Welcome back, every one to a new episode of You Were Wrong with Molly
Hemingway and David Harsani. Molly, I quite enjoyed your piece this week on
that ABC Washington Post, ABC News Washington Post poll showing Donald Trump up by
ten points. It was funny to see what happened when that poll was released
late Saturday night and people started talking about it. A lot of Democrats,
whether they are reporters or overt politicians, pundits were freaking out about it,
and they immediately started dismissing the poll, including the Washington Post itself was asking
its readers to please not believe their own poll that they had published. And
there is, of course always reason for skepticism of polls. That's a very
good trait to have to be skeptical of polls, and the Washington Post ABC
poll in general is one you should be particularly skeptical of. So for years
it has come out with outlandish poll results that are treated as the gospel truth
by other corporate media, and they shouldn't be so. In addition to them
claiming that Joe Biden was up over Donald Trump during the entire twenty twenty campaign
by like fifteen points, even at the end they claimed it was twelve points.
Of course, it came down to a very close election. They said
also in twenty twenty that Joe Biden was going to win Wisconsin by seventeen points.
You know, Wisconsin is a state that goes back and forth. It
has a Republican senator a Democrat senator. Having someone win by seventeen points in
the year twenty twenty would be like really amazing. And they were off by
about seventeen points on their prediction that he would win by seventeen points. But
they never said, like, don't believe our polls back then. Only when
it shows Donald Trump is absolutely crushing Biden in a head to head matchup,
do they plead with people not to believe them. So in your piece,
you quote Susan Glasser, I think, is that the New Yorker, And
she says, sure, it's an outlier, but look at all the other
polls. At best, Biden is essentially tied with Donald Trump, the four
times indicted insurrectionists to his running on a platform of personal revenge and says he
is willing to terminate the constitution right. So earlier you said that when you're
polling this far out. Maybe people are sending a message about how dissatisfied they
are with Joe Biden, and that's certainly true. To understand that polling,
in addition to it usually being not very accurate, also can mean things that
are different than the straight up question is good. But I think Susan Glasser
kind of gets at that deeper message issue by pointing out that Democrats campaign strategy
was to indict their top political opponent in the hopes that it would kind of
destroy him politically, even if he was able to eke out a nomination,
you know, or something like that, that it would be very bad for
him. What these polls show is not just that Donald Trump is trouncing the
other candidates for the Republican nomination, but he's also doing very well in head
to head matchups with Biden, whether he's beating them by ten or just tied
with them. You know, that's like historically a very good polling result for
Republicans. If you're tied, you can win big with a tie. I
think it shows that that strategy of indicting your political opponent to put him in
prison and remove him from the battalot is backfiring. Against Democrats. That you're
seeing these astounding numbers showing Trump doing so well shows that people do not view
these indictments as legitimate, and further, they seem to be repelled by them,
repelled by the idea that Democrats would think an effective campaign strategy would be
to prohibit people from being able to vote for the candidate of their choice using
the force of law. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting that she says
Donald Trump wants to terminate the Constitution. I don't know if Donald Trump says
a lot of crazy authoritarian things sometimes, like his contention that we should shut
down NBC or charge them for treason or whatever he's said today. But the
fact is that he says a lot of those things. That's the choice.
And still people, I think realize that the left is just as authoritarian,
in fact more authoritarian in their actual use of power. I just think that's
true. But I just quickly wanted to say the real reason, though,
I think that you see these numbers is that Joe Biden's just a really bad
president. He's bad on the economy, he's bad on the border, he's
bad on foreign policy. He can't articulate any kind of position that makes sense
on any of these things. He's messed up energy, He's messed up what
should have been the easiest and recovery slam dunk in the history of the United
States after a man made COVID recession. So I think people realize that,
and that is the real reason, the leading reason for why most Independents and
others won't aren't naturally automatically vote Republican would be anti Biden. Well, one
of these polls, I can't remember which one it was, said something about
how Republicans have an advantage on whether or not people think they can handle the
economy better than the opposing party that they have never seen in the history of
polling until anyone. Yeah. Yeah, So it brings to mind another interesting
thing, which is that the Biden campaign had a strategy, in addition to
indicting their top political opponent, of making Biden nomics be the thing they ran
on. And when Democrats come up with campaign strategies like this, they don't
get the kind of scrutiny that a real press would get, because the moment
someone says, yeah, we're going to run on the economy at a time
when we've driven the economy into the ground. A real press would say that's
absurd, and let's talk about how absurd it is, and instead they all
kind of uncritically regurgitated it, like that's fine, that sounds like a good
idea, mister president, you're the best. And it takes polling like this
for people to realize, like, oh, that's not just a Republican talking
appoint talking point that people are upset about inflation or that they can't really buy
or sell houses. So that's that's a real issue out there in the hinterlands.
