WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.040 This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jake and Zalez Sound Fox 2 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:13.880 Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:19.879 z R TWUSA at iHeartRadio Station Yet pay good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to 4 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:23.160 I on the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's 5 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.679 Jacob Zaus. Got our guy Kevin in today for Tuesday and our last show 6 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.440 of the week, Our last show of the week. Merry Christmas, thank 7 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.359 Happy Thanksgiving, every all that whatever. We'll be back. Actually we'll be 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.320 back next week. Yeah we will. You know. Yeah, we could 9 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.439 take it oneth and a half off, but you know, we need we 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.600 need it. We need we need tomorrow off to get ready to eat. 11 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.960 Yeah yeah, then we need Thursday off to eat. Uh huh. Then 12 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.880 we need Friday off to get recover from the eating. I'm gonna go somewhere 13 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.320 where I should never go because I really don't want to know the answer. 14 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.520 But do you already have your stretching pads available? Oh yeah, oh yeah, 15 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.840 oh yeah. You know it's a it's a all day think for us 16 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.000 because you know, back one hundred years ago, we started a turkey bowl, 17 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:06.640 right, and so we so now all the all the dads and everybody 18 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:07.840 we don't play in, our kids play, so that that starts. That 19 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.640 starts at nine o'clock in the morning. So they do that for a couple 20 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.760 of hours. Then most you know, we're the hosts for our family Thanksgiving, 21 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.280 for my brothers and everybody. So we uh so everybody comes to our 22 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.840 house after the turkey ball, So they're there all day and we're watching football 23 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.120 and everybody's in their stretchy pants. So and then we eat and then we 24 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.200 lay around in our stretching pants again. After that. We can probably see 25 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.959 there's some coaching shorts and ball coaching coaching, maybe those yester things. Oh 26 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.000 man, remember we played softball in and yeah, yeah, yeah, I 27 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.799 got more of the baggy basketball shorts going. I could probably put one leg 28 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.319 into my old ones. Now, that's all. We were hot in those. 29 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:59.319 What do you mean, wen, we weren't fat yet, we were 30 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:07.560 not fat three fat days. I wouldn't, man, I wouldn't exactly what 31 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.360 I can't even imagine, I mean, what that would look like right now, 32 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.599 get them to my knees and said never mind. Yeah, hey, 33 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.439 everybody you want to call, please do we watch Show of the week. 34 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:22.000 We're gonna be making our picks on our own by Thursday. Right now, 35 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:24.120 somebody will make them. Maybe by Thursday we'll post them up on our social 36 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:27.759 pick. I don't I don't know if I'll pick anything on Thursday. Yeah. 37 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.680 Well we both had the crap ass chiefs last night. Man, play 38 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.240 with your food and see what happens. Yeah, that's exactly what, Play 39 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.719 with your food. It's like, you know, they play around. They 40 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.080 dominated that game except for that bomb. Yeah, they were up ten. 41 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:44.240 I'm like, I got this, I got this, and then they pooped 42 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.120 the proverbial bed good, get out of here. You know what again, 43 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.159 as I said, at least as decency lose that they weren't going to cover, 44 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:52.800 right, they didn't cover, So they lost. Great. They had 45 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:54.759 every chance to win the game in so many ways and they didn't. Twell, 46 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.639 it's just what it is. Well, you know, and all the 47 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.879 all the all the Travis Kelsey, you know conversation. You know what he 48 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:06.080 was thinking about, Taylor instead of thinking about catching that freaking ball. That 49 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:08.159 question like that, I don't know that's funny because that'd be stupid. Question. 50 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.800 But it'd be funny answer. I'm sure you know, because she wasn't 51 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.800 at the game, right, so he wasn't showing off for her. So 52 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:20.599 and the other girlfriends say, what about me and my Childboliver? Yes, 53 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.280 compared to her, Well, she's just famous. Yeah, she's just famous 54 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:29.240 and very very wealthy and very well. There's two two. Okay, she's 55 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:34.719 a little hote, not your type. No comment, no comment. If 56 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.199 I say yes, I'm bad. If I say no, I'm bad, 57 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:42.039 I'm saying no comment. I don't know the matter with you guys. Answer, 58 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.840 no answer, babe, Hey you know why? As Jordan said, 59 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:52.439 Republicans by Tennis, Hue, soda, Democrats, God anyway. But yeah, 60 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:54.520 I'm very upset with the Chiefs, upset with the Lions. They both 61 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.520 both those games, both those teams this weekend pissed me off. Yeah. 62 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:02.000 More importantly, the Cats go up to the game on Sunday, I think 63 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.759 they're twelve, page twelve. You gonna say something, Oh no, the 64 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:09.560 football, the line, I think it's gone to twelve. They've gained two 65 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.560 points. I have not seen that. I told me last night last night, 66 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.360 and I think, oh wow, from ten to twelve could be even 67 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:16.680 higher. Now, well, people are jumping on you know, people are 68 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:18.399 finding out about them, right, yeah, you know, I mean, 69 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.519 well, let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Both 70 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:28.279 you guys, uh, nationally nationally, Who isn't Arizona one of the top 71 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.439 one or two stories nationally? That's I mean, there's a lot of people 72 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:35.160 saying that who they should be? Like the national shows that I listened to, 73 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.639 what are they saying? You know, they're saying that Arizona is one 74 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.120 of the one of the more compelling stories of the year, right because of 75 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.680 the turnaround, because and because I think part of it, Steve is because 76 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.879 Jedfish was not seen as a great hire not you know, while he was 77 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.639 a football coach for Numbers Together, never played football. He is a tennis 78 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.360 player. Right, so the odds, you know, people felt the odds 79 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:00.600 were stacked. Again. It was kind of you know a lot of people 80 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.720 made fun of the hire and then this has happened and people are going, 81 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:08.319 holy hell, you know, we did we miss on this? So yeah, 82 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:10.920 so you know, let me say this. I think that he's the 83 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.480 guy that ASU hoped Herman would be. And I say that. I say 84 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.920 that because he's the CEO of the grid and Jed is that guy, not 85 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.839 that he's not a football coach, because you could tell he's got a lot 86 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.800 of trick plays under his sleeve. And I was play calling and then he 87 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.279 knows how to handle people. Uh. But you know what I'm saying, 88 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.160 her was supposed to be that guy bringing in some pretty good coaches and then 89 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:35.240 works from magic, right, and and and and he you know, and 90 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.519 so I think it was he was saying, it's not somebody that you would 91 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:44.240 think could do this, right, that Arizona went on the cheap, got 92 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.399 somebody inexpensive, got somebody that nobody else was after, and kind of like, 93 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:51.680 Okay, come what did you think exactly that? Right? You know, 94 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:56.399 honestly, I don't know anybody who didn't think otherwise. You're in the 95 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.839 You're if there's a box here, you're in that box. I mean, 96 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.439 I'm more in that box than in the box of oh this this is There's 97 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:05.920 nobody in that box. There's nobody box unless your name is fish. Yeah. 98 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:10.399 And so you know, so I think that that adds to the story. 