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to continue running. Now on with the show, Hello, Casey, Welcome
to the show. Hey, how's you going next? Pretty good? Thank
you and thank you for coming on today. And you'll call in from the
state of Idaho. Yeah, yeah, I've only been here for about a
year, but living in Idaho now, and do you like it. Oh
yeah, I love it. It's um well, I lived in if you
know, Washington kind of around Seattle area, and it was just dealing with
traffic and out here it's a lot more open and I have a really outdoor
lifestyle, so camping, hiking, fishing, all that. So yeah,
it's perfect out here for me and my family. Perfect. It sounds lovely.
Okay, Now, Casey, you have some unexplained experiences to share.
Would you like to start the beginning please? Yeah. Yeah, I'll just
start at the beginning. So let's see. So I was born in nineteen
eighty two, so definitely nineties kid, you know, eighties and nineties kid.
But ever since I was a little kid, I really dealed with a
lot of sleep paralysis. I mean basically my whole life. It kind of
as it became an adult, it's it's it's phased out a lot. I
still get it, but not like I did when I was a kid and
teenager. I mean it was multiple times a week i'd be dealing with that.
And you know, and when I just assumed that was normal, that
everyone got that, and it sounds like a lot of people do, but
you know, I dealt with bed wedding, and I think that's related to
that. Up until an age I shouldn't have been, and I would always
get a lot of bloody noses as a kid and teenager, and it would
just for no reason, you know, wouldn't be like humidity change. It
would just I would wake up and I'd have a bloody nose, and or
I'd just be sitting there and sometimes my mom would say that I'd kind of
space out a little bit and then get a bloody nose. So I don't
know if that's related but or to everything, but yeah, that would happen
a lot. And then my big thing was during sleep paralysis. Every once
in a while I would see some sort of It wasn't like a top pat
like people talk about a shot, like kind of a shadow in the background,
But what I'd get a lot is spiders. I'd see a lot of
spiders. And everyone's sometimes to be a single big spider, but a lot
of times it'd be a lot of little spiders. And I'll always chopped that
up to like wild imagination. But I remember ever just tucking in my sheets
to the extreme around my feet, my whole body, just because they just
would see these shadows I would think, I thought as an adult that is
like, oh, that was just my imagination. But I would see these
things and and actually to this day, like if I go to a hotel
and the sheets are tucked in or something like that, I have to untuck
it because I would get really claustrophobic with my feet tucked in like that.
I remember being a little kid just getting all sweaty and wanting to get out.
But those spiders, you know, And on that fast forward. Actually,
just the last year, I was listening to a podcast and this lady
wrote a book about sleep Rout assistant. She casually dropped in there that people
see shadows spiders, and that she didn't really go into more detail, but
that that that blew my mind. That's what I was dealing with, Like
these shadows spiders. I like bugs, and even when I was a kid,
I'd be okay with spiders. But actually, just recently, I've watched
in the Star Wars Mandalonian show on the Disney Channel, and they had a
scene in episode two with all these little spiders, and like, out of
all the movies ever saw, that scene creeped me out more than anything.
I was like, I almost had to look away, and I can watch
anything but that I was like, well I could, I couldn't handle that.
But so okay, So from on there and this kind of I try
to like I asked my mom a few of this to try to get a
timeline at things. But so when I was in when I was five,
in preschool, I think I was, yeah, preschool, I was at
this small school and for some reason at this it was I think it was
like a Catholic school or something like that. For members in my memories are
really vivid at this place, like I remember it is weird. I remember
what people wore, I remember the teacher really well, just all around this
school. I have really vivid memories. And I had this So I had
this weird memory and where I was going in the back part of the school,
the outside area, and we were blowing those really big bubbles like you
get like a bigger ring and you do a big bubble. And I went
around the corner and I just remember freezing. And it sound a little weird,
but I felt like I physically like I saw my body as a kid
and I went inside that bubble and I I don't know if something traumatic happened.
And I've heard since then that, you know, sometimes people have traumatic
things happened to them and then they kind of like they they kind of as
a kid and you forced yourself to like leave your body or you know,
like visualize yourself leaving your body. But it felt very um, it felt
really real. I still it still feels like it was a real memory.
So I don't know what that was. But I think with sleep prolysis and
really vivid dreams and sometimes the feelings was the same symtimes and sleep proud,
my body would vibrate and I could like I could see my body. So
I don't know, but that was kind of a weird, a weird experienced.
And I remember my mom around the time was saying that, you know
something, she was saying something that I got in trouble from the teacher,
and she said that the teacher didn't make sense of what I was saying,
like as in like I was telling this teacher something that didn't make sense to
her, and so my mom pulled me from that school. But I,
you know, that's still something that I've been trying to get out of my
mom, if she has more information or what, But I you know that's
like something like I think about. And so fast forward to when I was
about seven, dealing with sleep proalysis. I did have probably the weirdest one
I had as a kid. Was laying there sleep prowses. I can't move,
you know. I well, if you don't know what sleep proviss,
I'm sure everyone does. But you basically are asleep, but your mind is
awake, and then you're paralyzed. So you know, you try to tell
yourself move your fingers, move, move, you know, and you start
to kind of panic as you can't. You feel paralyzed, and you're really
Sometimes your senses are really alert. You can hear noises and feel vibrations.
But I was in that and I started feeling vibrations really strong, and I
saw like and you know in Star Wars or Star Trek when they go to
hyper speed and there's like tracers. I saw like all these tracers. And
the weird thing is I my room was upstairs and my parents was downstairs.
I woke up all my parents' floor, or I didn't. I got up
from that experience from my floor, so I went to bed. In my
bed, I know I was in there, and then I was on my
parents' floor. So I don't you know, maybe I slept walk and I
was having a weird at a body experience. I don't know, but um,
and actually my parents were a little concerned because of all the sleep proass
and the experiences, and you know, there's no Internet back then, and
they weren't finding too much information. And actually, after that night with the
tracers or whatever, they actually got me like a full like EG to make
sure I wasn't having seizures, and everything showed up negative. So yeah,
that was kind of strange. And then, um, another experience I had
was this happened when I was in sixth grade twelve. My high school friend
or I mean, well junior all the way through high school. Friend.
There we go, I won't I'll just call him Steve, but that's not
his name. But Steve and me and his mom went to his cabin.
