WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:21.800 day. Now here's Nick coffee, all right? Better late than never. 3 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.359 We are getting the four o'clock hours started five past four o'clock because my clock 4 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:31.960 management usually is never good, but today even worse than usual. It's because 5 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:33.960 you know, I don't want to go to commercial break. I want to 6 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:38.039 take in every minute, every second I can get on the air here because 7 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:41.679 after today I'm going to be gone for five days, so I'm out of 8 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.880 here. Tomorrow morning. We're heading out of town and you'll be in good 9 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.880 hands with some very capable fill in hosts Tony Even, Eddie, Dave Jennings, 10 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.520 Scott Fitzgerald and of course the one, the only, the company man 11 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.719 himself, mister John Alden will be here. Now you're not taking tomorrow off, 12 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:57.960 right, correct, They'll still be here. Comp day. Nice. 13 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:03.400 Nice. I I really do think it's worked out once again, fingers crossed. 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:08.120 I feel like it's another trip, another you know, exit from the 15 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:11.079 show for a few days to where the timing is on my side. The 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.480 NBA drafts next week, so I'll be back for that, and as weak 17 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.959 as the draft is, I am really excited about the draft because you know, 18 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.200 the draft is awesome. I mean even I mean the draft being stronger 19 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.480 weak doesn't change my interest in watching and consuming, you know, a live 20 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.480 draft. So looking forward to that. But again, I'll be out. 21 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.879 So when you don't hear me, it's not because they got rid of me, 22 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.799 or maybe you know, maybe they do and they don't tell me until 23 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.359 I get back. But yeah, last show for me of the week here, 24 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:38.560 all right, So we did talk a little bit about the NBA Finals 25 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.519 last night coming to an end as the Celtics won the NBA title, and 26 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:49.840 this really felt like a very w hum not a lot of great storylines. 27 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:56.159 The games weren't all that competitive, and you know, the Celtics are one 28 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.079 of the bigger franchises in all of sports, so you know, it's not 29 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:00.920 as if we had a bunch of them teams nobody cares about that made it 30 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.599 deep into the playoffs. And then with the Mavericks, you know, they 31 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.400 won a title in what twenty eleven I think it was when they won it 32 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:14.319 with Dirk and Jay Kidd whenever Lebron was in his first year in Miami. 33 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.759 I think it was twenty eleven. So you know, it's not as if 34 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.400 you know, it's not as if it's just I mean, I don't know 35 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.319 what it was. I mean, it lacks storylines. It just didn't do 36 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:27.439 much for me, and I was kind of surprised to see that that was 37 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.000 the reaction from a lot of people. Usually, whenever you hear people complaining 38 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:36.120 about, man, this championship matchup sucks, or this NBA Finals matchup sucks, 39 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.319 the college football playoff pairing suck, it could just be people complaining because 40 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:44.280 people loved to bitch. However, sometimes there's some legitimacy to it, and 41 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:49.080 then you see some start to really go against the grain, right they want 42 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.240 to play Devil's advocate, And I never really saw anybody doing that. I've 43 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.560 not heard anybody try to tell try to take a different approach to viewing what 44 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:01.639 the NBA Finals were. But overall it was pretty pretty boring, and seeing 45 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.919 the Celtics celebrate, you know, I don't want to get back into it 46 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.919 now because it's just not worth it and it's uncomfortable. But Jason Tatum might 47 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:13.479 be one of the more uncomfortable, awkward, corny guys I've ever seen in 48 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.039 sports as far as knowing, Hey, you just accomplish something big, you 49 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:22.360 need to give a very very clever sound bite that you know could go viral, 50 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.120 could be remembered forever. And instead he just seemed very uncomfortable, very 51 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:29.960 forced, and copied off of a bunch of other people who have said things 52 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.280 after a big moment, Angel Reese, Kanye West, and Kevin Garnett. 53 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.520 That's a trio I didn't expect to see Jason Tatum copy off of, but 54 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:42.000 that's what he decided to do. And I do think he's a really likable 55 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.159 guy. I mean, I don't think he comes off as like a jerk 56 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.759 or as you know. I mean, he's a good player too. It 57 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.520 just to me it started to seem really obvious that he was uncomfortable whenever he 58 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.560 was being asked about the NBA Finals MVP, which of course he's the best 59 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:59.280 player on that team for the most part. I mean, I think Jay 60 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:01.360 I think Jaylen Brown has in the conversation. But you know, I would 61 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:09.560 say if you anonymously pulled every NBA GM in the league, I think you'd 62 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.879 end up getting more that would prefer having a guy like Tatum than having Brown. 63 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:15.639 But maybe I'm wrong. Both are great, by the way, but 64 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:19.519 it just seemed really uncomfortable whenever he was asked about And this is before it 65 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.959 all came to an end and he didn't win the NBA Finals MVP, which 66 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:27.639 everybody knew wasn't gona win it once Jaylen Brown started dominating. But it just 67 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.000 seemed, you know, for him to then list off all the when you 68 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.560 say you don't care, you're not worried about it, and then list every 69 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.720 single really good player that somehow didn't win the NBA Finals MVP when they were 70 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.560 the best player on their team, Like that's really an admission that you do 71 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.879 care and you actually care, you know, in a major way. So 72 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.639 anyways, all right, this this story is wild to me. It is 73 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:54.720 something I never thought I would see. Right, there's a lot of stories 74 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.279 over the years when it comes to sports and really just anything that you're you're 75 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.839 thinking, man, no way, who would have ever thought this would happen? 