Why did he just fuck
over Soul like that and just jack up

1689
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:33,159
his ship? I don't know,
like he's working with playing us, Like

1690
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:39,239
what the hell was going on?
And like we never like we never really

1691
01:47:39,279 --> 01:47:45,399
like have an interaction between Soul and
him, Like he's just like rip it

1692
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:49,840
out his and then he just like
skitties away, like what the hells?

1693
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:56,920
Like, this is the worst three
days of my fucking I'm chasing this girl

1694
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,840
that I thought let die, Oh
was fucking alien rip. I know the

1695
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,600
same things I just had. What
the fuck is Basil doing? And I

1696
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,439
don't know, maybe I miss them? You know why he like was for

1697
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,479
a moment ship for a moment,
I thought he was in maze ship or

1698
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,479
something. I'm like always helping him, like he's disabling the ship, but

1699
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:18,680
no, just fucking over the Jedi. Like I wish I had answer the

1700
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:24,600
scene, I got no answer.
The scene that follows after he pulls the

1701
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,239
chords out, Soul gives him the
what the fuck look, and then at

1702
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:32,680
the at the panoramic shot shows his
ship doing a fucking sideway spin and exploding

1703
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:36,319
in the debris. It's like,
what the fuck did he do? It

1704
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:41,199
makes no sense. When the jed
I show up, he just starts helping

1705
01:48:41,239 --> 01:48:45,800
him again. So it's like,
don't bring this guy. He probably always

1706
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:49,840
crazy, so killing everyone like,
it's just mean No, maybe somebody please

1707
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,640
tell me that's not taking down the
show overall. For me. That's just

1708
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:57,760
another like what's happening here? He
was the guy that knows he's he would

1709
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,840
have seen everything that happened. He
was there, he knew what happened with

1710
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,520
Kimer, he knew everything. But
then here he is, he's fucking around

1711
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,520
with Soul. He doesn't tell the
group of Jai that lands like, hey,

1712
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,720
Soul is innocent. No, he's
told them Soul is the Its like

1713
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:15,920
prime suspect number one. He sucked
up his ship too. Yeah, someone

1714
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,359
please messages let me know because I
didn't understand and I just looked like it

1715
01:49:19,399 --> 01:49:21,840
looked like he's fucking ship and he
did. So what is the reasoning for

1716
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:26,520
it? Makes sense too? Right? Because like Osha or May disguised as

1717
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,720
Osha a few episodes ago was trying
to leave the system with with Soul,

1718
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,119
right, but then the ship went
down. Systems went down, and May's

1719
01:49:33,159 --> 01:49:35,640
like, oh, I'll go check
it out. And then you got Bazil

1720
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:39,319
like fucking around, and we thought, oh, he's trying. He knows

1721
01:49:39,319 --> 01:49:41,600
he's trying to help Soul. But
no, the whole time he's on the

1722
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,319
ship, he's just fucking with the
ship. He's just he's just being a

1723
01:49:44,319 --> 01:49:48,720
little ship. Don't bring that guy
to any event ever. Again. Well,

1724
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:53,279
I guess Soul is dead so he
can't pass that on. But man,

1725
01:49:54,279 --> 01:49:57,520
you talk, I almost got this. That's on my notes cooking anymore.

1726
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,479
Uh, if you don't have to, we can do our overalls taylored

1727
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:06,159
girls. Yeah, I'm just I'm
just deep diving deep my little cranium.

1728
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:13,239
I uh, I have anything.
I didn't like Chimer's voice when he's in

1729
01:50:13,279 --> 01:50:18,079
the helmet. Yeah, it sounded
like a completely different actor and just like

1730
01:50:18,079 --> 01:50:20,760
like a nod had. Remember it
was gonna be a twist, so it

1731
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:26,199
couldn't sound like him in the first
episode of the show, right, Yeah,

1732
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:28,000
I guess, so, I guess, like I get it, it

1733
01:50:28,039 --> 01:50:31,199
would sound different, but it just
sounded like a stormtrooper versus like a Sith

1734
01:50:31,279 --> 01:50:35,840
user or something along those lines.
Yeah, I don't really love the helmet.

1735
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:41,880
I'm starting to see the copper more
than initially, Like I swear,

1736
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,960
it went through like a coloration change
as the season went on, Like I

1737
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:46,840
swear it was pitch black, but
it was also a dark sequence the first

1738
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,359
time that we saw it. But
yeah, I wasn't a big fan of

1739
01:50:50,399 --> 01:50:56,600
the smile and helmet overall. Like
the more exposure I got to it,

1740
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,840
I wasn't really being sold on it. I like the lightsaber, I like

1741
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:04,399
the cloak with the ripped arms,
but yeah, not a big fan.

1742
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:10,560
And I don't know, I kind
of like the idea of some sort of

1743
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,520
device that kind of blocks out the
force. It's really just a magneto rip

1744
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:23,479
with that helmet. But yeah,
that's a minor nitpick. Yeah, yeah,

1745
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:28,000
I'll go first because I think I'm
probably the lowests. I thought I

1746
01:51:28,039 --> 01:51:30,479
was gonna maybe give the show five, but I just can't. I'm gonna

1747
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:34,840
go four out of ten. I
can't pass the show just for writing alone.

1748
01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:43,279
A great moment a great A great
moment does not a great man a

1749
01:51:43,319 --> 01:51:45,199
great moment. I'm screwing it up. I'm screwing it like the writers here.

1750
01:51:45,239 --> 01:51:49,279
But a great moment a good series
does not make And that's the thing

1751
01:51:49,319 --> 01:51:54,800
here. It's just there's fun YouTube
moments and there is some like tol That's

1752
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,479
why it's like still four and maybe
I can maybe I'll even give you a

1753
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,399
four point five, but I just
can't pass it. Even maybe four point

1754
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,199
nine, but that even feel too
high. There's things in this that are

1755
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:04,840
great. There's performances that are great, there's moments that are great, there's

1756
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,840
concepts that are great, but there's
so much like I feel like there,

1757
01:52:11,159 --> 01:52:14,199
what's the fucking calling in Canada?
When it would you'd be in the river

1758
01:52:14,279 --> 01:52:17,560
and you're looking for gold in the
rocks and stuff like gold panning, it

1759
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,279
feels like that to me. We're
sure you might find some gold, but

1760
01:52:20,319 --> 01:52:24,119
it takes a long time and you
gotta go through a lot of rocks.

