1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:10,560 Welcome to soft Core History. What is up? Welcome back to the Softcore 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,320 History Patreon. I am your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined 3 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:19,239 as always by Alex FISHEMI. What's up guys as always this week, and 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,719 also Dan re Jester. He's got the rainbow crocs on. Dude. Yeah, 5 00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:26,800 I've had these bad boys for a couple of years now. The all 6 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:31,399 the traction on the bottom is completely worn off. So if it's slick outside, 7 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:33,640 I will fall on. You're not gonna be able to run from police 8 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:37,439 with those, No, you'll go right through them. Now. I don't 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,200 understand why you're wearing them in go mode or whatever, because you're just sitting 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,159 around. That's so they don't fall off during sex. Oh okay, were 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,600 you playing? You never know when sex is gonna happen? Is that not 12 00:00:48,679 --> 00:00:54,119 what this podcast is about? Soft Core get romantic? Certainly, we just 13 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:57,079 we just can't show the penetration. But I assumed we were still going to 14 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:00,520 get a little yeah, especially now that that prude Jake is gone. You 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,719 know, Jake has never once rubbed himself on me in this podcast once. 16 00:01:03,519 --> 00:01:07,480 It's pretty good unacceptable. You can't see you, guys, can't see below 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,719 the waist. But there's a lot going on down here. We all have 18 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:15,159 erections and it's rock hard boners, like absolutely just veiny. Now you can 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 see uh how uh well, actually not my I'm not going with my shirt. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,519 How how kind of deep red Bousch's shirt is? That is how much 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,879 blood is in all of our wieners? That depth of red? Yeah, 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,719 I actually take They're not a sponsored but I take a blue chube before every 23 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:36,920 show. Speaking of which, I saw a homeless guy jerking off yesterday where 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,719 two nights ago. Actually it was outside. It was right outside of an 25 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:42,719 Exxon, like right on the east side, like so much traffic, so 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,280 many people walking by, and he's just and he's looking like this. He's 27 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:52,159 looking around like make sure no one can't expected though, make sure no one 28 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:56,920 can see Yeah, And then I'm like, dude, what do you everyone 29 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:01,040 can see? Probably making sure that dude he was beating his dick like he 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:06,319 would die if he didn't nut it was that's how he breathed. Yeah, 31 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:08,960 he's just trying to force oxygen into a long series fucking cock trying to get 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,840 a roof over his head and a hot meal. Well, you ain't gonna 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 get it that way. I don't understand. Okay, I'm just gonna say 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:23,919 it. If you are a homeless person and you don't have an only fans 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,479 because like all homeless people have smartphones at this point, because that's just it 36 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,240 just looking for a charge. Yeah, only fans for Yeah, just you 37 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,199 want to be homeless, dude, just only fans of you, like banging 38 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 other homeless people behind dumpsters and jirking off underneath street bridges. Do you even 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,639 understand? If I was homeless, the first thing I would do is fucking 40 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:46,520 go to your shopping carts side, like just me jerking off onto my own. 41 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:51,639 I don't even need the gay or like the sexual stuff. I just 42 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,960 want to see inside the homeless encampments. That's the other thing. If you're 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,759 homeless and you don't have a TikTok, dude, they have prisoner tiktoks. 44 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Really chill, What do they have TikTok in prison? They? What do 45 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,120 they film? Are they like here's ship dance? Now? To be fair, 46 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:14,479 they do like the cute little dances like. Prisons actually not hard at 47 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:16,879 all. Prisons are the opposite of being homeless, though, because you're perma 48 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,960 housed, you're not unhoused. You're perma house. Yeah, you can't be 49 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:28,560 homeless if you wanted to be, you're stuck. Well, home is where 50 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,599 the heart is that You're right, it's no longer homeless. It's houseless because 51 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:37,560 just because you don't have a roof over your head doesn't mean you don't have 52 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:42,120 a home. True. That's language is important. I did see a homeless 53 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,560 guy last time. I went paddle boarding on Ladybird Lake, just dumping out 54 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,919 on the side of the lake. It's just on the side of like dumping 55 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,400 out, and you continued to paddle board. I was in the middle of 56 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:58,360 the lake. What am I supposed to do? Go to shore? I 57 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,159 mean, dude, it is a big lake. That turn is not reaching 58 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:03,159 you. It's not like it was. It's a toilet that kills your dog. 59 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:06,199 It's already a toilet. Yeah, you shouldn't be in there at all. 60 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,120 It's fucking disgusting, the alga. It's like it's like people, it's 61 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,719 like it's unsafe for your dog going there because they'll die. But it's like, 62 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:16,000 but we can swim in it, Like what is what is the distinction 63 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:20,160 here? And I don't really touch the water? Bullshit. I don't get 64 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:23,639 in the water, bullshit. You put your legs in the water. No, 65 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:26,160 Ever, I stand. You don't sit down on the board ever, 66 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,240 No, I stand. You stand the whole time. And if I do 67 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:30,839 sit, I put my legs in. It's on the board. I don't 68 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:35,000 believe you fall off ever. I've never fallen off. Now, Really, 69 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,560 you got a good balance. I went paddle boarding once and I felt, 70 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:41,639 I know, like within a week of you moving here. Yeah, we 71 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,920 went living in the house, went paddle board and you lost your like two 72 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,920 hundred dollars sunglasses. No, there were one hundreds. There were ray bands, 73 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:49,240 And I just ditched the croquies because I was like, I'm not well, 74 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,279 I'm not a frat guy at South Carolina anymore. These don't really look 75 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:57,759 cool in Austin. So I ditched the crokies and I fell in a ray 76 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,399 band's bottom of Lady bird leg r. I p fucking tragic, dude. 77 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:05,560 That's a disgusting lake. I have that lake. Yeah, just a very 78 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,800 poor balance. Most lakes are like that though. No, No, Labor 79 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,519 Lake is like a small pond, but this but a huge like it's like 80 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,160 a small like just disgusting pond. Was the size of a lake. You 81 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,959 know what I mean? Yeah, do you think that's how Obama went or 82 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,399 his chef how he tied? I do appreciate. I started seeing conspiracy memes 83 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:35,360 about that from like hard hard right wingers, and I'm just like you guys, 84 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:44,879 the people who are by far the most to either A make a joke 85 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:49,360 about how black people can't swim or b and or B believe that black people 86 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:56,360 are terrible swimmers are now somehow looking at that black man and being like, 87 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,480 how did he drow? Well? Rob now a small pond and he was 88 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:03,680 a good swimmer and there was somebody with him. So it is it is 89 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:10,040 shady? Is it shady? And I don't know if it doesn't matter between 90 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,680 the Clintons Obama is like there's a lot of politicians where people that circle around 91 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,120 them just mysteriously die. Here's my thought on that, if I had to 92 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:25,519 take a guess, is that something is a foot rop. I don't think 93 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:31,480 it's a politician doing it. I think it's you know, like the same 94 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,839 way you send a message to someone by like killing their dog, Like you 95 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:42,720 come home and your dog's dead in the backyard, Like you kill their their 96 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:46,279 friends, their servants, their whatever, and in this case, they killed 97 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,040 Obama's secret lover, the chef. Oh I did. I did read that 98 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:54,199 as well. He was a he was a very attractive young black man Obama 99 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:58,199 was. I do have questions, So why was he on the property alone? 100 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:01,040 Like they just let him chill there when they're body guards, but they're 101 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,399 not there. They were there, they were there, they were there, 102 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:08,160 Okay, yeah, otherwise I'd be like, you're just letting them hang out. 103 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Hey, but hey, we're ring, we're rooting evergreen content here. 104 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:15,199 Yeah. Well, this guy's always dead, so this is a historical moment 105 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,680 at any point. Now you've listened to this. That guy's dead dead, 106 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:26,600 So that's evergreen. Oh Christ, Okay, that's that's a great way to 107 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:30,879 start today. You can't explain the Clinton thing though, right, there's like 108 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:34,519 sixteen names on that. I don't care. I mean, they shake a 109 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,000 lot of hands. No, I just I respect it. Like if you 110 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,040 can pull off that many murders, I'm like, oh shit, like tip 111 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,600 of the cap. It just fine. Like I just straight up don't care 112 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,600 about it because the one who was president was a fine president, and the 113 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,959 one they were scared of never got to be president? So what do you 114 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,959 fucking who cares? At this point, I don't know who's killed more people, 115 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Hillary Clinton or Kevin Spacey. Uh, I don't know. It's a 116 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,879 good question. Maybe it's a push, Yeah, I think, I think 117 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,279 again, we gotta call it push. It's a competition right now. That's 118 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,079 the thing. Like you get to heaven and they're like, welcome to Heaven, 119 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,680 and like all you want to ask is just like the numbers of stuff 