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Everyone. It's two day May the
tenth, twenty eleven, and you're listening

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to the Giant Bobcast. I'm your
host, Ryan Davis, joining me the

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original quartet, Vinny Caravella, Jeff
Gerstmen and Alright Shoemaker. We arelody.

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I'm not melody, and I was
just saying I was just saying I was

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melodizing the band names, right,
harmony talked about this harmonizing thank you,

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uh simonizing. I was, I
was vulcanizing your harmonies. I feel galvanized

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to make them more shooted for the
road, going to euthanize this whole podcast.

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Keep going. It's gonna keep it
alive. It's gonna let it ship

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up its own back, have to
change its diapers, down the legs,

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into the shoes, filling up those
hard shoes, just like bedbugs. You

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just gotta throw the whole thing a
yeah, Like, what do you do?

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You can't salvage any of that podcast
covered feces again, welcome to there's

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an acceptable amount of feces you can
have in a podcast before the government steps

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in. Though so I think we're
I think I think that's specific to rat

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feces. I think if there's any
trace amounts of human feces. Know the

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right people. Podcasts grease the right
palms with shit. It's effective for they

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will leave you alone. Yeah,
I don't shake that guy's hands ever,

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ever, again, ever, again, stay away from him. I thought

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I was getting greased at twenty five
minutes of just noise, Betty Caravella,

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this podcast is longer than twenty five
minutes. You can't fool me. Now,

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that's just the warm up. Now
we're up, Now, we're in

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it. Now, we've got our
We've done our vocal exercises, vocalizes.

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Shake the flam out? What are
you doing getting a flame out? You

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lose the work. I don't know. I made that up. Your next

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all red now, so don't cheese
podcast effective for that? Hey, how

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you doing doing all right? How
are you doing? I'm fantastic great.

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I had a great weekend, you
did. I did not much because I

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was in La for the the Alimas
Gallery show, uh for for the jury

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the weekend. Although I did manage
to squeeze in a little bit of gatling

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gears, but I can't really say
anything about that right now. Yeah,

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we'll have a quick look up on
Wednesday. But probably a review this week.

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I'll probably play enough of that to
review it. So it's it's actually

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the follow up to Greed Corp.
I don't know if you remember, remember

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that for Xbox Live Arcade it's like
Assault Heroes but slow Okay, uh yeah,

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Dual Joystick Shooter, Yeah, shares
that same kind of designs that it

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could set in that same universe,
even what platform, Xbox Slide Ricade and

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others. Okay, someday it will
be available on the PlayStation network. They

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were. I think they're even still
planning or rolling out like a week later

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on PlayStation network anyway, Yeah,
I think I think they did. They

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did say that date to us,
but I wonder if that was them saying

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like it'll have to be up by
then, right, Like, it's not.

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We know it's not gonna be up
next week, so we'll plan for

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the following. I can't wait to
the news section to find out what's going

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on in the PlayStation Well, you
know, we'll just jump ahead PlayStation that

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we're still down hold on check in. Yeah, I can't, can't.

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We can't start cannibalizing our bits from
other shows. Why not? We need

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those for the other shows can't start
dull so so many Caravella. Yeah,

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how you doing doing? Okay,
tell me about yourself. Uh, it's

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weird. I should I should note. I should note for the home listener

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that today is video Caravella's birthday.
That's right. Today. Today, finally

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is the double digits. Today's the
day they come take my eyes. That's

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it. That's it. It's like
Logan's run style. They put a little

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tracker in it and that went off. Yeps, and now now the youth

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police are coming. Knew shame put
a hairline for twenty three. Huh well,

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congratulations to making it to the ripe
old age of twenty three. Thank

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you. Yeah, I have my
eyes checked out. I don't have macular

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degeneration. That's good. Yeah,
contrary to the pms and stuff that are

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we're gonna and the retinas people were
sending me. Oh well, so yeah.

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I think last week Brad said something
about macula and the only application of

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that term that I know is macular
degeneration. My grandma has that. It's

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really bad. She can't see anymore. Yeah, that's bad, but you

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would know because it starts like right
in the middle of where you look.

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So it's a weird thing where like
for a while as it's happening, you

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can see like out of your peripheral
still, but if you actually try and

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look directly at something, you can't
see it. Which I can't imagine this

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more. I imagine being just fucking
fully blind is better than having that kind

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of vision in the middle of your
eye. Yeah, uh no, I'm

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fine, good, And it should
clear up on its own in a month

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or two or three. So something
that's what the doctor says, fluid got

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in like my retina or something.
Did you ask what kind of fluid?

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Uh? I know. Yeah,
I was gonna say, yeah, if

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you're taking shots of vodka through your
eyeballs, he said that would clear it

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up. But I don't want to
or make me forget about it real fast.

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Yeah, well Smith Norman Channing here, it's weird. It was weird.

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It's still a weird thing because I
still see it. But but yeah,

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having somebody tell you that it will
go away is it's just a nice

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thing. You just kind of then
you just kind of enjoy it. It's

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like a temporary weird thing, like
it's not the generative, it's not hopefully

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you know, I have to check
back in. I have to go back

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and see it and make sure it's
going on. I mean, there's a

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chance it won't go away, but
but it's not like a symptom. It's

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not. They're like, oh,
that's that means that your dick's gonna fall

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off in ten days. Well,
I mean, dot's not go that far,

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but it should go away. How
do you know it hasn't already?

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Why would you see that happy birthday? You guess what jest for you?

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There you go. I just said, dick in a bottom. We have

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to pay Lauren Michael's seventy five dollars
every time anyone listens to this podcast.

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It's just you've ruined us the lonely
out island. I'mas out today. So

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I think we just get off the
saying it's just sponsoring. Uh yeah,

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so that's good. That's the eyebawl
thing. Yeah, thank you? So

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how is that? Obviously it's it's
can you kind of do you want to

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talk about describe the thing? Well? I will. I will say that

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for those I got a lot of
very heartwarming support emails and n pms and

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stuff. I'm fine, I really
am. Uh, it's a weird thing.

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It's just like a it's almost like
a blind spot, like right right

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in here, right in the eyeball
area, which is as you can imagine,

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it's kind of frightening when you it
doesn't go away, so it's like

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it's like somebody snapped a flash real
close to you and that thing never goes

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away, that part where you're just
like I can't shake it out. Yeah.

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She originally described it as like a
weird like afterimage. Yeah, and

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then it started it started changing.
Shit. You know, it makes sense

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because it's fluid in there and it
starts changing shape. So it worked from

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its perip my periphery into like my
main center of vision. And that's so

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I've gone to the doctor. You
guys might remember like a couple of weeks

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ago, and then when it moved
into my central field division is when I

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that day, I went back to
him and I was like, dude,

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let's find out what this is.
This is what did it look like at

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that point? Yeah, it was
a circle, and then there's like a

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tangent coming off the circle, like
take the shape of the Virgin Mary or

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I was kind of thinking like maybe
I'm seeing a ghost a sign because it

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now it's weird because it's it's like
this blind spot. I mostly see when

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stuff changes really quickly, Like if
I moved my hand quickly in front of

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my face, I could see it. So it's almost like, uh,

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like my eye, my retina is
on like a little bit of a delay,

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like a split second delay before the
picture clears up again. Right,

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the frame rate's not right, it's
not right. There's at Yeah, I

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need a reference signal. Yeah,
I can't capture too, it's too many

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reference frames. That's the turn off
hardware acceleration. Turn it off in your

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player. By the way, I
turn off harder acceleration your player if your

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video of stutters during the live stream, or if it's stutters on the site,

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that seems to be the key.
Right click on the trash you're not

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helping. Sorry, Uh, it
worked for Melissa. It seems sporadic.

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I might actually resolved itself without that
went away on its idea, Brad's find

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your computer's messed up. I installed
a new version of flash that they have

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helped. So anyway, Yeah,
so that's kind of what it is,

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and hopefully it should be shrinking or
going away on its own and up.

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They said it could be a little
subtle, uh vision change. I wouldn't

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say a loss, but make it. It would be like a superpower,

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I don't think. So you're gonna
have like X ray vision when this is

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over, because so I'll get to
this when I talked about what I was

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playing. But so I'm color blind
already, right, and when I ab

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my eyes, the you know,
it's fluid there and I think it's like

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viscous a bit. So the color
there's a tint on it, and it

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doesn't help make everything actually much worse
because now I'm starting. It makes the

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blues kind of and that's where my
strong point is, my blues and yellows.

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Right, it makes that a little
worse. So anyway, my eyeballs.

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So how has I mean, has
has that affected your ability to enjoy

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VIGI games? Because you know,
pretty visual medium? No? No really

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no, just can't play any three
D games for the time being. Yeah,

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so take care of what have you
been playing? Man? So since

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last week? You're ready? Yeah, there's some stuff. So I made

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it through Gem and I RU which
we did a quick look up, played

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through that great fire a gun in
that game that ended up staying good.

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Then yeah, start my start style. Yeah, so you get this like

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weird adventure game fire a gun mode, which is completely weird, so you're

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you're actually like real time shooting a
gun and going into cover. Weird in

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an adventure game. But yeah,
the whole game is like point and click,

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like inventory style. Yeah. Yeah, so you get to this point

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where you're using like uh as W
style controls to hide behind cover, pop

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out, shoot a guy and you've
got like a meter that you can that

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fills up and you can get it. You get like a head shot and

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kill him in one shot. It
happens like four or five times in the

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game. But it's cool. It's
interesting. That game is fun. Back

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to the Future beat the last latest
episode moving damn now now I'm now,

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I'm behind. Now I'm reaching my
It's almost over. I'm yeah, I

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know, I know they've got one
of my episode left, but I'm reaching

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my Like, I am far enough
behind in that series that I done might

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not be able to catch back up. They're very fast, seem to be

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getting shorter. Last it's so good, I are You said the third one

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was great, and you weren't feeling
as excited about the fourth one with the

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cliffhanger from that is that where no, I think that was second one was

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second third, because now this was
just the third was exciting. And then

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you said you finished the third one
and you're like, Adam, fourth good,

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fourth one solid. Yeah, it's
good and we're ready to wrap it

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up, which is cool. Uh
And then I guess Jurassic Park at some

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point pushed that back to the fall. Yeah, so yes, at some

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point some are still correct. Finished
Dragon Age two, great going on,

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Yeah, that's finished, all back
in find the last little Nope bits all

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done, got them all finished?
Playtime, give me playtime? Oh I

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don't even know. I just I'll
click click, click, auto attack credits

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roller like, all right, I'm
out. The ending. The ending is

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that of that game. The whole
the whole finale of that game is just

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a series of people making the most
unfortunate decisions you've ever seen in a video

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game, and for a role playing
game, it's the worst. Just like

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what the fuck are you doing?
The world be like why would you do

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that? I don't know, because
this thing end of the game, that

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guy's gonna do something real stupid about
two minutes too, Like, what are

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you doing to know? Everybody,
stop, that doesn't justify your bad decisions.

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We'll check it out and like it's
just terrible. So it's just like

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all these weird contrived fights at the
end of the game for people just being

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like, you're doing the stupidest thing
in the world right now, Why would

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you? I don't know. And
then it's at the end very end of

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the game, it's it goes like
and then he was never seen again or

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was he? Was he? We
don't know, because I'm not sure if

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we'll get to make a Dragon Age
three. They'll definitely make a Dragon three.

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If you were to put some sort
of star rating, I don't know,

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five on that game. It would
be between I would give my anger

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at Vinny over continuing to play this
game. Five it's probably somewhere it's really

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id to sit down and think about
him in my head. Would be between

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like a three and four. It's
somewhere there, and we don't do have

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stars, I know, so I
really have to sit down and kind of

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think about it. That's that's higher
than I thought you would have said.

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Yeah, like the four, four
I feel like would be generous. Yeah,

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three probably seems about right. Two
is too low. I mean it

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still is a pretty good Yeah,
I don't know, it's just such stuff

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about that game just gets under my
skin. Might and magic Clash of heroes

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up here. It's beat that nice
fantastic did you really? Yeah? Not

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a short game. Not a short
game. I think thirty something hours in

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the good lord. Uh, it's
great. It's a fantastic game, maybe

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in my top top one of my
top games of the year. Siver read

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out of Seam like, I mean, it's the same core kind of puzzling

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stuff, but you get you change
units, you change factions so much that

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you're you're basically relearning everything and they
do this, yeah, and they do

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this really smart thing. By the
time you get to the last faction,

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they basically each other. When you
start at like level one, you're like,

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okay, hear the core units.
I'll start to move up. Last

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one is just like your level seven. You understand everything already, Like you

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don't even have to buy units anymore. Just give you all of them.

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You're gonna play this last faction for
like I don't know, a couple of

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battles, and they're like, great, fantastic because I understand what's going on.

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It's it's smartly done. Some stuff
I would still nitpick on it,

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but it's great. Everybody should check
it out. Everybody, And you know,

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pretty significant value for a delatable game
like that. Yeah, if I

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can keep your attention. And I
know it was it was out on DS

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with like two years ago, so
people have probably already checked it out.

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If you haven't check it out,
Oh no, it's you know, cheaper

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on xpur kay than at least when
it launched down. Yeah, it fifteen

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Okay, it's fantastic. And music
is stuck in my head because it's the

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same song for the Well then there's
also like the completely redone art and all

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that jazz and all that stuff.
There's voice acting. I don't think it

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was in the DS. The load
times are the worst part of it.

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The game's got kind of crazy load
times for sure, that's the worst.

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That's the worst part of it.
And the frequent that's the main thing.

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Yeah, And and it seemed like
so at the end of the game,

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they show cut scenes of like you
know, Bill went on to be a

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lawyer and like Jack, and in
between each one of those it's a loading

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screen. You're like, they must
have not figured something out. In there.

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I wish everything you just said was
true. I wish that there was

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a character named Bill in there.
He's the main bad guy. They actually

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just stream like a YouTube clip of
the ending of Animal House. Ye freeze

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frames and everybody. That's it's weird
game. So maybe, so let's let's

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talk achievements here, let's talk clean
up on that stuff. Achievement wise,

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I'm missing like four Okay, that's
it. Yeah, you do wind up

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with a lot, or you know, half of them, at least the

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multiplayer ones, three multiplayer ones,
and the hey bring one guy's entire crew

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up to level five. But there
was like the like going back and hitting

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specific it's easier than each season,
well at least for me. Yeah,

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it's easier to go back and do
it. But I did it mostly in

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everybody's campaign, but were pretty easy. They tell you there's a little pop

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up that says you beat everything here, like great, fantastic. Uh.

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And then I started playing some New
Vegas again, like from scratch. No

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no, no no, but it
was really hard to get back into Where

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where were you I don't know,
I don't know in New Vegas, I

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don't know. But you had not
you had not finished it once before already.

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No, No, okay, like
I said, like three podcasts ago,

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I should go back and I forgot
all about it. Yeah, I

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don't. That's tough. I don't
know. That's I mean, that's a

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that's a that's a pretty tough game
to like walk away from for a stated

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period of time and come back.
Can expect no idea what's going on to

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Yeah, like any of the story
threads I had had that experience would fall

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out three and yes, it's impossible. It's really hard and plus it's just

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a lot of shit going on.
Yeah, you forgot everything that was going

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on. You forgot where everything is, like it was aligned with not no

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one where to go in those games
is like the death knell, Like you

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can't get past that because it's so
big. I think I might just might

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not like that game that much.
It's just something like something about it.

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I think it's I don't know if
it's the bugginess or whatever, or just

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like not even that the game itself
is really buggy. It's just what it

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is, and like something about that. I gotten to this point yesterday where

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I kept walking to a room and
it just I would explode, like somebody

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would set off some mine or something
like that, and you know it saves

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after each door, so I just
reload and I would just explode and I

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would just reload and I just explode, and I'm like trying everything I could

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to not yeah, and I just
couldn't do it, and I had to

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reload this other save. So like
stuff like that just kind of makes me

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feel like I really want to finish
this game, but you're making it so

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hard. You still have that save. Uh, it was an auto save,

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so i'd probably saved over it at
that point. Yeah, slowed that

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up, make a loop. Yeah, just just scream that out for a

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boom boom. And then it was
like I was supposed to find this guy,

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but I guess I had already done
something so that when I went to

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go find him, he was just
a corpse that was just laying there and

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I found him. That mission's done, and like it kind of just sucks.

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As I told the guys, like, I'm gonna find your but I'm

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not gonna plates I'm gonna find your
man kill this guy first, and I'm

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gonna find your guy. And I
go and I kill that guy first.

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This guy Motorhead or something like that, and it sounds like a fall on

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him. Yeah, he's the leader
of the Fiends and I kill him and

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I'm like, I'm gonna find you
guy now and he's dead and oh no,

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no, no, you're you only
no, yeah, you leave it

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up if you're going and going after
the fiends. But that has to be

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like a like way disconnected, like
much earlier decision. When I found the

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dude he was it was dead and
smoked I had. I found him in

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a corpse of dude, so he
apparently tried to get out of there and

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didn't make it. I feel like
that might be just like a set piece

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thing, like that's how that missions
because I couldn't find him, and then

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somebody they don't you know what.
I actually had an incredibly hard time fighting

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me as well, because it's one
of those it's it's crazy making with the

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mapping system in that game where you're
not sure if it's pointing you toward a

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door or a door or like I'm
supposed to find an entrance and then from

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there the you know, the map
will continue with it's like oh no,

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that it's pointing me towards where that
thing should be in the world, but

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I'm just standing on top of it. The actual door to it is like

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eight miles away. Yeah, that's
some of that stuff can be really frustrating,

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very frustrating, very so. Anyway, I spent some more time in

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these pitfalls of a big ass,
you know, open game like that.

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So what I didn't play, Yeah, that's my new segment. What I

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didn't play was a hector. I
did not play pack Man. I did

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not play Moon Patrol. Here we
get sued. I'm just saying. I'm

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just saying that you didn't play I
didn't play Moon Patrol. But there you

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go. Somebody played. Somebody played
Moon Patrol. Uh, and I kind

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of wanted to play Hacktor and I
just I don't know. So it sounds

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like you're already adventure gamed up between
Back to the Future and what's what you

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call it Gemini. Also, what
I didn't play Crisis Too, which I

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just kept looking at and being like
I should buy this, and then it

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was like the Crisis sale and the
EA thing is going on. Oh God,

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I'm meant to let you know,
did you see it the Crisis text

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you about that? Yeah, but
I don't know. On Saturday, do

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you have Warhead. Yeah, okay, Uh, but Chrisis two and never

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went on sale, not surprisingly,
and I was kind of waiting for it

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to be, like, all right, you knocked ten dollars off of get

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some Crisis too. They never did, so you didn't buy Crisis. Tendnt

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buy Crisis too? But I want
to, but I didn't. Well,

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they want that ten dollars, so
I don't know. Stalemate, Yeah,

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call me. You're at an impass
between you and E. Let's work this

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out. Let's where we'll figure something
out. I will because I played through

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Crisis and I've got me all Crisis
stuff and war Uh. But yeah,

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anyway, that's it. I can
keep going on. And I didn't play

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It's a long list. We'll stop. That's gonna be Why don't we change

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the segment too? Did you play? Did we ask you games and you

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tell us I guess I start?
Did you play Might and Magic Clash of

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Heroes? I did? I win? I win? Oh wow, I

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am the best of this game.
I'm just gonna amid all that stuff up.

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Damn it. So now, yeah, that's that's the new game is

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you have to talk about several games
convincingly. So one of those one of

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the games we didn't actually play,
all right, which which these stories right

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in is bullshit. So Hector was
awesome, this great part a couple of

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things that don't. So yeah,
you gotta be able to bluff your way

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through it and hope that the other
that's that no one else played that game,

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so they know. Wait, he's
bullshitting because I know that part,

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and that's not true at all.
I got to point E in forty seven

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seconds, So feeling pretty good,
pretty good about my Moon patrol experience.

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But I jump back into Flower,
have some good times with that. Jeff

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Gershman, Hello, video games.
What about them orange shirts? We want

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to know. I can tie them, and I am accredited expert on both

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of these things, except with the
orange shirts. That's shirt your words,

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Hello Orange's the weather outside is great? It is great. That's no,

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that's play a good reason for an
orange shirt. I don't need a reason

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to wear an orange Also, I
don't need a reason to wear no orange

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shirt. You have coffee on the
bridge of your nose. That saying I

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don't need no reason to wear an
orange short shirt. I don't need no

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reason to wear an orange shirt.
Also, you have coffee on the bridge

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your nose, I'm just freestyle over
here. Oh Moon Patrol, Well yeah,

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we'll put the Moon Patrol beat under
this, all right, okay,

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good, yes, and that'll be
the your high concept rap. That's my

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one, Zoe JERUSI pitfall is my
nose is too big to hit, which

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kind of just flip it and it's
fine, just flip it all the way

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back. It's fine anyway, Americans. Also, I played some video games.

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What sort of video games did you
play, Jeff, Let's see.

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Did you play a class based first
person shooter? Yeah? I played dark

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Spot. Oh you played some dark
Sport? Yeah, what'd you think of

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that? I just talk about an
hour into that. Yeah, I don't

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know that I'm gonna play anymore dark
Spore. It just it's okay, it's

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okay, Yeah, I mean,
you know whatever, it's it's you know,

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I had nothing to nothing to lose, nothing gain. Yeah, but

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it did not hold my attention,
uh past that first hour. It's like,

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okay, I kind of beat like
one to one. I was like,

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okay, I kind of see what
kind of game this is. And

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I don't really like the way the
editor works, the way you equip stuff

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onto your guys, it doesn't what
don't you like about it? And it

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just doesn't feel I don't know,
it didn't feel like it was giving me

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enough good feedback about what I should
be doing there and switching between your guys

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is in the editor is a little
more cumbersome than it than it probably should

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be. And I don't know.
If you eventually get one hundred dudes in

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that game, I could see that
pole process being completely crazy. Yeah yeah,

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and they now have four dudes.
I'm already like, wait, okay.

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Also, they all look like crappy
monsters, Like they all look like

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garbage. That looks like garbage.
I don't I don't like the way that

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any of the the you know,
the doctors look at the beginning, made

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to look like they were made in
the Creature Creature Creator, But none of

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them have any like of what actually
made Spore cool. Like none of them

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animate or or like seem like lovable
or lifelike in a fun way. They're

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just like, I'm yet another claw
beast. Look at me, man,

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I'm like a crawfish, but now
I got legs and I'm gonna stab everybody

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with this hammer. That what got
a blade on the back of it.

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So none penis monsters. Yeah,
basically, like I want, I think

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it's it's a it's a horrible mistake
that you don't create your own dudes in

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that game that you start from,
like they're kind of ideal, like like

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you start from one of their creatures
and then yeah, okay, you picked

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up some eyes and these eyes are
plus two to something and you can put

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them on between levels. But just
the default looks for the guys, at

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least those first four, it's all
stupid. I didn't like the look of

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any of them. They all look
like space bugs in like the in a

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in a like, but they look
at evil space bugs. If you get

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to the next rank, there's a
spider, yeah, exactly, Like there's

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I want fun loving space faring odd
balls. Then you need the game not

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called Dark Spore. I guess yeah, like that they kind of there,

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I guess they do. They kind
of let you know, Rut of the

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Bat. But it is more dark
than Spore. That is it is.

