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And I want one. You're putting. I got a string going on here.

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Something Just give my dog. Something
killed your dog? My dog?

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We're flying through the or over the
tree. I don't know how it did

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it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw is my

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dog coming over the fence and he
was dead. And once he hit the

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ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence. What are you
putting? We got someone or something crawling

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around out here? Did you see
what it was? It was? It

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was staying enough. I'm out here
looking through the window now and I don't

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see anything. I don't want to
go outside. Jesus Christ, you're better.

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Hello, get the buddy out here. What's going on out there?

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Let's got off a bit of about
second nine. I don't know easy am

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out there? Yeah, I'm right, oh. Readings from Alaska's Fred Roll,

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career and tribal council member from Dillingham, Alaska. I was talking to

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a relative of mine last night on
the phone. We're talking about the harry

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Man. Because I've been reaching out
to as many people as I can just

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to get the personations perspective on their
experiences because, like I said, what

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I dealt with over my lifetime is
not unique. It really isn't. And

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I'm sure for a lot of people
they're just like, gosh, this guy.

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There's a whole lot going on.
The reality of it is, I

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have no need to embellish or make
up anything. This stuff is going on,

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especially up on the New yea Kuk
River. Just talking to nikolay unbetounced

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to me I brought up to harry
Man Tom. I've known him since we

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were knee high I'm forty six,
since we were little kids. And on

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top of that, he's a real
So when he called to tell me he

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was coming into town and wanted to
meet up for lunch or whatever, just

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out of the blue, I was
like, hey, you got any good

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Harryman stories? And the first two
he had to share was on the New

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Year cook and they weren't good shots
fired type thing. The whole thing I'm

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getting at is a lot of us
First Nation. We're deep in the woods.

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We're hunter gatherers, we're out berry
picking, we're out subsistence hunting,

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we're out trapping, we're out doing
all sorts of things. Always in remote

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alasket. That's where we live.
We live remote. It's not like we're

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sasquatch whisperers or anything like that.
It's they are there. It's not like

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we have to seek them out.
Going to film this documentary is going to

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be different for me because we typically
don't. We don't seek him out.

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It was never even a thought until
just recent history, past couple of years,

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been thinking about getting out and doing
that. What I wanted to share

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today was a couple different examples of
how things transpire usually, and it happens

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like that. You're just out doing
something. We don't leave the house every

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time we leave. We're not worried
about the Harryman. It's just one of

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those things. We don't worry about
bear or moose or anything. But you

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always stay prepared one way or another. But it's not, oh gosh,

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we can't go very picking because of
a harry Man. We find out when

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we get there. If it doesn't
want us to ruin, then guess what

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you just skid at all wants to
start shaking a tree or screaming. Area

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where this happened, it wasn't up
on the New York cook It was just

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a random thing. There was a
hunter, a guide, I was a

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backup gunner for him, and I
won't name him, but we flew down

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the non of Varchik, which is
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it's between Cape Constantine and Togya.
We could see around islands just off the

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coast where all the walrus are.
So I'm a backup gunner for this bear

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hunt. Right, we're going out
in the super cubs. I want the

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first trip with the pilot guns,
a bunch of gear. The hunter was

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coming on the next flight, and
then the guide that I'm working for would

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come on the last flight with some
more provisions, and we're going to be

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there for seven days give or take. Our Nunavarctic Beach it's desolate, it's

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wind swept and all that, but
this valley cuts back and it hooks back

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off to the right and you can't
see the whole valley from where you're sitting

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on the beach and where we're at
in Nunavartic Beach, it's a half moon

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cove. You got pinnacle Rock out
on your right and always have sea lions

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out there. The first morning I
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lion grunts that I thought were the
fricking bear right outside our camp, so

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very wild, pristine area. It
was a spring hunt, so everything was

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brown, everything was still dead,
not then grown up through yet. So

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it's basically about this time of year. It was the end of April.

