All right, take this down. Take this down again. You can't come
off that hot you you? Oh yeah, is this We need a hand
signal if you're gonna fire it off that because it's just gonna be me for
ten seconds going what's up right? This is lurry photos, Flurry Photo.
I'm David Flora. I am a surprise David's echo. Hope everybody's doing all
right. I've got a fun show for you. Yeah. I hope that
you astounded your family with discussions of the true nature and history of Easter.
Yeah, or ishtar or oestra or olestra, o lester does cause an leakage.
Yeah, we're actually recording on Easter, beautiful day, gorgeous Easter.
Um. It sucks because for audio concerns, we have to close all the
windows. Yeah, I mean we were gonna we were gonna take the class
outside and record, but I'm gonna go on a field trip. But the
wind and yeah, we just we couldn't afford to have any background sounds or
anything messing with the quality of our our audio. Nope, not. Everything's
got to be really clean, really crisp. We want to not do any
amplification or mess with the the highs or the lows or anything like that.
So we we just decided to h stay inside and did you did you just
feel something? Did you get colder? And he did? What was that?
That was weird? Okay, well anyway, I thought it was just
me. But today we are discussing EVP. That's right, Electronic voice phenomena.
Yeah, we actually got this. This is a suggestion from our listener.
Yeah. Tom Britten was a very talented podcaster and performer himself. So
cool. Thanks. So see, we're proving the concept, like you literally
just ebark something at us and then we'll do it. We're like a little
show ponies. That's right, We're we're I'm the dog, you're the pony.
Yay, and this is the show EVPs. Man, this is this
is fun. I have heard of this stuff, you know, I've I've
scratched the surface of what it is before this, but I'm glad that Tom
suggested it because it was It's a lot of fun to research. Oh,
it's such a cool thing, and I think I don't think it's one of
those things that you I'll bet you a lot of our listeners have at some
point, like you just once you fall into like a YouTube hole on it
and you just just look at more and more and more of them. Yeah,
or or if you are if you're just channel surfing and you happen upon
one of those like History Channel or Discovery channels, especially around like Halloween.
You can't get anywhere near, you know, the cable centric channels without one
of those things. Yeah, this is this is something that that I bet
has touched you at some point in your life. And there was that movie
with was it Michael Keaton? Is that who it was, the Just White
Noise, White Noise? Yeah? I think that was Michael Keaton. Yeah,
I think I've seen that, but I'm not sure. Yeah, and
they you know, one thing I learned is that, um, I actually
saw that movie I think even in the theaters. And I guess I learned
this when I was doing my research, is that DVD has a whole bonus
section that's all real EVP occurrence is. And all these people who made recordings
that were some of the more famous recordings, we got paid a ton of
money and all all of their their recordings made their way into this movie and
into this bonus track on the DVD. Wow. Yeah, it's something that
I think I will look up and watch here soon, probably probably early in
the morning when it's very sunny out. No, no, no, no,
right before you go to bed, when you're home alone, two o'clock
in the morning. Yeah, you just got done playing Minecraft. Nothing else
is going on, man, that we've been playing a lot of Minecraft lately.
No more. All right, I'm not going to go on in Minecraft.
Nobody wants to hear that. That's our other podcast that we that we
haven't done. So let's let's go into EVP here. What it is,
what causes it, some explanations, even some examples for you. Oh,
this one for this episode, let's tell you straight up, buckle in,
shut the windows, tie up the dog, like really tightly, make some
hot chocolate, get a blanket, whatever, whatever, whatever it takes to
comfort you, because you might have some tears in your eyes. Right,
this one's gonna mess with your kobasa. So for our friends in Peru,
EVP is when human sounding voices or words are heard on recordings or radio station
noise or other electronic media. It's most often captured on audiotape. Now,
the speech or the voices that are recorded aren't necessarily heard at the time of
recording. Yeah, only when the recordings played back. Some of them are,
but the vast majority I think aren't. Yeah, and there are a
lot of people. I was surprised at the approach to EVP. I thought
that it was something that people had accidentally discovered and then kind of like,
oh, we should look into this. Did you hear this? Yeah,
maybe there's a thing here. But it was more the other way around.
It's people have been always, I guess throughout history, have always been actively
trying to communicate with the dead, and so that's driven their research. They're
always trying to create a new manner to doing this, and as a result,
there's actually a fair number of different, very different techniques for encouraging or
creating or capturing electronic voice phenomenon, which I thought that was really interesting.
I just thought it was, oh, wait, we left a tape recorder
in abasement and then when we went back we found some stuff. Right,
But there people are inducing it as well, right, And sometimes amplification and
noise filtration is required in a kind of a post recording setting. You use
some kind of software or machine to amplify to take out some of the high
some of the lows, you know, really boost up what has been recorded
so that they get what is perceived as voices or words. And here's the
fun part. The vast majority of these are claimed to be caused by spirits
of the dead. Yeah, paranormal supporters claimed this is absolute proof of life
after death, and some people even claim that it could be aliens or interdimensional
beings that are that are speaking that these devices are picking up. It's such
an interesting thing because I had such a narrow idea of what this was.
I just I kind of thought it was like just kind of a neat ghost
story trick. Yeah, but learning about this and also the quality and we've
got a ton of clips, ton of audio clips for you guys to listen
to. The quality is so wild. I mean from some of them just
saying, hey, this is stand. I mean, it's just Claire's day
to some you know, to some things being just And I was like,
didn't you hear him say I killed an ardvark yesterday? Right? Like it's
such a crazy uh, the dichotomy, like it just it's all over the
place. And we'll get to why that is, Like why how they classify
it? Things like that. Yeah, there's like a whole codex of how
different varieties how these were recorded. There was one version where they've they've functionally
made an acoustic Guiji board out of the AM band. They have a small
computer box that just hyper scans through the AM band and we'll just let small
snippets of audio that it finds through, I mean like fractions of a second.
And it's thought that this allows of being a spirit or a soul or
what have you, to to use that as a medium to communicate acoustically.
Right. Many times in these cases you'll you're only going to get single words
or short sentences or phrases, and it can be in any language. It
can also be grunts or groans or you know, any any fun thing like
that. Uh well, the spirit of the Dad, please talk to us
right now. We really appreciate it. I didn't get anything. I don't
know. Play back later. What's a ghost forward? The ghost forward?