1761
01:52:24,119 --> 01:52:28,079
And that's the thing here where I
just it's frustrating because I think there is

1762
01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:31,199
a version of the show, even
with the things here, even not even

1763
01:52:31,199 --> 01:52:33,640
talking about my whole thing of reworking
being like oh the f now in the

1764
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:39,159
middle, I still think there's a
version of the show where changing just some

1765
01:52:39,279 --> 01:52:43,239
quality of writing, changing some focus
on certain characters' storylines, and then maybe

1766
01:52:43,279 --> 01:52:46,359
we're removing some But I think there
is bones for something great here. There's

1767
01:52:46,399 --> 01:52:48,720
bones that this could have been like
an and or we're at the end like

1768
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:53,880
holy shit, like they really came
out to play. But I just there's

1769
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,159
just too many times that when I
talk about something I like, then I

1770
01:52:56,199 --> 01:52:59,000
remember X, Y and Z,
I like, oh, this is how

1771
01:52:59,039 --> 01:53:00,439
we got here. And again it's
kind of like with episode four that people

1772
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:04,000
loved, I understood, but again
was the stakes and this episode did the

1773
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:09,000
same thing where it made me dislike
other episodes from before, like the flashback

1774
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,479
episode, I'll just skip that next
week. You know why, because in

1775
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,520
the first two minutes this episode,
soul tells me what happens in that episode,

1776
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,560
I don't need to see it.
So it just it just feels like

1777
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,399
there's a waste of time, and
it just feels like there's no urgency with

1778
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,279
these Star Wars shows, and I
just feel like that's why they're losing less

1779
01:53:23,279 --> 01:53:26,119
and less importance, where people feel
I don't need to watch them because it's

1780
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:29,720
just got they gotta and or season
two them there I can't wait, but

1781
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,439
they need some more hits. I
just really don't feel that confident at all.

1782
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,760
Really, I think I had said
like I was in a tough place

1783
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,600
because I said, like, oh, if obi Wan sucked, that was

1784
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,399
it for me. I was broken
And the tough thing with obi Wan was

1785
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:45,239
like in the middle where I Obi
wanted to me is much much better than

1786
01:53:45,279 --> 01:53:48,000
this some bounds, but that was
like a l I am still suck because

1787
01:53:48,039 --> 01:53:50,960
there's some really great things, but
it was kind of a some mess to

1788
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:57,319
get there along the way. This
is a mess with some good moments in

1789
01:53:57,359 --> 01:54:01,000
my opinion, So yeah, it
sucks because I was really looking forward this

1790
01:54:01,039 --> 01:54:03,880
one. I thought it set the
table to be something different, be something

1791
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:09,239
great, and it was not that
season two I would be there because there's

1792
01:54:09,279 --> 01:54:12,840
you know, I still like the
comuner. I said that was all well

1793
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,279
done as far as Osha getting there
for the most part. Of course,

1794
01:54:15,359 --> 01:54:17,279
Yeah, maybe a plagu is thing. So to me, it's just like

1795
01:54:17,319 --> 01:54:21,119
a if anyone ever asks like,
maybe if it gets really bad, I

1796
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:24,760
won't watch as I've done that shows
better if anyone ever asked me, It's

1797
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,680
just like a sports team where you
still gotta be with them through the bad

1798
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,800
years, and that's where I feel
like we are. We're we're in the

1799
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,560
bad years, and I'm just cheering
my team on to turn around and start

1800
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:39,800
winning some championships again. And I
thought Act like could be that, but

1801
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,920
it's not. And now with Skelton
Crew, I think that's gonna be like

1802
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,880
a fine show. Maybe Soca season
two, but then after that we have

1803
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,479
nothing announced, so I really don't
know what's next. I just think they

1804
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,720
need to end or season two of
course as well, but they just need

1805
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:56,159
to pick up their bootstraps and really
hunker down here because I think they need

1806
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,520
something great other than and Or,
because we know and are gonna be great.

1807
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:02,239
So that's what I'm saying. Four
ten feel for me sadly, it's

1808
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:11,720
a sad score. This is tough
for me because I'm gonna pass the show,

1809
01:55:12,439 --> 01:55:15,520
but like there's certain things in here
that like I don't even think our

1810
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:19,159
borerline unacceptable, Like I think it's
just straight up unacceptable. Like just just

1811
01:55:19,239 --> 01:55:23,560
with how all over the place they
were with me, and they just seem

1812
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:26,359
like they had no idea what the
fuck to do with this character When she's

1813
01:55:26,439 --> 01:55:30,720
like I'm gonna turn myself in Fuck
all the Jedi gotta kill Soul. Okay,

1814
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,399
Soul's going to I'm gonna I'm gonna
hand him in. It's like,

1815
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:38,359
okay, Osha, you fucking choke
the lights out of them, and like

1816
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,800
what like I'm gonna come with you. Oh no, just wipe my mind

1817
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,760
and I'll just I'll just get arrested. I guess like she just seems like

1818
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,319
an NPC type character that it doesn't
really matter what the fuck is going on

1819
01:55:48,399 --> 01:55:54,279
with her. That that really bothers
me. Like the whole situation with May,

1820
01:55:56,439 --> 01:56:00,399
I have like minor gripes with like
crime here, but like like he

1821
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:08,960
is a highlight of this show.
I like performances are definitely a thumbs up.

1822
01:56:09,399 --> 01:56:13,359
It's it's really like the writing.
I don't like how the Jedi portrayed

1823
01:56:13,479 --> 01:56:17,880
in here for the most part.
I like they're kind of bitches in my

1824
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,680
mind, But I also kind of
like when they're seen that way, because

1825
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:26,359
you know, they're they're boy scouts
and pencil push you know. I think

1826
01:56:26,359 --> 01:56:28,840
I think you should still have an
element where you want to be a Jedi

1827
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:30,000
for the show. Yeah, I
don't know if I want to be a

1828
01:56:30,039 --> 01:56:33,479
Jedi. No no, they don't. Like there's a lot of Jedi in

1829
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:36,840
here, a lot of no name
uh, you know, like characters that

1830
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:43,880
literally don't have names, like they're
just there for numbers. I don't know.