76 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.240 And that is that's what this situation is. And that's Bill Belichick's new 77 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.639 girlfriend. So TMZ broke the story that Bill Belichick, at seventy two years 78 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:11.399 old, is now dating a twenty four year old woman who is a former 79 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:16.600 cheerleader. And her name is Jordan Hudson. And for those that are you 80 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.360 know, unable to do that quick math, that's a forty eight year age 81 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:28.160 gap between Belichick and his new lady. And apparently these two met in twenty 82 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.240 twenty one, when he was six. I guess he would be at that 83 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:35.079 point, you know, three years ago, he'd be sixty nine and she'd 84 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.319 be twenty one. That even sounds weirder. I mean, she's still in 85 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.600 her twenties. He goes back to the sixties. But still, I mean 86 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.600 he met he could be his granddaughter. Absolutely she could. I mean, 87 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:53.439 it's insane. So they met on a flight from Boston to Florida, and 88 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:58.959 one of her former cheerleading teammates told TMZ that the two bonded over bonded over 89 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:04.519 a philosophy project the student athlete had been working on. So she describes herself 90 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:12.279 his girlfriend as a philosopher and glamorous girl scout. That's her Instagram bio, 91 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.240 which I guess is now private. It was, but she won a national 92 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:23.360 cheerleading championship while studying at Bridgewater State in Massachusetts. And yeah, before they 93 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:30.120 parted ways. After the flight, Belichick reportedly autographed her textbook she had it. 94 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.240 I mean, that's just that just sounds creepy, but I guess it's 95 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.560 her textbook for her philosophy project that she was working on. But in addition 96 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.079 to his signature, he listed the years of his Super Bowl wins and wrote, 97 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:45.319 Jordan, thanks for giving me a course in logic, save travels. 98 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:49.240 According to a photo of the message, which is which an X classmate of 99 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.639 Hudson shared with So this is how it became public. This was really private, 100 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.959 I guess. But an ex teammate of hers is the one who broke 101 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.959 the story to TMZ. So the two then exchanged numbers and have stayed in 102 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.879 touch, chatting about her schoolwork and x'es and o's of her cheerleading routines. 103 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:10.439 The couple apparently began dating the next year, after Belichick's sixteen year relationship with 104 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:15.519 his previous partner, Linda Holiday ended. I mean. It also says that 105 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.720 although they've largely kept their relationship private, she did attend some of Belichick's games 106 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:25.040 in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, and was spotted with him in 107 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:29.480 New Orleans in January of twenty twenty three and again in August. He was 108 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:36.199 also seen in the back row of a let's see here. Yeah, it 109 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.480 says that she eh, I'm trying to skim through this here. Yeah, 110 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.079 he was seen in the back row of a cheerleading competition. And this can't 111 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:49.120 be real, right, I mean, every detail about this true or not, 112 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:54.000 is creepy and disturbing. Yeah, whether I don't care if it's legal, 113 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.959 I don't care if it's consensual. The fact that there is a forty 114 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.879 eight age different, eight year age gap, it's crazy. You're signing you 115 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.600 know, your name with your super Bowl championships, and it's like a way 116 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.360 of flirting. That doesn't surprise me because I think you know, when you're 117 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.920 when you're the status of someone like Bill Belichick, I can totally see you 118 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.360 being very you know, unaware that that's mean, you know, hey, 119 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.600 if you're probably winked at or whatever after he signed it kind of thing like 120 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.639 to me, that just seems like wow, a little like a little aggressive, 121 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.879 a little a little weird like. But then again, you know, 122 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.120 he's somebody that is I mean, he's arguably the best coach of all time 123 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.480 when it comes to rings championships in the NFL. So you know, he's 124 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:43.799 a larger than life figure. Therefore, maybe that's not that Maybe that's not 125 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.759 not that out of character for someone of that like Bill Belichick doesn't do normal 126 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.919 stuff. He's not you know what I mean, Like he's been so far 127 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.919 removed from any level of normal life because he's you know, he's Bill Belichick. 128 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.399 But man like forty eight years to say, if you're the female, 129 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:05.120 you're twenty four years old, you're with somebody who's you know, in the 130 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.799 twilight of their career. And I hate to say life. You don't know 131 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.240 how long somebody might live. But I mean he's seventy two. Yeah, 132 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:18.440 I mean, so there. I'm trying to think of other celebrity couples, 133 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.440 and it's really not Sometime sometimes Dane Cook's got a big age gap with his 134 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.639 does he Sometimes sometimes it's not celebrity couples. It's more so a celebrity that 135 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.919 found a young, attractive companion because they're rich and famous, you know what 136 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.679 I'm saying. Like, for example, Nicholas Cage is with a woman whose 137 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:41.559 name is Rico Shibata and there's a thirty one year age gap. Well, 138 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.600 I don't mean maybe she's a celebrity in her own right, But that's not 139 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:48.600 a celebrity couple. That's just again like this is probably think about how common 140 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.879 this is for people who aren't famous, you know what I'm saying, Like, 141 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.480 if you just got a ton of money. Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union, 142 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:56.679 there's a ten year age difference there, that's not that crazy. I 143 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.559 mean, that's not that's not that uncommon. Let's see who else. Here's 144 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.200 a really crazy one. Al Pacino and Nora Alfalla fifty four year difference because 145 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.759 eighty three and she's twenty nine. Yeah, I remember hearing about that one, 146 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.559 just because you know it's al Pacino. Is she a celebrity or is 147 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.159 she just you know, I'm not familiar with who she is. Yeah. 148 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.440 I mean, look, everybody's got Dennis Quay, the actor. He is 149 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:28.039 apparently forty years apart from his girlfriend or I guess wife. Maybe. But 150 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.200 if you're happy, be happy, like I'm not. I mean, I 151 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.720 can't relate, but I feel like if it's if there's a bigger if they 152 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:45.679 put it this way, it's not illegal and it's consensual, but if they're 153 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:50.559 genuinely old enough to be your grandkid, or you're old enough to be their 154 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.080 grandfather grandmother. I just there's no way I could ever understand. There's no 155 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.919 way you could ever make it not weird to me. But again, you 156 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.639 know, people are you know, it's not illegal. It's just, you 157 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.320 know, I I'm not like if I'm I'm thirty five, I'll be thirty 158 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.799 six in a couple of weeks. If a twenty three year old and I 159 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.840 had a conversation, I wouldn't know what to talk about. Like I'm an 160 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.879 introvert. Therefore, I'm not somebody that's real chatty with people. I don't 161 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.480 know, you know, I don't you know, I'm not going out on 162 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:24.559 my mind. I'm not real outgoing socially, never have been some of me. 163 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.879 That's why I just, you know, But if I was single and 164 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.679 I ended up on a date with somebody that was, you know, thirteen 165 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.960 years younger than me currently, it's not that I would think that they're beneath 166 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.320 me to where I you know, they're too immature, they're too childish to 167 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.519 even you know, have a intellectual conversation. It's just that I don't know 168 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.639 what we would have in common, Like I don't know what I would bring 169 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.639 to the conversation that you would be interested in. You know what I'm saying, 170 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.720 like, it's it's you know, so hey, I'm sure there are 171 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.080 plenty of people listening that are with someone that is a lot older, a 172 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.440 lot younger than them, and they're happy, so, you know, be 173 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:09.000 happy, live your life. But when you get to be that big of 174 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.759 a when there's that big of a gap forty eight years, I mean, 175 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.960 that's just I don't know. I'm gonna refrain from talking much more about it 176 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.440 because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to irritate somebody 177 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:26.919 who may be in a similar situation because again I can't relate. And maybe 178 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.440 my thoughts are you know, maybe maybe I could be proven wrong that it's 179 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.399 not as weird as it seems, but to me, it seems really, 180 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:39.279 really weird. And I'm trying to think of like my friends, maybe not 181 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.879 even close friends, but just people that I know. I think, you 182 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.840 know, six seven years is not that uncommon. I know people, you 183 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.120 know. I can think of at least one couple that I know that there's 184 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.799 an eleven to twelve year difference, and I guess as you get older, 185 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.279 that doesn't seem as crazy, right, Like when you get to be both 186 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.360 fifty and forty or fifty five and forty, you know, you can probably 187 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.039 still clearly tell someone is younger. But we're talking about a generational difference here, 188 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:11.279 Like this girl who's twenty four dating Belichick. I mean, her father's 189 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:18.840 probably what I mean, maybe fifty, you know, between forty five and 190 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:20.080 fifty five, like that range. I mean, I don't I mean, 191 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:26.000 maybe he's older, but like Belichick's old enough to be his dad. It's 192 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.720 just weird. And again maybe I'm just being cynical. I mean, is 193 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:37.519 she into Bill Belichick for anything other than fame and money? I mean, 194 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:43.279 just because we see somebody coaching in football games for years and they show us 195 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.600 no personality, no really redeeming quality in those settings, right, press conferences, 196 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.559 and I mean seemingly wanting to be perceived as a jerk. I guess 197 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.440 that doesn't tell the whole picture of one Bill Belichick, but I mean just 198 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.159 hard for I mean, this is the ultimate like yeah, yeah, good 199 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:01.360 luck. If you want to convince people that you really thought he had a 200 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.519 great sense of humor and he really man, you've seen this guy. He's 201 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.519 a hunk. I mean, he's he's an old man. Bill Belichick's got 202 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.799 his Belichick. Yeah, I mean, come on, anybody said that yet. 203 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:16.759 I'm sure Vin said, I'm sure it's been said. I like you 204 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.759 falling on it as soon as you said it, knowing it was very corny. 