120 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 like how many times did I come? Okay, how many people did Hillary 121 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,399 Clinton kill? You know? Like, or what I like that you want 122 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,959 to go to? Do you want to come on and go to have like 123 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:28,720 Saint Peter's like, come on, we can get experienced eternal joy. It's 124 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,000 like, I know, but I just want to see. I want to 125 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,799 I have a lot of questions I want to answer to you, and they're 126 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,799 all numeracle. It's like going to a baseball stats website and you're just like 127 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:39,879 how many home runs did you hit? Exactly your life stats? How many 128 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:43,600 times you came, how many times you took a ship? Yeah, how 129 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,679 many times? How many pounds of ship did I take? How many awkward 130 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:52,200 silences you had on first dates? How many how many chances you blew with 131 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,360 women? Yeah? Who could? Yeah? Who could you have? Like 132 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,519 you could have? Like this woman was right there and she had a huge 133 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,559 crush on you. She was giving you all these signals and these are these 134 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,600 are twenty signals you missed or like even in one moment where it's just like, 135 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,360 yeah, that night she would have fucked you, Like that would be 136 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,519 bad because if I I would find a way to kill myself after being dead. 137 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,919 Well, now it's heaven. You can just fuck her, right, 138 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,399 Like it's well, it might not be her, does that work? Right? 139 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Like if you were married, it's not her heaven anymore? Like if 140 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:24,279 you were you know, you're in heaven, which means like you were faithful, 141 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:26,200 I guess, But like, okay, but now you're in heaven, 142 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,679 do you get to just fuck who you want whenever? Nah? Bush. 143 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,360 I like to believe that you get reincarnated into the same life and you have 144 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,000 to live it over and over again until you perfect it. That's tight, 145 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,720 So you squander it all the time, and then what happens once you perfect 146 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:43,519 it? Then you go to nirvana. Now, then you just become like 147 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,600 a cicada or something. You start back at the bottom. You start back 148 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:50,480 at the bottom. It's like, we're giving you a harder challenge now, 149 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,840 so you have twenty four hours to live. Jesus. The whole point of 150 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,879 cicadas is they die, then cicadas. Then that you die, you go 151 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:01,240 to cicada heaven and they're like, do you could have fucked? That's cicada? 152 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:07,039 Go God. Cicadas are born. They just look really gross for twenty 153 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,919 four hours and then and then they're just like little limp bodies on the ground. 154 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,639 Well, those are their exoskeletons. They leave. Yeah, the soul 155 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:20,799 leaves them. No, they have an exoskeleton that they molt out of dode. 156 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:24,080 They die. They just die. They die too, but they they 157 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,240 they must live more than twenty four hours. This is in soft core biology. 158 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:31,879 Let's get into this week's episode. What are we talking about, Rob, 159 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,240 We are talking I like so I like to when we have a guest, 160 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Taylor, the topic to something that guests might find interesting. For example, 161 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,120 the last time you're on boush we talked about the Japanese soldiers that were 162 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:48,240 ripped to pieces of crocodile. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that was a great 163 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,480 one. Yeah, I thought. I just thought. I saw that topic 164 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:54,360 and I was like, this will resonate with Boush. You think I'm just 165 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,360 a sick bastard, but I do. I do like some gore. I 166 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,159 mean, you did want a TFM try to write types of vaginas by Arby 167 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:09,120 sand Yeah, Ross Bowlan shot it down because it was quote unquote two sociopathic 168 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,639 to describe types of vaginas as depicted with Arby. I was gonna buy a 169 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:16,320 bunch of army sandwiches, arranged them in different ways for the one on its 170 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,879 period, I was gonna sprinkle some ketchup on it. This was like twenty 171 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,360 fifteen. It would have played. It was totally would have played with the 172 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:26,919 audience of total frat movie would have played. That would have been one of 173 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,240 the best pieces of content we ever did. And it's insane. There were 174 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:35,120 several people against it, but I fought for you well up articles. One 175 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,639 eventually published. It was the race, you know, the story of him 176 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,240 masturbating with a banana peel. Oh did they reject that on that one? 177 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:45,519 I think they were always for that one. No. No, they shot 178 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:50,039 that down immediately like Dylan did, and then we published it months later. 179 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Because remember you wrote it as an intern and then we published it when you 180 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:56,320 got the job. Oh okay, I didn't. I didn't remember this. 181 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,799 It was just in the draft for a long time, and I think it 182 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,720 was like it was down day. It was like, oh shit, nothing's 183 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,120 happening. Publish the booche banana peel story. That was a good one, 184 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,919 dude. People people still ask me about that one. It was one of 185 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,080 your best. Yeah. No, the race, the ranking the races, 186 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,919 that was that was Dave's idea. But he was like, that was that 187 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,759 was my idea. It was your idea. I gave it to you. 188 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:18,600 Yeah. Oh I thought I thought it was dazing. But he was like 189 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,679 I can't write this. Okay, types of races as and then it was 190 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,000 like okay, we're going to rank the types of races. And then and 191 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:28,600 the picture was like a black and white checkered flag. So you're like, 192 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,639 okay, this is gonna be a black ras and it was I was like 193 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,559 Kentucky Derby, you know, NASCAR and stuff like that. And then number 194 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,360 one was just white people and it was like a gift of like people driving 195 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,360 tractors. Like yeah, but you're like it could go, it could apply 196 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,000 to both races and races because it was a black and white checker f it 197 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,559 was. It was very ti I gave you that idea. I was like, 198 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,759 I can't write that, and not that I couldn't like it. I 199 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,960 was just like, but I was running video at that point, so I 200 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,519 was like, you're you write every day, will you do this right? 201 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,039 So we wanted to show up at the office noon every day and a real 202 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,480 piece of shit, you know. Yeah, I knew that wasn't a boosh 203 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,519 original, but I did make it My no, no, no, no, 204 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:13,279 no was for you wrote that. That is like saying that someone who 205 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,440 wrote like one of the best episodes of the Office doesn't get credit because he 206 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,919 didn't create the office. Yeah, but that the joke of that article. 207 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,080 Why that article was funny, wasn't me writing about the Kentucky Derby. It 208 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:30,559 was the concept itself was what made it funny. So I think it was 209 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,399 the punchline that you came up with. The punchline, oh the white people 210 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:37,519 at the end. Yeah, you came up with the punchline. But I 211 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,480 came up with the concept of you should rank the races and then like like 212 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,879 finish it off in a like anyway subversive way. So yeah, if you 213 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:50,279 look up a Total Freightmove dot com on Google Ranking the Races, you can 214 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,320 still find it on you have to search it by actual name. But anyway, 215 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,600 yeah, you didn't get specifically. Oh that has to say. I 216 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,600 thought, Booch she you would enjoy this episode, you like, because you 217 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 liked to get a little out there. We're gonna get a little We're a 218 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,679 little out there. We are a little Graham Hancock today. What if, 219 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:11,519 well, if there was somebody thought of the ranking the Races column before before 220 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,039 it was bostoel Sports. Uh yeah, we stole that one from barstool. 221 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,799 Actually yeah, yeah, uh, you're right on the internet. Oh shit, 222 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:22,879 you stole that from barstool. Yeah, dude, we're the first one 223 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:28,399 to put words on the internet, you bitch. So today we're talking about 224 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:35,399 Native American legends. Specifically, a ton of Native Americans all have a legend 225 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:41,759 about the exact same thing. Different Native American tribes, not necessarily in contact 226 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:45,879 with each other, all over the continent, all over the continents actually, 227 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:50,039 because this expands to South America, have a legend about the same thing, 228 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,360 no way, and they they did communicate with each other back then though not. 229 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,679 I mean, like, yes, tribes were in contact with other tribes, 230 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,080 but like a pyramid, a tribe in Washington was a cell phone teller. 231 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,279 Actually a tribe, a tribe in Arizona was not necessarily in contact with 232 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,399 a tribe in Mississippi. It was just a really long game of telephone. 233 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Maybe maybe maybe, or it actually happened. Yeah. Specifically, we are 234 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:28,679 talking about Native American legends, about the potential other race of people who lived 235 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:35,320 in the Americas, sick the giants, giants. Yes, now we have 236 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:41,200 talked about this before, kind of we did an episode about one race of 237 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,559 those giants. Specifically. What I did not realize is that a ship ton 238 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,519 of Native American tribes have very similar legends. Now, if you listened to 239 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:52,679 I think it was on the Patreon before, could have been on the Man 240 00:15:52,440 --> 00:16:00,000 and so not the homos not no, this is no Homo the giant. 