1 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:13,439 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by Fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:16,920 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck up, I 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,839 just stept on Stay loftus. Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nuno 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,679 Fantasy Hockey Life. This is Jesse Severe for Fan Tracks, joining you, 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,679 and across from me is absolutely nobody. Who where do you go? Victor? 6 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:37,119 Where are you? Victor is not here today, and that is because 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,600 this is going to be an episode like none other in Fantasy Hockey Life history. 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Victor Nuno and Peter Harling of Dabber Prospects Radio went to the NHL Draft 9 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:53,240 in Nashville last week and they brought home a whole big bag of goodies that 10 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:57,200 I have edited it up and you're going to be hearing it on your Fantasy 11 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Hockey Life feed today and then next week the second half of it on the 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Dauber Prospect Radio feed. So if you're coming over here for the first time 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,599 from Dauber Prospect Radio, welcome, and I hope you enjoy what you're going 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,120 to hear. A couple of general housekeeping things that I want to mention before 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,439 I kind of give you a little more intel on what exactly you're going to 16 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:21,239 hear today that Victor and I usually talk about at the outset. Listener questions 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,519 can be provided to us. The best place to do that is on our 18 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:27,239 discord, Fantasy Hockey Life Discord. All you have to do to be a 19 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:30,879 part of that, because it's free, is to let Victor and I know 20 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,719 you want to be a part of it. You can email us Fantasy Hockey 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,359 Life at gmail dot com. You can hit us up on Twitter at fan 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,239 Hockey Life is me at Victor Nuno twelve is Victor. 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Fitcher and Peter 58 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:11,400 brought back a whole bunch of wonderful audio from the draft, and we have 59 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,319 interviews with general managers, we have interviews with players, and we have conversations 60 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:20,439 with hockey talkers. Are some of our best buddies. And I'll indicate to 61 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:25,040 you here in a minute, I'll name them off for you. Let me 62 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,839 tell you something about the GM and player stuff. These were scrums. These 63 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,759 are not individual interviews. Sitting down would have been great to do that, 64 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,720 but that's how the draft works. You get into scrums, everybody sticks their 65 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,600 microphone out, and you're sort of at the mercy of the people who ask 66 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,279 questions. You get to hear the players very well, and you really sometimes 67 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,040 can't even hear the questions. And it's in a big, noisy room, 68 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,879 so we're doing our best. You've seen all this stuff on TV before. 69 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,879 And let me tell you some of the people ask the players pretty weird questions. 70 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:57,480 They love to ask players about, Oh, how did it feel hearing 71 00:04:57,519 --> 00:05:00,160 your name called on stage? And who if you your family was there? 72 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,639 And how you know who do you want to thank from your Okay, that's 73 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:09,680 that's great stuff. And I understand exactly why those questions are being asked because 74 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,800 people are writing for their publications a story about how so and so is coming 75 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,399 to the city now and playing for the local NHL team and this is a 76 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,560 dream come through. And here's a pull quote of you know, I just 77 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,920 couldn't believe hearing my name and crossing the stage and grabbing the jersey for the 78 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,439 first time. That's just great. I tried to cut as much of that 79 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,360 stuff out as I could, because what you guys are going to want to 80 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:34,839 hear, I know, is not that over and over and over or just 81 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,800 really dull talking points from players. But what we can glean of these interviews 82 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:45,759 that is about their game or little nuggets you might be able to get to 83 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 bout the players, like them talking about the teammates they played with in the 84 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,759 past, or their relationships they have on their incoming teams, or connections that 85 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,560 they might have with their teams, and other little personal information should uget. 86 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Some of them are fun. Some of them were fun. Some of them 87 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:08,360 are the Montreal media asking over and over and over whether whether somebody's coming to 88 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:11,759 Montreal or not. Especially the interviews. Some of these interviews were taking place 89 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,480 before some after the actual draft, so we have slightly different takes there. 90 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:20,319 The things that you're kind of the bulk of our episode here, folks, 91 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:26,000 is the Hockey Talkers, and for this episode alone, we have they split 92 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,519 into two episodes. Like I said, so, on this episode alone, 93 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,439 Victor has a conversation with Tony Ferrari of the Hockey News. Then we have 94 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:41,439 Peter Barrocchini of the Hockey Writers, Cam Robinson of EP Ringside, We've got 95 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:46,920 brock Otten from mckeens, J D. Burke of EQ Ringside, and chaplain 96 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,079 Landvoked of McKean's six interviews. And here's what I tried to do. Sometimes 97 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,480 some of these players come up in the interviews, and what I've done is 98 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,519 I've interjected the audio from the player after the interviews, and I'm going to 99 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,800 be coming to you throughout the episode to sort of set up what you're going 100 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:12,000 here. So everybody has to excuse us the audio. It's difficult, but 101 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:15,480 I did try to cut out the chap. I basically left all the gms 102 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,800 on the cutting room floor because none of them said anything interesting. We've got 103 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,040 one GM interview and I've got a lot of audio, but I can't use 104 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:25,279 it. I want just the useful stuff to go out to you folks. 105 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:28,240 So that's enough set up for this. Let's take a break, come back 106 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:46,480 with our first interview. First of on our agenda. As I said, 107 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Tony Ferrari of The Hockey Years, Victor interviews him about several players, Cody 108 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:58,279 Barlow, Callum Ritchie, Andrew Gibson, Kim Allen and Nick Lartis. Let's 109 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,839 listen to that interview right now here with the Tony Ferrari from the Hockey News, 110 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,959 and we're gonna rock out some OHL prospects. Are you not too bad? 111 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,439 Are you doing buddy? Here you join the draft. Yeah, it's 112 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,519 been a good time. I have a lot of prospects, a lot of 113 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,279 pigs. There's a lot of conversations with the kids, which is always fine. 114 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,800 Yeah, here your first draft in person? Right, first draft in 115 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,079 person. COVID has not treated me well, missing the two first two when 116 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:26,639 I got credentialed with COVID shutdowns and then I got COVID for the first time 117 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,959 before last year's draft, and just the luck of the draw. It's been 118 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,720 wonderful. It's good. It's good that you're here in Person's good to media. 119 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,399 Let's talk about some of these OHL guys because there were some interesting ones. 120 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:37,840 One of the ones that I want to talk about. First, Winnipeg 121 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,960 Jets getting Coldly Barlow, best facial hair in the draft. What do you 122 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,240 think any good fantasy up side? What do you think we can expect he's 123 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:48,159 gonna be a multi caat guy. I think he's gonna be a physical player. 124 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,120 I think he's I don't know where the offensive upside lands. I think 125 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,120 you could be like a twenty twenty guy, maybe a twenty twenty five, 126 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 twenty five guy. I do have some concerns about his offensive production, but 127 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,360 he's gonna be a guy that gets your hits to sketch a box like a 128 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:05,159 lot of those little things. He's an interesting prospect because he's going to play. 129 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,559 I think you're safe if you draft him in your fantasy draft. But 130 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,960 how high do you want to take the safe pick when you're going to pass 131 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:15,840 up some upside probaway. So that's gonna be the big question with Parlament for 132 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,000 sure. Yeah, what about the Colorado Avalans taking Callum Ritchie at twenty seven? 133 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,279 I think that could be the sneakiest pick in the first round. Maybe 134 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,919 He dealt with shoulder injury's literally all season long. Separated early in the year 135 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,519 and then separated twice more throughout the year. Chose to play through it, 136 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,159 which is always a tough decision. You don't want to have a bad time 137 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,559 in your draft year where you're not playing. Got the surgery after the season. 138 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:39,720 I talked to him after his surgery, they said that everything went really 139 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,720 well. Damage wasn't as bad as they thought, and he still was able 140 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,080 to take on the role of being the guy in Oshwa. I think that 141 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Oshwa team doesn't have a ton of talent. They're gonna get some more as 142 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,080 these younger players developed, but he's gonna be able to take on a role 143 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,240 as the guy there. And I think that next year we're gonna see the 144 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,960 true callum Richie. And this year, like he even mentioned it when I 145 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,679 talked to him, the shot Sometimes to take the shots, it hurts to 146 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,159 stick handle certain movements. It just he wasn't able to be at full force. 147 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Seeing him at full force next year, we could be going, man, 148 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,639 he should have been the first to each other taken. That's exciting. 149 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:13,559 So he may get a sneaky value there with yeah, especially because like a 150 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,799 lot of people in your Francy drafts are gonna go off the draft rankings or 151 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,759 off the draft board and they're gonna go OUs draft to twenty nine. Maybe 152 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:22,279 I don't want him. Do you sneak in there at twenty or something like 153 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,600 that, especially ahead of some of these more defensive minded players and go for 154 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,679 the forwards with the high offensive potential, calm Richer could be a good pick. 155 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,360 Yeah, like it. One of the ones that caught my eye is 156 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Detroit Red Wings forty two taking Andrew Gibson. Honestly didn't really know much about 157 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,759 him, but whenever Detroit takes someone, I always perked my ears up a 158 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:39,879 little bit. They seemed to draft, well, did they get a gem 159 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,120 there? He's an interesting player. He's defensive first, I think he was. 160 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,879 He did have a couple injuries this year that impeded him a little bit, 161 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:48,519 but he's a defensive guy. He's gonna get your block shots. He'll 162 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,679 get you some pits. He's a big boy. He's willing to throw the 163 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,840 body around. There is some unlocked off offense or untapped offensive potential, though, 164 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:58,480 I think there is. It gonna be huge, no, but if 165 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,559 you can get your twenty five ish points a year, plus add in the 166 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,200 hiss, plus add in the block shots, he can be a pretty valuable 167 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,120 depth piece Forayer. Okay, pretty likely to play in the show? Yeah, 168 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:09,399 I think there's a pretty high likelihood he plays in the show, or 169 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,159 at least has a good chance to do it. I think that's the big 170 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,039 thing. Is especially in the second round. Saying anyone's for sure NHL or 171 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,080 is a tough time. But he's a guy that certainly has a better chance 172 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,919 in a lot of the second third rounders. What about Florian Jack. We 173 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,559 know how to say his name because of his brother, and he was wondering 174 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,960 if they would pass on him again. But he waited a little bit early, 175 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,600 and I love that Montreal took him so he can be with his brother. 