99 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.480 You know, You're like, I went I went to watch the full 100 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.360 sixty minute version of the game. You know, and just you know, 101 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.120 the announcers in the game, just you know, and Yogi Roth was one 102 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.399 of them, you know, just talking about how guys, this is, 103 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:25.360 this is one of the biggest stories in college football. They're they're kind of 104 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:30.399 like somebody called them the darlings of college football, Like everybody's rooting for them 105 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:32.920 because they've been so bad and all of a sudden they're good. You know. 106 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.399 That kind of stuff is what it is. What you hear, Well, 107 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.199 they're still in love with Dion and maybe it's not the right word. 108 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.199 Well, they're quoting the hell out of him every chance I get. Yeah, 109 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.319 but he's also going to finish in the last place. Yeah. And 110 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:47.759 no, at the end of the day, that's where the water fell. 111 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:51.920 Yeah, and and so the shine came off of that. And and now 112 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:57.279 it's kind of like, wow, Arizona's story. He hasn't brought any receipts 113 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.519 to the table in a long time because there's no reason to be shopping hume, 114 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.319 right, No, no, right, yeah, talk about the line 115 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.040 for theirs for the AIG. It's still ten and a half. But really, 116 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:12.360 Okay, so someone told me last night was hard rock? Uh hard 117 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.519 rock? Uh? Uh? Sports book. Hasma has it at nine in 118 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.199 it well, and everybody else is still at ten and a half. The 119 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.519 only thing I'm concerned about is something that the jet is not concerned about, 120 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:27.199 is uh, Well, it's not that he's not concerned. I'm more concerned 121 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.600 about the craziness that happens in this game because there's things that you could never 122 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.920 even think of when it happens, and you know, and and and and 123 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:40.120 you kind of be worried if you know, if one side of the ball 124 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.639 versus the other was you know, if there's not the balance that they have, 125 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:47.680 Yeah, on both sides of the ball, because I feel like if 126 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:49.959 the offense doesn't have a great day, well the defense, you know, 127 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:58.240 can hold it together and vice versa. Uh and so I shouldn't even say 128 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.560 this, but I'm gonna say it. I'm I am less worried about this 129 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.439 one than I have been for this game in a really long time. Yeah, 130 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.879 you just changed it, I did. But but you know, I 131 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.720 understand Steve A. S u is really bad. I understand that I'm gonna 132 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:13.959 making fun of him. I'm not saying that to make fun of him. 133 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:16.879 They're a very bad team right now. I think it's wasn't it the same 134 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.079 thing three four years ago? Whatever? Wherever the Issue came in thinking these 135 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.240 guys suck, and then they did and they did it sucked as bad as 136 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.639 anybody it sucked in this rivalry ever. And and look, I'm not sitting 137 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.000 here thinking Orizon is gonna go up there and put a fifty on them or 138 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.039 whatever. I just feel like Arizona is so solid across the board that even 139 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.960 if Face Who plays its best game, I don't think they can beat it. 140 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:48.639 Yeah, because I'll say, I'll say I don't think they should beat 141 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.600 them. But again, you have to guard against all the weird stuff that 142 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.879 can happen, and and and and sometimes it does. You know, some 143 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.519 some somebody gets loose and and and goes crazy and does things there. Yeah, 144 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.759 you get an injury or whatever, anyone of a number thing. But 145 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.720 Issue doesn't even have a quarterback right now, what does the kid say? 146 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.399 Yeah, yes, the game. I mean, honestly, I think we 147 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.000 really could put something on him this weekend, uh like kind of what Jay 148 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.240 was talking about. And we're just better all around, really well more well 149 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:24.120 rounded football team, better coached then we have, we have something going for 150 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.799 us. Yeah, were you Were you a student when they hammered seventy to 151 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:31.120 seven year? Yeah? How did that feel? I didn't we were bad? 152 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:37.279 So yeah, I didn't really care because, like because I had no 153 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.320 expectation for the football team to impress me at all. So this is the 154 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.200 first year where I feel like there are actual expectations. Yeah. And when 155 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.000 you said that, he jink said, I was thinking. I was like, 156 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:48.799 well, we kind of have to stop thinking that way, because I 157 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.039 think this is actually a football program now. Yeah, you know what I 158 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.879 mean? Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly the exactly one you know, 159 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.360 from Washington State onto this last week. You kind of had the little 160 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.120 doubts in your head about whether they're really that good. Right, you have 161 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:05.799 to let that go and say they're really that good. Here's the problem though, 162 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.360 once you start letting that go, well we can we can do that, 163 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.360 they can't do it right, right, right? They can't do that. 164 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.840 They can't. And I'd like to I wonder do you think he gets 165 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:20.120 fired up jet jet with him? Yeah? You do? Oh yeah, 166 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.440 like how do you see that? Do you see it? Like the locker 167 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:28.000 room videos and stuff like? Maybe not like you know, he's a he's 168 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:33.279 a he's a motivational Parker kind of guy. You know, go watch the 169 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.639 go watch the you know, the Sounds of the season that that that's the 170 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.720 department does for each game, just even just the last one. They even 171 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.919 show him in there at halftimes, you know, saying, you know, 172 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.320 this is the last thirty minutes a lot of you're gonna play or this is 173 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.960 the last thirty minutes we're playing on this field this year. What's is the 174 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.080 presentation? Though? What's his? What's his? Oh? I mean he 175 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.960 is he is he fire brimstone guy. No, but he does get animated. 