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I know that I forget when the
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spring hunt. So anyway, getting
them fresh out of the den before they

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have whoever's been hunting, they know
what I'm talking about. So we get

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all our logistics done. Everyone's there, me, the guide and the hunter,

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and I'm a backup gunner and I, you know, keep camp gone,

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whatever, cook whatever. It was
lucrative, so I didn't mind cooking,

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not don't let pride getting away money. So we're sitting there and we're

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discussing the hype back because we're talking, gosh, a good five six miles,

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which isn't bad, but it's up
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these draws and then back up the
mountain a little ways and back down these

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draws. It is brutal. So
that six miles straight stretch as the crow

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flies, turns into a dozen when
you got all the back at force right

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first day, it was like our
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was just rainy and windy. The
morning we woke up after the day we

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got there, I was woken up
to the sea lion grunts and all that

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stuff. So I went down to
the beach initially, and we're socked in

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with the weather, so I knew
it wasn't going to be a good hiking

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day. So we sat around camp
and we were discussing the game plan.

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Basically, yeah, we'll go up
this draw, we'll check here, and

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the guide had spots on dens and
stuff like that. So I'm just playing

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the background. The hunter. He
was from Colorado, and this guy just

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out of the blue. I'm just
sitting there talking. The guy was actually

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a white guy, but he lived
locally in the Bristol Bay area. The

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guy asked him, he goes,
hey, your native, aren't you.

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Yeah. The guy was like,
no, I'm married to a Native woman.

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What's this about. He goes,
I've been wanting to talk to a

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Native person about Bigfoot. So that
spucked my attention. I was like,

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what do you got. You show
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of thing. Tell me what you're
working with. He comvinces, tell me

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a story about the last time he
went on a bear hunt in Alaska four

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years prior, and this guy he
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He was inland grizzly. He had
drawn a tag or something like that.

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When I asked this guy, hey, like, seriously, I take it

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serious because I've dealt with this kind
of stuff in the past. What makes

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you think it was a Harryman?
He said, it flipped his tin with

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him in it, and when he
scrambled out, he saw it, grabbed

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the other tent in the group and
was going to fling it when he yelled

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and it half flung it, waking
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He had some previous experience with the
Harryman, but this was up in

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the Brooks Range, which was drastically
different terrain than where we were at the

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time. At the time, we're
a coastal down by Togiak. He tells

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me about it, and I give
him a few examples of what we dealt

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with in the area, buried Patt, screaming, just basic stuff. It's

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not our cultures share everything. At
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He started talking about the last time
he had come to that area where

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we were taking him eight years prior
something like that. He said he was

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screamed at back in one of those
draws where we were getting ready to go

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the next day. So we're like, hey, we'll be ready for it.

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We're not going to not hunt for
a potential Maybe there might be a

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hairryman beer. He convinceists telling me
that if he sees one, he wants

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to shoot it. He wants to
bag it and bring it in, and

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I laughed. I was like,
yeah, okay, if that's what you

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want to do, we'll pop it
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it out of here without the Feds
taking it. That's what you want to

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do. He thought about it for
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it attacks us? I said,
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But we're here to hunt bear.
You know, let's not worried, because

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if we're worried about the hairy man, we're not going to be looking for

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bears down task because at that time, I had never been attacked by one

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of these things. They've just screamed, shook the trees, throw rocks,

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this type of stuff. They screamed
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where I felt life threatened. It
was shocking, but shocked to the system,

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but I didn't feel like my life
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happening. We get a game plan. The guy tells us we're not going

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to go across the right side of
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towards the left side of the valley
where we got across a bunch of marsh,

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to get over to the opposite side
of the valley and then start petting

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up, because his game plan was
to spot across the valley from the left

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hand side of it and check all
the draws as we go, because on

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the right hand side there was a
bunch of draws that cut up and from

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experience, we knew that the bears
usually would work those draws for any carrying

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any dead mountain sheep that may have
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which is a good game plan.
Now, when I say it sucked ass

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to hike back there, it sucked
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we were sinking into marsh and the
muskeg. It wasn't very well thought out,

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but we made it across. We
found a path a game trail,

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ended up losing a guide stick it. It pushed through and I tripped forward

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and it went through the tun anyway. So we get across and we're hiking

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around and we get up on this
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we're glassing and I noticed out of
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in the distance, something moving fast
and it just hit the valley floor,

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coming off of a little bit of
a hill, and it's moving from our

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left and it's just a black dot. We don't have spot and scopeside or

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none of that shit at the time, and so I pointed out, hey,

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there's something look over there running and
they're looking just immediately down. I

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said, no, over there.
I got them to train a site on

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where I was pointing, and there's
just a black dot right it, and

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that's all we could make out.
They were scrambling to get the spots.

