WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:08.080 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine hileco. 2 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:12.560 As parents and parenting writers, we can't help but see everything through a parenting 3 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:17.079 lens. But as our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested 4 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:21.000 in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm going over the same parenting 5 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:26.160 topics over and over. So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom 6 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.160 anywhere, we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we thought about 7 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.439 it, and maybe what we can learn from it, if only what not 8 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.399 to do. Watch and listen along, and let's all make like we're doing 9 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:42.439 something important for our families. Each Tuesday we bring you our thoughts on a 10 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:47.079 newer entertainment property, and for this week of July fifteenth, we're continuing with 11 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:53.039 A Gentleman in Moscow, which is a limited series on Paramount Plus. This 12 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:59.840 was episode two, called an Invitation. I found there were several some threat 13 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:08.200 some I'm not in this case, yeah, we get you know more certainly 14 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:14.040 of Anna Orbanova, the actress, who have we seen her at all in 15 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.599 the first episode? Was she not in the first episode with the dogs? 16 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.719 I don't think she was, but perhaps Okay, I just no, You're 17 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:25.640 probably right. I probably just mixed up when we saw her. But yeah, 18 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:30.840 she makes quite an entrance with her unruly animals. By the way, 19 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.879 A small note, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, who plays that role, is married 20 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:41.560 to you and McGregor. So oh did not two years connect one child? 21 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.040 Thank you? IMDb? Okay, cool, I actually saw that in an 22 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.719 article and I don't remember what was the source of the article. Who was 23 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:52.840 saying celebrity couple together in TV show? And I'm like, okay, I 24 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:57.400 did not. Maybe you saw that at the dentist's office on it on the 25 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:07.519 gossip te chance it could be anyway, she was very enjoyable in that part. 26 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:12.080 Yes, she made quite an impression. Oh, they made an impression 27 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.879 on each other. I was right, they did the count and Anna, 28 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:21.680 Yes, although also made an impression on Nina that was not good. Do 29 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.639 not. Didn't you a little friend for sax Man? Come on, completely 30 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.840 understandable. I know what You've been cooped up there for a long time with 31 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:37.080 no companionship, but still you have a prior commitment, and a gentleman, 32 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:42.680 yes, would honor his prior commit Absolutely would. Yes, but he did 33 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.759 apologize and she seemed to accept his apology, and by the end of the 34 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.879 episode we had to say goodbye to Need. I'm very sad. I had 35 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:57.960 assumed that Nina would be a motif throughout this thing and would be his little 36 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.039 buddy all through. I am very sad to say goodbye to her in two 37 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:07.080 episodes. Well just remember, let's ask you if she comes back this this 38 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:15.560 this eight episodes covers something like forty years, like a long period of times, 39 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.680 so he will have other friends, all right, But yes, when 40 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:25.719 when she left, it was very it was very sad. Yes. So 41 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.960 do we think that this mini series is going to encompass the entire book? 42 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.960 Would you say, At the pace it's going, it looks like it's going 43 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.080 to be the entire book. I think so, yes, Because when I 44 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:43.120 was going into on demand to watch this, it is referring to it as 45 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.479 season one. Oh interesting, And I find that confusing because when a will 46 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:53.280 write another book quick, quick, quick, we need to see the Yeah, 47 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.080 unless that's just a quirk of how it's present is just a quirk of 48 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.639 the way things are, because it's it's been it's being presented as a limited 49 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.960 series, which I would assume would mean you get these episodes and you get 50 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:08.719 no more, and probably you're right, the computer just puts season one in 51 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.960 front of things. But on the other hand, I suppose they're keeping their 52 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:16.560 options open. It's well, I mean, they could do the whole big 53 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.399 Little Lies thing, or you know, or Game of Thrones where they just 54 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:28.439 keep making up stuff after the bird ends. But given that the author is 55 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.680 the executive producer, right, and is such a complete story, Yes, 56 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:39.319 that's what worries me is when things take off and then it's it's a complete 57 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:43.439 story. But but there could be more, Right, there could be more. 58 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:49.000 We could just change the ending and there could be more. Yeah, 59 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:56.000 I hope not. I mean, given how hard it is to find this 60 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.439 and watch it, that's true, Maybe it won't take off in such a 61 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:08.079 way that they feel like they have to do yess as was the as we 62 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:15.360 will discuss tomorrow as complications of lost Yes, in terms of a story becoming 63 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:25.560 uncomfortably open ended to do money. But yeah, I wonder anyway, I 64 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:30.480 mean, this episode was really pretty action packed for a guy who's yeah I 65 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.920 was stuck in a hotel, right, I mean, he got into a 66 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:41.639 fistfight, he encountered his jailor he got it on with a famous actress. 