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Jacob Zaus. Got our guy Kevin in today for Tuesday and our last show
of the week, Our last show of the week. Merry Christmas, thank
Happy Thanksgiving, every all that whatever. We'll be back. Actually we'll be
back next week. Yeah we will. You know. Yeah, we could
take it oneth and a half off, but you know, we need we
need it. We need we need tomorrow off to get ready to eat.
Yeah yeah, then we need Thursday off to eat. Uh huh. Then
we need Friday off to get recover from the eating. I'm gonna go somewhere
where I should never go because I really don't want to know the answer.
But do you already have your stretching pads available? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
oh yeah. You know it's a it's a all day think for us
because you know, back one hundred years ago, we started a turkey bowl,
right, and so we so now all the all the dads and everybody
we don't play in, our kids play, so that that starts. That
starts at nine o'clock in the morning. So they do that for a couple
of hours. Then most you know, we're the hosts for our family Thanksgiving,
for my brothers and everybody. So we uh so everybody comes to our
house after the turkey ball, So they're there all day and we're watching football
and everybody's in their stretchy pants. So and then we eat and then we
lay around in our stretching pants again. After that. We can probably see
there's some coaching shorts and ball coaching coaching, maybe those yester things. Oh
man, remember we played softball in and yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got more of the baggy basketball shorts going. I could probably put one leg
into my old ones. Now, that's all. We were hot in those.
What do you mean, wen, we weren't fat yet, we were
not fat three fat days. I wouldn't, man, I wouldn't exactly what
I can't even imagine, I mean, what that would look like right now,
get them to my knees and said never mind. Yeah, hey,
everybody you want to call, please do we watch Show of the week.
We're gonna be making our picks on our own by Thursday. Right now,
somebody will make them. Maybe by Thursday we'll post them up on our social
pick. I don't I don't know if I'll pick anything on Thursday. Yeah.
Well we both had the crap ass chiefs last night. Man, play
with your food and see what happens. Yeah, that's exactly what, Play
with your food. It's like, you know, they play around. They
dominated that game except for that bomb. Yeah, they were up ten.
I'm like, I got this, I got this, and then they pooped
the proverbial bed good, get out of here. You know what again,
as I said, at least as decency lose that they weren't going to cover,
right, they didn't cover, So they lost. Great. They had
every chance to win the game in so many ways and they didn't. Twell,
it's just what it is. Well, you know, and all the
all the all the Travis Kelsey, you know conversation. You know what he
was thinking about, Taylor instead of thinking about catching that freaking ball. That
question like that, I don't know that's funny because that'd be stupid. Question.
But it'd be funny answer. I'm sure you know, because she wasn't
at the game, right, so he wasn't showing off for her. So
and the other girlfriends say, what about me and my Childboliver? Yes,
compared to her, Well, she's just famous. Yeah, she's just famous
and very very wealthy and very well. There's two two. Okay, she's
a little hote, not your type. No comment, no comment. If
I say yes, I'm bad. If I say no, I'm bad,
I'm saying no comment. I don't know the matter with you guys. Answer,
no answer, babe, Hey you know why? As Jordan said,
Republicans by Tennis, Hue, soda, Democrats, God anyway. But yeah,
I'm very upset with the Chiefs, upset with the Lions. They both
both those games, both those teams this weekend pissed me off. Yeah.
More importantly, the Cats go up to the game on Sunday, I think
they're twelve, page twelve. You gonna say something, Oh no, the
football, the line, I think it's gone to twelve. They've gained two
points. I have not seen that. I told me last night last night,
and I think, oh wow, from ten to twelve could be even
higher. Now, well, people are jumping on you know, people are
finding out about them, right, yeah, you know, I mean,
well, let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Both
you guys, uh, nationally nationally, Who isn't Arizona one of the top
one or two stories nationally? That's I mean, there's a lot of people
saying that who they should be? Like the national shows that I listened to,
what are they saying? You know, they're saying that Arizona is one
of the one of the more compelling stories of the year, right because of
the turnaround, because and because I think part of it, Steve is because
Jedfish was not seen as a great hire not you know, while he was
a football coach for Numbers Together, never played football. He is a tennis
player. Right, so the odds, you know, people felt the odds
were stacked. Again. It was kind of you know a lot of people
made fun of the hire and then this has happened and people are going,
holy hell, you know, we did we miss on this? So yeah,
so you know, let me say this. I think that he's the
guy that ASU hoped Herman would be. And I say that. I say
that because he's the CEO of the grid and Jed is that guy, not
that he's not a football coach, because you could tell he's got a lot
of trick plays under his sleeve. And I was play calling and then he
knows how to handle people. Uh. But you know what I'm saying,
her was supposed to be that guy bringing in some pretty good coaches and then
works from magic, right, and and and and he you know, and
so I think it was he was saying, it's not somebody that you would
think could do this, right, that Arizona went on the cheap, got
somebody inexpensive, got somebody that nobody else was after, and kind of like,
Okay, come what did you think exactly that? Right? You know,
honestly, I don't know anybody who didn't think otherwise. You're in the
You're if there's a box here, you're in that box. I mean,
I'm more in that box than in the box of oh this this is There's
nobody in that box. There's nobody box unless your name is fish. Yeah.