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It is not it is. There
is not a lot of Spores where it

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comes first. I want Dark yeah, yeah, perfect spot dark yeah zero

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because it's a prequel, takes place
before Spore, yeah, so that we

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don't have to pay will write any
money for this smooth, Yeah, think

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about it. Yeah, I don't
know. I mean, I feel there's

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some neat stuff in that game when
you're actually playing it, But I just

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it's a competent like Dungeon Crawler,
and you know it's got Luton. You

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know you're running around these kind of
surreal environments. But I see what you're

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saying, if you had kind of
star rating on it between one and five,

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I don't want I'm not gonna put
numbers on games. I played for

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an hour, I played three.
I played it more than Jeff did.

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And uh and Brad, you sat
in on that quick look and I feel

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you like like once I was on
that, I'm like, yeah, I

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god don't want to don't. I
don't. I'm not chomping at the bit

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to come back. I'm like,
yeah, I kind of feel like I

405
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.839
know what the trajectory of this game
is gonna be. Of like I'm gonna

406
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.319
go to more Space dungeons and five
more Space monsters. And I wonder if,

407
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.640
like if story ever enters into it
again, or if it's more just

408
00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.559
premise premise. It sounds like it
gets awfully repetitive, so probably yeah.

409
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.599
I mean by the end of Yeah, by the end of like editing my

410
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:03.279
guys for the third time, I
was like, yeah, I kind of

411
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.720
don't want to do I don't want
to do this anymore. Yeah. And

412
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:14.359
it does the thing where you know
each character levels depending on use. Yeah,

413
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.400
so I could very easily see you
get into a situation where it's like,

414
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.720
well, I'm now fighting way nastier
enemies. So this guy that I

415
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.000
barely used, I'm never gonna bust
him out because he will just die.

416
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.599
Well, it's what it's, you
know, they kind of expect you to.

417
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.279
It's yeah. I think it's why
they put a chat channel, like

418
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.839
right in the main menu of that
game, like almost Command of Conquered four

419
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.160
style of in terms of this is
a this is not an MMO, but

420
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.079
we're going to connect you to some
chat anyway, because they probably just want

421
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.160
you to should be playing this with
some dude. Yeah, you should be

422
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.640
playing this with some dudes, and
you should be grinding the same worlds over

423
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.319
and over again, but with dudes, because that makes everything fun, even

424
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.960
if it's super repetitive like that.
I think that's that's probably the core idea

425
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.200
about the game, and there are
people in the in that chat channel going

426
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.000
like who wants to chain World nine
with me? Like? Who wants to

427
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.319
sit here and do all the World
nine in one go? Let's do this?

428
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.680
Like, I don't it means you
have to get to a World nine

429
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.279
first. Yeah, I mean I
don't know. Maybe I maybe I could.

430
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.759
I don't know. Maybe maybe they'll
let you invite. I don't know.

431
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.400
I probably would get ripped up.
But I've not touched any of the

432
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.559
online stuff that second anyway. Yeah, so it seems like that they are

433
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.680
expecting people to play through the same
content again and again with you know,

434
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:19.680
different groups of people, and so
you know that there's your opportunity to level

435
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.400
up your under used heroes as it
were. But but yeah, I don't

436
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:26.359
know. It's like I said,
I only played it for an hour,

437
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:32.359
so obviously not a full, full
opinion, full view on that game.

438
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:36.440
But it definitely is not a game
I expect I will return to. Is

439
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.839
there something in the story called like
the dark Spore or something? Yeah,

440
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:44.200
okay, yeah, the enemies you
fight, all everything, every enemy you

441
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.799
fight is dark spore. All these
dark spore because they've been mutated by some

442
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.720
kind of crazy DNA. They spend
a fair amount of time in the beginning

443
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.920
of that game, like the fiction
and like who you are and you're a

444
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:03.680
progenitor, yeah, because you're prived
antically frozen progenitor, the progenitor or the

445
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.200
projector so so okay, that's where
I got confused, because they were saying

446
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.200
progenitor at a point, and then
they started saying progenitor, yeah, specifically

447
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.000
about you. I guess right,
I guess yeah. But they were put

448
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.480
to sleep while AI computers researched a
way to stabilize the crazy mutant DNA that

449
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:25.640
you could use they hate more heroes. It extended? Is it extenditor enhanced

450
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.400
enhanced? I forget, I forget. It's where do you load your sound

451
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:37.599
car drivers? I Q seven dotis
load equals high. But yeah, they

452
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.400
spent a lot of time setting up
this fiction about how there's this you know,

453
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:45.279
the race of creatures that you know
went around the universe and created life

454
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.200
on all these planets, and then
they started making e DNA. But then

455
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.599
the E DNA went rotten and that's
what created the dark spore that murdered a

456
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.279
bunch of the universe. And so
now they got to try and stop the

457
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.640
dark spore and you're the last of
the progenitors. Wow, it happening to

458
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.519
everybody else slaughtered, but they're like
five. You know, a bunch of

459
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.880
ships got launched off and you're one
of them. Okay, and I imagine

460
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.480
that all of your multiplayer buddies are
other other ones because you're just it is

461
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.960
literally like like almost command of Cocker
style, like you are controlling the guy

462
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:17.599
these guys from your ship from somewhere
else. So it's just like tying into

463
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.640
this actual spore thing, Like are
you are you a progenitor being like a

464
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.359
spore maker? No, I don't. I don't think it really necessarily ties

465
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.920
into spore at all, other than
we have this technology laying around, let's

466
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.400
use it to make guys that look
dumb. Also, there's ip O.

467
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.000
God, what do we do with
this? Is like Gundam wing style alternate

468
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:38.240
right, Okay, So yeah,
I played some of that, played a

469
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:45.200
little bit of Cargo. I like
how you're dancing around the cargoes. Weird,

470
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.079
you're avoiding the issue here. I
played a little bit past where we

471
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.319
got in the quick look of Cargo, and then I don't know that I

472
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.920
want to. I don't know that
I'm equipped to play anymore cargo. Does

473
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.599
it change much? Are you still
just collecting? Still just collecting stuff?

474
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.119
Yeah, still kicking guys to collect
fun. And so did you get to

475
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.960
the race stuff that Brad was playing
during the happy hour? Yeah? And

476
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.079
that's that's also where I kind of
was like, I don't know that you

477
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.359
lost it there. This is maybe
a little too rushing for you. They

478
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.519
carry you know, she just moved
so slowly. She's plods around that island.

479
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.640
And you know, granted, you
eventually get vehicles and you know,

480
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.000
build different stuff and you can move
around more quickly, but I just wish

481
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.640
that if she just ran faster,
I think the entire experience, the entire

482
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.920
startup of that game anyway, would
be a little more enjoyable. But even

483
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.000
then, that's ah, it's pretty
weird. Played some gatling gears. I'm

484
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.039
gonna say there's other What was what
was came out last the week before that?

485
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:47.599
Download wise or something? I'd it
was an Outland? Was it?

486
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.119
No? I guess I didn't play
a ton of Outland. I should play

487
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.079
that. I was gonna say that
you should play that. Vinnie should pay

488
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.680
it seems like something you would like. Yeah, there's something else, something

489
00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:01.279
I threw a code at you for. Yeah, sank them the week before.

490
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.640
Is that it's a couple of weeks
ago. That's a couple of weeks

491
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.759
ago. That's one of that game's
cool. There was some other downloadable game

492
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.680
I don't know. I downloaded Metro
twenty thirty three. I'm gonna try that

493
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.279
out here pretty soon. Nin Jump, yeah, nin Jump. But yeah,

494
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.480
then I also played a whole bunch
of Brink. Yes, that's out

495
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:25.319
this week's out this week, that's
damage today, blue Box. And I

496
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.680
don't like Brink. Okay, Yeah, it's uh why don't you like Brink

497
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.079
because I don't think it's a very
good game. Why don't you think that's

498
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:39.920
that's an acceptable reason? It's uh, well, I mean, well,

499
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.000
first we want you to go down
the list here. Do you want me

500
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.359
to say which I should probably started? What is Brain? That game was?

501
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.559
Yeah, I think a lot of
people did you know? It's it's

502
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.200
like when I go back to the
first time we saw Brink. Were you

503
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.519
there for with me for that first
demo? It's like Darth Grade, Yeah,

504
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:07.279
class trip to the interview in that
really tiny room. Yeah, it

505
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:13.160
just drew that was with me,
that Munich Olympian. I don't remember it

506
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.599
looking that much different than in office. Yeah. I think it's just that,

507
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.720
you know, it's when you see
what that game actually is. So

508
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.960
the way that they spun that game
is, you know, yeah, it's

509
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.680
gonna have this campaign mode and you
can play it and you need to complete

510
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:30.000
these objectives. But you know,
we're gonna really try to incentivize incentivize people

511
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:35.799
to play the campaign with or against
other human players. And you know,

512
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.480
it'll come up and say like,
hey, you know you can get more

513
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.359
experience for for doing this. When
you spin it that way, it's like,

514
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.559
oh cool. So it's like,
you know, I can play this

515
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.440
whole campaign and then enhance it by
playing against people. But where it breaks

516
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.559
down is the campaign is the exact
same thing as the multiplayer, but with

517
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.759
bots. If you if you don't
allow people into your game, and the

518
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:58.240
bots are terrible. So uh it's
you know, the bots do stuff like

519
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.839
so I'm interacting with a terminal to
capture it or or whatever other bots will

520
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.359
or or I'm you know, planting
an explosive on something. It's it's an

521
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.000
action that takes time you're interacting with
an object and you're out of combat,

522
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.920
you're watching a bar fill up.
Yeah, other bots will run up behind

523
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.199
you or alongside you and just keep
running in place, like up against the

524
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.719
object, like they're trying to capture
it too. Yeah, like they don't

525
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.360
get that, like, oh,
you're doing this, I should turn around

526
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:30.000
and cover your back. The only
bought action that feels like remotely decent is

527
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.960
that if you go down, medics
will find you and revive you. It's

528
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.519
like bought medics, which is more
than I can say for the human players

529
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.079
encountered while playing Break. I was
gonna say it kind of begs the question.

530
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:43.079
It's it sounds like this is intended
to have, you know, highly

531
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.840
integrated online you know, kind of
multiplayer in the single player, single bucket

532
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.480
style. Yeah, and you know, any experience, any experience you gain,

533
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.960
goes into you know, building your
character, whether it's offline against bots

534
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.960
or online. You get like fifteen
percent more experience points if you're an online

535
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.480
game, even if you you have
that online game set to private, so

536
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.920
they're all bots. So you know, so when you say when you say

537
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.719
in a single player campaign, it's
it's not it's just it's practically map selection.

538
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.639
I mean they lay out some missions
for each it's it's two there are

539
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:19.559
two factions, the rebels and the
Security Forces or whatever resistance, and they're

540
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.679
basically like eight missions per side.
But there are you know, eight maps

541
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.360
in that game, and you know, each can be played two ways depending

542
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.960
on which faction you are. So
it's kind of like the same thing as

543
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.920
the multiplayer, like exactly is there
a narrative or sort of, but that

544
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.400
that narrative also comes up in the
multiplayer because it's really just like twenty seconds

545
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.960
of guys talking before the round starts, Like you know, it's like cops

546
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.760
on a train. It's like what
are we doing here again? It's like,

547
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.679
oh, the rebel leader did this
stuff and we need to stop them.

548
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.239
So if we stop them, that's
it. It's done. Yep,

549
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.440
let's stop. And it's like these
aren't named characters that you care about or

550
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.199
anything like that. It's there's no
like real narrative other than you know,

551
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.519
you kind of learned sort of at
the beginning that the rebels want to try

552
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.599
to get off this island. Can
you be the rebels? Yeah, yeah,

553
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.480
at the beginning, and you can
choose at either point. I mean,

554
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.519
this is how like little went into
the campaign. You can pick any

555
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.320
mission in it anytime you want.
It's not like you have to propose to

556
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.199
the end. It practically is just
map selection. So it sounds like you're

557
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.960
playing offline instead of playing a single
player campaign exactly. But even then,

558
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.880
you can open those games up to
humans and still get your like campaign progress

559
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.599
checkbox checked if you win that match, whether you're playing against humans or not.

560
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.000
So it could be like just a
random yeah, mix of that,

561
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:45.199
and so could My understanding this is
that also in that scenario where you're in

562
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.239
the single player and there are live
opponents on the opposing force, could they

563
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.760
also be going through their campaign I
don't know, or are they going at

564
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:59.280
multiplayer or like, so where does
that split start? It'll probably be less

565
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.920
of an issue that the game is
out there, But to like give you

566
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.840
some indication as to how confusing this
is, the publisher sent out like a

567
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.480
lengthy document saying how to find games
with humans. Uh, you know,

568
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.239
granted it's you know, it's before
the game was out or whatever, so

569
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.000
you know, it's it was not
as easy as it will be when when

570
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.920
theoretically people are buying the game and
filling out the different modes, but there's

571
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.880
no like quick match button or anything
like that. Like even the free play

572
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.280
mode, if you don't get matched
up with humans, there are still boughts

573
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.840
there. So it was like this
sort of thing where you're like, well,

574
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.440
wait a minute, like you you've
in the campaign mode. You're splitting

575
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.679
it like twelve different ways or something
like how am I going to find humans?

576
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.920
So they, you know, I
wrote, I wrote back, it's

577
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.239
like, hey, how does how
do I find people? Because they had

578
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.840
sessions for the review, like like
you know, everyone meet up at two

579
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.280
o'clock and I was like okay,
So I looked at the menus and when

580
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.920
wait, what do I need to
do? So I tried all the different

581
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.039
options and never found humans and finally
wrote in and I guess everyone must have

582
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.480
done the same thing, because then
the next day they sent out this this

583
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.360
like screenshots of the interface. Yeah, which that can't be a good feeling

584
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.239
when you're like, oh, because
that's the information that will not be in

585
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.760
the final game, right, did
it seem more? Did it seem okay?

586
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.079
Once they got back to you,
like oh okay, No, even

587
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.800
even once you get into the game, it's not explicitly clear if people are

588
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.039
human or not. Oh, it
doesn't ever, it doesn't. I mean

589
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.880
you can go into the scoreboard and
look at the names of the enemy team,

590
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.440
but the enemy team names only show
up in like the death messages.

591
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.679
Otherwise they don't show up over their
heads, So you kind of have to

592
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.519
go look and see, like,
are these humans are not? Like,

593
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.800
what's what's going on? Did player
name play player names of people on your

594
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.239
team show up over the over their
heads and stuff? But you know,

595
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.280
it was such a sort of situation
like I don't know, you know,

596
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.840
maybe these humans have just gamer tags
that just are hernandez or you know,

597
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.599
it's like obviously they don't go for
the like silly like online names in the

598
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:51.039
box. No, okay, No, it's not like Lost Planet. Yeah.

599
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.960
I think it's a similar kind of
issue with Lost Planet, where like

600
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.280
you can't really pause the game in
a lot of cases because it's it's always

601
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.559
sort of OnLive. Yeah, I
think I thought it was going to be

602
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:07.119
more like was that was a geist
we were like people could jump in and

603
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.920
be the bad guys? Is the
most recent example of that. I think

604
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.880
that's what I thought, Like it's
a single player campaign and like occasionally they'll

605
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:16.960
be multiplayer guys. It's just kind
of I mean, what it what it

606
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:22.039
really is is it sounds like this
is almost almost anachronistic throwback to like eight

607
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.719
or ten years ago when stuff like
Battlefield nineteen forty two and Quake three was

608
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.719
coming out where it was a multiplayer
only game, except when you're able to

609
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.519
play by yourself, you have.
What it really is is it's the next

610
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:36.519
enemy territory game, right, which
which grew directly out of that are right,

611
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:37.880
yeah, and that kind of and
and these are the guys that made

612
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.079
those enimey territory games and and a
lot of the way the classes work and

613
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.079
who can disarm what and who can
plant what, uh kind of comes directly

614
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.039
from those games. And they still
have that stopwatch mode that they kind of

615
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.159
you know, came up with for
for those modes as well. So it

616
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.920
really is just this class based,
team based multiplayer shooter. But and the

617
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.000
guns just aren't very fun. They
give you a kind of a lot of

618
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.559
weapons, but you're kind of left
looking at these bars going like, okay,

619
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.920
well, rate of fire is slightly
less, but is it less enough

620
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.199
to matter? And do I get
more AMMO for this gun than this gun?

621
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.320
Like, they don't let you compare
weapons one to one. The most

622
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.239
they give you is that when you
add attachments to the weapons, they you

623
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.639
know, the bars change, so
you can kind of see like, okay,

624
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.719
this increases rate of fire but lower
stability a little bit. I guess

625
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:29.440
I was expecting and hoping forward like
a Meteor single player experience. Yeah,

626
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.719
this is this is not that.
And you know where where that whole philosophy

627
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.480
kind of breaks down is. You
know, we've entered this era where we're

628
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:40.920
starting to see downloadable shooters that are
multiplayer focused kind of coming along with similar

629
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.079
amounts of content. You know,
you put this up against something like Section

630
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:49.079
eight Prejudice, and I don't think
Section eight is is a great game by

631
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.320
any means. I think it's got
some some pretty serious issues, but it's

632
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.480
kind of doing its own thing and
that's you know, cool in its own

633
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.960
way, and for fifteen bucks,
and for fifteen bucks not sixty, right,

634
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.760
So this game just feels like an
incredibly poor value because the team is

635
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.960
not four times Section eight Prejudice.
No, no, not not in the

636
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.199
least it's it's you know, if
anything, if it feels like roughly on

637
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.199
par but you know, it's it's
just the guns don't feel right. Like

638
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.800
the grenades just feel like like the
green expulsions look like m ads going off,

639
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.159
you know, and and they just
kind of knock players down. Are

640
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.599
they even doing any damage? I
don't know. I've maybe killed one person

641
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.239
with a grenade the whole time I've
been playing the game, because usually it'll

642
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.519
just knock people down and you can
go up and finish them off instead,

643
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.800
and that's that's kind of how you
get your kills. And it's the weapons

644
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.920
just don't feel meaty, Like the
sound isn't great for him, the stability

645
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.840
of the fire just doesn't feel all
that great. Like it's it's hard to

646
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.480
know which weapons are going to be
the good ones just from the stats.

647
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.119
So you kind of left like shot
trying out a bunch of different ones and

648
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.760
it's going like, none of these
feel good. But it's the first it's

649
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:54.239
first person, and there's the park
course stuff in it, Is that right,

650
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.119
or just jumping over it's jumping over
boxes and jumping up ledges and stuff.

651
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.679
So sliding, yeah, so if
you hold down the run button,

652
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.920
you will automatically vault over low cover, so you know that you'll see a

653
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.760
hand to hand stick out and you'll
you'll leap over something. Or if you're

654
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.840
kind of looking up at at a
ledge as you run up to a wall,

655
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.840
you'll if it's a low enough wall, you'll jump up and grab it

656
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.760
and scramble up on top. And
there are body types, so if you

657
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.119
pick a heavy body type, you
can't do that as well. If you

658
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.519
pick a light body type you can
do it much better. Are be able

659
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.960
to does it in practice workout?
Or are people just shooting you as you're

660
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.920
trying to climb up? People just
shooting you as you're trying to climb with

661
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.760
the walls and stuff. And usually, like the action is so centered around

662
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.599
one specific area because there's really only
one objective going at a time that you

663
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.239
know, you're running up to these
firefights, getting these firefights, so it's

664
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.639
really just you're holding out this button
to get where you need to go as

665
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.840
fast as you can. Yeah,
and you know, if there's crap in

666
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.920
the way, you deal with the
crap without having to run around it or

667
00:42:53.960 --> 00:43:00.360
hit the jump button right, otherwise
you're just either dead or hiding behind something.

668
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.360
It's a neat idea that doesn't really
factor into actually play that game that

669
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.639
well. Yeah, from from what
I've played of it, you know,

670
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.760
there's some areas that if you're a
light body type, you can mantle up

671
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.719
and get get up higher than than
a normal player would be able to.

672
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.559
So theoretically maybe there's some sniper spots
you could find that way. I haven't

673
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.159
really found any any situations like that
where where it was a huge benefit.

674
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:27.159
But yeah, you can kind of
climb up on top of stuff, and

675
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.480
you can kind of jump over guardrails
and banisters and that. But I guess

676
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.639
are there there must be game modes
where you're like capture the flag or something

677
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.239
where you're running away something. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's it's there's

678
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.239
not really a game mode in this
game. It's like each map has its

679
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.440
objectives. So it'll be like,
in this map, this team needs to

680
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.360
guard this giant robot as it rolls
across the level, and if it gets

681
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.079
damaged too much, engineers need to
repair it to make sure it gets to

682
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:53.559
this certain point. If you get
it all the way at that point,

683
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.000
you get more time on the clock
and it moves on to the next objective,

684
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.199
which is like you need engineers to
repair this crane, and then the

685
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:01.519
crane picks up the robot and brings
it over this other side, and you

686
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.119
need to guard the robot again,
and then it eventually tears open this wall,

687
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.800
and then there's an object in there, which is basically a flag equivalent,

688
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.800
and you need to take that flag
to somewhere else to win. So

689
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.079
it's like all these objectives in order. It's kind of disturbing that those objectives

690
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.000
are fixed on each map and there's
only eight maps, right, there's only

691
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.320
one style of play, Like yeah, kind of kind of you're gonna burn

692
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:23.519
through the content, yeah, and
like you feel, like I said,

693
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:28.199
it feels very light on content.
It's like eight maps is a decent number

694
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.960
for a multiplayer mode in a full, fully featured shooter, but when that's

695
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.400
all you've got, that's all the
assets and and that's all there is to

696
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.039
see. Like it was one of
those things where like after my you know,

697
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.719
first kind of full day with it, I was kind of digging through

698
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.440
the menu's going like, well,
there's gotta be I mean, there's gotta

699
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.599
be something else in here, Like
what's it going on how many folks on

700
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.239
maximu amount of map sixteen eight on
eight? Yeah, I hat that seem

701
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.519
a little this seems a little content. I think it's a I think it's

702
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.719
a higher playerccount on PC. It
might be if that's the case, Okay,

703
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.000
Yeah, we haven't seen We've only
seen the three sixty year so it's

704
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.360
you know, almost you almost wonder
if they did the Game of Disservice by

705
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.199
not providing the PC version ahead of
time. Yeah, I would. I

706
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.920
would have been really interested to see. I mean, we will definitely I'm

707
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.000
interested to check out the PC version
and see kind of if it came out

708
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.960
any better. It seems like they're
at least it's just like more shooted for

709
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.559
that platform, even I mean it's
not not not even the platform maybe so

710
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.880
much as the audience. Like it
seems like that exactly, Like I mean

711
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.719
it's a follow up to Enemy Territory. Yeah, Like it's it's another one

712
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.079
of those games. So it's like
they for for everything that they've tried to

713
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.320
do to kind of maybe strip that
down a little bit and make it more

714
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.480
appealing. I feel like they haven't
done anything with that regarding you know,

715
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:44.119
it doesn't have vehicles like like Quake
Wars did or anything like that, So,

716
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:45.840
you know, maybe a little smaller
game, but it's too bad.

717
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.119
I always really like to look at
that game. But the art is cool.

