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Thank you for listening to Pictures Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights,

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the show about the government, policy
and human rights. All right, welcome

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back to Policy and Right here in
Depictions Media Radio, I'm your host,

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Michael Cloggs. Let's start off in
right here at home in British Columbia,

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increased family Benefit payments are arriving in
bank accounts this summer and will help families

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with rising expenses due to inflation.
With global inflation and high interest rates driving

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up dealing costs, we know families
are being hit hard right now. The

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premiere David Eve, we're increasing support
to low and middle income families British Columbia

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throughout an expanded BC Family Benefit.
Getting a little extra money to families for

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the basics is one of the ways
we are helping people who are feeling the

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squeeze right now. The benefit is
expected to actually help about thirty sorry three

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hundred and forty thousand families and which
is about sixty six thousand more than last

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year. Will receive the benefit through
monthly deposits in their bank accounts or mail

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checks starting in mid July. The
twenty five percent increase through the bonus means

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families of four could potentially receive as
much as three thousand, five hundred and

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sixty three dollars annually, while a
single parent with one child could receive as

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much as two thousand, six hundred
eighty eight dollars. So oh, let's

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move forward. A BBC update on
a government that launched an attack in the

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Russian Republic It Attacks on the police
and churches and the synagogue in the Russian

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Republic of Dakistan have left nineteen police
officers and several civilians dead. A social

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media footage captured a government firing on
the street, while and while a clip

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from Durban, home to a ancient
Jewish community, showed buildings on fire.

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Sunday. The attacks coincided with the
Orthodox festival of pentecost A long a long

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serving priest is said to be among
the dead. The police detained the head

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of one district near Malakala following the
reports that his two Jewish sons were among

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the attackers, and said six gunmen
had been killed. Dagistan, one of

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the Russians porce provinces, is predominantly
Muslim and has in the past been the

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scene of Islamic attacks. The Krimlin
has dismissed the possibility of the other wave

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of violence, and Dagastan head Sergei
Malalov implied Ukraine had been involved in the

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attack. So moving forward, we're
gonna hear from the United Nations and we're

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also gonna hear from the the leadership
of NATO as he gives a speech from

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from Canada about security in Canada.
The Secretary General is going to give it

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has given a press conference on cybersecurity
and the importance of ensuring that the message

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is delivered via social media and on
the Internet are accurate and truthful. That

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misinformation h is harmful to to not
only those who are listening to the information,

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but to those who may be distant
from the information because it has such

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effects on the messages they are delivered. And when we hear from NATO,

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there are courts going to be commending
the efforts of what the Canada has been

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doing in Ukraine in training troops so
that they can defend their country. So

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once we push forward and we're going
to hear from the United Nations, Good

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afternoon, distinguished members of the media. The spread of a truth and lies

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online is causing grave harm to our
world. Misinformation these information and aid speech

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are fueling prejudice and violence, exacerbating
divisions and conflicts them and I minorities,

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and compromising the integrity of elections.
Today, I'm pleased to present a starting

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point for solutions the United Nations Global
Principles for Information Integrity. These five principles

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Social trust and resilience, independent,
free and plooralistic media, elsy incentives,

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transparency and research, and public empowerment
are based on an overriding vision of a

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more humane information system. They call
for an information environment that champions human rights

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and the sustainable future, and they
provide a solid foundation for sustainable, inclusive

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development, climate action, democracy and
peace. So the members of the media,

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threats to information integrity are not new, but they are probably inferating and

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expanding with n precedented speed on digital
platforms and supercharge by AI technologies. Science,

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facts, human rights, public health, climate action are under attack,

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and when information integrity is targeted,
so is democracy, which depends on a

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shared fact based perception of reality.
False narratives, distortions and lies breed cynicism,

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disbelief and disengagement. They undermines social
coision, putting the sustainable development goals

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further out of reach or pack algorithms
push people into information bubbles and reinforce prejudices,

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including racism, misorgery, and discrimination
of all kinds. Women, refugees,

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vigrants, and minorities are common targets. Activists, advocates, researchers,

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scientists, and leaders are arrassed and
humiliated, and the damage goes far beyond

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the digital realm, affecting billions of
people who are not connected to the Internet.

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Lives are at stake when lives are
spread about vaccines and other medical issues.

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The United nations own operations and missions
are compromised as our staff deal with

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the tsunami, falsehoods and absurd conspiracy
theories so distinguish members of the media and

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their friends. The United Nation's Global
Principles for Information Integrity are the results of

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broad consultations with member states, with
use leaders, academia, civil society,

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the private sector, including tech companies
and the media. Those consultations showed that

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much of the world shares our deep
concern and is searching for solutions, and

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the Global Principles lay out a clear
plan forward, firmly rooted in human rights,

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including the rights to freedom of expression
and opinion, and I urge governments,

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the tech sector and other stakeholders to
listen to your people and your customers

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and to respond. Some stakeholders carry
out carry an outsized responsibility, and for

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them, I have a clear message
with demand action. First to the big

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tech companies, take responsibility. Acknowledge
the damage your products are inflicting on people

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and communities, and you have the
power to mitigate harm to people and societies

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around the world. You have the
power to change business models that profit from

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these information and hate. Second to
advertisers and the PR industry, stop monetizing

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harmful content, strengths and information in
tegrity, protect your brand, boost your

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bottom line. The climate crisis is
a cause of particular concern. Coordinated these

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information campaigns are seeking to undermine climate
action. Creatives, don't use your talents

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to greenwash pur agencies, look for
clients. Warn't misleading people and destroying our

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planets sert. My message to mendy
outlets is raise and reinforce editorial standards.

