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All right, hello everyone, Welcome
once again to the new Now delighted to

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have h well, these two guests
on for the first time, Ryder Lee

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of Raised by Giants, and probably
our viewers are very familiar with Campbell from

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Autodidactic because we've done so many together
today, I figured we'll tackle the topic

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of doing fine at the end of
time. Hello, gentlemen, Hello,

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how's it going well? Rider?
You and I were talking a bit off

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camera about a little bit you You've
interviewed David Dubain a couple of times,

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and Campbell has had him on as
well, and I guess it's a good

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place to start with end of time
scenarios. You know, what's going on,

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what could be going on, and
how to make sure you're doing fine.

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In relation to all of that,
well, I don't really think that

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people understand how finite our society is. You know, literally everything can be

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gone in a matter of minutes.
You know, one flip of the switch,

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Internet goes down, We're screwed.
You know, everything has been digitized.

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Documents have been digitized, records have
been digitized. Money is basically digital

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money. There. We've been working
with digital money for a really long time.

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It's not coming. It's already here, right, banks, books,

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grocery stores, the post office.
And I understand why they did it that

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way, right, It's for efficiency
and getting things done quicker. But the

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problem comes is when your entire system
is built on top of that, right,

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and really nothing is going to last. Nothing really is finite within our

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reality. And if the Internet goes
down, this generation literally has nothing.

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People you know, are thinking that
they're making some form of different it's on

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the Internet, and maybe they are. Maybe we are, we possibly could

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be. But if everything can just
be erased and in one hundred, two

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hundred, three hundred years, no
one would even know that we existed,

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and I think that that is a
very high possibility. And the last twenty

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three years has been about nothing but
the Internet. It's how everyone communicates,

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it's how people get their voice out
there through social media, you create content,

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right, And what a lot of
people's lives revolve around is the Internet.

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And if you take that away,
we have nothing. And I'm willing

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to bet within one hundred to three
hundred years, if the Internet is completely

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wiped, people in the future would
not even know that we exist. All

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of my work has been done on
the internet, my channel, my podcast,

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my documentary. It's all on the
Internet, and it can be taken

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away very easy. And if by
some chance the Internet gets wiped, there

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wouldn't be any physical evidence to prove
any of the work that I've done and

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the work that a lot of other
people have done. And people can say,

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oh, well, make sure everything's
backed up onto a hard drive and

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all that or whatever, and I
do that. But there's this is the

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thing. Who's to say that in
one hundred years time or a two hundred

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years time, or sometime in the
far distant future that people will even be

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able to use USB drives right or
a Type C connector We've seen how fast

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our technology has went. It's used
to be floppy disk. Now no one

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has a floppy disk drive. You
can even use a floppy disk. They're

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completely obsolete. So why do we
believe that in the future USB drives won't

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completely be obsolete as well? So
that means even if someone finds your hard

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drive in the future through all the
rubble in the collapse of society, if

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that is the direction that we're going
to go, they aren't even going to

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be able to figure out a way
to use it, which I think is

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the case for a lot of these
lost civilizations and a lot of these lost

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communities. They were just using a
technology that we have absolutely no idea how

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to figure out because it's so different
than ours. Well, it takes you

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right into your studies Campbell and Ritaria. Yeahisations, yeah, yeah, well

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yeah, all the ancient you know, yeah, buildings that look like they've

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got tam. I was talking about
amentory the other day that you know,

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when we look at that, we
you know, we look at it through

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the eyes of our civilization, right, so we looked at you know,

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the antiquitech and think, oh,
well that was to get power to you

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know, to tap it we can
run machines and things. But that's probably

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not what they were doing. I
think it was probably a lot more energy

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based and based on basically the human
body, right, like like making us

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smar healthy and looking at as our
body as being the ultimate machine and it

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all these other things just aiding it
where and I guess that's the expansive you

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know. I talk a lot about
the nature the nature grid, natural grid

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versus the closed circuit, which is
you know, the l the electronic grid,

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which is what they you know,
which just runs this around in the

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circles, right, and that's what
they want. And yeah, we've got

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to a point where we're completely dependent
on that just I mean, look what

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happened a couple of years ago when
toilet paper disappeared, Right, people went

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crazy? But where did they all
had? They headed to the shops,

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right, because that's where they get
That's the only place they know to get

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stuff. So if you know,
if the supply chain goes down, which

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you know they want us to think
is going to happen, then what happens.

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So you know, the endgame is
we've really you know, we've got

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to take responsibility for everything, right, We've got to be able to respond

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to whatever comes our way. And
that's really the greatest knowledge. It's not

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it's not information, you know that
that's the greatest power. It's the noledge

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of what to do with that,
right, the knowledge of living again,

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which again is what sort of they've
schooled out of us. Right, Like

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even when I was in school,
we still had you know, like homec

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write, home economics and they teach
you to cook and stuff that doesn't exist

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anymore. You know, there's Harvey
Art anymore, there's I mean, we

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know the school system is literally designed
to make us good workers, and that's

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pretty much it. And then and
to get us in the system in this

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around the circles, in this closed
circuit. So to me, I think

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that all the all the answers,
like like nature and all everything else you

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need, right, I mean,
when you think about it, everything we

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have all comes from nature. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that. I

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book marked an article that told grow
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So for anyone listening that wants to
go to nature, grow some mullein plants,

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big fuzzy, comfortable believes that grow
up there and grow very well.

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I remember my dad telling me his
story like that. He said they didn't

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even have toilet paper back in the
forties and fifties, and that would use

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like the paper that the apples came
in. You know, they don't have

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a shape. And I'd say that, so, I mean, even toilet

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papers, it's not that old.
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it on. It's just not the
weak world, you guys. Remember back

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I think it was, there was
an article that I read a really long

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time ago that it was back in
like the early I don't know, forties,

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fifties, sixties, somewhere around in
there, but they were talking it

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was a hoax article, and it
was a hoax newscast that they were talking

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about how spaghetti grows from trees and
if you and if you go to the

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spaghetti farm, you can harvest all
the spaghetti that you wanted. Some people

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actually believed it. See. My
whole thing here is that it's my belief

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that human actions are based upon imagination. And this is something that we were

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kind of talking about last time.
Imagination, belief and faith. It's not

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objective observation. And I'm pretty sure
that the government, the military, and

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politicians know this as well. And
you can pretty much track back anything and

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everything to emotion and fear. And
the question then becomes, how can we

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control human imagination? Can we shape
and mold the world's collective destiny? If

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so, how do we do this? Well, how you do it is

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by making sure that the source of
the control is never identifiable by the public

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right, and then you can effectively
prepare everyone for unavoidable changes, push the

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collective mind in the desirable direction that
you want. And that's why it's important

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that the intelligence agencies the advertising companies
are very interested in mythology and things that

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may or may not be true,
so therefore they can weaponize it. This

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is why we've seen a rise in
the contact the community. We've seen a

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rise in UFOs and ufology, which
is used to play with our imagination,

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which represents experiments in the direction of
weaponized folklore, raising superstition, mental illness,

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and paranoia. It's interesting we say
weaponized folklore, you know, in

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that you know, all the dramas
in North America were based on you know,

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the Old West, the Wild West, which never existed the way they

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share it. And you know,
being in Japan, all the folklore is

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the Samurais, and all the dramas
here, like all the old dramas are

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samuraized. And you know, if
you look Kimball and I have talked about

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the old pictures of the Samurais,
they look like the three of us more

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than Asian people. They look very
white, You're very territarian. So even

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the history that they believe is true
here, you know, it's probably like

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you said, Weaponi's folklore to put
people to sleep. Well, this is

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how our past was. Now we've
evolved, you know, Now this is

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the future used to be the wild
West. You know, even recently,

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I was watching some of the wild
West movies that you know, the old

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ones from fifties, sixties, seventies, you know, came on and it

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obviously it looks like bullshit. You
can see other actors pretending and sitting on

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horses and all that. But when
you're a little little boy, you know,

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I used to go to those shows
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that imagination. They seem so real
to you, you know, you goh,

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my goodness, wouldn't have to be
good to ride a horse and carry

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a gun and to be free on
the range, and you know, to

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all of you know, drink whiskey
and gamble and all these things you used

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to see in those And then you
look back, you know, as an

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adult with a bigger perspective, like
you've mentioned, realizing a lot of this

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stuff is just you know, Hollywood, hollyweird, you know, the holly

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the magic wand of imagination of bringing
stuff that's not real to your face,

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and you know, you start to
see through it, as you said,

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rider, and it allows you to
see like what do you do now?