Yeah. I mean I've said this before. Bidonomics is not an actual
thing. There's no set of beliefs or economic ideas that make up bidonomics.
It's just a bunch of leftist policies spending, raising taxes, expanding the welfare
state, and it has really backfired by what happens. In their defense,
I do think they think massive government spending is a policy that they but it's
not uniquely bidonomics. It's you know what I'm saying, Like Reaganomics was actually
a set of policies that were different than you know that we're unique to that
presidency. I mean, they came not from Reagan, but from other people,
but they were unique. But bionomics, it's like they just changed the
name. You know, they changed the name. But what was it initially
called Make America Better or whatever to the Inflation Reduction Act. I mean it
was, it had nothing to do with in reducing inflation. It's just monikers.
You know. Sorry, something you said is kind of bothering me,
so I can't let it go. You'd said something about how Donald Trump had
said these authoritarian things about going after MSNBC, whereas Democrats are actually doing some
of this stuff, and so you said they're just as bad, if not
worse, And I feel like that really undersells what we're talking about here.
I think you and I agree that you shouldn't even like however much you may
hate the media, which is not enough. There's a difference between hating the
media and saying you let them shut down through the power of the government.
And so that's bad, but it's not just as bad, if not worse.
It is objectively speaking, horrifically worse. That we have a regime that
is attempting to shut down news and information and the spread of news and information
that is contrary to what the regime wants. That is. It is almost
unquantifiable how much worse it is than just saying that you wish that a media
company could be shut down, you know, from the government, and they
we have many government agencies in the military, in the Department of Defense,
at DHS, at State, and they're all working with big tech and other
governments to suppress news and information. And they're doing it every day. There's
this suit that's probably going to be seen but heard by the Supreme Court on
the role of the government in suppressing America's First Amendment, American's First Amendment rights.
First Amendment protected rights. But it's even bigger than that. It's bigger
than saying like, oh, you're not allowed to say this or that on
Twitter. There is a whole system designed to crush any media outlet from being
able to publish or exist, or get advertising, or get distribution or have
hosting if they disagree with what the government, as run by Democrats, says
like that's we can't. People need to know how serious of a threat this
is to the republic, and we can't. We can't overstate what a big
threat this is. Well, so let me say I think you're right.
Objectively, Democrats are far worse on speech than Republicans. In fact, objectively,
Joe Biden is leagues worse than Donald Trump was as president, who did
nothing that I can recall to limit anyone's speech. Even the Obama administrations spied
on regularly spied on journalists and involve themselves in speech issues in why they shouldn't
Democrats themselves in recent polling, if you're going to believe this polling like sixty
five percent, I think it is, I could have that number wrong.
Believe that sometimes it's okay to censor disinformation, misinformation, whatever it is.
So yeah, objectively they are worse. But it's very difficult where I think
it is to make the case that you are the party or the side a
free speech when you have the leader of that party spouting off and saying nonsensical
things or authoritarian things. So it bothers me, That's what I'm saying.
But yes, okay, executively, yes, that was a thousand word way
of saying that I agree with you, that you're not wrong. Someone told
me I should use Someone suggested that during the podcast I should use like seventies
like sitcom sayings to you, like what you're talking about, Molly or you
know, like stuthing like that and like try to slip him in and see
if readers can email us and find them. But anyway, go on,
that's that. Oh, okay, we're done with that topic. So anyway,
Yeah, I just wanted to say that that I don't buy that polling.
I don't think Donald Trump is ten points ahead. Also, national polls
don't really matter. You have to look at state polls and all of that.
But if I was a Democrat, I'd be pretty nervous right now that
literally you have a guy who is indicted four times, who is saying these
things, who is who is not very popular, and he's tied with your
eighty whatever year old president and that's a big problem. All right, So
the Republican there's a Republican primary debate, yeah, this week in California.
And ahead of that, there was some discussion about how they're having Gavin Newsom
be the surrogate for the Biden campaign and how awful that is for Kamala Harris
that she doesn't get to be the surrogate for her own campaign or something.
But it is kind of interesting that you would roll out Gavin K. Newsom
to be the person that talks on behalf of your campaign when he's such a
reminder of all the problems you have with your main candidate, you know,
so old, so decrepit, so like scary to look at versus you know,
they have very similar policies, Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden. They're both
far left, but they both try to claim that they're moderate. One does
that with more success than another. But you know, he's kind of like
able to articulate a thought, and he walks without stumbling. He knows which
direction to go on stage. You know, it's a bad thing to remind
people what you're dealing with versus what they could have if they were to switch
this horse in midstream. What do you make of the DeSantis Newsome debate?