718
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.559
But in game, I think even
that looks a little grimy, like

719
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.840
like some of the textures and stuff
don't look awesome. Sure, it seems

720
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.320
like a lot of character customization is
just kind of lost, like you just

721
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.320
don't really get a chance to see
it. You don't have time to really

722
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.280
look at your guy or any of
the other guys that closely. But there

723
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.079
are a lot of character customization options, and I think the art style where

724
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.440
the guys is really interesting. Yeah, it's got this this kind of very

725
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.280
stylized, really stylized cool look.
Also lots of British voices, Yeah,

726
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:22.719
a lots of British voices, and
they talk all the time. It's it's

727
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:29.559
it's ethnicities. It's annoying. Yeah, five minutes left, brothers, I'm

728
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.320
going for the objective. Man,
he picked up the briefcase. You know,

729
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.679
it's just like, yeah, and
in any objective where someone needs to

730
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.599
pick up an item and bring it
somewhere, it's always like I'll take the

731
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.679
item. We dropped the item.
They were turning the one we picked up

732
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:50.599
the item. Good. Yeah,
this item. I've been looking for that

733
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:54.840
item, thank you. Uh yeah. So you know, those guys just

734
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.960
talk way too much. You can
opt to have that come out of your

735
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.360
headset. It's fault if you want. First time I jumped on a time

736
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.440
that comes out of both for me, really, when you plug it in,

737
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.639
I just immediately as I jumped on, it is like you and this

738
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.239
other guy were talking and all of
the bots yet of that all jumbled into

739
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.679
the headset. It was just super
disoriented. Yeah, which we Yeah for

740
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.239
a game that you probably want to
be chatting with your teammates while you actually

741
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.480
play, Like all that stuff was
super annoying. So you guys have seen

742
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:24.000
this game for like five years,
right, like seven seven years years and

743
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:29.679
two years and like a month ago. Yeah, so a lot of ideas

744
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.599
summer that the Hustle was big.
Yeah, that's every summer. Does it

745
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.039
Does it look like the conclusion of
what you guys saw during that development?

746
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.360
Well yes, because everything that they
said about the game is totally in there.

747
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.119
Like you can hold down this button
and vault over stuff and they do

748
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.880
give you an experience point bonus for
playing with people. It's just that it's

749
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.159
the way it's implemented. It's just
that it's totally another enemy territory game like

750
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.480
like that. It's yeah, it's
so, I guess the question is like

751
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.199
if you were crazy about fucking enemy
territory, Like, is this gonna appeal?

752
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.480
Like, I don't really know.
It's it's hard to say because,

753
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.320
like I said, it is kind
of a smaller game than those games were,

754
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:13.719
and and I think that there probably
will be some people in that audience

755
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.400
that that gravitate towards something like this
because it is similar but at least it's

756
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.400
sort of new, but because it
has to be the draws, Like someone

757
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.800
out there knows that, okay,
splash Damage was developed these games. Was

758
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.360
the draw though? Don't you think
they would be trying to capitalize on that

759
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.719
as much as possible? Like,
at no point have they really I'm saying

760
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.519
that, Well, there's a difference
between what the publisher thinks the draw will

761
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:42.360
be and like who the actual audience
is. Yeah, I don't really know.

762
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:47.519
It came out early, didn't it
a week? So maybe they needed

763
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:51.760
that next week? You know?
You know what I just realized, if

764
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.280
it had come out at next week, what else is coming out next week?

765
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.679
Granted, you know, maybe not
a lot of overlap in the audiences,

766
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.760
but still and maybe suggesting this was
pushed up to get out of the

767
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:06.079
way, I don't know, and
maybe PSN would be back up by then.

768
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.800
Say who can so you want to
talk about like a bad version of

769
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.280
that game? Man, it's the
PS three version right now, which I

770
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.920
haven't seen it, but that's a
shame. Thoughts are terrible. That's all

771
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.199
you got, And that's all you
got, Like, come on, like

772
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.280
you don't want to play Brink on
the p S three right now? I

773
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.800
mean that that situation is enough of
a boondoggle that they put out a statement.

774
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:30.960
Yeah, they effects said, yes, we are still going to ship

775
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.800
it, like they know how how
gimpt the functionality is going to be without

776
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.159
online That's that's a I think they're
just screwed, Like they don't really have

777
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:38.960
a choice. So you're gonna end
up with a bunch of players that are

778
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.000
already high level by the time it
comes out, because getting to the maximum

779
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.199
level is not difficult. I mean, I guess if they are dedicated to

780
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.880
it or or it's going to be
a situation. Well, you're you'll have

781
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.480
a lot of people waiting for PSN
to come back up before they buy it,

782
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.119
and by that point of feeling,
word of mouth will have kind of

783
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.639
spoken. Yeah. So I'm on
a parap phrase here from an email that

784
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.440
we received on this this topic,
Like, do you do you think that

785
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:08.079
like bait? You know, these
licensees for for Sony to make PS three

786
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.559
games, you know, they are
paying money to put games out on this

787
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.760
platform, and are you know,
expect certain things to be true about you

788
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:21.440
know, functionality of that platform.
Yeah, and you know are anticipating you

789
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.039
know, that stuff to then impact
their sales, and you know they are

790
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:30.159
the whole business is predicated on fucking
PSN is works and people can play their

791
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:34.000
games online. Yeah. Uh,
Like do you think that these companies could

792
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.639
like sue Sony for damages on this
stuff? Like what? Like, I

793
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.719
mean, we don't, I don't
really know what the contracts between third parties

794
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.320
and Sony even look like if they
if there is that guarantee of an expectation

795
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.880
or you know, or what it
is, I don't I doubt it.

796
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.320
I mean because you know, we
we we see like kind of the at

797
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.920
least at this point, vague talk
of you know, make goods from region

798
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.239
to region to consumers on on PSNS
stuff. For that, Sony's gonna have

799
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.400
to figure out something for developers,
so like that, especially PSN specific developers.

800
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.000
I mean, it's like the pixel
junk guys were coming out and saying

801
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.079
like, hey, if you want
to buy a T shirt, that'd be

802
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.800
great. We need to eat.
We have no money coming in right now.

803
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.239
Yeah, we're getting you know,
emails from people saying like, we've

804
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:20.199
got this PlayStation Mini ready to go. We're supposed to be out by now,

805
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.199
but we can't launch it yet.
So yeah, yeah, what happens

806
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.000
when it finally comes back up?
Do they release like twelve games in one

807
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.400
week? I don't know. I
think they have to rejigger the whole release

808
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:31.719
schedule, I guess. So kind
of go from there. Didn't have much

809
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:35.719
like you know, kind of good
will for fans, being like it's free

810
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.199
weeks, thanks for coming back,
and then like, sorry, devs,

811
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.599
we give away all your stuff for
free. I'm not gonna give away well,

812
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:43.920
Sony wouldn't pay those developers, like
if if they did anything for third

813
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.840
party stuff, they would have to
like twenty four hours all you can eat

814
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:52.079
twenty four hours, just download as
much as you can. If it's anything

815
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.519
like the old PSM would be about
three things. So those awesome speeds,

816
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.800
it sounds like it will be an
incredible thing. And then when you actually

817
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.800
get it online interactions may change or
what's the SRB thing that always comes up

818
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.800
before you go online, Your online
interactions may vary or whatever. Yeah,

819
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.519
we're not be existent. Maybe that's
like in the rider for when they signed,

820
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.320
like well what a signing with Sony
mean, well you get this,

821
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:15.519
this and this, this is all
subject to change. You know, we

822
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.920
can't guarantee the system speck so you
know, we can't guarantee this. It's

823
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.719
like it's right there says you signed
it. It's like talking about the fucking

824
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:24.840
network. That's a good point,
you know. It's it's we don't know

825
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.039
what the specifics of that stuff looks
like, but I'm sure they're hurting.

826
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:36.199
Yeah, everybody involved that Christians Fencing
from Capcom has definitely aired his grievances.

827
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.639
Said hundreds of thousands, if not
millions of dollars being lost, then that's

828
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:45.800
just for Capcom. And granted they
put out more downloadable games than the average

829
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:50.360
large publisher. Well then also,
you know the fighting games is very online

830
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.440
focused, like you know, you
can't play Yeah, I think everybody from

831
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.159
right yeah, all that, all
that DALC stuff. But even just like

832
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.519
oh if if right now I was
going to go and buy you know,

833
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.079
I fight a game, Well,
I'm not going to buy PS three version

834
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:08.519
of right Super Speet Fighter four or
NBC three so anything or anything. Yeah,

835
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.360
yeah, I went and pre ordered
to three sixty copy of La in

836
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.039
Noir despite the three DVDs versus one
Blu ray thing, all that online lairs

837
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:21.480
even even well, what if if
they're getting well, I'm getting it is

838
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.239
that they're talking about there is going
to be platform exclusive stuff for the PS

839
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.320
three in La in Noir. I
don't know if that's gonna be on the

840
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.239
disc. I don't know if that's
gonna be a code that I have to

841
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:32.480
punch into PS N So yeah,
hedge, my bet on the system that

842
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.480
I know is fucking up and round. I wonder if I mean that is

843
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.400
a three disc game. I wonder
if it's gonna end up being like the

844
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:44.800
fortsa situation of install them all adults
swap or if they're gonna just go traditional

845
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.800
discs effect style. Yeah, nobody
else has done that. Nobody else has

846
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:52.079
done that yet, it'd be nice
if they did. Yeah, so I

847
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:57.440
here see what the fuck that game
is? Yeah for sure. So,

848
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.800
yeah, I played a lot of
brink review. Hopefully be up by the

849
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:04.519
time you hear this. I guess
If not, this should be pretty good

850
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.519
jumping off point. Yeah, and
there's a quick look up as well if

851
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.280
you want to see a bunch of
it. Yeah, I'm trying to think

852
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.199
if I played anything else, I
feel like I did. But it's yeah,

853
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.320
it's it's been most it's been a
lot of brink and yeah. But

854
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.880
yeah, that that PSN stuff is
is is really crazy. I mean you

855
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:28.079
think about like there was that Infamous
beta test was like running or whatever wasn't

856
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.079
that wasn't It was like like for
testing out all the user created missions,

857
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.519
and now no one can get in
that. Like, games that are in

858
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.199
development are being impacted by this as
well. It's not just the people that

859
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.000
are uh, you know, trying
to ship things and sell things today,

860
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.559
it's the people that are testing the
stuff that we're gonna be playing this holiday

861
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:49.440
season. So this stuff has impacted
the developers specific yeah, network as well,

862
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.960
and crazy. It's uh like that's
where it starts to get really crazy

863
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.000
because you know it's it's what impact
is it going to have on the stuff

864
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.719
that's coming out in November if they're
not able to test this stuff now or

865
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:02.800
if they're you know, there's this
is kind of develop this kind of game

866
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.760
making time if you're looking for holiday
release, yeah, and especially it is

867
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.599
demo polishing time if you're getting ready
for E three. Yeah. So if

868
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:15.360
you've got if you've got an online
only PlayStation three game that you're gonna be

869
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.559
showing it at at E three.
About your fucking hate in life right now,

870
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.840
your listening to podcasts going like I'd
be doing work if I could.

871
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:28.639
Man, especially, I can't decide
if I'm super excited for or just need

872
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:34.079
to close my eyes during the Sony
E three press can't. I can't tell

873
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.440
if it's gonna be awesome. You
can't joke your way out of this one.

874
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.400
So you can't. You're gonna have
a trade full of people that's like

875
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:45.440
waiting for you to fucking prove anything
at all. Daggers at the stage like

876
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.960
Jack Trenton, you can't just come
out and act flip about this. I

877
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.119
see. I think I think I
brought this up like two weeks ago.

878
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:52.199
That's how long this has been going
up. If there would be a mention

879
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:57.880
of this at E three, you
it's it's snowballs. So now that it's

880
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.599
like two weeks later and that ship's
still going on, I think at the

881
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.360
time I said yeah, and I
still think, yeah, there's there's a

882
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:06.800
flip joke about it. That's this
is way too serious, dude, I

883
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.039
think there's a joke about it.
I mean it's like I don't think.

884
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.840
I don't think network up time.
You can't. You can't joke about it

885
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.559
because the whole like, the whole
point of that presentation is like strong,

886
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.920
look at the future of like based
on our current kick acidness, look at

887
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:29.320
the cool stuff we're gonna be bringing
you in twenty twelve. And importantly it's

888
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.280
a joke about it is to just
like ship on the huge number of people

889
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.719
that have been inconvenience or fuck over
by this. So maybe you spin it

890
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.840
Internet like we we went back and
were stronger than PlayStation Network is stronger and

891
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.960
more secure than ever. It would
be crass for them to go out there

892
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.280
and be flipping about it. Do
you think Microsoft makes a joke about it.

893
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:51.079
Yeah, there's one sentence of like
and our network works, you know,

894
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.760
yeah, but it's you know,
meaningless crap like that. And Nintendo

895
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.760
says like, see, yeah,
it's bad. We knew that, we

896
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:06.280
could that it doesnt seem so stupid
now, huh yeah, I know,

897
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:13.599
put the tinfoil over your Windows Project
cafe. Uh. I don't know.

898
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:15.679
I still think Jack makes some kind
of joke about it. They bring Kevin

899
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.519
Butler out and fire him. That's
right there, you go like he's the

900
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.400
fault man, make him be the
fall guy. Maybe Kevin Butler makes the

901
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.800
joke and that's how they get around
it damaging their core brand because he's kind

902
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:29.880
of a goof anyway. I don't
know. I feel like Kevin Butler might

903
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:34.400
be done. I think that thing
is run his course, but I don't

904
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.800
expect them to know that just yet. He didn't have the little kid for

905
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:39.639
the PSP. Yeah, he did
it about as well as the PSP to

906
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:45.719
Yeah yeah, oh damn, dishing
on the I. Although I guess PSP

907
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.239
still you know, selling Gangbusters in
Japan, right, Yeah, sure,

908
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.880
that's why Sony thinks we should do
more PSP stuff, right, Freshmaker,

909
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:59.440
They'll have so much MDP stuff to
cover at that press conference anyway that you

910
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.119
know, it's it's they're gonna have
plenty of thing of cool things to talk

911
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:06.280
about. But I really think before
you mount into the like here is the

912
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.559
future. Yeah, I think they
I think they open with like, all

913
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.960
right, especially, I mean,
you know, right now they're saying we

914
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.519
expected to be online in May,
which then some you know, that led

915
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:20.079
to a lot of stories of like, well it'll be back up May thirty

916
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.320
first, or like they have there's
May thirty first deadline, and then Sony

917
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.559
said like, no, no,
no, no, we said sometime in

918
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.920
May. That's it's not anything sooner
than that. We hope, like you

919
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.280
know, or something like that.
Well, the weird thing is like they

920
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.440
kind of their response to the interpretation
of the statement made it sound like it

921
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.079
could go either way. It sound
like they're like like, no, no,

922
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.360
no, we're not like we're not
saying the guaranteed is going to be

923
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.280
the thirty first, but that's the
window we gave. Yeah, it's it

924
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:49.159
might be like their response almost made
it sound like, I mean, could

925
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.440
be sooner or could be wayl imagine
if they didn't have full service restored until

926
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:53.760
the end of May. If the
week before you three, you know,

927
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:58.920
then it's you know, I think
the the amount of time that gets devoted

928
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.679
to this situation in their as conference
grows as the days tick on. Yeah,

929
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.320
it's probably more of a news item. But have they basically said what

930
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:10.159
the hell's going on? Have they
kind of just I mean's just destroyed holding

931
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:14.159
everything, you know, like the
scratch like have to like I don't know,

932
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:19.280
but what did they do? The
old stuff didn't work, the old

933
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.280
stuff let bad people. A lot
of it's just extremely speculatives. It's a

934
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:29.760
long time. There's a lot of
speculation and you know, perhaps semi informed

935
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.239
speculation about the technical side of it. I don't think any of here are

936
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:37.880
equipped to talk about what exactly happened. But the hackers hacked it, and

937
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.880
Sony couldn't unhack it, so they
had to make a new one. So

938
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:45.000
you think it'll come back and be
different. I don't know that the surface

939
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:46.880
at all, not to you.
You don't think it comes back. And

940
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:50.239
they're like, well, al,
we took some extra time, and I

941
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.119
don't know, we figured this would
be cooler, like we went back and

942
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.480
like trophies work. I think I
think they just need to get that ship

943
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.719
up and any sort of functionality as
god damn quickly. You need to be

944
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:05.480
able to purchase stuff on the PlayStation
store as soon as humanly possible. If

945
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:07.280
that's what's kind of weird or makes
it seem so odd, And that's why

946
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.559
I asked it is like, wouldn't
you just maybe just roll stuff out in

947
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.159
stages where it's like you can play
that. I think that's that was the

948
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:15.719
plan, is that it was going
to be a stage. Well maybe the

949
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:20.639
store stuff. Yeah, they were
saying, like the movie and music stuff

950
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:27.679
might be rolling out ahead of the
like the full functionality. So maybe they

951
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.800
are trying to to stage it in
some way. But to my knowledge,

952
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.719
all the PlayStation network is still down. It's crazy. It is at least

953
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:40.760
open up home. That's where the
hackers came from, down the neighborhood,

954
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:44.960
don't forget, you know, Sooe
also still affected by all this stuff as

955
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.880
well. So oh that's right,
Like you know that universe online that's just

956
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.559
back up, though, isn't it. Or I don't believe so, well

957
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.880
not if you if you have the
PlayStation version right of DC. Well,

958
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:02.599
yeah, you you can't play version
at all. But but I know they

959
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:07.079
are rolling out like they make good
plans for soe stuff. So that's happening.

960
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:12.679
Bread Show, make any caravel top
with the top of those cheese yawns

961
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.920
talk to them about the game.
Oh my god, I my mind did

962
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.639
a backflip in the middle of that
conversation. I don't know if you noticed

963
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.639
what happened. I think I've been
playing way too much Portal because, like

964
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:30.000
the Aretable, every surface in this
portable practically yeah potable like this, this

965
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.440
is a potent Potables. It looks
it kind of looks like a test chamber

966
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.599
in here. Oh sure sure.
Definitely too much Portal, too many white

967
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.039
walls. So even playing a lot
of port two, I played the whole

968
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.360
story again on the Xbox, Yeah, just to do that. And then

969
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.400
I played a bunch of the PC
co op last night. That's that's pretty

970
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.480
good. Yeah, I don't know
if you've heard, Yeah, no,

971
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.079
I have. People people have mentioned
to me that they think PORTA two is

972
01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:59.559
pretty good. Well, the co
op specifically is there's a lot of smart

973
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.639
stuff there. But we've talked about
that game we have. I do want

974
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:07.280
to just plug real quickly on the
site. Alex Navarro went to a talk

975
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:14.679
I think at NYU last week where
Eric Woopaw talked at length about kind of

976
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.880
process and stuff behind that game.
And I know there's there's kind of been

977
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.840
a lot of that stuff. You
know, we had our spoiler cast,

978
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.599
there's the Jeff Keeley Portal two iPad
app or the Final Hours stuff, so

979
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:28.199
there's a fair amount of that information
kind of already out there. But it's

980
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:31.880
I still think this, uh,
this, this Alex's rundown of that talk

981
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:37.559
is still pretty interesting and U I
think still kind of illuminates some specific stuff

982
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.000
that that hasn't been turned over just
yet. When do we get to talk

983
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:44.880
about that game for real? I
don't know. Maybe is everyone done with

984
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.079
it? You're done with it.
We don't have to do it today.

985
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.239
There's other No, we're not gonna
do it today. I almost feel like

986
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:52.159
it's probably if it's if it's still
if it's still soon enough, we might

987
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.519
just fucking break it out and do
something separate so that people can choose to

988
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.920
listen to it and not have it
destroyed. Some people were upset at Eve

989
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.719
and how much was said last week, which was nothing at all? Idiots,

990
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.679
what are you gonna do? Play
play more Portal too, Yeah,

991
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:14.519
and some brains snow some mother stuff. It's about some some Lego Pirates to

992
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.840
the Caribbean, Lego Pirates of the
Caribbean the video game. I don't think

993
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.480
it's the video game. I think
I'm more than Lego Pirates of the Caribbean

994
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.239
the movie. I think it's just
Lego The Pirates of the Caribbean, the

995
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:30.119
album, the ride. Yeah,
all right, I'm in I would I

996
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.440
would totally go on Lego Pirates of
the Cariboo that that game is pretty good.

997
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:38.519
It's is it like all of those
other games like what what's like?

998
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:44.159
Yeah? But better alright in some
ways that man, they have gotten really

999
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.480
good at making those games like Big
E and Surprise, right because they're putting

1000
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.039
out like two a year. It
is Lego Pirates of the Caribbean the video

1001
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:52.440
is really man, I don't think
I tuned that part out. Well,

1002
01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:57.639
is it like Lego Pirates of the
Caribbean the video game? Like it's Lego

1003
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.119
even in like the it's probably just
their logos, the big the Big redg

1004
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.440
Yeah, yeah, parts of that, and then it's the parts of the

1005
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.960
here being Logo and probably somewhere else
on the box it says the video video

1006
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.719
game, I say three three titles. It's definitely still another one of those

1007
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.320
characters, like you know, and
all those games are so many different.

1008
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.960
I mean, yeah, there should
just be must be like a well,

1009
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:25.079
they duplicate a bunch. There's like, there's like Jack Sparrow. There's Jack

1010
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:29.760
Sparrow from the island where the natives
painted extra eyeballs in his face. There's

1011
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:34.360
like Elizabeth Swan in undergarments in addition
to in regular clothes. Like, they

1012
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.039
duplicate a bunch of characters. So
yeah, because I can only think of

1013
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.119
like who would you want to play
at But you know, when we were

1014
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:45.079
playing like The Pirate, that's you
know, Lego, Star Wars, the

1015
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.400
Clone Wars two or whatever. You
know, I don't know who any of

1016
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:53.559
those characters are, but you fill
roles with just archetypes at that point,

1017
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:55.760
and and it's still I mean,
they all look the same. In the

1018
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.639
face, you can't really there's hard
Lego. They're hard to tell apart,

1019
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.360
you know, But here's a Pioty
Lego person. Here's a parody Lego person

1020
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.199
that's also a skeleton. Here's a
parody Lego person that's also a fitch man.

1021
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.880
I also feel like the kind of
weird part is that, like Lego

1022
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:12.159
Pirate sets have been around forever,
it's not that much special about a Lego

1023
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.199
Pirates. Yeah, I don't know. This one and this that Clone Wars

1024
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.760
game have convinced me that these games
are earning their keep again. Like for

1025
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.800
a while it was just like,
man, they still sixty fifty. I

1026
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:28.039
don't know, we should check.
So what makes it so great? It

1027
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:32.559
looks it feels weird to say it. It looks almost almost amazing, Like

1028
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.559
I'm shocked at how good it looks
like this in the Clone Wars game,

1029
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.840
like I don't know if you saw
the quick look if you were here that

1030
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.559
week, that was they're cramming.
Like in that game, they were cramming

1031
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:49.519
like hundreds of characters on the screen
in the kind of crazy not just like

1032
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.400
a bunch of weird backdrops, like
animating and showing a bunch of characters,

1033
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.920
like you can run back there and
fight any of those hundreds of dudes.