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Keep an eye on it. We're
going to get sco bellt we'll see what

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kind of bid looks like a black
bear. Because it was a black dot

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at this point, this thing is
just scurry gone. It hit the alder

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brush and all that kind of stuff
and just disappeared. We knew the general

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area was at We're up on the
knoll looking down into a valley, so

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we had the high ground. We
got a good line of sight on the

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whole area because where we finally made
it to we saw where it rounded around

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to the right and where it tapered
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side of the valley, and it's
a great spot for spotting whatever. Right,

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So they're getting up spotting stropes and
they're asking what clump of brush,

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what alders and what those was it
in? And so I pointed it out.

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It was over there, and they're
scoping. I noticed a black dot

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almost straight out in front of us, same black dot. I was like,

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oh, there it is. Now
grat you, this is a valley.

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This thing went within two minutes and
these guys are scrambling and get spot

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scoped out. I mean they were
moving. This thing had gone from one

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side all the way to the other
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miles or roughly give or take three
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it was going was back towards where
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I pointed out, hey, it's
moving fast, and they're spotting on and

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they're like, that's not a bear. And the guy from Colorado starts hitting

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me hey, and I was like, hey, but can hit me dude?

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You know he's packing. He's like, that's a harry man, that's

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area. That's a hairy man you're
talking about. I said, are you

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sure it's not a bear? Because
sometimes a younger bear will get star from

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a big board, the boar chases
it off and it'll run for miles just

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to get the hell away from the
big bear. I didn't have a spotting

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scope. I was just using my
naked eye and it's basically a black dot

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morbid. So it really didn't mean
nothing to me. I assumed him as

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a bear. This guy, he
gets a little butt hurt that I'm not

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just jumping right in on the hairy
mat. Not that I didn't believe him,

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it's just, you know, we're
there for bear. My mind wasn't

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on it like that. So he
sits there and he starts telling me we

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need to leave, we need to
leave, and we're like, dude,

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this guy paid a lot of money
to be there, and now he's talking

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about we gotta leave. And I
asked what do you mean leave? He

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goes. I was like, get
back to camp, dude, you realize

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how much work we did just to
get here. And he got upset.

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He was like, I can't be
here. I can't be here. I'm

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not going to have my tent flipped. I'm not going to have my tent

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flip. We're like, dude,
no one's flipping your tent. It's a

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black dot. Calm down, We're
okay, we're safe. We all three

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had a very high power rifle.
I had a three thirty eight, The

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Guide had a forty five seventy bush
gun, and the hunter had some outrageous

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I think it was a three hundred
ultramag. Firepower was at plenty. I

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wasn't worried about whatever it may have
been. This guy was adamant. He

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would not drop it. He stopped
being quiet. He was almost dancing around

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like he had already put his spot
and scope away, cand all this stuff

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packed back up, and he was
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can't be here. I'm not going
to be flipped. So what had happened

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to him four years before in the
Brooks Range? It traumatized this guy.

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He wanted no parts of even a
potential running with the Harryman. It got

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to a certain point where the guide
was like, hey man, I'm not

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going to lose money because you're scared
of something that hasn't happened. The guy

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said, f the money, I
need to go. Let's get back to

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can't use the radio, get me
out of here. You guys can stay

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all you want. I gotta go, and the guy just like, we'll

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have to put that in writing.
I'm not gonna get sued because you chose

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to get scared and leave, and
then I have to be out all this

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money for logistics and all that,
which I understood. So as we're making

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our way back to camp, they
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to find out, the guy when
he got the scope near on it and

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saw a black movie, he just
kind of messed him up. The guide

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wanted to get back to camp because
it was I'm telling you, it was

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a brutal swamp. Everything is mushy, you're falling through it. It was

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this horrible We get back to camp
and I'm talking to the guy down at

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the beach. We're down there smoking
a cigarette because the guy was like,