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Do your part to safeguard our future
by providing quality journalism based on facts and

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reality. Find advertisers are part of
the solution, not the problem. And

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finally, I say to governments,
commit to creating and maintaining a free,

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viable, independent, and plural medial
landscape. Guarantee strong protections for journalists.

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Ensure regulations old human rights, and
refrain from drastic measures, including blanket internet

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shutdowns. Respect the right to freedom
of opinion and expression and need Let me

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be very clear, everyone should be
able to express themselves freely without fear of

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attack. Everyone should be able to
access a range of views and information sources.

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No one should be at the mercy
of an algorithm they don't control,

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which was not designed to safeguard their
interests, and which tracks their behavior to

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collect personal data and keep them hooped. So the members of the media,

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these principles aim to empower people to
demand their rights. They support parents anxious

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for their children, young people whose
future relies on information, integrity, civil

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society, and academia. We are
pushing for change and public interest media striving

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to convey, reliable and create information. Un here's your calls for guidance and

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support. So don't lose heart,
raise your voices, demand accountability, demand

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choice, demand control. You are
the majority and this is a fight we

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can win together. Same. Thank
you very much for Okay, So we

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heard from the Secretary General on cybersecurity
and securing that messages are helpful to the

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people overall. We heard the Secretary
General mentioned about bottom lines and simply broadcasting

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just to increase your bottom line.
I want to want to make a comment

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about that and that we the public
need to ensure that there is more information

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being sent out by sources that are
independent of corporations, that we hear from,

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more independent media outlets and those who
are not taking money from the big

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corporations like the Sun Oil's, the
pfighters that are out there that they are

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broadcasting information because they want people to
know and not just trying to sell more

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product. So let's move ahead to
the next segment. This question to Valeria

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Rebecca. Thank you, Secretary General
alm bealso of the United Nations Correspondent Association

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for this press conference. Valeria Rebecca
from Anson News Buyers. So my question

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is how do you think you will
get countries on board and those principle being

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implemented and looking specifically toward zones.
I'll offer you to see an implementation of

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these principles not only to ensure safety
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public to have access to reliable and
timely information and if I may on Lebanona,

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is there any developments, any good
developments, And in terms of did

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you have contacts with the parties in
trying to de escalate the situation? Thank

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you so much answering the second,
since my stakeout on Friday, nothing relevant

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has happened that I no. Now
we have a clear message to governments,

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and that message is based fundamentally on
the respect of human rights. And obviously

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governments have the capacity to regulate,
and those regulations must be organized in a

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way that human rights are respected,
that freedom of expression is respected, that

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freedom of media is respected, that
journalists are protected, and at the same

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time that those platforms that have the
capacity to spread information put the integrity of

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information first and not a business model
that makes more money when hate speech or

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misinformation is spread. All the research
that was done proves that with most of

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the present business models, false things, especially if they are scandalous, appeals

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to intolerance and to hate speech tend
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that algorithms are based on that.
So what we ask is the platforms to

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assume responsibilities in this regards and we
ask governments to be attentive to these and

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to have the regulations that respect the
principles that I mentioned, but at the

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same time that create the conditions for
the business models to be based on a

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do no harm perspective. Edie,
you I much miss the Secretary General.

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First of follow up on the principles, you said that big tech companies and

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especially advertising and PR people really have
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What is the U and going to
do to try and ensure that big tech

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and advertising and PR companies actually take
these principles to heart and do what you

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said, which is to stop disinformation, hate speech, etc. And secondly,

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on Gaza there's been an escalation of
fighting. And also what is your

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reaction to Israeli Prime Ministered Benjamin Natanyahu's
statement this morning that Israel will not agree

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to any deal that calls for a
permanency's fire. Thank you, first of

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all, in addition to the first
question, all those companies have people working

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there, their parents, their citizens. They are interested in do no harm,

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and this appeal we have seen in
many areas all the stuff of companies

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has been a very important factor in
making sure that companies do the right thing.