And this was in Washington and it was kind of by Olympia. I can't
it was. It was off the freeway, it was on a lake,
and I can't remember. I mean I was, I wasn't really paying too
much attention, but it was just us three and I guess kind of side
note, I kind of sense there was some kind of something going on with
his parents, you know, like fighting or something like that, so it
was just it was just me, me, Steve and his mom. But
we get there, you know, it's a nice view and hanging up the
lake, and his room where he slept had like an upstairs like you climb
up a ladder, and there were some bunks up there, and up there
was a wigi board. And you know, I've heard about wigi boards but
never used one. And I grew up on a religious household, and you
know, I remember my ball. I'm telling me they're super evil, but
I didn't really wasn't really buying into that. And he was like, yeah,
this these really work and it really works here. He's like, I've
taken it home to my house and it doesn't work, but it really works
in this cabin. And he said that he found it in the basement of
this cabin that they bought on the lake. And the whole time I'm just
like, no, you know, or kind of like I don't think,
so, I don't think. So he got as serious as you can get
for a twelve year old. It's like, no, I'm serious, this
really works. We will try it and so okay, you know, and
you know we're asking questions and you know, sure enough, it's it's moving
and you know, just slightly, and it seems like it's answering the questions.
And I knew nothing about really like how you're supposed to be using these
things, and you know, like I, you know, I didn't know
you're supposed to say I don't remember signing off, like you're supposed to say
make it go goodbye, or say that okay, yeah, I'm done,
or say you're done, and it was say kind of like, you know,
it's just you know, I remember, like what's your name? You
know, I gave us a name I can't remember. And then through questions
it said it was going to see us that night, which is kind of
kind of creepy, but in the back of my mind, I'm like,
this is this is Steve messing with me, you know. And then he
went downstairs to go to the bathroom or something, and I was like,
I'm I'm taking this thing out. I'm like, let's see this worst with
just me and I. I kid you not, it was I mean,
it was just me and it was working. And also apparently that's a big
no no and I asked the question and it was somewhat like it was a
number. I can't remember what, but it was like a number based question.
And the Ouiji board went to six and then it backed up and then
went up to six again, backed up and went to six. And I'm
not like I thought, even though I was, you know, twelve religious
family, I wasn't really I didn't believe in any you know, I was
over the church at that age. And then in my hand it started moving
fast and it was kind of going like in a circle and freaked me out.
That freaked me out. And another like side note on that, I
was listening to another podcast as adult and thereon was telling a weuigi board story
or you know, and they said that something to do with like portals and
then making the affinity symbol. And I thought about it, and I was,
that feels very accurate of what was happening that it was because I remember
like a circle like going and it was going kind of fast. And once
again I didn't close that out because I didn't know. But um, but
as far as like you know, I've told a few people that and you
know, people, I asked me if I feel like anything's like attached to
me and I don't think so I haven't really. I mean, I definitely
have had really weird experiences throughout my life, but nothing that lines up with
people when they get to attachments like that. And I also have really bad
ADHD. So I if I think something, I'll start thinking about the next
thing and I forget about what I was just thinking about. So I don't
know, maybe something weird happened here or there and I just forgot about it.
Okay, So going further more too, when I was in my early
twenties one twenty two, around that age, we used to go to this
me and three or four friends would go to this bar. They had dollar
beer nights or picture Knight, which is ridiculous. They had to raise the
price to two dollars and limit two per person, which is still insane.
So we get these pictures of beer and just you know, get pretty drunk.
And ever once in a while we would if we still wanted to hang
out when the bar's closed, we'd walk to this this lake and or we
walk in this trail and at the lake and it was just all quiet and
we never saw people or anything like that. But we were sitting there,
and I know that we left a little before. I remember this night because
we left a little well. I remember because there was a girl that had
a crush on the game with us but came with us, And I remember
leaving half an hour before the bar closed, so you know, like one
thirty and go to the trail, sit down the lake and we're just hanging
out. We're all, you know, it's like five of us talking and
we saw a well, I mean, it seemed like a shooting star or
a meteor or something like that. And I've tried to look up if this
this happens when you see certain meteors getting close to the surface or what,
but I nothing has really popped up. They're really this exactly like this.
But you know, if anyone knows for a fact, this is what happens.
When we streaked the sky, it like three seconds it turned to like
complete daylight bright. It was so bright, and we were all like what
like, we all just stopped, you know, and are talking and just
like wow, you know what amazing, and we're all like that was that
must have been a meteor, you know, and that was great. But
I don't know the reason I mentioned this story is when we got when we
walked back off of the trail, it was five in the morning. I
mean, because I remember thinking really like, why how were we out there
that late? You know, it wasn't uncommon for me to stay up that
late at that time, but it was like, there's no way we you
know, four hours or whatever, two max. But I remember just thinking
that, I guess we just lost track of time. But yeah, so
that was that was kind of that was a little weird there. Well,
this isn't really I don't think this is really like paranormal or anything like that,
but I kind of run the same time. There's an area called Tacoma
in Washington, and I was going on a first date with this girl,
but we knew each other but first day in person. And I've always been
interested in the unknown, and you know, she kind of seemed like she
was too. And found out that there's an old banded mental institute in Tacoma
across from the new Institute, and we decided let's go walk up there,
and we weren't exactly sure how to get to it, but we were walking
on this trail and this should have been a sign to leave. I don't
know, why didn't leave? But I heard we heard somebody screaming like and
then just stops like I think the institutes that way, And this is in
the woods and at night, and as like I should have turned around,
but as we're walking, there's an owl right above us, and it was
like it kept following us. We'd move and then that owl would be above
us again. It was really strange. And then we found this institute that,
you know, it was like partially broken down and there was like fencing
around it, and then we're like hopping the fence and then I see headlights
coming up there. But this is like a walking path, so I still
don't know what if it was like a four wheel or what. And then
so we run and we kind of jump over this hillside and somebody gets out
and it's just shining a flashlight right where we were and then just peels out.
They was kind of strange to help me and then the whole you know
person but you know, looking back, maybe you should have called the police
if somebody's screaming like that because it doesn't seem normal. Oh shoot, okay,
sorry almost forgot the biggest story here. So this this actually happened.