And so you know, so I think that that adds to the story.
You know, You're like, I went I went to watch the full
sixty minute version of the game. You know, and just you know,
the announcers in the game, just you know, and Yogi Roth was one
of them, you know, just talking about how guys, this is,
this is one of the biggest stories in college football. They're they're kind of
like somebody called them the darlings of college football, Like everybody's rooting for them
because they've been so bad and all of a sudden they're good. You know.
That kind of stuff is what it is. What you hear, Well,
they're still in love with Dion and maybe it's not the right word.
Well, they're quoting the hell out of him every chance I get. Yeah,
but he's also going to finish in the last place. Yeah. And
no, at the end of the day, that's where the water fell.
Yeah, and and so the shine came off of that. And and now
it's kind of like, wow, Arizona's story. He hasn't brought any receipts
to the table in a long time because there's no reason to be shopping hume,
right, No, no, right, yeah, talk about the line
for theirs for the AIG. It's still ten and a half. But really,
Okay, so someone told me last night was hard rock? Uh hard
rock? Uh? Uh? Sports book. Hasma has it at nine in
it well, and everybody else is still at ten and a half. The
only thing I'm concerned about is something that the jet is not concerned about,
is uh, Well, it's not that he's not concerned. I'm more concerned
about the craziness that happens in this game because there's things that you could never
even think of when it happens, and you know, and and and and
you kind of be worried if you know, if one side of the ball
versus the other was you know, if there's not the balance that they have,
Yeah, on both sides of the ball, because I feel like if
the offense doesn't have a great day, well the defense, you know,
can hold it together and vice versa. Uh and so I shouldn't even say
this, but I'm gonna say it. I'm I am less worried about this
one than I have been for this game in a really long time. Yeah,
you just changed it, I did. But but you know, I
understand Steve A. S u is really bad. I understand that I'm gonna
making fun of him. I'm not saying that to make fun of him.
They're a very bad team right now. I think it's wasn't it the same
thing three four years ago? Whatever? Wherever the Issue came in thinking these
guys suck, and then they did and they did it sucked as bad as
anybody it sucked in this rivalry ever. And and look, I'm not sitting
here thinking Orizon is gonna go up there and put a fifty on them or
whatever. I just feel like Arizona is so solid across the board that even
if Face Who plays its best game, I don't think they can beat it.
Yeah, because I'll say, I'll say I don't think they should beat
them. But again, you have to guard against all the weird stuff that
can happen, and and and and sometimes it does. You know, some
some somebody gets loose and and and goes crazy and does things there. Yeah,
you get an injury or whatever, anyone of a number thing. But
Issue doesn't even have a quarterback right now, what does the kid say?
Yeah, yes, the game. I mean, honestly, I think we
really could put something on him this weekend, uh like kind of what Jay
was talking about. And we're just better all around, really well more well
rounded football team, better coached then we have, we have something going for
us. Yeah, were you Were you a student when they hammered seventy to
seven year? Yeah? How did that feel? I didn't we were bad?
So yeah, I didn't really care because, like because I had no
expectation for the football team to impress me at all. So this is the
first year where I feel like there are actual expectations. Yeah. And when
you said that, he jink said, I was thinking. I was like,
well, we kind of have to stop thinking that way, because I
think this is actually a football program now. Yeah, you know what I
mean? Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly the exactly one you know,
from Washington State onto this last week. You kind of had the little
doubts in your head about whether they're really that good. Right, you have
to let that go and say they're really that good. Here's the problem though,
once you start letting that go, well we can we can do that,
they can't do it right, right, right? They can't do that.
They can't. And I'd like to I wonder do you think he gets
fired up jet jet with him? Yeah? You do? Oh yeah,
like how do you see that? Do you see it? Like the locker
room videos and stuff like? Maybe not like you know, he's a he's
a he's a motivational Parker kind of guy. You know, go watch the
go watch the you know, the Sounds of the season that that that's the
department does for each game, just even just the last one. They even
show him in there at halftimes, you know, saying, you know,
this is the last thirty minutes a lot of you're gonna play or this is
the last thirty minutes we're playing on this field this year. What's is the
presentation? Though? What's his? What's his? Oh? I mean he
is he is he fire brimstone guy. No, but he does get animated.
