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What's going on? Clippers fans?
I think I started that one. What

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is going on? What is going
on? Welcome to season two, episode

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sixty two of Clips and Dip.
I am Chuck Mockler, joined by Will

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Updike. Adam Austin's going to join
at some point. He's working Love Radio

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right now, dealing with the upset
callers. We want to thank everyone who's

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Will's drinking wine as the Clippers lose
to the seventy six Ers one twenty

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one seven. We're gonna talk about
that. We're gonna talk about the Pacers

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game at some point. I did
have an Updike fun check on the schedule,

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which Will doesn't seem excited about,
but we might have to do.

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I mean, look, man,
this team has just become I guess what

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I mean. This team has now
told us who they are for several weeks.

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Like the amount of five hundred ball
and head scratching losses is as long

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as the stretch of dominant play.
So I guess my fun check is I'm

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excited for May. I can make
travel plans because the oh I do not

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have to worry about Clippers basketball.
So here's the AK, here's the VAK,

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here's the VK. So for the
if you're in the chat right now,

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I'm assuming you know what happened.
The Clippers lost to the seventy six

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ers. They went down big and
then battled back and then crumbled late.

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We saw some The Clippers beat the
Blazers twice, which was expected. The

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second game, Yeah, good stuff
against a really tough roster. I think

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a lot of people were waiting to
see what happened today to really see if

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they were building off that good process, and they have not. No,

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I didn't fact just to check this, but on the broadcast they were saying,

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this is the first time this the
Joel and beadless sixers have had a

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twenty point lead on a team.
So I get it. I mean,

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like and and and maybe they can
still hold out hope that they can turn

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it around. The official Clippers guys
can hear me. So I got a

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new theory. The Clippers aren't just
trying to overcome bad habits from this season.

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We're talking about bad habits from the
entire two to three era. That's

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what they're facing. That's why it's
so difficult right now. That's why they

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can't have any consistency, because they're
a team that has been consistently inconsistent the

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entire time with Kawhi and Paul George, sometimes for reasons like not having guys

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available, not having one or both
of them, and not building up enough

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chemistry out there. Sometimes because for
whatever reason, they play like a team

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that looks like they have I don't
know, some type of championship entitlement where

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they think they can flip a switch. It is extremely disappointing. Today's loss

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was really disheartening, coming off what
happened in Portland. It erases any goodwill

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they may have built up in those
two victories against the Trailblazers. You can't

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lose to this Philly team without Joe
el Embiid. It just cannot happen.

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But I think expecting a team to
having to have to overcome themselves in all

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the bad habits they built up for
years, it's just it looks impossible right

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now. Maybe they will, Maybe
the playoffs start, they're given one hundred

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percent effort for forty eight minutes.
But I think all of Clipper Nation right

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now saying I'll believe it when I
see it because it's been too much of

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this for too long, and I
don't care about matinee starts. Guys,

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think of this logic, make it
make sense. The Clippers have so many

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matinee starts, it sucks. They
have more than every other team. The

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Clippers also are inconsistent and can't get
up for those matinee stars because nobody else

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has them, and it throws them
off their rhythm. Here's what the math

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doesn't line up. If you have
so many of these matinee starts, wouldn't

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you figure it out by now?
Wouldn't you have wouldn't you be able to

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get up for them because you're used
to having so many matinee starts. I

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don't get it. I gotta go. I love you, Adam, thank

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you, Good luck with the callers. It is Will. You've talked about

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this team had the you had the
Shakespearean diagnosis that there was maybe something rotten

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to the core of this team.
Uh, And I think that we're seeing

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that just play out again. Right, Like as Adam said, it's more

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of the same. It's consistently inconsistent. It's the quasi comeback. It's you

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know, it's just and then like
the literal like the laxadaisical uncare of how

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they treated that fourth quarter, a
twenty to four run with more turnovers double

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more than double the amount of turnovers
as field goal as made field goals like

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is insane. Yeah, and it's
that's the like this team who is When

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are they going to try hard for
the whole time when it's not a team

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like the Bulls? When are they
going to remember what it felt like to

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win night in a row. No, I'm not saying they're gonna win that

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said this team for as long they've
been in this team for as long as

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they were that team. So where
are they? I guess it's somewhere in

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the middle of these the two teams. They're the five hundred team right now,

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they're the team where hey maybe ooh, but also maybe it'll be at