176 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,080 There is he someone that we should be interested in. He is a 177 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,799 guy that he still has a lot to round out right. I think he's 178 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,720 got some potential, but there is areas of his game that just aren't quite 179 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,279 up the stuff. The skating still needs to work. I think decision making 180 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,440 is still needing to work. And he's going to get your points if he 181 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,519 makes to the NHL level because he has gonna have a very defined role and 182 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,279 get those secondary stats and those multicat stats. Offensive potential is not really all 183 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,720 that high, though, So he's the guy that I look at and I 184 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:03,480 go, maybe wait a couple of years, see where he develops, and 185 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,519 take him in a redraft, or take him in a pack him up off 186 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,279 waivers or something like that. Cam Allen as someone who coming into the year 187 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,759 people were pretty excited about. He calls all the way to the fifth round 188 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,519 one thirty six to Washington. Is that does that great value or is he 189 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,879 should go there? He should go there? This year, after the year 190 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,679 he put up, it was really disappointing. Unfortunately, he was really good 191 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,360 in his D minus one. There's a ton of offensive potential, and then 192 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,200 it just didn't work this year, and he took on a bigger role. 193 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,720 He's playing against the top lines. He did lean towards the defensive end of 194 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,519 the ice a little bit more, and he was asked to do a lot 195 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,840 more. I talked to him today and he said that weighed on him a 196 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:39,679 lot. He had to be the guy, he had to take on a 197 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,960 leadership role. He had to be a big factor in generating offense for a 198 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,480 team that quite frankly didn't have much offense around him. So it's going to 199 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,679 be interesting to see if he can rekindle that form, because if he did, 200 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:54,759 then that's a great pick and he probably should have gone two rounds higher. 201 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,320 If not, then it's a flyer that they took. And I like 202 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,080 where he went because it is a good value pick good like late round Flyer, 203 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,720 especially where he went. You go, who's the guy that maybe makes 204 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,120 it? Who's a guy that maybe has an impact and he's shown that he 205 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,159 can do it, it just was a year ago. Any other guys that 206 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:16,919 do you think went like after the second round that are really interesting and maybe 207 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,879 we should pay attention to in fantasy drants. I think Nicko Lards is a 208 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:24,200 guy to watch. He's absolutely destroyed in the second half the year with the 209 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,720 handles and Bulldogs is going to be playing brand for this year when they as 210 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:31,360 they move. But this is a kid that was the second highest scoring OHL 211 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,840 player in the second half the year after the trade for Peterboro to Anilson, 212 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:37,399 and the shot is undenial. He plays with a son of speed. In 213 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,679 my opinion, he was the best goal scorer coming out of the OHL, 214 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:41,480 which is saying a lot because Musty had a lot of goals, got a 215 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:46,320 great shot. Barlow had almost fifty goals this year. In my opinion, 216 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,720 Nick Lards is the best shooter in that group, so I think he's going 217 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:50,759 to be a guy to keep an eye on. He needs to round out 218 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,200 of his game defensively and needs to work on being able a little bit more 219 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,279 a facilitator, but he's got so many offensive tools that you're like, if 220 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,960 you saw what he did in the second half with on a new team and 221 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,039 a new environment in the middle of a season being traded, what's he gonna 222 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,519 do next year when he has a full offseason, a full training camp, 223 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:09,399 knows the guys he's playing with, and he's able to facilitate and use his 224 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,320 skill over more. I love it, Thanks so much, Tony. Yeah, 225 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,279 anytime you heard about the guys talking about Nick Lardis as a reminder, 226 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,840 went to Chicago at pick number sixty seven overall in the draft. He's a 227 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,039 right winger. Victor had him ranked forty two in his pre draft rankings. 228 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:33,000 So here is Nick talking at the media day the last word of Radia. 229 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:39,320 No, I don't I don't think at that level obviously, but yeah, 230 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:43,039 I don't think. Now, how do you keep the confidence going after moving 231 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,159 from Peterborough to Hamilton and going into next season? Yeah, I think obviously 232 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,039 had a really good you know, second half of Hampton obviously moving to Bradford 233 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,720 next year. I want to continue that, not just in one half of 234 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:56,320 kind of both halfs of the season to continue on into the playoffs next year 235 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,159 and for a couple of years in the HL move So, do you have 236 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,919 any goals or benchmarks going forward for next season in Branford? I think just 237 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:07,600 um, I don't really have one points wise. I think it's just important 238 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,559 to focus day by day on making sure I'm getting one percent Petter every single 239 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:15,720 day and continuing my you know, to improve my strengths and weaknesses and grow 240 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,159 as a player. And hopefully if I can just focus on that, then 241 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,320 you know, it'll happen the long run for yourself, having your chance. 242 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,159 How Bobble Mogard you know the man video? Yeah, yeah, I saw 243 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,879 that. That was pretty funny. Yeah, it's a big an I question 244 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,440 about what kind of person? Yeah, I think just even talking with them 245 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:37,399 and in the combine we had good laughs and you know, they're great people 246 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,080 obviously all the organization I talked without the combine and throughout the year. So 247 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:45,200 watching that video it's pretty funny too. Maker missing off the hop. Just 248 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,679 what's it like being a Neverble Chicago Black Hop. Yeah, I mean it's 249 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:52,799 a dream come true obviously, Like I said before, it's my fairy team 250 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,240 growing up, you know, watching Patty Kane and Jonathan Tay's and all those 251 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,799 guys and seeing them in multiple cops, you know, kind of motivating me 252 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:03,080 to to be in their position one day. And obviously now you can taking 253 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,320 that big next step to getting drafted, not just to the NHL but to 254 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,559 my favorite team, to you know, where they were in their shoes about 255 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:15,440 ten fifteen years ago. So it's a really special that aspects. Sorry you 256 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,320 being rapper, Yeah, do you think you're life? I think Jessper Brown 257 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,919 in New Jersey, Timpson's on Ottawa. Those two guys I've uh, you 258 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,000 know, really watched a lot the past couple of years to study their game 259 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:30,000 on you know, how they generate scoring chances and in the way they use 260 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:33,679 their strengths, which is you know, their speed and skating abilities and their 261 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,200 IQ and all three zones of the ice. Just kind of you know, 262 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:40,039 picking little things from what they do on the ice and implement into my game. 263 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,159 So i'd say those two guys that you know, I love watch them 264 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:48,279 all right, Thank you. That was Nick Lardis. Now we're going to 265 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,440 move to our next expert interview, Peter Barracchini of the Hockey Writers. This 266 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:57,399 is Victor talking with him once again. Riley Hiking, Zimmer, Jaden Parrant, 267 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,679 Easton Cohen. Everybody loves to talk about Euston Cohen. Let's listen to 268 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,359 Peter and Victor right now. All right, we're here with Peter Barricchini of 269 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:11,839 the Hockey Writers. He Peter, doing great. How are you doing? 270 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,960 Yeah? Doing great? My first draft. I'm really enjoying it in person 271 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,799 anyway, party about you? Yeah, enjoying the atmosphere in national has been 272 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,000 really great so far. Yeah, So we definitely want to talk about some 273 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,880 guys who maybe went a little bit later that to have some really good fantasy 274 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,480 upside. And one of the guys who want to start with is Riley Height, 275 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,559 who went to quite a bit later than we all expected. What's your 276 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:34,039 take on him? Very later than expected? I think the consessus was he 277 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,839 was supposed to be a top fifteen, top twenty type of player, maybe 278 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:42,599 even just outside or just inside the first round twenty seven, twenty eight, 279 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,839 twenty nine, even towards the late first round. The fact that he dropped 280 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:51,519 that low towards the third is kind of surprising because he was dominant during the 281 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:55,839 WHL. He's a very slick quick and agile playmaker. He's got great hands, 282 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,160 He's got the speed and edges to maneuver his way around opponents. Be 283 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,680 very elusive, and I understand that he needs to have a little bit more 284 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,720 of a shot at it. He plays with the facey side too, so 285 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:08,720 I think that kind of would have appealed to some of the teams there that 286 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:11,640 you know what, Hey, he is a smaller player, he has a 287 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,319 competitive edge, he has a skill set already. How he drops Solow is 288 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,519 really beyond me at this point. Yeah, I was pretty surprised when that 289 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:22,839 went to sixty four all the way to Minnesota. Of course, Minnesota has 290 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:25,880 been drafting really well lately, so I really have for them. I think 291 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,599 that's a potential steel right then and there. Yeah, what's the other ones? 292 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,640 You know? Your eye on seeing Cohen zebra drop, I thought he 293 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,759 could have been at Lease a second. I believe he went third if I 294 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:41,160 recall, and yeah, this is a guy that scored in bunches at the 295 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:45,119 WHL. He's got a powerful shot, powerful release. Again, there's a 296 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,079 lot of question marks around and get skating, but with a lot of prospects, 297 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:52,359 skating is a really it's an aspect that could be fixed over time. 298 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,880 And if he's able to get a little bit more power, get a little 299 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,000 bit more stability into those legs, I think he could be a really solid, 300 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,599 an impactful player for Drink Los Angeles. Los Angeles seventy Signs took him. 301 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,400 Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a really good upside pick. 302 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:11,240 But then again, LA Kings in the past they have gone players with 303 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,960 high upside that maybe the translation is very much in doubt, and I think 304 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200 this could be one of those picks with Ziemer. Yeah, I love it. 305 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:22,880 Yeah, Ala has been doing really well with their picks. I love 306 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,640 that you got another one. Not at the top of my head at the 307 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,880 moment. Let me ask you about one then, yeah, go ahead, 308 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:33,640 Jaden Prawn to Carolina. Oh yeah, high upside guy. Yes, he's 309 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,039 small, but got a great motor, really a past, defensively a decent 310 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:42,680 two ways made. In the size, I think I think it is a 311 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,839 size. I think he's a five age five nine. Just I think he's 312 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,079 still hovering around one fifty one sixty. He needs to bulk up and put 313 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,519 on a bit of weighing, a little bit of muscle. I think, 314 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,759 like early on in the year. I believe he knew that was going to 315 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:57,759 be the case. But considering the upside and the same thing with Hype with 316 00:19:57,759 --> 00:20:02,759 the hands and the skill that he has, and even playing alongside Macklin Cellabriti 317 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:06,480 with the Chicago Seal, but they were like a dynamic pairer for that team. 318 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:08,599 And seeing him with what he could do with the pug drives hit the 319 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:12,519 middle of the ice very consistently and still maintain the control at a quick pace. 320 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,079 It's a very impressive of what he could do. So typical Carolina Hurricanes 321 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,160 pick where they always seem to pluck somebody out that should have been higher. 322 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,880 It falls right to them and they take advantage of that. It's good onto 323 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,839 Hurricanes because that was a really good pickup. Yeah, I love it too. 324 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,359 Why don't we look at the other way, Who are some guys who 325 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,160 maybe went pretty high that maybe it don't have the biggest fantasy upside, Maybe 326 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,640 someone who might get a little drafted too high in their fantasy leagues and that 327 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,839 maybe it doesn't have the highest up side. Biased with the Maple Leaves and 328 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Easton Cowam because yeah, he had a really average season production wise, but 329 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:48,759 then it started to take off in the playoffs, and you don't know if 330 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:52,920 that's easily going to be translatable to the next level. If he could do 331 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,319 that and pop off at his D one deep draft yer plus one season, 332 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:00,680 then maybe you might have something. But at the same time, it's a 333 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,000 lot of uncertainty because you don't know exactly what you're getting at the moment. 