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On the other hand, whenever our
objective is to mobilize public opinion,

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for public opinion to put pressure,
put pressure on companies and put pressure on

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governments in this regard. But I
have to say that the problem is that

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those companies even lose control with the
present systems in place, because when you

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have an algorithm, the algorithm works
automatically and you don't even control what the

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algorithm will produce. So people need
to be much more rigorous in the algorithms

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that developed, and most of the
advertising companies, I must say, I

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doubt that they have control of their
own products in many of the social media

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platforms. So I think it's in
the interests of the advertising industry to know

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exactly how their products are being used, how do they appear, how is

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that selected within the way algorithms work
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So in my opinion, it's fundamental
to mobilize everybody, including those that

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operate in these industries, to accept
the principle of do no harm and to

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adapt their business models to the right
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Our position has been the same since
the beginning. We strongly advocate for an

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immediate humanitarian CEA is fire and for
any immediate release and then conditional release of

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all hostages as the basis to create
the conditions for one day, the two

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say solution to be possible. Thank
you that that means that it's a different

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position than the one that you have
expressed sexual general strauduct with Chines and your

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television. I promise you. I
only have one question. It's about information

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integrity. Let me give you an
example. If I search Athrise, if

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I search on Google now, if
I search on Google now, the second

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the second result is a sponsored advertisement
called on war neutuality compromised. So in

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this information integrity, how can you
ensure that governments they don't they don't because

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of maybe their national interests to push
for misinformation or disinformation. Do you have

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confidence that member states would do that? I think that member states have a

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vested interests in not promoting misinformation because
sooner or later the truth is discovered.

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I'll give you one example of misinformation
about myself. I've heard the same source

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many times saying that I never attacked
AMAS, that I never condemned AMAS,

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that I am a supporter of AMAS. I asked for a statistic to be

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made by our colleagues. I have
condemned AMAS one under than two times fifty

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one of them informal speeches, the
others in different social platforms. So I

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mean the truth in the end always
wins. Team and Joe Abderrami Siam from

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the Arabic daily Al kotzel Rabi,
Mister Secretary General, the Palestinian people are

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being obliterated. The killing machine did
not stop. For the last nine months,

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over one hundred thirty thousand Palaestinian either
killed maimed, and there's over twenty

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thousand Palestinian children had been became orphans. Israel is defying every international agency for

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Security Council resolution, two General Assembly
Resolutions i CEJ three times, the Provisional

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majority. Where take you please?
A question? What else can the international

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community do to protect the Palestinian Would
they just keep watching while thousands and thousand

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Polsine being killed both in Gaza and
the West Bank. Thank you well.

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First of all, the international community
must put all pressure in order for international

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law to be respected, for international
Meditaian law to be respected. The number

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of Palacinian killed in Gaza is unprecedented
in any conflict that I have witnessed since

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I am Secretary General, which means
that the protection of civilians has not been

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a key instrument in the conduction of
this operations. And on the other hand,

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I mean international law applies, and
there are courts that deal with international

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law, and the decisions of those
courts must be respected in all circumstances.

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Joe and I will need to let
the ESCHI goo Joseph Klein, Canada,

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Free Press. I want to return
to your topic today and the global principles

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for information integrity. You've talked often
and CLU today about the danger of misinformation

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and hate speech on social media and
appropriately so, but I would like specifically

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to know how you would apply your
message to the tech industry and advertisers to

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the growing concern that teenagers and children
on social media are being sexually solicited,

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harassed, bullied, body shamed and
addicted. That's something that hasn't received as

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much attention as far as I can
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you are very concerned about it,
So could you comment on Thank you.

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We mentioned it in my remarks and
it is central in the document that we

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have published. Indeed, the question
of children is probably the most worrying question

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for me in relation to what we
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and in addiction, because one of
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activities related to social media, to
platforms, and to other aspects. I

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strongly encourage, strongly encourage the companies
involved to adopt very rigorous mechanisms based on

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the do No Arm principle in relation
to children, and I strongly encourage governments

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to be particularly effective in regulation in
this regard. Thank you. We have

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to let the Secretary General go,
but Milissa will state answer. Thanks.

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We're going to hear from Jen Strathenberg
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He is speaking to the NATO Association
of Canada after accepting the Lewis Saint Laurent

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Award for outstanding service and peace insecurity. And let's hear what his remarks are

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to Canada as we in Canada are
actually struggling to keep up with the NATO

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standards, and how he made a
promise to ensure that Canada will continue to

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be a strong member of NATO.
Good afternoon, it's great to see you

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all, and David, thank you
so much for your kind words, your

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public service in politics as a minister's
minister, has really made a difference,

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not only for Canal but also for
NATO. So it's great to see you

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and I'm great to meet all of
you many times. Also to the NATO

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Association of Canada and the Canadian and
NATO Parlimento Association for inviting me to be

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here today. It is good to
be back in Canada. I feel at

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home in this country. And last
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Cambridge Bay with Prime Minister to door
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we visited neural that this early warning
radar and it was actually extremely useful for

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me to see this myself and also
extremely interesting. And I'm great to be

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in the High North of Canada.
The vs today may be a bit less,

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as I say, exciting in a
way that it's not a high North,

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but at least the climate is actually
much and it was a very different

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actually in a way that it's extremely
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opened the High North. But anyway, thank you so much. It's great

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to see you all, and I
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But let me start by express my
gratitude and to tell you that it

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is really a great honor to receive
the Louis Sanlauran Award, named after prime

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minister who oversaw Canada joining NATO back
in nineteen forty nine. And Santura was

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one of the earliest proponents of NATO
as a transatlantic alliance. He understood that

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the only way to stand up to
aggression was for free nations to stand together.

