WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:14.880 He'll be go'll be bit It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this 2 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:18.480 for May sixth, twenty twenty four. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.960 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 4 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.440 with me Jeff Graub. Today, the hell divers psn Login Saga has reached 5 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.920 its zenith with a stunning twist ending and Activision hates us and we now have 6 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.679 the proof. Also, Nintendo just said they're going to talk about the new 7 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.960 switch tomorrow in some way, but first please join me and welcome to today's 8 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:41.320 co host the Game Mess Mornings. It's Emma Fife. Everybody, Emma, 9 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:46.759 how are you doing? Just great? I got my coffee, Yeah, 10 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.799 I got my cat. Yeah. Right here, he's just barely out of 11 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.280 brain. You can see his little nose poking and he'll probably be around mostly 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.960 he'll just lay on my hand. That's the thing about this cat. This 13 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:03.439 is yeah. He time I come down at this desk, like he's doing 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.040 it right now, but you can't see because he's in front of me. 15 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.519 But he just like will lay on my hand or rub his face all over 16 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.640 my hand, or stand directly in front of the monitor. That I'm working 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:17.840 off of. Yeah, he just really really likes to be involved in everything 18 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:23.280 that I do. Oh kitty cat, Yeah, my cat now just basically 19 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.840 yells at me for more food. That's it. That's his main His main 20 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.280 mode in life is just a yell old man. Right. Oh, yes, 21 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:36.359 he's about he's got to like thirteen fourteen old and big. That's the 22 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.920 way we like him. Brown here yep. Yeah. How was your weekend 23 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.159 though? How you get get any games played? You? Oh? My 24 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:49.920 god? Yeah? So yeah, yesterday I spent some good time with and 25 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.200 I threatened to do it earlier on this show a few weeks ago to download 26 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.040 star Os in the Second Story are even though I was like, I don't 27 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.640 need to play star Os in the Second Story again because I played it on 28 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:06.760 PlayStation. I've played it on the PSP version, and yep, now I'm 29 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.199 playing it again. And you know what, it is great love all the 30 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:14.560 quality of life improvements. Some psychopath went in there and they re rendered all 31 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.520 the maps in like a three D like following the back of your character type 32 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:23.080 perspective. Yeah, it's fanta love the new character art. Yeah, absolutely, 33 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.520 totally totally enjoying it. And then the other thing I did this weekend 34 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:34.520 was my fiancee has a friend who is in a group called Extra Lives. 35 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.759 So basically they're all like studio and touring musicians, but they have this other 36 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:43.319 project they do that is all like rock renditions of video game music, primarily 37 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:49.560 from the sixteen bit and earlier era. But the way that they do it 38 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.639 is go to choose your own adventure format. So basically there's a story that 39 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.400 you're following effort, and periodically it comes up in the audience and you have 40 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:00.199 to like make the next choice. And so they play songs for video games 41 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.560 and they'll use like b roll from games. Yeah. So the new one 42 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.479 that they have a new show, Now, this one's like a post apocalyptic 43 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.319 one where you live in this world of robot overlords and are trying to like 44 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:16.280 free the people. Yeah, it's it's really really fun. That sounds great. 45 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.439 Yeah, and my friends we went with some other friends and one of 46 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:28.039 them he said afterwards that they, you know, three minutes of them playing 47 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.800 the music from Dire Dire Docs. He's getting married this year, but he 48 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:37.000 thinks that might be the best moment of all of twenty twenty four. That's 49 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.439 incredible. Okay, yeah, that sounds really fun. Yeah, it's really 50 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.919 fun. I spent basic all day yesterday taking care of my yard. It's 51 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:50.080 getting out of here. Yes, yeah, I'm over it. A kid 52 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.919 came by and he was like, do you need help with one care? 53 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:53.639 I'm like, get out of your kid. And then I'm like, wait, 54 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.360 I should have said yes. What was I thinking? Yeah, like 55 00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:59.680 I need to read think. Thanks, you're back here. I'm so sorry 56 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.680 for me. I'm be an old man. Yeah, but next time, 57 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.919 next time he's next time I see him, I'll just yell at him to 58 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:08.759 come mow my lawn. Instead, I'll be kind of yelling. All right, 59 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.759 let's see here, you know what, let's explain what we do here 60 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.360 most weekdays, I, Jeff Greb will help help piece your gaming life back 61 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.480 together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. 