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You know, like how how do
you become fine? When you realize all

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everything has been passed along. You
know, it's like a hangover from the

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wine the next day and it's all
gone well. And you see that with

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superhero movies. Not is sorry,
cameel, go ahead, you not so

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good? I talked, I talked
for Yeah. I call it the overlay,

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right. It's like this reality that
they try and and lay on top

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of our real reality, and it's
an imagined reality. And that's why they

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have you know, school, the
media songs, you know, all this.

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There's so much effort in going into
giving us ideas and showing us the

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world that they want. Because I
still think it comes back to that.

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You know, those who wish to
rule us aren't creators, right, They

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don't have that creative spark you know
you mentioned before right about the world's run

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off imagination, right, and we
have that, but they don't. So

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they get us to think and to
imagine the future they want, and then

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we create it for them. Right. So this is you know really you

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know, we've heard it from all
the great philosophers. You know, go

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inside, right, the answers are
inside. And I think that that's true.

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We need to start asking ourselves and
contemplating, right, like speading.

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Because the other thing that this,
you know, our circuit does is it

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what's our attention, which is probably
the greatest commodity at the moment, I

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think is attention, right, especially
when you look at those that wish to

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rule us, you know, versus
us and so yeah, that this is

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everything's based on getting our attention,
getting us to believe what they want to

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believe. We go out and create
it. But if we go inside,

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you know, and contemplate and get
that time, which they don't want us

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to have our own thoughts, then
I think we start to get in tune,

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you know, we start to get
answers, you know, have you

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know, unique thoughts again, right, because they're turning the whole world into

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an echo chamber like whatever you believe
or researching. I mean you can see

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it, right, you know if
I like listen to music, like I

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listened to like two songs on YouTube
and then you go back at everything's music

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right after, so you could like
they get messed with it. Whatever you

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look, just surround you with that
because I don't want you, you know,

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expanding. This is what the closed
circuit is, right, It's contraction.

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It's the opposite to nature. So
yeah, I mean, yeah,

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going, I think all the answers
are inside, and that's really going to

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be. You know, the way
out is in, as they say.

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And I think you brought up a
really good point of this currency and time

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and attention, because I think that
I don't think the currency is like the

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paper money. It's not anything physical. I think the most valuable currency is

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time and attention. You know,
you can get money back, you can

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make more money always, you can
get more physical things if you need them

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and you work hard and you do
those things. About what you're never going

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to get back is time. And
I don't think people really realize how valuable

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of a currency time is. And
your attention and where you put the direction

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of your mind into I think that
that is the ultimate currency. Yeah.

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We used to take current affairs in
school, I remember, and it's got

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a whole new definition now. Current
affairs like moving you in a different direction

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in a way that things are going. You used to think it just meant

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news or what's going on. And
you know, even the new sections used

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to have current affairs. I remember
a current affairs section in the newspapers I

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used to read, you know when
I was younger and growing up, so

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it's given it a whole new idea
of the people that want to control us.

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As you say, Campbell, you
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You know, you write down the
current affairs and then that's the way

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the current, the currency, the
world flows. And you know, as

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we've seen, you know, news
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all backwards in this world. They're
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show you what you're going to create
moving forward. You know, it's an

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inverse, backwards world from what I've
seen. Yeah, it's like when I

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was young, we used to have
like the music, you know, the

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top twenty and forty and whatever I
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you know, so it have your
number one song, and back when I

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was young, I used to think, oh, that's the song that has

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sold the most records. But now
I understand that it's not. That's the

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song I want to be number one, So I put it as number one.

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Then everyone goes down and buys the
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same with everything. That's what the
news is very interesting. You know,

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where your attention goes, where things
flow you know, imagination. I'm happy

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you brought that up and the echo
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you know, as Campbell said that
one person's talking about it, one

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hundred people are talking about it.
I mean, even yesterday I was watching

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another channel giving a different version of
what happened to all the Tritarians, you

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know, the inverse of what happened
during you know, the last World Wars,

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and that they killed them all,
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a certain group where the other group
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it was the other side. I
don't need to get into the historical shenanigans.

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It seems to upset a lot of
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fellow had a different perspective on that. That's what they were doing in World

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War two. Besides bombing all of
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you know, down to their knees, they were actually killing off the

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last vestiges of that timeline of that
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you know, to bring us into
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and it's probably what all of the
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know, to shake it up,
to change the timeline to destroy everything,

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and it must be in their idea
a lot easier now as as Riders said,

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you know, they don't have to
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They don't have to destroy a whole
bunch of buildings, you know, they

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don't have to you know, wipe
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you know, false stories all over
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a switch, like you said,
and then suddenly everything that is you know

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You've said, and I've said,
and Kemball have said, is true so

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to speak, and out there in
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is gone. And what an easy
way to wipe things? Know, talking

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about you know, could be the
whole reason why they played with the toilet

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paper and the ship hitting the fan
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to you know, how easy it
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acid civilization and you know, leave
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plants. If we go into a
reset, another reset, then this would

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probably be the easiest reseite that they
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ever happened. I mean, nothing
is built to last, right you buy

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something, it breaks very quickly and
I was talking to David Juvine about this

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too, and you have to buy
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that's consumerism. You know, if
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There's a fantastic documentary made on that
in twenty ten. But the things

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that seem to last are appliances and
tools from decades ago. You know,

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the refrigerators from the sixties and the
seventh these, you know, those are

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still working. I think that that's
going to outlast nuclear war probably if that

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ever happens. Those refrigerators are so
freaking sturdy. Right now, if you

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walk into an antique store to this
very day, all the stuff that's in

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that antique store still works. It's
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It's like cranks and presses, and
they're all built very well. They're

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built to last. Now. I've
asked several people this, not only on

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my show, and I want to
get your guys' thoughts on it, and

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I think it's going to solidify my
point here and everyone. I've even talked

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to people about this in the sauna
at the gym because I like kind of

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picking people's brains and getting what normal, everyday people think. About right,

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And I was like, if you
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hundred years in the future, let's
just say that we all got into a

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time machine right now, I'll win
one hundred years in the future. What

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do you think would be in that
antique store? Would be the same stuff

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that's in it today or the stuff
that's being made today. And everyone that

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I've talked to says, the same
stuff that's in it to this day is

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still going to be in it in
one hundred years. Yeah. Yeah.

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I just look at the buildings,
right, like all these old buildings that

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have been around, you know,
but they just don't seem to wear down

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or break down all the old,
big old world buildings, and you know,

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they throw up buildings today and that
and they're done in ten years.

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I'm housing, you know, I
mean the housing you know in Australia because

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they're just whipping up these little,
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blocks so quick. I used to
do working and putting it, like window

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covers and things like this on housesn't
most of the windows weren't square, you

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know, walls would like they're clearly
not built to last. It's like and

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it is consumerism. But it's also
you know people, you know, we

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don't have the skills, so we
don't take pride in any of this stuff

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anymore, Like we don't really you
know, trades trades people are just you

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know, people who know how to
do what everyone else has done. You

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know where trades people back in the
day, like woodworkers, and that they

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use their imagination as well, right, they weren't just set to a script

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kind of thing. You know,
a mechanic today just works on cars and

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fixes them. He doesn't go out
and build cards or have any creativity in

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there, really, and I think
that's what they've taken, right. And

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you know, as far as the
old stuff, you know, a lot

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of people think, oh, you
know hand pressed, you know, having

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to do things, that's so old
fashioned, that's so antiquated. But you

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know, we've got all these devices
today they do things for us, and

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most people tell you they're bored.
They've got this time. They don't know

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what to do with it, you
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We're healthy, you know, like
so if you ever using your body and

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using these hand crank machines in that
and do things, you're going to start

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healthy and you're not going to be
bored and you're going to get satisfaction.

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So I think we've been sold this
whole you know, massive live light,

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that this technology is going to make
our lives better. But it's fun as

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becoming apparent that it's not. It's
only exact opposite, you know, and

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it's all tied into the grid as
well. You know, it's all tied

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into electricity, right, So all
these modern conveniences are in the L or

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the other l, the you know, the the AC DC or whatever grid.

