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about the Challenge as usually Brian sitting over in Germantown Hills Big Uncle sweete uh.
People are saying the feed cutout in the chat room, but away because
you started the recording. Yeah. I think we've learned just now that once
you stop recording, the listeners can't hear it. I don't know if that's
true, but whatever, Hey, it's him. Then in Minnesota we have
in the Land of ten Thousand Lakes. That's exactly what I thought. Carlin
the other CT And sadly Zach is not with us, he should say,
should I have phrased it? Sadly Zach is no longer with us in a
really weird way. Yeah, that's audience in Vegas. Yeah, apparently he's
right. He's on his way back from the Mormon is partying in Vegas.
Yeah, and his girlfriend Allison told us in the chat room he went to
visit another girl. Yeah. The only reason I gave it to him is
because they only became official the day before we did the recording last week.
Oh is there eight days official? So really this is probably a trip plan.
This was a trip plan. Prior to that, because Zach did tell
us a while ago that he couldn't do tonight. I don't pay attention to
what zaccess. So if you get a new girlfriend and you're like, hey,
I have a horsh trip plans. He did watch him on me Snapchat
or whatever go to this Mormon orgy for like four days. So I guess
Zach is at meaning to become the new most interesting man in the world for
DOS beer, which is necessarily He could just turn the bottle and be like,
stay. What the fuck did he say? Stay? Stay something my
friends, Stay thirsty my friends. That's what it was. He can just
introduce the non alcoholic version of Dosekis also says it's not worry that she has
a PI following his every move in Vegas. Oh yeah, t him.
He won't even drink soda. I feel like the the even the non alcoholic
version of beer is still not allowed in the Mormon Church. Is that true?
I have no idea I would assume, so, I mean they don't
if they don't like you drink soda. He doesn't drink soda, but he
drinks one of those things that you can't drink in the Mormon church because I
asked him about caffeine. He said he would drink caffeine, although he only
drinks they can drink soda, he just doesn't. All right, Yeah,
I think that there is like super Mormons who don't do any of that ship.
But I think most of them are pretty I grew up a round of
them, Oh, a lot of them, Yeah, really hardcore Mormons,
because I grew up in uh, Northeast Nevada for quite a few years,
which is less than three hours from Salt Lake City. People back in the
way, back in the day, huh, were you buy the Bunny Ranch?
The Bunny Ranch? Yeah, the brothel in Nevada? Oh no,
I think that's closer to Vegas. There's a lot of Nevada, isn't it.
It's legal in certain counties. All Right, I'm heading out. Allison
is prefirmed. You cannot drink non alcoholic beer. Thank you for the confirmation,
Allison. Why not? Though? Why not? It's not beer?
You can't just drink beer flavored? Could you eat beer flavored candy? Who
would want to do? Though? I don't know? Beer taste good sometimes?
What about beer boiled brats stuff like that? That's a good question rum
cake if they're alcoholic in it, even if it's cooked and like burns off
the actual alcohol park, Yeah, does it? So many questions that when
you start peeling back the layers of religion, none of them makes sense at
all. It says, if it's cooked, I mean, I guess technically
beer is cooked. Yeah, it is. Really I don't see a different
like a non alcoholic beer versus like carbonated flavored water, Like what's the difference?
Yeah, but she says that if it's cooked, it's fine. Technically
beer is cooked in the process of making beer. Well, yeah, because
it's it's the lack of alcohol, right that makes it Okay. No,
but just regular beer is cooked. No, I'm still stuck on wine.
Non alcoholic beer would not be allowed. I can't. I can't move past
it. I'm stuck because stuck. The LDS church is odd like that.
So many needs to make a spin off the same thing. Everything's exactly the
same, except they can drink no colored beer. Alison, you have to
be our resident Mormons and Zach's not here, Alison, write a letter and
demand demand non alcoholic beer be allowed. Hey, everybody had everydow challenge pot
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No, apparently I'm Mormon now I don't drink beer, which is not true.
You saw me drink like three or four of them ship based No,
it didn't. Well, if we got all fucked up, not true.
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we heard about All Stars four, no type it in the thing I want
to hear about it. Uh. This shirt is available for eight dollars from
Walmart. Go give the Walton family some more money. Oh yeah, they
go. That's what we all need to do. Season thirty nine is airing
before All Stars. I think we kind of knew that. Yeah, they're
doing that with a lot. There are a lot of networks that are doing
that, but are pulling old like other shows or other seasons, And for
I don't know, it's it's odd. It's weird whenever they shelf a season
or a movie or something. It never makes sense to me. But I
know it happens more than you'd think. Yeah, but just happened with that
girl. I don't know. Maybe they're is some sort of inappropriate something or
another that went on during the show that they're having issues with. Yea,
Yeah, Jay says, why are we seeing Pauli's returning before cars? Yeah,
we should have never seen Pauli's return for two and a half episode stuff.
It could have been worse. That's true, all right, Hey,
tib Yeah, get into Thursday's episode. Sure, This one's episode number five,
guys called Operation hat Trick, and we started off as we always do.
Back at the house, Desi and Chris come in. They're celebrating that
they both won their respective eliminations and Alyssa s got kicked off her team Desi
took her spot. So Alyssa is talking about how she's a little nervous about
switching teams, but luckily she does have some big brother allies on her new
team. Right after this, Chris starts fighting people like Monty and Tyler in
the kitchen there. This seemed out of nowhere. Why the fuck is he
fighting these guys because they voted just trying it well, yeah, but you
gotta vote for somebody, Yeah, I know, but it uh fucking Johnny
was the one who was like, this whole thing was Chris's idea, which
is what then spurred them to vote Chris in. Yeah, and so he's
just like really fucking assholes. Yeah, And it's one of those things we've
seen other people get all shitty, like we'll talk about Dusty getting mad at
somebody who didn't even vote for Yeah, people get real pissy when they get
voted in. I mean understandably, So it's always happened that way. You
get voted in and everyone gets mad. But yeah, it was it was
strange a little odd that Chris called the two of him out. Also,
I didn't realize how big Monty was. Yeah, looks bigger than Fassi.