I'm telling you that if I die, you have to keep doing the podcast,
and then everyone has to listen to them later and you will hear my
spectral farts. Because I am not going to tell you anything about the afterlife.
I'm not giving you lotto numbers. Not telling you where your keys are
hidden. All I'm gonna do is make ghost fart sounds on all of your
recordings forever. I would love it, though, I mean, yeah,
no, I don't. I wouldn't love it if you if you died and
I was like, welcome to blurry photos. This is David Flora and hoping
everybody's doing okay, And then we play it back, I amplify it.
It's like, this is David Flora. I hope everybody's doing okay. You
just have half of a podcast, yes, and it's just static on the
other side. And also the messages that the spirit realm is trying to get
to us are incoherent. Well yeah, in most cases, like well acted
door Knob. Here's the weirdest part though. A lot of times the voices
may respond directly to the people that are recording. So if somebody asks a
question on there, sometimes they get an answer back, yeah. A lot
of times they don't. It's a snippet that might not make sense to them,
but it might make sense in the context of where they are, like
if they're in an insane asylum, if they're in a cemetery, an old
jail, something like that you know, they'll get something like almost had the
keys, you know, or something like that, and they're creepy and we
get and this is this really dovetails nicely with what we were talking about in
our Ghost Taxonomy episode. The difference is in some of these spirits who seem
to be present in the moment in wishing to communicate in real time with the
people that have an agenda, and they're kind of a part of it.
But then there's this feeling that some of these people are unaware that we're there
and they're living out wherever they are, and that we just get a snippet
of it. We just happened to capture something. So again, just like
the ghost, there's there's those ghosts that are you know, in a hotel
and they're just walking from room to room because they're still in their time.
Oh yeah, and you're just seeing a weird reflection of it as opposed to
a ghost that's like throwing shit at you, right, or they might might
not even know that they're dead to right. That's a freaking part. Now,
As we said that, the quality of these recordings is all over the
board. Sometimes just like ours, what are you talking about? We can't
do real mouth sounds to listeners. Help never come back. We do the
fake when we go arm. So sometimes the EVPs are easily understood. Sometimes
it's unclear, but just about every time it's up. Always fun, always
fun, always a good time, like a beer commercial. Sometimes well,
a lot of times it's up to interpretation as to what is being said,
what the words are. It's categorized, as we said, in three classes.
Class A is the easily understood by anybody who listens to it with little
or no argument. These are also the loudest that you get on recording.
I'll leave me alone. That's a good one. You're gonna get a lot
of backwards audio from from Dave tonight practicing all you've been watching all twin peaks.
Oh god, yeah, Agent Cooper, that gum you'll like is coming
back in style. Oh man, alright, alright, that was Thank you
David Flora for letting me do that, all right. Class B is characterized
by some warping of the voices and some syllables. They're generally lower in volume
than Class A, and these are the most common type of EVP. And
then you get class C, which is excessive syllable warping, very low volume.
A lot of times they're whispering. Uh, and this is it's very
hard to understand. Yeah, this is when you're really hitting the basement for
did we did we pick up something? Right? Yeah? What was recorded?
Is that? Is that really just an anomaly? Or is that?
You know? You're I feel like because I listened to so many of these
things now, like when you get to that end of the spectrum, you're
you're just hearing a pattern of sound that us. Then you find a word
with that same syllable pattern, You're like, oh, that's what he said.
Well, and we'll talk about that later too. Um that that's a
little bit under the explanation, realm. But yeah, that's exactly right.
It's just like you you're here, and it's like, did you just say
fuck you? Yeah? You did? I think he did. I think
there's angry ghost man. Hey, Hey, hey ghost, Hey, you
think you're so damned tough? Why don't you come out? Yeah? What's
up? What's up? I'm right here, man. You want to roll,
bro, let's go. You want to hold on? Hold on,
ghost, I'm gonna kill myself and then I'm gonna kick that ghost ass.
What you want, I'll aid you to revide me in ten minutes. Hey,
can you guys have that defiber roids ready? So let's talk about the
history of the EVP. Yeah, real quick. So we've covered this before.
Spiritualism. We've touched out it a couple of times, but it began
in the mid nineteenth century, and it continued into the early twentieth century up
to and including today obviously, but it had its its prime, uh right
around the turn of the nineteen hundreds, right, the paula peculiar if you
will, And that's the belief that spirits could be contacted. Then you get,
yeah, the mediums, the mediums, Yeah, and the ectoplasm and
the butter covered in muslin and muslin. Isn't that with the Muslim Muslim Muslim
musin X, musin X. I mean, what's the difference. It's all
covered in goo and people stuff it in their mouths. I don't know.
You sound like you've had experience, Uh no, with the advent of t
technology. Why are you staring at me with the advent of technology. That's
a cereal though, right, oh right, you're right, right, Usually
it muslin, You're right, it is muslin. But Mucinex is a cereal,
right, No, mucinex is a mucus drug. Oh, what's the
cereal that's like usually musely. I don't think there's also muslicks is the Kellogg's
brand of it? Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. But everyone else in
Europe just eats musely, which is I think what they call granola. I'm
not looking it up. I patently refuse to look this up. So we're
here to wallow in ignorance. All right, I'm fine with that because there's
the thing in the flight of the concords. The man at the kind of
starts to abuse me. Hey man, I just wants amusedly. Well a
good call, yeah call, that's a reference for you. So with the
advent of new technology, there are obviously new ways to communicate with the dead,
including photographing spirits and then I intually recording them. Now this interest you
know, like you said, with the advent of technology, phonographs were invented
to now now people can record kill your family, kill your family. Yeah,
if were they were, it was all distortion. The actual intended recipient
of the recording sounded like a dead ghost. Yeah, America matches to wall
the keys. The first people that try this, they were trying to recording,
try to record on wax cylinders and just just really, I mean did
not come up with anything, which is not surprising. I mean it was
it was hard to capture a man shouting into a cone on those, you
know, they didn't. We won't have a huge amount of gain on those.
Yeah, And so that's why I almost struggle with the idea of saying
that the idea of EVP or EVP started in the eighteen hundreds. It just
didn't because there was nothing to be had. They made it, they tried,
and they didn't even buy their own weird hokey standards, didn't come up
with anything. So it wasn't until you know, the the nineteen forties where
we start to get into magnetically recorded tape in reel to reel, and that's
I think what really kicks it off, or I think I think you got
the torch on this. In nineteen forty one, there was a photographer by
the name of Attila von Zalet who photographed ghosts. I hope you heard the
quotes on that. I saw you did air quotes and when here's the thing.
