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The Draymond Green suspension is warranted,
over the top, ridiculous, a sign

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of the end for the Golden State
Warriors. Let's get into it, but

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But this will be like a minute. It's a two and a half

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episode, and we're gonna talk about
Raymond Green and the Golden State Warriors.

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The League announced that Draymond will be
suspended indefinitely after he punched, flailed,

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knocked use of Nurkic across the face
during Golden State's loss to Phoenix on Tuesday

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night. It was disastrous looking,
and Draymond Green afterwards said basically, I

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don't apologize for my actions normally,
but I do apologize to Yusuf. I'm

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not he said, I'm not a
flopper, but I do sell calls by

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trying to basically flail my body,
which equates to flopping. By the way,

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I thought that was. That was
bizarre. There was use of Nurkic

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after the fact. Did say afterwards
that he doesn't know what basically what's going

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on in Draymond's life, but he
hopes that he gets help. That's like,

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you know, are we really gonna
kick Draymond while he's kind of down

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and being dragged through the mud on
social media and from analysts. I'm probably

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not the biggest fan of that,
But at the same time, you were

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just punched in the face, Like, if you're gonna see that opportunity to

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I'll say, not take the high
road because it wasn't necessarily a pot shot,

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then sure, whatever, go ahead. I can't really knock him for

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saying it. The reaction to Draymond
being suspended indefinitely, it was not you

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know, I feel like in years
past there would have been pushedback of oh,

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this is too long? How is
it not clarification? There's talk that

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he's going to go to counseling.
He has to meet with the commissioner's agent.

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Rich Paul from Clutch Sports will be
there as as well. If he's

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on the jah Morant therapy or counseling
excuse me timeline, he should be back

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in the lineup by by Sunday for
the Warriors. It only takes like what

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seventy two hours to really reinvent yourself. More seriously, though, when you

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look at specifically the interview that Steve
Kerr gave after that game, even the

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Warriors seem just exhausted by this pre
pubescent clownery that Draymond Green has been espousing

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for a large majority of his career. And I do think, look the

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whole counseling situation, I don't want
to denigrate it, just because that stuff

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is important and if you can go
through it, and if Draymond actually thinks

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that he needs help and wants to
address it, great. You're thirty three

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years old. I believe you've been
in the league now in extremely long time.

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You've won four titles, You've cost
your team at least one other when

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you look back at the kick from
twenty sixteen, and then there's also a

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lot of people think Kevin Durant was
gonna leave in the first place, but

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that public's bat at the beginning of
the season with Draymond Green certainly couldn't have

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helped things. This has been your
stick for so long, and the Warriors

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have put up with it because you
are a generational defender, one of the

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best defenders in NBA history. You
are an exceptional playmaker. You are the

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heart and soul of their team through
so many seasons, and in some respects

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he still can be a transformative defender. He is not worth the backage anymore,

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like we have reached the point now
where he is submarined Golden State's season

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or their chances by basically, you
know, jahn Morant was suspended for twenty

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five games, and by the time
he comes back and plays, there's a

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chance that he just might have more
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And this stuff is just getting out
of hand. If you were actually going

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to address it, or if you
cared about changing, then you would have

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done so. Maybe after you cost
your team a championship in twenty sixteen,

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or were. They're driving force behind
them not winning the championship, and I

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get it, he was also the
impetus behind them actually winning titles in the

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first place. He's not that player
anymore. And you have to, you

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know, the baggage, as cruel
as it sounds, it has to be

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at least commeasurate with the value you're
bringing on the court, and that's just

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not what he's doing anymore. The
Warriors are worse defensively with him on the

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floor. For the first time in
his career. He's allowing opponents to shoot

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sixty three percent at the rim,
which is not, by the way,

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a terrible mark, but it is
by far and away the worst mark of

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his career. I do think a
lot of that has to do with the

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regression. Look at the minutes,
the lineups that he plays in. Kevon

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Looney has not been a great defender
this year, and then Andrew Wiggins and

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Klay Thompson on most nights have verged
on abysmal, and so a lot of

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that extra pressure is going to fall
and Raymond Green's not going to be able

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to cover up one for everyone like
he used to, and two you shouldn't

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have to cover up for everyone,
and there are times just in that starting

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five, which is still getting annihilated, where you seemingly would have to cover

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up for everyone. And so I
get that's too tall of in order,

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but we're looking at someone who just
signed a four year, one hundred million

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dollars dollar deal over the offseason.
He's in the back end of his prime,