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And as a writer said, how
hard is it? You know,

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they turn it off. You know, look at all the Tesla drivers that

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were stranded in the winter in the
United States and they could they couldn't charge

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their cars in Chicago or something.
And then it's you know, it used

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to be. You fill up a
car, you know, gas, you

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can go for a full day.
If it broke, you can find the

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wire that was missing, you know, tighten a few screws, you know,

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and blowed some dust out of the
carburetor and then you're good to go.

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You know. I remember looking at
old cars and being able to fix

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them even though I didn't know what
was going on by using some logic of

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how things flowed. Okay, this
is blocked, this hose, you fix

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it, it's gone. There's you
know, a loose. You need a

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new battery. Good, You're good
to go now. You know you look

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at a computer and who's setting these
up? You know what sort of consciousness?

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You know, what sort of life
is working from a from this this

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way of computer technology. Like you
said, that's easy to shut off.

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You know, it seems to me
if we're going to like segue a little

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bit, there could be a little
bit of non human intelligence going on that's

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kind of directing us towards something that
we don't have any control over because we

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don't naturally know how to fix computers, right, you know, we don't

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naturally Like if you look at a
car, you can naturally figure out You

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used to be able to naturally figure
out how it works. You know,

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I talk with a fellow too,
Like if you know, you see wood,

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you burn it. It's like almost
a natural thing, right, It's

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like some heats, you set it
up, you do it. You know,

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one needs to really teach you,
so to speak. It just seems

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like a natural flow how things work. Now you look at a computer,

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I don't see anything natural about that, you know, not not for me

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anyways. You know, it seems
like silicon value or silicon life instead of

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you know, organic life, which
is isn't that what they say, you

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know, a euphemism for that.
Oh, that's just organic, Like it's

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a natural flow of things. Like
you can just figure it out, you

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know. Your intuition is you like, or your imagination, which are or

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should be attached to each other instead
of these other things where you look into

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cell phone you well, how does
that work? I don't know. I

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better buy a new one, you
know. Yeah, man, you crack

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a screen on a cell phone and
you got to go and it's ridiculous.

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Well, also too, it may
be that they make electronics so complicated and

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to where the normal person can't figure
them out, so that they can run

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the monopoly on it, so that
they are the only ones that can create

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it, so that nobody else can
create a cell phone, to create a

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conflicting company to compete with a lot
of these other big companies. Right,

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so they'll be like, oh,
well, we'll just make it as complicated

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as possible. We'll put all these
processors, all these little chips and all

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the stuff, so no one can
really figure out how it works or how

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it run so that they can't duplicate
it, right, I don't know,

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Yeah, I agree, man,
it just keeps us in the dark.

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That's why you know, people keep
saying, you know, why doesn't someone

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create you know, another incidet or
another of this, And it's because you

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know, have you even like,
I don't even know how I would even

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start or content by how to start
doing something like that. And even you

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know, though we kind of imagine
that there's all these you know, really

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smart people out there that are building
all this stuff, I think, you

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know, the truth is it's it's
probably a much smaller group than we think,

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and they're probably all owned, right, But it does seem that there's

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another intelligence out there, right,
I mean, you know, before,

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you know, four years ago,
everyone was saying all the time, and

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how do we advanced so fast?
You know, you've got the meme of

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you know, the first plane flight
in nineteen twelve, and then you know,

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by the nineteen World War One they
had like planes everywhere and vombers and

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then technology it's gone very quickly,
right, So is there something behind me?

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Because now we've got the rise of
AI. You know what exactly is

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AI, because you know, I
think there is an IIG. I don't

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think it's well they're presenting. I
don't think it's chat GTP. I think

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that's an algorithm. But you know, there seems to be something else out

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there. Are this in you know, whatever intelligence or something that that seems

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to be controlling you know, you
know, a percentage about population to basically

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control us. I don't think that
that is out of the realm of possibility.

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But I think the question becomes,
well, if that's the case,

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and that is true, are they
physical or are they not physical? Is

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it a consciousness? Are they in
some sort of physical body? And I

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don't think so. I think that
if that is the case, and there

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is something that is controlling us,
and again I'm not saying that it is

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true, but it would have to
be some sort of consciousness. It would

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have to be some sort of different, uh entity, like a plasma being,

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like a plasma entity or some kind
of consciousness entity that would be able

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to infiltrate into people through consciousness or
be born upon the earth through consciousness.

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So they would put their consciousness into
a shell and then they would you know,

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go on like that. I'd not
in the camp of that there are

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physical entities outside of our realm.
I just don't think that it's possible.

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And if it is, they're not
coming here. They're they're not. We

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just can't physical the physical entity that
is different than us, that lives on

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a different planet can't just come here. We have a different sun, we

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have a different atmosphere, oxygen is
different that theirs is completely different as well.

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There's no way that a physical entity
from outside of our planet can come

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here and walk around. One believe
that that is impossible. Now, what

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they could do again is transfer or
take their consciousness from wherever they are and

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somehow super impose it or transfer it
into a physical shell or avatar, which

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you can get into the you know, the cyborg talk or the clone talk.

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Now, I'm not saying that either
one of those things are real,

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but if they are, that would
be a good reason to create them,

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right, to create a fully animated
cyborg or to create a clone shell of

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someone, so then you can transfer
a consciousness from some entity that is not

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from here into that clone or into
that cyborg entity, and then they can

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walk around here. I heard the
TPS were created to originally, you know,

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to communicate with the spirit world,
with the spirits, and that was

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the original intent when they developed the
TV. You know, however, long

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in the thirties or forties or whatever, it was set up. And if

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imagination is real, you know,
we've talked about that. You know,

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why wouldn't it be possible for a
different kind of life that's not organic,

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you know, the life that's attacking
Coe two, which seems to be the

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case right now, a life which
just seems to be terriforming. I mean,

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if you look at any big city, especially where I am here in

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Japan, or even you know,
New York or whatever, and you look

409
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.359
at it from above, it looks
like a computer chip at this point,

410
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.960
right the grids and the and the
skyscrapers and all of the other things.

411
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.759
So maybe it's a silicon life.
I mean, as you said, writer,

412
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.880
how hard would it be. They've
convinced everyone to walk around with the

413
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.519
cell phone and to look in a
window, and how many people say,

414
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.319
where's this information coming from? You
know, how many people say, oh,

415
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.200
this is the news or this is
the weather, and not so many

416
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.279
people will go to the bottom in
question, Well, where is this centralized

417
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:57.359
information coming from who is figuring this
out? If you've talked to any politician,

418
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.880
and I've talked to a few,
you can look Biden's eyes or anybody's

419
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.559
eyes, or you know, the
guy from Canada, you know that more

420
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.359
on over there. It's pretty obvious
that these guys aren't smart enough, you

421
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.799
know, to be figuring this out
on their own. You know that.

422
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.200
You know, that's that's so obvious, it's ridiculous. So you know,

423
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.640
and it could be those five people
sitting in a big house somewhere, or

424
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.599
you know, it could be you
know, a projection of intelligence from somewhere

425
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.200
else to this particular place. And
I guess that boats The question is what's

426
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.160
going on and why and how where
does that leave us at the end of

427
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.880
time? Yeah, I mean we
have you know, King Solomon, right,

428
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.519
who built a temple with apparently,
you know, with the help of

429
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.599
demons, which are basically schedules,
which are logos, right, which are

430
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:48.839
everywhere today. But the Eveen like
linked up sigils to emojis and to computer

431
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:55.440
chips. And then we have John
Day through to what was his name on

432
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:03.880
summoned Lamb names just disappeared Alistair Crowley
like he, you know, apparently summoned

433
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.279
that that entity called Land that looked
like a gray you know, they tell

434
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.039
us to gray aliens and then you
know, we have all these possessions and

435
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.000
that's so, you know, there
is evidence that there is some kind of

436
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.200
you know, entity intelligence out there
somewhere that it's not us. And I

437
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:23.000
kind of think that, you know, everything's kind of here in this space.

