WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:18.079 You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, and welcome to 2 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.559 another edition of Video Games to the Max. I'm your host, Sean Go. 3 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:26.239 We're gonna here with me as usual, mister Mark Morrison, and well 4 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.960 we have quite a few things to talk about here. I got some more 5 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:36.359 Sea of Stars to talk about my adventure with I thought I was gonna like 6 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:42.200 Starfield and then not. Mark has been playing Lizen of El Tears of the 7 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:48.240 Kingdom, and we also got a big controversy with game developers and the Unity 8 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.840 Endinge deciding to start charging fees for installs, which that's how we'd been backtracked 9 00:00:53.840 --> 00:01:00.079 once. Let's see how you're getting more backtracking after today. 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Usually I've tried all of them 39 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:25.719 several times, you know, Skyroom, fall Out four, fall Out three, 40 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:32.800 fall Out in Vegas, all that, and could I get somewhat going, 41 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.759 and then it just it wouldn't drive with me. And the same things 42 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.759 happened with Starfield. I think part of my thing with Starfield is that the 43 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.159 ship part of it is fun, like building the ship and doing all that 44 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:52.840 stuff ship, yes, but I don't like the fact that everything feels like 45 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:58.039 it's just a menu, right, and like you're not really taking the ship 46 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.120 there, You're just hitting up button going there. And then a lot of 47 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.039 the planets feel kind of like there's not a lot of things on there. 48 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.319 I know that there's these big hub cities where a lot of things happen. 49 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.439 Maybe I need to kind of keep giving it a little bit of a go 50 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.560 here and there. But it doesn't help that I have this game that totally 51 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:20.399 is my jam that keeps calling my name and see if Stars. So I 52 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:26.800 kind of gravitated over to something that I would rather play and kind of left 53 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:30.360 star Field off and didn't keep playing. Like I said, it's not yeah, 54 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:34.120 go ahead to fly like planets. I think it's not like, oh 55 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:38.560 it is fast couple plant. I mean, well, but you're not really 56 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:44.079 you're fast traveling for the most part, you're not really like it is a 57 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.000 bunch of menus, right, So that's the thing that kind of despoils me. 58 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.240 And then you get on the planet and because it's a lot of its 59 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.959 procedurally generated, you know, you don't know what you're gonna get there. 60 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.279 A lot of the stuff. I mean, there's the missions are fine, 61 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:01.839 the shooting is good. Oh that's stuff. I think I enjoyed that part. 62 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.360 Like I said, it's just something that I might kind of like slowly 63 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:11.439 go to when I don't have other things that i'd rather play too, especially 64 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.160 when we get to the end of the year stuff, and we're just kind 65 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.000 of playing games that we know we need to play more to talk about them 66 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.680 for a Game of the Year and things like that. That might be when 67 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:23.360 I really kind of dive into star Fields and say, Okay, let me 68 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:26.480 give this a real shot. Let me see if I find something that kind 69 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:30.879 of hooks me. But so far I kind of haven't. And hey, 70 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.519 look for the people that have really enjoyed that game and are all right, 71 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.800 it's their game of the year and stuff, that's awesome. I love that. 72 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:41.319 I love hearing stuff like that. There are people that kind of feel 73 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:46.120 like me though that it didn't really grab them also, So we'll definitely see. 74 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.639 As you know, this release line up keeps going. Lives of Peas 75 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.000 coming out there. Everybody got reviews at right now. It comes out next 76 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.839 week. That's one of the games. Well I'll talk about we talk about 77 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.800 games coming out, you know that. That's howbody coming. We got at 78 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.839 some other games already hitting. So this is gonna be fast and furious for 79 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:09.439 the rest of the December. We'll see how that goes. But I am 80 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:14.839 enjoying see if Stars a lot. The story still kind of hasn't gone anywhere 81 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:19.360 where I'm at. But I love I love the characters. That battle system 82 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.879 got even more things added to it since the last time I'd played it, 83 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:28.639 so it's it just feels like every time they add something, it's just mix 84 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:33.120 the game more fun. And I love the little there's a little story moment 85 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:38.000 where you get the reunion with that character that I talked about it four like 86 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:43.920 your little companion that's not Solstice Warrior, and the way that he interacts with 87 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.759 you when he comes back at such a cool, fun moment. I like 88 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.800 that. I don't know how many more of those woman's are in this story, 89 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:55.399 but if they're kind of there's more like that, then I definitely gonna 90 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.879 enjoy it. But I am really enjoying the doing battles and getting the combo 91 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.600 having to be active because they can you can minimize and maximize damage and stuff 92 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:09.560 like that. And then they added a system where you can boost kind of 93 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:15.319 like Octopad travel, where you get like magic orbs that come out of enemies 94 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.560 when you attack them, and then you can decide if you want to boost 95 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:24.040 the immediately or you can wait and get all three and boost one character so 96 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.959 he can do a super powerful attack, it's I love that. I love 97 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:32.720 that they added nuance to the combat. So that's that's great and it's going 98 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.600 to keep me wanting to come back and hopefully I will be able to progress 99 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:41.560 more in this week coming. Other than that, just kind of had a 100 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.000 lot of things going on to take up my time. So that's especially having 101 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.920 to work a lot and all that stuff. But Mark, you've been playing 102 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:53.480 some things. How's that you weren't a big fan of Breath of the Wild, 103 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.079 So how is your time with Tears of the Kingdom? Is it any 104 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:03.600 different? It's continuing, I can really recognize it. It's like a well 105 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.720 made game, but like, yeah, it's not grabbing me and I'm like 106 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.759 hours. I actually just completely like one of the main temples, the Wind 107 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.879 Temple, and at the earlier is all the games, so that really provided 108 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.279 you Like you're in a room and you have to figure out how to get 109 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.160 out of it or you know, get progress, and it's pretty clear what 110 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.480 what to do. This one in Breadth of the Wild aren't like that at 111 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:31.240 all, Like the game is not handholding at all, Like there's no Navvy 112 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:37.480 equivalent essentially, So yeah, definitely, it assumes that you played the other 113 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.720 one, and then also that you're going to just grab this. I've heard 114 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:48.000 people get stuck in the tutorial part for a long while figuring out how to 115 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.480 get to where that first temple is. Well, I'm not even sure if 116 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.240 it's like the first temple. You know, I'm kind of doing things out 117 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.080 of There's no upset order or anything. It's just what these four temples or 118 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.000 uh, game has not. It's not stable. It's not one percent great, 119 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.000 Like it's it's pretty impressive that you know, you can go from the 120 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:13.000 sky to the ground, uh pretty seamlessly. But when it hitches up, 121 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.679 it hitches up pretty bad. Like I've had it like kind of freeze for 122 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.480 a few seconds here and there and Okay, that ain't cool, Like I 123 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.600 can see where pretty well I mean, I mean it's not even that. 124 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:33.639 Yeah. Oh man, though, tutorial like having to do like when you 125 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.399 do the shrine, so those are usually fine, but like having you go 126 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:43.960 to the dumbass animation of like talking to like the statues at the end constantly 127 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.840 and they say the same thing, like, I thank god there's a skip 128 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.039 button. I would to stop this game. Like three hours ago. I'm 129 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.960 I had the cart version because I actually got the Collector's version, so I'm 130 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.279 playing like the original I could. I haven't patched the game up at all, 131 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.639 so there's a few pretty fun item duplication bugs. So I have like 132 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.679 a kind of money now and that helped. Yeah, uh yeah. You 133 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:11.080 have different powers and in Breath of the Wild, the four main ones you 134 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.519 have like you know, the gravity gun, or you have you know, 135 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.960 you can manipulate objects. One is like you confuse objects together, right, 136 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:28.519 which is strange part of the building stuff. No, it's like for weapons 137 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.759 and like your your shields and stuff. It's like, okay, I have 138 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.799 this ruby and the sword. Now I confuse them together, and now I 139 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.279 have a ruby sword and it's like all right, run it. One is 140 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.279 like a rewind feature, so it's like I'm playing Blinks to time Sweeper. 