WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:03.879 Then we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five to seventy LA 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:06.919 Sports. All right, this is the hour we are giving away those sweet 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:11.880 tickets for tonight Dodgers Giants. Will be in the AM five to seventy LA 4 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:15.199 Sports suite at the stadium. So when we give you a queue to call, 5 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:18.320 it's coming up this hour. At some point you gotta be able to 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:21.359 go. Don't call if you can't go to the game tonight, because that 7 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:26.920 does nobody any good. Make sure you can go when you call, and 8 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.519 we'll give you that opportunity. Next hour. David Vass jumps on the show, 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.119 Rodney, and he'll be coming up at about two thirty. Oh all 10 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.039 right, Lakers, nice win, big win, important win, and Lebron 11 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.520 really did have a very good game last night against Brooklyn. Let's bring on 12 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.159 Fox Sports Radio. NBA insider Mark Medina, Mark, thanks for jumping on 13 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.119 today, Fred, thanks as always for having all Right, So, the 14 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:55.640 Lakers nearly blew a twenty six point lead, but Lebron got hot and that 15 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.399 was that. Somehow, some way they hung on. Can you tell me 16 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.120 who the real Kers are? Mark? I think the real Lakers are is 17 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:07.920 that they have a check and Hyde personality. They have games where they beat 18 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.200 up one good opponents, they have games where they give away, and then 19 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.879 games where they will kind of average. So I think, you know, 20 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:18.200 we've clearly gone deep enough into the season that we know that they're going to 21 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:22.879 be consistently inconsistent and we don't know if that roller coaster is going to go 22 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.879 off the rails or lead to a nice ending. But time will tell with 23 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.200 us. Yeah, I believe what they are two games back of the seventh 24 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.719 seed. Now is that where they are? Mark? I believe that they 25 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:37.159 jumped up there or something like that, or eight seeds they are. It's 26 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.959 fluid, but as of now they're one and a half games behind the Kings. 27 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.840 But as you guys know, the Kings have the tiebreaker there right right. 28 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.159 Does it matter for the league? I mean, certainly nobody wants to 29 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.439 be in that play in But who the Lakers play, as we've seen all 30 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.439 season long, like you just mentioned Jackal and Hyde, that they can beat 31 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.560 anybody in the league, but they also can lose to anybody in the league. 32 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.040 Well, I think all these things matter, but it's about how do 33 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.719 we rank the importance. I think no matter what the number one thing will 34 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.159 always be the same thing for every team. Health. I think number two 35 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.319 is going to be momentum. But I think the third part is that seeding 36 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.400 and matchups do matter because for two reasons. One, when you're looking at 37 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:21.840 just the regular season success, they don't have any answer for the Denver Nuggets. 38 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:23.800 They do have an answer for the Oklahoma City Thunder, so that's going 39 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.719 to affect those things. I think the other way that seeding matters is that 40 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.919 if they're a seven to eighth team as opposed to nine to ten, only 41 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:36.680 needing one game to win in a playing tournament, I think can mean a 42 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.120 lot for a team that's riding all Lebron James and Anthony Davis and their injury 43 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.520 history. But no doubt it's still going to be about health as wealth and 44 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.759 play the long game. But the challenging part about playing the long game is 45 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:53.000 they don't really have margin for air with any of these games because every outcome 46 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.680 really significantly assways the standings race with only a few games left in the season. 47 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:01.039 So Gabe Vincent was back last night, played fourteen minutes two points. 48 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.840 Is he going to be a wild card here? Could he be an x 49 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:07.719 factor or mark. Do you think he's missed so much time it'll just be 50 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:13.800 what it'll be. Yeah, I think I think that he can be an 51 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:15.719 X factor. He's not going to be a savior by any means, but 52 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:21.000 I think that he can be a guy that helps with their depth and positional 53 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.879 needs. I think we have to keep in mind this was the biggest Lakers 54 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:29.080 off season signing that they had because of his success with Miami and the fact 55 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.479 that he can plug in so many holes of being a team guy, being 56 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:36.439 a good defender can knock down some three point shots. But I think to 57 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.039 your larger point, he's missed so many games. Is this late in the 58 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:44.039 season. I don't think that he's going to be the difference between, you 59 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:49.759 know, whatever playoff fortunes or misfortunes that they have. But the more body 60 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.719 armor that he can give a Lakers team that is too reliant on Lebron James 61 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.280 and Anthony Davis is a good thing. And I think in the short term, 62 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.719 the fact that he gave productive minutes and didn't look two winded given his 63 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:05.280 lengthy absence, is surely a good sign for these last few games of the 64 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:10.680 season and beyond. Yeah, and Mark Friend, I have chopped this up 65 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.039 throughout the whole season. Like you know, most teams will have, you 66 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.439 know, they have their big two or their big three, but usually two. 67 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.519 And the Lakers with Lebron and a D have been pretty much healthy all 68 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.600 season long, and they've those guys have delivered. I mean A D I 69 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:28.879 don't think gets talked about enough for what he's done this season. But for 70 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.839 as that third guy, it really for the Lakers, it hasn't mattered who 71 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.439 it is. They just need that third guy. Some nights it's you know, 72 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:40.199 it's it's D'Angelo Russell, some Knights is really hotch to Morrow. Some 73 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.120 some nights it's Austin Reeves. Do you feel the same way, It doesn't 74 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.000 really matter who that guy is. It just has to be one of those 75 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.480 guys. Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. It's a question 76 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.519 that I asked Arvin Ham during last playoff run about if he feels like the 77 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:58.560 team has a defensive third option or if it's a composite character, and he 78 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.319 went with the ladder. I think one of the one of the challenges of 79 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.040 this season is that clearly, for the good and the bad, there hasn't 80 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.839 been a definitive third guy, but even through the bad there wasn't a definitive 81 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.720 third option with many options, but I think you know, as of late, 82 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.600 you know they've been able to rely on any combination of D'Angel, Russell, 83 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.680 Ruliatchamora, Austin Reeves gave Vincent could fill in that box now that he's 84 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.199 back, and you know, really all they really need is one or two 85 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.040 of those guys to have a good game on a night tonight basis, and 86 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.959 that can offset maybe the bad games that the other role players have. But 87 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.720 it is an added bonus that if they can have two of those on a 88 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:43.759 nightly basis opposed to just one. And I think that's where they gave Vincent 89 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:48.879 return, can do dividends of just giving those additional reinforcements so they at least 90 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:55.000 have some margin for air, you know, with with the quality opponents and 91 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:59.920 just overall attrition and health. Mark Madina, Fox Sports Radio, NBA ins 92 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.399 with us. Does it just blow your mind watching Lebron at this point? 93 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.920 I mean, I mean, honestly, you covered the Lakers, you've covered 94 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:11.000 the Warriors, You've worked nationally for USA today. You know the league like 95 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.000 the back of your hand. Are you just do you marvel at what he's 96 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.120 been able to do? Yes, without a doubt. I mean, this 97 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:24.040 is unprecedented, literally unprecedent someone at thirty nine years old to not only have 98 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.399 a kind of knight that he had against the Brooklyn Nets with forty points, 99 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.360 but to have a season where it's pretty much on par with his career averages. 100 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.920 And you know, he's not the same player as he was in his 101 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:39.399 prime. You can tell his athleticism isn't the same, He's not having the 102 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.959 same kind of defensive responsibilities that he did. But you know what, for 103 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.519 the lens of he's still an All Star caliber player and still the best guy 104 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.240 on the team. He's still offered enough as far as his scoring, playmaking, 105 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:55.240 and as far as a reference point, I certainly saw Kobe Bryant do 106 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.959 a lot of miraculous things, including that sixty point game in his final game. 107 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.199 But I'm also very well reminded that when I covered Kobe in the latter 108 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:09.079 part of his career, he was dealing with season ending injuries, and so 109 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.120 you weren't seeing the full Kobe Bryant that we actually know and well. You 110 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.600 would only see flashes of it occasionally while he was fighting injuries, and with 111 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:23.600 Lebron you're mostly seeing him play up to his standards at a pretty elite all 112 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.879 star level on a game in game out basis. Yeah, and is it 113 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.560 time just to stop with the you know, Lebron badging and just sit back 114 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.040 and just kind of, as you mentioned, be amazed at what he's able 115 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.800 to do at thirty nine years old. I mean, like you said, 116 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:43.600 we've never seen this and probably won't ever see it again. Yeah. I 117 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:47.000 think clearly with Lebron, the positives that vastly outweigh the negatives. You know, 118 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.800 some of the things that played him as a young player, he's been 119 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.879 able to overcome that with championships and just you know, being able to make 120 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.959 the right play at the right time as far as you know, not always 121 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.079 having to pass, making the clutch shot. He has defied every single conventional 122 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.600 record there is and the fact that he's still doing this and his twenty first 123 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.680 season is astronomical. I mean we're only a year and I think two months 124 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:20.199 for a month and a half removed from him breaking Kareem Abdul Jabar's all time 125 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.519 scoring record, and the fact that he has been able to continuously score at 126 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.920 a prolific pace, and you provide some separation between Lebron and Kareem that makes 127 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.919 me think that, Look, I think this modern era of basketball with high 128 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:39.120 scoring, his record will eventually be broken. But I think that that record 129 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.960 will be intact for a while. And I don't think anyone currently in the 130 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.679 NBA will break it because when you look at some of the most notable examples, 131 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.519 I think, like Kevin Durant, he's number nine on the all time 132 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.279 scoring list, but he's at the latter part of his career. He's handled 133 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:58.600 his own injuries that I think that it's going to take the next generation of 134 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.279 a star to do that. But that's going to require that star to be 135 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.120 able to play for so long to be able to reach Lebron's level that it's 136 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.639 going to take some time. All right, Mark, listen, now shift 137 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.759 over to the Clippers, And I asked you this about the Lakers, all 138 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:18.320 right, Who are the real Clippers. Yeah, it's a good question because 139 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.320 they're check one high personalities for different reasons too. I tend to think that 140 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.480 they're more of the team that we saw midway through the season, where they're 141 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.720 unstoppable one of the best teams in the NBA had a lot of good chemistry 142 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.320 with all their star players. That the team that's been good on the road, 143 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:41.039 not good at home, been soft. In Tylw's words, I do 144 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.080 suspect that when the playoffs turn around or come around, they're gonna flip that 145 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.399 switch. But the problem is, much like the Lakers, they don't have 146 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.480 a margin for air, but for different reasons, they only have a two 147 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:58.240 game cushion over I believe Dallas, for you know, home court advantage in 148 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:03.159 a four or five, New Orleans is not that far behind, and so 149 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.919 I do think that big picture, the Clippers are in a better shape just 150 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.080 health wise, depth wise than the Lakers. You know, they're inconsistent. 151 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.679 If they are inconsistent, that will come back to bite them in the playoffs 152 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.799 because the Western Conference is just so loaded that even a first round matchup against 153 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:26.000 the Dallas team or New Orleans team is going to be challenging. And for 154 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.399 them, Mark, do they got to win it? They got to at 155 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.440 least get to the finals this year. Yeah, it's a fair question. 