438
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.440
I see things as frequencies, so
you know, there could literally be

439
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:33.160
other you know, realms, let's
say, in having the same space as

440
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.039
us, but they're on a different
frequency because we know that we only see

441
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:41.200
from infrared to ultra violet. And
you may have heard the stories of vietname

442
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.680
where they gave the fighter pilots read
glasses and to help them seeing the dark,

443
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.960
but they ended up seeing demons and
devils and things. There's also glasses

444
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.200
which is the other end of the
spectrum. You got the red and the

445
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.519
where they say you can see auras
and things with them. They've they've obviously

446
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.599
been banned, so you know,
a demiurge and we've got these stories,

447
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.720
so I mean, I think it's
again, yeah, possible, definitely that

448
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:08.920
there's some entity out there that can
influence. I think it can influence and

449
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.759
that's all it can do, you
know. But in the end, I

450
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.200
think people need to give over to
it, right. I don't think it

451
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:21.400
can jump in and kick you out
of your body or something. But you

452
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:22.519
know, we have all the stories, right, you've got to invite the

453
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.799
vampire in, right, like you
know, people sell their soul like they

454
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.759
don't get it stolen, like they
agree, So I think, you know,

455
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.240
and we could just you know,
you've got the devil on one soul

456
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.279
or the angel on the other.
It could even just be self talk,

457
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.640
you know. And maybe we're creating
these I don't know, but there's definitely

458
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.359
some other influence on this world that
we're not pretty to, that that we

459
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:52.440
can't see. Were you thinking of
Edward Kelly, John Dean, Edward Kelly,

460
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.440
Yeah, well yeah, it was
that and they were back, and

461
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.079
they were the first one is ready
to get involved with you know, spells

462
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:06.039
and all that kind of stuff going
on in the grimoise and it probably all

463
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:15.559
comes to Solomon. Yeah. I
think John d was the advisor first.

464
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
they say one of the one of the

465
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.599
channel the channel does girl, sorry, the Channel group of beings called a

466
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.880
Nokians or a no ki spot.
So isn't that interesting, right? You

467
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.079
know one of the first people they
that John Disposey was one of the you

468
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.119
know, uh pseudonyms for you know
Shakespeare too back in the day. I'm

469
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.240
one of the people that you know
did the writing and the first person with

470
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.480
English and yeah, yeah, yeah, so so it makes it really fascinating

471
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.440
to see you know that we're talking
about how I like, how do you

472
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.119
protect yourself? Right? How do
you come back full circle? How are

473
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.359
you doing fine? You know at
this end of time, you know,

474
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.839
you know, they they've talked about
the reset. I remember four years ago

475
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.160
walking on the subway here and just
hearing about it. The resets coming,

476
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.640
you know that they're playing they don't
from these speakers you know, throughout the

477
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.839
system here with you know, millions
of people. And it was really creepy

478
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.400
to me, right that people get
used to hearing computer voices. You know,

479
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.720
even someone will put on a voice
right now, you know, and

480
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.559
you know, you know, please
pay attention, please be polite. You

481
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.920
know, when you go to a
shopping center and like I always go,

482
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.039
why why are people listening to these
disembodied voices. You know, that's what

483
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.039
we're getting trained to and listening.
You know, don't go this way,

484
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.759
you should go this way, or
it's an extra five dollars or you know,

485
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:30.640
take your children home today and you're
going like you know, so many

486
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.039
people have been well trained, you
know, or in trained or ingrained,

487
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.759
you know, for these disembodied voices, which are probably where TV comes from,

488
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.680
radio, all of it, you
know, the original source that even

489
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.960
when I was little, you know, I used to get a lot of

490
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.440
my ideas on how to be alive
from my imagination from the TV. This

491
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.079
is how a man is. This
is what a relationship is. You know.

492
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.200
This is what you want to do
when you get older. This is

493
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:53.519
how you feel sexy, you know, this is how you feel strong.

494
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.960
You know, like you said,
this is the number one song. You

495
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.200
know, go buy that tomorrow.
You know, you want to be with

496
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:00.400
the cool kids. This is These
are the pants you wear, and this

497
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.480
is the haircut you have. And
everyone's being different while they're being the same.

498
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.440
And it's interesting to see how we've
been trained to listen to these disembodied

499
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.440
voices, whether it's from the computer
or the cell phone or even a speaker

500
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.039
in the school. You know,
I go through the schools here and you

501
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.880
hear you know, you used to
get those announcements when you were little,

502
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.639
and you would pay attention to them, you know. Another you know,

503
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.519
so maybe more than just the information
when you're ingrained and you get schooled,

504
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.199
could be even how we are trained, as we take it back to the

505
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.280
beginning of this conversation, how we're
trained to use our imagination. You know,

506
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.199
instead of using it to create something
new, we're using it to recreate

507
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.679
what we're being told, which is
not the best benefit of our well,

508
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:46.599
happy long end, you know,
intelligent life. Yeah, really quickly,

509
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.599
I want to go back just a
few to this John Dean Edward Kelly thing,

510
00:34:53.159 --> 00:35:00.679
because to my knowledge, John Dead
and Edward Kelly h these entities that

511
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:07.679
they were channeling, they required blood
sacrifice for the information and the technology that

512
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.960
they were channeling in. And I
don't know about you guys, but anything

513
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.840
that requires any kind of blood sacrifice
is probably not the best thing to be

514
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:25.000
communicating with. And this is a
really wild connection here. So John Deey

515
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:30.119
ended up in prison, Edward Kelly
ended up in one of the German kingdoms.

516
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:36.280
So all of the information that they
had channeled through these blood offerings,

517
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:42.480
went with Edward Kelly to Germany,
and Germany wasn't called Germany event then it

518
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:47.679
was called Prussia. And during that
time it was just a bunch of different

519
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:53.960
kingdoms. But then if you fast
forward into the mid eighteen hundreds into the

520
00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:00.159
Sonora Aero Club in northern California,
you'll see the case of the airship mystery

521
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:07.719
and who sponsored this. This was
Prussia sponsoring how to create these airship craft,

522
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:15.079
and Germany has had a huge influence. Again it was in Germany then.

523
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.159
It wasn't Germany until a few years
later, but it was Prussia then.

524
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:31.400
It's had this influence around the occult
channeling spirits and all this kind of

525
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:37.239
what people would describe as like Wu
Wu type things. But it's just interesting

526
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.880
because the whole airship mystery of the
mid eighteen hundreds in northern California, they

527
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:52.079
were creating and building what people would
claim to be UFOs nowadays in flying saucers,

528
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.639
but it was human technology. And
if you look back through the newspapers

529
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:01.239
of that time, you'll see that
people are spotting weird, strange things in

530
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.079
the sky. And this was like
decades and decades before the Wright Brothers flew

531
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.480
at Kitty Hawk, So it's just
a really weird connection there. And then

532
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.400
you pass forward a little bit into
World War Two. You see the Glaca

533
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:24.440
bell technology which was supposedly using the
exact same kind of technology that the Scenario

534
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.199
Aero Club was using as well.
They were using a green spinning mercury fuel

535
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:37.519
additive. The Germans during World War
two was using a red spinning mercury fuel

536
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.440
additive which supposedly gave off a lot
of radiation. So it's just thought that

537
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:49.400
that was a very interesting connection there. Walter Bosley has written several books about

538
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.639
the Snori Aero Club, but I
just thought that it was important to mention.

539
00:37:52.880 --> 00:38:00.400
Yeah, yeah, man cigar shaped
remember that one sounds like an asshoe

540
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.440
definite. And of course, you
know with you know, World War two

541
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.599
and missed the Mustache Man. They
were running around the world right looking for

542
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.159
relics and things and connected to the
whole Brill society. So there's a whole,

543
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.360
a whole chain of events. And
then you can take that forward to

544
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.800
those, you know, the top
scientists and rocketeers that were taken across in

545
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.480
Project paper Clip and form NASA and
so now that they're in America, right,

546
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.039
So it's there's definitely a chain of
something of some kind of knowledge or

547
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:35.159
something, you know, and not
not to mention that, you know,

548
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.000
Germany and World War two advance very
quickly, right with its tech. You

549
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:44.400
know, where did all this stuff
really come from? All this rocketry,

550
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.840
all the airship, all the stuff, right, it's and where did Why

551
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:51.760
were they chasing relics? Was that
something they were told to do? I

552
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:57.719
mean, it seems very unlikely that
someone who got to the point of ruling

553
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.079
a country, if it happens the
way we're told, would then become so

554
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.800
obsessed with some ancient story of some
magical relic that they put all the funds

555
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.480
of the countries are running and looking
for these things. All right. It's

556
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.960
so there's obviously some more knowledge there, but hate that whoever it was knew

557
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:22.760
that these relics were real and actually
did have power some you know. Yeah,

558
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.400
and you're talking about Project paper Clip
there. That's a very interesting one

559
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:35.079
of people really tend to look over
the fact that Russia officially got more paper

560
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.519
clip Germans than the United States.
I didn't know that, No, I

561
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:45.280
didn't know that either. Interesting the
Russians version of Project paper Clip brought twenty

562
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:52.079
five hundred former German scientists and specialists
were relocated to the Soviet Union, along

563
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:59.480
with four thousand family members were relocated
as well, So that tolls about sixty

564
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:06.280
five h hundred Germans relocated to Russia
after World War Two officially and officially the

565
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:15.079
United States got sixteen hundred. Now
that number can be fictitious. It's supposedly

566
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:22.199
unofficially closer to the range of ten
thousand, but again that's an official official

567
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:28.719
documentation the sixteen hundred community the US. So Russia actually got quadruple the amount

568
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:36.519
of German scientists, and they did
it in one large like lump replacement.

