1 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,039 Welcome back, every one to a new episode of You Were Wrong with Molly 2 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Hemingway and David Harsani. Molly, I quite enjoyed your piece this week on 3 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:31,719 that ABC Washington Post, ABC News Washington Post poll showing Donald Trump up by 4 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,039 ten points. It was funny to see what happened when that poll was released 5 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,640 late Saturday night and people started talking about it. A lot of Democrats, 6 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:50,159 whether they are reporters or overt politicians, pundits were freaking out about it, 7 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,520 and they immediately started dismissing the poll, including the Washington Post itself was asking 8 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,600 its readers to please not believe their own poll that they had published. And 9 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,439 there is, of course always reason for skepticism of polls. That's a very 10 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,200 good trait to have to be skeptical of polls, and the Washington Post ABC 11 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,000 poll in general is one you should be particularly skeptical of. So for years 12 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,200 it has come out with outlandish poll results that are treated as the gospel truth 13 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:23,799 by other corporate media, and they shouldn't be so. In addition to them 14 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,239 claiming that Joe Biden was up over Donald Trump during the entire twenty twenty campaign 15 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,159 by like fifteen points, even at the end they claimed it was twelve points. 16 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Of course, it came down to a very close election. They said 17 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:42,640 also in twenty twenty that Joe Biden was going to win Wisconsin by seventeen points. 18 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,439 You know, Wisconsin is a state that goes back and forth. It 19 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,439 has a Republican senator a Democrat senator. Having someone win by seventeen points in 20 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,280 the year twenty twenty would be like really amazing. And they were off by 21 00:01:55,319 --> 00:02:00,159 about seventeen points on their prediction that he would win by seventeen points. But 22 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:02,439 they never said, like, don't believe our polls back then. Only when 23 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,240 it shows Donald Trump is absolutely crushing Biden in a head to head matchup, 24 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,240 do they plead with people not to believe them. So in your piece, 25 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,639 you quote Susan Glasser, I think, is that the New Yorker, And 26 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,599 she says, sure, it's an outlier, but look at all the other 27 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,719 polls. At best, Biden is essentially tied with Donald Trump, the four 28 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,280 times indicted insurrectionists to his running on a platform of personal revenge and says he 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:31,680 is willing to terminate the constitution right. So earlier you said that when you're 30 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:36,599 polling this far out. Maybe people are sending a message about how dissatisfied they 31 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,800 are with Joe Biden, and that's certainly true. To understand that polling, 32 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,439 in addition to it usually being not very accurate, also can mean things that 33 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:50,680 are different than the straight up question is good. But I think Susan Glasser 34 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:55,520 kind of gets at that deeper message issue by pointing out that Democrats campaign strategy 35 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,840 was to indict their top political opponent in the hopes that it would kind of 36 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:04,719 destroy him politically, even if he was able to eke out a nomination, 37 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,319 you know, or something like that, that it would be very bad for 38 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,680 him. What these polls show is not just that Donald Trump is trouncing the 39 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,840 other candidates for the Republican nomination, but he's also doing very well in head 40 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:20,080 to head matchups with Biden, whether he's beating them by ten or just tied 41 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,919 with them. You know, that's like historically a very good polling result for 42 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Republicans. If you're tied, you can win big with a tie. I 43 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,400 think it shows that that strategy of indicting your political opponent to put him in 44 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:38,560 prison and remove him from the battalot is backfiring. Against Democrats. That you're 45 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:46,159 seeing these astounding numbers showing Trump doing so well shows that people do not view 46 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:53,319 these indictments as legitimate, and further, they seem to be repelled by them, 47 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:57,759 repelled by the idea that Democrats would think an effective campaign strategy would be 48 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,080 to prohibit people from being able to vote for the candidate of their choice using 49 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:04,719 the force of law. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting that she says 50 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Donald Trump wants to terminate the Constitution. I don't know if Donald Trump says 51 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,599 a lot of crazy authoritarian things sometimes, like his contention that we should shut 52 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,839 down NBC or charge them for treason or whatever he's said today. But the 53 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:21,319 fact is that he says a lot of those things. That's the choice. 54 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,319 And still people, I think realize that the left is just as authoritarian, 55 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,120 in fact more authoritarian in their actual use of power. I just think that's 56 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,560 true. But I just quickly wanted to say the real reason, though, 57 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,360 I think that you see these numbers is that Joe Biden's just a really bad 58 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:39,839 president. He's bad on the economy, he's bad on the border, he's 59 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:45,680 bad on foreign policy. He can't articulate any kind of position that makes sense 60 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,279 on any of these things. He's messed up energy, He's messed up what 61 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:53,560 should have been the easiest and recovery slam dunk in the history of the United 62 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:00,759 States after a man made COVID recession. So I think people realize that, 63 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,240 and that is the real reason, the leading reason for why most Independents and 64 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:11,800 others won't aren't naturally automatically vote Republican would be anti Biden. Well, one 65 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,519 of these polls, I can't remember which one it was, said something about 66 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:19,000 how Republicans have an advantage on whether or not people think they can handle the 67 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,519 economy better than the opposing party that they have never seen in the history of 68 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,000 polling until anyone. Yeah. Yeah, So it brings to mind another interesting 69 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,120 thing, which is that the Biden campaign had a strategy, in addition to 70 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:42,639 indicting their top political opponent, of making Biden nomics be the thing they ran 71 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:46,800 on. And when Democrats come up with campaign strategies like this, they don't 72 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:50,879 get the kind of scrutiny that a real press would get, because the moment 73 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,800 someone says, yeah, we're going to run on the economy at a time 74 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,519 when we've driven the economy into the ground. A real press would say that's 75 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:01,319 absurd, and let's talk about how absurd it is, and instead they all 76 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:04,480 kind of uncritically regurgitated it, like that's fine, that sounds like a good 77 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,560 idea, mister president, you're the best. And it takes polling like this 78 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,160 for people to realize, like, oh, that's not just a Republican talking 79 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:16,399 appoint talking point that people are upset about inflation or that they can't really buy 80 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,240 or sell houses. So that's that's a real issue out there in the hinterlands. 