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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experienced
podcast. We go in fact, you

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are listening to the Getting Salty Experienced
podcast. Thank you Pete for chiming in.

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Welcome back to you Get Salty Experience
podcast. It's the only one that

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you know. That table roof,
the one that holds the weight of a

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thousand stories. I don't know,
there's a lot of one. It could

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be a couple of styles. Every
world problem. Bro, you're talking about

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divorce, sports, news, politics, You talk about it all at the

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kitchen table, and there's only one
like it. And I don't give a

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shit what these other guys said.
There's only one place to see it.

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It's right here. Well, you
carbon copied some seminar bitches. There's only

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one original, right tank, Welcome
back. That's what happened to tanking?

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What happened? I'm here, I'm
here. You know you're away for a

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while. We are you marrying one
of your cousins? What were you doing?

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I did that last year. We're
almost had a year for that though.

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Come off for congratulations, bro,
Nice to see your smiley face back.

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Any guys who had come back I
did. It's going the other way

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instead of the other way. Oh
you did well, God bluss you in

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what you got? A little six
head working as six? Seven? Thanks?

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You know eight? Maybe it just
depends. Beautiful day today. How

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was it up there in God's Country? Oh it's great today, gorgeous?

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Right? Wou'd you do? Chops
and wood? Or I was working in

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the gun getting the garden ready and
you had you had the sandals with the

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black socks on. Very nice.
You had the guinea tea right beautiful and

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I to do it they do alright? Anything new? What you take before

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we move on? Just doing it? Love it doing comments from that crazy

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shit show we had the other day. I had a lot of guys call

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him said it was very funny.
I've not had I've not had the opportunity

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to go back and check it out
yet. But I'm making what I want.

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I want to just give a quick
shout out quick to the uh.

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I have actually met captain tonight at
when you go for your annual medical right

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to trade center health. What's going
on? What do you got to take

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your medicine or something? Yeah?
Oh yeah, take your medicine. Yeah,

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but I just changed Bird special.
I'm missing the early bird special.

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Uh So That's where I met Capt
Rainey there, and I just wanted to

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shout out to all the girls at
in Middletown because they do a great job

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to counseling unit. All the girls
they had, they take your blood,

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do everything there. So I'm sure
you yeah, oh Middletown. I had

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a problem up there in Middletown.
I had a problem then, you know.

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Yeah, by this I need don't
like anybody else. Yeah, I

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want to ask one question. I
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know a lot of guys listened to it,

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a lot of work. You mean, I think it's it's just a couple

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of idiots shooting the ship, but
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Nice doesn't and listen. Also,
for all you guys who reached out to

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me on Facebook, semi well wishes
the nutbag is doing a lot better.

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I really appreciate it. Thrun the
men's kangaroos, run the men's Yeah,

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it doesn't look like this anymore.
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school health and safety tip tonight.
I'm not even gonna read this one.

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I thought this one about myself,
and this really is aimed I mean at

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volleys, but also guys taking details. Dude, don't throw you dirty,

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filthy gear in the car where you
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Bro, be yourself a favor.
Spend a couple of shekels and go

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buy gear bag. You know there's
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amount of protection. Don't don't do
it, you know, go to like

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a boys at one source they have
gear bags. We gave one away at

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Indie. Don't throw all a contaminated
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whole wife and failing fits a lot
of guys in the fdmy. They gave

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us the bags, and guys use
the bags. I know that. I

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remember when they did that. Yeah, that was pretty late. Yeah.

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I meanwhile, you know you're you're
you're leaning your helmet on the kid's cost

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seat, you know, your dirty
hood, something like that. Enegis,

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don't do it. That's it.
You got anything else before we bring up

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guessing? Thank you, Winkie.
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We love it when you do it, and it's a way to get your

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comment put on the screen and your
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it for the pre show. I
think it's time we bring this man here

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and waiting bring Roy. I'm ready
with your yeah, yeah, all right,

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straight from I think he's still working. He's seventy seven or seventy eight,

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he's still working at the Counseling Unit. Captain Bob Rainy Top Welcome.

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I'm working at the counseling unit.
This is a judgment free zone, please,

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so don't okay, I was gonna
have to do a lot of work

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here, you know, Nah,
not at all. All right, take

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let's do it. Let's us if
any baby do it? Oosy can you

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see by the dnslylight what so bridly
we held at the twine lights lastlyming whose

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broad stripes and bright stars through the
proless find or the ramparts we watched were

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so gallus lee streaming and the rocket
rackla, the bombs fasting game froof through

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the that our flags there, oh
say us? That StarSpangled begad what?

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Or the land, oh, the
friend and the home of the bread full

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wonderful? What a great country?
Bro? Even this guy come on,

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man, can't fuck it up.
Bro. As hot as he's trying,

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he can't fuck it up. Man. Yeah, all right, here we

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go. Let's get let's get an
old time machine cap. Let's go back.

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Uh, well you got on at
seventy three. But tell us about

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a little about early life for Katherine. Here where'd you grow up? What

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you tak grew up in Brooklyn?
And my first one of my first memories

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as a child was an Amilans fox
pump up hooked up to the fire hydrot

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in front of the house. And
there was a lumber yard fire brea across

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Steve from my house. And I
was probably four, maybe five. It's

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funny, one of my first memories
and that kind of stuff. First big

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fire I went to. My father
noticed the smoke. He happened to be

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home is the middle of a week. I don't remember why he was home,

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but he saw a big column of
smoke and get mean, come on,

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let's go see what's violent. And
of course I was already fire department

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crazy and I was ten at the
time, and we took over turned down.

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It was the lucome back of pier
fire in downtown Brooklyn at thirty first

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Street and East River, and that
kind of stuff. We got within I

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don't know, ken block, twelve
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explosion, right yeah, remember,
well, I guess it still is the

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largest explosion in the history of New
York. And what I remember the most

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was the all the glass shattering and
all the windows all around me and my

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father parked the cart and his people
on the street and streaming and all this

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other stuff. And he had no
training at all, but he knew that

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he did the right to trying to
calm people down and stuff. We saw

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that was he a buff like he
was he on the job. I mean

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just every now and then you see
smoke or something to decide that he was.

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So that's how you got ye any
family, and I was on the

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job. Now I have a grandson
that's in Philadelphia now, But it was

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the first and only we used to
laughter. There was only one other rain

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in the whole New York City via
an apartment and he spelled his name different.

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Oh, so did you come from
a big family or just uh,

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you come from a big family?
Cap or no? Just my sister and

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I mom and dad. Typical Brooklyn. You know, if you ever seen

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Ralphie on Christmas Story, that was
my life. Don't put your tongue on

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the pole. Yeah all right,
so you got bit by the bug early.

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You saw a couple of fires living
in Brooklyn. So you decide what

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were you doing at the time when
you took the test? I was,

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you know, school and that kind
of stuff. I when I got a

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high school again, a job,
I get job right away. You know

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what parents couldn't have voted some my
college or nothing. And I got a

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job with insurance company on the Union
Square, and I was going crazy,

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and so I started hanging out in
the Ladder three on thirteenth Street and Third

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Avenue, and then got friendly Jack
Foberty was there for for like forty years,

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and then I got friendly with Jack
and they were they were gonna They

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found out I was leaving the Vietnam
and the Navy, and they said,

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come and have a meal in the
firehouse. So I went there, droving

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from Brooklyn the car and stuff and
eating the finished dinner up and box comes

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out in for them and they go
out the door. So I walked out

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to the house watch to seeing what's
going on, and they gave a ten

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thirty, which and why back then
they went too Yeah, well it was

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just we got jobs. That's basically
what it was. And uh, and

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so I hopped on the call.
I headed towards it and it was Broadway

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in West twenty thirry Street, okay. Uh. Eventually the famous twenty thirty

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collapsed. I was there, and
I just why I was there, just

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one of those things and standing out
on twenty third Street just buffing the fire

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a few other buffs and some cuffs
and stuff, and all of a sudden,

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big mess of cloud of dust and
smoke, and we came out of

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building. We really didn't know what
happened. UH three truck had gone into

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the basement of under the Wonder Drugs
and so I I knew they were down

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there, and they can they can
sprambling out and they were in the heart.

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I heard later what had happened.
One of the senior members from UH

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I think it was sixteen engine was
in it's five engine, was in the

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cellar. They left him at the
door. He said, something's wrong.

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Get out, guys. And they've
saw they saw the process of getting out

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when it collapsed. And you don't
even on the job, and you've been

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to you don't even on the job, and you've been to two major fires,

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and it's just you know, why
I was there that night, it

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was just happened. You know,
I had no way to know that,

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you know, I thought, I'm
just gonna go have a meal in the

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firehouse and was pulled it very nice
to them, you know, and that

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kind of stuff. And it turned
out the bet this tragedy, And did

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that change your mind at all?
Maybe what I what I saw what they

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did. And some guys turned around, got out, turned around the helmet

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and went right back there. The
guys some of them lost a helmet.

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They had no straps and such.
So the compression of the bellows, effect

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of the floors collapse and blew their
helmets off and that. And so the

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guys that had no helmets they grabbed
one from one of the engine company chauffeurs

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or something like that, right back
into the in there. That's the brothers

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man. But they started down and
they were not getting to them, got

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to them. Fire spread the entire
building. You could watch the fire.

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It formed like a shaft through the
building. You can see the flag or

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a floor floor of war. And
then and then they looked up and the

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three trucks aerial was up to the
roof of the building and they see all

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these guys scrambling off the roof and
they got down and not long after the

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roof collapse. So they curl lost
you know it lost twelve, They curl

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lost thirty. Yeah you know,
yeah, yeah. The pictures of that

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tight did did the captain send any
of those? OK? Yeah, I

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had some pictures like you have some
I think which one was it? I'm

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sorry, twenty thirty street. Yes, that's the day after the collapse.

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That's after that's what That's basically what
they were looking at from. That's from

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a joining building looking down onto the
collapse area. Wow. Another another view

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of that. Yeah, that's the
one. The drugs drugs. Yeah,

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yeah, it was a a wholesale
drug place. And what they had done

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is they they were wearing the floors
away with cots with the drugs, and

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so they put a terracotta flora it
right right right, and and the fire

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was raging below them in a portion
of the seller that you couldn't really access

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from the twenty third street side,
and they were on top of their and

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the additional weight at the terracotta and
everything like that had been He done,

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talks a lot about it. He
was there and it went out from underneath

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him, and he couldn't figure out
where they were, and turned out a

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guy from a fire patrol through the
building and threw them a diagram where they

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might be right to get around the
back or fire patrol keeps coming up lately.

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Well, you know, I had
worked there, and you want to

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hear something interesting. I used to
teach Fast Team operations. It was up

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in George of Vermont, Yeah,
Saint Alban's way up off the Lake Sham,

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playing there and doing a thing on
FASTEAM operations, and a guy I

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was talking about this fire and how
there was no fastinams back then, and

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a guy put his hand out.
He's living up in Bemont. I get

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the same kind of rough to dig
for them chances that's great. There was

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no chance of that, so he
you know, so I got another perspective

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on that and kind of stuff.
You know, it's still learning the things

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about that for I know, that's
what triggered then he done to be such

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a student of building Collabal. Yeah. Yeah, But like Louis Lewis was

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asking, before you did it make
your think twice about going on the job

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After you saw that, I saw
what how much I cared for each other,

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And that's what made me want to
be a fireman. I mean,

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I always was fascinated with the lights
and the thing as a kid would be.

