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Hudson River Radio dot com. This
is Travis Walton and you are listening to

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UFO Headquarters UFO Headquarters and welcome the
UFO Headquarters on Hudson River Radio. We

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are coming to you from an undisclosed
location in the Hudson Valley region of New

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York State. I am Michael Warden
and giggling in the background is linda' Zemverman

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at me here, laughing at my
You always get me. Yes, Yeah,

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I try. I just wing them, you know, the talent.

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Well, how are you tonight?
I'm good. I'm excited because we're going

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across the pond for today's show,
which is it's going to be interesting,

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definitely some interesting cases. I know
that you're going to start off though.

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It's really interesting information and news and
updates about what you've been doing. Yes,

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on this side of the pond.
Just got back a couple of weeks

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ago from the Big mouf On Symposium
in Cincinnati, and they really did a

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great job. I mean, kudos
to Moufon. There was I think about

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five hundred people there and it was
actually at the North North Kentucky Convention Center

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in Covington, and everybody was staying
in the Marriot and you go through one

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of those little sky walks to the
convention center, so you didn't have to

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go out in the one hundred and
eleven heat index, which was nice.

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But some great people. I got
the pleasure of meeting the National Director of

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Brazil, Chiago Chichetti. I hope
I'm pronouncing that correctly. Great guy.

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In fact, I just did his
show last night. I think we need

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to have him on a lot of
cool things going on in Brazil. Eric

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Tessier Tessier, I hope I got
that correct. He's now the new Canadian

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director of moof on. Great,
great guy, excellent stories. And of

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course you know our very own state
director, Christoperno was their best state director

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ever. So it was it was
good to see. Definitely a shout out

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to our good friend Chris. Yes, so it was good to see.

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So it was just great. And
you know, then the other five hundred

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people who had great stories, and
one of them just blew me away.

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So I want to start with that. This really cool older gentleman Ray who

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only lived a few miles away he
in Kentucky, told me about a case

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from nineteen ninety nine. Now he
had never reported this He's like, well,

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who am I going to tell?
He had he talked about it amongst

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the people it happened to, but
I was basically the first one. He

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was reporting to me. Well,
you're interested? What are you kidding me?

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So we're going back to nineteen ninety
nine Beatyville, Kentucky. He's having

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a family reunion. One hundred and
nineteen people. That's just like a typical

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lunch for the wardens, right,
I mean, that's it. Oh,

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that's yeah, that's lunch. That's
not typical day of the week for most

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people. That most families, that's
a that's a lot. So you know,

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they're all in this big field and
just having a good time, and

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at six pm people everybody starts looking
up and his wife says to him,

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is that what I think it is? And so he looks up and he's

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like, yep, that is that
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It was a disc at least the
size of an aircraft carrier, but rather

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than being horizontal like we're used to
the descriptions, it was on its side,

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like if you were holding a shield. And I thought, wow,

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that's that's on. People have glimpsed
to that, but this was a very

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prolonged sighting, and I said,
you know, I've just never heard of

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such a prolonged sighting of a disc, you know, on its side like

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that. But we'll get to that
store that away. That's kind of come

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back shortly. So they're looking at
this for five minutes, ten minutes,

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fifteen, it's just it's just hanging
there. So he's cousin who was kind

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of the official photo taker for the
reunion with his thirty five millimeter cameras,

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and maybe we should pause while the
younger people look up thirty five millimeter cameras

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and a film and one hour photo
developing and things like that. They're thinking,

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now, are you sure this wasn't
eighteen film? So is cousin sitting

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on the back of a pickup truck
with all his cameras around him, and

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Ray goes and sits next to him
and says, why don't you take a

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picture of it, and like terrified, the cousin quickly replies, my cameras

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won't take a picture of that,
and he's just freaked out. And Ray

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suddenly feels this fear and he's like, oh, oh yeah, you're right,

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your cameras won't take a picture of
that, which makes no freaking sense.

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It's you know, now he can't
understand why did he even say that?

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But I know we've mentioned other cases, and I could do a whole

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show on people who want to take
a picture and something in their head tells

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them, no, no, it's
too dangerous to take a picture. You

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can't do that. They're like messing
with you. So here's two grown men

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freaking out. We can't possibly take
a picture of that. So he was,

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he said, he was the most
excitable of everybody, like what is

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this? What should we do?
And everybody else is kind of looking at

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it. Okay, that's cool,
like way to mellow. This was Kentucky.

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We have to you know, Brian
known for its whiskey there in Kentucky,

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isn't and it's delicious. Okay,
so maybe that has something. We

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have to include that as the possible
subduing force. But I think it kind

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of went beyond that. Thirty solid
minutes, this craft hung there and then

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it's six Just at six thirty,
boom, it was gone, And he

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said, everybody went back to what
they were doing like nothing had happened.

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Nobody was talking about it. However, come that Christmas, they're all getting

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together, and he said, suddenly
it was all everyone was talking about.