569
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:44.079
Right. The United States did it
over a period of I believe like six

570
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.960
to seven years, maybe even longer, but Russia just did it all at

571
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.760
one time, all in one lump. So and I'm pretty sure that they

572
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:57.400
got them first, so that means
well, they had the first pick.

573
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:05.599
So the United States kind of got
the leftovers and the people that maybe you

574
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:12.480
weren't the best at what they were
doing, and Russia got all the people

575
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.800
first. Witch then you know,
begs the question of the Cold War,

576
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.800
and like what's going on in there? Why did we do that? You

577
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.519
know, it was because our Germans
were at odds with each with each other's

578
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.760
Germans, like I don't know.
And then the blood sacrifices, right,

579
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.800
wasn't Stalin after that? So they
starved millions of people and killed millions of

580
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.320
their own population. The United States
as well, has been at war for

581
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.039
you know, hundreds of years NonStop. I've heard, you know, one

582
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.599
after the next, one after the
next. So if they're using blood sacrifices

583
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.360
to power what you guys just mentioned, you know, in the project paper

584
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.599
Clips or whatever they were call going
to Russia, it seemed to me that's

585
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.920
still going on. You know,
they're looking for those vampires and non non

586
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.280
ending supply of human sacrificing right into
what they're doing, you know, recently

587
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.880
in different parts of the world supposedly
you know today you know, more blood

588
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:02.960
sacrifice, more bringing about you know, pain and suffering, more, more

589
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.360
child sacrifice, no doubt about that
too, you know, And then that

590
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.360
brings about, you know, the
uh, the idea of how they're powering

591
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.199
what you've mentioned, these these crafts
that they're building. You know, maybe

592
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.159
it's not a physical thing that they're
looking into building, you know, beyond

593
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.360
the cigar shapes of the bell shapes. Maybe it's more of a something as

594
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.599
you mentioned mercury, which if you
look at the old alchemists they talk about

595
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.760
you know, there was a special
kind of mercury they used to do in

596
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.320
the goal transformation. Right, it
wasn't to transform led to gold. That

597
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:35.199
was the transformation of humanity or the
human energy towards something of a higher level.

598
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.119
Whonder if it's all tied together,
yeah, it makes it interesting.

599
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:45.199
It's the only level that that liquid
but that amalgams that basically we'll just joined

600
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:51.280
it in not a matter just developed
so nice. But I mean I think

601
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:53.519
you know, the thing is like
this this. I mean, there's so

602
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:58.639
much information come out in the last
four years since everyone's you know, being

603
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.559
wiping up and all this kind of
stuf up, and I think that's on

604
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.480
purpose, right to confuse this and
again it's your cant thing. So everyone

605
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.880
was looking here is this right?
Is this right? Or listen to that

606
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.119
person. It's that person a shield. And you know, I always say

607
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.079
it's eighty twenty or right in the
truth. If there's some lives in every

608
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.159
life, there's some truth. But
you know, I think the way out

609
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.280
zimmer like, Like we can spend
our lives, you know, trying to

610
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:28.199
work out what outside of us is
correct and true, or we could spend

611
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.199
that time working out what inside of
us is correct and true. And I

612
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.599
think that's probably more important, right, because once you know who you are,

613
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.440
then you can really start to do
things, do things differently that are

614
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.159
that are yours, right, I
think. I mean, one of our

615
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.679
biggest problems is people are just copying
each other. Right, There's no new

616
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.880
new stuff coming out, and you
see it on you know, YouTube and

617
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.719
all these platforms. People someone gets
an idea and everyone just copies it.

618
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:59.920
It's just it's crazy. So,
you know, I think that the way

619
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:06.239
to go forward is really to go
inside. But to understand that you know,

620
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.440
it's you, right, You're really
the only person you can rely on.

621
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.679
You're really the only person who knows
what you're thinking, and you've got

622
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.719
everything you need. You know,
we're taught that we need all this stuff

623
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.559
from outside, and we need other
people, and we need all this support

624
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.320
and all this blah blah blah blah. Right, run with the herd.

625
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.519
But I think the most powerful people
and the people who affect you know,

626
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.960
this place the most are the ones
who know who they are, and they

627
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.559
shure of who they are and what
they want to do, and so they

628
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.000
just do it that. They don't
waste time looking for people to come with

629
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.199
them or to support them more for
this or for that. They just start

630
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.239
walking. And I think once you
start doing that, then everything that you

631
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.119
need tends to come to you right
where we are taught to do it the

632
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.599
other way around. Get everything we
need first, and then then I can

633
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:01.239
start you know. So yeah,
I think that's the way forward is really

634
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:06.320
too you know, they've just date
date powder so much. You know,

635
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.079
the average person doesn't really think that
they're worth much, doesn't think they can

636
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:14.559
do much to change, you know, anything. But that's to me,

637
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.679
that's the biggest one of all.
What way are the powers? As far

638
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.880
as I'm concerned? And we just
made a tack it back as they say,

639
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:28.159
right you know. Even Writer mentioned
in our last chat, which is

640
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.440
very interesting, how you know he
went through his own challenges and you have

641
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.239
to face them a thousand times until
you change, which is very inspirational.

642
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.920
And a lot of people will try
once or twice to do something new and

643
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.400
then give up when it doesn't work. And you know, we've all seen

644
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.119
that sometimes. You know, how
many times did you have to try something?

645
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.519
You when you were a little boy, before you learned how to walk,

646
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.599
before you learned how to do well
in talking to ladies, before you

647
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.840
learned, you know, how to
dress or dance. I mean probably instinctively,

648
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.280
you practiced a thousand times before you
learned the new skill. Like how

649
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.119
much baseball practice do these guys do
before they can hit a home run in

650
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.280
the major leagues? It's like twenty
years practice every day, eight hours a

651
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.239
day before they finally figure it out. And in the modern age, you

652
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.159
know, as you've said, where
people are getting used to instant gratification,

653
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:13.119
they go, I tried that twice, didn't work. Next where if you

654
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.840
really consider the deeper aspects of how
you learn, you know, maybe you

655
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.519
have to do something for ten years, you know, before you become an

656
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.840
expert at it, you know,
a thousand times before you figure it out.

657
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.079
Now, maybe that's how you know, as Chemica said, you do

658
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.679
find at the end of time is
figure out what you need to do and

659
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.119
don't give up if it doesn't work
the first second or one hundredth time.

660
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.320
That's very important because everyone learns in
a different kind of way, and I

661
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.199
think that that has been the problem
with the school systems. I know we

662
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.840
talked a little bit about the school
systems on our previous show, but they

663
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.320
want to blanket everybody with the same
kind of learning curriculum, right when that's

664
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.480
not how everyone learns. So therefore
you get people that don't learn that way

665
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.039
and they can't get a hold of
it. See. I've always learned from

666
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:06.519
repetition and watching other people kind of
do things. And if I can watch

667
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.519
someone do something a few times in
a row, then I can mostly do

668
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:15.159
it. That's how I played musical
instruments growing up, was by memory,

669
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.679
by muscle memory. I watched someone
play something, then I would be able

670
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.360
to play it. You know,
and other people learn in different ways.