81 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,399 Yeah. I mean I've said this before. Bidonomics is not an actual 82 00:06:25,439 --> 00:06:30,240 thing. There's no set of beliefs or economic ideas that make up bidonomics. 83 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,279 It's just a bunch of leftist policies spending, raising taxes, expanding the welfare 84 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:41,439 state, and it has really backfired by what happens. In their defense, 85 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:46,399 I do think they think massive government spending is a policy that they but it's 86 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:51,360 not uniquely bidonomics. It's you know what I'm saying, Like Reaganomics was actually 87 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:57,519 a set of policies that were different than you know that we're unique to that 88 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:00,639 presidency. I mean, they came not from Reagan, but from other people, 89 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:02,959 but they were unique. But bionomics, it's like they just changed the 90 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,199 name. You know, they changed the name. But what was it initially 91 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,839 called Make America Better or whatever to the Inflation Reduction Act. I mean it 92 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:14,279 was, it had nothing to do with in reducing inflation. It's just monikers. 93 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,399 You know. Sorry, something you said is kind of bothering me, 94 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:18,920 so I can't let it go. You'd said something about how Donald Trump had 95 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:27,360 said these authoritarian things about going after MSNBC, whereas Democrats are actually doing some 96 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,800 of this stuff, and so you said they're just as bad, if not 97 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:33,680 worse, And I feel like that really undersells what we're talking about here. 98 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:39,839 I think you and I agree that you shouldn't even like however much you may 99 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:43,199 hate the media, which is not enough. There's a difference between hating the 100 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,040 media and saying you let them shut down through the power of the government. 101 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,639 And so that's bad, but it's not just as bad, if not worse. 102 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:57,439 It is objectively speaking, horrifically worse. That we have a regime that 103 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:03,600 is attempting to shut down news and information and the spread of news and information 104 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:09,920 that is contrary to what the regime wants. That is. It is almost 105 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,720 unquantifiable how much worse it is than just saying that you wish that a media 106 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 company could be shut down, you know, from the government, and they 107 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,399 we have many government agencies in the military, in the Department of Defense, 108 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:28,920 at DHS, at State, and they're all working with big tech and other 109 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,240 governments to suppress news and information. And they're doing it every day. There's 110 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,840 this suit that's probably going to be seen but heard by the Supreme Court on 111 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,679 the role of the government in suppressing America's First Amendment, American's First Amendment rights. 112 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,840 First Amendment protected rights. But it's even bigger than that. It's bigger 113 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,879 than saying like, oh, you're not allowed to say this or that on 114 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:58,200 Twitter. There is a whole system designed to crush any media outlet from being 115 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,919 able to publish or exist, or get advertising, or get distribution or have 116 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,679 hosting if they disagree with what the government, as run by Democrats, says 117 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,440 like that's we can't. People need to know how serious of a threat this 118 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:16,000 is to the republic, and we can't. We can't overstate what a big 119 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,639 threat this is. Well, so let me say I think you're right. 120 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:26,279 Objectively, Democrats are far worse on speech than Republicans. In fact, objectively, 121 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,639 Joe Biden is leagues worse than Donald Trump was as president, who did 122 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,120 nothing that I can recall to limit anyone's speech. Even the Obama administrations spied 123 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:43,320 on regularly spied on journalists and involve themselves in speech issues in why they shouldn't 124 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,399 Democrats themselves in recent polling, if you're going to believe this polling like sixty 125 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,559 five percent, I think it is, I could have that number wrong. 126 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:54,000 Believe that sometimes it's okay to censor disinformation, misinformation, whatever it is. 127 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:58,519 So yeah, objectively they are worse. But it's very difficult where I think 128 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:05,080 it is to make the case that you are the party or the side a 129 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,120 free speech when you have the leader of that party spouting off and saying nonsensical 130 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,399 things or authoritarian things. So it bothers me, That's what I'm saying. 131 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:16,799 But yes, okay, executively, yes, that was a thousand word way 132 00:10:18,039 --> 00:10:20,960 of saying that I agree with you, that you're not wrong. Someone told 133 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,559 me I should use Someone suggested that during the podcast I should use like seventies 134 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,000 like sitcom sayings to you, like what you're talking about, Molly or you 135 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:33,240 know, like stuthing like that and like try to slip him in and see 136 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,840 if readers can email us and find them. But anyway, go on, 137 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,200 that's that. Oh, okay, we're done with that topic. So anyway, 138 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Yeah, I just wanted to say that that I don't buy that polling. 139 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:48,559 I don't think Donald Trump is ten points ahead. Also, national polls 140 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,360 don't really matter. You have to look at state polls and all of that. 141 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,720 But if I was a Democrat, I'd be pretty nervous right now that 142 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,320 literally you have a guy who is indicted four times, who is saying these 143 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,919 things, who is who is not very popular, and he's tied with your 144 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:11,440 eighty whatever year old president and that's a big problem. All right, So 145 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:18,240 the Republican there's a Republican primary debate, yeah, this week in California. 146 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,879 And ahead of that, there was some discussion about how they're having Gavin Newsom 147 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:28,240 be the surrogate for the Biden campaign and how awful that is for Kamala Harris 148 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:33,039 that she doesn't get to be the surrogate for her own campaign or something. 149 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:37,639 But it is kind of interesting that you would roll out Gavin K. Newsom 150 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,200 to be the person that talks on behalf of your campaign when he's such a 151 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,559 reminder of all the problems you have with your main candidate, you know, 152 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,639 so old, so decrepit, so like scary to look at versus you know, 153 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,240 they have very similar policies, Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden. They're both 154 00:11:56,279 --> 00:12:01,080 far left, but they both try to claim that they're moderate. One does 155 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,399 that with more success than another. But you know, he's kind of like 156 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,080 able to articulate a thought, and he walks without stumbling. He knows which 157 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,600 direction to go on stage. You know, it's a bad thing to remind 158 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,960 people what you're dealing with versus what they could have if they were to switch 159 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 this horse in midstream. What do you make of the DeSantis Newsome debate? 