62 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.839 For all these topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert 63 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:26.879 who will make me look smart. If you are watching live on twitch welcome, 64 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.759 you can always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for 65 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.240 Game mess Mornings, or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You 66 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:40.920 can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube, 67 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:42.839 All right, we have lots to get into, so let's start the 68 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.920 morning mess with. Nintendo says it will talk about the next game console at 69 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.120 its investor meeting this week. This is something that just popped off right before 70 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.879 I came online. Let's see. At ten forty am, Andrew Marmo on 71 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:02.759 Twitter captured this from Nintendo's Earnings Relation investor portal or Investor Relations. I should 72 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.279 say, and yeah, I'm just kind of I'll read what they're what they 73 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:11.560 say here. They said the main dialogue topics and matters of interest to investors. 74 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.079 These are the things that it's planning to talk about at its financial earnings 75 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:20.079 call with investors. Topics covered include financial results overview and business outlook, business 76 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:25.680 momentum of Nintendo Switch, the next game console, and business impact of a 77 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.360 hardware transition IP strategy, including the visual content, business capital policy ESG, 78 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:36.560 and sustainability initiatives. That is kind of what I was expecting, Emma, 79 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:41.600 in terms of, Hey, this is Nintendo, and they when they start 80 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.879 talking about these things, the first place we usually hear about it is in 81 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:50.279 a very vague reference in an earnings report. In some like official SEC approved 82 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.680 documentation where they say this thing is going to happen, let's all get ready 83 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.800 for it, and here we are. I mean, it feels momentous, 84 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:01.839 even if it's also extremely boring. What do you think? Sure, Yeah, 85 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.959 it's one of those things where everybody knows that Nintendo is going to make 86 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:13.160 another console. There you know the Nintendo's not going to just give up certainly, 87 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.040 and and we've talked about this before that Nintendo is in this very advantageous 88 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:21.879 position of having these ip that nobody else can touch that are extremely beloved, 89 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:26.639 like your Marios and your Zelda's. So yeah, I mean it's like, 90 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.079 we know Nintendo is going to make another console, uh, and that it's 91 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:35.639 about time, and here we go, we're gonna here that it's definitely happening. 92 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:42.279 So but again, it's it is that confirmation of this is happening, 93 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.800 even though we all knew that that was definitely I feel like I'm talking in 94 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.040 a circle here, but it is circular, right, And we knew this 95 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:50.879 was going to happen here it is now now it's happened, and they did 96 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:55.279 it in the exact way we're expecting, So right, we kind of know 97 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.240 what like how this dance goes a little bit. I think when it comes 98 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.319 to Nintendo, we always look for pad. They don't always abide by those 99 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:08.240 patterns, but this one is I think dictated by a certain obligation to investors 100 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.879 that they don't normally ignore. So here we are, we're getting this. 101 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.000 What do you think this means about the timing though? Do you think that 102 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.360 they say this little tidbit here in this document that when they actually have the 103 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.759 call, what do you first of all, what do you think they're going 104 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.600 to say to investors. Do you think it's going to be anything in depth 105 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:30.519 or is it just going to be vagaries. I think at this point we 106 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.319 might actually get something in depth, because once again, you know, we're 107 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:42.360 already hearing talk about PlayStation sixes and Xbox infinities, whatever the heck Xbox is 108 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:46.240 going to call our next console. So I do think that we are in 109 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.839 an area wherein we need some more concrete discussions about when we are getting this 110 00:07:53.920 --> 00:08:01.959 hardware. I maybe it feels like the time I'm for new hardware is holiday. 