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He was right then and he is
right now. For today, we

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face the most challenging, complex and
dangerous security environment for generations. In three

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weeks, leaders the NATO Hudson State
of Heads of State and Government will meet

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in Washington for the NATO Summit.
There we will celebrate the seventy fifth anniversary

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of our alliance. But this summit
will not only be about celebrations, but

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it will also be an opportunity to
make important precisions for the future. There

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are three main issues on our agenda. First, the terrans and the fence.

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We live in a more dangerous world
with a greater global competition, a

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new war in the Middle East and
a full fledged war in Europe. Canada

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contributes to NATO's the terrans and events
in many different ways. We are very

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grateful for those contributions. Not least
on Europe's east and flank, where Canadian

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troops lead NATO's National Battle Group in
Latvia. And I have had the privilege

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of meeting the Canadian soldiers in Latvia
several times, and every time I met

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them, I've been impressed by the
commitment, by the skill, by the

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professionalism, and I would like to
express my gratitude to them, but also

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to Canada for everything you do to
strengthen NATO's military persons on our eastern flank

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and pay tribute to all those who
serve and have served in that bat group.

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In twenty fourteen, Russia illegally annexed
the Crimea and at that time all

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NATO allies at the NATO Submitting Wales
in the United Kingdom decided that we should

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spend two percent of GDP on defense. At that time, only three allies

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out of all NATO members met the
guideline met the target of spending two percent

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of GDP on defence. That was
the United States, The Kingdom and Greece.

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This year, in twenty twenty four, twenty three allies will spend at

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least two percent of GDP on defence. Canada is also increasing its defence spending

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and will add billions over the coming
years, including by purchasing high end new

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capabilities, modernizing neurald and by investing
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This is important for our collective security. This will have to further strengthen NATE

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to us a defensive military alliance.
At the same time, I continue to

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expect that all allies should meet the
guideline of spending two percent. I know

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that the is not always easy because
I've been a politician, parliamentarium and a

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Prime minister for many years, and
I know that it's always easier to spend

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money on health, education, infrastructure
and many other important tasks than to invest

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more in defense. And that's also
the reason why when the Cold War ended,

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European allies Canada reduced the fence spending
because tensions went down. But when

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we reduce the fence spending when tensions
are going down, we have also to

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be must also be able to increase
spending investments and security when tensions are increasing

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and are high as they are today. So therefore the reality is that now

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we need to prioritize defence investments in
our security because we need that to respond

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to more dangerous and challenging environment.
And as I said, the reality is

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that that's what NATO allies are doing. Twenty three allies on two percent or

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more, and more and more allies
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are not yet at that target.
The second topic for the summit, and

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the most urgent one, will be
Ukraine. Since Russia's full scale invasion,

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NATO allies have provided unpresented levels of
support to Ukraine. Again, Canada is

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really among those allies who are provided
significant and substantial support to Ukraine, and

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not only since the full scale invasion
in twenty twenty two. But I was

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in Ukraine back in twenty fifteen,
and I remember I visited a training site

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in the western part of Ukraine where
actually Canadian soldiers officers inning the Ukrainians already

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back then. So not only have
Canada provided es central support after the full

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scale invasion in February twenty two,
but you are among those allies who have

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been there for the longest time and
helped them also prior to the full scale

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invasion, and the support the training
you provided before the invasion proved extremely important

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when Russia launched a full scale invasion
A couple of years ago. Since the

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invasion, Canada has provided billions of
dollars in a to Ukraine, including air

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defense systems, battle tanks, and
F sixteen pilot training, on top of

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a lot of ammunition, another military
equipment and support which has made a difference

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on the battlefield for Ukraine. This
has been indispensable for Ukrainians to fight back

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and to survive as a sovereign nation. But this winter and spring we saw

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serious lays and gaps in delivering support, with consequences on the front line.

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We cannot let this happen again,
and that is why I expect ally leaders

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to agree for NATO to lead the
coordination and provision of security systems and training

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for Ukraine. I also I also
have proposed a long term financial pledge with

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fresh funding every year for Ukraine.
The more credible our long term support,

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the quick in Moscow will realize it
cannot wait us out, the sooner this

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war will end. It may seem
like a paradox, but the path to

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peace is more weapons to Ukraine to
convince person and Putin that he cannot win

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on the battlefield. We must ensure
that putins aggression doesn't pay off today or

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in the future. That is why
we at the NATO summit in Washington next

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month, will continue to bring Ukraine
ever closer to NATO membership so that when

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the time is right, Ukraine can
join without any delay. The third major

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topic at the NATO summit is our
global partnerships, especially in the Indo Pacific,

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and of course Canada, being both
an Atlantic and a Pacific nation,

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you are aware of both the challenges
in Europe but also the Indo Pacific.