67 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.920 He went up to the roof. Yeah, first he expanded his living quarters. 68 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.360 Oh yeah, I was waiting for that. I was surprised that it 69 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:58.879 didn't happen in the first one. Yeah, that whole really fun. You 70 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:02.120 know the dream that people people have of like you suddenly discover that your home 71 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:06.680 has another room, and it happens. It happens to him. So, 72 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:12.920 yes, although I would guess that his antagonist would not consider that to be 73 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.800 part of his room. No, but that's why he has to hide it 74 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:21.040 behind the wardrobe. Yes, he seems to get around a lot for a 75 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.319 guy who is supposedly has a lot of eyes on him. Well, he's 76 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.800 getting around, but only within the hotel, but like through locked doors, 77 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.079 and I mean nobody. Obviously nobody's keeping an eye on Nina because they would 78 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.639 notice that, right he's sitting with her in the restaurant. You know, 79 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.519 how is it possible that no one is keeping eyes on Nina? This is 80 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:47.480 a fortunate convention, I guess, but we did not some time, according 81 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:56.360 to Papa, that she was consorting with criminals. Yeah, it's this sort 82 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.439 of thing that we just gently put aside. Well, but also, if 83 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.839 this is nineteen twenty two, children are seen and you're saying little girls weren't 84 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:10.240 high on anybody's list of concerns at this time, right, exactly, I 85 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:14.439 get that, And just children in general, I mean they were just like 86 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:19.600 I'm sure they'll be fine, Yes, probably paying slightly dogs, so yes, 87 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:29.800 But I mean I would think that you can see the count demonstrating his 88 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:35.600 parental skills with the dogs and then with his apology to me no, yes, 89 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:43.560 that was adorable, and that relationship was just so sweet, and I 90 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.399 feel like there's not gonna be a lot of sweetness in this Maybe there will 91 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:51.959 be more, but I'm sad to see her go, if indeed going. 92 00:07:53.000 --> 00:08:01.000 She is speaking on a parenting point. This whole confinement to the hotel business 93 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:07.399 reminds me of what a bad idea it is to try to confine your child. 94 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.680 It's the you know you're grounded, but that means that you have to 95 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.839 watch them all the time, right, and make yourself available all the time. 96 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:22.120 And if you don't watch them all the time, they ain't gonna stay 97 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.720 grounded, right, They're gonna go have fun, They're going to talk to 98 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.319 their friends they're gonna do, you know, and so you have to be 99 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.279 the guy who keeps going in there and saying you're not supposed to be having 100 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:37.080 fun. Why are you having fun? Toop that, please be miserable. 101 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:43.279 Yes, so this is why I don't advise making kids stay in their room 102 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.919 or stay home all weekend, or not use their phones or whatever, because 103 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.360 you were gonna have to sit on them all that time, and it's not 104 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:56.399 fun for you either. Yes, So it also reminded me I thought you 105 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.679 were gonnas. This is what I thought you were gonna say that. You 106 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:05.279 know that period when you have very young children and you are kind of confined 107 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:13.240 to your hotel, you know, you have to you're beholden to nap schedules, 108 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.879 and you know, like what if you don't want to have to change 109 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.519 a diaper or what, you know whatever it is like, Yeah, I 110 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:22.840 mean I was. I feel like I was pretty good about being out and 111 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.120 around with my kids, especially when I just had one. I mean you 112 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:33.279 you had two from the get to immediately. Yes, but they could walk, 113 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.200 well, they could walk, but anyway, the older one could walk, 114 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.799 the younger one could not. But we had a double stroller that was 115 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:45.360 completely ridiculous. Yeah, for a person of my sons to pull out of 116 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.960 the trunk and open up and then wheel over and put one child in, 117 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.919 and wheel over and put the other child in, and then bush places. 118 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.440 I still think back to that time and just shake my head. Do you 119 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:03.120 feel like superhuman? Because it was heavy without children in it? Right? 