176 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.000 Football Instagram puts out some pretty good content after games when we do win. 177 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.440 Uh well, I see the singing and the dancing and he was pretty 178 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.279 fair. The sound of the Sounds of the season thing, which great videos 179 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:18.840 that he's got that you have a football program. Does they do one for 180 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:20.440 for I think every win. I don't know if they do it for every 181 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.840 game. I think they do them for every win. And uh the one, 182 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:30.279 this the one this week you get you catch Jed pre game and then 183 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.320 you even catch him at halftime. So he's you know, he's he's motivating. 184 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.000 He tries to motivate these guys with his he gives speeches, is what 185 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.279 I'm saying. You know, is he you know, throwing stuff around and 186 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:46.559 you know, tearing things apart. He's not doing that, but he's you 187 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.559 know, he's telling these guys you know how much this should mean to that. 188 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.960 To me, it would be more like he's more of a philosopher type 189 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.320 of coach. You know, he gets excited and loud and animated and stuff. 190 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.240 Okay to me, okay, being that you know, I'm twenty years 191 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.799 older than him, and you know, it's like my kid trying to you 192 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:13.000 know, get me excited. I tell you, you know, it doesn't. 193 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.279 It doesn't resonate as much to me, and I assume it resonates with 194 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.960 the player. Yeah, well it's much better than the weekend at Bernie's. 195 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.039 Guy that they had before just wasn't wasn't really there. Honestly, he was 196 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:30.600 with no emotion or as Gabe would call him, Kevin Bumblin. That's a 197 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:35.200 good one one. No, No, he's you know, he does he 198 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.799 does the whole deal, and I feel like he doesn in a way that 199 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.799 he helps these guys think of things that they might not be thinking. Yeah, 200 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.080 which is great because he is smart like that, right, he is 201 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.240 smart like that. He's been around excuse and he's been around coaches that have 202 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.519 been really good motivators, right right, without having to be you know, 203 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.879 crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he is. He is nonchalant, 204 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.279 but in a you know, good nonchalant because I mean, you know, 205 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:01.759 those of us who've been around for one hundred years, you know heard 206 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:07.159 the legends of Tom Rogman and and the and the speeches that you know he 207 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.720 would tear a locker room apart. Yeah. Well, and and you know 208 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.399 Dick was and wasn't depends on the time, right, if you really pissed, 209 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.279 had guys there that did, right, We're gonna have Dwayne and Keenan 210 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.360 those Oh, I have one of the guys to the players, well the 211 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:28.159 players, KiB and Kim Calvinian who you know a lot And we'll we'll see 212 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.799 if if he I'm sure he's had to have heard this, but you know, 213 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.679 Calvin Ethan was has long been considered the guy who was sort of the 214 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.200 heart and soul of that team. He was a captain, he was a 215 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.480 leader. He was a don't take any crap kind of guy that a lot 216 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.480 of people feel that without him that team would not have done what it did 217 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.000 going twelve and one and really being one game away from playing for championship, 218 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.840 not just and we'll talk about the importance of that. So I just got 219 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.240 a text. How do I find Sounds of the Season. Uh, you 220 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.039 can probably find it. And you can find it on you have a Facebook 221 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.159 page, on their on their Twitter, Google wor Google maybe yeah, on 222 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.200 the Twitter county. It's on YouTube. Go to YouTube YouTube Arizona Sounds of 223 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.919 the Season on YouTube and you and you'll find him. They're all there for 224 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.960 the whole season. We'll do that as well. Yeah. And then uh, 225 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.759 then Brian Jefferies, we're gonna we're gonna get him in one last time 226 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.840 before he heads off to all these things he's got going this week. He's 227 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.799 got the Michigan State game on Thursday. Yeah, uh in basketball, and 228 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.399 then he's got the he'll be back and he'll do the A SU game on 229 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.360 Saturdays. We want to talk to Brian Jefferies probably about both of these things. 230 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.879 Yeah, I'm going I don't know do we did we ever ask him 231 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:33.720 what's his what his favorite A s U Arizona No, No, I was 232 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.639 just wanting to ask him favorite moments, you know, crazy times. Remember 233 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.639 the old uniforms. I think you come to the team. Oh yeah, 234 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.120 yeah, that was Marmy, right, Larry Marmy, Yeah yeah, Larry 235 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.519 Army. Okay, all right, we'll take our break. We'll be right 236 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.080 back with Calvini fan captain of the nineteen eighty eight, nineteen ninety eight, 237 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:58.159 twelve and one football team to lot down. 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Breaking down 312 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:25.400 all the exes and oh, it's Steve Rivera and Jacin Salmons. This is 313 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:30.039 I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to 314 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.240 my I on the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 315 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.720 You're Jagon jaws Ian phone. We have Kelvin Ephon, former U of 316 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.480 A captain in nineteen ninety eight. Let me say this real quick. I 317 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.640 just gotta know Toby said this of Efon. I'm not not sure what your 318 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.960 action will be, Kelvin. If we could play all play as hard as 319 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.839 Kelvin did and as tough as he was, or if we could all play 320 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.119 as hard and as tough as Kevin is, we would win every game because 321 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:03.200 that sound man, you know, that's that's that's my that's that's that's my 322 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.440 coach. Man, that's my uh, that's my guy, coach tell me 323 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.200 man. He always expressed that to me, So I know that was Sincere. 324 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:12.960 I know that's how he really felt, Kelvin. You know, we 325 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:15.799 talked to Barrett Baker, one of your teammates from that ninety eight team, 326 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.240 and tried to you know, he said that there was a feeling, you 327 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.039 know, even late the year before that you guys were going to be special 328 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.359 in ninety eight. When did you know that ninety eight that that team was 329 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.799 gonna be, you know, very special. Maybe maybe you didn't predict that 330 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.799 we're gonna go twelve and one, but certainly we're gonna have a great season. 