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the very bottom. Maybe it'll just
be complete dog shit. Uh bukadein Bar,

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I apologize if I pronounced that wrong, said I don't trust this team

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to hold Leeds or going runs when
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They completely everyone. It felt like
all the lug nuts were loosen when

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Kawhi was off the floor. Today, the Publy turnover, I think someone

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talked about, like, yeah,
Jerry Wore were saying, the plubly pass

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hilarious way to spell plubly peel uml
y to a mire coffee that wasn't even

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looking just turn into a turnover was
so frustrating. That's the microcosm of this

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Clippers team. Not blaming Amir and
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the other guys, but the other
guys are doing the same kind of thing

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absolutely, yeah, which is just
like there's no cohesion. I don't know,

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I don't know what else to say, to be honest with you,

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it's like the exact same points that
we've been talking about for I mean,

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since the All Star break in years. Yeah, I mean true, yeah,

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it is. It does seem to
roll over essentially every single year when

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the team goes through these stretches.
And again, I mean like this again,

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this reaction, our reaction right now, I suppose, on the bright

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side, is like one insane Kawhi
Leonard playoffs from looking like we were way

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off base about this team. Yeah, but from what we've seen as a

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cohesive unit, the some of the
parts are just like they're not all working

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together, right, We're not getting
it all at the same time we did

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for a little bit. Alan Ning
asking can we find players for half assing?

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No, but on co on coach
Chuck's team, you're getting fined for

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half passing. You got a run. Do we even want to get into

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Like, I don't even know if
we want to get into the stats of

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this game because it was first of
all campaign had a season high. Because

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things like that happened to the Clippers
for Shislbdizl asking why did Tye even put

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Plumbly out there? I believe Tys
took some kind of knock or something,

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and I think that he was limited
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Fair question, completely fair question,
because Plumbly has been so bad.

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Yeah, he went from a perfectly
acceptable backup to so bad. Yeah.

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Well, I put this on Twitter. He wants to be Tony Roten,

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he wants to be a tiny guard
so bad. We might get into some

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front office stuff later. I don't
right now. I'm like the stats are

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shitty, right, like the most
important stats. If you look at this,

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what was the fast break point seventeen
to eleven, But that's skewed because

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the first half, I think it
was thirteen to one or something like that.

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The Clippers had to battle back down
seventeen. Like we've just seen this

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game so many times. I saw
a tweet from Lot Murray that said,

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last Sunday, Clippers couldn't score on
the defenseless Hawks. This Sunday Clippers couldn't

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stop a seventy six Ers team dead
last and effective field goal percentage since Embad's

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been out. Yeah, this team
has been playing Portland out an MVP guy

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and like and just have been poor
and the Clippers found a way to be

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worse. Like it's like, remember
and I the healthy Clippers team found a

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way to be worse. And I
know we're kind of going stream of conscious

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this night. Right now. I'm
very excited to listen to this tomorrow if

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I didn't listen to it. But
not to sound like a dickhead, but

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like, I don't want to see
goofy things in game when we're beating up

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on bad teams, when you're not
able to bring any energy consistently against good

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teams. I'm usually not that kind
of guy. I'm usually gonna, let's

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have fun kind of guy. But
like this was that. I wasn't even

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surprised at this happened today. That's
what makes me so mad. Oh yeah,

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totally, that was not even I
was just like, well, yeah,

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like three minutes into the fourth quarter, it's like okay, yeah,

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well seeing this one know how this
is? Yeah? Great? Like was

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the was the fake closeout? Fun? Now? Like this team is unseerious?

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Yeah, I know, I sound
like such a state, Like it

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feels like they're apathetic, Like there's
just a complete apathy towards like any sort

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of consistent competitive play. Eric Yes, Eric P says, to be fair,

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the seventy six is were shooting the
lights out. They were, But

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there's that is fair. There wasn't
They did shoot a team campaign out of

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season. Hiats, that's part of
shooting that well. I'm not saying the

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whole thing. Part of shooting that
well is feeling good enough to know that

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you can shoot that well against this
team. Yeah, I think you let

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teams you I mean, yeah,
you let teams in early. When you

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give up forty in a quarter the
first quarter. Yeah, I mean I'm

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saying, Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. You're literally setting you're literally allowing

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them to get into rhythm, and
you're setting the tone for what this is

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going to be offensively, which is
they're going to get what they want,

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so hope that we outscore them.
I don't know, Like, I don't

