WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:05.519 You're listening to Wake Up Call with Jennifer Jones Lee on demand from K five 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:12.759 a M. Six forty. Good morning everyone, this is your wake up 3 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:19.039 Call for Wednesday, May seventeenth. I am in for Jennifer Jones Lee all 4 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.600 this week. My name is Jason Middleton. Today is Mushroom Hunting Day. 5 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:29.640 If you celebrate, you can celebrate in a different way in Oregon and Colorado, 6 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:33.799 where it's decriminalized to have magic mushrooms around Oakland, San Francisco, Santa 7 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:38.359 Cruz. Here in the Golden State as well, and apparently one dispensary in 8 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:41.719 La County. I read that story last night when I was prepping for today's 9 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:46.759 show, as stories in the La Times. I was in the Bay Area 10 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.759 before moving back to Los Angeles. I was gone for twelve years. Came 11 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.320 back because I missed it. But when I was up there, I was 12 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:56.560 covering many things, but I covered Scott Wiener, State Senator. Then he 13 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.799 was not in the state House, he was in the Assembly. He has 14 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.519 a Senate Bill fifty eight, which would decriminalize psychedelic mushrooms here in California as 15 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.879 well. Just saying it's National Mushroom Hunting Day. So I thought I'd just 16 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.359 surfaced some of that. Also, this hour, we're going to have more 17 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.359 than a couple of takes on artificial intelligence. I've been covering tech a long 18 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.519 time as well, and artificial intelligence is something that's touching all parts of the 19 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:26.920 economy and society. And the CEO and founder of open Ai, which created 20 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:33.519 the chat GPT bolt on that they partnered with Microsoft and Bing, was on 21 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:34.959 Capitol Hill yesterday. So we're going to be reviewing some of that. But 22 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:41.040 first we have a few quick headlines as we get going this morning. President 23 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:46.239 Biden is canceling his upcoming visits to Australia and Papua New Guinea due to ongoing 24 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:51.079 debt ceiling talks. Meantime, the President will still travel to Japan later today 25 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:56.439 to participate in the G seven economic Summit. The legal status of the abortion 26 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:00.519 pill mifipristone will be the subject of a court hearing today. A re judge 27 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.760 panel with the Fifth Circuit Federal Appeals Court will decide on the legal status of 28 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.719 the pill, which was used in over half of the recent abortions in the 29 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:15.199 US. The court has jurisdiction over Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, the 30 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:21.560 Department of Justice is charging a former Apple employee was stealing autonomous technology on behalf 31 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:28.080 of a Chinese self driving car company, Wibau. Lang worked as a software 32 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:32.639 engineer and was among two percent of Apple employees who had access to proprietary databases. 33 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:38.000 That comes from a special task force within the Department of Justice, as 34 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.719 this trade war with China between China and the United States continues to crank up. 35 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.039 In just a few minutes, we're going to talk with ABC's White House 36 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:52.319 correspondent Carrying Travers about those debt ceiling and possible default negotiations that are going on 37 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.639 in Washington. We're gonna start with some more stories coming out of the KFI 38 00:02:54.680 --> 00:03:00.120 twenty four hour newsroom. Though Huntington Beach has withdrawn from the OC Power Authority, 39 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.560 leaving only Buena Park, Fullerton and Irvine as members of the Clean Energy 40 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:09.120 Agency. Huntington Beach mayor Tony Strickland says there have been too many issues. 41 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:15.560 There's not many organizations that have had this lack of transparency, unqualified leadership, 42 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.360 and the audience and the grand jury reports, whistle blower complaints, and again, 43 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.280 this is a relatively new organization. The OCPA says it's already fixed eighty 44 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:28.719 percent of the issues listed in audits, with one hundred percent compliance promised by 45 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:35.039 summer. The agency says withdrawing now only hurts low income homeowners and small businesses 46 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:39.400 that need the agency's two percent cheaper rates. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for 47 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:45.159 a man accused of abducting his ex girlfriend in Riverside County and holding her hostage 48 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.560 using a fake handgun. The man is charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, 49 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.439 and other charges for the alleged crimes. Last week. The man has pleaded 50 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.439 not guilty. The hearing Friday will determine whether there is enough evidence to go 51 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:03.439 to trial. A professional bee rescuer in Ontario says the last thing you want 52 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:08.680 to do with a swarm of bees is swat at them. Eli Barkanov says, 53 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.159 if you do, the bees read it as an attack. In that 54 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.599 situation, you want to stay as calm as possible, even like hold your 55 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:18.160 breath, because the carbon dioxide that we emit it aggravates the bees. Barkanov 56 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.680 is best known as Eli the Bee Guy, and to prove his point, 57 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.759 he had me stand in the middle of a swarm yesterday, and yes, 58 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.240 dozens of bees landed on me, bumped my forehead, face and neck, 59 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.600 and I slowly walked away without getting stung. The first instinct is to start 60 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.120 swatting them like like they were flies or something exactly. Yeah, and that's 61 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:39.560 that's the biggest mistake. That's when they feel threatened. And if they feel 62 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.079 threatened, well, they're going to defend themselves. He says. The guy 63 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.920 who was seen on video in Encino Monday should have never swatted at the bees 64 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.800 in Ontario. Steve Gregory King, if I knows. On the KFI live 65 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:54.680 line, we have ABC House Correspondent, White House Correspondent, and House correspondent. 66 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.399 I get, I don't. Washington d DC is carried travers Hi Karen 67 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.319 Learning, I'll take all of it. Sorry about that. Hey, how 68 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.279 is the tone coming out of How was the tone coming out of yesterday's meeting 69 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:12.199 about this looming X date of possible default. Yeah. So the President said 70 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.839 that the meeting yesterday with Kevin McCarthy and other congressional leaders was good and productive. 