He's got the short man face we've talked about on this show. His face
is misleading. Yeah, like so I can see it's his face is misleading.
He does not look like a tall guy in the face, and then
you see his body is very tall. It was like fucking Kevin Hark.
Turns out he's the rock. What's really funny about that is totally off season.
Like six months ago, I was somewhere and saw some guy sitting down
and thought, huh, he looks really tall. He has tall guy face.
Oh my god, I'm Tim. He stood up and he was like
five foot two. Yeah. See, it goes both directions. It goes
to both directions in my head, and I am I am Tim. Yep.
Scary, isn't it scary? Oh? Man, I've had my whole
life to deal with it. Yeah. That must have just hit you like
a ton of bricks. Brutal. Just made me laugh. Also, I
think Chris was kind of pissed that, Yes, I'm still talking about the
show, sorry, Scott saying that Josh should be ten feet tall, has
a little chromagnet face going on, the biggest chin, He's like from a
different era of man. Goes r. Well, they didn't me. That's
fine. I think Chris is mad because Also, everybody seems like they just
moved right away from getting make sure vets are going in. Yeah, that
happened real fast. We're going to talk about that on this episode too,
because I'm kind ofssed off. All right, And so we see West.
This is where he kind of starts his tirade. He calls out Monty and
Tyler because they were the ones that told him to vote Cassidy. So West
ended up voting Cassidy and he was the only one to do so. Now
there were two people who was there because she had two votes. I don't
know who the other person was, but Wes was one of them. Yeah.
Well, he's kind of pissed because he feels like his team kind of
set him up to take a fall here, which I think he's probably right.
So he's a little pissed. But Michaela comes in. She kind of
smooths things over and makes everything all gopathetic. Is it just Mars Michaela fucking
kicking ass these last couple episodes. There's something about her. I don't like
it. I don't know what it is. Really, Yeah, I feel
the exact opposite way. I really like I don't mind her. I've liked
her more than the last few episodes. I just there's something. There's something
about her, and I don't know what it is. Yeah, I really
like her. Yeah, we'll get into why a little bit later this episode.
Yeah, but yeah, it was it. I found it interesting because
Cassidy had two votes. I'm pretty sure she had two votes. I found
it interesting that she immediately was like one hundred percent for Wes. Yeah,
I'm gonna get they're trying to get the vets out and he's a vet and
all that sort of thing. But it was still a little like, oh,
all right, Yeah, the secret vote is really fucking with people's heads
in this house, and it's awesome. I like seeing that. We get
Corey and Cassidy there in the kitchen talking. This is where Cassidy shares that
her sister passed away from a drug overdose. Yeah, I guess emotions.
I don't need this stuff waiting for that. Then West jumps in, takes
off all his clothes, jumps in the pool. I heard that this was
from much much earlier in the season. Did you guys read this really?
Yeah, they like spliced it in here, but this I guess happened a
couple of weeks ago. Interesting. I just found it strange that Wes throws
out that he he has to pull the I have to be the funny guy,
getting to be entertaining. Dude, I don't. You've never been the
person. So where's this? Like, how are you gonna do this?
That's not who you are. I think what he was trying to say is
I want to not be a threat. I think that's where he was going
with it. But last time we tried to not be a threat and do
that kind of thing. He kept saying that he was going to be not
a fly in a while. He kept he was saying that he was going
to be the like I can't remember what he was he was talking. He
was saying an animal, and I can't remember what the animal is. Yeah,
he's had a lot of these weird social strategy none of them ever work.
Yeah, Emily says it was from night one. It was a bet
with Bananas. That would make sense because Bananas was super excited about it.
Right for the West fans of the house. Though, I rewatched this episode
on Paramount Plus so I could take my notes and his butt is not blurred
out. If you want to see West's ass sign up for Paramount Plus.
Apparently Tim could not wait. I heard Disei's ass is gonna be on it
tomorrow, so I have someone to rewatch this episode to see Desi's ass.
See Carlin, if only you would get on the discard, you could you
could hear us talk about Desi's ass. Oh sorry, I'm sorry, we
forgive me. Yeah, I guess they did have all the asses blurred out,
you know spoiler alert food. The next episode they didn't have all the
asses blurred out in the thanks, So I wonder if they just don't blur
them on there. Interesting? Yeah, all right, and with that we're
onto the challenge. I was mad. I really like this challenge. It's
sort of like a mini final, which I'm into. It's called Unboxed.
There's boxes each are proportional to the to the person's weight, so every box
is like personalized. The person has to carry it, and there's various stations
with puzzles. You can do the puzzle in the box. Once you complete
it, you keep going. The catch here is that if you start a
puzzle, you have to finish it, but you don't have to start it.
You can just run right on through it. And immediately West says that's
what they should do, and this is what his strategy was on fresh meat.
If you guys remember that good strategy. I mean it worked really well
round me. Yeah, if if they can all handle the weight, it's
a good one to go. Like that was the thing when they when they
had it in the previews, like, oh, I've got this strategy and
I need my whole team to go with it. Say oh the moment they
said the game, I know what this is. You know exactly what he's
doing. This is a very West move. Yes, not surprised at all
that he said it. I do like that they were wired like if you
start a puzzle, you must finish it. It makes me wonder because this
is the second time we've seen that in this game, and it makes me
wonder if it's something that they are going to start continuing going forward, Like
if you start a puzzle, you can't time out on it, you have
to finish it. Yeah. I kind of like that if if the puzzle
is optional, Yeah, I kind of like that. It's the same with
this, Like you know, in this elimination we just saw with the wheel
strategy, it's like there's different strategies. I kind of like that. Yeah,
but this is the second time where Michaela impressed me this episode. Did
you guys catch that she was the first one with her box at the station,
she set it down on her head. She set her box down,
ran backwards and grabbed Alyssa's box and carry that one too. Yeah that was
impressive. Yeah, she's crazy. I was really just very very impressed by
all that. Green passes Blue, Blue stop to do a puzzle to eliminate
one more box. Green past them, and that was kind of all she
wrote. Blue never recover. They stayed close behind Green, but Green was
ahead the rest of the time and Green just wins it. Yeah, solid
strategy by Wes. Yeah, all right, we're back at the house cha.