1831
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:48,840
I I think though, like my
expectations were somewhere going into it.

1832
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:53,479
After the first episode, I kinda
I kind of tempered them, but I

1833
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:57,560
still kind of got disappointed beyond that
part. And it's I think it's my

1834
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,039
own fault because I was just setting
myself up for for something of a big

1835
01:57:00,079 --> 01:57:03,520
surprise. I think it was great
to have Plegas finally in live action.

1836
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:09,720
That that's a really big character that
like, you know, gets name dropped

1837
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,520
a lot in the main series,
so to finally get him here, And

1838
01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:17,279
I could have seen it going really
bad if you like interacted with certain characters.

1839
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,880
So I'm glad that didn't happen.
You know. It's not like Venestra

1840
01:57:21,159 --> 01:57:25,920
and and end credit scene or like
the same scene where she goes to Coota,

1841
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,880
but it's like Plagas in there and
she's like, I got to something

1842
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,640
to tell you, master of like
some weird twist there that could have been

1843
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:35,680
intriguing. But no, I don't
really like that character. I'm not a

1844
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:40,399
big fan of the Witches, but
it's not like a big con either for

1845
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:45,159
me. I think though, like
as of right now, I'll give it

1846
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:50,159
like a like a low six,
like barely a six. The reason why

1847
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:55,560
I'm passing and at least giving it
that score is yeah, like like acting,

1848
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,239
I did, like, I mean
this, this is a big budget

1849
01:57:59,279 --> 01:58:03,800
show and it feels like that at
moments. It's no like HBO Game of

1850
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,439
Thrones House the Dragon level, but
like, you know, we shouted out

1851
01:58:08,479 --> 01:58:15,840
that CGI scene in space that looked
really stellar, and yeah, I think

1852
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:21,119
when they went to the Dark Side, it is lacking, but it was

1853
01:58:21,159 --> 01:58:25,520
still there. It was still something. It wasn't a straight up Jedi tale

1854
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,680
that I was scared the story was
gonna be. And I did like how

1855
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,880
May ended up or no, sorry, I did like how Osha ended up

1856
01:58:32,039 --> 01:58:35,560
on the Dark Side and going in
that trader. So I'm I'm kind of

1857
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:41,319
hopeful with the trajectory, but very
tempered expectations going forward because of what we

1858
01:58:41,399 --> 01:58:45,720
got here. I would love to
be surprised and just and I just say

1859
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:47,399
disappointed. I don't want to be
disappointed. I would love to be surprised

1860
01:58:47,479 --> 01:58:56,439
and disappoint me. And I don't
know, like I I can see I

1861
01:58:56,479 --> 01:59:00,239
can see shimmer, I can see
potential in in in this story with these

1862
01:59:00,319 --> 01:59:03,640
characters that we've been introduced, especially
now that Osha or fuck now that May

1863
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:10,239
is amnesia and we don't really have
to focus on her characters so much.

1864
01:59:10,279 --> 01:59:16,239
But yeah, six low six,
which is really sad compared to where we

1865
01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:19,239
were. Where was it twenty twenty
when we first saw this, and I'm

1866
01:59:19,239 --> 01:59:21,880
like, this is gonna be the
show Man, this is gonna be the

1867
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:26,319
show. Here we are and barely
six out of ten? That's that's very

1868
01:59:26,319 --> 01:59:31,079
disappointing. Phil. We hear you
typing away over there, typewriter, Yeah,

1869
01:59:31,159 --> 01:59:34,560
what is your score? And overall
thoughts before we get to the chat

1870
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,720
GPT, because I don't know if
we did a predictions cast Racken. I

1871
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,640
don't think we did, so that's
where you that's usually where we do chat

1872
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:45,119
GPT. But you you, uh, you scared me there for one because

1873
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:45,920
you're like, really we're doing it. I was like, of course you

1874
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:51,960
have to, you know, Oh
he's not ready, so I will.

1875
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,239
I almost got it. My I'm
typing out the act my own what I

1876
01:59:56,239 --> 02:00:02,199
want. Yeah, I'm not.
Actually, I think though this show ultimately

1877
02:00:03,039 --> 02:00:08,439
the writing is so very messy.
I'm I'm gonna sit probably like a seven

1878
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,960
out of ten. And I'm being
generous with that just because I like what

1879
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:15,399
they were doing with the finale with
some things. But that is also based

1880
02:00:15,479 --> 02:00:18,359
on the foundation that we do get
that season two. If we don't get

1881
02:00:18,399 --> 02:00:21,479
that second season, and I rewatched
this, I can see it. I

1882
02:00:21,479 --> 02:00:25,560
can see it dropping it back down
to a six, go for it.

1883
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:30,920
If Flag is not in this finale, is it still seven? It's a

1884
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,680
six and a half Vader Darth Maul
theory, right. Anytime you get one

1885
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:40,039
cameo for Taylor that doesn't swore up
Itch, it does. Sure it's not

1886
02:00:40,079 --> 02:00:42,640
alone too, like I'm sure like
a lot of Star Wars fans, I

1887
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,359
can't wait to see the online community
right now. I haven't even looked at

1888
02:00:45,399 --> 02:00:47,880
what the comments are, all right, I don't know. I'm gonna post

1889
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,960
your meme too on those communities.
Should yeah, you should have read yeah

1890
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:55,439
exactly years ago. Tay would say
no to that. That's why I had

1891
02:00:55,439 --> 02:00:58,640
to ask him. So it's just
oh yeah, oh yeah, it's it's

1892
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:04,800
evident at this point. So I
think with the messy writing, well,

1893
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:10,119
I definitely like Osha as a character
much more than I like may Some choices

1894
02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:12,520
are a little bit weird, but
I like how a lot of the actors

1895
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:15,279
and actresses really tried to bring their
a game. I wish that we got

1896
02:01:15,279 --> 02:01:19,880
a little bit more expansion on seeing
our Jedi do things like what. I

1897
02:01:20,079 --> 02:01:24,359
like seeing Kal Knaka fight, but
I didn't like how he was necessari find

1898
02:01:24,359 --> 02:01:28,279
the Jedi. But it's also cool
because you see him possessed by the witches.