241 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,480 They're no homo. They're no homo. We're homos, we're homo Homo sapiens. 242 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:10,200 Actually I think everyone's homo, like Neanderthals or Homo neanderthalis. So actually 243 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 everyone's homo. Okay, so full homo. Well yeah, well every yeah, 244 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:18,879 if you're a If you are a hominid or whatever like us, then 245 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,960 you are Yeah, you're homo. Wow, don't call me a homo. 246 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,919 Almost you are almost apiens. You're a homo. Well, yeah, it's 247 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:33,519 true. Yeah, no, I did hear about the you know, there 248 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,279 was like there's that photo where it's like the two like snake oil salesman looking 249 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,519 dudes next to a giant and that turned out to be like made Yeah, 250 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:44,240 yeah, no, it wasn't ai Like they actually as a real photo, 251 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:48,320 but the giant was made out of like like wax. Oh okay, Like 252 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,200 that was fake, but it was based off these legends that so they all 253 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,440 have the same legends about giants. Where did the turquoise jewelry come into play? 254 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,480 Well, that's only in the Southwest, and that's the people don't realize 255 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,279 this, but most of the Southwest used to be made of turquoise. The 256 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,359 roads were paid with turquoise. Yeah, they rode on turquoise roads. Wait 257 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:18,240 are you serious? And yeah, and they used to catch dreams for real, 258 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:23,119 but we killed their magic. The magic is gone, damn it. 259 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:27,119 Magic has been gone. Fucking Avatar. So we talked about the Sitka, 260 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:33,319 which is a race of redheaded giants who were who's defeating And we talked about 261 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:37,400 that with Jesse. Yeah. I don't know how to put this genocide is 262 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,000 celebrated by the Paiutes of of Nevada. That's the tribe. They're like, 263 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,599 yeah, dude, we ended that race and it was a great victory for 264 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:53,839 us. Okay, so you're telling me the natives took the land. Kind 265 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:56,960 of natives wage genocide on these giants? But how are they able to beat 266 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,799 off these beat off? I keep saying beat off? Why were they? 267 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:03,640 Hell? Are they able to defeat these giants? Because they were beating them 268 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,680 off? Yeah? Exhaustion. Uh they so these ones, I think they 269 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,359 just outnumbered them and they they trapped them in a cave and then like lit 270 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,400 a fire at the front of the cave and associated them bigger targets. They 271 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,279 were probably like the elephants recording the stories. They weren't, although I think 272 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,279 I have a theory on that that we'll get to Big Tree fall hard. 273 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,960 Yeah big Tree mean so yeah, I didn't realize that there were a ton 274 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:33,079 of Native American uh myths and legends not only about races of giants, but 275 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,000 specifically about having to kill races of giants. What if they were ground sloths. 276 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Humans did overlap with ground slots a lot, and they were they were. 277 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:48,279 I had This is why I had bouchon because one of my theories was 278 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,559 they were talking about grounds loss. Yes, dude, I'm so glad. 279 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,640 Well they worked out a bunch of giant animals. So they did. They 280 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,680 did. So one I'll jump to this real quick. So there was a 281 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:07,480 thing when a merit when the Native Americans got to uh America called the Oh 282 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:10,400 God, I should probably clarify with ground sauce art. They were basically they 283 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,119 looked just like the treat slauce we have, except they're like fifteen feet tall, 284 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,559 and they walked on the ground very slowly and had kind of hands, 285 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:21,720 and you know, they looked kind of like people, not really, they 286 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:26,359 were like they were human esque, and that they had two legs, two 287 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:29,759 arms, they could stand up, they had hands like grabbing hands. While 288 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:33,759 they sound like they caught hands from the fucking natives, they sure did. 289 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,920 They looked enough like people to say they were a race of giants. Yes, 290 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,319 I think it's plausible that they so. My theory is one of two 291 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:51,720 things happened or a combination of the two. There is no genetic evidence that 292 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:57,119 the current No, there's no genetic evidence currently that the current Native Americans that 293 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:03,000 we know, the American that we know was here before like fourteen, fifteen 294 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,599 thousand years ago something like that. However, we have found evidence that there 295 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:12,119 were people here prior to that. There's new evidence showing the footprints. I 296 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,720 talked about this, I think in the CTC NO. I talked about this 297 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:17,920 in the other episode where we're like, man, thank god the name Americans 298 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,640 killed all the fucked up animals that used to live here. They found footprints 299 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,759 and stuff like that. Other evidence that people were here at least twenty thousand 300 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:30,319 years ago, But genetically that predates what we know now is Native Americans. 301 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,759 Right, were they really big footprints? They weren't. So here's they weren't 302 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,680 necessarily big footprints. But I don't know, Okay, So I have two 303 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,279 theories, and it could be a combination of the two about what these giants 304 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:45,680 were and I'll just get to them now before before we can get into it. 305 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:47,799 Also, giants were going to leave footprints. They're in the sky, 306 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,039 it declined, being intuf construa. Oh yeah, of course, people forget 307 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,839 so they'll never leave footprints. That was kind of a fucked up story, 308 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,480 right, Like this giant is just vibing in the sky, like eating vegetables, 309 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:02,039 and then a home intruder comes in. Yeah, this guy comes into 310 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,200 his house and fucking murders him, like he was just vibing. The amount 311 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:11,200 of fairy tales that involve a protagonist breaking into an innocent person's home and then 312 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,519 that innocent person defending their home and being the bad guy somehow. Yeah, 313 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:21,400 this is stand your ground stage Goldilocks, Like, yeah, dude, fuck 314 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:23,359 do she just wrecked those bears lives up. But dude, like, think 315 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,000 about just the dragon sitting on the pile of gold. He's just trying to 316 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:32,960 protect people from the corruption of wealth. Little Red He's like, he's like, 317 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,920 when these people get when this night gets this money, what's gonna happen. 318 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,960 He's gonna create a fucking awful society. He's going to be corrupt with 319 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 it. The Dragon's gonna sit on that gold to make sure that, you 320 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,319 know, an awful person doesn't get their hands on the little Red roding hood. 321 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:49,240 Uh. She breaks into her grandma's house that was then taken by a 322 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:55,400 wolf but kind of back then though, if you kill the homeowner, it's 323 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,359 your home is eminent domain, yeah, eminent domain, wolves on the home, 324 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,880 yes, yeah, another protagon is breaking in squ squatter's rights. So 325 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,680 my two theories are one, they're talking about grounds loss, and interestingly enough, 326 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,559 when Native America, the current iteration of Native Americans moved in uh was 327 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:22,240 around, they started or helped precipitate the late Quaternary megafauna extinction. So a 328 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,079 bench of essentially all the giant animals around the world, but especially in the 329 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:32,240 Americas, died off. Mammos, grounds loss, the American lion, the 330 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,599 giant American bear, which was like way bigger than a grizzly, all that 331 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,880 type of stuff, a ton more too. We did a whole episode on 332 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,440 it. It's one of our best. You should check it out. I 333 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,720 think it's on the main isn't it that one? Yeah? Yeah, it's 334 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:47,759 one of my favorite episodes I've ever done. Check it out. All of 335 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:55,880 them died off. So theory A is that they're talking about grounds loss, 336 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,240 which I imagine we're quite freaky. Oh and she game of telephone down through 337 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,720 the generations oral tradition all the way, race of giants that they killed. 338 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,160 They but I mean, these are peaceful animals. They're not gonna well, 339 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:15,119 not like a hard thing to Okay, I'm giving you my theories. And 340 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,480 then they gassed it up for the for the clout, you know, they 341 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,839 you know, they played up the fact that they were violent and just to 342 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:25,599 make themselves look cooler. So I'll give you my theories and then i'll run 343 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,640 through the evidence and you can tell me if you like either the theories better 344 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:32,960 or if you have your own theory. Okay, So theory B they ran 345 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,039 into other people because other people were here. We don't know how widespread the 346 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:41,720 other people were. Absolutely here, they ran into other people. Do you 347 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,079 think it was like an episode of Sliders? Or they just went into the 348 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,640 old Old West? What they slid forward, they slid backwards? So like 349 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:56,960 the fucking cast of Sliders just went into the old Americas and ran into these 350 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,920 people and then killed them. They got killed. Oh, they got killed. 