156 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:39.879 I think that because they've gone through zero championships with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. 157 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:46.320 That would be a reasonable expectation. But I'm not about giving participation trophies. 158 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.799 But I'm willing to give benefit of the doubts. It's still a successful 159 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.799 season if they match up against a Denver Nuggets team in the West Finals, 160 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.320 or you know, they get to the NBA Finals and they just face a 161 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:03.840 fully loaded Celtic's team. Those teams are really good. But it's not so 162 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.240 much if they lose against those teams. It's about how does it look like 163 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.960 if it's a competitive six to seven game series and they lose, well, 164 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:15.559 you know what better team won, But they still had a good season. 165 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:20.039 But if they get dominated and swept or heaven forbid, there's more injury issues 166 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.480 than it would be considered unsuccessful. Hey, Mark, before we let you 167 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.840 go, one more question, do you think Paul George ends up with the 168 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.200 Clippers again next year? I do think so. I mean, technically, 169 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.240 things can always change when you don't put pen to paper when it comes to 170 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.559 contract extensions, but I think the right end of the wall has already been 171 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:45.679 there, that they already committed to Kawhi Leonard. If they're in that mode 172 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.159 of let's try to win now, I don't think that there's a better alternative 173 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:54.159 than not keeping Paul George. The look, things can always change, and 174 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.399 you know, we'll see if the playoffs are an indicator of that. But 175 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.480 even if you know, the Clippers fall up short, I would be very 176 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.799 surprised if he winds up elsewhere. I think it's just a matter of finding 177 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.159 what the right price would be for both sides and then agreeing to a deal 178 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.600 with that. All right, Always good to talk to you, Mark, 179 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:16.000 Thanks for coming on. Likewise, thanks for having me as always. All 180 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.720 right, Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina joining the program. All right, 181 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.960 we still have the sweet tickets to give away, not yet, not 182 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:28.799 yet. Everybody's settled down. I don't call yet, not yet, but 183 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:35.240 soon. Oh and when we come back. Rodney was right. Oh and 184 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.279 I got duked by an April Fool's joke. Oh yeah, we'll talk about 185 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:43.240 it. Let's go keep it moving on a Monday right to beat fitt Rogan. 186 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.759 Yes, we got a jam pack, fully loaded show and we're still 187 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.639 going fiddy. Let's go. All right, A couple of things I want 188 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.039 to get to here. First. I got April Fool today, you know, 189 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.080 t April Fool's Day. I'm not a big prank guy, but I 190 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.720 bought something I should a bought. So in our house, there's a joke 191 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:07.039 about Jane Sterotor. Of course, he worked nt DOUAA basketball for years as 192 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.639 an official, and he was a referee in the NFL. Rodney, was 193 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:11.960 he working when you played? Yes, he was. Yes. He was 194 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.519 seemed like a pretty pleasant guy, very very good guy, very good guy, 195 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.720 always fair. He's what I remember. I always talked about officials you 196 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.600 can talk to in certain ways. They didn't want to hear from you and 197 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.440 if you were complaining, but Gene was always have a conversation with you about 198 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.759 why he called something or why this was a penalty or what he was doing, 199 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.279 so that I always respected him. Yeah. So Jane Sterotor, uh. 200 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.360 Of course now works for CBS and when they have a call during an 201 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:46.399 NFL game, their NFL official is Jeane Sterotor. But during NTUAA basketball, 202 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.840 because he also worked the nc double A, it's Jane Sterotor. So we're 203 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:56.000 sitting at the house and we're watching the tournament, and Kevin Harland goes, 204 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.720 all right, let's let's check out with Jane Sterotor. My son Josh is 205 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.759 sitting there and he goes, who is this guy, king ref? He's 206 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:09.240 everywhere, He's the football ref, he's the NCAA. Is he king Ref? 207 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:11.200 Is that who he is? And I started laughing. I said, 208 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:16.279 yeah, Jeane's probably king Ref. So Jeans said out a tweet today, 209 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.120 and I love officials. I mean, I'm a geek. I like the 210 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:26.840 officials. And he said, I'm returning back to the field. I thought, 211 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.799 oh my god, they've called Gene out of retirement. He's going back. 212 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.639 The NFL wants Gene. And then I thought, wait a minute, 213 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:41.399 that never happens. When you go, you're gone. They don't welcome you 214 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.919 back. They replace you, and they bring younger people in to keep the 215 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:52.919 pipeline going. It was an April fool's joke. Oh Gene, he's His 216 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.600 tweet was an April fool's joke. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of 217 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:58.559 hours ago, this is what he tweeted, with a photo of himself refereeing 218 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:03.519 the super from some years ago, excited to announce I'll be returning to the 219 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.519 field this season. You can only keep those zebra stripes off of me for 220 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.159 so long. Hashtag Let's go, followed by about forty five minutes ago after 221 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:16.440 review the press box last Studio food is two good people with a picture of 222 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.200 April first a calendar. I thought you might have reached out to him and 223 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:26.320 say congratulations getting back out there. Huh Oh that would have been even better 224 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.960 if you How embarrassing would that have been? Yeah? You know, I 225 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.600 have a few officials numbers. I'm thankfully I didn't have his, But Kevin, 226 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:35.240 I'm glad. I'm glad this happened. I think we should try to 227 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.360 get him on the show. Sure, there you go, I do. 228 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.960 And I think CBS would let him do it too, because he is. 229 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.919 If Dean Blandino goes on radio hits all the time for Fox, I'm sure 230 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.960 it's gene to do it. Yeah, see winget Gene. Because Jim would 231 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.000 be a good one. It seems like Rodney's got a great personality. He 232 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.200 does, he really does. I'll work on that. I'll see if I 233 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.960 can do that. Yeah, Okay, other thing we want to attend to 234 