1034
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.880
This one, I mean, they're
just doing so much with the engine uh,

1035
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.400
you know, a little tricks with
depth of field and and HDR and

1036
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.519
all that stuff, Like it just
looks way better than it should. You

1037
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.360
have that crazy split screen again,
Yeah, that's totally in there. I'm

1038
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:15.079
not so sure that's actually a good
thing. Yeah. I played some of

1039
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.639
it two player with my girlfriend,
and it's the camera's just not very smart

1040
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:23.719
when it splits, like it'll,
it tends to not focus on the character

1041
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.400
that is on the side. That
does that makes sense? Like, it's

1042
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.800
like the character that is starring in
the half of the screen that you're playing

1043
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.000
tends to kind of sort of swim
off to the side. The camera kind

1044
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:38.039
of moves around on its on its
own without really focusing on that character.

1045
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:41.159
You get a lot of double images
in a lot of cases where you're seeing

1046
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:45.079
the same thing on on both sides
of the split. So that gets pretty

1047
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:47.719
disorienting. It's I mean, it
seemed like even what we saw from in

1048
01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:51.679
the Clone Wars game like there was
potential for confusion. Sure. Sure,

1049
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.920
So I'm not one hundred percent sure
that is a great feature. Is awesome,

1050
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.920
I mean, all that's really doing. I think it's I think it

1051
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.920
is a great feature. I think
what it's really doing is shining a light

1052
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.920
on those games having kind of shitty
cameras and kind of always having had even

1053
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.760
in the single player occasionally like you
won't be able to see where you're jumping

1054
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:14.199
very well. I remember that definitely
being sequences before, like in past games,

1055
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:15.880
or like I have fucking no idea
where I need to be going,

1056
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.519
and turns out like, oh well, if I just walked a little bit

1057
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:20.880
to the right, then the camera
would have moved and I would have seen

1058
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.920
that. Oh there's this whole other
area that trial and error still largely rules

1059
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:28.960
those games up to and including this
one. You can't I mean, you

1060
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.639
can die, you just respond immediately, but you do lose a bunch of

1061
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:34.719
the little studs no permanence, which
well, if you're trying to hit like

1062
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:36.920
the milestones, if you're really trying
to collect stuff in that game, then

1063
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:40.079
yeah, that's pain in the ass
because you need a bunch of those kind

1064
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:42.760
of build pirate ships and stuff.
Yeah, but that you can just you

1065
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.239
know, do it again. You
can. Yeah, you can actually cheat

1066
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.400
like a motherfucker in these games.
I don't know if you guys have kept

1067
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:53.159
up with how these games work lately, obviously you've not been reading my blog.

1068
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.960
No, I need to sign up
for your newsletter apparently, but you're

1069
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.800
seen Lego Ze. Yes, my
Lego video game. So you all the

1070
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:03.119
other games I've had, these red
bricks and this one. They're red hats,

1071
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.719
but they're basically cheat toggles essentially,
like every time you find a red

1072
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.400
hat, it gives you a certain
cheat toggle like oh, you can build

1073
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:14.280
faster, or enemies drop loot when
you kill or you know, money when

1074
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:17.319
you kill them, and those things
are really hard to get normally. It

1075
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.439
takes a lot of grinding. You
gotta get a bunch of money, you

1076
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.359
gotta get to a certain level,
and then you can go unlock them and

1077
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.920
then buy them, or you can
just put it in a cheat code like

1078
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.039
a six character alpha numeric cheat code
and it just gives it to you each

1079
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:30.800
time or one like like once,
like you put them all in there and

1080
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.720
it's just you've got it. But
it doesn't doesn't like disables certain progress stuff

1081
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.279
and still do everything. Huh,
you can get all. I want to

1082
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.439
say in the past that they they've
had those for a long time, but

1083
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.399
I want to say in the past
that they did disable it may be different

1084
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:45.760
with this one because I don't have
any of the codes. They're not out

1085
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.239
there yet. But once this game
has been out for like a week and

1086
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.319
all those codes are out there,
like you won't have to do a lot

1087
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.279
of work to get like most of
the stuff, which seems crazy. Yeah,

1088
01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.479
yeah, it seems crazy, but
it's just nice to hear the games

1089
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.840
have cheat codes. Yeah, well
it's it's kids game based on PG thirteen

1090
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:08.760
movies, so thirteen No, No, the game it's gotta be E ten

1091
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:13.079
plus. Yeah, sword play,
I bet E ten plus. True characters

1092
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:16.560
explode when you they're just there's a
lot of like neat attention to detail in

1093
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.399
there, like the last level of
the first movie when you're fighting the Cursed

1094
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:25.199
crew, and like there are like
spots of moonlight, and like when they

1095
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:28.800
moved into it, like they very
seamlessly turned into skeletons are back when they

1096
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:30.000
step out. Three movies in it. It's all four. It's got the

1097
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.079
new one in there. It's kind
of weird because that movie is not even

1098
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:34.439
out yet and you can just like
play through the storyline, which I'm sure

1099
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:40.039
is really integral to the experience of
seeing that movie, but start drinking in

1100
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:45.039
it. Uh, pirates, they
gotta call a lot of grog. Actually,

1101
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:51.359
now that you mentioned it, t
see mm hm alcohol firearms. Oh

1102
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:57.239
no, no, it's not anyway, it's well made. It's still a

1103
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.479
lego game, but it's getting better. I've actually the one thing that's worth

1104
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:01.880
pointing out is they do a lot
better about leading, you know, like

1105
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.720
they previous games were pretty bad about
directing the player. It was just like

1106
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:10.479
smash everything you find until you can
build something and then carry it somewhere.

1107
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:13.920
So like when you pick up puzzly
like story objects, now you can get

1108
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.680
like a little pointer that shows exactly
where they need to go. They sort

1109
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.199
of direct your attention towards the important
stuff a little bit better. Now,

1110
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:24.079
it's good. That was still definitely
a problem. I mean it's not perfect.

1111
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:26.880
There's still plenty of situations where you're
just like staring at the environment,

1112
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:30.800
like what do I need to hit
here to move on? But it's fun.

1113
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.479
It's they have created a little cottage
industry from there. I can't imagine

1114
01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:39.079
how efficient their production pipeline must be
at this point. Like those cut scenes

1115
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:43.840
are are fantastic, Yeah, the
just the animation and the kind of visual

1116
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:48.359
fidelity. They get people you ever
seen tell they've been doing it for a

1117
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:54.199
while. So a review of that
forthcoming? Yeah, yes, anything else?

1118
01:10:54.239 --> 01:11:00.399
You me to check in with you, Bradley. How's your star Craft

1119
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:06.399
game? Yeah? Not as bad
as Norm though, who has declared himself

1120
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.680
done? Oh did he fall off? Hard? Doesn't played in like a

1121
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.640
month. He doesn't even watch it
anymore. I hardly do either. There's

1122
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.600
no time. Too many other games
we have to cover. He's hard.

1123
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:19.680
Stop. Yeah, I play a
lot of three v three now because that's

1124
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.000
a pretty low impact. You can
just get in there, fuck around.

1125
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.800
If it's if that's Norm. If
Norm's not at the top of his game,

1126
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:28.640
he wants nothing to do with it. Oh that's the thing. He

1127
01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:31.920
cares more about winning than having fun. So if he's not winning and he's

1128
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.079
not playing and he's not having fun, did he ever finish a single player?

1129
01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:38.960
I don't. I don't think.
I don't think he ever played it.

1130
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:44.119
I don't think he ever started it. Christ Yeah, going down the

1131
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.359
Blizzard in two weeks to see that
Zerig expansion and then you're right back in

1132
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:51.640
it. So well they're only showing
no. I suspect that if whatever you

1133
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.680
see there. No matter what it
is, you will come back originally probably

1134
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.399
you know, hit the little taste, hit hit the post e three lull.

1135
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.520
Remember you can's you can't do as
much as you think you can do

1136
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.960
it. Just gotta ease back into
it for a couple of matches. You

1137
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.439
don't want to stretch, Make sure
a stretch a little bit before. Get

1138
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:12.399
right back into the exact amount you
were into before. Ye know, your

1139
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:17.359
metabolism is different now, will pull
anything. Yeah, breathing exercises get you

1140
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:24.479
out. Uh. Here, I
played some Dungeon Siege three last week with

1141
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:27.600
the couple of folks from Obsidian.
Came through the office. Got a big

1142
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:32.439
old big al along quick look with
that mofo. That's a that's a dungeon

1143
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:39.880
crawler. Yeah yeah, Oh then
you did something. It was a daggerdail

1144
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.279
yea quiok that up? That's uh? Is that out this week? They

1145
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:50.399
haven't announced the date for that.
Okay, here here sutish Okay. One

1146
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:58.760
of those is dungeons Dragons. One
of the other one the one definitely uh

1147
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.560
kind of may a little more like
you know, kind of mechanical business in

1148
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:09.479
Dungeon Siege. Uh, you know
more clockwork kind of so in terms of

1149
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:13.560
the the aesthetic and yeah, the
fiction and all that's like, Daggerdale was

1150
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:15.720
like, man, that's dungeons.
It was straight up if you are in

1151
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:18.039
a dungeon, I wonder if there's
even a drag. Maybe there's a dragon

1152
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:23.039
at the end, the end,
the motherfucking dragon that shoots daggers instead of

1153
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.039
fire. I was, I love
the names. Welcome to dagger Dale.

1154
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:28.880
I love the name Daggerdale. I
was. I was, Apparently I was

1155
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:33.319
incorrect in the quick look Daggerdale is
an existing place creates in the Forgotten Realms.

1156
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:38.119
I was shaken to my fucking core
to find out that Elminster is dead.

1157
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:44.119
Mother anybody else that there is had
no idea assistant fiction and timeline specifically

1158
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.720
that that guy. But that guy's
like the Gandolf of Forgotten Realms. Does

1159
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.800
he truly dies? I don't know. Maybe because Element Store the White is

1160
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:54.039
going to show up, right,
I think I like you in that quick

1161
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.600
look was it was kind of shocked
that when they do a new like rule

1162
01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:59.960
set or revision, that they update
the story. Yeah, there's like there's

1163
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.680
like timeline and story attached that I
thought. It was literally just like all

1164
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.359
right, here's how Faco balance is
out now, or here's what it means

1165
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:10.640
when you're rolling Natural twenty or something. I don't I don't know what I'm

1166
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.520
talking about, but point being,
I didn't realize. Yeah, like there

1167
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.199
was sort of an update to the
universe. Want to check it out?

1168
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:24.079
Ye, kind of Dexdale, Dungeons
and Dragons, dagger Dale Nisville used.

1169
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.920
I used to read so many D
and D books when I was like fourteen.

1170
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.399
Works at the devil Man. Yeah, yeah, look how you turned

1171
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:36.159
out? Yeah, devil. I
had a teacher who wants that I had

1172
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:40.199
to burn all the D and D
stuff because it was for the devil.

1173
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:43.279
She wanted me to burn it,
like literally burn it, like bring it

1174
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.319
to a house, will burn it. What was your response to that?

1175
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:51.039
It's my brothers, I can't do
that. It's let's make birdhouses. This

1176
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:58.159
is weird, you know what,
Vinie. Let's make birdhouses. And if

1177
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:01.279
by birdhouses you mean take a quick
do you want to make a birdhouse.

1178
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:05.600
I'm gonna go make a birdhouse.
We're gonna make bird Hey, you guys

1179
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:10.680
just want you got the peanut butter, I'll get the the sesame seats.

1180
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:14.079
It's gonna make a birdhouse. Yeah, I just wanted to mention the chair

1181
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:17.640
folks came through this morning real quick. That's true. The mustards break our

1182
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.720
iPad cherry on this podcast. If
we talked about I don't know what the

1183
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:24.319
deal. What's what we talk about? Yeah, we can we talk about

1184
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.479
why they were here. I don't
know if you know what tightly wrapped up

1185
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.760
to guess I guess we shouldn't really
screwed this up art. Yeah, well,

1186
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.560
it's an update to a game poison
our relationship. There's an update to

1187
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.439
the family, which is more that
you can't talk about. I don't think

1188
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:43.399
that's under embargo. There will be
new stuff coming to Infinity Blade the Baby.

1189
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.720
You're right, I forgot. We
can't really go into a lot of

1190
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.359
detail there. But all right,
well let's let's take a break and get

1191
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:51.960
our story straight and then come back
with ore of the Giant podcasts after this.

1192
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:29.079
All right, we're back. That
was a disastrous bird house building session.

1193
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.079
I would say, are you talking
about Vinny? You made a cuckoo

1194
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:38.279
clock, which bird was a for
effort, and Jeff just put a cardboard

1195
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:44.840
box around his hand and then flipped
everyone with the bird and the code Bread

1196
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.399
made a house out of birds,
which I don't think a bird would ever

1197
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:53.079
go inside of. I think that's
a pretty strong warning sign for most birds.

1198
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.800
A bird, you wouldn't have fitt
in that house then either. So

1199
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:01.880
so we'll come back later, we'll
figure out this whole birdhouse building thing.

1200
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.800
What did you build? Until then? I didn't come up with anything for

1201
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:08.840
me to build. I came.
I came up with three. Those are

1202
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:12.800
pretty good rule of three. But
I did come up with a fourth where

1203
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.279
I built some news. This is
all good today. Those are great,

1204
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:19.840
Thank you. It's just transitions,
smooth Segus. It's great. It's great

1205
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:26.479
stuff. Uh we price drop one
forty nine, get yourself a wee and

1206
01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:33.600
a copy of a game. I
have a week. You have then you

1207
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.600
don't need this. Okay, this
is not for you for people that don't

1208
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:42.600
have a week. So they're changing
up. Mario Kart and the wheel are

1209
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:47.279
what they are now packing in forty
nine. It's really uncool. Well,

1210
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:51.239
i'll tell you the weirder thing.
Well, you know, for the audience

1211
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:54.600
that would buy a wee for one
hundred and fifty dollars at this point,

1212
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:58.159
Mario Kart, it's not a terrible
kind of pack in for that, you

1213
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:01.560
know, it's better WE Sports here. Here's the weirder thing about all of

1214
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:06.720
this is that they are now selling
WE Sports as a stand alone product for

1215
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:11.600
nineteen ninety nine. I don't know
how, you, I don't know how.

1216
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:15.159
But like with the millions of weeds
that are already out there, that

1217
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:20.000
all of which came with a copy
of WE Sports, at least in theory,

1218
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:25.039
right, yeah, yeah, like
they've never sold that well, I

1219
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:27.800
guess, I don't know if you
started coming with WE Sports resort, right

1220
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.439
they started coming with this the second
one, which they guess they they're phasing

1221
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:32.399
out. In all this, I
think it makes it makes perfect sense at

1222
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:36.199
this point to start offering WE Sports
is a separate game, because not only

1223
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:40.239
do you have people that didn't get
it when they got their Wei, but

1224
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:43.439
you know, it's like they're probably
like a bunch of used Weeze changing hands

1225
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:46.960
and in some cases people probably set
that disc on fire by mistake or something.

1226
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.039
So if people want to experience some
of the best that the we has

1227
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:54.000
ever had to offer, the game
that came with it when it launched,

1228
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:58.279
pretty good, Does a New Week
come with a Motion Plus. Yeah,

1229
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.079
that's packed. That's one control.
I believe that's the case. Yeah,

1230
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:05.159
okay, that had been I I
see nothing on the packaging for the soft

1231
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:09.560
gave released since then to say one
way or the other. But it is

1232
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:11.680
black, isn't it. Don't think
you can get a black one world one

1233
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:16.760
either way. Also, they're launching
you know, value line budget lineup,

1234
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.680
Animal Crossing, City Folk, Mario, Super Sluggers, Legend of Zelda,

1235
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:25.399
Twilight Princess, and we Sports for
twenty buck as well. I bet the

1236
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:30.720
Motion plus controller thing doesn't fit in
the wheel. I can't, right,

1237
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:32.399
Well, that's they don't. It's
built into the controller now now it's just

1238
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:40.720
it's a WEE controller. It's the
it's a week so yeah, they integrated

1239
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.640
that into the actual thing a while
ago. Yeah. Is that what they

1240
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.359
sell now? Yeah, that's what
you get. I think you can still

1241
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:50.199
get the controller attachments if you really
want it, really want it. Yeah,

1242
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:55.640
don't get it. Mass Pick three
has been delayed into early twenty twelve.

1243
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:59.039
Yes, that's no longer coming out
of this year, which generally I

1244
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:03.199
think that's great positive thing. Uh
give you know, spend more time making

1245
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:06.960
the game. And then also we
don't have to worry about that game when

1246
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:13.119
we're also worrying about sky Rim and
everybody is a winner and I'm Charted three

1247
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:19.520
and new Assassin's Creed which got announced
last week. Batman, if there's a

1248
01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:25.960
lot of games, I never understand
upset over delays because I don't know.

1249
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.039
I want to play Mass Effect three. Yeah, but do you want?

1250
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.079
I mean, clearly the people who
are making the game feel that in the

1251
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:36.119
more time is needed to make it
properly. Wait, no, it's not

1252
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:40.119
good. I don't like it,
but there, but to be fair,

1253
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:44.239
Splash Damage has a long storied history
of delaying the ship out of their games

1254
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.439
and then they end up not being
very good. So you know, fool

1255
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.680
you. Once people liked Quake Wars, it was not for everyone, but

1256
01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:56.680
someone will like bring Yeah, I
think it'd be a small number of people.

1257
01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:59.880
I think it'll be a smaller number
of people than liked Quake Wars.

1258
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.880
I don't remember that many people liking
Quake Wars. Yeah. A lot of

1259
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.760
people like ET Yeah, because guess
what, it was free? Right?

1260
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:14.199
But also I mean not saying it's
bad, But what are your feelings,

1261
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:19.840
brad On, how do you feel
Mass Effect is what are you scared about

1262
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:23.359
how it's gonna turn out? Yeah, well, we can't talk about this

1263
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:30.479
without also addressing the John Rick Tello
comments right, comments about do you have

1264
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.239
that story up? I can't remember
exactly how he phrased it. I have

1265
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:39.359
is Casey Hudson Hudson from by aware
of saying that development team is laser focused

1266
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:43.279
on making a mess fectory is totally
fucking awesome. That's great. Yeah,

1267
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:46.399
type wartime take all the time you
need to make it greatly all the time.

1268
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:48.920
You need to make sure there's at
least twenty hours of dialogue in there,

1269
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:54.239
and not like say three I never
I never saw, I never directly

1270
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:57.560
saw what the Ricketello quote was.
I can't remember how he phrased it,

1271
01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.000
but it was something something you know, shooting. Well, no, he

1272
01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:03.720
didn't say anything about shooting. He
said like, were we are investigating ways

1273
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:08.439
too, or maybe we are applying
ways to make this appeal to a more

1274
01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:12.119
mainstream or a broader mainstream audience.
Yeah, you know, third game in

1275
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.920
a trilogy, that's the perfect time
for up to jump and jump on board.

1276
01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:19.680
I mean, I just pulling back
from this a little bit broadly.

1277
01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:25.239
I have been worried about this getting
the dragon Age two treatment because they're whipping

1278
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.880
through it and you know, it's
going to have been about eighteen months since

1279
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:32.079
the last mass effect a little more, but you know, with certification time

1280
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:35.720
and all that, like they will
have cranked out Masfect three and like eighteen

1281
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:40.079
months not now because they have delated
it, which seems like it's for the

1282
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:44.439
best. Yeah, but it is
the third game in a series that is,

1283
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:46.960
and not on a new console,
sir. The pipeline has has hopefully

1284
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:49.920
refined and all that stuff. But
I mean there's a lot in those games.

1285
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.439
There's a lot you have dialogue to
write and record and hopefully make a

1286
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.119
lot, generate a lot of assets. Yeah, a lot of places hopefully

1287
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:00.199
that you're gonna go. Yeah,
hopefully it'd be awesome. Maybe just space

1288
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:04.479
dungeon and this we've walled off this
s's actually just like these gray Bricks,

1289
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:12.039
which actually in the Dragon Age Dungeons, you're actually just made everything neon globe.

1290
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:14.439
But if that was just a side
quest where you are teleported into the

1291
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:15.960
world of Dragon Age two, and
it's just like, I mean, don't

1292
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:19.960
forget like most of those like the
actual you know the world areas you would

1293
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:23.640
go in in Mass Effect two are
pretty small. Yeah, they're very very

1294
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:26.800
constrained, right, but at least
they're they're nicely varied. You know,

1295
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.159
you got to a lot of different
planets. They look very different. That's

1296
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:30.199
true. That's true. Like,
well, like, what how would you

1297
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:35.279
feel if the majority of Massifactory took
place on Earth? It'd be cool as

1298
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:38.920
long as the places are different.
Who knows what Earth is like? And

1299
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:43.119
yeah, that saw big Ben.
Yeah, but you know, that could

1300
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.319
be really cool if the story justifies
that and they're able to turn that into

1301
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:49.359
like a full Mass Effect to length
game and make it interesting and varied,

1302
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:55.279
that's fine. I'm not I don't
care enough, Like I want them to

1303
01:23:55.359 --> 01:24:00.239
do right by Massive, by the
series. And if they think the best

1304
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:01.720
story to tell is putting most of
that game on Earth, and if they

1305
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:05.239
could back that up with the level
of variety and stuff we saw in Aspect

1306
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:10.880
two plus hopefully a little more,
then that's great. Sure, Like nothing

1307
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.079
as simple as like what if it
all took place on one planet is gonna

1308
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.159
immediately throw it off as long as
long as the impetus for that started with

1309
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:20.600
the story. Because most of that
game is indoor environments anyway, Yeah,

1310
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.039
very rarely are you like these like
amazing crazy looking jungle plants pretty nice,

1311
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:28.720
especially like that stuff at the end
of the Shadow Broker and stuff like,

1312
01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:30.960
they can get pretty crazy with those
environments. Yeah, but you can make

1313
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.840
that environment on Earth. Who knows
what kind of crazy the core of the

1314
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:34.880
Earth. I mean, I well, part of what I love about that

1315
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:39.680
series is the ability to fly around
and do other stuff right right, But

1316
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.600
but to be fair, most of
the do other stuff was kind of shitty,

1317
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:48.640
like sitty and slightly different ways.
Two had a lot of decent mining.

1318
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.279
This is just what I'm talking about. Oh yeah, mining, and

1319
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:56.319
which was kind of like one of
the main reasons why you would go and

1320
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.479
like try to explore stuff other than
like there's a plant that I know,

1321
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:00.960
I have a mission and on and
I will go to that. But there

1322
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.239
are a lot of side missions that
you know, I like, I like

1323
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:08.399
finding the random side missions. I
guess like how they present. How I

1324
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:14.119
approach side missions doesn't concern me as
much, like I don't the whole like

1325
01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:17.119
I'm gonna fly my little ship through
this, you know, fake universe,

1326
01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:20.760
and then oh but I gotta go
get gas because I don't have enough space

1327
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:26.199
gas, like a horrible case of
space I just you know, I if

1328
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.880
I like walked up to Normandy and
then right there, it's like, all

1329
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:30.760
right, you have these four missions, which one do you want to go

1330
01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:32.560
do? They're each on different planets, I don't know. And then you

1331
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:36.399
showed me a cut scene of the
Normandy going through the you know, the

1332
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:41.960
mass effect gate or whatever, and
then you got to take an elevator load

1333
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.159
scene. I'm just saying, and
then I'm on the next place. That

1334
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:46.239
would be okay too, I would
That wouldn't bother me. I want I

1335
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:48.680
want my own space ship. I
want to be on the show like that.