111 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:11.560 I feel like saying holiday twenty twenty four might be a bit ambitious, 112 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.680 But then again, they had a whole Lass Mario game last year that nobody 113 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.680 knew about. Yeah. True, you know, it's an interesting call with 114 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.920 Nintendo. Yeah, so, you know, we've had some conflicting reports and 115 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.079 they are all just reports and rumors at this point, but conflicting reports that 116 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.639 hey, maybe the switch could still come out this year. Most of the 117 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.799 reporting, most of the rumors say, now, the thing is is that 118 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.000 Nintendo's pushing it back internally. It's coming out sometime in twenty twenty five. 119 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.200 Yeah, there's obviously a question. And then do they still try to get 120 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.679 it out before March, which would be before the end of their fiscal year. 121 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.519 They probably would like that. But also, this is not a company 122 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.039 that is like looking around being like, God, we got to make sure 123 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.279 this fiscal year looks good or else we're boned. I think they have a 124 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.159 the investors have a pretty good idea of like, Intendo's going to release something. 125 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.679 If it's not this year, then it's next year. So if we 126 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:05.120 want to like see, you know, reap those rewards, let's stay on 127 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.919 and keep our investments in this company. So I don't think Nintendo would panic 128 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.440 necessarily unless they are ready, right, But I think that you know, 129 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.440 the chances are if they were trying to launch this thing this year originally and 130 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.919 the games were coming, and they're pushing back the system so the games are 131 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.919 ready and so they can get enough hardware made, I think that probably does 132 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.159 mean we get it early next year. I agree. And again, it's 133 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:33.679 like it just doesn't feel like in a year after they had a gigantically successful 134 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:37.879 Zelda title, that they would have something ready for launch, and they're going 135 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.480 to want to launch with big Nintendo IP titles. So I agree with you 136 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:50.960 that realistically next year yep. Also, apparently Fami boards, the Nintendo fan 137 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.519 board has just crashed. H oh no, that's where we're at. This 138 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.200 is this is what's happening right now? Is uh is this this kind of 139 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:03.679 news happens and the nerds freak out? Myself included, uh so, yeah, 140 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:05.720 I think, you know, I'm trying to remember how it went down 141 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.440 with the switch. I think, you know, it was very similar. 142 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.679 And then and then I think they what they did is if my member is 143 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:13.799 correct, and Chap, feel free to hop in here and correct me. 144 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.440 When they did have the actual earnings call with investors, I think they did 145 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.559 mention the code name like the uh you know, Project NX or whatever they 146 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.279 called it. It was NX, but like Project NX or something like that, 147 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:30.759 and they didn't really provide much beyond that. That's what I expect to 148 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:33.960 be happening at this call is they'll be like, hey, yes, we 149 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.200 are working on Project blank, and we will talk talk about more and more 150 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.440 of that later. Here's what you should know otherwise though, in terms of, 151 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.039 hey, what's this transition going to be, like, here's the vague 152 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:46.399 ideas. What we're trying to do to make sure it's as smooth as possible. 153 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:52.399 Intend to switch online will be completely excuse me, We'll continue completely uninterrupted, 154 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.519 so you can expect those revenues to continue unabated from those from those kinds 155 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.120 of things. I think they'll talk about the busy, this optic side, 156 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.799 and they will be very vague about any specifics for this device except for a 157 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.399 code name and then maybe some allusion to some big, you know, new 158 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.240 new feature that they put on the side of the box that may or may 159 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.320 not matter in the end. And you know with with Nintendo, for these 160 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.679 big consoles they have, they always have something, and when it's like the 161 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.000 Wei, it's like, oh, the most controls were central to that thing. 162 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.320 It was super important. And when it was like the New three DS, 163 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.720 it was here's an analog nub that no one's ever gonna use. You 164 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.759 should buy this thing for that, which I did, and you know, 165 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.279 but they always have something. Maybe they allude to that, but probably not. 166 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.200 So Okay, So we get through, we get through this call, 167 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:45.320 and then we we expect the thing sometime next year. Maybe do you think 168 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:50.559 that means we get like a video teaser of this thing this summer? I 169 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.159 mean yeah, I mean one would think that we would get some sort of 170 00:11:54.279 --> 00:12:00.919 sample of I don't know what stuff is going to look like. It's so 171 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.039 interesting. Nintendo is so interesting because, as you point out, it's more 172 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:11.720 