So I'm forty now. This happened summer six or seven years ago, seven
I think seven, maybe maybe six. But you know, going, since
I an outdoor person, I go hiking camping a lot. And it was
me, my wife, my dog, and we're meeting some friends and we're
going to there's an area, there's an area Winatchie where there's like a town
that has a big tourist area and there's a lot of outdoor stuff out there,
camping, fishing, you name it. But um, we're going down
a road called Chuaba River Road and there's a lot of campsites on the way
down there, and eventually it turns into gravel. And once it turns into
gravel, a lot of people don't go for there. But if you keep
going down there, there's a lot of great, great spots that you won't
have to deal with people. And actually, if you go all the way
the end, there's an old ghost town called Trinity. But at the campsite
maybe before that, before the ghost town, it's small. It's just like
three spots right on the water. And so you know, we all drove
separate, different couples and all that, and it's a Friday night and you
know, we showed up. It's kind of a longer drive. Once you
get that ground of road, it really slows down your car, so it
kind of takes a bit. But we showed up. But you've got a
fire and you know, wait for everyone to come up. And we had
made food, hot dogs, campfire stuff, old stories. Had two three
beers. No one got like, you know, the most one drink was
maybe three beers at night. It was nothing, nothing crazy, but we
kind of sporadically set up our tents and my wife and I got close to
the water. At some point in the middle of the night, I shot
up. I just sat up really fast, and it's usually when I wake
up, it's kind of like a groggy, slow move, but I just
up and I remember it'd be like I have to leave the tent, and
then I was like, oh, I have to leave the tent to come
to the bathroom. But it felt in my mind it felt really urging.
And as I come up, like I noticed that my wife is also up,
and we didn't really say anything, and I unzipped my side of the
tent and she unzipped her side, and the dog just laid there. And
if you never met obviously to have never met my dog that I had a
Sailor, but Sailor was like a rescue dog that anything I did, that
dog would be on foot. That dog did not move, which I didn't
really think about till later, And it is kind of weird that if they're
thinking about it. But when I go out of the tent, it was
the whole everything around me was like the color was like pink orange, it
was like daylight. And I started walking. I felt like I couldn't walk,
like I was moving sideways all directions. At one point it felt like
I was like walking up an escalator. It was very strange. But you
would think, because this is the weird thing that's ever happened to me,
you think I'd like be freaking out, waking up everyone, like what is
what is going on? These like what is this light? Why? Why
is it? What's happening? And I'm all I remember, is I have
to go over to that bush and pea. So I'm like just focusing on
that. And I stopped noticing the colors because I was so focused on walking.
But I feel like it was still bright and I want pea. And
I went back in the tent and The last thing I remembered was I never
I don't remember being this tired in my life ever. And I can't remember
if I saw my wife was already laying but I can't remember if she came,
if I saw her at that point. But um, I wake up
and I'm laying in bed, and I'm really I'm like, wow, that's
the most vivid dream I've ever had, or you know, I can't because
I clearly it didn't happen. And I started telling my wife about this,
like weird dream or whatever, and she finished my sentence and she doesn't want
to talk about it much anymore. But the exact same thing, like she
saw the same colors, she felt the same thing, and it wasn't like
I told the whole story already. Then she says, you know, and
then she just repeated it was we were finishing each other, like back and
forth, back and forth. And also that night that I forgot to mention,
I don't know if this happened before after, but a deer stepped on
our tent and it was weird, like I could hear it, and I
was like, that's a deer. And one of my biggest fears camping in
a tent is like an animal stepping on my head. But it stepped on
the tent, and I just remember being like not scared. Yeah, I
just thought, oh, it's a I guess that's kind of a side note.
But this whole while that whole like thing happened, I didn't feel scared
at all when it was happening, her like even confused, other than I
felt like a singular like mission. I had to do that. That's all
I felt. And that entired. So it's just like and even the next
day after we talked about it, like, oh, let's get breakfast,
and you know, we're just making breakfast and you know, we're joining a
weekend. And then it was like I didn't even think it. I didn't
even realize how weird it was till like a year later, month later or
something like that. It was just it's it's weird. It's like, I,
I don't know. It weirds me out that I didn't think it was
weird at the time. So yeah, so that that was a big one.
And since and since that, I've been getting more and more well.
Someone asked me a question recently, like did I notice anything the next day
or do I feel different or anything that I was. No, no,
but I've been. The more I've been thinking about is actually, yeah,
I am a completely different person since that, and I've become a very open
spiritual person. I was never a person that would you know, I never
made fun of people, but once we go'm going to do yoga or meditation,
it become that's not for me kind of. But I mean since then,
I've been I've been into meditation. Really, I don't know, I've
turned it turned. It's weird. After that, it turned me into like
a really positive person as far as spiritual spirituality. And I'm just really open.
And I don't know if that has to be related to that or what,
but I just feel, actually I feel that experience opened me up to
be in more open essentially more more spirit twelve for a person. And I'm
still still not not sure what that means. I'm still like on a mission,
you know. I when I get sleep, prowsis and I still do.
I remember you know, people talking about you know, say Jesus name
you know or something like that, and that does work. And you know,
I used to be I used to consider myself seven years, eight years
ago, kind of an atheist but respect everyone. But and I'm not saying
that I that made me believe in God, but it made me really believe
a bit there's good and there's evil in this world. And even if even
if there is a God, or if there's nothing to do with saying that
name in that that situation, I don't know if that's it's because you believe
in it or because there really is there really is like a good and evil.
And I'm still trying to figure it out, like I said, But
so yeah, and I still I still deal with sleep provissis And actually it's
been it's been on a really big uptick in the last few months. And
actually so this just happened over the summer recently. But I had five nights
a sleep prowess out of seven, and that's a lot, like as an
adult, I mean not maybe not as much as a kid, but as
adult, that's a lot. And the last night that I had it though,
I kind of when I was camping and I got like shot up fast.
It was kind of like something like that, like an urgency, but
I got a really really bad feeling, something felt really wrong, and I
got up and I looked open my blind and looked out the window. I
don't know why, but I looked out the window, and our backyard is
there's no houses we have, so there's like some protected land in my back
So I got my backyard, which is smaller, but then the whole backyard
is like protected land. There's eleven acres and there's a creek in trail and
stuff like that. And I'm looking out there and I see this silent light,
that flashing beacon but there's no really like pattern to it, and it's
really bright. It would be like if someone was welding outside in the middle
of the night, you know. But I just like looking at this land.
I was like, what is this? And I was it was almost
mes brized by as you're looking at it, look at it. And my
wife, what are you looking at? Or what are you doing? And
there's a weird light out there that it's flickering every once in a while,
And she got up and looked and she saw it once and then it just
it didn't do it after that. And I don't know how long I was
looking at that light, but I kind of felt gay when she said,
what are you doing? It's kind of like I like snapped out of it
for a second. So like, since there's been an uptick on like sleep
proalysis and doing research is easier, I've been going on like a deep dive
trying to like figure out how to stop it so doesn't happen as much because
it's freaking I mean, even as adult, every time it puts me in
it freaks me out. And I found a video where some lady was talking
about how to induce sleep prowsis like, what, why would anyone want this?