1336
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:53.199
Yeah, I want. You need
to be on the ship's suggesting not

1337
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:56.640
walking around the ship. Oh no
way. You gotta be able to get

1338
01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:00.560
that. Maybe you'll have a big
car that's like exploring that ship and talking

1339
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:03.279
to the people on it and getting
their thoughts on the current state of the

1340
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:08.800
missions. Because there was one at
the end of two, so at least

1341
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:12.840
for a little bit, this gotta
be some kind of Normandy having a Normandy

1342
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:15.720
at the start of mass efect,
having a ship, having having a ship

1343
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:17.840
and feeling like it's your home and
it's it's like a living environment. It's

1344
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:20.880
like one of my favorite things about
that. Maybe it'll orbit Earth and you'll

1345
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:25.119
drop from there and do stuff.
Who knows. It's all a speculation,

1346
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:28.600
but I will say it's just X
Calm at that point. Yeah, I

1347
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.840
like that. Heard sh about that
two k X calms, Like, get

1348
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.199
on that instead of a ship.
If he was like x Common, he

1349
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:36.800
had your own like Jjoe bass or
something like that, I'd be down with

1350
01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:40.239
that. With a lift, you
know, put put the makeo up on

1351
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:45.119
the lift and watch it go up
and down. Yeah. Yeah, So

1352
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:48.319
the strength of mass effect having played
through that was the latest last DLC,

1353
01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:53.800
which was the rival. When that
game sucks is when you're by yourself and

1354
01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:57.600
like it becomes a single. If
they just put Shepherd out there to drive

1355
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.960
to dry and there's no more of
that party stuff that well, I can't

1356
01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:03.960
see that. I don't they did
it in that thing. I'm saying like

1357
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:08.279
that, you'll really find out when
the where the strengths are mass effect is,

1358
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:12.239
and I mean not a surprise.
It's it's in the character interactions and

1359
01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.640
all the party stuff, which is
awesome and how people react to Shepherd,

1360
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.560
and how Shepherd reacts to them when
he's alone just shooting dudes. It gets

1361
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:24.800
kind of there are better shooters out
there. I still have faith, so

1362
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:29.039
I'm better now. I'm still willing
to give them the benefit of the doubt.

1363
01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:30.000
Yes, you know, Dragon Age
two was not quiet what it was

1364
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.319
supposed to be. But I you
know, Dragon Age one didn't really click

1365
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:38.399
with me either, So like that's
that happening, doesn't you know, rattle

1366
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:43.279
me to my core or whatever?
You know, the Mass Effect team has

1367
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.159
been good to me, and uh, you know, I I'll see what

1368
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:48.199
they have to do, you know, with what they have to say.

1369
01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:54.439
The lay is encouraging, but the
comments not as much. But you know,

1370
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:57.920
if they make the shooting and that
came better. Like, I don't

1371
01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:00.119
think anyone loses, No, it's
only if if it comes at the expense

1372
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.359
of other stuff. I'm worried.
I'm I'm specifically worried about you know,

1373
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:08.079
something being don't I don't think.
I don't think broadening the appeal of that

1374
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.640
game, I don't. I don't
think you get there by stripping out the

1375
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.439
things that fearing to broaden the appeal
by taking out all that talk and yeah,

1376
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.800
I mean if they just like ship
Gears of War with Shepherd and Rex,

1377
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:24.199
like that might work as a separate
multiplayer focused game, but that's what

1378
01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:28.159
they ship as Mass Factory. Literally
just sent chills up my spots. But

1379
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:30.920
that's like what you need that for, like fucking commercials and stuff. You

1380
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.880
can't if the game is just shooting
dudes, you can't. If that's a

1381
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:39.079
harder game to like selling, market
more talking makes that game more marketable.

1382
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:43.920
And Christina Norman was recently on Twitter. I guess some comments she had been

1383
01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:46.039
made had been taking a context that
she did not care for, and went

1384
01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:50.560
out and cleared the air. Basically
people saying like, like taking her her

1385
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.000
comments is meaning that they were going
to reduce like the RPG elements in that

1386
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:57.600
game, and she's like, that's
not what I meant at all. What

1387
01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:00.680
I meant is that we're going to
try and contextualize them and make them more

1388
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.640
meaningful to the actual actions that you
are doing in the game. So so

1389
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:10.960
so we're jumping, Yeah it will
if if Shepherd jumps, I'm done.

1390
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.520
I have no interest in a jumping
Shepherd. What about kind of if if

1391
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:18.560
there's like a little like a low
step, but about that's the edge of

1392
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:24.439
the world. I don't know that. Don't want to see what Shepherd looks

1393
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:28.760
like jumping like what sort of just
like this this awful crazy little like yeah,

1394
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.560
ump, situation suits too heavy,
man, I don't think he jump

1395
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:35.720
in that thing, pulls the right
trigger, kicks the guy out of window,

1396
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.479
and then that's it. Yeah,
there's a left trigger already, forgot

1397
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:44.960
that left right the back. Yeah, that's right, yeah, right,

1398
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.560
always right. I just know because
I'm just clack clack right. I don't

1399
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:53.840
whatever comes up, I'm ready.
But while we're on the topic of BioWare

1400
01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:56.600
stuff, Rick Tello, I guess
it's all coming out of recent earning.

1401
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:01.479
Uh. Star Wars Old Republic is
to come out before March thirty one,

1402
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:05.199
twenty twelve. March thirty first,
twenty twelve, at least that's what they're

1403
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:09.600
saying right now. Yeah, this
fiscal year, this fiscal year, that

1404
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:13.720
game is gonna come out. So
they say, is that given need a

1405
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.399
holiday launch? Do you think?
I don't even know matters. I don't

1406
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:18.920
know what that game needs. I
don't know. I mean, is it

1407
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:20.560
bigger than that? It's what I'm
saying. I don't know. Do they

1408
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:24.199
need that boost? I can't even
tell if they just I can't even tell

1409
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:26.359
if that game is big anymore.
It's the release of that game like an

1410
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:28.760
event unto itself. Well, it's
hard to think, it's hard to tell.

1411
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:30.640
Like, you know, are are
a lot of people excited about that

1412
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.439
game and still a lot of people
still a lot of people still really like

1413
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:35.600
Star Wars. Yeah, a lot
of people still real like Star war Wars.

1414
01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:40.119
Yeah, yeah, I just can't. I can't sell anymore. Has

1415
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:44.279
it been an ask for consoles?
Is that just that's for personal computer?

1416
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:48.079
God? I can't Who posted that
scathing preview a week or two ago?

1417
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:55.399
I didn't you guys see that?
Jeff? What I wish like Star Wars

1418
01:30:55.520 --> 01:31:04.680
more like Star Boars Star Snores.
Someone say bad things about Old Republic.

1419
01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:09.760
Some publication that I cannot recall at
the moment called it one of the most

1420
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:12.640
boring games they've played in years.
I don't know. Last time I played

1421
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:17.800
it, I played like every other
MMO in the world. The story bits

1422
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:20.279
to keep other players from running in
while you're in the middle of a cut

1423
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:24.880
scene like that. But that was
a year ago, you know, And

1424
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:30.439
who knows what that game even is, and and like we've we've stopped going

1425
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:33.920
and seeing that game because seeing MMOs
in you know, fifteen thirty minute chunks

1426
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:38.399
kind of pointless. And you had
they had some kind of larger thing where

1427
01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:41.000
they let people play it for like
here you play the first four hours,

1428
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:43.399
like yeah, even like an entire
day. I mean you want like a

1429
01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:45.880
good couple of weeks that you can
keep going back to the same character and

1430
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:47.840
like really good a feel for the
progression and stuff. I hope that game

1431
01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:56.079
comes with the e A Online pass. Oh you bought to use I can't

1432
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:59.319
use PC games. Don't be weird? Oh weird. I had to enter

1433
01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:02.319
this code the play It's an extra
ten bucks. You have to buy it

1434
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:06.640
through the EA downloader. It's always
a treat, always a treat. Yeah,

1435
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:10.640
that game is in this weird limbo. Now for me where it's like

1436
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.079
I will be interested in seeing that
game when it is complete, I am.

1437
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:16.680
I am interested in that game in
a purely academic fucking format at this

1438
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:19.520
point. Same here, or like
I'm curious to see how people react to

1439
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.680
this. I'm curious see what that
game actually is, you know, like

1440
01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:26.840
I you know, will this will
this really matter. Telling me you're making

1441
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.119
a Star Wars video game doesn't doesn't
do anything for me personally, But yes,

1442
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:32.319
I'm with you. I'm very curious
to see what this does, and

1443
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:36.880
I'm even more interested it does for
EA. And yeah, in those parts

1444
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:40.159
of it of they've spent a lot
of time and a lot of fucking money

1445
01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:44.199
and a lot of resources on building
this thing, and they have clearly very

1446
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:45.720
high hopes for what this is going
to do for them for as a business,

1447
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:49.359
and I have to wonder what the
implications are for EA as a business.

1448
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:56.079
The BioWare units specifically as a business. Uh, you know, Rickeatello's

1449
01:32:56.199 --> 01:33:00.239
role in the organization as being kind
of the you know, the do who

1450
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:04.000
approved this stuff? Everything hangs in
the balance kind of a little bit kind

1451
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:10.359
of this is this is kind of
linchpin. Everyone involved. It seems like

1452
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.680
has put their chift theoretical nuts on
the table. It seems that way.

1453
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:24.359
But you know, it's always great
our Konami press conferences. That was pretty

1454
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:27.119
good one. That's all right,
thank you, thank you? Why well,

1455
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.560
I was using it ironically because Konami
press conferences are fucking awful. I

1456
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.399
don't know, constantly consistently over the
years. Last year was that one with

1457
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.479
the announced def Jam Rap Star.
That one was pretty good. Last year,

1458
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:45.159
they there was an inflection point like
they crossed over, so the meter

1459
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:48.239
circled back around to oh wait,
this is actually amazing, but not for

1460
01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:53.119
any of the reasons they expected it, just like it became so bizarre and

1461
01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:57.600
terrible that it became amazing. So
they live streamed that on the internet last

1462
01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:00.079
year. So they have like the
worst possible, Like they're their press conferences

1463
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.479
are during E three, Like during
the show. None of us saw that

1464
01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:06.479
because we were doing to go see
the games. The problem there is that

1465
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:10.279
you know, like the ESA only
gives out some of the press conferences and

1466
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:13.159
they didn't get one, so they
just have their own thing on the floor

1467
01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:15.640
or like in the building. Yeah, and what are they doing now?

1468
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:19.399
Uh? They will be again live
streaming up. But they're also organizing viewing

1469
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:25.199
parties around the globe. Takes place
before Yeah, this is actually the week

1470
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:29.680
before E three happens, So yeah, June second, which is the Thursday

1471
01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:35.720
before uh Electronic three. They're setting
up viewing parties in San Francisco, Los

1472
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:42.239
Angeles, Toronto, Saupolo, and
Mexico City, among others. Like what

1473
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:49.159
so I wonder if if this is
Danna Montana like live concert experience, if

1474
01:34:49.239 --> 01:34:54.640
this is them like like finding some
kind of self awareness, and if that

1475
01:34:54.720 --> 01:35:00.880
self awareness will ruin the potential for
the for this to even be like accidentally

1476
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.840
entertaining. I don't think they're I
don't think anybody there was like, oh

1477
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:06.720
man, our press conferences had become
a giant joke. Let's like make a

1478
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.359
party out of it, like we're
a meme kind of Like yeah, but

1479
01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:14.600
they but they are a joke and
there has to be some amount of awareness

1480
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:16.199
about that. It's if they were
to come to that realization, I don't

1481
01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:19.000
think they would feel proud about it
and want to exploit it. Yeah,

1482
01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:21.560
it's never for the right reason.
This is this has to be. I

1483
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.039
mean, I don't think you try
and do something like this unless you have

1484
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:30.000
something. This is just middle get
big announcement. It's got to be and

1485
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:33.279
it has to be more than rising. Also, it was announced two years

1486
01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:38.039
ago, like more rising information.
If that's not playable at E three this

1487
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:41.479
year, something is just wrong.
It has to be middle your solid five.

1488
01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:45.680
I'm totally expecting MGS five. Yeah, or come to my viewing party

1489
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.479
and find out. Okay, it
was the week before you three, the

1490
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:54.000
weekend before Thursday before, Yes,
so it'll be a viewing slash suicide party.

1491
01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:57.760
So where your track pants? Okay, and take ourselves out of you

1492
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.520
There where some nikes? Yeah,
if you If you guys could avoid killing

1493
01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:06.720
yourselves until after three, I would
really appreciate it. Ah, we're nothing

1494
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:11.479
worse than a fake suicide. Already
been to like five of those. Yeah,

1495
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.119
I was just kidding everybody at home. I'm just kidding everyone at home.

1496
01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:20.600
Suicide parties are awesome. I mean, join my cult. Uh do

1497
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:24.960
you have to pay a view?
Where can I find? Where is all

1498
01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.119
this information? Canami dot com the
Internet? What I don't get that?

1499
01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:30.520
Canomy dot com slash the Internet?
Yeah, the Internet, dot com slash

1500
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:35.359
Konami slash the Internet, Tilda slash
the Internet. So it's their user account,

1501
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:40.000
there's like they're that's right. So
it's it's on their cell the shell

1502
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:44.520
accounts. So yeah, I can't
even imagine what I don't. I don't

1503
01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.479
think this will be as great as
people who really enjoyed last year's press conference

1504
01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:50.479
will think it is. I just
don't think it can be well again,

1505
01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:53.840
it was because because you know,
it has to creep up on you.

1506
01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:57.600
That only worked because zero expectations.
Right, It's like, here's this thing

1507
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.359
that no one wanted to go to, but some people ended up kind of

1508
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:05.000
wishing they went to because it was
so messed up. It was pretty messed

1509
01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:12.840
up, and it did not necessarily. I can't imagine that anything that happened

1510
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:16.439
in that press conference or anything that
was remembered from that press conference sold copies

1511
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:23.560
of games. So that's that has
to be extremely true. U. So

1512
01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:27.159
I don't think you do one of
these and try to capitalize on that aspect

1513
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.680
of it. I think you you
you come out swinging and say like,

1514
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:31.960
hey man, we used to be
able to put out DVDs with people reacting

1515
01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.319
to trailers from press conferences, but
we kind of can't do that anymore.

1516
01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:41.600
So we're going to get the public
involved because they're easily excited. So we'll

1517
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:44.479
have cameras at people walking out of
this thing saying what did you think of

1518
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:47.199
metal gear? Blah blah blah.
They got to film my viewing party,

1519
01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:54.239
Yeah, you view you. The
only way that canomy executives can get off

1520
01:37:54.239 --> 01:38:00.720
anymore is watching someone else watching their
press conference. Do you want to come

1521
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:01.960
to view and party? I like
it when the swarthy one smile. I

1522
01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:05.560
have the I have the middle Gear
Solid to the trailer DVD. I'll bring

1523
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:13.079
it over that. Its incredible how
much both the industry and Konami has changed

1524
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:15.560
since you know, they were able
to pull stuff off like that. I

1525
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.680
don't know that that's the same,
you know, No, it's not meddle

1526
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:23.239
gear doesn't matter as much as it
once did. Yeah, I mean there's

1527
01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:26.319
still there's fond memory for it.
But like the impact of you know,

1528
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:30.039
the first middle Gear Solid had significant
impact on the way games were made.

1529
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:33.439
No, You're Solid for not so
much, certainly. You know, by

1530
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:35.840
by the time you get there,
it's it's you know, it doesn't have

1531
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.520
that same level of sway, at
least not you know, in a kind

1532
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:43.800
of modern yeah, all the kind
of way. I really enjoyed him just

1533
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:45.920
four. But yeah, you're you're
right, it's yeah, totally, it's

1534
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:47.880
fine. But it's a great game. It felt like, you know,

1535
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:50.479
there's all there. There's a lot
of holdover shit in that game that that

1536
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:57.359
did not necessarily feel completely modern.
Ye was a very good looking game that

1537
01:38:57.640 --> 01:39:01.199
it was bad and you know,
fucking completely god damn crazy. Yes,

1538
01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:03.880
in a way, that's what I
loved about it. Yeah, absolutely,

1539
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.319
you'll, you know, you'll,
you'll take a lot just for a little

1540
01:39:08.319 --> 01:39:13.199
bit of good old fashioned crazy.
Uh speaking of crazy, super meat Boy

1541
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.319
Level Editor coming at you. That's
crazy. Uh, you'll be able to.

1542
01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:19.600
So they're saying, I don't know
when this is coming out. Let's

1543
01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:23.600
come to the PC. Is it
out? Now? It's out? I

1544
01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:25.479
think it's all right. I didn't
see a date on any of this stuff,

1545
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:29.960
so I wasn't sure. Uh.
Free update for Super Meat Boy Level

1546
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:34.119
Editor that includes cludes all of like
the art from the game. You could,

1547
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:38.880
you can. They're saying that you
can make any level in that game

1548
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:42.680
other than the warp zones and the
boss fights using the level Editor, and

1549
01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:46.319
then you upload them to through the
Super Meat World and then uh, users

1550
01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.880
will and you'll also be able to
use any of the twenty characters that are

1551
01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:53.840
in the game, even if you
haven't unlocked them yet. You can title

1552
01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:58.239
your levels, create like strings of
levels, I believe, make your own

1553
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:02.800
music in the like. I don't
know how that. I don't know how

1554
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:06.279
the how the music stuff I don't
know if you're are. I can't imagine

1555
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:12.079
you're seeking getting some good music.
I imagine you're probably dropping an MP three

1556
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:14.720
into a folder somewhere, but I
don't. I don't know, Okay,

1557
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:17.640
I don't know. I would be
don't have the PC VERSU copy boy uh

1558
01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:23.520
levels like aha, and like copyrighted
music. I'd be just like just like

1559
01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:28.479
track Mania. At that point,
Great said this all like German house music

1560
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.800
or something. I just love it
be hardcore. I just love that they

1561
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.560
call it super Meat World. Yeah. I love that they're taking the like

1562
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:38.560
the Mario Yeah inspiration as far as
the possibly can. The cash is that

1563
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.399
you have to have finished like I
think you have to finish the first two

1564
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:45.399
Worlds or get twenty bandages the super
Meat World, So you can't just like

1565
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:49.119
that. You're right, but I
already played through that stuff on the three

1566
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:53.560
sixties, and I'll have to go
back like repeat a bunch of stuff,

1567
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:57.600
and there would be like user rating
system or there is a user rating system

1568
01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:01.640
in there, and the pretty sure
it's out the staff is UH is also

1569
01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:06.159
doing kind of top picks as well. I guess part of this announcement it

1570
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:09.840
was also that they have no intention
of doing a sequel to the Super Meat

1571
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.319
Boy. I believe they've said that
before, but this is them kind of

1572
01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:15.119
reiterating that fact that good, this
is the This is kind of like,

1573
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:18.760
okay, we okay, this is
all that we're gonna do to this fucking

1574
01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:25.319
game. We've we've done a lot. We're done. Uh yeah. Worth

1575
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:30.159
noting, you know, not gonna
happen on the XPLA version because there's no

1576
01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:35.399
I can't do like unchecked, well, they do us creator push out those

1577
01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:40.560
levels over the little portal. They're
gonna keep putting out levels, they said,

1578
01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:44.199
but as far as the like level
editor personality and be able to submit

1579
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:45.960
and stuff like, that's not going
to be there. I just I wonder

1580
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.920
if they'll push out at the user
levels over that thing. They make it

1581
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.439
sound like they are going to keep
supporting it, and it's it's kind of

1582
01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:59.880
implied that that could be with user
created levels. But that's that cool?

1583
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:08.880
Are We hinted at this a little
bit earlier. Assassin's Creed Revelations announced last

1584
01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:12.680
week. What what I was so, I was kind of anticipating that the

1585
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:15.159
next game they were gonna announce was
going to be Assassin's Creed three. Yeah,

1586
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:20.119
this is not it. This is
Assassin's Creed two three? What San

1587
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:25.000
Andreas? This is? This is
the third Assassin's Creed two Okay, World

1588
01:42:25.079 --> 01:42:29.880
two three. Uh they're saying the
final uh adventures with et ceo. Oh

1589
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:35.439
it's confirmedo is it's it's a yeah, he's gonna revelate like a mofo uh

1590
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:44.239
potentially alongside that's all tire kind in
Constantinople. So so which action moves to

1591
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:46.920
Constantinople? Did they say anything about
how, I'll tell you it's gonna be

1592
01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:53.680
integrated. But it's it's it's I
am speculating here, But what seems to

1593
01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:58.439
be implied is that or what I'm
what I'm expecting out of this is that

1594
01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:03.039
you will be seeing uh, the
events in Constantinople in different time period.

1595
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:06.239
Yeah, as you were saying that, I've kind of concluded into that,

1596
01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:13.680
I mean geographically, like that's a
good midway point between you know, Jerusalem,

1597
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:17.079
and you don't think they'll be like
solving puzzles by going back to altiyear.

1598
01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:23.600
I do I do not believe that. I do not believe that I

1599
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:25.920
will say this, I really,
I really hope that's not what it is.

1600
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.520
That's exactly what it is. I
hope that it's for like story structure

1601
01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.520
stuff what I also hope it's gonna
be actually just like Sonic CD, like

1602
01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:40.600
you'll run past a sign past and
then if et CEO runs really quickly,

1603
01:43:40.680 --> 01:43:43.600
he'll eventually like go back in time
and you'll be all here for a while.

1604
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:46.479
I also hope that, you know, we don't lose the Brotherhood mechanics

1605
01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:51.159
from Yeah, I don't know.
I can kind of see that going away

1606
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:56.479
if he's like leaving Italy. Well, like the the the art that they

1607
01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:59.840
have put out there of et CEO, he is older, like this is

1608
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:04.159
this is approaching old man et CEO
at this point, Well, it's always

1609
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:08.880
still Desmond, right, we're all
yes, I guess. And after whatever

1610
01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:11.800
happened in Brotherhood, like I don't
I don't even know what you're going to

1611
01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:15.880
show in the Desmond parts. That's
and which which again, after the events

1612
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:18.079
of Assassins Creed Brotherhood is maybe the
story threat. I am most interested in

1613
01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:24.359
seeing what the fuck is going on
with Desmond. Yes, yes, uh,

1614
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:32.279
but you know I was super skeptical
about Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and that turned

1615
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:38.079
out fucking totally awesome. So,
you know, I feel like they're kind

1616
01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:42.319
of raising the stakes for for potential
disappointment yet again, but they haven't really

1617
01:44:42.439 --> 01:44:47.199
boned yet, so alright, alright, and I have my personal doubts about

1618
01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:51.399
some of these decisions, but so
far you've been good. So I don't

1619
01:44:51.439 --> 01:44:56.279
know. The whole thing just feels
kind of cheap. But so did Brotherhood,

1620
01:44:56.319 --> 01:44:59.119
Like that was the thing. It
was It wasn't wasn't until I played

1621
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:01.439
Brotherhood's multip player about a year ago. Yeah, and I was like,

1622
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.840
oh wait, this is actually awesome. Yeah, sure, and that that

1623
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:10.000
that kind of and this may very
well be a fine game too, but

1624
01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:12.239
like they can only put out so
many of these before it's just like,

1625
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:15.600
all right enough the name is if
it's still good, Like we've had enough.