671
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.880
A lot of some people learn by
like studying things and reading books, and

672
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.639
which you know, I read as
well. But I think that we've gotten

673
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.280
to a point within our society that
we've just tried to take the We've been

674
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:44.760
led to believe that the same type
of learning process works for everyone when it

675
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:51.239
doesn't, and no one has that
individuality like a teacher, or I mean

676
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.880
even in college. It goes all
the way up into college. They don't

677
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.000
really take that one or two or
a handful of people aside and be like,

678
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:04.039
hey, here's another way that you
can figure this stuff out. And

679
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:09.639
when people they whenever, especially children, they'll think that they're dumb or they'll

680
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:15.239
think that they're not smart. They'll
think that they're stupid because they can't learn

681
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.480
the same way that other people learn, and they think, well, why

682
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.039
am I not understanding this? Why
am I not getting this? What's because

683
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.840
the curriculum and the way that it's
being taught to you isn't the way that

684
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:31.840
you comprehend things. And that's been
I think a huge downfall of our society

685
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:37.039
as a whole is there's not any
individualism to the school system, to the

686
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:44.320
colleges, and to education. It's
just all blanketed with the exact same rules,

687
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:52.800
the exact same curriculum, and there's
no individuality to it. Autodidactic per

688
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:59.119
ucation. I'm in with maths,
like when I was in school that they'd

689
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.599
even make you do like show your
working out, and the working out had

690
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.119
to be a certain way, and
my brain didn't work that way. And

691
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.280
I'd always do it a different way, and my way was much quicker,

692
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.559
by the way, much much less
steps than that, and I'd always get

693
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.079
the right answer, but I'd always
get marked down because I hadn't done the

694
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.079
working out there. But I refused
to. I was just like, well,

695
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.320
that's dune. I don't understand it. But this is the thing most

696
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.039
people get sort of hamlet and think, oh it's me, I'm the stupid

697
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.480
one. Where I guess I was
lucky and arrogant enough to think that the

698
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:37.599
teachers was too right, so I
just kept going. But it's you know,

699
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:42.800
this is the thing they just want
to control, just control our thought

700
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.280
process, so you know, the
further you can get away from that.

701
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.079
And you know, I used to
think a lot about this concept of you

702
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.519
know, natural thought or original thought
and the fact that we just don't have

703
00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.880
it. It's very very rare,
right, even even in your own mind,

704
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.159
to have original thoughts. So most
of the stuff it's playbacks of other

705
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.679
stuff or other people's opinions. So
you know, just focusing on that,

706
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.719
like like, what what's what?
What's my thought? You know, what

707
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.000
am I thinking? What's my message? Just you know, in whichever way

708
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.039
right, meditation, you know,
and meditation can be anything. It can

709
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.880
be gardening, it can be working
on a car, right, And then

710
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.280
suddenly you get to oh, that's
what that's how to fix it, you

711
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.480
know. But when you we're training
so much to just repeat, repeat,

712
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.000
repeat right school again, you know, the teacher stands up there, it

713
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:38.360
gives you information, and you're only
smart if you can repeat back you can

714
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:45.920
think of a different ye. So
yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's

715
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.079
that's that's a change. We've got
a break, right, you know.

716
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.000
I've said one of my favorite sayings
is the statue is not not finished when

717
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.119
there's nothing more to add. It's
finished when there's nothing more to take away.

718
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.840
And I think that's what happens to
us. We get all put on

719
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.400
us, and then it's the double
of us stripping away and knowing what to

720
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.559
get rid of, and then we
get life with ourselves and then we can

721
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.559
start to think clearly. Again.
Yeah, I agree with that, And

722
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.880
you're very lucky and several of us
are very lucky within school that we just

723
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.320
we doubled down on our own thought
process and we were like, hey,

724
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.840
this is the way that works for
me, and we didn't get dissuaded by

725
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:32.960
teachers and people telling us the way
that they think we should be doing stuff.

726
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.639
And I think that that's a very
important thing because I don't believe that

727
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:45.239
a lot of people can do that, and it's very unfortunate that it's that

728
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:51.599
way. And when you look at
because I've known several people throughout my life

729
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:58.159
that got involved in, you know, drugs and became major alcoholics because they

730
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.599
were just different than every one else. They can find their home of people,

731
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.239
they can find the group of people, so then they just turn to

732
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:10.000
drugs and alcohol to fill that void
within themselves, you know, and not

733
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:16.880
really realizing that this is a lonely
journey. This is a lonely ass journey,

734
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:23.840
and you really have no one other
than yourself, you know. And

735
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:29.039
it's it's good to do these types
of shows and be with other people and

736
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:35.480
stuff, but I think finding that
and realizing and taking responsibility for your actions

737
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:39.679
and your decisions, you have no
one but yourself. You are your own

738
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:46.840
individual. You got to swim through
this life alone, basically, and realizing

739
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:55.760
that and paving your own way and
the dedication and the responsibility and the persistence

740
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.719
is very important. It's like you
were just mentioning earlier. Some people they

741
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.599
just do something a few times and
then they're like, oh, well,

742
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.079
it wasn't successful, it wasn't good. You got to just keep hammering away

743
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:14.000
at that thing and chipping away at
it, and eventually that will pay off.

744
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.599
And it it's probably not going to
be tomorrow. It's probably not going

745
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:21.639
to be next week, next month, next year, maybe ten years down

746
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:27.079
the road. But thinking about it
is is people really aren't successful in that

747
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:32.639
avenue until they're in their mid thirties
or even into their forties. They really

748
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:38.440
don't start getting that's if they've stayed
on that track and you know, broke

749
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.719
away from what other people want them
to do and they're trying to go down

750
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.960
their own path. Because normally your
parents are like, why do you want

751
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.960
to do that? Don't do that, don't be a filmmaker, don't do

752
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.400
all that, because that's not going
to pay the bills, right, But

753
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:57.480
they want that instant gratification, and
that's what a lot of this society has

754
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.960
been built upon, has been instant
gratificing. Right. We want the newest

755
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.159
thing, the quickest thing, the
easiest thing to get us from point A

756
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.360
to point b when the long road, this is what I'm calling in now,

757
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.440
the wrong The long road is way
more fulfilling. Now the long road

758
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.519
does take more work and time and
effort, but in the end you're going

759
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.079
to reap more rewards. You know
it isn't it wonderful that we probably don't

760
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.880
need anyone else? I mean,
that's the beauty of it. I would

761
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:30.480
say, you're born with everything you
need to get along. You know,

762
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:34.320
you're being taught from the time you
were little that you need as Campbell said,

763
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:35.920
you need this, you need that, you need the other thing.

764
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.760
You need money, you need a
relationship. You know, you need a

765
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:42.239
blender, you know whatever. And
you know, to come full circle and

766
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.559
figure out you don't need nothing.
Right, you're breathe in, You're alive.

767
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:45.880
You know, one step in front
of the other, you can figure

768
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:50.280
it out. And if no one's
with you, well that's wonderful. You

769
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.960
know. The Toll text that I
remember reading a book which stuck with me

770
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.159
to this day, that he makes
loneliness his art, and I thought it

771
00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:59.280
was a beautiful, beautiful way of
putting it. You know, to make

772
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.599
loneliness you're art and to create what
you need to do if you find yourself

773
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.760
alone, you know, make art
with your loneliness and see what you can

774
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.280
do from there. And then,
you know, since this chat is about

775
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.679
how we do find at the end
of time, maybe that's how you do

776
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.440
it. You have to be okay
with being alone. You have to be

777
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.159
okay with being autodidactic. You have
to be okay with failing one hundred times

778
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:21.360
before you succeeded one hundred and tenth. Maybe we're holographic learners. I'm thinking

779
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.199
as well. Like Campbell said,
I had the same experience. I would

780
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.599
never show more work, and I
got into arguments with my math teachers.

781
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.480
I said, you're an idiot.
I don't have to show my work.

782
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.280
I got the right answer. That's
you know, because maybe you're being trained

783
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:35.719
to think instead of use your intuition. I would say that's what schooling really

784
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.159
does. It beats your intuition out
of you. Because if you can come

785
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.800
up with the answer, what are
you using? Who cares? Right?

786
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:44.480
You know, it doesn't matter.
But I don't think they're after the answers.

787
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.800
They're not. They're after you know, good little slaves. To listen.