But she was talking about astral projection and all that kind of stuff and
lucid dreaming, and I actually didn't know what lucid dreaming was, and then
I looked it up. Oh, well that's I remember that when I was
a kid having dreams where I knew I was dreaming, and I remember what
he's trying to do them again because it was really really cool. And then
since kind of getting in there, I've had a few sleep prolysis. But
I'm too she's saying in this video for projection, if you get the sleep
paralysis stage, you can talk your body into projecting. But every time it
happens, I still can't. I freaked myself out, so I don't know
if that's going to happen. But as far as lucid dreams, I am
interested in on that and I've been kind of trying to do that a little
bit. And it is weird. Once you decide that you want to have
a lucid dream and you put it in your mind and say, you know,
I'm going to remember my dreams, you'll start remembering your dreams. It's
strange because I'm one of those people I remember my dreams maybe once every three
weeks, and since I did that, it's been every night. I've been
remembering my dreams now. But I had a night where this is just two
weeks ago, and I was kind of, you know, my wife and
I were kind of having a little argument, but I was kind of stressed
out about it. But I slept on the couch and I am I got
a really bad slew prolysis, but I felt my whole body was really vibrating.
Freaked me out, and then kind of woke snapped out of it,
and then went back to bed and it happened again, even stronger, and
I felt I was dying. It was particularly bad, and I actually when
I finally woke myself up. We have a big what do I call it,
like an L shaped couch, And I know what time my head was
sleeping when I got up. When I like woke my head up, I
was sitting up on the end of the other couch just breathing so hard.
It was I still don't know how I got over there. I don't,
you know, it was strange. But anyways, but yeah, that's kind
of That's about it as far as the stuff I could remember right now and
kind of what I've been dealing with, well interesting stuff. Casey, now,
I mean to be having five nights at seven sleep process that is awfully
high. Yeah, yeah, it definitely feels like it. I mean,
I think my last sleep Provisies episode was back in I think my late my
late foot is now. During that time, you know, I was dealing
with a mat of stress, and I think there is definitely a correlation between
sleep prolysis and stress. But instead of thinking the stress is causing the prolysis,
I think it's the stress has induced something, you know, has put
you into a certain state which then allows you know, the sleep paralysis to
happen. And yeah, you're you're you're quite right. We are able to
we can be quite suggestible. When you know, when we were in bed
and we're relaxing and we can say to ourselves, you know what I do
it, I will remember my dreams when I wake up. And if you
say that twenty odd times, so it's then installed in your brain, in
your subconscious you will then remember clearly your dreams. And it's the same few
speaks of previous generations, and they used to do a thing where to wake
up in the morning, they would tap their head twenty times on the pillow
and say to yourself, wake up at a certain time. And if you
try this, you know, if and her listeners at the try lists,
if you if you repeat yourself, I will wake up at eight o'clock in
the morning. I will wake up. You know, keep repeating in your
head, and I guarantee it you will wake up at that time. We
about having to set your alarm clock. Yeah, well yeah, I didn't
know about that. The time thing that that totally makes sense. I mean,
it's it's so strange to thinking, like how how much we could really
choose when it comes to that, you know, yeah, that's wild.
And when you're saying that too, that you know, the sleep produs comes
when you know you're feeling down and stuff like that definitely lines up with a
lot of the time that I've I've felt it recently as an adult, and
I don't know, And then it depends on how where do you get I
don't know. Is there something that feeds off fear and that's a really good
when sounds stressed out? Is that? Is that a really good time?
And that's is that what causes it? I don't know. That's kind of
kind of down the rabbit hole on things, but it's just something that I
think about it every once in a while. Yeah, the same. So
I thought by this over the years, and I've had prices mirror of my
whole life. But as I've got older, the periods between the prices episodes
have kind of stretched out a little bit. But when I was younger,
I would definitely get them quite regular. But I've never been a stressed out
person, especially not when I was a kid, but I'd imagine the fear
was definitely there. But I think when I've got older and I've gone through
bouts of stress then that they have been the most strongest sleep prolysis. So
I think there is there is a connection, but I don't believe stress causes
it, but I believe it maybe makes it stronger maybe, you know,
I'm not quite sure. Yeah. Same when I was a kid, I
never like I was a pretty happy, go lucky kid, you know,
and so yeah, and it seems like as an adult it's always been around
stressful times. But yeah, it's still like people don't really know what it
is. So I mean it's I'm open to suggestions and you know, still
trying to figure it out, and you know, maybe maybe not even I'd
like to say, just not thinking about it, kind of like when you
said like sleeping like suggesting things, you know, So if you just don't
think about it, if it's out of your mind, or even tell yourself
like I will not have sleep prowessies, you know, twenty times. But
I'm not thinking about it when I'm stressed out. I'm out, Like I'm
stressed out. Oh I'm gonna have sleute prowlysis. You know. It always
surprises me. And then when I think about it the next day, Okay,
yeah, I guess I was kind of stressed out. So yeah,
I don't know. It just seems really random as far as that goes.
Yeah, I mean, our brains can be very complex. But yeah,
there's a lot of things you can do. And even if you have problems
sleeping, you know, there's this thing where if you lie still, completely
still for fifteen minutes, your body will fall to sleep. Yeah, totally,
Like you gotta like you can't. You gotta make sure not to let
your body, you know, because you're always going to be like, oh,
I'm itchy and this and that, you know, but yeah, that's
my wife. My wife says, stop moving because I'm constantly moving, turning
over onto my front, onto my back and all that. But you're probably
like me. You know, when you go to sleep, you're you're thinking
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you get your podcasts. Let's go back to Trinity. Now, Trinity the
campsite is that part of the North Cascades National Park. I don't think so.
It's I guess it would just be considered Wenatchee. It's actually it's off
the highway and through a town called Plain, So Trinity goes town is the
dad end road there, but it's um tuaa river road is kind of where
all the camping is. So that's the campground. And actually so the camp
grun I believe I was that it was could be Alpine Medals camp Ground,
Alpine Meadows pretty yep, and the yeah and the Buck Creek trail. Yeah,
yeah, I see you are right, that is yes, Okay.