about feature innovation than it is about like keeping up graphically with what's going on 173 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:18.759 on PC, et cetera. So I don't know, maybe they tease a 174 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.480 Donkey Kong like we have it on a Donkey Kong in a while, you 175 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.919 know, So yeah, so we'll have news about that here in a little 176 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.080 bit. So yeah, yeah that maybe maybe Now I guess it's been so 177 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.320 long since that maybe they switched to something else. Either way, I think 178 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:41.519 this is like definitely going to kickstart a lot of we were already in Hey, 179 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.360 Nintendo switched to speculation mode. But there is a difference between like we 180 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.639 all expected to be happening and now Nintendo could be talking about at any moment. 181 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.799 There was there was no real chance, no real opportunity or likelihood that 182 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.279 Nintendo would have started talking about this thing before this moment, before they warn 183 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.120 their investors, Hey, we actually are now in that mode. Get ready 184 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.559 for it. This is like the starting gun. So now we are at 185 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.879 the point where it's like, okay, this thing probably is getting manufactured right 186 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:13.919 now, so leaks probably can be a little bit more trustworthy and probably come 187 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.399 a little bit more frequently. One of the reasons they're very likely talking about 188 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.720 this thing to investors because investors are going to start hearing about it. Nintendo's 189 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.720 like, here, just listen to us, we got some actual facts for 190 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.919 you. And then exactly and then you know, like they could drop a 191 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.320 video at any point this summer or later this year, whenever, but it's 192 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.240 like now it officially could happen, So it's it's worth getting excited about. 193 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.720 And I'm kind of I'm relieved because I think at a certain point, you 194 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.360 know, the switch. I am starting to feel nostalgic for that device, 195 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.960 where it's like I have kind of put it in the past a little bit 196 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.879 now at this point because I've just played all the games I wanted to play 197 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.120 on there, and I'm like, I'm ready for a new Nintendo device. 198 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.120 So it's exciting. Yeah yeah. I mean my cat's clearly excited about it 199 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.440 because he's in here and he's screaming about it. So we're we're ready Nintendo. 200 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:09.960 But I once again, it's like Nintendo has their their their uh pie 201 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.919 is in so many of its Yes, yeah, it's just like they Yeah, 202 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.720 they're there to be Nintendo and and be able to just kind of, 203 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:26.279 you know, really let stuff cook until it's perfect. Uh that's nice for 204 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.840 them, yep, really nice. Yeah, you know. And I'm gonna 205 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.360 bring this. Uh, let's just bring up this little thing on screen here 206 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.919 for everybody. Sure, let's see here. I got it right there. 207 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.279 There we go. Okay, now it's news assets and this is on the 208 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.919 Nintendo dot co dot JP investor relations page and again main dialogue topics the next 209 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:52.279 game console and business impact of a hardware transition. Now again, if this 210 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.159 is what they're saying here in this thing, it could be no more than 211 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.679 like that little thing there is a next game console, or even like they 212 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.080 just they like they just gesture at the idea that something will be happening, 213 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.360 and it doesn't have to be more than that either. So it's like, 214 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.120 you know, we're getting excited. We're starting to speculate in a big way. 215 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.279 It also, there's no guarantee that that's how it'll go down. It 216 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:15.879 could be very much like, yeah, of course there's going to be a 217 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.879 next generation, and that's the most they say about it. You although they 218 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.399 probably would still answer questions about like what does a transition look like? They 219 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.200 do say that, you know, a business impact of a hardware transition, 220 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.679 that's probably what they're most interested in talking to investors about. So yep, 221 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:35.039 we'll see how that goes down. All right, moving on here to the 222 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.720 hell of a story out of Arrowhead about Hell Divers too. Let's let's go 223 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.639 through this chronologically a little bit. So last week. Last week Hell Divers 224 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.440 two was hit with some some tough dudes for a lot of people, where 225 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:54.080 Arrowhead told told there's community that PlayStation was forcing them to add on PSN like 226 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.720 a PSN log in requirement for the game on PC. There was a huge 227 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.799 reaction to that, and that started with a bunch of negative review bombing on 228 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.120 