1899
02:01:28,319 --> 02:01:30,560
So they got a lot of mixed
things and a lot of new interpretations

1900
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:33,079
going on, and I can see
why there's a lot of conflict in the

1901
02:01:33,079 --> 02:01:35,600
community. People are trying to figure
out where they stand a lot of these

1902
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:39,600
things because it's a lot of new
ideas, a lot of copied ideas that

1903
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,359
may be a little bit familiar,
and a lot of just things that are

1904
02:01:42,439 --> 02:01:46,800
very bold in terms of like the
writing choices. So I know I'm gonna

1905
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,720
rewatch this, and I look forward
to actually watching with my dad when I

1906
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:53,800
get them over. He comes over
for dinners and I usually pop on Star

1907
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:56,640
Wars shows and we binge watch them, So I'm excited for him to watch

1908
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,840
this because he'll I know he'll enjoy
it. He'll he'll get a kick out

1909
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,880
of it. So does he also
think Solo's a ten ten as I saw

1910
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:06,399
your Letterbox score the other day.
I love that movie. Every time I

1911
02:02:06,439 --> 02:02:09,720
watch it. It's just it's just
I put it on. It's like,

1912
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,920
man, this is just fun Star
Wars Adventure. I can just get behind

1913
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,479
this. It's great. I really
have a lot of fun with that.

1914
02:02:16,319 --> 02:02:20,960
So I'll have to ask him,
if you know, Dad, is Solo

1915
02:02:21,039 --> 02:02:27,199
Star Wars story ten to ten for
you? I hope we get that second

1916
02:02:27,239 --> 02:02:31,600
season. I really really do.
And yeah, it's just it's funny when

1917
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,800
you look at this show and how
they create new music for this show.

1918
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:40,920
While other shows like The Mandalaureate and
even Book with fet has certain musical notes

1919
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,680
and that I just love. I
love some of those tracks, but this

1920
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:46,039
show has some things that I really
do appreciate. But at its core,

1921
02:02:46,079 --> 02:02:50,159
it's even if you look at the
audio books for the Higher Public, they

1922
02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:56,560
only use John Williams' soundtracks right for
like the original trilogy and sometimes from the

1923
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:00,239
prequel trilogy. It's like, man's
that shit is just so good good,

1924
02:03:00,279 --> 02:03:03,359
And I as I've already said,
I've watched some people do like the Chimera

1925
02:03:03,479 --> 02:03:06,479
versus Jeckie fight, and they throw
that John Williams score on there. A

1926
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:13,279
man, it makes it ten times
more fucking like better, it's so much

1927
02:03:13,319 --> 02:03:16,399
better. House Dragon does. How
so Dragon use some of the tracks from

1928
02:03:16,399 --> 02:03:18,600
Game of Thrones, but then they
have their own music as well. Like

1929
02:03:19,079 --> 02:03:23,600
I'm the same way. As far
as the House Dragon used the theme song

1930
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:27,039
Game Thrones, it's like it just
brings you there, so like even if

1931
02:03:27,039 --> 02:03:29,600
the show would have started with a
little beats of the Star Wars theme,

1932
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,520
but they're just Disney. Star Wars
is like scared of John Williams music for

1933
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:35,039
some fucking reason. I don't know
why you own it, but it's just

1934
02:03:35,159 --> 02:03:38,720
yeah, I just I agree.
I wish there. Especially this is the

1935
02:03:39,399 --> 02:03:42,600
use some fan not even the John
william stuff of the original you some of

1936
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:46,439
the Phantom Menace like prequel scores or
like variations on right because that's close to

1937
02:03:46,439 --> 02:03:48,920
the era, or even though it's
something that's like okay, it's this,

1938
02:03:49,039 --> 02:03:53,399
but it's a little change, like
a good example, even though like it's

1939
02:03:53,439 --> 02:03:56,359
not because I think some of them
are Karme coffee, but kind of like

1940
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,079
I think it was Brian Tyler.
Did he do the Super Mario score?

1941
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:00,800
I think, yes, yes you
did. Yeah, and that's a good

1942
02:04:01,039 --> 02:04:03,119
version of good rendition. Again,
like I still think for me, I

1943
02:04:03,119 --> 02:04:05,720
didn't fight for Golden Geeks, is
that there are those scores that are more

1944
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:10,000
creative, but because he's going off
the original stuff. But still it's like

1945
02:04:10,239 --> 02:04:12,840
he would use some original stuff then
change up a little. So I wish

1946
02:04:13,039 --> 02:04:17,800
music wise, they would dive back
into of that original stuff. I agree,

1947
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:21,640
and it's just such a shame that
they don't. It's it's it's there

1948
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:25,960
for using. But yeah, I
digress. Yeah, So I just think

1949
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:28,920
that the show. I'm excited to
rewatch it, and hopefully I could pick

1950
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,279
up on some different things when I
do my rewatch. But yeah, it's

1951
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:36,039
it's gotta it's got to bring Plagus
back in for that season two. It

1952
02:04:36,039 --> 02:04:40,039
really really does. But like you
said, if they do it, they

1953
02:04:40,079 --> 02:04:44,760
need different writers because are they going
to ruin him? That totally freaks me

1954
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:45,920
out to think about it, and
I hope that's not the case because I

1955
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,319
don't want them to ruin him.
If they do use him, I'm still

1956
02:04:48,319 --> 02:04:53,800
worried about that. With Thrawn when
we get this Soca season too, and

1957
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:57,560
and I feel like that's a good
example of like you've already seen a divide

1958
02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:00,279
with that character, right, and
that again, I'd also say, like

1959
02:05:00,319 --> 02:05:02,319
with that show, it has some
good like there's some good episodes, but

1960
02:05:02,319 --> 02:05:05,720
it's not like the strongest writing.
So I think Plagas is a it's a

1961
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:09,520
it could be a minefield for them, but they're gonna step in it if

1962
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:12,399
it makes them some money, I
guess, right, So yeah, absolutely,

1963
02:05:13,159 --> 02:05:15,640
all right, give me another thirty
seconds here, almost done, Another

1964
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:19,720
thirty seconds to forty five seconds.
Kirkland, did you uh do you know

1965
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:24,199
who's uploading this one? Because whoever
does this one's not doing news tomorrow.