Football Instagram puts out some pretty good content after games when we do win.
Uh well, I see the singing and the dancing and he was pretty
fair. The sound of the Sounds of the season thing, which great videos
that he's got that you have a football program. Does they do one for
for I think every win. I don't know if they do it for every
game. I think they do them for every win. And uh the one,
this the one this week you get you catch Jed pre game and then
you even catch him at halftime. So he's you know, he's he's motivating.
He tries to motivate these guys with his he gives speeches, is what
I'm saying. You know, is he you know, throwing stuff around and
you know, tearing things apart. He's not doing that, but he's you
know, he's telling these guys you know how much this should mean to that.
To me, it would be more like he's more of a philosopher type
of coach. You know, he gets excited and loud and animated and stuff.
Okay to me, okay, being that you know, I'm twenty years
older than him, and you know, it's like my kid trying to you
know, get me excited. I tell you, you know, it doesn't.
It doesn't resonate as much to me, and I assume it resonates with
the player. Yeah, well it's much better than the weekend at Bernie's.
Guy that they had before just wasn't wasn't really there. Honestly, he was
with no emotion or as Gabe would call him, Kevin Bumblin. That's a
good one one. No, No, he's you know, he does he
does the whole deal, and I feel like he doesn in a way that
he helps these guys think of things that they might not be thinking. Yeah,
which is great because he is smart like that, right, he is
smart like that. He's been around excuse and he's been around coaches that have
been really good motivators, right right, without having to be you know,
crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he is. He is nonchalant,
but in a you know, good nonchalant because I mean, you know,
those of us who've been around for one hundred years, you know heard
the legends of Tom Rogman and and the and the speeches that you know he
would tear a locker room apart. Yeah. Well, and and you know
Dick was and wasn't depends on the time, right, if you really pissed,
had guys there that did, right, We're gonna have Dwayne and Keenan
those Oh, I have one of the guys to the players, well the
players, KiB and Kim Calvinian who you know a lot And we'll we'll see
if if he I'm sure he's had to have heard this, but you know,
Calvin Ethan was has long been considered the guy who was sort of the
heart and soul of that team. He was a captain, he was a
leader. He was a don't take any crap kind of guy that a lot
of people feel that without him that team would not have done what it did
going twelve and one and really being one game away from playing for championship,
not just and we'll talk about the importance of that. So I just got
a text. How do I find Sounds of the Season. Uh, you
can probably find it. And you can find it on you have a Facebook
page, on their on their Twitter, Google wor Google maybe yeah, on
the Twitter county. It's on YouTube. Go to YouTube YouTube Arizona Sounds of
the Season on YouTube and you and you'll find him. They're all there for
the whole season. We'll do that as well. Yeah. And then uh,
then Brian Jefferies, we're gonna we're gonna get him in one last time
before he heads off to all these things he's got going this week. He's
got the Michigan State game on Thursday. Yeah, uh in basketball, and
then he's got the he'll be back and he'll do the A SU game on
Saturdays. We want to talk to Brian Jefferies probably about both of these things.
Yeah, I'm going I don't know do we did we ever ask him
what's his what his favorite A s U Arizona No, No, I was
just wanting to ask him favorite moments, you know, crazy times. Remember
the old uniforms. I think you come to the team. Oh yeah,
yeah, that was Marmy, right, Larry Marmy, Yeah yeah, Larry
Army. Okay, all right, we'll take our break. We'll be right
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I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to
my I on the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.
You're Jagon jaws Ian phone. We have Kelvin Ephon, former U of
A captain in nineteen ninety eight. Let me say this real quick. I
just gotta know Toby said this of Efon. I'm not not sure what your
action will be, Kelvin. If we could play all play as hard as
Kelvin did and as tough as he was, or if we could all play
as hard and as tough as Kevin is, we would win every game because
that sound man, you know, that's that's that's my that's that's that's my
coach. Man, that's my uh, that's my guy, coach tell me
man. He always expressed that to me, So I know that was Sincere.
I know that's how he really felt, Kelvin. You know, we
talked to Barrett Baker, one of your teammates from that ninety eight team,
and tried to you know, he said that there was a feeling, you
know, even late the year before that you guys were going to be special
in ninety eight. When did you know that ninety eight that that team was
gonna be, you know, very special. Maybe maybe you didn't predict that
we're gonna go twelve and one, but certainly we're gonna have a great season.
