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I was listening to the story about
It was the story of a family in

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Washington and the little boy called the
big Foot the cowboy man, and he

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had apparently it had made an effort
to steal this kid. And it hit

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me. My children were in that
playpen behind me with nothing but a mosquito

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net over him. It could have
crept up behind me and taken both of

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my children and I wouldn't know.
Father just got like a Mustang or something

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from Wyoming, Okay. He had
it out in the corral because he couldn't

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put it in the barn with in
the stalls with the other horses. It

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would kick and made all the other
horses nervous. Had a seminal Indian work

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in the horse, trying to break
it. Every day they had it out

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in the corrown. The skunky snuck
up behind his horse and grabbed it bonne

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its hind quarters. This particular horse
that kicks out, jumps over the corral,

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runs into the por you know,
to get away. At this point,

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the ranchers out there just blessed away
with the thirty thirty suncave uns into

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the slump. I went up there
one day after that, or two days

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after that I went up there and
sat in the silence up there, and

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I'm telling you, man, it
was free. It was crazy, you

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know it was. There was a
crazy vibe up there. Still. I

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did what I could to kind of
get things out of control. But I

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told her, I said, you
need to get off this problem. I

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feel like, no matter how strong
you are, it's almost like standing in

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the ocean. You can't stand still
without moving your feet. You're going to

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get knocked over eventually. No matter
how strong whatever, you can't withstand a

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barrage of weird spiritual energy and you
tip everybody it's wine. Welcome back to

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Paranormal Odyssey. Had a great show
lined up for you today. I'm excited

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to bring it to you. Had
a great, great talk with the Squatch

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Detective himself, mister Steve Coles.
This comes about a month or so after

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Steve invited me to be a guest
his show, and not so coincidentally after

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this one. You can be looking
for that episode on the very next one

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my time over there with him.
But first I'm going to share the one

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that he did with us over on
Paranormal Odyssey Live. It was a great,

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great time. Steve was a really
really cool guy. I like him,

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had a great time talking to him
both times actually when he was on

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here when I was a guest on
his and looking forward to bringing you both

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that's enough of all of that.
I know that you were ready, am

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ready. Let's get started. Steve. I apologize for the unprofessionalism of this

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show. Oh it all was forgiven. Hallowayne. Hello, Tiffany in the

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nether Oh, Steve, thank you
for coming on. I'll be there in

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just one second. Holy cow,
how you doing to not, buddy?

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I am marvelous, doing very well. You know, I'm on my weekend.

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So it's been I mean it was
in the fifties today. Oh yeah,

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I mean New York and February tenth
and the fifties unheard of, I

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know. Man. I went outside
earlier today and I always I got the

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little Alexa Amazon Alexa show thing the
screen, got it in the bedroom.

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I went to look on it because
I always look at it to tell me

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what the temperature is outside, and
it said sixty three. I didn't know

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if I needed to grab a hoodie. I'm like, hell, no,

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I don't need a hoodie. Sixty
three degrees today, man, it was

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awesome. Yeah, it was sixty
degrees in rain in here. But it

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was a warm rain, so it's
good a warm rain. Are you high?

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No? No, but you probably
wish that I were. All right,

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let's just jump in, Steve.
I want to know how you got

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your start, what got you interested
in the subject? At your background too?

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What is your background? And then
what got you started? Well,

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i'll give you my bio real quick. As a young child, I did

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have an interest in the Bigfoot phenomenon
as well as it was the time of

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in search of so, you know, and Bigfoot really took up an interest

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to me because my father sat down
when day on this new platform called home

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Box Office and we watched the Legend
of Boggie Creek together. And I was

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about five or six years old when
I first saw it, and of course

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the opening maybe I was seven or
eight, you know, but I remember

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the opening scene showing a little boy
running my age and that, you know,

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that's the hook for me, you
know, being that age. Became

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a teen, got more concerned with
cars and girls than I did with Bigfoot.

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Long forgotten got into my professional career. I was an empty paramedic for

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a while, both a paid and
volunteer firefighter for a while, but in

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nineteen eighty nine I started my investigative
career and eventually I was trained as a

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forensic interviewer. So I would be
the guy they would call into so they

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thought somebody was stealing. I would
sit him down, use some psychology,

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use some methodology, and elicit a
confession, Adam. And a lot of

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times, when you know, I
was, you know, putting cuffs on

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them, they end up they end
up thanking me, you know. Strangely

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enough. But in nineteen ninety eight, I had a buddy of mine who

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was very big into the UFO topic. It was actually he's written a book

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as well, and he's like,
hey, listen, I just picked this

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book up called Monsters of the north
Woods and it's about bigfoot in the area,

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you know, in on our own
area, within like an hour hour

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and a half radius. So I
went out to the local bookstore and got

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to copy myself read it, and
I'm thinking to myself, you know,

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well, you know, I mean, I've been an investigator now going on

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nine ten years. I said,
I bet you then a lot of this

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is a bunch of bologney. And
so I started paying into the topic a

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little bit more. And then I
actually spoke with a couple of the police

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officers that were in that book,
and it took me probably about a good

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year year and a half of our
well there might be something to this,

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and that's how I got my start
into it. I started a little grassroots

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organization called the Adirondack Research Organization,
and on December thirty first, two thousand

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and five, or January first,
two thousand and six, whatever you want

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to call it, I launched Squatchtective
dot Com, which has been there since

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two thousand and six. And the
same year and in September September twenty fourth,

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two thousand and six, we started
one of the very first podcasts on

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they focused watch Detective Radio and that
has transformed in twenty nineteen to Squatch DTV.

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So that's that's the journey. I
have been to forty six of the

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fifty states, wow, investigating this
mystery. I've had some some close encounters.

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I've had a couple of legit sightings
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really makes it special. I'm trying
to think what else, but it's been,

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you know, a very real fun
ride, made a lot of great

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friends along the way. Of course
you make some enemies too, but but

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yeah, see Troy and Tennessee already
prime in and that's fine. Steve.

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You you talked about you just mentioned
it being a year or so in before

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you you kind of hit you that, yeah, there might be something to

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this. Do you remember what it
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I remember interviewing this gentleman. This
was a little bit later. I

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mean obviously when I talked to the
police officers, they were very convincing.

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Well, it really started putting me
in the upper percentile. Was I did

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a vocal report with a trackway in
Petersburg, New York, which is in

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Menzler County, and I completely cold
called the guy. He was, you

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know, a friend of mine,
his girlfriend's like uncle or cousin or something,

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older guy. You know. They
had something going on their property.

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And I went there and this guy
was probably about six foot two, former

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Marine two tours in Vietnam, a
truck driver, been living on that property

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for fifteen years. Was an avid
hunter, and something scared the living daylight

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Saturday. As I was interviewing him, I could see juggler vein distension.