141 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:50.120 And the last is, oh yeah, you can like if you're underneath something, 142 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:56.159 you can like jump between, like you basically like jump up and go 143 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.799 and like phase between the object. Like let's say it's like a platform above 144 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.159 you. You can like go through the platform and like come out the other 145 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:11.759 side. Right, But it's highly situational and a little finicky, like it 146 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.679 kind of works, but yeah, Like it's just like I'm just reading guides 147 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:20.559 constantly because the game doesn't tell you anything or I mean it has a tutorial, 148 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.840 but it's like, I know, cooking is a big part of this 149 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:28.519 game. How do I cook? And some of the UI is just terrible, 150 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:33.360 Like to cook to cook food, it's like going the menu, hold 151 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.279 the food and you can hold it to five ingredients and then you put it 152 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.120 in the pot. And it's like, why can't I just press a at 153 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:45.039 the pot and suct ingredients from like that menu or what should be that menu? 154 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:46.840 You know, like why do I have to hold objects like that? 155 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:54.159 Seems really weird, and you know, there's so item durability. It seems 156 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.960 easier than the last game. I've not nearly frustrated with this one, least 157 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:05.240 so far. And it's funny like that they added Zelda voiceover and she talks 158 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.600 to Link. I mean you're trying to like find her, but like in 159 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.960 the interest, he's talking to Link and other characters talk to Link, and 160 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.639 you know Link is just mute and it's like, yo, give it's time 161 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.080 to give Link of voice, you know, like yeah, I had a 162 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.759 lot of people talking about that, like is that is this finally the game 163 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.840 that it kind of says, well, they do it because it's like Zelda's 164 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.200 have been like the one sided conversation. You know, She's like responding to 165 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.000 Link, but Link doesn't say anything, so it's like, what the fuck 166 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.159 is going on here? You know? Maybe maybe that's I mean, maybe 167 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.120 that's part of the the cannon of Zelda. Is Link is always mute. 168 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.840 You know, yes it is, but because he's supposed to represent like you 169 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.879 as the player. Yeah, he's the link between you and and the world 170 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.240 that's there. But if sadly Charlie Murphy has passed away, otherwise he'd be 171 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.840 a great Link voice. I mean, it's fine, and I'm gonna keep 172 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:05.200 playing it, uh, kind of out of obligation. But I'm not having 173 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.840 fun. You know. That's like the weird Like, it's like the weirdest 174 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.480 thing is that can I can really see why this game is popular, but 175 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:16.799 it's completely not driving me at all, except for like very specific It's like, 176 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.639 oh I I figure something out on my own. That's that's cool. 177 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.600 Uh, And it almost kind of runts me like elden Ring in a weird 178 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.519 sense. I gets this big ass open the world and like Boss, It's 179 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:31.320 gonna spawn out of nowhere, all right, but you lovelden Ring, So 180 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.720 yeah, but that game have a good combat mechanics and it was enjoyable. 181 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.440 Yes, the combat. Remember everybody that I've had on the talked about this 182 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.480 game when it first came out. The combat was the number one I don't 183 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.000 like the combat in this game. Yeah, And if you're one of those 184 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:54.639 folks that you know survival games or or what, you like those, But 185 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.600 I mean it really depends, you know, it has to have good mechanic 186 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.879 and I'm not one hundred isn't sold on a lot of mechanics in this game. 187 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.799 Yeah, a lot of a lot of the you know things that people 188 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.559 enjoyed there, like exactly what you said, the whole Oh my god, 189 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.159 I can make anything really right, and I could literally build a bridge to 190 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.240 solve almost anything that I want to. And it's like, yeah, I 191 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.240 can see how people would really like that if you're into that. But if 192 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.919 you're not, yeah, yeah, that's the problem is I'm not. You 193 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.879 know, I'm just built. I'm just watching guides and the shrines like, 194 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.080 Okay, how do I get through this and get to get the treasure? 195 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.080 If I can you know, Yeah, you're just kind of like making yourself 196 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.360 progressed through the game, and like it's funny because they're I mean, there 197 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.919 are a bunch of side quests in the game which are pretty okay, but 198 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.519 there's one kind of reoccurring side quest where does guys like holding up a sign 199 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.600 and the second here, let's go to sign, it falls over and the 200 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.919 goal is like build something to the sign doesn't tip over, and you have 201 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.080 to like it has to like stay up right for a two seconds for to 202 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.639 like five. Basically, yeah, I always buy this guy's construction materials like 203 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.360 boards and planks and crap like that. I just build like the most like 204 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.279 basic ass, you know, stacking like lumber on top of each other so 205 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.279 when the thing falls, you know, it doesn't tip over. And I'm 206 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.759 sure other people are building like elaborate designs or you know stuff like that. 207 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.399 It's like I don't care, like I just want to get through it or 208 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:28.639 you know, just the simplest solution is probably the best. So right, 209 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.080 I think it's still fine. All right, I mean, like I said, 210 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.759 am I having fun? I guess I'm kind of enjoying my time. 211 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.240 Like that's I was up till like five am last night. Plane. But 212 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:43.039 yeah, uh yeah, it's just like the damnest thing of like yeah, 213 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.600 like it's not drabbing me at all, like it simultaneously is and isn't you 214 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:54.159 know right, I got the platinum and Strangers of Paradise also that it's fine. 215 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.240 I just did this one mission over and over, which is just like 216 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.000 running through it and get the treasure right and the mission completes. I know 217 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.840 it has. I think it has like three DLC packs or three like DLC 218 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.879 I'm not gonna get. I don't care, Like I'm happy to get the 219 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.279 platinum in the Bass game. Oh that's cool, as she got the platinum. 220 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:21.200 Yeah. I only took me like thirty hours for a game today and 221 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.360 me and Yan's played more of the Ascent where I mistakenly erased my saved game, 222 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:30.039 which was cool no ah, And like I think I was trying to 223 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.799 invite him into my game, and I think I clicked like new game instead 224 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.519 of resume game or something, so I just wipe my save. I'm like 225 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.879 meat, So I joined his game and he was like level thirteen in the 226 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.360 same levels I was like twelve or thirteen, and I'm one and I'm getting 227 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.759 like one shot to buy everything. But then eventually I eventually got it got 228 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.799 good, and now I'm at the same levels. He like, you know, 229 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.039 because just we're doing doing harder missions. So I got a ton of 230 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.600 experience, and yeah, that can continues to be jankie. It's still fun. 231 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.000 But the last like whenever we play that game, whenever I started, 232 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:11.279 it goes through every game tutorial and then and in the menu like this is 233 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.480 your load out, this is your augments, you know, all this other 234 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:19.839 crap. Yeah, So we played a few nights ago and it did it 235 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:25.279 like I went through most of the tutorials like already, but I hit the 236 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:32.400 armor tutorial and I clicked clothes and it didn't and it just persisted all the 237 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.559 way for we played like fifteen more minutes and it had this like everything else 238 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.039 was blurry except for the tutorial, and I was still playing the game like 239 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.880 it like beating, like heavily fucked up, and it's like I gotta stop 240 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:51.039 playing because like I can't see anything good for this tutorial on the screen that 241 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.319 takes up ninety percent of it. So we came to through the realization that 242 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:02.519 like the three sixty and two slightly less extent Tops three had way better online 243 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:07.240 struct infrastructure than the current consoles, which is sad. Yes, that's because 244 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.200 we were here's the onementing that we couldn't play Castle Crashers, And he's like, 245 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.599 I know, just working on the Tree six keeps just fine. Why 246 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:18.680 can't work? You know? PS five? Oh, that's so the PlayStation 247 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.680 one is not working. I mean I assume the three the Xbox one also 248 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.480 is bored. But yeah, we're gonna have to wait to see if Microsoft 249 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:32.599 even bothers with trying to go back and fix things. I doubt if Duties, 250 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.319 right, I mean, Call of Duty is like an actual like popular 251 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.119 game or now, I mean that game was probably the first time, but 252 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.759 definitely not you know, right, that's all I've been playing, all right. 253 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:52.079 Well, I mean that's a lot of cool stuff. We you know, 254 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.079 gonna be interesting to hear if you feel any different about Zelda in the 255 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.680 next few weeks or whatever. Yeah, I keep chipping away at it. 256 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:07.880 Yep. So let's get into the news here. And there is one big 257 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:17.279 controversy that has sprung up in the last like two days from Gain developers that 258 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:23.720 Unity has decided that they want to start charging a fee, a royalty fee 259 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:30.480 basically at the beginning of next year January first, or anytime someone installs their 260 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.839 game, and if you have multiple devices, it would count as another install, 261 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:41.400 which seems kind of counterproductive to someone wanting to play something on multiple devices, 262 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:48.240 But who does that? People? People want to you know this, 263 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.799 this Unity wants to charge money, so they're finding ways to do this. 264 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.559 So at now they backtrack some of this stuff to appease the outcry of Gain 265 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.920 developers, and they haven't read to be upset because this is really going to 266 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:06.680 cause an issue people wanting to use Unity at all. Yeah, because even 267 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.920 though it's not retroactive, so it's not like anything before it's installs. I 268 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:18.960 guess that happened after January one is when this would start taking effect because could 269 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.839 you imagine the amount of if this was all retroactive, the amount of money 270 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:29.400 people would be paying if it was so it retroactive that existence, Yeah, 271 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:34.599 for sure. So the thing is that they have a code that they have 272 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:41.200 to basically Unity has to pay to keep up, and supposedly it's rather expensive 273 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:49.319 according to the I forgot that the Unity Create president Mark Whitten says that the 274 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:55.599 maintaining the Unity runtime e secutable is quite expensive, according to him, So 275 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:00.640 anytime you install a game, it runs that it's secutable, So I guess 276 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.680 that taxes onto them. So they're trying to push some of those fees onto 277 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:11.759 developers, which would then also push some of that onto the players. Because 278 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:17.200 as we saw the extreme part of this, which could happen with a lot 279 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:22.279 of games, Cult of the Lamb's developer said, go buy that game now, 280 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.519 because on January first, I'm removing it from the store. That's not 281 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.720 good, folks. You don't want games disappearing from stores because people don't want 282 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.759 to pay fees way down the line. Because the thing is that it's not 283 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:40.799 like they're just gonna come and take out money every time this happens. They're 284 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:45.599 gonna take it all out of one lump sum after they hit the amount, 285 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:52.319 So they have some kind of threshold that you have to hit. So if 286 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.319 you're a you made your game with Unity Personal or Unity Plus, which I 287 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.880 think they're going to remove the Unity Plus is what they said, and you're 288 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.599 game made two hundred thousand dollars or more in the previous year and have at 289 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:11.720 least two hundred thousand lifetime installs. Any install after that, they'll start charging. 