Wes is trying to stir up some chaos. He's trying to keep the
Vets safe, so he's trying to think of names that will work for everyone
but who aren't Vets. And he talks about this strategy to Bananas and Dusty,
who, of course, Dusty refuses to be more than a few inches
from Bananas. Their strategy is to turn this into a survivor versus Big Brother
game. To get strategy yeah, and it works better than any of us
could have ever imagined. I think. Yeah, all right, well let's
say weren't no nominations, So MICHAELA opens up this nomination around her big pitch
at the beginning is basically just saying, Hey, as long as it's not
two survivors, I don't really care. God damn it. This is where
I get pissed off. But all the stupid rookies, Yeah, why because
they still they still have all the numbers. They could West starts like throwing
shit out and they could just be like, uh no Banana's and Tory again.
Yeah, they totally could have done that. So why why do they
even remotely deviate from that plan whatsoever? But why didn't they? What do
you guys think? I mean, it kind of makes me feel like they
have now been since the last time they threw them in. They've now been
in the house another what probably week in actuality probably another week, so they've
started working on those relationships a little bit more. There's always the possibility that
they do feel like, Okay, well, we do need to keep Wess
around a little bit longer, because he does seem to have some nohow in
this game and we want his number on our side, and I don't know,
it might be some of that, but yeah, it was. It
was strange that the like the rookies did so well at the beginning of this
and then do you think jo the almate freak out freaked everybody out about a
stalemate? Now they're just really not wanted to do. That was just with
with Josh's team. I mean, I'm sure that everybody else knows that there's
the possibility of a stalemate happening. But if Wes is the only Vet on
the Green team, nah, just I'll vote them. Yeah, that's what
they've been doing so far. Yeah. Well, and Wes is also not
dumb enough to force a stalemate and potentially go in because he doesn't want Johnny
to go in, like that's that's not his game. Yeah all right,
Well, Tyler and Monty disagree with michaela right away and just say they want
to stick with Chris, and then West says Cassidy and that was kind of
it. Nobody ever really moved on from those names. That just is kind
of how that worked out. So stupid. Yeah, they didn't show as
much of this nomination procedure, which is kind of a bummer. But I
do think Michaela shot herself in the foot. She was talking all about saying
Survivor strong and everything, and I think during this with the non Survivor players
at the team, they're like, well, wait a minute, if you're
only looking out for Survivor, yeah, then I should break up Survivor.
I think she'd kind of. I think her strategy was maybe not super great
there. Yeah, it's I agree with that. It's one of those like
you can you need to kind of play your team versus and then have your
like Survivor family or team kind of on the down low, not out in
front. Yep. So she misplayed that a little bit. Yeah, all
right, well that's it, guys. Hey we get a club night.
It was very unenergetic on this show anymore. I agree, But I think
this is the first one we've seen right in this season. Maybe I'm taking
notes half the time and watching it while doing other things the other So this
one, the big controversy was the bachelor party thing or bachelor what is this
where they're trying to get the men over there. There are many many single
people in this season, and so the girls decided that the guys were going
to be bachelor esque and give them three reasons why they should be the most
eligible bachelor in the house. Yeah, and it looks like it was regardless
of whether they were single or not, because I'm pretty sure Chris is married
because he was wearing a wedding ring at one point in time, and Wes
is definitely married. Yeah. Yeah, did you guys catch what Fessi's pitch
was. I have an an over eight hundred credit score and six figures in
the bank. Yeah. Does that do that for you? Carlin? If
if you start talking to a guy and he's like, hey, I just
won't let you know, she just she just made the symbol, she's made
the signal that she would jerk him off. So no, no, that's
he's jerking himself off. I've got an over eight hundred credit score. I
don't have six figures in the bank. But like, okay, cool dude,
Yeah, such a weird cringe e. Everything this guy does is fucking
sid to me. But speaking of stupid shit, the women are just loving
West's answer. He basically says like, you know, I don't deserve you.
So everybody's all like, oh well, West winds and Cassidy's like,
fuck, no, if you've let what's wearing this game, I'm gonna be
pissed. It's like, Cassidy, you gotta fucking chill out. She didn't
need to get heated about this is drunken ship, but it was still just
sort of like, oh my god, Cassidy, you gotta take a breath.
Yeah, Cassidy, what's eight times nine? Jesus well, I mean
she is going for the goof so oh, yes, this is where they're
in the hot tub. What is this? What is this? I can't
wants to know. Was she like this on Survivor? No she was not.
No, she wasn't. So are we back at the house, We're
onto the we're in the hot tub here. Part of me wonders is if
if this is the same thing he's like he had a quote unquote flirtation with
Amanda many years ago. He's had flirtations with a few different women in the
house. Esther that one season made me want a Vomit showed him kissing Hernsa.
I don't remember who Esther is. Maybe my right is it Esther?
Could I put my tongue in your mouth? Yeah? He had he had
a thing for Georgia at one point in time. Yeah, So it's just
it makes me wonder if if that's what this is, where he's reading into
it a lot more and she's just having fun doing this flirtation. Yeah.
Stan brings up the Nannie crush. The Nannie crush was a lot. I
don't even remember that. Scott says, Josh looking like an Easter Island statue
sticking out of a pond. Oh man, true pace is so long.
Hin is just it's like four inches long. Yeah, one is. His
mouth is always hanging open to which makes it longer. Look stupid too.
Yeah, he's terrible. Everything's terrible about him. Yeah, I need him
to do something with his hair. Stanley called him back tonight face the old
people like us. He used to be a commercial with the guy with a
giant moon head McDonald's. Well that's a deep cut man. Tonight Face goes.