Do you think that's a good idea in general? So it's happening a little
late, I would say if I were desantists strategist, I would want that
debate earlier, particularly since they're not getting to debate their main opponent, Donald
Trump. So I think it'll be good. I'll be watching, And I
actually thought Sean Hannity did a great job interviewing Gavin Newsom a few months back
on his Fox Show, and they had a good rapport. But it was
also a pretty tough interview, which I don't know if I just wasn't expecting
that, but it was a good substantive interview, so I would expect a
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those two debating Florida California. California, which has the largest popular poor population
the lead you know you know well, which is at the bottom and education
or lower against the Florida governor of up Chemic State, is you know who
has used conservative policies to attain a lot of success. Is actually a very
good debate for Republicans to be involved. And though I will say I do
admire a Newsom for showing up on Sean Hattty or wherever. I think he
can handle himself very well. And can you imagine Biden trying to do that?
I can't. So, like you say, I think that it might
remind people that there are other choices out there are. But the thing about
it being at the end of November is, you know, I think Ron
de Santis will it's going to be well maybe that maybe that is a good
time. Actually, I was just thinking they've got this big thing where they're
spending a lot of money through the end of October in the hopes that they
can reverse their the direction they've been going. So they kind of started off
really strong and they've been just moving down and they're hoping that by running a
bunch of ads and I one particular, that they can they can fight back
there. But November thirtieth is kind of late, so I'm not sure how
that I'll go. I'm also thinking about Chris Christie, who's running for president
for the Republican nomination for president and is doing very poorly. I think he's
got like two or three percentage points. He's extremely well funded by never Trump
activist owners, and yet he's just not resonating with the crowd. And at
the same time, you have the situation with Menendez where he's been indicted.
He will not probably even get the nomination if he wanted to run again next
year, but he's certainly not going to be He's not going to be the
guy running for reelection. So in New Jersey, you have an open Senate
seat and you have a former governor of the state and Chris Christie who claims
he's not doing this for money, or for power, or for a claim,
or for friendly media coverage, but that he's really doing this run for
the presidency because he cares about the country and he wants the Republican Party to
moderate, and that views like his are more popular and that they will resonate
better, and that there's been this dangerous turn in the Senate where people like
jd Vance and Josh Holly are the new up and comers when it should be
people who share his views so I'm like, if that's true, if what
he's saying is true, and he's not just doing this for money or for
friendly pats from the media or for future board positions, he should run for
Senate from New Jersey. And it's not because I'm a big Chris Christy fan.
I don't like his social liberalism, I don't like his economic liberalism.
But would he be better than a Bob Menendez type person. Yes, so
he should. If he cares about the country, he should absolutely run for
Senate from New Jersey and we can test how popular his ideas are and whether
he actually cares for the country. And I just want to say, not
having someone like him who could generate a lot of interest and be competitive running
would mean that Democrats wouldn't have to spend so much in that race. So
if he really cares about the republic Party and its strength, being able to
just at least force the Democrats to spend a lot of money in that state
would show, you know, does he care about the country, does he
care about the party or is this just about himself? Yeah, I don't
think he can win a race in New Jersey today, and this is not
about the country, And not about the party, and you made this argument.
But also, by the way, for Larry Hogan and Kristen knew christ
new New's opportunity was last year and he would have won. He absolutely would
have won that. And instead he wants to play spoiler for Trump, which
is like, Okay, Larry Hogan, I think could win. No,
I mean he's again. He says he was his little pack or whatever.
You know, he's trying to do a no labels run. And they're always
putting out information about how he's the most popular governor in America, which is
like, aren't we sure about that? But let's just say it's true.
Let's just say Larry Hogan was the most popular governor in America and he's brought
appeal to Democrats and Republicans. Why in the world that's another open seat,
right, it's Ben Cardon. He's not running again, so he could win
an open seat, no problem, easy peasy. He's not going to be
president even if he didn't look like a cartoon character. He would not be
president. But he could be senator, and then he could he could push
for his liberal Republicanism in the Senate if he really cared about the things he
claims to care about simple test run for Senate. And again, even if
you lose, you're forcing Democrats to put a lot of money in your state,
and that can help the whole team. I will just point out I
think that there are that voters Democrats are more open to Republicans as governors than
they are as senators. So there are in the North. There is a
tradition in a number of states, even in Massachusetts where you have Republican governors,
because it's almost closer to home, those policies are a little different.