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can you smoke away from me,
I'm a nile smoker. Hey, it's

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your money. So we're down on
the beach talking and we're not making fun

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of the guy. Okay, don't
misunderstand me. We're trying to understand why

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is he so freaked out because we
lost sight of the black dot. We

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don't know where it went. Our
camp was a two by two constructed with

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clear visc queen over it, so
we could see if bears come around,

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there's basically just a little dry in
the little platform. It may even still

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be sitting there on Univarctic Beach,
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the bluff. We're there and we
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sixty degrees around us the visc queen. We could even see Pinnacle Rock,

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and not in great detail, but
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we smoke our cigares, we discussed. He was like, I'm gonna get

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on the radio and see about getting
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by time we got back to camp, it wasn't no, I'm going

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to fucking fly in from Dillingham at
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no, no, tomorrow morning whatever. So he got it arranged.

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He was off on the radio and
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I'm right, hey, bro,
there's a lot of money to just

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kick aside. Nothing's happened. We
saw a black dout running. I understand

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your concerns. I'm not trying to
take away from that, but why not

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give it a few days. Let's
wait till something actually happens. And so

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he was like, yeah, I
understand what you're saying, but you weren't

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flipped in a tent. I was
like, okay, fair enough, it

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goes. Do you not believe me? I said no, I do believe

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you one hundred percent. Dude.
You're lucky you got off like that.

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You're lucky that wasn't just a sack
watch you didn't throw over his shoulder and

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take off with you. I'm not
mocking yet. I believe you. I'm

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just trying to get you to calm
down and not throw away just a lot

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of money. Just look it up
on the internet guided brown Bearry Hunt.

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He's calmed down a little bit,
and I'm trying to reason with the guy,

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even though he was so adamant that
I was getting scared. I was

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like Jesus at this point, it
was all shake a tree one here,

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maybe there was one back behind you
at the same time type stuff. There

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was never that close contact that kind
of what ended up happening in oh six.

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But after talking to him a little
bit, he calmed down, and

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when the guy came back in and
said, hey, we'll have a flight

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here. I have a small window
in the morning to cancel this flight because

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if I don't, I don't castle
the flight by eleven am. He's going

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to be here by two o'clock and
no refunds. And the guy looked at

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him. He goes, why ain't
he here tonight? He was a guy

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where he's not going to fly out
this time of night because that's IFR And

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he's a VFI pilot instrument versus visual, just a difference in bush pilots.

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Whatever they're rating. The guy accepts
it and he goes, who's taking first

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watch? I laughed. I was
like, we all have guns, we're

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all on watch. We got a
clear vis queen tail here. We can't

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see perfectly, but we could see
movement. If something's moving around us,

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we'll be all right. We're in
the middle of a plot of grass that

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goes one hundred yards every direction except
in front of us, where it's the

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beachline, where we have a small
little drop, it's probably about a four

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foot drop where the grass hangs over
where it's eroded along the beach, and

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then you got the gravel and the
sand and all that it wraps around.

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And of course freaking loud seed Linn
is out in the water. So I

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reassure him, hey, I'll take
first watch. You know, I'll step

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up as long as I can.
Then I'll wake you up directly so you

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can have your own eyes on stuff. And I promise you I will watch

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out. I'll even go and start
a bonfire and keep it going as best

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I can with the limited wood we
had. I scored and found some good

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driftwood about a quarter mile down the
beach. So I get this good bonfire

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going and the guy starts drinking whiskey. I didn't know he had already started

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drinking whiskey when we first got back
to camp. At first, I was

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like, why didn't you share?
But anyway, unbeknounce me. He's getting

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liquored up in the tent while I'm
doing all this bonfire shit. The guide

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comes out and he goes, hey, Fred kmere and then I go over

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and he goes, dude, do
you got any marijuana? And I was

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like no. You know, he
goes the guy wants some pot. He's

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still freaking out, and I was
like, I don't know what to tell

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you. It doesn't grow here.
And so he goes, okay, yeah,

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I just thought I would ask her. I was like okay. So

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he goes back, and I'm getting
this going. And the fire ring that

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I made was just up from the
bluff blocked by this little bit of a