71 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.759 Chuck Schumer, the Senate Democratic leader, said that it was much more 72 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:27.120 cordial than the meeting the week before. Everybody was more pleasant and there was 73 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:31.680 more agreement that the default is not an option, And even Kevin McCarthy said 74 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:36.279 that, you know, while he thinks the two sides are still not very 75 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:41.759 close, but they're far apart, he did think that the structure for negotiations 76 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.079 had improved and there was a better kind of base scenario right now because those 77 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:50.800 senior officials on both sides being tasked with negotiating for the next couple of days, 78 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.600 so, you know, odd glimmers of optimism, while at the same 79 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.600 time reality saying, well, we're still pretty far apart. So now they 80 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.160 will get down to work for the next couple of days. They started already 81 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.839 last night with meeting right away, continuing it today at that senior staff level, 82 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:10.839 and the President today heads off to Japan for the g seventh Summit for 83 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.240 a couple of days. But notably he has cut that Asia trip short, 84 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.040 not going to Papa New Guinea, not going to Australia, so he can 85 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:23.240 be back in Washington for what he called final negotiation. Okay, so negotiations 86 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.399 leveled up yesterday. You mentioned Biden's itinerary changed. Is that is that a 87 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.160 big deal or is that just kind of collateral damage during this process. You 88 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:34.360 know, it's always a potential when a president travels overseas that there could be 89 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:39.360 something that brings him back, but usually they try to keep a schedule because 90 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.720 there is a lot that goes into planning an overseas trip, especially one that 91 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.839 takes them all the way to Australia. He would have been the first president 92 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.959 to go to Papa New Guinea, so that's very significant, and they really 93 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.759 did not want to cancel that. So I think it's very significant that they 94 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:57.040 have cut short this trip. That shows how important it was for the president 95 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.399 to be back here in Washington next week to have these in person meetings. 96 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.399 But I do think it's notable that he called it final negotiations. He didn't 97 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:11.879 say he was coming back to continue talks with Kevin McCarthy to keep ongoing negotiations 98 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.560 going. He said it was final and they still confident. Then by the 99 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.279 time he gets back, they're going to be in that position to push this 100 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:23.000 across the finish line. It seems before yesterday's negotiation, the meeting at the 101 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:28.319 White House, at least there were some incomes when it comes to incoming things. 102 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.800 When it comes to other unrelated politics to budget and like immigration came up 103 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.040 on the GOP side. Our moving goalposts out of the way now, is 104 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:41.959 it seems like everybody's focused on the debt ceiling and the X date. Yes, 105 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.800 I mean yes, but also budget issues are of course a part of 106 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.399 this, and you know, we don't know exactly what is going to end 107 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:53.040 up in this final agreement. They all said yesterday they're not going to negotiate 108 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.759 this in public. We know a couple of things that are on the table 109 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:59.639 include climbing back some of the unspent COVID funding that that's worth, some of 110 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:03.000 the cuts and spending cuts could be done that there could be some issues on 111 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:11.079 streamlining opponents and regulations on energy projects, and also Republicans looking to try and 112 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.480 make some tougher restrictions on federal aid programs. But otherwise they all were very 113 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.480 clear yesterday we're not going to negotiate this in public, and they were not 114 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.279 going to get into the nuts and bolts of what they talked about. Karen, 115 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.160 thank you for your time this morning. I hope we can talk later 116 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.920 this week. I have a great day. That was ABC White House Correspondent 117 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.680 Karen Travers. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the 118 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.240 KFI twenty four hour news room. The La City Council has decided against formally 119 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.519 asking the city planner to stop a hotel from being built in Benedict Canyon. 120 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.120 The motion failed on a seven to seven split. People showed up to yesterday 121 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:48.159 city council meeting to both support and protest the hotel. This man says, 122 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.879 the hotel does not belong in Benedict Canyon. We have a party house problem 123 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.080 in the canyon. This is a permanent party house twenty four to seven. 124 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.159 The hotel's developers says guests would not be parting loud because the hotel would have 125 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.919 noise restrictions. The hotel at hand would be home to fifty nine rooms. 126 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.799 Eight single family homes would also sit on the more than thirty two acre property 127 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:13.120 in La Blake Trolley k if I News. Executives from Silicon Valley Bank and 128 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.039 Signature Bank have appeared before the Senate Banking Committee for a hearing on the bank's 129 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.639 failures. Committee chair Sharad Brown stead, in his opening statement, the banks 130 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:26.519 were fatally mismanaged and executives put short term profits ahead of everything else. The 131 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.639 same answer we find to most questions about big bank failures because the executives who 132 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.960 are getting rich. Brown says the executives were paying out bonuses up until the 133 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:43.240 hours before regulators seized their assets. The head of the artificial intelligence company that 134 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:48.000 makes chat GPT has told Congress government intervention will be critical to mitigating the risks 135 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.799 of increasingly powerful AI systems. I think if this technology goes wrong, it 136 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.919 can go quite wrong, and we want to be vocal about that. We 137 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.799 want to work with the government to that from happening. Open AICEO Sam Altman 138 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:07.039 testified yesterday at a Senate hearing. His startup got the public's attention when it 139 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.000 released chat GPT late last year. Lawmakers expressed concerns about the ability of generative 140 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:18.600 AI tools to mislead people, spread falsehoods, violate copyright protections, and upend 141 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.320 the job market. This is another revolution in the tech sector. You think 142 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.519 about it, you go back to the PC revolution in the Internet revolution, 143 