So it's in a kind of valley, okay, and you camping up there
with your your wife and your your dog I've never met. Yeah, and
a few other couples. Yeah, okay, so there were still members with
you. Sorry, yeah, they're in separate tent um. Yeah, there
was two other couples, so there was six people plus my dog. Okay,
did you have a particular big tent? The tent that I was in,
it was just it was a three person but you know, might as
well be a two person. So yeah, so it was just a small
tent, you know, and everyone else had every other couple had their own
tents. Okay. And you woke up because you know, you needed to
go pee, and then you you opened the candidate the tent and you immediately
saw this light. Yes, yeah, And I mean it's it's so strange
to think that I wasn't like, whoa, what is this? You know,
like what's going on? I was just that was just part of I
don't know, it's almost I had that singular goal and that couldn't get in
my way. Okay, So everything was like a like a pink orange color,
yes, and as bright as daylight. And did the lights the pink
orange? Did it hurt your eyes at all when you first opened a tent?
No, No, not that I recall. That's a that's a good
question, though. I No, I don't remember my eyes hurting like it
was is blinding or or even you know, like with a whole adjusting,
you know, because you think that that fast of a color change would cause
for some adjusting, but I don't. I don't remember feeling like it hurt
my eyes. No, okay, And the sun wasn't on its way up
or anything like that. Definitely, no. You know, with when when
you're with trees and mountains and stuff like that, when the sun's coming up,
there'll always be like shadows of trees and kind of a gradual thing,
you know. And no, no, And it definitely wasn't that because when
when we got up in the morning and we were talking about it, it
was still it was still decently dark, not dark, but it was definitely
like early, you know, like six in the morning. So yeah,
it wasn't It couldn't have been the sun. And like you said, you
know you are you're in a valley and so you're not going to get the
very early son. It must have seemed a bit like a you know,
like a filter. Yeah, it's so weird. It just seemed like it
was something in the way of what I had to do. Nothing was processing
looking back, Yeah, like I could see something like that, but it
was just with the whole unable to walk correctly, and yeah, like feeling
like being on an escalator and that color. I really can't explain it,
and I haven't. I told a few people in hopes that maybe they got
some kind of explanation. I haven't really done anything. And how far did
you venture away from a tent? Probably twenty thirty feet really not that far,
and you don't think you're right for very long? No? No,
I well, I don't know, I would say no. But everything seemed
really off. So if I had just as far as far as I remember,
it feels like it was like a two minute orchel okay, other than
the light and you were walking a bit funny, well fell off about it
at the time when it was happening, That's the thing. It didn't feel
off. It felt like this was a normal thing. But as far as
like looking back, everything fell off. Just the thing that's so weird to
me is I felt I didn't feel like it was weird at the time,
like it just felt just a normal trip out of the tent to go pee.
But clearly it's not. And that's like something that I do think about
often, or maybe not often, but every once in a while, and
that why was that not weird? Why was I not bothered by that?
You know why my wife had the exact same experience. It's just, you
know, it just doesn't really line up. And does your wife remember when
you came back to the tent. We've compared notes on it because that was
something that I feel like, I remember her coming back into the tent and
she feels like me coming back in the tent. But looking back, I
don't know if it's if that was an assumption or if I mean, it
was seven years ago, so I don't I can't say for sure I remember
her, you know, laying down too. I just remember being the last
thing that I remember was thinking, I've never felt more tired in my life.
So yeah, I don't know. I should reask her that if she
remembers that. And does she remember leave in the tent at all? Yes,
Yeah, everything was like the exactly the same for her as far as
that. She said she got up really fast and she felt like she had
to go out of the tent to go pee. I don't remember hearing her
out when I went out. I actually, when I asked her later,
she told me, you know, like she told me which direction she want
and it was different than my direction. Okay, so you you left the
tent to go find a bush and then you returned. But as far as
you concerned, she was she was asleep, yeah, or coming back into
the tent also, yeah, either sleeping, I want to say, going
off instinct and just I feel but I can't be certain for this, but
I feel like she was coming in the same time, but like I can't
for sure. But then at the same time, I can't remember. That's
just what That's what feels right to me for some reason. But first of
all, you thought it was you know, you'd had a dream. Yeah,
I mean that's what I chalked it up to in the morning because it
was such a weird experience, But it actually didn't feel like a dream.
But that's how kind of I worded it. And that's kind of what I
was willing to go with in the morning when I started telling her, because
it was just it just seems so unbelievable both and then you know, and
then as but as she finished my sentence and she kept telling me and we
had the same experience, then you know, that kind of freaked us both
out. If it was just me and she didn't have that, probably that
story would have just ended there, because I would have just been like that
was really vivid memory that I'll probably think about every once in a while,
but I'll have to just say it was like a really vivid dream. But
the chances of both of you having a near enough identical dream is very remote.
Yeah. Yeah, And she as far as her and her experiences throughout
her life, she's that's the only thing that's ever happened to her weird.
She doesn't have weird dreams or you know, sleep problems. She's never dealt
with any of that, so she definitely not anything in her realm there.
Can you have fires up the camp fires? Yeah, at that time of
the year, we could have a fire. Yeah. So it's like depending
on the season, you know, they get a lot of her kind of
later in July usually they'll put a band, but it all depends on how
how dry it was that year. And do you remember what you had the
night before? Did you have like a like a barbecue fish? Yeah,
so we we barbecued night that that happened. Yeah, because I've been searching
too, you know, people having you know, like seeing the light while
out in the woods. It'd be nice to see like if someone's had the
same color, but just something like that, but then also the whole like
unable to walk. You know, I've kind of had a hard time finding
I found stories with similarities, but I'm having a hard time finding this story
where somebody's had something exactly like mine or pretty close to mine. So I
would love to like see or read about something else similar, you know,
and maybe if someone's still round, try to pick their brain and kind of
see what what they got out of it, you know, I mean Germany.
When you go camping and you need, you need a place to go,
you generally find that place and you keep you stick to that same place,
you know, because you know it's safe, it's you know, you're
away from prying eyes. You know you're not going to stumble on anyone.
So generally you stick to that place. But you both went two different directions,
my wife and I when we went to the bathroom, Yeah, slightly,
yeah, slightly different directions. I was heading closer to the water.
She was more like horizontal to the tent, and I was like kind of
horizontally like but veering closer to the water, so pretty close. I mean
maybe if I had to guess ten feet away from each other, So I
walked about twenty feet out and probably ten feet away from her, would be
my guess. Okay, and everyone else that you with on this trip,
did you mention it to anyone? Um? Okay, So that's something else
I've been kind of like thinking about, and I don't think we did.
And I actually one of my buddies who was there, it's probably probably my
best friend. I just recently a few months ago, brought this up to
him and he's like, you never told me this. I was like,
what, how would I never tell you? Because I don't know. I
tracked this up to the weirdest I'd explained thing that's ever happened to me.