160 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Do you think that's a good idea in general? So it's happening a little 161 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,360 late, I would say if I were desantists strategist, I would want that 162 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:35,159 debate earlier, particularly since they're not getting to debate their main opponent, Donald 163 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,000 Trump. So I think it'll be good. I'll be watching, And I 164 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:46,200 actually thought Sean Hannity did a great job interviewing Gavin Newsom a few months back 165 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:48,720 on his Fox Show, and they had a good rapport. But it was 166 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:52,639 also a pretty tough interview, which I don't know if I just wasn't expecting 167 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,679 that, but it was a good substantive interview, so I would expect a 168 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:07,600 good substantive discussion and debate. Cold turkey great on sandwiches. Probably not the 169 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,799 best way to break your bad habits. 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Actually, I was just thinking they've got this big thing where they're 204 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,720 spending a lot of money through the end of October in the hopes that they 205 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:46,720 can reverse their the direction they've been going. So they kind of started off 206 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:52,080 really strong and they've been just moving down and they're hoping that by running a 207 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,600 bunch of ads and I one particular, that they can they can fight back 208 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:58,840 there. But November thirtieth is kind of late, so I'm not sure how 209 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,360 that I'll go. I'm also thinking about Chris Christie, who's running for president 210 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:07,440 for the Republican nomination for president and is doing very poorly. I think he's 211 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,919 got like two or three percentage points. He's extremely well funded by never Trump 212 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,960 activist owners, and yet he's just not resonating with the crowd. And at 213 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,519 the same time, you have the situation with Menendez where he's been indicted. 214 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:26,600 He will not probably even get the nomination if he wanted to run again next 215 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,000 year, but he's certainly not going to be He's not going to be the 216 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:33,639 guy running for reelection. So in New Jersey, you have an open Senate 217 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:40,279 seat and you have a former governor of the state and Chris Christie who claims 218 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:44,200 he's not doing this for money, or for power, or for a claim, 219 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:48,399 or for friendly media coverage, but that he's really doing this run for 220 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,159 the presidency because he cares about the country and he wants the Republican Party to 221 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:59,080 moderate, and that views like his are more popular and that they will resonate 222 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,840 better, and that there's been this dangerous turn in the Senate where people like 223 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,680 jd Vance and Josh Holly are the new up and comers when it should be 224 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,480 people who share his views so I'm like, if that's true, if what 225 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:15,319 he's saying is true, and he's not just doing this for money or for 226 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,519 friendly pats from the media or for future board positions, he should run for 227 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:22,559 Senate from New Jersey. And it's not because I'm a big Chris Christy fan. 228 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,640 I don't like his social liberalism, I don't like his economic liberalism. 229 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,799 But would he be better than a Bob Menendez type person. Yes, so 230 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:37,920 he should. If he cares about the country, he should absolutely run for 231 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:45,559 Senate from New Jersey and we can test how popular his ideas are and whether 232 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,559 he actually cares for the country. And I just want to say, not 233 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,200 having someone like him who could generate a lot of interest and be competitive running 234 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,880 would mean that Democrats wouldn't have to spend so much in that race. So 235 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,319 if he really cares about the republic Party and its strength, being able to 236 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,680 just at least force the Democrats to spend a lot of money in that state 237 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,680 would show, you know, does he care about the country, does he 238 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,240 care about the party or is this just about himself? Yeah, I don't 239 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:18,599 think he can win a race in New Jersey today, and this is not 240 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,440 about the country, And not about the party, and you made this argument. 241 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,960 But also, by the way, for Larry Hogan and Kristen knew christ 242 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:32,759 new New's opportunity was last year and he would have won. He absolutely would 243 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:36,039 have won that. And instead he wants to play spoiler for Trump, which 244 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:38,920 is like, Okay, Larry Hogan, I think could win. No, 245 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,559 I mean he's again. He says he was his little pack or whatever. 246 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:48,200 You know, he's trying to do a no labels run. And they're always 247 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,000 putting out information about how he's the most popular governor in America, which is 248 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:53,880 like, aren't we sure about that? But let's just say it's true. 249 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,279 Let's just say Larry Hogan was the most popular governor in America and he's brought 250 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:04,319 appeal to Democrats and Republicans. Why in the world that's another open seat, 251 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,960 right, it's Ben Cardon. He's not running again, so he could win 252 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,119 an open seat, no problem, easy peasy. He's not going to be 253 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:18,559 president even if he didn't look like a cartoon character. He would not be 254 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,799 president. But he could be senator, and then he could he could push 255 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:27,000 for his liberal Republicanism in the Senate if he really cared about the things he 256 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:33,119 claims to care about simple test run for Senate. And again, even if 257 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,160 you lose, you're forcing Democrats to put a lot of money in your state, 258 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,880 and that can help the whole team. I will just point out I 259 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:48,559 think that there are that voters Democrats are more open to Republicans as governors than 260 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,400 they are as senators. So there are in the North. There is a 261 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,119 tradition in a number of states, even in Massachusetts where you have Republican governors, 262 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,000 because it's almost closer to home, those policies are a little different. 