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.480 and now we have the AI revolution, and we have Jane Wells and Mike 144 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.679 ebusculated this hour to help us get our arms around some of this. Pro 145 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:37.200 choice activists have rallied around, rallied outside North Carolina's capital over an abortion band 146 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.279 that passed despite the governor's veto. Republicans in the state House and Senate work 147 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:46.759 together to override Governor Roy Cooper's veto. Yesterday, Cooper only needed one Republican 148 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.159 to vote against the party to keep the abortion laws intact. This woman says 149 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:54.720 she's been fighting against the bill for months and for it to turn so quickly 150 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.000 was overwhelming. We're not done. We're upset right now. We're going to 151 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.919 collect ourselves and we're gonna gather, but this is not over. The twelve 152 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.879 week abortion band goes into effect July first. It has exceptions for medical emergencies, 153 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.639 cases of rape and incest, and life limiting fetal anomalies. Officials in 154 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:15.000 China have sent crews to search for thirty nine crew members of a fishing boat 155 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.240 that capsized in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Chinese media reports the accident 156 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.720 happened early yesterday with a crew that includes seventeen from China, seventeen from Indonesia, 157 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.519 and five from the Philippines. China is believed to operate the world's largest 158 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:31.000 fishing fleet. Many of them stay at sea for months or even years at 159 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.200 a time. At five thirty five. It's Biz Bite Wednesday, so Jane 160 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.799 Wells will join us. She's from CNBC and from KFI. Jane is bringing 161 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:43.039 some news on the often teased, never delivered or not yet cybertruck from Tesla. 162 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.679 So we'll do this week in elon musk. Jane has a take on 163 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.399 AI as well, But right now let's welcome in Rich DeMuro Riches, the 164 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.600 tech reporter at KTLA here in Los Angeles and more importantly has a Saturday show 165 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.600 here on KFI as well. Good morning Rich, Hey, Good morning Hugh 166 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.440 Jason. Good to talk to you. An AI founder Sam Altman telling Congress 167 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.720 that AI regulation is essential. So what was your hot take on what you 168 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:11.000 saw yesterday? Well, I think that everyone is sort of agreeing that this 169 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:16.200 is a place that needs to be looked at. Now. The regulations are 170 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.200 going to be tricky because it's a technology that is ever changing and we're not 171 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.480 really sure what it's capable of, and we also don't want to stop the 172 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.480 progress of this. So I think it's a very tricky place. But everyone 173 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.200 that's involved in it sort of agrees that, yeah, there are definitely some 174 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:39.320 downsides to this that we need to be very aware of, especially as AI 175 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.159 evolves gets smarter. And the thing I think most people are concerned about is 176 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.799 when they start building robots with generative AI that starts to think for themselves. 177 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.360 Yeah, I agree. Do you think that do you get the tone that 178 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:58.159 we learned from past missteps when it comes to regulation and technological advances. Well, 179 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.639 that's a tough fun because I think that what happened with like Google and 180 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.159 Microsoft and all these other companies that you know, the web one point zero 181 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.279 companies, they were left unchecked. You know, everyone celebrated their existence, 182 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.639 they celebrated what these companies were able to do, But the reality is they 183 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.399 were able to grow in a way that was just sort of unchecked in any 184 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.440 way. And that's good because they were able to get big. But it's 185 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.000 bad because now we're seeing the results of that. So I think that people 186 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.159 don't want a rehash of that. But at the same time, there are 187 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:35.480 so many benefits this artificial intelligence technology for so many different business lines that people 188 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.480 want this to happen. But we just wanted to happen in a safe way 189 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.600 that doesn't also ruin everything else about our lives. I know that I have 190 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.679 to ask myself this every week for my show. I listen to your show, 191 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.919 you have to mention AI as well. Are we given this the proper 192 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.519 amount of scope? Do you think? Is it too much coverage to little 193 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.240 coverage? What's your hot take on that one? Oh? I mean I 194 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.399 could make my entire three hour show about AI every single week. It is 195 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.320 the biggest thing happening in our lifetime at this point. We saw the Internet 196 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.679 happen, we saw evs happen, We've seen a lot of change in the 197 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:13.240 technology, you know, things like mobile phones. But this changes everything because 198 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.120 like we saw the Internet built into every device, including coffee cups, we're 199 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:24.399 going to see AI built into every single industry in this world. There is 200 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.440 nothing that it will not touch, and so it is big and it's everything. 201 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.000 So I think we're not. I mean, I think if we're giving 202 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.080 it the right amount of attention, I don't even think we have begun to 203 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.120 understand the capabilities of this just yet. All right, well, thank you 204 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.759 for reinforcing my take on it as well. And if we're as long as 205 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.799 we're hour measuring, yours is three hours, minds two hours on Sundays. 206 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.879 Okay, Web one point zero let's go to Google. It's going to start 207 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.720 auto deleting accounts that haven't been used in a while. I haven't seen this 208 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.480 one yet. What's going on? Yeah, this is uh, you know. 209 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.120 Google says that look, if an account is sitting there dormant, hackers 210 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.679 can get into it much easier and use it to spread malicious things software, 211 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.799 emails, whatever. So they haven't really done this before, but they are 212 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.879 going to start deleting accounts that have not been used in two years. So 213 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.159 if you open up an email account a couple of years ago you forgot about 214 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.080 it, they will delete that starting December twenty twenty three. Now keep in 215 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.360 mind, this is going to be a slow, gradual thing. They're not 216 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.720 just gonna go ahead and delete everything automatically the first day. They're going to 217 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.759 start with accounts that were opened and never used again. So you know, 218 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.679 you might have opened it back in the day when Gmail first came out and 219 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.080 then he said, ah, never mind, and he never used it. 220 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.519 And they're going to do this slowly unlike a lot of other services. This 221 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.080 is also important. They're not going to put that email address back out there. 