331 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.440 Yeah, I agree with Barrett. I think I think that year will 332 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.000 wind it up. I think we lost our we were like one in four 333 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.400 and then we won like six games of five games and to be as u 334 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.920 to get to the Insight dot Com Bow, and then we just had some 335 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:55.160 great practices. So I think it's that that Bowl game practices when which which 336 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.000 is which I think is gonna be important for the U of a team. 337 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.279 I think that's gonna be a chance for them to have an even more special 338 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.960 season in this year. Taking those bowl game extra practices, you just seem 339 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.640 to build a bond and you get a lot of work done because you were 340 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.279 with you who you were back in the captain and the motivator guy. Uh, 341 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.839 could you talk about what how you felt the importance of that was for 342 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.079 that team? Well, well, I thought I thought it was important. 343 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.559 Uh, you know, being a leader, you you have to understand that 344 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:30.680 sometimes the coaches only could get so far with communicating with with with with it 345 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.240 basically being their job. You know, when another teammate know it's coming from 346 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.960 your heart and they're watching you every day work and grind with them, Uh, 347 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.839 they just they just hear you a little bit better. So I knew 348 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.279 from my high school days, and you know, I probably was the captain 349 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.279 of every team I was on. So I knew from my early days that 350 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.319 if I could communicate what the coaches were trying to get, you know, 351 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:55.799 basically on on the players level, that we could probably go a little bit 352 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:59.720 farther. So that team, you know, as we all remember, got 353 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.079 off to great start. You had that, you had that that thing that 354 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.920 happened at Washington. Uh, you come back and you know it's all on 355 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.799 the line against u c L. A you lost, but you know you 356 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.319 still finish tonight, still won the rest of your games, including beating as 357 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:18.240 U. How did you avoid some sort of a letdown after that U c 358 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.680 L A game that you know that ended up meaning so much? Yeah, 359 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:26.160 you know that team. I always said that to me, that's wherever one 360 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.960 stems, and that one loss was huge because I feel like we got a 361 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.319 chance to really show what type of character we had as a group. Uh. 362 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.960 You know, Coach Tomy used to always talk about the front runners and 363 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.759 people that when things are always going their way, you know things are good. 364 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:42.599 But when things soon as things go bad, those you know, those 365 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:47.319 people crumble. And I just think that we had a chance to show everybody 366 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.920 and show the next teams that were coming alone behind us that, you know 367 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.240 what, we took that l but to be great, we got to step 368 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:57.160 back up and go a game at a time and prove to ourselves that we 369 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.279 are the team that we thought we were. And I was just proud that 370 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.359 we were able to win every game after that. Is U then went on 371 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.160 to beat the Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl. Well, we're just very proud 372 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.720 to be a part of that because again, you took that loss, a 373 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.240 lot of teams would have folded and we wouldn't have been able to accomplish those 374 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.160 type of goals. Knowing knowing, uh, you know, you were the 375 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.680 captain, knowing what you know it takes to be a captain. Can you 376 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.440 sense from Afar who is this year's captain? Uh? Man? You know 377 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.440 what? This is one of those teams that I think have a few camp 378 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.559 first and foremost, I think my new Minu on that defensive side of the 379 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.319 ball, even though he's a young young I think a red turf freshman or 380 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.319 a sophomore, I think he's a leader by example and also by for us 381 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.319 I watched him. I think Trading Stoops is a guy in the defensive backfield. 382 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:52.240 Uh uh that that I also think is the leader. And on that 383 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.720 defensive line, Big Bill Bill Morgan, it does that's name Marton Norton, 384 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.240 Big Bill Norton. Yeah, I think I think you know he's and in 385 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.279 with one year, but coming from Georgia with that winning pedigree. I think 386 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.920 he's rubbed off on the guys as well. And then just the culture of 387 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.559 those you know, the Simon and the Polynesian, you know people man just 388 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.599 just just their culture. And then on the offensive side of the ball, 389 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.759 I think Jonah uh Margan, Jordan Margan, the big offensive line, the 390 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:25.000 kind of quiet guy but there by example of real steady. And then you 391 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:30.440 know, quiet leader is another quiet leaders I think is uh Noah Fafita. 392 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.279 I mean, I just think the way that he plays and the way that 393 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.920 he carries himself. Uh. Sometimes they don't always have to be verbal. 394 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.319 Sometimes it's just the action. And I scored a lot of touchdowns. Sometimes 395 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.880 people think about my leadership about you know, my talk. Trust me, 396 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.240 it was my physical play that the guys really respected and that's why they I 397 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:49.960 could get that ear a little bit. Yeah, he had a mess of 398 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.759 touchdowns that year. As I recall, you were the you were the guy 399 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.720 inside the five yard line. Let me ask you when when the when the 400 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.680 quarterback thing cropped up this year between you with Jaden the Lord he got hurt 401 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.240 and it comes in plays really well, you know, everybody's waiting for Jayden 402 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.079 to come back. And is he going to get the job or not? 403 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.799 Could you have you been ever been in a situation where something like that actually 404 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.319 went bad, you know, where where a locker room got divided or anyone 405 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:18.720 of her number of things because that you know, if those two guys hadn't 406 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.359 been good guys, that could have gone bad. Yeah, I have I 407 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.400 haven't been a part of it because you know, most of the teams I 408 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.319 would. I mean, I've never been on the team where it was necessary 409 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.319 quarterback led. Uh, so that that that never really was a problem. 