1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:07,400 We are Innovate powered by Cisco, the IT Solutions people for business across Ireland. 2 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:13,880 Innovate installs, manages, reports and supports on your entire IT and telecommunications 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,760 environment to help drive your business for network, security, communications and productivity. 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:32,759 Contact Innovator today at Innovate dot Ie Innovate the IT Solutions People. I'm pleased 5 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,840 to bring in my special guests. Now you all know him. He's got 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,840 a huge fight coming up April twenty second against your Bata T Davis at the 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,799 Temobile Arena in Las Vegas, live on a showtime pay per view. It 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,960 is the Big Star, Ryan Garcia in his first headline big pay per view 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,280 fight. Ryan, thank you so much for joining me today. I really 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,759 appreciate I know you're busy, got got the fight coming up in the NATO 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,399 distant future. How's everything going getting ready for the big one? Man? 12 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,280 Everything's great. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate you. But 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:04,000 yeah, man, everything's going great in camp. I feel good, feel 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:10,359 strong, and honestly, everything is going as good as it could go for 15 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:14,959 sure. I'm glad to hear that. I wanted to start off by by 16 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:17,959 talking a little about the evolution of getting this fight made, because that was 17 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,560 such a big, big part of the build up to this fight. You 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,560 know, I know from our previous conversations going back well before this fight was 19 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,920 made, just how badly you wanted this not just any big fight. Do 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,920 you wanted this big fight? You You've been calling out and talking Tank Davis 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,000 his name. I want to say, it's got to be at least a 22 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,560 couple of years at this point. And while he didn't necessarily I don't. 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 I never felt like he was trying to avoid you. It wasn't like top 24 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,439 of his mind. You weren't like the first name out of his out of 25 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,799 his mouth, or first on the tip of his tongue when it came to 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 what his big fights were. So when when the fight was made, I 27 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,040 feel like you kind of I mean, he had to go along with it. 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Obviously you're both going to be in the ring, but you kind of 29 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,519 willed this fight into existence. As the way I've looked at it. Can 30 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,239 you just describe to me what it was about him and this fight specifically that 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,359 you were just you know, weren't gonna say no, We're gonna take no 32 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:10,360 for an answer. Well, I just always envisioned that this would be my 33 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:14,800 first huge fight that I would have in my career. This would be the 34 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,080 moment that could define my career, like the first moment that could define my 35 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,680 career. And I've always kind of chased that because inside, I just had 36 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:29,159 an intuition that I knew that this would be the fight, and he knew 37 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:32,599 it too. He said it like a long time ago, and he felt 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,240 the same thing, and I guess through time. You know, he obviously 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,759 didn't want to use anybody's name. I think that's a tactic of his. 40 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,759 He doesn't say any name. But for me, I just was so hungry 41 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:50,719 for this that I was always advocating to make this fight happen. You know. 42 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,039 Obviously, not only did I want it to happen, the fans wanted 43 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,840 it to happen. Everybody wanted it to happen. I mean all my comments, 44 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,280 you know, when you get to fight Tank. So I kind of 45 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,560 already knew that this was where it was going. And yes, I willed 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,280 it to happen, because again it's not that he was avoiding, but they 47 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:13,120 made it very difficult for me to say yes. So I mean you could 48 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:15,439 look at it at two ways, you know, they could look as you 49 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:19,639 know, they want to be you know, they want to have a stronghold 50 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,840 over me, or they really did want to avoid me. We'll never know, 51 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,360 But all I know is I never gave him a reason to say no. 52 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:29,240 And now we're here and I'm ready to go. So when you were 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,719 going through all of that, besides trying to work and get things done with 54 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:36,080 his team, not to say that your side didn't want to do the fight, 55 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,599 but it was complicated, you know, broadcaster issues, different promoters, 56 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:44,360 that it felt like maybe there were times where you and your own people were 57 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,039 kind of not necessarily on the same page in terms of moment moving forward with 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,879 this fight. How it's hard enough to make a deal with the other side, 59 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:53,560 How hard is it sometimes when you can't really quite get there with your 60 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,719 own people. Yeah, I mean it's difficult. It's difficult because, uh, 61 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:02,680 you know, you you know, longer feeling control of your career. 