222 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.399 So if you have an email address and they close that account, someone 223 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:45.960 else will not be able to claim that email, which is nice. Yeah, 224 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:50.639 to keep in mind, this does affect Gmail Docs, Drive Meat Calendar, 225 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.519 YouTube, Google Photos. The only thing is if you have a YouTube 226 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.840 account and you have a video uploaded to it, they will not delete that 227 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.080 count because a lot of times that's kind of for posterity reasons. If this 228 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.200 is a security concern, why are they waiting until December to do it to 229 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.360 start diffrun? Well, I think this is the first time they've done this 230 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.639 in a big way, and so they want to make sure they do it 231 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.960 right. Because Google is a big company. A lot of people have data 232 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:19.080 saved with Google. And look, I mean Google still has a lot of 233 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.399 security. You know, they have a lot of security precautions in place that 234 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.159 work today. This will just kind of increase that as we see more fishing 235 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:30.519 and all that stuff happening. That makes sense. Okay, let's move over 236 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.600 to Apple because this kind of ties into AI a little bit, and that 237 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.600 is I had Joanna Stearn on my show and you've I believe you've talked about 238 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.720 this too the Wall Street Journal where she trained AI to use her voice and 239 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.679 her picture in order to try to fake identify herself or other places. Apple 240 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.720 is going to introduce an assistive feature. What's up with this one? Yeah, 241 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:57.559 so this is for Global Accessibility Awareness Day, which is tomorrow. Apple 242 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.759 showed off a whole bunch of new accessibility features. I think they're really a 243 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:06.480 leader in this area, making phones accessible and usable by everyone, no matter 244 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.519 what your abilities are, and so they've already been really good about this, 245 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:11.920 but now they're introducing a whole bunch of new stuff. The one that you're 246 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.720 talking about is called Personal Voice. So you spend fifteen minutes on your phone 247 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.279 reading a whole bunch of different phrases, and then your phone will recreate your 248 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.119 voice. And so what's that good for. It's not for what Joanna was 249 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.160 using it for. It's really form, you know, anyone who may be 250 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.480 at risk of losing their speech due to some sort of disability, so for 251 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:41.119 instance als and so this will enable you to speak even though your voice box 252 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.039 no longer works. But of course many many people will be trying this out 253 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.960 just for the curiosity factor to see, and that's not the only feature. 254 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.720 They're also making a very simple phone screen, so all the apps are very 255 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:59.960 big, buttons very simple to use might be good for you know, Grandma, 256 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.559 grandpa, that kind of stuff, but also folks that have different disabilities. 257 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.240 And so I think that they're doing a real lot in this area and 258 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.240 these things are coming later this year. This is part of Apple's corporate DNA. 259 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:12.599 Going back to Steve Jobs, in a lot of ways, he wanted 260 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:18.000 the watch and other features to be health oriented. Am I mis remembering that? 261 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.119 Well, it's interesting when the watch first came out, it was really 262 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:29.000 more app oriented, and now it has become a force with fitness because they 263 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.759 realized that people didn't really care about checking Instagram on their phone or getting an 264 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.359 Uber sorry from their watch, and so they have really tripled down for the 265 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.640 watch on health and also with the phone. So now, by the way, 266 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:42.559 when they came out with Apple Fitness, you had to have an Apple 267 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.960 Watch and they said it was required, and then all of a sudden a 268 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.880 year later, they said, oh, never mind, you can just use 269 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.880 your phone now. So if you haven't tried Apple Fitness in a while, 270 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.039 you can use just your iPhone. You don't even need an Apple Watch anymore. 271 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:57.759 But yeah, Apple is really moving ahead in accessibility and fitness in a 272 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.200 big way. We didn't have that this one slated. Rich I just want 273 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.599 to ask you a hot take role on Apple classical music. Have you seen 274 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.759 any feedback on that one? Is it positive? Negative? Or is it 275 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.279 nobody really noticing yet? I'm not hearing a lot about it, but I 276 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.599 used it for a bit and I thought it was actually really neat, and 277 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.920 I think that if you are into classical music, or even if you're not, 278 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.680 it's a really neat way to rediscover that genre because Apple did a lot 279 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:29.680 of work, as they typically do in you know, recreating artwork and recataloging 280 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:33.599 all of these tunes, and so check it out. I mean, it's 281 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.319 included if you have Apple Music. So the only thing is it's not offline. 282 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.279 You can't like listen to it on a plane because you can't download the 283 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.160 music. You have to listen to it streaming for some odd reason, I'm 284 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:45.720 not really sure. Okay, cool, Well, thanks for that update. 285 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.920 And I didn't mean to bring that on you, but it just just popped 286 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:49.880 in my mind. We're talking about Apple. I thought i'd bring that one 287 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.119 up because it's kind of new. Yeah, sure, rich to mur here 288 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.319 for you, Jason. Thanks rich Richard Murrow, of course, is a 289 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.799 tech reporter at KTLA, but he his show was on satur Days here on 290 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.319 KFI, a three hour block with Rich Rich Thanks for your time this morning. 