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But there I was, you know, there's a young adult almost as

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you know, like twenty and and
after I got out of Navy, it

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kept me going alf of Vietnam and
stuff that I want to come back and

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want to go on to fight a
bob. My mother even sent me an

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ad. They were given the test. I am and in you know your

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coust get Japan or some damn place
throwing out papers, put a stamp on

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it where you're well. And I
missed. I missed the exam. I

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was just getting ready to get out
of the Navy and we're coming back from

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the Mediterranean. We got caught in
a storm in the North Atlantic and we

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were late getting back, and I
missed the exam. So that's why I

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listened. I had to wait until
I guess. I took the tests in

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seventy one to seventy two and got
I was in the first class and seth

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I was a veteran, so you
get extra points. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, good, all right,
So you go in the first US,

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you're in January seventeenth of seventy three, you get appointed, all right,

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yeah, twenty seven attach, but
no big deal. Oh twenty seventh.

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Right, you did say that I
fucked it up again, Okay, And

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there's your pros. I think this
is my probly patoon. If not,

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it's the same era and that and
one of the nice things about the photograph.

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You look in front, there's two
short scaling ladders. Yeah, and

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they everybody had to use. We
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And one of the things you had
to do he climbed the building was

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scaling ladder. I actually did that
in the prob you do it a performance.

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I did the same thing cap I
didn't have performance as well. Yeah,

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and and I thought I'd never see
another one night. So uh I

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put one on a building once and
we didn't get to use it. I

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actually did it a fire, but
we didn't. You know, they got

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that will definitely get your confidence up, you know when you when you're practicing

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that at school, right right?
Yeah, Now, now they're all hanging

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in the kitchen with pots and pants, how you know. Yeah, no,

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that the wood ones. Oh my
god, it's probably a lot of

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money. Yeah, this is the
this is the old the old rock at

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Welfare Island. My class was the
next to the last class at the old

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Welfare Island Training Center. Wow.
And those guys how cool? Yeah man,

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they got you know, the rubber
coats and coats to pull up boots,

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pull up boots, and the leather
helmets. Baby leather helmets leather forever.

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I just set you that, didn't
I? Hey, fools, right,

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yeah, the water leather heads.
You come, uh, you get

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appointed to engine company twenty seven all
right, March twenty fifth, March nineteen

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seventy five. Rather, it's near
the World Trade Center. We were like

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second to with the World Trade Center. It was still just finishing at construction.

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And we had one of the first
fires of any significance there. And

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we had a fire and he started
on the eleventh floor and spread up through

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the electrical They had a tube to
run all the wires up through the building

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and the fire were burning in that
tube. I don't know what started it.

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And and it was very windy night
and the doors that the revolving to

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us in the front of the building
was spinning like you wouldn't believe it.

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My company to grab the door to
stop the door and put his hand and

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they broke his hand. No way. Or when you put a tool that's

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before they have them like all motorized
now and everything probably obviously yeah, well

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like you know, and but when
you get that went blown out of the

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bottom and then they all the pressure
differentials are screwed up because the windows are

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rapped? Are they? Are they
at the seaport? Is that the one

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at the seaport twenty seven? Or
no, that's that's that's UH six and

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one right six engine and no,
well six is right? Six is a

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single engine fifteen fifteen truck and they
have the decon right, So a single

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engine twenty seven was a single engine
on hundred seventy three Franklin Street, you

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know where Latta ragas right there,
an corner from lad of eight and that.

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And they heard some movie star bought
the building. It's a dress shop

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or something. Why did they get
They got disbanded, got disbanded seventy five.

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Yes, I got laid off on
July face of the nineteen seventy five,

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and they closed the company the same
day. But I was already I

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was detailed to the East Lower East
Side. I hadn't got a officially set

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there yet. I got laid off, So technically I got laid off out

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of twenty seven injury. And what
did you do? Did you did you

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drive a bus like most of the
other guys. Did you know? I

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was going to uh A college fire
science on the gi Bill went to school

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full time and I had a friend
of mine. It was a forest ranger

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for the state of New York.
He was a conservation officer. He got

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me a job fighting on cool guy
fighting foresties. That's pretty good enough the

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hill since so Indian tank on my
back and all over the place. Pretty

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good. Better man than me,
I think of those guys out in California.

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So it's just been there to a
certain degree. I don't no thanks,

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and yeah, yeah, no doubt. So you're out for a whole

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year, right, it looks like, you know, like eight months.

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And then they they if you lived
outside the city, they had two programs,

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one for city residon and another program
for people lived outside the city,

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and that was through housing and urban
development. And we were hiring into certain

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ladder companies to do uh, salvage
work. And you would go fight the

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fire like everybody else. And then
they go sit on the rig and relaxed

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and you'll be putting plays. They
cup on the windows and at all wasn't

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wasn't it happy times? And they
they'd want to go to the next fire.

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Him, I gotta finish putting the
plastic. Now. Was there talk

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about layoffs? You know? Was
it before it actually happened? A lot

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of guys said, oh, they
won't let you off. It's never gonna

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happen, never gonna close twenty seven
engines, any layoffs. And then I

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got a bridge to sell you.
You think that's true. Any time a

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fireman says that will never happen,
it's like almost a guarantee. Yeah,

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who, who do you have?
Great depression? Great depression. They didn't

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lay you off, firemen? They
did? He really I didn't know,

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brough. Who do we have on
the guys? Said when he when I

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first got there, the old man, the old senior man, said two

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things will never happen. We'll never
get laid off, and you'll never be

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women in the fight upon them.
Get who that was? I remember that?

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Yeah, I worked. I worked
with Brenda Quin the first the first

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one's huh when I was in eighteen
latter eighteen. She was in seventeen engine.

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I didn't know that. That's what
my old man was. Seventeen engine.

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All right, so year old for
eight months and they bring you back

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right in uh seventy six, Yeah, like March. I remember the exact

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day. They send you over to
eleven Truck, which is a great shop.

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Right, Yeah, they're doing they're
doing a lot of work there at

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eleven truck when you get there.
No, they did over over seven thousand

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runs. That yeah, really busy, a lot of work, a lot

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of vacants and that kind of stuff. And I lucky at what were a

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ten named Benny Romeo, another good
guy him. I want to try to

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try to get it on the show, and he was there. And then

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when they reopened Rescue five, he
was. He was a lieutenant. Rescue

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five became the captain eventine of twenty
eight out of one hundred eleven truck of

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Brooklyn. He so he went from
one hundred eleven to eleven as a lieutenant.

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He's also worked that guy. Yeah. So after about a year,

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they had to move the guys in
these hud trucks out, including myself,

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to make room to hire them all
guys, and so they offered me eighteen

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truck, the same battalion and that
kind of stuff, and almost as busy,

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you know, I think it's like
sixty seven hundred runs wow that year

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and a lot of work. We
were very, very busy with the talle

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Ladder. I wish tell people somebody
went to Disney or something that they flew

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and they got junior pilots license pins. You know, junior pilots brought them

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in the Talleladder book. That's good
so much. You have a couple of

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photos of eighteen trucks there. Yeah, that's what. Yeah, they took

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the They wanted to make it look
different, so that one of the guys

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was real good crists and he made
a wooden front for the rake, just

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the right size, I mean,
really nice. Put that on the front.

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We had that for years. There's
a couple of Yeah, this is

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a typical Lower east Side fire.
We had a lot of tenements and that

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uh, I think if I remember
correctly, this is of a second alarm.

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What would happen sometimes Yet the fire
would get in the air shaft and

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you get a fire going good in
one apartment and the windows at either break

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or in the summertime, the win
are opened and we're getting that air shaft

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and we get these raging fires up
the air shaft. Look at the Roman

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number rolls on the boom. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even see that.

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So uh, this is myself and
Bob D. Martini. This was

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a fire and not right down from
eleven truck and twenty eight engines quarters and

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it was a former fellow factory.
I always heard breaking at the time.

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And and this is, you know, nine o'clock at night. We pull

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up to the thing in a couple
of couple of rooms, couple. It

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was so hot up there that they
didn't want us going up until they got

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all the lines in positions so we
could when we run up, we had

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water because it was you didn't want
to be up there without water. Pretty

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hot. And Bob Martina, the
guy in the right, he eventually when

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they reopen Rescue five, he's one
of the guys that went to Rescue five.

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Really good. Good guy came,
well, you're worried about you got

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the you got the heat shield staff? Yea almost it was almost trying to

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tell the helmet around time. Yeah, nice old school. Yeah. But

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and this is I think it's the
same fire. I think it's Bob on

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the controls and I'm on the They
he had like a ring for the on

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the stag for the have a lot
of stream and that kind of stuff.

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And this was pretty high. They're
gonna use that one tomorrow. Post that

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one up tomorrow. That's a good
one. A little bit of fighter,

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a little bit, just a little
bit. I want to go back to

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this picture really quick. I'm not
gonna you know, allegedly that bucket may

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or may not have been used for
something, you know, bumping and run.

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And you know you can see a
couple of little love taps there in

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it. Yeah, you're on the
number, you know. You know it's

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a busy area and that kind of
stuff. You see. I had an

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EMT patch on the side there.
Eighteen truck was one of the they had.

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They took a bunch of truck companies
and now I had like twenty five

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of them in the city of New
York, and you had I had two

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amts on duty all the time,
and you were subject to being a special

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called into major incidents. You know, we went to a couple of building

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collapses and stuff just wore I am
taste at the scene and and but it

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was the young bad thing is so
that you had to have that patch on.

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And you know it had some somebody
down the street imbbed a little too

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much, you know, perhaps and
caught at restaurant doing mouth to mouth on

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him or something. Yummy. I'm
out who who do we just have on

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keV from eighteen truck Home Run.
Oh, Mike Barron, Mike, I

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the label thing is in the way
though. I'm in the middle of the

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fresh row, and I think Mike
Barone is next to me, and that

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this is the members of seventeen Engine, eighteen truck and the chiefs from the

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fourth Battalion and then there's the Roman
numerals up on the rig again. Yeah,

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I see him A great pick from
I was skinny in a lot of

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chops in that picture that cap.
Oh yeah, yeah. We a couple

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of hunka Pooh shirts, Yeah,
bell bottoms, so you gott oh,

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yeah, well we had we were
we were in a busy area, but

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we were right by the Winning Brig
bridge and what would happen if they had

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a multiple in the northern part of
Brooklyn. They put us on the bridge

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and they sent us over and we
ended up. But some major fires.

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You have some pictures later of some
of the big fires we went to.

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Uh. One in particular was the
we went to uh A fire on the

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blackout nineteen seventy seven July middle of
July of nineteen seventy seven, major blackout

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in the city. We had seven
major fires in the one night tour.