290 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:17.359 And some of this is gonna be twenty cents per install. Some of 291 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:22.279 it's gonna be two cents per install if you have the more expensive Unity Pro 292 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.559 and Unity Enterprise. But then it's also a bigger threshold. So if you 293 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.680 made it with Unity Pro, Unity and Enterprise, I know. So this 294 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.119 is like a lot of numbers for people. I'm sorry you have to Your 295 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.880 game had to have made a million dollars over the past year and then also 296 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:44.799 have over a million at least a million installs as well. But the thing 297 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:49.119 is that we know how gamers are, right, at least the angry ones 298 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:55.160 that we see on social media all the time. Let's say a game isn't 299 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:02.359 good or comes out not good, or it's some hyped game that gets a 300 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:08.960 controversy or anything. People can then decide that they want to go and delete 301 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:15.079 and reinstall, delete, reinstall, runs some program that deletes and reinstalls the 302 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:21.680 game over and over. Somebody can can just do a mass thing where everybody 303 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.000 buys the game and installs it. Like a lot of bad things could happen 304 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:29.359 with this, right, if you want to give your game away, it's 305 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.319 part of a charity. That's a problem. Right. If you want to 306 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.839 give your game away for free, that's a problem. If you want to 307 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:40.920 put your game an Xbox Game Pass, that's a problem because now Microsoft has 308 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:44.039 to pay for that. The bundle, the bundle thing, they said, 309 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:48.400 like, oh, if it's in a bundle, well, the demo they 310 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.000 said it even could do it for demos, but apparently if the demo as 311 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.519 long as the demo's note in a thing that includes the full game, where 312 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:02.440 it's like early access, then it won't count. But still charities have to 313 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:06.400 be approved by Unity in order for that to work, So that still sucks 314 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:14.559 if somebody refunds the game after installing. Like, you know, there's still 315 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.640 a lot of unknowns that haven't been answered here by Unity, and I assume 316 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.079 there's gonna be a lot more backtracking still. I assume that they are going 317 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:29.640 to completely or you know, and but the damage as already really done, 318 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.920 right, there's a lot of people that are I think it's Thomas Salah, 319 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:41.279 the guy who made a Falconeer, an Xbox Series X launch game. He 320 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.839 is already like full time committed to Unity. He already has his game in 321 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.759 full development on Unity. But he said, man, if you would have 322 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.759 came out with this like a year ago, I would have stopped making my 323 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.079 game on Unity, right, And a lot of people said they're gonna stop 324 00:24:55.720 --> 00:25:02.400 using Unity now because they don't want this problem of who knows when you're gonna 325 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:07.440 get charged some big ass fee because your game over went over the threshold and 326 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:14.839 you stop paying attention Right, the among us people that Oprah Interslaw said it 327 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:19.200 would cost me less money to just port my game to another engine, right, 328 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:26.200 Like, it's just it's stupid. I don't see other than the benefiting 329 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.039 Unity to make extra money, which they say, suppose that this is gonna 330 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.799 result only ten percent if you need developers ending up having to pay fees. 331 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.039 We don't know what ten percent that is. And if and if you're affecting 332 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.559 the wrong kind of ten percent, that aren't cool with paying this. I 333 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.039 don't want nobody's school with paying this. But people that are that this is 334 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.119 a big problem for them to pay this, you're gonna lose that those in 335 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:55.680 developers in the future. It's like, this is not I don't see you 336 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.880 know, any of the other the engines adopting something like this. You know 337 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:06.000 on real stride to actually lessen the amount that they get back from making games, 338 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:11.359 because why because they know that people need to make You have to make 339 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.559 games in order for the game industry to continue to thrive and be a thing. 340 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:21.640 Right, even if you keep up Fortnite and all these other games that 341 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:27.000 people play constantly, if there's not ever anything new coming out, it's gonna 342 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:32.640 slowly die. So you need these indie games and other games that are made 343 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:37.079 on Unity and other engines to continue to be made. I just wonder, 344 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:42.000 like there's somebody, there's a developer that that mentioned that Unity is run by 345 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:48.240 developers, and that did no one ever ask any of the actual developers at 346 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.799 Unity what they want what other developers would think about this, Like, I 347 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.720 mean, he can say Unity is run by developers, but you know Mark 348 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.680 Winton is there, and then you know the CEO of Unity is Genre Catello. 349 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.559 We all know how developer friendly heel is it when he was an EA. 350 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.039 So yeah, it's like that's the thing. It's the figureheads thinking about 351 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.160 how can we make money and then don't think about how does this affect the 352 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.440 actually see you brought Yeah, when you're talking about this, you brought an 353 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:22.000 interesting point of like it costs They claim to cost them money to like install 354 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:23.839 games, and it's like, how does that? How does that happen? 355 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.200 How you know, what the fuck are you talking about? Well, it 356 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.640 has to run the executable every time? Yeah, every time. But it's 357 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.079 not like, hey, I run you know, I'm running Half Life two. 358 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:40.559 It's a drain on valve servers whenever I run the game, Like that 359 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:45.680 doesn't happen. It's only during the install apparently because you don't they it doesn't. 360 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.759 I guess it doesn't cost them to run the executable once you over to 361 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.319 install the game. I don't know what the big thing is, because it 362 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.920 has to it has to install that secutable. So then therefore it's then every 363 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:02.240 time you run the game, it runs that secutable right, So but no, 364 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.960 it's not like I don't think Unity has like a storefront. No it 365 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.599 doesn't. It's just like, yeah, so it's like, okay, I 366 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.480 buy a game through scheme. Why the fun would is it charging Unity anything? 367 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.079 Well, it's not charging it. It's like something it has to do 368 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.440 with the the actual executable, like having to the more games that are made 369 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.440 with it, the more games that are installed with it. That means the 370 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:30.200 more it's reaching a certain threshold where they have to keep putting something to keep 371 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.279 YEA that Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but it's like that doesn't 372 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:41.799 happen with any other program or service or anything. Yeah, you know, 373 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:47.359 like I can understand them counting, like if they had some like weird counter 374 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.319 system where it's like, oh, we can see ten ten times people installed 375 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.000 the game or you know, because that's probably how they track metrics about like 376 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.000 how popular a game is. I mean aside from just like sales, but 377 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.240 like it doesn't count, like it's not like a resource train or anything, 378 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:08.160 you know, but also be not I don't know what they're they're looking at 379 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:14.000 that's saying this is a resource drain or whatever the thing is. It's them 380 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.200 just trying to make money off the fact that they know PC players and console 381 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:26.039 players will constantly delete things and then reinstall them. Right even though they're saying 382 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:32.559 it's only the initial install now that's going to cost money, it still doesn't 383 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.519 help because again, like I don't see PlayStation or Xbox wanting to pay Unity 384 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.799 some kind of fee to have the game on PS plus or game Pass. 385 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:47.480 That will never happen. Yeah, yeah, good idea. Fucking around if 386 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:52.440 Microsoft and Sony's lawyers, like, how how much do you think? Like 387 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.720 there's I forgot which Felper said it in here that all these quotes that are 388 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.880 in here, we're not gonna focus on. We're gonna delay DLC. We're 389 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:06.960 gonna delay doing things for the game because that means somebody's gonna install the game 390 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:11.799 again, right, somebody's gonna buy the game again because we have DLC. 391 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:17.039 Now, yeah, like that's the thing. You're you're actually hurting the games 392 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.920 that are on your engine instead of helping. I don't know what you could 393 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.960 really do if you're our Unity to make this work for everybody, Maybe talk 394 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:33.119 to people more and not just announced something like this, but yeah, examine 395 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.359 your business model and figure out I mean, I understand that they have a 396 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.920 code base if they need to kind of keep updating. Although I've heard like 397 