291 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:06.400 All right, Jason, have a great day. Thank you. Let's 292 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:07.599 get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour 293 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:12.039 news room. The West Hollywood City Council has voted to add four LA County 294 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:17.680 Sheriff's deputies to the city to help address rising crime. The council last summer 295 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:22.640 voted to remove four deputies, replacing them with unarmed security ambassadors to patrol the 296 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.720 streets. One local resident says West Hollywood is home to many people in the 297 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:32.279 LGBTQ community, making it a targeted area for crimes. Seeing the security ambassadors 298 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.839 and videos that are like viral online, just standing there and letting things happen 299 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:40.319 just perpetuates the other residents say, people who know there will be no repercussions 300 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:45.039 for their actions will continue to burglarize and rob the community. The city said 301 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.119 Monday they are willing to add more officers in the future in West Hollywood. 302 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.960 Chris Adler KFI News Right now on wake Up Call, we have Jane Wells 303 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.319 on the line for a biz bite breakfast chat. We're gonna get the AI 304 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:57.880 soon. Good morning, Jane, We're gonna start. I'd like to start 305 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.599 with Silicon Value Bank. Could please? So AI was not the only thing 306 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:07.920 on Capitol Hill yesterday. No. No. The former CEO of Silicon Valley 307 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.400 Bank, Gregory Becker. It's the first time he's spoken publicly since the bank 308 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:17.440 failed, and he basically said it was everybody's fault. Everybody else's fault, 309 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.799 not his. He said he felt terribly sorry that the bank failed, but 310 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.000 that you know, the FEDS started raising rates after promising to keep rates low 311 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:26.839 for the foreseeable future, and you know, he was caught off guard. 312 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.839 And then people started worrying about the bank on social media, and that caused 313 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.319 to run on the bank. You know, it went on and on and 314 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.759 on. He was blaming the board, blaming depositors, and finally a senator 315 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.039 said, hey, is any of this your fault? And he paused for 316 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.079 a while and he said, you know, I can't really think of anything 317 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.720 I did wrong. Well, you know, Jason, maybe if the bank 318 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.640 had not gone for months and months without someone in charge of risk management, 319 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.000 or maybe if the bank had started changing its capital strategy when it became clear 320 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.559 the Feds we're going to continue raising rates. I mean, there are a 321 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:04.839 bunch your regional banks that didn't tank, and Silicon Valley Bank did and he 322 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:10.640 really took no responsibility for it at all. Yeah, changing capital strategy or 323 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.680 you know, reading John Ford's newsletter from six months ago that he called it 324 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.240 out. And I know he's a colleague of yours at CNBC. I used 325 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.440 to work with him when I was in the Bay Area as great. So 326 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.240 yeah, I mean, you're right, it was this was mismanagement. It 327 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.480 sounds like the buck didn't stop at the CEO desk. The buck just got 328 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.880 bought up by JP Morgan Chase another well, you know, one senator said 329 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.759 his story sounded a lot like you know, you're telling me the dog ate 330 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.160 my homework. Now, if anyone else is to blame, you could blame 331 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.440 the FED in part for not paying attention, because it's supposed to be regulating 332 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.119 the bank and it was asleep at the wheel. But it was just a 333 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.480 strange, you know how these CEOs can be, and this was one of 334 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.960 those where the guy just wasn't really reading the room. Yeah, exactly. 335 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.559 And the FED did do some self reflection when it comes to it's yes enforcement 336 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.799 as well. So j Powell will have his time on the hill pretty soon 337 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.400 too. You mentioned CEOs. Let's stay with one. Let's do this week 338 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:08.559 in Elon Musk. Elon says the cyber truck is really truly coming this year, 339 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.920 honest, it says, And do you think that's really truly honest? 340 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.240 Well do you, Jason? I mean you know the guy's history on predictions 341 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.039 and timelines. He first, I think the cyber truck. He had a 342 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.319 shareholder meeting yesterday, which, by the way, I don't know if you've 343 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:29.759 ever covered shareholder meetings, but there I love them to actually go to one 344 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.400 when you can, because people who who you'd only have to own one share 345 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.799 to be able to go to the shareholder meeting and stand up and get the 346 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.200 microphone and ask the CEO something and like one guy was there dressed as a 347 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.240 robot wearing a cowboy hat and asked something about you know, are you going 348 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:47.559 to make an RV? But Elon, among many things yesterday said that yes, 349 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:51.599 the cyber truck is really coming later this year. He also predicted that 350 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:53.920 once they start production, they'll sell between two hundred and fifty and five hundred 351 00:23:53.960 --> 00:24:00.480 thousand a year. Okay, and you know we're still waiting on the roadster 352 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.519 in the Semi, which were promised, you know, originally back in twenty 353 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.720 seventeen. So oh and one other thing, he said, the Model Why 354 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:12.440 is going to be the best selling car on Earth in twenty twenty three. 355 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:15.880 So I don't know. If I were taking one side of the bet, 356 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.680 i'd probably short the prediction. Yeah, but he is saying the cyber truck's 357 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:23.200 really coming. Look, I know Elon gets a lot of binary responses. 358 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:26.880 I understand that, but CEO for him is cheerleader, executive officer in a 359 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.599 lot of ways. And remember when he when he was putting when you put 360 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.880 the Semi on stage, there was a there was a mishap on the on 361 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.480 the prototype launch as well. So yeah, but to your point, I 362 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.319 don't go to shareholder meetings anymore. I'd kind of just do the earnings calls 363 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:41.599 and just kind of lay back and let them talk. But uh, but 364 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.839 that does sound entertaining with with Elon. Yeah, I mean, don't forget. 