I don't know how I never mentioned this wo and you were there. I
felt kind of weird because I was telling them that, you know, I
was like, God, but I was like, I wonder if he doesn't
believe me now because it's such a weird, weird thing to say. Oh,
by the way, when you were camping with me, this happened and
I never told you. But I didn't tell him and the other couple.
I'm not sure, but I've told people since, you know, try to
pick people's brains. What do you think but yeah, that's really weird.
I didn't you think during breakfast I would just be like, Hey, did
anyone you guys have any weird thing happen? But I don't know, Like
I don't want to speculate too much, but it's kind of all you can
do sometimes and stuff like this. And I've definitely heard people say that they've
had like saw lights or saw had a really weird experience and they almost felt
like they couldn't or they didn't think to tell people, or there's just all
these like weird reasons why they didn't give out the information and all that,
and or like they had a memory that they remember like a year later.
You know, it's kind of it's almost like I revered it immediately. I
didn't think to tell anyone until way after the fact. Yeah, because it
would have been interesting if anyone else heard anything, or you know, even
had a dream or exited the tent at some point during the night. Yeah.
And also I'm not one of those people that I've kind of gotten over
the fact. I don't I don't care. I'm a respectable person, but
I don't I don't care what people if they believe me or not. Kind
of a you know stuff. So I wouldn't be I'm not going to tell
somebody this because I think are going to think I'm crazy, you know.
I mean obviously would just tell a random person I think I'm crazy. My
friends, you know, I have no problem just telling them. I'm pretty
open about that kind of stuff. So, and this campsite, is it
a place you've been before? Ye oh yeah. I've camped out off that
river quite a few times. But as far as that's facos, I've probably
been there four, probably four or five times, okay, when you're an
adult, when you're a kid adult, Yeah, yeah, Ever since early
twenties to mid thirties, I haven't been back there since that happened. And
not because I'm super against it. It just hasn't worked out. And how
many nice did you spend there on that occasion? Two nights? Two nights,
yeah, Friday, Saturday to night. Yeah, left Sunday morning.
And your partner doesn't really really wanna well, doesn't really talk about it much.
Yeah, And it's not like she hates talking about it, she's just
kind of like it doesn't go anywhere. She feels. It's just, you
know, you talk about it and then there's it doesn't really feel like there's
new information, or she's not really interested in She's okay with not knowing.
I'm very curious, just a curious general in person, and the fact that
this happened to me makes me even more curious. So, you know,
I've been with that whole spiritual stuff I was telling mentioning earlier. Kind of
just opened my eyes to what else is out there too. So you know,
I never really listened to UFO or paranormal podcasts or you know stories.
I mean when I was younger. I mean, I thought it was kind
of interesting, but I didn't not like I do now. I'm looking for
cases and similar stories and trying to connect dots and all that. So when
you're saying about the spiritual side of it, it didn't seem that, you
know, you went to the woods, you know, you smelt that lovely
fresh air and the wildlife and all of a sudden you're one with nature.
Does seem that something happened, But then again, you know, these a
lot of these woods and forest areas, the very old, they contain certain
energies and however you want to look at it, that seemed to influence people
in many spiritual ways. Yeah. So yeah, we don't like to speculate
too much on this show. You know, we never really point to any
particular agenda or anything like that. When people have experiences and they're a bit
odd and something seems off, you know, they're not not the norm,
just try and look at it and see if we can pull out anything anything
that is that is odd. But definitely, you know, you definitely experience
something, you know, in trinity. We're not quite sure what. Yeah,
and for whatever, feel I feel different since it happened. I mean
maybe the spiritual moment because nature and so beauty and that's like something that I've
I've always felt drawn to nature and does feelings of you know, being by
water and all that. Let's go back to your spiders that you used to
see when you're a kid. Yeah, okay, Now I had a guest
on and she was a medium and she does cleanse in and she would cleanse
something that she's more of a specialist into. And they're called astral spiders,
Okay, spiders from you know, from the in between or or the other
side, you know, whatever you look at it. So it's just interesting.
You were saying about the spiders, and you would say they would they
would be different sizes and in different numbers. Yeah, so a few times
it was just jumbo ones. But for the most part, I mean,
I guess still kind of big for spiders, maybe twice the size of like
a household spider, and a lot of them. And you know, and
I haven't found anyone talking about seeing lots of little ones. Mostly just people
talking about singular large spiders. Do they ever really bov when I was a
kid? Oh yeah, well, oh as far as like physically, no,
I always as even as a kid, I was I don't know why
I'm overthinking this. These have to be fake because this doesn't happen. I
remember, this doesn't happen, and you know, looking back, I don't
they can't be real. But there was something in my head where I was
seeing them as real other than freaking me out, you know, nothing,
nothing happened with them, but they don't. You know, they don't really
both you now, no, and I haven't had that as an adult.
That was that probably stopped when I was maybe ten or something like that was
the latest. So ten years old, okay, And when you're in when
you were five, when you're in preschool and you said your mother actually took
you out of the school. Yeah, okay, so like my mom's had
I think she's had some weird stuff too, and I know my aunts i've
kind of talked about having weird stuff as far as unexplained or almost like psychic
things. When I started asking my mom because I was trying to get a
timeline on this, you know, because I'm trying to like piece together some
things from my childhood, and it was kind of like she started to kind
of tell me information and then she kind of like clammed up. And then
I think she's in the matter of if you don't know, it's better than
knowing. But I'm more even if it's incredibly traumatic information because I feel like
there's something there and you know, and just having being able to close that
as an forty year old adult, I would like to just close that.
But she kind of clammed up. She told me that I said something to
her the teacher said something that didn't make sense, but she said that also
around the time I said something to her that a five year old should not
know what that you know what it is, and then but she wouldn't tell
me. So I who knows. I mean, it could have been something
weird, you know, I don't, I have no idea, but it
was just it felt really feeling like going in a bubble, like it felt
very real, felt like a real experience as a kid. And came back
at it too. It feels like that was real. Okay, all right,
that's unusual. And you've tried asking recently, Yeah, well, you
know, and actually I was talking to my sister about it. She has
told me that she also had some kind of experience where we were when we
were camping, and something to do with their inner tubing, and she felt
she left her body. I don't know. I have heard and I don't
you mentioned earlier speculating all that, but I've heard about people talking about certain
encounters or experiences running through the family. You know. I feel like my
mom has some stuff she can't explain that she doesn't want to go dig into,
so I know she won't kind of reveal things to me. But right,
what about your auntsie? Yeah, this was at firsthand, this is
my sister. But because when we were having this conversation, I told her
about, you know, that bubble, and then she told me about her
inner tube experience. She's said that our aunts were together my mom, Mom
says years and they're all talking and they were just saying that they've had just
weird psychic things and things that they knew to be true, you know.