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And every time they've gotten together for
the last twenty four years, that's all

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everybody talks about. But at the
time, it was like, Okay,

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it's a massive craft, the size
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It's just it doesn't make sense by
normal standards. People's reaction to it.

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And even now he's like, well, why bother reporting it? So

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you know, I said, well, you're reporting it to me, which

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is great, I said, but
Kentucky moofon ought to know about it.

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Anybody who's researching Kentucky or disc shaped
craft on their side, or mass sightings

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or nineteen you know, summer of
nineteen ninety nine. It's important. So

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if you're out there and you have
a story and you think nobody's going to

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be interested in it, there are
there are geeky people like me, you

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will be very interested in it.
So that and that just blew me away,

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that that story and just can I
run with something real quick? Please

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make you make an excellent point there, because how many people don't report things

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so individually. It's a single encounter. Yeah, it could be very transformative

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to the person having the encounter.
But it's a single encounter which may mean

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little on the you know, until
the big pictures look at when you have

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twenty thirty forty over a given period
of time, like the Hudson value wave.

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So you know, yeah, you
may think it was an isolated incident

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maybe to you, but unless you
report it, that's not We can't figure

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out where the trends are. You
can't find those patterns. So it's very

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important. Even if you think it's
insignificant, you know, it may be

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an important piece of information to a
researcher out there to put some pieces to

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the puzzle together. So yes,
yeah, exactly. So everybody out there,

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you listen to Mike and you go, you go report your your story

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at least write it down or you
know people so I can't write, well

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you can talk, so record it
records your case. So it's you know,

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future researchers can. In most smartphones
you can do like those voice notes

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where you talk in it converts it
the text. Just tell a story like

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you were telling anywhere you go,
like, hey, this is what happens.

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Don't worry about the grammar. You're
not don't worry about that. Just

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get it out there, like before
you forget or before you know, get

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it recorded, document it with somebody
who's doing research or that can memorialize it

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for the future. You may be
the missing you may be the missing link

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or have the missing link of information. I never know, absolutely, so

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we will jump into the UFO hot
spots of the UK, I guess,

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but we should probably take our first
break, so we will be right back.

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back, Linda, ready to put
our jet packs on and shut on all

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across the pond. A little inside
joke there from tonight. But I'm interested

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in this topic because often when it
comes to the UK, we hear about

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a few very select incidents, like
the rentals Forrest incident, which is I'm

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sorry, we're not allowed to mention
Randelsham. It's been used way too many

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times. No Randelsham on this show. No, that's what when people think

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about the UK, what's their mind
always got? Oh Randelsham, Randelsham,

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randels it's on everything. But yes, that's just you know, there's so

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much more than that. Yeah,
I mean it's a fabulous case. Don't

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don't get me wrong, But yes, there it is in the same time

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frame that we're gonna be talking about
later and the show, so that it's

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interesting to me. Oh, you're
gonna sneak it in. I know it

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a little. We'll get to it, okay. So before I left on

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the symposium, I had scribbled some
notes of you know, these places I

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wanted to talk about. I had
taken some, and one of them I

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didn't. I just wrote down the
village of Bonsall, which is in the

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Darbyshire Dells and charming, supposedly lots
of cool looking cottages and of course pubs.

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Everything has to have a pub or
two or five. But I didn't.

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I didn't flesh out the notes.
And so remember about that that big

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disc that race on the other one
hundred and eighteen people in Kentucky holding it

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like, you know, like it
was a shield, And I'm thinking,

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I've never heard of that. So
this is how freaking weird my life is.

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Because I come back from the symposium
like a day or two later,

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I'd start taking the notes and guess
what shows up in the village of Bonsall.

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Yes, a sideways aircraft carrier.
You got it. Okay. So

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it's two thousand and one and Sharon
Rowlands sees something over near her property and

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she's watching it, and she's watching
it and for minutes, and she runs

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in and gets her cam quarter and
actually films it. This is a case

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where somebody they're not afraid to film
it, they have the wherewithal to get

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their camcorder. They film. It's
a disk with colored lights, but rather

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than sitting flat horizontal, HiT's sitting
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with it, you know. So
in my mind, I'm saying at the

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symposium, gee, I've never heard
of a you know, a prolonged case

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where a disk is up on its
side. So, of course, seventy

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two hours later, I'm home writing
about this woman seeing this disc. How

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can I not do what I do
when my life is so weird? Exactly

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so, this craft was silent,
It was so low she thought it might

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actually land. And then she said
she described him as engines engine. She

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didn't know what to say. Two
pulsing engines on either side of the craft

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started doing something and the craft just
blinked out and was gone. So she

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actually showed this NASA was I don't
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Maybe they've I don't know, they
have an office there, they have something.

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Somehow they contacted each other and they
actually reviewed the cam quarter footage and

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they said they can't say what it
was, but it was not a weather

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balloon. It was something made of
metal and it didn't seem to be conventional.