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know what the rational I don't know
what the rationale is. I mean,

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on paper, yes, this team
should with minimal defense be able to outscore

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the seventy six ers given where they
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not that's not really how it works, right, you're not playing the record,

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you're not just you're not just laying
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you look at the bench scoring,
and we're gonna get to this thing by

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muchdide again, you look at the
bench scoring in this one, dude,

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the bench Norm has twenty Norm offsets
all. I'm sorry, Norm is so

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good, but like I'm worried about
the bench, like it terms like I'm

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like, I don't that I don't
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We've known the bench stinks. Outside
of Norm. It's fine, it

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is what it is. There's no
acquisitions to be made. There's no playoff

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eligible players. If we would have
signed Jones today, things would be a

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lot different. Tell you now,
that's a competitor. Mukdid says, I

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hate to be a pessimist, but
since PG requested more odd ball reps,

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the team hasn't been as cohesive.
I agree, I agree, I agree.

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I went on AM five seventy after
this happened with Adam during the the

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double dip, but I said,
I don't I will see how this goes

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because Paul George with the ball his
hands is not very goods, his turnovers

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not very good. Like not to
be a dickhead, but it's like it

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isn't as cohesive. There's a reason
that the team was playing as well as

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it was because James Harden was running
the show at that point and like one

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assist of five turnovers, starman Hove
asking how is it the bench. We're

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not blaming the bench. We went
more as a whole. We're not blaming

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the bench. It's not the bench. This bench stinks. They're gonna stink

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like it's just it's it's everybody else. It's Paul George having one assist of

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five turnovers. That's fucking insane.
That's crazy. How can you be that

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bad? That's comically bad. More
turnovers than assists. Yeah, Boe Tilds

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out of the rotation. As we
all know. Hey, b West,

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this is a dedicated listener right here. If you're listening, it's important to

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me. It's Will's literally Will's favorite
staff. Yeah. I don't know,

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man, I don't know. They
play tomorrow too, which is what sucks.

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Uh, they're gonna get We're gonna
talk about tomorrow in a second,

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don't. I'm not. I don't
think we're fully done talking about this game

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yet. But it's just like,
I don't know, man, Karens looked

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good early, two quick threes,
took the threes quickly, which was great.

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Lack of effort on defensive rots killed. Yes, it's the same gotta

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beat the same thing, And that's
why this gets so horrid. That's why

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it just gets so hard to like
unpacked or dissect. It's like, how

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many like watch another episode where the
same thing happened. We'll say, the

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exact same thing, the same It's
the same every single time, just rinse

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and repeat, man, which is
why it's so frustrating. We've all everyone

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in this organization since the start of
two one three has been a big pillar

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of it. Has been to this
movie so many times. Yeah, so

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many times. They're movie passing the
worst movie. That's all they're doing.

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Gotti. It's when movie passed.
You could like they're going if he gets

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tickets to Gotti or whatever for that
in the move that ended up killing movie

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pass. Yeah, they're going to
see Gotti and they're just expecting it to

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be good or different. Uh.
Mario Norid says, does he Paul George

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wants to be ray Aller or does
he want Russell Hard to take pressure off

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of him. That's been an issue
too. When the team looked their best,

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Paul George was a was an overpaid
outside shooter. He was, but

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he's very good. He was good
at defense when they look their best too.

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Yes, he was playing good defense
too. Yeah, and I feel

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like that role could be remedied with
just him having a little bit more off

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ball movement, you know what I
mean. Which, Yeah, some of

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I don't even think is on ties
play design. I think it's on Paul

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George. But it's all frustrating.
We've seen it looks like with Paul George

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handling the ball. It can be
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inconsistent. Yes, yeah, it
got He's got a loose handle, what

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he's like, he's a high in
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He's good. But that's very good
to be a point guard, you know

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what I mean? Right, it's
not Lebron. It's not Lebron handling or

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something like that. Right, Speaking
of point guards, James Harden he had

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fourteen assists today, but he missed
every single three he took. That I'm

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less, Like, I can't be
mad at that. I could be mad

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at six from three. That's a
lot of threes, what I mean,

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But what do you like? What
do you make of that? You're pissed,

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We're pissed. I'm pissed. That
sucks to go over. What do

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you do with that? Shoot better
next time? James? Yes, you

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can't contract all you can control the
shots that you take. Like, sure,

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all right, I'm not that and
I'm saying they were bad shots.