263 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,960 I'm not sure that those same voters would would would put a Republican in the 264 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,559 Senate where there's a whole different set of issues. I'm not saying it couldn't 265 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:11,839 happen, but I do wonder if these people would win Senate runs. But 266 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,240 your point still stands for sure. I mean, especially with Chris Christy, 267 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,839 I don't think he's that popular anymore in New Jersey. I think you would 268 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,160 lose, but but yeah, he's here. And also, it's a false 269 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,720 choice, this choice, and I keep fighting against it. Sometimes I feel 270 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,640 like I'm a little bit alone on it. But there's the choice is not 271 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,559 Chris Christy or Josh Holly. Those are both big government conservatives in my mind, 272 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:37,640 the big government Republicans. There are other choices. You don't have to 273 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,720 be either of those types of candidates to win anyway. I don't think that's 274 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,359 going to happen. Is he in the you know? I think he just 275 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:51,319 wants to get a job on CNN or run some you know organization like no 276 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,440 Labels make money. Maybe he's a lawyer, obviously, I don't know. 277 00:20:55,519 --> 00:21:00,920 We'll see. By the way, the Republican debate will not matter at all. 278 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,599 It's going to be a fight over one percent of the vote between like 279 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Vivek Ramashwani and Nicki Haley or de Santis. Like it's just someone's going to 280 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,559 dunk on someone and everyone's going to talk about it in the DC and no 281 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,079 one in the country is going to care because I'm just going to say, 282 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:21,440 now, I just don't see how even RHN de Santis, who I think 283 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,920 would be the best candidate running away, can catch Trump. I just don't 284 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,160 see it unless some Trump steps down or whatever. I just don't see it. 285 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,480 I was met at an event this week with with a lot of like 286 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:38,000 Republican donor types, and it was interesting. It was an interesting crowd because 287 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:42,720 half the crowd, or like half people I spoke with, they are super 288 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:48,000 fans of Trump and they are just done talking about the Republican primary. They're 289 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:51,559 like, our work here is done. We're done over. Like it's very 290 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:53,079 cute that you want to talk about other people, but we are not interested 291 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,200 in talking. We're we moved on to the general kind of thing. And 292 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:02,920 the other half was very much thinking that it's not over. And they're like, 293 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,720 okay, so here's the strategy. Trump support has to soften, which 294 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,319 I actually think is probably true. I mean, he's at like ridiculously high 295 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,119 numbers that can't I don't think they can be sustained. Like Trump support will 296 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,480 soften, and then what if, you know, Rhonda Scantist makes a really 297 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:23,240 good go of it in Iowa, and then what if Chris Chrissy does a 298 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,960 really good job in New Hampshire. And so they were trying to like game 299 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,839 this all out, and I'm like, huh, it's just interesting. In 300 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,039 my mind. You don't want if you're if you don't want Trump to win, 301 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,319 you don't want his support to soften. You basically need it to flatline, 302 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,359 you know, like he could soften a lot like many, many, 303 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,559 many dozens of percentage points, and he would still be the nominee. So 304 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:51,200 you need it to just crater, and then you probably need just one or 305 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,319 two of the other You need to like coalesce behind someone else and then have 306 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 them just hit the lottery a bunch and you know, do a really good 307 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,720 job. I don't I just don't see those I don't see how it's going. 308 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:06,200 But it was just a reminder of how similar twenty twenty three is to 309 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:10,359 twenty fifteen. Same types of conversations in DC, where people would be like, 310 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,240 yeah, Trump's ahead, but obviously he's not going to be the nominee, 311 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,039 so I think it's going to be Rubio or whatever. You know. 312 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,240 They would kind of like all dismiss the actual front runner and just act like 313 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:22,519 there was no way it was going to be him. Yeah, I mean, 314 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,319 I think, I think, I think someone had a better I think 315 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,200 a candidate had a better chance against Trump in twenty fifteen. If they would 316 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,160 have, people would have dropped out and coalesced around one real conservative type then 317 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,960 they do now, where guys like Chris Christy even his one two percent, 318 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:41,319 a lot of that's probably coming from DeSantis or someone who could who would be 319 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,160 able to maybe challenge Trump if there were only two choices. But there aren't 320 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,599 two choices. There are a bunch of choices. And the people show up 321 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,640 for primaries and are involved in that, are really involved in politics. They 322 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,720 clearly looks like they want Trump right. So I think if it was open 323 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,960 to like all Republicans, this would be a different kind of story maybe, 324 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,279 but it's not. And even there, Trump is way ahead. So listen. 325 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,240 Like I've said it many times, I don't think he's the best candidate 326 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,640 by far, but I just you said, you said the debate doesn't matter, 327 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,839 and I would argue that there are ways that it does matter. So 328 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,440 do you remember how in twenty fifteen sixteen, I guess it was like early 329 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,759 twenty sixteen, there was the South Carolina primary debate. I don't remember who 330 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,480 hosted or what it was, but I just remember thinking, oh, this 331 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,200 is going to go very poorly for Trump because he said something like George W. 332 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Bush allowed nine to eleven to happen, And I'm like, I know 333 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:41,279 about South Carolina. South Carolina is a big military area. They're not going 334 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,000 to stand for that kind of thing. Donald Trump won that primary walking away, 335 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,039 right. But my point in mentioning it is mostly how it helps you 336 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,119 see what issues are animating Republicans. The fact that Ron de Santis primarily but 337 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:03,039 then also of a vague Ramaswami capture so much of the vote of the along 338 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:06,319 with Donald Trump, it tells you something about the Republican electorate and what they're 339 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:12,359 looking for. The fact that big donors and establishment Republicans are just now clinging 340 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,759 to Nicki Haley and the hopes that she can save them from their problems tells 341 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:22,119 you what they support and what issues they care about. And so you still 342 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,759 can learn from these debates a great deal, even if it seems that the 343 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:32,559 primary contest is mostly over. Yeah, it tells me that Republican primary growers 344 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,880 are ridiculous, frankly, But you know, and you can roll your eyes 345 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,200 and get angry at me. I mean, there are choices out there who 346 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:44,160 are not Nicky Haley, who are running states, who have turned states, 347 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,880 read, who are competent, who can run good campaigns, and they want 348 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,200 the entertainment value and the you know, they want Donald to see Donald Trump 349 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:56,799 dunking on the left. You know, I don't know you think it's fair 350 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,240 to make an argument that if Donald Trump cared about the country, you would 351 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,000 step aside for someone and younger rather than being a one term president with a 352 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:06,680 lot of baggage. You're saying, like how I said, Chris Christy, 353 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:10,319 if he cared about the country, would stop his futile race to be president. 