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So that's that's from the lips of
NASA in two thousand and one when

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they really didn't want to talk about
such things. So before she contacted NASA,

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she she didn't tell anyone because I
love this, you know, in

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her own inimitable style, she said, well they'll they'll think you Bonkas,

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won't they. So she didn't talk
about it. But a week later somebody

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else here we go, you don't
report it. Well, somebody else had

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seen it and took a photo,
and that photo was in the newspaper.

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You can look that up. Bonsle
UFO b O N S A L L

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And it kind of looks like a
series of concentric circles on a disc shaped

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object on its side, you know, was it a hoaxt photo. I

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don't know the provenance of the photo, but the newspaper published it, and

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then she decided. At that point, you know, once you realize you're

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not the loan nut, you feel
more confident to talk about it. So

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I tried to track down that video. I figured by now it's all over

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the internet and I couldn't find it. And in a somewhat res an interview,

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she says, no, it's locked
in a vault and I'm not showing

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anyone. I'm like, well,
that's weird. There is some rumor she's

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not showing anyone because she sold it
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I don't know. I'm just saying, what you know, it just

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doesn't make sense if she was willing
to talk about it, showed it to

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NASA, but now she won't show
it. Maybe because she doesn't have it,

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I don't know, but but very
cool. You can see the photo

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though. Farmers throughout the area will
be working in their fields and suddenly a

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bright light will engulf them, which
is net for a good thing. They

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see silver shapes, they see bright
lights that turn green, They see rotating

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beams of light. They see balls
of fire. And this is one of

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my favorite. One farmer I think
it was a farm. No, it

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was a man out walking his dog. And there's this sudden pink glow in

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the sky. And there's a craft, he said, which looked like a

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vertical shoe box. Not the most
narrow dynamic of craft. No, not

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not not a typical observed object,
No, No, very rare. The

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rectangles and squares, I'm very interested
in them. So of course, the

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local hotels getting guests from all over
who want to go on UFO tours,

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and so they were providing that.
But I loved this. They installed a

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hot tub overlooking the valley for skywatchers. That's my idea of skywatching. Get

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a nice beverage, getting the hot
tub, and if you don't see UFOs,

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who cares? If you do,
exactly great, And it's a good

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reason to keep going back every night. That's right, you know. So

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yeah, so next time either of
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we need to go to Bonsall and
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I had to bring it up.
The other claim to fame, other than

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being a UO hot spot, it
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Did you say, did you say
hen racing in racing, Yes, as

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opposed to rooster racing, because that
would probably break out into a bloody cock

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fight. So they exclusively use hens
every August. You can bring your own

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hen, or you can rent one
for five pounds. And you have to

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watch this video from the twenty twenty
two championship. There's the They have these

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barricades up a thirty foot long course, screaming people all around, and people

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are in the end holding their hands
and they're like one, two, three,

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go, and they let the hens
go, and the hens kind of

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stand there and wander around a little
pick the ground. Occasionally one actually runs.

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The championship time is three seconds because
that hand just took off, but

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they said usually it takes a lot
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And then the winning owner they get
a bag of meal worms and a trophy.

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So I mean, good for the
hen they get, they get their

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extra snack there, I mean for
running that whole thirty feet or walking slowly

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and just happening to stumble over the
finish line. So here we have two

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ideal reasons to go to the village
of Bonsall. So UFO watching. If

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you go in August, you can
rent a hen and maybe win a bag

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of meal worms, although that would
be very interesting to bring back through customs.

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So that that is the village of
Bonsall. Uh pretty cool, right,

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Yeah, I'm not sure what's more
interesting the hen racing or the UFO

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fightings. I'm torn about this one, and you're lacking focus, like a

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head now worn by that. But
no, it's it's definitely interesting. The

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fact that how it's described the objects
being seen in that area. I think

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it's I think we need to do
boots on the ground at some of these

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places. Oh, we really do. It's, you know, such a

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variety of craft by so many different
people, and this is just a small,

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little, you know, quaint little
village. Why Bonds. It's like

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people always say, why Pine Bush? Why the Hudson Valley? I have

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no idea. And Rowlands is my
my paternal grandmother's maiden name, so it's

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a Welsh last day well at least
her family was Welch from Wales. Maybe

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you're related, all right, anybody
that's in bon Sol, would that last

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name reach out to me? There
you go, we could be cousins here,

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Yeah, do an ancestry yep,
cousins from an alien mother. So

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we have another UFO hot spot.
Should we take our second break or do

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you want to dive in your your
choice? Maybe let's do the second one,

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then we'll take our second Okay,
okay, all right, I'm sorry.

