All right, hello everyone, Welcome once again to the new Now delighted to
have h well, these two guests on for the first time, Ryder Lee
of Raised by Giants, and probably our viewers are very familiar with Campbell from
Autodidactic because we've done so many together today, I figured we'll tackle the topic
of doing fine at the end of time. Hello, gentlemen, Hello,
how's it going well? Rider? You and I were talking a bit off
camera about a little bit you You've interviewed David Dubain a couple of times,
and Campbell has had him on as well, and I guess it's a good
place to start with end of time scenarios. You know, what's going on,
what could be going on, and how to make sure you're doing fine.
In relation to all of that, well, I don't really think that
people understand how finite our society is. You know, literally everything can be
gone in a matter of minutes. You know, one flip of the switch,
Internet goes down, We're screwed. You know, everything has been digitized.
Documents have been digitized, records have been digitized. Money is basically digital
money. There. We've been working with digital money for a really long time.
It's not coming. It's already here, right, banks, books,
grocery stores, the post office. And I understand why they did it that
way, right, It's for efficiency and getting things done quicker. But the
problem comes is when your entire system is built on top of that, right,
and really nothing is going to last. Nothing really is finite within our
reality. And if the Internet goes down, this generation literally has nothing.
People you know, are thinking that they're making some form of different it's on
the Internet, and maybe they are. Maybe we are, we possibly could
be. But if everything can just be erased and in one hundred, two
hundred, three hundred years, no one would even know that we existed,
and I think that that is a very high possibility. And the last twenty
three years has been about nothing but the Internet. It's how everyone communicates,
it's how people get their voice out there through social media, you create content,
right, And what a lot of people's lives revolve around is the Internet.
And if you take that away, we have nothing. And I'm willing
to bet within one hundred to three hundred years, if the Internet is completely
wiped, people in the future would not even know that we exist. All
of my work has been done on the internet, my channel, my podcast,
my documentary. It's all on the Internet, and it can be taken
away very easy. And if by some chance the Internet gets wiped, there
wouldn't be any physical evidence to prove any of the work that I've done and
the work that a lot of other people have done. And people can say,
oh, well, make sure everything's backed up onto a hard drive and
all that or whatever, and I do that. But there's this is the
thing. Who's to say that in one hundred years time or a two hundred
years time, or sometime in the far distant future that people will even be
able to use USB drives right or a Type C connector We've seen how fast
our technology has went. It's used to be floppy disk. Now no one
has a floppy disk drive. You can even use a floppy disk. They're
completely obsolete. So why do we believe that in the future USB drives won't
completely be obsolete as well? So that means even if someone finds your hard
drive in the future through all the rubble in the collapse of society, if
that is the direction that we're going to go, they aren't even going to
be able to figure out a way to use it, which I think is
the case for a lot of these lost civilizations and a lot of these lost
communities. They were just using a technology that we have absolutely no idea how
to figure out because it's so different than ours. Well, it takes you
right into your studies Campbell and Ritaria. Yeahisations, yeah, yeah, well
yeah, all the ancient you know, yeah, buildings that look like they've
got tam. I was talking about amentory the other day that you know,
when we look at that, we you know, we look at it through
the eyes of our civilization, right, so we looked at you know,
the antiquitech and think, oh, well that was to get power to you
know, to tap it we can run machines and things. But that's probably
not what they were doing. I think it was probably a lot more energy
based and based on basically the human body, right, like like making us
smar healthy and looking at as our body as being the ultimate machine and it
all these other things just aiding it where and I guess that's the expansive you
know. I talk a lot about the nature the nature grid, natural grid
versus the closed circuit, which is you know, the l the electronic grid,
which is what they you know, which just runs this around in the
circles, right, and that's what they want. And yeah, we've got
to a point where we're completely dependent on that just I mean, look what
happened a couple of years ago when toilet paper disappeared, Right, people went
crazy? But where did they all had? They headed to the shops,
right, because that's where they get That's the only place they know to get
stuff. So if you know, if the supply chain goes down, which
you know they want us to think is going to happen, then what happens.
So you know, the endgame is we've really you know, we've got
to take responsibility for everything, right, We've got to be able to respond
to whatever comes our way. And that's really the greatest knowledge. It's not
it's not information, you know that that's the greatest power. It's the noledge
of what to do with that, right, the knowledge of living again,
which again is what sort of they've schooled out of us. Right, Like
even when I was in school, we still had you know, like homec
write, home economics and they teach you to cook and stuff that doesn't exist
anymore. You know, there's Harvey Art anymore, there's I mean, we
know the school system is literally designed to make us good workers, and that's
pretty much it. And then and to get us in the system in this
around the circles, in this closed circuit. So to me, I think
that all the all the answers, like like nature and all everything else you
need, right, I mean, when you think about it, everything we
have all comes from nature. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that. I
book marked an article that told grow your own Twitter paper around that time.
So for anyone listening that wants to go to nature, grow some mullein plants,
big fuzzy, comfortable believes that grow up there and grow very well.
I remember my dad telling me his story like that. He said they didn't
even have toilet paper back in the forties and fifties, and that would use
like the paper that the apples came in. You know, they don't have
a shape. And I'd say that, so, I mean, even toilet
papers, it's not that old. And look how depending we all are on
it on. It's just not the weak world, you guys. Remember back
I think it was, there was an article that I read a really long
time ago that it was back in like the early I don't know, forties,
fifties, sixties, somewhere around in there, but they were talking it
was a hoax article, and it was a hoax newscast that they were talking
about how spaghetti grows from trees and if you and if you go to the
spaghetti farm, you can harvest all the spaghetti that you wanted. Some people
actually believed it. See. My whole thing here is that it's my belief
that human actions are based upon imagination. And this is something that we were
kind of talking about last time. Imagination, belief and faith. It's not
objective observation. And I'm pretty sure that the government, the military, and
politicians know this as well. And you can pretty much track back anything and
everything to emotion and fear. And the question then becomes, how can we
control human imagination? Can we shape and mold the world's collective destiny? If
so, how do we do this? Well, how you do it is
by making sure that the source of the control is never identifiable by the public
right, and then you can effectively prepare everyone for unavoidable changes, push the
collective mind in the desirable direction that you want. And that's why it's important
that the intelligence agencies the advertising companies are very interested in mythology and things that
may or may not be true, so therefore they can weaponize it. This
is why we've seen a rise in the contact the community. We've seen a
rise in UFOs and ufology, which is used to play with our imagination,
which represents experiments in the direction of weaponized folklore, raising superstition, mental illness,
and paranoia. It's interesting we say weaponized folklore, you know, in
that you know, all the dramas in North America were based on you know,
the Old West, the Wild West, which never existed the way they
share it. And you know, being in Japan, all the folklore is
the Samurais, and all the dramas here, like all the old dramas are
samuraized. And you know, if you look Kimball and I have talked about
the old pictures of the Samurais, they look like the three of us more
than Asian people. They look very white, You're very territarian. So even
the history that they believe is true here, you know, it's probably like
you said, Weaponi's folklore to put people to sleep. Well, this is
how our past was. Now we've evolved, you know, Now this is
the future used to be the wild West. You know, even recently,
I was watching some of the wild West movies that you know, the old
ones from fifties, sixties, seventies, you know, came on and it
obviously it looks like bullshit. You can see other actors pretending and sitting on
horses and all that. But when you're a little little boy, you know,
I used to go to those shows too, and you used to have
that imagination. They seem so real to you, you know, you goh,
my goodness, wouldn't have to be good to ride a horse and carry
a gun and to be free on the range, and you know, to
all of you know, drink whiskey and gamble and all these things you used
to see in those And then you look back, you know, as an
adult with a bigger perspective, like you've mentioned, realizing a lot of this
stuff is just you know, Hollywood, hollyweird, you know, the holly
the magic wand of imagination of bringing stuff that's not real to your face,
and you know, you start to see through it, as you said,
rider, and it allows you to see like what do you do now?