1966
02:05:24,279 --> 02:05:28,680
So that's the thing, Actually I
do. I do think news is yours,

1967
02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:32,119
mister Pats. I don't pitching it. It was Comic Con, wasn't

1968
02:05:32,119 --> 02:05:35,479
it. You were Comic Con.
Com Con you said, when you threaten

1969
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:42,000
me, You're like, well,
I'm gonna give you Comic Con with We

1970
02:05:42,039 --> 02:05:44,920
had a planned schedule and then two
days to before they're like, hey,

1971
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,359
you want to fuck it all up
and change everything. It's like, well,

1972
02:05:46,399 --> 02:05:49,720
we don't have much room to move
around. No, I said no,

1973
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,680
because there was a time where it's
like Thursdays gonna tables like pitching like

1974
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:57,399
three casts. I'm like, I
ain't fucking uploading ship because I upload Marble

1975
02:05:57,479 --> 02:06:00,279
Lions every Thursday. So it's like
I'm not uploading one of the three casts

1976
02:06:00,279 --> 02:06:03,159
and marvele lines because you guys want
to see Twisters a day early, which

1977
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:09,560
is not like I'm having. It's
not like, oh we got dead pull

1978
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,119
Wolverine a date early. It's not
like that, you know. So that's

1979
02:06:12,119 --> 02:06:15,960
where I was. So, but
I do think for news tomorrow, yeah,

1980
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,119
it's sure, Okay, there you
go, because I do think.

1981
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:24,159
I think last second, I think
we were talking about this last week where

1982
02:06:24,199 --> 02:06:26,760
I can't remember if you tell us
on the air, I did Game of

1983
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:29,119
Thrones because you were supposed to wake
up early and I did. So I

1984
02:06:29,159 --> 02:06:31,119
was like, and he had done
the Boys before it like, oh,

1985
02:06:31,159 --> 02:06:34,319
Acolyte, that's Kirkling coming up,
and then lo and behold, krookl is't

1986
02:06:34,319 --> 02:06:36,960
not Acolyte or any rest of the
cast. For the rest of the weeks.

1987
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,600
It's like this bastard knows at a
time, it's like, oh,

1988
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:43,840
you know what, I think I
might be tired here. So yeah,

1989
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:47,920
all I gotta go. Guys,
we'll see Thursday. Accolytes eure up and

1990
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,439
that's fine. He made us,
he made us late, so that's that

1991
02:06:50,479 --> 02:06:55,079
should be on Taylor soldiers, you
know, Taylor said. Taylor said right.

1992
02:06:55,159 --> 02:06:57,960
We asked him in the review will
but he's like right after the episode.

1993
02:06:58,359 --> 02:07:00,359
But his right aft tips. It
just means like whenever he finishes it,

1994
02:07:00,399 --> 02:07:06,199
I guess. So very different explanation
and kircling. You're not hot over

1995
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:11,239
there in long sleeves. I'm getting
warm. This is I was cold before

1996
02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:16,439
we started the cast, so I
threw on It's literally a onesie. I

1997
02:07:16,439 --> 02:07:20,319
thought it was a dress shirt this
whole time. Legit. Yeah, it

1998
02:07:20,319 --> 02:07:25,239
would be pretty cool dress shirt,
Tya. Did you ever confirm that you

1999
02:07:25,279 --> 02:07:27,560
hit a black Oh? I see? Did you ever confirm about your black

2000
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:30,319
dress shirt? Taylor? I got
one that can be potentially dirty. Yeah,

2001
02:07:30,359 --> 02:07:35,079
you just fall in grass. You're
whoa showing out some goods. Oh,

2002
02:07:35,119 --> 02:07:40,800
it's cockfall. It's like an open
fly. You're ready, Taylor,

2003
02:07:43,319 --> 02:07:47,039
He's not. It's pumping it out
keyboards, just getting abused over there.

2004
02:07:47,079 --> 02:07:50,960
So if people don't know, we
started this for funny enough Star Wars on

2005
02:07:51,039 --> 02:07:55,680
Mandalorian season three because I think we
were I think Taylor liked I. I

2006
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:59,439
think there was a sense of disappointment, so where I think Tya had this

2007
02:07:59,439 --> 02:08:01,199
idea like, oh, I want
to know what chat GPT would bring up,

2008
02:08:01,239 --> 02:08:03,479
and there is a good best of
that I suppose made last year,

2009
02:08:03,479 --> 02:08:07,079
but that made like Luke should with
his fleet. And then whether it's predictions

2010
02:08:07,279 --> 02:08:11,039
or the finale, we always do
a now you know, write something for

2011
02:08:11,079 --> 02:08:13,560
a chat GPT as far as the
show se if it's better or worse than

2012
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:18,600
the actual show. Sometimes they lead
to hilarious stuff. Other times it can

2013
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:20,079
just be the most boring shit ever. So we'll see. We've been doing

2014
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:22,199
these in a while, Tay,
you go get ready. You're doing one

2015
02:08:22,199 --> 02:08:26,640
tomorrow with dead Pool Maulverene as well, so I'm excited get ready for that

2016
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:30,640
one. So correctly, you want
to talk about the president of assassination,

2017
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:37,800
Now that to no joking presidential candidate. Yeah, but it was a former

2018
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,399
president, so you're always a president. It's like you're you know, I'm

2019
02:08:41,439 --> 02:08:46,279
just joking. We're not gonna talk
about that. We'll get demonetized. There's

2020
02:08:46,399 --> 02:08:48,920
been some good memes has been the
year, Like I said, we should

2021
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:52,279
have covered this election man as Canadians, fire stuff going on, don't use

2022
02:08:52,359 --> 02:08:58,960
violence everybody, well said, that's
on my tour, now what too are?