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No hens are involved in this.
Next I'm out of here. I'm

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sorry, but I know I'm out
of here. We are going to bonnie

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Bridge Sky. Bonnie Bridge is a
small town. They call it now the

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bonnie Bridge Triangle because anytime anything how
come, we don't call it the pine

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Bush Triangle or the Hudson Valley Triangle. I think we just did. Can

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we coin that? Yeah? Trade
market, we trade market, Okay,

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Hudson Valley Triangle. It's near fall
Kirk. If you know that area,

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it is known or they call themselves
the UFO Capital of the UK, And

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I admit I had not heard of
bonnie Bridge before, but so much has

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gone on. It really kind of
started around nineteen ninety one, not that

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things didn't happen before, but it
really picked up, which again kind of

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reminds me of pine Bush. You
know, the heyday was in the nineties.

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So in the area there's about one
hundred and seventy five thousand people,

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sixty thousand of them have been witnessed
to something unusual the village. The village

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itself only has five thousand people,
so that's an astronomical number of witnesses.

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Yes, which it's almost half,
it's approaching half. Yeah, and that

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doesn't say that they've only seen one
thing. They could have had. Some

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of these people have witnessed things four
or five times, so but they're considered

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a witness. So it really is
an enormous amount. And again everybody says,

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why bonnie Bridge, We don't know. There's one man who said his

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brother came running in the house and
said balls of light were chasing him.

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Yeah, okay, sure, so
he goes outside. Well, I'll be

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damned there are balls of light swirling
around in like figure eights and silently making

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all these you know, bizarre motions
that conventional craft can't. There was a

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case November twenty third, nineteen ninety
six where they see something in the sky

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again and it turns out to be
two balls of lights doing aerobatics that's so

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not just hanging there, actually like
intelligently controlled maneuvers. And they hear they

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don't hear anything from the balls of
light, but they hear some helicopters approaching.

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Unmarked helicopters start trying to chase these
balls of light, which is you

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know, futile, because they said
it was like a cat and mouse game.

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they filed. They were just they
were just toying with them. There's a

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case of John Wilson who was with
a bunch of other people and they see

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these bright balls going up and down
and sideways and shooting off and coming back.

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They were just mesmerized. His daughter
was standing next to him, and

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I loved the description. She was
gripping his arm tightly. She was kind

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of freaking out because you have no
frame of reference, right, what are

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these things doing? They watched it
for fifteen to twenty minutes, mesmerized,

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and they've got video of it and
you can see it online of these you

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know, balls of light doing I
you know, I don't know what.

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And he just said, nothing moves
like that. And he also said,

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if you were to watch the whole
video, because there's a lot of swearing

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on there because everybody's like, what
the blank are we looking at oh my

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blank, what is at? Which
is genuine reactions? Right? Absolutely,

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it's not filtered. It's not you
know, thought of it's not you know,

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someone hasn't sat there and put thought
into what they're going to say.

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This is happening and they're reacting.
That's genuine. That's the kind of I

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witness testimony. You'd like to hear, absolutely like this. Yeah, So

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there were dozens and dozens of sightings
within a six month period that year.

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Triangles again, the balls of light, cigar shaped craft, some of them

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tilted upright again, come on,
what's going on? That's very unusual,

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and still to this day they have
about three hundred per year, which you

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know, for a village of five
thousand in a small area, it is

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really is really remarkable. So,
Brian, I think you need to pay

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particular attention to this since you are
currently on a road trip and this involves

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people suddenly finding themselves places they didn't
drive. So hopefully this will oh yeah,

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yeah, yeah, he's got thumbs
up. He wants to be someplace.

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If you get abducted, you call
me right first, do you start

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recording, then you call me.
So we are going to the Army Camp

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of Culti Braggin Training Camp, which
is not far from bonnie Bridge Cadets Sue

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under Hill and David Hardy. It's
August eighth, nineteen ninety three. They

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were supposed to be driving to this
Aberfoyle Visitors Center. The roads are not

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you know, small little country roads. It's about a forty minute drive and

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they're supposed to be there no later
than three forty five. But everything was

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going wrong that day at the training
camp, so they at a late start.

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They didn't get on the road until
two thirty. So they're driving and

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driving and she switches that she starts
driving, then David takes over and she

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said she just doves off and she
wakes up and they're both startled because there's

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a road sign that says Oban five
O B A N. They're like,

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wait a minute. Oben's a coastal
town which is near the West coast,

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which is like way way out of
their way. They had absolutely no idea

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how they got there. So they
turn around and start driving back and they

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think, great, we've got to
go all the way back. We're going

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to be so late. We're supposed
to be there at three forty five.

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They end up a ride at three
fifteen earlier than they should have, and

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between the mileage and you know they
mapped out the mileage, they somehow went

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one hundred and fifty three miles in
forty five minutes over bad roads. That's

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an average of two hundred miles an
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that's molding. So that is I'm
not sure they did that on those UK

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roads. Know how they got way
way out of their way and then they

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drive back in there early. That
is that is very, very bizarre.