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The war in Ukraine demonstrates that our
security is not regional. Our security is

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global, not least because of the
support we know Russia is getting from China

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and others. Beijing is sharing high
end technologies like semiconductors and other dually use

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items. Last year, Russia imported
ninety percent of its microelectronics from China used

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to produce missiles, tanks, and
aircraft. China is also working to provide

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Russia with improved satellite capability and imagery. All of this enables Moscow to inflict

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more death and destruction on Ukraine,
bolster Russia's defense industrial base, and evade

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the impact of sanctions and exports controls. Publicly, President she has tried to

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create the impression that he is taking
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toward sanctions and to keep trade flowing. But the reality is that China is

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fueling the largest armed conflict in Europe
since World War Two, and at the

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same time it wants to maintain good
relations with the West. Well, Beijing

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cannot have it both ways at some
point, and unless China changes course,

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allies need to impose a cost.
Russia is receiving support from others. Two

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North Korea has delivered over one million
rounds of artillery shells, and Iran has

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delivered thousands of deadly Shahaed drones.
We are deeply concerned that in exchange,

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Pungyang and Tehran could receive Russian technology
and supplies to help them advance their missile

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and nuclear programs. The growing alignment
between Russia and its authoritarian friends in Asia

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makes it even more important that we
work closely with our friends in the Indo

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Pacific. I have therefore invited the
leaders, the heads of state and government

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of Australia, Japan, New Zealand
and the Republic of Korea to the summit

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in Washington next month. Together,
we can uphold the international rules based order

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and protect our shared values. So, ladies and gentlemen, for seventy five

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years, NATO Allies has kept us
safe, just as Prime Minister Stora knew

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it would it that it saw us
through the Cold War and their breakup of

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the Soviet Union, and the ethnic
wars in the Balkans, and help us

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fight Harrison in the after month of
the nine eleven attacks and the rise of

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ISIS, and NATO keeps us safe
today as we prepare for a more dangerous

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world. Thanks to the collective strength
of NATO, we can stand up to

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authoritarian powers like Russia and China and
make sure that freedom and democracy prevail in

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Ukraine. And it's to NATO that
we will continue to protect our values,

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our nations and our one billion people. Thank you so much. Okay,

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we're gonna hear from Tiff Machlin about
the Bank Canada and a little bit about

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how he goes about completing his chest, adjusting the interest rates and what it

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is that he looks at as well, from not just simply what the banks

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are doing, but to labor markets, to different markets across Canada, how

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they are going to be affected by
the change in fluctuations in interest versus the

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pricing in how it'll will will affect
the people of Canada. Okay, well,

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look good afternoon. It is a
great pleasure to be here today,

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is of course Saint Jean Baptiste Bon
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atut aatus. When I started as
Governor of the Bank of Canada on June

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third, twenty twenty, the economy
was in crisis. It was early in

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the pandemic, and Canada's unemployment rate
was fourteen percent, the highest on record.

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Inflation was well below the two percent
target. It was actually slightly negative.

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The immediate priority was to avoid deflation
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feet. But since twenty twenty twenty, since twenty twenty two, we are

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fighting a new battle high inflation.
When the economy reopened, the combination of

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gum up global supply chains, a
strong surgeon demand, and Russia's unprovoked invasion

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of Ukraine sent inflation sharply higher.
It peaked at just over eight percent in

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June twenty twenty two. For more
than two years now, our focus has

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been getting inflation back down. We've
come a long way. Monetary policy has

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worked and it's continuing to work.
Since January, inflation has been below three

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percent and our measures of underlying inflation
have eased steadily. This has increased our

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confidence that inflation will continue to move
closer to the two percent target this year,

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and as Jeannette underlined a couple of
times earlier, this month, we

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lowered our policy interest rate for the
first time in four years. Low,

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stable and predictable inflation allows Canadians to
spend and invest with confidence. It lowers

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uncertainty and encourages long term investment,
and it contributes to sustained job creation and

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greater productivity. This in turn leads
to improvements in our standard of living.

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That's why price stability is our number
one priority. A key ingredient for price

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stability is a healthy labor market,
one in which Canadians have the jobs they

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want, employers have the workers they
need, and wages are growing in line

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real wages are growing in line with
productivity. Economists call this maximum sustainable employment,

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the highest level of employment the economy
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The health of the Canadian labor market
is what I'm going to talk about today.

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In the twenty twenty one renewal of
our monetary policy framework, the Federal

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government and the Bank of Canada agreed
price stability is our primary objective. We

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also agreed monetary policy should continue to
support maximum sustainable employment. Since then,

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we've done extensive work to bolster our
analysis labor markets. We publish new a

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new dashboard of labor market indicators,
and we've updated those benchmarks each year.