351 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,440 Maybe they'd be taller because they'd be our height. And by the way, 352 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:14,920 these giants were mostly known as white giants. Makes you think that really 353 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,319 doesn't make me think at all. Yeah, Jeri o'connelsill allow to think he 354 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,240 is very much makes you think if you don't think about it very much, 355 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,000 the other theories that they ran into these people killed them off, slash starved 356 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:33,599 them off. Essentially. It's the same way the way we kind of killed 357 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,480 and choked out Neanderthals when we got to Europe and stuff like that in the 358 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,200 Steiner Recliner. Essentially. Yeah, the sort of like generational long Stunner Recliner 359 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,920 fucked them a little bit, killed them a little bit, starved them a 360 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,079 little bit, just kept taking their land, taking them. I think they 361 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:55,640 fucked them a lot. That's why white people exist. Uh maybe like humans 362 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,720 would have just been black if they didn't fuck Neanderthals. I don't think that's 363 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,599 accurate. I'm pretty sure it is. So humans were from Africa, they 364 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,759 were all black, and they went they were, and Neanderthals were, and 365 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:10,039 the Neanthras were white. Most people are also from like Turkey. No, 366 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720 but they all started in Africa. No. I think I think the skin 367 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,880 color change is climate changed. It's all where you are and how much sun 368 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,519 exposure you have. I positive it's just I'm pretty sure banging the wheat and 369 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,839 Neanderthals kickstarted the white gene and well we came from Adam and Eve of course, 370 00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:32,400 yes, who were white white people. Yeah, yes, yes, 371 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,119 and the Garden of Vedens in Missouri, Jesus was white. It must have 372 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,920 been so hard for Jesus being the only white person in the Middle East. 373 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:44,240 I helped them for a while. You're saying, the son of God couldn't 374 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:47,440 choose his complexion. Dad, I want to be uh, I want to 375 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,799 be a white one. You're avatars. They win in the end, I 376 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:53,839 think, so, well, I guess we'll just go white now. Uh 377 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,599 So my other theory is that they fought this other ray. It was a 378 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:03,200 Neanderthal situation essentially, but there was a lot of conflict, like proto warfare. 379 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,759 I guess you could say, and you know, the winner's right history, 380 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,720 right, So you can't just say, yeah, we showed up and 381 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:17,160 these guys were here, still we killed them, because people will be like, 382 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:19,680 oh, but that's kind of fucked up, because remember we got mad 383 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240 at those guys were trying to do it to us, and but we did 384 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,799 it. So you have to say, like, oh, we showed up 385 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:32,039 and this race of manning and giants was they were horrible. Well, essentially, 386 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:33,519 it probably just started with and they were horrible. But then it gets 387 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,480 just starting and then the guys like yeah, and they're really big too, 388 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,960 Yeah, all that stuff. They were giants. And then the next stage 389 00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,640 and they ate people and stole women and then no, Rob, All of 390 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,759 a sudden you have moral dilemmas and you have to come up with something and 391 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,559 not just go fuck them. Here's the thing. Fuck them plays for me. 392 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,200 I don't think it plays for all these people. Yeah, fuck them, 393 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,519 we're here. Fuck them. So my theory is it's either a B 394 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,759 or A and B combined. It's probably a little bit of both because you 395 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:08,079 never know what the ground slow stuff. Were there ground sauce in North America? 396 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Yes, a shit ton? Yeah, So here is what I here. 397 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:22,680 We're gonna go run through the the evidence here. Hold on, cut 398 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Are we good? That was sorry? That's like totally threw me out. 399 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,240 You just turn that off. Yeah, okay, all right. So, 400 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,119 like I said, as we established in the other shows that we've done, 401 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:47,680 people have been here a lot longer than the genetic Native Americans as far as 402 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,640 we know. Archaeologist Cyprian Ardelian, who works on prehistoric sites in Mexico, 403 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,920 thinks that there could be human activity in the Americans as far back as thirty 404 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,319 thousand years And like I said, these people genetically distinct from the Americans we 405 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,599 know today. Are they redheaded? They don't know that. I don't think 406 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,440 they have any way of knowing that. I don't I don't know they've I 407 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,400 don't think they an't even knowing that. I'll just say that. And you 408 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240 know, came a geneticist at the University of Cambride says, this would suggests 409 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,880 the initial colonists of the Americas replaced when the Ice Corridor formed and other colonists 410 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:23,519 came in Native Americans. Blah blah blah, so on and so forth. 411 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,559 Now, by the way, all of this is not to say that whatever 412 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,000 the Spanish and English and Americans didn't and Canadians and whoever else did it, 413 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,799 naive Americans is justified because Native Americans did it thirteen thousand years ago. No, 414 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,400 no, No, that's how logic works. Okay, fair enough, 415 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,960 it is justified. Fair enough, do onto your enemy what they have already 416 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,240 done. Yes, I mean, that's just the way humans do. That's 417 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,079 how we can murk each other. Yeah. In the words of Florida Georgia 418 00:28:53,119 --> 00:29:00,640 Line this is how we roll. This is how we roll. Just like 419 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:07,559 as you're scalping someone's faces, it is wild trying to like hold yourself accountable 420 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:11,759 for what your ancestors did. It's not wild, it's insane. It is. 421 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,119 It's like, yeah, the world's been mostly violent. Yeah, still 422 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,680 is. It still is. But we live under this kind of misconception that 423 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:27,720 everyone was chilling. Everything's just okay. Now yeah, we've evolved a species. 424 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:32,440 Now. There was like it's because like the nineties. My theory is 425 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,400 that the nineties people were like, we did it. History is over. 426 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,160 It seemed like it though it did seem like it, and then nine to 427 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,279 eleven happened. Literally, it is weird to think about. We are currently 428 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,119 living through history that will one day be talked about. Yeah, yeah, 429 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:49,480 no one's gonna talk about it. You know what, history was over in 430 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:53,960 the nineties, and then planes at the towers and they were like history too, 431 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,279 history too, And that's the Roman time. The Roman numeral is the 432 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:04,559 town towers. Yeah yeah, oh ship, oh ship History Part two. 433 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:10,440 These are Masonic symbols for sure, So flash that sign and you won't get 434 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,319 home. Dude. Someone have one of your callers teach us the Masonic sign. 435 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,160 I'll trade technically, what's that? I think I am a freemason? 436 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,839 Why because I'm a Fiji and I think it's like, no, that's Acacia's 437 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:27,920 freemason. No, we are too, oh weird. What's your distress symbols? 438 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Right? You have a distress symbol? Yeah, this is so funny, 439 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,519 Like you're getting jumped and you're like, we just kind of do like, 440 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240 no, we won't attack him. He just just we do a luau 441 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,839 dance. That's cool. I am ours? Is I just we just you 442 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,240 just open your mouth and then they just stick it in whatever, well, 443 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,079 whatever they want to put in. Yeah, that's that's brotherhood. Yeah. 444 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,559 Uh so let's start to our story with an article from the New Yor Times 445 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:08,960 published February ninth, eighteen ninety headline race of Indian Giants. The clip from 446 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:15,599 the story that was the headline, Yeah, race of Indian Giants. I'd 447 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,079 continue to read, yeah right, yeah, but I'd be like, is 448 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,480 it a race like a potato sack race? Or is it we have to 449 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,400 read to find out? Yea, yeah, you have more questions and answers 450 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,920 from that headline, A giant in a potato sack will be funny. That 451 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,440 would be I would watch that. That's just like watching him in race and 452 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,000 socks at that point in us sock us trying to like fit into a sock 453 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,599 if it's a sock for him. Yeah, us, it's a sack. 454 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200 So the article says. Part of the article says, doctor Charles A. 455 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Abbott, curator of the association, is continuing the search and the skeletons ought 456 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,400 to be shipped to the university at once. They run in a size from 457 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,000 a small child to several of seven feet in height, and one supposed to 458 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:59,559 be an old medicine man. Why goal must have been at least eight feet 459 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,759 in height. So allegedly in New Jersey. This is not even in New 460 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:09,119 Mexico where they found the old footprints from way Pass when Native American supposed to 461 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,480 hear of these giants. It's a newspaper from an academics from eighteen ninety. 462 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,519 So take it with a big fucking grain of salt. But this article, 463 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920 like I said, to cite in New Jersey and they're fineing giants. Yeah, 464 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,160 this was the was this the one with the photo that was proven to 465 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,799 be fake? There was no photo. Ok, this is in the New 466 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,880 York Times. There's no photo. It was just a little columna. Next, 467 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,000 so we'll start with we're gonna run through these legends, all right. 