365 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.240 Oh you said you mentioned the Model Why. I just wanted to point 366 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.759 out that an idea about Muskie is S three x Y. He wanted it. 367 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.960 He couldn't get the Model E from Mercedes because he wanted all of his 368 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.920 models A spell sexy. Oh you're kidding. Oh you're kidding. I didn't 369 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.640 know that. That is so typical. It's right. Let's move on to 370 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.440 chat GPT because they were. Sam Alban was on Capitol Hall yesterday. I'd 371 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.599 love to get your take on him trying to get in front of regulation. 372 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.440 Did we learn a lesson from past like PC revolutions, Internet revolutions? Are 373 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.400 we in front of AI? Oh no, we're not in front of AI. 374 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.559 We're never in front of these next things, and certainly Congress never is 375 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:25.279 because Congress, I mean, look, you've got Diane Feinstein as a senator, 376 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:26.759 So no way, we're not. This is this is something we need 377 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.519 to pay attention to. I do think there were a couple of things interesting 378 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.720 that came out of that. Sam Altman saying that we need to do this, 379 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.000 you know, with some precision, and that maybe we need to have 380 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.200 new models of AI A registered and have to go through testing before they're released, 381 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.240 and the woman who's the head of security at IBM Privacy was saying things 382 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:49.640 that were very good I thought like there needs to be transparency that if you're 383 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:55.319 using AI, there needs to be something that tells you you're not interacting with 384 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:56.640 a human. But I have to tell you, Jason. For the last 385 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.680 couple of weeks, I've been talking to chief financial officers at companies big and 386 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.680 small, publican private, all over the West, and to a person to 387 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:11.799 a company they are using AI. They want to roll out more generative AI. 388 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.359 They want to do it for a variety of reasons. It's so fast, 389 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.119 it makes operations so efficient, labor is still tight, and this can 390 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.759 replace a lot of people, and frankly, you know, it can replace 391 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:29.759 people that they that they do have and save money. So this is something 392 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.880 that they are all saying, this is the next big thing. Now we've 393 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:38.240 heard that about other things, true, but like the cybertruck. But this 394 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:44.240 is the thing since the Internet that's going to revolutionize everything, and we don't 395 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.920 know what we don't know. I think the question is, you know, 396 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:53.680 if they can have an AI. Jennifer Jones lee that AI will never go 397 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:59.799 on vacation, you won't need to be filling in. It doesn't need health 398 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:07.039 insurance. And at a certain point can the AI Jennifer Jonesley or Jason Middleton 399 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:12.200 or Jane Wells write stories that sound almost real. I don't know about you, 400 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:18.519 but when I read certain news stories, particularly about earnings, I can 401 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.119 tell that was generated by an algorithm. I can tell still that it was 402 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.519 not written by a human. But that is going to get more and more 403 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.759 difficult to discern. I think I think I'm definitely with you on that, 404 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.079 and especially with voice. And we just talked to Richard Murrow about Apple's feature 405 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.160 about recording voice. Now that's that's for a different health purpose or a disability 406 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.279 purpose. But at the same time, you know it's coming. It's quick, 407 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.160 and I don't think we're overplaying our hand here. Last one I want 408 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.119 to ask you about is something that I don't have any real affiliation with, 409 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.640 and that's having an office crush. And it says office crushes are okay. 410 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:55.720 My office crushes with our our coffee machine in the calf. Why our office 411 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.960 crush is going to be okay? Well? This is This was from the 412 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.319 New York Times. New York Times has an office advice column written by somebody 413 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:07.079 called Roxanne Gay and somebody said, I have a serious office crush on a 414 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.240 co worker. Not a little crush, a huge crush quote far more than 415 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:12.559 anything I've felt in a long time. Now, the person said, I 416 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:17.039 know that work in romance don't mix. Have no idea if the other person 417 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:18.279 feels the same way. So what should I do? Well, first of 418 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.319 all, Jason, what would you do? What would you advise someone who's 419 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:27.480 got an incredible office crush get a new job? Call HR? I don't 420 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.000 know. I don't know that. I don't I'm staying away from this one. 421 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.480 I'm a middle aged white male. There's no way I have anything to 422 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.920 you. You know what, Yes, your opinion no longer matters about anything 423 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.359 apparently anyhow, rock sand said. Roxanne said, enjoy the fun parts of 424 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.400 the crush, the thrill when the guy walks in the room. Though in 425 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.839 general, romance doesn't wix with work and should definitely be avoided if there's a 426 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.519 power imbalance. But other than that, this is what Roxanne said. A 427 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.599 crush is a healthy thing. Don't overthink it. At the end of the 428 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:02.039 day, if he really really like this person, why not shoot your shot. 429 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.079 The worst he can do is say he's not interested, which will hurt. 430 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.680 But you can handle it and have information about how to proceed and if 431 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.079 he says yes to a date, well and if everything is possible. My 432 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:18.200 thing is this my reaction as Jane is. But there's something about having the 433 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.359 crush and never acting on it which is kind of fun too, Like he 434 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.319 got sort of a secret crush in your footment. But then if you ask 435 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.440 somebody out, then it becomes the whole thing. So I would say, 436 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:33.319 enjoy the thrill of the crush, but put a lid on it right on. 437 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.039 I'm with you. That's good stage coaching advice from Jane Wells. Thank 438 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:38.920 you so much. It's always a pleasure to speak with you. Jane, 439 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:44.599 hope we could talk again soon. Take care that CNBC's and kafis Jane Wells. 