I'm not sure that those same voters would would would put a Republican in the
Senate where there's a whole different set of issues. I'm not saying it couldn't
happen, but I do wonder if these people would win Senate runs. But
your point still stands for sure. I mean, especially with Chris Christy,
I don't think he's that popular anymore in New Jersey. I think you would
lose, but but yeah, he's here. And also, it's a false
choice, this choice, and I keep fighting against it. Sometimes I feel
like I'm a little bit alone on it. But there's the choice is not
Chris Christy or Josh Holly. Those are both big government conservatives in my mind,
the big government Republicans. There are other choices. You don't have to
be either of those types of candidates to win anyway. I don't think that's
going to happen. Is he in the you know? I think he just
wants to get a job on CNN or run some you know organization like no
Labels make money. Maybe he's a lawyer, obviously, I don't know.
We'll see. By the way, the Republican debate will not matter at all.
It's going to be a fight over one percent of the vote between like
Vivek Ramashwani and Nicki Haley or de Santis. Like it's just someone's going to
dunk on someone and everyone's going to talk about it in the DC and no
one in the country is going to care because I'm just going to say,
now, I just don't see how even RHN de Santis, who I think
would be the best candidate running away, can catch Trump. I just don't
see it unless some Trump steps down or whatever. I just don't see it.
I was met at an event this week with with a lot of like
Republican donor types, and it was interesting. It was an interesting crowd because
half the crowd, or like half people I spoke with, they are super
fans of Trump and they are just done talking about the Republican primary. They're
like, our work here is done. We're done over. Like it's very
cute that you want to talk about other people, but we are not interested
in talking. We're we moved on to the general kind of thing. And
the other half was very much thinking that it's not over. And they're like,
okay, so here's the strategy. Trump support has to soften, which
I actually think is probably true. I mean, he's at like ridiculously high
numbers that can't I don't think they can be sustained. Like Trump support will
soften, and then what if, you know, Rhonda Scantist makes a really
good go of it in Iowa, and then what if Chris Chrissy does a
really good job in New Hampshire. And so they were trying to like game
this all out, and I'm like, huh, it's just interesting. In
my mind. You don't want if you're if you don't want Trump to win,
you don't want his support to soften. You basically need it to flatline,
you know, like he could soften a lot like many, many,
many dozens of percentage points, and he would still be the nominee. So
you need it to just crater, and then you probably need just one or
two of the other You need to like coalesce behind someone else and then have
them just hit the lottery a bunch and you know, do a really good
job. I don't I just don't see those I don't see how it's going.
But it was just a reminder of how similar twenty twenty three is to
twenty fifteen. Same types of conversations in DC, where people would be like,
yeah, Trump's ahead, but obviously he's not going to be the nominee,
so I think it's going to be Rubio or whatever. You know.
They would kind of like all dismiss the actual front runner and just act like
there was no way it was going to be him. Yeah, I mean,
I think, I think, I think someone had a better I think
a candidate had a better chance against Trump in twenty fifteen. If they would
have, people would have dropped out and coalesced around one real conservative type then
they do now, where guys like Chris Christy even his one two percent,
a lot of that's probably coming from DeSantis or someone who could who would be
able to maybe challenge Trump if there were only two choices. But there aren't
two choices. There are a bunch of choices. And the people show up
for primaries and are involved in that, are really involved in politics. They
clearly looks like they want Trump right. So I think if it was open
to like all Republicans, this would be a different kind of story maybe,
but it's not. And even there, Trump is way ahead. So listen.
Like I've said it many times, I don't think he's the best candidate
by far, but I just you said, you said the debate doesn't matter,
and I would argue that there are ways that it does matter. So
do you remember how in twenty fifteen sixteen, I guess it was like early
twenty sixteen, there was the South Carolina primary debate. I don't remember who
hosted or what it was, but I just remember thinking, oh, this
is going to go very poorly for Trump because he said something like George W.
Bush allowed nine to eleven to happen, And I'm like, I know
about South Carolina. South Carolina is a big military area. They're not going
to stand for that kind of thing. Donald Trump won that primary walking away,
right. But my point in mentioning it is mostly how it helps you
see what issues are animating Republicans. The fact that Ron de Santis primarily but
then also of a vague Ramaswami capture so much of the vote of the along
with Donald Trump, it tells you something about the Republican electorate and what they're
looking for. The fact that big donors and establishment Republicans are just now clinging
to Nicki Haley and the hopes that she can save them from their problems tells
you what they support and what issues they care about. And so you still
can learn from these debates a great deal, even if it seems that the
primary contest is mostly over. Yeah, it tells me that Republican primary growers
are ridiculous, frankly, But you know, and you can roll your eyes
and get angry at me. I mean, there are choices out there who
are not Nicky Haley, who are running states, who have turned states,
read, who are competent, who can run good campaigns, and they want
the entertainment value and the you know, they want Donald to see Donald Trump
dunking on the left. You know, I don't know you think it's fair
to make an argument that if Donald Trump cared about the country, you would
step aside for someone and younger rather than being a one term president with a
lot of baggage. You're saying, like how I said, Chris Christy,
if he cared about the country, would stop his futile race to be president.