Force wants to know how the hell he one. Big brother, the
guy who brought him to the last the final two. The entire house hated
them so much that they voted Josh to Winn just to like get back at
him. And that's how Josh want not because he's good, just because other
people hated the other guy more. Well, all right, we're out of
the hot tub. This is where they start talking about the hat trick,
which I think is a pretty good little plan. Actually, the idea here,
and this is kind of Tory in Banana's Banana's Brainchild. The idea is,
you take everybody's name you're throw it in a hat, you shake it
up, you pull the name out, and that's who you vote for it
and you don't tell anybody ever who you voted for. The idea of people
from Big Brother or survivor right, Yes, this is an idea to keep
the vets safe. The idea being that I totally random, totally chaotic vote
where nobody sort of knows whoever who anybody voted for, is going to throw
in enough chaos that it will maybe stop at people from looking at the vetsy.
So that's the plan here. So everybody grabs their votes and they make
their way to the secret vote. I do like that. I like the
idea. I think it has some real potential. But I really like it.
A bunch of people with just one vote on them that are out now
all paranoid looking around. Ye who voted for me? Yeah? And the
fact that very few vets have votes means that they're they you know, big
brothers, probably looking at Survivor and vice versa. So I mean that the
plan is a good plan. In the secret vote, we don't really learn
much except we learned that Cassidy is voting for Dusty and Bananas actually tossed in
Fessi, which couldn't have been one of the names on the sheet, but
Bananas just wasn't. Yeah, he said he's throwing more chaos into the chaos.
Yeah. Yeah, this is this is why I'm happy Zach is not
here tonight, because I actually really liked this move. Yeah, but I
only liked this move because it was for Fessi, because this is the kind
of ship that Johnny Bananas has done in the past and other people have done
in the past and have gotten them a lot of hate. Yeah. I
think it's pretty brilliant. Yep. I think it's brilliant because nobody's going to
ask Bananas who we voted for. They're gonna assume he voted for one of
the people in the on the sheet. I mean, it's I don't know,
I just really liked this move from Bananas. I thought It was really
good for that reason. But it's also the even though it's they're trying to
go for Big Brother versus Survivor, this was a good way to like throw
a vet in there and be like, see, look there are vets that
people are going forward like, we're not just going for Big Brother or Survivor.
It's we are trying to get the vets out. It just didn't work.
Yep. So well that's it for the vote. Guys. We're into
elimination. God damn it was it ready? We're into Nusia, yes,
Greg says. According to West, when Fessi saw his name, he claimed
that he voted for himself that mask. Is that a good strategy or what?
What is it? Why would that's bizarre? Fucking Fessy's so stupid.
This is because I'm an introvert. I don't have social skills. Bullshit coming
back out? Yeah, so weird. All right, Well, TJ reveals
the vote counts. We've got Tiffany with four votes, Fessi with the one
that we talked about, Desi with one, Alyssa L with one, Sebastian
with one, Channel with two, and Dusty with four. TJ flushes the
toilet out pops Alyssa L I liked this because it was a single vote that
popped out. Do you like, I'm trying to decide if I like this
hopper thing or not. That one vote can get a person seems very anti
democratic, seems like something Trump would like. You know, I'm fine with
that, but sometimes I question if it's actually working properly. Yeah. Yeah,
I think there's shenanigans. I so Kay brings up a good point.
She said, they said, why does TJ put it in his pocket?
I have noticed this every single time that they have done the hopper. At
the elimination, he takes it out and he immediately puts both of his hands
back in his pockets. He did it with the double elimination, and it
just it makes it look weird. So it makes it like, oh,
so this was random, but not really. You're just pulling new ones out
of your pockets like that right there. That move alone makes me think that
it's not real. Yeah, the hopper is is. There's a lot of
shenanigans you can do with the hopper and nobody would ever know or question it.
So I don't know. I don't know about this. Ah well,
Greg says it's a small insurance policy against the Superliance bulldozing the game. That's
if it's truly random. But we're saying we don't believe it's truly random.
Well, and there's other ways around that too. Like, I like the
loser of the challenge goes into elimination every time because that also is some safeguarding
against the Superliance thing. Its skeptical about it too. Yeah, I just
like that the loser of the challenge goes straight in regardless because we've had so
many seasons in years past that they have to do. The winning team votes
on who goes in and all of that. It just there's no real detriment
to the person who finishes last or doesn't finish at all, whereas in this
it's like, oh no, if you're on the team that finishes last,
there's someone from your team going in, like you guys can't get around that.
Yep. Well, in this case, this elimination is called blockheads.
We've seen eliminations like this before. You're locked in a cage, you have
to kind of using your body force roll it over. In this case,
you're getting flags. At the end of you get all the flags you unlock
the thing, and then you win the thing. They have updated the cages
that they're in, though, so they look like they're a little bit easier
to roll. They're a little bit bigger to roll, and you can get
out of all that. You can get your arms out of all of the
different sides. Right, would still be really hard to position it, like
as you're rolling, you also have to position it to be able to do
the stuff outside of the cage. Yeah, this looks really hard. Alyssa
posted pictures on her social media accounts of like what her body looked like after
this. She just looked beat the ship. Yeah, just bruises top to
bottom. It's it was. It looked horrible watching these poor women just fly
around inside these little cubes. But I mean, I don't really have any
notes. It just was, you know, you just watched them do it,
and Cassidy won. People had to reposition, people had to scoot.