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So where are we now and what's
ahead? With higher interest rates, spending

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is cooled and businesses have scaled back
their hiring plans. Strong immigration has also

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helped the supply of workers catch up
with demand, bringing the labor market into

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better balance. But it's now getting
harder to find a new job, and

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that's particularly affecting younger workers and newcomers
to Canada. And it suggests the economy

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now has room to grow without building
new inflationary pressures. If we look at

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the labor market over the longer term, what we see is that Canada's growing,

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inclusive and well educated labor force has
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It's been our primary source of growth
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and sustaining this advantage is critical to
achieving strong non inflationary growth going forward.

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Well that's my speech in a nutshell. So if that's all you need,

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you can start checking your smartphone.
But if you're willing to stick with me

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for another fifteen minutes or cell,
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Canadian Canada's labor market, both in
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Poundmi. In November twenty twenty two, when we were raising our poll interest

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rate rapidly, I gave a speech
about how we expected the labor market to

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adjust to higher interest rates and slower
growth. I said that while the adjustment

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wouldn't be without some pain, it
need not involve a sharp rise in the

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unemployment rate. With vacancies so high, much of the adjustment could come from

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businesses taking down job postings rather than
laying off workers. This was based on

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what economists call the beverage curve,
which shows that typically inverse relationship between job

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vacancies and the unemployment rate. The
evolution of beverage curve, as you can

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see in this chart, is a
bit complicated, but it provides some insight

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into why the overall labor market has
adjusted relatively smoothly to slower growth. So

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let me walk you through it.
Before the pandemic, the economy was near

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full employment. Vacancies as a percentage
of the labor force and the unemployment rate

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were both fairly low. That's the
blue diamonds near the middle of the black

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curve. The pandemic severely disrupted the
labor market. The unemployment rate rose rapidly

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to just about fourteen percent in May
twenty twenty. That's the purple dot on

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the far right. With this disruption
in the labor market, the entire beverage

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curve shifted up into the right.
We moved from the black curve to the

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orange curve. As the economy gradually
reopened, job vacancies rose slightly and the

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unemployment rate came down quickly. This
is reflected in movement from right to left

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along the orange beverage curve that's the
orange triangles. As the economy reopened fully,

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the beverage curve shifted back down with
less disruption. We began to see

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better matching between job seekers and job
vacancies, and we moved from the orange

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curve back down to the black curve. The unemployment rate fell to a fifty

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year low of four point eight percent. That's the dot at the top left

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on the black beverage curve. And
as they said, we moved from the

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orange back to the old black curve. As we raised interest rates in the

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economy, cool businesses started to scale
back job postings, and higher immigration helped

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fill job vacancies. The combined effect
saw vacancies decline considerably, moving down the

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steep part of the beverage curve.
That's the green dots on the black curve.

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We're now approaching the same part of
the curve that we were in before

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the pandemic. The red dot is
our most recent data point May twenty twenty

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four. Okay, so what does
all this dynamic mean. Well, when

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the unemployment rate is very low and
job vacancies are very high, as they

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were when the economy was overheated.
The curve is steep, so when you

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see the green dots moving down without
moving much to the right, that means

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vacancies can come down a lot with
only a relatively small increase in unemployment.

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This is a soft landing scenario.
It's always been a narrow path and we

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have yet to fully stick the landing. Looking forward, the unemployment rate could

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rise further, particularly as the beverage
curve is getting flatter, but we continue

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to think that we don't need a
large rise in the unemployment rate to get

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inflation back to the two percent target. Inflation is not yet two percent,

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but it is a lot closer,
and with further and sustained easing and underlying

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inflation in recent months, we are
more confident that inflation will continue to move

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closer to the target. So now
turning to wage dynamics. When the labor

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market was tight and inflation was high, wage growth increased, and depending on

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the measure you look at, wage
growth peaked between four and a half and

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six percent. This was roughly twice
the pre pandemic average of two to three

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percent. With inflation now much lower
and the labor market coming into better balance,

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we are starting to see evidence the
wage growth is moderating. The latest

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numbers on a six month basis suggest
wage growth has eased to about four percent.

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This is clearly down from the peak, but still above the pre pandemic

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average. Now, the fact that
wages are moderating more slowly and inflation is

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not sorry. The fact that wages
are moderating more slowly than inflation is not

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itself surprising. Wages tend to lag
adjustment in employment. Going forward, we

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will be looking for wage growth to
moderate further. In assessing the implications of

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wage growth for labor costs and inflation, it is important to separate out wage

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gains that reflect productivity improvements. Wage
gains that are backed by productivity gains do

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not increase labor costs or inflationary pressures. In recent years, the number of

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higher paying jobs in the economy has
grown more than the number of lower paying

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jobs, and what that means is
that overall wage growth has been higher.

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To the extent that this reflects workers
gaining valuable news skills or finding jobs that

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better match their skills, it shouldn't
add to you to labor costs and inflation.