62 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,520 At times, you feel like, man, um, you know, I 63 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:11,639 really really want to happen, and everybody's discouraged, and you know, everybody 64 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:14,560 doesn't believe it's going to happen at times, and you know, you feel 65 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,279 like he wasted months and months, you know, of trying to make it 66 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:23,759 happen for no reason, and it really it really just uh, it really 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,040 had me down. I was like, man, this is ridiculous. Like 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,680 I didn't take a fight in October the way I wanted to, because you 69 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,040 know, the guys said I was going to fight in December, and it 70 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:38,600 was just a lot of things that I had to overcome mentally to just you 71 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:42,959 know, stay hopeful, stay hopeful that this is going to happen. And 72 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,680 you know, the stars align and ended up happening. But yeah, it 73 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,480 was it was pretty tough to to go through that. So you finally when 74 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:55,120 you got it agreed to. Then there was other things that were not necessary 75 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,240 problems making the deal. But he had his legal issues. Then he was 76 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 going to have it term fight. You opted not to have an interim fight. 77 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,240 So how how difficult was it to watch him go through the legal situation, 78 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,759 not knowing what's gonna happen, and then have a boxing match before that 79 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,000 and no, he's not only does he have to win the fight, but 80 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,720 he can't get injured, and you know how boxing goes, anything could happen 81 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:17,879 and you're just sitting idle not fighting. We a little was that never waking. 82 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:24,079 Yeah, definitely. Um, I didn't get too nervous, but there 83 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:29,959 was a level of concern of you know, is his legal problem is gonna 84 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,480 stop the fight from happening? I mean, what is this? Of course, 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:42,199 they they comforted me with the fact that it wasn't going to affect the 86 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,199 fight, so I was like, all right, cool. And then and 87 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,600 then when he was fighting Hector Garcia, I said, okay, I've seen 88 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:53,519 Hector fight. He shouldn't have caused taking any problems, but like you said, 89 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,639 anything could happen. That's the reason why I didn't take my fight, 90 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,360 because I was like, you know, I could hurt my hand where it 91 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:03,279 was like four to six, five to six months on the fight. I 92 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:08,519 mean, there's no way that I was gonna risk that name. Maybe he 93 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,160 can, but this means more to me than probably him, because I was 94 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,839 not risking it. How did you guys wind up at the one hundred and 95 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,600 thirty six pound catchweight because my thought was, you know, you're fighting your 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,000 last two fights close to one forty first one as a you know, acquiesced 97 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,519 to the opponent that couldn't make the weight. He has a belt, even 98 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:30,360 if it's a secondary belt. At one hundred and thirty five. Did you 99 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:31,759 have the thought of maybe let me go to thirty five and try to win 100 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,560 that belt. Was he wanting you to come down as low? Was he 101 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,160 willing to go up higher? Like? How'd you wind up in that number? 102 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 It's it's sort of a weird catchweight. Yeah, I never. I 103 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,279 never. He never told me that. They never asked to do one thirty 104 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,000 five. He keeps saying in these interviews that you know, I wanted it 105 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,600 at one thirty five. We started it, I believe at one thirty eight, 106 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:57,399 and then it started going down like just out of nowhere. He would 107 00:06:57,399 --> 00:07:00,519 say, no, we gotta do you know, one thirty seven. Then 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,360 a week later, oh, we got to do one thirty six. That's 109 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,920 how it got to that number. And I said, man, like, 110 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:11,160 I'm not going anymore lower, like I'm just not like like you should have 111 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,199 said from the jump, let's just do one thirty five, you know. 112 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,959 But he didn't like if I'm going more and more down uh with that six, 113 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:24,560 you know what? Like I said, I'm not giving him a chance 114 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,920 out of this. I'm gonna do it, and um, I don't care. 115 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,639 I don't care. It's like my mentality is like I don't care what 116 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,399 anybody throws at me. It's not even just him, anybody. You know, 117 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:40,879 when I really want something, I find a way to make it happen. 118 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,079 And of course, you know I'm not dumb. I know I could 119 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,600 make the weight and I know I could be strong. Uh, just just 120 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:53,759 it's a it's just discipline. I've seen worse weight weight cuts than this, 121 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:58,279 and I've done worst weight cuts. I just don't like a guy's character like 122 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,839 that. Like you know, it's just it's just like I've already accepted so 123 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,399 many other things, and you keep on adding other things and other things, 124 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,439 like come on, man, at what point do you save yourself. Let's 125 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,279 just get it on already, like as real as a real fighter, Like 126 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,160 fuck, why are you looking for every advantage to me? That's that's my 127 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:20,399 mentality, and that's why I lost a little respect, Like come on, 128 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,759 man, like we're fighters, Like let's just get it on, Like stop 129 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,079 with this. You know I need every advantage in the book, so just 130 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,199 to fight. And Ryan, it wasn't just one thirty six. He also 131 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:33,279 you know you you both you both have to only go up a certain amount 132 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,960 of weight with the rehydration. Right, that's a two way right hydration clause. 