Steam, to the point where the developers came out, We're like, holy 229 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.720 crap, this is nuts. We are talking to Sony. We'll see if 230 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.519 there's anything we can do. We're kind of basically they said, we're on 231 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:18.240 your side. So Hell Divers Do two devs apologize as it hits. As 232 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.320 it's hit with over one hundred thousand negative reviews. This is from Andy Robinson 233 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.600 at VGC. The developer of Hell Divers two, is apologized after fans barrage 234 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.519 the game's Steam page with negative negative reviews over news of a mandatory PlayStation account 235 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:36.120 requirement. On Friday, publisher Sony announced that from May thirtieth, the Steam 236 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.960 version of Hell Divers will require all players to sign in with a PlayStation network 237 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:44.200 account. This requirement was briefly present when Helldivers two launched, but it was 238 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.879 removed after the game's huge early success led to technical issues. Many PC players, 239 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.480 particularly those in countries where the service is not available, are clearly not 240 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:59.360 happy with the return of the PSN requirement, So this was like a weird 241 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.759 scenario, how Emma, because it was something that was required at one point, 242 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.000 they did mention it on their Steam page. It was something that you 243 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.160 could have expected to come back, and yet it has been months and it 244 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:12.160 wasn't there. The game clearly works. People are wondering, one, why 245 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.799 do I need this? And two, Hey, I'm in a country where 246 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.839 this is our PlayStation network is not available, so I can't even sign up 247 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.559 for it. So I'm going to lose access to this game that seems bananas 248 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.440 and that they're they're right, And so they just got slammed with negative reviews. 249 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.119 And I don't know if it was like really hurting the daily active users. 250 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.359 I was kind of paying attention to that a little bit. Seemed like 251 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.200 it might have been down a little bit weekend to weekend, like compared to 252 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.440 last weekend to this one. The number of players on Steam on the Steam 253 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.720 database like tracker, might have been down a little bit. But either way, 254 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.720 like clearly a massive backlash and this left them in a pretty tough space. 255 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:48.079 And you got to imagine, like at the studio, the are going 256 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.440 we told you, we told you, Sony, this was a bad idea, 257 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:53.079 but this is you know, Sony published this game, they probably got 258 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.880 to make that call. What do you think the conversations were like at that 259 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:03.039 point? And it's just wild. I mean, it's it's a clear misunderstanding 260 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:11.000 of online game play. You know. It's like if if your game is 261 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.599 available on Steam in regions wherein PSN is not available, then you are literally 262 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:21.440 cutting those players off. Uh. And so again it's like, I just 263 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.799 how did we even get there in the first you know what I mean, 264 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:27.960 like, if how can you add this requirement later? And as you mentioned 265 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.799 the fact that it was initially listed as it's something you were going to have 266 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:36.880 to do, but then it was functioning without doing that, and then coming 267 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:40.799 back around on it. It's just it was just a stupid move on Sony's 268 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.920 part. Yeah, and it's I think it's it's very easy to be like, 269 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.799 oh, that's nothing. People signed into a million games that that shouldn't 270 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.400 do much. But like seeing the headline, you know, and let's just 271 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.279 jump to the next one right now. Well that was too removed from Steam 272 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.839 in one hundred seventy seven countries. This is from Jonas Macki, a game 273 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.799 reactor. Everything was running smoothly for Hell Divers two, which set one record 274 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:08.400 after another for Sony on both PC and PlayStation. But for some reason, 275 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.160 Sony decided to shake things up and announced just before the weekend that a PSN 276 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:17.960 account would now be required to play on PC. The developer Arrowhead and Sony 277 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.279 said that it was a security issue, something that was widely panned by the 278 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.319 community. After all the security leagues that have hit Sony over the years, 279 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.359 and a use and you as a user road on the Steam forum and they 280 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:32.000 basically just document it, documented a timeline of all the times Sony has been 281 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.200 hacked over and over again, whether that was PlayStation Network or like the Sony 282 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.960 pictures hacks, whatever, it's like, don't come to us. This was 283 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.279 that was always a terrible thing to say, right because we know that that's 