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or at least inching towards it,
and you can't have things like this

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continuing to happen. And it almost
I mean, it dates back longer than

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this, but it does seem Zach
Low of Uspiana said this that the Jordan

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Poole punch kind of broke something within
the organization. It definitely seems like it

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impacted Jordan Poole. But Draymond Green
had come out and said, I have

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to build up back that. I
have to build back up that trust with

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my teammates to a point where I
can be contentious again, where I can

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be the emotional bell weather, the
the you know, the emotional guiding force

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of this roster. I don't know
if he's ever gotten back there, because

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if you just look at the body
language sometimes from Steph Curry, who everyone

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knows loves Draymond, and I'm sure
he still does. When you look at

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how just defeat or listen to how
defeated that Steve Kerr sounds, it kind

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of feels like the Warriors are fed
up with his bullshit. And that's what

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it is at this point, is
that it is bullshit. You're talking about

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a team. It would be so
much different because we're watching Klay Thompson just

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get older. I'm not Look,
I'm not gonna fall at Klay Thompson.

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He's coming back from two of the
most serious injuries in basketball. He's into

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his thirties. He has the pressure
of a contract year he missed out,

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he passed on I think it was
a two year, fifty six million dollar

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extension, whatever it was that the
Warriors offer him. So he has that

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wearing down on him. The frustration
here isn't that okay? The Warriors are

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kind of ebbing, crawling towards the
end of their dynasty. They're just gonna

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play this out. They got their
four championships. You're just gonna put up

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with this because you want to keep
the legacies intact. You want to keep

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the players on this roster because they
have so much emotional value. To the

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organization. That would be fine if
Steph Curry still wasn't one of the five

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best players in basketball. He remains
this transformative force who is capable of being

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the best player on a title tender. He looked gassed by the end of

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that Phoenix game, and you need
to do something to prop him up,

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and the Warriors have not done that. That is not on Draymond Green,

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and we'll get into that in a
second, but you, as Draymond Green,

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as players on this team, you
need to actively make sure that you're

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not detracting from what you are able
to do around him. And these are

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diminishing returns now from Draymond Forget the
off stuff again, that's a bigger,

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a larger symptom of a roster that
is suddenly deep the bench. When you

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look at the minutes that Brandon Projenski
has been giving you. Chris Paul shots

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aren't always falling, but he provides
a steadiness when he's on the floor.

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Dario Stariz has been good, Moses
Moody has been good. You need to

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give out shoutouts. John Vi Kaminga
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he knows what he's doing a lot
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doesn't feel like he has the trust
of Steve Kerr. He's providing you

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with with jolts of adrenaline. And
so the Warriors are deeper now, and

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that should put them in a situation
where we had this starting five that was

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statistically one of the you know,
one to five best lineups in basket ball.

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Yeah last year. Yeah, they're
another season older, but they should

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still be able to come close to
that peak. And you're not how much

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of that has to do with Draymond
Green being in out of the lineup right

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now. I don't know what to
ascribe to it, but he's making things

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way more difficult on Steph Curry and
the Warriors than he needs to be.

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And indefinite suspension is fine. And
I kind of got the sense just from

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what people were saying and how they
were approaching this in the I wanted to

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wait until after we saw the suspension
to actually comment on it. You knew

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it was coming. He already got
five games previously this season. I thought

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maybe it would have been like a
ten, maybe a fifteen game one.

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Perhaps it ends up being even shorter
than this. Again, the way that

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the John Morant counseling timeline worked out
in the March of last season. I

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guess it's feasible that Draymond Green could
be back fairly quickly, but I just

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wanted to see what was going to
be. But the hints and kind of

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the breadcrumbs that were being dropped,
some were just expecting could he be suspended

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for the rest of the year.
I really don't think. I'd never thought

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it was going to be that,
unless the Warriors were just telling him to

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take his ball and go home,
unlike the Pacers who tried to take you

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on it ball and go home.
But that's not actually what happened. I

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don't know if Grant I will get
into that pot. You need to google

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that whole Yiannis. The Pacers situation
just absolutely hysterical. Anyway, This is

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just like I'm not going to believe, and I try to be empathetic and

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I try not to have these super
blasphemous hot takes, especially when again when

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the word the act of counseling is
mentioned, and when a player themselves says

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that they want to be better,
they want to get better, I want

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to give them the benefit of the
doubt. We are now in year eighty,

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two hundred and fifty seven of Draymond
Green wanting to change or talking about