It's not futile for Trump. That's why I feel like I don't.
I don't actually begrudge people running for president for various reasons. I think it's
fine the fact that Chris Christie has no shot there but could potentially. I
mean, I hear what you're saying, he's so disliked in New Jersey now
that he actually couldn't win a state right race. Maybe, but also the
way people feel now might be different than how they would feel after a year
of campaigning. You know, you don't know, but no, I think
that if there were, it's hard to say that about someone who's who's like
the odds on favorite to not just win the primary, but actually win the
presidency back do you think he's on the odds on favorite to win the presidency
right now? Only right now? I don't mean by that that he will
I don't mean that I will feel the same way in a month, but
like right now, if the election were held today, absolutely, do I
think he would be thoughts on favorite. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
think he has a better chance now than twenty twenty by the significant amount,
because it's this weird thing where he's both outsider and insider. It's weird.
It's like he gets to run as if he's the incumbent without any of the
baggage of being an incumbent. It's it's it's like he's more powerful than he
was either in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty. It's crazy. Yeah, I
did. I did write a piece this week on General Mark Millie, who's
stepping down as I want to see the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff
now, just because we're talking about Trump and this. Jeffrey Goldberg wrote this
Atlantic piece. It was an ode. It was like almost seven thousand words
telling us how great General General Milly was and the headline was the Patriot how
General Mark Milly protected the Constitution from Donald Trump. So I read this piece
because I I do that sort of thing for my job, and I'm reading
through it and I'm like, you know, what's missing here a single instance
of George Mark Milly ever protecting or defending the Constitution. And it hit me.
He is like the prototypical ladder climbing DC type who basically tells people what
they want to hear. And this whole piece is just kind of like a
legacy saving piece, and it reminded me of the whole Donald Trump presidency,
where how can I say this, the fears and the scare mongering of the
left to become a reality that isn't you know, that becomes a reality that
people talk about like if it's real. For instance, one of the ways
Goldberg says that Milly saved the country was to protect us from Donald Trump starting
a war with China or Russia or something too as a kind of wag the
dog so he could take power. But that never happened. You could read
the piece, you could look at history. That never happened. Donald Trump
never in fact, he was more reluctant to you military force. I would
say that any president in a really long time, so that never happened.
After the election, there's not a single instance of that ever, anyone even
saying that he said that. There's not a single instance of Trump sending anyone
down to the military military to tell them that there's going to be a coup
or that they should break the law or anything like that. Milly lies all
the time. He said that, you know, he was worried about this
stuff after January six because he blamed Donald Trump. Donald Trump conceded on January
seventh the next day. People forget that, right anyway, It's just this
long piece, and it made me think, this is how history is going
to be written. Even history now is difficult to trust when you read it
because people like Jeffrey Goldberg, who who wrote that piece about how Trump had
right before the election about Trump had said that soldiers who die in wore are
losers and suckers or something like that, without any sources. Even though now
I'm thinking maybe it was Mark Milly who who told him that, because it
seems like it seems like the type of guy who would do that sort of
thing. But anyway, I don't know. I'm babbling on. Hey,
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I love your piece and I encourage everybody to read it. One of the
things you were saying was that you know just how interesting it is that in
their quest to save democracy, all these people on the left are constantly doing
anti democratic things, and they justify it on the grounds that the things that
they believe are real. Exactly. It's pretty terrifying. Well, and let
me just quickly stress that I want to talk about he General Millie called the
Chinese COMMI military and told them if we attack, I'm going to give you
a call ahead of time because of Donald Trump, even though there was no
evidence that Donald Trump would did anything to escalate tensions with China. This is
a clear He clearly circumvented civilian control over the military, which is one of
the bedrocks of democracy, quote unquote, and yet he did it to save
us from an imagine, you know, from scaremongering over Trump. So let
me ask you, what can't you do now to save democracy from Donald Donald
Trump? What what norm can you not break? What? What what democratic
institutional uh norm can you not break to save us from Donald Trump? It's
ridiculous. Yeah. No, Their argument seems to be you can be seditious
if it goes against the Orange guy, which I don't even think they disagree
with this idea. They're all pretty favorable toward it. I do think it's
interesting, as you know that Jeffrey Goldberg wrote the ein Marn hoax. That
was the hoax, the unsubstantiated claim. I mean, he claimed he had
for anonymous sources saying something that something like twenty five on the record sources strongly
und or renounced. He claimed that he had secret sources who had secretly heard
Donald Trump say that the reason why he didn't visit Einmarn cemetery outside of Paris
was because he secretly hated dead American soldiers. And among the things that are
on the record here that would give you a reason to doubt it, one
contemporaneous reports that they were not allowing the president to travel that day because of
Rainey Rhodes, to the fact he visited an American World War One or World
War two cemetery, I don't know. He visited American cemetery the next day
despite his supposed hatred for the brave dead American soldiers. And then you had
again like two dozen people saying I was there in the room. He was
actually upset that he couldn't go visit these people. Every time he's ever had
an opportunity to show respect to American soldiers dead or alive. He's done so.