2023
02:09:01,039 --> 02:09:05,640
So he didn't. You don't understand
that joke. Mm hmm, correctly,

2024
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:09,319
don't understand the joke when he said
cancel the tour. Why do you

2025
02:09:09,359 --> 02:09:13,800
think I said that? It's because
I know about the Timberlake thing. Oh

2026
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,560
no, I don't. So quickly
for you, Taylor goes a couple of

2027
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:20,520
weeks ago and Justin Timberly got arrested
for his du I. There's a cop

2028
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:22,600
that didn't know who Justin Timberlake was. He's like a young cop, so

2029
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:26,439
he's rested him and he hasn't cough. And Justin like, you're gonna ruin

2030
02:09:26,479 --> 02:09:31,720
the tour and the cause, like
what tour? He's like the world tour

2031
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:37,359
that you've heard about that there was
memes galore that week of like what to

2032
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:41,000
You had seen the memes? Right, The theory that he got arrested because

2033
02:09:41,039 --> 02:09:46,119
his tour was doing well and then
he was cancelor for insurance reason. He's

2034
02:09:46,159 --> 02:09:48,680
still on tour though he's doing because
people got hype that he got arrested.

2035
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:56,319
It's like ship all right for the
tour? What tour the world? Okay?

2036
02:09:58,119 --> 02:10:00,800
This is I guess pumping out a
lot of good here. Okay,

2037
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:09,119
So the spite kills Qui gon Jin
so Star Wars Acolyte, Shadows of the

2038
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:16,720
Force, Episode one, Echoes of
Betrayal. Vernestra Row trains May, who

2039
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:20,960
struggles with fragmented memories of her past. Jedi. So you said Sinestra Row

2040
02:10:22,279 --> 02:10:26,239
Vernestra Okay, So she's okay,
So say that sentence again. Sorry I

2041
02:10:26,279 --> 02:10:28,319
was, I was confused by the
last name. I caught off guard.

2042
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:31,479
Vernestra Road trains May, who struggles
with fragmented memories of her past. The

2043
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:37,760
Jedi Council grapples with the aftermath.
Is this season two? So basically,

2044
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:41,560
if you want to what prompt I
did, I I typed out literally from

2045
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:45,880
episode one, episode eight. You
could hear me typing away of just what

2046
02:10:46,039 --> 02:10:48,000
happens, and I said, give
me a sequel to this. So you

2047
02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:54,600
type the synopsis of all I typed
a brief brief that's not your words per

2048
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,359
minute is no, because it's not. It doesn't have the information right.

2049
02:10:56,399 --> 02:11:00,239
It goes up to like twenty twenty
one, so it doesn't know this show

2050
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:03,239
exists. So I gave it,
like I gave it the concept of what

2051
02:11:03,279 --> 02:11:09,760
season one is and that. So
it's basically usually do what's the finale?

2052
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:13,279
But now we're not getting that.
We're getting the season two fra Yeah no,

2053
02:11:13,439 --> 02:11:15,560
sorry, I called the season two. I didn't call the finale.

2054
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:20,079
But here you go, you get
season two. So one job and he's

2055
02:11:20,079 --> 02:11:26,960
plugging me for fifteen minutes. Still
wrong. The Jedi Council grapples with the

2056
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:31,159
aftermath of Master Soul's death and the
allegations against him. Meanwhile, Osha,

2057
02:11:31,239 --> 02:11:37,319
now Kimer's apprentice, undergoes intense dark
side training. Yeah scratch me again.

2058
02:11:39,399 --> 02:11:45,960
Uh. He goes to mask secretly
darths Plagas. Did you did you?

2059
02:11:46,119 --> 02:11:50,720
N I put his name in there. You're leading the witness on this time.

2060
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:56,479
I swear I'm not secretly. Darth
Plagas infiltrates the Jedi order to the

2061
02:11:56,479 --> 02:12:01,119
guys of a political advisor Yoda another
this is this is where it gets crazy,

2062
02:12:01,159 --> 02:12:03,800
Yoa. It expectedly returns from a
secret mission with a massive Republic fleet,

2063
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:09,000
raising questions of concerns among the Jedi. I don't know why I like

2064
02:12:09,079 --> 02:12:13,239
that, we're coming back to the
fleet, and so Yoda goes on the

2065
02:12:13,239 --> 02:12:16,640
Michigan with the fleet and all the
other Jedi like they're quite They're like,

2066
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:24,520
what the hell's Yeah, he's gonna
overthrow the Republic? Okay? Car destroyers

2067
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:28,840
or are they like those stupid ships
Fromrise of Skywalker that are like mini death

2068
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:33,159
stars? Remember they have the power? Oh? Yeah. The episode ends

2069
02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:35,520
with Vernestra and May discovering a clue
that leads them to an ancient Sith temple.

2070
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:41,760
Episode two, Whispers in the Dark, Vernestra and May journey to the

2071
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:45,800
Sith Temple, encountering traps and illusions
designed to test the resolve theyn, cover

2072
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:50,199
ancient Sith artifacts, and learn more
about Kimer's plans. He go damasks So's

2073
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:54,079
distress with the Jedi Council. Back
at the Jedi Temple, a young Jedi

2074
02:12:54,199 --> 02:12:58,600
named Eli investigates the true circumstances of
Soul's death. Did you give them that

2075
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:01,880
name? No? No, that's
made up. Which is funny about episode

2076
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,680
titles. This episode is still on
Disney Plus, is still just called episode

2077
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:07,800
eight. There is no title for
this one. It's it episode out now

2078
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:11,720
or whatever. No description too.
Yeah, minds his Episode eight. Watched

2079
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:15,880
the episode, now that's yeah,
there you go. Yeah, so young

2080
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:20,800
Jedi Eli investigates the true circumstances of
Soul's death, suspecting a deeper conspiracy.