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burn, like four foot little bank
or whatever, to where it doesn't just

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blow embers back into the dry grass
kind of thing. It was a little

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bit of a depression where I got
it going. And so I'm basically sitting

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on a log with my back towards
the tent and looking out at Nunavarcic Bay,

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just admiring the natural beauty. And
he got off the sheer clips going

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up the side. Then you got
pinnacle Rock, and then you got round

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island almost straight out from you,
where you can hear the wall wrists making

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their bellows in the distance. It's
just a beautiful scene. And I'm just

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sitting there admiring there. Way back
in the valley. I hear this long,

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droning moan type scream that ends in
a very high are kind of pitch,

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and I was like, shit,
I know exactly what that was.

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Before I could even tand up from
that log, the Hunter was down on

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the beach ran past me as I'm
standing up to turn. He's already leaping

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off the onto the beach on the
open. He's got a gun. He's

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freaking out. I'm like, dude, stay tuned for more sasquatch out to

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see. We'll be right back after
these messages. Put the gun down,

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put the gun down, Calm down, and we'll all take points and we'll

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make sure we're okay. Nothing came
in on us. It was just that

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scream and the black dot. That's
all that happened on this treadon. But

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this guy, and I get it. I'm not mocking the guy. If

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you happen to see this dude,
his name was Craig. Hey man,

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I'm not mocking you. I feel
you. But you were out there in

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that moment. He was hot muzzling
me and the hunter and shit. Plus

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he had been drinking. Never some
people when they get to a certain level

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of drinking you can't reason with them. This guy fortunately wasn't at that point,

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so I was able to talk him
just calm down, and I started

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bullshitting him. I was like,
hey, Mary, I've shot these things

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in the eye before and they dropped
dead. We're good, We'll be okay.

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I was blown, smoke up his
ass. He calms down and I

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said, what we'll do is we'll
keep our backs to the beach. I'm

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move this log to this side of
the fire, and we'll keep an eye

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out. So what I mean by
that is we kept the fire quasi beside

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us because you wanted to keep your
night vision. So he agrees and we

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sit down han his log. Now, I had him take the round out

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of the chamber. I showed him, Hey, you've been drinking. I

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haven't. I have around in the
chamber. I'll have time to fire and

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you can chamber around and back me
up if something happens. Right, Yeah,

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that's a good idea. And it's
getting to this point of drunk like,

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hey, I'm not going to be
thrown I'm not going to be thrown

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in the tent again. And the
guide has had it like, is you

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know what, man, we understand
you're freaked out. Darrow, you're leaving

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tomorrow, he goes. Even if
you get up in the morning and you

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change your mind, dude, you're
leaving tomorrow, You're gone. No refunds.

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We were here to do this and
this is unacceptable, and rightfully the

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guy is messing with his money,
even though I think he gave him a

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half partial return or something, just
because he's a good guy. But he

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was pissed in the Mongler. I
literally sat there, not for everyone once

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in to morrow listening to this guy. It wouldn't even share his whiskey.

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Asshole. He's sitting there and he's
not drowning in sorrows, but he's self

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medicating, is what this guy is
doing. So what had happened to him

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four years prior up in the Brooks
Range really affected him hard, like really

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hard. So things like that happen
to people, and a lot of them

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don't share it because at the time
I glad to kill them a little bit

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myself, even though I've seen them. I know they're out there looking back

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on that. I feel bad because
me doing that and the hunter doing that,

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may it cause him to never share
that open lee and get it off

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his chest because obviously he was traumatized
enough four years later to start hitting the

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bottle really hard just at the thought
of it. Just something to think about.

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There's people that have these things happen, and in certain areas, I

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know, places down lower forty eight. Buddy Scott sent me some photos and

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then they appeared to be pretty thick
down there too. Thankfully, they're not

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aggressive like up here. Something that
I wanted to say as well is these

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things are not unique to me.
So if you hear these experiences in these

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encounters, be like, man,
there's no way wait till you hear others.