284 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.119 not really the motivation you're doing this, Because this was like, this is 285 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:51.440 already the seventh highest grossing PlayStation published game of all time, and you want 286 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.119 to have more control over how that's going to work and be able to funnel 287 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.799 more of that money towards you, And we get what's really happening here. 288 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.920 You want the data, and so just coming out and tell it and pping 289 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.839 on people and calling it like rain, it's just a bad move. And 290 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.240 then on top of that, it's a really a bad optics because Sony is 291 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.960 a company that is associated with getting hacked over and over again. Beside all 292 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.160 that one hundred and seventy seven countries. Really before I saw that, before 293 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.000 I realized just the extent of it, and it's like, you know, 294 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:21.400 you probably there probably is some like data. It's like, okay, well 295 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.720 you add up all those countries and the number of players there's don't even match 296 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.759 how many people are in playing America or something like that. I don't know 297 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.079 if that's the case, but even if that were the case, one hundred 298 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.799 and seventy seven countries, how can it possibly how could you possibly make this 299 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.480 move when it's like when it looks so bad like that? So they were 300 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:40.079 really getting panned at that point, right, Yeah. I mean it's just 301 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:48.960 such concrete data showing that you gave all these people access to this game, 302 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.880 and then because of the lack of availability of the PlayStation network, you are 303 00:20:53.119 --> 00:21:00.759 negatively impacting one hundred and seventy seven like that is It's not like, oh, 304 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.839 it was five or six countries, it's almost two hundred, right, 305 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.960 So yeah, it just it looks real bodad and it's not even the kind 306 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:14.279 of thing where it's people are like the backlash was happening and people and I 307 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:15.759 think a lot of times you go like and the people go, oh, 308 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.839 well this country can't play anymore. It's like, well, you never have 309 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.440 even thought about that country before in your life. Now you're just kind of 310 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.920 getting mad on their behalf. So you could backlash against this company making a 311 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.160 choice and making you sign into something you don't want to sign into. At 312 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:33.960 a certain point, at about like a couple dozen countries, it flips over 313 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.119 to being like, now this is just what's right. It's just right that 314 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.680 you don't do this move that you block all these people who have been playing 315 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.400 the game and have purchased the game and have spent money on the game in 316 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:47.400 all these countries, they should have every right to keep playing. So it's 317 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:51.279 like I think there was like some talk about, yeah, about like maybe 318 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.319 not require PSN in those countries and things like that. Throughout this entire time, 319 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:59.119 the studio and the CEO were sort of out there kind of like, 320 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.079 hey, we are continuing to talk to Sony. We hear you, and 321 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:06.240 we are trying to represent your interest when we have these conversations. So again 322 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:07.799 it seems like Sony was pushing for all this, and it goes back to 323 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:12.839 what you were saying, this misunderstanding of an audience to such a detrimental degree. 324 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.680 And really, I like we ever, we haven't really seen a back 325 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:21.799 question this severe for a move like what would otherwise feel that like this small 326 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.160 in a long time. But it's like this is such a popular game and 327 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.599 people feel such an ownership over it that they really let Sony have it, 328 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:33.799 right sure, And ultimately it's the ownership thing that is the reasoning behind Sony 329 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.279 wanting people to have to link their PSN accounts. They want that data, 330 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:47.240 they want to be able to claim those users because you know, PlayStation's entire 331 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:56.279 thing is their like first party partnerships that they have and those have if you 332 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.400 take for example, like the Final Fantasy of it all, those have not 333 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:03.279 been doing well financially, and granted, ultimately that is something that's going to 334 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.640 affect Square more than it affects Sony, but they do have that first party 335 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:11.839 partnership. For example, when I when we because we did a partnership with 336 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.720 Square for Final Fantasy seven Rebirth which was super fun. Please watch it if 337 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.079 you haven't. But the big thing we were pushing was Sony not Square, 338 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.640 because again we were featuring squares game. So this puts Sony in a position 339 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.200 wherein they can basically claim all of those hell Divers users, and they can 340 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:37.359 do that more effectively by forcing people to have those PSN logins. But obviously 341 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.640 that's a huge oversight because PSN isn't even available in a ton of the places 342 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.519 where people are playing this game. Yeah, and that, like there's like 343 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.519 something to be said for that. Why isn't PSN available in those countries? 