205 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.080 But that's been the theme of the show today. Yeah, I mean, 206 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.240 I don't know. You know, there's some people that are like, 207 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.440 yeah, good for you man, Yeah, get him Bill, and you 208 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.879 know whatever, that's the way you see it, that's the way you see 209 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.440 it. I'm sure you don't give it a damn about the way I think 210 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.879 about it, But I just it's uncomfortable to me. I don't know why. 211 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.840 And I would be more you know, again, in a world that 212 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.759 hopefully will never happen, I would be more inclined to probably meet somebody older 213 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.000 than me than I was younger than me. I mean not that I you 214 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.519 know, not that I know for sure what would happen, and again, 215 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.000 hopefully it never ends up happening. But I just I don't find myself being 216 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.720 someone who the younger generation would be interested in. But hopefully I'll never find 217 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.440 out. All right, let's let's do this. Let's let's hit the text 218 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.320 line really quickly here before we get to our next break. Five oh two 219 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:15.879 six five three zero seven ninety is the L and N Federal Credit Union text 220 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.600 line. This text says, Nick, You've gone on a lot of trips 221 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.919 lately, but any trips planned for the show? I feel like some of 222 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:26.360 the best shows have been when you take the show to a destination. Well, 223 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.559 usually those trips are just those trips are just you know, usually if 224 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.120 I travel for like a you know, we went to Atlanta for the for 225 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:39.279 the U OFL. Georgia Tech Game last year to start the season. That 226 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.960 was fun. Yeah, there's usually some good stories to come with some road 227 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.960 trips for the show. Used to do it all the time in basketball. 228 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.639 It was very very common during the previous you know, not the you know, 229 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.799 pre I guess pre Kenny Payne era. But yeah, no basketball trips 230 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.879 were taking in the last couple of years. So I don't know, maybe, 231 00:15:54.000 --> 00:16:00.320 uh, maybe, who knows, Maybe we take the show on a 232 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.039 road trip at some point, but I don't have anything planned. However, 233 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:10.440 if we get details about this this cross count or I don't know where it's 234 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:11.840 gonna be, I don't know what to call it, but every four years, 235 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.320 college basketball programs are allowed to take a trip to where they can go 236 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.799 to. I mean, Louis has been to the Bahamas, they've been to 237 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.120 Puerto Rico, they've been to Canada. They haven't been on one since twenty 238 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.679 fifteen. Whenever they went to Puerto Rico. That was when that was the 239 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:30.399 year they added Damian Lee and Trey Lewis in that offseason, and they chose 240 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.519 not to take one because you can take it every four years. The next 241 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.960 time it came around, they didn't take it for obvious reasons as to what 242 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.759 was going on with the program, and then with mac here they never took 243 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.039 one. I think they probably had I think they did have one plan, 244 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.000 but then you know, the pandemic got in the way, and then of 245 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:47.799 course nothing planned with Kenny Payne. So I don't know where they're going to 246 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.440 go. But if details come out about that where louisvill Basketball is going to 247 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.399 make a trip, it's probably gonna be pretty tough to do logistically for the 248 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.600 show. But if we could make it happen, they could be fun. 249 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.919 So maybe that'll be our next next road trip. 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If you're not already, again Refreshment 264 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:57.279 Awards dot com or download the app. Just search Refreshing Awards search Thornton's in 265 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.480 the app store and you'll find that it's free and you'll benefit from it. 266 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:04.720 All Right, So we rarely talk a whole lot of you know, high 267 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:08.319 school football recruiting on this show. You know, I know enough to be 268 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.839 dangerous. I keep up with it as much as I can, but I 269 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:18.359 think really portal stuff is going to continue to really dominate the you know, 270 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:21.119 it's not really I mean, I guess it is recruiting, right. If 271 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:25.200 you're recruiting somebody in the portal, you're still recruiting them. But Louisville lost 272 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.519 a player today from the high school ranks in the twenty twenty five class in 273 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:32.480 football, and that is offensive lineman Jake Cook, who had been committed I 274 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:37.839 believe since February and recently in fact, earlier today, decided to say that 275 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:44.200 he was reopening his recruitment. And this is coming off of a recent visit 276 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:45.160 that you know, appeared to go really well. This is what he had 277 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.200 to say. First, I'd like to thank God for blessing me with the 278 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.160 ability to play this game and the opportunities I have before me. I'd also 279 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.000 like to thank the entire Louislle staff for their time and investment in me. 280 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.480 After a lot of prayers and conversations when I'm with my family, I've decided 281 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:03.279 to reopen been my recruitment. So I could be wrong, but I believe 282 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.920 at the time he was committed to Louisville, he was one of Louisville's top 283 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.720 guys in this twenty twenty five class. So he's currently I guess, depending 284 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:18.559 on where you look, he's a three star. Louisville got in pretty early 285 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.960 before he had some you know, some big offers, but he just got 286 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:26.599 a big bump in one of the rankings. He's a four star and will 287 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.839 probably end up being a four star in all of the rankings because of how 288 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:36.359 much momentum he's had throughout the summer so far. So it's a tough loss, 289 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:37.599 right, I mean, you never want to lose recruits that you really 290 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.319 you know, I'm not going to fake take it like I know much about 291 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.880 this guy, like I'm breaking down Offensive Lineman film. But he's somebody Louisville 292 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.160 offered early. He committed, and he was believed to be one of the 293 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.480 best players they have in this class until you know, they lost him. 294 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:57.160 So the belief is that he's going to end up at Ohio State because again 295 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:02.599 he's generated some momentum and I guess an Ohio State offer could be coming. 