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Yeah, and and riding was going
on. Yeah, they're here, ye

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scrolling here we go. Wow,
yeah, that's yeah. Uh. You

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see the tawe ladder on the on
the right there, they had to move

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00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.239
it. It got so hot that's
twenty four right, got burned up that

408
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.360
That was a different fire. That
was the Bushwook case burning for a right,

409
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.159
right right, right right. I
don't remember what truck on. They

410
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:23.840
didn't they suspended regular alarm operations then
look at the cause burning. They did

411
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:35.519
what they did emergency command procedures.
And there's pictures someplace I don't have them

412
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:42.639
of the the tender from the super
pumper operating at this fire. And it

413
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.599
was the heat was so intense that
in all that water from the monitor from

414
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.840
the super pump at tender and the
street was drying from the just evaporated.

415
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:58.679
Just wow. Uh and that kind
of stuff. Now same forhire. You

416
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.360
see how to how to move it
towel out of because there's they fired both

417
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.800
sides of the street and and we
went down the block. If you look

418
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.800
in the upper left corns stream,
yeah, we'll see a stream that was

419
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.199
us and uh, we were told
to try to keep the fire and traveling

420
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:24.519
down the block, there's mostly real
frames and the heat was intense, and

421
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.199
I was, yeah, we were, we were. It was the equivalent

422
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:35.119
of like a fifth or sixth alarm. But they were, as I said,

423
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:43.079
they were in emergency command prosiegues where
they send teams in it's cops or

424
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:51.960
National Guard chief then they h an
engine, towel out an engine and National

425
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:59.079
Guard came out Los Angeles about the
concept. Yeah, so you wouldn't transmit

426
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.400
us another along and say we need
three more teams. You know, we

427
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.840
have audio from that night, right
roof. I got to find some more

428
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:13.159
of it where it's just total pandemonium. It we had set companies to send

429
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.480
you, right, a lot a
lot of I have no engines to send

430
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.360
you. I don't know that.
I don't know whether you guys know Eastern

431
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:25.400
Parkway in Brooklyn. Yeah, the
fire jumped Eastern Barkway. Wow, that's

432
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:30.360
like three lanes. There wasn't three
lanes, three heat. It was just

433
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:37.480
there was so much volume of stuff
coming out of the fire that members and

434
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.239
stuff, yeah, brands, brands
and stuff. And the next scene.

435
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.000
No, they got a second limb
on the other side of Eastern Parkway.

436
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.519
But at one point we had a
two and a half inch line cooling the

437
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.199
rig. Myself and another guy the
office, the office of the two firemen

438
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.199
or in the basket. We're down
there cooling the rig with turning the half

439
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:06.519
inch line. And then and the
chauffe of from fifteen inchine fifteen engine was

440
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:12.320
operating with us. He had a
boostle line. He's wetting us now the

441
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.159
rig it was high. Thank you
ever get hosed down? I have actually

442
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:23.039
yes, yes, actually with your
clothes on him to yes, yeah,

443
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:30.719
golden shower. Oh well about that. A week later, a week later

444
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.239
we had I think there's some pictures
there. We had the bush took his

445
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.320
burning fire. Yep, this is
going see whether you can take you remember

446
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.840
this one, ruffy? Yeah,
pictures up. My dad took those pictures.

447
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.679
And your dad he was saying,
your dad took the picture, but

448
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.400
I was intriguing about this picture.
He stretching an inchines recorded hose line.

449
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.239
Pretty big fire for inches requord Whose
line? I think he's trying to stretch

450
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:59.639
any line? Yeah? Anyone that
the towel ladder and the set today that

451
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.840
sladder one twenty four, Yeah,
that one's smoking there. Yeah. And

452
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:09.280
Jim Ellison, who you probably you've
heard of him. You ended up a

453
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:15.559
battalion chief and rescue battalion and super
fire him and he made it uh commendous

454
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.440
rescue. He was the officer on
duty in one twenty four truck. And

455
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:25.480
they because they worked in again as
they had plastic windows in the rig because

456
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.360
there was always throwing stuff at the
rigs and stuff, they had plastic windows

457
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:38.400
and all the windows melted, melted
down out o the melted. That's incredible.

458
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.000
Could you imagine if that up to
a rig today, there would be

459
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.840
people marching in the streets for God's
sakes. You know what's money. That's

460
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.840
in the middle of the day too, that's all the middle of the day.

461
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.119
You know what happday in July it
was hoping. They had a bunch

462
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:59.119
of fires, and so the companies
that normally would have gotten in there early

463
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.000
they were jobs. So they had
a cool company. So there was a

464
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.719
delaver response. And that The other
thing is if so hot, the kids

465
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.760
had all the hydrants over this,
so there's no water pressure, right,

466
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.360
so the cops went out trying to
get the kids close to hydrants, and

467
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.559
that they're fighting with the cops over
the hydrant and all this other stuff.

468
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:27.199
And at one point there was fire
in thirty two buildings. Not all of

469
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.000
them were destroyed. I think,
you know, maybe two dozen were destroyed,

470
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:37.400
but pretty good sized buildings. I
mean that one huge, big building.

471
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.559
Yeah. Once again, that's one
of a few times I ever STO

472
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:46.039
had attended from the super pumper,
operating out of fire. That's a picture

473
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:55.440
of the the at least quantity area
and that kind of stuffed the all of

474
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.239
those buildings are on fire, and
that stuff we operated. If you see

475
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:08.360
where the Whetal Avenue elevated trains are, we operated. They had us pull

476
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:14.079
in underneath the l and operate.
There was a McDonald's or a Burkey King

477
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:20.000
there one story and we run,
we put the bucket over there, and

478
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.280
we're trying to control the fire.
We had a fire like on three sides

479
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.440
of us, super high like.
That's the first time I've ever seen this

480
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.280
diagram. That's I never realized how
big that fire was. That's, you

481
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:38.280
know, not the very biggest fire
I ever. The biggest fire I ever

482
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.119
saw was that the ship collision under
the Verizona break We got to talk about

483
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:49.039
that was that was supposed to be
a mile of fire on the water.

484
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.320
Uh, what happened when they hit
the tanker. The tank it just empty

485
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.519
to all this stuff onto the water
and that started burning. And they had

486
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.159
a tremendous floating fire with two ships
and them. Well that was the Brussel

487
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:07.519
and the Wicked something a yeah,
s Brussels and the alb the Alvocate,

488
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:17.199
the Sea Witch that was a wich
and and that that's yeah, that's look

489
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:22.800
at the size of that gaping hole
all and that was full of oil and

490
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.280
all that came out and you can
see it's all and that poured out.

491
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:34.599
I remember when we were jumping back
time wise here we uh we were uh

492
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.199
sent from Manhattan. We came out
of the bookal Battery Tunnel and you go

493
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.119
to the Guanas Expressway. We're high. Yeah, you're coming up over the

494
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.639
top, right over the top,
and we can see the fire there and

495
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.159
we're riding a back step back then
and one of the guys says, the

496
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:59.199
bridges on fire. Du the Berizono
for people who don't know the Arizono Bridge.

497
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.199
Is it huge? I think I
think it's bigger than the GW one.

498
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.119
I think it is. It is
bigger than it's not the biggest bridge

499
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.360
in the world, but it's used
to be used to be yeah, at

500
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:15.119
one point in time, and here
he had the fire under the What eventually

501
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:21.719
happened is as a as a tied
one out and the cart went out.

502
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:28.360
The two burning ships went under the
bridge, then passed it, and eventually

503
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:34.519
we ended up down at the There
was a EJ. Corvette store that was

504
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:39.480
built on pilings out over the bay
and the fire was starting to get underneath

505
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.400
the pilings. They were afraid of
losing the store, so they had to

506
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:47.599
operating a stang azzle land trying to
couple other companies. They finally got in

507
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.840
one of the fireboats and that eventually
burning cause on the bridge. Right there

508
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.280
was cause burning on the four fire
on the bridge. It was a fifth

509
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:04.159
alarm in Brooklyn and a third alarm
and sat Island eight big tank part.

510
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.920
There's a couple of questions before we
get too far out of a couple of

511
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:13.840
questions in the chat, M John
Paul is asking cat were you at the

512
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:20.039
fire on Valentine's Day? In nineteen
seventy nine off Broadway eighteen was an exposure

513
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:25.280
three taken a beaten from a loft
building fire M. That's I gotta think

514
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.079
about that one a loft building fire. I didn't have a lot more building

515
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.440
off uh okay, I think another
one we end up in the area.

516
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:44.280
The problem, the exposure problem with
with loft buildings is a lot of times

517
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.800
in the Rea they got real strong
walls on the on the you know,

518
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:53.639
the left and the right on the
exposure you know, uh, B and

519
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:57.960
D whatever you want to cause the
problems in the rear of the building,

520
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:02.760
and you want to try to get
a lineback there because otherwise it jumps into

521
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.039
the building on the into the rear
of the building on the on the street,

522
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.760
and they haven't got a lineback in
there. But the towel out it

523
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.440
couldn't reach. Those buildings were so
deep towel lost name all the times you

524
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.280
couldn't reach the rear of the building
with the stream too deep. They would

525
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.199
be over one hundred feet deep,
some of them a big building, heavy

526
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.320
timber, and that they had metal
shutters on them to to prevent that exposure

527
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:37.519
from building the building and that and
I remember seeing the metal shutters low and

528
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:44.599
red like the fourth of July sort
of cool, we'll look at but maybe

529
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:49.239
not he and this we didn't do
so good there is Yeah, these quarter

530
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.840
in thick metal shutters. Yeah right
like that, there's a lot of heat

531
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.840
behind it. Yeah, yeah yeah. There's also a comment from Hank in

532
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.719
the tank, well we get to
do that when we get to that company.

533
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:05.840
All right, right, right,
right right, all right my bit.

534
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.559
All right, so from eighteen truck
you go, you're in a great

535
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.599
spot. You know, I want
to be a lieutenant. I want to

536
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.320
get promoted. So it's got one
good story out of a good story about

537
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:24.039
you do it. When they had
a great picture in the fourth Battalion of

538
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:30.000
when you were on the list for
promotion, they would, if possible,

539
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.360
detail you up to the battalion.
So they would so you could learn to

540
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.760
start to learn the paperwork. And
I understand more than just being a firement.

541
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:43.079
And it was blessed. I had
a chief named Already Meadows who was

542
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:49.639
we're really beloved guys in New York
City fired apartment. Somebody told me he

543
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.760
was Tuskegee, ammon, So this
is quite a guy. And then while

544
00:46:53.800 --> 00:47:00.519
I'm driving him and may this is
twenty seconds street and like second an avenue.

545
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.840
What they had done is they had
taken about five or six old tenement

546
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:12.079
buildings and we moved the fronts of
them and made them into one big building.

547
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:19.079
And they put a hallway to transverse
all the the all the five buildings

548
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.039
and that kind of stuff. And
five guy had gone really good, and

549
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:30.079
they had all these voids in there, and John Soccer and eleven Truck was

550
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:37.079
there, and a guy named Freddie
Schwarzrak who was like six foot four from

551
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:44.880
eleven truck. He went down to
smoke and when I was and John Soccer

552
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.760
pushed him up through a scuttle,
said there's no way. And I think

553
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:55.320
I remember that doing that, the
heat that John was exposed to, because

554
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.840
that was like the only one of
the few vent points for all of five

555
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.920
in this building. Now this is
the roof operation and that kind of stuff.

