WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:07.599 It's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Stuff went numb. That 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:09.439 shouldn't go numb, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, 3 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.679 what is he? No? I don't, No, you don't and Cole 4 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.000 holds Marney Windfield. It was kind of an awkward thing. He's like, 5 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.519 would you guys want come along? Can you get away to come to the 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:28.079 island. I'm like, yeah, we just got back from there. It 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:33.159 is Sunday, April twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. My name is Corey 8 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.399 Winfield. My name is Martie Winfields. Man. This is the two seventeen 9 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:40.840 Recovery Podcast. I can't believe it's almost May. I know, it's insane. 10 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.119 Speaking of May, it's probably gonna be a good month for us. 11 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.280 It's going to be a life changing month. Yes, yes, And we'll 12 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.960 get into more details about May and just a little bit. But first of 13 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:58.079 all, we're going to be able to claim another person on our taxes, 14 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:02.560 so it'll really help us out financially. I think a lot of peoples, 15 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:06.760 Oh no, kids are expensive. Yeah, sends what you're buying them, 16 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.959 right? I don't. I love that. That's where you go with it. 17 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:12.959 I mean the baby shower that wasn't a baby shower, that wasn't cheap 18 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.840 at all. No, which still blows my mind. Like, I mean, 19 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.599 I guess it's nice to have family around and our ours was a little 20 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.400 different. And we talked about that last episode that we did, but yeah, 21 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.040 since then, I don't think we've talked about going to the Tigers game. 22 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.120 That was a lot of fun. That was a ton of fun. 23 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.200 Everybody was sick and sounded sick. And this is like we've now started actually 24 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.079 for the first time feeling a little better. M hm, So now we're 25 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.480 able to do podcasting again. Yeah, I was. I wasn't feeling well 26 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:46.840 for like three weeks. It was horrible. So I'm just now kind of 27 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:51.920 over like over it. Yeah, it was. It was something, man, 28 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.040 it was crazy, And that's why I think that I think it was 29 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.879 a different like form of COVID, maybe because everybody was getting it, Like 30 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.799 the radio station people I listened to in Dallas, we're getting it. Tyrone 31 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:10.759 got it wherever he is in the world, And it just seemed like like 32 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.319 it was happening to everybody, and it's like, oh, this is like 33 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:19.639 COVID. But we did COVID testing and it didn't show up. But if 34 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.599 I was going to make a new COVID, I would make sure that the 35 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.039 old COVID tests wouldn't catch it. Just me being the evil genius that I 36 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:29.120 am, I would do stuff like that. But yeah, so we're feeling 37 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:32.919 better now. We can actually talk. We sound like people can listen without 38 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.400 going oh, they just sound sick. Man, I got to turn this 39 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.360 off. But the Tiger's game was really cool. We had a lot of 40 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:44.639 fun down there thanks again to the Detroit tigerstroke and sew with tickets. We 41 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:49.159 helped the recovery community in Traverse City have a little fun in recovery doing some 42 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:54.520 normal stuff and to my knowledge, nobody will not to smoke weed or drink 43 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.960 beer. So it was good. Yeah, it's a win when even though 44 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.159 the Tigers didn't win, it was still a good time. And Kim, 45 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:08.159 who's our employee, she was on a mission to get a ball because our 46 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:14.159 son, Parker's and your belly, but technically this is what's his first game. 47 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.319 I mean he was present, right, he was there. He was 48 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.639 there, so Kim was like, I'm gonna get him a ball. So 49 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.599 she was on a mission and then at the end she finally got a ball 50 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:29.280 for him, Yeah, and gave it to us the next we following Monday 51 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.840 or whatever at work. So that was pretty cool a game ball for for 52 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.759 Parker and the fact that she would do that for him, you know, 53 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.199 or for us, you know, that's pretty cool. And that's what happens 54 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:44.000 in recovery, you know, you start thinking about other people. Yeah, 55 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.400 it was super meaningful and very touching. Yeah, and it was probably very 56 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:51.800 touching for her too, And like I said, to do something for somebody 57 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.240 else, that's what it's about. Was she was on a mission though. 58 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:00.319 For sure she made the Jumbo Tron. We made the Jumbo Tron for times 59 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:06.280 and her like holding the ball up, made the Jumbo Tron. Yeah, 60 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:11.280 so that was good. So again thanks to the Detroit Tigers, and we 61 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:16.160 appreciate that. The UFAM rallies coming up on the sixteenth, and that's going 62 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.279 to be Lancing, Michigan. You family're like, what the hell was that. 63 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.800 It's Unite to Face Addiction Michigan. And every year they put on this 64 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.920 rally and we have it We're not we, but they have it at the 65 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:32.279 Capitol Building in Lancing to kind of show like, Hey, there are people 66 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.920 in recovery, and these could be people that don't or do vote for you. 67 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.399 So when you're up there writing them policies, think of us because we're 68 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:46.199 in recovery and we're here. Yeah, so it kind of shows them. 69 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.199 Wow, a lot of people showed up for that, like maybe we should 70 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.319 pay attention to this, right, you know. And it's just on a 71 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:57.000 Thursday, you know. So it's just like, how many people can really 72 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.480 get away for that. I don't know, not everybody in recovery clearly, 73 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.000 but right, if you can, I should. I don't think we ever. 74 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.639 I don't know if we've ever got an idea of numbers. I don't 75 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:12.199 know how they actually even get that information. But for the most part, 76 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.680 I mean that the whole capital, like front of the build, the building 77 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.560 is full, yeah, I mean not you know, shoulders shoulder, but 78 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:25.920 it's busy. Yeah, there's a lot of people, and I think there'll 79 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.199 be more this year. I think so too. But it's it's fun. 80 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.560 I'll be m seeing it, which is a huge honors amazing. Yeah. 81 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.920 We did a little practice video the other day which I was going to work 82 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.680 on