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.480 now. When you're right, you're right, you must receive credit, and 235 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:08.720 Rodney, you get credit. Okay, you are right. Oh? Oh, 236 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:14.320 last week you told us Andy Enfield was leaving USC to become the basketball 237 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.960 coach at SMU. Yes, I did. You told us this before anybody 238 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.960 even mentioned it. Then a report came out and said he was one of 239 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.600 their top choices. You went on the air and said, I guess he 240 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:30.639 is a top choice because that deal's done. He's going. Yeah, today 241 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.639 they announced it. SMU hired Andy Enfield. It's done. Wow. I 242 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.759 was sweating there for a minute for it. I was sweating there that I 243 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:44.039 put out some misinformation that it wasn't going to be done. But no, 244 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.120 yeah, listen, Andy did a great job for USC. You know, 245 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.919 took the program to a different level. The program was dormant for a while 246 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.159 and he came in and really did a good job. Didn't get it over 247 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.879 the top, and you know, I know, over the top is getting 248 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:03.839 to final fours and possibly win in a title. But he put USC in 249 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:07.839 the conversation and and we're and during his tenure, they were able to bring 250 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.920 in some really top not recruits and players, and but I think, you 251 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:17.519 know, at this time it was time for him to move on and and 252 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:19.880 move on to a place that's got deep, deep pockets too. And he 253 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.680 pointed that out. Yeah, I got deep, deep pockets. I think 254 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:30.880 La I mean SMU and all especially football and basketball are really focused and Eric 255 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.400 can talk about this, Eric Dickerson that they are focused on getting back into 256 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:38.720 that conversation and they're gonna do whatever it takes. So what was the deal 257 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:42.839 with Enfield? His deal was up after this year? His deal was up 258 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.480 after uh yeah, after this year, I believe, And so there was 259 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.319 an extension involved and and then then it became a buyout involved buyout situation and 260 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.000 what that buyout number was and you know, so that was I think part 261 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:02.599 of the delay since the time at that I reported on it, is how 262 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.920 the buyout was going to work itself out, and apparently it did, and 263 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.400 he's got an extension. Now I think I don't know what the deal is, 264 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.839 but I know it's like what a five year deal. I think he's 265 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.720 something like that and he's fifty five, so I think he's looking at it. 266 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.000 Hey, this might be my last job, so let me go do 267 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.000 this. And I think there was questions of whether or not USC was going 268 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.240 to extend him that long. Yeah, And that's what I was going to 269 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.720 ask you, because you have gen Cone now as the athletic director, and 270 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:33.200 she's trying to get her feet wet, she's trying to get settled, and 271 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.960 so that would be her first big hire because she inherited Lincoln Riley, right, 272 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.599 So the basketball program would be the thing she could focus on now. 273 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:47.400 And if he wasn't convinced that they were going to extend him at this point, 274 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.400 then he probably did the best thing he could. Because they're going to 275 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.039 the Big Ten next year. We don't know how they're going to fare. 276 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.240 And you have to believe if he goes to the Big Ten and just gets 277 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:02.200 it handed to him, why would extend him? Andy, Thank you, 278 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:06.759 You're not my guy. That's how business works. I want my guy. 279 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:08.640 Yeah, it's a whole different world, right, going to the Big Ten, 280 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.599 especially in basketball, I mean, Calipari has founding it out. Now. 281 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:18.359 You can't win. It's very difficult to win when you're trying to put 282 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.279 together a whole new team every single year, and that whole new team is 283 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:26.039 built up a freshman, you know, eighteen nineteen year old kids, and 284 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.839 you're trying to go out and play against a Yukon, a Gonzaga, you 285 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.000 know, Villanova's of the world, Kansas of the world, that's got kids 286 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.960 that are juniors and seniors, it's very difficult to do that. So you 287 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:41.039 have to be very active in the portal and hopefully you can retain some of 288 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.640 the kids for a few years instead of you know, being one and donner. 289 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.200 So it's a difficult, difficult landscape. And like you said, moving 290 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.079 to the Big ten, it's going to be more competitive. Although the Pact 291 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.640 was very competitive this year, it's going to be some challenges. And again, 292 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.799 if you're looking at this selfishly, if you're and he say, okay, 293 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:07.039 I can have five years guaranteed to me coming, do I go or 294 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:08.920 do I stay and hopefully we have a good year and now I get an 295 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:15.400 extension here at USC that it's almost like a no brainer. So and I 296 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.000 know he loves it here, is no ill feelings or bad will or anything 297 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.079 like that. He loves it here, obviously, how can he not. 298 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:26.640 I think he lives in Manhattan Beach and loves the place he's gotten. They 299 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.359 took care of him here at USC when he first got here, so and 300 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.079 you know he'll probably retire after here, after his days at SMU, But 301 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.240 at this point in time, I think it was he was looking out for 302 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.079 the best thing for him and his family. You know, you point out 303 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.759 how different things are. John Calipari trying to build with these young guys and 304 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:47.359 develop them for the NBA, and that's his pitch. You come here, 305 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.000 tell you what, look at my track record of putting people in the NBA. 306 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.599 Right, But it really comes down to this, what is your job 307 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:57.920 as the head basketball coach at a university? And that's why. And I 308 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.160 know you guys disagree with me. When I see, uh, the NCAA 309 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:06.599 supports student athletes or whatever that thing is on the court, I'm thinking to 310 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:11.759 myself, these people are athlete students at this level. The portal build through 311 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.759 the portal. Don't tell me that's a student. Tell me that's somebody that's 312 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.200 going somewhere where they have the best chance to play. That's what that is. 313 