556
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.440
I remember a little chunky up there, cap huh oh, it was

557
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:15.480
it was bad. What say,
pretty fred sports Rock is two e MS

558
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.280
guys that happened. I think they
were volunteer firements, so they were not

559
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.159
afraid to climb an area ladder.
They went up the aerial ladder and started

560
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:28.440
two medics and started treating Freddy on
the roof. It hadn't but then Manning

561
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.239
might die. John's good action and
John got a medal for it. And

562
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.480
so this is when John was in
the eleventh truck. People know John soccer,

563
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:43.039
but he's a real deal. I
could testify that good guy. And

564
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:51.679
then he's yeah, but uh.
And I remember getting up to the roof

565
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.639
that he said the chief told me
to get the resuscitated the oxygen and bringing

566
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.599
it up to the roof. By
the time I got to thank god,

567
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.320
these medics were up there, and
so do people on the roof. I

568
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.199
started give an oxygen and people on
the roof and I remember the woman.

569
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.599
I'm giving a woman an oxygen.
There's other people, so you know,

570
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.599
she's stone up. Hey, I've
the oxyte. Didn't do another one.

571
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.960
She wouldn't let go. She's like
this, she's we're not let that mask

572
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:24.719
go and and she said, I
never realized what you guys didn't. Yeah,

573
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.199
I'm glad you were right. You
know what you're gonna say. Cap

574
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.119
Kevin says all the time he got
to ride with his brother. His brother

575
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.360
was a deputy and he got to
ride with him his last year on the

576
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.000
job, And similar to what you're
saying, like when you get to ride

577
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.559
with the chief, you kind of
get a sense of what is going on

578
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.960
outside of you know, just being
a farman or boss, you know,

579
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.119
constantly, just you got an outside
look at what's really happening, you know,

580
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.599
and you got a great chief like
out of meadows he's going now.

581
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:58.119
And but he was worked in the
South Bronx. He started when they started

582
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.119
fifty six truck and the war and
the beginning out of the war years.

583
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.880
He was the first captain of day. He was very well respected man.

584
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.360
But he knew so much and he
you know, after the fire was over,

585
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.639
commit we come here, I want
to show you this, you know,

586
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.360
he'd show you around and that kind
of stuff. So I tried to

587
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.000
do that sometimes my own guys with
me. Yeah, you learned that from

588
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.159
from him and pass it on,
you know. Oh yeah, good stuff,

589
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.519
all right? Uh and the other
stories from eighteen cap before you jump

590
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.960
into you get promoted. That's I
got promoted right after that. I mean,

591
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.679
we had lots of fires and a
lot of the same. You get

592
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.960
these tenement fires you'd have pretty much, especially on a weekend, you were

593
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:52.000
guaranteed one or two fires a nighttime
in the weekend. You were going to

594
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.920
have a job. Just what's going
to happen I mean that area was and

595
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.519
that time was just incredibly a lot
of a lot of buildings. That's why

596
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:05.800
eighteen spent so much time in the
up in the air with the dwell had

597
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.760
a bucket because I can imagine they
were busier companies on the job, but

598
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:15.079
we were with all those vacant buildings, and that after Marty Selik was killed

599
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:25.440
on Eighth Street and that we dramatically
reevaluated the idea going into vacant buildings.

600
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.199
Then he done just said something I
had never heard before. He said,

601
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.199
all the years, you know,
forty two years on the job, he

602
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.000
says, I never took a body
out of a vacant building. So this

603
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:43.639
idea of making this commitment into vacant
buildings all the time, the people that

604
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.880
that they're squatting in those buildings,
they know to get out. They live,

605
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:52.039
they lived with this stuff all the
time. So you know, maybe

606
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.199
it's some truth and maybe we need
to you know, if it's as savable

607
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:01.119
life, I get it right on
the risk reward, right, Yes,

608
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:08.840
all right. So you get promoted
April seventh, eighty four and you're covering

609
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:15.199
in Battalion twenty six, Division sixty
in the South Bronx again now where I

610
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.000
think they were a little behind.
That's where it was really starting to get

611
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.159
busy, right early eighties. In
the South Bronx. It was still busy.

612
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:28.159
When I say it started in the
in the late late sixties, early

613
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:34.639
seventies, and it was by the
late eighties it was a lot less.

614
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:40.760
They toured down a lot of buildings
and but yeah, I my first first

615
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.599
They when you got promoted, they
used to force you to go to fire

616
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:52.159
prevention for like ninety days. So
the only time I got to work on

617
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.239
the firehouses over time on the weekends. So I'm a lieutenant like the week

618
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:05.079
and they sent me to the ladder
nineteen work all the time and a Sunday

619
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.440
afternoon, okay, Sunday afternoon should
be all right. And then we pulled

620
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:14.719
out of quarters and there's a H
type bart house. I get them all

621
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.000
H type apartment house going the whole
top floor is going fire through the roof

622
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:27.880
and that kind of stuff. And
my transfer the ten seventy five, my

623
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:37.800
first, my first run a gold
tennel went to the ratio well fly.

624
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.599
I only had the one flour five
put it bringing the roof off the building

625
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:49.800
and stuff roof smoof. How you
guys do it up here in the bron

626
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.119
Yeah, we did. You're trying
to trench the roof, you know,

627
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:59.599
like you guys know trenching and that
kind of stuff. I don't know whether

628
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:05.920
the tank you know you from your
trenching, yes, yeah, and that

629
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:07.960
kind of stuff. We always said
you gotta get it early, right roughly.

630
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:13.079
Oh my god. How many times
did they work cap? Not too

631
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:19.719
often. I'm gonna say it's probably
seventy five per maybe a corner at the

632
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.039
time. We got it before it
gets past it. But yeah, So

633
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:28.760
where else did you work up there
cap before you get assigned? Well,

634
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:34.559
like another there a lot of busy
companies. They have forty four Frock nineteen

635
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:42.920
ninety two engine fifty engine that was
in with fifty eighty five engine twenty nine.

636
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.440
No. Eighty five was a single
engine, single house and they were

637
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:59.440
ten house on Boston Road right right
right station. Yeah, and and eighty

638
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.159
three are good. They were good
companies. They could you know, you

639
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.159
knew they were gonna put the fire
on, you know, and it was

640
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.599
funny. I would tell guys up
there, wait, do you wait,

641
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.880
you wait? Oh? You worked
the first division. They had no idea

642
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.800
what we're doing in that reside.
They just had no idea. But after

643
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.000
a while, you know. But
the one good fire I had with a

644
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.079
nineteen truck, I was covering the
vacation there. I think you have some

645
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:38.679
pictures, a series of pictures from
the air if it's uh Melborose Avenue,

646
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:45.480
Yes, I just gotta scroll one
find them. There we go. Well,

647
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:51.480
I'll give the story while he in
we were were at another incident,

648
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:58.639
uh at in front of the old
quarters of Engine seventy one out of fifty

649
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.280
five on Park Avenue, fifty ninth
Street, and the elevator had fallen.

650
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:06.840
Some people were hurrying, so we're
second too. We're just standing in the

651
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.679
street. Cop comes up to me
and says, you know there's a fire

652
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.639
at one Melrose Avenue, one hundred
fifty second street. You guys know about

653
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.000
it. I said, I didn't
hear anything, and you have anything.

654
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:20.960
Come over the radio. I called
it, dispatcher, and I said,

655
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.599
you have a box in for one, five, two and Melrose And the

656
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:28.760
despatcher said, no, we don't. I just got a verbal along from

657
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:35.719
a police off the Saint as people
trapped and cops trapped in the thing.

658
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.559
So I called it the chief of
the fire we rat and he says,

659
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.440
yeah, go ahead. So I
said, you know, I told us

660
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:45.199
boy, we're available to take it
in. We get there. We got

661
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:51.239
there along because it wasn't that far. We were one five nine in a

662
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.880
park and that's one to five two, so it's not four. Pull up

663
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.840
and the fire. The fire at
a store. If you showed a picture,

664
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:04.599
there's you I think we go back
one. There's one with the all

665
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:13.960
of well that's later in the incident, doesn't matter. That's one more picture

666
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:17.840
is the right one. I look
at that fire just off the off the

667
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:22.840
fire escape there, all those people
are coming downright happened? What had happened

668
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.440
was if you go there's one one
another picture that shows the people on the

669
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:34.360
fire escape. These pictures were taken
by a housing police officer that happened to

670
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:38.960
be there and took a bit.
Yeah, and you can see the people.

671
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.719
There's people on the fire. It's
hard to see because the smoke and

672
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.199
that kind of stuff. At this
point, the fires in the store on

673
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:51.920
the first floor and then the apartment
on the second floor. The main entrance

674
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:58.840
to the building was around the corner. Because there's no way to get off

675
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:04.800
the fire escape up down on the
front fire escape. They trapped on the

676
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.920
fire escape and fires rolling up underneath
them, and now they can't They don't

677
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:13.159
want to go back in the building
because it's full of smoke. They can't

678
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.239
go up because there's no place to
go. They came and it's you know,

679
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:25.280
fifty people above them. So the
chauffeur from the truck from nineteen truck

680
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:31.800
called a lalla and I forget,
I can't remember who the outside the man

681
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.960
was. Anyway, throw the area
ladder up and start taking them off.

682
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:44.239
There the fire escape and no engine
on the scene. We go around the

683
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.000
corner myself and the forstible entry team. We found the two cops crawling around

684
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.639
me and in a staircase coffin,
and we sort of led them to the

685
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:58.000
duover. Hey, we are good
now because we have people trapped, and

686
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.079
we pulled about I think we pulled
them about eating nine out and most of

687
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:09.400
them were conscious and lay but uh, what happened was somebody was pissed off

688
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:15.320
and touched the store. They were
angry at the store romer and it's you

689
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.039
know, it's nine o'clock at night. These people are trapped above the fire

690
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:23.599
with no way out, and they
kept somebody asking in the chat that your

691
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:29.119
first run as a boss, how
was your ten seventy five? Were you

692
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.840
a little uh? Were your calm? Cool and collected? I had very

693
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.280
little out in my mind what was
needed. I almost thought, I'm up

694
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.000
saying did you give a good Did
you give a good ten seventy five?

695
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.599
Or was it a little shaking you
know? Yeah? No, I said,

696
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:45.199
I told him we had You got
to say we had it. We

697
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.039
have an h type, We got
the entire top floor, we got fully

698
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.960
involved, and then ten seventy five, as long as it wasn't a screaming

699
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:59.000
ten seventy five. You didn't get
the screaming one, right, He's like,

700
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:10.599
I worry, but but you know
that was a good nineteen truck,

701
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:15.159
a really good company, a lot
of guys someone else gotta called Alalo I

702
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:19.360
think became a chief. There was
a show for that night, and then

703
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:23.920
got the excellent firefighters, Joe Rio
and a lot of really good guys.

704
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:31.320
I wish from my whole career in
nineteen truck. But I'll tell Milner,

705
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:38.320
huh, don't tell Mikey Milner.
Okay, Yeah, you know a good

706
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:43.400
place. But what happened was,
you know, I only had a couple

707
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.800
of years as a lieutenant, so
even more time to put in when the

708
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:50.239
spot opened up, something else,
some more time, whatever, they got

709
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.159
it. Now I'm without at home
again. So you know Jim, you

710
01:00:55.239 --> 01:01:01.679
know, we'll know Jim Cullen from
the Ye firefighters. Yeah, and we

711
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.639
were friends because I used to help
them out with some of the burn Center

712
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.000
stuff. So he saw, oh, Bobby, you didn't get nineteen truck.