788
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.480
Show your work means you've got to
do it the same way as everyone

789
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.480
else. Like writer said, so
this is the only way you get full

790
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.880
grades. You know, this is
the only way you get that a gold

791
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:59.199
star. This is the only way
you get that job. There's no other

792
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:04.280
way. This is it. And
you know perhaps that is what leads you

793
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.719
know, as I cut the end
of that writer, you know, the

794
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.719
alcoholism and the drugs and what did
the indulgence or whatever, because you know

795
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:14.880
you think there's the only way and
you're not fitting in, and so what

796
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.079
do you do? Well, you
know, try and make yourself feel better

797
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:21.000
any way you can. Man,
they give us all the options, so

798
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:25.400
you don't know, whatever you want
you can get it, but you know

799
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.000
if it's a ntural herve and you
probably can't. But yeah, mistakes,

800
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.480
right everything every you know, take
one, take too. This is what

801
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:37.719
people think it's a mistake, but
it's not. It's just a mistake,

802
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:39.440
right, So you just take take
two, take a hundred, just keep

803
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:44.880
going until you until you get there. But this I think is also from

804
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.360
people don't believe in themselves. I
don't think they've they've got what it takes,

805
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:52.039
and and subconsciously they're telling themselves,
I'm going to fail. I can't

806
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.599
do this, but in the conscious
mind they're like, oh, I'm going

807
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:57.760
to do it. I'll give it
a go. But of course the subconscious

808
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.599
wins and like two or three times, and I can see it hours writing.

809
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.400
You know, it wouldn't work.
And of course, you know,

810
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.480
it's all starting to do with the
subconscious, which is what they work on

811
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:12.119
programers. But I mean, I've
just personally, I've just over the last

812
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.599
you know, kind of week or
so really sort of come to terms with

813
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.840
that that it is only you,
right, it is. It'd be great

814
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.039
to have help, and it'd be
great to have this, and it'd be

815
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.199
great to have that. But the
thing is, you know, we can't

816
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.480
change other people. We can influence
them, but we can't you know,

817
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.320
we can't make people come along and
want our dream or want our goals.

818
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:36.239
But like I said before, if
we have the courage to walk and to

819
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.760
keep going in that direction and to
believe in it, then the people we

820
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:43.559
need tend to show up anyway.
Right. But you know, just in

821
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.199
my life, I still was thinking, you know, I want to get

822
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.639
this done, you know, and
I'd be thinking I need this person,

823
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.079
this person could help really, but
you know that's all really got to go

824
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.639
out the Winnow, it's got to
be you. What can you do because

825
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.159
that's really the only thing you can
affect. You know, if you think

826
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.079
it can affect other people and all
this, you're really kidding yourself. Well,

827
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.239
affect them, but you can't tell
and make people do anything you It

828
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.280
just can't that for yourself. And
to trust yourself, you know, to

829
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.000
learn how to trust yourself. I
would say that's a key one that they

830
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.159
don't teach you in school. To
trust your guts, to trust your intuition,

831
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:21.960
to trust your heart. No matter
what you know, if there's a

832
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.480
creator, wh would the creator make
a mistake in making you right? No

833
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.199
matter how different or weird or strange
you are. You know you're you know

834
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.360
you're wonderful, You're full of wonder
You should be different, and the challenge

835
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:35.079
is in trusting that difference so that
you can be the best you. There's

836
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.639
a bazillion flowers. I don't want
to look at the same flower every day.

837
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:38.360
You know, when I go out
and I see you one, that's

838
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.079
what catches my eye. You know, when I'm walking down the street and

839
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.039
it happens to me. Here a
lot you know, since some of the

840
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:45.400
new part of the world for myself. I see a you bird or and

841
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.199
you plant, or hearing you sound, which I do. That's what catch,

842
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.760
That's what I'm interested in exploring.
Right, go oh, I didn't

843
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:54.400
see that flower before. I haven't
seen that before. What's that you know?

844
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.800
What's that bird sound? I'm sure
I haven't heard that. And that's

845
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.840
what draws my imagination and my attention
and my awareness towards something wonderful. So

846
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:06.800
if people put that in their heart
and realize it's amazing to be different.

847
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.199
It's fantastic to have a different smell
and a different look, and a different

848
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.639
idea and a different notion and in
the different ways or a different dance or

849
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.920
to make different food, whatever,
because that's really what the world is after,

850
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.760
is you know, this expansion of
difference, you know, not the

851
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.320
contraction where we're all one, you
know that, which is one of those

852
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.880
means which I know is a lot
of bullshit that gets passed along by the

853
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.280
new age. We're all one.
No, we're not. I mean,

854
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:30.920
we're all here, but we're not
all one. You know, We're all

855
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:38.559
different, which is really interesting.
There's this contact that really no one knows

856
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:46.159
about. His name is Samuel Eden
Thompson, and he apparently met extraterrest trials

857
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:54.360
in Washington in nineteen fifty and his
entire story was really overshadowed by Kenneth Arnold

858
00:59:54.519 --> 01:00:02.039
and Betty and Barney Hill later on, but it's a very interesting story.

859
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:08.119
And he was apparently driving his vehicle
in Washington. He came across this craft.

860
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.480
There was a ramp. He walked
up to the ramp. These beings

861
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:17.800
came out. There was apparently twenty
five different beings. There's like fifteen kids,

862
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:23.960
and they were supposed He said that
they were from Venus, that they

863
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:29.920
were Venetians, and they gave him
all of this information. And I think

864
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.599
that the most interesting. And I'm
not saying any of it's real, and

865
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.199
I don't necessarily believe in that,
but I take it as information and a

866
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.360
part of a historical record, so
I think it's important to talk about.

867
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.159
So one of the most interesting things
that they told him, they said,

868
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:52.239
the problem with Earth is that all
of the people of Earth are born under

869
01:00:52.559 --> 01:01:00.800
different astrological science. They're all born
under different stars, born under different planets.

870
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:08.960
But the people on Venus are all
born under the exact same astrological science,

871
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:15.760
so they're like a hive mind.
And then see, I don't take

872
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:20.159
that as a negative thing. I
don't think that it's a negative thing that

873
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.639
we're all born under a different astrological
sense. But you can get into astrology

874
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:29.639
and all that and see that the
stars really do make a difference in our

875
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:34.800
life. If you get a really
really good astrological reading, that person can

876
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.760
literally tell you everything that's happened to
you in your life and tell you what

877
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:43.559
may happen to you in the future. So it really does. Astrology really

878
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.679
does make a difference in cultivating and
creating our personality and the way that we

879
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.360
live in the events that may or
may not happen in the future. But

880
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:54.440
I don't take that as like a
bad thing because I think that that's what

881
01:01:54.599 --> 01:02:00.159
makes us special here is that we
all are different. We all are born

882
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:07.159
under different astrological signs. No one
is born under the exact same astrological science

883
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:13.480
at any given time, and that
makes us very very special here. And

884
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.920
and some people would be like,
oh, well, I want the utopian

885
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:22.079
type of type of hive mind where
everyone gets along and everyone's peaceful. Well

886
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:28.519
that's the freaking New world. Order
given. Yeah, that is what the

887
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.800
new world order is. And these
people don't realize that that is actually what

888
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.440
they're fighting for. That's really what
they want. They think that they're against

889
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.360
it, but they're really for it. If they want everything to be peace

890
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:46.400
and everything to be harmony in this
golden age, that is a dictatorship.

891
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:53.079
That's not this freedom that people think
that it is. So I mean,

892
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:59.159
frem and it got people you know, think about or lock about. It

893
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:04.360
is them is letting everyone else befraid
right to beg hear they want to pay

894
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.400
paople do want that part afraid?
It's one to be afraid of and everyone

895
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.519
else should do it, I tell
but but yeah, ultimate afraid of me

896
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.519
is but we're all at what we
wanted to obviously, you know, do

897
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:19.320
not harm. But apart from that, you know, let people leave Roan.

898
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.599
I think an adult is usually an
adult enough to allow others to do

899
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.199
what they need to do, to
stand back even if you don't agree with

900
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:29.800
them, and to allow them to
you know, fulfill the process they need.

901
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:30.840
Because you know, writer made a
good point. You don't know what

902
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.679
another person needs. You don't know
what another you know, you don't know.

903
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.679
Maybe someone needs to have be an
alcoholic for three years before they stop.

904
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.280
Maybe someone needs to be in a
horrible relationship before they change your mind.

905
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:43.440
You know, someone needs to be
in a bad job before they decide

906
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.719
to be in a good job.
You know, someone needs to get sick

907
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.639
of diabetes before they quit sugar.
I don't know. I have no idea

908
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:51.320
what someone else needs before, you
know, they fulfill their own destiny,

909
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.039
whatever that is for them. And
to allow people, you know, that's

910
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.559
the beauty of being alive and how
you can have your own intelligence is you

911
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.760
know, to be strong enough to
allow people to do what you don't like,

912
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.039
or what you don't think they should
do, or what you know it

913
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.199
doesn't look good to you, but
you know to stand back and go.