334 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,359 He is still very he fits the bill, what the maple Lease want, 335 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,720 high scale creativity, the work ethic. He's very great on pucketrievals and especially 336 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:15,480 in transition. He's a big factor in that. But in terms of production, 337 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,079 not quite sold on what he could become just yet, but it could 338 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:23,000 be one of those diamonds in the rough picks should he develop properly. It 339 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,960 was definitely a bit of a gasp shock when that pick happened. I think 340 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,839 we could say, oh, yeah, we were all a little surprised exactly. 341 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,680 Yeah, a lot of shock. But at the same time, they 342 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,160 don't need immediate help from the prospects right now, So waiting the three four 343 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,319 years to see him develop and see what he can do. I think that 344 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:45,279 would probably be ideal because even if he isn't if they're basically trying to turn 345 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:48,000 him into a top six player. He could still be a decent middle six, 346 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,640 bottom six option that's great energy and could be a complementary piece to other 347 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,519 players with high upside in the system. Yeah. That definitely thought to some 348 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,359 scouts to say that he would have gone in the next five to ten picks. 349 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 So if the play believes hadn't got him, so it seems like not 350 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:07,920 too wild, but maybe a little older than he would have otherwise gone good. 351 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:11,319 Like you said, developed properly, could be really good. Thanks so 352 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,519 much for doing this, no problem, Thank you so much. Yeah. 353 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:18,480 One of the players you heard mentioned in that interviewed Jade Puran. He was 354 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,279 picked number ninety four, big slipper in the draft. Victor had him ranked 355 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,480 number twenty three in the pre draft rankings. Forward for the Carolina Hurricanes. 356 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:34,359 Carolina always seems to get guys who are valued highly by draft Twitter if nothing 357 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,720 else. But we know why. We like his game. He's got some 358 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:45,680 bash. Let's hear from Jaden himself at the draft. I mean, he's 359 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,640 taught me so much and he's an amazing person even better coach. So yeah, 360 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,079 I'm super excited to be to be with Carolina. Some of the players, 361 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,319 you know what he's like. Yeah, I'll be playing with Jackson Blake 362 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,440 next year, so that'll obvious super exciting and such. Jarvists from from my 363 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 hometown, so kind of a few connections there, which which is very exciting. 364 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,880 I've met him a few times, but not not really too too well. 365 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,400 I think just how they play you it's such a such a fun team 366 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,599 to watch, and I think PNL played for them would be would be an 367 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:27,599 honor. This draft process, like beforean UM, it was. It was 368 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,039 exciting, definitely. There's there's nerves and in a bit of stress that goes 369 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,759 with it, but there's there's nothing I'd rather be doing, so it was 370 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,839 a lot of fun. Did you meet with You're lying a much? You're 371 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,480 out that process a few times a couple, I mean not the other combine 372 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,079 as well and just here and there throughout the season. Do you have a 373 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:49,640 good feeling at all when I'm not taking him more than um, Yes and 374 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,880 no. I think I was kind of just excited once I once I heard 375 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:02,160 my name that it was all it was all real dynamic friends. What do 376 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,119 you think that's going to do when you get high players? Yeah, I 377 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,680 think if they could definitely help me out, and I think we could make 378 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,640 each other better. I think that's definitely My goal is to be able to 379 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,839 play with the top players, and I think that's where I can make the 380 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:22,480 most impact. It's some bigger guys that are poking small as you that you're 381 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,039 going to continue doing as you get up bigger, bigger levels. Yeah, 382 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:30,160 I think definitely trying to round out my game is a big thing, and 383 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,559 you can't just be a one, one dimensional player in the NHL, So 384 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:36,880 I think that'll be a definitely something I'm trying to add. What's the next 385 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,799 step for you? Developmentally going to und next year, which I think will 386 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,079 be huge for me, and I think, like I said, rounding on 387 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,920 my game. I think they'll do a great job lot and on try I'll 388 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,680 learn a bunch of different things from from them. Makes a Jackson specifically earlier 389 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,000 and that's the easy time and Caroline would be but get definitely with them, 390 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,079 what's going to be I'm super excited for that. I think that I think 391 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,880 he's such a smart and skilled player that I think we could do very well 392 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:10,160 together. Awesome, thank you next up, very good friend of the show. 393 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:11,359 You know, because We've had him on a number of times, and 394 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,920 I think we're scheduled to have him on again. Cam Robinson a BP ringside. 395 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,200 This is an interview from both Peter and Victor. It was conducted relatively 396 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,799 late in the draft, and you're gonna hear really about some of the big 397 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,279 hitters, some of the top picks, as well as Zach Benson, Oliver 398 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:36,640 Moore, Incabe Pirot. And let's hear from Cam right now. All right, 399 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,640 Camp's this is like our fifth draft. Good times as always ain't always 400 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,160 a good time? All right? So Cam Robinson, formerly of Prospects, 401 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,599 now with Elite Prospects. Let's get some of fantasy thoughts from round one if 402 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,640 you don't mind, Yeah, okay, for sure. Let's start at the 403 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,839 top. I think after Connor Bdard, everyone knows he's gonna be awesome in 404 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,240 the first pick. But then most people's probably went Fantilly Carlson and then that 405 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,440 was flipped last night. Does that have any impact for you with their fantasy 406 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,359 values with them going where they went. I think it might improve Vantilly's early 407 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,200 stock. I would say, is that he was going to be going into 408 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,720 if he went to Anaheim. It's a young team. It's an up and 409 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:19,680 coming team. They have a lot of pivots there. Obviously it was Zegers, 410 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,920 they got me Tavish, they got Ryan Strong, kind of angering that 411 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,240 third, you'd have to expect that someone will be moving over now going to 412 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,200 CBJ. I think that opens up some small opportunities for him to play with 413 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119 some really talented players on the way. Was obviously join the good rope out 414 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,839 to line. It's gonna take a minute. He's not going to step into 415 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,240 that top line roll right away, but he should be a plug and play 416 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:41,519 asset. I haven't heard if he's fully committed to coming out yet, but 417 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,839 my expectation is that he should be. So yeah, I like it a 418 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,920 little boost short term and we'll see what the Blue Jackets do long term here 419 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:52,519 because I really liked him long term with that Duck's young core coming out, 420 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,200 So for Leo Carlson, I like it better for him. I think that's 421 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,759 a step up for him too, because he's going to be a center for 422 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,880 He's a smarter player than Van Tilly. I think he's gonna mesh well with 423 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,039 some of those really highly skilled players there. In Anahud, Yeah, Michigan's 424 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,160 got a pretty good recent track record of having guys come back for two years 425 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,559 instead of one and done, so they might try and persuade him to stay, 426 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,880 but there is an opportunity for him now in compas. That's a good 427 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000 point, right, Yeah, And you know what's he got left to prove 428 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,960 there? Yeah, totally. So Ruinbacker went fifth to Montreal and Montreal fans 429 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,519 are all up in arms about it. What's his fantasy upside? Cam's? 430 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,240 Is this an example of a really good NHL draft pick and a not great 431 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,759 fantasy pick? I don't even know if I'd say it's a really good NHL 432 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,200 draft pick at five considering who was on the board. Still, yeah, 433 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,000 yeah, not a fantasy player for my money, unless you're in a banger 434 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,880 match league and you're looking for a guy who's gonna block shots and have some 435 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,079 yeah, and have some shots and have some hits, some penalty minutes, 436 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,920 that kind of thing. I don't see a lot of offensive upside there past 437 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,039 the mid thirties. Maybe a forty point season if you're lucky. But it's 438 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Lane Hudson's world, right, He's going to be the one getting all those 439 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,480 fun minutes, and maybe him and Ryan backer become a bear and he can 440 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,960 leave some stuff in five on five off them. That could be a lot 441 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 of fun to watch. But you know I would not be suggesting him highly 442 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,400 rated for fantasy. Yeah, sorry, Minchell fans, you were really high 443 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,200 on Sima Chevs. What's his fantasy upside? Is he a better fantasy or 444 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,640 sorry? I better NHL guy than fantasy guy? Now? Yes, another 445 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,119 very raw. Yeah, he's very raw. I've been lining to Kendre Miller 446 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,559 all year long. Just this big, exceptionally mobile player coming up the blue 447 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,519 line there. He's got great elusiveness, he can make a good first pass, 448 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,720 he jumps into the rush. Doesn't produce a ton of offense, but 449 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,640 neither John Dave when he was a draft out Scholl. So it's like when 450 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,599 maybe the offense comes and you've got yourself a forty forty five point guy on 451 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,559 your second power play. Maybe it doesn't, but you still have an all 452 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,519 world stopper. But again, not a player that I would be recommending too 453 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,240 highly in fantasy DRAMs. Okay, we know that a lot of people in 454 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:52,720 fantasy drafts use the NHL draft list as their draft list for fantasy hockey, 455 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,319 and Matt Van mitchkov goes seventh to the Flyers. If you're doing a fantasy 456 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:03,759 draft that includes just the NHL entradraftffe number two on skill alone, yes, 457 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,079 but if yeah, you know what, yes, he would be my number 458 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,759 two. And I'll be doing the draft guide here for a lead Prospects coming 459 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,400 up later this month then and yes, he will likely be my number two 460 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,519 because in this world they're swinging on upside. There's no sense and leaving something 461 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:19,680 in the chamber off in your own for fantasy. So yeah, i'd probably 462 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,880 have Mischcoff at two. Right on. What's maybe one or two other guys 463 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,559 that you have some thoughts on that where they were drafted moves the needle either 464 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,119 up or down on their fantasy rankings based on the team that they're with. 465 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:37,119 Down, Zach Benson going thirteen to the Buffalo is just ridiculous secret value and 466 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,680 he's Punky gets his stick with his buddy Matt Savoy. But they just graduated 467 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,160 Veturka and Jack Quinn and Owen Power and they're still going to have the top 468 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,160 prospect pool in the league. Now. It's just tough not to crack and 469 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:51,799 no Austlin. But I think that Zach Benson is probably gonna just replace Jeff 470 00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:55,599 Skinner when that contract expires on the top power play in it and just feast 471 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,200 away. So I love that pick for them. I love it for Benson's 472 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,400 value too on the fantasy landscape. So that one jumps out to me. 473 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,720 Oliver more to the Blackhawks with that speed, if he could find a way 474 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,839 to link up with Badard long term, yeah, signed me up for that. 475 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,359 I'm not I'm not the biggest fan of his brain, but he's gotten 476 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,359 such incredible wheels, and he's got good hands, and if the IQ can 477 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000 catch up with the hands and the feet, and he combined himself on a 478 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,119 wing with Badard, then that's going to obviously accelerate his upside in a big 479 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,880 way. Can I ask you about Cairo going twenty three to New York? 480 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,759 Obviously that's a bit of a fall for a guy that had this season he 481 00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,960 did, and we know it was partially due to the other two guys, 482 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400 but also New York has a bit of a four track record of development dating 483 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:40,039 