1626
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:17.439
It's revelations. Man, who knows
what they're gonna on? Well,

1627
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:20.640
it's been good about it is that
they have been making really drastic changes to

1628
01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:25.560
the way those games handle from game
to game, Like the Brotherhood mechanic and

1629
01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:29.319
multiplayer in Brotherhood are significant steps over
as had the screen tips. Do you

1630
01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:32.920
feel like they I hate to use
the word perfected, but do you feel

1631
01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:38.079
like they refined it enough in Brotherhood
that to significantly change it further would be

1632
01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:42.439
kind of counterproductive. It's hard to
say without knowing how if this game works,

1633
01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:45.079
you know, yeah, without knowing
what the mechanic is, like if

1634
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:50.119
it is a lot of time travel
puzzle solving of like is it. Do

1635
01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:54.520
you have a situation where like,
Okay, you're playing is Desmond through et

1636
01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:57.600
ceo stuff, but then he starts
tripping out and seeing all the year stuff,

1637
01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:01.079
and then that's how et Ceo solves
those because he sees alta Ear solving

1638
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:03.039
a puzzle, goes like, oh, I need to do it this way,

1639
01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:05.199
and you end up a lot of
a lot of cases where like you

1640
01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:09.760
see ghost alta Ear jumping and pulling
switches and you're like, oh, that's

1641
01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:13.479
what I need to do it.
If that's what it is, like,

1642
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:15.920
I'm I am not necessarily interested in
that. I like, I like the

1643
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:18.960
sound of what you propose with like
the two different time periods and stuff.

1644
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:24.840
But the fear is that they're gonna
like change some minor window dressing on those

1645
01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:29.680
on the city environments and say,
hey, it's three four hundred years later.

1646
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:30.920
I think you know, well,
I think you're gonna have They're gonna

1647
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:34.359
have to make some significant changes to
the aesthetic of the world by going to

1648
01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:40.039
Constantinople and and sure from the previous
games, but I'm worried about like like

1649
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:45.960
two time periods and they don't actually
put that much potentially potentially. Oh,

1650
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:49.239
I haven't played Brotherhood. I don't
know. Let's well, I mean somewhere

1651
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:53.600
yeah, yeah, but he'll be
out of an animist running around doing something.

1652
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.840
Oh, I thought you were proposing
he would be climbing around Constantinople or

1653
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.800
whatever the modern Bay equivalent is.
Yeah, that's that's what Really, that's

1654
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:02.199
what he's proposed. I didn't know
if it has gotten to that point yet,

1655
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:05.319
you know, that could be happening. I don't I finished that game.

1656
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:09.359
I'm not sure if that's possible,
either one way or the other.

1657
01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:15.960
But I would love to know when
the first game came out, what the

1658
01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.119
plan was for an arc, like
a story arc for this, like how

1659
01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:21.520
close are they to that arc or
more or more more specifically, how much

1660
01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:27.039
that they deluded that plan by cramming
in these Like I don't know much about

1661
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:31.279
writing trilogies, but I feel like
you are are writing pretty broadly outside of

1662
01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:35.119
like the whatever you're your first to
get. I don't think the plotting is

1663
01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:39.199
ever that tight. I think it's
like, you know, need to account

1664
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:42.399
for things are going to change,
and you're gonna find out that some people

1665
01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:44.680
are going to react to certain elements
better than others, so you know,

1666
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:49.079
you don't lock yourself into hard choices
like that. I just back when Assassin's

1667
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:54.279
Creed meant, or at least kind
of seemed to promise like a different character

1668
01:47:54.359 --> 01:47:57.960
in a different historical period. With
every iteration, it seemed like one of

1669
01:47:57.960 --> 01:48:00.079
the most exciting things going, and
it's kind of not turned out that way.

1670
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:08.119
I like that they've been they've been
making better. Yeah, they found

1671
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:11.279
a really great like Altar was a
dick, and they found a really great

1672
01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.319
and interesting character in et CEO.
So I don't like, you had one

1673
01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:17.039
shitty one and then one really good
one. I don't blame you for you

1674
01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:20.399
know he's writing that one. I'll
tell you it was not much of a

1675
01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:25.560
character at all, No to his
only characteristic was he was kind of a

1676
01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:28.840
dick. He was kind of a
dick. You got the job done,

1677
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:30.880
that was it. I liked the
tone of that first game a lot more

1678
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:35.920
than again. Haven't played Brotherhood,
but two felt kind of comic Bookie to

1679
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.039
me, if that makes sense.
You know, she's definitely a lot lighter.

1680
01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:44.159
Yeah, yeah, it was a
lot more lighthearted. Like, well,

1681
01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:48.239
don't forget how stupid the end of
the first one got. They got

1682
01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:51.119
pretty so yeah, I guess they
all. They all get kind of stupid.

1683
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:56.800
Fair to be fair? Is there
any kind of a date or or

1684
01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:00.600
see more? I'm sure it's more
three? Okay, and then play it

1685
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:08.119
November. We're looking for a summer
downloadable age, remember the new Summer does?

1686
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:11.680
Does anyone not agree this has to
be it? They've they've agreed.

1687
01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:17.880
It's a trilogy within a trilogy.
Yeah, like I said, Creed two

1688
01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:21.880
Part three, Assassins Creed is this
one's a Hood movie. And you can

1689
01:49:21.960 --> 01:49:27.680
eat Hamburgers and then go lift weights. You get a jet pack, Assassin's

1690
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:33.760
Creed of Assassin's Creed, all the
graffiti around and yes exactly the food of

1691
01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:41.680
Constantinople makes you all fat. Now
we can't climb around, so good.

1692
01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:44.119
I guess you can't blame him.
I mean, did you guys see what

1693
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.760
brotherhoods sold? It was like over
five million. Great game. I mean,

1694
01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:49.960
I'm not saying it doesn't deserve it, you know, I just hope

1695
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.960
that there is like some you know, whether it's a small team that will

1696
01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:56.279
get bigger as time goes on,
or you know, there needs to be

1697
01:49:56.359 --> 01:50:00.279
some kind of strike forced strike forced
top of the top guys sitting there going

1698
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:02.680
like, all right, here's what
Assassin's the Creed three is really going to

1699
01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:08.279
be and and specking out that game
and starting to work on that while these

1700
01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:11.960
other guys are are working on and
that's gonna be like next level shit,

1701
01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:15.039
that's gonna be like you know,
new engine. Like at this rate,

1702
01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:23.279
you know, that could be next
console. Yes, pet somewhere all right,

1703
01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:26.279
et CEO is his face is going
to be on the sixteenth screen that

1704
01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:29.359
you're holding your hand, right,
and then if he gets cut up,

1705
01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:31.479
you have to apply cotton to stop
the bleeding on his face. You have

1706
01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.000
to touch his face. I like
that. There you go, it's made

1707
01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:40.279
the new punch Out game for the
next Nintendo system. I'm on board.

1708
01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:45.279
I'm the virtual cut man. Uh
so yeah. As mentioned earlier, PlayStation

1709
01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:49.159
network still down and last week Sody
came out and I believe it was during

1710
01:50:49.199 --> 01:50:55.920
the setate hearing stuff. Uh said
that basically, yeah, we have reason

1711
01:50:55.960 --> 01:51:00.520
to believe that, you know,
the group, the hacker group Anonymous responsible

1712
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:03.239
for this because there was a file
left on one of their servers that they

1713
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:09.760
found that was titled Anonymous, and
inside it said we are legion. And

1714
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:13.960
then Anonymous has come back and said, ain't us like, yeah, we

1715
01:51:14.039 --> 01:51:18.560
are kind of we're decentralized. I
will read a chuckled the statement that we've

1716
01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:21.520
quoted in our news story here.
If a legitimate and honest investigation into the

1717
01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:27.119
credit card theft, it's continued Anonymous
will not be found liable. While we

1718
01:51:27.159 --> 01:51:30.039
are distributed and decentralized group, our
leadership does not condone credit card theft.

1719
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:33.600
We are concerned with erosion of privacy
and fair use, the spread of corporate

1720
01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:38.439
feudalism, the abuse of piacht power, and the justification of executives and leaders

1721
01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:41.880
who believe themselves immune personally and financially
for the actions of the undertake in the

1722
01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:45.399
name of corporations and public office.
This is a statement from Anonymous. From

1723
01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:50.720
Anonymous put this statement out. But
so you know, there's theory flying around

1724
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:57.800
like crazy right now that there's like
splinter groups of anonymous that we're acting as

1725
01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:01.520
this, or that there was some
other even more diabolical hackers that were using

1726
01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:05.720
the anonymous uh like denialist service stuff
that was going on. Those ones aren't

1727
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:13.479
doing it for the as as smokescreen
for their operation and kind of you know

1728
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:19.560
if the part about being a decentralized
anonymous organization is that it's easy for an

1729
01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:24.800
organization to suggest that yeah, you
did it, yeah, without you you

1730
01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:28.119
know, being able to. It's
also easy for your group to be infiltrated

1731
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:32.840
by a bunch of you know,
underworld thugs looking to make a bunch of

1732
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:38.159
money off of your hacking talents.
Certainly, and like who know, you

1733
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:43.119
know, Russian mafia could be piggybacking
off of a bunch of kids running low

1734
01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:46.840
orbit I on Canada at this point, who can say? And they also

1735
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:50.439
suggest all the way, they also
suggest that this would not be the first

1736
01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:55.119
time that you know, they have
been pinned with something that had absolutely nothing

1737
01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:58.640
to do with them Anonymous well using
like now like anonymous like sites are being

1738
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:02.880
taken down by other factions of anonymous
supposedly also using name like anols down today

1739
01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:08.279
really yeah, now I can't check
out your image blogs. I know,

1740
01:53:10.359 --> 01:53:17.479
using those owls look so hungover it's
hilarious. I can't tell sides using name

1741
01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:21.239
like anonymous that's used in other things. If you say we are a legion

1742
01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:28.239
anonymous, that doesn't mean that it's
anonymous. I mean we were you know.

1743
01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:30.640
Yeah, I've me and a friend
of mine called up a bunch of

1744
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.840
local BBSs and erased all the messages
and then pretended to be my friend in

1745
01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:38.479
such an obvious way that there's no
way they could have thought it was him,

1746
01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:42.159
but then they figured out him.
Double spoof. I'm just saying anonymous

1747
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:49.439
means anonymous. Sometimes it doesn't mean
anonymous heavy Yeah, okay, you know,

1748
01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:55.960
no, go go read Vinnie's tumbler
for more details. Can't do exactly.

1749
01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.760
I mean when you refer to anonymous
as a decentralized organization, like I

1750
01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:04.119
feel like even even the term organization
is too binding in this case. Yeah,

1751
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:09.279
I think because there is no leadership, There is no manifesto or like

1752
01:54:09.479 --> 01:54:12.760
unifying directive, Like they don't have
guys at the top going all right,

1753
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.560
you guys go bring down Sony while
you other guys antagonized scientologists. You know,

1754
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:18.000
it's it's like he runs the bots
in the IRC channel, they're the

1755
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:20.840
ones with the power. Like that's
yeah, like you know, nobody calling

1756
01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:25.520
the shots and that like it's literally
a bunch of people on four Chan and

1757
01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:29.119
wherever, which we can get away
with the stuff. But it's not again,

1758
01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:31.920
like there's nobody up there. People
kind of directing things, and certain

1759
01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:35.079
people have a little more say than
other. I'm not gonna speak at all.

1760
01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:39.399
I know, I can't say that
I know anything other than you know,

1761
01:54:39.720 --> 01:54:43.680
hearsay and speculation about what that organization
is actually like I yeah, I

1762
01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:46.239
mean, I don't think any of
us can. It's it's basically like anarchy

1763
01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:49.840
and internet form basically, you know. That's with that letter, that letter

1764
01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:54.720
from anonymous? Right is that?
Yeah? It seems so odd like who

1765
01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:58.920
composed it and who vetted it and
who is us? I don't know that

1766
01:54:58.960 --> 01:55:05.680
you get like jumped into seven communications
and then you're like a you know,

1767
01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:09.680
they run it past them first and
they say, well, we'll attribute this

1768
01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:14.520
quote to you, mister anonymous.
He's like, yeah, that's fine,

1769
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:16.319
that works, It's okay. Yeah, although let me post it on four

1770
01:55:16.439 --> 01:55:23.479
chan. Uh so yeah, I
can continue drama and the end of the

1771
01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:28.479
story is hey, PlayStation network is
still down, still down, still down.

1772
01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:32.159
Uh. So, thanks to the
ESRB, we know a little bit

1773
01:55:32.199 --> 01:55:39.199
more about a little game called Burnout
Crash, which a name that we had

1774
01:55:39.239 --> 01:55:45.560
heard floating around for a bit.
Uh. The SRB has graciously provided us

1775
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:49.720
with one of their totally awesome descriptions
of the game, which I'm just gonna

1776
01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:53.520
read here. It's like a paragraph. Get ready. This is an action

1777
01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.680
game in which players earn points for
creating traffic pile ups. From a top

1778
01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:01.640
down perspective, players initiate crashes by
driving car two any vehicles eg. Cars,

1779
01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:06.239
trucks, vans, busses into busy
intersections. Multiple crashes triggers score multipliers,

1780
01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:11.479
and rack up large bills of property
damage. Each level is accompanied by

1781
01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:15.800
crashing sound, small explosions, and
vocal encouragement eg cool and maximum cartage.

1782
01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:19.800
In some levels, players are instructed
to crash into police cars EG. Crash

1783
01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:24.560
them before they bust you, and
other sequences. Oversized airplanes, tornadoes,

1784
01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:29.279
lobster monsters, and UFOs slide across
the screen, destroying any vehicles in their

1785
01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:32.159
path. I'm sorry, could you
repeat that lobster monsters, But the whole

1786
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:39.800
thing Lobster Monsters, top down,
top down Lobster Monsters UFOs. Those are

1787
01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:44.479
the three for me. The thing
that I takeaway is crash mode because it's

1788
01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:49.840
the thing that I missed from Burnout
Paradise, but in a product that sounds

1789
01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:55.239
like it's gonna be a downloadable thing. Yeah, yeah, that could be

1790
01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:59.319
interesting. I mean it's it's clearly
it's not a you know, racing or

1791
01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:01.600
even driving game at all anymore.
But but really the crash mode stuff in

1792
01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:04.640
the previous bread Out games was kind
of a puzzle game anyway that just happened

1793
01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:09.520
to be yeah, you know,
played from a driving perspective. So I

1794
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.279
just I have to wonder if Criterion
is doing this. Yeah it doesn't.

1795
01:57:13.119 --> 01:57:29.439
Yeah, Maximum Carnage lops the monsters, then DJ Lobster Monster, lots of

1796
01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:34.279
mobsters, some Lobster Monster roles.
After this, yes, did not eat

1797
01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:39.960
a lobster roll in Boston, still
said, Yeah, I got some of

1798
01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:44.000
those pills Berry biscuits, you know, the little little get the tube crack

1799
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:47.159
the tube inspired by about a week. I can't It'll be fine. That

1800
01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:54.479
stuff wouldn't go bad. Yeah,
i'd cook him, would Yeah. Lobster

1801
01:57:54.560 --> 01:58:01.560
Monster moster lobs the monster what kind
of both, it's a lot both.

1802
01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:06.399
I hope there are no lobster monsters
in that game. It's just it was

1803
01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:09.479
like something that they looked at and
said, it looks like some kind of

1804
01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:12.640
lobster monster. But they look at
it and go, that's a car.

1805
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:24.319
So as E three continues to rapidly
barrel towards our face off, astern I

1806
01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:30.319
want to go to E three,
they could Bungee announcing that they will not

1807
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:32.760
have any sort of official presence at
E three this year. So if you're

1808
01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:36.920
expecting like a big ass, proper, full on reveal of whatever game they're

1809
01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:42.560
working on for Activision, this is
then basically saying a not maybe not so

1810
01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:45.880
much like they they released a statement
kind of saying like we wanted to,

1811
01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:48.239
you know, head it off at
the pass so that people weren't then totally

1812
01:58:48.319 --> 01:58:51.159
soul crushed when E three came in, It's like, where's the Bungee game?

1813
01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:58.880
Although that does not necessarily mean that
we won't see some sort of teasery

1814
01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:03.279
thing during a press con somewhere.
Yeah, but no Bungee at E three.

1815
01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:08.920
I wonder if that is a this
generation game? Mhm. At this

1816
01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:13.319
point, God I'm not ready to
start doing this, I know every game.

1817
01:59:13.439 --> 01:59:15.079
No, I don't think. I
don't think we're ready to do this

1818
01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:19.079
because we don't have I mean,
I still don't think this next generation is

1819
01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:26.479
quite close enough. Just not and
remember also and also remember, whenever the

1820
01:59:26.560 --> 01:59:30.199
next generation comes, they're still gonna
we're gonna be covering p S three and

1821
01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:32.560
Xbox three sixty games for a little
while longer. Yeah, I bet that

1822
01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:42.960
transition will happen faster than you think. Monsters not necessari Once it happens,

1823
01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:53.520
it will have happened. Yeah,
yeah, uh bungee while uh well,

1824
01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:57.439
Activision is in the statement giving mood. Uh, they're like, yo,

1825
01:59:57.600 --> 02:00:00.359
call of duty. You guys like
that, right? Yeah? And yeah

1826
02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:05.640
the earnings call? Yeah sure,
I like call of duty. Yes,

1827
02:00:05.920 --> 02:00:09.680
then you're gonna love the call of
duties that we have for you this year,

1828
02:00:10.880 --> 02:00:14.640
am I? I hope? I
hope, So, I've hope.

1829
02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:16.720
So what reason would he have to
be dishonest or disingenuous with you? Bra?

1830
02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:21.039
It is an earnings call. They
can't lie in those openly, right,

1831
02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:28.119
What have they got can't've got They've
they've got details forthcoming, They've got

1832
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.439
modern war for three because there's a
fat three in the back of the UK

1833
02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:36.479
Official PlayStation magazine in that font along
with like the biggest game in the world

1834
02:00:36.680 --> 02:00:40.640
is coming back, you know,
or whatever some kind of strap line there

1835
02:00:40.720 --> 02:00:46.479
that's like all of OODI is returning. Who never mind, I was speaking

1836
02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:50.760
in code, Sorry if that If
that confused you. Uh. They say

1837
02:00:50.800 --> 02:00:57.520
in the next couple of weeks that
you will hear more about that that franchise

1838
02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.079
and whatever they're gonna do with it
this year. So whether that means we'll

1839
02:01:01.079 --> 02:01:05.119
get details about Beachhead or as Jeff
is suggesting and probably very accurately so,

1840
02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:14.479
Modern Warfare three details probably both three
D whatever that whatever, that third person

1841
02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:19.560
game that those the Sledgehammer dudes are
supposedly rumored lead working on that could be

1842
02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:23.880
still a thing. Yeah, hard
to say that. There were some other

1843
02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:29.560
rumors saying that they got pulled off
of their own game to work on Modern

1844
02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:33.640
Warfare three in some capacity as well. So it's no idea. All hands

1845
02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:35.960
are on deck. It's right,
finish the fight. I mean, you

1846
02:01:36.039 --> 02:01:40.800
know, Black Ops is now officially
the fast selling game, or not fastest,

1847
02:01:40.840 --> 02:01:43.880
but highest. Yeah, it's on
game ever all time, So wouldn't

1848
02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:45.920
you do. You think they'll just
make black more, like they'll do a

1849
02:01:45.960 --> 02:01:48.920
Call of Duty Modern warfare, call
of Duty Black Ops and start switching those

1850
02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:53.079
back and forth, like stick with
Black Ops. We're not We're not leaving.

1851
02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.479
That's our trade off. You mean, like next year there's a Black

1852
02:01:55.520 --> 02:01:59.439
Ops two. Yeah, like abandoning
the World War two. We found it

1853
02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:03.119
other Blacks. It's got to be
I think that. I think that's possible.

1854
02:02:03.399 --> 02:02:06.920
Well, I think that would be
cool. Yeah, there's potential black

1855
02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:11.560
Ops like keeping in some of that
some of that era. I think there's

1856
02:02:11.640 --> 02:02:15.119
more cool. There's cool, secret
weird shit from that era they could explore

1857
02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:19.560
a little more deeply. There are
more numbers stations to find. Okay,

1858
02:02:20.439 --> 02:02:27.159
sure, I stand by I think
that that at some point the zombie stuff

1859
02:02:27.199 --> 02:02:30.319
is going to get broken out into
its own game. I totally agree.

1860
02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:32.359
Uh, it's it's it seems like
it's going in that direction, and they

1861
02:02:32.439 --> 02:02:35.479
keep putting more stuff that should be
the game that they put out as a

1862
02:02:35.520 --> 02:02:42.039
download and micro transact or or sell
you DLC forever. Sure, as long

1863
02:02:42.079 --> 02:02:45.600
as people will take it and then
collected on disc every six months or whatever,

1864
02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:49.520
and to sell the people that don't
like the Internet or only have a

1865
02:02:49.520 --> 02:02:53.439
PlayStation. For people who don't like
the Internet and have only a PlayStation three

1866
02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:57.079
probably aren't going to be too excited
about this. Next news item, Diablo

1867
02:02:57.239 --> 02:03:06.720
three beta coming before October and the
game might be out this year. Nah

1868
02:03:08.720 --> 02:03:15.199
might, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna stick with that game's not coming out

1869
02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:18.760
this year. You're probably right,
You're you're, you're, you're, you're

1870
02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:23.000
probably right. But they, yeah, they said that the beta, But

1871
02:03:23.279 --> 02:03:28.039
like it was said before or in
the Q three, is that some kind

1872
02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:30.880
of during Yeah, during Q three
of this year, so to some kind

1873
02:03:30.880 --> 02:03:34.640
of blizz Con code, hold on
to your thing to get in the beta

1874
02:03:35.359 --> 02:03:41.000
scratch card. You're you are now
entered in a Blizzard beta. When is

1875
02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:45.920
blizz Con? Usually is this before
blizz Con October? I thought it was

1876
02:03:45.960 --> 02:03:48.720
like this October. Okay, So
if they're saying the beta is gonna before

1877
02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:53.479
October, then it could launch and
they couldn't. Oh well yeah, but

1878
02:03:53.680 --> 02:03:59.880
sometimes you have those codes it's like
you're upcoming beta. But that's like I

1879
02:04:00.039 --> 02:04:01.119
think I got If the beta has
to start before blizz Con, then they

1880
02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:06.000
can't give out Beata keys that Blizz
called. Well, this is it.

1881
02:04:06.479 --> 02:04:09.560
Yeah, that's I did. They
give out some kind of coaches. Always,

1882
02:04:09.760 --> 02:04:12.119
yeah, it's always like you know
you'll be in some kind of upcount.

1883
02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:15.159
You'll love it when you get it. I think that's how I got

1884
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:17.880
into like Cataclysm or something. It
was like from like blizz Con nineteen eighty

1885
02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:23.640
seven or it's usually it's usually the
previous blizz Con that you remember that cash

1886
02:04:23.680 --> 02:04:27.079
received by the bell was there,
that was this crazy one. I had

1887
02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:33.960
that first glimpse too new Coke Blitz. That's too old, wrong time period,

1888
02:04:34.760 --> 02:04:39.119
Diablo. So but between July and
September is when this stuff has to

1889
02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:43.199
roll out to hit that Q three
date that they're spitting out there. So

1890
02:04:43.960 --> 02:04:46.960
you may be playing some version of
Diablo three and the relative near future.