today, but then I have to learn a whole new program because we're 83 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.800 at the home office today and oh you're one of your funny goofy. Yeah, 84 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.720 I overheard bits and pieces. It would probably be best just made it 85 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:58.480 to a blooper reel, probably because yeah, too much, too many parts 86 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.600 for Justin to alignes that he had the improv It's cute and I'm glad that 87 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.480 you guys have fun doing stuff like that. We did and it was and 88 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:11.000 it should reflect that in whatever video we put together. But I can probably 89 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.000 do it from work because like, if I do it from here, it's 90 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.720 like okay, which I'm gonna have to study this program anyway, because the 91 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.680 other program I have is only Windows based, because I'm like, it doesn't 92 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:24.720 work on this computer I got because it's only Windows based, and I was 93 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:30.399 like, what, it's stupid. So I can learn it, which I 94 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.199 will have to eventually, but it seems like it'd be easier for me to 95 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.040 put it together on a program I know. But watch for that soon. 96 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:44.439 The speakers, I think. I reached out to Christian from Lifeboat Recovery and 97 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.800 Lancing and asked him if I could interview the speakers they're going to be speaking, 98 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:51.600 and he said, I'll get back to you, but he hasn't, 99 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:57.160 I mean prior to Yeah, that's a good idea. And then oh, 100 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.879 well, my friend Rob, who who was in room two seventeen with me 101 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:05.000 and on the very first like ten episodes of the podcast he was my co 102 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:12.279 host. He said he knows Isamora. I went to school with her or 103 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.560 something, he said, but he said he knows her and she's a very 104 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:19.399 cool person. So she's going to be speaking. I guess she's from Alpina 105 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:24.079 or lives over there in Alpina, somewhere on the way other cross the side 106 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.160 of the state from us and where we are in Travers City, Michigan. 107 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.360 But it'd be interesting to get her on I think I have friends on our 108 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:36.759 Facebook too. I don't know. I'm speaking of Facebook. Aren't you glad 109 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:42.360 that you didn't burn too many bridges on that I had? I really had 110 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.160 no presence on Facebook for the most part. I was not consistent. I 111 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.399 am more consistent with Facebook today than I ever was. And I know Facebook's 112 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:58.279 like even the uncool social media now apparently i've heard from the younger generations is 113 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:03.800 that it's like the old people bull social media good. But I never was. 114 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.839 I mean I would post like sporadically and even then like very outdated, 115 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.800 and I never got on there to check anything. I never messenger or anything 116 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:20.439 like the pictures. This is love that I had a handful of pictures on 117 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:28.519 there. It's yeah, likely, but it's okay. Though. I don't 118 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:35.039 think I've ever like what after businesses before, Like there's some one called og 119 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.200 and E which is like Oklahoma Gas and Electric Company. Not a fan of 120 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.799 them, and I would say things to them that wasn't very nice, but 121 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.559 I don't really like go F you and stuff like that. Yeah, I 122 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.799 never did any of that. No, I don't even post really today the 123 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.919 student nor im like and I'm saying his name because he tagged me in one 124 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.879 of his posts and he's like f you and then if you Corey Winfield. 125 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.559 But it did none of it made any I really don't understand why he was 126 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:09.039 saying fu to me. I propostly did not. I mean, I don't 127 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.559 know. I chose not to investigate that just because oh there's an investigating need, 128 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.440 but it just it just posted. It makes sense. But I'm just 129 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.799 saying, like, be careful what you do on Facebook. And I know 130 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.799 when you get drunk when you get all high and not you. I'm just 131 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.600 saying, like people in general, it's hard to remember what you do, 132 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:33.960 and it's really hard to control yourself and just be careful though, you know, 133 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.799 these are one of them lessons. If that's someone, if you're like 134 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.759 one of those people and you're in and out of early recovery, maybe it's 135 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.039 best to to stay off Facebook, you know, because you'll burn some bridges 136 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:46.840 down the road. Oh but I was drunk and I was messed up. 137 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:52.000 You know, it doesn't matter. You're not my friend anymore. I deleted 138 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.080 you. You know, I didn't block him. But like there's other people 139 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.200 I've just had this straight up block because they'll they'll say stuff like that, 140 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:58.840 and I'm like, dude, I didn't do nothing to you don't even know 141 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:03.240 he You are like the one guy that was like Corey Winfield's soup with fifteen 142 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:11.600 thousand women what like that's insane, Like I just I don't know, like 143 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.399 when people do stuff like that, which I again maybe I did. I 144 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:22.759 know there was one I did that was pretty stupid. But for just going 145 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.200 after somebody, just just be careful. Well, we talked a little bit 146 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.480 about this the other day. And I mean it's something, it's the it's 147 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:37.399 the addict behavior, and people are not in their right space of mind and 148 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.000 they're not in a healthy space in their life. And I think a lot 149 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.559 of it stems from the shame and gil that they feel about where they're at 150 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.240 right. So it's not feeling good about your actions, and whether it's subconsciously 151 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.919 or consciously, is you want to lash out and be angry, and at 152 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.440 that juncture, it's makes sense to yell at other p people. And that's 153 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.879 why a lot of it doesn't even make any sense usually is because it's not 154 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.360 really directed in any kind of sensible fashion. It's more just like I'm angry 155 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.200 and I'm just going to say f you to whoever it is that is on 156 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.799 the list on the screen in front of me, you know, because I'm 157 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:22.240 mad at myself and you know, so not that that makes it okay, 158 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.279 but at least it to me. That's kind of like where I try to 159 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.480 make sense of it all. And you know, those people are just sick 160 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.200 and they need to get they need to get better. I love social media, 161 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.799 you know, yeah, it's and it is what it is, but 162 