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I could see hair raising on his
arm. I could see all the physical

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tell tale signs that I look as
an interrogator alling out. This guy is

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telling me the truth. And he
even showed me that, well, you

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know, I got this all set
now, and he had this big old

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powerful lantern pop job together that he's
keeping by his door in case something happens

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like that again. So that I
was like, Eh, people are seeing

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and hearing things. You know,
it's definitely something to this and that's what

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really yeah. Yeah, And you
also mentioned that what helped you along that

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way with some of the law enforcement
people that you talk to that are seeing

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something. And for me, in
my personal opinion, anytime you have a

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member of law enforcement that comes out
and says something like this that's willing to

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put their name and their badge on
the line, because if you're a police

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officer and you can speak to this
deep, your livelihood is your credibility,

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right, I mean, if you're
not a credible person, you can being

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a police officer. Absolutely. And
the funny thing is, at the time

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that this stuff was going on,
his brother who was a sergeant with the

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department, and a lot of the
you know, the actual well respected members

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of the community were all experiencing They
were getting glimpses of this large creature.

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They were seeing a distance, they
were finding tracks, they were there was

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even a report in a newspaper that
they said, you know, creatures spotted

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again in Whitehall, you know,
and then it says you know, although

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and this is the exact quote,
Albow, Whitehall Police, Washington County Sheriff's

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Department, New York Site police all
responded they could only see the creature from

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a distance. What I mean,
they all saw it. It's right there

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in right so you know there there
was something definitely going on there. And

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and talking to the one police officer
who had that experience during that flap,

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it was very public about it.
It took a lot of hits for it

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and took a lot of abuse for
it over the years. The second police

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officer saw his sighting about about ten
eight years later, and he had although

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he reported, he reported it anonymously, and he had a heart attack and

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he thought he was going to die. So that's when he became public because

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he didn't want but you know,
I had spoken to him when he was

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still anonymous, and because I again
I got to know the authors of Monsters

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of the Northwoods very well. If
that one became my mentor for a long

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time. So okay, excuse me
one second, I'll be back. And

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like I got to open the door
here real quick. Yeah, you're good,

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You're good back, all right.
Yeah, I mean I'll touch on

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that a little bit more while Steve's
gone. Just to have a police officer

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that I talked to Bron about this. You know, Brian was sixteen years

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in the Atlanta Police Department, and
I mean, just you put your name

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on the line, and I mean
some of the most credible reports come from

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law enforcement and military personnel. In
my opinion. Yeah, I mean,

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I see, go ahead, I
see. Ristol puts that I used to

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go to Kinderhook Lake right in the
middle of the flap there, and there

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was there was a flap in the
eighties called the Kinderhook Creature. And the

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funny thing is is I ran into
a very well known paranormal investigator who was

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a real good friend of mine,
and we did a lot of traveling together

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for a while, and we got
into a discussion once and he's like,

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you know, I saw this thing
when I was fishing one day and I

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was over by the you know,
the Kinderhook Creek and I was fishing,

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and I you know, I saw
this tall, upright hairy thing and it

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came out of the woods it saw
me fishing it. It just turned around

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right back and walk right back into
the woods, and it shook me.

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I picked up my stuff, I
left for the day, and he goes,

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you know, I was eighteen years
old when it happened. Yahda yeah,

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And I go and he didn't tell
me the dates. I go,

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did this happen in the eighties.
He's like, well, well, yeah,

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it did. Let me guess between
eighty four and eighty six. Well,

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it happened in eighty four. That
was the height of the Kinderhood Preacher

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flap. He knew nothing about it
because he wasn't a bigfoot guy. He

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said, well, lead, you
know that everybody, you know, all

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the sightings were bat right in that
time period. So it was just amazing

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when I saw that. I heard
that. It was like, as an

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investigator, you look for these correlations. And I'm not a scientist, you

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know, so I don't you know, experiments, you know, I look

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for investigative leads, you know,
And I see, you know, a

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sighting that happens that the person did
not know about this thing around there.

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It just it just makes that that
puzzle that it's another piece of the puzzle

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that fits and makes it possible.
Yeah, you mentioned some of your personal

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experiences or any of those would you
consider a class A siving? Both were

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okay, you want to talk.
I have two that were very classic twenty

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eleven in my research. One,
I had my team out and as it

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turned out, UH, we were
out doing UH. I had three teams

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out at a base camp team.
I had two operations team, and I

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was kind of circulating between all all
of them. And we were out for

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about three hours or so. It
was October mid October twenty eleven. Bring

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everybody back in. We kind of
debrief a little bit, start eating,

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and we're kind of you know,
of course we're you know, knowing me.

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I'm a you know, my roole
number one to any group I have

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us have fun. So we were
having a lot of fun that, you

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know, getting a little laughs.
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ready to go out for our next
run. And I said, all right,

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let me go get some batteries from
my headlamp. And I go out

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to my car get some batteries from
my pocket. And then I turn around

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and I said, I light a
cigarette up. I take my light and

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I shine it downhill. That's the
North side, which at the time was

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where a lot of the activity was
going on. Nothing. I turned around

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and I go up to the north
side and there is one standing next to

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the agility pole on the dirt road, basically watching our campfire in our camp.

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It's mid October. All the leaves
had dropped. Men and I put

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the light on a turned and looked
at me, and the eyes were reflecting.

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They were like a kind of an
orange type of color, not quite

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red and not yellow, somewhere in
between. And I could see the eyes

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blinking. After about forty seconds,
I mean, I just froze and I

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just shook the light a little bit. It turned and it walked into the

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woods. And of course I brought
my teams out. When one of my

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team I had at the time,
I had a former I should say a

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former Marine sniper was out there looking
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It stepped into the woods. And
the other thing is is that while

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they were coming out the base camp, I said, hey, I need

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Operations eighteen A out here now where
Opportunity Ops one out here now? And

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they're coming out, and then all
of a sudden, the base camp's reporting,

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Hey, we got a lot of
movementto the southwest of our camp right

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now, which is the direction of
where we had walked off. The second

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one was a year about a year
later, same aria. We had uh

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just I had a team. We
were shooting for the nat GEO special para

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Natural Sasquatch Planet episode, which I
think was rebranded in the United States as

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Monsters and Mysteries and salved Sasquatch Planet. And we had driven all day and

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you know, we told Mat Joe, listen, we really don't We're not

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going to do anything tonight, and
that Joe was like, that's fine.

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Can we just do a few interviews
during the day. And they turned around

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and they they left, and we
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Camp eight, and everybody started going
off. Now there was there's four of

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us in camp at the night.
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and the Hobbies which we who were
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and so Alssa went to bitterly went
to bed, myself and Wayne stayed up.

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The latest Jeff, who it was
raining horribly to that day. It

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was raining off frigging day, So
Jeff kept this pill on blanket and a

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jeep on the road. So he
walks out to the road where the cars

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were parked, grabs his pillo on
blanket, puts it into it, and

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goes to bed. Eventually, Wayne
and I stay up a little bit more

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and we go to bed. Stay
tuned for more paranormal odyssey. About an

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hour and a half later, nature
calls I gotta use a tree. So

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I zip my tent and as like, get out of my tent and I

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see a five and a half reddish
brown commented long hair take off like a

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bat at all. And my first
impression was that was like no, no,

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no, I couldn't have just saw
that, just gonna saw that.