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Most of them were pretty good shots. Yeah, I uh, this doesn't

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feel This doesn't feel elite. These
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when the team was on a ninety
of wind streak that I bought into again

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again, though, I feel like
this is the takeaway is this team has

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looked as much like this team for
as long as they did the other team

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that the team that went six and
one on the Grammy road trip and had

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a nine game win streak. This
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what this team actually is I guess
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equates to what like a slightly above
five hundream like right' I don't really know.

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Do we have anything else to say
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I guess, yeah, I don't
even it's so frustrating we have guys.

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to that, I could be talked
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was it's rough, it's true and
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with that and that can be different
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different in the playoffs, but you're
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never having home court at any point
during during the during the playoffs, Ingrim's

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still out for two weeks, which, yeah, they're up. They're up

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a half game on the Pels and
they're not getting that back if they go

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back because the Pels have the time
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they're behind. Yeah, it's double
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this loss to the seventy six ers. Not a whole lot of positive takeaways

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from that one. But let's look
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in what seems like a really difficult
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wise, Charles, what are you
looking forward to in this game tomorrow evening

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versus the Pacers? Before we get
into that very quickly, x bogo project,

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where do you live that you're watching
games at three am? Or where

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are you? Just let us know? So this is gonna be what address?

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Pin, give us your address?
Oh? The game about the podcast?

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That makes sense? Philippines? Okay, that also been Philippines. Okay,

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yeah, great, Yeah you don't. Well, I'm sorry that you

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woke up at three am to watch
this game. That's that's even more insulting.

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That's shitty for Yeah, they should
pay you something for that. Why

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does Paul George not think about the
international fans? You don't think about a

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lot of things. So I put
a thing in here that this is the

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best active roster the Clippers will have
played since losing to the Pels on the

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fild teen, which I think is
fair to say. Right, it's it's

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the best active roster since the Clippers
the Clippers have played Pals. Yeah,

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which doesn't bode well, given what
we've seen the Clippers do recently. That's

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one thing too, about like the
flip the switch idea, right like,

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switch is broke. You just haven't
beat that. You haven't like It's not

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like you've been cleaning up on teams
over five hundred or something, you know,

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right, Like the record is bad, right I Yeah, Russ is

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coming back in this one, yep, which we need. We need someone

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to grab some boards, We need
someone to run back in defense. People

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are not doing that, so that's
gonna be good. We have the best

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inconsistent players of league. Thank you, Jose Goo bed uh so. So

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I was looking over some very quick
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got? Hit me with it?
I don't like how we match up to

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this team. Yeah, go on. The Pacers are first in points per

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game and second in offensive rating very
good, Yeah, third in field goal

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Have they tasted that Clippers defense yet? I feel like they might be a

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historic offense against this current Clippers defense. Their third in field goal attempts per

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game, first and field goal percentage, first and two point attempts per game

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and first and two point percentage first
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What are they ranking three, Where
do they ranking threes? Threes? They're

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just okay, so they could they
could have a great game against the Clippers.

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Well they're top ten, so they're
they're tenth and three point percentage at

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thirty seven percent. They take they
take the league average. Yeah, they

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take the league average right at fourteen. Here's where I think we have some

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headway if the team decides and chooses
to play hard, which feels sadly,

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I don't like talking points like that
where it's like if the team wants it

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more the win. Usually I don't
like those takes. With this, I

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agree, we have to deal with
that. I agree with you, and

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it sounds it sounds like an you
know, like an oversimplification or or something

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that's really easy and it is to
be honest with you like this. This

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isn't a groundbreaking point. We're not
We're not saying anything that we think is

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particularly deep analysis here. It's just
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this team, a team that's willing
to play more physically, play with a

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little bit more. What's the word
I'm looking for, Like like there's something

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on the line, like play with
you know, not posers. Yeah,

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exactly, Posers. I feel like
that's the type of team that's gonna get

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a win over this Clippers team.
Yeah. So here's where the Clippers,

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if they choose to be good,
I think could make some headway. Pacers

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are not a good rebounding team.
Twenty seventh is great rebound also not very

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good. Pacers are twenty seventh and
defensive rebounds per game and twenty sixth the

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defensive rebound percentage, their twenty first
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percentage, and their defense is the
twenty fifth rank one hundred and eighteen defensive

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rating. So if all the stars
aligned literally and figuratively, the Clippers can

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very much win this game. Will
it? Will that happen? We truly

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have no idea what this team will
do on a nightly basis, right I

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don't like Halliburton and Siakam seemed terrifying
right now? Yeah, for this team?