that hurts him long term and what's his short term like fantasy upside? I 484 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,000 hope you have a couple of years there at school, for sure, and 485 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,720 he's sicking with that whole top line I played at the poor around this year. 486 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,839 I love his brain. I love his brain. But he's a smaller 487 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,119 winger with not great feet, and so I ranked him higher than I knew 488 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,359 he would go, And so falling to that spot is about where I projected 489 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,799 him to go. I think it's great for New York because you're taking a 490 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,440 swing on upside of that squat. That's what you want to and that's what 491 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,759 people in fancy are gonna want to do too. But this is a this 492 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,319 is gonna be more of a weight. So I would say, yeah, 493 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:07,240 two years at school anyway, and then he'll start to work his way out. 494 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,279 So you're looking at four or five years before you're really pulling anything tangible 495 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,039 out of him. And fantasy, he's still a top ten fantasy in Victo, 496 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:15,519 Right, I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to really 497 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,599 consider that. I wouldn't say locked in. No, All right, draft 498 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,119 is pretty much wrapping up here. Let's go get a drinking sense. He's 499 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:30,559 sign me up, buddy. That was one of the big hitters at We're 500 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:36,200 going to talk about Adam Fantilly now Columbus Bluejackets pick number three overall in the 501 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,960 draft. He is a Centerman. Victor ranked him number two in his pre 502 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,680 draft rankings. Peter Harling also has rankings. You can probably find them in 503 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,599 that diver guide that we're given away for free and hate to spoil it, 504 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,160 but we want to get his information out there too. He has him ranked 505 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,319 number three overall among all prospects, not just the draftees. So let's hear 506 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,799 from Adam Vantilly. A note this interview was taken pre draft, and so 507 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:07,079 a lot of the talk is, uh, you know, some some whimsical, 508 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,240 but also some talk about Michigan. It we don't yet know whether he's 509 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,240 going to Columbus Arenaheim at this point. So here's Adam Pantilly. When't in 510 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:21,160 Michigan, there's floated roster guys who've got drafted and they're going to play at 511 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,799 the NHL. How does that we've prepared you for your next step in your 512 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:28,319 career. Yeah. All the guys in Michigan are are amazing with with advice 513 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680 and I've I've played a lot of guys that were drafted in the first round 514 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,200 and guys that were were drafted at all. So you're able to see both 515 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:37,119 hides in the spectrum and get good advice from both sides. Agether you guys 516 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,440 that have moved on and alumni are are always amazing with coming back and being 517 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,000 able to talk to them to get their much back. So I think being 518 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,920 able to talk to all those guys that's not prepared to really well. And 519 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,559 then you won three You won Big Ten Championship, a World Junior Championship, 520 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,759 and then the World Championship. What do you take away from those three things, 521 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,759 and what if there's anything from the three that sticks out to you over 522 00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,759 the year. Dude, the amazing guys I got to play when it was 523 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,400 awesome. I've played with so many different so many different guys and so many 524 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,079 different talent levels, and I'm being able to learn from every different type of 525 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:12,599 guy there was. This was awestome. Getting everybody's respective was really really cool. 526 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,920 But I'm also learning the corners of of everybody's job and everybody's depth and 527 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,880 how important today to have everybody doing their side and popula is something that I 528 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,160 really learned deeper in those tournaments about playoffs over the last the first time, 529 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Yeah, what's your impressions? It's amazing and live music everywhere, and you 530 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,319 can't step outside without having a music in your ear on a phone call or 531 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,880 something like that. It's it's amazing. I love the energy here. Say 532 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,319 you say you'll you'll remember it always as the place you got drowned. Absolutely, 533 00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,880 it's this place has been so cool. I love it. Over the 534 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,319 last year, there's been so much written and said about you and contover dar 535 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,119 to ever become over baring, not at all. No, I mean I'm 536 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,559 really close to Connor and I'm really good friends and we wish the best for 537 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,880 each other. And being able to watch what he did this this season was 538 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,960 amazing, so um, he gets everything that who deserves. And then I'm 539 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,200 more I think that, uh, he's gonna be able to have an amazing 540 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,360 season next year wherever he may play, And um, I wish the best 541 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:17,320 for I'm truly you didn't play within the years the last two it was really 542 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,400 really cool. I mean I get to skate with them a little bit in 543 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,159 the off season, and I work out with Maddie quite a bit, and 544 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,079 um, obviously I'm really happy for those guys. And they paved, especially 545 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,400 Owen, paved the way for a lot of young guys in Toronto to be 546 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,159 able to go out to college and have another route towards making it to their 547 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,880 dream spot. So, um, I have a lot of respect for those 548 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,480 guys and I'm super happy that there are both nominees for that. For that 549 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,199 see me amount of time playing because it's funny roles in me, I'm not 550 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,360 surprised, to be honest with you. That's that's always when the type of 551 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,800 player he is, and and he's so skilled, so smart, such a 552 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,159 good skater that um, in my opinion, he can he would be able 553 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,280 to step in and eat those minutes right away. And that's exactly what he 554 00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,119 did. Medio draft. The fact that once the numbers are called names you 555 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,519 go to your team. It's the queer that you have that matters the closet. 556 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,880 M Yeah, exactly. I mean this is this is a starting point. 557 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:08,320 I mean, this is the first step. I mean, we're about 558 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,039 to start climbing the mountain. So hopefully you can find out what city you'll 559 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,159 be able to do that in. Can you talk about your time in the 560 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,480 US and how I contributed to your development. My time in the USHL it 561 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,880 was amazing. I mean, going into Chicago, I didn't really know what 562 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,079 to expect, but I know they had a lot of great guys coming through 563 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,519 there, with Sean Farrell, Coronado, Sama, Scavenge Power, like and 564 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,159 like the list goes on with with guys that were to come out of there, 565 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:34,320 And I was really confident going in there. And they're just a hockey 566 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,519 factory at that spot, and everybody there is a hockey nerd. And it's 567 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,000 just love being around the game and playing in that league, especially it's it's 568 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:44,360 a little bit more of a defensive side, defensive minded league is whole. 569 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,199 Being able to create and learn to put up points in different situations in different 570 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,760 ways was really helpful for me. Take two more for Adam the best Yre 571 00:35:53,199 --> 00:36:00,800 the draft. Thanks got the best year. Um No, definitely not Man 572 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360 Wilson math has got some good hair. He's got a great little call over 573 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,440 thing going on. And I don't know if fifth Avin Bridley still has it 574 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:14,679 or not, but yeah, he had this like Afrolmullet Patrick Mahomes thing going 575 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,440 on last time I saw him, so hopefully he still has it. Tom. 576 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,639 Yeah, I like that interview. Easier to hear the questions than it 577 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,960 was for some another guy we heard about in that last interview, Oliver Moore 578 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,400 one of the guys who's going to come up most often, frankly on these 579 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920 two episodes, or at LEAs gonna come up several times. Victor ranked him 580 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:38,199 number seventeen coming into this draft. He was He ended up being drafted by 581 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:45,679 the Chicago Blackhawks. Lucky Centerman and Peter's rankings overall for all years, that 582 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,320 is, everybody who's currently a prospect in the NHL, he hasn't ranked number 583 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,000 seventeen. Of course, the top of those rankings are sort of dominated by 584 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,519 twenty twenty three draftees. But let's hear from Oliver Moore. This is a 585 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,079 pre draft interview once again. Another one of these things that I like to 586 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,760 hear is people talking about what type of development that they're going to try to 587 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,079 do, what they see as the strengths of their own game, and of 588 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,079 course, as always has to do the new hotness. I used to say 589 00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,519 that compying yourself or compying anybody to Brad marshaw hunt should be banned, and 590 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,119 now I think comparing being compared to a Kachuck in an interview should be banned. 591 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,280 But nonetheless, here's Oliver Moore. For you at the next level. 592 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,239 I mean, how do you see what areas do you think you need to 593 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,800 work on, you know, whether it be a play along the wall or 594 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,239 there any sort of areas that you're really targeting as you take the next step. 595 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,119 I think it's just the one percent in every area. Yeah, I 596 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,280 think obviously, I think I can score more goals in and on the net, 597 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,880 work on my inside game a little bit more, and also just yeah, 598 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,280 just finishing and hockeya kyoto something so working about how long have you visualize 599 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,320 what is going to be like, Yeah, I mean during the season, 600 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,119 it wasn't really something I really thought about that much. Honestly. It was 601 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,320 just kind of in the back of your mind at all times. But after 602 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,679 the season ended and we got a week after winning the eighteen Worlds to think 603 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,159 about what's coming next, and obviously that's the draft and have your sense that 604 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,119 I've just been really excited for it. I think meeting with teams at the 605 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:21,920 combine, it's all kind of becoming real now. So even before of this 606 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,679 past year, I'm assuming as a kid, like your dreams playing pro hockey, 607 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,840 you think about one day that's when you're watching the draft as a kid 608 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,360 one day that's going to be me up there. I can't say I thought 609 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,880 about that, but like now that you look back and think about it, 610 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960 it's like I put the work in for this moment and for it all to 611 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,960 be coming true and all to be happening now, and with my family and 612 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:45,440 with everyone that's coming down here in Nashville. It's it's unbelievable playing for the 613 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,639 US Pro around in the line of Will Smith right later and get to get 614 00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,159 a bit Bay Will get a lot of at thatch, you have laing up, 615 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,239 you're a little bit of the schedule of that big big dropped up three 616 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,480 duns. No, I never felt that way, honestly. I think all 617 00:38:57,519 --> 00:38:59,960 the attention, all the praise that they kind of got from the media, 618 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,119 on outside sources and within our team, it was so well deserved. Like 619 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,159 what they did for our team every every night, and obviously at UATA and 620 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,119 Worlds you saw it they were able to do. It was unbelievable and we 621 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,559 were so happy for those guys and what they were able to accomplish. This 622 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,440 soon when you see some of the specific guys like what what about their game? 623 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:20,159 Wow? As you maybe yeah, I think obviously just being around like 624 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,039 Smitty, Leno and Gabe is like just their hockey IQ being around that in 625 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,159 practice every day and the way they able to use each other. But like 626 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,239 watching like guy like matthew Wood, he used his body so well, Um 627 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:37,719 Contraverdard Obviously his shots ridiculous, We've all seen that. But uh yeah, 628 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,400 and even like Zach Benson, like hockey IQ just a lot of really good 629 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,679 trance from other players. Yeah, get bear and right and letter to get 630 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,880 your brother. You've been laylaying the same team. What can your letter as 631 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,360 a lot of pep player, Yeah, I think Lenny's just so competitive, 632 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,840 so he has that edge to his game too. I think that a lot 633 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,599 of guys don't necessarily have. Is that he can and hit a guy you 634 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:05,880 can enforce and use his body. I think um also just a skill levels 635 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,880 hockey i Q is skating. He's an our own player. Outside of your 636 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,760 speed, what's your greatest assets? I think my compete is my my greatest 637 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,880 asset outside of my speed. Without without that, I don't think I could 638 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,599 use my speed as much, just defensively and also offensively. Thank you, 639 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,760 Oliver. I've been asking all the guys for it's so hard. You've been 640 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,880 spending a lot of time together to play the combine, and now I gotta 641 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,519 know who's bess is. Also, I can tell you something's in you. 642 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:37,519 That's what probably me from what happening around. But did Lenny say that, 643 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,679 Lenny, you're man of the bus there, Yeah, saying we'll soak that 644 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,679 one when he's not the cleanest guy at all. We're real, we've been 645 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,320 roommates all years, so um, it's definitely not as best as I am. 646 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:52,880 I'm working on him, all right. Tell me this, when you 647 00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:55,920 join the National Hockey League, who is the player you're looking forward to playing 648 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,320 against the most? I think I'm looking forward to playing like David obviously. 