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So when we're assessing the inflationary implications
of wage growth. We place more

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weight on wage measures that try to
control for occupational shifts or labor cost measures,

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and these are running a little lower
than other wage measures, particularly if

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you use the more timely six months
rates of change. So that's the broad

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adjustment in the labor market. It's
been relatively it's been a relatively smooth cooling,

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but the aggregate masks some important differences. Some workers are feeling to slow

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down more than other. Employers may
not be laying off workers in large numbers,

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but less hiring over the last year
means it's harder to find that first

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job. That hurts new graduates and
younger workers, as well as newcomers to

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Canada. So let me take a
moment to dig into some detail here.

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The unemployment rate for newcomers is rising
much faster than the overall unemployment rate.

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Newcomers are taking longer to find a
job. Look that's hard on them.

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It's making it more difficult to integrate
into the Canadian economy. It also suggests

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that the government has some room to
slow the growth of non permanent residents without

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tightening the labor market too much and
causing significant labor shortages. If you look

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at younger workers, youth employment has
also been softening again. The evidence suggests

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that people establishing their jobs are not
experiencing much of an increase in unemployment,

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but with fewer new job vacancies,
it's taking longer for young people entering the

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labor market to find a job,
so their unemployment rate has risen. It's

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now about two percentage points above its
pre pandemic average. Now it's worth stressing

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that labor market adjustments are never evenly
distributed and monetary policy can't target specific parts

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of the labor market. But as
we set monetary policy, the bank needs

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to look beyond the aggregate to understand
what this cooling in the labor market means

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for different people. The overall unemployment
rate is close to its pre pandemic level,

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and it's still relatively low, but
the slowdown in hiring has led to

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increases in the unemployment for younger workers
and newcomers to Canada. These workers are

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feeling the effects of slower growth more
than others, and we need to recognize

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this. This matters for monetary policy
because it indicates there is some slack in

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the labor market that suggests the economy
has room to grow and add more jobs

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without creating new inflationary pressures. It
also matters for household financial stress. People

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who find it hard to get a
job often find it harder to keep up

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with their credit card and other debt
payments. Many indicators of financial stress declined

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during the pandemic, but they're now
back to around where they were before the

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pandemic, and late payments for credit
cards and auto loans are actually above pre

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pandemic levels. We see this stress
particularly among renters, and these are often

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these younger workers and newcomers to Canada. So let me now shift gears.

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That was a short run I'm going
to pivot to looking at the labor market

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from a longer run perspective. For
years, Canada's biggest economic advantage has been

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its labor force, and that includes
people with jobs and people who are looking

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for jobs. Growth and employment in
Canada has been much stronger than in the

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United Kingdom, the Euer Area,
and even the United States and has been.

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This was true before the pandemic,
and it was true through the pandemic

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recovery. Our labor force advantage reflects
three key strengths. High labor market participation,

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strong immigration, and a good education
system. So let me take each

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of these in turn. First,
Canada's labor force participation is stronger than in

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these other countries. Our participate participation
rate for women is at the top of

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00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.960
the G seven, and that's been
helped by affordable childcare and flexible work arrangements.

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Second, Canada tracts some of the
world's best and brightest students and workers,

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and we actually integrate them relatively quickly
into the Canadian economy compared to many

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other countries. On Our education system
does a good job overall of developing the

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workers the economy needs and businesses want
to hire. Our post secondary attainment level

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in Canada is the highest among advanced
economies, although we do trail the United

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States in the attainment of advanced degrees. Our Achilles heel is productivity. We

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have been very good at growing our
economy by adding workers. We've been much

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less successful at increasing output per worker, and this is catching up to us.

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While we manage to make up for
our productivity under performance from twenty to

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twenty nineteen with strong labor force growth. Since the pandemic, GDP growth in

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Canada has been weaker than in the
United States. As my colleague, Senior

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Deputy Governor Carolyn Rodgers highlighted in March
week, productivity growth in Canada is a

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long standing issue and it's reaching emergency
levels. As good as we've been a

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growing our economy by adding workers,
we need more than one engine moving forward.

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As any great hockey coach would tell
you, we need to play to

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our strengths, and that's growing our
labor force. While we tackle our weaknesses

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investment and productivity. We should not
take our labor market strengths those advantages.

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We should not take them for granted. We need to maintain and build on

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them. That means continuing to improve
the accessibility of childcare. It means considered

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01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:37.159
efforts to improve labor force participation of
groups that have traditionally been left out,

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01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.559
and here I'm thinking especially of Canada's
Indigenous peoples, a growing pool of young

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01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:49.800
talent who have been excluded from economic
opportunities for too long. It means aligning

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01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:53.639
immigration to long standing labor shortages in
key areas like skilled trades. It means

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01:00:53.800 --> 01:01:01.719
properly recognizing credentials and qualifications and experience
of imigrants. And it means sustaining and

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01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:07.320
enhancing our education system and ensuring it
is developing students for the jobs of the

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future. Tackling our productivity problem will
be harder, but it is vital.

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01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:21.199
Productivity growth ensures our businesses are competitive
in international markets, It pays for higher

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wages, and it underpins rising standards
of living. And with an aging population

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and limits to how many immigrants we
can absorb each year, improving our productivity

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01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:37.800
growth will become more important to sustained
trend growth in Canada. Now, on

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01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.480
the surface, the cause of low
productivity growth in Canada is clear enough.