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So that's not the only thing that's
happened to these two people. Just two

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days earlier, they're driving in the
area and they see all these little lights

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ahead of them down near the road
surface, Like what the heck is that?

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It was the reflection of their headlights
in the eyes of about fifty cats,

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which for some reason, we're all
congregated in this little circle. They

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were forming a circle by the side
of the road. That's a little that's

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a little unnerving. I get a
nerve when my one cat will just sit

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and stare at me for a couple
of seconds. Yeah, somebody said there's

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a fault line there, and maybe
there's some magnetic fields they're drawn to.

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I don't I don't know it,
so, yeah, you know, to

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stretch of fault lines. I mean, don't you think that would happen more

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than I know? So I know
it's stretching it. But they're they're look,

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you know, you're grasping for you
know, and then two days later

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you end up in Oban and missing
time. So we go ahead two years

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and these same poor two people they're
leaving the camp at nine thirty pm and

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they're driving to the town of Calendar
to have dinner at a Chinese restaurant.

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They make it to the restaurant,
fine, they eat, They leave the

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restaurant at eleven forty five. They
sat a beautiful clear night, the moon's

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reflecting in the lake. They're driving
along. All of a sudden, she

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says, David, just panics,
absolute panics, slams on the breaks.

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What the heck is wrong? There's
the sign that says Oban five, the

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same freaking location that they were two
years ago. This was seventy miles out

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of their way. They have no
idea how they got there, so they

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are right. We just like last
time. That's not panic, although they're

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panicking let's turn around and go back
the same way. We'll find out.

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You know. Suddenly they do not
recognize the road. They said that the

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signs look old fashioned. There are
no cars. There's no cars even parked

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in front of people's homes. Nobody's
homes have a car. They don't see.

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I know, but I would be
flipping out. Then they come to

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this railroad bridge, this enormous railroad
bridge they had to drive under. Neither

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of them had ever seen this railroad
bridge on this road before. And they

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come to find out there used to
be a railroad bridge there, but it

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had been demolished in nineteen sixty five. This is nineteen ninety five, thirty

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years later, and they're driving under
a rail road bridge and there they have

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to be in an incredible state of
hysteria. And then just like that,

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everything's back to normal. There's other
cars, the road looks familiar. They

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get back to camp. They think
it's probably the wee hours of the morning.

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The camp gates are still open and
they're like, why are you still

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at the gates open because it's not
time to close them yet. They actually

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arrived early back to camp, even
though they went one hundred and forty miles

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out of their way. I love
this case. It's fascinating. I mean,

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there's so much to dissect. I
know how many cases involved missing time,

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yes, but this is a time
slip yea. How many cases do

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people report going back into time and
ahead into time or I back in time

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but going The only thing I can
relate to is I remember years ago someone

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flying in the Bermuda Triangle toward Florida
and he goes into this swirling cloud mass

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and ends up getting to his destination
way ahead of time without expending the fuel.

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Yeah, because here you just don't
have miss missing time. You have

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missing time, but you have more
accelerated time. How are you getting It's

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yeah, very unusual case. And
the nape, Yeah, the landscape is

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different. There's a bridge there that
shouldn't be there. So so Brian,

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if you see a sign that says
oban five, uh call us yeah,

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FaceTime. So one last bit on
the Bonnie Bridge. Here there's a local

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politician, account Counselor Billy Buchanan.
Since nineteen ninety two, he has written

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to every Prime minister members of the
Scottish Parliament. He is demanding an investigation,

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you know, for thirty one years
now. He's like, we deserve

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answers all the craft I talk about. Also, people are seeing them coming

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in and out of the water where
we heard that. There's another invest you

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know, nobody's done anything, so
he keeps trying. But there's a local

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investigator, Malcolm Robinson, who has
interviewed people who've seen all those craft and

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spheres. And also I have to
manage he says. People claim grays have

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been abducting them from their beds.
So it's like the whole ball of alien

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wax here in bonnie Bridge and the
best apparently the best placed to see anything.

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This I caught my attention because you
know, we both love ancient stone

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sites. The best location is a
place called High bonnie Bridge where there's an

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ancient broch. Now, the brochs
are the circular towers that are about two

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the Tapach broch. It's about two
thousand years old. And do I think

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they were they're drawn to these ruins. No, but maybe they put the

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broch there because that's where things,
you know, what they considered to be

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supernatural, maybe spiritual. Maybe that's
where they thought the guard gods were two

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thousand years ago. Because all these
lights. So we need to get to

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bonnie Bridge and Bonsall I think road
trip. Yeah, I'm gonna look a

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little bit more into that area,
see where it is on map exactly,

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and you know, may have to
may have to get to the UK quicker

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than I thought. Yes, one
they go back for you know a lot

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of reasons, but I guess this
is a good one. Yeah. So

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if we if we ever get to
do our Orkney trip, I think bonnie

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Bridge High bonnie Bridge will be uh
a little excursion there. And hope we

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don't see a sign that says open
five. Well, if you let let

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my sense of direction navigate, we
know how that would be bind up.