133 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,000 But what seemed to be easier for him than you because he's been fighting 134 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,720 at one thirty five for the last you know, several fights exactly. Um, 135 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:48,919 that's another thing I was like, I mean like, I was just 136 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,120 disappointing. I'm like, oh my gosh, they're like, you gotta do 137 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,919 it. If you don't do it, they don't want to do it, 138 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,639 they don't want to fight. And it's just another thing I just sucked up 139 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,080 and I'm like, all right, let's go whatever, Like you don't on 140 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:03,240 me and fucking gained ten pounds to eleven. Fine, you know. The 141 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,960 only thing I wouldn't let them touch is my gloves or you know, type 142 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,440 of shoes I wear. But anything out, let's fucking go. But yeah, 143 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,720 I was just disappointed a little bit. I just thought to myself, 144 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:22,759 like, I don't know if you're terrified or is this just your your character, 145 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,240 like you just that's just how you are. But I would say it's 146 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 a it's a really big fight. And the one thing I find to be 147 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,879 different than your usual and you know, let's call it a run of the 148 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,159 mill big megafight is This is not a title fight, and most of the 149 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,759 biggest fights that we've seen in boxing typically are for a major world title. 150 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,720 This he has his belt, although not a you know, it's a secondary 151 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,559 variety. You're fighting at one hundred and thirty six, no belts at stake, 152 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,320 and to me as a fan, it's sure doesn't affect my interest in 153 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,080 the fight. I don't think it will affect the interest of most people who 154 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,919 want to tune in and watch your fight. But what I'm interested is here 155 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,320 you are in your career, twenty three and oh nineteen knockouts, you know, 156 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,559 probably not even yet into your prime at your age. I wonder how 157 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,960 how important is it to you to be a world champion. I mean, 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 you're gonna make a lot of money and have a big event, but you 159 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:15,120 don't have that that trophy, that belt, that that notch in the history 160 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,120 book to say I was the lightweight champ or I was the junior welterweight champ 161 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,639 at least not yet. How important is that to you? You know, 162 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:26,399 maybe a part of me maybe it is important to me, but I don't 163 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,120 know, I don't know how much important I feel like winning a gold medal 164 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,360 was felt way more important than me. I don't know, Like when I 165 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,919 was in the Amateurs, like that was one of my dreams. So you 166 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,559 know, beating Lou Campbell made me feel like a gold medalist, so I 167 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,039 really felt really happy there. But well, you also got an interim title 168 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,279 with that fight. Yeah, I guess, so right, I'm an interim 169 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,159 champion. Yes, No, uh, I think I think. I think 170 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,559 I think it is important to me. I think I'll be shooting for though 171 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:03,080 for for that soon. But again, I want to feel like a champion. 172 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:05,960 I don't want to feel like these guys that are collecting these belts, 173 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,679 like for example, I don't like I don't even like he did beat Pajars. 174 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,360 I'll give him that, but like all these other titles, like how 175 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:16,879 can you really call yourself a chamber? Who do you beat? You know 176 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,240 what I mean? What you guy would? That's not a champion? Dude? 177 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,399 Like that? You pretty much you were given about. Like let's look 178 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,679 at the truth. Let's not fucking I know the I know the on paper 179 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:33,200 it says this, but if you really look at it, you're not that 180 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,759 many champion, you know what I mean? I think about this Ryan, 181 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,080 you walk into to the Golden Boy offices. You know, you have a 182 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,480 meeting about whatever is going on, and you come across those beautiful glass cases 183 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:50,039 there and an Oscar, your promoter. Oscar Deloy had huge amounts of Negro 184 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,399 fights through his square, but he had a lot of world titles. And 185 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:54,480 do you ever like go in there and see the case filled that there was 186 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:58,919 what something like ten world title belts from a whole bunch of different weight classes, 187 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:01,679 six different weight divisions, and uh, I think you know, he 188 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,200 had these big fights, made that big money, had these huge events, 189 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,159 but he also got those belts, and you know that's something