Yeah, I agree with Barrett. I think I think that year will
wind it up. I think we lost our we were like one in four
and then we won like six games of five games and to be as u
to get to the Insight dot Com Bow, and then we just had some
great practices. So I think it's that that Bowl game practices when which which
is which I think is gonna be important for the U of a team.
I think that's gonna be a chance for them to have an even more special
season in this year. Taking those bowl game extra practices, you just seem
to build a bond and you get a lot of work done because you were
with you who you were back in the captain and the motivator guy. Uh,
could you talk about what how you felt the importance of that was for
that team? Well, well, I thought I thought it was important.
Uh, you know, being a leader, you you have to understand that
sometimes the coaches only could get so far with communicating with with with with it
basically being their job. You know, when another teammate know it's coming from
your heart and they're watching you every day work and grind with them, Uh,
they just they just hear you a little bit better. So I knew
from my high school days, and you know, I probably was the captain
of every team I was on. So I knew from my early days that
if I could communicate what the coaches were trying to get, you know,
basically on on the players level, that we could probably go a little bit
farther. So that team, you know, as we all remember, got
off to great start. You had that, you had that that thing that
happened at Washington. Uh, you come back and you know it's all on
the line against u c L. A you lost, but you know you
still finish tonight, still won the rest of your games, including beating as
U. How did you avoid some sort of a letdown after that U c
L A game that you know that ended up meaning so much? Yeah,
you know that team. I always said that to me, that's wherever one
stems, and that one loss was huge because I feel like we got a
chance to really show what type of character we had as a group. Uh.
You know, Coach Tomy used to always talk about the front runners and
people that when things are always going their way, you know things are good.
But when things soon as things go bad, those you know, those
people crumble. And I just think that we had a chance to show everybody
and show the next teams that were coming alone behind us that, you know
what, we took that l but to be great, we got to step
back up and go a game at a time and prove to ourselves that we
are the team that we thought we were. And I was just proud that
we were able to win every game after that. Is U then went on
to beat the Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl. Well, we're just very proud
to be a part of that because again, you took that loss, a
lot of teams would have folded and we wouldn't have been able to accomplish those
type of goals. Knowing knowing, uh, you know, you were the
captain, knowing what you know it takes to be a captain. Can you
sense from Afar who is this year's captain? Uh? Man? You know
what? This is one of those teams that I think have a few camp
first and foremost, I think my new Minu on that defensive side of the
ball, even though he's a young young I think a red turf freshman or
a sophomore, I think he's a leader by example and also by for us
I watched him. I think Trading Stoops is a guy in the defensive backfield.
Uh uh that that I also think is the leader. And on that
defensive line, Big Bill Bill Morgan, it does that's name Marton Norton,
Big Bill Norton. Yeah, I think I think you know he's and in
with one year, but coming from Georgia with that winning pedigree. I think
he's rubbed off on the guys as well. And then just the culture of
those you know, the Simon and the Polynesian, you know people man just
just just their culture. And then on the offensive side of the ball,
I think Jonah uh Margan, Jordan Margan, the big offensive line, the
kind of quiet guy but there by example of real steady. And then you
know, quiet leader is another quiet leaders I think is uh Noah Fafita.
I mean, I just think the way that he plays and the way that
he carries himself. Uh. Sometimes they don't always have to be verbal.
Sometimes it's just the action. And I scored a lot of touchdowns. Sometimes
people think about my leadership about you know, my talk. Trust me,
it was my physical play that the guys really respected and that's why they I
could get that ear a little bit. Yeah, he had a mess of
touchdowns that year. As I recall, you were the you were the guy
inside the five yard line. Let me ask you when when the when the
quarterback thing cropped up this year between you with Jaden the Lord he got hurt
and it comes in plays really well, you know, everybody's waiting for Jayden
to come back. And is he going to get the job or not?
Could you have you been ever been in a situation where something like that actually
went bad, you know, where where a locker room got divided or anyone
of her number of things because that you know, if those two guys hadn't
been good guys, that could have gone bad. Yeah, I have I
haven't been a part of it because you know, most of the teams I
would. I mean, I've never been on the team where it was necessary
quarterback led. Uh, so that that that never really was a problem.