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:22.680 It's not the old ra ra days when you were recruited, Rodney and 314 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:29.440 you know, listen to us, Well, here's what it applies to. 315 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.160 And if we really break it down, Granted, it's not women's sports, 316 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.319 I understand, although they have a portal and they have nils, but not 317 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:41.000 to the degree in men nine. The sign right, what I'm saying is 318 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:48.240 what I'm saying is in big time basketball and football. In collegiate sports, 319 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.680 these kids are athlete students. It's not that they commit to a school if 320 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:59.079 you are going to be one of those athletes because they've always dreamed of going 321 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.440 there. No, they go where they have the opportunity to play. Division 322 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.480 three is different. We had Russell White on from Cal Lutheran. Jack played 323 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.000 at Chapman. As he points out, it's the only place Division three where 324 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:15.440 you pay to play. You want to go to that school and you want 325 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:21.960 to play. That's the only place in NCUBA sports because Division one and Division 326 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:23.799 two they all have an eye out. I mean, I don't know what 327 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.000 you could make in Cal State San Bernardino. We had the coach on, 328 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:33.359 But you can make something if it's available to you in Division two. So 329 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:40.000 I just I'm so tired of the nc double. Ah. Why because they've 330 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:45.799 lost student athletes? Why can't you be fred there is two? If not 331 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:51.160 maybe if there is a little bit more than that percent it is, but 332 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:57.200 majority of the players on a football team are not going pro. Correct, 333 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:02.440 they're not going pro. They all tournament. In this tournament, there may 334 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:07.559 be one or two, two guys, maybe tops three guys that are going 335 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.720 to the NBA. So Brodney Rodney about that. They're the majority of that 336 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:18.640 team art student athletes. They're hired guns. Look at Nick Cronin at the 337 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.400 sixth man, the seventh man, to eighth man, the ninth man, 338 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.960 the tenth man. I'm not even talking about going to I'm not talking about 339 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:27.960 going to the NBA. I'm not talking about going to the ng They're going 340 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:33.799 to They're going to school there though. Yeah, but they're getting They are 341 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.799 going there because perhaps they received a scholarship. But moreover, they can they 342 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.519 can all be paid. And if the sixth man is sitting on the bench 343 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:47.880 and said, you know what, I just got a call from Wichita State 344 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:53.480 and I'm going to be their starting power forward, I'm going I'm going. 345 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.720 I'm not sitting here like this. If it was all about the school, 346 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.039 the athletes would not go. They would go to that school. They would 347 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.680 say, you know something, I wanted to go to UCLA and I'm going 348 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:12.000 to go four years here and complete my education here or however many in case 349 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:17.880 they go pro But they don't say that. They say I'm going to and 350 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.240 I'm getting out of here. I agree with you. For a small percentage 351 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.720 of those players. But for a majority of those players, it is about 352 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:29.440 going to going to Texas and getting my degree or going to USC and then 353 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:33.640 figuring out how that relationship at USC is going to further my life and get 354 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.599 me a job when I get out of college. You know. But yes, 355 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.319 those those three or four players on the basketball team could go to the 356 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.839 NBA or go get into the portal and go somewhere else to play. But 357 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.880 for the majority of those kids playing in these tournaments right now, they are 358 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:53.359 going to try to do something with the degree that they got from that particular 359 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.519 school. Yes, there are there are one and Donners and NBA guys and 360 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:02.000 get aspirations from majority. Your team is not the same thing. On the 361 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.480 football team. There may be ten guys that go play in the NFL off 362 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:08.960 big time college programs. The rest of them, what are they? What 363 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.599 are they doing? What I'm saying ninety five guys on that team on the 364 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:18.319 sidelines of a college football game, right what are the eighty five of them 365 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:25.640 doing? Okay, So if you're the backup right tackle, but you think 366 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.359 you can play, and you've sat behind a guy all year now because you 367 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:33.079 know either you didn't you couldn't beat him out. Coaches made a decision. 368 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.519 Are you in your Are you in year one? Are you in year four? 369 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.359 I'm saying you're your year one? Okay, all right, you're in 370 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:45.480 year one. If you're in year one and you get a call from Arizona 371 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.240 Jet Fish, come on down, you're gonna play for us? Yes you're 372 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:57.200 gone, Yes you're gone. You know that you're gone. My point is 373 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:03.400 the NCAA has been neutered. The model doesn't work. Why they still are 374 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.920 even mentioned is ridiculous. How every school is not just cut the cord from 375 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:10.440 the NCAA. I don't know, That's what I'm saying. I don't understand 376 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.400 how that happens at all. Well, why they still are even relevant to 377 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.000 anything? Yeah, I mean I get what you're saying. Let's be real 378 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:19.599 about it, right, you go to Kentucky. You're not going there for 379 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:25.200 four years of Kentucky and I love the bluegrass and I love Kentucky bourbon, 380 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.680 and I want to study how to mix bourbon in Kentucky and I'm gonna learn 381 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.480 that at the university. No, No, you're going to Kentucky play for 382 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.359 cal Party because you got aspirations of going to the NBA, and this is 383 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.400 a great pipeline. But there are also a number of kids that go there 384 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.400 because the relationships and the and the branding of Kentucky and what it's gonna do 385 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.319 for me if I if I enhance my college experience, get a degree in 386 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:55.559 a particular industry, and Kentucky's loaded with people that know how to mix whiskey 387 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.319 right, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go major in that or sports marketing, 388 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.519 know, whatever may be. That's what I'm going to major in. Because 389 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.480 this carries a lot of weight. I go to USC because it carries a 390 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.799 lot of weight with relationships and things that it can do for me after school. 