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Produced by p I Media. Hi
i'm Ran Levy, Welcome to CP Radio.

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In the wake of the terrorist attack
on October seventh, which claimed the

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lives of around one thousand, two
hundred civilians in Israel and led to the

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capture of over two hundred more,
Iran, which provides support for mass as

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well as related terrorist outfits like Chris
Bullah in Lebanon and the Rutis in Yemen,

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has over and over threatened to get
involved. Its Minister of Foreign Affairs

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has spoken about how quote if the
Zionist aggressions do not stop, the hands

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of all parties in the region are
on the trigger and quote expansion of the

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scope of the war has become inevitable
end quote, with the prospect of a

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wider war. As spotlight has turned
to Iran's military capabilities, though its army

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isn't so feared, its nuclear capabilities
are, and even before all that,

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history shows we might choose to utilize
the power of cyber attacks. Four years

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now, Iran's state sponsored hackers have
been some of the most prolific in the

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world, but prolific does not necessarily
mean sophisticated. Its attacks haven't quite impressed

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in the way that the US,
Russia, and China's do, they are

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more comparable, perhaps to lesser powers
like North Korea and Azerbaijan. Consider,

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for example, the group Checkpoint tracks
as Scarred Mandicore. Since twenty nineteen,

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Scarred Mandicor has been carrying out espionage
campaigns in countries largely concentrated in the Middle

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East, sometimes successfully, but using
back doors that don't look so different from

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what you'd see with non state sponsored
cyber communal groups. Some of them appear

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to be modified version of publicly available
tools Amittai benchushan el threat intelligence analysis team

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lead at Checkpoint Research. One of
them is the Tuna webshell, which is

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used to tunnel traffic over a webshell
over at GTP. Tuna was Scarred Manticore's

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first known too. You can download
it yourself from GitHub. Hundreds of people

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have already. According to its creator, it enables a red teamer or hacker

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to wrap and tunnel their TCP Internet
traffic, hence the name Tuna, bypassing

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network protections in fireworld environments, and
as we deep dived into the evolution of

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this specific Tuna webshell, we saw
that they implemented their own mechanisms into it

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and slowly started giving it their own
versioning and embedding additional functionalities within it.

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As Scarred Manicore iterated on Tuna in
bits and PA, over time, it

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began to look different enough to be
considered its own malware checkpoint, named the

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modified Tuna backdoor Foxshell, fox Shehell
became a favorite go to weapon. Over

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time, it turned into a very
unique backdoor, a very unique webshell that

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was also used in a text against
Albania as reported by CISA. We were

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also able to tie that some of
the webshells and internal DLLs that are used

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as resources in it to another backdoor
that was used in the Middle East called

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the SDD backdoor, a backdoor that
was used in targeted attacks in Saudi Arabia.

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It seems it was analyzed by a
Saudi researcher that we referencing the report

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and most recently it was tied to
sophisticated the implant called wind Topics, which

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is a driver based implant that was
reported by Fortinet. Showing the evolution.

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You know, we started from this
open source webshell Tuna, slowly turning it

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into something custom, adding more functionalities, ending internal resources. Then we see

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the backdoor, the acidy vector,
and then the wind tapic drivers actually takes

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the best of those bursts of both
words and embeds them into this sophisticated implant

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that utilizes the driver to inject code
and hide functionalities. Fact show was,

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in retrospect, a harbinger of things
to come. Whereas the Iranian threat actor

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started off at a level akin to
ordinary cyber communal groups. Here they were

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demonstrating that they could distinguish their work, that they could create a unique and

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powerful mailware tool capable enough to be
used in successful campaigns across a number of

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countries. And then just recently,
Iran arguably truly announced itself as a global

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CyberPower, and a campaign recently uncovered
by three cybersecurity groups Checkpoint, Signia and

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Cisco Talus, Scarred Manticore, unleashed
tools and tactics unlike anything we've seen from

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the Islamic Republic before. If before
they were at the kid's table, this

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latest campaign suggests that they might have
just moved up. The story of this

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campaign begins with a dynamic link library
or DLL. DLLs are shared libraries groupings

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of code stored in memory that can
be evoked by any given application. They're

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terribly useful since there are certain things
lots of programs need to be able to

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do, and it wouldn't be all
that efficient if every one of them needed

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the code to do it. It's
like how every person needs to be able

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to use the bathroom, but not
every person in your office needs their own

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individual bathroom as much as i'd of
my own office bathroom. By having a

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couple that everyone shares, you save
a massive amount of square footage and everybody

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still gets to poop. Plus it's
much easier for the janitor to replace the

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soap or toilet paper if he doesn't
have to run around doing it in twenty

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different bathrooms. DLLs are useful and
utterly normal on every PC. But the

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DLL an Italianist colleagues who were facing
was not your average file. So when

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we came across the DLL, it
was very strange to us. It was

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located in the system thirty two,
which is a legitimate path besides the folder

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system thirty two. The DLL file
names themselves also seemed rather ordinary. There

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was WLBS control dot DLL and w
LANAPI dot DLL. W LAN, of

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course, is very basic and ubiquitous
Wi Fi technology. In other words,

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these were the kinds of folders and
files you find everywhere on any PC.