And I don't want to share I guess the stories or like my sister's story
as far as that go, because it's kind of hers to tell. But
there's some kind of personal stories of just knowing the outcome or knowing. Actually
for me, there's been times when I'm really, do not go over there,
or you know, do not go to this, get off the next
exit, you know, and sometimes it's it's I mean that's not often,
but you know, like when I hear that voice, I always listen to
it. So and actually this is pretty weird. But I took my grandkid
to a monster truck show and I had a really really bad idea, like
or really bad feeling about it, and I just kept feeling and feeling and
actually turned around and we didn't go. He was, you know, heartbroken,
but kid died like a loose part at that monster truck show shot out
into the crowd and the kid died. And it's just I don't know It's
almost like what if we were sitting right there. So you know, I
always say, you know, if you have this feeling, you know,
you quit a gut feelings, And yeah, I always say, if you
have this feeling, listen to it. Like you said, you know,
you had this weird feeling before you went to this monster truck show which didn't
go and then this, you know, this tragedy happened, and yeah,
you could have been sitting right in that area and hit by this flying shrapnel.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. And you know you hear stories of people
when they had pretty bad stuff happened to If a lot of these people say
that they had a really bad feeling and they decided not to listen to that
exactly, it's like final destination stuff, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah,
for sure. Yes, it's all listeners out there. If you have this
feeling, listen to it might just save your life. That's wonderful, Casey,
interesting stuff. Yeah, thanks for chatting with me. Yeah, no
problem, Yeah, thank you for thank you for having me. I had
had a really good time and it is yeah, really nice. Yeah.
I really like your podcast and I think I love that you give people,
you know, a platform to talk on because sometimes, you know, you
get when you get someone that has some experiences and they got no one to
talk to. Sometimes it's just just saying it to somebody that does a lot,
you know. So I do appreciate that it's important if people share these
accounts, because you would never hear them anyway. You know, we wouldn't
hear these accounts. And every time I released an episode, I'll get a
ton of emails from people saying I experienced that well, I was there,
or I know exactly what that individual's going through, And I guarantee I'll get
exactly the same with yours. Yeah, and if anyone, if anyone does
have like a similar, really similar experience with that, with that camp and
were with the light and the movement, you know, that's wonderful. Casey
when oh you missed out the you had downy potential witch encounter. Yeah,
and you know what I was actually gonna say, I totally forgot. I
don't know if you want to like edit it in or what, but I
could I could tell you that story. Yeah, I'm kind of kicking myself.
I haven't said this story out loud. You're gonna have to bear with,
Okay, So this happened well, probably four years five years ago,
and I guess I'll kind of started like the beginning this this will all kind
of like tie in. But U so, I as a hobby. I
collect vinyl records and sometimes I sell vinyl records and trade them and all that
and just listen. I listened to records all the time. But I was
selling some records on a website called discogs, and it's a good place to
yeah, to buy records. It's all or just like look up any information
about artists and music and all of that. It's all there. It's a
great site. Somebody was asking me about a record I was selling, and
you know, I responded, and if any person when I'm selling stuff on
there, it seems like they're really really interested and would enjoy it more than
me. For a reason, I'll always, even if they don't ask for
it, give them a good deal or pay for shipping or something, you
know something, because I'm a fan of them myself, and I'd rather have
someone else to be happy than trying to make as much money as possible.
So this person, they sent it to them. And fast forward a few
weeks later and I open my Instagram and I get like a tag and it
said thanks for the record, and they took a picture of the record and
they tagged me in it, and I thought that was weird. That's never
happened. But I was like, well, I used my address and they
probably just looked up my name and then saw that Instagram. And it's still
a little weird, but I guess I could see that. You know,
if you really want to find someone, it's probably not that hard. And
this was a a female and she was if I had to guess, like
this happened, knew me when I was thirty six or thirty five, and
I would say she was probably maybe a few years younger, so kind of
run that age. And I remember thinking, like, I'm married and my
wife doesn't have anything to worry about, but I don't know. This person's
story is kind of weird, and you know, I'm not going to really
respond. But she sent me a message and but about music, and it
was something I was really interested in, so I responded and then we kind
of had some conversations about music for a while, and you know, but
in the back of my mind, I'm not doing anything bad, but it
just felt a little trying to explain, like, oh, I just sold
this record and they randomly looked me up and found me. It just it
would sound kind weird, and so you know, I just slowly kind of
like responded a little less and less and so anyways, that so that's kind
of the premise of the beginning. But so the job I was working at
that time was it was another park and I was with another co worker,
I'll call him Billy, And summertime we one of the parks that we had,
it's like a it was a golf course that they turned into a park
like open space, and so it was pretty new to us, and so
we're still trying to figure things out and it was large. So how we
get around is we had like a little um it's called the Gator, but
it's a little it's basically like an off roading golf cart. We're kind of
getting eyes on the trail and he was driving and I was in the passenger.
And in the summertime, I used to get those really big jugs of
like two gallons things of water with the handle on top, and I refill
it throughout the week and then i'd toss it and then I get another one
for the next week, you know that way. It was just kind of
reason and I put in like, um, some kind of like well they're
called meo. But it was like a vitamin water kind of a thing.
So but it gave it color. Was it turned the water like a not
red because there was so much there's two gallons of water, but it was
it was definitely noticeable, very pink. So we're on this little golf cart
checking out the peak there and there's only one trail to get there, and
we got to go the same way back, and so we went up to
the top of the peak and then by the and then one minute later we're
back on the trail and I noticed my water bottle. So the time difference
is, you know, one one minute, right, and it's early in
the morning, nobody's there, and I see my water bottle and the color
looks different. And he and the guy I was with, he was,
this is weird. How what you know? It doesn't sound that weird.
I maybe I'm not explaining it well, but um, the color was completely
different. It was like a like a white almost like creamy. It looked
different. There was like a ton of bubbles in it, little to tiny
bubbles, and but it didn't have bubbles. It was just its just the
color was really off. And he's like, I was like, this is
my water bottle. And I was like, yeah, there's the handle.
It looks just like this is the kind that I buy and I throw away.
We would have saw it on the way. This is my water bottle.
But what happened to the color? And I'm just weirding myself out?