649 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,039 I think I'll watched him all the time growing up and being on the ice 650 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,360 with him hopefully one day and playing against him or with him. You'd never 651 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,199 know, but um, just slot I would be excited gradually. Thank you, 652 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,199 Oliver. You've probably heard all the comparisons to Dylan Larkin and he played 653 00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:21,199 in the program. Do you have any thoughts on the similarities in your game 654 00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,239 and what differences might be. Yeah, I see a lot of a lot 655 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,519 of similarity with him in my game. I think just see uses a speed 656 00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:30,440 all over the ice and drives the little of the ice really well. I 657 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:35,599 think obviously he can produce offensively, and it's really good defensively as well. 658 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,920 So, um, yeah, here's a guy looked to for for film and 659 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:45,119 to watch. Thank you. Yeah you heard that. Our boy Victor got 660 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:49,719 that last question in And yeah, let's come on, stop with the good 661 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,679 Chuck comps bringing something interesting like in a Dylan Larkin comp. All right, 662 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,719 let's take a break. We'll come right back and get on with the draft 663 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:17,880 coverage. And they're only getting better. Well that was the first part. 664 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,519 We've got much more to come here in the second half of this first of 665 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:29,280 two episodes on Dannie Sheldraft and with Victor and Peter Harling brought home from it. 666 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,440 This is an interview that really didn't fit in because he doesn't come up 667 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,760 a whole lot in the the expert interviews that are going to becoming Quentin Burns 668 00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:45,519 Seattle Blues defenseman pick number seventy four overall sounds like he could be a bash 669 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:52,360 master, and he didn't make rankings either for Peter or Victor. But nonetheless 670 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,000 I think he's worthless, meaning to Quentin Burns of the Saint Louis Blues. 671 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,920 Yeah, the drink comes true. Something I've worked for is my whole life. 672 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,519 And to hear my name call that, that's so special and just have 673 00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:07,400 all my family and friends here to celebrate with them, that's it's an unbelievably 674 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,000 like unbelievable feeling. And uh, yeah, I can't put it into words 675 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:17,760 right now. Yeah, Yeah, I did talk to them on the top 676 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,559 one really well. I mean they have great staff and yeah, it was 677 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:24,599 a super super good talk and yeah, like you never know, like you 678 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,760 said, but I can hear my name called by Desk organization, It's a 679 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,960 dream come true and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. Yeah. I 680 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:39,480 think. I think I'm a two way defenseman that that's very hard and physical 681 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,000 and play against and take care of the defense has owned really well. That's 682 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,400 something I take a lot of pride in. Um, that's something I may 683 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:49,760 keep doing. I play with an edge and that's not gonna stop, and 684 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,679 that's something I always have with me. But with my skating and I do 685 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,400 have a little about offense to my game and I hope I can contribute it 686 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,840 that way as well. Yeah, I felt some unjuries and uh, I 687 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:07,119 think this is a big year for me. Um A lot of um just 688 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:15,079 getting started now, A lot of the um I mean, I know, 689 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,239 I know something like the names like Jake Neighbors, like some of the young 690 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,760 guys like I know Hirrew I played in Noyshell. So yeah, there's some 691 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,159 some pretty big names there. It's a great organization. Was the last couple 692 00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:27,800 of years when we all meant to you to get to this, it's been 693 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,239 unbelievable to wyhel is a world class h world class league. To be able 694 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,280 to mewaite from home. They make it so easy playing in Kingston, one 695 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,920 of the best cities in the wychell I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. 696 00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,440 So grateful to be drafted and play there in the last two years. And 697 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,440 yeah, the young group of peaks, that's maybe give you a chance to 698 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:47,800 really developing exactly. Yeah. They they gave me all the opportunity this year. 699 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,840 Uh, something I felt I've earned. But they've been nothing but great 700 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,880 to me, helping me develop, giving me like lots of opportunity, like 701 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,679 you said, with the young team we have, and super grateful to be 702 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:04,280 playing there, like knowing today was publicly that's been a little bit nerves but 703 00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,400 but really exciting. Just just trying to enjoy the moment. Everyone says how 704 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,920 quick it goes by, and and you just want to try to soak it 705 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,039 all in. So just enjoying the moment and living in the presence a lot 706 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:19,599 of the guys. Bats morning. Yeah, I didn't have too much. 707 00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,800 I won't lie to you. It was a little Mary braking that this morning. 708 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,239 But yeah, I pod either watching the good watching I mean, growing 709 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,920 up in Ottawa, Eric Carlson was, I mean he was an Autowa and 710 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,519 had spectacular time there, so watching him nice to watch him and down to 711 00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:39,000 day and uh, there's so many great defense but I say that that's the 712 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,400 guy I love watching. He's so fun. To launch the next interview, 713 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,599 Victor found brock Otton of McKean's. We're going to talk a little Eastern Cohen, 714 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:54,239 Carson, Rakeoff, Carrie Terrence, Luca Pinelli, and Kolby Barlow. 715 00:45:54,519 --> 00:46:02,159 So here is brock Otton of all right, so we're here with Brockden of 716 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,920 mckeans. How are you doing, brock good good? How are you doing 717 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,880 doing great? Did you enjoy the draft so far? Yeah, I mean 718 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,599 it's always a fun time, right. It's the unpredictable nature of the draft 719 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,320 is what makes it so exciting to cover. Yeah, So let's talk about 720 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,159 some of these guys that'd been based in the OHL. And one of the 721 00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:22,800 first guys I want to ask you about Easton Cohen, who was definitely probably 722 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,920 the surprise pick of the first round Toronto Maple Leaves twenty eighth. Overall, 723 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,960 I know some people were really frustrated to pick surprised, and I know that 724 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,039 you have a little bit of a different take on this and when you tell 725 00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,960 us what the maple Leafs got in this guy. Yeah, Heading into the 726 00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:37,840 draft, I was told that there was a good chance that he might even 727 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,559 sneak into the back half of the first or at least at the top forty, 728 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,920 and that ended up coming to fruition. And he's somebody that improved a 729 00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:50,159 ton over the course of the OHL season. He went from being more of 730 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,000 like a complimentary, high energy guy early on to really gaining confidence and being 731 00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:57,840 a play driver late in the year with London, was one of their better 732 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,280 players in the playoffs. And I think he's somebody that has more upside than 733 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,360 people are giving him credit. For right now, and you have to trust 734 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,199 the London development model and they do a really good job of developing players like 735 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,559 Cowen. I love it. Yeah, definitely made me a little bit more 736 00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,559 interest there than if you would have originally thought or not you but other people 737 00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:22,480 tell me about Seattle's pick. I don't really know much about carson Y. 738 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,159 Yeah, he's a forward and fiftieth overall is he's someone that has some fantasy 739 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,400 upside. Yeah, I really like him. He's definitely got one of the 740 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:37,079 better shots of this OHL draft class. Big boy who consistency is the issue. 741 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,639 I think he's still trying to figure out how to use his size to 742 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,719 be an effective player on off the puck. But when he's on, he's 743 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,400 really good, and most of his production came on the man advantage this year. 744 00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:54,159 I think that improving his play five out five and improving that compete level 745 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,119 to be more consistently dialed in to get to the middle of the ice, 746 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,760 I think that's key for him. But there's definitely a lot of upside. 747 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,639 The athletic tools are very intriguing, very versatile guy. If everything comes together, 748 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,039 I love it. The Ducks have been drafting really well lately. And 749 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,760 they took forward carry Terrence. I don't know much about him, but they 750 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,960 I love their drafts recently. Is he's someone that we should be interested in. 751 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,360 Yeah, he's one of the better skating forwards available from the OHL this 752 00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:24,960 year. Really quick played an Erie this year. They obviously weren't that great, 753 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:30,559 but Terrence was definitely the go to player for them offensively, really good 754 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:32,599 shot, really good two way awareness, can play the wing, can play 755 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,719 center. When he suited up for the US under eighteen team at the World 756 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,559 Under Eighteens this year, he was a lone addition to that team that actually 757 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,239 played. Obviously they did at Hampton Slakinski the goalie, but other than that, 758 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,519 he was the only addition to that group, and he played a more 759 00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,119 of like a supporting role to Oliver More on that US second line. And 760 00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:54,719 I think it really showed that he's a kind of guy that has versatility. 761 00:48:55,199 --> 00:49:00,639 I think that as Erie improves, he's going to really prove as well and 762 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,599 be a primary play driver for that team. And I think that there's definite 763 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,679 middle six upside there And I really like that pick. Tell me about Luca 764 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,000 Pella. His brother, older brother went to LA A couple of years ago. 765 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,159 I think it was a second rounder Luca. Maybe I don't know if 766 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,239 he has more upside or not, but he went in the fourth round on 767 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,480 fourteenth overall the Columbus. How do you like that pick in his upside? 