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I got other people that are going
to be sharing their experiences, and

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it's eye opening. We have so
many encounters of First Nations that we don't

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share. We just don't. Every
once in a while you hear a couple

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of people from Alaska and other channels, but as a majority, you don't

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hear it on enough of a basis. And that's another reason for this channel

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is to get my fellow Alaskans or
First Nations to share. You don't have

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to leave your name or any of
that crap. You can remain anonymous.

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It's not a big deal. Just
share the experience. And where it happened,

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and the nature of the experience aggressive, curious, just saw it in

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the distance running by. Whatever it
may be, it doesn't matter. It

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doesn't have to be an experienced where
it's a holy shit moment. Just seeing

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one of these things is a holy
shit moment. That's enough, you know

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what I mean? Because even though
when I was little and I knew I

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seen them at a distance, but
until they started throwing rocks at the boat

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in nineteen eighty three, they weren't
real. They were real, but there

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was no context to it, so
to speak. And I just want to

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encourage those who have had any experiences. I got a backlog of people that

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have shared. I'm trying to work
some of that into the documentary because some

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of a good portion of them are
First Nations and so I want the documentary

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I'm doing is the first part of
it are going to be strictly First Nations

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from Alaska perspective, and then it's
going to expand from there. And it's

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nothing against anyone else, it's just
there's a huge lack of through and through

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First Nations type documentary on the Hairy
mat. It's a large unspoken part of

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our culture. You can have an
encounter with your cousin when you get back

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to the village. Just guess what
you ain't talking about it. Look at

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those guys in Klaganick. It happens
all the time. They don't talk about

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it. New Studio hawk happens all
the time. They don't talk about it.

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They get back and it's daily life. It's daily life, and it's

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accepted. There's no guessing. Last
time I was in Klaganick, an elder

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told me to pick up a gun. You need to be armed, you

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know. Anyway. Some of these
things may seem out landish. It may

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seem geez, what's going on with
this guy? Gosh, is he making

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something up enough? I don't have
to doesn't matter of facts. Some of

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the stuff I don't even share because
it sounds so crazy. I just don't

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want to be the mouthpiece for everyone. I want them to speak for themselves.

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Anyone seeking these things, careful what
you wish for. I know of

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three places that I could probably go
right now if I had the resources to

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get there, and within forty eight
hours, some scary, hairy shit's gonna

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have And I say that with confidence
because of the times I've been there and

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hearing from others that have been there. Same shit, same shit. Right

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after dark. They come in,
they circle, they sniff, they try

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to break in. Okay, let
me give you an example. Newyacok River

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on the New Yorkuk River, when
it branches off from the New Shigak River,

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they have salmon counting towers. And
at one of these towers is where

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I had my experience in six but
we were up by New Yakuk Falls.

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The first salmon counting tower that's on
the New Year Cuck is like a bunk

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house. Do It's much bigger than
the one we were at. There's a

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shed there, an actual shed where
they would keep generators, so are light

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our equipment for the counting tower.
That type of shit, right, that

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particular one people use quite often because
it's just not even a quarter mile up

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to the New Yorkuk up where it
branches from the Newsigak and that's just south

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of Harris Creek on Theiak. This
group of guys, I know them all

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very well, grew up with.
This happened three years ago. Okay.

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They were up at that particular Saturn
counting tower and when they got there the

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bunk house, someone was already camped
out in it. A group of moose

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hunters trophy moose up there, and
that's typically as far as most hunters go

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up to niw Yakuk. I don't
know of any at least locals, and

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I don't even know of any outfits
that take people up there. I know

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now there's a new Yakuk River fishing
line, but that's like flying shit.

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Anyways, they get up there and
they can't sleep in the main bunk area

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because it's full five six people or
whatever. And there was three of them,

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four of them in their party.
So this little shock that they went

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and sat in. It had a
three hinge door and it wasn't chintzy,

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but it was basically strong enough for
snowload and that was about it. And

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so as they're in there, they
were just starting to doze off. But

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they kept their firearms because they saw
a lot of bear sign when they got

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there, right, so they had
their firearms near them, loaded safeties on,

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of course, because they're not ignorant
guys. Halfway through the night,

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they get woken up from the guys
in the bomb that where they couldn't stay

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right, so they get woken up. The guys are like Hey, we're

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heading out. We're not efing staying
in this damn place. Screw this place.