354 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680 It's not futile for Trump. That's why I feel like I don't. 355 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,200 I don't actually begrudge people running for president for various reasons. I think it's 356 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,079 fine the fact that Chris Christie has no shot there but could potentially. I 357 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:26,839 mean, I hear what you're saying, he's so disliked in New Jersey now 358 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,599 that he actually couldn't win a state right race. Maybe, but also the 359 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,759 way people feel now might be different than how they would feel after a year 360 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:40,880 of campaigning. You know, you don't know, but no, I think 361 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:45,279 that if there were, it's hard to say that about someone who's who's like 362 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,400 the odds on favorite to not just win the primary, but actually win the 363 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,440 presidency back do you think he's on the odds on favorite to win the presidency 364 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,839 right now? Only right now? I don't mean by that that he will 365 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440 I don't mean that I will feel the same way in a month, but 366 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,160 like right now, if the election were held today, absolutely, do I 367 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,200 think he would be thoughts on favorite. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 368 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:10,519 think he has a better chance now than twenty twenty by the significant amount, 369 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,079 because it's this weird thing where he's both outsider and insider. It's weird. 370 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,759 It's like he gets to run as if he's the incumbent without any of the 371 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:21,920 baggage of being an incumbent. It's it's it's like he's more powerful than he 372 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,319 was either in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty. It's crazy. Yeah, I 373 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,079 did. I did write a piece this week on General Mark Millie, who's 374 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:36,599 stepping down as I want to see the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff 375 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,720 now, just because we're talking about Trump and this. Jeffrey Goldberg wrote this 376 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:48,599 Atlantic piece. It was an ode. It was like almost seven thousand words 377 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,480 telling us how great General General Milly was and the headline was the Patriot how 378 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:59,400 General Mark Milly protected the Constitution from Donald Trump. So I read this piece 379 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,240 because I I do that sort of thing for my job, and I'm reading 380 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,599 through it and I'm like, you know, what's missing here a single instance 381 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:12,039 of George Mark Milly ever protecting or defending the Constitution. And it hit me. 382 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:19,640 He is like the prototypical ladder climbing DC type who basically tells people what 383 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,519 they want to hear. And this whole piece is just kind of like a 384 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,960 legacy saving piece, and it reminded me of the whole Donald Trump presidency, 385 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:32,640 where how can I say this, the fears and the scare mongering of the 386 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,960 left to become a reality that isn't you know, that becomes a reality that 387 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,839 people talk about like if it's real. For instance, one of the ways 388 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Goldberg says that Milly saved the country was to protect us from Donald Trump starting 389 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,119 a war with China or Russia or something too as a kind of wag the 390 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,400 dog so he could take power. But that never happened. You could read 391 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,880 the piece, you could look at history. That never happened. Donald Trump 392 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,480 never in fact, he was more reluctant to you military force. I would 393 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,720 say that any president in a really long time, so that never happened. 394 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:08,680 After the election, there's not a single instance of that ever, anyone even 395 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,079 saying that he said that. There's not a single instance of Trump sending anyone 396 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,240 down to the military military to tell them that there's going to be a coup 397 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:19,079 or that they should break the law or anything like that. Milly lies all 398 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,920 the time. He said that, you know, he was worried about this 399 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,240 stuff after January six because he blamed Donald Trump. Donald Trump conceded on January 400 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,279 seventh the next day. People forget that, right anyway, It's just this 401 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:37,559 long piece, and it made me think, this is how history is going 402 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,079 to be written. Even history now is difficult to trust when you read it 403 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:47,279 because people like Jeffrey Goldberg, who who wrote that piece about how Trump had 404 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,960 right before the election about Trump had said that soldiers who die in wore are 405 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,880 losers and suckers or something like that, without any sources. Even though now 406 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,759 I'm thinking maybe it was Mark Milly who who told him that, because it 407 00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:02,079 seems like it seems like the type of guy who would do that sort of 408 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:08,720 thing. But anyway, I don't know. I'm babbling on. Hey, 409 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,720 y'all, this is Sarah Carter, investigative columnist and host of The Sarah Carter 410 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:18,039 Show. Thanks for listening to the Federalist. We all have a heartfelt reason 411 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,000 to support our blood pressure. 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Well, and let 429 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:48,279 me just quickly stress that I want to talk about he General Millie called the 430 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Chinese COMMI military and told them if we attack, I'm going to give you 431 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400 a call ahead of time because of Donald Trump, even though there was no 432 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,200 evidence that Donald Trump would did anything to escalate tensions with China. This is 433 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,240 a clear He clearly circumvented civilian control over the military, which is one of 434 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,160 the bedrocks of democracy, quote unquote, and yet he did it to save 435 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:13,240 us from an imagine, you know, from scaremongering over Trump. So let 436 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,319 me ask you, what can't you do now to save democracy from Donald Donald 437 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:21,119 Trump? What what norm can you not break? What? What what democratic 438 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,400 institutional uh norm can you not break to save us from Donald Trump? It's 439 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,839 ridiculous. Yeah. No, Their argument seems to be you can be seditious 440 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:36,079 if it goes against the Orange guy, which I don't even think they disagree 441 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,519 with this idea. They're all pretty favorable toward it. I do think it's 442 