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Used the tree of course, going
like this, and got back my tent.

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The next morning, I wasn't planning
on saying anything, but I get

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it woken up by Jeff who got
up early and was putting his pillow and

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blanket back in his jeep, and
something left a log behind his jeep.

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Left the log a log yep.
It was about maybe three and a half

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four feet long round. It was
a birch, and we were collecting a

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lot of birch that day, which
is very odd kind of almost makes you

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think that maybe that we were being
watched the whole time because we were collecting

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a lot of birch logs. Why
because birch will burn wet, because once

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that bark gets heated up on any
kind of kindling under it, it'll go

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up likes. So we were collecting
a lot of birchs because that the maple

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that had fallen or the oak that
had fallen that won't burn very well.

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That that's interesting. So you said
the IU admit when you first said log,

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I thought you meant like it took
a done. No. No,

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not the traditional lawn sausage. No. Yeah, funny man, that's crazy.

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That first one you saw, you
got a pretty good look at it,

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right, not as good as the
second one. It's not longer,

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but it was further away, so
I was lit and it was just at

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the edge of my leg. See
the outline of it didn't get much detail,

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but because the eyes were just really
bright as they were reflecting back,

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and it was probably at maybe one
hundred one hundred and twenty foot distance,

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so whereas the second one I saw
that was fifty feet if not less,

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and it just took off and when
I think it was snooping ray. It

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was just like getting a look see
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It was, only it wasn't as
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feet. And I remember because even
though it had been raining, its overcast,

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there was a full moon that night, so the whole all the clouds

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were lit up like a night light
almost, so it was quite brighter that

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night, whereas the year earlier,
I don't remember there being much moonlight out

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there. So, okay, now
something I'm always curious about. And I

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get fifty to fifty response on the
question do you were you at a point

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where you could tell detail of the
face, and if so, did it

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look more human or animal? A
lock? Well, I didn't really get

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a good look at either. Face
appressed me much. Is you know the

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one further away, Like I said, it was way further away. It

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was very dark, but the eyes
were just piercing, you know, you

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could see that reflection, and they
were high. We actually measured it was

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about eight foot off the ground maybe
I would say probably between seven eight and

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eight foot off the ground. The
second one, you know, I just

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saw it kind of a you know, by the time I saw it,

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I got a profile view because I
think it started to run as soon as

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I ends up at ten it was
to take off r It was already probably

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midflight. It wasn't like standing there
and then took off when I looked at

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it was when I got out.
I was taken off as I was getting

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out of the tent. But I
could make out in both instances the hair

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was very long. I know.
In the first one it did have a

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very I could see very clearly the
conical shaped head outline, very lack of

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any shoulders. And the the smaller
one, you know, it's just a

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play was just there. It was, you know, because of the profile,

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you really can't make out the details
of it face, you knows on

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other than the fact I can see
the I can see the legs going.

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Alright. So, Steve, we
all know what you're best known for,

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and that's calling out the bullshitters,
busting hoaxers. I want to ask who

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have you had, Which person or
individual have you had the most you had

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the most fun with as far as
debunking and calling them out. Actually,

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I got to say the latest one
I did. Well, I'm not the

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latest. I the uh, there's
general. My name is Steve Copperan,

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and he, uh, he decided
early last year to give me this picture

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and it made up the story.
Sounded really odd, he says, you

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know, I finally got a picture
of him and I gotta yeah. And

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he said he didn't realize it until
he was looking at the pictures on his

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camera. That's kind of weird,
especially looking at this picture. But in

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the picture I could see the video
like a video status bar, you know,

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like a progress bar. And I
said, you know, is this

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a screen cap? You know,
Automatically he got all like, oh,

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you know, if you can find
I dare you to find this on YouTube?

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I dare you to find this.
Well, I forgot about it.

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I forgot a challenge accepted, but
I forgot about it for a little while.

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And then I came up again and
I started because I was doing I

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was looking at the searching for Bigfoot
website and they have the picture on there.

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I'm like, wait a minute,
and I go back and like,

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you know what, we gotta find
this. So I put it out to

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my membership, you know, can
we find it? And actually my co

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host came up with it because I
was busy, you know, I transitioned

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them where I'm working. He was
working in amatals. I didn't get the

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shift I wanted because I was new
and now I have seniority and I got

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where I want. But but he
found it and it was off one of

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the hot Dogs documentaries on Bigfoot.
Oh yeah, so we we got that,

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and I busted him on it and
said, you know, challenge accepted.

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Here it is, you know,
basically, so it's a real got

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youa moment. So about six weeks, seven weeks goes by and he starts

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reaching out to me again. He
goes, oh, now he's trying to

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blame that that somehow the photo accidentally
went from his Google Chat to his gallery

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right, and he's trying to blame
his late co host of his podcast,

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Janell, And he was trying to
blame him for sending him that. So

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I said, well, could you
prove it? He is, well,

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my phone is broken, blah blah
blah, and he basically he sent me

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some doctored pictures up that wasn't even
from a phone. It was Smith's computer

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that he was just taking pictures off
of it with his with his camera.

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And I debunked those and called him
called them out for what those were and

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so that was that was a lot
of fun. Who was this person's dave?

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That was? His name was Stephen
Kauferin. He has a podcast.

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He's called the Gentle Giant because he's
like seven foot tall legitimately anything. I

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I don't even know the name of
his podcast, but he runs it in

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in some very very quiet channels.
Yeah. Nothing, you know, nothing

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like it's not on Spokyo or Spotify
or iHeartRadio or any of those. It's

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just sits there in some mundane you
know. If you want to see it,

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show us that, you know,
like live show, Live shows dot

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com or something silly like that.
Yeah, what can you tell us,

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Steve about this fella named Vault Keeper? Well, that's very interesting. I

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was approached by some folks about the
vault and I just did a very brief

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thing on him, because you know, obviously he got on one podcast and

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said, oh I just recorded this
the other day. It was clearly the

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Patterson Bell Tower audio, very clear
as day. And then I start looking

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at some other stuff and I could
go on, there's a whole litany of

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stuff and claims he made, and
I just what I did is I did

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a video on some of his most
wildest claims, like he was pulled out

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a boot camp when he was in
the Marines to join a special task force

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to haunt the dog Man. There
was another thing he said that, you

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know, I I belonged to to
two Indian nations. I belonged and one

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of them, he said, was
the Four Corners Nation. And I was

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like, wait a minute, I've
spent a couple of months on the Four

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Corners Nation. I have a very
good friend, one of the elders of

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the to day and uh, you
know, good old Leonard, Chief Leonard

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Dan and number one, there is
no four Corners nation. In fact,

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the Navajo and Newts were at war
with each other for quite some time.

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And the other ones are the Hopie
and I forget the other ones right off

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the top of my head, but
they didn't have any confetacy nation. And

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then the other thing is is that
you don't ever say I belong to the

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nation. The tribe belongs to the
nation. You belong to a tribe.

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So what he said there was so
inaccurate. And then there was this whole

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stolen valor thing too that you know, you know, they that I had

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one of the fans there actually helped
in contacted Don Shipley and they ended up

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getting records in the department in Navy, which obviously is who the Marine Corps

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falls under. Says we've never had
this guy as you know, a marine.