When you say when he photographed ghosts with air quotes, I'm thinking you
mean naked women. Oh it could have been. I mean, way to
go with They didn't get out in the sun a lot. He tried recording
voices of the dead on a seventy eight RPM record, but he didn't believe
he was successful until nineteen fifty six when he used a real, real recorder.
He actually devised a contraption of a microphone in an insulated cabinet with an
external recorder. So he put the microphone in the cabinet and whatever it was
recording on was outside the cabinet. And I love that. I actually think
that one of the first attempts at EVP is probably to this day, the
best attempt at it, because I mean, that's a great scientific approach.
Like I'm putting it in an a sound isolated chamber. There shouldn't be any
interference, so whatever I hear should be generated by something we don't quite understand.
Yeah, I think that's brilliant. And no one is not as sense,
have they? No, at least not a single person that I found
or a thing that I saw, was treating it like this. So I'm
a huge fan of this guy's approach to it, waiting go. Yeah,
he claimed that he recorded voices on there. When he played it back,
he heard voices where you know, they're no one was in the cabinet and
no one else was in I guess the room that they were were recording in
or anything like that. But unless it was, was the cabinet a divick
box? Come on, man, couldn't help it. East the Eastern episode
turned out okay, yeah, see, but we don't want to put it
all right. Nineteen fifty two, this is a fun one. You get
two Catholic priests that were recording Rigorian chants on a magnetophone and kept having the
wire break on them, so so part of the device was malfunctioning, and
they were getting frustrated, and one of them looked up to the sky and
asked for help me. He's like, he's like, please God help maybe
her father help me. The lord. I mean, as anyone who's ever
tried to like work with like a DVD player that's not quite playing it?
No one, no one raises their hands to this guy and says, hey,
Lord, why don't you help me? That man looked, yeah,
should leave. Oh, that man was swearing. Well, here's the funny
thing. When they played it back after he did that, on the recording,
there was a voice that said, of course i'll help you. I'm
always with you, and he claimed it was the voice of his deceased father,
who so even the Pope was like, I'm cool with that, don't
worry about it. Yeah, he took it to the Pope and the Pope
was cool with it, so you know what I mean. And my buddy
was, you know, we're recording those chants, you know, you know
those guys. Yeah, I think we got something you're gonna want to hear.
We'll see you see. Oh, it's a spooky Every pope is Italian
automatically. Well, they lived there, there's no choice. Even if they're
born in Germany, they're there. It's not right, it's right, you
get your papal accent. I'm played a Gregarian a chance and a voice of
your dead a father. It's it's it's killing the family of our Argentinian pope
that he's now Italian. Yeah, well you take with the good with the
bad, right, Yeah, But man, when he starts showing up at
ac Milan games, that's why they're gonna get rough. Oh, you know
more than I do. Uh. Nineteen fifty nine, you got a Swedish
film producer, Friedrich Jurgensen. Uh, he was recording bird songs and when
he played the tapes back, he claimed to hear his dead father's voice and
his deceased wife. This caused him to make more recordings of the dead he
I think he made a ton of recordings from then on. And then in
nineteen sixty five he met a Latvian writer named Constantine Rootive who experimented with radio
frequency screened recordings and apparently heard voices in a number of different languages, including
German, Latvian, and fringe. So he is isolating his recording here as
well. Yeah, only now he knows he's trying to block it from the
radio frequencies. And he invited outside interpretation and worked with over four hundred people
who listened to these recordings, and he invited them to give their honest,
you know feedback. What did they hear? And apparently one hundred percent of
them heard voices. Huh, just like just like he was. Now.
He said that in addition to the RF screened recordings, the voices could be
recorded even with a disconnected microphone, and that the voice. Some of the
voices spoke rapidly. They've spoken a mixture of languages, and they were in
a definite, forced rhythm, almost telegraph style. That's interesting. Yeah,
I wonder because you do here and a lot of the ones that I heard,
it's always a very strange cadence of speech. It's never I mean not
never, but it's it's rarely just a normal hello. This is information.
It's there's a lot of pauses and breaks or drawn out I think it would
be funny if if the afterlife could only communicate telegraph style. I'm dead,
Stop now, my wife, I love her. Stop the money on the
floorboards, stop, stop stop. So then in nineteen seventy nine you get
a Paris psychologist d. Scott Rogo who described brief, single occurrence telephone calls
from deceased people. This is real fun. If you're a fan of Twilight
Zone, you get an episode all about this. The episode titled night Call
is all about an old woman whose husband had died and she starts getting these
phone calls where there's nobody on the line. When she picks up and says
hello, she starts getting angry and when she picks up, there'd be nobody
on there. It might be a little static. She'd yell at them like
stop, you know, stop calling me, and then eventually you start hearing
this voice saying like hello, Hello, And then finally she calls the telephone
company. They trace the telephone line to a cemetery, and the telephone line
was down because of a storm, so she shouldn't have even been getting calls
at all, but the line was laying on the grave of her deceased husband.
And then she gets excited because well now she can talk, you know,
to her husband. And the next time the phone rings, he's there
and he says, I always do what you say, so you told me
to go away and stop calling, so goodbye, and then she lives the
rest of her life in solitude and sadness. It's it's a real downer.
That's a dick move on the husband's part. I mean, well, if
you say so, I guess I will forever leave. Yeah. I guess
it was set up in the episode that he always like she was very controlling,
always telling him what to do, and he was always taking taking her
ship. So well, yeah, he took it right into the next life
yea, but as a very cool and very creepy twilight Zone, I suggest
you look that one up. It's fun not call, and I'd be interested.
I mean, I think that the probably it's a pretty I mean,
none of this is common, but as these things go. The spectral phone
call, you knowone's heard stories about things like that before. Yeah, yeah,
and that one, like I said, usually brief and single, single
occurrence. Of course, Twilight Zone is going to take a little liberty to
make it as as good as Twilight Zone needs to be. But I think
twice when when you get the telemarketer calling, Yeah, it could be number
if. If you're getting called by a telemarketer, then you already know that
you're speaking to the damn but they may or may not already be dead.
You know another fun thing they dead inside. Yeah. I learned a great
word doing the research for this, because people who deal with this, they
don't want to say people who've died. For some reason, people are very
nervous about the phrase dead. That's just a word. The phrase is you're
dead. Um, the dead. So there's you know, people cross over,
they pass on. My favorite one is I investigate communication with the disincarnate.