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.599 other reletives like really pitching about Unity that yeah, Unity also wasn't going through 398 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.640 a good time right now either, basically since I tell it took over that 399 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.400 like it's kind of falling by the wayside or you know, it's it and 400 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.119 it's like, yeah, that that tracks, I guess, right, but 401 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.559 yeah, examine that problem. But I mean, yeah, it's just like 402 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.720 way to towards your business in like two days. Yeah, what a way 403 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.720 to make people really really just a day just all just broke yesterday exactly, 404 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.680 well it broke like the day before, and then the next morning they had 405 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:22.200 already issued one backtrack. Yeah, so this isn't good. There's already like 406 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.200 I think go Dot Engine already came out and was like, hey, look 407 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.519 we're free and open source, and like, you know, I'm sure unreal 408 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.799 it is probably going to going to like talking unreal Engine five. I mean, 409 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.519 because that's not free, but you know, well technically and I guess 410 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.880 it is. But if they get a big revenue share for right, Yeah. 411 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.680 But also it's like if you pay for an engine, that should kind 412 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.519 of be it, you know exactly, you pay your monthly fee or whatever, 413 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.200 like a lot of upers said, I don't mind paying my monthly fee, 414 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.920 you know, that's just part of it, and then then can basically 415 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.920 like the mid tier option. So it's like it's like it's like PS plus 416 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:10.279 or it's like now you either basically have the essential option or the premium the 417 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.160 super Premium one, which is like three thousand dollars more. It's like, 418 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.440 right, it's just this is not it doesn't make any sense at all. 419 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.799 You know. They said that somewhere, they said that somehow this is better 420 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.599 than charging the revenue share, which everybody else does. It's like, there's 421 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.079 a reason why everybody else does that, because it's the agreed upon thing that 422 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.119 works for everyone. Like, you don't need to go try and do something 423 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:45.720 new when there's a reason nobody else is really trying to do this because you 424 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.920 don't need to upset the apple cart in this way, right, you know. 425 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.880 It's it's it's crazy that a game that's loved like Cults of the Lamb 426 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:58.119 the developer Massive Monster, has to come out and be like we're still leading 427 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.160 the game on January first because of this or I mean, I'm sure it'll 428 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.920 be like the whole dealistic game. But then you know, Cultivate Lamb, 429 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.119 you know, Prayer Edition or something stupid like that'll come out and it'll just 430 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.359 be like Une five and you know, yeah, here's a reloaded version. 431 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.359 I'm not gonna that's the thing. You're gonna get a lot of people that 432 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.720 are gonna do exactly what Interest Law said, that we're just gonna pay to 433 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.599 remove our game from Unity, and then you're gonna see a lot, a 434 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.039 lot less less less people make the get with Unity, and the people that 435 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.039 are already upset with Unity are just gonna be like, oh well, whenever 436 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.759 using this again, Yeah, I give it. I give it a week 437 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:43.160 to two weeks before they just totally won eighty like you said, yeah, 438 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:50.680 because this is not this doesn't help anyone and it's stupid. So hopefully that's 439 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.519 the good news that we get at some point that we're talking about that backtracking 440 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.359 on this. But that's kind of like been the I guess the biggest like 441 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.799 breaker of news this last time we did the show. There's some other things 442 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.679 here as well, as you know, we we talked about Embracer with their 443 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:13.360 two million, two billion dollars that they lost and that they shut down Volition 444 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.440 last week. Now they're wanting to sell Gearbox. Of course, the people 445 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.119 that make Portlands just one of lands all that you know, good good state 446 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:29.760 right there. Supposedly that's just one of the options, according to three people 447 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.039 familiar with the matter. According to the BGC and Bloomberg, which saw an 448 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:40.719 email that Gearbox remains part of Embracer, but they're also thinking about going independent 449 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.719 possibly or trying to or just keeping Gearbox and not selling them at all. 450 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:52.119 But you know, they acquired Gearbox so like two years ago from one point 451 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.119 four billion, which you know, that's kind of nothing compared to them, 452 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.199 you know, acquiring Lord of the Rings later. Right, Yeah, it's 453 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.360 like I would probably try to be divesting myself with that nonsense for other than 454 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.760 a somewhat proven developers. Yeah, I mean, but I mean for them, 455 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.239 they probably think, Okay, Lord of the Rings is gonna make them 456 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.760 more money in the long run if they can get something to hit, right, 457 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:22.039 they're wrong, but yeah, yeah, uh but but I mean also 458 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.280 what like, I know Gearbox publishes some indies and things like that, but 459 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.280 I mean don't when don't you also run the risk of, like, isn't 460 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.199 Borderland's going to hit a wall at some point? And that's kind of like 461 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.719 the only thing that they do well, Like, I know, they had 462 00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:40.480 the movie coming whenever that is coming, I mean coming out saying that Home 463 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:46.760 a Homeworld three I think, and they used to have other franchises. Well, 464 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.880 what's you recall with that? Uh? What was it the kind a 465 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.400 born yeah about a barn, that thing that's gone. But do you say 466 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.199 Brothers in Arms? You know that did? Okay? And like Gearbox actually 467 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.679 kind of used to be like a pork studio, like way back in the 468 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:08.440 day. Didn't they also make that launch game for the PS five, the 469 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:15.760 one that was exclusive and then not exclusive? H thang it I can't think 470 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.880 of it right now. Doesn't look like, uh, yeah, it's weird 471 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:25.800 because like God, didn't they make Godfault? Oh yeah that's published by Gearbox? 472 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.320 Yeah yeah, so yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, it's 473 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.639 just weird because it's like Embracer has a whole bunch of other studios that haven't 474 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.679 made ship or you know, I wouldn't even know that they're and but then 475 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.039 the thing is like who wants them? Right? Are you just going to 476 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.760 shut them all down? I would I hate to say it, but I 477 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.679 mean I wouldn't. I wouldn't have closed Volition either, because it's like they're 478 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.920 having a real rough rough patch. But you know, they used to make 479 00:36:53.079 --> 00:37:00.840 great games. But yeah, this this thing is like weird because like they 480 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.559 it's not like Gearbox was small or yeah. I mean I think the problem 481 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:14.039 with Gearbox is they aren't super h prolific or they're not you know, they 482 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.920 basically make a game like every every three years, and it's like that's not 483 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:23.440 the greatest pipeline or you know, yeah it's not. But like, I 484 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:30.840 also understand that what they're looking for is somebody that will give them something close 485 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:35.679 to what they paid for Gearbox, right and get recouping some of that money 486 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:40.079 that they didn't get from the Savvy Games Group thing failing. But who's gonna 487 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:45.079 mean, realistically, who's gonna do that. I don't see like Microsoft for 488 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.840 Sony Paint ponying up for that for a Gearbox. Yeah, I don't see 489 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.559 take two like trying to re add them, right, So, and there's 490 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:59.360 really not that many other people out there, and look like, let's be 491 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:08.159 let's be honest less Amazon or what apples in the mix, right, Yeah, 492 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.280 unless ten Cent could do it, I guess they like just putting money 493 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.519 into things and seeing it grow or whatever, and maybe that would be the 494 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.159 best thing for Gearbox if they want to kind of have a little semblance of 495 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.400 independence, just be like, hey, Tensent, can you just invest in 496 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.519 us and we'll make another Borderlines or we'll do something else or make another Tiny 497 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.920 Tinas or whatever the heck that is that they want to continue doing. But 498 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.480 I just that's the thing, is, like there's a lot of people out 499 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:44.639 there just going and wanting to just buy studios and could I see maybe Microsoft 500 00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:52.400 if they ever get this thing over the line where they're they're done, they're 501 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.199 done with the Activision bullshit thing and they can go back to purchasing things. 502 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:04.159 Maybe. Yeah, they like shooters and stuff like that, but yeah, 503 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:08.440 but I think they have enough on you know, they have enough. They 504 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.760 mean, they're gonna be trying to wrangle act all the Activision crafts. Well. 505 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.199 Oh and they also published from it. Yeah, I mean that's the 506 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.920 thing is gearback take David Better. I think they're publishing track record is way 507 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:27.559 better than fucking Embrace your groups. Yeah, that's the thing too, Like 508 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.280 I know that the publisher, right, that doesn't mean that they would get 509 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:36.960 I don't know if that would mean that those game series also go with the 510 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.960 whoever buys them, right, But yeah, like you said, other than 511 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.679 Home World three, that's kind of like the only thing they're working on right 512 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.159 now, and I know for a while, well not even doing it. 513 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:51.719 I mean you know, they're just publishing it. Yeah, well, yeah, 514 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.559 exactly, they're publishing it. And they also had to do it through 515 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.280 crowdfunding. It's not that they you know, just funded the money themselves. 