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So yeah, and he claimed to
be what Chris Kyle that's name.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
he made you know, made out that

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you know, well, I respect
you know, and that was the other

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thing that hold that you know.
I although I've never been in the military,

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I've read a lot my my my
hero of all time was the late

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Dick Martenko, who was the founder
of Seal Team six. And uh,

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you know, I've read a lot
of his writings. I've read Chris,

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I've read Chris Cryle's book, I've
read a number of you know, No

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Easy Day, I've read a bunch
of them. And there is no way

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that the Navy seals will or even
a sniper will partner with a non seal

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observer. And they work as a
unit, they work as a team,

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they trained together. They're not going
to say, oh, well today you're

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going to take this guy and that's
going to be your partner for they doesn't

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work that way. Yeah, he
claimed to be like I can't think of

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the word like contract, government,
contractor, the military contractors and shit.

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And I put the clip on there
where he can't even remember. He was

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asked, well, which contractor,
and somebody said Blackwater. Oh yeah,

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blackwater. Oh god. Yeah,
he's not disappeared, right because I can't.

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I went to his channel and there's
I got like seven videos on there

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and it's all members only. Ship. Yeah, that's because he's been called

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out enough times. He was asking. He asked for all kinds of money.

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His his followers send him money for
to do a damn documentary or some

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shit that never got produced. Well, I know there was that trell cam

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project that he was producing and he
was asking money for trail cameras. Apparently

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this is what I've heard in that
that never that never came about either.

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Yeah, I mean it's you know, there was another guy years ago.

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Uh. His name was Bob Garrett
uh and Big Wicket Tours, and he

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was doing a lot of extra memory
in Texas and the Big Viket area and

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he was being heavily promoted on the
Sasquatch Chronicles. And Garrett's operation got shut

409
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
down by the FEDS because obviously you
can't take people on a federalization and charge

410
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:28,400
them money for tours violates the loss. They got shut down, they actually

411
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:36,079
got arrested, and as as it
turned out, people had paid him money

412
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:39,359
for this expedition, he never returned
to dime. Yeah, I heard that.

413
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,759
I remember that was back when I
used to listen to Sasquatch Chronicles when

414
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:50,400
I first got it, and Neil
was on the right to about the torn

415
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,359
up camp story, and there was
an audio two that we had We had

416
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,799
called him out and I had actually
debunked that audio. Well, somebody else

417
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,799
had the I had to wear with
all the fun the clip. So I

418
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,359
put him together and I matched them
together, lined him up to the exact

419
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,960
same clip. Yeah, the whole
bunch of them went on Sasquats Chronicles,

420
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:13,440
if I remember, and talked to
West about being arrested, like you said,

421
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,000
But they were obviously claiming they were
being arrested because they had big foot

422
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,480
knowledge, or they were getting too
close or or some bullshit like that.

423
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,960
There was reports of them being shot
at or something, and it was because

424
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,319
they were hold they were taking money
from people to hold these investigations on property

425
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:37,039
that they weren't supposed to be on. And one of the guys did that.

426
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,200
You know, Garrett basically used to
help him. When was that moment

427
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,720
show? And moment show was like, No, we never got arrested because

428
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,359
of big Bigfoot and hunts. We
got arrested because Garrett was supposed to have

429
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,599
this taken care of and he didn't. Yeah, they came come on there

430
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,640
saying, we not collecting money for
this. You know, the money is

431
00:33:54,759 --> 00:34:00,960
for the food and for this and
for study and all that bullsh you were

432
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:05,160
charging. I don't know how much. They don't telling how much they charged.

433
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,519
Do you know anything about that,
Steve, like a dollar figure?

434
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:13,880
They were charging five hundred dollars ahead
the one couple, the one couple I

435
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,760
help, I helped, They basically
took their entire life savings there one thousand

436
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,760
dollars. They were a poor little
Missouri couple and the wife bought it for

437
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:29,079
the husband as a present and they
paid him a thousand dollars and tried and

438
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,280
tried and tried and tried, And
I seen the PayPal receipts, I've seen

439
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,719
the text messages. Bob just keeps
passing it off. Well, you got

440
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,280
to ask my daughter Sandy, or
you got to ask this person. You

441
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,000
got to ask that person. But
the money was sent to him and PayPal

442
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:50,239
was very clear about that. And
of course what ends up happening. They

443
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,639
never get their money back. They're
out a thousand bucks throughout their life savings,

444
00:34:52,880 --> 00:35:00,280
no experience. Yeah, i'd heard
that Bob Garrett talk about had some

445
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,480
whoppers, dude, and let me
let me explain something to you about the

446
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,360
Sasquatch chronicles. As he Ristal said, I felt bad about Sasquatch Chronicles.

447
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,519
Wes knew. I told Wes I
was on the phone West. I even

448
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:22,599
let let Wes listen and showed him
the audio, and his response was,

449
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,000
well, I don't see it.
I don't see the resemblance what And then

450
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,559
he continued to have Garrett on his
show after that, after he knew people

451
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:37,559
were getting ripped off. So I
don't buy I don't buy it for a

452
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:45,519
fact, because you know why Bob
Garrett brought in clicks. That's why I

453
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:51,519
remember Bob coming on there and talking
about being up in the wilderness one year

454
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:57,559
or something and catching the flu or
some shit and being almost near death and

455
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:05,079
being carried out by damn sasquatch.
Yeah, I mean you would think he

456
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,360
would have. And then there's the
whole He was loan some equipments by this

457
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,199
guy named Max, and you know, he loaned them four fleer units.

458
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,920
He got three of them back and
they were completely destroyed, you know,

459
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,800
and the fourth win he never got
back. Yeah, I mean there's a

460
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,280
lot, a lot of shade at
this guy. And yeah, you know,

461
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,079
I I dare say that. You
know, one of the big things

462
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,360
and having edge up is that when
you look at citing reports and stuff like

463
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,199
that, people make certain claims and
you wonder why. You know, you

464
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480
get this video and there's no claims
on it. That's automatically to me in

465
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:51,360
the garbage file. But you have
these people that make some really wild claims.

466
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,639
And you know, I hate to
say it, but you have Wes's

467
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,639
story saying, oh, we we
were surrounded by sasquatch and we could see

468
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:01,480
them in the moonlight. And you
look at the date of the event and

469
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,199
there's a new moon, there's no
moon out there. How can you see

470
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,199
him in the moonlight. So it's
those little facts that really can make or

471
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,880
break an investigation. And that's what's
talking about with his personal experience or the

472
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,719
one he went round to Texas to
do now the one when he was with

473
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,000
Woody. Oh hey, the main
one that got him right, right right.