296 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:07.160 He's from Westerville, Ohio, which makes sense that he would be an Ohio 297 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.079 State fan. So from what I understand, that's what this has come down 298 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.039 to, is that he's reopening his recruitment because he started to blow up a 299 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:19.200 little bit and he feels like he could probably get an Ohio State offer. 300 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:25.359 Maybe he already has it. I'm not totally sure, but I think two 301 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:27.480 things can be true. Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough hell to 302 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.519 take, right. This is a guy that you know you wanted and he's 303 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.319 now decommitted, and all expectation is that he's going to end up at Ohio 304 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:40.559 State. But let me just break this to you. If Louisville ends up 305 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.880 going head to head for recruits with Ohio State on a regular basis, they're 306 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:51.000 going to lose more than they're going to win. That's just the facts. 307 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:55.279 It's Ohio State and he's from Ohio. I'm not saying that you should just 308 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.519 be, you know, happy about it, but when these kind of things 309 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.640 happen, it like questions on the text line on Twitter, what's going on 310 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:10.759 with Louisville football? O oh, starting to fake? Maybe something's off with 311 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.799 Jeff brom And you can have that opinion, like, I don't think you're 312 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.400 crazy or even out of line, but I can't give you fake energy that 313 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:23.920 I don't have as far as being worried, because again, if you recruit 314 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:29.119 players from Ohio and you go head to head with Ohio State for them, 315 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:30.519 you will lose more than you will win. That's just how this works, 316 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:36.319 right. Louisville has, I think the formula in place to where they can 317 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:44.200 be consistently competing towards the top of the ACC and maybe somehow breakthrough and find 318 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:49.079 themselves in the find themselves in the College Football Playoff now that it's expanded, 319 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.599 easier said than done, and I think a lot of it is going to 320 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.359 be dependent upon the ACC improving to where the league could could get the benefit 321 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.640 of the doubt in earning one of those at large spots. But the formula 322 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.759 that I'm referring to is recruit at a pretty good level. Right if you 323 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:11.640 can recruit high school kids in your classes each year are in the range from 324 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.079 you know, top thirty ish to top forty ish, like that's that's never 325 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.039 anything to brag about. Right, But if you're in that neighborhood and you're 326 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.319 developing these players and you're keeping the ones that are turning into really good players, 327 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.240 the guys you really like that are making an impact for you, you're 328 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:32.200 keeping them around because you're having success and you have NIL and then you go 329 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.920 out and you hit the portal. Right, I mean, this could be 330 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.440 a kid and I'm not acting like he won't be good enough to play for 331 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:42.519 Ohio State if that's where he ends up. But there are kids out there 332 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.880 that will go to these schools and maybe be really good. But you know 333 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.559 what, there's eight of them, meaning there's only certain amount of snaps and 334 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.519 reps that can go around. Therefore, you know it was cool, but 335 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.559 you didn't. You didn't crack the top of the depth chart in a couple 336 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:57.160 of years. So then you hit the portal. Then you could end up 337 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.920 at a place like Louisville. Like, I just think that's going to be 338 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:07.640 how programs of Louisville's status really thrive. You're not going to get I guess 339 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:15.319 just not realistic. Pre nil era in post anil era for programs not named 340 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:22.960 Texas Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, USC, Oklahoma. I'm 341 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:26.799 sure I'm leaving off some of them, you know, even Florida State. 342 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.599 You can throw them in there. Clemson, although debo's weird and everybody knows 343 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.160 it now, Like those are the kind of schools that are going to continuously 344 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.279 bring in a class that features more five stars than maybe any other player, 345 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:45.920 any other you know star like fives and fours with eighty five percent of them 346 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.960 being five and four and the rest being three. Like that. That's just 347 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.480 not that's just a different planet as far as recruiting, Like it's just not 348 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.559 reasonable for any fan to expect to be recruiting at that level unless you're one 349 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.160 of those pro doesn't mean you can't win, right, I mean you can. 350 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:04.799 I mean he TCU played in the National Championship Game a couple of years 351 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.920 ago, right, So like it doesn't mean you can't have success. But 352 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.319 I actually think you don't have to worry about that as much anymore because the 353 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.400 portal now makes it to where you can go get a guy that's proven to 354 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.400 