I haven't quite 190 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,639 gotten too yet. No, because I don't even look at the ones that 191 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,399 he won that really mattered, you know what I mean, that really meant 192 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,879 something like the fight that he won and you know he fought the best and 193 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,879 that made him a champion. Because that's just how my mind works. I 194 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,960 don't I look at the real truth of it, Like I don't. I 195 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:28,159 want to live for myself. If I had won the title from Lou Campbell, 196 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,440 right like, does that really make me a champion? Lomachenko won the 197 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,200 title for Lou Campbell, does that make like? Does that count like what 198 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:39,519 matters, you know what I mean? To me, it's who I beat. 199 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,960 That's just how I feel my heart. You know. Of course, 200 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,279 if I beat Deafen Hainey for all the titles, that's gonna feel like I 201 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,799 won a championship because I feel like he's one of the best, you know 202 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,759 what I mean. So to me, the opponent also matters. But that's 203 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:54,840 just my heart. 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You need to think smarter, Ticket Smarter and take five percent 227 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:35,600 off of any order three hundred dollars or more with the promo code Fight twenty 228 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:39,399 three. Oh so in the future, like you're gonna look to maybe fight 229 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,679 for a tenle whatever it goes on in April twenty second. Yeah, as 230 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,919 long as it's against a great fighter, you know what I mean, I 231 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,759 would definitely be I'm not a dance yo. If there's a title online now 232 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:54,200 you know you can't. Can't. So the one thing about this fight that 233 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:58,600 I keep hearing from their side, and I don't know if this is that 234 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,879 it's they're trying to down you or they're trying to like make you focus on 235 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,080 it or what, but it's all this stuff. But well, the only 236 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,720 weapon that Ryan Garcia has is that left hook of his, which is a 237 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:09,519 great left hook. But I've watched you know, you're fight your whole career, 238 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,039 and yeah, the left hook is clearly your best weapon. But it's 239 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,879 not as though you don't have a right hand also, or or other things 240 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:18,919 you can do with your left hand. Um, do you find that like 241 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,799 they're fearful of that and they want you to focus solely on it, or 242 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:24,639 do they think that they that you really do have holes in your game? 243 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,639 Like when you hear them talk so much about that one attribute that you have, 244 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:33,480 they don't talk about your hand speed or your size advantage or your work. 245 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:35,080 They just talk about the left hook. What is the deal there, 246 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:43,600 you think? I think I think they believe that's why only Uh yeah, 247 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,200 I think they're Yeah, I think they're underestimating me for sure. I think 248 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,279 they see me as some guy that they could just walk through. Um And 249 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,039 I think they think they believe that they just have to watch out for that 250 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,000 left hook as they're coming in, you know, as they're they're walking me 251 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:07,240 down. I think that's the real game plan because I know that when I 252 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,360 was in the amateurs, they thought to just pressure me, you know, 253 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,480 because of just my frame, you know. But it's it's I've evolved. 254 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:19,279 I'm sorry, I've evolved as a fighter, and anybody who's trying to pressure 255 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:26,440 me has gotten knocked out really early when it's came to do No. Anybody 256 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,679 who's like Fonseca, if you come at me, has gotten knocked out really 257 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,159 early in the first round, first or second round. So if he if 258 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,600 he wants to come at me early, and if he thinks I only have 259 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:42,600 the left hook, I really believe that he's gonna walk into something and it's 260 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:48,200 gonna be a very shocking moment for everybody. So if you have the left 261 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,200 hook in this fight and everybody knows that's your great weapon, what do you 262 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,159 view as his best weapon. I think some people might say it's his uppercut. 263 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,080 I'm not sure. What do you think when you see him? I 264 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:03,919 think his best attribute is his ability to sense punches as he's coming in and 265 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,880 encountering. I think that's his best attribute. So I have to be tricky 266 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:14,119 in my attacks. I have to, you know, not let him predict 267 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,920 any of my moves. So that's what I'm really working on, because I 268 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,440 think his best attribute is fighting on the front foot encountering at the same time. 269 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:26,599 That's just how I feel he fights best. I don't feel he fights 270 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,000 that good going backwards. People say, oh, he boxes, but yeah, 271 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,160 he boxed, but doesn't look that good. So anybody could bock a 272 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,599 box, right, I can move around, but he's gonna look that good, 273 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,039 you know what I mean. So I really feel like his best attribute 274 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,480 