You know, like how how do you become fine? When you realize all
everything has been passed along. You know, it's like a hangover from the
wine the next day and it's all gone well. And you see that with
superhero movies. Not is sorry, cameel, go ahead, you not so
good? I talked, I talked for Yeah. I call it the overlay,
right. It's like this reality that they try and and lay on top
of our real reality, and it's an imagined reality. And that's why they
have you know, school, the media songs, you know, all this.
There's so much effort in going into giving us ideas and showing us the
world that they want. Because I still think it comes back to that.
You know, those who wish to rule us aren't creators, right, They
don't have that creative spark you know you mentioned before right about the world's run
off imagination, right, and we have that, but they don't. So
they get us to think and to imagine the future they want, and then
we create it for them. Right. So this is you know really you
know, we've heard it from all the great philosophers. You know, go
inside, right, the answers are inside. And I think that that's true.
We need to start asking ourselves and contemplating, right, like speading.
Because the other thing that this, you know, our circuit does is it
what's our attention, which is probably the greatest commodity at the moment, I
think is attention, right, especially when you look at those that wish to
rule us, you know, versus us and so yeah, that this is
everything's based on getting our attention, getting us to believe what they want to
believe. We go out and create it. But if we go inside,
you know, and contemplate and get that time, which they don't want us
to have our own thoughts, then I think we start to get in tune,
you know, we start to get answers, you know, have you
know, unique thoughts again, right, because they're turning the whole world into
an echo chamber like whatever you believe or researching. I mean you can see
it, right, you know if I like listen to music, like I
listened to like two songs on YouTube and then you go back at everything's music
right after, so you could like they get messed with it. Whatever you
look, just surround you with that because I don't want you, you know,
expanding. This is what the closed circuit is, right, It's contraction.
It's the opposite to nature. So yeah, I mean, yeah,
going, I think all the answers are inside, and that's really going to
be. You know, the way out is in, as they say.
And I think you brought up a really good point of this currency and time
and attention, because I think that I don't think the currency is like the
paper money. It's not anything physical. I think the most valuable currency is
time and attention. You know, you can get money back, you can
make more money always, you can get more physical things if you need them
and you work hard and you do those things. About what you're never going
to get back is time. And I don't think people really realize how valuable
of a currency time is. And your attention and where you put the direction
of your mind into I think that that is the ultimate currency. Yeah.
We used to take current affairs in school, I remember, and it's got
a whole new definition now. Current affairs like moving you in a different direction
in a way that things are going. You used to think it just meant
news or what's going on. And you know, even the new sections used
to have current affairs. I remember a current affairs section in the newspapers I
used to read, you know when I was younger and growing up, so
it's given it a whole new idea of the people that want to control us.
As you say, Campbell, you know, maybe they knew back then.
You know, you write down the current affairs and then that's the way
the current, the currency, the world flows. And you know, as
we've seen, you know, news isn't what's happened. You know, it's
all backwards in this world. They're giving you the new because they want to
show you what you're going to create moving forward. You know, it's an
inverse, backwards world from what I've seen. Yeah, it's like when I
was young, we used to have like the music, you know, the
top twenty and forty and whatever I done, if they still have it,
you know, so it have your number one song, and back when I
was young, I used to think, oh, that's the song that has
sold the most records. But now I understand that it's not. That's the
song I want to be number one, So I put it as number one.
Then everyone goes down and buys the records. It's it's completely reverse and
same with everything. That's what the news is very interesting. You know,
where your attention goes, where things flow you know, imagination. I'm happy
you brought that up and the echo chamber being that this is a reflexive reality,
you know, as Campbell said that one person's talking about it, one
hundred people are talking about it. I mean, even yesterday I was watching
another channel giving a different version of what happened to all the Tritarians, you
know, the inverse of what happened during you know, the last World Wars,
and that they killed them all, you know, and blamed it on
a certain group where the other group some say was this side, some say
it was the other side. I don't need to get into the historical shenanigans.
It seems to upset a lot of people, but you know, this
fellow had a different perspective on that. That's what they were doing in World
War two. Besides bombing all of the scaritarian buildings in Europe and bring it,
you know, down to their knees, they were actually killing off the
last vestiges of that timeline of that imagination, you know, the old world,
you know, to bring us into this new world, you know,
and it's probably what all of the so called wars were about anyways, you
know, to shake it up, to change the timeline to destroy everything,
and it must be in their idea a lot easier now as as Riders said,
you know, they don't have to go through the wars right now.
They don't have to destroy a whole bunch of buildings, you know, they
don't have to you know, wipe out and bury and deny and put up
you know, false stories all over the place. They just have to turn
a switch, like you said, and then suddenly everything that is you know
You've said, and I've said, and Kemball have said, is true so
to speak, and out there in this way, in this digital way,
is gone. And what an easy way to wipe things? Know, talking
about you know, could be the whole reason why they played with the toilet
paper and the ship hitting the fan is just to give people a clue as
to you know, how easy it is to you know, to wipe the
acid civilization and you know, leave them heading for the hills and their mullon
plants. If we go into a reset, another reset, then this would
probably be the easiest reseite that they have ever had to do, that has
ever happened. I mean, nothing is built to last, right you buy
something, it breaks very quickly and I was talking to David Juvine about this
too, and you have to buy a new one, right, I mean,
that's consumerism. You know, if you look at the light bulb conspiracy.
There's a fantastic documentary made on that in twenty ten. But the things
that seem to last are appliances and tools from decades ago. You know,
the refrigerators from the sixties and the seventh these, you know, those are
still working. I think that that's going to outlast nuclear war probably if that
ever happens. Those refrigerators are so freaking sturdy. Right now, if you
walk into an antique store to this very day, all the stuff that's in
that antique store still works. It's all very usable because it's mostly manual things.