468 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,079 Start with the legend that the Choctaw have. They were a tribe that lived 469 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:49,039 in modern day Mississippi. In the eighteen ninety nine book History of the Choctaw 470 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:55,440 Chickasaw Natchez Indians, it says they told of a race of giants who once 471 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,279 inhabited the state of Tennessee, so just north of them, and whom their 472 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:07,759 ancestors fought when they arrived in Mississippi in their migration from the west. So 473 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,799 what it tells two, by the way, is one, they're coming down 474 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,920 and over right, Because if you're coming into Mississippi and you're going the Native 475 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,559 path, you're coming up over the land bridge down, you're going west, 476 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,519 right, you're going west to east. So they're coming from the west. 477 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,319 So that tracks by the way, they weren't going east to west like the 478 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,039 European colonizers. They were going west to east like the colonizers that they were 479 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,279 the Asian, Native American whatever ones that walked over the frozen bridge right, 480 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,920 and they ran into a race of giants just north of them in Tennessee. 481 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:52,039 So the feeding habits, I'm sorry. They called these giants nahulo and they 482 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:59,799 were allegedly cannibals who the Choctaw killed whenever the opportunity arose again, cannibals. 483 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:05,359 No, they should have been called no hose though. No what no hose 484 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,159 though? No hose though, because they ain't had no hands. Funny you 485 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:13,320 say that. We'll get to that. A lack of hose is their downfall, 486 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,280 that's why they were uh kind of, I guess a lack of hose 487 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,880 was their downfall though. There's a bunch of dudes it's brown out. Well, 488 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,679 so the chalk Taw killed them whenever they saw there. It was killed 489 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,480 on site for the Choctaw because they were cannibals, which sounds to me like 490 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:38,000 chalk Taw propaganda. Yeah, oh, that's weird. The natives were killing 491 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:46,639 them because they were savages. Huh. Funny how that gets turned around, 492 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,000 right, even if it's a legend, it is hilarious. It's like, 493 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,039 no, no, no, we only killed them because they were savage. 494 00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:01,039 Yoh fuck uh? They really do be your own words. And by the 495 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:06,239 way, how could they be cannibals if they're a different race. Yeah, 496 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,719 they're eating you. Yeah, or were they eating each other? Maybe too? 497 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:13,920 Maybe so these know Hulo, I don't know. If something eats a 498 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480 person, it's a cannibal in my mind. Even if it's like a mountain 499 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:20,519 lion, that's a cannibalistic mountain lion. Yeah, they consider them the same 500 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:25,440 species, just bigger shark attack, it's a cannibalistic shark. I guess if 501 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,400 you eat a gorilla, I mean you're cannibal adjacent. If you eat a 502 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,679 chimp, yeah, would you eat a shimp? I mean if I had 503 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,880 nothing, I mean if it was already dead obviously, but like, yeah, 504 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,840 you try it. It doesn't seem like a good meat. Yeah, 505 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,719 it's probably very Yeah, really, dude, chimps. Chimps are smart, 506 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,519 though, I feel bad. Have you seen the show Chimp Empire on Netflix? 507 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,559 No, it's a dude, it is. It's like Game of Thrones, 508 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:59,199 Like they have little clicks and and different guys that want to be the 509 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,760 alpha, and they'll kind of team up with each other and they'll they'll kind 510 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,440 of work and like make little alliances to try to overthrow the alpha. And 511 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:10,199 I will say, in the future, AI Robotic wars to come. I 512 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:14,920 think we need to align with the Chimps. We do need. Yeah, 513 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,840 just give them some guns, dude, they could pick it up. Don't 514 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,119 disagree with that. Like Planet of the as terrible propaganda. Have you learned 515 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:27,000 nothing from history? Dan, Once you give guns to the person that you 516 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,480 think will help you will just turn on you in the future. The Chimp 517 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:32,760 war is down the road. First we kill the robots, then we can 518 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,440 worry about the show. It's like teaming with the Soviets and World War Two. 519 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,880 No, no, it's it's Afghanistan. It's teaming with Laden exactly. 520 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,840 Same yeah, same thing. Yeah, Like we'll worry about in later the 521 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,320 Chimps will crash into the New World Trade Center, the Freedom Tower. So 522 00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:52,800 these Hulo, well, I mean, fucking King Kong already climbed the empire 523 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,079 stable. You know how to do it. Theyn Hulo are mentioned in Choctaws 524 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:05,400 stories alongside mamos Chalkcaw tell of mammos they hunted. That is in their myth 525 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,719 and legend. That is not a retcon. That's a point for the ground 526 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,320 sloss theory, or it's a point for just there were other people there. 527 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000 I don't think it's a point either way. Actually, I think that they're 528 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:22,000 just essentially that they are confirming that there were other people, whether it be 529 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,000 ground sloss or other people alongside mammos. The fact that they had mammos in 530 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:32,239 their tails, which was not necessarily archaeologically confirmed, I don't think for a 531 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,159 long time, certainly not when they're telling the story in the sixteen seventeen hundreds. 532 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:43,159 Right, we don't know the mammos. That's fascinating to me. Allegedly, 533 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:50,079 these nahulo ate bark and leaves from trees Sloth Point, that is Sloth 534 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:53,880 Point, and they also fought each other frequently. Eventually they ran out a 535 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,920 hose. There were only two males left. And a lot of the times 536 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,199 these these giants fought on site, like not just Chalkdot killing them, They 537 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,280 fought each other on site a lot too. So the two giants were roaming 538 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,480 the forest. Eventually there was only two males left. Eventually they found each 539 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,400 other, fought, one killed the other. There was only one. He 540 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:21,159 wanted around the forest alone, but king and died, and thus his race 541 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:27,280 died today. No, he he dead. It's Bigfoot. We'll get into 542 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,280 that. That comes up. No, it doesn't yeah, well, of 543 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,400 course it does. Of course it does about giants in America. Of course 544 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:44,960 Bigfoot comes up with the Yeti Asian it's a himalayas Yeah, Yeti's Asian, 545 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,320 and uh Bigfoot is Americano. So the feeding habits, like I said, 546 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,239 make it sounds it could be sloss, but other details don't really line up 547 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,760 with that. The Oka na hulo, which is what they're also called, 548 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,800 we're known as also known as white people of the water. They dwelled in 549 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,679 deep pools, had light skins, the skins of trout apparently, which is 550 00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,960 I don't know that that's true at all, but that does not sound at 551 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,960 all like a furry sloth. They had scales, skin of a trout, 552 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,880 weird, rough, scaly skin that sounds more like a weird maybe rough skinned, 553 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,920 a reptilian perhaps perhaps. And they still run everything to the elite. 554 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,519 It's true. Yeah, they live in Denver. That motherfucker right there is 555 00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:39,320 not real. They were believed to sometimes capture human beings who they converted into 556 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,599 beings like themselves. That was also a thing. Now maybe that could mean 557 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:49,079 they raped them basically, because stealing women was typically the uh, and the 558 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,320 women had babies stealing women was typically the accusation. I guess you could say, 559 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,280 could they cross pollenate? Definitely? I mean we crossed pollen a with 560 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,719 Neanderthals. It works, yeah, you Yeah, a donkey can fuck a 561 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,800 zebra. A donkey can get fucked by yeah, but a mule can't reproduce, 562 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,440 right, yeah, neither can of I don't know if a donkey can't 563 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,039 either, So we were just spitting out mules maybe. I don't know. 564 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:22,719 How does a donkey reach a zebra when mounting it? I think usually the 565 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,679 donkeys are on the receiving end. If I had a guess, oh yeah, 566 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,719 probably you ever go zebra hunting here? No, I know he's go 567 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,760 to a ranch and just start mowing them down. Yeah, and I know 568 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,519 we you know you can pay it it, get up in a helicopter and 569 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:43,800 shoot wild bores. But here hunting? Yeah, dude, you can just 570 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239 corner the corner to the zebra because obviously it's fenced in, and then you 571 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,360 just you pay, you pay to go shoot zebras. Yeah, throw grenade 572 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,679 at one. No way, really just cooked it? Did you really do 573 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,639 this? Yeah? How are you done? In man? He as Texas 574 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,639 does gets Yeah, he breaks about a lot. We don't really care not 575 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,000 but since Jake's not here, he's trying to take in Take me, take 576 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,079 me next time you go zebra hunting, I'll throw a grenade as zebra. 577 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,360 I'm pretty sick, to be honest, that would I mean, it would 578 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,639 be really sad and it might like kind of haunt my dreams. But now, 579 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,920 what is the zebra doing here in Texas? I mean we brought him 580 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,920 over. It's hot, nos, Yeah, what's kind of asking for it 581 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,039 at this point? You know you, you know you can zebra asked to 582 00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,280 be brought here and just try to just chill an eat grass, go back 583 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,239 to Africa, zebra. Yeah. Do you think the horses are race racist 584 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,360 towards the Zebras, like, get off, get out of my cun Hey, 585 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,719 they're not from here either, but they're European, right, so well 586 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,920 on a lot of europe people of European ancestry here, yell it, people 587 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,840 are black ancestry here to be like, hey, go back to your content. 