474
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,400
And then we find out there was
no you know, the date of

475
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,599
the event. There was no moon. It was a new moon. So

476
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440
you look at little facts like that
and it makes a big difference. That's

477
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,400
why when the first thing I do
in any any any type of sighting is

478
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,360
I pull the weather data, even
on our own stuff. You know,

479
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:44,119
we we had this audio we captured
last September in my research area one which

480
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,320
is where I had my sightings,
and we you know, there's the weather

481
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,880
data, here's the phase of the
moon phases, and that we don't want

482
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,960
to get things wrong, you know, you know, I you know the

483
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:58,440
era we're in. It's very would
it. I can't tell you if there's

484
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,239
a full moon, you know,
and on a mountain so or in a

485
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,440
series of mountain ranges. So it's
like I can't tell with the moon phases

486
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,199
unless happens to be a certain time. And frankly, I don't have a

487
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,920
journal to write it down, and
I don't really pay attention to that.

488
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:17,840
So yeah, yeah, I'm there. Even back when I was a big

489
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,760
fan of the show I had a
hard time believing with the story. Yeah,

490
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:28,639
and then you hear a lot of
people looking into it and it just

491
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:36,360
kind of kind of validates it.
Who else, is there anybody else need

492
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:43,199
that sticks out to you that that
just like borderline ridiculous? Well, I

493
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,440
mean we've been tolerating codd standing and
is you know, muppet Barrage and puppet

494
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,159
Brage, all these little face shots
over the years. That's one. You

495
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,760
have the mountain of fountains of misinformation
over at searching for bigfoot dot com,

496
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,519
where I looked at their homepage.
I'm like, that's Ai, that's Ai,

497
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:05,360
that's her, and there's the coffer
On photo. So you see all

498
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
this stuff. I mean that one, I mean, I'm like that one

499
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,360
I've never seen. So three out
of the four that are on their front

500
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,039
page is Bigfoot evidence have already been
debunked. And then you have the clickbait

501
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:21,280
artists, you have your MVTV,
you have now you have this channel called

502
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:27,880
the Sasquatch Mafia that's just taking people's
stuff and reposting it. They're not even

503
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:32,440
you know. And then you have
of course, you know Rocky Mountain Sasquats

504
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,960
that'll take any anything and try to
claim it the Sasquatch they've become. Years

505
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,239
ago, ten years ago, twelve
years ago, we had something called Facebook,

506
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,440
fine bigfoot before YouTube, and these
guys would take all these photos and

507
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:50,400
videos and try to make them appear
to be real and why they're real,

508
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,360
and some of them like, hey, you know what, I've already talked

509
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,199
to the people who shot that and
they admitted it was a hoax. You

510
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,199
know, stuff like that. That
was I remember that was the interstate hoax

511
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:12,079
Interstate Wa wsconsin. Stay tuned for
more Paranormal Odyssey. But now now you

512
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,440
see these things are posting things that
have already been debunked. Don't care.

513
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,440
It's all about cliques, and you
know, it's it's very I know,

514
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,239
Brian did a great study on that, and that's why people do things like

515
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,679
that, because they get those cliques
instead of having an honest program. Now,

516
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:31,679
why do you think Brian caught so
much shit? I don't know.

517
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:42,280
I really don't know. Yeah,
surprising to me, you know, and

518
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,280
I get it. If you're not
explaining yourself why you're doing those things,

519
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,639
sometimes people say what the hell is
going on here? And believe it or

520
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,519
not, I ran a very similar
thing, but I ran it with YouTube

521
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:59,440
shorts, so that was that was
the difference on that one. Yeah,

522
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,920
okay, I and I did something. In fact, you know, you

523
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,880
look in my Mike channel. I
have a little playlist called is This Bigfoot?

524
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:15,599
And that was my experiment. So
now you mentioned Facebook finding Bigfoot,

525
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:20,360
they are no longer around. They
were pretty much banned, right, No,

526
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,199
no, they they they dipped out
because they supported Rick Dyer in the

527
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:32,079
twenty twelve hoax. And word out
on the street too was they did purchase

528
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:39,440
the rifle from him too, for
a five figures they purchased the Yeah,

529
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,519
they he claimed to shoot one,
they shoot the body and they bought that,

530
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,960
you know, from him, And
I kept warning them, guys,

531
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,280
you know those guy's a hoaxer.
I you know, I busted him in

532
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,960
two thousand and eight big time and
landed me on Fox News. Now what

533
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,440
happened there is that where they claimed
up on the body. That was the

534
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,559
Georgia Bigfoot body hoax two thousand and
eight, where Biscardi came in and started

535
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:14,159
promoting it worldwide and I basically forced
myself invite into the scene and within twenty

536
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:19,760
four hours there I had managed,
you know, at the behest of actually

537
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,639
Biscardi's son, to prove that it
was indeed a suit that was frozen in

538
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:30,199
the ice. Did you see it
firsthandsh oh, I touched it? Yeah,

539
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,239
Oh my god, I didn't.
I'm going to pull I told the

540
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:38,400
foot out going to suit. Who
did they think? They were fucking bulling?

541
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,320
Well they weren't. The whole goal
of that was the two thousand and

542
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,239
eight hoax, was for Biscardi to
come in and have some people film it.

543
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,480
And you remember, back in the
early two thousands was the alien autopsy

544
00:42:54,679 --> 00:43:00,280
hoax. It was aired on Fox
News, and I remember him saying to

545
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,639
me, well, I got these
guys coming from Fix. You know from

546
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,239
Fox they did the Lien autopsy video. They're coming out to film the body

547
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,679
of the Bigfoot. Well, the
whole idea was to have all of the

548
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,320
people there to sign an MDA to
not talk about body, have them film

549
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,119
it and put out the movie and
at of me of a bigfoot body instead.

550
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:24,400
Because I refuse to do that.
I refuse to do that. I

551
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,480
told him to hope not covering a
hoax up with another hoax, Sorry,

552
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:34,559
buddy. Yeah. Uh, And
you know and he even tried to you

553
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,199
know, it was like, oh, you know, he goes, if

554
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,000
we all stick down strip to this
thing, there's money to be made on

555
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,360
this. There, we all stick
together on this so which there's money to

556
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,079
be We had a good story here, there's money to be made. And

557
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:51,239
I was like, nope, sorry, it ain't happening. And yeah,

558
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,480
so they had to come up with
the fallback story of well, you know,

559
00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:00,280
we got ripped off, and you
know, I basically put a wedge

560
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,400
in between everybody there the collusion.
You know, they started and Biscardi claim,

561
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,639
oh, I'm going to sue Diarone
Winton. He never did, of

562
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,360
course not. Yeah, and was
Diaron went and paid fifty thousand cash.

563
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,079
YEP. I have a copy of
the bank statement and my files there.