And this included people who loathed Donald Trump, like men like John Bull,
who said, I don't like this guy, but that's a lie.
So you've got all these people on the record, plus the contemporaries reports Jeffrey
Goldberg, who just did a profile of Mark Milly that was very generous and
completely regurgitating Mark Millary. Generous is yes, that's just interesting, isn't it.
So was Mark Milley the source of this scurreless lie, a deep state
operation to spread a lie. By the way, that was a lie that
made it into a presidential debate. It was used in commercials, and it
was a lie. And Jeffrey Goldberg has not been called to account for that.
He's not been a call to account for his water carrying of the Iraq
war lies. Like this is a guy you go to when you're like,
hey, who who'll share our lies? I know Jeffrey Goldberg, And here
it happens again. Well, I have to laugh at the idea that the
editor of The Atlantic cares to protect the constitution, that there are many writers
and many pieces in that publication that are just anti constitutional. They want to
undo the Constitution. So I don't I don't buy that at all, but
yeah, it was more than generous. The pieces just over the top.
But listen, I agree that sometimes Donald Trump says stuff obviously that makes this
kind of thing more plausible than maybe it would be otherwise, But that doesn't
excuse the lack of journalistic accountability and unprofessionalism that people like Jeffrey Goldberg, who
is now like, isn't he like the host of the PBS like one of
the PBS shows, Yeah, Propaganda Hour, And the problem is that guys
like that keep falling up and up and up, and let's not forget he
could not he fired Kevin Williams Williamson after what was it like a few days
because some of his staff complained he's a complete you know, which, which
is an act of cowardice, whether you like Kevin or not. So anyway,
I just thought that that was an interesting story and an interesting kind of
revisionism that we're going to have to deal with over and over again as these
people who we're bad journalists write the history of this time. What's that guy's
name who always calls Trump and Nazi writes like historical you're gonna have to be
more specifically writes his names with a bee, Michael with the bee anyway,
unquote presidentialist storian who knows no history. Yes, yeah, he writes these
his books are but listen, I can't trust him. You can't. It's
very difficult now to trust There's another you know, the historians who help the
administration now and then wait close it. Yeah. I want to remember my
favorite Michael Besh last thing, which is when Donald Trump came back after getting
COVID and he was hospitalized at Walter Reid and he did a photo up like
at the top of the stair at the balcony to sort of show he was
okay, and the media lost their minds over it. But he said,
never before in like the history of America, have we ever seen this is
a strongman photo. This is like an authoritarian photo. And then people all
just started showing examples of every president in history with photos, you know,
of them on the balcony like waving at people. Sometimes they were hosting actual
like dictators up there. And Michael Beschloss, the world class historian of American
presidential history, did not know that he was wrong, not just like once
but in every case. I'm so bad with names, But is it Stephen
Schmidt? Is that the guy's name, the anti Trumper guy. He was
on MSNBC today and he said that Trump saying that he had a six month
plan to dismantle the deep state was a dog whistle to white supremacists because it
took Hitler six months to institute the Nazi regime Germany, which A is not
true and B is just incredibly stupid. But this beschlash guy. He once
said, right before the mid terms, if I may read a quote,
what's at stake tonight this week is the fact? Is the fact whether we
will be a democracy in the future, whether our children will be arrested and
conceivably killed. This, incidentally, was not even a Trump election. This
was a mid term in twenty twenty two, and he said on NBC that
if you don't vote the right way, your kids might conceivably be killed by
Republicans. And this is the person who's on the board all kinds of board,
like the Smithsonian History board. He is, you know, just teaches
in top schools. He's just you know, well respected. This is the
sort of thing he says, isn't this all kind of depressing. It is
like the insanity of the so called elite classes. They're not elite, but
you know, they control they control the town of Washington, DC, and
they seemed in New York they've just lost their minds, and it is pretty
depressing. It is. It feels different, you know, right now,
what we're going through than so many things in history or like just in just
my adult life. You know, I've always had preferences for different candidates,
and I've always thought that politics actually is important, particularly because of my concern
over the issue of abortion. But it does feel like things are just completely
running off the rails right now, Like the country itself lacks cohesion, purpose,
an ability to tolerate different viewpoints, like it just it's things are not
good, but we should, like, can we not be so down?