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getting his emotions and reactions under control. Go back and watch the use of

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Nurkic play. I will not buy
that it was an accident. And even

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if it wasn't you have not earned
the benefit of the doubt. Just look,

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would you choked Rudy Gobert this season? This is just like, how

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are you still making these mistakes when
you are one so integral to your team

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that they can't afford to lose you. But at the same time you've been

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you can be active damaging by either
not being there or not being the player

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that you were a few years ago. And look, you can't fault him

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for getting older, that's just something. But you can fault him for not

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being a better decision maker, a
more even killed player on the court,

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someone who is smart enough. And
this is one of the smartest players in

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NBA history, probably especially when you
look at how he reads defenses. Excuse

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me, how he reads opposing offense
is one of the highest IQ players that

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I've ever watched. In ninety nine
point nine percent of the time, I

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probably have no idea what's actually going
on, and you can still watch him

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and just be like, WHOA,
this dude is a genius. You need

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to understand how important you are to
your team and that in that moment.

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I'm not a fan of this heat
of the moment bullshit. Yes, you

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can say things that are heat of
the moment, like Nicole Jokich calling a

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ref of motherfucker and getting tossed on
Serbian Night in Chicago, which apparently has

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a very large serbian population. I
didn't know that that was a BS ejection,

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by the way, something else.
Granted, I might touch upon a

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lot of weird shit happening in the
NBA lately. Anyway, for Draymond Green

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to either one not be able to
recognize how indispensable he is the Warriors,

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or two and even worse, just
not give a fuck and gonna continue to

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be the author of these antics,
it's just is he even worth the trouble

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anymore? And I'm just at the
point where, no, he's not.

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The Warriors lack optionality, that's why
you had to resign him. And I

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still think he is a very good
basketball player here in this moment right now,

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But is he good enough to warrant
having to put up with. I

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guess the kindest way to put it
is this wild card status of well,

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what is Draymond gonna do next?
How many games is he gonna miss not

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because of injury, but because he
gets suspended? How many games is he

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gonna be tossed out of, ejected
from with technicals or because he does something

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like this. You shouldn't have to
ask that question this late in his career.

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He should have that under wrapped.
And so, no, I don't

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believe that he wants to change.
I don't believe that he will change.

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I hope for the sake of Steph
Curry and whatever window he has left with

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this team, he does. But
it's not even just a believe it when

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you see it. It's a believe
it when you when you see him do

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it and sustain it over the course
of the rest of this season and beyond,

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he's gonna have to work from.
He's gonna have to work from that

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deficit of conviction, basically from I
would think Warriors Warriors fan should be absolutely

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fed up with this guy. This
isn't just a you know, someone who

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covers the league at large or someone
from another fan base who wants to troll

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Draymond Green. I know Kings fans
were getting, you know, a riot

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out of this. Yeah, and
look that's there right at this point,

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But like, Warriors fan should be
fed the fuck up about this because of

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what this guy's cost you in the
past, no matter how much he has

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done, and now what he's costing
you now without providing you with the necessary

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to get back up to the level
that you're so clearly not at this year.

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That naturally leads into the question of, all right, well, should

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they look at trading him when he's
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he's a December fifteenth guy by January
Fifteenthie, I didn't check, but I

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think he's a December fifteenth guy who's
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the deal is not, you know, like too lucrative. Could you

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talk? You know, I was
trying to go through just as the Warriors

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wanted to go to nuclear out and
they won't. I want to make that

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clear is if they do make a
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I'd be shocked if I'd be shocked
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if it involved Dre and more likely
be Chris Paul, young players, picks

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or even just because of depending on
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ball handler or a facilitator. I
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I know you have Corey Joseph,
but it might just behoove you more to

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go with Andrew Wiggins other salaries and
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with the caveat being you're so unathletic
as it is right now that you don't

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want to give up you know,
one of your two most athletic players on

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the roster, even though he's not
necessarily looked at unless you're bringing back someone

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who is not just comparable but a
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Wiggins. But you go through the
teams and it's like, you know,

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Draymond and the Kings would be kind
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I don't love the floor spacing,
but they can figure it out with

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the way their offense is run and
they need a defender like him. Would

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he run into the same issues that
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I don't think so, just because
dearon Fox, that's a very physical

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athletic guy. Keigan Murray has made
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of the season, and Golden State
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right now. Whatever the hell's going
on with Andrew Wiggins. I know he

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dealt with not only injuries last year
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might be a better situation. Atlanta
would be another. They just need to

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change something. I don't know what
the deal is there though. Can you

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get them to give you DeAndre Hunter
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Is that enough? Are they just
saying, hey, we have younger

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Draymond at home in Jalen Johnson who's
hitting his was hitting threes this year before

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his injury. Although Draymond to say
his credit, I think I mentioned this.