440 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.920 President Biden is canceling his upcoming visits to Australia and Papua New Guinea, 441 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.359 where he would have been the first president to visit. That's due to ongoing 442 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.799 debt ceiling talks. Meantime, the President will still travel to Japan later today 443 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:03.640 to participate in the g se An Economic Summit. The legal status the abortion 444 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.400 pill myf apristone, will be the subject of a court hearing today. A 445 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:12.000 three judge panel with the Fifth Circuit Federal Appeals Court will decide on the legal 446 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:17.480 status of the PILL, and the Department of Justice is charging a former Apple 447 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:23.880 employee was stealing autonomous technology on behalf of a Chinese self driving company. It's 448 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.640 five fifty on your wake up call it. ABC Tech reporter Mike Dubuski is 449 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.559 on the line. When chat gpt launched late last year, and then Microsoft 450 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.079 rolled out a partnership with open ai for Internet searching earlier this year, the 451 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.599 world moved pretty much to the edge of its collective seat. Mike, thanks 452 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.960 for giving us some time this morning. Yeah, absolutely so. Sam Altman, 453 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.200 who is the CEO of open AIS, he mentioned there was before lawmakers 454 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.680 yesterday to answer questions about not just what this technology can do, but also 455 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.440 how it can be regulated. And Richard Blumenthal is on the chair of this 456 00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.960 particular Senate subcommittee. He actually kicked off this hearing with piece of writing that 457 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.440 was actually written and voiced by chat GPT. So here's a little bit of 458 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.960 what that sounded like. Too often we have seen what happens when technology outpaces 459 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:17.519 regulation, the unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation of disinformation. Again 460 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.519 that was not Richard Blumenthal, though it sounded just like him, and sam 461 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.480 Altman was pretty clear eyed about some of the risks of this type of technology, 462 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.519 and he brought with him some solutions he thought. He suggested that lawmakers 463 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.480 could create a new government agency that would sort of act like a DMV for 464 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.799 AI, where they would issue licenses to start up companies, and if those 465 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.240 companies were to run a foul of certain government rules, then they could have 466 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.880 their licenses revoked and they could not develop the technology anymore. He also suggested 467 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.160 some new tests that these companies could do on their AI system so that they 468 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.640 self replicate and ex filtrate into the wild, in other words, that they 469 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.440 don't go rogue and do things that the creators don't intend them to do. 470 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.559 Sam Alman also inviting audits by independent third parties to sort of supplement the government's 471 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.359 work here. So a significant moment that a big tech CEO appearing before Capitol 472 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.480 Hill and saying, yes, come regulate my industry. Yeah, Sam Altman, 473 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.519 the newest tech billionaire vying for Times Person of the Year already this year. 474 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.920 Look, Mike is ai AI is in a hype cycle. I keep 475 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.599 referencing it as the PC revolution, then the Internet revolution, and now we 476 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.759 have the AI revolution. Some small ones in there too, like the iPhone 477 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:31.440 and the air fryer. But is um But are we covering this right? 478 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.440 There's a lot of clickbait headlines, is what I'm saying around AI. Do 479 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.680 you think that we're covering this right? You know, I think in the 480 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.279 tech journalism world, you're right that there is a concern that this is just 481 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.160 all hype and it's going to go away in a year, and you know, 482 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.880 next year we're gonna be talking about something completely different. But I mean 483 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.160 it's important to take a step back and just recognize where we're at when it 484 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.039 comes to the tech world right now. You and I have talked about this 485 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:57.599 before, Jason. The idea that you know, during the pandemic, you 486 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.480 know, it was it was a great moment for the big tech world. 487 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:01.839 We were all spending you know, sixteen hours a day in front of our 488 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.799 computer screens. We were buying new things, we were supplementing our home offices 489 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.720 with new tech. You know, things were really good. Now, as 490 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.480 the pandemic has sort of eased and people have gone back out into the world, 491 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.960 the tech world needs a hit right, Like, there's all these layoffs 492 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.519 happening. The digital ad market is shrinking, We're reevaluating our relationship with social 493 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:25.759 media and other pieces of technology. So the facebooks and the Apples and the 494 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.440 Googles of the world all are looking around and saying, what's the next thing 495 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.559 that's going to get people really excited? Facebook now Meta thinks that's going to 496 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.400 be the metaverse. Crypto was a big hype cycle as well, and that 497 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.720 you know, has been through a pretty rough year. I think it's fair 498 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.279 to say, now AI is this other thing, and you look at Microsoft 499 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:51.880 and Google hitching their their wagons to this particular hype cycle, and that seems 500 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.079 to be a you know, a legitimizing factor that these big tech companies see 501 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.599 this as a realistic, you know, future for the tech industry. And 502 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.160 it's not like it's necessarily going to be one or the other. It can 503 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.759 be both, it can be none of these things. But yeah, I 504 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.480 think I think it's important to look around and just kind of take in the 505 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.000 broader context because you know, it's it's it's not like our phones change that 506 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.320 much any you know, every year anymore, and it's not like you know, 507 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.239 social media is radically changing. In fact, you know, I think 508 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.679 we're maybe reevaluating you know, how we think about that sort of technology. 