516 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.599 So I mean, yeah, like they don't have a new like they didn't 517 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.920 even have like a new announced game. You have to you have to assume 518 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.679 it's going to be something Borderlines related. But it's like, right, that 519 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.519 franchise is a bit wong in the tooth as it is. Yeah, they 520 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.760 even tried to bring back to tell Someboderlin's two and that thing came out and 521 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:21.039 then no one talked about it, right, Tiny Tina had some traction for 522 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.280 a while. Yeah, but you know it's it's again, it's a thing 523 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.599 of like, yeah, no one's talking about it or you know that. 524 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.599 I know. Yeah. The most you hear people talking about Borderlines now is 525 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.880 when you try to compare it to other games that are coming out now, 526 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.239 right, like that that's part a lot of star Borderline's comparisons, but Starfield 527 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:45.079 actually uh so, you know, and that's that's whether that is your flight 528 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.960 of fancy or not. That's something else. But I can see somebody buying 529 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.840 them. I don't think it's going to be right away. I think we're 530 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.039 gonna we're gonna find out about it later. Like this might actually be a 531 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.480 decent grab for Sony, who again needs people that are familiar with shooter games. 532 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.920 Yea for one point nine billion or whatever? You know. Yeah, 533 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.639 and and maybe not, you know, if you're still looking to do things 534 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.960 that are not live service because they have Destiny and Death and Bungee is the 535 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.639 one in charge of all these live service games that they're gonna put out now. 536 00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:22.960 But if you want to have a company that is very that has a 537 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:28.039 franchise that you know, you can put it out and it does numbers and 538 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.159 people will flock to it and it doesn't have to be live service U it 539 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:37.039 is something to think about, you know. So that's that's the thing too, 540 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.840 is who would want it? I could see both of the two big 541 00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:44.559 ones going to get it. Other than that, unless ten Cent just wants 542 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.519 to invest to keep them independent, I guess they could do there gonna end 543 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.280 up with it, and that would be interesting. I wonder what it would 544 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:57.239 take for a Nintendo to get into this, to get into this race of 545 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.360 of like buying something that they don't already own Like we've seen them buy studios 546 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.159 that they already kind of do business with, right, but like what would 547 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.000 it take for them to go grab somebody that's just like out of the blue, 548 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:14.760 Hey, we're we did a deal with them. Yeah, you know, 549 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:16.360 would they ever do it? It'd be interesting to see if they ever 550 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:22.559 did. So moving on from that here, you know, this was like 551 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.440 this past week was like the launch week for star Field, even though yes 552 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:32.639 it came out previous to September six, and really this whole thing with everybody 553 00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:38.559 getting early access now, it's like I agree with Dan Stapleton that they should 554 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:44.440 change the release dates to mats when with the early access version, because that's 555 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.920 when the game came out. When you already come out with a version that 556 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.119 people can buy, that's when the game came out, not September six or 557 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.800 whatever. But anyway, the whole point is that it is doing well for 558 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.800 Microsouth. They had six million, yeah, six million players and one day, 559 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.000 don't know if they're going to break the record that Ford's a Horizon five 560 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:14.440 has, but they're getting closed. Apparently it is selling consoles in the UK 561 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.159 in the US as well, So that's what you want, right, they 562 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.159 want these Triple Day games that will sell consoles, and this sex Starfield is 563 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.960 doing that. It's getting people to get into the ecosystem, which is what 564 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.119 they want, and that's good for Starfield, even though the like we talked 565 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.840 about last week, the collect critical writings are kind of like all over the 566 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.239 place for the game. And this also led to people saying, hey, 567 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.440 we love this, bethes a game, what's going on with the next? 568 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.400 But does a game which of course we know it's Other School six, And 569 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:51.440 once again Phil Spencer was a little bit coy about, hey, is this 570 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:55.719 thing going to be exclusive too? And he says again the whole case by 571 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.119 case basis thing. He said, you know when they first sat Bethesda that 572 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:07.960 because games that have legacy on other places might be considered, which perhaps Elder 573 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.039 Scroll six gets considered for PlayStation because it does have a legacy on PlayStation. 574 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.920 Right. But again, like he said during the court thing, this is 575 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:22.800 way out there. So I would base it off of are they doing well 576 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:28.920 at the time that they're finally figuring out what the release what systems this is 577 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.280 going to release on, because it's definitely not going to release on PlayStation. 578 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.800 I mean, if it comes out on a PlayStation five and an Xbox series. 579 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.000 It's gonna be way at the end of that fossil's life cycle. So 580 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:47.760 yeah, we're talking probably about more like a PlayStation six or Xbox whatever the 581 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.000 hell that thing is going to be called. Are they doing well enough at 582 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.000 that point where they would they just be like, oh, you know what, 583 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.719 why not put it on PlayStation, you know, get the most money 584 00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.960 we can for this thing? Or will they still be in the cadence of 585 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.519 all everything? But that has to be exclusive, you know all that, 586 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.760 So which is interesting because then Todd Howard also says, even though Pete Hyz 587 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.199 and Beathas' said before that they, you know, they wish the games could 588 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.960 be on PlayStation. They had the emails that went back and forth with Microsoft 589 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.440 about oh, why is this game can be on both systems? And then 590 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:30.480 why why can't our games be on both systems? Right? Yeah, that 591 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.480 Todd Howard said that the game Starfield is better because it's only being made on 592 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:39.480 Xbox NPC. Right, I don't know what do you think about that? 593 00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:45.440 He's saying basically that because you know the hardware, you know that what you 594 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.000 have to make it for, you don't have to kind of try to make 595 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.199 it work on numerous consoles. Do you think he has a point here or 596 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:58.199 no, because like it's not there are some differences between the consoles, but 597 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.599 it's not huge, you know. And I'm sure they have a PS five 598 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:07.199 development kit around there somewhere. I do kind of, I guess I are 599 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.239 kind of more subscribed tos to his initially his other statement of like, oh, 600 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.079 because you know older Scrolls has been another time, you know, PlayStation 601 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:21.039 before, or put it on this one that holds more traction for me, 602 00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.400 I guess because you know, Starfield technically is a new yp and same with 603 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:29.079 you know, Red Fall. Yeah, and I think i'd actually be dumb 604 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.159 if they didn't put you know, Elder Scrolls six on p S five. 605 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.199 So do too. But I can also see if if they still haven't had 606 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.480 a lot of hits from some of the other stuff, that they could say, 607 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.000 Okay, we need to make this exclusive to get people to just like 608 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:50.119 Starfield to buy the console or that. Here's the thing is that also presumes 609 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.840 that Elder fol six is going to be did like well, I mean I 610 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.920 would hope so right, like that could literally be the last game that Todd 611 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.320 Howard ever works on. I think he would want it to be good. 612 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.840 Yeah, he was when he's saying, oh, you know, Starfields is 613 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.880 a game of the generation. Yeah, that's seven out of ten game of 614 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.519 the generation. Huh. Yeah, I don't know about that. There are 615 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.480 people saying that, but I don't. That's definitely this is definitely not one 616 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.480 of those. I do wonder if, like you know, again we're getting 617 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.119 we're talking about the next consoles, like where is Microsoft going to be with 618 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.840 that? Or let's say that there's a lot more game pass adoption at this 619 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.760 point, like do they actually consider not having a console? And then do 620 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.079 you do it because you know for sure it's going to sell on the PlayStation 621 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.639 of six or whatever. So it would be an interesting thing to think about 622 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:45.239 when we actually get there if if that does happen. Yeah, I do 623 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.599 think that he's right about the whole part where you can now associate Starfield with 624 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.559 Xbox, right, like what happens with the PlayStation games that get made on 625 00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:00.760 only on PlayStation or Foul Fantasy sixteen and file Place and Rema, for example, 626 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:06.559 you associo associate thosal pointation, right, So I get what he's saying 627 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:10.639 there if you keep things on the console, then when you think about Starfield, 628 00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.960 immediately Xbox right right now, because of the way your laptop is. 629 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.960 I already knew when the game came out. I man, I can't even 630 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.159 think about buying it from work because he doesn't have an Xbox series whatever. 631 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.880 So it sucks in that way, but I get it, Like he mentions, 632 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.239 the whole people think of Switch when when you think of Zelda, right, 633 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.599 so could Starfield be that for them? Could it be another thing? 