Any team I was on, we was always the next guy up, regardless
of the situation. Uh. I thought it was a little unique with this
team because of all the work. I felt like that jd L helped you
to put Arizona's position to have a winning team. Uh. He had a
lot to do with guys transferring in in the portal believing that we'll be able
to win, help him believe in Jed's system. But when when when Noah
won a couple of games and kind of, you know, it kind of
quieted a little bit once you realize that coach was gonna go with the hot
end, which was Noah at the time, and jd L hadn't hadn't got
another opportunity. Uh most of the time, I'm one of the guys that
feel like, you know, Starter should get his chance to come back and
you know, and show what he got, get a few series or something
and show just just to keep him sharp and and and just to see that
if we do have a two quarterback system. But uh, Noah took over
it. Man, you got to give him respect, and you got to
give coach JDL respect for handling handling it the right way. And then also
coach Fish because you know they've done a tremendous job developing those guys. Okay,
so let me admit, do you I listen to you guys on the
post in pregame, I think you're probably one of the more realistic guys out
there. Glenn's a little too far on the other side. You know that,
right, Telvin, you know that right. So let me ask you
that we have Jake here all the time, and he predicted this, which
we thought I thought he was crazy, that there would win eight nine games,
blah blah blah. Okay, so when did you what did you think
of initially coming in and then what did you kind of maybe believe this was
in them. Well, I initially coming in thought that they would win anywhere
from six to seven game. I for sure thought that they would be a
bowl team this year. Year three. I just thought the talent had just
made a tremendous jump. And you know, bringing in coaching Keina, I
knew that that would you know, nothing against Nancy and then, but I
just knew having coaching Kena and his experience, that would give you like a
game and a half just with the way he fired you up. I've been
in the defensive back, defensive back, secondary meeting room with him, and
trust me, he'll get you fired up and pumped up and ready to go.
So I'm not surprised with that turnaround. But yeah, I thought anywhere
from six to seven. I think it's amazing what they've been able to do
to this point. Excited to see how how do they keep this going?
I mean, because to me, they're a little early for this type of
Yeah that and I think that's that's what's caught everybody's eye about this. This
happened so fast. So I think thinking back to your week uh uh for
the a SU game that year, you guys were still playing, you know,
potentially for a Rose Bowl. All you need to do is, you
know, have U c l A either keep winning or lose a conference game
going to the s U week. You know, as a player, what
what's the first thing on your mind, like that Monday, you know you
got in past, you just played your last game. Now it's a s
U week. How do you prepare your mind for that game? And what's
the first thing that you think about when you think back to that time?
Man, the first thing I think about, And I didn't really have to
prepare a lot because the first thing I thought about with was those guys beating
us and and uh with Jay Clamber and they injured my teammate Daniel Greer with
one of their guys kind of took a not so good shot let's just call
it that, yeah, Daniel Greer and broke his ankle. Then you after
that count of the game to me was a little bit more personal. I
wasn't necessarily from Arizona, so I didn't have any personal mistake in the game.
Coming off the basketball team, it wasn't really a game. You know,
uc LA was more of our or Stanford was more of our rival in
basketball, so when that happened right there, Man, that they had a
they had an enemy for the duration of my career. Let's just say that.
So no, man, it was easy, real easy to get up
for every game you only get twelve, and that game was very important to
us because the last thing you wanted to do was let ask you. Like,
even right now, for our guys there on this winning streak, they're
doing great. The last thing you want to happen is to lose the ass
you It kind of just dampers everything. And I'm talking to them, guys,
they're talking to the team right now. It dampens everything that you've accomplished
to that point. It have a bivitaste in your mouth going too. Going
into the bowl game. You just don't want to lose to these guys,
especially in the year where they're not having any success. And no, we
don't have to feel sorry for them. I mean, first of all,
you just want to win. But no, we don't have to feel sorry
for them, because I don't remember them feel sorry for us when when they
beat us seventy to seven or whatever the score was right before you came on,
Jay, and then we're talking about and I asked Jay, do you
think that Jed Fish is a is a is an animated coach in the locker
room? Or did you get him fired up? And then we kind of
went to Dick Tomy, let's go, let's go to this question first and
then you can talk about the Jed thing just maybe if you don't if you
know or don't know, but did did Toby really get into it? Because
I know you were probably one of those guys that got into it with the
guys if they didn't, but it was Tony like that. Yeah, man,
coach Tommy was a great motivator man. He would get in there.
He would always have his saying stay together, and you know, just whatever.
He would come up when we always would have the T shirts that we
would always have, and he was more he was more motivating tart us and
us doing our job and you know, and things like that. You know,
and I would come in and sprinkle in, you know, a couple
of other good little thieves. Know, maybe you can't let these guys win
on our turf, in front of our fans, in front of our kids,
you know, in the fruiture, our kids are gonna look back on
this and judge us as father you know, I would throw I would throw
all cantless stuff in there, just to you know, to have our guys
remember that this is history, man, this is history. One day when
I go to Phoenix, I don't never feel nothing but joy and that timp.
I don't feel nothing but joy because I gotta win and record again.
I maybe lost one football game, in one basketball game, and all the
other games, you know, we beaten pretty good. So I feel good
when I go up there. I don't have no bitter feelings, you know.