I mean, I want people to be aware of how serious the problem is,
and we obviously have a lot of work to do. But is there
anything else that we could talk about that's not so dire? No, there's
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actually I was going to compound everything you said with even more like sad stuff
about the world and elites. But I'm going to hold off on that.
Maybe we should talk about culture and that will lift people up or donless you
have another topic? No, I also don't have much on culture because I'm
working on this book. So all my time is spent working on the book,
except that I do still get to read my Bible and I'm now I
think I'm at like Psalm one thirteen or something like that, and so I'm
enjoying that. Did I already talk about going through job? I did,
right, Yeah, we talked about job and I'm really enjoying the psalms,
which is like such an idiot thing to say, we're going to lift everyone's
spirits and talk about Job. Well, I actually found it a very uplifting,
oh really uplifting. I also, I think i'd mentioned too, I
was a little confused why the friends were treated so harshly in that book.
So I did a little reading on that and discovered, you know, it
was that they still were acting like they were still failing to acknowledge how all
good things come from God, and that they were making it too much about
what Job was doing and not enough about what God was doing. But these
psalms, which I am really enjoying. There so many of them. I
think they're one hundred and fifty, so I'm at like one ten or whatever.
They're not always long, they're really just I know I could tell already.
I was like, if I make it to old age, I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna park here in the psalms and just read them over and
over. So beautifully written, so it seems to include all of what Scripture
says, both prior, you know, what I've read prior and like what's
to come. And there's a great variety in it. And it's just I'm
I'm happy to be here. I want to this is a place I want
to visit again. The Psalms, so isn't aren't they or perhaps religious Jews,
even though I don't know that like modern his you know, scholars of
the Bible believe it that they are attributed to King David, most of them.
Yeah, yeah, okay, and they're all based on like I mean,
it's not just David. It's David in particular points where he's talking about
different battles he's going into or mistakes he's made since committed. So it's really
well done. All right, all right, well that sense. Tell me
about the twelve movies you watched since last week? David? Could it be
like she she has something serious here? And I tried to like chime in
and say the obvious King David wrote them right, But I did watch a
few, not a ton. Oh So I feel like I'm at a dead
end. So I'm on all my streaming services. I'm always looking around.
I can never find anything I really want to watch. So I see this
movie called Guy Ritchie's The Covenant. You know Guy Ritchie is I do I
apart from him marrying Madonna. I find him very interesting. So yeah,
so I liked his early movies though yeah, I don't want to say the
name, but like, so the early movies were good. I wasn't crazy
about some later movies. I think he's gotten better. But so this is
a movie with oh my god, I'm so bad with names, Jake Jinin
Hall, Jillen Hall, Jillen Hall cool. I'm like, my, I'm
that guy. I don't really know if I like him or not. I
don't really know, but he's in it and it's about it was about Afghanistan
and he's a soldier in Afghanistan in like twenty twelve or whenever it was,
and it's about his interpreter and him. And I'm like, this is going
to be pretty bad, but I'm going to watch it anyway. And it
turned out I really really like this movie. I really we ran a review
that was not favorable of it. Really maybe on sometimes I wonder if it's
an expectation game where I just thought it was going to be terrible, but
it's about you know, his interpreter and not going to give away the story,
but I you know, there's some action, but it's not overdone it's
not like Sacharin or anything like that at the end. But it's a good
story. And you know, maybe because of last year or whenever it was,
that we withdrew from Afghanistan and we left old those interpreters there, and
I just think it's a pretty harsh and realistic as as I imagine a view
of what goes on there when when the Taliban run things, and for women,
for people who you know, for people help the Americans, you know,
and who were promised things that they never you know, that didn't get
So anyway, I thought it was pretty good. I'm now thinking maybe it
was the Wall Street Journal that ran a review that was critical of it,
but I thought one of the things they said was that it wasn't realistic.
Hmm. It was, but maybe I'm just anyway. Ron Tomatoes had a
pretty good score for it. It was like in the seventies, I think.