Right, Yeah, I really like that phrase. Disincarnate just means they
don't have a body anymore. Yeah, what a wonderful phrase. Thank you
politically correct society. Oh man, the dead get really pissed off when you
call them the dead. Yeah, it's right. Well, you know they
used to be everything's fine and ounce everything's I couldn't put a bit of myss,
Thanks Obama. So in nineteen eighty, fellow by the name of William
O'Neill, here's here's a slick, Willy O'Neill, here's where the old roller
coaster starts, shaking your head up. Clink clink, clink, receive specifications
psychically from dead scientist George Mueller to build the Spirit Calm. He claimed he
was able to have two way communication with spirits. However, no one was
able to replicate it, and they attributed that to his mediumistic ability to close
the loop on the system that he had created with the Spirit Calm. So,
but here's here's what I don't get. First of all, if there's
dead, if there's scientists, that there's disincarnate scientists that are working on it
on their side, right, wouldn't there also be like disincarnate marketing people who'd
be like, what do you want to call it? We're not calling it
the spirit calm. I imagine these guys are from the forties, you know,
they're they're dead. That's that's you know. And they're like, what
should we call this thing? Should we call it the uh, the dead
box? Should we call it the ghost talker? No? No, no,
we'll call it the Victory phone. No, no, no, none
of this adds up. Let's call it U. And he sees like a
billboard, the freedom graph. He sees a billboard for like liquor, and
then he sees like a telephone company billboard right beside it, and he like
glances back at them, and he's like, what if we call it the
spirit calm? Oh hey, I like that. That's kind of catcher,
right, spirit calm. Can we call it the spirit graph? No,
there's already a spirograph it we'll get confusing. We don't know the name.
It's the eighties, remember everything's calms now. Colms Graphs is old time.
Why don't you a dummy? That's yesterday. We'll look another tomorrow, the
future, the future, it's here. I don't ever want to die I
don't want to be surrounded by these jags shout. I get me, you're
a good kid, but not gonna not say um great? So wait,
wait, I do have one more question about the spirit com Okay, now
again, there's a scientist on the other side who wants to have meaningful communications
with the living, so he psychically tells someone who's alive how to build a
phone so that they can talk. That's like me driving a bike to your
house so that we can so you can come over to my house. If
I can get the bike to your house, then you don't need the bike.
I don't see the logic there. If he can psychically communicate with this
guy, why on earth do they need to build a telephone If they're already
in communication, why did they have to build a phone? But what if
it's it's that he wanted a living person to be able to talk to other
people that maybe don't half that psychic connection. But see that it still fails
because only the one he built works for him because of his medium abilities.
All the other spirit comms didn't work. But maybe they didn't know that.
Maybe they thought, well, this guy could talk to God. Let's discuss
this hypothetical, some more just saying I see, I see your point.
I don't like the bicycle analogy. I was not, but I was.
I was not prejudiced against the Irish until we did this podcast. But it
just seems that every time they get involved, shite gets dodgy. Yeah he
isn't O'Neill. Yeah, shite gets dodgy. That's one of the five families,
isn't it. Oh you're right, oh man, So maybe it wasn't
a dead scientist. Maybe it was a bungheem. Yeah, that's five o'clock
somewhere to do a ghost Irish backwards voice in a high degree of difficulty,
Like, damn shit, that is a reverse spring Hill jack slab. Wow.
Wow, it's it just starts off with weird and then it fades away.
All right, so the spear calm right, a bunch of crap um
nineteen eighty two. This is when you get the EVP researcher Sarah E.
Step Now, this is a name that that you're gonna hear about if you
start looking at EVP stuff. She's a big name. Founded the American or
so ciation of EVP to increase the awareness of the subject of EVP and standardized
methods of recording it. She had recorded since nineteen seventy six, and she
she did hundreds of recordings of spirits, discarnate spirits, including relatives. Friends.
Even claimed to have gotten Beethoven and extraterrestrials on there not in English.
Obviously, did you did you hear the Beethoven recording? No? Did you?
Yeah? I've got it? Oh you do? Yeah? I do
really do have it? Should should we play it? Yeah? Like every
good TV show, will that you be the judge of if it's Beethoven or
not or what I'm just gonna play it? Oh, okay. I have
two recordings of Beethoven, one in which he identifies himself as the famous Beethoven.
This is this is what this is what she got, and the other
one is where Beethoven is playing music for her. Okay, okay, and
in the afterlife, Beethoven has more arms than Vishnu because there are a lot
of things being played, and Vishtu's a hell of the pianist. By yeah
he is. Okay, So she does like the introduction of it, okay,
and then she'll play the clip so she'll tell you what you're gonna hear
and then you'll hear it. Oh great personally, scientifically not a very good
way of going about it. But hey, she am I to tell Sarah
she's the one with the tape. I'm just some jackass dick and round with
her computer here. Now, so we've got two. I've got both Beethoven's
introduction and music that he plays for her. Sounds good, all right,
So here we go. I'm lanning. I am major reco recording, not
calling, as I said on anyone, well know, just a regular recording.
And as I am finished, someone comes through and says, you have
the famous Beethoven It did? Yeah, did you get it? Well?
These are hard to listen to, not in headphones. Yeah, you kind
of needed drilling straight into your head. And you in headphones you do hear
something? Yeah, I mean it does sound very twenties, like singing from
a croner's cone. Thing. Well, you know part of this. People
say that it's almost like developing a language skill to be able to listen to
these and decipher them. I have not acquired it. That sounds like sounds
like a lot of high shelf to me. Yeah. Now here's another interesting
thing. These are from the Association of trans Communication. This is a second
recording that Sarah got a bit of music Beethoven was playing for her. Again,
she has like a little introduction that she does. But some of the
things that they mentioned here is that there was a thunderstorm, which Sarah will
mentioned and in the recording to hear that in the background. But also you'll
hear her speaking over it during the while it's playing the EVP portion. Okay,
and it reminds you that she couldn't hear the EVP as she recorded it.