588 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:57,320 We're staying. Yeah, horses are like we say, nay to Zebras 589 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,119 being here. It's fair. They only horses. They only see the black 590 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:06,800 half exactly. Sad so are they what it with black strips or black with 591 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,280 white strips. If you're half black, you're all black. I think that's 592 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,000 how that works. That is certainly how that worked in the Jim Crow South. 593 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:15,559 It wasn't like, no, my dad's white's like, I don't think 594 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:21,719 it works for logic. What I don't think it works for logic? The 595 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,639 rapper, Like if he said the N word, it's almost questionable because he's 596 00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:29,840 too pale. Drake says it. Drake's black though, fully no, but 597 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,960 logic's half and half. But like he's more white if you just look at 598 00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:37,360 him. Okay, I don't care about the whatever. He can say whatever 599 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,719 he wants. I think he has. Like the lyrics and my blood is 600 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,320 both slave and Master Christ. All right, anyway, in the Southwest, 601 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,639 that's hard lyric. It's a terrible lyric. Yeah. The Namajo have their 602 00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:58,679 own story about white giants U the Stanark I'm sorry the yeah Starnak sorry Starnak 603 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,320 or stern Ark people of Navajo legend. They described the Nava described them as 604 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,920 a quote unquote regal race of white giants who were like way more advanced than 605 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,320 current white people. Like They note that specifically by the way, they're like, 606 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,440 yeah, they were way better than the US. Oh, Aliens, 607 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,280 maybe they were great. They had mining technology, they dominated the West, 608 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,960 they enslaved lesser tribes. They were also way better at art, and then 609 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,480 they were either killed or quote unquote went back to the heavens. They had 610 00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:40,760 better tattoos. Certainly they probably like holographic tattoos. Shit, we missed out 611 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,039 on this race of people. Yeah, well, I guess they're bitches because 612 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:46,760 they lost. And this is just I would say, this is just the 613 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,320 chalk Saws or whoever trying to just like make themselves look mightier by being like, 614 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,719 well, we killed this really advanced group of people, but really they 615 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,320 were just fucking ground slows. Yeah, now this is the nava. That 616 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,519 one was the Nava O sec one. The Commanches have a similar story. 617 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,840 The Commanches lived in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Colorado. Their giants 618 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:14,239 were also elite like dope. Chief Rolling Thunder of the Comanches said in eighteen 619 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,159 fifty seven of their white giants that quote unquote innumerable moons ago a race of 620 00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:24,079 white men ten feet high and far more rich and powerful than any white people 621 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:29,400 now living. So he was just dunking on. You guys are bitches compared 622 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,679 to these other whites really better, And then how come you can't beat us? 623 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:37,639 Then here inhabited a large range of country, extending from the rising sun 624 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:43,280 to the setting sun. Their fortifications crowned the summits of the mountains, protecting 625 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:49,320 their populous cities, populous cities situated in the intervening valleys. Also, they 626 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:55,079 excelled every other nation which was which was flourished either before or since, in 627 00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:59,480 all manner of cunning handicraft. They were brave and warlike, so they were 628 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:04,239 dope, ruling over the land they had wrested from its ancient possessors with a 629 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,599 high and haughty hand. Compared with compared with them, the pale faces of 630 00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:12,039 present day were pigmies, both in art and arms. So they were way 631 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,280 better creatively, way way better at war. I think you might have been 632 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,639 dunking one. How did they how did they conquer them? How did they 633 00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:21,159 defeat them? If you think so much more advanced, do you think they 634 00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:28,280 were vikings they got here earlier? No, I don't. I thought about 635 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:34,239 that, But I don't think that was dope. Tall white men good at 636 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,519 war. Vikings would be a good theory. I don't think they were in 637 00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:44,199 like Oklahoma, anybody from Nordic just came over and just kind of slowly expanded. 638 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,159 It sounded like there were too many of them for that to be the 639 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,239 case. Did the did this tribe of Native Americans describe how they were able 640 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:58,000 to defeat them? Not this one. Also, I just think it would 641 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:05,119 have been further back than essentially one thousand eight or eleven dy whatever it was. 642 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,159 Okay, it seems like it would have been further back than that. 643 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:15,440 The Manta tribe of Peru when Spanish coloniers arrived. Colonizers arrived in the fifteen 644 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:21,760 hundreds, they were like, oh, you guys came on these weird boats. 645 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,960 Cool, not even the first ones. Actually, there were these giants 646 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:30,679 that came here and they were perverts, so we had to murder them. 647 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:37,239 They were perverts. They specifically said that the giants showed up in boats made 648 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:44,119 of reeds that were huge, humongous boats. Did they talk about the giants 649 00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:49,920 hogs? They did not directly, although the implication is that they're pretty big 650 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,519 because a human would only go up to their knee, like an adult human 651 00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,199 being would only go up to these giants, so you would think their peace 652 00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,159 would be proportional. Yeah, so they're probaby, just intimidated because they had 653 00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:07,880 big dicks, well apparently, and they were all proportional. Actually they did 654 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:15,559 mention specifically they were proportional. And they said though that they had like horrific 655 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:22,800 sexual habits, elaborate I didn't like they didn't elaborate sexual I mean, this 656 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920 sounds like it could be that could be Vikings. You know, the Vikings 657 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,599 were known to rape pillage. True, I don't know. You know, 658 00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:36,400 the Vikings were you know, they were bigger than the Native Americans or the 659 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,679 Peruvian. None of this sounds like a ground sloth. So get that fucking 660 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,239 theory out. It doesn't. Yeah, I mean here's the problem, different 661 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,320 thing in different places. Peru is on the Pacific Ocean. So my guess 662 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,320 with Peru, if it wasn't people that were already there. So actually this 663 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,480 one with Peru, the Peruvian story in particular, I think this is an 664 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,280 outlier. And you know what, I think they're talking about Polynesian yep, 665 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,039 I think they're talking about Polynesians read boats, that is Polynesian. Oh yeah, 666 00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,320 and they're they're a huge Moti're huge. The rocks just coming over and 667 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,119 murk people left and right. And again they're like, yeah, they were 668 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:14,440 fucking huge, and they were huge certainly, but they weren't you know, 669 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,559 you only go up to their knee. But obviously the game of telephone yeah 670 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,480 goes over time and they're like, yeah, these guys were fucking psychos. 671 00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:22,960 Yeah they were, they were they were huge, and we killed them broke 672 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:25,920 they were five inches taller. We became five feet taller. Yeah, yep. 673 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,760 I think they are specifically talking like that fish. That fish Grandpa catches 674 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,559 gets bigger every time, every time he tells the story. I forgot to 675 00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:38,280 choose my race, Like at birth, I would have chosen like Samelan really 676 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,880 because I don't know, man was naturally bigger. You get to have travel. 677 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440 Yeah, but they're also very just like happy people. Like it looks 678 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,679 like like I've seen the documentaries about living there, they all it seems like 679 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:55,760 a sweet life. They don't like whites a lot. Why would they, 680 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,760 there's a lot of racism towards white and Hawaii. Yeah, I gotta say 681 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,760 I think according to that one Scott east Wood interview, I saw what Scott 682 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,719 Eastwood was talking about. It because he grew up in Hawaii. Oh and 683 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,440 he used to get bullied for being light. That's funny, not really funny, 684 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,679 but it's kind of funny. It's pretty funny. He's quey, bastard 685 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,000 child. No one believes he looks like he's clean, east with kid, 686 00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:24,480 even though he looks. His guys who like him, and they believe now, 687 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:29,360 but it's obviously his kid. Uh. The Creek Indians have their own 688 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,360 story, of course, about the giants that are called the Koloa. It's 689 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,960 it was a hairy man eating ogre from Creek mythology. Some recent Creek storytellers 690 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:46,360 have translated koloa to mean gorilla, which sounds interesting. Uh. The Wampa 691 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,400 Dog have their own giant lore. It's called uh mashup and it is a 692 00:49:52,480 --> 00:50:00,760 giant who is the cultural hero of the Mohegan and Wampaog tribes. He essentially, 693 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,079 he's strongly associated with whales. In most traditions, he would catch whales 694 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,920 and feed the people with them. In some stories, with his bare hands. 695 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Yeah, he would just go murder, wade into the sea and murder 696 00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,840 a whale with his bare hands, like the way, like you know, 697 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:23,679 a normal Indian would like spearfish us just a tree trunk and spears a whale. 