391 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.000 I may not ever go to the NBA or the NFL or anything like 392 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.519 that. So there is some value of going to school. And so I 393 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.759 don't get caught up into the semantics of student athlete athletes student. I think 394 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:26.359 it's a specialized and individual thing. Yes, kids that absolutely don't even go 395 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.400 to class, you know. And I'm here for this one semester and it's 396 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.880 all I'm out and I don't need to get good grades because I'm going right 397 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.680 to the NBA. But there are a number of kids the majority of them 398 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.319 that won't, and so what do we call them? All right, well, 399 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.160 let me ask you this then, So if you look at the model 400 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.759 that we're talking about, the portal, building through the portal, and Yukon 401 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.119 is so very good. I mean, I can't see Yukon losing the national 402 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.519 championship this year and some of those guys came from the portal. What is 403 00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:00.240 your obligation as a college basketball coach? What is it? What is your 404 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.920 job? Are you to win and put people in the seats? I don't 405 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.319 know anymore. I don't know anymore. Well, here's what I think. 406 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:14.440 I think if you are the coach at a college or university, your goal 407 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.480 is to win. So that might mean that might mean I'm not gonna go 408 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.599 after the top high school kids in the country one and done's But what I'm 409 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.720 gonna do is go to the portal and find guys with two years of experience, 410 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.480 we're more physically and mentally developed, and bring them in and win. 411 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.759 I don't need the top gun. You're gonna turn down the number two, 412 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.200 three, four player in the country coming out of high school? Well, 413 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.839 I don't know, You're gonna have one year he wants to come to Kentucky. 414 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.200 He wants to play at Kentucky, and you say no, Now, 415 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.799 we're more looking for that kid that can that's gonna stay here four years. 416 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.160 That's no guy we want. We're more. We're more looking for a kid 417 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.119 that's gonna help me win. My job is not to get you to the 418 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.400 ABA recruiting. You don't think that kid who six' ten plays like a 419 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.079 guard Anthony Davis. I'm not gonna recruit him out of Chicago because, yeah, 420 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.759 he may be won and done. So let's stay away from that guy. 421 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.440 Okay, would you rather would you rather you didn't answer the question? 422 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.279 Well, let me I'm gonna answer like this. Would you rather, if 423 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.960 you're the coach of the team, be John Caliperry go with these young guys 424 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.960 with the expectation because the pressure is on in Kentucky that you need to win 425 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:33.960 a title. Or would you rather get guys with a little experience, bigger, 426 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.759 stronger that really have a chance to win? And maybe these guys don't 427 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:44.279 capture the headlines during the regular season as the six to ten guy who can 428 00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.279 dribble between his legs and spin the ball off the top of his head and 429 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:52.200 dunk upside down. But maybe this group of guys, bigger, stronger, 430 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:59.799 more mature can win a title. I think it's a philosophical question on how 431 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.039 you build your program. And I think if I'm coaching in college today, 432 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:10.039 that's how Because of the portal, there's no more development in building programs. 433 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.039 No, but I mean you have to have a philosophy of what you're going 434 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.880 to do. I think the goal of a college coach is to win. 435 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.359 That's their goal, that's their job. Guys that don't win get fired. 436 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.720 Correct And if you're at a school like a Kansas or a Kentucky or North 437 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.920 Carolina or a Duke, and everything has to go your way, but you've 438 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.720 got to get to the final four every couple of years. You've got to 439 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.039 be there at schools like that, or you lose your job. So if 440 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.279 the best way to get there is with kids that have some experience and are 441 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:49.240 bigger and stronger, I think my philosophy in running the program would be that, 442 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.920 I think, sure, guys, wait wait, wait, wait, 443 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.640 so your philosophy is to go steal a kid from another school. If the 444 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.359 portal is available to me and I can find guys that can playing, I 445 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.759 think I would do that portal is available, Well, then I think I 446 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.640 would do that. I say, if the portal is available, I think 447 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.880 what you do is you do that kid coming in that you're recruiting. You're 448 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.359 basically he's gonna be a one and done two otherwise you wouldn't bring him into 449 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.519 your school. Well, you then you have got experience. So he's already 450 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.519 played a year or two and somewhere else, and you're bringing them in to 451 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.400 help you win right now. But I don't know if those guys are NBA 452 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.440 guys. If they're there two years, I don't know if they're there if 453 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.960 they enter their third year. They may be great college play, but he's 454 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.920 not. He's not coming to you. He's not coming to you in the 455 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.759 portal, especially if you're recruiting him. Had out of the portal, because 456 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.039 he's got to be pretty good to go to Kentucky or to Kansas that you 457 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.119 say, Okay, I'm gonna recruit you out of this portal. You're gonna 458 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.559 be here for the next three years for me or now years for me. 459 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.200 No, No, you're not doing that. Those guys are coming because I'm 460 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:59.319 going to Kentucky. We're gonna be in the conversation, and this is my 461 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:04.279 ticket avenue to the NBA. When you weren't playing it at USC, if 462 00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.279 the portal existed, now you had a sparkling career. So maybe it's unfair 463 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:13.559 to ask the question. But when you were there, and let's say you 464 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.880 weren't playing all right, hard to imagine, but you weren't and you got 465 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:23.319 a call from another school considered a very good school, Oklahoma, I'm making 466 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.000 it up and I said, you are going to play here. The job 467 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:35.759 is yours right now, would you go? He said? If I was 468 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:39.440 in the portal and the first year USC, you're sitting behind somebody, you 469 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:44.000 got no shot. In other words, you get there and realize I'm not 470 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.759 gonna play. Three guys are gonna have to break their leg for me to 471 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.319 go in the game. Not for me, because the situation for me was 472 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.920 lined up for me to play early. So but I'm saying, I'm saying 473 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.079 so that maybe that's why it's unfair. But if we but up to your 474 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.759 point there there are were people that were in similar sity. So this was 475 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.000 let me give you, let me answer this. So when I got to 476 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.839 USC, Sean Salisbury was a quarterback he was a senior, all right. 