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He is hitting threes forty two point
nine percent on the third most per

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thirty six minutes of his career.
He's also shooting thirty nine percent on above

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the break threes, and so it's
not just you know, corner stuff that

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is buttressing his march just one of
the oddities. He's one good three point

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shooting season for his career, and
now there's just the second one randomly when

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he's in the midst of just having
this full blown implosion. Like the Warriors

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teams after that, Like, yeah, there might be interest. Could could

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Houston? I mean, like they've
built this culture of defense already and they

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have one of the better defense in
the league. Could you imagine Draymond,

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Dylan Brooks, and Fred Van Vliet
on the same roster. I just don't

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if you're you know, the salaries
get tough in this instance, a little

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bit easier after December fifteenth? Who
are you targeting? If you're the Warriors?

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I actually would love Draymond on the
Indiana Pacers. Again, it's just

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what is this now? Bruce Brown
and aaron Ne Smith. Are the Warriors

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gonna want Ben mcmathren, Maybe they'll
I think Jarvis Walker probably needs to be

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in that deal. You're not gonna
get Miles Turner. It just gets awkward

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with your I mean, buddy here, Like they have the salaries to do

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it, but what do you want? Are you just taking draft equity?

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Is it a three team deal with
the Pacers? Are sending out Walker and

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draft equity to Toronto for Siaka Morandanobi
and he's going to Golden State. But

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at that point, it's well in
Indiana. Just if Ananobey's getting moved,

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Indiana needs to be involved in it, and so you shouldn't help the Warriors

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get him necessarily. The Mavericks would
be super interesting, but again, what

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do you if you're the Warriors,
what do you want from that team?

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That's when you get into the territory
level. We need to seek out a

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third fourth team. We're sending out
Draymond and stuff as the salary to then

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bring back our Is it a Pascal
Siakam? Is it an Ogann Andobi?

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In that case, we know Dallas
doesn't have the asset firepower to go get

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an Ogannobi. Are we waiting on
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Who's the surprise candidate that could emerge
A player I've talked about a lot.

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I don't know that I would predict
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of what he's approaching in his contract. He's an all star, fringe all

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NBA player, not super young,
and the Jazz are at this weird point

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in their rebuild. You can tell
me you to do just anything. By

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the way, the trade deadline that
they traded Lowry market in or that they

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went out and acquired fucking og and
it just it wouldn't surprise they could go

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with Danny Ainge and Justin Zanig running
the show. Wouldn't surprise me with whatever

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they did. Draymond and Utah be
really funny, but they're not gonna they

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have enough front court players. They
do need the defense, So the suitors

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are just I think they would be
there. Maybe Detroit would just be like,

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fuck it, let's bring Draymond back
to Michigan and we have no idea

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what we're doing. Anyway, you're
not gonna get a kick hunting him,

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and that you're not gonna get Asar
Thompson in that deal. I don't know

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what was the Warriors you would want? Yeah, Boye Madonna, it's just

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fun. But what else? So
there might be teams. I think even

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Miami might talk themselves into it,
even though Bam and Draymond I think is

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a pretty bad offensive fit, even
though a healthy Bam this year really made

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some strides on more strides, I
should say, on the offensive end.

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So I want to be clear,
there would be teams. I just don't

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see the team that's gonna come and
give you an offer that either replicates a

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lot of Draymond's value in totality.
I don't think you're ever gonna get his

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defensive versatility and IQ. It's just
that's not floating around out there right now

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in get ability anyway, but just
someone who in totality because maybe they're a

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better shooter, a better ball handler, someone who just does more for you

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on the offensive end independent of Steph
Curry existing. I don't see that deal

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sort of existing right now, after
trying to think about it. I see

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teams, like I said, I
would love to watch Draymond Green on I

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just don't know that they'd be willing
to give up the assets necessary to go

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back to the Warriors or just send
to another team that gets them a player

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they want. And if you are
the Warriors, you do need to aproach

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this with some semblance of urgency this
this season. Now, Draymond Green is

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going to be out for however long. You already have just faded to outside

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the plane as I'm recording this in
the Western Conference. This is not you