be a really good player that you don't have to recruit out of high school 355 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.000 and wait to see if they develop, wait to see if it was wait 356 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.559 to see if the hype was worthy of it. You can then go you 357 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.880 can go get I mean, Jeff Bram is essentially put not entirely new teams 358 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.640 on the field the last couple of years, but a lot of newcomers that 359 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.599 fans I think should be excited about. So you know, again, both 360 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.400 things can be true. I said that all the time. It's a bummer 361 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.720 to see this kid decommit and likely end up going to Ohio State. That 362 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:45.119 sucks. But I can't also act like this means something's wrong with Jeff Bram 363 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:49.519 and his staff, because again, you're gonna lose a lot of battles if 364 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:53.119 you end up going head to head with Ryan Day in Ohio State. You 365 00:24:53.240 --> 00:25:00.519 just are. So I'm I'm not worried, I'm not panicked again, I'm 366 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.920 I'm gonna try to do some tap dancing here because I don't there's no way 367 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:10.240 to say this without it sounding ridiculous. But I kind of think that high 368 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.839 school recruiting is always going to be important, but it's not as important as 369 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:18.680 it was anymore because you can have a recruiting class that flops and yeah, 370 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.880 that's not ideal. It's a bad thing, and you will probably see some 371 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.640 effect of that, But if you do really well in the portal, it 372 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:30.519 doesn't matter as much. It sometimes may not matter at all. So again, 373 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.839 recruiting is still going to always matter. It's going to be important. 374 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.519 I mean, some of the best players I mean right now Louisville football this 375 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.359 upcoming season. I think from a defensive standpoint, there's no doubt about it 376 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:41.720 as far as the guys that you feel the best about, and that is 377 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:47.400 Ashton, Jelatti and Quincy Riley and Ashton. Ashton's a kid who came here 378 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:52.599 and committed to Scott Saderfield and was a two star or three star and didn't 379 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.440 have a lot of notable offers, and you know what, he was developed 380 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.839 and he's turned into being one of the best players in the country. He's 381 00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.839 a preseason first team All American. You know, when he committed Louisville, 382 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:10.799 his offers were Dartmouth, Duke fiu in forlid Atlantic, So you know you 383 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.240 can engen that's you know, I'm not someone who will throw out like well, 384 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.720 Rose Smith was a two star, as if every kid that's a two 385 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.640 star has that kind of a ceiling like those are those are very it's very 386 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.519 rare for that to happen. But I also trust this staff Jeff bromin is 387 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:29.480 staff's ability to develop players, develop talent. And I think the portal makes 388 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.000 it to where I don't get is, you know, it's not life or 389 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.440 death about the high school kids as much anymore. And again I'm trying to 390 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.359 say that without it sounding like all the hell with the high school kids. 391 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.200 Don't even recruit them. I mean, that's not what I'm saying, but 392 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.759 I feel like it kind of sounds like that's what I'm saying. All right, 393 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.960 before we get to our next break here, Uh, let me let 394 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.720 me do this. Let me tell you guys about my friends of the Louis 395 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.920 of Men's Clinic, because they can help you fellas, and I know fellas 396 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.279 dudes, manly men. They don't feel like there's anything wrong with them. 397 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.640 They're tough, they're badasses. It's the you know, it's it's the way 398 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.599 a lot of men are are wired. And it's really a lie. Like 399 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:12.400 every human has ailments. 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You know, everybody's different and there's different things that can 437 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.720 cause that. So look, I'm a proud customer of Louisvillmen's Clinic, and 438 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.279 uh that won't change anytime soon. So Loilemn's clinic dot com. FABO two 439 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.759 four four four four thousand is the number. All right, quick break, 440 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.119 we'll come back here on the other side, keep this thing rolling along. 441 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:51.039 I've got if you're a Louisville basketball fan, I've got something that can only 442 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.680 get you more excited about the chances of this team being pretty damn good. 443 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.359 And Pat Kelsey's first season, we'll get to that. And the I can't 444 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.200 believe he's still in college list is wild to see how old some of these 445 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.920 dudes are playing college football. But hey, I'd probably be doing the same 446 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.880 thing if I was them. Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety 447 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:21.079 so I'll be consistent. I don't think experience is as valuable in sports as 448 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.640 much as some others do. I think it's clearly a value. I just 449 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:30.480 think you know, you know, if you're mentioning one of the factors and 450 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.000 why you feel good about your team you lead with, or maybe it's one 451 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.119 of the first things you bring up, experience, it probably just means you 452 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.480 don't have a whole lot of other things to mention as far as your team. 453 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.640 Now, if you've got experience in these guys and your team has been 454 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.359 successful, then that's a different conversation. But for what it's worth, you 455 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.359 know, experience is valuable. I just feel like you know, talent and 456 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:02.519 you know ability is going to is going to matter more than anything coaching too. 457 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:03.720 Like, you know, experience is valuable, but you know, I 458 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:10.119 don't oftentimes find it to be something that's super valuable. But for those of 459 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.960 you that do feel like it's super valuable, then you may like to hear 460 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.039 this. When it comes to the most experienced rosters in Power five college basketball, 461 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:25.759 based on minutes per game last season, there are only nine teams more 462 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.519 experienced than Louisville. They come in at number ten, So the most experienced 463 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.359 team in the portal or most experienced team in college basketball via the portal. 