768 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,199 Yeah, that's a great pick for Columbus getting Luca and that range should I 769 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:29,039 definitely thought he would go a little bit higher. Oh maybe it wasn't quite 770 00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:32,320 as high on him as some of the other draft pundits around, but you're 771 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,519 not going to find a harder worker. He's somebody who consistently finds his way 772 00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:45,880 into being involved in all facets of play. Like he is just somebody that 773 00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:50,800 is always around the puck. Really highly intelligent player, already strong in all 774 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,480 three zones. The big thing is just he's not the biggest and he's not 775 00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:58,159 the best skater, So then you ultimately you're asking yourself what does he profile 776 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,960 as at the NHL. He doesn't have his brother Francesco's shot. He's definitely 777 00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,360 more of a lunch Baale type. So ultimately that's why he went as late 778 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,039 as he did, because teams are going to be questioning what the upside is. 779 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,400 But at that range, I think it's a great pick. He's going 780 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,840 to be a really good OHL player, just a matter of whether he's more 781 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,840 than that. I love it well. More quick question, you mentioned this 782 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,159 shot Kropanelli. Who do you think has the best shot in the OHL like 783 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:30,320 currently or we current draftees. It's Kobe Barlow for sure. He can absolutely 784 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,159 right for the puck. He's very deceptive as well. He can shoot from 785 00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:37,840 a standstill. He can shoot movement, score many different ways. He crashes 786 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,559 the NAT he can get the greasy ones, but he can also just hammer 787 00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:44,239 pucks from that sort of half wall spot on the power of play. He 788 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,760 is somebody who has really high end goal scoring potential. I would think that's 789 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,119 no question. It's Barlow. Love it, Thanks so much, and I 790 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,719 hope you get home all right. I know there's a storm brewing right now. 791 00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,960 Oh yeah, it's it's random like crazy here and Nashville for those aren't 792 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:05,960 here, we bring you everything, including retroactive Nashville weather forecasts. Also we 793 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:12,920 bring you Luca Pinelli Columbus Bluejackets. Centerman Victor ranked him number forty seven in 794 00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:17,840 his pre draft prospect rankings is twenty twenty threes. He actually slipped all the 795 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:23,320 way to one fourteen in the draft. It's kind of crazy. And let's 796 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,119 hear from Luca himself, who I also is a guy who comes up. 797 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:31,000 I believe a couple of times across these two episodes, Luca Panelli, Um, 798 00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:35,559 I would say a little bit of Mitch Marner and Bramer Shan kind of 799 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:38,400 the ways where Marners is skilled forward, has high high Hokyaq can find his 800 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,199 teammates and Brymer Shann in the way where he doesn't back down from anyone no 801 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,440 matter his size and and his compete level. Pretty good outlook for the automist 802 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,440 sixty seventheen coming year fourteen. Who guys, those reasons we're excited minds? 803 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,599 Um? I mean, we've had a great young group of guys. Um. 804 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,880 We had a really good season this year with kind of a young hine 805 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,280 up still and a lot of returning players. Um. So I think, 806 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,239 you know, we have a really really good group of guys, and I'm 807 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,559 excited to see what happens now. Look at you're a competitive kid. I've 808 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:12,679 seen you chirp of guys after scoring goals and stuff like that. What do 809 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,239 you think that's gonna do when you get to the NHL level be able to 810 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,039 kind of continue that Brad Marshawn kind of trajectory that you're on. Um. 811 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,239 Yeah, I mean I think I think I can carry that with me. 812 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,320 Um, no matter who I'm playing. Um, I don't really back down 813 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,400 from anyone. So UM, I feel yeah I can. I can definitely 814 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,920 bring that with you. Now, You're obviously in a really good draft class. 815 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,199 But Antilly Brindley, yourself, the comas Bouja Cat seem to make have 816 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,599 been making some good picks. What's it like being part of a draft class 817 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,599 like that? Yeah, I think I think it's great. I mean, 818 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,079 um, you know, to see what they've done. I think they have 819 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,360 really really good group guys, and I'm excited to kind of be a part 820 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,159 of that and see what happens from here. All Right, Luca, we're 821 00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,639 gonna let that slide with the Marshaw and com That's fine. You can do 822 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,159 it, just I can't. Also, I didn't know we had a brother 823 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,559 who already played in an Hill Press Rings. Next we have JD. Burke 824 00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:06,880 of EPU Ring Side. They talk the Nate Daniel sanine that happened in the 825 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:13,599 first ground Daniel Boot Briton Yeager, Gabriel Parout, Zach Benson, Gavin Brindley. 826 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:20,719 Here's j D Burke. All right, we're here with j D Burke, 827 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,320 editor in chief of EP Ringside. How are you doing, j D? 828 00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:27,360 Happy to join the show. It's been a hell of fun two days 829 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,880 in Nashville with the NHL Draft, and I'm exhausted, but I really enjoyed 830 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,920 the process and it's cool getting to hang out with everyone, self included and 831 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,000 happy to talk to you a little bit about what just went down. Yeah, 832 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,280 man, it's been a blast. This is my first draft. How 833 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,519 many have you been at now? This would be so I went in twenty 834 00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,960 seventeen and it's been going since then, so this would be probably my should 835 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,960 know math, I do analytics stuff in my work. This doesn't count. 836 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,119 This would be my sixth I think about that. Yeah, let's go to 837 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:57,559 six. That was right and just gets more fun each time. Awesome. 838 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,199 We love your product. We talk about it all the time. We talk 839 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,559 about all the players on at least prospects, and we love your guys's content. 840 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,039 What I wanted to talk about today is maybe some guys for fantasy that 841 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,400 went a little bit too high or a little bit too low. We know 842 00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:16,320 that guys fantasy gms tend to go by either the NHL draft or maybe they 843 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,280 look at certain guide, So let's start with maybe some guys who went a 844 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,840 little bit too high. I know you mentioned just before we started recording Nate 845 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,320 Danielson ninth that Detroit was one of those guys. Yeah, why do you 846 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,480 think maybe that's a little bit too high. He's just lacking an ambition, 847 00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,400 do you know what I mean? And has projectable size, he has speed, 848 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:37,800 He's shown some playmaking chops, and I think that he's been perhaps I 849 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,360 don't know, his numbers have been understated because of the lack of support and 850 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,880 Brandon right that wasn't the most prolific offensive team. But I don't know if 851 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,239 he has the sense to even stick at center in the NHL level, much 852 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,159 less to be a productive one. Like I see him as someone as bottom 853 00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,599 six working kind of guy on the wing. Maybe he can penally kill second 854 00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:59,880 unit of power play that sort of thing, but not someone that I would 855 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,760 reject to the top of an NHL lineup. And I don't know for me, 856 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,840 that was just maybe ten spots too soon. Certainly not someone who's going 857 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,360 to command power play time based on what you were saying, and that's that's 858 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,679 a ding for fantasy, right, Yeah. Absolutely. One criticism we had 859 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,960 is that he has the one move right, full down the rush, try 860 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,800 to hit the trailer, and he showed some vision in those sequences, but 861 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,480 not consistently right. He needs to develop a more sustainable game offensively, and 862 00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:30,280 I think that will elevate his profile and perhaps Detroit comes out looking pretty smart 863 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,239 for this one. And I'm the one who takes the l but as as 864 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,599 currently constructed, based on what I know at this moment, I'm not subsused 865 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,840 about that pick. So it's just a bit too high for me for sure. 866 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,360 What about Arizona? They went Russian Russian? I really, I think 867 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,239 we talked earlier. We like Simashev, But tell me what you think about 868 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,079 boot. That was probably a little earlier than we expected him. Not me, 869 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,880 not me. I spoke to some people in the industry and the esteem 870 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,719 in which they held them it wasn't a surprise. I thought he could have 871 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,119 gone right around ten. He went at twelve, and yes, size his 872 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,079 hands. I think everyone looks at him and they want to project him as 873 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:07,159 a power forward. I don't know that's his game necessarily based on what I've 874 00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:10,559 seen at present. He's got soft skill is how I would describe him. 875 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,480 And you can build around that. Perhaps you can develop the hard skill tournamentto 876 00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,320 that power forward who can rush down the wing and create offense that way, 877 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,199 go to the net front, that sort of thing. But I don't see 878 00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,760 that as currently constructed. But the skill you cannot deny. And if you 879 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,280 want to bet on upside, that's someone to do it with. And I 880 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,960 think Arizona they seem to covet that and that pick exemplifies that ethos if you 881 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,440 ask me, Yeah, definitely allowed to work with there. What are some 882 00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,719 other guys who you think maybe went a little too soon, that maybe might 883 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,960 be taken too early in their fantasy drafts? Yeah, just looking at the 884 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,320 board right now. And Brandon Yagger is someone that I don't hold in that 885 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:49,519 esteem, not at fourteens overall. I know he had a lot of hype 886 00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:52,159 coming into the season, but I don't know that he matched up to it 887 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,079 with his play. I don't know that he has the feel for the game 888 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:59,760 necessary to be the top six center, much less, even though productive top 889 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,920 six twin but hard skill. He has a lot of that, right, 890 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,440 he can fully opponents, he can rip the pock. We know this about 891 00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:08,519 him. So perhaps he can put up a lot of points at the NHL 892 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:13,840 level, But I don't know that he'll produce strong territorial results. So perhaps 893 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,960 for fantasy he might be perfect, right, but based on what I've seen, 894 00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:19,159 I don't know that he's a play I would have made him that spot. 895 00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:22,880 Yeah, definitely some intertim picks there, what do you think about? 896 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,800 One one that interest me was Minnesota, who I've loved their drafts recently, 897 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960 really like their second pick. Their first pick, though, is maybe a 898 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,360 little controversial with Stramol who coming into the year there was a lot of excitement 899 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,519 about, but he'd seemed like he underperformed a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 900 00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:38,000 I mean if you held this draft with this time last year, he 901 00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,159 goes top ten, right, I think indisputably, he looked at his work 902 00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,360 at the program. He played at the UA teams as a D minus one. 903 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,599 That's a good pedigree, I think, and you saw flashes of intelligence 904 00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,239 at Wisconsin. But he was in a tough situation. If someone doesn't want 905 00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:57,079 to hold this season against him, I almost get that because the system didn't 906 00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:59,920 put them in a position to succeed. That's why they moved on from the 907 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,679 coach. He didn't have a ton of support. A lot was asked too. 908 00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:05,880 They threw him right into the deep end, and I think he held 909 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,840 up defensively. I liked a lot of what I saw from him in that 910 00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:12,559 respect, But I don't know if he has separating offensive tools, do you 911 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,239 know what I mean? So for fantasy, I don't know that you take 912 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,880 him around twenty twenty one. It's too rich for one. Yeah, I 913 00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,400 agree. What about some guys that today maybe went a little later than expect 914 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,760 I didn't have some really good value we of course, the most interesting storyline 915 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,599 coming in was Mitch Coof. He goes to set Philly at seven and like 916 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,440 that franchise defining moment, and they didn't have to do anything. They just 917 00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,000 had to sit still buy time, and he came to them and he can 918 00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:42,760 be game breaking. Perhaps he plays on the wing, but I think he 919 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,039 can play center. I really do. And but even if he stuck on 920 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:49,199 the wing, you have Cell Breini perhaps coming in in the next season. 921 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,800 Based on how this roster is described, I think they took a long term 922 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,639 vision and that was reflected in that pick. And from what I was told 923 00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:58,920 going into this process, they had no issue with taking him in that spot. 924 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,599 And he can at the puck. He's intelligent, he can move well, 925 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:06,199 and he outproduced so well, almost outproduced of Atchkin, but on a 926 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,760 per game rate, beat him with his draft season production. Someone I like 927 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,960 a lot, and I think, you look back on this draft, he 928 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,239 could be the second best player easily him definitely, definitely think that's a high 929 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,679 likelihood. We look back on this and wonder how he fell to seven. 