1891
02:04:47.119 --> 02:04:51.520
Cool. Yes, yes, yeah, I'm gonna play Diablo three, Little

1892
02:04:51.560 --> 02:04:56.920
Diablo all right, yes, Diablo
No, no, oh, Diablo,

1893
02:04:57.039 --> 02:05:00.760
Diablo. Don't get it twisted,
Jeff, I know you. I'm sorry,

1894
02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:03.880
I know you did get it twisted. Don't don't get it. Twitter,

1895
02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:05.880
I got it. I got it. Twitter painted a lot there and

1896
02:05:06.319 --> 02:05:12.600
I should have probably again, you
got a stretch beforehand. Yeah, it

1897
02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.880
helps. Those are the news items
that I have for us today, jets,

1898
02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:21.880
let's switch gears into some new releases. Okay, Break is out.

1899
02:05:23.199 --> 02:05:26.960
Break is out for the Xbox three
sixty, PlayStation three D PC, for

1900
02:05:27.039 --> 02:05:34.039
the Xbox pree sixty and PC.
Yeah, don't be mean what that's being

1901
02:05:34.079 --> 02:05:38.199
a realistic, realistic of if you're
gonna buy, like, regardless of what

1902
02:05:38.279 --> 02:05:40.720
you think of these types of games, Like even if you think that you

1903
02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:43.720
are still like even if you've heard
everything I had to say and think like

1904
02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:45.359
whatever, that guy's an asshole.
I love these types of games. I

1905
02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:48.560
want to get, but get brink, Like you don't want to play that

1906
02:05:48.600 --> 02:05:51.960
game against spots, oh for sure? Like you don't want to just you

1907
02:05:53.840 --> 02:05:57.199
you probably don't want to play the
p S three version until PSN is back

1908
02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:00.279
up. For sure, there are
I would say, don't even don't even

1909
02:06:00.359 --> 02:06:05.039
get it early in play against bots, because that has the potential to sour

1910
02:06:05.199 --> 02:06:10.479
your entire experience. Like have you
curious to see if this if there's I

1911
02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:12.880
mean, I don't know if there's
any way for us to know or to

1912
02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:16.640
find out, but you know,
if what, if any impact this this

1913
02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:25.880
PSN outage has had on, uh, the the overall prices of new PS

1914
02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:31.560
three releases like if if even are
going down faster than they than they might

1915
02:06:31.640 --> 02:06:33.800
have otherwise. I know there haven't
been a ton, but they've been you

1916
02:06:33.840 --> 02:06:35.800
know, the ones that have been
out have been significant, you know,

1917
02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:42.760
between so Calm MK PARTL two and
now Brink, Right, I do feel

1918
02:06:42.760 --> 02:06:45.680
like there should at least and they
probably don't, but like some kind of

1919
02:06:45.680 --> 02:06:48.159
like buyer beware thing in stores of
like hey, especially for a game like

1920
02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:53.479
this where they focus is so online, like just heads up, but no

1921
02:06:53.560 --> 02:06:57.319
one knows when it's gonna come back
up, like they haven't. They probably

1922
02:06:57.359 --> 02:07:00.760
don't have a great timetable yet,
you know it it could be tomorrow.

1923
02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:02.359
Well, if it's smart, then
obviously you wouldn't do it. But I'm

1924
02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:04.600
saying, like, if it's not
up when you're putting those boxes up on

1925
02:07:04.640 --> 02:07:08.600
the shelf like a best Buy,
it's kind of a shitty thing. Best

1926
02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:11.880
Buy still really wants to sell those
PS three copies, I know, no

1927
02:07:12.079 --> 02:07:15.159
more than ever. Like you get
home your dudes who are going to brick

1928
02:07:15.199 --> 02:07:16.560
and mortar stores, You're like,
oh, Brink, I haven't turned my

1929
02:07:16.640 --> 02:07:18.960
PS three on like three months,
like I've been waiting for this game.

1930
02:07:18.960 --> 02:07:24.199
And then get home, and you're
creating a theoretical person that I don't think

1931
02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:27.399
exists. I don't think. I
don't think the I ever turned my PS

1932
02:07:27.479 --> 02:07:30.800
three on in three months, Yet
I am super excited about Brink. And

1933
02:07:30.880 --> 02:07:33.359
yet I'm super excited about Brink,
and this is the game that gets me

1934
02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:36.520
to buy a game since the last
time I turn on my three, or

1935
02:07:36.560 --> 02:07:40.039
even a person who hasn't heard of
Brink but sees it on the shelf and

1936
02:07:40.079 --> 02:07:43.239
decides to buy it because it looks
cool. I don't think how that box

1937
02:07:43.399 --> 02:07:45.640
are going to happen. It's okay, okay, kind I like the cover,

1938
02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:48.920
but no, dude, come on, because they'll put it up on

1939
02:07:48.960 --> 02:07:54.760
the big shelves in front. I'm
sure has probably paid for end caps for

1940
02:07:54.840 --> 02:07:57.520
that game. It's it's a big
deal for Yeah, I think it's I

1941
02:07:57.600 --> 02:08:01.000
don't know. You're right. Maybe
it is theoretical, but that's where I

1942
02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:09.239
live, man in the theoretical places. Good to know there's nothing theoretical about

1943
02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:11.239
lobster monsters. They are a serious
threat, and until we all start taking

1944
02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:16.560
them as such, we're all going
to be living in fear of being dominated.

1945
02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:18.640
George, come over here first,
What does this look like to you,

1946
02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:22.079
I sub kind of crab. I
don't know, lobster. It's like

1947
02:08:22.640 --> 02:08:26.640
love. It's like a lobster monster. So I'm like a crawdaddy, but

1948
02:08:26.800 --> 02:08:31.000
we can fight you, crawdaddy king. I'm just gonna write lobster monster on

1949
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:35.760
here and just like, yeah,
I don't know, you want to get

1950
02:08:35.800 --> 02:08:41.720
something to eat? Lobster monster and
Demolis cartoon cars Uh. Virtue Virtue Fighter

1951
02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:48.960
Virtual Tennis Fighter, damn it.
Virtue of Tennis four for Nintendo we Xbox

1952
02:08:48.000 --> 02:08:52.840
three sixty in PlayStation three, which
we will be playing on this week's Thursday

1953
02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:56.640
Night throw Down alongside Virtue Tennis two
thousand nine Doubles, which is the the

1954
02:08:58.399 --> 02:09:01.159
two thousand and nine virtual Tennis game. Oh if you can deal with that?

1955
02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:05.680
And I thought I could. Can't? No, No, I thought

1956
02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:09.399
not. Uh, this way we
can play, you know, it's a

1957
02:09:09.439 --> 02:09:11.159
little something all, a little something
new. Maybe do some comparison between the

1958
02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:15.119
two games, and you know,
allow us to mix it up since there's

1959
02:09:15.319 --> 02:09:20.000
again no PS three version for us
to play. Brad is virtual word it

1960
02:09:20.199 --> 02:09:26.319
is now Okay, it's short for
virtual is it though? Or is there

1961
02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:30.960
some other words? No, it's
okay, yeah, something, it's a

1962
02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:35.560
it's a copyrightable and and there was
a while there that like even some Sega

1963
02:09:35.800 --> 02:09:41.920
games, like it's virtual On not
Virtua on. That always weirded me out.

1964
02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:43.920
I think it was because, like
the people that were coming up with

1965
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:48.119
the Virtua games were protective of the
name and how it was used, and

1966
02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.119
the Virtual On guys were a different
team. You don't think you don't think

1967
02:09:50.119 --> 02:09:54.319
it's too many vowels next to each
other. Yeah, that could be the

1968
02:09:54.359 --> 02:09:58.479
issue as well, But I seem
to remember hearing and I'm just like,

1969
02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:03.359
we're beating weird say from decades ago. Maybe that's the proper use of Virtua

1970
02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:09.760
as you add an L when it's
like after or proceeding avow point and before.

1971
02:10:09.359 --> 02:10:15.159
I always love it when people say
virtual Fighter, that's my favorite fighting

1972
02:10:15.199 --> 02:10:20.199
games virtual I love Virtual Fighter.
Where racing yeah all right. I always

1973
02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:26.720
thought tennis like it should have stopped
at racing and fighting tennis was too far.

1974
02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:33.319
Tennis is where I live, Virtual
tennis, Virtual tennis like, okay,

1975
02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:37.279
virtual tennis, no, thanks.
Also, I like to play virtual

1976
02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:41.399
cop that is not a video game. Yeah, virtual cop okay, Virtual

1977
02:10:41.399 --> 02:10:45.199
cop is also on the list,
But basically like anything that wasn't anything that's

1978
02:10:45.239 --> 02:10:48.079
not made by Yu Suzuki or is
a sequel to a game made by these

1979
02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:50.199
are Like, that's an a M
two game. I guess, I guess

1980
02:10:50.199 --> 02:10:54.039
tennis is also an M two tennis. They that's that. That's that group.

1981
02:10:54.239 --> 02:10:58.039
Yeah, okay, it's those it's
those lunatics that we're doing this stuff.

1982
02:10:58.079 --> 02:11:01.600
So tennis, we're gonna play some
tennis on the show this week,

1983
02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:03.960
GBTNT on your Xbox three sixty.
If you want to play fucking virtual tennis

1984
02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:07.319
with us? What if I want
to play Virtua Tennis with you, Well,

1985
02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:13.319
we will be really playing Virtua tennis, which also happens to be a

1986
02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:20.520
game that features lots of virtual tennis. See it's zero calories per can and

1987
02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:28.000
it's also a zero calorie cola.
Also this week, Lego Pirates of the

1988
02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:35.920
Caribbean for Xbox three sixty PSP we
PS three DS and three DS. Hmmm

1989
02:11:37.159 --> 02:11:43.720
mm hmm. I'm for everything as
you expect. Ugo five d's World Championship

1990
02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:50.560
twenty eleven for the DS. They
still make Ugo games five D Yeah,

1991
02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:56.000
five of them. It's for the
five DS. Fifty yep, that's where

1992
02:11:56.000 --> 02:12:00.239
did my eyes get Old Buggy U
m X versus a TV Alive for Xbox

1993
02:12:00.319 --> 02:12:07.439
three sixty in PlayStation three both MX
and ATV fighting. Yeah, they're they're

1994
02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:09.960
not friends. They don't get along. And as Jeff had mentioned earlier,

1995
02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:16.920
Gatling Gears, that's a EA play
putting that out? Am I completely miss

1996
02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:20.920
some arm of Electronic Arts petting that
game out. Yes, Electronic Arts.

1997
02:12:20.960 --> 02:12:24.159
I can't tell you what weird sub
label it's coming out under, but yes,

1998
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:30.239
Electronic Arts published thing. I'll do
it. And that's a to my

1999
02:12:30.399 --> 02:12:35.680
knowledge, did you release a segment
to my knowledge? Ryan Davis, that's

2000
02:12:35.720 --> 02:12:41.720
it's let's talk about some emails from
listeners. Emails Bobcast at giant bomb dot

2001
02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:46.720
com. Here's the email address you
can send your emails into if you want

2002
02:12:46.760 --> 02:12:50.439
to email us. And here's read
your emails during the email segment here on

2003
02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:54.960
the Giant BombCast. I think I
misunderstood this whole segment. Emails. I'm

2004
02:12:54.039 --> 02:13:01.239
in space. The E Shop update
is out this month, if that helps,

2005
02:13:01.039 --> 02:13:03.159
is it? It's supposed to be
out in May, supposed to be

2006
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:07.560
on late May. That's coming up. You're right, I'm gonna say that

2007
02:13:09.079 --> 02:13:13.560
we'll get me to turn my three
DS age on again. So excited about

2008
02:13:13.560 --> 02:13:15.880
that. They're supposed to be sending
us a copy of Dead or Alive for

2009
02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:18.640
three DS pretty soon here, which
I suspect will be the thing that gets

2010
02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:20.079
me to turn that three DS back
on. Very good, Let's say,

2011
02:13:20.199 --> 02:13:26.079
yep, she kicks. I still
enjoy that. First emo comes in from

2012
02:13:26.119 --> 02:13:30.560
Brian awis in at Cape Coral,
Florida. Hey, bomb cast, if

2013
02:13:30.600 --> 02:13:33.239
you had to run a fruit farm, what kind of fruit would you grow?

2014
02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:37.960
Don't worry about taking into consideration whether
temperature or soil type, Vidi Caravella,

2015
02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:41.279
you're making a game? Is this? This is a pitch for a

2016
02:13:41.359 --> 02:13:45.920
game. I don't want to be
a fruit farmer, So Vinnie opts out.

2017
02:13:46.079 --> 02:13:50.159
Vinnie says no to your Facebook invite
to play fruit farmer. Yeah it

2018
02:13:52.119 --> 02:13:54.279
spam? What is this? Who
sent this to me? Do you know

2019
02:13:54.399 --> 02:14:01.159
you sent this to me? Did
you? And then? Oh no,

2020
02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:05.079
I'm sitting I'm sending fruit farm or
spam to all my friends on Facebook.

2021
02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:11.560
I gotta put up apologies. I
don't want oranges oranges. Oranges oranges are

2022
02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:15.800
good. Yeah, my town has
oranges, so if you, if you

2023
02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:20.199
have, I want to get some
peaches though, how many bells? Just

2024
02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:22.600
come and I'll give you some oranges. You give me some peaches like like

2025
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:28.199
I don't want doesn't have to be
fruit. That's stipulation subject line fruit farm.

2026
02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.880
Okay, we had a discussion last
week about whether avocado is a fruit

2027
02:14:31.960 --> 02:14:35.960
or yes it is, then avocado
all right, bathe in guacamoli all the

2028
02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:41.560
time. Bananas you can't raise.
No, that has to be a plantation.

2029
02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:43.840
What are you talking? You said
you can't have a banana farm.

2030
02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:48.520
The stipulations again, you have a
banana plantation if you have to run a

2031
02:14:48.560 --> 02:14:50.880
fruit farm. It says, uh. I mean, all it says is

2032
02:14:52.199 --> 02:14:56.079
fruit farm. Doesn't care where or
how fruit farm. But again, it

2033
02:14:56.119 --> 02:15:00.119
can't be a farm, it's plantation. What if it's smaller. No,

2034
02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:07.319
if it saw Chiquita to Go display
filled filled with the most old looking,

2035
02:15:07.640 --> 02:15:11.279
bruised up bananas in the world at
the gas station that probably came from my

2036
02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:15.439
farm. You don't want no gas
station banana? Uh? And I yeah,

2037
02:15:16.439 --> 02:15:18.600
I know I wasn't talking to any
of you about the Chiquita to Go

2038
02:15:18.760 --> 02:15:24.920
stuff. So this is this is
my get Patrick in here. What about

2039
02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:28.680
Chiquita to Go talking about bananas,
talking about you like your banana ta talk

2040
02:15:28.720 --> 02:15:33.840
to John Drake about bananas. Bananas, and they're crazy about bananas. What

2041
02:15:35.039 --> 02:15:39.600
was your fruit? Apples? Apple, just you know, versatile fruit.

2042
02:15:39.720 --> 02:15:45.800
Yeah, it's good, exactly,
It's not boring, boring fruit monger.

2043
02:15:45.880 --> 02:15:48.760
It's good. Well here's the problem. Okay, So I actually had to

2044
02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:52.880
I played this game as a child
at one point, really when we were

2045
02:15:54.079 --> 02:15:56.359
deciding to plan an orchard on the
property that I grew up on, and

2046
02:15:56.399 --> 02:15:58.920
we're like, Okay, we're gonna
get all these different fucking crazy kinds of

2047
02:16:00.399 --> 02:16:03.560
trees you can get, like these
Japanese pear trees and all these like kind

2048
02:16:03.600 --> 02:16:09.680
of custom like crazy grafted uh,
like types of apples and berries and stuff,

2049
02:16:11.399 --> 02:16:13.920
bray burns and fujis and all sorts
of good shit. Uh. And

2050
02:16:15.560 --> 02:16:16.680
I got to have some input on
like what sort of trees. Wrong.

2051
02:16:16.760 --> 02:16:20.119
I'm like, I want to have
a pomegranate tree. Wow, you're ahead

2052
02:16:20.119 --> 02:16:24.439
of the time. And I was, because I was weighing a pomegranate.

2053
02:16:24.840 --> 02:16:28.680
I thought they were awesome and weird
and tasted good. Uh, But that

2054
02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:33.319
tree fucking sucked and barely produced fruit, and so uh, you know,

2055
02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:39.159
by trying to go very like specific
and weird and just and unique. I'm

2056
02:16:39.200 --> 02:16:41.079
like, guess what I ended up
eating most of out of that goddamn orchard

2057
02:16:41.120 --> 02:16:45.120
was sucking apples. It's regular ass
apples, well, apples, at least

2058
02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:46.440
you can you can rent out,
you know, apple picking and stuff like

2059
02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:52.280
that. So that's pretty good investment. People love picking apples? Do they

2060
02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:54.920
only apples? Though? No one's
gonna want to come and pick Jeff's shitty

2061
02:16:54.920 --> 02:17:01.440
oranges. I think the oranges aren't
oranges. It's really apples. They'll pay

2062
02:17:01.479 --> 02:17:05.200
you oranges. You have to pay
people to pick those oranges. All right

2063
02:17:07.520 --> 02:17:11.440
about weekend picking apples? So about
you're crazy? What do I pick oranges?

2064
02:17:11.680 --> 02:17:16.639
About bananas? Bananas? Yeah,
they're crazy? No? No,

2065
02:17:16.719 --> 02:17:20.159
I mean can like, can you
can I pay you to pick your bananas?

2066
02:17:20.559 --> 02:17:24.959
Go banana pickings? Yeah? It's
a craigslist dad, I say you

2067
02:17:24.079 --> 02:17:31.440
to miss connections. I think bananas
are tough to pick, right, Like,

2068
02:17:31.520 --> 02:17:33.239
you gotta get up that tree and
shake them that back. Look at

2069
02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:35.920
you, brack, because I do
think you have to train monkeys, I

2070
02:17:35.959 --> 02:17:41.200
think to pick bananas. How cool
is my plantation gonna be? Or plantation?

2071
02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:48.840
It's a farm. It's the nature's
wonder fruit Top five fruits go apples

2072
02:17:48.920 --> 02:17:56.479
and oranges. Kiwis really like he
was tough because you can't eat the skin.

2073
02:17:58.040 --> 02:18:00.680
Yeah, really can you eat that
fuzzy skin? Yeah? You could

2074
02:18:00.760 --> 02:18:01.879
kind of def weird. I mean, it's kind of like eating a peach.

2075
02:18:03.719 --> 02:18:07.079
I like a good peaches are good, like a nectarine, like a

2076
02:18:07.159 --> 02:18:11.440
plum, like grapes. Plums are
grapes. Grapes, Yeah, my wife

2077
02:18:11.440 --> 02:18:13.879
for the like strawberries. But I'm
not so you don't blew my mind.

2078
02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:16.760
I mean that well, you already
kind of talked about it. But when

2079
02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:20.000
I moved out here. The fact
that everybody has fruit trees, yeah,

2080
02:18:20.120 --> 02:18:22.479
even if you don't want them,
which I'm guessing you probably have a whole

2081
02:18:22.479 --> 02:18:24.799
tree that I don't want at all. I've got I've got like five fruit

2082
02:18:24.840 --> 02:18:28.159
trees in my back. I would
love to have a different fruit tree because

2083
02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:31.280
I would love to have apples.
But but I fucking hate pears, So

2084
02:18:31.399 --> 02:18:39.479
of course pears are to pay me
to pick my pears. I'm not whatever

2085
02:18:39.559 --> 02:18:41.879
if you want the pears for free, do you guys, like, do

2086
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:43.959
you have to take care of the
tree at all? You're you probably ought

2087
02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:46.280
to. I mean in terms of, like, you know, I fertilize

2088
02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:50.399
it or like it, you probably
ought to. Like that's like you will.

2089
02:18:50.159 --> 02:18:54.360
The fruit that my trees puts out
sucks because I do not fertilize.

2090
02:18:54.399 --> 02:18:58.559
I do not like have like irrigation
for water or anything like. They just

2091
02:18:58.680 --> 02:19:01.760
get what they can and they grow
and they produce some fruit, but it's

2092
02:19:01.799 --> 02:19:05.959
not like the premium, like really
excellent fruit that could be. Just expose

2093
02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:07.920
that tree to the elements, you're
not gonna get much out of it.

2094
02:19:07.920 --> 02:19:09.479
But if you let them, you
canna get a bunch of fruit. You're

2095
02:19:09.479 --> 02:19:11.760
gonna get a bunch of she beat. But it's probably bad is if the

2096
02:19:11.879 --> 02:19:13.360
rotten fruit just collects on the bottom
of the tree, right, that's very

2097
02:19:13.399 --> 02:19:16.120
bad news. Yeah, as it
turns out, Yeah, it starts to

2098
02:19:16.159 --> 02:19:22.000
smell a little weird and you get
a lot of bugs. So that gets

2099
02:19:22.040 --> 02:19:24.760
taken care of now, and I'm
not it's not it's no longer a problem.

2100
02:19:24.840 --> 02:19:28.239
But the first year I had that
house, fuck man, was a

2101
02:19:28.360 --> 02:19:31.319
nightmare. Just mushy, just rotten
fruit just everywhere. And it's like,

2102
02:19:31.360 --> 02:19:35.120
but there's some cement back there,
and it's not lawn it's like you know,

2103
02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:37.760
wood chips and crap like that,
so it sort of sucks. And

2104
02:19:39.639 --> 02:19:43.399
the whole surface was just like it's
disguised dirt. Yeah, it's dis guy's

2105
02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:48.239
dirt. Definitely composting in the in
the sun. Just mean, it's like,

2106
02:19:48.319 --> 02:19:50.319
you know, there's there's a ton
of raccoons around there too, So

2107
02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:52.920
raccoons will be gutting in there and
charge them the pick bears. Yeah,

2108
02:19:54.520 --> 02:19:56.520
if they would get it off the
tree and get it before it was rotting,

2109
02:19:56.639 --> 02:19:58.840
like if they could have it,
I don't free. Yeah. Yeah.

2110
02:19:58.879 --> 02:20:01.440
The raccoons will live in this storm
drain in front of my house,

2111
02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:05.799
so I have a little I've seen
them crawling in and out of storm drains

2112
02:20:05.840 --> 02:20:09.360
around that area. That's that's absolutely
where they hang out. I threw ice

2113
02:20:09.399 --> 02:20:13.520
cream sandwich into one a couple of
days ago. Thanks, just keep them

2114
02:20:13.520 --> 02:20:16.799
distracted, yeah, like you don't
have to. It was I mean it

2115
02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:18.879
was a yeah, just like just
stay down there. It was a really

2116
02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:20.959
crappy ice cream sandwich, and I
was like I don't want this. So

2117
02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:24.600
it was kind of like a disc
is like passion aggressive of like yeah,

2118
02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:30.760
oh here's there's sandwich raccoons. Yeah, I take it. You face it,

2119
02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:39.879
Moms to come. Next. Email
comes in from Kyle in Seattle.