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Usually, if you're looking for something
in particular, like malware, you'll scroll

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past them without thinking twice. And
as we deep dived into the artifact related

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to what we found, we saw
that the dls really were sideloaded by a

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legitimate service, a side loaded DLL. This is something you hear a lot

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about nowadays, but it wasn't always
so. For years, when they wanted

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to load malware on your computer,
hackers sent Microsoft Office files where it documents,

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Excel files, and so on,
containing malicious macros, which are shortcuts

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for running custom code. If you
okay the macros in a phishing file,

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you open the window for hackers to
plant, say a malware loader on your

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computer, which could retrieve and execute
a backdoor ransomware, or anything else you

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can imagine. But on the episode
how Microsoft changed cyberspace with one decision were

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discussed on this podcast how after years
of macro abuse, Microsoft decided to block

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Internet downloaded macros by default. Hackers
now needed new ways to get malware on

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your machine. One of the most
popular alternatives they've since landed on is DLL

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sideloading. Instead of a file hiding
malware, the attacker sends the victim a

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legitimate program with an illegitimate DLL.
Any executable program will come with a manifest,

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a kind of a rule book that
specifies which DLLs will load and in

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what order. If these instructions aren't
specific enough, though, hackers can take

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advantage sneaking their dirty code inside of
a DLL that basically fits the bill.

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So you're running a totally normal software
program, but unbeknownst to you or your

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computer, the program loads and attackers
malware. In this case, Scarred Manticore

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did one better, taking advantage of
an absence of certain DLLs in certain Windows

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servers OS versions. So a program
that looks to evoke the DLL in question

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shouldn't find it in such distributions,
but in this case, it thinks it

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does, and it's the attackers code. This required an intimate knowledge of the

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operating system to an agree not many
people anywhere really have. At this point,

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I think we realized that this was
a very unique kind of attack,

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and a very sophisticated one. But
this was only the very beginning of the

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attack. Even more sophisticated tricks were
it to come. When we looked into

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the DLL itself, like after we
understand how it was loaded and now the

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attack was carried out, we also
saw that it uses some interesting features that

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are undocumented in the Windows operating system. Again, the attackers were toying not

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with ordinary software, but the fundamental
functions of the OS itself. If a

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Windows PC were the Earth, they
were way way below the surface, digging

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at its core. More specifically,
it was using undocumented cores of the HTTPCS

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driver, which is the Windows driver
that handles all the incoming HTP requests for

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Windows servers. The way that it
happens in the background is that actually cause

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internal functionalities of the operating systems that
are not supposed to be used by users

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like me and you. Even a
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To reiterate, not only were scarred
manticore manipulating httis a kernel level driver

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that nobody, even programmers, are
supposed to touch, but they were engaging

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with undocumented features within it. Totally
unprecedented stuff because this kind of method,

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specifically involving the GTPCS driver, was
never observed in the wild, and we

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had to try to understand ourselves how
it works and what happens because it's not

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documented anywhere. It's not a legitimately
documented functionality of this driver. Specifically,

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the malware utilized device input and output
controls or ioctls, which enable an application

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to interface directly with a driver.
The attackers had absolutely no business knowing about

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the HTP dot CS ioctls, and
it allowed their malicious code to skip anything

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in between them and this kernel level
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of a PC was just powerful.
It made the attack substantially more difficult to

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identify and rooted out. Usually security
measures are monitoring the legitimate kind of calls

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the API calls for such things,
so an advanced attacker usually tries to go

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lower in the operating system to try
to fascillate those kind of functionalities that are

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not legitimate and not shouldn't be used
by normal users. If you're not yet

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convinced how cutting edge this attack path
was, here's something to consider. We

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don't even know how they did all
this. After all their investigating in collaboration

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with a second cybersecurity company as well. Amitaianist colleagues can only take guesses at

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house card maticore managed to get that
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It's quite hard to tell what was
the process behind it, but they

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would eventually need to either reverse engineered
the driver itself to understand the undocumented functionalities

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in it, which would require knowledge
and understanding of reverse engineering, or they

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could do some trial and error,
which is less likely to be successful.

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The way that they carried out suggest
that they knew exactly what they were doing,

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so I would assume they probably had
to reverse engineer some of the Windows

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driver. Amid all this groundbreaking technical
wizardry, you might have forgotten that we

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haven't even gotten to what the hackers
malware actually did. Yet, it too

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did something novel. Picture a bit
of mailware latching onto the HTTP dot sys

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driver like a parasite. By fascinating
the https's driver, they were intercepting incoming

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connections. The parasitic malware placed just
above the driver intercepted incoming HTTP traffic,

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so if a user, say,
visited a website, mailware was the first

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to know about it. The point
of this, though, was to listen

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for a very particular request, a
request with a specific URL prefix defined by

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the attackers. If such a URL
was evoked, the malware would intercept the

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message, decode it, and from
the HTTP requests initiated by the attackers they

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extracted payloads and in memory, they
decrypted those and loaded a set of shell

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codes which appeared to be part of
a larger framework of malware that we dubbed

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Liontail. Liontail is the name we'll
use to describe the whole category of malware

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used in this campaign, from the
payload loader to the many other tools it

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contained Therein, using this framework could
carry out a lot of kind of activities.