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:44,559 interesting, as you know that Jeffrey Goldberg wrote the ein Marn hoax. That 443 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,160 was the hoax, the unsubstantiated claim. I mean, he claimed he had 444 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:58,000 for anonymous sources saying something that something like twenty five on the record sources strongly 445 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,359 und or renounced. He claimed that he had secret sources who had secretly heard 446 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:10,039 Donald Trump say that the reason why he didn't visit Einmarn cemetery outside of Paris 447 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,960 was because he secretly hated dead American soldiers. And among the things that are 448 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:20,200 on the record here that would give you a reason to doubt it, one 449 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,240 contemporaneous reports that they were not allowing the president to travel that day because of 450 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:30,039 Rainey Rhodes, to the fact he visited an American World War One or World 451 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:35,920 War two cemetery, I don't know. He visited American cemetery the next day 452 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,319 despite his supposed hatred for the brave dead American soldiers. And then you had 453 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,920 again like two dozen people saying I was there in the room. He was 454 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,079 actually upset that he couldn't go visit these people. Every time he's ever had 455 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,880 an opportunity to show respect to American soldiers dead or alive. He's done so. 456 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:59,880 And this included people who loathed Donald Trump, like men like John Bull, 457 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:02,160 who said, I don't like this guy, but that's a lie. 458 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,759 So you've got all these people on the record, plus the contemporaries reports Jeffrey 459 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:13,119 Goldberg, who just did a profile of Mark Milly that was very generous and 460 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:19,280 completely regurgitating Mark Millary. Generous is yes, that's just interesting, isn't it. 461 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,320 So was Mark Milley the source of this scurreless lie, a deep state 462 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,840 operation to spread a lie. By the way, that was a lie that 463 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,440 made it into a presidential debate. It was used in commercials, and it 464 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:32,639 was a lie. And Jeffrey Goldberg has not been called to account for that. 465 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,239 He's not been a call to account for his water carrying of the Iraq 466 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960 war lies. Like this is a guy you go to when you're like, 467 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:45,599 hey, who who'll share our lies? I know Jeffrey Goldberg, And here 468 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,199 it happens again. Well, I have to laugh at the idea that the 469 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,320 editor of The Atlantic cares to protect the constitution, that there are many writers 470 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,239 and many pieces in that publication that are just anti constitutional. They want to 471 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,199 undo the Constitution. So I don't I don't buy that at all, but 472 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,559 yeah, it was more than generous. The pieces just over the top. 473 00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:12,440 But listen, I agree that sometimes Donald Trump says stuff obviously that makes this 474 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,239 kind of thing more plausible than maybe it would be otherwise, But that doesn't 475 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,800 excuse the lack of journalistic accountability and unprofessionalism that people like Jeffrey Goldberg, who 476 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480 is now like, isn't he like the host of the PBS like one of 477 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:31,039 the PBS shows, Yeah, Propaganda Hour, And the problem is that guys 478 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:36,079 like that keep falling up and up and up, and let's not forget he 479 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:40,719 could not he fired Kevin Williams Williamson after what was it like a few days 480 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,079 because some of his staff complained he's a complete you know, which, which 481 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:50,639 is an act of cowardice, whether you like Kevin or not. So anyway, 482 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,719 I just thought that that was an interesting story and an interesting kind of 483 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,280 revisionism that we're going to have to deal with over and over again as these 484 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:05,239 people who we're bad journalists write the history of this time. What's that guy's 485 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,400 name who always calls Trump and Nazi writes like historical you're gonna have to be 486 00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:15,039 more specifically writes his names with a bee, Michael with the bee anyway, 487 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:22,000 unquote presidentialist storian who knows no history. Yes, yeah, he writes these 488 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,920 his books are but listen, I can't trust him. You can't. It's 489 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:28,719 very difficult now to trust There's another you know, the historians who help the 490 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,159 administration now and then wait close it. Yeah. I want to remember my 491 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:37,039 favorite Michael Besh last thing, which is when Donald Trump came back after getting 492 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,920 COVID and he was hospitalized at Walter Reid and he did a photo up like 493 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:46,039 at the top of the stair at the balcony to sort of show he was 494 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,400 okay, and the media lost their minds over it. But he said, 495 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,800 never before in like the history of America, have we ever seen this is 496 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,840 a strongman photo. This is like an authoritarian photo. And then people all 497 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,719 just started showing examples of every president in history with photos, you know, 498 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:12,079 of them on the balcony like waving at people. Sometimes they were hosting actual 499 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,519 like dictators up there. And Michael Beschloss, the world class historian of American 500 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:22,960 presidential history, did not know that he was wrong, not just like once 501 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:27,079 but in every case. I'm so bad with names, But is it Stephen 502 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,280 Schmidt? Is that the guy's name, the anti Trumper guy. He was 503 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,280 on MSNBC today and he said that Trump saying that he had a six month 504 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:42,440 plan to dismantle the deep state was a dog whistle to white supremacists because it 505 00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:47,559 took Hitler six months to institute the Nazi regime Germany, which A is not 506 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,840 true and B is just incredibly stupid. But this beschlash guy. He once 507 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,079 said, right before the mid terms, if I may read a quote, 508 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,559 what's at stake tonight this week is the fact? Is the fact whether we 509 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,320 will be a democracy in the future, whether our children will be arrested and 510 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,800 conceivably killed. This, incidentally, was not even a Trump election. This 511 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,760 was a mid term in twenty twenty two, and he said on NBC that 512 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:21,280 if you don't vote the right way, your kids might conceivably be killed by 513 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,119 Republicans. And this is the person who's on the board all kinds of board, 514 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:30,639 like the Smithsonian History board. He is, you know, just teaches 515 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,800 in top schools. He's just you know, well respected. This is the 516 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,599 sort of thing he says, isn't this all kind of depressing. It is 517 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,079 like the insanity of the so called elite classes. They're not elite, but 518 00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:46,239 you know, they control they control the town of Washington, DC, and 519 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,639 they seemed in New York they've