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.399 just be careful if you're out there and you're like, oh, I thought 163 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.399 about posting this. Maybe just stay off your Facebook, you know, stay 164 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.000 after your Twitter. You're old person like me. Staff those things. Now, 165 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.559 TikTok they got to sell the company, which I just this whole thing 166 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.559 is I saw a little bit about that. Yeah, the US government's like, 167 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.840 you guys, your company that you can't operate in the US because you're 168 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.559 in China and you're own by China and you're spine on people. I'm like, 169 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:11.559 oh, like you do US government. Okay, Like this doesn't make 170 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:15.440 sense to me, but TikTok for me is very confusing. I don't really 171 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.639 know what I'm supposed to take videos of. Like I've posted some of our 172 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.080 like funny videos on there, but I really don't know. Like I don't 173 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.240 a I don't have time to just like, hey, let me wear this 174 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.720 hat and then like snap my fingers and I'm in a different hat or shirt. 175 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.799 That's so cool, Okay, I don't have a booty like that, 176 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.240 you know, Like that's all I see is a whole on I see a 177 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.559 lot of funny baby stuff that's cute, but other than that, it's just 178 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.559 like booties and dancing and there are some punny kid videos too, but the 179 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.200 baby and the cat I do like those, But you can get those on 180 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.159 YouTube. You can get those every other places, you know. But and 181 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.759 you can waste a lot of time on that. I'm sure you can vouch 182 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.879 for that at the time. But I just don't understand what I'm when I'm 183 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:07.159 supposed to make, so I'm not a content creator when it comes to that 184 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:11.240 kind of thing. So that's probably a good thing. M It's one less 185 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.720 thing that would take up your time. Could you imagine me to run around 186 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.440 the office? Hold on, guys, Yeah, we gotta do help these 187 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.960 people get this grant written. But hold on, I'm doing this talk video 188 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.879 real quick. Yeah, I have no interest. And actually, I mean 189 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:31.399 social media in general is a is a problematic for especially the like teenage generation, 190 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:37.559 and right now is the importance that they place on that you know, 191 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.840 on social media in general, and the time that they spend on it is 192 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:46.039 taking away from doing other healthy activities. Literally people can be in adults too, 193 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:52.120 adults too, but people can literally sit there and be like scrolling through 194 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:58.559 stuff for hours and hours. That's not productive and in their life, they're 195 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:05.120 not exercising they're not interacting with other human beings and developing or you know, 196 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:13.120 working on relationships. It's just but it can we use in your favor if 197 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.840 done correctly. Say example, you're applying for a job. I know for 198 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.279 a fact employers will look at your social media. Now, if you have 199 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.279 a TikTok on there with babies and cats, they'll be like, okay, 200 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.320 or we have some wild as stuff. They're gonna be like, Okay, 201 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.720 this dude's gonna or this woman, this person whoever is going to waste a 202 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.639 lot of time on TikTok looks like so probably you gotta take that conseneration. 203 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.879 You are their Facebook and they're like, F this, F that, F 204 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:46.480 Corey Winfield. I mean, I wouldn't hire you. Somebody else who's like 205 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.960 F Correy Winfield might. But if you have like just pictures of your kids 206 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.080 and hey, this is you know, a picture from Christmas, if it's 207 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.399 a responsible adult one. And I'm not knock getting a younger generation or younger 208 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:05.879 people, because the they have some good adult ones. But just keep in 209 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.159 mind that is you want to throw out there to F this and F that 210 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.039 and high Gritch and Whitmer have something to back that up with because I did 211 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.960 leave her a little something today. Well, my thoughts are. My thoughts 212 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.879 are is that your Facebook is a representation of you, and so if you're 213 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:30.200 putting stuff on there, just be careful because that's how people will. It's 214 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.399 looking at what you what you value, right, So it's showing how you 215 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:39.000 handle things. It's showing what you value. It's showing what you spend your 216 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.759 time on. You know, it's showing your interests. It's showing your things 217 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.960 you aren't interested in. Maybe, it's showing what you spend your time doing. 218 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.679 Maybe because it'll talk about you know, people will post like recipes or 219 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.759 whatever, and it can show who you interact with. So all of those 220 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:07.320 things put together is just be mindful of that. Yeah, just be mindful 221 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.679 of it. If you can't repeat it on a podcast, then you shouldn't 222 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.000 do it. So this is why I posted the Big Gretch today because she 223 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:22.840 posted a picture of herself at the NFL Draft which is in Detroit, and 224 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.440 she's up there whatever Big Gretch is what she calls herself, and she was 225 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:33.679 like big Gretch reporting for duty, and she was announcing the fourth round draft 226 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.159 pick, not the first, second, third, but their fourth round draft 227 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.080 pick. There's seven rounds, but you're important, big gretch. But anyway, 228 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.440 so I just wrote on there, I said, please take sports betting 229 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.679 seriously, and please get in front of the destruction that's happening in people's lives. 230 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:55.360 Come on, gretch, governor responsibly. Get it. It's like gamble 231 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:00.320 responsibly and drink responsibly. Yeah, governor responsibly. Just covered in so that 232 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.759 you're okay with governing, because that's what they say about gambling. Just gamble 233 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:07.720 enough that you can lose. Just just gamble enough that you're comfortable with losing. 234 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:12.880 Just gamble responsibly. It's like part of their messaging. And then I 235 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:17.440 said, or call a number that can't help you if you start having trouble 236 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:22.640 with governing. You don't seem impressed. But there's one person that liked it. 237 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.640 I get it. You had it can be reflective of the gambling, 238 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:32.000 yeah, sports betting. Yeah, because I want to get more in not 239 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.759 into sports sports betting, but I wanted to get more into helping those people, 240 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:37.319 man, because that's something that that's an addiction, and that's a real 241 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.079 thing and it kills people, you know, it drives people to take their 242 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.400 own lives. But the game of football is so much bigger than sports betting. 