2081
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:24,359
Yoda briefs the Council on his mission, hinting at a looming threat. The

2082
02:13:24,399 --> 02:13:28,800
episode ends with mas Kannada arriving at
the Jedi Temple with urgent information. I

2083
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,800
like, the version of Venestra tells
him about this threat, So what does

2084
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:35,800
Yoda do? Instead tells the counsel, he goes and gets a fleet and

2085
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,399
brings him back, like we're ready
for the Sith guys. Here we go.

2086
02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:43,319
Yeah, Mass Canada arrives at the
Jedi Temple. That's kind of cool.

2087
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,760
Episode three shouts the past. Osha
faces a more dilemma. She witnesses

2088
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:52,960
the suffering Kimyer's actions cause May has
visions of her past, leading her to

2089
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,680
doubt her current path. Vanestra seeks
counsel from Yoda, who warns of a

2090
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:01,319
rising darkness. He goes to Mass. He is on it. He go

2091
02:14:01,439 --> 02:14:03,880
to Mass manipulates key Jedi, steering
them away from discovering his true identity.

2092
02:14:05,319 --> 02:14:07,520
I mean, there's no threat for
he go to Mask. He's just fucking

2093
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:13,239
shut up, though it seems he'd
better if he wasn't a political advisor right

2094
02:14:13,279 --> 02:14:16,000
now, he'd be better to stay
with the Cave. But yeah. Eli

2095
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:20,439
in covers evidence linking Kimir to the
recent Jedi deaths and mass Kanada reveals a

2096
02:14:20,479 --> 02:14:26,640
hidden alliance between Kaimeir and a shadowy
Sith figure. Episode four, Rising Storm,

2097
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:30,000
the Jedi Council, pressure by the
Senate, sends a team a team

2098
02:14:30,039 --> 02:14:33,960
to apprehend Kimer. Vernestra, May
and Eli joined the mission. Osha,

2099
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:37,079
torn between her loyalty to Kymer and
her bond with May, secretly aids the

2100
02:14:37,159 --> 02:14:41,640
Jedi. A fierce battle ensues,
resulting in Kymyer's narrow escape and Eli being

2101
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:46,359
severely injured. He go damask because
Darth Plagas manipulates Osha, exploiting her doubts,

2102
02:14:46,439 --> 02:14:48,560
and the episode ends with a surprise
attack on the Jedi Temple by Dark

2103
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:58,880
Side acolytes, leading to a massive
battle. The show Caddy Money is still

2104
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:07,119
like Millennia, You like a thousand
Sith. It's like the end of Night

2105
02:15:07,119 --> 02:15:11,119
Over Republic when you've got to deal
with Basila, and just like all these

2106
02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:15,399
fIF that's great and what what o't
jump? Oh, He's gonna spend half

2107
02:15:15,399 --> 02:15:18,680
the season just like like manipulating people. And then one episode he's like,

2108
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:22,680
ah, fuck it, let's just
like terrors attack the Jedi Council. Great,

2109
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:26,399
love it. Fans are gonna love
it. Continue. Oh. Episode

2110
02:15:26,439 --> 02:15:31,399
five a light in the darkness as
Eli recuperates, May confronts Osha, leading

2111
02:15:31,439 --> 02:15:35,720
to an emotional reunion and a revelation
of Ocean's internal struggle. Ronestra discovers the

2112
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:39,960
full extent of Krimeer's alliance with Darth
Plagas he go, Damask increases his influence

2113
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:45,520
within the Jedi feeding misinformation. Yoda
mobilizes their Republic fleet for a preemptive strike.

2114
02:15:46,319 --> 02:15:54,680
That's preemptive. Accolytes came to the
Council. We will attack them first.

2115
02:15:54,720 --> 02:16:03,159
We will just wake up from a
fucking app But what's going on here?

2116
02:16:03,239 --> 02:16:09,640
Keeps hitting them with why I don't
remember? That's why. That's we

2117
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:13,039
figured out in Phantom menas. That's
why they don't remember. Chimier mind wipes

2118
02:16:13,119 --> 02:16:20,439
them again. That's we got it. There we go so where? Yeah,

2119
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:26,680
Yoda mobilize the Public fleet for preampt
to strike against Sith strongholds. There's

2120
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:35,440
strong buildings. Sorry. The episode
ends with the Jedi preparing for assault on

2121
02:16:35,479 --> 02:16:39,680
Chimer's base on Mass Canada, and
our allies provide crucial support. Episode six

2122
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:46,799
the Siege uh The Jedi launch and
assault on Chymer's stronghold. Facing fierce resistance

2123
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:52,639
from Dark Side acolytes and Sith constructs, Osha, now fully were Chimer's manipulations,

2124
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:56,040
decides to help the Jedi from within. The battle reaches a climax when

2125
02:16:56,079 --> 02:17:00,360
Brenestru confronts Chimer in a duel.
While May and Osha faced their darkest years.

2126
02:17:00,399 --> 02:17:03,920
He goes to mask revealed his Darth
Plagas, intervenes and battles Yoda in

2127
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:13,360
the lights. We haven't seen the
Sith of Millennia. You want to just

2128
02:17:13,399 --> 02:17:18,520
have dark fucking Lightsaber fights with dark
Plagas over there sixty years before young Annie

2129
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:24,280
shows up. Oh my god,
I would love to see the fan he

2130
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:28,239
just lose her fucking mind. The
episode ends with Kaider narrowly escape, of

2131
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:33,399
course, and Osha being captured by
the Jedi damn. Episode seven, Truth

2132
02:17:33,399 --> 02:17:41,520
is revealed. During the duel,
Kimer reveals his plans to review overthrow Darth

2133
02:17:41,559 --> 02:17:46,239
Plagas. Osha sacrifices herself to save
May, breaking free from the dark sized

2134
02:17:46,239 --> 02:17:50,520
influence. Vernestra defeats Kimer, but
he escapes, vying revenge, and he

2135
02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:54,239
goes to Mask. Realizing his plans
are at risk, decides to take more

2136
02:17:54,239 --> 02:17:56,520
direct action against the Jedi. The
Jedi and covered the extent of the assistant

2137
02:17:56,520 --> 02:18:01,920
filtration within the Republic. He wants
more access. He's attacked the Council and

2138
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:03,920
he and lights in front of the
Yoda. How more can he get?