It's like cranks and presses, and they're all built very well. They're
built to last. Now. I've asked several people this, not only on
my show, and I want to get your guys' thoughts on it, and
I think it's going to solidify my point here and everyone. I've even talked
to people about this in the sauna at the gym because I like kind of
picking people's brains and getting what normal, everyday people think. About right,
And I was like, if you were to take us one hundred to two
hundred years in the future, let's just say that we all got into a
time machine right now, I'll win one hundred years in the future. What
do you think would be in that antique store? Would be the same stuff
that's in it today or the stuff that's being made today. And everyone that
I've talked to says, the same stuff that's in it to this day is
still going to be in it in one hundred years. Yeah. Yeah.
I just look at the buildings, right, like all these old buildings that
have been around, you know, but they just don't seem to wear down
or break down all the old, big old world buildings, and you know,
they throw up buildings today and that and they're done in ten years.
I'm housing, you know, I mean the housing you know in Australia because
they're just whipping up these little, you know, pretty fab houses on tiny
blocks so quick. I used to do working and putting it, like window
covers and things like this on housesn't most of the windows weren't square, you
know, walls would like they're clearly not built to last. It's like and
it is consumerism. But it's also you know people, you know, we
don't have the skills, so we don't take pride in any of this stuff
anymore, Like we don't really you know, trades trades people are just you
know, people who know how to do what everyone else has done. You
know where trades people back in the day, like woodworkers, and that they
use their imagination as well, right, they weren't just set to a script
kind of thing. You know, a mechanic today just works on cars and
fixes them. He doesn't go out and build cards or have any creativity in
there, really, and I think that's what they've taken, right. And
you know, as far as the old stuff, you know, a lot
of people think, oh, you know hand pressed, you know, having
to do things, that's so old fashioned, that's so antiquated. But you
know, we've got all these devices today they do things for us, and
most people tell you they're bored. They've got this time. They don't know
what to do with it, you know. And what's the other thing.
We're healthy, you know, like so if you ever using your body and
using these hand crank machines in that and do things, you're going to start
healthy and you're not going to be bored and you're going to get satisfaction.
So I think we've been sold this whole you know, massive live light,
that this technology is going to make our lives better. But it's fun as
becoming apparent that it's not. It's only exact opposite, you know, and
it's all tied into the grid as well. You know, it's all tied
into electricity, right, So all these modern conveniences are in the L or
the other l, the you know, the the AC DC or whatever grid.
And as a writer said, how hard is it? You know,
they turn it off. You know, look at all the Tesla drivers that
were stranded in the winter in the United States and they could they couldn't charge
their cars in Chicago or something. And then it's you know, it used
to be. You fill up a car, you know, gas, you
can go for a full day. If it broke, you can find the
wire that was missing, you know, tighten a few screws, you know,
and blowed some dust out of the carburetor and then you're good to go.
You know. I remember looking at old cars and being able to fix
them even though I didn't know what was going on by using some logic of
how things flowed. Okay, this is blocked, this hose, you fix
it, it's gone. There's you know, a loose. You need a
new battery. Good, You're good to go now. You know you look
at a computer and who's setting these up? You know what sort of consciousness?
You know, what sort of life is working from a from this this
way of computer technology. Like you said, that's easy to shut off.
You know, it seems to me if we're going to like segue a little
bit, there could be a little bit of non human intelligence going on that's
kind of directing us towards something that we don't have any control over because we
don't naturally know how to fix computers, right, you know, we don't
naturally Like if you look at a car, you can naturally figure out You
used to be able to naturally figure out how it works. You know,
I talk with a fellow too, Like if you know, you see wood,
you burn it. It's like almost a natural thing, right, It's
like some heats, you set it up, you do it. You know,
one needs to really teach you, so to speak. It just seems
like a natural flow how things work. Now you look at a computer,
I don't see anything natural about that, you know, not not for me
anyways. You know, it seems like silicon value or silicon life instead of
you know, organic life, which is isn't that what they say, you
know, a euphemism for that. Oh, that's just organic, Like it's
a natural flow of things. Like you can just figure it out, you
know. Your intuition is you like, or your imagination, which are or
should be attached to each other instead of these other things where you look into
cell phone you well, how does that work? I don't know. I
better buy a new one, you know. Yeah, man, you crack
a screen on a cell phone and you got to go and it's ridiculous.
Well, also too, it may be that they make electronics so complicated and
to where the normal person can't figure them out, so that they can run
the monopoly on it, so that they are the only ones that can create
it, so that nobody else can create a cell phone, to create a
conflicting company to compete with a lot of these other big companies. Right,
so they'll be like, oh, well, we'll just make it as complicated
as possible. We'll put all these processors, all these little chips and all
the stuff, so no one can really figure out how it works or how
it run so that they can't duplicate it, right, I don't know,
Yeah, I agree, man, it just keeps us in the dark.
That's why you know, people keep saying, you know, why doesn't someone
create you know, another incidet or another of this, And it's because you
know, have you even like, I don't even know how I would even
start or content by how to start doing something like that. And even you
know, though we kind of imagine that there's all these you know, really
smart people out there that are building all this stuff, I think, you
know, the truth is it's it's probably a much smaller group than we think,
and they're probably all owned, right, But it does seem that there's
another intelligence out there, right, I mean, you know, before,
you know, four years ago, everyone was saying all the time, and
how do we advanced so fast? You know, you've got the meme of
you know, the first plane flight in nineteen twelve, and then you know,
by the nineteen World War One they had like planes everywhere and vombers and
then technology it's gone very quickly, right, So is there something behind me?
Because now we've got the rise of AI. You know what exactly is
AI, because you know, I think there is an IIG. I don't
think it's well they're presenting. I don't think it's chat GTP. I think
that's an algorithm. But you know, there seems to be something else out
there. Are this in you know, whatever intelligence or something that that seems
to be controlling you know, you know, a percentage about population to basically
control us. I don't think that that is out of the realm of possibility.
But I think the question becomes, well, if that's the case,
and that is true, are they physical or are they not physical? Is
it a consciousness? Are they in some sort of physical body? And I
don't think so. I think that if that is the case, and there
is something that is controlling us, and again I'm not saying that it is
true, but it would have to be some sort of consciousness. It would
have to be some sort of different, uh entity, like a plasma being,
like a plasma entity or some kind of consciousness entity that would be able
to infiltrate into people through consciousness or be born upon the earth through consciousness.
So they would put their consciousness into a shell and then they would you know,
go on like that. I'd not in the camp of that there are
physical entities outside of our realm. I just don't think that it's possible.
And if it is, they're not coming here. They're they're not. We
just can't physical the physical entity that is different than us, that lives on
a different planet can't just come here. We have a different sun, we
have a different atmosphere, oxygen is different that theirs is completely different as well.