243 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.920 So but I see what you're saying depends how you look at that, 244 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:56.079 because money wise, sports betting there's more money that goes into that than football. 245 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.519 You look like you're surprised by this. No, I'm just saying, 246 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.480 is I can see how she's probably not going to turn down an opportunity to 247 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.400 represent. No, I'm telling her, like, yeah, people will like 248 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.519 football. And there's like seven hundred thousand people that attended the draft as just 249 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.880 the spectators. It's huge. Football is huge, But at least keep in 250 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.599 mind that sports betting is huge too. I mean, she knows. She's 251 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:23.599 one who signed the thing to let people do sports betting here in Michigan. 252 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.359 You know, she's the one that set the rate that like Yahoo which refused 253 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.319 to pay, but like fan Duel and all these other ones, they had 254 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.079 to pay a fee, and she was the one that's set that up. 255 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.359 You know. So she can take her a little four million from these companies, 256 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.640 but she's got to do what she needs to do to give back to 257 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.319 the people that fall into these these traps because it's very easy to do and 258 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:51.240 to my knowledge, there's zero being done to help these people. They flash 259 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:53.759 eight hundred number and that's it. And I'm telling you, I have called 260 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.880 that eight hundred number and said I need help. I was just seeing her 261 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.960 would go yeah, because I was applying for a grant, because I thought, 262 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.160 well, they keep putting out there like include must include eight hundred number, 263 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.400 mostly like that was some magical thing, and so I was like, 264 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:12.920 what does this eight hundred number do? So I called it and that's when 265 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:19.880 I was met with sheer terror of Wow, there's no help for people. 266 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:25.880 Imagine if somebody you know, drank or heroin or whatever you want to call 267 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.480 it whatever, if they're calling a number, Hey, this is going to 268 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:32.039 help me and get help from my substance use disorder. And they were like, 269 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:33.599 okay, well, I know you want to talk to somebody right now, 270 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.240 but I'm gonna go ahead and take your info and within a week or 271 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:42.559 so someone's going to try to try to try to call you back. But 272 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:47.640 we only have two people in your area, so just just hang in there. 273 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.039 Yeah, Gambler's anonymous, I think that they had. And that means 274 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.519 there's there's different kinds of there's different just like there's different kinds of substance use 275 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.359 disorder. But like, there's people who are addicted to casinos. There's people 276 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.240 that are addicted to the tables at casinos. There's people that are addicted to 277 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:10.160 lottery tickets, scratch off lottery tickets. There's people that are addicted to the 278 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:14.480 regular lotto, the numbers game, right, and then there's people that are 279 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.799 addicted to sports betting. And it's a I mean, it's gambling in general. 280 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.599 And I think when we tried to look into it, the closest meeting 281 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.640 that was actually currently active, like met once a week, and it was 282 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:32.000 over an hour away from where we live in Traverse City. There's a family 283 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:36.839 member that I I've told this story before. I was trying to trying to 284 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.160 learn more about it. You know, this is probably seven years ago. 285 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:42.480 And I saw they had a meeting and it was an hour and a half 286 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.359 away, and I get there. It was just me and the swarm other 287 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.720 guy, and then one other dude did show up, but he's like, 288 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.839 yeah, usually it's just us two, and he's like sometimes it's just me, 289 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.680 And then I ended up just going home. He's like an shut it 290 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.039 down, and I was like, wow, I'm glad. I didn't drive 291 00:20:56.039 --> 00:21:00.880 away here from that, you know, I drove all the way there and 292 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:06.640 then they weren't even having one, and it's like my gosh, but yeah, 293 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:10.480 it's it's a problem. And that was my point to her, and 294 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:14.400 hopefully she reads that and does something about it, because just you know, 295 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:19.519 playing commercials saying got a gambling problem called this number. It's not enough, 296 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.720 you know, throw up the billboard. It's not enough, you know. 297 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.640 And I had a billboard discussion yesterday about what a waste of money it is. 298 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.759 I mean, billboards can be effective, but other times it's just a 299 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.559 waste of money and people I think are stuck in the hole. Well that's 300 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.119 what we've done before. So we did last ten years as we put this 301 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.119 billboard up and it told people not to drink and drive. Well, if 302 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.279 you look at all that money that was spent, I can guarantee you I 303 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.720 will have eight ideas that are better and would be more effective than throwing a 304 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:55.559 billboard up. And it's just getting people out of that way of thinking. 305 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:57.920 Like that's just how we've done things. This is what we do. It's 306 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:03.519 what we've always done. Stop that unless you're winning, unless you're killing it, 307 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.039 like man, we're really like, nobody's addicted anymore, Like until you're 308 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.680 at that point, stop because sadly that's never going to happen. No, 309 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.839 it's not. But the more help we can give people in, the easier 310 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.240 we can get people connected, so they don't have to lose their life, 311 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.920 they don't have to lose their house, they don't have to lose their marriage, 312 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.119 you know, And it's going to be on them ultimately, just like 313 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.759 it was on you and I, you know, to flip the script on 314 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.759 life and take ownership of what we wanted and how we're living and what we 315 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:38.799 wanted to be and what we want to become. It's hard and there's no 316 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:45.039 hope there sometimes, but figuring out where you can get that hope. It's 317 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:49.480 different for everybody, but it's out there and it can't happen. And just 318 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.759 don't make them feel like there is nothing to help them, right, you 319 