She only came out later. That's important, and I'm gonna we're gonna
come back to that after we listen to this clip. Great, I will
conclude this tape by playing the entire minute of music that was received from him
during this a very latical storm. You will hear the thunder and the lightning
in the background. Sounds like a witch. I have a fund there's time
that I was kind of funds that all right now, I've been on the
Haunted Mansion ride a number of times that I can only believe that Beethoven could
come up with better than that. Here's my question, did Beethoven was he
playing in the entire orchestra, right, I know I heard some fluide in
there. Yeah, I could have sworn there was a English horn. Yeah,
there's some guy playing in the triangle at the end, so maybe bassoon
in there somewhere. But now here's here's here's the path that I take Umbridge
with, and I do take umbridge. She couldn't hear the EVP, but
she references the music she's hearing. What did she say? I couldn't even
make her out the second We'll play it again. We'll just not not the
whole thing, but we'll play she she interrupts the music at first, like
she she doesn't interrupt it. She speaks over it, and then it plays
for another ten seconds, and then she speaks a second time, and and
and references the music she's hearing. Okay, okay, something like please tell
me this music is something, Yeah, she sure does. Yeah, please
tell me this music is from yeah, yeah, And like the first thing
she says, I couldn't understand, but yeah, please tell me this music.
Now we're doing it, but with with the part that we know,
she said, Yeah, we're you know what's funny is part of that?
There are certain snippets of that the piano that comes through that sounds like Moonlight
Sonata, which is a Beethoven piece. But then you get like this radio
style orchestra that's like Mystery Hour, you know. And also the storm in
the background. It's not thundering. You don't hear rain, you hear the
the ethereal like like, yeah, like studio effects for spooky time. To
me, it sounded it sounded affected. Yeah, so interesting. I'm glad.
Interesting, glad that you referenced that, and I actually happen to have
it on deck. So cool. Cool. That has been the peak of
what this stuff was has been building two and people have been researching and going
out for the stuff fervently since then. And in fact, I'm sure you'll
you'll get all kinds of Discovery Channel shows and History Channel shows that that you
can find more of this stuff on, you know, with people. As
the technology improves, so too do these EVPs. Who knows, But that's
a long toothed history, yeah of it. Now that we've played a couple
of clips here for you, I want to play some more clips. Okay,
I want to I want to get into this stuff. Let me let
me bring up one for you, all right, all right, So this
one, uh, we're gonna play it and then I want to see what
you think it says or what it is. One. This is one that
you're bringing to me to blow my mind with. Okay, I see all
of you, you, all of me. Oh that a little whispery Okay,
So it's right at the end, right at the end. Let's let's
play one more time for you, all of you. All right, Yeah,
I did something, Yeah, I did. I did. I mean
I had to listen to it for a few times. And I think you're
right with the people who developed that ear to kind of yeah, because again
it's worth repeating that the people making these recordings can't hear, right, and
they're just heaving their discussion. Yeah, as normal, but right, and
and if you missed it, don't blame you. Just the very end of
that of that clip you hear it's it's a whispered woman's voice. What do
you think it say? Is I only heard like the money or like an
inhalation, like at least that's that's a theory, Like it sounds like the
money, you know, like you you can hear that that whispered kind of
thing. I mean, do I also think that that could have been literally
the sound of cloth rubbing on itself. Yes, here's the description of it.
The researchers went to the attic of a house that they were recording in,
and the researcher were just and someone else was discussing the best location for
emotion activated camera apparently, and then right after they decided on the angle,
it says, a voice was heard on playback saying, take the money,
honey. I didn't I didn't hear it. I didn't hear that. So
now we're conducting our own psychological experiments. So now that you know all that,
we're going to play the club again. And remember the part you're listening
for is just the last three or four seconds. Yeah, and it's supposed
to say take the money, honey. All right, let's let's jam this
out again. I see all of you, see now, I do hear
it? Do you hear it? Yeah? Weird? Yeah, that is
all right. This one was recorded in Reno, Nevada, Okay, by
Tom and Lisa Butler, who are also very accomplished researchers. Yeah, researchers
EVP pursuers. Yeah, if they need a name, don't they? Yeah,
but they so they went to this house in Reno, Nevada, and
they will they'd walk through and this is this is they get more of an
interactive thing. They're not looking for those passive sounds, like they ask questions
out loud. They try to get a directive response. And so and you'll
hear them speak in this one. You know, you'll you'll hear them.
They'll talk and you'll hear the quite direct reply. Okay, great, do
you not want people here? Oh? All right again, Yeah, let's
let's start one more time. Do you not watch people here? Now?
Well, now, mister Floyd, Now this is kind of a game of
gotcha journalism when I ask you what you hear? So, but I'm curious.
So on the surface, I hear we found Jimmy Duranti living or living
disincarnate or I'm Reno, Nevada. I think I hear something like I want
you to die or something like that. Okay, something you're you're you're you're
real close to it. And again I like this, I mean, like
I say, you're really close to it, like there is some well like
like there's some perfect alabaster answer. But we're saying that in terms of what
the researchers have put forth as what they've decided it is. That's true.
Their expert opinion, Yeah, is that and then we're comparing our answers to
them that the uh, the expert opinion of the butlers is that it was
saying prepare to die. Oh you want to hear that one more time,
let's armed with the knowledge. Do you not want people here? I'm sorry,
that sounds like some stupid goth teenager. Yeah that's dead, but takes
himself way too seriously in death. Still yeah, now they they think that
they're spoken by a Southern gentleman, which sounds like prepared to die. I
won't lick my teeth. Yeah so yeah, that's quigg Yeah all right,
fun, fun, all right. Uh, let's let's get my next one
going. All right, see what you think of this one? All right,
real short, it's real short. And again now see that this game
is not entirely fair. But since some of the one operating the computer,
I see what the file is named? Yeah so, which is kind of
this dead giveaway. But this isn't me. We didn't discuss yet. If
I if the file hadn't been named who are you? I would not have
come up with that, really, I would have just thought it was just
yeah. And this is another interesting thing. So not only do you have
these this people speaking different languages, different cadences, but some of these are
very sing songy. They're almost they're almost sung. That type of cadence in
itself puts me in the mind of a very forties or thirties type of Yeah,
I agree, you no talk that. I feel like whenever you you
hear it's almost uh, it's almost Roosevelt esque, you know how they talk.