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Maybe maybe I'll freak you. See, I know where you live, so

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maybe I'll have Bob make up a
sign that says open five and put it

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at the end of your street.
That would be funny anyway. So yeah,

406
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:51.920
so two very hot hot spots in
the UK. And when we come

407
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back from our second break, you
are going to blow our minds even further.

408
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Mike with a cop case. Correct, Yes, we are going to

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delve into the police. Be right
back. This is Hudson River Radio dot

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com, your local Rockland County station. This is Hudson River Radio dot com

411
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and we are back continuing our investigation
of some interesting sightings in the United Kingdom

412
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.199
and Linda. As as everyone probably
knows by now if you don't, I

413
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am a retired police officer police sergeant, and so whenever I see police officer

414
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.960
related encounters, I get, you
know, I perk up a little bit

415
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.920
more because I find those tend to
be very just very interesting to me.

416
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.880
Because police officers, for the most
part, would have avoided making such reports,

417
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:04.199
especially in years before, where it
just it wasn't as popular it is

418
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.440
today. It wasn't accepted, and
it could be a career killer. You

419
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.440
know. It could mean you were
no longer going to be getting promotions,

420
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.199
or it could mean maybe you're not
going to have a job, or people

421
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.000
weren't going to think you were credible. People are going to question your sanity.

422
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.920
So police officers are very reluctant to
report things like that in general.

423
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.000
You know, they used to when
I was first doing ghosts with you.

424
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.840
You know, it would be kind
of a joke until privately, like hey

425
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.719
listen, I had this happened,
you know, but because they did have

426
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.920
experiences, but they weren't running around
telling everybody, So you know, there's

427
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.599
a certain level of credibility that I
think they start with. Doesn't mean they're

428
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.800
always telling the truth, but I
tend to believe them a little bit more,

429
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.199
if that makes sense. So we're
going to talk about a police officer,

430
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:58.880
police Constable Alan Godfrey with the West
Yorkshire Police, and his story is

431
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.760
very interesting. But in order to
tell his story, he has an encounter

432
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.679
on November twentieth, nineteen eighty,
but we have to go back to June

433
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.800
sixth of nineteen eighty, So a
few months before, there's a gentleman in

434
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.679
the area named Man, an older
man named zig munt A Domski, known

435
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:22.079
as Ziggy, so we're gonna call
him Ziggy. Okay, So Ziggy is

436
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.159
a fifty six year old man.
He is a miner and an immigrant,

437
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:31.039
and he disappears from his home on
June sixth, nineteen eighty just vanished.

438
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:37.920
Go on, They obviously start looking
for him, concerned about his well being.

439
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:43.559
Fifty six year old man doesn't just
normally wander away, and he is

440
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:49.960
found three days later, twenty miles
away, on top of a ten foot

441
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:55.199
pile of coals. So he's twenty
miles from home and he's up on a

442
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:01.360
coal pile. But that's not the
weirdest part. He was last seen in

443
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.880
his soup and he was found still
wearing his suit. However the shirt was

444
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.639
missing, so he's still wearing his
suit but no shirt. His watch and

445
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:16.679
his wallet were missing. His hair
had been roughly cut. He had one

446
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.920
day of beard growth, so apparently
he was clean shaven when he left.

447
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:30.280
Should have three days of beard growth, had one day. Now, there

448
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.079
was a lot of rumors ball lightning
got him that was one of them KGB.

449
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.920
Now I don't I'm not sure.
I didn't see a lot of expansion

450
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.880
on why the KGB would have been
after him. Maybe because of his where

451
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.840
he lived prior, but what do
you think the coal on top of a

452
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.079
coal pott? Yeah, this is
a very This case gave me chills when

453
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.760
I first heard about it. And
the fact that Alan Godfrey was the one

454
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:07.840
who was finding this body and then
what happened to him just puts it in

455
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:15.320
you know, exponential weirdness. It's
very you know, talking about missing people

456
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:22.360
showing up like with their clothes not
buttoned right or in weird places. If

457
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:30.480
if you interested in the missing people. That of course is David Politis Forte.

458
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.280
He has tons of books and I
got to meet him at the symposium.