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.640 know. That's that's the big thing there in my opinion. As a professional 320 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:02.599 radio broadcaster, that's what I have. I remember the one that was like 321 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.759 basically talking about do UIs cost you like ten thousand dollars? Do you remember 322 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:15.240 that one? It's talking about And I'm like Okay, so let's threaten people 323 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.440 who have issues with drinking, right. I mean that is not it's not 324 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:27.039 empowering, it's it's not supportive. It's not making them feel like they have, 325 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.640 you know, an opportunity to change. So there's all these pieces that 326 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.759 they go into actually you know, getting people in a place where they can 327 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.720 be like, yeah, you're right, I have a problem, and I 328 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.079 feel like now's a time when I can deal with it. Threatening them, 329 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.680 with them, with the amount is going to cost them when they do get 330 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:56.319 caught, you're only threatening poor people. Really, lots of money went into 331 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.119 that billboard. Yeah, and the money that they spent on that, and 332 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.519 like it's not encouraging people. I just want to be like they're kicking ideas 333 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.440 around. I just want to be in that room to just say that's stupid. 334 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.720 Let's talk about why it's stupid and put a bill I'm sure there's a 335 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.119 lot of people with a lot of great ideas that would be support that are 336 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:22.079 very simple and could be words of wisdom or words of encouragement and support that 337 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.119 at a juncture somebody read it, would read it who's struggling at that time, 338 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.799 and that can sink in and be like and be meaningful. Maybe not 339 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.640 at that moment they might not be like I'm going to go get some help 340 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.359 now, but you know what I mean hearing that message again and having it 341 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.400 mean something to them, even if they pretended they were going to put up 342 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:47.680 a billboard and hear me out, like if they went to junior high said 343 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:55.279 we want everybody, this is requirement for everybody to design a billboard about drinking 344 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.359 and driving or something. I don't know, but if you got them thinking 345 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:03.920 about it to where like high school kids had to do this, see what 346 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:07.599 think tank what they came up with, that'd be freaking if you use them. 347 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.440 Cool if not, but at least you're getting the messaging to the kids, 348 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:12.240 you know, and you can put facts on there, like this is 349 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:17.000 how many people die, you know, and here's the number where you can 350 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.319 call to get help, you know, like really give them the tools and 351 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.519 let them think they're designed in this great Grand Wizard billboard, which hey, 352 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.400 maybe they will, but if not, at least you're giving them information get 353 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.720 submitted to NBAHS like here here's some ideas, he says. But if we 354 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.319 made that something like all schools had to do, I think that'd be a 355 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.039 great idea because you're getting that information to the kids while they're young. They're 356 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:40.319 reading this, they're like, oh wow, this is how many people got 357 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.160 killed in drunk driving accidents. Oh wow, okay, you shouldn't drink and 358 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:48.319 drive. That's that's pretty bad. You know, it's not just about people 359 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.200 that themselves either. It's you can take other people's lives. I think that's 360 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.839 the consider it, Like, that's the one thing that can I think might 361 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.240 sink in a little I don't know, up, Yeah, we need to 362 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.799 have I mean, that's the kind of messaging. That's the kind of conversations 363 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.279 that need to be had. Though, It's like, this is not just 364 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:10.079 about you, Like obviously you need to be concerned about your own substance use 365 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.440 disorder. But you know, people when you get behind the wheel, it's 366 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.279 like having a gun in your hand and here's the number you can call, 367 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.839 and here's whatever, and here's the process. So that way they know it. 368 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.559 And yeah, they think it's just a fun billboard design, but really 369 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.640 they're learning information for themselves. And just a minute ago, I said, 370 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.559 that's what woke me up. And I didn't take anybody's life, thank god. 371 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.559 But just the fact that I drove blacked out, you know that I 372 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.720 wasn't thinking about a billboard. I don't remember driving, and that's scary. 373 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.279 And that's what really like the scared shit out of me. Like I could 374 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.160 have taken someone's life, and there are people right now in prison that don't 375 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.240 remember it. Yeah, and you think they wanted to take someone's life. 376 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.799 Absolutely not right. And yeah, I'm just I'm lucky, I'm fortunate, 377 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:59.079 and I know this and I'm blessed every day. But it wasn't like I 378 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.559 was like, oh, I only had ten beers, I can run down 379 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.599 to Bob's real quick. No, I don't remember it at all, and 380 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.200 there was no reason for me to go anywhere like that. I mean, 381 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.960 it just doesn't make any sense. And so again, those billboards don't drink 382 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.799 and drive or whatever. Yet. Okay, that's cute and all, but 383 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.279 I think people already know that, you know, I mean, I still 384 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:23.519 see some buckle up. It's the law signs. That's funny because clearly someone's 385 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.839 not wearing their seatbelt. They don't give a shit about getting a ticket. 