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On averages. On average, businesses
in Canada invest much less per worker than

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01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.039
they do in the United States,
and with less investment in mach machinery and

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01:01:53.079 --> 01:02:00.559
equipment, particularly information and communication technology, workers in Canada have less and less

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01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:07.519
and older machines and computers to work
with, and weaker investment in intellectual property

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means they have fewer innovations to help
them work smarter, faster and more efficiently.

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So it's not surprising they're less productive. But the deeper question is why

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have we had systematically less investment in
Canada than in the United States, Or

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to put the question in the positive, how do we make Canada more investable.

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Finding answer these questions is going to
be critical to if we want to

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increase non inflationary growth and raise the
standard of living of Canadians. It's time

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for me to conclude price stability is
our primary mandate and a healthy labor market

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01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:58.719
and price stability go hand in hand. If employment is well below its maximum

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sustainable level, the economy is missing
jobs and incomes, and this puts downward

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pressure on inflation, pushing it below
or two percent target. That's what happened

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early in the pandemic. When the
economy is operating above maximum sustainable employment,

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businesses aren't able to find the workers
they need to keep up with demand.

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That puts upward pressure on prices and
pushes inflation above our target. That's where

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false. Marchi de travai inclusive judicious
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problem? The productivity to continuan the
missi so set false. Today, inflation

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is much closer to the two percent
target, and with some slack in the

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economy, there is room for the
Canadian economy to grow and add more jobs.

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Even as inflation continues to move closer
to the target, We're not yet

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back to two percent, and we
can't rule out that there will be some

582
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:12.719
new bumps along the way, but
increasingly we look to be on our way.

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01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.800
Assessing the health of the labor market
from various angles is an important input

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01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:25.159
into our monetary policy decisions beyond the
near term. A healthy labor market is

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critical to strong non inflationary growth in
Canada. We've been successful at expanding our

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economy by growing our labor force.
To sustain this advantage, we need to

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keep investing in an inclusive labor market, smart immigration, and a strong and

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01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:47.719
accessible education system. Let's not take
these for granted as we tackle our productivity

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problem. Thank you. Okay,
final thoughts security. There was a president

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I believe there was a president in
the past that said, if you want

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security, that there are prisons across
the country to help keep you secure.

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Okay. The bottom line message to
that is that the more we increase security,

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the more freedoms we are actually going
to lose. We have to find

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ways to police ourselves before something comes
along and forms of regulation. The more

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that we have government involved in our
daily lives, the less freedoms we actually

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do have. The more laws that
are created, the less wiggle room we

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have to be ourselves. I'm not
putting this out there as a revolt against

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government, but I'm asking for people
to do is to start voting for smaller

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01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:39.159
government to limit the roles that government
actually has in our lives. And the

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01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:44.800
way to do that not only by
voting, but also by settlling disputes with

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those that are around us among ourselves
without violence, by talking things out and

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01:07:51.400 --> 01:08:00.000
setlling things by coming to agreements and
standing by those agreements with our own neighbors.

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Some of what we're asking our government
to actually do can be done by

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ourselves. Some of what we're asking
our governments to do on a much greater

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scale, global scale, actually starts
with us doing it with our neighbors around

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us. By coming to agreements among
ourselves, we can actually project that in

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ways so that we see fewer armed
conflicts settling global agreements. We hear terminology

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being used the illegal evasion of Ukraine
by the Russian Federation and Vladimir Putin.

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But when we look at the rhetoric
that around this, why are we not

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hearing how illegal the invasion of Gaza
is. No one wrote down on a

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piece of paper saying here, here's
express written permission for Israel to attack Gaza.

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At the same time, no one
gave express written permission for the Hamas

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to go take hostages and invade the
Israeli territories. Why is it so important

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that we point out how illegal the
invasion was. With Vladimir Putin, we

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have to be careful with what we
see in rhetoric and how it is things

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are projected, how we place sanction, we watch our government place sanctions against

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other governments, our agreements to these
things. We have to make sure that

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our government is acting in fair and
equal ways. And one of the ways

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to ensure that our government is won
by shrinking how our government can can affect

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our lives. By putting more government
officials in charge of the Internet, what

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we are essentially doing is we are
handing over the keys of control of the

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information that we are allowed to see
to the corporations who are already governing the

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Internet, by those corporations that are
creating the algorithms to begin with, the

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Secretary of General of the United Nations
says that we should should start to see

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these algorithms be freer so that the
majority, more of the majority of people

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can be heard. But by placing
more and more government regulations to the Internet,

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we will actually see more and more
corporate messages appear, because they are

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the corporations who created the message the
algorithms. To begin with. We need

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to be careful about how we see
security and what we're asking for insecurity.

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And that's the bottom line is if
we want to maintain our freedom, we

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have to be careful of the regulations
and the laws that we're asking from our

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government. Thank you for listening to
Bolt and writes her own Depictions Media Radio,

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