459
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.760
He was the keynote speaker and great
guy and but boy, his stories

460
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:45.239
will creep you out. They just
and this fits you know, some of

461
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.920
the profiles. It just somebody vanishes
and then you found them where, right,

462
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.679
and under what circumstances exactly? Yeah, and no you can't determine cause

463
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:02.079
of death. And so this was
very weird. But this is not not

464
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.440
the weirdest part, right for poor
Alan So and I do I do want

465
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.039
to mention. I forgot to mention
that not only was his you know,

466
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.039
shirt missing, his watch, his
clothes are improperly fastened. So by that

467
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.119
I'm I'm assuming they mean buttons or
zippers and things like that. So somebody

468
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:25.519
redressed him wrong, right and cut
his hair. Yeah, again, it

469
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.119
begs the question why exactly. But
we'll move on to talk more about the

470
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:36.159
police officer Godfrey, who, as
you mentioned, was the first there on

471
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.079
the scene to to see him,
mister Zigi. Now, in November twenty

472
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:47.079
eighth, nineteen eighty, there's reports
of cattle wandering in a nearby village cattle,

473
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:57.079
wondering that's a thing. Yep,
he responds, And this is an

474
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:04.119
interesting one because he sees a bright
long ahead. It is a rotating diamond

475
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:10.079
shape object about twenty feet in height
fourteen feet in width, and he sees

476
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.239
us. He attempts to get on
his radio to call for backup. That's

477
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.800
his first instinct. His radio is
not working. So nineteen eighty this is

478
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.360
well before cell phones or any other
thing. You had your radio, and

479
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.079
if that didn't work, you're on
your own as a cop. So his

480
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:31.559
radio doesn't work. Then all of
a sudden, he just vanished, and

481
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:39.199
he woke up thirty yards down the
road. So he's a vanished as he

482
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:44.559
like, basically just wakes up.
He loses his consciousness and wakes up thirty

483
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:51.639
yards away. Under hypnotic regression,
he described it was missing. He was

484
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.840
missing thirty minutes of time, by
the way I should mention that. So

485
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.599
he goes unconscious, wakes up at
thirty minutes later, thirty yards away.

486
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.679
So under hypnotic regression, he reported
that he had seen a bright beam of

487
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.639
light at which he passed out.
Then his next recollection was he woke up

488
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:15.039
in a room and it was a
medical procedure being performed on him by little

489
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.280
small beings and a humanoid. So
it seems like two different descriptions, not

490
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.920
just like we normally hear the grays
or you know, it's small creatures and

491
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:31.800
a humanoid. Now there's some of
it, you know. I think in

492
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.639
twenty eighteen he said he was never
He might have been a dream who was

493
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.639
recounting. You know, I don't
know what what the case is today with

494
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.320
him, but well, but he
did do a sketch. Yes, as

495
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:51.880
as he was sitting there. So
yes, that's huge. We have a

496
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.880
yes. Is he recounting things or
is he trying to change the story for

497
00:45:54.960 --> 00:46:01.159
other reasons? Yeah, as we
know that's happened. So again, police

498
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.679
officers, I tend to think again, I'd like to think he was being

499
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:12.559
honest his first assessment and he had
some kind of experience there. Yeah,

500
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:19.199
and the little bit about not being
able to have children. Did you get

501
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.159
into that part? No? I
did not. Okay, so chicken scratch,

502
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:29.719
I could not read. Before this
event, he had had an injury

503
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:37.559
sometime previously which the medical the medical
result of this injury, he could not

504
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:47.280
have children. Okay. Soon after
this event, his wife got pregnant and

505
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:54.920
it apparently it was his and he
had a son. Very strange. People

506
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:04.960
don't usually spontaneously become fertile after a
serious injury. So just another level of

507
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:13.840
weirdness on top of all this.
So we have the the ciggy disappearing,

508
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.880
ending up on top of a pile
of coal, misdressed, with his hair

509
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:24.960
cut, no cause of no discernible
cause of death. We have his Godfrey's

510
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.199
sighting where he did a sketch.
You can look that up. Look up

511
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.199
Alan Godfried's sketch. He made it
as he's sitting there looking at it,

512
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:40.719
then has the missing time and then
suddenly he can have a child again.

513
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:52.679
Yeah, that's what's going on over
there, Nightly. I think we started.

514
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.440
We have to start making field trips
here, Yeah, field investigations.

515
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:01.079
You know, so much weirdness,
so little time and so little money to

516
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:07.519
travel. Yeah. I remember years
ago they offered I don't remember which airline.

517
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.280
It was a considerable a mount but
in retrospect, what a deal.

518
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.679
It was like unlimited travel, like
you know, ticket for the rest of

519
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:24.119
your life, some big lump sum. They offer a few of those grand

520
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.559
or something. Yeah, but the
people that I've read stories about it where

521
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.039
people have done that and then just
travel. I mean, they have gotten

522
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.920
more than their you know, the
airlines would never think to do that today.