386 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.880 They just don't care, you know. And for us, it's kind of 387 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.200 saying nature because We're part of the generation that you had to wear a seat 388 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.480 belt all time, so it's just second nature now for us. But the 389 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.880 generation before us, they were the ones that were real piste about it. 390 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.640 I wear a seat belt, Like I tell people in the back seat put 391 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.000 one on. They're like, why, yeah, not going to fly out. 392 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.119 I'm like, I don't care what you're gonna do. What you do, 393 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.279 but one thing you're not going to do is fly up here and hit 394 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.599 me, because that shit happens. I remember. That was like one of 395 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.640 the first things that I remember about you is like you wouldn't like even move 396 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:04.400 the car until I had my seatbelt bubble. And I'm like, I'm doing 397 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.480 it. I got purses, I got winter jackets on. Like this takes 398 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.960 a second, right, and you're just like waiting Like I'm like, he 399 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:17.200 literally is waiting for me to bumble my seat belt before he persisting this vehicle 400 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:22.680 and drive like that's cute. Yeah, that's what I do. Like, 401 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:29.240 we're not going anywhere until you're buckled up. You're not flying over here knocking 402 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.519 my teeth out. This is not gonna happen, you know. But when 403 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.680 I was taking people a lot to treatment, people be like, oh my 404 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.920 cheat belt. I'm like, yeah, do you understand what happens in a 405 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.200 wreck? Well, I might flow out of the car, no dipshit if 406 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.599 you're lucky, But no, you're gonna fly away up here, because that's 407 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:48.759 what happened to me when I was in my car accident when I was fourteen 408 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.000 or whatever. I went flying all the way to the front wham with the 409 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:57.240 dash. That sucked. But yeah, but yeah, So anyway, the 410 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.039 billboards in the seatbelt, Yeah, that kind of cracked me up because it's 411 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.400 like, I think people are pretty good on that. Now, like how 412 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.920 much did you spend on that? Like, do you really have that much 413 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.160 money that you just don't know what to do with? You're just like I 414 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:12.880 was just slapped out on a billboards. That's what we've always done. They're 415 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.920 expensive, you're expensive. Yeah. I watched the show the other day, 416 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:25.880 well the other night on Hulu. It was a magical show. It was 417 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.519 called thank You good Night. It is the bon Jovi documentary. It's like 418 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.680 a four I guess maybe it's a docuseries. I'm not sure how that goes, 419 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:38.359 but four episodes. They're pretty long episodes, but it just goes through 420 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.799 bon Jovi's career and the whole band, and it was sad. Well, 421 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:45.599 I mean it was. It was interesting, it was fun, it was 422 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.720 cool. I've kind of liked bon Jovi as I got older, they kind 423 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.119 of got older too, and so they wrote more love songs, more chill 424 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.319 songs, and as they would put it, which is true, more meaningful 425 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:03.519 songs. But it was it was a good little documentary. But John bon 426 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:10.519 Joviy I remember hearing about six months ago that he can't sing anymore, and 427 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.039 I heard audio of it, and it's just like, oh geez, what 428 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.960 happened. Well, they go through it and his voice box is kind of 429 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.519 messed up where it doesn't shut all the way. I don't know, some 430 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.319 something's messed up with his voice, and so he like had this surgery. 431 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.720 But it goes through that in the documentary or whatever. But it's it's just 432 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.440 sad because he wants to sing and that's what he's done his whole life. 433 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.759 And he kind of starts talking about Tiger Woods and Tiger Woods, his car 434 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.359 accident, how he had to get his like leg or something, his ankles. 435 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.000 He hit something fused, and you have something fused, it means it 436 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.440 doesn't move anymore, pretty much like you're welding it together. Right, So 437 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.880 Tiger Woods is still trying to learn how to play golf again, you know. 438 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:55.119 And I think John bon Jovie should just learn how to sing a little 439 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.799 differently. He doesn't have to hit the notes that he was hitting when he 440 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.240 was twenty, you know. He should just try to do a different, 441 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.720 different version of his voice, because he can sing some parts, but then 442 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.400 when he would try to hit the high it was like me, he's trying 443 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.160 to sing some songs, so it made me made me feel bad for him. 444 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.079 And then just how old he looks now? Yes, that's what happens. 445 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:25.839 Funny. There's a big difference between fifty and sixty. I'm gonna tell 446 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.480 you that right now. Huge difference because if you looked at him when he 447 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.640 was fifty, he looked young. They had an album all everything was cool, 448 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.359 and this was two years ago, this documentary, and he just turned 449 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.480 sixty two now, But he was sixty when they made this, and it's 450 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:44.000 just like whoa, like just ten years ago when about the other album, 451 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.319 he didn't look that old and now he's got gray hair and like he just 452 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.119 i mean even kind of had some gray hair before. Yeah, but now 453 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.680 it just looks like old person gray hair. Fun, so you shave your 454 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:01.160 head's kids. No, I caught little bits and pieces of that, but 455 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.680 yeah, I'm sure you were. You were very interested in that. Yeah. 456 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.200 Well, being a radio guy, you know, playing thousands and million, 457 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:14.680 I wonder how many times I did play a bon Jovie song. Lots, 458 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.279 probably five, no, probably more than probably ten thousand, No, 459 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.839 probably more than that, because you get a five six hour shift going, 460 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.680 I'm going to have at least two bond Jovie songs in there at some point, 461 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.000 I would assume. Yeah, that's a lot. I played a lot 462 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.359 of bon Jovie songs and I didn't mind them. You know. I think 463 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:42.119 when I was in ninth grade, eighth grade, I know, the New 464 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.319 Jersey album came out or whatever, and I and my stepdad got it and 465 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.119 I stole it. I had still it. I just took it that I 466 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:53.759 listened to that. It's like, how I just justified did you borrow it? 467 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.960 Did you ask permission? I don't remember. I probably did, and 468 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:04.480 that's fine. There was yeah, yeah, but I love that tape. 469 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.400 I like that tape. I liked it a lot, and I just just 470 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.559 hope Bnjovi can make it, and you know, just the the drug addiction 471 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.079 in his band. After they got doctor to the Rockahall Hall of Fame, 472 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.680 their one guy died who was real bad that they kick him out, and 473 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.319 then Richie Sambora he I don't know, he still looks like he's out there, 474 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.960 but the drummer and the other guy ended up I think going into rehab. 