713
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.920
He's a spot twenty one truck,
and rescue one was in quarters with

714
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:19.679
him that they had had that that
lovel a long fire had destroyed their quarters.

715
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.360
They answered, they've in quarters with
an engine thirty four twenty one.

716
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.639
And Jim says, you know,
we're sharing office and stuff. And he

717
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.039
was a friend. This is great, so he put a word of I

718
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:35.960
mean, that's how I ended up
with twenty one truck as ten. And

719
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.400
they were they were pretty busy.
Yeah, tow allowed us in New York

720
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.079
City. You're gonna you're gonna pick
up some work every now and then.

721
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:49.400
Yeah, even at that time,
yeah, even now, but back then

722
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.280
much more, I would say,
right, definitely, I mean, and

723
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.639
we got the picture with the hankle. Isn't that picture two Hank at it?

724
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:05.639
Yeah? Uh? At least say
oh yeah, has Hank Malay is

725
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:10.840
the second one? Uh? Paul
Wilt, big guy. Paul Wilt is

726
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:14.920
a big guy next to him as
Hank Malay. They wasn't called him Molly

727
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:21.480
the volley very good. He tanked
and he put something there. Yes,

728
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:30.360
the guy in the middle with the
light colored thing is h uh put that

729
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:38.679
back up tank right? Oh?
Spanking mission John Mcallison. Everybody called him

730
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:46.440
spanking, so they they this picture
was up in the firehouse and for a

731
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.559
while and it was spanking in all
the game they put it. That's cat

732
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:58.800
Melon Elson on the Jimmy Allison is
the captain. I'm right there. Ronnie

733
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:02.719
Bouka is right now extore, I
mean right from rescue one. H huh.

734
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:07.400
I'm pretty sure. Ronnie and I
got to be friends with both Vietnam

735
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:14.880
vets. And we all know about
Ronnie Buco with on nine to eleven making

736
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:20.679
enough to the upper floors and super
good fire And right after this picture he

737
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:28.039
fell off a fire escape four stories
and it survived. And the reason he

738
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:34.000
survived he had been an airborne ranger
and he was used to as they fall

739
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:38.840
through trees or something, the airborne
the train to grab things to Robert fall.

740
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.719
Yeah, right there fall and that's
what saved him. And he also

741
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:47.760
landed on all fours, which I
never thought of. He said, if

742
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.480
you land on your legs as you
can break your legs or your back,

743
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.480
you land at all fours, you're
putting all that energy out into the whole

744
01:03:54.519 --> 01:04:00.119
fours. But to think to do
that when you're falling for stories, you

745
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.679
know, wow, that's a good
picture man. That that big guy.

746
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:08.840
What company was he in next to
Hank? Was he Paul Well? No,

747
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:14.400
he was in twenty one truck.
The canswered the engine. Canswered to

748
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:17.039
the engine. I like to get
behind him, and he had the nozzle.

749
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:23.719
You ain't doing shit right. Just
hang on. I don't feel any

750
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.800
heat. That's perfect. I had
for a short period of time after I

751
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.599
lost the spot in in nineteen truck. They had me teaching at the rock

752
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:35.159
at Proby School and he was one
of the Proby so that I taught it.

753
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:42.679
Big big fella, Yes, Cap
Hank. Hank is in the chat

754
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:47.760
and he says to tell you hello, hyeah, Yeah, good guy,

755
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:55.400
Hank good people. I think he
is the good Frank Molly the Valley is

756
01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:00.119
a good dude man. Yeah.
And that's that's Rescue one one. They

757
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.639
were in courts. Wow, look
at that thing. Holy shit, beautiful

758
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:11.679
truck. That was my like one
of my all time favorite the rescue rakes

759
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:21.039
beautiful truck. We Uh, I
don't think we talked about this already.

760
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:30.000
I was occasionally I'd go across the
floor and I'd work in Rescue one mutual.

761
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.280
And it happened to be doing that
one night. And it's about the

762
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:39.559
same time that photograph was taken.
We got sent up to Way North for

763
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:45.119
them one hundred thirteen Street, Yampsterdam
Avenue for a fire and a triangular building

764
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:51.960
and we got said help them such
the top floor. So I think this

765
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.719
is the same fire. It looks
like the same fire. I'm not absolutely

766
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:02.400
sure, but a very similar situation. And the fire took off and they

767
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:09.000
ordered everybody, everybody to get off
the top floor and one of the officers

768
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.360
from one of the truck companies up
there didn't get the word. He got

769
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:16.119
hit by the towel out of stream
and he got knocked around pretty good.

770
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:23.920
And and and uh, I think
it might have been George Crucchit had found

771
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:28.639
him and he had sort of crawled
into a closet to get away from the

772
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:38.000
towel out of stream. And and
but I had a guy him with me

773
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:43.360
named Jackie Theobald, who was in
rescue one and who were searching this upper

774
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:48.440
floor apart when we find a woman
in there. She's trapped and they we

775
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:54.000
go to take her out the fires
in the hallway. So we're thinking about

776
01:06:54.079 --> 01:07:01.119
Lauren or with a rope and that, but she was handicapped and and oh

777
01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:03.880
boy, yeah, he's gonna have
to hold on to him. I'm gonna

778
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:09.360
have to lower him and and that. But they eventually the engines good engines

779
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:13.079
hauling engine companies really good, and
they got up to him and they got

780
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:17.239
the fire knock down kind of stuff
and we got her out. We got

781
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:24.199
the officer was, yeah, do
you go to any fires that don't look

782
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:31.119
like you're plunging into haities or that
any small fires? No one room drops

783
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:36.880
the rule. I have just rule. I have go bigger, go big,

784
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:45.639
big or nothing? All right?
Oh man, stuff, I see

785
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:50.840
more fire fire with second line of
the volleys. About two weeks ago,

786
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:59.920
he's still going seventy still doing it
up by roof is Yeah, I think

787
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.480
stop, I'm not going to pulling
ceilings and pushing hose lines. But the

788
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:08.760
eyes are still good. So look
at he's still doing it. He's doing

789
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:16.039
it or something that's it's you know. I people say to me, you

790
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.680
know what are you? And I
said, I'm a fireman. That's what

791
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:25.520
I am. You know, some
people adopted some people in nurses and look

792
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.640
broadcasting. And I just had this
conversation with my mother just you know,

793
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.600
my dad was a fireman. A
Sun's roll finment, a fineman born or

794
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:41.800
they made. I think you're born
with that. But that's a good question.

795
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.600
M I think it's a little probably
a little bit they said early in

796
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:51.800
my life. I rolls my eyes
and still see that old one's box bump

797
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:55.920
up hook up the high ground in
front of my parents. I remember pulling

798
01:08:55.960 --> 01:09:00.000
the box on the corner that you
pulled the box. I know the guy.

799
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:06.079
The truth comes out. I know
that cookie probably beat your ass.

800
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:13.199
Bro Well, I told you when
when I first spent the Captain, I

801
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.159
went to I went to get my
medical done for the year. This was

802
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.760
the last couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, and uh, I had taken

803
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.039
all the most of the time you
got to sit due the computer, right,

804
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:25.880
So I had already done that at
home. So I went in.

805
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.600
They took my blood, did all
that stuff, and then I had to

806
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.880
wait to go see the doctor and
some other other girls. So they said,

807
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:32.119
oh, yeah, you can go
ahead. Now you can have some

808
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.760
coffee. You go sit inside.
So I went inside and the captain was

809
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:40.720
in there, and immediately we sit
down. He's happening. He's sitting across

810
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:44.600
from me, and I could tell
it's bubbling up out of him. It's

811
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:48.880
just coming out of him. He
can't worry, just work. He's smell

812
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:55.520
of smoke on my clothes. I
said, where's the fire cap? Is

813
01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:00.560
that your cologne? O? You
know what old fuego? But I could

814
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.119
tell so. And then when I
went in to go see the cold mattress.

815
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.880
When I went to go see the
girls, uh, one of the

816
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:11.920
girls had said, you know,
like, what are you doing now whatever?

817
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:13.439
So I said, I have to. You know, I started a

818
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.279
podcast whatever with my partner, and
uh, she was like, are you

819
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:19.119
the salty guy? And then I'm
like yeah, She's like you gotta get

820
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.279
bob on. I'm like, you
know, I was talking him before and

821
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.760
I think I'm gonna ask him to
come on, and they were like ecstatic.

822
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:30.399
So I'm glad. I'm glad he
came on. It was you know,

823
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:32.640
my, my, what you guys
do here, And it's it's it's

824
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:40.199
full of fun, and it's it's
about the reals. I loved some of

825
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:43.439
the people that you've you've had on. I mean, you know, I

826
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:47.479
can't say every good things about Paul
Hashager and I'm with good friends and and

827
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.760
that kind of stuff. And he's
apparently he's still fighting fires in Freeport.

828
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.520
You know. Yeah, guys are
all crazy. Yeah, yeah, I

829
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.840
don't know. You know, everybody
different walks, you know, different folks,

830
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:02.760
right, I mean, likes to
go kill boy de fentials animals.

831
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.840
This guy likes to go. And
seventy seventy still taking care of the brothers

832
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:13.439
at at the counseling unit, and
he's running at the fights. Maybe possibly

833
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:19.479
we we had what was called a
certainteam in the New York Fire Department Critical

834
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:27.479
Incident Response Team, and we would
they'd activate us if something happened, something

835
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.920
bad happened, they had a real
bad multiple death fire, or they had

836
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:36.960
lie duty death, something suicide,
something bit real bad, and we're gonta

837
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.640
visit the firehouses because they'll usually talk
to us. And I kind of talked

838
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:47.199
to some of them psychologists or something
or social worker initially, you know,

839
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:56.520
and but and then after nine eleven, I was actually on the pile and

840
01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:59.840
I came off the pile. I
come back, You were retired already,

841
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.920
nice, I was retired, but
I you know, I had a lot

842
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:11.039
of training. I was UF following
a lot of seven as a captain when

843
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:15.079
they were doing some of their rescue
support training. So you know, I've

844
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.359
been around a while and a lot
of building collapses. So I told them

845
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:29.640
what I could, but the the
the need to be there and do something

846
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.199
was there. And I come off
the pile, and I'll tell you a

847
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:43.079
quick story. I got back to
my firehouse and I'm staying out in the

848
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.960
front, so covered with all the
dust and stuff. And since it was

849
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:51.119
a really nice sorry makeing emotional over
it even and I'm staying out there.

850
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:57.760
All the neighbors that donate food,
so they're heating the food and I'm staying

851
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:03.159
outside. I'm drinking to call.
Old man walks up with a cane and

852
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.920
that comes, puts flowers down.
So I said thank you sir, you

853
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:11.479
know, he says. He says
with a British accent. He says,

854
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:15.079
I understand. I said, okay, thank you. No, I really

855
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.960
put his hand on my hands.
I understand. He says. It was

856
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:28.640
a fireman in London during the blitz. Wow, and he said three times

857
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:32.000
over they lost every member of London
Fire Brigade. That's what he said.