634 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.559 It definitely is a Bethesza game and has a lot of the Bethozen things in 635 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.480 it, no doubt on that. But we'll see it on the line. 636 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.280 What happens with them? Yeah, speaking of things that we should have known, 637 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.039 we should know already at this point when we talk about scort Enix. 638 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.360 It's something they have to do with sales. What's the next three word? 639 00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:58.119 Next four words that come out of your mouth, come out of the mouth 640 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:04.480 after that? Did not eat expectations well, lo and behold, fall fastixteen 641 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:10.000 did not meet the high end of the company's expectations. These expectations just are 642 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.559 something else was great. To be fair, they did put a lot of 643 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:22.039 money in sixteen. Uh, they tried to westernize it, like make it 644 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:27.880 more for a Western audience, use the Game of Thrones stuff or aspects of 645 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.719 it. Uh. How much of that do you think when you compare it 646 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:37.400 to fail Fantasy fifteen? Is it because it's only one? Five? H? 647 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:42.639 I guess some, But I mean I asked you rather be in PS 648 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.880 four on both? Right? If it was on PS four and then also 649 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.639 on Xbox, wouldn't have made more money? Right? We still have a 650 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.480 lot of people in Japan they don't have PS five. We have a lot 651 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.159 of people here that don't have that. I think the PS four one makes 652 00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:01.280 a little more argument because like Squares never really supported kind of fantasy on the 653 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:07.800 Xbox, Like, yeah, fifteen was on there. Yeah, but you 654 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:12.599 have to imagine that if it sold well, that people would that they wouldn't 655 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.599 have made it exclusive, or wouldn't have taken Sony's money to make Fantasy sixteen 656 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.320 exclusive. And you know, it's probably one of those where they offered it 657 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.239 to both of them and something to get them more money, and they said, 658 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.719 okay, well we'll just take Tony's money and make it exclusive. Right 659 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.960 they they they also already had the deal with Fall High seven remakes, So 660 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.920 yeah, who knows on that they had a deal with Fall passy fourteen until 661 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.000 just now, right, So like what's what I mean? It's like yeah, 662 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:43.800 like h and you know, think about like Fantasy U thirteen, like 663 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:47.239 that came out on both consoles PS three and Xbox three sixty, but the 664 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.519 three the three sixty version was screwed up heavily, wasn't it. I thought 665 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.519 it was exclusive the three sixty for a while. No, it came out 666 00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.760 on both. The three sixty one came out like multiple disks because a blue 667 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.599 ray, but like the three sixty one had like bad frame rate issues and 668 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.519 like the CGI was like not as good, like the resolution wasn't as good. 669 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.920 Because it's like, yeah it Squarest did like a basic as port of 670 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.679 Fantasy thirteen. There you go. Yep. So it's interesting. You know. 671 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:24.360 They also kind of blame the Avengers stuff here and we're spoken, yeah, 672 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:29.159 I mean they haven't had a ton of hit. Well the hits they 673 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:34.280 do have are small. Yeah, well they're modest, but it's like they 674 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.679 expect the world. It's like yo, yeah, until you release Fall Fantasy 675 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:44.119 seven remake two or the hell that thing is called like don't get your hopes. 676 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:45.800 I mean, yeah, that's the thing too, right, is that 677 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:51.960 it didn't even meet the Fantasy seven remake numbers. It got close, but 678 00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.679 it didn't meet them. And then also that's where the PS four could have 679 00:51:54.719 --> 00:52:00.719 come in to play, is that fall Fantasy seven remake was released very close 680 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:07.760 to when the pandemic started, wherever had the lockdown between people buy more games, 681 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.440 and then it was on PS four. Yeah, so which is the 682 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.159 cost on what people had? So and then it came out to PS five 683 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.000 later, So that like that's the thing is if you if you had it 684 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.400 out on both, Yes it suffers in quality as far as like the graphics 685 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.559 and everything else, is that matter more to you than the sales? And 686 00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.320 that's something that's furry Nix apparently at first thought was better. Maybe they thought 687 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.840 there was gonna be more PS five sold at that point. Also, I 688 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.559 remember that until this year, really it wasn't that they're just now badly available, 689 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:47.199 and that also like we gotta remember that we're in like an economic downturns 690 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.719 or it's not like people were just going out in droves buying PS five's. 691 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.039 And I think also we kind of have a backlash. Two things that keep 692 00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.719 you in the home. Right now, because we had so much time we 693 00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:04.119 were in the house. Because of the pandemic, people are spending more on 694 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:10.000 like traveling and via cars, transportation, other things that are more quote unquote 695 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.119 fun than being in the house, you know, playing a game. So 696 00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.440 I don't think you have that casual appeal, not FO fantasies niche, but 697 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:23.199 still you don't have that casual, necessarily appeal like a Zelda Mario or grant 698 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.440 that thought of call of duty bring that you do with FA fantasy. So 699 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.599 I think screen exeased to also think about that interesting. Also, what people 700 00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.719 have been doing. We've said this a bunch of times. I don't I 701 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.719 don't want to rehash it here, but flooding the market with unfinished, bad 702 00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.360 or untested games is a bad move. Oh, no doubt, no duh. 703 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.800 Tokyo based developer and gamer Michael Prefontaine. Yes, we've said that a 704 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.199 bunch of times. Just putting out a slew of titles in a whole six 705 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:59.320 months span without any marketing, I don't know that's not going to help you, 706 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.119 right. Look, they scoring Nix and so many for the most part, 707 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.280 did a hell of a lot of marketing final Fantasy sixteen not not putting 708 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:14.519 it. They did their job for sixteen. It's just dude, I mean, 709 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.639 like you know, once you get burned by a company. There was 710 00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:24.119 also the whole sixteen isn't my final fantasy thing. A lot of people didn't 711 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:29.039 buy it because it wasn't turn base, or there's a lot of people that 712 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.119 bought it because it was not turn base. Also, It's just I don't 713 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.280 know. I don't think we need to be blaming all scoring Nix's woes on 714 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:43.599 FTA sixteen not doing God numbers. I know they wanted God of War numbers, 715 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.280 but you weren't going to get that. I don't think you were ever 716 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:51.679 gonna get that. But when you're on one system only, right, that's 717 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:55.639 that's so they had to put PS four numbers for God awarded Riding the Rock 718 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.800 to hit that number. So I think it's just kind of unfair. I 719 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:05.159 don't don't know where screens gets this whole meeting exportationous thing and what this really 720 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.960 means. I know this is a report, it's not necessarily we haven't heard 721 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:14.239 from square Enix themselves say that, But I don't know. I do agree 722 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.239 that they need better quality control. That is their biggest problem. They have 723 00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:24.119 really bad quality control, and they're letting these creative heads get too big, 724 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.960 and then once they start making the game, they don't know how. They 725 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.119 don't have a way to tell them. Yo, y'all need to pivot. 726 00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:35.480 Y'all need to do something else. This needs to be smaller. This. 727 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.960 You can't have this in here. It's going to confuse people. I don't 728 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:45.320 I don't know necessarily, but that's the thing you have, Like no moura 729 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.599 on here during Kingdom Hearts four and we know how that goes. That's gonna 730 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.719 take forever to get made, just the way that he makes games. You 731 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.519 got Finance seven remake, You got all these remakes supposed to in development. 732 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.559 Also, what happens when those don't pan out? Other than Fall Fantasy seven, 733 00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:04.440 I hope not. Like I really would like to see AT ten and 734 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.719 nine remake and whatever to my favorite Paul fantasies. But I don't know. 735 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.440 Mark's just I mean, yeah, I score, it's kind of in a 736 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.519 rough place and it keep coming out with crap that no one cares about or 737 00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:19.320 that's yeah, like you said, mediocre, like that ever crisis thing. 738 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.440 It's like, who who asked for this? I think that's fine. It's 739 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.119 a way for them to make money. I don't think that's the problem. 740 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:30.159 I think it's stuff like it's it's because those closing down in six months if 741 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.960 they you know, like that fond Fantasy seven Battle Royal thing they did like 742 00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.079 last year on mobile. No, that thing, I do agree with. 743 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:43.159 That thing was not I think this is okay in a way because if you 744 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.719 it's not like those other ones don't make money for them, the Brave xpus 745 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:50.159 and Movius one and all that. I mean, those things are still getting 746 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.280 content, so they must be making money for them. I think this is 747 00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:58.440 just this was made in that same way with using Fall Fantasy seven as a 748 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.079 way to get people to, oh hey, sit on the winning what play 749 00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:06.800 Foal Fantasy seven and Paul Fantasy seven Crisis Score. And I don't necessarily think 750 00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:12.599 that's the worst decision. I do think things like having deal Field, Chronicle, 751 00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:17.519 Star Ocean, that Farming game, all that come out a six months 752 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.480 fan yeah, Harve of Stella, like, because a lot of the stuff 753 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.119 they come out with this year is good, right, Theodoredam was really good, 754 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:31.960 great, even Opa Power two is great. You know, Pop sixteen 755 00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:39.039 is great also. It's just they've understand that those Japanese arputs are not the 756 00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:44.360 system sellers they were back in the day, right, I honestly doubt. 