930 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:23,239 What do I want some guys outside the top ten that maybe he fell outside 931 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,639 the top ten that really could could be like maybe a top ten in fantasy. 932 00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:30,519 And I look at Gabe Pero. I'm not huge on his game, 933 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:34,960 but I think with his hockey sense, real boom bus profile, do you 934 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,119 know what I mean? And the feet had him drop all the way to 935 00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:38,599 twenty three, and I get that. I saw that coming. And if 936 00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,280 you look at the way the draft went down, smallest players who didn't have 937 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,119 a lead skating, they felt Zach Benson went to thirteen. We had him 938 00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:50,320 at five at Elite Prospects. It was a trend that was consistent throughout the 939 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,320 whole draft. But his intelligence ability to create plays, he sees really special 940 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,440 in that respect, and if he can get to about average above average with 941 00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:00,440 his feet, he'll produce at the NHL level. It just made. It 942 01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:04,320 may take some time, but that could pay off in a huge way. 943 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,639 Do you worry about him going in New York who hasn't had the best track 944 01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:14,360 record with development with any prospect I think that's being nice. Yeah, I 945 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,079 think we joked once, so we can't can't keep letting them get blue chip 946 01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:21,920 prospects and just history tells us they don't know how to handle it. I 947 01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:25,639 have a few notable exceptions, so I'm curious to see how that plays out. 948 01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:29,159 But so, yeah, that is a good point. Actually, Galants 949 01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:32,000 not around at this point, so maybe that helps out. But the developmental 950 01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:37,239 problems stem way beyond just Galant, right, so yeah, that could be 951 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,440 an issue. Good point. What about one second rounder that maybe Gavin Brindley, 952 01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:45,440 Yeah, your guy, Avin Brindley. Yeah, I sold he didn't 953 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,320 do all of the combines speaking with teams and that he would drop because of 954 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,800 it. That was a lot of the talk coming coming out of Buffalo, 955 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,440 but his sense to his speed, the skill level improved as the season went 956 01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:58,039 on. I know we didn't have a goal until they had the one goal 957 01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,239 until about Christmas, but he took off. You look at his production, 958 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,440 it's commensurate with people like Mattie Mattie Vanier. Spat's the company he keeps in 959 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,639 terms of his offense, and perhaps some of that is inflated by the environment 960 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,760 around him. I got to play with Vantilly on his wing on those second 961 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,920 half, but he took advantage of that and he grew when he became more 962 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,880 creative. He tried to expand the limits of his game as the season went 963 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,079 on, and I really like that from a developmental perspective, someone who wants 964 01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,199 to push the bounds up the game and find new limits. And he did 965 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,599 that, and his floor is really high. I think he could play at 966 01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,599 bottom six just based on what I've seen to this point, and if he 967 01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:37,159 keeps growing, perhaps he exceeds that and moves all the way up to top 968 01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:38,639 six. I could see it. I really could. I just like his 969 01:01:38,719 --> 01:01:44,039 game a lot, and I'm not surprised he fell the profile Buffalo stuff I 970 01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,480 just mentioned in terms of the interviews that he gave. I saw it coming 971 01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:50,840 a bit, but I think Columbus will be pretty happy with that pick. 972 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,760 I love it. Yeah, I hope he grows a couple of inches and 973 01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,599 he could really get to the top of the lineup. That'd be fun to 974 01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,800 say. That would be cool. That'd be cool. I'd feel vindicated. 975 01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:01,320 He would have been fifteen Fighter ranking about fifteen for me. I love it. 976 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,840 Thank you so much, Jadi, thanks for having me. I really 977 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,440 appreciate it. This gives us an excuse to include one of the coolest prospects 978 01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:14,440 one of Victor's bay. I think we can say out of the twenty twenty 979 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:21,239 three draft, Zach Benson, Centerman Buffalo. Peter ranks him number fourteen, 980 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,800 but that's overall. In all of his prospects, Victor Rankton number five in 981 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,320 this draft. He actually went number thirteen. A little behind the scenes, 982 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,719 I did cut down this interview because it was kind of getting out of control 983 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:38,039 because part of it, you're gonna part of it you hear about is that 984 01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:43,360 he went to Buffalo for the Combine and this was before he was drafted. 985 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,559 But he talks about how Savoy and Crabs took him out to dinner and all 986 01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:51,880 his restaurant stuff that much. I mean, okay, I mean that I 987 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,679 wasn't going to leave all that in, but it is kind of hilarious or 988 01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:00,760 maybe kind of telling that the boys up there in Buffalo we're paying such close 989 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:07,239 attention to him former teammate or guy he had connection to in Savoy anyway, 990 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:13,559 and obviously somebody was also writing a feature story that probably it will probably be 991 01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:15,719 in like The Athletic or something about how he grew up in the Carnival. 992 01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:20,000 But I left some of that in. I didn't leave it all in, 993 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,000 but I left some of it into because I love the idea of a guy 994 01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:28,800 like Benson, who we love and also was at one point in his life 995 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:34,400 a Carnival family worker. Here is Zach Benson Senterman at the Buffalo Sabers. 996 01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:37,280 Yeah, you know, everyone wants to go as high as possible, but 997 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,920 you know, I think it's kind of where you fall and how that you 998 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,880 know, how their needs kind of fit fit your style of playing. For 999 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,639 me, I'm I'm worried about kind of after the draft and you know the 1000 01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,760 work I'm gonna do after that, you know, make sure that that pick 1001 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,280 was was the best pick that could have made. So what makes Dora again 1002 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,360 so so less special? Yeah? I think white hockey I Q uh, 1003 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,679 you know, I think I'm smart with you know, obviously they wouldn't be 1004 01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:06,760 here if they weren't a smart hockey player. So but I would definitely go 1005 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,639 with my hockey IQ and my ability to play in every situation. It begins 1006 01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:16,000 to so many points. Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, 1007 01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,760 like I said, my hockey IQ finding the right areas and uh, you 1008 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,119 know, my skill sets, uh, you know, pretty elite. So 1009 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:26,679 uh with saying that, playing with Matthew Savoy and and Connor mcclennan all year, 1010 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,280 it's pretty two elite players. So uh you know, I had a 1011 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,360 plast doing that. And uh, I can't thank those guys enough. True 1012 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:38,519 leaders about the graft process. Yeah, I talked to you know, Savoy 1013 01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:41,559 and Geeks quite a bit. You know, even when I got a couple 1014 01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:44,840 of meetings with with certain teams, I would I would text Geeks or Savoy 1015 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,280 and kind of ask them what it's all about this year, just about the 1016 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,079 way he's able to overcome size and become a comedy player. Yeah, I 1017 01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:57,039 mean, he's an elite player. We've seen it the last uh three years 1018 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,960 with him being in the Western League. He's a special talent, super explosive 1019 01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,480 and uh you know, just you know, keep watch him because he's gonna 1020 01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:06,800 have a heck of an NHL career. In your scouting report, he says 1021 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,000 you like to play you in the Dons, play in the corners a little 1022 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,760 bits. That's something you had to learn. Was or a coach pushing you 1023 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,480 towards end or was that natural? Yeah? I think a smaller guy growing 1024 01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:18,039 up, I think you kind of had to learn how to get to those 1025 01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:21,880 dirty areas and find the rights of us to be in. So I contribute 1026 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,320 a lot of that to just kind of growing up always kind of be on 1027 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,159 the smaller side. What year game do you really want to work on the 1028 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:31,400 group? Yeah, I think my strength is kind of my main area focus 1029 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,280 this summer. Getting more explosive. I think that's two keys for me to 1030 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,039 kind of make that jump to the next level. Heard that you grew up 1031 01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,280 with your grandfather in the summers working on the carnival trail. Yeah, me 1032 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,119 too. Oh really, yeah, exact same thing. How was that for 1033 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,480 you? Yeah, it's super cool. Beat up a little bit, kind 1034 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,599 of rough you up, Honestly, I didn't. I don't know too many 1035 01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:57,440 people that have done that. But yeah, I guess you learn a lot 1036 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,119 about hard work and what he had to go through to kind of start it 1037 01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:08,320 all up. Things. Uh yeah, the shops in Chilliwack, but from 1038 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,199 BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and then they started working their way back and 1039 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,760 then Holster drew actually grow too much year and birth to Yeah, I believe 1040 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:23,880 I was born in Langley, but from all I remember, raised in Chilliwac 1041 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:28,440 and then rock and slide over it for the slopes and the teams, and 1042 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,599 yeah, like I guess winter hockey I played in Chilliwac, and then spring 1043 01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,880 hockey I started, I guess as the years went on, kind of moving 1044 01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:45,119 farther and farther out, making out to the Vancouver area. I grew up 1045 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:53,199 an Oilers fan, Oilers pretty up Roslyn. No, I my mom was 1046 01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:57,159 a Croups fan growing and growing up, But I guess I followed my dad's 1047 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,159 uh my dad's uh, I guess team and started rooting for the Oilers. 1048 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,960 Took you out? That was at the combine. Do you remember where I 1049 01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:12,480 choking or what any of the pointers we gave you? Um? I don't 1050 01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:17,280 remember the restaurant name. Uh, but you know, just honestly listening to 1051 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,119 his conversation, um, and kind of what he was telling me, and 1052 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,159 uh, you know, the players he's met and the people he's met along 1053 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,639 his his journey, it's obviously pretty cool. And um, you know, 1054 01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,960 I definitely soaked in most of the conversation. I feel like they showed a 1055 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,199 lot of interests. And yeah, I mean they showed an interest so obviously 1056 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,880 taking me out to dinner. But was saying that there's so many teams that 1057 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,480 kind of show the you know, same interest or um, so it's it's 1058 01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:48,559 so hard to tell, but uh, it's you know, any team that's 1059 01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:54,519 obviously pretty special. All right, thank you guys. Awesome. One last 1060 01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:00,440 interview in this episode, cheapen Land volked of McKean's little sin control European Love. 1061 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,920 We're going to get some of the guys, I mean, David Ryanbacher 1062 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,360 gets brought up, he's a little bit higher up. We get a couple 1063 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,199 of guys who were a little bit further down the draft board, but especially 1064 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,679 a couple of goalies who were coming from Central Europe, and a couple of 1065 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,199 guys like Kevin Bicker, who sort of dropped down the draft rankings. But 1066 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,359 keep these guys in the back of your mind. Sometimes they're the ones who 1067 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,920 pop out. Wants to get to North America. So Victor talkin to chapin 1068 01:08:28,079 --> 01:08:34,399 Land voked all right, So we are here with chippin Landfucht, who is 1069 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:40,119 McKean's central European scout based out of Germany. How are you doing? Oh, 1070 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:43,039 I'm doing real well. Not the scout. The draft is over. 1071 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,079 Time to review everything. It took place as a bit of a whirlwind second 1072 01:08:47,119 --> 01:08:50,079 day, wasn't it. Yeah it was. It went very quickly in many 1073 01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:55,359 respects. Look pretty much as expected as used to. Yeah. One of 1074 01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,319 the main guys that everyone will know about that I definitely want to ask you 1075 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,640 about is David Reinbacher, and he went probably not a huge surprise that he 1076 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,560 was the first defenseman taken. But what can you tell us a little bit 1077 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,520 about his game and maybe what kind of upside does he have in terms of 1078 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,680 a potential fantasy impact. Yeah, if he does what Montreal obviously hopes he 1079 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,319 may one day do, he'll be able to exhibit some top flight skating forwards 1080 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,600 backwards, all four directions to be quite honest, He's very good at the 1081 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,039 corralling the puck and moving up ice with it. A decent passer, he 1082 01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:29,640 dances on the blue line quite a bit, has a very quick release with 1083 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,239 his shot. He also can read guys who are coming in and take away 1084 01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:35,439 space from them as well. He's not a finished product on the defensive side, 1085 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,159 but who really is at this age? Very exciting in many respects. 