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We've seen them do credential harvesting,
We've seen them do reconnaissance. We

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saw them use this framework to run
commands, running commands, uploading and downloading

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files, and various other info stealing
related activities like credential harvesting and lateral movement

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over the target network. And being
a framework, lion Tail contained some parts

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it could evoke or ignore based on
the system it was running on. For

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example, one of the back doors
that we reported on is something that we

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call Lionhead, which is some sort
of web forwarder that is installed on exchange

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servers, and what it does is
actually fascinating. The same functionality of the

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htpc's driver to forward incoming requests to
specific exchange end points. Essentially, Lionhead

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was to email what then on tail
backdoor we described was two HTTP and by

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doing so it allows the threat actor
to easily download mails. The robustness of

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lion Tail and the remarkable means Scarred
Manticore used to plant it on target systems

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allowed the group to run through some
serious victims. The campaigns included attacks across

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Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Saudi Arabia, and the

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United Arab Emirates. Each one of
the targets was extremely interesting and very relevant

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to the Iranian cause. We're seeing
governmental organizations, we're seeing military organizations,

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and we're seeing a lot of telecommunications
organizations that are targeted by Scart, mendicor.

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This is very telling of their goals
of collection and espionage. It's not

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yet known what the group might have
stolen from any one of these targets,

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but these details are almost beside the
point. Some of those targets were interesting

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also in that aspect that you wouldn't
think it's very easy to infiltrate those kind

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of organizations. I'm sure it wasn't
easy, but those guys managed to do

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so, which indicates how good they
are. Scarred Mandicore is now very sophisticated,

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and that in itself has broader implications. I've been looking at Iranian threat

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actors for quite some times, and
I could say that the evolution of Scarred

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Menicore specifically is worrying in the sense
that they are starting to create like costum

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tools that are not trivial. Even
if Vranian actors in the past have created

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their own Tuesday were always, you
know, a little bit more of the

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same. You had backdoors that are
more sophisticated. Some of them started to

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use like emails as exfiltration channel in
the more sophisticated one. But seeing this

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actor or that utilizes undocumented functionalities of
drivers, for example, is something that

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I haven't seen personally in any Iranian
group. And considering the fact that we

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see where it started in twenty nineteen
from an open source webshell to where it

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is today, that's quite a thing
to consider. In only four years,

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Scarred Manticore went from forgettable to groundbreaking. The impact that could have on the

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cybersecurity landscape and geopolitics more generally are
significant because it's not like we're talking about

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no way of the size shells here, we have evidence that in the path

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their access was actually utilized to conduct
destructive attacks. Certain weapons in Scarred Manticore's

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toolset overlap with those used by the
Iranian state hackers known as Homeland Justice in

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a campaign against Albania in May of
That case might have appeared like espionage at

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first, as the attackers spent over
a year moving within their target networks and

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expeltrating sensitive data, but then all
at once they deployed ransomware and wiper manware,

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taking down government websites and services,
posting political messages and leaking sensitive data.

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Even those kinds of stealthy attacks and
spionage motivated thread actors sometimes utilize their

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access for destructive means. And that's
important to remember because the fact that this

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thread actor has been in your network
and collected information for a certain period of

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time does not mean that one day
it won't exploit in your network and like

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start deploying wipers and ransomware. And
we actually seen some indications that this is

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happening in Israel as well. We
haven't covered it in the report yet,

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but we do know that some of
the confirmed Scared Menicore's victims experienced destructive attacks

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in Israel, wiper attacks and leakage
in some of using some fake personas.

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As Iran loves cyberbombs into Israel and
the rest of the Middle East, everybody

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will be forced to take notice or
else. I think a lot of researchers

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don't fully understand the evolution that we're
seeing from Iranian actors over the last few

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years. In the realm of like
the Big Four, like Iran, North

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Korea, Russia, and China.
Iran is also has always looked as like

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the kitten, the non harming,
very simple, very unsophisticated threat actor,

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which was true at a certain point, but I think this one Scared Manicore

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completely changes that. I think in
certain aspect it's more sophisticated than a lot

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of Chinese, Russian or North Korean
actors that I've analyzed in the past,

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and that's important to remember. Like
a lot of times, I had this

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debate with my friends over the term
APT like advanced persistent threat, which turned

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into a name for any state sponsored
actor in the cyber threat intelligence field,

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but originally meant like very advanced attackers. And my friends who aren't really deep

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into intelligence or like, you can't
call Iranian actors apts because they're not really

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advanced, and I think this one
completely shatters this perception of Iranian actors.

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That's it for this episode. Thank
you for listening. For past episodes,

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