410 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.519 Any team I was on, we was always the next guy up, regardless 411 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.799 of the situation. Uh. I thought it was a little unique with this 412 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.680 team because of all the work. I felt like that jd L helped you 413 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.559 to put Arizona's position to have a winning team. Uh. He had a 414 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:55.200 lot to do with guys transferring in in the portal believing that we'll be able 415 00:26:55.240 --> 00:27:00.359 to win, help him believe in Jed's system. But when when when Noah 416 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.640 won a couple of games and kind of, you know, it kind of 417 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.400 quieted a little bit once you realize that coach was gonna go with the hot 418 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.160 end, which was Noah at the time, and jd L hadn't hadn't got 419 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.200 another opportunity. Uh most of the time, I'm one of the guys that 420 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.119 feel like, you know, Starter should get his chance to come back and 421 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.000 you know, and show what he got, get a few series or something 422 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.200 and show just just to keep him sharp and and and just to see that 423 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.759 if we do have a two quarterback system. But uh, Noah took over 424 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.079 it. Man, you got to give him respect, and you got to 425 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:36.400 give coach JDL respect for handling handling it the right way. And then also 426 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:41.279 coach Fish because you know they've done a tremendous job developing those guys. Okay, 427 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.640 so let me admit, do you I listen to you guys on the 428 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.400 post in pregame, I think you're probably one of the more realistic guys out 429 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:49.960 there. Glenn's a little too far on the other side. You know that, 430 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.720 right, Telvin, you know that right. So let me ask you 431 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:59.440 that we have Jake here all the time, and he predicted this, which 432 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.640 we thought I thought he was crazy, that there would win eight nine games, 433 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.319 blah blah blah. Okay, so when did you what did you think 434 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.119 of initially coming in and then what did you kind of maybe believe this was 435 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:14.400 in them. Well, I initially coming in thought that they would win anywhere 436 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.240 from six to seven game. I for sure thought that they would be a 437 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.480 bowl team this year. Year three. I just thought the talent had just 438 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.920 made a tremendous jump. And you know, bringing in coaching Keina, I 439 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.319 knew that that would you know, nothing against Nancy and then, but I 440 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.559 just knew having coaching Kena and his experience, that would give you like a 441 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.119 game and a half just with the way he fired you up. I've been 442 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:40.599 in the defensive back, defensive back, secondary meeting room with him, and 443 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.440 trust me, he'll get you fired up and pumped up and ready to go. 444 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.880 So I'm not surprised with that turnaround. But yeah, I thought anywhere 445 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.119 from six to seven. I think it's amazing what they've been able to do 446 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:56.440 to this point. Excited to see how how do they keep this going? 447 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.839 I mean, because to me, they're a little early for this type of 448 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.720 Yeah that and I think that's that's what's caught everybody's eye about this. This 449 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:10.200 happened so fast. So I think thinking back to your week uh uh for 450 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.720 the a SU game that year, you guys were still playing, you know, 451 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.000 potentially for a Rose Bowl. All you need to do is, you 452 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.559 know, have U c l A either keep winning or lose a conference game 453 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.960 going to the s U week. You know, as a player, what 454 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.119 what's the first thing on your mind, like that Monday, you know you 455 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.240 got in past, you just played your last game. Now it's a s 456 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680 U week. How do you prepare your mind for that game? And what's 457 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.960 the first thing that you think about when you think back to that time? 458 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.440 Man, the first thing I think about, And I didn't really have to 459 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.680 prepare a lot because the first thing I thought about with was those guys beating 460 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:52.480 us and and uh with Jay Clamber and they injured my teammate Daniel Greer with 461 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.359 one of their guys kind of took a not so good shot let's just call 462 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.319 it that, yeah, Daniel Greer and broke his ankle. Then you after 463 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.559 that count of the game to me was a little bit more personal. I 464 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.240 wasn't necessarily from Arizona, so I didn't have any personal mistake in the game. 465 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.000 Coming off the basketball team, it wasn't really a game. You know, 466 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.720 uc LA was more of our or Stanford was more of our rival in 467 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.200 basketball, so when that happened right there, Man, that they had a 468 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.559 they had an enemy for the duration of my career. Let's just say that. 469 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.079 So no, man, it was easy, real easy to get up 470 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.640 for every game you only get twelve, and that game was very important to 471 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.359 us because the last thing you wanted to do was let ask you. Like, 472 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.279 even right now, for our guys there on this winning streak, they're 473 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.920 doing great. The last thing you want to happen is to lose the ass 474 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.599 you It kind of just dampers everything. And I'm talking to them, guys, 475 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.400 they're talking to the team right now. It dampens everything that you've accomplished 476 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:53.400 to that point. It have a bivitaste in your mouth going too. Going 477 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.400 into the bowl game. You just don't want to lose to these guys, 478 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.559 especially in the year where they're not having any success. And no, we 479 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.079 don't have to feel sorry for them. I mean, first of all, 480 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.319 you just want to win. But no, we don't have to feel sorry 481 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.440 for them, because I don't remember them feel sorry for us when when they 482 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.000 beat us seventy to seven or whatever the score was right before you came on, 483 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.359 Jay, and then we're talking about and I asked Jay, do you 484 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.440 think that Jed Fish is a is a is an animated coach in the locker 485 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.720 room? Or did you get him fired up? And then we kind of 486 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.799 went to Dick Tomy, let's go, let's go to this question first and 487 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.640 then you can talk about the Jed thing just maybe if you don't if you 488 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.759 know or don't know, but did did Toby really get into it? Because 489 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.240 I know you were probably one of those guys that got into it with the 490 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.640 guys if they didn't, but it was Tony like that. Yeah, man, 491 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.359 coach Tommy was a great motivator man. He would get in there. 492 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.920 He would always have his saying stay together, and you know, just whatever. 493 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.480 He would come up when we always would have the T shirts that we 494 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.000 would always have, and he was more he was more motivating tart us and 495 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.279 us doing our job and you know, and things like that. You know, 496 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:57.839 and I would come in and sprinkle in, you know, a couple 497 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.000 of other good little thieves. Know, maybe you can't let these guys win 498 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.599 on our turf, in front of our fans, in front of our kids, 499 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.359 you know, in the fruiture, our kids are gonna look back on 500 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.440 this and judge us as father you know, I would throw I would throw 501 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.960 all cantless stuff in there, just to you know, to have our guys 502 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.880 remember that this is history, man, this is history. One day when 503 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.559 I go to Phoenix, I don't never feel nothing but joy and that timp. 504 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.519 I don't feel nothing but joy because I gotta win and record again. 