Yeah. Yeah, it seemed like most people were supporting Cassidy too. It
did kind of come down to the wire though. Yeah. So Alyssa did
a chance, did a pretty good comeback on it. Yep. But that's
it. Alyssa go something one. Alyssa you're happy, tim, I am
be happier with zero. Where does where does Cassidy go? Uh? Back
to her team? Yes? The team she built I don't know, is
that blue team. I like that she that she says it's a team that
she built, but she only put like half of them on that seat,
right, Yeah, goose for us. Yes, Alissa Ell is the one
that went home. Melissa s is still in house. Yeah, and she's
the boring one. Yeah. I couldn't pick out of a crowd. Yeah,
but she's gonna start kissing Tyler next episode episode after. I don't care
about him, That's what I'm saying. The next episode, not the ones
we're covering tonight. Yeah, Yeah, I don't care about either. But
I'm just saying that's she's got something. I guess at least, uh,
Lisa. Lissa El gave us some moments. Sure, Yeah, she gave
us the moments of saying that her team didn't have egos with Bessie on that
team, right, ridiculous with it. Although he's a little rained in this
season, maybe he's finally learned not to be such an asshole. But yeah,
I really do wonder like I was thinking about that the other day,
Like, I wonder if he's reined in because he got so much hate over
the last few years because of how much of a dick he's been, or
if it's because of who's there or what. Because he doesn't have Casey on
the season this year. I guess she's the only one who's really not there
from his like main alliance. His Tory and Josh are both there. Well,
he Carlin, what happened on this happened on this episode? All right?
Episode six A really good looking underdog. West is even putting on a
little thick this season. This is the first This is the first episode that
I saw him act like a real person, though most of his confessionals he
has been this laying it on real thick. And there were a few times
this episode that he acted like a real person. And I appreciated when he
was crying because you am no not actually when he was crying. Okay,
So we are back in the house after Casty has won, and she is
already pissed, still pissed at West, but they walk back in and the
big drama of the night is Dusty immediately goes to his room and he is
heeded that he had votes, and he's pissed off and he's running his mouth.
He's getting real mad, and he calls out Tiffany, and he calls
out Alyssa, and he calls out Michelle, and so all of them voted
for him, and none of them actually like. It flashes on the screen
that none of them voted for yea, including the one that like wasn't even
allowed to vote YEA, she was on the winning team. He still thinks
he voted. She voted for Hims her This guy, I hate this guy.
I hate I gave Dusty a chance. I'm done. I'm done with
Dusty. Oh my god. After last after our last episode, spending forty
five minutes talking about how much of a creep he is. Yeah, and
then this episode where he's running around the room like a little chihuahua and like
his muscles, saying I'm going after you and I'm gonna beat your ass,
and yeah, it was like, what is happening? It was so weird.
It part of me thinks he's playing it up for the cameras, just
to I don't know, just to have that be part of the thing he
does. But it felt inauthentic. It felt weird. Just uncomfortable. I
just didn't like any part of this. I just hate that guy. I'm
just done with him. Yeah, Scott saying he was a dick on his
season of The Amazing Race. So yeah, I think Scott might have been
the one who's telling us that they in our preseason showed that he was the
one where any little minor inconvenience and he flipped out. So here we go
see it and I don't like it. Yeah, I did really love that.
I don't know who it was that ran into the kitchen, so my
god, you guys are missing some tea, and the entire room except for
Johnny and Josh stands up, runs for Johnny and Bessie run out of the
room to go listen. Love that another reason I like, Yeah, she's
such as I will. I'll give Tiffany some credit. She hasn't been like
my favorite this season. I've been kind of annoyed with her. But man,
Dusty was just going in on her, like, I know you did
it. She didn't hear my number one target whatever, and she was just
very calm and she's like, but I didn't vote for you, and he's
like, I know you did, I know you did. Yeah, she
didn't really good job. She's like, that's okay, I'm just letting you
know I did not vote for you. Yeah. So yeah, she was
like, I voted Sebastian and he knows that I could voted him. Yeah.
It was just very easy to disprove this, and he just was not
having any of it. Yeah. I was really happy about that. Well,
Josh and the rest of the people in the hat trick. We then
go to them and they talking about it, and Josh was sitting there like,
oh, yeah, I can't wait to do this again. Let's throw
more bombs at him. And my only thought was, you were going to
be the person that fucks this up. You were going to be the person
who lets it slip to someone else, probably to a girl that you like,
lets it something like oh yeah, we had this huge plan and we
threw I actually threw this person. I don't know who anybody else did,
but we did this thing. Ye, Josh, the way you're acting,
you're gonna be the one to fuck it up. Well, I'm gonna throw
bombs. Carolin says to that, Tory said, Carolyn said that, Tori
said, he dusty. He came to the house with some crazy pre workout
that had everybody hopped up at every challenge, said he didn't sleep the entire
time. He was so wired cool. So Kane and his pre workout right
weird, Yeah, I it was. Yeah. Anyway, moving on to
Oh Josh, it was Josh threw that that roll of paper towels and I
thought for sure that wine glass was going down. But that was just so
good that I found funny. No, so this is the part where I
actually appreciated West so Wes is then it goes. It cuts to his his
confessional talking to his wife, and it was nice to see him actually act
like a real person, like talking to her, talking to the dog,
asking how she's doing, talking about there are a few confessionals in there where
he talks about this is probably going to be my last time on the challenge
ever, I had a kid coming like this is I've come. I'm trying
to come to terms with that. It was I appreciated seeing him actually be
real and not don't have this weird. I don't buy it when he ever,
whenever he says it's his last challenge, he said that at least when
anyone says that, Yeah, but this one like he at least sounded sincere
when he said it this time, yeah, or when he was talking,
not even that he was said that he said it. He just sounded sincere
when he was talking, unlike literally every other time he's talked on this entire
season. Yeah. But yeah, well the case says Leroy said he retired,
and that's and then le Roy came back for All Stars and and hey,
yeah, but Leroy also when he retired, he was like excited about
his next chapter. West seems like he's dreading it and so sad he's gonna
miss it. It's like a totally different feeling. It's like if you're if
you're gonna miss it, just like, don't give it up. There's all
sorts of dads on the challenge. You can keep coming. Yeah, and
plus you seem to make good money outside of the show. Yeah, so
maybe maybe you guys could be okay if you take like a month and a
half to go do the child. Yeah. Yeah, that was why I
found it really strange when he seemed like so upset about it, and it
like he seemed so down and out about having to quit the challenge, Like,
dude, don't you have a real job that you claim makes so much
money that you have all of these wonderful things from the like a monster truck.