475 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.799 So he's always been on the straight and narrow. Yeah, he just 476 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.480 said that he was a singer, you know, like smoking stuff, and 477 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.559 he said he had a real bad experience with drugs. He didn't really say 478 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.559 too much about it, but just that when he was young, before he 479 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.240 even started the band, really he had a really bad experience with it, 480 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.599 so he didn't really mess with it. I think he might drink from time 481 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.200 to time, but he doesn't want to do anything. And this is what's 482 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.039 kind of sad. And I wouldn't say I ron, but the fact that 483 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.119 he can't sing now, and like he always wanted to protect his voice, 484 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.039 you know, like he didn't want a drink too much or you know, 485 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.199 he wouldn't go crazy on stuff because he had to save his voice. Right 486 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.639 then, Now here's sixty two and can't sing wow. You know. He 487 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.719 even had surgery to fix it, and as start as the documentary, when 488 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.800 they stopped at it, it wasn't any better. So I don't know if, 489 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.599 but it's just sad. It made me feel old too, because I'm 490 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.400 like, man, I remember that, and he was a good looking young 491 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.159 man, John Bonjobi was, and to see him now, it's just like, 492 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.679 oh, man, he posted some on Facebook today and I was like, 493 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.440 it's so weird be the same age as all these old people. I 494 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:50.159 saw that because it's freaking me out now because I got what fourteen years left, 495 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.760 because I'll be forty six soon fourteen years and I'll be sixty and I'm 496 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.519 thinking, like, what's Parker going to think? Like, that's why I'm 497 00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.840 going to hit the grandpa age when he's like getting ready for high school sports 498 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.280 or whatever he's doing. So I'd be like, Oh, your grandpa's here, 499 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.280 that's my dad. Oh what if we just tell Parker we're like twenty 500 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.639 years younger than we are. Oh, I have the foundation of the relationship 501 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.280 with our child be based on lies. How old are your dad? Shut 502 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:25.760 up? Don't you house? No? You like standing in that corner, 503 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.800 ask me one more time. No, we're like superheroes. We can have 504 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:37.599 children at older ages. This is great. Yeah, I don't know. 505 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.679 I think he's going to be the youngest podcast ever. I'm not sure what 506 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.280 age is the youngest, but I think he's gonna be pretty young. When 507 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.880 he gets his first episode out, it'll just be guy Got Go Go stuff, 508 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:55.599 but will be in the record books. Yeah, you just see me 509 00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.280 like trying to teach him how to read every day. What do you think, 510 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.119 like, honey, like stop what teaching? Wait? Would you say 511 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.320 like if you came home and he's like, I don't know, five months 512 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.639 old and I'm like trying to teach him how to read, would be too 513 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.199 much? Well, you kind of do that, right, is that's why 514 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.000 we read to him all the time. We're going to read to him all 515 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:22.679 the time. It's really important. He's sitting them down and going, ah, 516 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.199 no, we're not You're not gonna be he can't even Yeah, right, 517 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.960 he's got some ules and you're like, what do you guys do all 518 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:36.199 day? I'll be lucky on like Parker be like daddy. That's what we 519 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:42.760 did, got him to say daddy today Tomorrow I'm working on pizza. Yeah, 520 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.960 it's it's coming up here. I'll be his arrival. I swear he 521 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:51.159 told me May eighth, but I know his due date's the twenty sixth of 522 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.679 May. Yes, so we'll see in the new fans the sixteenth, we'll 523 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.559 see you know, they do have a backup in case I can't make it. 524 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.519 And then we're supposed to see a comedian in Grand Rapids on the eleventh 525 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:09.320 of May. There's just so much coming in May. Just see how see 526 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.559 how it rolls out. And as far as two seventeen goes, we have 527 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.920 a cooking demonstration sort of right what you call it demonstration and class. It's 528 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.599 a class, so it's it's a pretty it's a pretty simplified cooking class. 529 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:30.719 It's more like meal preparation and so it's encouraging, like it talks about a 530 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:35.119 little bit about like nutrition, content and what have you. But they are 531 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:44.960 going to have the ingredients to put together I think three different dishes and and 532 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:52.239 they're going to do that all there with the attendees and then everybody needs to 533 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:57.559 eat and talk about their experience. And yeah, it's held at the local 534 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:09.760 grocery store, Oreana, which is very focused on like organic and nutritional nutrition. 535 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:17.039 It's like it's like, how do you describe that? Natural foods? 536 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.079 Natural food store? There you go, there you go. Yeah. I 537 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.800 was gonna say you have to go in somewhere with California, but it wasn't 538 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.920 coming around here. But yeah, maybe not whole foods, but maybe yeah, 539 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.960 kind of like whole foods. So if you're interested in going to that, 540 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.119 we're actually giving away tickets or seats or whatever you want to call it. 541 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.039 Yeah, two seventeen Recovery dot com. You can sign up for that 542 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.679 if you're in Traverse City, do that And it's on May thirteenth, yep, 543 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.519 and we're gonna have one of our people go I'm not sure who, 544 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.000 but somebody will be there from two seventeen. And I already mentioned the UFAM 545 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.599 rally on the sixteenth, and I need to put info on our website about 546 00:38:53.639 --> 00:39:00.360 that. And then May or June there's a free fishing it's like the eighth 547 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.360 and ninth, but I mean free fishing is you don't have to have a 548 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:08.679 license in Michigan to go fishing that weekend. And we teamed up with well, 549 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.800 we reached out to Jay Sporting Goods. Yes, and they're in gay 550 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.960 Lord and they have another location too, but we reached out to Gaylord location 551 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:20.320 and we're like, hey, we're a nonprofit. I think that well I 552 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.480 don't think you said it like that, but yeah, I wrote a whole 553 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:28.559 letter and they agreed, Yeah, we'll hook you up some fishing poles. 554 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.599 So we're gonna get together some kind of fishing event that weekend because it's free 555 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.480 and thanks to Jay's Sporting Goods for hooking us up with the poles that we 556 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.000 can give people. And then you hit late June. By late June, 557 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.079 I mean the twentieth, we're having Recovery Stories Part three, which we're gonna 558 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.280 have a food truck this time, so that'd be a little more interesting. 