There's no way that a physical entity from outside of our planet can come
here and walk around. One believe that that is impossible. Now, what
they could do again is transfer or take their consciousness from wherever they are and
somehow super impose it or transfer it into a physical shell or avatar, which
you can get into the you know, the cyborg talk or the clone talk.
Now, I'm not saying that either one of those things are real,
but if they are, that would be a good reason to create them,
right, to create a fully animated cyborg or to create a clone shell of
someone, so then you can transfer a consciousness from some entity that is not
from here into that clone or into that cyborg entity, and then they can
walk around here. I heard the TPS were created to originally, you know,
to communicate with the spirit world, with the spirits, and that was
the original intent when they developed the TV. You know, however, long
in the thirties or forties or whatever, it was set up. And if
imagination is real, you know, we've talked about that. You know,
why wouldn't it be possible for a different kind of life that's not organic,
you know, the life that's attacking Coe two, which seems to be the
case right now, a life which just seems to be terriforming. I mean,
if you look at any big city, especially where I am here in
Japan, or even you know, New York or whatever, and you look
at it from above, it looks like a computer chip at this point,
right the grids and the and the skyscrapers and all of the other things.
So maybe it's a silicon life. I mean, as you said, writer,
how hard would it be. They've convinced everyone to walk around with the
cell phone and to look in a window, and how many people say,
where's this information coming from? You know, how many people say, oh,
this is the news or this is the weather, and not so many
people will go to the bottom in question, Well, where is this centralized
information coming from who is figuring this out? If you've talked to any politician,
and I've talked to a few, you can look Biden's eyes or anybody's
eyes, or you know, the guy from Canada, you know that more
on over there. It's pretty obvious that these guys aren't smart enough, you
know, to be figuring this out on their own. You know that.
You know, that's that's so obvious, it's ridiculous. So you know,
and it could be those five people sitting in a big house somewhere, or
you know, it could be you know, a projection of intelligence from somewhere
else to this particular place. And I guess that boats The question is what's
going on and why and how where does that leave us at the end of
time? Yeah, I mean we have you know, King Solomon, right,
who built a temple with apparently, you know, with the help of
demons, which are basically schedules, which are logos, right, which are
everywhere today. But the Eveen like linked up sigils to emojis and to computer
chips. And then we have John Day through to what was his name on
summoned Lamb names just disappeared Alistair Crowley like he, you know, apparently summoned
that that entity called Land that looked like a gray you know, they tell
us to gray aliens and then you know, we have all these possessions and
that's so, you know, there is evidence that there is some kind of
you know, entity intelligence out there somewhere that it's not us. And I
kind of think that, you know, everything's kind of here in this space.
I see things as frequencies, so you know, there could literally be
other you know, realms, let's say, in having the same space as
us, but they're on a different frequency because we know that we only see
from infrared to ultra violet. And you may have heard the stories of vietname
where they gave the fighter pilots read glasses and to help them seeing the dark,
but they ended up seeing demons and devils and things. There's also glasses
which is the other end of the spectrum. You got the red and the
where they say you can see auras and things with them. They've they've obviously
been banned, so you know, a demiurge and we've got these stories,
so I mean, I think it's again, yeah, possible, definitely that
there's some entity out there that can influence. I think it can influence and
that's all it can do, you know. But in the end, I
think people need to give over to it, right. I don't think it
can jump in and kick you out of your body or something. But you
know, we have all the stories, right, you've got to invite the
vampire in, right, like you know, people sell their soul like they
don't get it stolen, like they agree, So I think, you know,
and we could just you know, you've got the devil on one soul
or the angel on the other. It could even just be self talk,
you know. And maybe we're creating these I don't know, but there's definitely
some other influence on this world that we're not pretty to, that that we
can't see. Were you thinking of Edward Kelly, John Dean, Edward Kelly,
Yeah, well yeah, it was that and they were back, and
they were the first one is ready to get involved with you know, spells
and all that kind of stuff going on in the grimoise and it probably all
comes to Solomon. Yeah. I think John d was the advisor first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they say one of the one of the
channel the channel does girl, sorry, the Channel group of beings called a
Nokians or a no ki spot. So isn't that interesting, right? You
know one of the first people they that John Disposey was one of the you
know, uh pseudonyms for you know Shakespeare too back in the day. I'm
one of the people that you know did the writing and the first person with
English and yeah, yeah, yeah, so so it makes it really fascinating
to see you know that we're talking about how I like, how do you
protect yourself? Right? How do you come back full circle? How are
you doing fine? You know at this end of time, you know,
you know, they they've talked about the reset. I remember four years ago
walking on the subway here and just hearing about it. The resets coming,
you know that they're playing they don't from these speakers you know, throughout the
system here with you know, millions of people. And it was really creepy
to me, right that people get used to hearing computer voices. You know,
even someone will put on a voice right now, you know, and
you know, you know, please pay attention, please be polite. You
know, when you go to a shopping center and like I always go,
why why are people listening to these disembodied voices. You know, that's what
we're getting trained to and listening. You know, don't go this way,
you should go this way, or it's an extra five dollars or you know,
take your children home today and you're going like you know, so many
people have been well trained, you know, or in trained or ingrained,
you know, for these disembodied voices, which are probably where TV comes from,
radio, all of it, you know, the original source that even
when I was little, you know, I used to get a lot of
my ideas on how to be alive from my imagination from the TV. This
is how a man is. This is what a relationship is. You know.
This is what you want to do when you get older. This is
how you feel sexy, you know, this is how you feel strong.
You know, like you said, this is the number one song. You
know, go buy that tomorrow. You know, you want to be with
the cool kids. This is These are the pants you wear, and this
is the haircut you have. And everyone's being different while they're being the same.
And it's interesting to see how we've been trained to listen to these disembodied
voices, whether it's from the computer or the cell phone or even a speaker
in the school. You know, I go through the schools here and you
hear you know, you used to get those announcements when you were little,
and you would pay attention to them, you know. Another you know,
so maybe more than just the information when you're ingrained and you get schooled,
could be even how we are trained, as we take it back to the
beginning of this conversation, how we're trained to use our imagination. You know,
instead of using it to create something new, we're using it to recreate
what we're being told, which is not the best benefit of our well,
happy long end, you know, intelligent life. Yeah, really quickly,
I want to go back just a few to this John Dean Edward Kelly thing,
because to my knowledge, John Dead and Edward Kelly h these entities that
they were channeling, they required blood sacrifice for the information and the technology that
they were channeling in. And I don't know about you guys, but anything
that requires any kind of blood sacrifice is probably not the best thing to be
communicating with. And this is a really wild connection here. So John Deey
ended up in prison, Edward Kelly ended up in one of the German kingdoms.