Yeah right, I mean I get this. This is basically going and
playing at vacation for a month. But I don't know it was strange he
was. Yeah, he's laying a big story on real thick. So yeah,
I think he was Angland for some TV time. Yeah, I just
in comparison to every other thing that he has said on the show this season,
this is the first time that he sounded sincere So that's why I liked
it. Plus I liked I liked his wife. I think that's the first
time we've seen her, and she seems to be the type of person to
put her put him in his in his place, so Scott says. Plus,
how many people in All Stars have kids? Yeah, like all of
them. John A has a bunch of kids, two time champion. Well
that's a bunch to me. I have. I have zero, I Kay
says. His wife is named Amanda, though can't tell it. Then,
all right, this is when we see Tyler and Alissa flirting, and my
only thought was, don't they know that relationships from the challenge never last?
Should realize relationship from a big brother and it didn't last. Yeah, And
yes, I realized in saying that that Zach and Jenna are still together,
but I feel like that's a matter of time. Didn't be Yeah, and
I'm pretty sure everybody else who got married from the challenge is no longer with
their person from the challenge and count because they're just if you do a challenge
podcast and you got married, it's still there's a curse. All right,
we are on too, we'll be ready for it. Really the challenge,
I smack, well, CT I miss him, all right. The challenge
is called hi No, I don't miss that CT and no one misses that
CT. I don't I don't make him chasing Adam around. No, don't
need it, Kay says I missed the CD because I was not in the
house. I just watch it from the safety of my couch. Yeah,
it would have been terrifying back when all of them are on steroids. All
right, So we are at at the challenge and it is called hi Q.
This is TJ's favorite challenge of the season. This is my favorite challenge
of the season. I'm sure this is many people's favorite challenge of the season.
It is trivia. You should join the page on in the discord,
me and Wolfe, we're we're schooling everybody on trivia. Thanks. Yeah,
you're answering all the questions before they are able to get them out. Yeah,
about half of them correctly, too. Nice? Yeah, all right?
So it is hights above water because what would trivia be without heights above
water? And it cuts to Tory in a confessional saying, somehow TJ makes
us all look like big dumb dumbs. And my only thought is most of
you are yep, especially after this round. So all three teams are up
on this platform on glass platforms that will slowly tip as they get the answers
incorrect. You can answer as teams, and it is you. Your team
goes until your last member is down, so you could have one member up
there for three rounds and still be in the game. I like this.
Yeah, what do you guys think? I like to fly on the glass
thing too, But what do you think about the being able to answer as
a team? I like that too. I can't remember a time when they
did that, but I liked. I mean, that's fine. Puts down
the number of rounds, Yeah, I you know, and I think it's
one of those, like it seems like a really good thing. But because
and this happened more than a few times, there are so many more chances
to second guess what your answer is, whereas a lot of times when it's
single, like just a bunch of rounds for each of the players, you
have people stay in it significantly longer. So I think if it were something
like that, then they could have stayed a little bit longer, But then
they'd need a bunch of different things that can move, And yeah, I
don't think that would work. But I do like it this game, Yes,
I liked I like trivia this one. I think we needed more TJ
laughing. Yes, we need not to them actually like working the mechanism to
do you the stuff, you know, like hitting the button that makes the
thing tilt or whatever whatever he's doing. Yeah, it does always. I
mean we did have quite a few of those where he'd just start laughing,
saying it incorrect. It's great. Yeah. Well, so it starts out
and Blue Team immediately at the gate, fails miserably at the first two questions.
Yeah, Johnny answers the first question so confidently, I don't remember what
it was answered it really excitedly completely fails a bunch of dumb dumb. Oh
yeah, and it's great straight versus flush. That's right, that's what it
was. One of them was which state is known as the home of a
thousand land of ten thousand lakes? And they kept answering, Michigan is in
Michigan. Yeah, Like, I only moved to Minnesota three years ago,
and I knew that prior moving up here. Like, I put that in
a discord. I said Minnesota Carlin's home, and somebody else chimed in saying,
actually, she's from Colorado. It's like, whoa intense Okay, this
is true. It scares me a little bit. I mean, I guess
I have said that more than a few times. No, Scott does bring
up it. Maybe they confused it with the Great Lakes. Yeah, but
Minnesota also was connected to a great like Michigan's connected to more than one great
lake. But I don't know. Scott said it. Well, give me
shit about it. I'm saying, oh, the Jojo question, I wouldn't
have gotten that one. If that one, I shouldn't have done that one
because I never actually watched that show. But yeah, I need that one
I thought on YouTube. No, it was Dance Moms and then YouTube and
then Dancing with the Stars. I should not know that both my daughters went
through a very thankfully very jojo phase. I don't have kids, and I
never watched Dan's Moms. I shouldn't know any of this. But yeah,
so there was Joe. There were a lot of very interesting questions. There
was the Civil War question. There were I loved. I liked this one
because it was a lot more mixed. It wasn't just challenged trivia. Yeah.
So the big things that happened was that first the Green team is the
first one to get most of their players out. They end up at an
almost vertical angle, and Alyssa is the only one hanging on, and she
hangs on for an entire another another round, answers the next round incorrectly,
and then finally falls uh. Red team then does the exact same thing.
Tiffany is the last one up, makes it one more round for a question,
fails that question, then falls here Josh fall who yeah, oh yeah,
asking Corey to help him came, No, no one's gonna help you
up here. Yeah, everybody else is barely hanging on. What are you
doing. Corey was just like, no, I'm not gonna grab you.
Look on his face. Like, what Caroline wants to know was that Desi
they were blurring out on the Green team? Actually it was the Blue team.
Yeah, it was. We think it was Desiah or butt was hanging
out apparently. Oh, for like most of the episode or when they were
up on the thing, I'm like, why is there blurring? Oh?
I didn't even notice. I didn't. I couldn't figure out who. I
couldn't figure out who it was. I know that they did that at the
very beginning they were talking about ass to glass and like five of the seven
of them pulled their butts out. But well, you know, I'm tuning
into Paramount Plus tomorrow. See if I can see Desi's ass. Was going
to call sexism if it if it isn't there, and he that's right.