858
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:38.039
I don't know whether that's true,
but that's what he said. He said,

859
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.800
The reason I survived is I went
into London five rigrade late in the

860
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.239
blitz. So I survived. And
he says, so I was burying my

861
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:50.439
friends all the time. Yeah,
those bombs were falling. Imagine that too.

862
01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:55.239
I mean that's incredible, right,
And you think this isn't going on.

863
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.720
Take a look at our brothers and
sisters in the Ukraine. Ukraine,

864
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:08.439
I always see it. We talked, uh yeah, have you uh if

865
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.880
you've had any collapse training, you
know, we're all at collapse procedures.

866
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:24.039
Oh yeah, yeah. We had
Nigel snowy On and we from he's from

867
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.800
uh somewhere over there. And we
had the other guy who wrote a book

868
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.920
about the five rigame. We actually, uh, we had a couple of

869
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:33.159
shows about that cap where we learned
a lot about that, like a lot

870
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:36.119
of the techniques and stuff that we
do about like you said about fight fi

871
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:41.960
and those types of buildings, collapses
and stuff. If anybody knows that guy,

872
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:44.119
tell him to reach out to me. He wrote a book on the

873
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:45.119
on the Blitz. I'd like to
get him back on the show, like

874
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:49.279
I don't know where's yeah, yeah, no we will. I'd like to

875
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:55.560
read that until Yeah, this kind
of stuff. I was in London with

876
01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:01.800
the wife and I went by a
firehouse, so that low and that different

877
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:10.399
or a little bit different world five
pumps and all other stuff. They got

878
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:14.239
the high low. Where are yeah? Where are we? Coops? Where

879
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:20.720
are we? He's about to be
promoted to captain? Yeah? One captain

880
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.199
signed up the third division because I
had it was a little tenant and third

881
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:32.800
division and stuff. And as I
said, I have bouncer. A couple

882
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.600
of companies ended up in seven trucks
for a while, and I thought it

883
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:40.640
was going to get the spot there. Same thing happened as nineteen trucks.

884
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:44.960
Somebody more senior already got the spot. And that's so I'm coming against sort

885
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:49.159
of battalion commander of the seventh Battalion
who knew me from when it was in

886
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:55.760
twenty one truck asked me to come
and take twenty six engine and I said,

887
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:57.960
okay, I'll take it, like
for a year. And you know

888
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:00.920
I got there. I loved it. The guys, good guys, and

889
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:04.479
a bat cave, right, fun
place, a bat cave. And it

890
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:09.560
was the reason it was about that
cave. It was we had bats,

891
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:17.560
really terminator and at a hostile Yeah. I don't know now that you looked

892
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.640
at the river, that building,
it looked like Gotham City. The only

893
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:25.520
thing you didn't You didn't have the
batman thing on the on the clouds,

894
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:30.439
you know, the searchlight, the
Batman. That's all you needed, it

895
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.520
really did. It looked like Gotham
said gawk and black and that kind of

896
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:40.640
stuff. But we uh, good
years. I had a great bunch of

897
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:46.199
people there, single engines. Nice
as a captain because you know, you

898
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:54.479
just have you you only have twenty
five eiets to work. Worry no,

899
01:16:54.840 --> 01:17:00.239
and I'm kidding. They were good
guys. But good years. Sometimes much

900
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:01.840
time, many years? How many
years did you? Eight years? Yeah?

901
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.199
Eight years? There and that kind
of stuff. A lot of a

902
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.000
lot of a lot of fires there. I didn't get a chance to get

903
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:13.840
all the pictures into you, but
you know we want to a lot of

904
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:21.119
fires. Uh there was another picture
crazy thanks. I remember one July fourth,

905
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:29.239
we had a bloom crash, a
blimp crash, like a big fourth.

906
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:32.239
Yeah, joly to fourth, that's
a good story. I don't have

907
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.520
the I have the picture and I
didn't send it to you. But July

908
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.720
to fourth, one of my lieutenants
was going to a family party, said

909
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:43.960
you're working tonight because you come in
around. He's like sure. I was

910
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.760
like, hey man, they helped
my look tann down and then I'm righting

911
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.720
and that kind of we get called
out. We put it in an aircraft

912
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:56.800
down and it's like forty fifth to
forty sixth Street and ninth Avenue or something

913
01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:00.079
like that, and oh god,
that's gotta be man. We get there

914
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:10.800
that the faded deflated blimp hanging off
the side of a building there and find

915
01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:14.680
out the story. Uh it was
the fourth of July. So they have

916
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:18.600
the upsail and all other stuff,
and then fleetweek and stuff. They there's

917
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.600
like a million people along the Hudson
River. They're gonna watch all the tall

918
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:33.439
ships and stuff, and then they
gonna stay there for the fireworks. As

919
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:40.800
he frozen. I think he's frozen. He'll come back, come back,

920
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:47.239
half Jack, come back doing something. She couldn't care about it too much.

921
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:55.800
Frozened that right. I was just
gonna be can he get can he

922
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.600
get back on himself? Was he? Uh m hm? I probably have

923
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:03.119
to call Yeah. Probably we were
doing so good. I don't know what

924
01:19:03.239 --> 01:19:05.960
happened, all right, I give
McCall tell him. I'm gonna play the

925
01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:12.439
commercial in between. Yeah, sure, I'm gonna you know what, Yeah,

926
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:14.560
kick him out? You kicked him
out, all right? Cool?

927
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:18.319
Yeah, put yourself on mute.
We'll play the commercial. Ball What do

928
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:23.479
we gotta play? That's the old
school tip of the day, brought to

929
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:28.720
you by which will be coming up
White Charlie. He's a firefighter, this

930
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.439
guy. I love it all right. Dragon hook Sport Fishing. He's an

931
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:38.199
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specializing in walleye catfish and steelhead fishing on

932
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Owned by Josh Myers, a full time

933
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:46.159
fireman and licensed US Coast Guard.
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934
01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:50.680
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of Walleye for Wounded Heroes that provides Purple

935
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.640
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936
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937
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938
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:12.840
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percent off your personal charter excellent. I

939
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.800
think we have his phone number somewhere, don't we. Yes, we have

940
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.840
a banner with that. He's a
fireman. Bro. Come on dragon Hooks

941
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:27.960
phone number four four zero five two
two five nine four zero. It's my

942
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:32.560
man at dragon Hooks. We catch
a couple of fish, one or two

943
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:36.000
or three fish. And I was
setting the show up last week when I

944
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:40.039
was that day I was working and
you sent that text about that. I

945
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:44.920
was like, what does that have
to do with the old school tip or

946
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:46.039
the word of the day. I
was like, that's an interesting word of

947
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.600
the day. Can we hear that
story. It's just a guy who wants

948
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:55.439
to promote his business, fight to
own business. We're all about that.

949
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.119
Well, we have a way that
people can contact us if they want to

950
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.079
promote their business. Oh, Hanks
in a bullpen again, just in case

951
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:12.840
that was on slowboll this. Hey, you know I've been the bullpen,

952
01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.920
he says. He's just he's ready
to be. I thought you had to

953
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:19.640
go pick up your old lady at
the airport tonight. What happened, Hank,

954
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:27.000
Hank? You miss RUF has got
him? Got him good? Delilio

955
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:38.000
M hmm yeah, man M.
Maybe should have five minutes of fewer between

956
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:45.680
Hank and Ray. Oh, it's
been happening. He's coming back. Yeah,

957
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:48.880
he should be on in the second
perfect. He's got a couple of

958
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:53.399
guys had mentioned in the face and
Facebook too. He had a helicopter story

959
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.199
too. I just asked him.
He said that's different than what he's talking

960
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.560
about now. So he's gonna talk
about that too. So remind me right

961
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.560
now I talk about the bribe.
See if you can find the thing on

962
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:08.640
YouTube about the blimp? What you
was it? Any pictures? I don't

963
01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:11.960
know what it was it had to
be about. You can probably find that

964
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:15.880
for us July first of ninety two
or three, I don't know. Blimp

965
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:23.479
crash New York City. I can
help by MC's face. He's looking for

966
01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:28.159
it. He's got that searching face
on. He does ninety three. Pee

967
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:33.279
said ninety three. There we go. See it a pizza hut blimp,

968
01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:15.880
the blimp. I remember that.
Actually I don't. Oh that's before the

969
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:30.359
merchant too. Man, he's back, he's back in still loading. I

970
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:42.880
was heard at work today by the
Pete Thomas Hern. I was heard at

971
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:48.199
work today. I was heard at
work today. I had a hit playing,

972
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:09.119
Oh boom, MCS boys right there. I wonder MC pro this video?

973
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:29.239
Is he loaded in ki tank?
His little square has popped up,

974
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:34.279
but his picture is not showing up
the screen? Away run into the window?

975
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.800
Is he on the video? That's
the problem. All you could take

976
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:45.640
that off of that. I'm done
with that crap. Let me see if

977
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.600
I hadn't do the screen, what
happens? No, nothing, just a

978
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:53.720
black box. Oh look it's Mike. Who it is? I saw that

979
01:24:53.880 --> 01:25:01.720
gesture. CUIs met up when ESU
came up. Leave me alone? You

980
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.560
know, I love equally. I
love both. Hi everyone, by the

981
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:09.279
way you do. I figured I
can hang out with you guys until he

982
01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:15.319
comes back. I haven't had this
much technical difficulty before, but at least's

983
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:17.279
more was to make it pass by. Though I didn't know that happened either.

984
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:18.800
I might need to do a show
on that in the future. I

985
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.560
didn't know how blim crashed in Manhattan. Wow, bro, you know with

986
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:27.800
the program I thirty, it's thirty
years this year too, Yeah, thirty

987
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:31.039
years ago. Wow. Yeah,
nineteen ninety three yet old nay three was

988
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:34.520
a good year my opinion. Well
you were born that yeah, oh yeah,

989
01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:40.840
that's good. Yeah, that was
Yeah, that's that's interesting. Whether

990
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:43.159
well, I guess he'll tell us
when he comes back on. I wonder

991
01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:45.560
if there's any fatalities there. Well, so one guy to stretch it,

992
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.319
yeah, yeah, a law board. But that was pre emerged everything too,

993
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:56.079
because e MS had emerged with a
yeah and orange and green uniforms.

994
01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:59.640
Housing police were still separate from NYPD. So yeah, that was a different

995
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:04.439
time the city. But Bob,
yes, mcbob is here. Chat is

996
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:09.319
happy to see you. I'm happy
to see them. Thank got him?

997
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:15.439
All right, Well there brings after
the show, all right, you can

998
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:20.520
hear me. We're bringing it in
bad problem. Sorr just just dropped me.

999
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.560
Yeah, I saw that all right, And I haven't seen that video

1000
01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.159
for a long time time. We
had a lot of there was a lot

1001
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:32.399
of joking going on around us.
Somebody called it limp blimp, somebody else

1002
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:41.560
guys calling Jurassic condom. Did anybody
get seriously hurt their camp or yeah?