just lost their minds, and it is pretty 520 00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,519 depressing. It is. It feels different, you know, right now, 521 00:38:54,599 --> 00:39:00,960 what we're going through than so many things in history or like just in just 522 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,199 my adult life. You know, I've always had preferences for different candidates, 523 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,679 and I've always thought that politics actually is important, particularly because of my concern 524 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,719 over the issue of abortion. But it does feel like things are just completely 525 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:20,719 running off the rails right now, Like the country itself lacks cohesion, purpose, 526 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:27,199 an ability to tolerate different viewpoints, like it just it's things are not 527 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,360 good, but we should, like, can we not be so down? 528 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,119 I mean, I want people to be aware of how serious the problem is, 529 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:35,239 and we obviously have a lot of work to do. But is there 530 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,599 anything else that we could talk about that's not so dire? No, there's 531 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:49,719 nothing. The Washed Auto Wall Street Podcast with Chris Markowski. 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I was going to, 540 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,800 actually I was going to compound everything you said with even more like sad stuff 541 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,639 about the world and elites. But I'm going to hold off on that. 542 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,320 Maybe we should talk about culture and that will lift people up or donless you 543 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,800 have another topic? No, I also don't have much on culture because I'm 544 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,400 working on this book. So all my time is spent working on the book, 545 00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:49,280 except that I do still get to read my Bible and I'm now I 546 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,400 think I'm at like Psalm one thirteen or something like that, and so I'm 547 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,440 enjoying that. Did I already talk about going through job? I did, 548 00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,559 right, Yeah, we talked about job and I'm really enjoying the psalms, 549 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:05,280 which is like such an idiot thing to say, we're going to lift everyone's 550 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,400 spirits and talk about Job. Well, I actually found it a very uplifting, 551 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,559 oh really uplifting. I also, I think i'd mentioned too, I 552 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,400 was a little confused why the friends were treated so harshly in that book. 553 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,079 So I did a little reading on that and discovered, you know, it 554 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:27,480 was that they still were acting like they were still failing to acknowledge how all 555 00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,599 good things come from God, and that they were making it too much about 556 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,800 what Job was doing and not enough about what God was doing. But these 557 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,079 psalms, which I am really enjoying. There so many of them. I 558 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,519 think they're one hundred and fifty, so I'm at like one ten or whatever. 559 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,920 They're not always long, they're really just I know I could tell already. 560 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,960 I was like, if I make it to old age, I'm just 561 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,920 gonna I'm just gonna park here in the psalms and just read them over and 562 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:58,159 over. So beautifully written, so it seems to include all of what Scripture 563 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,800 says, both prior, you know, what I've read prior and like what's 564 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:06,119 to come. And there's a great variety in it. And it's just I'm 565 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:08,880 I'm happy to be here. I want to this is a place I want 566 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:16,119 to visit again. The Psalms, so isn't aren't they or perhaps religious Jews, 567 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,039 even though I don't know that like modern his you know, scholars of 568 00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,760 the Bible believe it that they are attributed to King David, most of them. 569 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,360 Yeah, yeah, okay, and they're all based on like I mean, 570 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,679 it's not just David. It's David in particular points where he's talking about 571 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:37,280 different battles he's going into or mistakes he's made since committed. So it's really 572 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,800 well done. All right, all right, well that sense. Tell me 573 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,079 about the twelve movies you watched since last week? David? Could it be 574 00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:51,840 like she she has something serious here? And I tried to like chime in 575 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,639 and say the obvious King David wrote them right, But I did watch a 576 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:02,559 few, not a ton. Oh So I feel like I'm at a dead 577 00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:06,519 end. So I'm on all my streaming services. I'm always looking around. 578 00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,119 I can never find anything I really want to watch. So I see this 579 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,840 movie called Guy Ritchie's The Covenant. You know Guy Ritchie is I do I 580 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,039 apart from him marrying Madonna. I find him very interesting. So yeah, 581 00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,320 so I liked his early movies though yeah, I don't want to say the 582 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,360 name, but like, so the early movies were good. I wasn't crazy 583 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,159 about some later movies. I think he's gotten better. But so this is 584 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:34,519 a movie with oh my god, I'm so bad with names, Jake Jinin 585 00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:42,719 Hall, Jillen Hall, Jillen Hall cool. I'm like, my, I'm 586 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,039 that guy. I don't really know if I like him or not. I 587 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,360 don't really know, but he's in it and it's about it was about Afghanistan 588 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,519 and he's a soldier in Afghanistan in like twenty twelve or whenever it was, 589 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:54,920 and it's about his interpreter and him. And I'm like, this is going 590 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,400 to be pretty bad, but I'm going to watch it anyway. And it 591 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,639 turned out I really really like this movie. I really we ran a review 592 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,400 that was not favorable of it. Really maybe on sometimes I wonder if it's 593 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,280 an expectation game where I just thought it was going to be terrible, but 594 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,760 it's about you know, his interpreter and not going to give away the story, 595 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,119 but I you know, there's some action, but it's not overdone it's 596 00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,480 not like Sacharin or anything like that at the end. But it's a good 597 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,239 story. And you know, maybe because of last year or whenever it was, 598 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,199 that we withdrew from Afghanistan and we left old those interpreters there, and 599 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,559 I just think it's a pretty harsh and realistic as as I imagine a view 600 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,320 of what goes on there when when the Taliban run things, and for women, 601 00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:46,039 for people who you know, for people help the Americans, you know, 602 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,320 and who were promised things that they never you know, that didn't get 603 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,800 So anyway, I thought it was pretty good. I'm now thinking maybe it 604 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,880 was the Wall Street Journal that ran a review that was critical of it, 605 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,519 but I thought one of the things they said was that it wasn't realistic. 606 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,400 Hmm. It was, but maybe I'm just anyway. Ron Tomatoes had a 607 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,920 pretty good score for it. It was like in the seventies, I think. 