If I'm gonna be a subjected to West's ass, I bet it gets see
Desi's too. Yep. All right. Well, ultimately the Blue team wins
and they're super excited about it, surprising considering that they failed the first like
two or three questions. Most of when we're still on the board too,
I think yeah, and he's probably lost, like one that's rights took.
Yeah, FESSI came down real quick. Monty came down real quick. I
mean Dusty was the first one out. This is I think the second game
that he's been the first one down. Yeah. West thought he was good
because he had really thick thighs. Hey, those slender thighs are good for
something. All right. So we were back at the house and Johnny and
Tory are talking about how they do not have any power at all on their
team because it is two vets and a bunch of survivor people. Yeah.
I think Bananda is good at this, knowing when to just be done and
like, not fight this, not make any enemies. The rest of his
team is all saying, Wes, why cause waves? Why? Why why
fracture this team? More? Just super smart? Yeah, just say okay,
yeah, because no matter what they did, they were all voted.
Yeah, were other players, And there's no point and having something like what
happened with Wes, where you throw a vote on someone like Cassidy and make
another enemy and then Johnny's played this game. Wes has also played this game
for way too long to do that. But yeah, Johnny signature moved to
one of his signature moves to just go along with what everybody else is saying.
Yeah, Rochester, it breaks up. Wasn't he yelling at Corey even
though Corey was on? But is a hypocrite? Corey did the right thing
too. Corey did the right thing. It's like when you're outnumbered, just
say Okay, that's all you can really do. Yeah, I got to
protect yourself. Yeah, yep, all right. So we are on two
nominations. Bitch Cassidy walks in and says I want West immediately straight out the
gate, and then they talked about going through for a big Brother girl.
So ultimately West and Tiffany are nominated. It seems relatively quick. I mean,
there are a few people who said who don't want to vote for Tiffany,
but it was it seemed like they were in and out of there much
faster than most of the other nominations have gone. Because Tori asked, like
Survivor girls are off the table, like is that kind of what we're doing,
and everybody was just like yep, yeah, So they're like, okay,
Tiffany, I guess yeah, all right, and Johnny walks back over
to West. He and Tori go over there and tell West that you know,
he's nominated and no other men were thrown out. West then cuts to
confessional and he talks about being an underdog. This is where we get the
title of the episode, A very good looking underdog. Yeah, he's not
really an underdog. No, No, he's out numbered, but he's not
an underdog. Yeah, Wolfie, what do you think. I don't think
he's an underdog, but I mean he's just out numbered, which is different.
Yeah, especially when he's like an elimination champ. Yeah, yeah,
he of all people is to say that he or like Anissa or Sarah,
there are there are a few people who if you told me that they were
underdogs in the elimination, I'd just laugh at you like that. No,
No, they're not. Yep, they have always been great. Like if
you said Johnny Bananas it was an underdog elimination, I'd say, yes,
yeah, he does not have a great track record. Josh Kay throws out,
Josh, that's a good idea. Yea a beast and eliminations. But
all right, we are onto the House nominations twice the last time. But
yeah, uh, Wes immediately starts politicking all around the house to have everyone
vote for a girl rather than a guy because he doesn't want to go in.
He doesn't care what girl, but he just doesn't want to go in.
It feels like that's his big strategy. I'm not telling him who to
vote for. I'm just saying, vote for a girl. Yeah, it's
better than no strategy. It's better than nothing, like you gotta you gotta,
you gotta try. And West is trying. Yeah, he's trying,
but it's also one of those like it doesn't really seem that sincere dude,
Yeah, if we if we go with what you want, then what are
you going to give us type of thing? Right, You don't have a
whole lot of power in this house. So ultimately the house wants it to
be a guy's day. Most of the people in the house wanted to be
a guy's day. I just like that he goes to like person a person
full for a girl, full for a girl. They're like, all right,
buddy, I'm kinda As soon as they all get in a room together
without West, they're like, so we're voting for Dusty right. Yeah.
West did not have anybody convinced, but they know better. Than argue with
west just say not say okay and then do you're yeah. I mean,
I don't. I don't know why I don't. I really do wonder if
he actually thought that he had some people convinced, because I feel like there's
no way, like you know that you got blindsided last time? Do you
not think they're going to do the exact same thing this time? And he
just found out that Johnny and Tory got like out voted, So I mean,
why does he think let's have any power? Yeah, but I mean
he's gonna try. He's not gonna let go of the game that he's played
for many many years get caught trying. M All right, So we are
at the arena, yes, and the votes have come down to two for
Alyssa, one for Michaela, one for Chanelle, and seven for Dusty Westcott.
Some women nominated, though, so he didn't He didn't totally lose.
Here, there's some chance west was not going in. Yeah, just a
little bit of one. I still didn't think he had much of a chance.
I can't do that. But what was it? Was? It four
votes for women? So it's like a third basically, right, Yeah,
thirty three percent chances not going in. That's not bad. Yeah, and
it ends up being dusty and shucker. Right. We should bring up that
when Tiffany was nominated for the in house vote, she was took it like
super well, She's just like, look, how good I am to be
up here with Wes. I'm sure her knowing that everybody was kind of pushing
for a men's day just made it that much easier. Oh yeah, I'm
sure she was shooting her pants a little bit. For the most part.
I was like, I'm going up. I think out West up there,
there's no way, Yeah, this is going to happen, all right.
Uh. The elimination is called crank shafting. So you have one person on
top of a wheel that can or a shaft that can be turned by the
crank, and the other person has to go untie the steering wheels. I
guess cranks from the different positions around the ring. You have to start with
the smallest and gradually go up in size for the steering wheel that you can
turn. They are tied together or tied to these posts with knots, and
West talks about how he has lost not tying not untying competitions four times and
that this is his detriment. This elimination was stupid. Yep, K in
the chat room agree is that it's boring to watch yet incredibly boring. They
every every nomination should be a headbanger. Why not have a headbanger? Or
I really love not so Fast. That is one of my favorite eliminations.