1003
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:46.439
They Uh, there was two crewmen
in the blimp, be the you know,

1004
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.680
the gondola thing on the under the
bottom of it, and we saved

1005
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:57.319
them. Was two cops. Two
cops were watching it and saw that it

1006
01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:01.439
was spinning in and uh, they
ran up to the roof and one of

1007
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:05.560
the cops was a private pilot table
to shut the fuel and everything off.

1008
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:13.000
Saved them and that kind of stuff. But the interesting things we coursed.

1009
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:20.119
They took gunfire. Somebody uptown Manhattan
was shooting at it. Really one fire,

1010
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:27.359
shocking, and it started leaking on
one side and so it started circuling

1011
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:34.520
circular. Imagine that old ship moment
from those guys, And they just kept

1012
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:43.800
losing it and the opening just spread
and so was leaking all the descending.

1013
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:46.760
So what he was trying to do
is catch it just right and put it

1014
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:51.520
down into the ocean, into the
river, into the Hudson River. There

1015
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:57.439
and that but landed on the funny
story. There's a couple sunbathing on the

1016
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:01.399
on the roof of the building in
beach chairs, and she was topless.

1017
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:09.560
Apparently, whoa, there's always a
silver lining before she thought they were watching

1018
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:12.800
time. You know, yeah,
I bet they were, though, thanks

1019
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:19.439
here and the chairs were crushed.
Stupid point and that it wasn't Broccini's old

1020
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:24.159
lady, was it? I don't
know, I don't know, I don't

1021
01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:28.239
know, I don't know. All
right, there's a helicopter story you want

1022
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:30.760
to talk about too. We had
a few of them over the years.

1023
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:36.279
We had that thirtieth Street helicopter.
We were at thirty seventh Street, so

1024
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:42.279
we get occasionally we go down There
was a thirtieth thirtieth Street and the Hudson

1025
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:48.279
there was a sight seeing a helicopter
operation and and uh New Year's Eve.

1026
01:28:48.359 --> 01:28:54.680
We go down there one time and
that it's absolute pandemonium. He could this

1027
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:59.720
speak and we got there. What
had happened the helicopter was It's New Year's

1028
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.159
Eve. All these people wanted to
get up in the helicopter and fly around

1029
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:08.359
New York over Times Square at twelve
o'clock and all this other stuff. And

1030
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:15.800
the guy was pulling the helicopter and
wind hit him and the blades went through

1031
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:20.800
the waiting room. Boom, the
blades from wom woom, and you could

1032
01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:26.079
see it looked at So somebody took
the big axe and went through the walls.

1033
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.399
That there was glass and everything.
There must have been sixty people sitting

1034
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:32.880
in this waiting room. Wait,
everybody get taught. Everybody get decapitated.

1035
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:41.279
No oh people people Uh it was
high enough over their heads. But they

1036
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.640
got scraped away, glass and sheep
rock and everything you can possibly imagine.

1037
01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:49.079
And we had, you know,
every gow. And then we get a

1038
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:54.319
helicopter down in the river. I
remember, we get you go screaming over

1039
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:58.720
there, crazy screaming over there.
You see blades sticking out of the water

1040
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.800
and this kind of stuff, and
it's nobody Dan, it's no other cop

1041
01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.159
comes up to me and it's oh, yeah, that was there, that's

1042
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:15.720
been there for two days. Somebody's
thanks, well, fie. But ye

1043
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:20.960
was the one that Hashagen talks about
with the oh yeah, the traffic brol

1044
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:30.119
You weren't there yet. We were
in court. We're watching uh uh uh

1045
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:38.520
television traffic reporter Jane Joranacker on television
and that and all was that she shouts

1046
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:41.800
scream and hit the water, hit
the water, hit the water, and

1047
01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:48.520
and uh it uh. And they
took off when we saw where it was

1048
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:54.840
because they're watching live on television,
and they got there real quick. U.

1049
01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:58.159
When they got there, just the
blade was sticking out, and Paul

1050
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:02.960
Hashagen and I'm trying to know who
else went down. Bobby Shaffer who was

1051
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:08.760
from twenty one truck, he went
went in the water too, and Jackie

1052
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:14.840
Theobald, like four or five guys
go in the water there. And Paul

1053
01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.920
followed the blade of the helicopter down
and he got it was on its side,

1054
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:27.239
and he got the pilot first,
pulled him out, brought him up

1055
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:29.880
to the surface, and a bunch
of all the people greater and he went

1056
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.840
back down. Let's try to get
the reporter and she had been under too

1057
01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:36.199
long. They couldn't save They saved
the pilot. I was a real deal.

1058
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:42.840
Yeah, Well, wow, was
you spent a lot of your time

1059
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:46.920
in Manhattan? Yeah? You know, it was never a dull moment,

1060
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:53.199
that's for sure. And you s
you saw everything you worked in every every

1061
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:57.039
uh you worked in hallm You worked
in the Lower east Side, you worked

1062
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.279
Midtown, you worked. No,
I didn't want a lot in them.

1063
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:03.159
I didn't work a lot in Brooklyn. I you know, I covered there

1064
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:09.239
two fifty engine in Brooklyn and uh
and that kind of stuff. That was

1065
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:12.000
my own neighborhood in Brooklyn. It
was so cool to go back there.

1066
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:15.399
Very different than it was back then. When did you move up state?

1067
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:19.439
Uh? Right, I had about
year on the job, so it was

1068
01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:26.479
like seventy four and that was really
the country, you know, gals walking

1069
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:31.079
around the backyards and stuff. That's
before the riff raff moved in right there.

1070
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:42.439
Oh the other one, yeah,
before before the guineas came in basket

1071
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:48.800
they're growing. Yeah, they're making
a gravy on Saturday at Sunday mornings.

1072
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:59.560
Had stories you want to share,
Oh, there's a lot of them.

1073
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:05.720
Um. We we had we had
a fire in the old b Altman store

1074
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:14.640
and that was right off a fifth
Avenue and I don't know, like thirty

1075
01:33:14.720 --> 01:33:18.319
third or thirty but north of their
thirty fifth or thirty sixth street and it

1076
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:24.960
was a fur of wall b awthworn. I don't know whether you guys remember

1077
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:28.840
b Altmans was a big department,
so I remember the name. Yeah.

1078
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:32.239
Anyway, they we're going to convert
it into something else, so they of

1079
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:35.800
doing working Man. This is medd
A night we get called to this and

1080
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:40.840
other companies were out. We ended
up the first year on the scene and

1081
01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:45.199
we go up and the fires up
on this area and we know what was

1082
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:50.680
bartning. We had no sids about
that. Everybody knows who sids is?

1083
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:55.680
Uh computer or I was saying,
it tells us what's going on with the

1084
01:33:55.760 --> 01:34:00.119
building. We got up there and
we're moving on on the fire. We

1085
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:02.880
can't put the fire. App couldn't
figure out what the fire was. Now

1086
01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:06.880
we ran our air. We started
to back out and the chore start all

1087
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:10.800
across our heads. So we had
to turn the nozzle back on, back

1088
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:14.319
out with the line on to protect
ourselves. We got out, like what

1089
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:16.079
the heck? We couldn't put this
thing out, you know, two and

1090
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:19.279
a half in line on this kind
of stuff turning out. There was like

1091
01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:28.640
a four story fur wall built on
the roof of the old Altman store and

1092
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:32.880
it was refrigerated and you would pay
b Altmen and its store your mink,

1093
01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:38.239
you know, and then and it
was safe and secure, but it was

1094
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:45.239
chilled. So they had quake insulation
about a foot thick all around the I

1095
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.760
think that's what we're burning. So
here's this thing, you know, forty

1096
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:53.840
feet by forty feet by forty feet
with a foot of qualk insulation, and

1097
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:58.479
wonder we couldn't put the chore app
and then and it had a concrete roof.

1098
01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.239
Truck Me tried to open the roof, open the room and ended up

1099
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:06.560
to rescue company with Jack Allas and
stuff. Managed to get some ventilation in

1100
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:11.800
there and that gouts up. Well, we got we got burned back and

1101
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:15.399
out because we had to put the
right over our head of fire literally running,

1102
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.640
you know, rolling over our heads. So we had to back out

1103
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:23.000
with the line on. We opened
had the one to finally put it out.

1104
01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:27.560
Just I think what happened more than
anything is they just sort of held

1105
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:32.720
their position through companies in there for
a while and then eventually burned up all

1106
01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:38.880
the four. It helped when the
rescue companies got the roof open right,

1107
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:45.960
and and that was have another big
hot fire. You know, couldn't saying

1108
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.880
either too. You know, it's
it's oxygen deprived there, you know.

1109
01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:53.119
You you almost wonder whether we could
have had, you know, a backdraft

1110
01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.760
or something like that comes up.
It was like no ventilation for this thing.

1111
01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:00.920
Crazy stuff in Manhattan. Right,
you had sent some pictures of a

1112
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.640
collapse. We got some pictures of
the collapse. Right, what was it

1113
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:15.119
that? The uh? Oh them
which West thirty one Street collapse street?

1114
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:20.359
Yeah? Uh? Where were you
working with the hotel? I was in

1115
01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:27.279
twenty one truck. I was medically
I got into the fire or sick,

1116
01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:30.880
I don't remember anyway. So I
went to the medical office. My son

1117
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:35.000
came in with me, and he
was gonna go up and take the physical

1118
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:40.479
for the fire. Pum ended up
being a coup, but he's gonna take

1119
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:46.680
that. And we pull up to
thirty first Street and like seventh Avenue and

1120
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:54.640
my son, Kenny system means that
little smoke there, and I looked over.

1121
01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:58.119
I'm not true that smoke, but
it was it was that dust.

1122
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:04.159
The building collapse as all as dust. So he's a big guy, you

1123
01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:09.159
know. We go running over there
and there was a car there and the

1124
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:13.760
tail lights were on the car,
So thinking where somebody's in the car?

1125
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.960
Tail lights are on? Right?
What happened? So much material had gone

1126
01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:23.720
into the car that the bricks and
stuff were pushing on on the brake and

1127
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:30.159
that kind of stuff. So remember
that I looked as a woman climbing off

1128
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.600
the top of the pile, pregnant
woman climbing off the top of the pile.

1129
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:36.880
And she scratched up and stuffing.
She's not hurt there, and she

1130
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.399
says, I said, where were
you? She says, was on the

1131
01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:44.880
fourth floor when the thing collapsed.
She just wrote it down like a child

1132
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:50.560
slide. Basically pregnant. Well,
I mean like eight months pregnant. And

1133
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:55.600
we sort of helped her up and
that kind of stuff. So, you

1134
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:58.600
know, I didn't have any gear
with me or anything. The company started

1135
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.279
arriving and that kind of stuff.
I just said, I got to do

1136
01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:05.199
something here. I got her name. I sall get names because we had

1137
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:10.760
to try to figure out how many
people are trapped. So there's a picture

1138
01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:15.119
there of a bunch of guys in
the circle their tank. Yeah, uh

1139
01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:23.880
this is eight hoursn't in the incant
I think the guy with with no helmet

1140
01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:30.000
on, I think that's uh uh
bran o'flower to the captain rescue one.

1141
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:38.960
Anyway, is this women members is
walking across the pile and uh, all

1142
01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.159
of a sudden, somebody grabbed his
leg. A pot no. I think

1143
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:50.520
we had John Norman on here talking
about yeah yeah, and he going he's

1144
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:59.680
going past the the thing and the
brushes, and she grabbed his leg.