2120
02:20:41.520 --> 02:20:43.719
Hey, bomb crew, I just
wanted to share a straight situation that happened

2121
02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:48.719
Saturday night while working at the register
at my theater, which he spells t

2122
02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:52.719
r E. Of course that as
you will. After Jeff's talk last week

2123
02:20:52.760 --> 02:20:54.920
about these snake eyes slash storm shadow
tattoo, I had to google it to

2124
02:20:54.920 --> 02:20:58.719
see what the hell he was talking
about. My childhood was spent mostly during

2125
02:20:58.760 --> 02:21:01.879
the Pokemon crazy of the late nineties, so I had very little understanding of

2126
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:05.360
Gi Joe in any capacity. Pikachu
bulbosords tattoo, then it's the same thing.

2127
02:21:05.040 --> 02:21:09.399
But this little negative information then armed
me with the knowledge to suddenly become

2128
02:21:09.639 --> 02:21:16.159
distracted as a buff sleep become distracted
as a buff sleeveless shirt wearing dude came

2129
02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:18.760
up to my register with the very
same tattoo on his forearm. Being a

2130
02:21:18.799 --> 02:21:22.280
complete idiot, I basically yelled,
dude, I recognize that that's that snake

2131
02:21:22.360 --> 02:21:28.440
eyes tattoo. He responded in what
in retrospect was a veiled, annoyed response

2132
02:21:28.559 --> 02:21:31.120
of yeah, it does look like
that to seal the deal, and then

2133
02:21:31.159 --> 02:21:35.440
promptly, promptly fucked up his order. Looking it up, it turns out

2134
02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:39.600
that it's a Taoist Bogua symbol meaning
fire and water, and that the guy

2135
02:21:39.799 --> 02:21:43.600
was probably a hardcore martial artist or
maybe just a Gi Joe nut or maybe

2136
02:21:43.680 --> 02:21:46.440
a cage fight. You know who
else is a fucking hardcore martial artist,

2137
02:21:46.879 --> 02:21:50.120
snake eyes. So thanks Jeff for
making me look like an idiot and for

2138
02:21:50.159 --> 02:21:54.159
pissing off a dude who could probably
gave my skull in with his elbow anytime.

2139
02:21:54.360 --> 02:22:00.319
So we all learn where is he
working? A theatrey? Okay,

2140
02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:03.840
how do you know? Okay,
messed up is like popcorn or something?

2141
02:22:03.959 --> 02:22:09.040
Yeah, I imagine like popcorn.
Do you I bought some? I bought

2142
02:22:09.079 --> 02:22:15.840
some jiffy pop like old school like
stove top fire like camp fires. Yeah,

2143
02:22:16.280 --> 02:22:22.680
make a little aluminum balloon. Rise
up, Brad, You looked aluminum

2144
02:22:22.719 --> 02:22:28.399
balloon like popcorn pop. It always
gets that reaction, any kind of pop

2145
02:22:28.959 --> 02:22:33.399
from popcorn with no lettuce, herb, no no lettuce, God damn it,

2146
02:22:33.440 --> 02:22:37.040
no lettuce, potato, no ma, no salt, and no butter

2147
02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:43.200
on it, just plain ass pot
make the Christmas. I gotta I do.

2148
02:22:43.319 --> 02:22:46.399
I kind of like the Christmas try
corn, like tis right? Yeah,

2149
02:22:46.559 --> 02:22:50.520
Like that's that's you know, high
end butter cheese corn. And then

2150
02:22:50.639 --> 02:22:54.959
like the caramel corn whatever that that's
tolerable. But I'm not. So how

2151
02:22:56.000 --> 02:22:58.559
are you popping your corn? Jeff
So someone saying us a some kind of

2152
02:22:58.639 --> 02:23:03.840
bowl here that is a microwave popcorn
bowl. You can pop a regular ass

2153
02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:07.360
poppuse that thing. Yeah at works. I started like it was sitting around

2154
02:23:07.399 --> 02:23:09.040
my house for like the last six
months or whatever. I was like,

2155
02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:11.760
man, this thing came with popcorn. I got it all right here,

2156
02:23:11.840 --> 02:23:15.360
I should just try it. And
I tried it and it was popcorn.

2157
02:23:15.840 --> 02:23:18.840
And it's popcorn. So it's microwave. You can put regular put regular popcorn

2158
02:23:18.879 --> 02:23:22.680
and put it in the microwave for
about like four minutes and it pops and

2159
02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:26.040
it's popcorn. Think of the savings
I make my popcorn. Think of the

2160
02:23:26.120 --> 02:23:31.040
savings you grow corn in your apartments? I have. Yeah, yeah,

2161
02:23:31.440 --> 02:23:37.479
that's a grain. That's not I
have a stir crazy. It's awesome.

2162
02:23:37.239 --> 02:23:41.319
Well. Oil. It was always
an air popper guy, and then for

2163
02:23:41.559 --> 02:23:43.760
some reason I was like, I'm
done air pop. I'm gonna put oil.

2164
02:23:43.840 --> 02:23:48.639
You know, the oil poppers.
Yeah, I mean, and they

2165
02:23:48.680 --> 02:23:50.639
say, in this bowl you can
put oil in it, but you don't

2166
02:23:50.719 --> 02:23:54.440
have to. And I assume just
putting oil in it means more of it's

2167
02:23:54.440 --> 02:23:56.159
gonna pop because it'll spread the heat
around more evenly. Yeah, it's just

2168
02:23:56.319 --> 02:24:01.319
it's just to conducive. Yeah.
Probably, it's not necessarily like changing the

2169
02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:03.799
flavor of it that dramatically, right, I don't know. I think it

2170
02:24:03.840 --> 02:24:07.440
tastes a little different. Okay,
that's stir crazy has a thing that moves

2171
02:24:07.440 --> 02:24:11.200
all the kernels around. So they
think, oh, you're talking about the

2172
02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:15.040
stir crazy crazy? Is it?
So it's good fast? You can use

2173
02:24:15.040 --> 02:24:18.959
it when you're making popcorn and like
a like a a pot. Well,

2174
02:24:18.079 --> 02:24:20.760
no, the stir crazy is just
it self contained plugs in the wall.

2175
02:24:22.200 --> 02:24:24.239
Okay, yeah, okay. I
thought the stir crazy was a thing that

2176
02:24:24.360 --> 02:24:30.440
like went into an existing pot and
like clamped on the top and then like

2177
02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:33.600
stirred stuff around, so you don't
crazy. It's like it's like a it's

2178
02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:35.920
like a hot surface, right with
the thing that spins around and moves all

2179
02:24:35.920 --> 02:24:39.840
the kernels around, so they move
so they don't burn and and they and

2180
02:24:39.000 --> 02:24:41.840
you know, that's the worst part
about making a pot. You have to

2181
02:24:41.840 --> 02:24:43.360
shake it all the time. Yeah, and then you put a big dome

2182
02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:46.920
on top, and then it fills
up the dome and then when you don't

2183
02:24:46.959 --> 02:24:48.879
just flip it over and the domes
the bowl. So wait, is this

2184
02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:54.239
device specifically for making popp that's all
it does. It's it's the best to

2185
02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:58.799
gadget. It's a gadget, that's
right, it's fan fucking tasks. You

2186
02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.319
know, don't like popcorn. You
don't get to have a say in the

2187
02:25:01.399 --> 02:25:05.879
quality of popcorn such an outcast air
poppers. Also do people put their coffee

2188
02:25:05.920 --> 02:25:09.040
beans in the roast and air poppers? But that's a gadget. Yeah,

2189
02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:13.200
I don't have one of those either. Really, No, I got a

2190
02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:16.600
case of da maker. Oh yeah, that's just like a sandwich. I

2191
02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:20.120
think of all the sandwich press with
different lines on. Think of all the

2192
02:25:20.120 --> 02:25:24.120
different kinds of case of das he
could make. I can make different what

2193
02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:28.159
named another kind of popcorn other than
fucking popcorn. There's all kinds of different

2194
02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:33.799
like, so this this bowl came
with two different types of weird gourmet popcorn

2195
02:25:35.040 --> 02:25:37.040
kernels like so like actually different kernels. And they are saying like, this

2196
02:25:37.200 --> 02:25:43.879
is going to be a different experience
white and this is makes black midnight popcorn.

2197
02:25:43.360 --> 02:25:46.399
This is this is a blade between
a K forty seven. Yeah,

2198
02:25:46.440 --> 02:25:52.239
this is Kate. Want to mess
with this. It's get this stuff anywhere.

2199
02:25:52.440 --> 02:25:56.319
It's a real body high. Uh. You know a lot of creativity,

2200
02:25:56.719 --> 02:26:03.920
not so much sleepiness, no stim
spencery grade. I will say this,

2201
02:26:05.879 --> 02:26:07.479
I don't know popcorn. I don't. It's the weirdest thing is that

2202
02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:11.040
I like all the other kinds of
foods that a lot of people don't want.

2203
02:26:11.120 --> 02:26:16.399
I think Matt Rory doesn't like locorn. He marked for movies makes his

2204
02:26:16.479 --> 02:26:18.719
existence that much more. Think him
in him. That was saying that anytime

2205
02:26:18.760 --> 02:26:22.639
he ate popcorn he got like a
really bad stomach ache afterwards. I just

2206
02:26:22.760 --> 02:26:24.520
I don't think it's worth the crap
that you get stuck in your teeth.

2207
02:26:26.079 --> 02:26:31.079
What's this? This like weird gourmet
popcorn as much softer as much softer hole

2208
02:26:31.639 --> 02:26:35.200
so they explode into smaller pieces when
they pop, so you don't you don't

2209
02:26:35.280 --> 02:26:37.440
end up with anything in your teeth. Do you buy a hot dog when

2210
02:26:37.479 --> 02:26:39.440
you go to the theater to put
it? Because if you do it,

2211
02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:43.079
yeah, I hate you. Sometimes
hot dogs at the theater. They took

2212
02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:46.200
out the hot dog machine from the
gas station we go to and did they

2213
02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:50.159
Thank God? I think it was
crap. Yeah, it was in the

2214
02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:52.719
hot dogs were terrible? Were hot
dogs? We should go to that bar

2215
02:26:52.799 --> 02:26:54.319
after this get hot dogs. I
went to the Wiener Schnitzel when I was

2216
02:26:54.399 --> 02:26:58.520
in La had got hot dogs there, got chili dog. I ate it

2217
02:26:58.600 --> 02:27:01.559
was not very good. I two
kinds of feet this weekend. Next week,

2218
02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:05.680
I'm going to the Famima every days. Wait, you ate chicken feet?

2219
02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:09.840
No, I've had that before.
That's whatever. Man, that's feet

2220
02:27:09.200 --> 02:27:15.600
old news. That's amateur hour.
Four feet eaters like professional feet eat or

2221
02:27:15.639 --> 02:27:20.319
eat pig feet? Also duck feet? What at the same meal? Wait,

2222
02:27:20.319 --> 02:27:22.639
do you say pig feet pig feet? Do you have to like knife

2223
02:27:22.719 --> 02:27:26.680
that? Do you eat it right
off the hoof? I don't know it

2224
02:27:26.760 --> 02:27:31.040
just picked it up and hated.
Was there like a lot of bone leftover

2225
02:27:31.079 --> 02:27:33.799
when you were done? There was
some? Yeah, I'd imagine like eating

2226
02:27:33.840 --> 02:27:37.399
a drum stick, like you just
eat it off the bone kind of thing

2227
02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:41.840
with the avian feet. Yes,
if you have to pick the nails out

2228
02:27:41.879 --> 02:27:45.879
of that duck feed? Uh?
I can't remember if there were claws on

2229
02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:48.799
there, or talons or whatever.
I honestly can't remember. That all sounds

2230
02:27:48.840 --> 02:27:52.479
disgusting. Yes, that taste has
it taste? It was all right,

2231
02:27:52.520 --> 02:27:58.559
all right, it's pretty good,
Okay, it's it's just it's just weird

2232
02:27:58.639 --> 02:28:01.239
when there's I don't know that you've
even feet in your time. I'm sure

2233
02:28:03.319 --> 02:28:05.680
I've had like frogs, legs.
I think I've think I've had chicken feet

2234
02:28:05.719 --> 02:28:11.840
once. But they're just fried right
there, just crazy fen it depends.

2235
02:28:11.120 --> 02:28:15.200
It's like barbecued kind of. I
wouldn't think that there would be enough meat

2236
02:28:15.239 --> 02:28:16.680
on a chicken. There's not a
ton to make it worth your while.

2237
02:28:16.760 --> 02:28:20.760
There's not a ton. But chicken
feet are a pan cultural experience, all

2238
02:28:20.840 --> 02:28:26.239
right. Like that's yeah, enjoyed, enjoyed, buy many many people's you

2239
02:28:26.319 --> 02:28:31.760
know, just just ugly American afraid
of food that actually looks like the animal

2240
02:28:31.159 --> 02:28:35.639
on which it came. But I
mean, my grandma ate chicken feet during

2241
02:28:35.639 --> 02:28:39.200
the depression because sure I had to
what you had. Can't waste the feet?

2242
02:28:41.600 --> 02:28:46.360
Oh? More emails, more emails, more emails, more emails.

2243
02:28:50.479 --> 02:28:58.840
Movie theater though, what's wrong with
the Yeah, that's that's yeah, it's

2244
02:28:58.840 --> 02:29:03.959
a no, it's a movie theater
thing careful in the same quality of products.

2245
02:29:03.280 --> 02:29:07.280
It's just not a place to eat
those nacho dogs. Nacho just comes

2246
02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:11.520
into the little nacho cup and they're
just dipping chips into the nacho cup.

2247
02:29:11.600 --> 02:29:15.639
It's not like it's like promp.
I don't think. I don't. I

2248
02:29:15.680 --> 02:29:18.000
have not seen a nacho pump,
a freestanding nacho pump in a movie theater

2249
02:29:18.079 --> 02:29:22.159
in a long time. He just
put on the hot dog. Yeah,

2250
02:29:22.200 --> 02:29:24.079
I had to put it on everything. Hey, guess what this popcorn?

2251
02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:33.000
It's not your cheese popcorn. Now, I can't chake it off. It's

2252
02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:37.520
just terrible idea. But I can't
stop. It's just getting words every second.

2253
02:29:37.959 --> 02:29:46.200
It's my other hand. Now,
what else I don't know? Emails

2254
02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:52.440
about Japanese Shaky Pizza's kit cat crushed
pizza? How about that? Like the

2255
02:29:52.479 --> 02:29:56.000
Oreo pizza John in New York,
Greetings, Bomb Squad, your recent discussion

2256
02:29:56.000 --> 02:30:00.440
regarding pizza spheares and cookies. You
missed that some fun last week. Don't

2257
02:30:00.479 --> 02:30:03.520
tell him about that. He'll die
pizza spheres. He will eat himself to

2258
02:30:03.559 --> 02:30:11.680
death. There's like a place and
there's a restaurant and Rhino that just sells

2259
02:30:11.719 --> 02:30:15.520
pizza balls. Is pizza just a
round pizza? Yes, I guess.

2260
02:30:15.600 --> 02:30:20.200
I guess circular like a basketball,
but a pizza. Don't like the scale.

2261
02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:22.719
I don't we do this conversation again? Yeah, no, listen to

2262
02:30:22.840 --> 02:30:28.440
it. I guess it's hurtful.
It's bad, it's bad business, very

2263
02:30:28.920 --> 02:30:33.200
but it was all spawned from a
conversation about the Giorno pizzas that also have

2264
02:30:33.280 --> 02:30:37.000
cookie dough alongside them, so that
you can make fucking you can throw one

2265
02:30:37.079 --> 02:30:41.399
thing in the oven, then you
get pizza and cookies. Yeah, okay,

2266
02:30:41.520 --> 02:30:45.239
that's the thing that Brad didn't want
me to tell you about. He's

2267
02:30:45.280 --> 02:30:50.680
already thinking about it. No,
just already locked in for your your birthday

2268
02:30:50.840 --> 02:30:54.479
sin food. I don't want I
don't want that. I don't want this.

2269
02:30:54.680 --> 02:30:56.040
I don't like a sweet pizza.
We don't have to make him at

2270
02:30:56.040 --> 02:31:01.479
the same time either. He does
not on the pizza, separate the pizza.

2271
02:31:01.639 --> 02:31:07.559
It's pizza and cookie, though separate
on the side. On the side,

2272
02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:09.120
you could bake them bo at the
same time and imagine they would inform

2273
02:31:09.159 --> 02:31:11.200
the other flavor. They're just like
two and one, like a two and

2274
02:31:11.239 --> 02:31:13.319
one pack. Yeah, it's like
it comes with dessert. It's just so

2275
02:31:13.479 --> 02:31:16.920
you can run the oven once and
you get a pizza out of it and

2276
02:31:16.000 --> 02:31:20.079
also cookies. Okay, why not
just start adding another ship in there.

2277
02:31:20.399 --> 02:31:22.159
I don't know, I don't know, just throw a roast in their bread.

2278
02:31:22.479 --> 02:31:26.680
Yeah, well they make that too, they like the Jornos also has

2279
02:31:26.760 --> 02:31:30.520
one with like bread sticks on the
side, like cheesy bread sticks. Alright,

2280
02:31:30.680 --> 02:31:33.159
let's say there's one with wings in
additions. Yes, that's that's new.

2281
02:31:33.479 --> 02:31:37.360
It's something spell it w y in
g Z. Technically, they're not

2282
02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:41.000
actually wings, that's right. Really, they're not. They're not they're not

2283
02:31:41.079 --> 02:31:46.760
the wing parts. If you're not
actually putting real chicken wing in the in

2284
02:31:46.840 --> 02:31:50.440
the in the amazing. Why don't
they just call it like buffalo bites or

2285
02:31:50.479 --> 02:31:54.239
something because they can, because they
can copyright wings w y and zy.

2286
02:31:54.399 --> 02:31:58.200
Nobody's gonna question, by law,
has gonna wonder why you're spelling it that

2287
02:31:58.280 --> 02:32:01.920
way, John, New York.
Yeah, greetings, Bomb Squad. Your

2288
02:32:01.920 --> 02:32:09.159
recent discussion regarding pizza spheres and cookie
and it reminded me of a horrific experience

2289
02:32:09.159 --> 02:32:13.079
I recently had while visiting Japan.
Shakey's Pizza, more specifically Shaky's Pizza's springs

2290
02:32:13.120 --> 02:32:18.520
special kit Cat crushed pizza. Based
on the photo because the sure shit didn't

2291
02:32:18.559 --> 02:32:24.920
try it, this seems like a
more of a horror than a regular pizza

2292
02:32:26.719 --> 02:32:30.639
with crush kits Cats, as well
as a bonus in the form of a

2293
02:32:30.760 --> 02:32:35.840
metric shit ton of marshmallows. So
yeah, I'll do a little word picture

2294
02:32:35.920 --> 02:32:41.360
here. It looks like a crappy
pizza with I believe there. It looks

2295
02:32:41.360 --> 02:32:43.879
like there is a layer of cheese
on top of the bread and then on

2296
02:32:43.959 --> 02:32:50.000
top of that there's sprinkled bits of
kit cat and like little colored marshmallows.

2297
02:32:50.520 --> 02:32:52.799
Is wrong with people, I mean
japand shouldn't been letting near pizza. It's

2298
02:32:52.840 --> 02:32:56.360
unless we learned a long time ago. So John, thanks for the horrible

2299
02:32:56.360 --> 02:33:07.239
imagery. But nah na oh h. Brew Master Andy from Somerville math uh,

2300
02:33:07.600 --> 02:33:11.840
the maker of previous Giant Bomb brews
right, so to say, gentleman,

2301
02:33:11.959 --> 02:33:16.440
I'm hard at work on the latest
Giant Bomb brew, the zojerusi IPA

2302
02:33:16.520 --> 02:33:20.799
sponsored by Zoejeruci as presented by Giant
Bomb. And it really sucks to kaget

2303
02:33:20.840 --> 02:33:22.719
and said, you guys some samples
that said, I need new beer names.

2304
02:33:22.840 --> 02:33:26.879
This is my to do list.
Are my two brew list, so

2305
02:33:28.040 --> 02:33:30.719
you know what the next few styles
I will be brewing. I'd appreciate any

2306
02:33:30.840 --> 02:33:33.239
and all names you can come up
with. So he's working on a raspberry

2307
02:33:33.239 --> 02:33:37.479
wheat, an American brown ale,
a citrus, hef of eison, and

2308
02:33:37.559 --> 02:33:45.719
an American pale ale. So we
got from more crazy beer from Andy Andrew

2309
02:33:50.000 --> 02:33:56.600
casually racist IPA? Is there another
ip on that list? Is? Is

2310
02:33:56.680 --> 02:34:01.799
that the is that the the vinny? Yes, that's casually racist. That's

2311
02:34:01.840 --> 02:34:05.000
the viny tribute. Yeah, something
casual about it. It's off hand,

2312
02:34:05.040 --> 02:34:09.000
it's very off the cuff. Wait
what you don't present with a lot of

2313
02:34:09.040 --> 02:34:15.840
pumping circumstance. Oh my men,
there's nothing racist about it. What the

2314
02:34:15.920 --> 02:34:18.920
brown was? The brown one brown? It was beer brown, beer,

2315
02:34:20.559 --> 02:34:24.200
raspberry wheat, American brown ale,
citrus, have a vison and American pale

2316
02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:28.040
ale. I'm not looking for you
to come up with anything off the top

2317
02:34:28.040 --> 02:34:33.440
of the head. I just wanted
to put that out there. Oh,

2318
02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:37.440
let's see here actually, and I
think that's uh, that's it. I've

2319
02:34:37.479 --> 02:34:39.079
run out of emails. Really,
yep. Thanks to everyone who wrote in

2320
02:34:39.120 --> 02:34:41.719
miss wait, let's run out of
here. But that's gonna do it for

2321
02:34:41.719 --> 02:34:43.719
emails, and that's also gonna do
it for this episode of the Giant Ball.

2322
02:34:46.479 --> 02:34:52.760
Get it on back here in the
podcast room. Don't forget Virtual Fighter

2323
02:34:52.840 --> 02:34:58.600
four and U two thousand and nine
being played on TAT this week. You're

2324
02:34:58.600 --> 02:35:03.040
gonna play VF four on T n
T. We could do it. You

2325
02:35:03.079 --> 02:35:05.040
could have suggested that, but we
were playing virtue a tennis for you just

2326
02:35:05.159 --> 02:35:11.600
said virtual five? Did I say
virtual? We did? We did Virtual

2327
02:35:11.719 --> 02:35:13.639
Tennis four and Virtual Tennis two thousand
and nine are the games that we will

2328
02:35:13.639 --> 02:35:18.840
be playing Fight or two thousand and
nine. That rare s elevision exactly.

2329
02:35:18.680 --> 02:35:22.200
It's all about the Bible. It's
weird, all virtue, all tennis,

2330
02:35:22.319 --> 02:35:24.680
all the time. T and T. Send up an request on the three

2331
02:35:24.760 --> 02:35:28.680
sixty to GBT and T if you
want to play. That's it for our

2332
02:35:28.719 --> 02:35:37.040
business. Uh anything else? Anything? Did he outstanding items on the action

2333
02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:41.239
list here? No leaving that's it. That's it. Thanks for listening.

2334
02:35:41.280 --> 02:35:43.959
We'll be back next week with another
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