344 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.319 I don't give it. I mean signing up for an account for PSN? 345 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.720 Why can't you just have that set up? I might haven't. Why hasn't 346 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.880 it been set up to this point? And how hard can it possibly be 347 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.200 the get set up so that this wasn't a problem in the first place. 348 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:06.880 Do that before you make this move, and then there's less argument, less 349 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:08.480 of a position that the community can have. You'd be like, well, 350 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.720 you just sign in. Now we'll get to like that's still a bad idea, 351 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.200 and we'll get to that. And here in a second, let's get 352 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:19.880 to the big twist Sony revokes widely despised Hell Divers two PSN linking policy. 353 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:25.880 This is from Nicole Carpenter at Polygon. In the days since Sony Interactive Entertainment 354 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.839 announced an unpopular Hell Divers two and PlayStation linking policy, players have been flooding 355 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.519 the game Steam page with negative reviews. By Sunday, more than two hundred 356 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:38.400 thousand of hell Divers two's two hundred and sixty six and twenty six reviews on 357 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:44.079 Steam were negative filed in the aftermath of the disastrous announcement, But the review 358 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.279 bombing worked. Sony heard hell Divers two players and announced Monday that it's no 359 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.079 longer requiring Steam players to link a PlayStation network account. Hell Divers fans, 360 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.160 We've heard your feedback on the hell Divers two account linking situation, Sony wrote 361 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.960 from the PlayStation Twitter account. The May sixth update, which would have required 362 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.119 Steam and PlayStation network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 363 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.559 thirtieth, will not be moving forward. Helldiver's two game director and Arrowhead Games 364 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:15.000 Studio CEO Johann Pilstatt added that he's impressed by the willpower of the hell Divers 365 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.279 two community. Over the weekend. Pilstatt, who is known for his transp 366 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.960 transparency on social media, has been updating players via Twitter that Sony was in 367 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.640 active conversation with Arrowhead over the policy, but they did that he didn't have 368 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.799 the final say. It's part of that tweet from Sony by the way, 369 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.279 they said, Hey, we're still figuring out this whole PC thing. We're 370 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.799 like, we're still figuring out this PC community thing. And I think that 371 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.599 is like, once again the lesson. Gamers are so loud, so vocal, 372 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.119 so savvy and so tapped in that you need to be very cautious about 373 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.799 how you approach them with something when you want them to change, when you 374 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:56.480 want to change their behavior, and we've learned it over and over again, 375 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.759 I think. But forcing them to do something is it can work, but 376 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.720 rarely is it done without consequences. And sometimes it doesn't work and it's this 377 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.240 bad and you have to change it by the end of the weekend, you 378 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.920 know, you said Friday, and by the other the week and you have 379 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:15.079 to change it. Yeah, and and ultimately the developer comes out of this 380 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.240 looking fine, oh yeah, you know, like it's Sony that looks like 381 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.440 it. It's here Tony hubers once again sort of like rearing its head in 382 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.240 a way where it's like people are like, what people, That's what people 383 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.519 are saying out there. People are saying on the street, what's going on 384 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.839 over its Sony? Well, you know they raising the price of PSN and 385 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.839 and and you know, adding all these tears that are confusing, and like 386 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:38.119 what was all those moves and all these stories about indie game developers not like 387 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:44.519 using the indie game portal on PlayStation and uh and then closing down Japan studios 388 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.039 and like there's like a series of things where you know, all these companies 389 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:51.720 have problems. Sony's at the highest profile, so when they make a mistake, 390 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.920 it's very very noticeable. But I think as people saying like what do 391 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.319 they do? They have their finger on the pulse. I think this was 392 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.000 one where I think their eyes, there's eyes just got as big as saucers. 