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How are you feeling about ty lud? We get a great question from

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Jimmy g I can't believe Jimmy Garoppolo
watches this podcast, But how do you

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feel about the rotations? I feel
like Kawhi should start the four? How

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are you feeling right now about Tylu
the tactician, because I, through this

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slump, have kind of given ty
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because what I'm seeing is not Look, there are some head scratching rotations,

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which I think is fair and we
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But a lot of what I'm seeing
on court has nothing to do with

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the plays that are being drawn up
necessarily, it's how things are being executed

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on the floor, which I think
has been really really poor. That being

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said, I like this question from
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though Tyleru we think of him as
being someone who's like really willing to change

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things up, the Kawhi shifts have
been very stagnant. I feel like in

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that he plays the full first,
he comes in at about the midway well

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not the midway park a little bit
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and then starts the third And I
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that, except with the exception of
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maybe be a little bit shorter so
he can come in, we can start

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the fourth on an actual note.
And I think it's I think it's valuable

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to consider that he is, you
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closing lineup, but maybe make that
third maybe you make that which he will

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be. I mean, how could
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floor. I think that it is
valuable to think about that third quarter shift,

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even though you want to set the
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should be fundamentally different than the first
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like that would be it should be
a shorter shift, and then that fourth

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quarter should kind of be a bookend
for Kawhi right wherein he comes in or

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to start the fourth because you either
need to secure to secure a leader,

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get back into striking distance. He
comes out, and then he plans on

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booke ending you know, the end
to that quarter, which I think is

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a weird balance to try to toe
the line of. But it with how

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essential you know, we just talked
about like how essential obviously Kui is to

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this team, best player, no
question, Yeah, but just how different

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this team looks without him even on
the floor. This is a team that

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we talked about all the time not
really having an identity, not really having

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a leader, and then you go
through stretches where your best player and not

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a vocal leader, but certainly a
tone setter is not on the floor,

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and I think you get games like
you got today. That fourth was ridiculous,

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and I believe, I mean Tyler, did Kawhi end up even like,

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what were his minutes even in that
fourth quarter? I'm gonna have to

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bring up the quarter by quarter stats
right now, but it was too late,

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you know. Yeah, I like
the idea of him coming in he

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played five minutes? Oh sorry,
uh, Kawhi played, He did not,

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and he did not not end up
checking back in in the fourth quarter

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because that lead got too large,
right, which I was gonna say,

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he either played very little or not
at all, Right, I think he.

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I mean, if this team is
going to be this, this shouldn't

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have to happen because a lot of
these rotations are dictated by what Kawhi wants

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to, which makes sense because he
has his system and his way of feeling

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gain you know what I mean,
and stuff like that. So I'm upset

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that we have to ask this because
the other guys can't find their ass with

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two hands when Kawhi is off the
court. Yeah, that's mostly like,

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You're right, The original question is
about how much we're kind of thinking about

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Tyleu and this whole thing, and
his hands are kind of tied. Right.

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The roster is what it is.
We don't have PJ. Tucker is

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hurt, so like we couldn't use
his size, which we like have to

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use that with that, that's how
would that have helped this game? But

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you know what I'm saying, Like
that's the roster that ty has to work

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with, right, Like that's the
alternative. Yeah, I mean that's the

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thing I have been giving him benefit
of the doubt is because a lot of

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what I'm seeing on the floor is
a lack of execution. It's a lack

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of adhering to a game plan.
It's a lack of intensity. And no,

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to me, no roster like,
no rotation change, no like no

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time early time out to give a
motivational speech is really going to change that.

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I believe that it could maybe for
some teams or in some circumstances,

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but like, this is such a
pervasive issue. I don't really know how

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much of this you could pin on
ty Lou to be. Just to be

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perfectly honest, like he's not on
the floor, he is not suited up,

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like he has little to do other
than calling out plays and coverages like

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they're ultimately responsible for the execu and
that's what I'm not seeing is the execution.