505 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.400 I maybe lost one football game, in one basketball game, and all the 506 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.480 other games, you know, we beaten pretty good. So I feel good 507 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.720 when I go up there. I don't have no bitter feelings, you know. 508 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.319 I thought was interesting that you mentioned that that horrible game in ninety six 509 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.079 when they just crushed you guys, and ask you what you did when? 510 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.359 When when When that play occurred, when your your teammate got his ankle broken 511 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.799 and the b line you made and you know you took the flag for that. 512 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.759 It was one of the greatest players that I thought ever in Arizona football 513 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.200 history because because of what you did to stand up for your guy. But 514 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.960 remembering that game, you know, the guys on this team have the seventy 515 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.720 to seven game, how much can that help you? You know, walk 516 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.799 out there with little extra bounce in your step, a little more of a 517 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.200 chip on your shoulder about this game or whatever. How much does it really 518 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.440 help? Man? I got goosebumps just thinking about being in a situation like 519 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.119 that and now having an upper hand and having a team good enough behind me 520 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.039 to not necessarily get no revenge. But it's cart of revenge on your heart. 521 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.400 I mean, you won last year, but as a senior, I'm 522 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.480 thinking about Wiley, I'm thinking about Stoops and think about a big Jordan Margan. 523 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.400 Guys that had to take that beating and had to hear about that for 524 00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.519 a year, and you're still gonna hear about it regardless of how many times 525 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:49.400 you beat them. Man, you just want to make sure that you beat 526 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.759 those guys. It don't have to be a blowout. I would love to 527 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.240 see a blowout. It don't have to be. You can win by one 528 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.799 point, but you just have to make sure that those devils go back to 529 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:02.799 tenp with their head down. That's just the bottom line. So we got 530 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:08.559 about a minute left. Give me a give me a good prediction. Man. 531 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.679 You know what, I hate predicting this game because of the season is 532 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.840 over right now, the second third and see now you at that the third 533 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.400 part and the bowl game is the fourth part to me. So it's like 534 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.039 the third quarter, and man, it's hard to do this and I don't 535 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.360 like doing it. But I'll just say this. I know the Cats are 536 00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.599 gonna win. I don't want to say about the spread and none of that. 537 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.000 But I am a little superstitious when it comes to this part right here, 538 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.400 you know, because I know that this game means everything to ask you, 539 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.119 it means everything to us as well, and I know how easily it 540 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.960 could go against you if you don't just put all your focus on it. 541 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.360 So I'm gonna say Cats, but I'm not saying that out loud. Well, 542 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.880 we only have one listener, so you're good. I didn't say that 543 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.920 out loud. I'm not one of those front runners. Man, I'm not 544 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.840 one of those guys. It's already took curve and done, especially with a 545 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.320 team like that. Man, I just I don't trust a team that hasn't 546 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.960 really played well all year, being close in a few games. I don't 547 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.079 like that. I hate having to see a team at the end of the 548 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.800 year like that. Yeah, Okay, no, Kelvin, thanks a buch 549 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.079 Bunchvin, good job on your on the other guys on the other show. 550 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.239 Yeah, you did good with those guys. You appreciate it, Thank you 551 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:30.119 all, you know, and we can probably go on for a long time. 552 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.039 You remember that that but when he made that Belie, I just remember 553 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.559 we all were like that was one of the greatest things, with the greatest 554 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.079 things we've ever seen. That still stands out there like that. 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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is I 599 00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.760 on the Ball with Steve Braverera and Jay Gonzale on Fox Sports fourteenth fifth day. 600 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:12.800 Hey, welcome back to Wing the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. 601 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.119 I'm Steve, he's Jay, got Kevin with us keeping us in line. 602 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.000 Thank you getting us on the air. Thank you, Kevin. We 603 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.280 lost track. I'm sending you. I've said I've got. The UCLA Shamana 604 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.159 game on UCLA was up twenty eight to four early on, but Shamanat's come 605 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.760 back. It's thirty five twenty one. They're still getting beat by fourteen. 606 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:37.119 But but you know that's what let me do the math as seventeen to seven 607 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:42.400 runs something like that. So getting back in the game. But interesting stuff. 608 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.320 But they they you said, I played played tough last night two point 609 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.239 lest Marquette. Well that kind of just says to me that college basketball is 610 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.559 not Arizona's specific. It's going to be a lot of good teams, right, 611 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:58.800 Marquette's good, right, Tennessee's good right, produce good right. A 612 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.760 lot of teams are good, you know. And and you know Gonzaga got 613 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.599 beat by uh yes, Now people are starting to question, is you know 614 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.960 how good is Gonzaga or are they not? You know? We yeah, 615 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.480 it's November, it is it is Duke? How good is Duke? We 616 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.960 got to talk about stuff stuff. You guys even mentioned the defending national champions 617 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:21.360 right right, which just goes to your points about how deep the Kansas. 618 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.920 We haven't talked about the number one Kansas. So so many good teams. 