698 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,559 Badass, that's pretty sick. I would pay money to see that. 699 00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,760 It's a good story. Yeah, it's a shame these these Native Americans killed 700 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:39,199 them all. And so maybe he's Japanese too big. It's whales well fair, 701 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:46,440 but I don't know if that's the case. Okay, Masha and his 702 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:53,239 children eventually transform into whales themselves leisurely. He also had a wife. But 703 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,880 mainly the thing here with me for that one is is that again it's just 704 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,400 a giant. Is a shape shifter allegedly they call them a shape shifter. 705 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,440 That's all, just that, just where the myth comes in. You gotta 706 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,760 think. You got to remember these stories are tens of thousands of years old. 707 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:15,079 So have we not even considered once aliens on one group said they returned 708 00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:20,760 to the heavens. Maybe they send them to heaven. It's sent to heaven. 709 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,920 The aliens just went to they just went back home, or that's they 710 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,159 murdered them, Yeah, send them back to God. Or maybe it was 711 00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:35,320 like a Red Bull promotion. Red Bull's been promoting a while. Just have 712 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,920 one of those jet packs. I think, Look, I am of the 713 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:46,719 opinion that eventually, let's do a spare bedroom reference here. Eventually some company 714 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,719 will use some incredible technology after it's not that big of a deal anymore to 715 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,920 do something horrible for a promotion. For example, rip Jimmy Stewart's ghost from 716 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:05,480 heaven, or open a rift in time, right and go back and and 717 00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:09,719 like become archaeological bone, like become the legend of myth for the Wampa dog 718 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,079 tribe. You know what I mean? Imagine this, right, sag. 719 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,400 The actors are all on strike, but Napoleon's coming out. They rip Napoleon 720 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,920 out of time. Yeah, to promote the movie, Yes, because Joaquin 721 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,639 Phoenix can't promote it, but Napoleon can. Mm hm. That'd be sick 722 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,920 endorsed by the actual Napoleon. Okay, sir, I know you don't understand 723 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,360 this technology, but we just recreated your life. How is it? Let 724 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,280 us know? Yeah? Why not? That would happen one hundred per Do 725 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,599 you guys know? Napoleon wasn't even really he was like an inch taller than 726 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:52,320 the average man. For that Dan is Anti that he was in France. 727 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,760 It was not that long ago. It's five six. They had shit fucking 728 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,159 nutrition. Back then, Georgia Washington was six No, he wasn't he was, 729 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,960 but there were outliers. It's fine. God, when did we just 730 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,280 get in this argument? Was it literally the last patron Probably I'm gonna die 731 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:15,159 onth he was five six seven, he was the eighteen owners. There's plenty 732 00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,000 people that were taller than five six. It was not average. Average people 733 00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:22,000 that are taller than the average male height now in the United States is five 734 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,280 nine. I don't believe that that is absolutely true. No, if you're 735 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:30,639 not six foot, you're not average. That's an that's just completely wrong. 736 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,719 I'm going by dating app standards. Five. Well, yeah, well everyone's 737 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,719 averages up on a dating app, because if you're five to nine and up, 738 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,360 you say you're six foot on a dating no woman's gonna date you if 739 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,239 you're under six foot. That's just fair. I mean, I've been dating 740 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,880 a woman for four years now and you think so yeah, and I'm married 741 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,480 and you're the only one here that's six foot and you're the only one who's 742 00:53:52,519 --> 00:54:00,440 single. Mm hmm, have options? Oh toche sure? And you're the 743 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,679 giant that we have to kill. You're like, you're like a fucking guy 744 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,920 who opens his fucking fridge and there's nothing in there. And you're like, 745 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:14,239 I can eat anything that happens on the daily basis. Yeah, I don't 746 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:19,320 have snacks because I don't like to, uh get high and feast. Go 747 00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,719 smart. Eliminate snacks from the helmet is the best diet tip. Yeah, 748 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:30,079 fuck it? Uh. So another the Cherokee have their own monster, this 749 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,840 one, their own giant, this one I I I like a lot because 750 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,039 it can only be killed by one thing. You want to take some masses 751 00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,599 and what can kill it? Sleep shots? What I said, love, 752 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:49,760 Uh, you're in the ballpark, fucking it. The uh you're getting closer, 753 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:57,199 warmer, kizzing on it, hugging it, adjacent, colder, not 754 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,079 hugging it. So just a little kiss colder. I'll just you said, 755 00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:07,800 jizzing on it was ballpark. So a hot load. Yeah. I don't 756 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,440 know how he could get closer than that without you know, it's inability to 757 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,840 produce a hot load. The only thing that could destroy this monster, which 758 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:25,119 was called stone clad. Stone clad was in some versions uh femaleism, you're 759 00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:31,760 really close. Uh. Stone clad is a man sized uh or human witch. 760 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:38,159 Uh turned itself into an invulnerable monster. Uh it's essentially a stone skinned 761 00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:45,000 giant that the tribes talked about, the Iroquois and the Cherokee. Ah. 762 00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:53,639 Essentially he could only be defeated by exposing him or exposing them to a chick 763 00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:59,039 on her period period. So essentially not I mean, just a full on 764 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,719 men's stating one just to like chuck menstruating women at the giant and she started 765 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,599 woman just stand near it and that makes it fall apart or I guess, 766 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,280 yeah, like a fucking faalanx of men's trading women. She's like, I'm 767 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,079 starting to cramp, and then the guy can't take time to go save our 768 00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:20,480 village from the monster. Pretty much? Yeah? Uh, and you know 769 00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:25,800 obviously the monster, you know, I assume in smaller tribes like this that 770 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,199 everyone's sinked, right, Yeah, so the monster's got three free weeks to 771 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:36,119 attack. Yeah, but then they have that one week, one glorious week 772 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,320 where no things, no stone clads are coming around, and it's like the 773 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,840 they just gather all the women on their period like it's the fucking death Star 774 00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:50,480 and they just shoot a period beam adam. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, 775 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,320 so gather up that blood and fucking make a water balloon and make a 776 00:56:54,360 --> 00:57:00,440 water balloon out of pig skin and fill it with fucking period blood and hit 777 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:06,639 at the muster. It's just like melt my melting. Uh. The Iroquois 778 00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:10,519 had a similar legend about a stone clad thing and like giant, and that's 779 00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:15,519 interesting to me. The Chippewa had a similar one as well. That's interesting 780 00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:21,840 to me that there's a specific sort of like rough different skin, because obviously 781 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,000 that other tribe had a sort of the scaly skin legend, So they're getting 782 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,760 some similarities here. When Lewis and Clark traveled through the newly purchased Louisiana purchase 783 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,079 to explore it with a girl with sackage away, they encountered the flathead Indians, 784 00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:42,079 most of whose folklore like. They hung out with them for a while 785 00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:45,760 and they shared their stories and stuff like that. With their heads actually flat 786 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,679 they were not. They were not. They weren't like a hammer head. 787 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,239 Were they called flatheads? I think it was. They were near like a 788 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,239 rock formation. Those Oh, it would be kind of funny if they were 789 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,760 deformed, right, Yeah, They just had like you could balance a cup 790 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,400 of water on that pin the plate head. These people will be our tables. 791 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,280 So the Flatheads shared like all their stories with them, and like a 792 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,679 bizarrely huge amount of their folklore dealt with giants called the uh. Oh, 793 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:19,679 Jesus Christ not till not least killikoten. They're giant fucking idiot. How do 794 00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:25,320 you not get that way? The flatheaded Indians said, the giants uh were 795 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,719 visible to human eye, like you could see them, which is a weird 796 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,679 detail to share, but they hated being seen. Uh. They gradually kind 797 00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:38,960 of decreased in number uh because there wasn't enough food for such big creatures, 798 00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:46,360 which is an interesting detail because that relates exactly to one of the main reasons 799 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:52,679 that the Quaternary megafauna extinction happened. Humans came in. They hunted the fuck 800 00:58:52,719 --> 00:59:00,679 out of these animals and hunted their food source. Yep, that dropped all 801 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,480 the way fucking down and didn't like to be seen. That's very bigfoot. 802 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,480 And by the way, we did the same thing with the Neanderthals. We 803 00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:12,679 kept pushing them out and taking their food and then they starved off or we 804 00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,239 had sex with some of them. Well, we were the slender Man. 805 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,280 We are the slender Man, as we establish. Yeah, and again that'd 806 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,719 be another funny thing like if you need to promote your slender Man movie, 807 00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:28,360 you'll open a rip in time and you go back and you just aren't haunting 808 00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:34,360 Native American tribes, the little squatty people. Yeah, you would say, 809 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,360 I was always taught the low man wins. I guess not. I mean 810 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,960 low man wins unless you're fighting the fucking mountain. Just cut down his legs. 811 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:52,320 Oburn tried that you're red and murdered, that you'll red, dude. 812 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,320 Just just get the job done then, and it this is what you get. 813 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,880 You don't spike the football on the fucking five. He DeShawn Jackson. 