And I'm like this, I have nothing nor her broad fair, you
know, stuff like that. But right, all right, so it's supposed
to be saying who are you? And you're right, it's very sing song
it's like you yeah, which is also kind of like tiptoes along the old
google right, yeah, that kind of. But it also it also straddles
the sing songy old timey cadence, right, which which is again, yeah,
I mean people talk that way. Yeah. And was that a direct
question to the people to the living or was that a snip, a relic,
a piece of that was energy? Yeah, that was imprinted in the
area. Fun fun though. Yeah, okay, all right, I'm ready
to keep trucking here. This is a really good one. This is a
clear one. Cool now this one. I am going to give you a
little heads up on not to the content. I'm not going to mess with
our results of our very scientific study. But this actually was one of those
uh, this is one of those superstars. This was included in those those
DVD extras for white Noise. Wow. Okay, so ready we're going from
here. It again sounds like a kid's voice. We're going from What did
you get out of that when mister Flora could grief? It's like beck SIDEX
or something like that. You're you're, you're, you're on it, You're
you're on the trail. Maybe he says museelex, he says museelecx. Uh.
It sounds like a kid to me. It sounds like a child's voice.
Does it say? Does it distinguish? No, it sounds I hear
like it's a woman's voice or a child's voice. Okay, um, I
hear them both. Is the same thing. I always think that whenever a
woman calls me, I'm like, who gave you kids a phone? Why
don't you have a job. The phrase was identified as Betty's in there when
they say we're moving into a room and and the voices Betty's in there.
Yeah, let's try it again now now that you're armed with this knowledge,
I got close with bes. But but also this, this is a really
good one. This actually has a wave file here and you really see where
it. Yeah, like the the very clear the audio form shows for the
three. Yeah, let's try it again. We're going heard at that time,
right, Yeah, I heard at that time. This is it's really
interesting. We're gonna we're gonna delve into this in just a little bit.
We've got a few more clips because the clips are fun fun. Oh yeah,
so we're gonna play a couple more, but we're gonna get into some
psychology with with this. That's just terribly interesting before we do, so,
let's throw another one at you. Here. I'm gonna walk down try and
find Brian. So let me look here. Time stamp is eight twenty three,
So at eight twenty three, I am now leaving God. I okay,
all right, man, with some class A for you who gird gird
al. Yeah, they even loop it back and yeah, just to make
sure because he gives you your sphincter, wasn't tight enough at that point the
yeah, this was the juicy Yeah, that one. That one is spooky
as all. Hell I am. I don't ever want to hear that voice,
not not on a recording, not in real life, not in a
movie. That motherfucker ain't playing, you know, piano canshert toes in the
rain, not at all. No, he's got a message for you.
Yeah, and it's I'm gonna eat your soul. God. Pretty cool,
huh he He sounded like like you interrupted him from raping a demon. Yeah
like that. Whatever. Whatever the thuggist mother ghosts in the world are,
that's one of them. Yeah, God, pretty cool. Yeah you okay,
Well you're definitely at the top of the scoreboard for spooky times. Now.
I picked this one because it's it's uh, it's I thought it was
really clear. Well we're needing some of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think we need I actually have some that are even muddier.
But I don't see the point of it. So you can be like,
oh, that's thanks for that audio clip of nothing. Yeah. Well,
I mean I think we've already we've already showed an example of even the three
classes. I think there's been A class, AB and C. Yeah so
far. So yeah, let's let's see what it's what you got? All
right, So, uh, we'll play that again. Then I'll give you
the whole story there. Okay, now you're never this one. This one
doesn't you can't even play the guessing game here because it sounds Spanish. Yeah,
there's a word in there that you'll never know. It's functionally made up.
Okay, the little girl, you hear the toddler in the middle,
are they going to say? Her name is Kalia? Wow? And so
the voice says, Kaliah. Yeah, this little girl's uncle had died and
for whatever reason, the mom decided she was going to try to talk to
him. Yeah, so we'll play this one more time. So that's literally
what he's saying, is her name Kaliah? Yeah, Hi Kalia? Okay
wow. Yeah that's pretty clear. Yeah. Also sounds sounds like it was
it was said with effort. Yeah, it does seem like choke effort to
say it. Yeah, so that's interesting. Okay, what else you got,
Flora? But I got I got one more for you. You won,
You've won the Battle of the Network Stars here because all all the ones
you have are clear and spooky as butt. Well, I've got one to
to cherry top it off there. Okay, all right, let's see here.
There's nothing more terrifying than the laughter of babies. Yeah, can it
be more terrifying if it's dead babies? No, disincarnate babies. Dude,
we don't use the D word. That one's pretty clear. You don't.
You don't have to play that them again. No, that that is taken
at a cemetery at night, in the children's section. I mean it's that's
supposed to be like the baby part. Uh and according to the to the
researchers, no babies around, nothing, nobody around at the time. So
you get wind and then you get crying. That's pretty rough. Huh.
Yeah, not a fan, Yeah, man, that was That's a maccabre
gallery. Yeah, it really is. But there was one when I was
looking through this website that you had found that had all these amazing I mean
I thought that I hit the mother load, but you had crushed me.
And uh, while we were kind of adjusting our gear here, I was
just kind of clicking through it and and and I'm not we discussed this.
I'm not saying this as some sort of lame teaser, but there is one
on here that is so powerfully disturbing that we're actually not gonna play it.
Yeah, we're not. We're not gonna We had a discussion here, we
stopped recording, we talked it over, and we're not actually going to play
it. It's uh and and this is this is not as bullshit with you.
It's not as being like, oh, let's let's make it seem like
this thing's really something cool that we like to discuss. No, no,
this thing, this thing will haunt you. This this clip, um,
it's hard to describe without i mean getting creepy anyway. But I mean,
how do how do we even how do you even tell you how how creepy
it is without just telling you how creepy it is? Yeah, it's it's
the voices of several different people, Yeah, several different something. Yeah.
There's there's like a child's voice, there's a super spooky, extra deep voice,
and then like a woman's voice. Yeah, and then there's like a
different man's voice, and they're all they're like some of them are talking over
each other, and they're all saying either I can't breathe or I couldn't breathe
and then and then there's like fifteen seconds of you hear water thrashing, like
like someone was being I mean, maybe I'm just filling this in. Yeah,
Like and that's I think I think we should stop there because it's it's
creepy enough as it is. Yeah, just just even talking about it,
but I think it is is unbelievably disturbing. If if you're if you're on
fuego and if this sun is still up, like you can send us an
email. We'll send you the link. Like we're not send us an email,
Well, we will send you the what the link to this clip and
you can judge for yourself, but you are warned doubly over right. Keep
in mind our podcast is about the unexplained and Irish accents and and and this
is the first time we've actually had to have a discussion about like like this
is too dark for what we do. This is this is a little this
is this goes a little deeper than we ever want to get involved in a
thing. Yeah, And it's so that's that was our decision that like we're
we're we're Diggie Toots makers. That's what we do. We'll tell you about
this, but we're not going to subject you to it, right, I
mean, I'm telling you right now, Bob Mears, he's gonna want to
hear it. Greg Box can want to hear it? Bahama Mama probably not,
No, don't even ask um. So, I mean, sorry for
all the cryptic like, right, No, it's not it's not our intention
to do that in some sort of marketing or or or idiot way. Right.