I thought was interesting that you mentioned that that horrible game in ninety six
when they just crushed you guys, and ask you what you did when?
When when When that play occurred, when your your teammate got his ankle broken
and the b line you made and you know you took the flag for that.
It was one of the greatest players that I thought ever in Arizona football
history because because of what you did to stand up for your guy. But
remembering that game, you know, the guys on this team have the seventy
to seven game, how much can that help you? You know, walk
out there with little extra bounce in your step, a little more of a
chip on your shoulder about this game or whatever. How much does it really
help? Man? I got goosebumps just thinking about being in a situation like
that and now having an upper hand and having a team good enough behind me
to not necessarily get no revenge. But it's cart of revenge on your heart.
I mean, you won last year, but as a senior, I'm
thinking about Wiley, I'm thinking about Stoops and think about a big Jordan Margan.
Guys that had to take that beating and had to hear about that for
a year, and you're still gonna hear about it regardless of how many times
you beat them. Man, you just want to make sure that you beat
those guys. It don't have to be a blowout. I would love to
see a blowout. It don't have to be. You can win by one
point, but you just have to make sure that those devils go back to
tenp with their head down. That's just the bottom line. So we got
about a minute left. Give me a give me a good prediction. Man.
You know what, I hate predicting this game because of the season is
over right now, the second third and see now you at that the third
part and the bowl game is the fourth part to me. So it's like
the third quarter, and man, it's hard to do this and I don't
like doing it. But I'll just say this. I know the Cats are
gonna win. I don't want to say about the spread and none of that.
But I am a little superstitious when it comes to this part right here,
you know, because I know that this game means everything to ask you,
it means everything to us as well, and I know how easily it
could go against you if you don't just put all your focus on it.
So I'm gonna say Cats, but I'm not saying that out loud. Well,
we only have one listener, so you're good. I didn't say that
out loud. I'm not one of those front runners. Man, I'm not
one of those guys. It's already took curve and done, especially with a
team like that. Man, I just I don't trust a team that hasn't
really played well all year, being close in a few games. I don't
like that. I hate having to see a team at the end of the
year like that. Yeah, Okay, no, Kelvin, thanks a buch
Bunchvin, good job on your on the other guys on the other show.
Yeah, you did good with those guys. You appreciate it, Thank you
all, you know, and we can probably go on for a long time.
You remember that that but when he made that Belie, I just remember
we all were like that was one of the greatest things, with the greatest
things we've ever seen. That still stands out there like that. All right,
take our break, we're gonna come back. We've got Brian Jeffers in
the second hour, but we'll take your cause by from zero four one seventy
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on the Ball with Steve Braverera and Jay Gonzale on Fox Sports fourteenth fifth day.
Hey, welcome back to Wing the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
I'm Steve, he's Jay, got Kevin with us keeping us in line.
Thank you getting us on the air. Thank you, Kevin. We
lost track. I'm sending you. I've said I've got. The UCLA Shamana
game on UCLA was up twenty eight to four early on, but Shamanat's come
back. It's thirty five twenty one. They're still getting beat by fourteen.
But but you know that's what let me do the math as seventeen to seven
runs something like that. So getting back in the game. But interesting stuff.
But they they you said, I played played tough last night two point
lest Marquette. Well that kind of just says to me that college basketball is
not Arizona's specific. It's going to be a lot of good teams, right,
Marquette's good, right, Tennessee's good right, produce good right. A
lot of teams are good, you know. And and you know Gonzaga got
beat by uh yes, Now people are starting to question, is you know
how good is Gonzaga or are they not? You know? We yeah,
it's November, it is it is Duke? How good is Duke? We
got to talk about stuff stuff. You guys even mentioned the defending national champions
right right, which just goes to your points about how deep the Kansas.
We haven't talked about the number one Kansas. So so many good teams.
It's that's what makes it so fun in market is and that's why we talk
about it now. Makes it fun in November too, though, you know,
you like seeing these games and talking about it, like, you know,
like this Michigan State Arizona game coming out. You know, Michigan State
now has three losses. You know, but do you you think Arizona's just
gonna walk in there and win that game without you know, without a lot
of trouble. Now, and here's here's the thing that you'll get to notice,
how tough. We talk about how much tough for Arizona is now we'll
see, right, Yeah, even if it's on reputation alone from Michigan state
state they're known for being a tough team. Well, here, here we
go. They're playing a tough you know, what's long been considered a tough
and physical conference. Let you know, let's see what this looks like.