914
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:06.559
You know, if you say so, you know, get at it.

915
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.719
You know, perhaps you know one
day that'll help you out, and that'll

916
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.280
help the rest of us out.
And who am I to say what you

917
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.719
need to do or not too.
It's just ridiculous. Yeah, well,

918
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.480
this is a big thing that's gone
on in the last couple of years,

919
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:23.559
right, everyone running around trying to
wake people up. You know, it's

920
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:26.239
like, what are you doing?
Right? If if you want to wake

921
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:30.480
someone up, they find them mirror. Seriously, you can't change and you

922
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:35.159
can influence them. But the best
way to influence is to change yourself and

923
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:38.920
do the best you can and people
will see you and I'll go, oh,

924
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.679
okay, and I'll learn from that. But but yeah, this whole

925
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.440
you know, change, The way
to change my world is to change the

926
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:50.519
outside world. Apart from the fact
that it's impossible, it's crazy, right,

927
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:54.119
it's crazy. So I think,
you know, again, I think

928
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.000
I'm probably just you know, repeating
myself, But I think the way forward

929
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.400
is to really focus on what we
want and how we can change and understand

930
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:05.599
it. That's that's all, you
know, that's our job, right.

931
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:09.039
We don't have the right, like
you said, Lorenzo, to go and

932
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.039
change other people. But how do
we know that that someone doesn't need to

933
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.440
go through tragedy to to learn,
you know, that they're that they're a

934
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.559
strong person. How do we know
that, you know, someone doesn't have

935
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:23.079
to go through a bad relationship to
understand that they're worthy of more. You

936
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:28.320
know this this is not our business. Our business is us and it's and

937
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.519
so that's you know, a big
thing that that you know, I get

938
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.599
out, because I know a lot
of people out there are still on that

939
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.039
sort of tangent, you know,
let's wake the world up, let's wake

940
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:39.719
people up. But you know,
i'd employ to, you know, spend

941
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:45.880
more time working yourself up. All
right, Yeah, and not only that,

942
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:53.119
to the whole week people up thinking
is completely ridiculous and is so backwards

943
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:58.800
because ninety percent of the information that
they would give to somebody up is wrong,

944
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.719
you know. And uh, that's
a really big problem as well in

945
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:12.360
this getting people on a getting people
off base of of actually looking into themselves

946
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.920
and going within to figure out what's
actually happening with them. And I agree

947
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:20.960
with that. It's a it's an
individual thing and people should be leading by

948
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:26.639
example and not telling people what to
believe and just you know, letting letting

949
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.280
it go. And if people find
what I've said interesting, then great.

950
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.800
If it changed something, it gave
them a new thought process, then great.

951
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:36.840
If something that Campbell said change somebody, then great. Like it,

952
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:44.840
shoving things down people's throats doesn't help, It doesn't do anything. It actually

953
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:48.960
turns them away from the objective that
you're trying to create. Right, It's

954
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:54.880
just about kind of just planning seeds. Just just think a little interesting thing

955
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:56.960
in there every once in a while, you know. That's what I do

956
01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:01.679
with normal, everyday people that isn't
a part of this echo chamber that we've

957
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:05.000
created in this community. Like just
you know, people that I have a

958
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.400
conversation with in the grocery store,
at the gym, or like wherever it

959
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.480
is that I that I am.
I play stupid with those people, you

960
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.800
know, because they don't want to
listen to someone preaching to them. I

961
01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:21.000
don't want to listen to someone that
thinks that they know everything about everything.

962
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.440
And I've never claimed to know everything
about it everything. But that's how it

963
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:29.039
comes off to somebody that is not
a part of this community, is that

964
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.119
you're preaching to them and you're acting
like I know it all. So I

965
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:34.559
just act like an idiot to these
people. It's like, Hey, what

966
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:38.840
do you think about those UFOs?
Dude? Do you think there's anything?

967
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:41.960
Do you think it's anything? Do
that you know? What? Do you

968
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.119
think it's military technology? And I'm
like, what do you think about history?

969
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:46.840
What do you think about the pyramids? Dude? You think that how

970
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.599
that they build those pyramids? Bro? You know? And I just like

971
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:57.159
like I think that that's more important
than going off on a long, huge

972
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:03.440
tangent on normal every day people about
what you believe. It's better to ask

973
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:11.280
them and then kind of interject some
interesting thoughts into the conversation along the way.

974
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:17.119
I think that that does more than
telling them anything. Yeah, honest

975
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.199
humility, there's not enough of that
around. If you're comfortable enough in your

976
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:24.319
own truth in your own life,
you don't care if anyone believes you,

977
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:28.079
and if you're experimenting with the people
around you, like Rader just said,

978
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.920
that's amazing, you know, to
see how you can allow them to figure

979
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.039
it out. Like a good parent
isn't going to tell a child what to

980
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:38.039
do. We'll just encourage them to
do what they want to do. Yeah,

981
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:41.920
my questions. I just getting people
to ask different questions that I think

982
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.239
does well. Can change paper.
You know, yell at someone and tell

983
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.560
them a lot about that, they
just kind of dump that they don't care.

984
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:53.399
But if you can ask them a
question, how did I do with

985
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:55.800
the Pyramids? That's something that is
going to be in their mind and I'll

986
01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:59.039
probably keep thinking on it. So
I think, you know, that's a

987
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.239
lot try and do is get people
to ask better questions. That's my hope,

988
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.079
and that's why I like YouTube.
You can just put up information and

989
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:09.920
if people want to watch it,
they watch it. But I want to

990
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.159
watch it by that. It's not
I'm not forcing it on anyone, you

991
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:16.319
know, So I think, yeah, ire, with everything that's been said,

992
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.199
basically, all right, well,
Writer, maybe we've come to a

993
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:24.279
natural conclusion to you know, how
to do fine at the end of time,

994
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:28.039
figure yourself out, be more humble, keep at it, and if

995
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.720
you make a mistake, do it
again and again and again. Don't try

996
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.039
and push your notions on anyone else. And you know, figure it out

997
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:36.119
for yourself and someone's there with you. Fantastic. I'm meeting you friends,

998
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.079
you know, Writer and I've had
a couple of good chats, and it

999
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.399
feels like we'll probably have several more. Campbell and I have done hundreds.

1000
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.279
And how does this happen? No
idea, right, you know, I

1001
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:47.159
reached out to Writer. I did
reach out to Campbell originally, but I

1002
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.439
had to be confident enough of my
own ability to want to chat with people

1003
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:55.079
and to make these videos and to
meet like minded men to grow with before

1004
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.119
it happens. So I had to
change myself first, and then I got

1005
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.920
you know, the cooperations and the
friendships. You know, have you met

1006
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:02.319
Campbell face to face, you know, not so long ago. So you

1007
01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:05.199
never know how you're going to get
in the same room, shake hands and

1008
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.720
give a huck to someone down the
road, just by changing who you are

1009
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.159
and how you are and what you
feel like making in this life. It's

1010
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.399
always cool meeting people from the internet
in person. Yeah, it's really it's

1011
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:19.720
really cool. It's really interesting.
I've met quite a few people that I've

1012
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:24.920
met on the internet and doing shows
with it. It's really cool. And

1013
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:30.399
some of my best friends are from
this community. And also, yeah,

1014
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:34.600
it's like what you said. If
you're alone and you're then okay. If

1015
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:38.760
you have people around you, then
okay. It doesn't even be one way

1016
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:43.640
or the other. Just let things
flow and do things the way that you

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think that is the best way to
do them. I mean, everything is

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based off of experience, right.
Your experience is different than my experience.

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But there's no reason that a group
of people can't get along and have a

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great conversation. And I think that
that is what we did here today.

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And thank you both really appreciate your
time. We'd like to have you both

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on my channel here sometime soon,
anytime. Writer. I've enjoyed this and

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I'm ready for more. Yeah.
Nice to meet your yeah yeah, and

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everyone have Yeah. I just I
think trust yourself. You know you sign

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if you can't say, just look
a data and stay awesome. But you

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are, stay awesome, be yourself, keep trying. I love you all

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very much. Writer, thank you
so much for being here. Campbell last

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second, I appreciate you being here
as well. This has been an amazing

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chat. I'm gonna get it up
real soon. I'll let you guys know

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when it's live, and I hope
to see you all very very soon.

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Bry for now, jeers, guys
made me la no one test rush just

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don't for the best, but us
say nothing down. Don't forget it my way