619 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.039 It's that's what makes it so fun in market is and that's why we talk 620 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.320 about it now. Makes it fun in November too, though, you know, 621 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:31.880 you like seeing these games and talking about it, like, you know, 622 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.760 like this Michigan State Arizona game coming out. You know, Michigan State 623 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.199 now has three losses. You know, but do you you think Arizona's just 624 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.800 gonna walk in there and win that game without you know, without a lot 625 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.039 of trouble. Now, and here's here's the thing that you'll get to notice, 626 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.039 how tough. We talk about how much tough for Arizona is now we'll 627 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.840 see, right, Yeah, even if it's on reputation alone from Michigan state 628 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:59.039 state they're known for being a tough team. Well, here, here we 629 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.679 go. They're playing a tough you know, what's long been considered a tough 630 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.960 and physical conference. Let you know, let's see what this looks like. 631 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.280 Yeah, we'll roll that baby out onto the street again and see and take 632 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.559 a ride and see what we see how it works. Yeah, today, 633 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.280 today, Tommy Lloyd was on John Rothstein's podcast and he called it a street 634 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:15.360 fight. He said, you know, he's expecting a street fight. It's 635 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.440 gonna be tough. You know, is that those guys are He didn't say 636 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.760 looking to get this season back on track, but he said kind of looking 637 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:22.960 to get their season back on Yeah, he said it's early, but that's 638 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.760 what they're gonna do. But then, you know, they didn't expect to 639 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.960 be one and three right now, and he knows they're going to be coached 640 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.320 really hard this weekend. Ear to come out of fight. If that's expected 641 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.760 to be a street part. What was the Princeton game? What was the 642 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.360 Princeton that was not a street fight. No, I was that a math 643 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.679 test. I'm not even sure what you would call that, Steve, because 644 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.079 it wasn't you know, it wasn't a street fight. It was it was 645 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.360 I don't know, it was just one team showed up and one team didn't. 646 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.480 Well, it's what it did for the first half, and they had 647 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.079 a twe point leading. Yeah, and then they did what they did most 648 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.679 of the year, right, they tried to coast in and Princeton didn't you 649 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.960 know, they didn't you know, they didn't didn't take into account the fact 650 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.079 that they were playing the Nancy DOAA tournament team, right, a team that 651 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.239 had had a pretty good season, was confident in itself and wasn't going to 652 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.760 back down. Yeah, no, I could. I was there on the 653 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.000 sideline thinking, these guys look like they don't know what's going on. And 654 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.800 they played like it too. They didn't couldn't get a guy to score, 655 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.519 and they couldn't get a rebound. And had they gotten two or three of 656 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:31.360 those, they win that game. No again, but again that in the 657 00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:37.360 end, if if it did, if it caused Tommy to do what he 658 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:43.079 did this year, which is turned the roster and figure out what pieces he 659 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.880 didn't have and go get those pieces to create what you know, as we 660 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:52.559 talked with Matt Melbach yesterday, a team that has got pieces all over the 661 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.599 place, you know, then then okay, then if you get something out 662 00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.559 of it, like like what you know, like what air's on the guy 663 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.320 out of East Tennessee State back when you know the sure when they be there. 664 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.599 You know they were on four the next year. No, after Santa 665 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.960 Claia, Yeah, it was East Tennessee State and then second but they you 666 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.599 know, they went out and fixed any changed the style exactly. Got a 667 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.559 call, we got a call, Hi, you're on the air and I 668 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:21.639 on the ball. Yeah. Uh, why did you guys to rank these 669 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:27.400 four things on your own of most embarrassing? So allowed to Princeton Basketball lost 670 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.119 to Santa Clara in the nineties. Basketball lost the Big AU football in the 671 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:37.599 seventy one and then lost n a U football. Wait a second, Wait 672 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:45.000 a second, what was the third one the big board? Let me give 673 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:46.920 you one more to put it in the fifth place. The Chicago loss, 674 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.920 the Illinois loss, Illinois loss, and then when they were on the verge 675 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.599 of gooding. But I mean Illinois, I mean Illinois mean they have fourteen 676 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.400 point lead with five minutes. I from where I said, I think you 677 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.159 start with the seventy to seven loss, because that will never ever ever go 678 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.440 away, ever, ever ever even I mean, I mean, yeah, 679 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:17.039 yeah, because I think, well, you're probably right, You're probably right, 680 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.280 but I still, man, it's a it's a tough call. I 681 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.480 guess I guess the seventy seven because just how you know, because of the 682 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.239 rivalry and how meaningful that is, and a year like a SU was lost 683 00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.960 to an a you know, years ago, so it can happen. And 684 00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.599 then I think I put the I put the two basketball losses, uh, 685 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:43.000 you know, after that, because yeah, because you know, Arizona bounced 686 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.119 back from those things, so and again, to me, I'm a more 687 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:50.000 of a football guy, right, somebody might say that back, and somebody, 688 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.239 Steve might go with yours and say that that Illinois thing, how devastating 689 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.960 that was. Maybe that falls more in less embarrassing and more as you say, 690 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:04.519 devastating, Louke would have gun to Yeah, yeah, right, but 691 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.519 but your you're put to your point, Yeah, those are pretty big things, 692 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.840 man, that's you know what, Thanks for bringing those up all at 693 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:15.559 once. He's gonna go into his fetal position right now? Yeah, Now, 694 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:16.679 I just wanted to figure out what you got that money on, So 695 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:21.679 I see that might have been Yeah, no, good point, toss up 696 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:29.199 forty to fifty one. I need a pack of life savers now, something 697 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.239 to get me over that. Thanks for calling bad memories. He appreciate it. 698 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:35.920 Thanks, thanks, thanks for coming. That's a tough call. I 699 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.760 mean, how do you how do you how do you rate your worst days 700 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.519 ever? Right? Right? No, if you're gonna let a story about 701 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.440 about the rise and climb of of jetfish, where do you start? But 702 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.320 right there? Yeah? Yeah, the n AU game and talking about talking 703 00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.760 about hitting bottom for him, he looked miserable that night. He looked like 704 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:04.480 his dog, his disease, everybody somebody wrecked his car. It was I 705 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.639 remember watching him come off the field. Uh, And I'm like, I 706 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.559 don't even want to know what his stomach feels like. You know, right 707 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.840 now, could you imagine just kind of losing it? Just what the hell 708 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.440 did I get myself into? But look look at and and I'm sure the 709 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:23.519 way Jed would look at it, because it can't get worse than this. 710 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.519 It's all up from here, sure, right, Everything it gets better from 711 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.199 here on. It's funny though. The color brings it up. The big 712 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.639 loss the end of the year, big loss to start the year, right 713 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:44.639 right, yeah all the time. Yeah yeah, two of the worst all 714 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:50.239 time things. It was. Yeah, it was in a stretch of four 715 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:54.079 games because they played two games already. Yeah yeah, YU was the third 716 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.360 game. Who did the play the first day they they opened with the Remember 717 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.000 they opened the b YU that was she was like a million years ago they 718 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.360 opened at b YU. I was here in San Diego. Steak kicked their 719 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.159 asses, okay, and then and then they like, I would you opened 720 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.920 against them? My god, I couldn't remember that. But that was a 721 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:14.559 stretch of four games. I mean remember the San Diego State game. It 722 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.239 was twenty one to nothing, like in no time flat. Yeah, you 723 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.440 know, well the b WYU game, you're thinking, what are you thinking? 