559 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.519 And I really should probably get a hold of the speakers that we're gonna have 560 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.159 speaking. Yes, maybe we shouldn't have that be our focus for this week, 561 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.920 Yeah, because we should lock that down as we going to May and 562 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:07.519 then July, of course we have the Cherry Festival that Mitch and the volunteers 563 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.159 are going to go out and we'll see how we're doing with coordinating us in 564 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:16.679 the In the child, right, you might be losing your mind, like 565 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.760 I need out of this house. Be like, I will go volunteer for 566 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.920 the shift please, and then the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight. I 567 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.920 want to do something for that, just some watching party or something up at 568 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.480 the office, I think, or maybe at a different location, who knows. 569 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.119 But my fear in that is it says it starts at eight and they're 570 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.559 going to have three fights before that next thing. You know, it's two 571 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.400 in the morning. And yeah, no, we're not doing that. No, 572 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.519 that's that's my only fear of it. But it should be an interesting 573 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.639 event. Mitch was making a flyer for it the other day because I told 574 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.400 him to, So, thanks Mitch. And then August I heard some Aboudy 575 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.800 also have the volleyball tournament too. This is July. Yeah, it's not 576 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:04.559 ours, it's ats. We have a presence there. Yeah, usually in 577 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.280 helpout they invite us. Yeah, they should, hope and yeah, and 578 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:14.199 I'll guess something about a boat or something. Maybe that's tentative. We're seeing 579 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:19.760 how that can roll out, but seeing if we can possibly get a pontoon 580 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:30.639 boat to go out on the water and two sandwiches and catch some rays. 581 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:38.079 You know. Yeah, I'll be home with Parker teaching them how to say 582 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.039 daddy. Yeah. So I don't know, but there's a lot of stuff 583 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.400 coming up with my point, and we're doing what we can to have fun 584 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.800 in recovery. Yeah. So if you ever need anything to seventeen recovery dot 585 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.480 com, you can reach out for a recovery coach. You can watch some 586 00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:00.400 cool funny videos, you can listen to podcasts. It's all right there for 587 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:06.719 you. So yeah, well I appreciate you coming on to do a podcast 588 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:13.519 today. We are going to take pictures of your belly, yeah me and 589 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.679 yes, because we have pictures of your belly, but we just haven't thrown 590 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.519 them out there or anything like that. But that's the one piece of advice 591 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.760 that I'd gotten from moms is there, like you are going to kick yourself 592 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.079 if you don't capture moments that that you need to you know, down the 593 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.400 line. It takes like three seconds, you know, take some pictures. 594 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.800 And we made it a point to take pictures of me in the pregnancy and 595 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:45.079 they turned out great. I'm like, but we kind of need pictures of 596 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:51.239 you in it. Yeah, so I'm doing that for you. But yeah, 597 00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.079 your your pictures are awesome and it's easy to take pictures of beautiful people. 598 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.920 It really is. It's making the ugly people look good as with stop 599 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.920 it. This is going to be great, it's going to be adorable. 600 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:07.280 Hard part we have we have a great idea. Yeah, so I want 601 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.920 to do a drone picture. But whatever, we can try to do that. 602 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.599 I mean, we still got like maybe four weeks before he gets here 603 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:21.719 exactly to the day. Are we going to do any exotic locations like her 604 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.480 backyard? Yeah, deer run around out there all looking sickly, I know, 605 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:36.480 Dear, they need something, they need some nutrients. Yeah, yeah, 606 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.320 they do well. I appreciate you coming on though, Martie. It 607 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.000 really does help because we did one at the office the other day and it 608 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.639 was totally off point that I didn't even publish it, that's how. But 609 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.639 it wasn't bad. It was just so I have a challenge for you. 610 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.679 Oh no, for me. Yes, it's not just for you, okay, 611 00:43:54.119 --> 00:44:00.559 but what if you actually had next time that you do a podcast in 612 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:09.119 the office. We're like went into it with intention of having it being on 613 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.719 spot okay, like staying true to talking about topic of recovery. Maybe keep 614 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:29.000 keeping it like PG okay, or about there staying true to topic and having 615 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.559 it be like twenty five minutes and have it be inspirational talking about experience, 616 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.559 strength and hope and see what you come up with. Feel me to do 617 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.559 a whole new, different podcast, just call it Experience, Strength and Hope. 618 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.000 No, I want you just saying be intentional about it being being productive 619 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:57.159 and meaningful and having the message be something people can walk away with like they 620 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.719 just went to a sat down with a pure recovery. Oh maybe I don't 621 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.280 even know what you're saying to me right now. You're speaking different language. 622 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.880 Now. We are going to do the Recovery Dad's podcast, probably within the 623 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:09.719 next week or two, and we're gonna start that up. So and that's 624 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:15.400 going to be a totally different podcast. I don't know, it's probably gonna 625 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.519 be the same thing, just with a different name. Who knows. Sure 626 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.599 it will be structured more, at least that's the thought of it all. 627 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:27.880 At least we'll all have topics and stuff that we're going to bring up as 628 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.079 being a recovery Dad. You know, I'm in a different spot that Mitch 629 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.159 is at. Mitch is a different spot than Justin's at, so we can 630 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.760 kind of take all that in and then you know, to have maybe a 631 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.360 guest or two on or something. But yeah, that's great. Yeah, 632 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:49.440 so that's coming soon and I'll have challenge accepted. Okay, that's what's up, 633 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.159 you know what I'm saying. Great, till next time. Thanks for 634 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.400 listening in two seventeen recovery dot com. If you don't have the app yet, 635 00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.840 you can get it as free in your App store a Google play Store, 636 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.320 and you can listen to every single podcast every made choose up to recovery. 637 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.039 Yeah. Well we had a good weekend everyone. Thanks for listening to 638 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:13.880 the two seventeen Recovery podcast. 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