We're better than that, so are you. And yeah, this is
it just hit that weird spot where it's it's dark enough that we didn't want
to play it, but it was interesting enough that we had to talk about.
So I just kind of hit that weird spot. And in this subject
matter, since it's we're gonna start launching into some explanations. God yeah stuff,
Yeah, maybe we can. Maybe I want to sleep well tonight.
So let's let's make this somehow turn out to be bullshit. Please, So
for certain nobody knows what causes this, what it is. That's I mean,
that's the bottom line. There are many theories and explanations. The simplest
obviously voices of deceased people. Yep, okay, so that's explanation one.
Yeah, that they are using the electromagnetic energy that you know that the paranormalists
have been talking about for years. They almost made fun of They kind of
made fun of it in Ghostbusters with the Pke meter. But paranormal investigators use
em detectors all the time. It's like their go to and why not?
So and this is an electromagnetic recorded phenomena, So that's plausible if ghosts can
can can if spirits can affect that energy? Okay, there's explanation one number
two we got could be voices from another dimension, maybe maybe a parallel dimension
to our own that we sort of pick up on. Could be gen,
could be gin. Yeah, why not? I didn't see that anywhere listed
in here, but it sure falls under what we talked about. Yeah,
yeah, it could be fun with us ship Oh man, then Jan's always
working with us. It could be this is sort of along the same lines.
Voices are angelic or demonic in nature? All right, and we in
you know another word for it? Yeah why not gin? Yeah exactly,
And I guess if you it seems like a lot of editorializing to say that
that's demonic or angelic, but you do get like the sing song e ethereal
voices. You get the the ror voices that are going here good. You
get Sam Elliott, and sometimes you haunt the ghost. Sometimes the ghost haunts
you. Sometimes you have too much beef for dinner. We love you Andrew
and your mustache, Sam Elliott. Here's a very popular concept, and probably
with good cause. It's a hoax, straight up, straight up fraud or
prank. I think that we've done a good like. I'm gonna go ahead
and say the Beethoven music is just a really clumsily executed hoax. Okay,
okay, I've got a theory about it, which is coming up in the
next explanation myself. But yeah, why not? Could could be? Yeah,
could could absolutely be. I just didn't like that that lady seems so
satisfied that she found someone who identified themselves as the famous Beethoven in English.
Yeah, yeah, it's always in the language that you speak. Yeah,
well, not always, but yeah, in that case. Anyway, these
things, to me, it's like the UFO phenomenon. A few people see
UFOs and maybe they do see real UFOs, but then all of a sudden,
you get photoshop in there, you get final cut, you get after
effects. Oh man, and you know you're both throwing in like discs on
strings frisbees, and we are as a society at because at this point,
yeah, right, it's over. I mean like there's it's photoshop and and
editing and things like that. I mean, the time for conclusive proof is
gone now, Like there's no such thing anymore, honest conclusive. Yeah,
the next explanation I've got makes a lot of sense scientifically. It's electronic device
interference maybe maybe from a CB radio or a baby monitor, or a radio
frequency transmissions radio reception, cross modulation, ionized atmospheric particle that reflect radio waves,
walkie talking, these TV's, cell phones. I mean, you name
it, we got it out there. That's true. There's all kinds of
stuff that's floating around in the air. Now. I actually have a very
have a real example from my life of this. I do too. You
go first, when I was in Colorado, I worked in a shop and
we had, you know, just some speakers up on the wall and we
were closing up and we know that we heard like a voice say something.
We only don't heard it like once, and so we were like, is
there someone in there? Turn all the lights back on, go through the
whole building. No one's in there, and that Yeah, We're like,
I mean, me and my friend Pat, we both heard it, and
we're like, and Pat, my friend totally one hundred percent believer in in
everything. Paran Noldman, He's like, ghosts, it's ghosts. We're aft.
So we just got the hell out of there. And then about a
week later, during the day again we hear we heard voices. Long story
short, somehow we were picking up a CB radio from a truck in our
speakers and every and then like because this this truck didn't just drive by it,
it stopped at a light or something in the neighborhood, and we heard
more of the conversation and we're like, holy crap, that's it's a CB
radio speakers and somehow, through science and technology, it was coming into our
our our stereo speakers in the shop. That's That's exactly what my story is.
I was. It was random when I was in high school and my
family and I would be watching TV or on a computer or whatever, and
we would just all of a sudden, get this bullfighter here, come back?
Who was out there riding the waves denied come back? And it would
it would literally mess up the the picture on the screen, and it would
come through clear enough to hear every single word through the speakers, and it
would it would do that on on TV or computer, anything that was on
that had speakers on it, that that would come through. And it's the
mother trucker looking for any runaways going back. I'm looking for a convoy.
If you're here, Um, there's no more convoy jokes on this channel.
You just get the out of here. Over. It was our next door
neighbor who had a CB radio and we, I mean we had to talk
to him to be like, listen, dude, you can't just broadcast at
at eight pm, you know, every weeknight. We're trying to enjoy some
quality primetime entertainment on our electrical devices and you're just just blasting over every signal
in the neighborhood. And he literally was and he's like, oh, sorry,
you know, and he cut back, but like I didn't realize I
was c being so hard. So yeah, that that kind of stuff that
that yeah, literally literally happens, although we never for once thought, oh,
these are voices of the dead trying to contact you know, truckers out
there. Yeah. Yeah, And and I can see. I mean you're
you're stationary and someone is in a truck and they're they're mobile at a rate
of speed. If you're near a highway, you are going to get like
this, this fade in two seconds of words and fade back out, you
know, like you're gonna get that Like, Yeah, that really fits the
pattern. I think that's completely plausible. Yeah, but there was no water
in that basement, Flora, We're gonna have to work harder. I'm not
even touching that. I'm done with that. This Also, I think it's
funny with the Beethoven example, because who's to say there's not either remnants of
or current streams of radio transmissions out there carrying music or you know, advertisements
or whatever whatever has been recorded and transmitted. It could be bouncing around in
the sky right now. So for somebody to pick up just music like that.