is coming forward encountering. He just has a good sense on what punches are 275 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:48,680 coming. So that's why I feel like he's best. All right, I 276 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,079 just got a couple more for you. This is your third fight with Joe 277 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,839 Dooson as your head trainer, and uh, you know, I've talked to 278 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,119 boxers over the years, and a lot of them will tell you it takes 279 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,200 you know, two or three fights at least to really sort of gel and 280 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,319 feel the most comfortable with what's going on in the corner. Um, this 281 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,599 is your third fight, so I don't know if you're quite there yet. 282 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,000 I would wondering what your thoughts are as far as where you think Joe and 283 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,599 you are. I know you work together years ago when you're amateurs, so 284 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:17,960 perhaps that was able to accelerate the gelling process. But how would you describe 285 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:26,160 that that working relationship you know, now that we've had two camps. Uh, 286 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:30,480 I'm pretty vocal, So if I'm uncomfortable with something, I'll let him 287 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:33,200 know. So we we've got into a great place where we know each other. 288 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:37,960 And honestly, he's just a great man to be around with. You 289 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,880 know, He's somebody that could have great conversations with deep conversations with um. 290 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,880 He has a lot of experience. Obviously, he's a Hall of Fame trainer 291 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:51,079 now and even before he had the Hall of Fame. I mean, look 292 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,839 how many years, fifty years or you know, however many he's been in 293 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:56,319 the game, not quite that many. He'll feel he'll feel old. If 294 00:18:56,319 --> 00:19:00,000 you say fifty, I know, he'll probably saynything. He'd be like, 295 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,720 you know, it look good for some it look good. Uh you got 296 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:07,799 his shirt for fighting night? Is the question? H man? You know 297 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:15,039 what that's that's hiss about a billion uh Uh Jeane jackets, So he'll he'll 298 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:18,440 find one. He'll just probably close his eyes and picket. But uh, 299 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,599 but yeah, I mean it's been great. Uh and I'm ready to I'm 300 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,759 ready to do my thing. But yeah, with Joe, Joe's a great 301 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,480 trainer, it's gonna be good. You know. I'm I'm a smart guy 302 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,400 too. So that's the thing. Like, I'm gonna make sure it works 303 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,759 out. Whoever I'm training with, it's gonna work out great because we're gonna 304 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:42,480 figure it out together. Um. I'm believing collaboration, you know, and 305 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:48,079 just finding the best thing possible, you know, no ego involved, no 306 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,160 pride, just trying to figure out what what is the best training method or 307 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:56,160 you know what I mean. Um, So I feel like it's gonna be 308 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,440 great. Well, I know that winning the fight is obviously the big thing. 309 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 For both of you guys, getting a win in this big spot is 310 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,680 obviously huge, But how much more would it mean to you or how much 311 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:08,680 more do you want this to be the case? For you to win this 312 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:15,160 fight and do it buy a knockout. I think it's important that I make 313 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:21,759 I'm intentionally going in there to make a special moment that's important for me, 314 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:25,839 and I want to knock him out in front of the world that I really 315 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,759 do deep down on my heart. Yeah, wins great, but I've never 316 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,519 thought like that in my life, and I don't think I'm gonna start now 317 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:38,599 just because it's this fight. I'm coming in there with the intent to sleep 318 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,799 him. I mean, I want him to go to, you know, 319 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,119 night night in front of the world. So that's just how I'm sure he 320 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,440 wants that for me, but I'm not gonna let that happen. You figure, 321 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,240 if you're able to win or get a knock out either way, that 322 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,480 a lot of people that have downgraded you and say you're just a pretty boy, 323 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,359 you're just a social media guy, that by winning this fight with every 324 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:04,480 way it goes, that you'll finally get that that element of respect from a 325 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:07,599 large group of people that for whatever reason, don't respect you. Yes, 326 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,359 Yes, this is the fight to do it. That's why this fight me 327 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,960 so much. For me, it's big, It's bigger than just this fight. 328 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,359 It's just something I've been dealing with since I was a young boy. 329 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,599 So this has this has a lot of attached to it. I don't want 330 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,759 to lose this fight. I don't like I'm doing everything I could. You 331 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,359 know, I'm making sure that el Stone is unturned, like I'm making sure 332 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,720 I'm doing every single thing possible to win this fight. So I want this 333 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:38,960 more than anything I've wanted. All Right, I think that's a great place 334 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,720 to end it. Ryan, thank you very much for doing this, and 335 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,359 I wish you the best of luck in your fight and I'll look forward to 336 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,160 seeing you well fighting. Yeah, Dan, You're the man.