Yeah, we'll roll that baby out onto the street again and see and take
a ride and see what we see how it works. Yeah, today,
today, Tommy Lloyd was on John Rothstein's podcast and he called it a street
fight. He said, you know, he's expecting a street fight. It's
gonna be tough. You know, is that those guys are He didn't say
looking to get this season back on track, but he said kind of looking
to get their season back on Yeah, he said it's early, but that's
what they're gonna do. But then, you know, they didn't expect to
be one and three right now, and he knows they're going to be coached
really hard this weekend. Ear to come out of fight. If that's expected
to be a street part. What was the Princeton game? What was the
Princeton that was not a street fight. No, I was that a math
test. I'm not even sure what you would call that, Steve, because
it wasn't you know, it wasn't a street fight. It was it was
I don't know, it was just one team showed up and one team didn't.
Well, it's what it did for the first half, and they had
a twe point leading. Yeah, and then they did what they did most
of the year, right, they tried to coast in and Princeton didn't you
know, they didn't you know, they didn't didn't take into account the fact
that they were playing the Nancy DOAA tournament team, right, a team that
had had a pretty good season, was confident in itself and wasn't going to
back down. Yeah, no, I could. I was there on the
sideline thinking, these guys look like they don't know what's going on. And
they played like it too. They didn't couldn't get a guy to score,
and they couldn't get a rebound. And had they gotten two or three of
those, they win that game. No again, but again that in the
end, if if it did, if it caused Tommy to do what he
did this year, which is turned the roster and figure out what pieces he
didn't have and go get those pieces to create what you know, as we
talked with Matt Melbach yesterday, a team that has got pieces all over the
place, you know, then then okay, then if you get something out
of it, like like what you know, like what air's on the guy
out of East Tennessee State back when you know the sure when they be there.
You know they were on four the next year. No, after Santa
Claia, Yeah, it was East Tennessee State and then second but they you
know, they went out and fixed any changed the style exactly. Got a
call, we got a call, Hi, you're on the air and I
on the ball. Yeah. Uh, why did you guys to rank these
four things on your own of most embarrassing? So allowed to Princeton Basketball lost
to Santa Clara in the nineties. Basketball lost the Big AU football in the
seventy one and then lost n a U football. Wait a second, Wait
a second, what was the third one the big board? Let me give
you one more to put it in the fifth place. The Chicago loss,
the Illinois loss, Illinois loss, and then when they were on the verge
of gooding. But I mean Illinois, I mean Illinois mean they have fourteen
point lead with five minutes. I from where I said, I think you
start with the seventy to seven loss, because that will never ever ever go
away, ever, ever ever even I mean, I mean, yeah,
yeah, because I think, well, you're probably right, You're probably right,
but I still, man, it's a it's a tough call. I
guess I guess the seventy seven because just how you know, because of the
rivalry and how meaningful that is, and a year like a SU was lost
to an a you know, years ago, so it can happen. And
then I think I put the I put the two basketball losses, uh,
you know, after that, because yeah, because you know, Arizona bounced
back from those things, so and again, to me, I'm a more
of a football guy, right, somebody might say that back, and somebody,
Steve might go with yours and say that that Illinois thing, how devastating
that was. Maybe that falls more in less embarrassing and more as you say,
devastating, Louke would have gun to Yeah, yeah, right, but
but your you're put to your point, Yeah, those are pretty big things,
man, that's you know what, Thanks for bringing those up all at
once. He's gonna go into his fetal position right now? Yeah, Now,
I just wanted to figure out what you got that money on, So
I see that might have been Yeah, no, good point, toss up
forty to fifty one. I need a pack of life savers now, something
to get me over that. Thanks for calling bad memories. He appreciate it.
Thanks, thanks, thanks for coming. That's a tough call. I
mean, how do you how do you how do you rate your worst days
ever? Right? Right? No, if you're gonna let a story about
about the rise and climb of of jetfish, where do you start? But
right there? Yeah? Yeah, the n AU game and talking about talking
about hitting bottom for him, he looked miserable that night. He looked like
his dog, his disease, everybody somebody wrecked his car. It was I
remember watching him come off the field. Uh, And I'm like, I
don't even want to know what his stomach feels like. You know, right
now, could you imagine just kind of losing it? Just what the hell
did I get myself into? But look look at and and I'm sure the
way Jed would look at it, because it can't get worse than this.
It's all up from here, sure, right, Everything it gets better from
here on. It's funny though. The color brings it up. The big
loss the end of the year, big loss to start the year, right
right, yeah all the time. Yeah yeah, two of the worst all
time things. It was. Yeah, it was in a stretch of four
games because they played two games already. Yeah yeah, YU was the third
game. Who did the play the first day they they opened with the Remember
they opened the b YU that was she was like a million years ago they
opened at b YU. I was here in San Diego. Steak kicked their
asses, okay, and then and then they like, I would you opened
against them? My god, I couldn't remember that. But that was a
stretch of four games. I mean remember the San Diego State game. It
was twenty one to nothing, like in no time flat. Yeah, you
know, well the b WYU game, you're thinking, what are you thinking?