564
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,519
Discardi paid him. No, actually, one of his investors by the name

565
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:27,679
of Bill Lett paid him. I
have the entire eighty nine page police report

566
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,400
that was made by bill that was
initiated by Bill Lett. But as it

567
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:36,960
turned out, bill Lett had loaned
the money to Biscardi. Basically that was

568
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:44,000
the agreement, and Discardi would pay
him back in ninety days and uh so

569
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,960
bill Lett couldn't actually charge them with
anything, and Biscardi really didn't want anything

570
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,719
to do with it. He didn't
give a statement to the police, yet

571
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,760
he was the one who spent the
most time with him. So yeah,

572
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,920
there's definitely a collusion there going on. To people wonder why we can't be

573
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:05,639
taken serious, well, I don't
think it's a better way. I think

574
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,119
that if people look at some of
us like you know, and I agree,

575
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,400
you know what Scott, that you
guys do catch much great when you

576
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,000
tell the truth and expose fake people. I agree. You know. I've

577
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,719
been at the forefront of that thing
now since two thousands, since two thousand

578
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,880
and six. You don't know how
many times I've been My wife has been

579
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,800
threatened, my uh I had somebody
claim they're gonna come to my house and

580
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,320
might go ahead, you'll meet my
my my friend, my two friends,

581
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:43,119
mister Smith and mister Wesson. Uh. I also have a background of martial

582
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,480
arts too, so I'm not really
worried about it. Yeah, obviously I

583
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:52,880
had to deal with some pretty shady
people in my day. Yeah, and

584
00:45:53,199 --> 00:46:00,880
uh, you know, I've had
my life when people will say, oh,

585
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,639
you're jealous, which is a joke. But have I got to be

586
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,440
jealous on. You know, it's
kind of funny because now they say that

587
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,119
on YouTube and I fire right back
out of somebody leaves a snarky comment,

588
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,920
Oh you're just jealous? Oh really, what have I got to be jealous

589
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:19,079
on? I've been on eighteen programs
since two thousand and eight on network television,

590
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,679
and currently I'm slated to be on
four episodes of The Proof Is out

591
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,840
There next for this coming season.
So I'm not really jealous of anybody.

592
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,400
You're just jealous, Dave. You're
trying to make a name for yourself.

593
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,800
I've written three books, I get
invited to speak at conferences. What have

594
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:46,039
I got to be jealous about?
Always? That seems to be the go

595
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:52,519
to response for anybody that is threatening
to others. And so what I tell

596
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:57,599
him is, instead of leveling his
accusations, give me the receipts where this

597
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,880
is real. Give me a receipt
to prove I'm wrong, and they never

598
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:07,440
can. And I remember I started
shutting down tod standings people by putting the

599
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
picture of that very first one he
put up there, the one that looked

600
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,559
like it has the fuzzy face the
Muppet, And I say, you know,

601
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,119
what. I'll answer that question after
you can. If you answered this

602
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,360
question, I'll answer your question,
and I put up that picture is this

603
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:27,159
a big foot? And they will
either repeat the same question. No,

604
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,639
I'm not answering in to answer that
question. I go your lack of communication

605
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,480
there is telling me you don't want
to answer that question. Yep, and

606
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,719
they shut them right down. Okay, well I'll answer that question. Answer

607
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,480
me this question first, is this
a big foot? And if you can't

608
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:52,119
answer that, you better start looking
inside? Yeah, now, Steve,

609
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:53,599
has there ever been and all the
times you've been doing this, has there

610
00:47:53,639 --> 00:48:00,920
ever been an instance where you went
into something thinking, Okay, this is

611
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:06,960
clearly bullshit, But the more you
looked and looked, you're maybe there's something

612
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:13,639
to this. Oh yeah, oh
yeah. I mean many many moons ago

613
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,599
two thousand. I want to say
it was the end of two thousand and

614
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:22,280
three. I had I had gotten
a report from a UH and I you

615
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,800
know, I was a BFRO investigator
at this time. I'm technically a BFRO

616
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,679
investigator. Now do I do?
I do? My Most of my stuff

617
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,559
I do is independent anyway, and
they don't really bother at me too much.

618
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,920
I do what I need to do. But in two thousand and three,

619
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,800
I had seen this report of a
guy who claimed had a video something

620
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,159
in a tree at a music festival, and am I going, oh,

621
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,039
this is probably boll and. Uh
So I talked to the guy who was

622
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,519
handling it at first, and I
asked him, I go, you know,

623
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:58,039
well, the guy sounds kind of
hokey. Well, what do you

624
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:00,280
mean sounds kind of hokeey? Well, he just kind of talks funny.

625
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Go for God's sakes, he's from
New Jersey, of course he talks funny.

626
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,239
I'm for New Jersey. I was, I was born there. So

627
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,400
I turn around and and I go, did you ever see the video tape?

628
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,039
Because no, I never. I
never asked, Well, you can't

629
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:16,159
judge something by talking to a guy
who's claiming he's got a video. Get

630
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:20,920
the video. And then so I
talked to the guy in about six weeks

631
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,280
later, I get the video,
so they had to go make a copy.

632
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,760
I get the video and I'm like, I had a giant screen TV

633
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,199
at the time. I put it
in hit play and I'm going, oh,

634
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:42,719
this is this ought to be good. And the first thing I see

635
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,880
is this large dark figure in the
background walking as this little one jumps off.

636
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,960
It climbs up into a tree,
hand over hand into the tree,

637
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,719
swings once, goes into tree,
drops down. I spent over four hundred

638
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,079
hours looking at that video, breaking
it down by frame by frame by frame,

639
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:07,679
and to this day, I mean
I literally when I do an investigation,

640
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,320
it's not like I get a video
and like and this, unfortunately is

641
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,679
the the the bane of a lot
of YouTube researchers. They get something in

642
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,159
a day later they got to post
it. If you get good evidence before

643
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,119
you post that, some bitch,
you better go back. Get all your

644
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,360
facts straight, You get all your
stuff ducks in a row, do your

645
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,679
research, try to debunk it,
go through the motions, then put it

646
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,440
out there, because if not,
you're going to catch crap and you're not

647
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,599
giving people the proper receipts. So
that's what I did with this. I

648
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,599
did frame by frame. The first
thing I did was I converted to DVD,

649
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,920
and then I was able to take
that because this is this is two

650
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,800
thousand and three, folks. Then
I took the DVD and I converted it

651
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,760
to video files for the computer work, and I work with that and I

652
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,280
made tons of phone calls and laboratories
in the area, if they had any

653
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,360
animals, if they had any monkey, any escapes. I checked for any

654
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:09,360
zoo or carnivals or anything like that, and everything was was really clear.

655
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,039
But one break, one real big
part was too. I talked to the

656
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,960
landowner any confront with the guy said, now, we didn't allow any pets

657
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,119
at all on the land. You
know, we had a guy with a

658
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,920
parrot come in and we turned the
parrot away because we didn't we didn't have

659
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000
insurance rated for that. If somebody
got bet by an animal, animal would

660
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:31,000
be on us. You know,
our policies cover that. So that made

661
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:37,039
a lot of sense. And the
other thing I know is Number one,

662
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,199
it's illegal in New York to own
it, to possess a primate. You

663
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,599
have to be a license zoo keeper
to do that. There's some states where

664
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:51,239
Florida, where you just need to
get a permit, but now in New

665
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360
York you Nope, it's verboting unless
you're a license zoo keeper. Sorry,

666
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,280
it ain't gonna happen. You're not
gonna be walking around with a you know

667
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,760
you can yet somebody like a a
bitch of habitator or a rehabber that that'll

668
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,280
have one. You can do that, but there are licensed keepers. So

669
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,079
all of this stuff came up nothing. And then this is what was known

670
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:16,280
as the Pridging video aka the New
York Baby video, and that's being shown.