1086 01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:44,159 So obviously everyone's talking about some of the biggest things that he had a season 1087 01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:48,079 for the ages as far as young defenseman are concerned, in Switzerland's top league, 1088 01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:51,039 and we didn't see these types of stats coming from a March Strike or 1089 01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:55,640 a Roman Yosi back when they were this age. And he's been in Switzerland 1090 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,560 for a few years. But he is Austrian and that's a little bit more 1091 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,760 exotic, a little more off the path. Even if we've seen players like 1092 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,159 Casper who came through Sweden or Rossi who went through the Yohl in recent years, 1093 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,960 Baffa is a kid to be very excited about. Will he be the 1094 01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:15,159 top defenseman out of this draft? I don't personally think that will be the 1095 01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:17,800 case when all is said and done. I was a little surprised to see 1096 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,560 Montreal be the team to take him. They do have a lot of prospects. 1097 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,239 They've had a lot of picks in recent years, even if their GM 1098 01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:28,520 is currently trading a few here and there. I don't know what the plan 1099 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,239 is ultimately, but there are lots of things that if they to turn out 1100 01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:36,279 all, you can make quite an impact. Do you think that he has 1101 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:42,159 untapped potential offensively like some of these guys that you're a cider that you mentioned 1102 01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:46,319 some of the previous guys like Yosi and Stride who clearly had offensive upside and 1103 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,920 seemed maybe they developed it later they maybe weren't able to show it as early. 1104 01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:54,560 Do you think Ryan Backer has that in him? There is danger that 1105 01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:58,359 he's shown so much at this point you got to ask how much more will 1106 01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:00,960 he be able to show in the years to come? Has he not hit 1107 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,359 a peek at this age but to figure things out at an early stage and 1108 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,479 doesn't have a whole lot more to figure out in that sense, And then 1109 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,640 it'll be a question of who's he ultimately going to be playing with and is 1110 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,000 he gonna find the opportunity to get to plenty power play time at the NHL 1111 01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:18,279 level once he's at that stage, once they deem him to be NHL ready. 1112 01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:23,960 Sure, from a fantasy's outlook, you got to think of him as 1113 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,279 an offensive defenseman, as someone who is going to produce points, maybe the 1114 01:11:27,319 --> 01:11:30,119 type of d man he was putting up ten twelve goals a year, maybe 1115 01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:31,720 thirty five to forty five assists. Let's say those are going to be the 1116 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,520 types of numbers that the fans are gonna want to see out of him in 1117 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,600 the future. And the possibilities are endless. I mean, I mean, 1118 01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:41,600 he could do it. He could one day do it. I'm not gonna 1119 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,760 say I'm gonna put my money on him doing that, but it's definitely the 1120 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,560 forecast. Love it. Thank you much for insight on him. I'm gonna 1121 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,560 ask you about another couple of other Germans that you know really well. You 1122 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:57,279 mentioned that you're a bit surprised that the Detroit Red Wings took Kevin Bicker at 1123 01:11:57,279 --> 01:12:00,960 one forty seven. He's a forward. What can you tell us about He's 1124 01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:03,079 a speedy guy. He can be creative, he likes to be a bit 1125 01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:08,359 flashy. He loves to move down the wing and exert himself in an offensive 1126 01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:13,479 capacity. We saw him last summer at the Linkaretsky Tournament to Germany. Didn't 1127 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,880 score a whole lot. I think they only had five goals the whole tournament, 1128 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,199 but he was part of four of them. And you could just see 1129 01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:20,840 that this is a big kid who wanted to use his size and could move. 1130 01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:25,239 And yeah, he had a very fine junior season, but he only 1131 01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:28,760 played one game in the top of league in Germany this year, had an 1132 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,520 injury in between. Then the UA teens came and yep, he should have 1133 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,279 been the guy who was making the music on that team. He should have 1134 01:12:35,319 --> 01:12:40,800 been one of the offensive players who was making sure that Germany stayed up at 1135 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,439 the top level at the UA teens, especially in a day and age where 1136 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,840 there's no Russia bela Rus either. It's not part of the plan for Germany 1137 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,119 to get relegated. And even though he had four points at the tournament, 1138 01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:57,079 there were just too many times there where he wasn't able to make an impact 1139 01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:01,000 and was perhaps looking like the type of player who didn't have the best decision 1140 01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:04,359 making capabilities. And I was a bit surprised to seem draft. I thought 1141 01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:08,680 teams would wait a year see what he does. He has a DL contract 1142 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,479 with the Pocket. Now it's possible he'll show up there. They have a 1143 01:13:13,039 --> 01:13:15,840 we'll say, a cooperation with the d E L two team that's kind of 1144 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,000 like the farm team in that respect. So he should be getting pro play 1145 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:23,760 next season. Yeah, we'll see how he develops. Gosh, the size 1146 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,479 definitely isn't an issue. He's a kind of good hight. But yeah, 1147 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,800 maybe a little bit early. Interesting on that one. The next guy is 1148 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,119 a goalie and he's His name is Arnold Tiffensen, say one hundred and fifty 1149 01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:41,159 seven to Dallas, And he's interesting primarily because, if I'm reading this correctly, 1150 01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:45,720 he's a triple overager six foot four, two hundred twelve pound goalie, 1151 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,880 German goalie who was playing in Germany there. So what can you tell us 1152 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,239 about him? This is a guy who playing junior hockey. People knew of 1153 01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:57,079 him. He was a bit of a top prospect when he was sixteen seventeen. 1154 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,960 Some of his will say development with curtailed a bit by the whole COVID 1155 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:08,880 situation. He was actually at the WJC where Tim Schutzla and JJ Paturka made 1156 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,319 a lot of music and Stephens did not do very well in nettefense. He 1157 01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:15,319 didn't really have much of a starting gig the last couple of years. He 1158 01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:18,720 played a little minor league hockey and not a whole lot of it. And 1159 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:25,439 then this year the starter in Mannheim and Mannheim got injured and he got his 1160 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,960 shot and he ran with it. He'd looked fantastic at times, very well 1161 01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:33,560 schooled, the very cool, very collective. It didn't seem rattled by goals 1162 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,800 against a lot of time. Some teams had a hard time scoring on him, 1163 01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:40,640 and maybe he'd even let in one early and then he just shut the 1164 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,960 door after that. He showed a lot of mental fortitude. He's a very 1165 01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:46,760 large kid, a big kid, which seems to be all the rage when 1166 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,840 it comes to goaltenders nowadays. Just looked like a kid who was much older 1167 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,520 than he actually as he turned to twenty one not too long ago, and 1168 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,119 I had a little doubt that he'd be drafted because he would even kid the 1169 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,880 number one role going into the playoffs, just about the entire playoffs as the 1170 01:15:03,119 --> 01:15:08,800 number one goalie for a team that continually plays for a championship. Very excited 1171 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,279 about his possibilities moving forward because he looks like a type of player who's You 1172 01:15:13,359 --> 01:15:15,760 want to see what he can do in the next couple of years. Yeah, 1173 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,119 I know that Mannheim system has been doing really well lately. True, 1174 01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:23,840 drys Idol, that was where he came from, not originally, but he 1175 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,159 took spend some time there, and then obviously Tim schutzte and obviously most sider 1176 01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:31,880 I think Kevin Bicker played there this year as well. So there you go, 1177 01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:35,000 all right. So the last guy, seventh round guy, two hundred 1178 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:43,920 and fifth overall Buffalo Savers Norwin Panoka defenseman. He's a left handed d six 1179 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,640 five pounds. That's the extent of my knowledge. Tell us about him. 1180 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,760 Yeah, he's a guy who really arrived on the team this year. In 1181 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,439 the course of the winter, he just kept getting better and better. And 1182 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,880 when you see him play with his peers in Germany, he's at a different 1183 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,840 level. He just understands the game and much more mature manner, plays like 1184 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,640 someone who has a lot more experience than he does. I'm very good with 1185 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,600 the stick, both on the puck and off the puck, very good at 1186 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,359 edging out players, keeping a distance to his opponents, knowing when to go 1187 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,960 in for the kill, so to speak. Great skater, backwards, right, 1188 01:16:15,119 --> 01:16:18,319 left, even forwards as well. I think skating is actually a strong 1189 01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:24,039 suit and a swivel type head. He's looking around, he's sussing things out, 1190 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,720 and he usually finds the people he wants to find and can set them 1191 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,399 up. I thought at the UA teen he looked a little overmotivated in the 1192 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,520 sense that he understood that his team had limitations and he was trying to do 1193 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,359 too much. But he still had a number of great scenes. And I 1194 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,640 think the NHL scouts clearly aware of what type of pressure a team like Germany 1195 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,000 has at a tournament like that, and are able to see what types of 1196 01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:49,359 skills he's got. And I know that his program back in Germany, I 1197 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:54,640 spam been in very excited about him, and that's if he stays there, 1198 01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:00,600 he'll probably be getting some shifts at the top level next years from these guys. 1199 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,600 Is there anyone who you thought, maybe that he saw that maybe went 1200 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,640 a lot later than you expected. It has some pretty good episode, maybe 1201 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:11,640 the second or third round or anyone any names pop in the seventh round we 1202 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,760 saw I think it was Pittsburgh pick up yar Vinty from Finland. I think 1203 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,479 a lot of publications out there had him within their top hundred and twenty players, 1204 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,680 so that seeing him slide all the way down to the seventh round surprised 1205 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,560 me just off the top of my head. I know if I would look 1206 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,479 at the lists and go through it, there would be some guys that Wou'd 1207 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,479 say, yeah, wow, that really surprises me that he didn't go a 1208 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,239 little bit earlier. But I don't think this was the type of year where 1209 01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:39,319 you had a huge dropper, like let's say twenty twenty, Martin Kromiac was 1210 01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:43,079 expected to be about a top forty forty five pick, maybe even a first 1211 01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:45,760 rounder, and he dropped all the way to about the fourth round. I 1212 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,399 don't think we saw someone like that. If we did, it was a 1213 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,720 rolling of the Chicago steel who I believe is head into college next season. 1214 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,680 He'd be the one dropper when I was a bit surprised about seeing him go 1215 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,439 so late. As far as guys being picked in the first round, who 1216 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,600 I didn't think i'd see there, maybe like many others, Easton Callen is 1217 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,600 my biggest surprise in the first round. I'm not actually that surprised about the 1218 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:12,760 young man and went after him too. Lynstein from Sweden He looked excellent at 1219 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,720 the UA teens as a sixteen year old, didn't look that bad this year's 1220 01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,520 either, and defended into the money was on the line in runess this year 1221 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,680 which got relegated, a team that got relegated, and Lynstein I was getting 1222 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,479 more and more ice time, so it was It's pretty clear that the NHL 1223 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,319 people knew what his possibilities are. So I wasn't surprised as he even go 1224 01:18:29,399 --> 01:18:30,359 in the first round, but I think a lot of people might have been. 1225 01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:35,279 Thanks so much for your time. I was awesome and thanks for having 1226 01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:39,119 me. Thank you very much to you as well. 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