120 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.120 And then and you're a very small person, like a four and a half 121 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.039 year old and an eighteen a month old, right, four and a half 122 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.080 year old ones so light, But it just it was nice. The one 123 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.679 thing that I liked about strollers that I missed when they went away is that 124 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:24.279 the confinement of them was helpful, right, especially when my son finally outgrowed 125 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.960 the umbrella stroller and I had to just let him run free. It was 126 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:33.279 like, oh, man, that was so nice. That was so nice 127 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.759 to be able to buggle in. Man, I know exactly where he was. 128 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:43.600 It all done right, Yes, But that is true that you know, 129 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:50.919 children are their own sort of little Bolshevik revolutions jailers, as you call 130 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:58.559 it. So we got more little tantalizing bits, more of the story about 131 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:07.080 his sister, and apparently his front of me right saved his life, so 132 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:15.519 that he could be confined to a hotel, right, better than being shot, 133 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:20.519 I suppose. Yes, you could have sex with actresses of the things. 134 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.039 Yeah, we win parties, drink champagne. Yes, we had that 135 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:31.559 whole New Year's Eve party with yes, uh staff, staff, and but 136 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.559 Mishika was there, so like, yes, I'm not sure who invited? 137 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.960 Well didn't the didn't the the lady with her little boy who came to his 138 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:46.080 room. I guess a maid. She's like the seamstress. Yeah, okay, 139 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.759 yeah, yeah, yeah, the seamstress. Didn't she tell him they 140 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.960 were having a party. I thought she sort of invited him. I think 141 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.559 she invited the count, but she was, oh who invited? Yeah, 142 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:05.480 I'm not he just possible. He just invites himself quickly. Absolutely, I 143 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.639 will do whatever I want now. But he probably probably has friends amongst the 144 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:15.519 wh Yes, so that looked like a good time. This looked like a 145 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.759 very good time. Not, that's a nice form of house arrest. You 146 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:28.279 know, you still get to go to parties. Yes, this is an 147 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.960 entirely too nice form of house arrest. I think certain parties are going to 148 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.480 begin to think, but you can't always anticipate what punishments are going to work 149 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.799 the best, that's right. That's a parenting lesson times possible for children to 150 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:48.759 turn a punishment to their own advance, especially when they have an accomplice in 151 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:56.440 Nina with a pass key. Yes, but that that outdoor, you know, 152 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.360 discovering that he can go outside after having been inside for I think over 153 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.519 a year to actually be able to go outside, even if you're just on 154 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:15.840 the roof. Yeah, just yeah, like even though it's winter and there's 155 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:20.360 snow and he's not even wearing a cultor, but you can just see the 156 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.960 how glorious it is to actually be there. You don't have snipers on the 157 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.639 roof apparently, no, I know, I feel like, get down. 158 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:35.360 It's just careful and anybody look up and say, hey, who is that 159 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.759 on the roof? Is he supposed to be there? I don't think so. 160 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.879 Well, they didn't say he can't go outside and outside the hotel his 161 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.240 feet are still on the hotel. That's one of those he doesn't jump up 162 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.200 technicalities. Yeah, but of course I don't think this is a regime that 163 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.360 particularly cares about technicalities. No, clearly he's not supposed to be doing that. 164 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.600 But you can understand what he would want to right, Well, he's 165 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.320 not supposed to be a lot of the places within the hotel that he actually 166 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:11.360 not supposed to be having a good time come on. As is so often 167 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:20.159 the case, those being put under limitations are oftentimes wiley in getting around them. 168 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:26.399 Children and also parents sometimes. Are you excited for next week as the 169 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:35.279 last rosstus? Yes, So next Tuesday we will discuss that third episode. 170 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:41.320 I'm really enjoying this and I'm almost like, oh, eight is going to 171 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:50.759 be too few, you know, I'm already like preemptively sad about it. 172 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.960 It is a very enjoyable watch, excellent acting, it's beautiful to look at, 173 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.399 and the story is interesting. So yeah, keep you coming. Yeah, 174 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:07.320 but we'll see you back here tomorrow for a discussion of lost quite different 175 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:16.440 properties. Also, also, could people could find to a space unwanted space? 176 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:22.679 But this is true so far, no polar bears in the hotel on 177 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.679 gentlemen in Moscow, though you never know it would be a little more geographically 178 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:33.879 appropriate. Yes, Wrecked, Thank you for listening. 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