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And he's been candid about it.
In post games, Tyler has been

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very candid about the issues the Clippers
have if you're the lowman, be the

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low man, get back and transition
defense, Like it's things where he's like,

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like, I have to imagine some
of these film sessions are timing,

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like see like just you see how
you're not back, You see how you

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didn't run back at all, or
anything like that, like xby and go

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project asking why can't we defend no, Like there's very little effort and very

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little communication. So I think that
that is a huge thing in defensively,

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there's just an apathy towards that end
of the floor where I just don't really

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understand. Because when his team has
looked at its best, that's been one

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of the sort of things that that
helps them get into their offense. It

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helps them get into rhythm, and
when they were mounting a comeback in this

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one, that's what we saw right. More stout defense and leading into easier

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buckets for them. Easy shots have
certainly been an issue and why I believe

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this offense has stalled out from what
we saw during the Golden Era that now

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feels like forever ago, Like that
was that a different season I can't even

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remember. But like, not getting
those opportunities and not capitalizing on things on

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the defensive end is making everything more
difficult. And I think that that has

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been sort of the overarching storyline of
two on three, right, is they

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make a lot of things a lot
more difficult on themselves than they need to

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be. Yeah, and just because
you have skilled players, just because you

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have guys who can step up in
those situations or in the biggest moments,

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doesn't mean that you consistently need to
make things as hard on yourself as possible.

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a lot of burnout from this team.

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I think that's why you know injuries
have tended to mount at really inopportune

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00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:14,279
times late in the season, is
because they've put such a burden on themselves

405
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,880
by you know, not communicating,
not finding ways to get easy buckets,

406
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,279
not you know, like eating teams
you should be away easier competition, and

407
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,720
just waiting to turn on the switch
until you're you know, your twenty plus

408
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:32,039
points behind. I mean that that
that's really hard, that's really hard and

409
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,359
unsustainable, and yet they continue to
do it, Like I just don't,

410
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:42,319
you know, I don't know what
to say. What were we talking about

411
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,480
the Pacers? I'm sorry, we're
gonna a good man. That's how this

412
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,119
team us that we're gonna lose that
game. That way of saying, I

413
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,559
think we lose to the Pacers,
I'm sorry. So we were talking about

414
00:32:53,559 --> 00:33:04,279
defense originally from the the Philippines.
I hope is enjoying some loopia right now,

415
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:09,079
because loopia is delicious, uh Halle
and Siakam. The Pacers are top

416
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:14,240
ten and pick and roll frequency,
So we're gonna see a lot of opportunities

417
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,799
for the Clippers to be able to
communicate tomorrow on the defensive end because we're

418
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:22,000
gonna see a bunch of pick and
roll against a really, really good team

419
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:29,359
in terms of the pick and roll, and they have Miles Turner. Yes,

420
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,359
Richard Haycock. PG should just look
to score. It's fine, just

421
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240
score a bunch and defend. Well, that's what PG can do. You

422
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,960
don't have to handle the ball.
Norm Powell came into this season talking about

423
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,440
wanting to be an All Star and
has now shifted it to say, yeah,

424
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640
I want to be six Man of
the Year. Paul George should shift

425
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,319
from I want the ball in my
hands too. I'm just gonna score and

426
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,400
play Grady fense. Not that that's
easy. I don't mean to say it

427
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,440
like that, but we don't have
Yeah, the PG being the ball handler

428
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,960
is so annoying. Doesn't he not
have fun? If you return the ball

429
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,880
over a bunch, wouldn't you not
have fun? Well, I mean he's

430
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:14,599
just on somebody else, I guess
right. Oh no, we're getting some

431
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:22,480
news from Jimmy Williams Adam turning into
Bill O'Reilly on Clipperstock right now. We

432
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,400
don't have radio going on in the
background, so I don't I don't know

433
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,760
what I don't simultaneously on here and
what's going on with Adam. But thank

434
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,320
you, thanks for keeping us in
the loop. Yeah, I appreciate that.

435
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,480
I hope the callers are chill.
All right. He was his audio

436
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,320
was clipping when he was on here
earlier, so I'm sure he's in a

437
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:49,440
in a great mood. Okay,
we're gonna take one more quick break and

438
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,119
then we're gonna talk about what it's
gonna take to move the up Dyke Fun

439
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:59,440
Meter because there's not a lot of
basketball for the regular season. Uh so

440
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,119
that is kind up. If you're
listening to us on audio, thank you

441
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,800
so much. If you're in the
chat, thank y'all so much for hanging

442
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,800
out. You guys always make these
horrible losses a lot easier to deal with.

443
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Yelling into the void. We're yelling
at y'all, so we appreciate that.