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know, it does seem like this
front office with with Kirk lacub and specifically

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Mike dun Leeve is gonna be a
little bit more aggressive and less married to

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the original core core than Bob Myers
was. We saw that with the you

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know, Jordan Poole for CP three
trade. Do they have the stones to

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go out on the trade market and
get that guy that is going to reopen

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not even a title window, but
a playoff window for this core. Are

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they gonna get involved with a Pascal
Siakam if Lowry market is on the table,

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are they gonna go really hard after
him? They absolutely, Ogannobi would

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be a great fit on this roster, and you know twenty twenty nine others

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including Toronto is uh they need to
go after that. I would say the

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worst player I'll frame it this way
that the Warriors should be Those are I

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think I just named them. Those
are the three worst caliber of players that

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I think could change the Warrior season. Where you're looking at I don't know

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what Pascal Siakam is this year.
The floor spacing is if he is he

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still a top twenty five guy.
So let's use you know, if it's

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an og Anobi or Lowry market in
are those top thirty five guys. I

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don't know where Lowry might rest higher? And so it's sort of that spectrum

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of top fifty where og Annobi is
he could be higher than that. I'm

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not trying to disparage og Anobi here
through Pascal siaka Larry marketing. Where it's

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like top twenty five to top fifty. That's like, you can't fix this

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by saying we're just gonna acquire a
couple guys here and there. Maybe we'll

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try and get Otto Porter Junior back
from Toronto, bring over Chris Bouchet in

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that deal, or we'll see what
other depth pieces are floating around at the

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at the trade deadline, or our
offense needs juice, like are we willing

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to kind of talk about what the
salary matching looks like to get Boyan in

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there, or are we more concerned
about keeping our bigger salary players because we

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don't want to trade j We don't
want to trade Clay and CP three has

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just been maybe a little bit too
valuable and comes off the books, and

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how are we gonna upgrade from Wigans? So we'll keep those and we'll just

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try and step ladder our way with
salaries of Kevon Looney and Gary pay in

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the second and if we attach Jonathan
Domingo. What could we get? No,

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you need this team needs an infusion
of star power alongside Steph Curry.

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It's not because Steph Curry is not
doing enough. There's no singular player.

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Well let's see, I mean,
maybe there's like one or two guys I

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don't even like Jokic with this roster. Okay, they're probably a contender,

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Y're honest. With this roster,
probably not not enough creation. So there's

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maybe one player in the league right
now that I believe could carry this exact

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Warriors scre beyond where they are at
the moment. And so this is not

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on Steph. He is still good
enough to headline a contender. And the

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Draymond Green suspension is really just an
extension of the Warrior season where they've now

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gotten to a point where the dynasty
is not reaching its conclusion. It's already

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over. And if the Warriors aren't
going to have the gall the courage to

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go out and make a trade,
they don't just run the risk, but

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they're essentially co signing this season becoming
a painful, drawn out goodbye to an

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era that has run out of lightning
in a bottle stores. It's over.

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This team is done as currently constructed, and it needs to shake up.

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I don't know that that needs to
include a Draymond Green trade, but wholesale

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changes really need to be taking place
on the court, off the court,

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and that ladder. The off court
stuff begins with Draymond Green. I don't

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think it's fair to expect him to
change, or for this to not happen

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again, or for another incident to
not transpire this year. He has,

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if nothing else, forfeited the benefit
of the doubt long ago. When it

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comes to this situation. We'll have
to see how long he's out. The

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Warriors are worse off for it,
just as they always are when Green makes

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his decisions. They were up by
the way in that Phoenix game that cost

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them ground in the Western Conference,
and every victory is just important when you're

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kind of looking at the forget about
the top of the West, but like

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even the meat and potatoes in the
middle of the Western Conference, these games

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matter. Even this Earlynk could come
back to bite the Warriors later on.

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So the Draymond Green suspension is fair, expected, warranted. I don't know

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how long and definite is going to
be. You'll have to let me know

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if you agree with it. If
you think it's too harsh, where do

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you think the Warriors should do here? Now? Hit us up in discord.

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You could join it the links in
the podcast and YouTube description, or

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comment down below let me know what
you think. I will be reading the

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comments, even if I can't respond
to all of them until next time,

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which will be very soon. And
as always, I've un with the shout

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out to the one the only,
Frank, Neila Keina. Get well soon

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with Frank and apologies too, still
gonna do this, I have to give

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him. Apologies to mister Rick Jis