So all of the information that they had channeled through these blood offerings,
went with Edward Kelly to Germany, and Germany wasn't called Germany event then it
was called Prussia. And during that time it was just a bunch of different
kingdoms. But then if you fast forward into the mid eighteen hundreds into the
Sonora Aero Club in northern California, you'll see the case of the airship mystery
and who sponsored this. This was Prussia sponsoring how to create these airship craft,
and Germany has had a huge influence. Again it was in Germany then.
It wasn't Germany until a few years later, but it was Prussia then.
It's had this influence around the occult channeling spirits and all this kind of
what people would describe as like Wu Wu type things. But it's just interesting
because the whole airship mystery of the mid eighteen hundreds in northern California, they
were creating and building what people would claim to be UFOs nowadays in flying saucers,
but it was human technology. And if you look back through the newspapers
of that time, you'll see that people are spotting weird, strange things in
the sky. And this was like decades and decades before the Wright Brothers flew
at Kitty Hawk, So it's just a really weird connection there. And then
you pass forward a little bit into World War Two. You see the Glaca
bell technology which was supposedly using the exact same kind of technology that the Scenario
Aero Club was using as well. They were using a green spinning mercury fuel
additive. The Germans during World War two was using a red spinning mercury fuel
additive which supposedly gave off a lot of radiation. So it's just thought that
that was a very interesting connection there. Walter Bosley has written several books about
the Snori Aero Club, but I just thought that it was important to mention.
Yeah, yeah, man cigar shaped remember that one sounds like an asshoe
definite. And of course, you know with you know, World War two
and missed the Mustache Man. They were running around the world right looking for
relics and things and connected to the whole Brill society. So there's a whole,
a whole chain of events. And then you can take that forward to
those, you know, the top scientists and rocketeers that were taken across in
Project paper Clip and form NASA and so now that they're in America, right,
So it's there's definitely a chain of something of some kind of knowledge or
something, you know, and not not to mention that, you know,
Germany and World War two advance very quickly, right with its tech. You
know, where did all this stuff really come from? All this rocketry,
all the airship, all the stuff, right, it's and where did Why
were they chasing relics? Was that something they were told to do? I
mean, it seems very unlikely that someone who got to the point of ruling
a country, if it happens the way we're told, would then become so
obsessed with some ancient story of some magical relic that they put all the funds
of the countries are running and looking for these things. All right. It's
so there's obviously some more knowledge there, but hate that whoever it was knew
that these relics were real and actually did have power some you know. Yeah,
and you're talking about Project paper Clip there. That's a very interesting one
of people really tend to look over the fact that Russia officially got more paper
clip Germans than the United States. I didn't know that, No, I
didn't know that either. Interesting the Russians version of Project paper Clip brought twenty
five hundred former German scientists and specialists were relocated to the Soviet Union, along
with four thousand family members were relocated as well, So that tolls about sixty
five h hundred Germans relocated to Russia after World War Two officially and officially the
United States got sixteen hundred. Now that number can be fictitious. It's supposedly
unofficially closer to the range of ten thousand, but again that's an official official
documentation the sixteen hundred community the US. So Russia actually got quadruple the amount
of German scientists, and they did it in one large like lump replacement.
Right. The United States did it over a period of I believe like six
to seven years, maybe even longer, but Russia just did it all at
one time, all in one lump. So and I'm pretty sure that they
got them first, so that means well, they had the first pick.
So the United States kind of got the leftovers and the people that maybe you
weren't the best at what they were doing, and Russia got all the people
first. Witch then you know, begs the question of the Cold War,
and like what's going on in there? Why did we do that? You
know, it was because our Germans were at odds with each with each other's
Germans, like I don't know. And then the blood sacrifices, right,
wasn't Stalin after that? So they starved millions of people and killed millions of
their own population. The United States as well, has been at war for
you know, hundreds of years NonStop. I've heard, you know, one
after the next, one after the next. So if they're using blood sacrifices
to power what you guys just mentioned, you know, in the project paper
Clips or whatever they were call going to Russia, it seemed to me that's
still going on. You know, they're looking for those vampires and non non
ending supply of human sacrificing right into what they're doing, you know, recently
in different parts of the world supposedly you know today you know, more blood
sacrifice, more bringing about you know, pain and suffering, more, more
child sacrifice, no doubt about that too, you know, And then that
brings about, you know, the uh, the idea of how they're powering
what you've mentioned, these these crafts that they're building. You know, maybe
it's not a physical thing that they're looking into building, you know, beyond
the cigar shapes of the bell shapes. Maybe it's more of a something as
you mentioned mercury, which if you look at the old alchemists they talk about
you know, there was a special kind of mercury they used to do in
the goal transformation. Right, it wasn't to transform led to gold. That
was the transformation of humanity or the human energy towards something of a higher level.
Whonder if it's all tied together, yeah, it makes it interesting.
It's the only level that that liquid but that amalgams that basically we'll just joined
it in not a matter just developed so nice. But I mean I think
you know, the thing is like this this. I mean, there's so
much information come out in the last four years since everyone's you know, being
wiping up and all this kind of stuf up, and I think that's on
purpose, right to confuse this and again it's your cant thing. So everyone
was looking here is this right? Is this right? Or listen to that
person. It's that person a shield. And you know, I always say
it's eighty twenty or right in the truth. If there's some lives in every
life, there's some truth. But you know, I think the way out
zimmer like, Like we can spend our lives, you know, trying to
work out what outside of us is correct and true, or we could spend
that time working out what inside of us is correct and true. And I
think that's probably more important, right, because once you know who you are,
then you can really start to do things, do things differently that are
that are yours, right, I think. I mean, one of our
biggest problems is people are just copying each other. Right, There's no new
new stuff coming out, and you see it on you know, YouTube and
all these platforms. People someone gets an idea and everyone just copies it.
It's just it's crazy. So, you know, I think that the way
to go forward is really to go inside. But to understand that you know,
it's you, right, You're really the only person you can rely on.
You're really the only person who knows what you're thinking, and you've got
everything you need. You know, we're taught that we need all this stuff
from outside, and we need other people, and we need all this support
and all this blah blah blah blah. Right, run with the herd.
But I think the most powerful people and the people who affect you know,
this place the most are the ones who know who they are, and they
shure of who they are and what they want to do, and so they
just do it that. They don't waste time looking for people to come with
them or to support them more for this or for that. They just start
walking. And I think once you start doing that, then everything that you
need tends to come to you right where we are taught to do it the
other way around. Get everything we need first, and then then I can
start you know. So yeah, I think that's the way forward is really
too you know, they've just date date powder so much. You know,
the average person doesn't really think that they're worth much, doesn't think they can
do much to change, you know, anything. But that's to me,
that's the biggest one of all. What way are the powers? As far
as I'm concerned? And we just made a tack it back as they say,
right you know. Even Writer mentioned in our last chat, which is
very interesting, how you know he went through his own challenges and you have
to face them a thousand times until you change, which is very inspirational.