Yeah, Yeah, radios transmit music twenty four seven. Yeah, you're
always gonna you're gonna you're gonna get those things. You get an atmospheric inversion
and suddenly, I mean, am radio, Uh you can go everywhere.
I mean there's yeah, I mean that example, I'm just like that.
That is a snippet of of a radio station that is playing classical music.
Yeah, you know if if not hoaxed the basement water that that thing has
no explanation. I it's freaky. It exists solely for people who sleep too
much. It's here that and you don't have to worry about it splits me
into two camps, and and they're not even gonna war with each other,
fight or flight. Yeah, basically, Um, so let's talk about a
couple of the psychological aspects. Yeah, now, this is this is important.
And we were we were dabbling in this with our with our game about
trying to hear it. Um, yeah, so this is this is I
love this because I think that you might agree, especially if you do any
looking of your own on the internet, so you can find tons and tons
of these EVP audio files. Um, don't look for video files on YouTube.
It's just a waste of your time. I mean, it's just it's
just a waste. But you're going to run across this as well. Floor.
I hit them with the science. The first one we got, the
first phenomena, hit them harder. It's called paradolia. This is a psychological
phenomena of recognizing patterns, shapes, and familiar objects and otherwise vague or random
stimulus. It's um, it's the brain trying to make sense out of nonsensical
input. It's it's it's looking for shapes in the clouds. Yeah, classic
example, also rorscheck tests. Oh yeah, the ink blots. I don't
know how they get all those naked pictures of my mom, but but they
do, they do, and they're they're everywhere. It's standardized. Now this,
this one, I'm gonna can happen with any sense. Doesn't have to
happen with your ears or eyes. Right. You can get a suggestion of
a touch or some pill or something like that too. Now I've seen that
this is it's a type of something called apophenia, which is the unmotivated seeing
of connections, in other words, finding significance in meaningless data or events.
And I think that includes hindsight bias. Oh yeah, yep. And this
you're you're going to hear a term called priming when you get into this.
Yeah, And it's a suggested sense or something something called priming that increases something
being understood by your brain. So this is why we say we can't make
out what these things say. But then when we get a suggestion of oh
it's saying you know, McKees fell down the grate. Then we're like,
that's exactly what it's saying, right, Yeah, Or you get a snippet
of the story. Yeah, you don't even necessarily need to have them say
what you heard, but you say, oh, this was this happened in
the mechanics garage, or you lose Yeah, and forever he was damned to
toil and work on a hydraulic system that no one could save, and there
he sits alone at night, damning himself and cursing the fate that have brought
him here the hell's mechanics chap. But you can't. Yeah, just having
the context, your brain will fill it in. Yeah, so that's the
psychology behind it, which I can totally get behind. See, I'm a
big fan of the EVP folks. Yeah, because more than anybody else so
far. I mean, these are guys that are that are really trying to
give it a scientific breakdown, and they're into it and most everything that you're
going to find is not for profit. They're they're not making any money.
In fact, it costs a lot of money for them to do this.
Yeah, that equipment is not cheap. Yeah, case in point, this
podcast right right exactly, not not cheap to produce. All right, So
I got one more explanation that I really like. All Right. I don't
claim that it's a viable at all, but I really think it's cool.
What if this stuff is subconscious projections of researchers thoughts imprinted on the tape of
the device. I thought that was cool because then it could explain some of
the answers that people get, could explain just crap that's going through somebody's head.
Yeah, I mean I kind of like and don't like that. Yeah,
I mean that's to me that explanation falls into their bucket of like,
well, we came to find a ghost, but I secretly think someone's telekinetic
in the house, like you can't. I Yeah. This this one,
though, I think, is applied more from an outside perspective as opposed to
the evpers thinking that they are doing this. Yeah yeah, I'm just I
mean it's possible, but I mean, how what a terrible intersection of looking
for one mystery and the answer as another one, you know, like that's
that's that's bad luck. So that's that's what I got for for EVP.
That's that's an a wave form. Nutshell. Yeah, thanks thanks again Tom
for for putting us on this path. It's it's fun. Yeah, I'm
in and we're gonna I mean, if you get the Stones email us.
Hey did you hear that? Shut up? No, wait, let me
play this back. I think it's I think that's a sound of puns.
Oh god, alright, I'm not going to classify these puns. Actually,
wait, wait, we're gonna terrify you with our puns. Who starts.
We left a microphone in the basement of of Uncle Fire's chuckle Hut outside of
Saint Louis, Missouri. It's it's a sixty year old comedy book club,
and we left it for three days and we came back. These puns were
the only thing on the on the tape, No, I was just setting
up puns. That wasn't even my pun. So so I'm starting. Yeah,
all right, all right, I think this is going to be a
class C pun. Okay, it's an event when your computer presents you with
more options than just okay or cancel or save. It's ECP Electronic choice phenomena.
Oh god, pretty bad quality. Well, you know, I'm gonna
get mine. I'm gonna get my EVP one out of the way too,
Okay, okay. In the early nineties, power tools really took off and
everyone was enjoying them. But and no one liked to spend all the time
cranking. You know, if you had to hold something in place on your
work bench, you know, it took forever to turn that crank and get
it to tighten up. And Black and Decker was the first person to step
in and automate that, which kicked off the entire electronic vice phenomenon. Kill
me who Yeah, Black and Decker, your turn. Okay, So you
know how we're talking about that psychological phenomenon of pardolion. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. I've got a third party presidential candidate from the afterlife. His name
is Ross Parolia. He just in whatever he says you just have to interpret
as making sense. Yeah. I like that. It's Ross Pero still alive
though I think he is, and I'm still getting miles out of it.
It still counts, all right. I've got a I got a pretty good
one. Oh good? Is it? Class ad? It might be.
I'll leave it to I'll leave it to the audience to determine this okay topical.
Yeah, it's a it's a movie trailer. William O'Neill had it all
a job, a house, a car, and everything changed when he started
hearing the voice of George Mueller a ghost. Not only does George want him
to stop everything to build a machine to speak to the dead, but he
also wants him to ask his daughter out on a date. This spring the
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