We thought we came out of you. Why are you thinking? Hey,
maybe it's not so bad? Right right? Two weeks later, so
the two we like, how did you get this bad? But how did
you get that bad? And it did get no color? Hi, you're
on the air and on the ball. Hey guys, how you doing?
What's up? Power? Hey, so whatever the whatever the spread is from
Michigan State, I'll take the Cats and I'll give five more points on top
of whatever you're giving them. You. I don't know that we have a
line on that yet. I would say about seven or eight. But everyone
everyone has won three straight games by thirty, is that right? Yeah?
Yeah, and and and and and because I listened the whole day yesterday,
and you're so right, Jay, you know, I feel sorry fans.
It'll show up. That was a perfect game for them not to show to
show up on yeah on Saturday. Yeah, there wasn't any reason not to.
Howard, did you go? No? I remember, I'm not a
football guy. If I would have had a ticket, I would have went.
You know that. That's crazy, my wife, because this is so
up. I got charity. You. There can be many people in the
stands. I didn't say that, but it's pretty obvious. They gave them
a way to you guys, you know, the season ticket holders. Was
there still some for the public to get to? I guess yeah, yeah,
right, No, I hear you, I hear you. Yeah,
there's no line yet on the Michigan State game. I bet it, but
I bet it's under six. Well, like I said, I put five
more on top of it. They're gonna win by that much whatever it is.
Yeah, I agree with you, Howard. I agree, that's how
Oh and even as they'll set himself forget the tough. They're tough, and
you guys are saying but I guess Jay mentioned physical. That's what Izoe said.
Yeah, U of A is very physical and they're scared about that.
Well, sometimes when you say things, you really really don't mean things.
Oh, I know, but they're they're they're really bad. It's going to
have a hard time from them to write the ship. I mean when you're
one and three, they're going to take a while to dig out of that.
Have you have you watched Arizona basketball much already? Oh? Yeah,
so, but listen to it and I've watched. I mean I've been paying
attention to it. They've got four games, they scored four hundred points.
One hundred point. Well, let me just ask you this. What impressed
you the impresses you the most? Oh my gosh. The newcomers are great.
They're the freshman, the whole thing. And I was the Red Blue
game. That was it, and that's all I needed to see. And
and and just to think if we don't have Henry Vasar, I think our
strength is all the way. We're one deep at every position, and it's
it's just the depth is going to be fantastic. He's got a lot to
work with. He he don't try to steal our job. Yeah, at
nine o'clock, I could have went to the game, am I to get
ahold of you? I could have went to that game on Friday because the
two tickets, but because none of their donors my wife works at the u
of A, and the donors didn't want to go that late, you know.
But but I from now on next year, I'll go to all the
late games no matter what. All right, thanks much, thank you?
Yeah, now, yeah, I again looking forward to this. Michigan State
came, but just another play just to see. Okay, how meaningful was
it? The Duke game? Yeah? In the gage just how right?
You just you just watch Jay a month ago? What you were thinking?
They won't be Duke right, probably won't be Michigan and Pdue obviously we'll see,
we'll see when we get there. But they're all winnable now yeah,
yeah, right, yeah, every one of them. No pressure, none,
none, whatsoever. But you know what, Tommy doesn't feel it.
No, you know why. You know why he does not. You know
why. And I've seen him in a number of things. He was at
the camp too, He's owned he owned Princeton, he owned in what exactly
I learned from it. I'm gonna we wear this and be better. Yeah.
Sometimes coaches don't do that. Yeah, they kind of think that what
I was doing was just right. Yeah, and I'm just gonna keep doing
that. It was a one off or whatever. Again and again you go
back to as he as he mentioned the manic when we're talking about he says
he stayed that made Luke James the way the way he did that. Yeah,
after after Santa Clara, they went they were big and they went small.
Yeah, and so you know it, h it uh. And that's
what makes a great coach. Yeah, you have to be able to well
you do we know if im Alloyd's a great coach? Yet still not you
know, well, this is pretty damn. I kind of write Sean every
now and again, and I'll say he just didn't want to change. We
guess what's now he changed at all? He changed. He's got his Xavier
back up to where you know, where they were when he was it's not
it's not a sentence to change. It's not not, but I refuse to.
All right, we'll be back with breaking news. Kevin's got it and
we'll have lots to talk about, and then Brian Jefferies in the at about
four twenty, so stick around.