It somehow changed, I don't know, but we were both really weirded out
by this. I took a sip of the water, which the few people
I've told this and my work, because you know, the guy that I
was working with was telling everyone too. Once they hear that part, they're
out. They can't listen to any more of the story. They think that's
really weird. And the only thing they think is weird that is I drank
the water, had to bend his and the color change. But they're like,
no, it's just weird that you drank it. That's clearly not your
water bottle. But it was I know for a fact. And so this
is the part that I haven't pulled anyone. And when I took a sip
of that water, for some reason, and I haven't talked to that person
I was telling you about in the records for months since. Then her face
flashed through my head and if I got a message that just said which and
I don't even I don't think about witches or anything like that. And I
was what was that message? What is this weird color water? It really
confused me, and I was like, really thinking about it, you know
what, what I gotta lose. I'm just gonna just gonna ask her bluntly,
hey, are you a witch? So I said that and she I'm
trying to remember the answer. It was something along the lines of yes,
but I'm not practicing. Maybe one day I'll tell you what I mean.
And you know, you think that she would be like, why would you
ask me that? But never asked anything new to fallow up And that was
the last time we talked. Then I talked to that person. So anyways,
that's to me, it's a really weird story. And I said,
I never said that out loud, so I don't know how that came across,
but it was weird to me. It's something I've heard a few times.
I see. So it seems that you know you've got the attention of
someone which was evidently practicing, and they don't always necessarily have to have access
to say like hair or clothing or an ice majory. If it was this
individual that more unlighted actually very definitely was practicing and she was certainly no novice.
So let's just say you like, yeah, because that image in my
head of her face and that that world, which is like not even in
my vocabulary. Well, I mean I obviously in other words, which this
and which that? You know, Oh my god, you know it doesn't
come up. But yeah, I don't know. But then and I try
to look up to that meo water stuff. Can this change color over time?
And I couldn't really find anything like the pointed to that. And even
if it was, I mean, we're talking one minute, two minutes max,
I'm sitting there. Yeah, I mean, I've heard stories, especially
in Southeast Asia, and my wife has told me stories about this where this
guy will be happily married and for some reason, the attention he gets from
this this of a female that he doesn't know, he doesn't can blah blah
blah. The next thing, he leaves his wife and he boozing with this
ever woman and you know, it's all black magic is exactly what it is.
So I think that the reason why it didn't carry on is because you
kind of you said to her, and that obviously scattered off was like,
well he already knows now, So to be honest, if that and carried
on, that probably could have got a lot worse. Yeah, strange,
Yeah, and I always head in the back of my mind something fell off
with it, you know, And it was so weird that she didn't say
why would you say that if someone's asked me, hey, are you a
witch or a warlock or whatever? You know, like what even if I
was, why would you ask that? So yeah, yeah, I said,
yeah, I've I've read Harry Potter. I love it, but no,
I'm not a witch. But yeah, you've got to be careful because
if someone focuses in on you, you know, you don't know how far
they can go, and you, you personally, won't know what's going on.
You'll think it's all completely normal. But yeah, there's a you know,
no offense to anyone out there that is practicing and dabbling in the occult,
But you've got to be You've got to have your guard up sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, get and you know, and I heard like stories of
people like eating eating things, you know that somebody was trying to I guess
charm is that the word, and you know it had to effect on them.
And yeah, I drank some of it, you know, but I
was I didn't like drink the whole thing. And when I when everyone heard
that, I drank this water bottle like it's clearly not yours and that is
disgusting. So that's all all that anyone focused on on that. But yeah,
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know what would have been a
little different if I drank the whole thing. Who knows, Well, yeah
you could well spell bound, you know, you could have been spell bound
hext whatever, So yeah, you never know how far it could have gone,
you know, not only think about this is kind of a little side
on that. But the music we were talking about was very obscure, and
some of the stuff that she was mentioning or bands is pretty obscure stuff that
I that I'm really into that you don't hear people talking about. So somebody
also knowledgeable on something pretty obscure in the music world is pretty inviting to have
a conversation. So it's also like now you say, oh that, it
makes me think, how did that person know? Yeah, so kind of
weird. I sent a package. They bought a record, and I sent
a package, so I knew where they were and was it local? No,
it was uh no, it was totally different states far, you know,
like fifteen hours away from me. So there you go. Then they
did have contact with you, so that you would have sent the package,
so you would have handled this package. Thanks for the record. You know,
they tagged me on Instagram and that's why it's weird. But it's also
you could find people easily, so they probably saw my name because I sent
the package, and you know, it was kind of like, hey,
thanks for the package. Which, yeah, they would have had something which
I would have had contact with you, so they had the package. You
probably licked the stamp. You probably dropped a bit of hair and put in
the vinyl in the in the package, so you know, there you go.
Yeah, and you know what I do like when I send stuff off
a lot of times I'll do like a little it's kind of weird side hobby,
but I collect old national geographics from like fifties and sixties and cut them
out and then make like little mini collashes on you know, just art,
but also I'll send that on boxes just to make it kind of fun,
you know, like a you know, an elephant with guy jumping through a
hula hoop or something. Yeah, so it's just kind of work fun things.
So a little more time is spent on putting stuff together than I think
the average good stuff. I don't think I actually I have any more vinyl
left. I know we've got some Beatles LPs like Rubber Soul and the White
Album and all that. I think with the Beatles albums were very few of
them are in mint condition because they were just there are records that were just
overplayed, played, played, played during that time. Yeah, with older
record players with the needles are harsher and then son writes their name, then
they borrow it and yeah. Yeah, but there's nothing like vinyl is there.
You know, there's something completely lost now with the sound. You know,
when you used to pop a track on, you know, and it
used to skip and it's good times. The sound I think it was different.
I think it was just I think it was better then absolutely, And
in the past I've never been into jazz until like the last few years and
I've been noticing like how great jazz in particular sounds on vinyl. Absolutely,
yeah, I like a bit of jazz good stuff. See. Yeah,
thanks. Yeah, you know, I don't really talk in front of people,
even though it's just me and you. There's something about, you know,
knowing it's giving me on a podcast that kind of maybe a little a
little flustered at times, but you do forget about that. You just you
just think like you just you're just telling me. But also you know,
you gotta understand is that listen to this show like yourself like minded? Yeah,
and you know, just just hearing other people going through some unexplained things,
you know, and then having a platform where you can tell your experience,
you know, I mean it just it feels better. And a lot
of times you're not going to get the answers. You might get like a
little hints here and there, but just just hearing other people knowing that there's
some un explained stuff out there, and it's almost like therapy, you know,
just kind of saying it out loud. Casey, I really appreciate you
coming on and sharing that for our listeners. Yeah, thank you, it's
been great. Have a good one. Been great talking to you. You
enjoy the rest of your day, all right, and we will talk soon.
Okay, sounds good. Thank you, Casey, by for now.
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