And a lot of people will try once or twice to do something new and
then give up when it doesn't work. And you know, we've all seen
that sometimes. You know, how many times did you have to try something?
You when you were a little boy, before you learned how to walk,
before you learned how to do well in talking to ladies, before you
learned, you know, how to dress or dance. I mean probably instinctively,
you practiced a thousand times before you learned the new skill. Like how
much baseball practice do these guys do before they can hit a home run in
the major leagues? It's like twenty years practice every day, eight hours a
day before they finally figure it out. And in the modern age, you
know, as you've said, where people are getting used to instant gratification,
they go, I tried that twice, didn't work. Next where if you
really consider the deeper aspects of how you learn, you know, maybe you
have to do something for ten years, you know, before you become an
expert at it, you know, a thousand times before you figure it out.
Now, maybe that's how you know, as Chemica said, you do
find at the end of time is figure out what you need to do and
don't give up if it doesn't work the first second or one hundredth time.
That's very important because everyone learns in a different kind of way, and I
think that that has been the problem with the school systems. I know we
talked a little bit about the school systems on our previous show, but they
want to blanket everybody with the same kind of learning curriculum, right when that's
not how everyone learns. So therefore you get people that don't learn that way
and they can't get a hold of it. See. I've always learned from
repetition and watching other people kind of do things. And if I can watch
someone do something a few times in a row, then I can mostly do
it. That's how I played musical instruments growing up, was by memory,
by muscle memory. I watched someone play something, then I would be able
to play it. You know, and other people learn in different ways.
A lot of some people learn by like studying things and reading books, and
which you know, I read as well. But I think that we've gotten
to a point within our society that we've just tried to take the We've been
led to believe that the same type of learning process works for everyone when it
doesn't, and no one has that individuality like a teacher, or I mean
even in college. It goes all the way up into college. They don't
really take that one or two or a handful of people aside and be like,
hey, here's another way that you can figure this stuff out. And
when people they whenever, especially children, they'll think that they're dumb or they'll
think that they're not smart. They'll think that they're stupid because they can't learn
the same way that other people learn, and they think, well, why
am I not understanding this? Why am I not getting this? What's because
the curriculum and the way that it's being taught to you isn't the way that
you comprehend things. And that's been I think a huge downfall of our society
as a whole is there's not any individualism to the school system, to the
colleges, and to education. It's just all blanketed with the exact same rules,
the exact same curriculum, and there's no individuality to it. Autodidactic per
ucation. I'm in with maths, like when I was in school that they'd
even make you do like show your working out, and the working out had
to be a certain way, and my brain didn't work that way. And
I'd always do it a different way, and my way was much quicker,
by the way, much much less steps than that, and I'd always get
the right answer, but I'd always get marked down because I hadn't done the
working out there. But I refused to. I was just like, well,
that's dune. I don't understand it. But this is the thing most
people get sort of hamlet and think, oh it's me, I'm the stupid
one. Where I guess I was lucky and arrogant enough to think that the
teachers was too right, so I just kept going. But it's you know,
this is the thing they just want to control, just control our thought
process, so you know, the further you can get away from that.
And you know, I used to think a lot about this concept of you
know, natural thought or original thought and the fact that we just don't have
it. It's very very rare, right, even even in your own mind,
to have original thoughts. So most of the stuff it's playbacks of other
stuff or other people's opinions. So you know, just focusing on that,
like like, what what's what? What's my thought? You know, what
am I thinking? What's my message? Just you know, in whichever way
right, meditation, you know, and meditation can be anything. It can
be gardening, it can be working on a car, right, And then
suddenly you get to oh, that's what that's how to fix it, you
know. But when you we're training so much to just repeat, repeat,
repeat right school again, you know, the teacher stands up there, it
gives you information, and you're only smart if you can repeat back you can
think of a different ye. So yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's
that's that's a change. We've got a break, right, you know.
I've said one of my favorite sayings is the statue is not not finished when
there's nothing more to add. It's finished when there's nothing more to take away.
And I think that's what happens to us. We get all put on
us, and then it's the double of us stripping away and knowing what to
get rid of, and then we get life with ourselves and then we can
start to think clearly. Again. Yeah, I agree with that, And
you're very lucky and several of us are very lucky within school that we just
we doubled down on our own thought process and we were like, hey,
this is the way that works for me, and we didn't get dissuaded by
teachers and people telling us the way that they think we should be doing stuff.
And I think that that's a very important thing because I don't believe that
a lot of people can do that, and it's very unfortunate that it's that
way. And when you look at because I've known several people throughout my life
that got involved in, you know, drugs and became major alcoholics because they
were just different than every one else. They can find their home of people,
they can find the group of people, so then they just turn to
drugs and alcohol to fill that void within themselves, you know, and not
really realizing that this is a lonely journey. This is a lonely ass journey,
and you really have no one other than yourself, you know. And
it's it's good to do these types of shows and be with other people and
stuff, but I think finding that and realizing and taking responsibility for your actions
and your decisions, you have no one but yourself. You are your own
individual. You got to swim through this life alone, basically, and realizing
that and paving your own way and the dedication and the responsibility and the persistence
is very important. It's like you were just mentioning earlier. Some people they
just do something a few times and then they're like, oh, well,
it wasn't successful, it wasn't good. You got to just keep hammering away
at that thing and chipping away at it, and eventually that will pay off.
And it it's probably not going to be tomorrow. It's probably not going
to be next week, next month, next year, maybe ten years down
the road. But thinking about it is is people really aren't successful in that
avenue until they're in their mid thirties or even into their forties. They really
don't start getting that's if they've stayed on that track and you know, broke
away from what other people want them to do and they're trying to go down
their own path. Because normally your parents are like, why do you want
to do that? Don't do that, don't be a filmmaker, don't do
all that, because that's not going to pay the bills, right, But
they want that instant gratification, and that's what a lot of this society has
been built upon, has been instant gratificing. Right. We want the newest
thing, the quickest thing, the easiest thing to get us from point A
to point b when the long road, this is what I'm calling in now,
the wrong The long road is way more fulfilling. Now the long road
does take more work and time and effort, but in the end you're going
to reap more rewards. You know it isn't it wonderful that we probably don't
need anyone else? I mean, that's the beauty of it. I would
say, you're born with everything you need to get along. You know,
you're being taught from the time you were little that you need as Campbell said,
you need this, you need that, you need the other thing.
You need money, you need a relationship. You know, you need a
blender, you know whatever. And you know, to come full circle and
figure out you don't need nothing. Right, you're breathe in, You're alive.