814 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:04,719 Bitch, for sure. It was bad. So the Corda, a land 815 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,599 people of northwest Idaho. Uh. They also have stories about how giants were 816 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:15,039 once common on their land. They say their giants faces were black and they 817 01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:20,800 were tall as the tps. Uh. The giants would often go after like 818 01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,920 people alone or steal fish from fish traps. But if you were together in 819 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,679 a group so that there were less there were a lot of giants where they 820 01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,159 were less giants and there were humans, and that that could just be like 821 01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:35,079 you know, like a like a fairy tale. They told the kids to 822 01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:40,760 make sure they didn't run off into the woods alone. Right, But giants 823 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:46,039 stealing women is actually a common uh story throughout all of these which again to 824 01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:52,119 me sounded like a little bit of propaganda, a little anti propaganda. But 825 01:00:52,280 --> 01:01:00,480 these giant legends have been pervasive. They are giants in particular, perbate evasive, 826 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:06,920 essentially across continents, across tribes that are in totally different environments, totally 827 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,800 different landscapes at totally different times. And to me, after reading all this 828 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:17,880 stuff, my two thoughts were grounds loss or and or erase of people you 829 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,159 wiped out, and you needed to slander them to justify wiping them out. 830 01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,079 Yeah, I also think you know, oh and three obviously they were talking 831 01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:31,679 about samoans. Those Peruvians were talking about samoans. Yeah, simoons or aliens 832 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,000 or Simoight. Well, what are your I'm at the end of my my 833 01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:38,000 case here, Boosh, I'll start with you. You're the guest. What 834 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:40,159 do you what do you? What did you learn from this? What did 835 01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:45,440 you take from this? I think some of them might have been ground sloths, 836 01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:51,159 some of them might have been just a regular group of people they killed 837 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:58,239 and you know, big game of telephone, other people heard that that this 838 01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:00,559 this giant legend, and they're like, oh, that's a a good story. 839 01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,519 Let's, you know, put our own spin on that. But ours 840 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:06,079 will have you know, fish scales or ours will be made of rocks, 841 01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:10,199 and it just becomes a story you pass on. Okay, now, Rob, 842 01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,960 I'm wanna throw out another possibility. We've talked about these people before. 843 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,920 Remember that group that came from the sea, that it's out of Egypt where 844 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,519 they had no idea where they came from. See peoples, to see peoples. 845 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,039 They probably were spread out right, like the oceans, the current, 846 01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:35,039 they're gonna take them different spots. So maybe the sea peoples were all over 847 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,159 the world. There were the Magellan of the show showed up and just reeked 848 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,639 fucking havoc. I'm gonna go with that because like roughly at the same time 849 01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:47,880 ish these Vikings. Maybe I don't think their vikings. I think vikings are 850 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,800 too late in the game for y vikings. But see people's would be bronze 851 01:02:52,840 --> 01:03:00,360 as that would be like similar Viking like people be like fifteen hundred see two 852 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,599 thousand BC's people were ancient Vikings essentially, not literally like they weren't Nordic, 853 01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:08,719 but they were and they kind of had origins or something what they didn't really 854 01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:12,880 know where they're from, but like maybe Crete maybe like yeah, Greece, 855 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,079 they weren't. They were from the Mediterraneans, that's right. Yeah, So 856 01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,320 I don't know. Maybe if they're like kind of spread out and just kind 857 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,000 of doing their thing, they run into North America and they settled suck around. 858 01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:27,800 Yeah. Yeah, there could have very well have been Europeans who went 859 01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:31,760 and were even thriving in North America like well before and to see people, 860 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,119 you know, did not document a goddamn thing. Yeah, well, we 861 01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:37,440 don't know who they are still, it could have been. It could have 862 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,559 been like, you know, just a merchant, you know, like there's 863 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,519 you know, there was everyone says Columbus was the first one to get there. 864 01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:45,760 Columbus was just the first one to get there and make it back, 865 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,480 right. There could have been other shipwrecks that went all the way over to 866 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,400 North America without realizing it, and you know that they bumped into Native Americans 867 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,400 and then Native Americans called them giants. A lot of possibilities. I think 868 01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:05,519 it's an anti mystery race of people properly with a sprinkling of sloth and definitely 869 01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:13,599 in Peru, Polynesians like twenty the Rocks showed up. They were just fucking 870 01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,199 rowing their boats, did fucked up shit or maybe just kiss each other. 871 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,199 I don't know. I don't know what these people's mores were. I don't 872 01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:26,880 know what their taboos were. M but that's all I got for today. 873 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,840 Uh, it was like a rip in time. We've talked about this in 874 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,960 the episode. That's my favorite theory. It's marketing. It's gorilla marketing for 875 01:04:35,719 --> 01:04:39,400 something we don't know about yet because it's like three hundred years in the future. 876 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,719 There were just a bunch of extras that were supposed to be on Game 877 01:04:43,719 --> 01:04:46,760 of Thrones as Wildlins, and they got lost the time or I mean like 878 01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:49,480 no, no, it's like a project, like three hundred years in the 879 01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:54,159 future and like at a specific time, maybe when we're in our sixties, 880 01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,360 you know, they discover the bones and then you get like two hundred years 881 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,239 of like that lore and then they're like you've heard the story, you've heard 882 01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:05,599 the myths, now learn the fact. But it's all really just they ripped 883 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:10,000 open time. They we don't realize they have that time to help technology it's 884 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,599 like that Simpsons episode where they placed the angel skeleton. Yeah, yeah, 885 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,719 it's exactly that. Okay, the Simpsons predicted it. They're so good, 886 01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:23,679 they might have predicted that. That might have been one of the most pressing 887 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,760 episodes, to be quite honest, if I had to guess, that might. 888 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,039 I mean, there's nothing better in the first ten seasons of The Simpsons. 889 01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:32,679 Yeah, I really went downhill after those first ten they lost their main 890 01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:36,480 writers and they just decided to make Homer an idiot and like he was always 891 01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:40,000 kind of stupid, but he used to have like heart and like he used 892 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,079 to be like a good father horrific now yeah, and they just made him 893 01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,840 just like mentally challenged and mean, I told I know exactly worked at a 894 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,320 nuclear power plant. He was doing pretty well. Yeah, you know exactly. 895 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,519 That's the whole joke. Is that like it? Because the show came 896 01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:58,760 out around the time that the nine Mile Island, Yeah, three Mile Island. 897 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,880 Yeah, you know, I mean it went downhill, you know exactly 898 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,960 when it went out hill season Conan left, When Conan left season five, 899 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,480 when Futurama started, they put their attention on that. In that basket, 900 01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:15,320 dude, they revived Futurama for the third time on Hulu just recently. I 901 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,199 don't like Futurama. I'll say it. I like Futurama. I haven't seen 902 01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:25,920 the new stuff that's good for today. I mean Futurama walked so Rick and 903 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,119 Morty could fly. I don't watch that either, jeez. I like, 904 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,719 you don't like Riga Morty, the Rick and Morty. It's like it's I 905 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,440 like the first two seasons of Rick and Morty. The new seasons aren't as 906 01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,280 aren't as good. It's always it's like too many jokes, too fast. 907 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,920 It's like I'm trying to wrap my head around what's happening. It's just, 908 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,199 you know, they stick that. It's that thing where it's like they got 909 01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:47,559 to up the insanity every season. So now insane, South Park Archer, 910 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:54,280 those are all good ones, man, That's all I got. Guys done. 911 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,519 Who's in the game? Not these motherfuckers, Well, no they are. 912 01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:00,280 They are in the game. The giants are the giants aren't the game. 913 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,280 These guys are in the game big time. So who's Hitler? Is 914 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,280 that what we were so for Patreon, we do who's in the game and 915 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,440 what you learn? We really talked about what you learned. So who's in 916 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,960 the game is like, who's you know, the great game playing the great 917 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,760 game? Which is for power, for being on top? Who played the 918 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,159 great game? All these tribes they added some clout, you know what. 919 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,639 Not us because we haven't used this to our advantage before, like oh, 920 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,960 I'm sorry, we killed the natives because they were savages. Other did the 921 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,840 same thing to a group of people before this. It's almost like human beings 922 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:42,119 operate in some pattern, weird pattern we just do as if we're all the 923 01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:45,480 same. It's weird no matter how different we are. Deep down, we're 924 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:49,719 just all there's a lot of commonalities, the same assholes. We're all dicks. 925 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:56,719 Yeah for amen, Alex Bashemi and Dan ri Chester. I'm Ron Fox. 926 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,920 You discuss all served