477 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.519 He was a senior, had played there, had some injuries up and down 478 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.279 whatever. I was a freshman coming in and knew they were very upfront, 479 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.880 we're gonna red shirt you your freshman year, you're not gonna play. We're 480 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.799 gonna red shirt. Now, that's that used to be the thing to do 481 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.039 back, you know, when I played, if you weren't gonna play, 482 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.519 and it was looked like it was if if it was fifty to fifty, 483 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.039 they usually tried to red shirt you and so they could build and get you 484 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.440 some experience, get you acclimated to college and all those things. So I 485 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.240 knew I was gonna red shirt, but I felt that second year I was 486 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.559 gonna play. I was gonna have an opportunity to start. Had I not 487 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:51.119 won that job, then yeah, I might have went into the portal because 488 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.279 there were people that that I beat out that were one year ahead of me. 489 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.160 You know. There was a quarterback named Kevin McLain, very good quarterback 490 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.079 out of the Long Beach you played at I think Lakewood. Very He could 491 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.320 have played anywhere too, but he had to sit behind me for three years 492 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.519 at USC, where he could have gone somewhere and played and actually played, 493 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.360 and he didn't do that. My college roommate, you know, could have 494 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:22.199 probably gone somewhere and played. He was a tight end and probably would have 495 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:28.360 left if it was more accessible or accessible like it is today. But but 496 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.480 yeah, certainly I would have waited all those options and been gone had I 497 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:36.199 not won that job my technically my red shirt sophomore year or freshman year, 498 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.440 Yeah, i'd have been got so first they said we don't want to be 499 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:45.159 here, we're done. Then they were told, well, why don't you 500 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:51.760 reconsider maybe you should stay. Now they're trying to work out a short term 501 00:34:51.880 --> 00:35:00.119 lease. We'll explain. Come on, come on, come on, oh, 502 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.159 come on, it's a beautiful Monday. Yes, the hated ones are 503 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.440 in town, frid the hated ones are in town, and they don't want 504 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.280 any part of this new look Dodger t And somebody needs to go see that 505 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.119 game tonight. Let's give the tickets away. Eight six six nine eighty seven 506 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.079 two five seventy. We have a pair of tickets for the sweet at Dodger 507 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.360 Stadium tonight. Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Rodney would 508 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.440 call her number seven, call her seven. Go ahead, fire it up, 509 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.280 good luck. Hope you get out there tonight. Uh. Paxton pitches 510 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.599 for the Dodgers tonight, he'll make his season debut. Yeah, come on, 511 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.920 Paxston, he'll be on the hill all right. So the Oakland A's 512 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.519 are just a complete mess. They are a mess. Uh. You know, 513 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.679 they want to leave and they're going to Las Vegas. They have approval, 514 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.199 they're gonna blow up the hotel on the grounds where they're gonna build a 515 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.599 stadium and let's go to work. So they're going. But then the mayor 516 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.280 of Las Vegas comes out and says, we're gonna be honest with you. 517 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.719 You know, I've looked at and maybe you guys should stay where you're at. 518 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:06.920 Then the City of Oakland says, well, you know what, these 519 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.599 guys just screwed us. They didn't play ball with us. They were deceptive. 520 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.119 We would have given them what they had in Vegas, but they asked 521 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.639 her so much more here. And because of that, you know, we 522 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:22.559 don't care. First of all, the City of Oakland and all of these 523 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.840 negotiations. When you deal in Rodney, you did it with the Raiders. 524 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.679 When you deal up there, you're dealing with three different municipalities, and that's 525 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.239 the problem. You're not just dealing with the city of Oakland. Everybody's got 526 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.400 to come together on this thing, and they never do, and they're going 527 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.039 to lose all their teams. They lost the NBA bata the city of Oakland. 528 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:44.360 Yeah, it's a mess, right, So they lost the NBA back 529 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:49.400 to San Francisco, they lost the NFL to Vegas, and they will lose 530 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:53.199 their baseball team all right because they're not going back to that garbage dump in 531 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.639 Oakland. Is that should be condemned. That stadium, it's awful anyway. 532 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.920 Now the problem is the new stadium for them in Vegas, where they kind 533 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.280 of are wanted but not really. That's not going to be ready to twenty 534 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.320 twenty eight. So now they need to figure out a place to play. 535 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:15.679 Wait a minute, you said twenty twenty eight. Yeah, you said twenty 536 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:20.440 twenty eight. Yeah, I believe I did. Yeah, So now they 537 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.119 need to figure out a place to play because they have no place to play. 538 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.239 I mean, they're not in Oakland. Vegas won't be ready. So 539 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.760 then they're kicking around. Maybe we'll play in Sacramento, maybe we'll play in 540 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.599 Vegas. In this little team at the stadium. Did you see the crowd 541 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.840 at Oakland A's opening weekend? If there it's awful, Why would anybody spend 542 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.559 any money to go watch that. I mean, it's like you have some 543 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.840 sort of sick wish. I feel bad for the players. I feel bad 544 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.480 for the players. I feel bad for the fans. That stadium is rubbish. 545 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.679 Better crowds at spring training at Huhoakum. Probably she'd go play there. 546 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.280 Yeah, listen, at least they could fill it for two thousand people exactly. 