444
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:19,679
Very insightful stuff. Everybody who listens
this show so smart, so smart,

445
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,840
it's crazy. We hope Adam's doing
okay on the radio. Um,

446
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:29,320
we're gonna talk the fun meter after
some ads in three two one, All

447
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:36,960
right, right, you take Uh
we're doing the Updyke fun check, which

448
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:44,000
is a classic bit from the old
Lockdown Clippers podcast where it's just Will Updyke

449
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,639
checking in out how much fun we're
all having. We know that we're not

450
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,960
having fun. I think is that
a good baseline for this edition of the

451
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:58,880
up Fund app very apt? Yes? Sometimes sometimes I'm thinking, so what

452
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,679
Will and opening this up to the
chat as well, let us know your

453
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:07,239
your fun level. Pull up the
schedule for me real quick. I gotta

454
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,360
pull up this great quote. Did
this actually happen new Paul George quote,

455
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,679
we just kind of lock it in
focus. I don't think our focus has

456
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,679
been where it needs to be.
Doesn't he say that all the time?

457
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:28,760
Great? Oh, this team?
All right? What are we looking up?

458
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,039
So what's it going to take to
move the Updike fun meter? Wins?

459
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,920
Some wins? Now, bring up
the schedule? Bring up you're like,

460
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:52,719
I've literally losing the schedule. It's
just a lunatic. What always takes

461
00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:02,480
to the basketba? All right?
Well, Ine sec So we got the

462
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:08,599
schedule? Is about let lea share
my screen fund meter when the Clippers don't

463
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:14,800
play. It's not how fund meter
works, dog, It's not how it

464
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:22,880
works at all. All Right?
We have pacers at Philly, at Orlando,

465
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:30,719
at the Hornets, at the Kings, Nuggets, Jazz Calves, Phoenix,

466
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Phoenix, Utah, Uh Rockets damn
not ideal? Uh sure? Now?

467
00:37:54,119 --> 00:38:07,400
Twelve twelve twelve games? Ups?
Look? Man, Outside of outside

468
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,480
of decisive wins against the Kings and
Nuggets and shutting out the Suns in the

469
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:20,559
mini series, I don't know what
more joy or fun I'm really gonna be

470
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,039
able to find in this regular season. No again, and I did talk

471
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:27,920
about this. I did talk about
this in the last segment. Great process

472
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,599
isn't happening. I'm giving up on
that, burying it. This team apparently

473
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:38,920
does not care about the good habits
or process. Yeah, as far as

474
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:45,719
the regular season is concerned, decisive
wins over the King's Nuggets and going undefeated

475
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:53,280
against the Suns in the mini series
to close out, Yeah, is about

476
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,079
what it would take for me to
appreciate having fun in the regular season.

477
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,440
Could things turn around in the playoffs? Look man? Like I said with

478
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:08,840
Kawhi Leonard healthy, shit can turn
pretty quickly. Stuff could look more fun

479
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,880
and a little bit different. But
yeah, as far as the regular season,

480
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:21,639
the fun is very low and without
wins, there's no way to really

481
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:27,280
get it any higher. And wins
decisive wins against good teams. Because it's

482
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,360
not like I was overjoyed or thought
that this team had turned a quarter with

483
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,639
two wins over the Blazers, you
know what I mean? Yeah, I

484
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,519
felt bad because I didn't feel bad. Starman Hope, thank you for this

485
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:42,719
comment. It's very funny. Have
they considered playing better? Have they thought

486
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:51,880
about it? The doy uh the
Portland thing was so annoying to me.

487
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:57,880
I felt like a curmudgeon watching both
of those games. Yeah, I don't.

488
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,960
And this is no disrespect to the
Blazers. They're going through a nightmare

489
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:07,679
right now, right, it was
it's just fake. It was just like,

490
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,679
Yeah, my thing, like my
thing with the My thing with the

491
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,800
Blazers was it's sort of a damned
if you do, damned if you don't

492
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,960
scenario. If you lose, I
mean that's absolute worst case scenario. If

493
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,639
you win, it's just kind of
expected. So the best thing you could

494
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:30,039
do is try to build good foundational
habits right against a lesser team. Those

495
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,519
two games plus this Sixers game is
kind of what I was calling a t

496
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,119
ball portion of the schedule, some
easier games to build up good habits and

497
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,840
play like a team that's ready to
compete for a championship. And that is

498
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,239
just not what we saw. Yeah, the Clippers, uh, we could

499
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:55,679
eat our seven and six in March, so they have they really got to

500
00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:01,320
play well for them to get to
my ten and seven desire with good process,

501
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,119
because I unfortunately think you might be
process thing. So they'd have to

502
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,639
feel four and one for the rest
of March. Yeah, I'm not seeing

503
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:16,679
that right now. I am not
seeing it right now. Crazy, it's

504
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:24,719
it's Pacers seventy six ers magic.
Yeah, I don't know. They have

505
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,960
to go three and one. Excuse
me, Yeah, I don't know.