757 00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:46.039 I mean, Theater Rhythm was good, but I doubt it was like a 758 00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.440 huge No, no, I'm talking about sales wise. If it hit him, 759 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.480 if it would hit a million, they would have talked about it, 760 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.199 somebody would have put a press release about it or right. Yeah. I 761 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.119 love the fact that they're making DALC for it. Still, you know that 762 00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.360 sixteen gonna have the ELC, you know, all that stuff. How much 763 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:07.159 more are they gonna support it after that? I don't know. But that's 764 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:12.800 also a way for them to keep making money on that game that doesn't constitute 765 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.480 sales. Maybe it's something where like it's already gone on sale, like maybe 766 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:20.239 it'll make more money when it, you know, on a sale because it's 767 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.760 only a rhythm game at the end of the day. It's not not that, 768 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:30.719 but the other games like are just it's just it's like see if stars 769 00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:37.519 it hits that one market that loves those kind of games, and that's it, 770 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:43.159 you know. Yeah, But the problem is that market is rapidly dwindle 771 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.760 one. So yeah, like that's the thing is it only hits a certain 772 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:54.360 market, and it doesn't it doesn't It doesn't expand really that much. Like 773 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:59.800 fa Fest fourteen does great, and maybe you get people that are gonna go 774 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.719 when it hits on Xbox, you're gonna get people that play the game and 775 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.400 get into it and everything else because of all the hoop law and everybody talking 776 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:13.559 about how great it is. But again, these are games that just don't 777 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:19.199 appeal to a certain audience that and also f sixteen doesn't really it doesn't really 778 00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.559 offer a way for you to keep playing the game, right, So, 779 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:25.800 like it doesn't make people want to you beat the game, and then that's 780 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.079 it, right, So listen, once people if they've watched the game played 781 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:36.519 on Twitch or they had a friend that said they beat the game and they 782 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:42.280 felt this way about it, if it doesn't really move them to want to 783 00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.800 buy it themselves, they're not going to. It might also be just one 784 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.320 of those where seventy dollars a lot for a game and they might buy it 785 00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:52.199 when it's fifty or twenty five or whatever. It's screens has got a lot 786 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.079 of stuff to figure out right for sure, I don't know. I don't 787 00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:57.800 know when they're ever going to fix this issue of making too many games, 788 00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.960 But at least this year it doesn't feel like they made like a ton and 789 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.000 just shut them out there. That being said, they are doing this thing 790 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:10.039 that I do like that they've well it's not screenings, but screenings got onto 791 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:17.960 the train of putting things on PlayStation plus when you have another game in the 792 01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.800 franchise coming out. Uh, they're doing that. I don't know why. 793 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:28.559 I still don't understand this whole what makes something premium and what makes something extra. 794 01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:32.360 I thought anything that was PS four and above what was supposed to be 795 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.519 part of extra, and then anything that is PS three and below is premium, 796 01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:45.480 but then apparently not like it's like, so they have one Star Ocean, 797 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.679 two Star Ocean games, which are the two most you know, recently 798 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.239 released ones, the Divine Force, which is the one from last year that 799 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.679 got released in that whole Smorgas work of games that I talked about, and 800 01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:00.559 the Star Ocean Integrity and Faithlessness, which is actually be pretty bad. And 801 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:07.159 then the other Star Ocean games that we're out on PS four First Departure are 802 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.800 Till the End of Time and Last Hope, which is a remaster all PS 803 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:15.719 four games and they're all premium. So explain this to me so many I 804 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.639 don't get this, but I do commence Screenix for just putting this stuff out 805 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:25.840 there and letting people go and explore part of the Star Ocean franchise for the 806 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:32.400 fee of having PS plus and realizing that before this h D two D remake 807 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.320 that's coming out this year, these people will get into it and went about 808 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.119 the remake. I don't know, but I like that. I like when 809 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.679 you use things like this. It's I think it's a good idea. Yeah. 810 01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:46.239 And Dragon's Crown Pro, which is all PS four, is apparently premium 811 01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:51.000 as well, which game both of us liked. I don't understand that either, 812 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:55.719 but whatever, right, But then Odin Spear, Leef Frowser and Thirteen 813 01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:00.800 Sentinels are part of Extra Make It makes sense, Sony, Make It makes 814 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.480 sense. Also a new replicant it's also going to be on there. So 815 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.599 I never got to play that, so maybe maybe I have it and I 816 01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:12.679 played like a few hours, but it just didn't grabbed me like you know 817 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.320 the other one did. Yeah. Automata, Yeah, Yeah, that seemed 818 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.000 to be the thing with a lot of people that didn't grab them with that. 819 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.679 Uh So, moving on from here, let's talk about Nintendo for a 820 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:30.559 little bit, shall we. Nintendo explains the Charles Martinez's ambassador role, and 821 01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:38.159 it's very ambassadory. He's gonna be traveling the world talking about how much he 822 01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:46.039 enjoys being Mario and trying to get people to love Mario Moore and yeah, 823 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.800 so anytime they have like a Nintendo event where there's a Mario game present or 824 01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.000 something that has to do with Mario, He's gonna be there, apparent. 825 01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.320 Yeah, sounds about right, the son Auto Grass Meat fans. Yeah, 826 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.199 and here's at a comic convention like locally a few months ago. I think 827 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.239 of like may around here. Yeah, just meet people and do Themorrow voice 828 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.360 and haven't record phone, you know, voice messages and stuff for you. 829 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.000 Yeah, don't. No announcement about who is taking over. Yeah, we 830 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.280 don't. We're probably not going to know that for a while until tomorrow Wonder 831 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.119 comes out, and it'll probably just feel like some stage name or some unknown 832 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:28.840 name. But I'll still be Chris Pratt. So anyway, the I've forgot 833 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:34.119 which I don't know if it's Games Came or which thing that Nintendo showed off 834 01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:38.960 the switch to ad Yeah, it's Games comp or that's the rumor anyway, 835 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:45.280 So folks, So Nintendo basically has been showing off the switch to doing tech 836 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:51.400 demos and apparently it can run the major still making Unreal five Tex demo thanks 837 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:57.480 to that in video DLSS technology, and it looks pretty good. It's running 838 01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:00.639 pretty good and also some higher frame rates for Breadth of the It doesn't mean 839 01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.599 that they're going to release Breath of the World, but that's good that it 840 01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:10.159 is using that LSS technology. I'm sure they will like it or Breath of 841 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.440 the World it will be, or they'll have like a double pack maybe a 842 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.960 both games and it's like now it's enhanced for Switch two or whatever. Yeah, 843 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:18.480 it could be hopefully, Yeah, hopefully they're not gonna I mean, 844 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:23.239 if they charge the ten dollars I guess whatever. Just hopefully it's not insane 845 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:30.920 like recharge that they're doing for that. I really hope that that does mean 846 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.639 that, Okay, we can have an underpowered switch, but it is going 847 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.519 to run closer to like a PS four pro I guess level or something like 848 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:42.519 that maybe that means it can run more of the games you know you'd still 849 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.039 be having coming out now on PS five and Xbox series, because that's gonna 850 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:49.199 be the problem, right, You're coming out next year where already in the 851 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:55.960 middle of the PS four, PS five and Xbox series being out there, 852 01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:00.920 and you're going to be behind them, Like it doesn't matter how awesome the 853 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.079 fact that it's affordable and that you can have more Nintendo. Yes, they 854 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.760 will probably still keep doing what they do. I'm sure that it won't affect 855 01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:14.360 them that much, but eventually, not being able to run like the newer 856 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.000 third party games or even the third party games that came out earlier on the 857 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:21.880 PS five in series is going to be a problem. Yeah. So if 858 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.760 they can still have it come out around the three fifty four hundred dollars range, 859 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:36.000 and the fact that you know it's still will work and and and have 860 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:42.880 this whole system still have these game new games come out is good. It 861 01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.440 makes it to where it'll be worth the investment of the four hundred dollars or 862 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:53.159 whatever instead of at least for two years until Yeah. I don't know, 863 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.679 but maybe that will make it to where they can keep up with it right, 864 01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.920 it can move it from having the it can actually be a four K 865 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.880 image when you put it on the TV, and maybe it'll be ten ADP 866 01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:09.480 or fourteen maybe probably ten ADP. It is the mostly probably do when it's 867 01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:13.039 importable, but it'll be worth it to put it on your new four K 868 01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:16.159 TV and not look like I'm sorry, but let's be honest. When you 869 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.079 put the thing on your TV. Sometimes depending on what game it is, 870 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:24.440 sometimes it actually looks worse. Yeah, there's some pretty grimy stuff, and 871 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.400 so like that's the problem, Like most people still there, well not most, 872 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.119 there's a lot of people that love playing a portable like me. But 873 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.960 then when you still want to put it on your TV and show people, 874 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.800 hell, this is the game, or you want to play something with somebody 875 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:44.800 else, and it's much easier to put it on your TV than you know, 876 01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.320 you can do that. So and I just I hope that it really 877 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:55.039 does what it can and it's still mostly a switch. I know that they 878 01:06:55.039 --> 01:07:00.599 said that there's some like things they might be trying with it. They've possibly 879 01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.480 added some kind of bluid thing to the joy cons maybe that are going to 880 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:09.039 be on the switch to that could prevent it from doing drift. But we'll 881 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:13.519 see because not even the dual sense. The dual sense has drift also, 882 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.239 so I don't know if they will have resolved that problem or not. Yeah, 883 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:25.000 anyway, so we have some of the things here because I have to 884 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.000 go and pick up my daughter, so we can't spend too much time here. 885 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:33.280 But ub Sauce been having some issues with Skull and Bones, losing another 886 01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:39.199 creative director. They had to delay X Defiant because you can't pass the Xbox 887 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:45.559 of PS five certification tests. Again, another market quality right there. It's 888 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.719 just brother and honestly, I feel like I'm almost tired of talking about sculling 889 01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:55.800 Bones to the Saint. Get to keeps on giving. Yeah, it's just 890 01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.559 somehow they feel like they're still they can charge seventy dollars for this. I 891 01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.440 don't. I don't understand, Like this kid is going to come out and 892 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:08.480 I cannot This is not going to be one of those games that it comes 893 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:12.159 out and then later they're gonna save it. It's just not it's gonna come 894 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:15.800 out. Maybe they'll be able to play it, and that's kind of it. 895 01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:19.159 At some point you need to just I don't know it feels like it's 896 01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.199 more of a headache to keep the laying this game and keep like having it 897 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.399 be there. I don't know, at some point cut your losses yourself. 