671
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,119
So that was one where I thought, oh, this is going to

672
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,599
turn out to be a bunch of
hooey, and wow, it really because

673
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:24,599
you know, when I talked to
Doug, you know, he never saw

674
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:29,679
the big one in the background.
You know, he only saw the one

675
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,920
in the tree. I was going
to say, what's that big, dark

676
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,719
uniform color subject in the back that's
walking from right to left, And then

677
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,440
after it jumps off and goes in
a tree, it turns around and goes

678
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:45,199
back. Now somebody says, well
maybe and maybe they just broke the lawn.

679
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:46,880
They brought their own monkey, And
they're well, okay, and they

680
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,800
snuck a monkey in. So now
we're breaking the law. We're sneaking one

681
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,840
into a place where you can't bring
it. And of all the things,

682
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,280
if you have a monkey, are
you just going to let it go up

683
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,039
in a tree at quarter to nine
whatever time at dusk when it's starting to

684
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:04,079
get dark. You're just gonna let
it up in a tree and hang out

685
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:07,599
there. You'll never get it back
down. Yeah, right, So it

686
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:14,320
made no sense at all. Wow, So it was just one of one

687
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,239
of those one of those things.
But and yeah, and research facilities don't

688
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,639
have large primates, agreed. But
we didn't want to take any chances that

689
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,400
perhaps maybe this was a small primate
too. You know, it's like you

690
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,400
got to check the you gotta go
down the checklist regardless of you know,

691
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:34,519
even if it's far stretched that well, they may not have large primates.

692
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,199
They may have like capuchins or something, or a reciss monkey or something,

693
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,800
but nope, we got to go
over and check that box. Make sure

694
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,519
that box is checked. And then
I released the investigation. You know,

695
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,039
months later, it did the same
thing with the Roun Treelcampo. Do I

696
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:50,119
get it? And it wasn't for
five months that we didn't really until we

697
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,039
really released it to the general public. But that's how an investigation should work.

698
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,800
I work as a professional investigator.
That's how we run any professional investigation.

699
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:05,559
Yeah, and that was called again
the New York Baby New York Baby

700
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:09,400
video aka the Pridgeon video. There's
pretty it's somewhere on my channel too.

701
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,599
You can find one of those on
my channel as well. Okay, we're

702
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:20,360
on the website that Steve. It's
okay, we're right here at an hour.

703
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,639
We're gonna go ahead and jump to
these questions. We've got to say

704
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:28,840
four. All right, person,
we're gonna ask Troy asks. Let me

705
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,800
pop it up here. What do
you look for other than the usual tracks

706
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,360
Harris scat when investigating a siding.
When I investigate sightings, I also look

707
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,159
at the history of the area,
uh, the ecology of the area,

708
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,679
the uh you know, topo of
the area, you know, satellite maps,

709
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,519
stuff like that, especially with getting
history. Has there been an area,

710
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,159
you know, profesionally, what kind
of sightings are in that area?

711
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,719
Are they? You know, aggressive
sights of the roadside crossings? Are they

712
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:07,440
you know as somebody walking down a
treel and see when it just turned around?

713
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:12,519
You know? Behavior? To me
is Canta Mountain in any kind of

714
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,960
siding report. So that's I look
at a lot of that. But hair

715
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:22,800
scat tracks any really obtuse, like
any tracker would, You're gonna be looking

716
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,840
for tree breaks at the five foot
nine to six foot level or something about

717
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,119
seven foot tall is going to be
making its way through the brush, and

718
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,840
I have track one off a siding
report for about seventy five feet down to

719
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,760
a roadway where I lost it.
Wow. Okay, next one is from

720
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:45,920
slow motion. I think this is
an excellent question. Do you think looking

721
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:52,639
for strangeness draws it to you?
Now? I think not looking for strangers.

722
00:55:53,039 --> 00:56:00,360
I am quite sure if he's talking
about the creature itself or anything,

723
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,079
big foot, ghosts, anything,
are going out looking for it. Do

724
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,679
you think that kind of draws weird
stuff to you? No, that's all

725
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,559
I think. If you look,
I mean, if you look for it,

726
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,519
you you know, if you look
for it hard enough and they are

727
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:20,400
open minded and keep you and learn
about your craft, you'll you'll find it.

728
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,199
Yeah, okay, good answer.
Another one from Troy here, do

729
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,960
you believe it is possible that a
cryptid of any type could and or does

730
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,760
reside in the l B L So
I would say this a I'm not really

731
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,800
convention of the dog man, but
and I know I take some heat for

732
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,000
that. I'm not into the dog
man. So my expertise is strictly it

733
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:50,280
is strictly into the you know,
to bigfoot sasquatch. Is it possible of

734
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,480
a crypt any type does or reside
in the lb L. I don't know

735
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,960
about necessarily residing year on a year
round basis. It could be a seasonal

736
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:04,079
basis. But very very interesting stats
that came out last night and this morning

737
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:08,760
that we worked on. But you
know, it's very interesting that in LBL

738
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,360
you also have a bear population,
you have a bobcat population. They even

739
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,920
have forms if you see a feral
hog on the property. So if you

740
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:28,119
can have bear and bobcat and deer
and and obviously an occasional feral hog,

741
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,119
you know, and you know white
and whine, not a big foot,

742
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:38,360
you know exactly. This whole topic
has just been chapping my ass for a

743
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:44,920
while now. I think it's ridiculous
to assume that something like that can't live

744
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:49,119
in an area like this, But
everyone knows my opinion on it, so

745
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:53,360
well, I'll show well it was
a very interesting stat and somebody mentioned about,

746
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,639
wow, let's get to the questions. I'll we'll get to that later.

747
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,079
This is from Facebook user I think
it was doctor John barn talk.

748
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:08,159
When you were talking about the the
eyes, the reflection or the eye seine,

749
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:13,599
would you say it was reflection or
glowing. It would be indicative to

750
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:17,239
me of a topedo lesstum, so
it would be a reflection. It'd be,

751
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,559
uh, basically the same. It
would be like eyeshine you get out

752
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:28,719
of the toplesstum. Okay, I
thought you sneezed. I didn't know that.

753
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:36,920
Well. Topeda lesstim is the mechanism
in the back of certain animals eyes

754
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,760
that will give them eyes shine,
like a cat or a deer or even

755
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:46,920
you know, an alligator, just
to name a few raccoons. A lot

756
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:54,119
of your nocturnal animals have them.
Robin per sede. I hope I'm pronouncing

757
00:58:54,199 --> 00:59:00,400
that right. How hard is it
debunking a is it getting more differ difficult

758
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,880
or can you see right away?
I can see it right away. Lately

759
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,920
A lot of a lot of the
ones have this orange kind of tint to

760
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,800
them, like they're trying to show
an old time photo almost, so they're

761
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,199
kind of easy to spot. That
was cartoonish too, a little bit.