547 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.559 So now the question becomes where are they going to play? So then 548 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.599 they decide, you know, maybe we'll stay in Oakland. Maybe that'll be 549 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.079 the plan for us. We'll stay in Oakland until the new stadium in Vegas 550 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.400 is built, which to me is the most asinine thing I've ever heard, 551 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.920 because people already have given up on them in Oakland. So we're just gonna 552 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:29.119 sit in Oakland. No fans are gonna show up. We're just gonna sit 553 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.119 here, all right. So the city of Oakland named Duck team in Oakland 554 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.119 where nobody wants to go see him play? Right, nobody's going now, 555 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:37.719 So the city of Oakland says, okay, if that's what you want, 556 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.800 we got a plan, got a plan. I think they We're paying a 557 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.000 million and a half dollars a year to rent the Oakland Coliseum. And that 558 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.639 was probably a million, four hundred and ninety nine thousand dollars too many, 559 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:57.079 right, but that was it. So they had a sweet deal there. 560 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.920 So the city says, all right, look, if fact you guys need 561 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.679 a place to play, you know, we have this wonderful facility here that's 562 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.840 available to you. It's only going to cost you ninety seven million dollars. 563 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.280 You pay US ninety seven million dollars. And by the way, if you 564 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:22.639 leave, no total total and if you pay US ninety seven million. Let's 565 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.199 say it's a five year deal, but if you leave in year three, 566 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.599 if you leave in year three, it's still ninety seven million. All in, 567 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.599 give me ninety seven million. Just sit here for five years whatever, 568 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.840 leaving two years, leaving five, it's up to you. But it costs 569 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.960 ninety seven million dollars. Why would the A's even consider something like that, 570 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.480 Why would they even contemplate that for one second? They have destroyed the brand 571 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.159 in Oakland. People don't want to go to the games. The stadium is 572 00:39:54.199 --> 00:40:00.039 a total dump. The players are probably miserable. They have no, you 573 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:06.639 know, zero chance to win anything anything. I'd be curious to find out 574 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.199 what kind of hotels they travel to on the road. They might be Best 575 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.480 Westerns. Nothing wrong with that. If that's where you go. Who owned 576 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.639 the A's. The family owns the A's, right, I forget which family. 577 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.719 It's like I can't remember the guy's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 578 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:29.119 yeah, yeah. I mean why would they stay in Oakland? I 579 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.880 would get out of there so fast your head would spin. Yeah. Play 580 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.920 in Reno, somewhere in Nevada, play anywhere. Get out of there. 581 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:45.440 You can't make money there, that's for sure. But but you do have 582 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.960 a TV deal, a local TV deal with NBC's regional networks. So if 583 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.840 you could confirm, because people in the Bay Area are probably clamoring to watch 584 00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.599 this magnificent team, the A's, that BC would still pay you a rights 585 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.519 fee. If your games were in Sacramento, I would get the hell out 586 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:09.360 of there. And a heartbeat and a heartbeat. Why are they even messing 587 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:19.119 around with this? I mean, you're leaving You're yeah, you're leaving the 588 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.199 city. You don't have fans already, No, one's showing up to the 589 00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:31.440 games. What advantage do you have by staying there and playing another season at 590 00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:37.760 the very where two three she didn't even play there another month. It should 591 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.519 back up and get up out of there. You know what's interesting to me? 592 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:46.639 You know what this is sort of like, so Rodney, we decided, 593 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.840 or someone has decided, not us, someone's decided. They are leaving 594 00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:57.280 their wife. They're out, they're going, and they're going because they have 595 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:01.599 this new girlfriend. They're leaving their wife and they're moving in with a girlfriend. 596 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.480 That's it. They're out. They've made the announcement. They leave the 597 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.719 house. They get to the girlfriend's house. The girlfriend says, listen, 598 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.599 I thought about this, and uh, I think maybe you should go back. 599 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.000 They should go back, signed, you know, and he decided you 600 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.119 leave it right, We're done, honey, but you should go back. 601 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.840 So then you turn around and you go, well, geez, I gotta 602 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:36.119 go somewhere. I'm gonna go back. I'll go back. You go back, 603 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.079 and you tell your wife, well I'm back, and she goes, 604 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.000 you're back. You just left. You can't come back, all right? 605 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.840 Fine? You know I've been married to you for a number of years and 606 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.039 obviously it didn't work out. I'm not gonna be cruel. You can just 607 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:58.639 live here and never talk to me again. There's one room, not it's 608 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.760 my house now, by the way, you gave it to me. But 609 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.440 we have a little room outside in the garage, and you can go there. 610 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.239 Don't come in the house and don't talk to me, but you can 611 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.960 go there. That's where you will be and no one is going to talk 612 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.039 to you ever. And the place you're living it is such a dump. 613 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.800 When it rains, it leaks, there's no air conditioning or heating. But 614 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.480 you go ahead, you can stay there. Who would do that? Who 615 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.960 in the right mind would do that? And this AM's move is kind of 616 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:35.559 like that when you really think about it. This is major league baseball we're 617 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.920 talking about, right, Yeah, I think so. Well. No, 618 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.679 not not in Obland. No, we're not talking about major League baseball in 619 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:49.280 Oakland. Hey, Kevin, who wanted the tickets? Who wanted the tickets? 620 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:58.840 Kevin? Do we know running Chris Chris? Yes, Chris Chris played 621 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.440 the game earlier? No different? Oh, okay, So Chris and Whittier, 622 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:06.920 congratulations you are going to the game tonight. Dodgers and Giants, and 623 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:12.039 of course download the free iHeartRadio app, put in your earphone and listen to 624 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.320 the game while you'll watch it. Nothing better than that you'll hear the words 625 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:21.360 to the melody. Have the app, watch the game, and have a 626 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.559 great time. Tonight, David Vassa will join us later this hour, and 627 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.599 up next we'll have some spirituality with Vic. Yes