464 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.960 Usc number one, Xavier number two, UCLA three, Ole, Miss number 465 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.640 four, Washington number five, so DePaul came in at number six. They 466 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.200 also, you know, like a lot of teams have completely rebuilt their roster 467 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.200 with the portal, but Indiana coming in at number six, Minnesota number seven, 468 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.960 Vandy number eight, and Louislle number nine, as I mentioned, and 469 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.720 then Kansas is number ten, and then Kentucky is at number eleven. So 470 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.720 you know, experience Again, I don't want to act like it is is 471 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.400 irrelevant, but I think you can be experienced and still not be good. 472 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.000 In fact, you know there are and you don't see it as much anymore 473 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.519 because now guys leave or they get the they get the nudge to leave and 474 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:16.079 hit the portal. But you'd have a guy that would be you know, 475 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.599 decent as a freshman, slightly above decent as a sophomore in a bigger role, 476 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.839 and sometimes you would see a big jump, but then you know, 477 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.079 sometimes you'd see the same level of jump and it's just a mediocre player, 478 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.599 and you well, he's gonna be a junior now. I mean, you 479 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.599 know, you just never know, right, and sometimes it works out like 480 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.400 There's mean, there have been plenty of players who made a huge jump heading 481 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.319 into their sophomore year their junior year. So yeah, for what it's worth, 482 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.599 a lot of the local teams around here. In fact, all the 483 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.680 local local teams are in the in the mixes being some of the most experienced 484 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.799 in college basketball. Next year, I'd like to see a list that shows 485 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.279 n C DOUAA tournament experience. Yeah, so I feel like that a good 486 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.400 one could be a little more valuable when it's all said and done. And 487 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.519 for what it's worth, you know, Louisville they're bringing it. And I 488 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:06.680 think it'd be a stretch to say that this team that Louisville has this year, 489 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.160 with Pat Kelsey's first season, has a lot of tournament experiences. If 490 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.920 they've been battle tested, they've been in the second weekend, because that's not 491 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.519 the case. However, I think just being a part of a team that 492 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:21.039 has consistently made it to the tournament or you know, made it last year, 493 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.200 I think that that's valuable. I mean that shows that you have been 494 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:30.160 in a culture and been you've been a you've been a contributing factor in the 495 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.000 success of a program that has a winning culture doesn't mean, you know, 496 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:39.359 the Louisville's destined to be great. But everybody on this team outside of two 497 00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.759 players, played in the NAA tournament at one point in their career. In 498 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:51.200 fact, everybody so Case and Pryor did not make the tournament last year at 499 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.440 South Florida, but they won their league. I mean he won. I 500 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.079 mean, there was a good story last year with USF having that monster season 501 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.640 in year one for coach Abdul Raheem. And then also Washington didn't make the 502 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.599 tournament of the PAC twelve. That's where Corn Johnson came from. And then 503 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.480 frank anselom Ivy did not make the tournament last year when he played at Georgia, 504 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.519 but he did he was on on a Syracuse tournament team early on in 505 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.639 his career. So yeah, I'm with you, John. I think that's 506 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.599 more impactful than anything else. And I think even you know, it'd be 507 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.119 great to see somebody who's been there and gone deep. But just the fact 508 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.840 that you've been a part of a winner is you know, is valuable, 509 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.239 especially given the fact that you know Louisville. I mean again, it doesn't 510 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.480 matter because everybody that was here last year's gone but these are guys that it's 511 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.840 all new to him, and they're you know, there's probably gonna take some 512 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.519 time for them to all for you know, for you to really see what 513 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.039 this team could look like as far as potential. But the fact that they've 514 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.559 all been a part of winning at some level throughout their career, most of 515 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.519 them even last year, I think that's a good sign. All right, 516 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:51.519 let's take a look at the I can't believe he's still in college list because 517 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.800 it actually happens to feature some local players. And let's see here is this 518 00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:00.440 going to do what I think it's going to do. I'm a I'm a 519 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.400 proud customer of the athletic, and I mean that's sincerely just great work being 520 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.440 done at the athletic. But I don't like that I get prompted to enter 521 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.119 my password every time. But anyways, here we go. I'm in. 522 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.280 We can now check it out. So Cameron Rising, he is a quarterback 523 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:24.239 at Utah his first season of college football twenty eighteen. I mean, that 524 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.679 would make him twenty four years old. It's wild, it is wild. 525 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.119 Another quarterback Oklahoma State, Alan Bowman, his first year of college football, 526 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:40.039 also twenty eighteen. So His first college start came as a true freshman for 527 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.559 Texas Tech in September of twenty eighteen. He would then go on to start 528 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.519 sixteen games over three years, before spending the next two seasons as a backup 529 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.960 at Michigan and then last year he moved to Oklahoma State. We're in week 530 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.000 two. He earned his first college start nearly three years and eventually led the 531 00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.599 Cowboys to the Big twelve championship game. It's actually a pretty cool story. 