1145
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:03.199
I knew the guy. I can't
kept thinking of the name quickly, but

1146
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:08.920
and that kind of stuff, and
they realized she was still alive. This

1147
01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:13.000
is eight hours into the incident.
Wow A, Doug and Doug eventually what

1148
01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:16.239
they did, it's hard to see
in the picture. There was a professional

1149
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:25.960
photographer on the building next door and
he was looking down from above and Cook

1150
01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:29.640
that's how we got these pictures.
Well, I was able to get copies

1151
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.119
of his picture and and I got
him to ray downy. You all know

1152
01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:38.319
who he was, and that kind
of stuff, and he was he loved

1153
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:43.399
these pictures, you know. And
I'm trying to remember who was in rescuer

1154
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:48.840
one. I know Jay Fishlip was
the was the lieutenant working really good.

1155
01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:53.359
Eventually became a battalion tie. He's
the guy who would get on too.

1156
01:39:53.840 --> 01:40:00.520
We're not talking about him, we're
not asking him again. We see him

1157
01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:03.880
at the shows and we received at
all the shows. He said, talk

1158
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:14.920
to my agent, he said,
I think the Valley was at the thirty

1159
01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:19.319
first Street collapse too. Yeah,
I can't remember all the names and it's

1160
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:26.880
yeah, it's forty years ago and
stuff. But it just, you know,

1161
01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:30.000
like I said, here we are
stopped for traffic light and the building

1162
01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:35.760
collapses. You know, it just
you had just had and hat was crazy

1163
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:42.159
like that man, and then you
hit something and and you know I used

1164
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:48.720
to call me to I go after
some nice company needs cover a vacation and

1165
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:55.000
I have four fires and in two
days and stuff. We like you,

1166
01:40:55.720 --> 01:41:01.000
Cap, but please leave you.
The other places would be like, CAP,

1167
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:03.600
you gotta put your paper in there. Yeah, they're going get that

1168
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:09.039
out of all right, Cap.
Before you get to the old school tip

1169
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.159
of it day, let me ask
you, if you could go back,

1170
01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:13.960
would it be anything that you'd want
to try that you didn't get a chance

1171
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:15.920
to try while you were on the
job, or a company you wanted to

1172
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:19.239
go to that maybe you would have
liked, not that the company that you

1173
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:24.479
I would have liked to work at
Rescue. To be honest with you,

1174
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:30.359
I when when Spots opened, I
was already on the Captain's list and they

1175
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.359
weren't gonna you know, and I
would have liked that because I you know,

1176
01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:40.520
I I just liked doing that work. And I got to work with

1177
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.680
some wonderful, wonderful guys and rescue
one and some of the best ever.

1178
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:53.159
Yeah, and some of them are
going someone them settle around and that well,

1179
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:58.039
I wish you would have made chief
was on the list, and politics

1180
01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:01.800
being what they got left on the
list, you know. And that's why

1181
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:05.079
I decided to get out when I
did, you know, I got a

1182
01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:11.560
little anguag all the time, and
uh and that and I was I was

1183
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:15.920
until I phraced of two thousand and
eight the list, and so I had

1184
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.159
no chance that everyone has studying again
and when me in to the state capa

1185
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:25.640
and and that kind of which was
twenty six is fine, but you never

1186
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:29.319
know, I mean twenty of the
guy to replace me and into twenty six

1187
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:33.159
and all the guys except for the
show that we're working, we'll lost on

1188
01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:41.520
nine to eleven and never found on
you so happy for the reason I had

1189
01:42:41.600 --> 01:42:45.720
no way to know. But you
know you did what you did. Yeah,

1190
01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:47.159
it's just basically Russian roulette. At
that point. You don't know when

1191
01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:51.600
you could be working. Who knows. Now, I think it might be

1192
01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:56.479
time. Is it ready? Are
you ready for you? Your spotlight there?

1193
01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:03.960
Okay? All right, hold on, it's the old school tip of

1194
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:15.199
the day. All right, get
away. I think I should salute first,

1195
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:21.640
well the king, now, I
I was saying, no, one

1196
01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:28.960
of the things. I started looking
at videos a lot, and you noticed

1197
01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:36.439
something. If you can back the
engine company into the job so that you

1198
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:44.560
keep the hosebed facing the fire,
it's a lot better. You don't have

1199
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:48.199
as much problem stretching the hose around
rigs and this kind of stuff. And

1200
01:43:48.359 --> 01:43:53.359
then when I first thought of it, I was watching a video from San

1201
01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:59.600
Francisco of a large multipleall on fire
and the companies were reporting into the fire

1202
01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:02.159
and before they ended the block,
they stopped and backed down the block.

1203
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:08.600
So what's going on? So I
looked up their pastieges and that's pasiegues for

1204
01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:12.239
San Francisco fire. Upon you try
to back into the block, you want

1205
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:15.640
to keep the hosebed facing the fire
as much as possible. Okay, So

1206
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:19.520
that's the engine part. A lot
of company. But one of the things

1207
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:23.720
you see a lot, and I've
seen it all over the place in New

1208
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:29.119
York City and Upstate New York and
everything. Fire events itself through the roof,

1209
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:33.159
and they put a towel ladder up
or a lodder pipe up and they're

1210
01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:38.600
hitting the fire's fanning through the roof. The fire is ventuing through the roof.

1211
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:45.560
That's a good thing. You don't
want to have that driven back into

1212
01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:48.239
the building. The best thing to
do if the fires venting through the roof

1213
01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:53.640
is put a stream in. Whether
it's a tweladder stream, that's the best.

1214
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:57.479
You can move it around easy or
a ladder pipe and aim it at

1215
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:02.600
the top floor ceiling so you're blown
the things out through that vent hole through

1216
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:11.199
the roof. The sky doesn't burn. Guys. You may have a total

1217
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:14.720
exposure that you need to protect.
That would be one reason. But other

1218
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.439
than that, there's no reason to
put a stream onto the roof of a

1219
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:23.560
building if you have a total building
and you got to protect. I understand

1220
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:27.640
that, but don't don't be pushing
the bad stuff. We went out of

1221
01:45:27.680 --> 01:45:32.640
the flyer back into the fire with
your stream in the one hole venta.

1222
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:40.079
Yes, that was Are you finished
that, captain? Yeah? That was

1223
01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:44.079
Chief Haye. I remember Chief Haye. That was his uh his old school

1224
01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:47.439
tip was in commercial buildings, you
know, one story two story. Same

1225
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:50.319
thing, you know, like get
the bucket down at the street level,

1226
01:45:51.279 --> 01:45:55.680
pointing it up in there, not
not putting it down into the shaling similar.

1227
01:45:56.399 --> 01:46:00.079
Yeah, no doubt you blow in. You just got to watch for

1228
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:03.520
collapse. That's the thing, right, correct, bucket slow. I worked

1229
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:09.079
in towelous for a long time.
I'm telling what actually works, and that

1230
01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:13.520
works. All the ceilings down and
let all the bad stuff go out of

1231
01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:18.119
that hole in the roof. Excellent
cap. It was a pleasure. I'm

1232
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:21.079
glad you finally got on. I'm
glad I ran into you at the medical

1233
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:27.279
office. Yeah. It was serendipity. It was very good and serendipitous.

1234
01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:36.760
I like it. That's why the
council works. People, it's working.

1235
01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:46.479
Another drink rough. You gotta these
shout outs, buddy, I don't have

1236
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:50.239
anything for tonight. Now, all
right, we gotta do again one last

1237
01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:59.600
time Harrisburg Lancaster Expo. Uh it
will be let see the fifty first Annual

1238
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:04.840
Expo. Next weekend is next weekend
May nineteenth and twentieth. We will be

1239
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:10.319
in Booth four thirty six and the
keynote speaker will be none of them than

1240
01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:15.319
Louis friend of mine, Deputy Chief
Danny Sheridan will be the keynote speaker.

1241
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:17.760
You can either buy tickets online,
you can buy them at the door.

1242
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:25.479
Come see to get Soulpie brothers and
deput Chief Danny Sheridan will be the keynote

1243
01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:30.239
speaker. Secondly, we have the
New York State Chiefs Association one hundred and

1244
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:38.600
seventeenth Annual June fourteenth through the seventeenth. Roofie will be there with me up

1245
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:44.159
in Syracuse at the one Center,
the on Center whatever on Center, So

1246
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:45.920
come up and see us up there. I don't have the booth number.

1247
01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:49.039
I don't have to get that from
my wife. We'll be I'll be plugging

1248
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:51.880
that all the way up to the
day. So those are the two shadouts

1249
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:58.720
I got, and I don't want
to thank wholeheartily Captain Bobby Rainy for coming

1250
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:02.520
in and up sharing his his career
with us. Great career I got.

1251
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:09.199
Yeah, you got a lot like
always good stuff. Shout out the engine

1252
01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:14.680
fifty four in Philadelphia. My grandson's
watching the thing to I ran. He

1253
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:18.640
ran into us at the show at
FDIC. Oh, that's right, he

1254
01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:26.520
did. That's right good doing it
down in Philly doing it they're doing work

1255
01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:29.680
down too. Do it to work
in Philly? All right? Real food

1256
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:33.279
do we have on h I'm working
on a few people right for Monday,

1257
01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:36.840
So the eighteenth, next Thursday,
we don't have a show Monday. I'm

1258
01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:40.560
working on a few things. It's
a little tight because a Mother's day.

1259
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.079
But I'll see, we'll figure out
something. We'll get something going. We'll

1260
01:48:44.119 --> 01:48:46.159
bring some quality enter team and for
you guys, that's how we go.

1261
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:49.840
All right, I got something real
quick next week. Yeah, I'll be

1262
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:55.359
in Pensacola. See if TC will
BC hanging out with chiefly, No big

1263
01:48:55.439 --> 01:49:00.319
deal. We'll just be out joining
the Sunshine, right, there'll be a

1264
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:02.439
little training hang it out. Hello, all those what is the FTOC?

1265
01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:05.239
What do you? What is the
FTO? C E I E I O.

1266
01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:10.840
I mean everybody if you know you
know County Fire Tactics Command Officer boot

1267
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.760
Camp. It's uh fire training on
Pence Coffee. Oh, you and Frank

1268
01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:16.199
are going down there. Yeah,
and I'm taking the wife with me.

1269
01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:26.840
She's getting to go to her first
fire conference with me. I'm shame she's

1270
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:31.640
got to out rank you. Yeah
good, feel all right with me?

1271
01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:36.359
All right? Tem close us out, Yeah, do it kid. Thank

1272
01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:41.840
you guys, hang on cap we
got one more video to show real quick

1273
01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:45.800
that MC has made up for us
makes life a lot easier for us.

1274
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:48.159
Well, thank you first and foremost
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1275
01:49:48.279 --> 01:49:51.760
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1276
01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:55.760
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1308
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1309
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:04.479
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1310
01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:09.199
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01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:15.479
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1313
01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:18.039
I lady. All right, we'll
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1314
01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:20.920
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1315
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.640
your your mothers and all your ladies
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1316
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:28.039
the big one. Everybody, see
you on the fire floor.