So, I don't know what that means, but I pretty much view
that my favorite movie will be low score on Rotten Tomatoes, critics, high
score on Rotten Tomatoes. You know, just audience audience. Yeah, listen,
I'm just I'm telling you what I thought. I listen. I don't
think it deserves the best picture, Oscar. I just thought it was what
better than I thought it would be and kept my attention and it was pretty
interesting. I'm also rewatching did you ever see Banded Brothers? Of course?
Okay? Did you ever see The Pacific? No? Okay, Well,
this is like a companion mini series to that. It's about the war in
the Pacific against the Japanese. And I started watching it. I'd never really
seen it, and I would say that the quality is not quite as good,
but it is still very good, and I enjoy that it shows Americans
as heroes and not as villains, you know. So it hits me in
the And I watched Guardian of the Galaxies Part three? Have you ever seen
any of those movies? I'm so sick of superhero movies, but I thought
this one was okay, okay, And I'm continuing to binge the The Big
Bang Theory TV show. And let me make a case for it. Let
me make a case for it. I've watched now seven seasons. Maybe it
is just empty calories, totally formula. You know what's coming. I laugh
when I'm supposed to do like a machine. But there has not been a
single instance of any kind of wokeness or any kind of like political correctness or
any kind of lesson teaching or anything like that in the show, which I
admire, And that's the reason I'm going to finish it now. Maybe it's
maybe by the end it's going to be there, but there is no I
know, you know, there's none of the stuff that we usually have to
deal with on television shows. It's just straightforward, nonsensical. And also I
like it that it celebrates smart people. It doesn't celebrate snarky people necessarily.
It celebrates weird smart people, even though they're fake smart people. So I
don't know why this is reminding me. But for cultural things. I also
went to my church's Octoberfest on Sunday. We do an October Fest every year.
It's great. We have really good brots and potato salad. I complimented
the brot the brought master. It's this like very cool guy who works at
a libertarian ish group, and I said they were really good. And he
thought it was because they had changed from bud Light to Coors Light for boiling
the brots in. He thought that you could taste the improvement. He is
from Colorado, so we have an Impa loompa band. It's really good Opa
balloompa band. Explain, I don't know, wait, what do you call
those like? I call it ompA loompa band, but I don't know what
it's actually called. It's like a big German band and they do. Do
you know what polympa is? Our fictional characters from Really Want God that are
dwarves? Right, what is the word I'm thinking of for what? The
band was a polka band, a polka kind of thing where well, I
don't there's just a traditional German band that does German beer songs. We also
had some real Germans there who were explaining that some of the songs were not
october Fest songs, they were just German songs and that that was you know.
Anyway, was there beer? We had beer. We had a pillows
a church environment. I'm not sure Lutheran, so there's beer, and that
would probably be riots if there weren't beer. And it was just like fun
talk with friends. Anyway. While I was there, I was talking to
these people and we were talking about you, and they don't go to my
church, but but their their neighbors and there I really love them and I
think I kind of told them that you would come up for my Easter gathering
that I do most years, and they got excited, and so I feel
like, now it has to happen that you come up for Easter. Do
you think you could do that? Come out from Easter? If yeah,
I'm gonna try. I'm gonna talk about this awful life. I don't put
me on the spot. I don't know what we're doing. You know my
I have a family that celebrates the Easter. So we'll see, we'll see.
There is not you know, I would like to meet all these friends
of yours. Okay, great, but I am going to laugh very hard
about this simple olymputh thing. And I bet you we're going to get mail
about it. So I'm going to tell everyone that they can reach us at
radio at the Federalist dot com. Someone said, did you see that guy
who sent said that this is not hate mail for David and then insulted me.
I loved that. I actually shared it with other people on staff because
I thought it was so funny. Can I say what he said? He
said I was growing on him like an eighties s super STD or something like
that, which I feel is like This is not a hate mail. This
is fan mail. It's like when people tell you they're not interrupting you when
they are interrupting your or you know, or don't take this personally when they're
personally insulting you. Okay, so it's an oompa? Is that word?
Maybe I'm mocked. That's why I jokingly call it oompa loompa. But sometimes
yeah, here it is oompa music voke Volke st Milich music form of German
music. Oh I'm sorry, I mocked too, but umpa loompas a little
it was. It's okay to mock me, I was, you know I
okay, no, no, that sounds like fun. I'm happy that you
had fun with your church. That's something i'd like to be invited to.
Not that your Easter party is not going to be great, but beer and
brought yeah it's goodies. Yeah, okay, right, well we'll talk about
it. We'll talk about your Easter partter next week maybe, And until then
everyone should be lover as a freedom and anxious for the frien