724 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.360 We thought we came out of you. Why are you thinking? Hey, 725 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.559 maybe it's not so bad? Right right? Two weeks later, so 726 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.159 the two we like, how did you get this bad? But how did 727 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.760 you get that bad? And it did get no color? Hi, you're 728 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.880 on the air and on the ball. Hey guys, how you doing? 729 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.800 What's up? Power? Hey, so whatever the whatever the spread is from 730 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:46.039 Michigan State, I'll take the Cats and I'll give five more points on top 731 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.679 of whatever you're giving them. You. I don't know that we have a 732 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.039 line on that yet. I would say about seven or eight. But everyone 733 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.800 everyone has won three straight games by thirty, is that right? Yeah? 734 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.440 Yeah, and and and and and because I listened the whole day yesterday, 735 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.960 and you're so right, Jay, you know, I feel sorry fans. 736 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.320 It'll show up. That was a perfect game for them not to show to 737 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.480 show up on yeah on Saturday. Yeah, there wasn't any reason not to. 738 00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.679 Howard, did you go? No? I remember, I'm not a 739 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.400 football guy. If I would have had a ticket, I would have went. 740 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.599 You know that. That's crazy, my wife, because this is so 741 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.480 up. I got charity. You. There can be many people in the 742 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.079 stands. I didn't say that, but it's pretty obvious. They gave them 743 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.719 a way to you guys, you know, the season ticket holders. Was 744 00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.440 there still some for the public to get to? I guess yeah, yeah, 745 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.239 right, No, I hear you, I hear you. Yeah, 746 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.079 there's no line yet on the Michigan State game. I bet it, but 747 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:50.679 I bet it's under six. Well, like I said, I put five 748 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.519 more on top of it. They're gonna win by that much whatever it is. 749 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.679 Yeah, I agree with you, Howard. I agree, that's how 750 00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:00.079 Oh and even as they'll set himself forget the tough. They're tough, and 751 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.159 you guys are saying but I guess Jay mentioned physical. That's what Izoe said. 752 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.239 Yeah, U of A is very physical and they're scared about that. 753 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:13.000 Well, sometimes when you say things, you really really don't mean things. 754 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.079 Oh, I know, but they're they're they're really bad. It's going to 755 00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.079 have a hard time from them to write the ship. I mean when you're 756 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:22.639 one and three, they're going to take a while to dig out of that. 757 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:30.039 Have you have you watched Arizona basketball much already? Oh? Yeah, 758 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.159 so, but listen to it and I've watched. I mean I've been paying 759 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.440 attention to it. They've got four games, they scored four hundred points. 760 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.159 One hundred point. Well, let me just ask you this. What impressed 761 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.480 you the impresses you the most? Oh my gosh. The newcomers are great. 762 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.480 They're the freshman, the whole thing. And I was the Red Blue 763 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.159 game. That was it, and that's all I needed to see. And 764 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:58.119 and and just to think if we don't have Henry Vasar, I think our 765 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.880 strength is all the way. We're one deep at every position, and it's 766 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.039 it's just the depth is going to be fantastic. He's got a lot to 767 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:12.239 work with. He he don't try to steal our job. Yeah, at 768 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.000 nine o'clock, I could have went to the game, am I to get 769 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.840 ahold of you? I could have went to that game on Friday because the 770 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.639 two tickets, but because none of their donors my wife works at the u 771 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.840 of A, and the donors didn't want to go that late, you know. 772 00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.559 But but I from now on next year, I'll go to all the 773 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.440 late games no matter what. All right, thanks much, thank you? 774 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.599 Yeah, now, yeah, I again looking forward to this. Michigan State 775 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:45.159 came, but just another play just to see. Okay, how meaningful was 776 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.000 it? The Duke game? Yeah? In the gage just how right? 777 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.559 You just you just watch Jay a month ago? What you were thinking? 778 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:59.280 They won't be Duke right, probably won't be Michigan and Pdue obviously we'll see, 779 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.079 we'll see when we get there. But they're all winnable now yeah, 780 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.639 yeah, right, yeah, every one of them. No pressure, none, 781 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.400 none, whatsoever. But you know what, Tommy doesn't feel it. 782 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.280 No, you know why. You know why he does not. You know 783 00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:14.760 why. And I've seen him in a number of things. He was at 784 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:21.400 the camp too, He's owned he owned Princeton, he owned in what exactly 785 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.559 I learned from it. I'm gonna we wear this and be better. Yeah. 786 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.239 Sometimes coaches don't do that. Yeah, they kind of think that what 787 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.119 I was doing was just right. Yeah, and I'm just gonna keep doing 788 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.159 that. It was a one off or whatever. Again and again you go 789 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.639 back to as he as he mentioned the manic when we're talking about he says 790 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.679 he stayed that made Luke James the way the way he did that. Yeah, 791 00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.639 after after Santa Clara, they went they were big and they went small. 792 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.239 Yeah, and so you know it, h it uh. And that's 793 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:51.519 what makes a great coach. Yeah, you have to be able to well 794 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.519 you do we know if im Alloyd's a great coach? Yet still not you 795 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.320 know, well, this is pretty damn. I kind of write Sean every 796 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.719 now and again, and I'll say he just didn't want to change. We 797 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.280 guess what's now he changed at all? He changed. He's got his Xavier 798 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.320 back up to where you know, where they were when he was it's not 799 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.920 it's not a sentence to change. It's not not, but I refuse to. 800 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:15.199 All right, we'll be back with breaking news. Kevin's got it and 801 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.840 we'll have lots to talk about, and then Brian Jefferies in the at about 802 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.000 four twenty, so stick around.