608 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,199 So, I don't know what that means, but I pretty much view 609 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,159 that my favorite movie will be low score on Rotten Tomatoes, critics, high 610 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:23,119 score on Rotten Tomatoes. You know, just audience audience. Yeah, listen, 611 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,199 I'm just I'm telling you what I thought. I listen. I don't 612 00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,760 think it deserves the best picture, Oscar. I just thought it was what 613 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,960 better than I thought it would be and kept my attention and it was pretty 614 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,039 interesting. I'm also rewatching did you ever see Banded Brothers? Of course? 615 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,639 Okay? Did you ever see The Pacific? No? Okay, Well, 616 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,880 this is like a companion mini series to that. It's about the war in 617 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,679 the Pacific against the Japanese. And I started watching it. I'd never really 618 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,119 seen it, and I would say that the quality is not quite as good, 619 00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,159 but it is still very good, and I enjoy that it shows Americans 620 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,119 as heroes and not as villains, you know. So it hits me in 621 00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:13,840 the And I watched Guardian of the Galaxies Part three? Have you ever seen 622 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,719 any of those movies? I'm so sick of superhero movies, but I thought 623 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,960 this one was okay, okay, And I'm continuing to binge the The Big 624 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,000 Bang Theory TV show. And let me make a case for it. Let 625 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:30,880 me make a case for it. I've watched now seven seasons. Maybe it 626 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:36,320 is just empty calories, totally formula. You know what's coming. I laugh 627 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,239 when I'm supposed to do like a machine. But there has not been a 628 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:45,199 single instance of any kind of wokeness or any kind of like political correctness or 629 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:51,400 any kind of lesson teaching or anything like that in the show, which I 630 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:53,840 admire, And that's the reason I'm going to finish it now. Maybe it's 631 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,880 maybe by the end it's going to be there, but there is no I 632 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,639 know, you know, there's none of the stuff that we usually have to 633 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,320 deal with on television shows. It's just straightforward, nonsensical. And also I 634 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,159 like it that it celebrates smart people. It doesn't celebrate snarky people necessarily. 635 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:17,639 It celebrates weird smart people, even though they're fake smart people. So I 636 00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:22,000 don't know why this is reminding me. But for cultural things. I also 637 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:27,360 went to my church's Octoberfest on Sunday. We do an October Fest every year. 638 00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,519 It's great. We have really good brots and potato salad. I complimented 639 00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:37,719 the brot the brought master. It's this like very cool guy who works at 640 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400 a libertarian ish group, and I said they were really good. And he 641 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:44,920 thought it was because they had changed from bud Light to Coors Light for boiling 642 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480 the brots in. He thought that you could taste the improvement. He is 643 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:54,519 from Colorado, so we have an Impa loompa band. It's really good Opa 644 00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:58,199 balloompa band. Explain, I don't know, wait, what do you call 645 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,360 those like? I call it ompA loompa band, but I don't know what 646 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,519 it's actually called. It's like a big German band and they do. Do 647 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:05,719 you know what polympa is? Our fictional characters from Really Want God that are 648 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,159 dwarves? Right, what is the word I'm thinking of for what? The 649 00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:12,559 band was a polka band, a polka kind of thing where well, I 650 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:19,320 don't there's just a traditional German band that does German beer songs. We also 651 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440 had some real Germans there who were explaining that some of the songs were not 652 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,079 october Fest songs, they were just German songs and that that was you know. 653 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,400 Anyway, was there beer? We had beer. We had a pillows 654 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,079 a church environment. I'm not sure Lutheran, so there's beer, and that 655 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,400 would probably be riots if there weren't beer. And it was just like fun 656 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,599 talk with friends. Anyway. While I was there, I was talking to 657 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,920 these people and we were talking about you, and they don't go to my 658 00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:52,119 church, but but their their neighbors and there I really love them and I 659 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,920 think I kind of told them that you would come up for my Easter gathering 660 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,719 that I do most years, and they got excited, and so I feel 661 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,719 like, now it has to happen that you come up for Easter. Do 662 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,239 you think you could do that? Come out from Easter? If yeah, 663 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,199 I'm gonna try. I'm gonna talk about this awful life. I don't put 664 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,760 me on the spot. I don't know what we're doing. You know my 665 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,400 I have a family that celebrates the Easter. So we'll see, we'll see. 666 00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:22,039 There is not you know, I would like to meet all these friends 667 00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:27,039 of yours. Okay, great, but I am going to laugh very hard 668 00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,440 about this simple olymputh thing. And I bet you we're going to get mail 669 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,039 about it. So I'm going to tell everyone that they can reach us at 670 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:37,119 radio at the Federalist dot com. Someone said, did you see that guy 671 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,519 who sent said that this is not hate mail for David and then insulted me. 672 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,519 I loved that. I actually shared it with other people on staff because 673 00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:46,760 I thought it was so funny. Can I say what he said? He 674 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,199 said I was growing on him like an eighties s super STD or something like 675 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,559 that, which I feel is like This is not a hate mail. This 676 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,599 is fan mail. It's like when people tell you they're not interrupting you when 677 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,440 they are interrupting your or you know, or don't take this personally when they're 678 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,920 personally insulting you. Okay, so it's an oompa? Is that word? 679 00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:15,920 Maybe I'm mocked. That's why I jokingly call it oompa loompa. But sometimes 680 00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:22,920 yeah, here it is oompa music voke Volke st Milich music form of German 681 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:27,440 music. Oh I'm sorry, I mocked too, but umpa loompas a little 682 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,079 it was. It's okay to mock me, I was, you know I 683 00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:34,840 okay, no, no, that sounds like fun. I'm happy that you 684 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,480 had fun with your church. That's something i'd like to be invited to. 685 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:38,920 Not that your Easter party is not going to be great, but beer and 686 00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:45,239 brought yeah it's goodies. Yeah, okay, right, well we'll talk about 687 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,039 it. We'll talk about your Easter partter next week maybe, And until then 688 00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,719 everyone should be lover as a freedom and anxious for the frien