762
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,320
Yeah, And you got to look
for the other things like sometimes if you

763
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,599
look very closely, a hand may
have six fingers where foot may have six

764
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:29,559
photoes. I know a lot of
the AI sketches I do for my shows

765
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,639
every once in a while. Ago
one's got six toes, but nobody really

766
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:40,440
notices that I do. Yeah,
this one comes from Bristol, Steve,

767
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:46,559
are you just outside of Albany?
My mother god Rest lived just outside Margaret

768
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:53,239
Margaretville. Margaret Margaretville, there was
activity around her, even though they blamed

769
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:58,920
it on bears at the time.
That's right. Uh, Margaretville is just

770
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:04,280
west of the Catskill in Delaware County. I do. I reside about thirty

771
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,800
five forty miles north of Albany.
I live maybe about five miles east of

772
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,199
Saratoga, New York. I live
at Walma Hudson River in Washington County,

773
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:16,880
which is also the home to Whitehall, New York, the big capital of

774
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,119
New York. I'm on the southern
end of the county. Whitehalls on the

775
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:24,760
northern end of the county, but
it still makes it only a thirty minute

776
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:30,079
drive for me, which is nice. But in the eighteen hundreds, the

777
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,320
late eighteen hundreds, there was a
report out of Margaretville, New York,

778
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,559
where apparently a bigfoots had did something
to a horse that was attached to a

779
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:43,800
carriage. And that's as much as
I know about it. Off the top

780
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,400
of my head without really reviewing it. But that was in Delaware County,

781
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:51,039
New York, Markville, YEP.
Now that's interesting. I don't know,

782
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,880
Steve, if you've heard me,
I've talked about it on a few different

783
01:00:54,719 --> 01:01:00,639
shows now and on it our shows
that I think big Butt has a some

784
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:07,639
kind of fascination with horses. It
could be you ask if you ask can

785
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,239
Clement, they have a fascination with
cows. But that's a whole nother story.

786
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:21,000
Okay, all right, last question
comes from Troy. You're going to

787
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:23,000
be at the Smokey Mountain Conference this
year, Steve? Unfortunately, No.

788
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,840
I actually I've kind of laid back
a little bit on the shows, and

789
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,840
sir, I think I'm only doing
four. I'm doing the Rochester Paranormal Festival

790
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:43,760
in June. I have another one. I have the Pennsylvania the Pennsylvania Bigfoot

791
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:52,519
Camping Adventure that's gonna be in Faette
County in Pennsylvania back in September. Oh,

792
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:55,079
how can I forget? In August, I'll be at the Hocking Hills

793
01:01:55,119 --> 01:02:00,599
Bigfoot Festival in Logan, Ohio.
Last year they had forty one thousand people

794
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:07,800
attend. It's mad, It's two
days of bigfoot and madness. I mean

795
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,119
I actually saw a bigfoot on a
Harley. No, why bigfoot on Harley.

796
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,039
Great time there. So if you're
anybody out there by Logan, stop

797
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:20,159
by. It's a great time.
It's a free event to walk around,

798
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:22,400
you know, and you only pay
to go you know, you only pay

799
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,480
to go in and see the speakers. But it's a free event. Five

800
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,559
four blocks one way and then a
block on either side, so you get

801
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:37,159
five blocks of vendors and bigfoot exhibits
and food vendors and entertainment. It's just

802
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:43,440
a great, great time. And
then finally I always wrap up with the

803
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,360
Sasquatch, the White Hall Sasquatch Calling
Festival right here in Washington County, New

804
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,800
York. It's become a big event
every year. Last year I think we

805
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,440
broke two thousand people at the event. And it's basically a ten to six

806
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,320
ten to six pm event, so
you have two thousand people wander through this

807
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:07,880
white All Town Park. Is just
an awesome thing. When is that every

808
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,880
year? Stee That is usually the
last Saturday of September. I'd love to

809
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,440
go to that one year. Yeah, come on up at September. I

810
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:20,199
think I want to say twenty ninth
this year. It's the last Saturday in

811
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,079
September this year. Yeah, I
mean that's like the Bigfoot capital of the

812
01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:30,119
Northeast, right right. And like
I say, for folks that I know,

813
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,960
usually at the end of that we
all go up to the research area

814
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,000
and do a little mini exhibition for
the evening, and that's when we caught

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the audio this year. So and
Alex Petakov was with me, as everybody

816
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:49,519
knows Alex from Small Town Monsters.
And then we had Mike Lucy from Karkkatscho

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Appellation Research Collective. He was up
there with us. Had a few of

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01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:57,800
my members from my channel there.
I invited them, if you're coming up,

819
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,199
come on up with us, and
uh, you know ed Jen and

820
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,559
finding a track Way. They're both
from Ohio. They were up with us

821
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:10,599
and all in not to experience that
that hoot call that was like, I

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01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:15,920
don't know where m hm. The
last one we had starred was not a

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01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:20,400
question, but a big, big
thank you to Ristol. He gifted five

824
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,800
uh memberships tonight, good job,
Ris. Oh yeah, we didn't uh

825
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,480
we didn't do our toast, did
we? Damn? I forgot. Oh

826
01:04:29,559 --> 01:04:39,960
let's do our toast now then ben
Jin two fingers up. Good stuff.

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01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:44,559
See tell everybody where they can find
you, buddy, Well, my website

828
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:48,679
squatch Detective dot com. But if
you go to squatchdtv dot com and goes

829
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,880
right to our YouTube channel Sports YouTube
dot com forward Slash. At squatchd tv,

830
01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:57,880
we run two shows a week.
We're on let Me put News on

831
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:02,719
Friday nights nine pm Eastern and Sunday
nights we do squats d TV Live for

832
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,840
two hours where we nine pm Eastern
where we usually have a guest. This

833
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:12,159
week we have on doctor Jeff Meldrum. Oh really awesome, very gool.

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That's tomorrow night, right, that's
tomorrow night. Yep, very cool,

835
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,360
veryfying. All right, Steve Man, I can't thank you enough for taking

836
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,840
the time to come and hang out
to not good stuff brother in anytime.

837
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And uh, you know, for
those who think that it's a shame,

838
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,719
I'm mainly known as being thought as
a bunker because uh you know, I

839
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,360
really am ab a behavior guy.
When it comes I take a lot of

840
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,119
primate behavior and look at that.
But you'll see that on the channel,

841
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:44,719
you'll see that on the website.
But I want to thank you guys for

842
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,360
having me on. It's my honor
to be here. Thank yeah, it's

843
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,280
my pleasure, buddy, Thank you
very very much. I hope you enjoy

844
01:05:51,320 --> 01:06:00,480
the rest of your evening. Certainly
will alight. They say, you don't

845
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:09,639
gotta go home, but you can't
stay. No, I don't want to

846
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:39,480
be alone. We're loping, trying
to just try that time everything. Call

847
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:44,960
me, ride back, cry back, joy from me, and Joy stay

848
01:06:45,320 --> 01:07:20,679
right there. Call it right away, ye, says, says Side,

849
01:07:23,119 --> 01:08:00,119
and says James. Also games and
stays, and Gas stays and games and he