523
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.440
Oh yeah, baggage fees. That's
like two flights now, so they

524
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.960
probably hate when this person calls,
you know, to make another schedule another

525
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.679
flight, like, oh god,
not him again. But you know,

526
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.360
I wanted to mention something about some
of these sightings. We keep seeing balls

527
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.480
of light balls, you know,
they're described as balls of light, and

528
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.960
it just things pop into my head. I'm I'm sudying World War Two at

529
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.079
the moment back in college, so
can hear it. I'm going for another

530
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.800
degree here in history. But it
reminded me of the food fighter sightings later

531
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.360
in World War Two. They were
described as balls of light Christmas lights,

532
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.639
you know, that were following.
So again, are they related? Maybe

533
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:21.159
not, but it's just interesting when
you start seeing those connections. Yeah,

534
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.840
the Germans thought it was the Americans. The Americans thought it was the German

535
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.400
secret project, and guess what it
wasn't either of ours, right, And

536
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.320
that's what I what I really like
about those sightings from the pilots is,

537
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.360
like you said, the initial sightings. People thought, Okay, those are

538
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.960
the Germans with their advanced airplanes,
their rocket you know airplanes, and the

539
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:44.079
Germans thinking the same thing about the
Americans. And here, meanwhile, it's

540
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:49.920
neither side was was causing it.
Yeah, and you know you're you're flying

541
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:57.519
U combat mission over enemy territory.
You're you know, your life depends upon

542
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:04.079
your ability to observe. And so
many pilots saw these. This was not

543
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:09.519
imagination. And yeah, the English
and the Americans and the Germans all saw

544
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.519
them. So I just think it's
some interesting coincidence that sometimes we start seeing

545
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.840
when you hear about these sightings and
start putting, you know, two plus

546
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.159
two together, and unfortunately in the
UFO field, it always adds up to

547
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:28.920
six or seven instead of right two
two four? No, no, And

548
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.360
you know, I wanted to just
switch subjects too slightly. And this is

549
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.039
something I see a lot of lately
online in different Facebook groups about UFOs that

550
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.679
I'll sometimes troll and and sort of
lurk in the background in its crop circles

551
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:49.599
in the UK and the thoughts that
people have about them. What do you

552
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:57.119
think? What is your I think
spot here? Yeah, yeah, I

553
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:02.920
think there's a long history of circular
depressions or other shapes of depressions made in

554
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.199
crops. You know, we had
one in pine Bush, that we had

555
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:14.000
one in wall Kill. It happens
if a craft gets low, it will

556
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:22.159
make a depression the geometric shapes and
faces. And now I don't and oh,

557
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:25.960
it's the aliens communicating with I'm going
to get a lot of hate mail

558
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:35.239
from this, but but really bending
wheat is their best way communicate. Here

559
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.199
here's hold hold my beer. About
the hate mail, I'm about to about

560
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:42.199
to take it from you. You
know, that's been my one of the

561
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.719
things in my reading these comments,
I see that all the time. It's

562
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.039
a message, it's about this,
and I'm thinking, you know, in

563
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.880
what's seventy seven, we sent out
the voyager probes, with each probe having

564
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:59.800
a golden gold plated record a phonograph
for for those of us who remember,

565
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:07.440
with pictures recordings of Earth and on
that. We put the instructions on how

566
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.239
to listen to it because there's messages
on there. We actually they included a

567
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.159
needle so they could play the record. Because for those people that were born

568
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.320
after I don't know, nineteen ninety, you know, you had to have

569
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.719
a little needle that went on the
record, and you know, forget it.

570
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:27.000
You won't, you know, slick
it up something your parents or grandparents

571
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:32.079
had. But we did that in
seventy seven. One nineteen seventy seven technology

572
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:37.159
a phonograph with instructions. But yet
we're to assume that an alien species which

573
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:43.039
has mastered interstellar to travel to get
here. Obviously they would have to comes

574
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.440
here, and the only way they
can communicate is by bending wheat, making

575
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:51.239
figures and then disappearing. Yeah,
well, here's here's a message for Earth.

576
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.320
It's a bunch of squiggly shapes.
It's a gem at trick. It

577
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:58.639
looks very cool. But why why
would if you have a message and you're

578
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:00.239
that advanced, Is that how you're
going to communicate in the middle of a

579
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:07.960
remote farm field? Yeah, your
hate mail too, Michael Jay Warden care

580
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.440
of I just go back to that, because it's like, it's such a

581
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:22.000
common sense if we did it in
seventy seven. Now, if you're introducing

582
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:27.960
common sense into uphology, you're not
going to get very You are not going

583
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:32.360
to get on ancient aliens. I'm
sorry, darn it. I'm taking my

584
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:37.599
ball and going home all right,
all right, all right, sorry for

585
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.599
the curveball, but that just kind
of popped in my head as we're we're

586
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:45.239
on the subject of the UK,
because it always seems to be so focused

587
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.800
on the United Kingdom, the crop
circles, and like you said, there's

588
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:57.480
a difference between depressions, circular depressions, multiple circular depressions where allegedly craft had

589
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:06.679
landed or contacted versus elaborate designs and
intricate things like that. Yeah, I'm

590
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.679
with you, so yes, please
direct your hate mail to Michael J.

591
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:15.000
Ward. Yes, I'm easily google
ball you more than welcome to sends it.

592
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.039
All right, Well take us out
in your own inimitable style. Well,

593
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.239
thank you everybody once again for joining
us here on UFO Headquarters. And

594
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