532 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.960 A guy who you know, didn't start for three years and then gets the 533 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.960 nod and keeps it rolling. Dylan Gabriel. I mean, I feel like 534 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.079 he's been in college forever. He's still back at He's at Oregon now. 535 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:14.480 He's transferred from Central Florida to Oklahoma, now to Oregon. He played his 536 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:20.000 first college snap in twenty nineteen, and then sure enough, no real surprise, 537 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.880 Tyler Shuck. He's also a guy who started his college career in twenty 538 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:28.000 eighteen. And I believe he's just turned twenty five, or maybe he just 539 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.719 turned twenty six, which is crazy to think about. But you know, 540 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:37.079 here we are the other players. Let's see here. I'm trying to find 541 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.840 guys that have some you know, some local interest here. Oh, this 542 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.880 is a guy who was at Louisville now is not, and that is Jermaine 543 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.760 Lolay, who if you remember, you know he was. I mean this 544 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:52.840 a guy who when he was at Arizona State I think it was. Yeah, 545 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.360 he started his career at Arizona State under HERM Edwards. He started his 546 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.599 college career also in twenty eighteen. So this is a guy who we're talking 547 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:06.360 about six year seniors here and they're still playing in college. And I'd probably 548 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:07.679 be doing the same thing if I could, because you know, why not. 549 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.119 It's an experience that I'm sure you'll cherish forever as a college football player. 550 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.360 And you can make money now, I mean you got to keep in 551 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.960 mind. You got to keep in mind Jermaine Lowlay. You know he was 552 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.760 because of his early success as a as a defensive end or defensive tackle. 553 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.119 I mean, he's somebody that he's somebody that still is viewed as a guy 554 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:35.039 that could help you. So if you remember, he committed to Oklahoma out 555 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.760 of the portal when he left Louisville and then flipped to Texas. So yeah, 556 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:45.360 he played for the Raiders' current head coach Antonio Pierce at Long Beach Polly 557 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.719 and then followed him to Arizona State when he was there for his first year 558 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:53.239 under HERM Edwards. So I mean, imagine the road that you know, 559 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.239 Pierce has been on to make his way to being the head coach of the 560 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.079 freaking Raiders. Well before that all started, he was, you know, 561 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.440 coaching Jermaine Lola, who, by the way, is still playing college football. 562 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:10.480 It's crazy. So, I mean, just because I don't recognize some 563 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:15.440 of these names, doesn't necessarily mean that it's you know, doesn't necessarily mean 564 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.679 that these guys aren't aren't you know, high level players that could really make 565 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:21.880 an impact. But you know, I feel like if you if injuries are 566 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.239 in the way, that's one thing. You know, I'm sure that's you 567 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.079 know, that's a lot of these guys are probably getting a six year because 568 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.639 of an injury, to be honest with you, and that makes total sense. 569 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.840 But you know, some of these dudes are just old dudes who don't 570 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.960 want to, who don't want to, who don't want it to end yet. 571 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.280 And I don't blame him, you know, if you know, if 572 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.480 you know you're not going to the NFL, why not stay around in college 573 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.679 and you know, ride this thing as long as you can. I'm trying 574 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.400 to see if there's any Indiana players on here. I don't aware of any, 575 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.719 but one guy that came to mind. I feel like you talked about 576 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.400 this guy a couple of months ago. Isn't there a really really old dude 577 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.159 who's playing for like Miami or somewhere down south. Oh no, it's it's 578 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.840 the guy who. Yeah, he doesn't fit with this because it's different. 579 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.079 It's more like an eligibility. He was He was an MLB player, Okay, 580 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.960 got drafted out of high school. He was a four star recruit. 581 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.920 He's older than you. Yeah, and he just signed with Arkansas. He's 582 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.760 a baseball player, played in the major leagues for a few years after spending 583 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.519 a lot of the time as a minor league player, and he walked away 584 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.920 from baseball last year and Arkansas signed him. So yeah, it's crazy. 585 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.960 And two, I mean there are I mean, some of this has got 586 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.800 to be like a publicity thing. The oldest college football players ever, a 587 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:42.519 running back in twenty sixteen named Joe Thomas Senior, played at fifty five years 588 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.679 old. I'm gonna have to look, yeah, so these these are all 589 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.920 real small schools. But apparently, yeah, there's so the kickers. That's 590 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.719 that's what I was forgetting. There are kickers who come over from Australia that 591 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:59.960 are grown ass men, like currently Colorado and Virginia's current kicker are thirty five, 592 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.719 four and thirty three years old. Oh my gosh, I mean they 593 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.960 got eligibility. All right, don't go anywhere. 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