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They didn't. They're just okay.
And when they woke them up,

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they had already packed all their shit
out of that little bunk house and got

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it in their skiff and they drifted
away. It was still dark out.

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These guys, they they got out
of there, they're like, hey,

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listen, I sleep in the damn
shed. There's bunks in there. Let's

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go. As they were gathering up, they're packs and their guns and stuff

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to go into the main little counting
tower, the counting tower shack or whatever.

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The second skiff that was part of
that group was just get ready to

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leave, and one of the guys
said, make sure you lock that door.

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And that's all they said, and
they drip away their spotlighting. They're

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looking for rocks and stuff. Because
the new he cuts the Shell river,

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you got another channel. They move
all their stuff middle all of the night

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over into the other bunk They light
a lantern in the back bunking area,

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which is roughly twice the size of
the one I was in. And so

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they're all on these bumps. Now
there's a door that separates the bunk part

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from the kitchen living area just on
adjacent to it. It's all attached,

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but there's an inner doorway and outer
door. They didn't lock it right.

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So they're sitting there and the door
to the bunk area where they're at is

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just slight red yar just slightly.
As they're sitting there talking the lanterns in

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the back of the rope, their
shadows are cast towards this doorway, right,

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but they're talking. There's there's two
on the bunk across from one guy

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and this guy that this particular happened
to all of them. I'll get to

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it. So there's one guy in
the lower bunk and two on the other

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one, and it was just three
of them. I apologize if I said

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for it, but no, there
was just three of them. And the

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guy on the top bunk on the
opposite side kept hearing something. He goes,

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did you lock that door? It
sounded like someone stepped in. He

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was like, for what, Bears
can't open doors. They weren't thinking about

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the Harryman. This time goes on. They're discussing because now they're wide awake.

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They had bized off a little bit
and were woken up to the guys

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leaving right, they hear the outside
door. Someone was messing with the door,

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and every wonder if they forgot something. The guy on the lower box

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grabs splash light, swings open the
door, turns on the light. Because

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there was no white out in the
area between the bunk area and the outside

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door, it was dark, so
he beams a light and the door's wide

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open. He walks over and he
shuts it. He didn't lock it,

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he just shut it. What wasn't
going to fiddle with it, wasn't really

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worried about it. Just didn't want
the door banging right, So he shuts

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it. It, walks back in
and sits down. And as soon as

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he sits down and he kind of
claws, he shuts the door and leaves

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a little bit of a gap so
he can see out where his position is

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on the bunk. That outside door
opens again, and they hear three steps.

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Now it's it's like a good fifteen
foot distance between that outer door and

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that inner door to the bunk area, and this thing took three steps.

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This harry Man pushes the door open, has his hand on top of the

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door and leans in and leans his
head up because the threshold of the door

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was behind his neck at this point, and it looks at all of the

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looks down at the guy on the
lower buck, and then looks at the

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one on the bigger bunk and smiles
at it dude on the upper bunk.

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But they were all in shock.
But he had to president enough to grab

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the rifle and click the safety.
And when he clicked the safety, this

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thing disappeared very quickly. But as
it was going out the door, it

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tried to grab the guy that was
on the lower bunk that had just shut

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that outside door, grabbed a hold
of his jacket and tore part of his

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goose down jacket off of him,
and he pushed the door to keep himself

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in the room as this thing ripped
the jacket off of them, and they

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heard it run out. Those types
of things happened on the New Yekuk River.

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It is a no joke place.
I'm not just saying that facetiously.

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I'm not just trying to oh,
I know this spot. No, that's

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a spot where they will come to
you if you're in one of those counting

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tower shacks. It's just a matter
of turning before one or more is there.

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That's just a fact. Logistically,
getting there is a serious bitch,

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though, because if way up river
flying is expensive, floatplanes can't land in

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that particular part because it's too shallow. So it's happening far more regularly than

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people realize because no one talks about
it. They say, you don't gotta

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go home, but you can't stay. No, I don't want to be

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we're all out it chid this job
that chid everything right back. Joy for

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me, the joy, stay right
away, sidings side still stay, says

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side stay, State still sus inst
stay place and PSI statis and ensis used pssst