509 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.039 So I think that's the moment that we're in. Well, Mike, we've 510 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:28.239 got about five months of data since chat GPT Open AI, Microsoft and being 511 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.880 Google and barred. Let's talk about where AI is being effective so far. 512 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.800 Has Microsoft made a dent in share when it comes to Internet search when it 513 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.719 comes to Google's monopoly, So no, I don't think yet when it comes 514 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.679 to you know, the search functionality, but I do think it's worth looking 515 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.840 back to last week Google Io, which was their developer conference. They showed 516 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.000 off a bunch of new hardware devices, you know, a folding pixel phone 517 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:57.480 and some new yeah, cheaper phone and that sort of thing, but they 518 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.880 also spend a fair amount of time talking about the role of AI and their 519 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.920 technology. They introduced this new segment of their company called Google Labs, where 520 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.599 we as just you know, lay people, as average tech consumers, can 521 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.039 sign up and basically beta test what Google is working on, to get a 522 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.840 kind of hands on look at some of the AI tech that they have, 523 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.679 you know, going on kind of behind the scenes. There's an AI music 524 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.719 generator that they're working on, for example, But the one that I thought 525 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.719 was really really fascinating was called the Search Generative Experience, where they are bringing 526 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.400 bard, which is their AI chatbot, a little bit closer to Google Search, 527 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:36.119 which is their core technology. Right. Google search has been pretty much 528 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.400 the same for about twenty years now, right, like the you go to 529 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.920 Google and it answers your question in the form of a bunch of different links. 530 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:49.840 And Microsoft, as you alluded to there, did seem to kind of 531 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.039 edge in on Google's territory by integrating AI into its search engine, bing saying 532 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.360 Okay, this is how we're going to now challenge Google, being has been 533 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.000 a perennial also ran a second place to Google, We're going to add in 534 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.280 AI to maybe differentiate ourselves a little bit more. Google when it rolled out 535 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.400 Barred introduced that chatbot as a separate website, you know, distinct from its 536 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.800 its main you know, search engine. Now it's getting a little bit closer 537 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.280 to that core technology, and I think that's a really really significant move. 538 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.559 So yeah, I think in a lot of ways, you know, people 539 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:23.679 are talking about what's the future of AI, I think a lot of it 540 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.360 is already here. Wow, that's uh. I'm glad that we're all kind 541 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.239 of covering it with with wide eyes. I do think that I think that 542 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.480 open sources is a big thing here too. And I do think that I 543 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.440 honestly think that the senators on Capitol Hill should let their staffers ask some of 544 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.119 the questions when these tech guys get up on there. I think that I 545 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.000 think there's an age differentiation that is very real, definitely, And you know, 546 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.880 the average age of a US congress person, I believe is in their 547 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.760 late fifties. I think the Senate's even a little bit older. I think 548 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.360 it's into the sixties. And you know, we all remember when Jeff Bezos 549 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.519 and Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg, you know, appear before Apitol Hill. 550 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.519 Not only were they very combative hearings, they were also you know, sometimes 551 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.159 the lawmakers, you know, we're maybe not the most informed. Maybe. 552 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.599 You know there's that exchange between Or and Hatch and Mark Zuckerberg in twenty eighteen 553 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.000 when he said, well, how do you make money on Facebook? And 554 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.280 Zuckerberg rather incredulously said, well, Sunder, we run ads. I think 555 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.519 we have come a little further along since then. You know, maybe the 556 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:29.400 staffing of certain lawmakers has gotten a little bit more tech educated. Although it's 557 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:34.320 worth mentioning too that I spoke to um Neil Chilson, who is the former 558 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.039 chief technologist at the FTC yesterday and he said, you know, it's worth 559 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.440 the lawmakers maybe taking a step back, maybe taking a pause on rushing into 560 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.039 legislating this and making sure that they understand the technology fully as well. So 561 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.400 you know, it's a fair amount of work to be done on that front. 562 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.360 But it's also maybe speaks just how complex this issue is. ABC Tech 563 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.199 reporter Mike Dubuski. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much for your time 564 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.360 twice this week, Maybe one more time later this week. Sure, yeah, 565 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:00.880 all right, take care takes Thanks a lot, Mike. Okay, 566 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.320 bye, Hey, before we get to the top of the hour, the 567 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.119 best part of waking up really may be folders in your cup. Two out 568 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.719 of three people surveyed by market research company One Pole say a steaming hot cup 569 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.800 of coffee is their go to first drink of the day. Fifty nine percent 570 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.440 say coffee is the first thing they reach for when they get to the office. 571 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.159 Almost half say ice coffee is a good way to start the work day, 572 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.239 followed by water at forty five percent in flavored water at thirty percent. 573 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.639 Three out of four survey'd say it takes two or more cups of Joe before 574 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.159 they really start to feel productive. All that coffee adds up to averaging over 575 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.599 six dollars for each coffee run, with an average of three and a half 576 00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.920 trips a week, buying an average of two and a half drinks on each 577 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.119 run, that's twenty eight hundred fifty five dollars a year. Amy King KFI 578 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:44.039 News Southern California weather from KFI low clouds and fog in the morning and then 579 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.920 partly cloudy highs in the mid sixties at the beaches, mid seventies inland for 580 00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.760 La and Orange County. Farther inland into the valleys, highs or mid seventies 581 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.800 to mid eighties to day. Areas of the San Fernando, Santa Clarita, 582 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.320 and San Gabriel Valleys could hit ninety and up to ninety four degrees, and 583 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.079 of course the Antelope Valleys look at the mid nineties as a high Today Tonight 584 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:06.360 partly cloudy early and then low clouds and fog overnight. Lows in the mid 585 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.880 to upper fifties pretty much across the Southland. Seal Beach right now is at 586 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.519 fifty eight degrees. Orange is also at fifty eight degrees. 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