You know, one step in front of the other, you can figure
it out. And if no one's with you, well that's wonderful. You
know. The Toll text that I remember reading a book which stuck with me
to this day, that he makes loneliness his art, and I thought it
was a beautiful, beautiful way of putting it. You know, to make
loneliness you're art and to create what you need to do if you find yourself
alone, you know, make art with your loneliness and see what you can
do from there. And then, you know, since this chat is about
how we do find at the end of time, maybe that's how you do
it. You have to be okay with being alone. You have to be
okay with being autodidactic. You have to be okay with failing one hundred times
before you succeeded one hundred and tenth. Maybe we're holographic learners. I'm thinking
as well. Like Campbell said, I had the same experience. I would
never show more work, and I got into arguments with my math teachers.
I said, you're an idiot. I don't have to show my work.
I got the right answer. That's you know, because maybe you're being trained
to think instead of use your intuition. I would say that's what schooling really
does. It beats your intuition out of you. Because if you can come
up with the answer, what are you using? Who cares? Right?
You know, it doesn't matter. But I don't think they're after the answers.
They're not. They're after you know, good little slaves. To listen.
Show your work means you've got to do it the same way as everyone
else. Like writer said, so this is the only way you get full
grades. You know, this is the only way you get that a gold
star. This is the only way you get that job. There's no other
way. This is it. And you know perhaps that is what leads you
know, as I cut the end of that writer, you know, the
alcoholism and the drugs and what did the indulgence or whatever, because you know
you think there's the only way and you're not fitting in, and so what
do you do? Well, you know, try and make yourself feel better
any way you can. Man, they give us all the options, so
you don't know, whatever you want you can get it, but you know
if it's a ntural herve and you probably can't. But yeah, mistakes,
right everything every you know, take one, take too. This is what
people think it's a mistake, but it's not. It's just a mistake,
right, So you just take take two, take a hundred, just keep
going until you until you get there. But this I think is also from
people don't believe in themselves. I don't think they've they've got what it takes,
and and subconsciously they're telling themselves, I'm going to fail. I can't
do this, but in the conscious mind they're like, oh, I'm going
to do it. I'll give it a go. But of course the subconscious
wins and like two or three times, and I can see it hours writing.
You know, it wouldn't work. And of course, you know,
it's all starting to do with the subconscious, which is what they work on
programers. But I mean, I've just personally, I've just over the last
you know, kind of week or so really sort of come to terms with
that that it is only you, right, it is. It'd be great
to have help, and it'd be great to have this, and it'd be
great to have that. But the thing is, you know, we can't
change other people. We can influence them, but we can't you know,
we can't make people come along and want our dream or want our goals.
But like I said before, if we have the courage to walk and to
keep going in that direction and to believe in it, then the people we
need tend to show up anyway. Right. But you know, just in
my life, I still was thinking, you know, I want to get
this done, you know, and I'd be thinking I need this person,
this person could help really, but you know that's all really got to go
out the Winnow, it's got to be you. What can you do because
that's really the only thing you can affect. You know, if you think
it can affect other people and all this, you're really kidding yourself. Well,
affect them, but you can't tell and make people do anything you It
just can't that for yourself. And to trust yourself, you know, to
learn how to trust yourself. I would say that's a key one that they
don't teach you in school. To trust your guts, to trust your intuition,
to trust your heart. No matter what you know, if there's a
creator, wh would the creator make a mistake in making you right? No
matter how different or weird or strange you are. You know you're you know
you're wonderful, You're full of wonder You should be different, and the challenge
is in trusting that difference so that you can be the best you. There's
a bazillion flowers. I don't want to look at the same flower every day.
You know, when I go out and I see you one, that's
what catches my eye. You know, when I'm walking down the street and
it happens to me. Here a lot you know, since some of the
new part of the world for myself. I see a you bird or and
you plant, or hearing you sound, which I do. That's what catch,
That's what I'm interested in exploring. Right, go oh, I didn't
see that flower before. I haven't seen that before. What's that you know?
What's that bird sound? I'm sure I haven't heard that. And that's
what draws my imagination and my attention and my awareness towards something wonderful. So
if people put that in their heart and realize it's amazing to be different.
It's fantastic to have a different smell and a different look, and a different
idea and a different notion and in the different ways or a different dance or
to make different food, whatever, because that's really what the world is after,
is you know, this expansion of difference, you know, not the
contraction where we're all one, you know that, which is one of those
means which I know is a lot of bullshit that gets passed along by the
new age. We're all one. No, we're not. I mean,
we're all here, but we're not all one. You know, We're all
different, which is really interesting. There's this contact that really no one knows
about. His name is Samuel Eden Thompson, and he apparently met extraterrest trials
in Washington in nineteen fifty and his entire story was really overshadowed by Kenneth Arnold
and Betty and Barney Hill later on, but it's a very interesting story.
And he was apparently driving his vehicle in Washington. He came across this craft.
There was a ramp. He walked up to the ramp. These beings
came out. There was apparently twenty five different beings. There's like fifteen kids,
and they were supposed He said that they were from Venus, that they
were Venetians, and they gave him all of this information. And I think
that the most interesting. And I'm not saying any of it's real, and
I don't necessarily believe in that, but I take it as information and a
part of a historical record, so I think it's important to talk about.
So one of the most interesting things that they told him, they said,
the problem with Earth is that all of the people of Earth are born under
different astrological science. They're all born under different stars, born under different planets.
But the people on Venus are all born under the exact same astrological science,
so they're like a hive mind. And then see, I don't take
that as a negative thing. I don't think that it's a negative thing that
we're all born under a different astrological sense. But you can get into astrology
and all that and see that the stars really do make a difference in our
life. If you get a really really good astrological reading, that person can
literally tell you everything that's happened to you in your life and tell you what
may happen to you in the future. So it really does. Astrology really
does make a difference in cultivating and creating our personality and the way that we
live in the events that may or may not happen in the future. But
I don't take that as like a bad thing because I think that that's what
makes us special here is that we all are different. We all are born
under different astrological signs. No one is born under the exact same astrological science
at any given time, and that makes us very very special here. And
and some people would be like, oh, well, I want the utopian
type of type of hive mind where everyone gets along and everyone's peaceful. Well
that's the freaking New world. Order given. Yeah, that is what the
new world order is. And these people don't realize that that is actually what
they're fighting for. That's really what they want. They think that they're against
it, but they're really for it. If they want everything to be peace
and everything to be harmony in this golden age, that is a dictatorship.
That's not this freedom that people think that it is. So I mean,
frem and it got people you know, think about or lock about. It
is them is letting everyone else befraid right to beg hear they want to pay
paople do want that part afraid? It's one to be afraid of and everyone
else should do it, I tell but but yeah, ultimate afraid of me
is but we're all at what we wanted to obviously, you know, do
not harm. But apart from that, you know, let people leave Roan.
I think an adult is usually an adult enough to allow others to do
what they need to do, to stand back even if you don't agree with
them, and to allow them to you know, fulfill the process they need.