898 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.239 Do you need another thing that comes out that's mediocre? And like really the 899 01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:35.119 only thing that you can come out with that has the quality is Assassin Screed 900 01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:40.680 and everything else is just all right. It's like, I guess that Crew 901 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.399 Motorfest is going to come out, and I wonder what that's gonna be. 902 01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.359 Well, every is somebody there right or right and just last week or this 903 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:53.760 week or yeah, no one cares like that's the biggest props one. Yeah 904 01:08:53.800 --> 01:09:00.560 this is their third Crew Game. Yeah Crew Game. Really keep keep doing 905 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.159 this? Huh yeah, Well, I mean they promised a bunch of stuff 906 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:06.960 with it. I guess everybody has to feel out. They have their their 907 01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:15.359 car racing game or whatever. But the ESA is gonna be doing No. 908 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:20.840 E three for twenty twenty four. They're apparently reinventing eighty for twenty twenty five, 909 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:25.760 whatever that is. I feel like we've also talked about this a lot. 910 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.159 I really don't know what they can do when you have summer game fests 911 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.520 out there and they're not going away. I know E three has a name, 912 01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:41.159 but it's just like E three is something from a time gone by, 913 01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.680 and you already have packs and I don't know, Mark, like, what 914 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.279 can they really do to you already have something like games calm like and what 915 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:53.199 can they really do to make E three even be a smblance of what it 916 01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:57.720 once was? I think when they pivoted more towards making it more public, 917 01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:02.159 that's kind of a downfall, yeah, because then it becomes yeah, justice 918 01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:08.000 ever together event or you know, so I would actually say go back to 919 01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:13.159 like more the roots of having it be like a more exclusive event if possible, 920 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:15.319 Not that anyone, you know, Hey, I worked at King's Top 921 01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:17.920 for six months and I canna scam I wait into eat three, you know 922 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:23.760 or whatever. That's my only real suggestion, like real thought on the matter. 923 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.560 I think they have to do something more like Jeff does. You cannot 924 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.640 charge people for this having this huge as booth there and trying to nickel and 925 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:38.239 die people constantly and charge so much just to show up at ether. I 926 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:42.760 mean, like, listen, people already pay a ton for the airfare and 927 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:46.239 the hotels and everything else. You're going to charge the press to go. 928 01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:50.199 You know, they don't charge them to go there, but it's like all 929 01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:54.680 the developers and everybody else, like they get charged so much just to go 930 01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:59.039 there. Yeah, and you gotta lesson that, make it more open for 931 01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:01.920 them to be able to go to that. And then yes, do make 932 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:09.279 it more repressing like Summer Game Fest and just hey, make it feel like 933 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:14.840 exclusive. Maybe you need to move it out of June. Also, maybe 934 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:18.399 you need to make it not a summer thing, maybe make it a spring 935 01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:23.079 thing. Right, I don't know. The fall obviously is just there's too 936 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.600 much going on and you can't do the end of summer because games comes over 937 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:32.920 it eitherre like maybe it needs to be like a spring thing before Summer games 938 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:38.640 Fest, and it's more of like a preview of the things that are going 939 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.479 to be coming way down the line. And you know, you and and 940 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:47.560 there's a little bit of time between E three and Summer game you just can't 941 01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:53.439 have, especially what Summer Game Fest is where it's not necessarily that whole week 942 01:11:53.560 --> 01:12:00.039 or whatever, and you need to have like space between all these big events. 943 01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:05.479 They cannot be against each other because your force developers have to pick between 944 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:10.079 one or the other. And now some are game fests is more established now. 945 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.479 Some are game fest is the thing that people go and tune in for 946 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.800 it. You want to make E three that again, you have to do 947 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.279 it before and not make it. You're not competing anymore. You need to 948 01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:23.359 just be another big event that's in the industry, but you have the name 949 01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:29.680 E three and then make it more developed for friendly because the thing if you're 950 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.640 gonna still do the same thing that you've been doing. That's the whole reason 951 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:36.239 that people stop doing E three because it costs them too much to do E 952 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.720 three and summer game fests was cheaper and they can still do their digital events 953 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:44.680 and all that stuff that they do. Just E three needs to do that. 954 01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.920 I feel like, I don't know a couple more things where they quick 955 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.479 SIMS five is gonna be free to download because now SIMMS four is free to 956 01:12:51.560 --> 01:13:00.359 play, so you can do exactly exactly. Daytona to USA. It's which 957 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:05.319 is never released here in the US, is possibly gonna appear in the Lack 958 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:10.840 of Dragon Guide end game as Second Racing Classic two. In order I Wou's 959 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.439 right issues, they had to release like a different version of Atona USA on 960 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.000 the Dreamcast two thousand and one, so that's why that never got released. 961 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:23.920 There's always been cool singer games in the USA. Games of four, So 962 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:29.920 are you excited to us over here? But just the arcade, you know 963 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.920 very h you know their arcade yeah, business or whatever. I mean, 964 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.680 it's a shame I won't had that song, but you know it's still be 965 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:45.560 good. Yeah, alright, anything else you wanted to discuss here? Also 966 01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:51.600 that garboles Ht remaster now has a release date. But like that game was 967 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:56.600 asked I thought when I played it as a kid, So yeah, like 968 01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.159 it's one of those like really hard, like that's not even a platform where 969 01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:04.239 it's like a brawler, but the movement is just really wonky. Yeah, 970 01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:10.800 for sure, it's gonna be interesting how that gets received people. At least 971 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:15.840 they're not making the port costa gazillion dollars or whatever. It's the guy. 972 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.720 I think I actually added more maybe more voice work, but I'm not quite 973 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:23.800 sure. Yeah, so that's cool, and I can't like one of the 974 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.119 limited run things as it comes with the Genesis cart which is neat. Yeah. 975 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:30.920 Yeah that's cool too, and it comes with like a clam showcase like 976 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:35.880 the VCR. Yeah as well, was this cool all right, So just 977 01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:41.760 going into games that are coming out this week, I said, Gumbrella comes 978 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:46.159 out, is out today. Is Gravity Oddity as well, which is another 979 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:51.159 cool like indie game that's coming to everything. Gumbrella's only PC and Switch Truachery 980 01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:57.680 and beat Down City Ultra Remix. I know that was Alexavarrows like big game 981 01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:02.239 of the year, Yeah, one year as well. The Pokemon Scarlet Violet 982 01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:06.039 DLC, the first one. The Teal Mass comes out today as well, 983 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:12.199 so I'm sure there's a lot of people to play there. The Baton kaitos 984 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.279 HC Remaster one and two comes out next week or not next week, sorry, 985 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:23.800 tomorrow. The ak Solti also comes out this week as well, tomorrow. 986 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.600 That Dune's Spash Wars game comes out on PC tomorrow. That Monster Hunter 987 01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:33.600 Mobile game comes out tomorrow as well. That Inspector Gadget comes out game comes 988 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:40.960 out tomorrow. Right, Yeah, there's a lot of stuff coming here. 989 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.720 That gloom Haven game comes out on the eighteenth, which looks interesting. Liza 990 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:50.640 Pe and Mortal Kombat one are also out on the same day, even though 991 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.520 I think mortol Kombat one has early access like on the fifth, Like that, 992 01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:01.399 so NASCAR Kade Rush also comes out. That Crew Motor Fast also comes 993 01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.279 out, So a lot of stuff between now and then for you to seek 994 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.479 your teeth into. And Party Animals also we'll be coming out by the time 995 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:14.279 we do a show again, so and that Party Animals can looks so much 996 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:17.680 fun. That's on Game Pass as well, so it's less pete. Yeah, 997 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:20.560 just came out. Turn the reviews to it today, they're all pretty 998 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.239 positive. Pretty positive. Yeah, a lot of people were saying like it 999 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:29.960 might be one of the most fun souls games out there, so that's positive 1000 01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.600 as well. But all right, so hopefully you've enjoyed this episode of the 1001 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:39.199 show. We'll be back this week around this time. If you like, 1002 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:42.359 subscribe, follow you'll find whenever we do a show, whether that's on the 1003 01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:45.239 YouTube channel, over to a network, or just find us on the podcast 1004 01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.279 Video Games to the Max. Go check out our other stuff as well. 1005 01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:53.199 The routes are broadcast Sea Folks out the cake, all that tat to select 1006 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.159 and we'll see you all later. Everybody later.