506
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,400
I don't know. I think for
me, the fund meter has is gonna

507
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,920
move if they go undefeated, then
I'll think, Hey, the regular season

508
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,440
is fun. They went twelve in
a row or to end the season.

509
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Great, not happening, not gonna
happen. So I'm not optimistic about the

510
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:55,880
fund meter, I guess. But
bars hate that. But it's true,

511
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,000
very tru. Yeah, I don't
know. Do we have anything positive to

512
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:07,880
kind of close this out on.
I feel listless, if that makes sense.

513
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:13,719
That's the way the Clippers look,
so that makes that makes a lot

514
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:21,320
of sense. Positives I have tomorrow
off, which is a positive. Shout

515
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,840
out, Caesar Man, that's great
for you. I'm going to rewatch this

516
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,280
game. Yeah, that's what you
should do that. I'm watch this game

517
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:42,800
and take a nail and pound it
into my forehead. Positives are they've got

518
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,519
to know how bad they are right
now, right hey, I would think.

519
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Apparently Harden left the locker room before
Ty even went out to speak to

520
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,679
the media. Yeah, that makes
sense. I would too. Oh,

521
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,480
Tyler said, they understand what the
fun they're supposed to be doing, do

522
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:25,360
they? Yeah? I like,
I don't know, man, I don't

523
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,159
know. We're just getting the same
quotes. Oh yeah, Alan being asking,

524
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,920
are you guys broke yet with that
give no quarter rule? We're about

525
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,400
to be We're about to We're this
might be the last episode, Alan,

526
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:44,000
Oh last time you see us in
homes for sure? Yeah, we'll I'll

527
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:51,840
be potting out the out the chicken
wire. Someone asked the uh Russ coming

528
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,880
back is a positive? Yes,
that is fair. Russ coming back is

529
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,840
a positive? Y. I mean
they have needed energy that could help they

530
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:05,480
eat the energy. Jeremy mooreman asking
is there a mathematical possibility we can fall

531
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:12,239
into the play? I don't think
so, there absolutely is. We're two

532
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,679
and a half games up on the
Suns. Fuck no, yeah, we're

533
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:21,039
two and a half games up on
the Suns who are in the play in

534
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:25,239
correct, Yes, so yeah if
they lose twelve remaining games, yeah,

535
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,360
with two of them against the Suns. So yeah, Jereby, thanks for

536
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,280
bringing this up, dude, there's
a very real I don't know if that

537
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,639
will happen though, Right, that's
a positive. I don't think that that

538
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,920
will happen. If they go five
hundred, which is how they've been playing

539
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:49,320
five hundred, they will they will
stay out of the plan. Let's fucking

540
00:44:49,400 --> 00:45:00,400
go, right, isn't that what
we all wanted? Some bones is stunk,

541
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,199
and I just we just can't even
get into it right now because that's

542
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,840
not the issue that this Clippers team
has. It sucks, there's not much

543
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,119
death. It sucks for bones,
it sucks for depth, it sucks for

544
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,960
a lot of things. But that's
not that's not the marquee issue with this

545
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:23,119
Clippers team right now. All right, well, hey, this is the

546
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:29,320
positive. We have to we have
to heart. I think it's maybe we

547
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,079
have to have heart, but we
have to heart, which is yes,

548
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,760
all right, we're gonna head out
of here. One of us is gonna

549
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,360
do the radio. If you want
to listen to a five s, well,

550
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,760
that can be your me. I
can do it. I don't know

551
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,239
whoever do you want to yell about
them? Whoever Adam calls is who will

552
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:52,199
answer the call. We're gonna be
back with a double dip after tomorrow's game

553
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:59,760
against the Pacers. Yeah, which
will be interesting. We might be at

554
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,039
that game. Maybe I'll flip my
bike and dot my two front teeth out.

555
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,840
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556
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563
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565
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566
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567
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569
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