Because you know, writer made a good point. You don't know what
another person needs. You don't know what another you know, you don't know.
Maybe someone needs to have be an alcoholic for three years before they stop.
Maybe someone needs to be in a horrible relationship before they change your mind.
You know, someone needs to be in a bad job before they decide
to be in a good job. You know, someone needs to get sick
of diabetes before they quit sugar. I don't know. I have no idea
what someone else needs before, you know, they fulfill their own destiny,
whatever that is for them. And to allow people, you know, that's
the beauty of being alive and how you can have your own intelligence is you
know, to be strong enough to allow people to do what you don't like,
or what you don't think they should do, or what you know it
doesn't look good to you, but you know to stand back and go.
You know, if you say so, you know, get at it.
You know, perhaps you know one day that'll help you out, and that'll
help the rest of us out. And who am I to say what you
need to do or not too. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, well,
this is a big thing that's gone on in the last couple of years,
right, everyone running around trying to wake people up. You know, it's
like, what are you doing? Right? If if you want to wake
someone up, they find them mirror. Seriously, you can't change and you
can influence them. But the best way to influence is to change yourself and
do the best you can and people will see you and I'll go, oh,
okay, and I'll learn from that. But but yeah, this whole
you know, change, The way to change my world is to change the
outside world. Apart from the fact that it's impossible, it's crazy, right,
it's crazy. So I think, you know, again, I think
I'm probably just you know, repeating myself, But I think the way forward
is to really focus on what we want and how we can change and understand
it. That's that's all, you know, that's our job, right.
We don't have the right, like you said, Lorenzo, to go and
change other people. But how do we know that that someone doesn't need to
go through tragedy to to learn, you know, that they're that they're a
strong person. How do we know that, you know, someone doesn't have
to go through a bad relationship to understand that they're worthy of more. You
know this this is not our business. Our business is us and it's and
so that's you know, a big thing that that you know, I get
out, because I know a lot of people out there are still on that
sort of tangent, you know, let's wake the world up, let's wake
people up. But you know, i'd employ to, you know, spend
more time working yourself up. All right, Yeah, and not only that,
to the whole week people up thinking is completely ridiculous and is so backwards
because ninety percent of the information that they would give to somebody up is wrong,
you know. And uh, that's a really big problem as well in
this getting people on a getting people off base of of actually looking into themselves
and going within to figure out what's actually happening with them. And I agree
with that. It's a it's an individual thing and people should be leading by
example and not telling people what to believe and just you know, letting letting
it go. And if people find what I've said interesting, then great.
If it changed something, it gave them a new thought process, then great.
If something that Campbell said change somebody, then great. Like it,
shoving things down people's throats doesn't help, It doesn't do anything. It actually
turns them away from the objective that you're trying to create. Right, It's
just about kind of just planning seeds. Just just think a little interesting thing
in there every once in a while, you know. That's what I do
with normal, everyday people that isn't a part of this echo chamber that we've
created in this community. Like just you know, people that I have a
conversation with in the grocery store, at the gym, or like wherever it
is that I that I am. I play stupid with those people, you
know, because they don't want to listen to someone preaching to them. I
don't want to listen to someone that thinks that they know everything about everything.
And I've never claimed to know everything about it everything. But that's how it
comes off to somebody that is not a part of this community, is that
you're preaching to them and you're acting like I know it all. So I
just act like an idiot to these people. It's like, Hey, what
do you think about those UFOs? Dude? Do you think there's anything?
Do you think it's anything? Do that you know? What? Do you
think it's military technology? And I'm like, what do you think about history?
What do you think about the pyramids? Dude? You think that how
that they build those pyramids? Bro? You know? And I just like
like I think that that's more important than going off on a long, huge
tangent on normal every day people about what you believe. It's better to ask
them and then kind of interject some interesting thoughts into the conversation along the way.
I think that that does more than telling them anything. Yeah, honest
humility, there's not enough of that around. If you're comfortable enough in your
own truth in your own life, you don't care if anyone believes you,
and if you're experimenting with the people around you, like Rader just said,
that's amazing, you know, to see how you can allow them to figure
it out. Like a good parent isn't going to tell a child what to
do. We'll just encourage them to do what they want to do. Yeah,
my questions. I just getting people to ask different questions that I think
does well. Can change paper. You know, yell at someone and tell
them a lot about that, they just kind of dump that they don't care.
But if you can ask them a question, how did I do with
the Pyramids? That's something that is going to be in their mind and I'll
probably keep thinking on it. So I think, you know, that's a
lot try and do is get people to ask better questions. That's my hope,
and that's why I like YouTube. You can just put up information and
if people want to watch it, they watch it. But I want to
watch it by that. It's not I'm not forcing it on anyone, you
know, So I think, yeah, ire, with everything that's been said,
basically, all right, well, Writer, maybe we've come to a
natural conclusion to you know, how to do fine at the end of time,
figure yourself out, be more humble, keep at it, and if
you make a mistake, do it again and again and again. Don't try
and push your notions on anyone else. And you know, figure it out
for yourself and someone's there with you. Fantastic. I'm meeting you friends,
you know, Writer and I've had a couple of good chats, and it
feels like we'll probably have several more. Campbell and I have done hundreds.
And how does this happen? No idea, right, you know, I
reached out to Writer. I did reach out to Campbell originally, but I
had to be confident enough of my own ability to want to chat with people
and to make these videos and to meet like minded men to grow with before
it happens. So I had to change myself first, and then I got
you know, the cooperations and the friendships. You know, have you met
Campbell face to face, you know, not so long ago. So you
never know how you're going to get in the same room, shake hands and
give a huck to someone down the road, just by changing who you are
and how you are and what you feel like making in this life. It's
always cool meeting people from the internet in person. Yeah, it's really it's
really cool. It's really interesting. I've met quite a few people that I've
met on the internet and doing shows with it. It's really cool. And
some of my best friends are from this community. And also, yeah,
it's like what you said. If you're alone and you're then okay. If
you have people around you, then okay. It doesn't even be one way
or the other. Just let things flow and do things the way that you
think that is the best way to do them. I mean, everything is
based off of experience, right. Your experience is different than my experience.
But there's no reason that a group of people can't get along and have a
great conversation. And I think that that is what we did here today.
And thank you both really appreciate your time. We'd like to have you both
on my channel here sometime soon, anytime. Writer. I've enjoyed this and
I'm ready for more. Yeah. Nice to meet your yeah yeah, and
everyone have Yeah. I just I think trust yourself. You know you sign
if you can't say, just look a data and stay awesome. But you
are, stay awesome, be yourself, keep trying. I love you all
very much. Writer, thank you so much for being here. Campbell last
second, I appreciate you being here as well. This has been an amazing
chat. I'm gonna get it up real soon. I'll let you guys know
when it's live, and I hope to see you all very very soon.
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