2139
02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:09,000
Well enough? Okay? Continue?
The Jedi uncovered the extent of the system

2140
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:13,799
infiltration within our public mass, Canatter
and allies helped the Jedi decipher ancient Sith

2141
02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:20,079
text, revealing a hidden Sith fleet. Episode eight, Dawn of a New

2142
02:18:20,159 --> 02:18:24,879
Order. The Jedi Council on the
Senate confront the revelations of Sith influence.

2143
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:28,479
May, deeply affected by osha sacrifice, vows to honor sister by continuing the

2144
02:18:28,479 --> 02:18:31,959
fight against the Sith. Vernestra proposes
reforms within the Jedi order to prevent future

2145
02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:37,319
corruption. He go damask fully revealed
a Darth Plagas begins to make his moves

2146
02:18:37,319 --> 02:18:41,040
against the Jedi, amassing his hidden
Sith Fleet, and the episode ends with

2147
02:18:41,079 --> 02:18:45,520
a massive space battle between the republic
Fleet led by Yodah and Plagas' Sith Fleet,

2148
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:50,360
setting the stage for a showdown.
Why fleets. Why is he on

2149
02:18:50,399 --> 02:18:54,000
the cockpit calling all those out?
Oh? God? So they yeah,

2150
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:58,120
they they had their lightsaber battle and
then they retreated to these massive fleets to

2151
02:18:58,159 --> 02:19:05,680
fight the battle for them. We
need a post credit scene here. That's

2152
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:07,920
something, man. Yeah, there's
a lot of Sith action for not seeing

2153
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:16,120
Sith in a long time. So, oh my god, constructs too,

2154
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:20,559
Like what does that entail? It's
like a giant what was the name of

2155
02:19:20,559 --> 02:19:26,239
the thing in the old Republic I
told Republic? Oh yeah, when you

2156
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:30,200
see it, like petrifies you.
Yeah, stuff like that. I think

2157
02:19:31,239 --> 02:19:33,200
the store, yeah, stuff like
that. Even the death start, I'd

2158
02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:37,639
say, as a Sith construct,
just a bunch of death stores with the

2159
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:43,879
fleet. Okay, so it's a
millennia. Uh. The screen fades from

2160
02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:48,239
black to reveal a desolate, war
torn landscape. The remnants of the space

2161
02:19:48,319 --> 02:19:52,520
battle between the Republic Fleet and plagas
The Sith Fleet are strewn across the ground.

2162
02:19:52,559 --> 02:19:54,200
Fires burned the distance, and the
eerie silence is broken only by the

2163
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:58,360
occasional crackle of flames and the distant
rumble of collapsing structures. In the foreground,

2164
02:19:58,399 --> 02:20:03,440
A hooded figure moves stealthily among the
wreckage, their face obscure by shadows.

2165
02:20:03,559 --> 02:20:07,200
As they approach the large fallen Syth
cruiser, the figure pauses, sensing

2166
02:20:07,239 --> 02:20:11,520
something. The camera pans around to
reveal a small, flickering hologram of Darth

2167
02:20:11,559 --> 02:20:16,639
Plagus setting atop a makeshift pedestal.
The Plagus the Jedi have won this battle,

2168
02:20:16,639 --> 02:20:20,040
but the war's far from over.
The hood figure lowers their hood,

2169
02:20:20,079 --> 02:20:24,239
revealing the scarred face of a battle
hardened scythe Acolyte. They kneel before the

2170
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:28,680
hologram and their eyes burning with a
mix of fear and devotion. What are

2171
02:20:28,719 --> 02:20:33,920
your orders, my lord? Plagas's
hologram flickers ominously, his gaze piercing through

2172
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:37,200
the darkness. We will treat to
the outer rim, where the Jedi will

2173
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,159
not find us. There we will
rebuild our strength and bide our time.

2174
02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:41,879
And the moment is right, we
will strike back with the vengeance that will

2175
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:46,200
bring the galaxy to its knees.
The camera shifts to a close up of

2176
02:20:46,239 --> 02:20:50,239
the Acolyte's face, capturing the twisted
smirk that spreads across their lips. The

2177
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:52,719
scene cuts to a wide shot of
the desolate battlefield, the fire still burning

2178
02:20:52,719 --> 02:20:58,000
as the acolyte rises and begins to
walk away and remember Plagas says, the

2179
02:20:58,079 --> 02:21:03,079
darkness is always watching. The camera
zooms out, revealing the act like disappearing

2180
02:21:03,079 --> 02:21:05,040
into the shadows of the Hologram fades, and the screen goes to black with

2181
02:21:05,079 --> 02:21:13,200
the haunting sound of Plagus laughing.
So he's like defeated. He's like defeated

2182
02:21:13,239 --> 02:21:16,000
at the n the end, he's
just laughing. Yeah. Yeah, it's

2183
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:18,799
like the laugh through, like the
Hologram two. This isn't sound like good.

2184
02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:22,879
I love. Yeah. So that's
a story where he's in secret,

2185
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decides to attack twice they lose.
So his plans, well, we're gonna

2186
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go back in secret, then we'll
come back and do it. So all

2187
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:31,600
right, I wonder how this leads
to a phantom menace? Oh, I

2188
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:35,719
wonder. Yeah, they'll expand season
two, but uh yeah, let's hope

2189
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some of that doesn't happen. I
don't need to go to with a fleet

2190
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and his armor and everything, but
leading the charge fighting plague that a sith

2191
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:48,040
Stronghold. Yeah, pall A showing
that is it. That is your act

2192
02:21:48,159 --> 02:21:52,879
like review. We'll be back maybe
in December of Star Wars stuff because I

2193
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think that's the Reamber when they're dropping
a skeleton crew, but we don't know

2194
02:21:54,639 --> 02:21:58,479
for sure. And yeah, prosty
will not be boring. May the Force

2195
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be with a few. Oh and