Yeah. By the way, Greg in the chat room says he's glad that
Carlin can say stuff like cranking chafts and whatever with the straight face. It
was purposeful, it was It was very intentional to to get through that without
laughing. So who cranked the chaft first? So West is on West' is
cranking first, and Dusty is up top, Dusty is on the shaft and
apparently get him down relatively quickly, but it looks like he's going pretty slowly
to untie all of these knots to get the cranks and then they switch positions.
Oh and also Dusty falls off, and I think I thought that he
was just gonna like fall off and like land on some pads or whatnot.
But they had a full, like four foot deep swimming pool with like floating
stuff looks like Quicksand Yeah, at one point in time, but Gussie falls
in it and then he picks up a handful of it and he smells it,
like what is this? Yeah, it was super weird. Yeah,
it reminded me of those the Japanese game shows where they get knocked off of
something into a giant pitt of mud that kind of looked like a giant pit
of shit. Oh so most extreme eliminations. I don't know. Probably it
was on like really late at night on like I don't even remember. Yeah,
many many many years ago, a couple a couple of chat room notes.
K says side note, Carlin is pretty oh thanks, and Greg says
Dusty looks like Biff Tannon make like a tree, Get the hell out of
here. It also points out MXC was on Spike TV that was on TVs.
I still love MXC. Yeah, it was something that I would only
watch it when it was the only thing that you could watch because it was
like three o'clock in the morning and there's literally nothing else on. Yeah,
and then they switch and Dusty has a slightly different strategy for untying all these
knots. He's going a lot quicker. It looks like he's getting a little
bit more re nodded as he's pulling things through, and then he gets West
off, like almost instantly he skipped even trying to do it with the first
steering wheel. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The fact that Wes even
tried for like West should have got it on there, tried it once and
then moved. Yeah, and for a solid like thirty forty seconds or at
least it looked like. I did like it. When Dusty was trying to
turn it though, and West kept looking at him, and he's like,
what are you looking at but ahead? So you know, TJ does one
of his very typical things and says thirty seven seconds separated the first and second.
Yeah. And ultimately, after Wes has gone on this whole thing all
episode about how he thinks this is his last one, and he once he
falls off, he immediately sits there and Johnny comes over road to him and
says, it's okay, like we know it's all good because it was just
my time I lost. It's time for me to go home. I did
like that. Apart from West. I don't need a BackRub or anything.
Man. I also, honestly, I at that point in time, I
was thinking, like, this is kind of a good ending to their friendship,
Like this is a nice little like bow on this friendship. Yeah,
enemy ship whatever, friendemy ship, whatever we want to call it. And
then TJ says thirty seven seconds and Wes you won. West just falls to
his knees and everybody's floored. A bunch of us a Discord call shenanigansanigans too,
Yeah, pretty much everyone in Discord is agreeing shennanigans. How is it
possible that every single person that was there thought Dusty won and he lost?
How is that possible? Including West West? Yes, including both of the
people that played the game. I mean, it's just I don't know.
I don't buy this. I just don't buy this. This is why they
do the thirty seven second shit, it's the one minute, thirty seven seconds,
two seconds. Yeah, we had to go to it to the tapes,
yeah, you know, half a second. All of this is just
everything they do that I think they're just pulling shananigans. But you know,
and we've seen like CT counts these things in his head. Yeah, these
other challenges that have been around the block. Banana's like, they should do
this too. They should be doing this, and I'm I would be shocked.
If they weren't, Banana should have been the one saying, like,
wait a minute, West, you won, Like I counted the fucking seconds
during this whole game, but I don't know, super weird. Yeah,
it was very sure. So West won and he gets asked, what you're
gonna do? He says, I'm taking Chris's spot. Chris goes to the
Green team and he goes to the blue There's the only move that made sense.
Really, I knew who was going to do that. Well, does
it make more sense to do Chris or to take Sebastian spot because I feel
like Chris is a relatively strong player. Yeah, I forgot Sebastians in the
game. He's on Blue two, right, yep, so yeah, probably
yeah, either one of those two. I think all the I think all
the Vets are trying to make their way to the Blue team. Yeah,
he's trying to make a super team for the vest the Vets. But the
only thing that the only reason that it kind of makes sense to me to
have Chris not on that team is that Chris does seem to kind of be
a rallying point for the survivor folks. And if you keep Chris on a
team with a bunch of survivor people that still outnumber the vets. Then they
still have a chance of like he's a big voice, they still have a
chance of keeping that as vibe or heavy team. Whereas if you get him
off and you keep Sebastian who I mean, as you just said, I
forgot he was on that team, you were he was in there like it's
it's a little bit easier to get them to change their votes to what they
want to do. Yeah, yep, that's it. Someone did point out
Chris though, is now on a team with Montya Tyler. Oh yeah,
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Thank you for being Democrats. I would take for not for Trump and not
deciding with him. The only the only reviews we get about politics that are
saying are telling us to shut up. Yep, yeah, tell us to
keep talking, tell us cheap it up, or we want we're just gonna
what I was just gonna do, what ever we want to matter every time,
we're just gonna say the same over again. Yeah, we do what
we want to do, all right? Anything else? I think that's it
from this episode. I just hope Emily sticks around for the after show.
Yeah, I love connection. Sim's gonna load. Should we both jump off
and everybody else on the chat room jump off? So you two can just
have your little I need a wing man in a waist. Tim's got to
crank some chafts show. So hey, if you're part of the Patroons,
stick around for the after show. We'll see you in two and two.
Chuck Whilery over there. Yeah, fucking old people, he's a huge qan
on trumper. I knew that. God fucking yeah, Carlin, Chucklery,
you really look like five. There's like this big there's this big look at
that? What is this? Do you guys see that? Who? It's
like a little thing was planted here right. Tim's house is frust uh all
right? Uh? He hosted a Wheel of Fortune before pass Agack, that's
true. I don't know that. Yeah, check rollers piece. But he
goes like this, yeah back in two and two. Can't remember how we
fucking on this show at this point, Hey, everybody, thanks for listening
for challenge. This has been Brian Carlin and as West said, ditto or
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