393 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.960 They looked at the plate, saw the money and saw the data, 394 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.000 and we're like, no, we are getting in on that. Now. 395 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.119 You can force put people, You can force people to change their behavior by 396 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.759 forcing them and requiring them to sign in online. Bad idea. Someone chat 397 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:17.960 pointing out the obvious answer is you just give people a bonus when they sign 398 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.960 into place they should network, and they will that you lead them, you 399 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.240 don't push them. It's that simple. Yeah, we are all buying that, 400 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:32.039 we're not all buying. I have a Digital X or a Digital PS 401 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.359 five and an Xbox Series S. And when they release new consoles, if 402 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.440 they don't have a disk drive, I am going to buy them. At 403 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.799 this point because they slowly shifted me to all digital despite the beginning of the 404 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.920 Xbox one generation. Everyone freaking out about them trying to make us go all 405 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.119 digital because they tried to force us at that point and I was among the 406 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.640 people complaining. And now they've like led me to this place where it's more 407 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.920 convenient and I'm happy with it. And now I've made the choice myself and 408 00:27:55.960 --> 00:28:00.480 they won in the end. That's the way you do it. Yeah, 409 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:08.480 well again you They basically came out on hell divers and said, oh uh, 410 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.640 you need to log into your PSN account. Why, oh, just 411 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.000 because. But as you say, if you give them a nice reason to 412 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.079 do it, your winship says, jingle, nice set of keys above me. 413 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.920 That's all as It's all I need. It's hard, very simple. 414 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:30.319 Yeah. In the end, I think that this will be studied. This 415 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.880 is a moment in gaming where it's like boy, wow, that got out 416 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.559 of hand fast, and it's a reminder of like why gaming is such a 417 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:45.759 powerful marketplace because you don't get this kind of reaction from like an unhealthy place 418 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.039 where people are sort of like not spending much time or thinking about it or 419 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.359 not spending their money. The people who are in gaming are paying a lot 420 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.160 of attention, and that means they're probably spending a lot of extra money and 421 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:02.039 that's why they feel I'm so invested in feel that ownership over it, and 422 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.160 there's power there that is that's the kind of fuel that can power these massive 423 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.880 corporations that want to make these massive games. You could do that and you 424 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:14.279 could succeed because of the passion of these of this community. But then that 425 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.359 passion can get turned against you if you get a little bit greedy, if 426 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.839 you reach a little bit too far. And I think you know, it 427 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:22.799 keeps these companies in check and I'm always like appreciative of that, like, 428 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.880 hey, yes, well done. The community spoke up and they were able 429 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.839 to get the community or get the big corporation to back down, and hey, 430 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.359 at the end of the day, this is the best case scenario that 431 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.319 it goes back to be in the way it was because that worked just fine. 432 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:38.000 And if they want now, if they want to try to do something 433 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.720 again, they will have to incentivize. And then if they give me a 434 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.279 couple bucks in premium currency, I will sign in and with my ps and 435 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.599 account. No problem, yes, yes, no problem, Yes, give 436 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.359 me a good reason other than you just have to. The kappa of this 437 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:57.400 story is hell Divers two. Devs are considering turning the games review bombing graph 438 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:03.119 into a cape from Kyle Knight at Dual Shockers. Arrowhead CEO John Pilstett has 439 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.640 said that the studio is considering making Hell Divers twos or hell Divers twos Negatives 440 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.960 or negative review Graph into an end game cape, thus immortalizing the great Steam 441 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:17.319 in PSN account linking fiasco forever. Earlier today, PlayStation announced they would be 442 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.440 reversing the decision to force PC players to link their Steam in PSN accounts in 443 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:26.000 order to play Hell Divers two. The announcement came from Arrowhead's hit live service 444 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.640 game win. The hit game was barraged with negative reviews over the weekend, 445 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.839 basically they made that change, but they showed out like a mock up of 446 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.119 this cape, which you know, if you don't know, players and hell 447 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.400 Divers two can wear cosmetics including a helmet and armor and a cape, and 448 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:47.039 the cape just had the red the gigantic red lines that the show up on 449 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.079 a Steam review page when it's like, okay, here's the green graph going 450 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:52.559 up, and if you look at the bonopart, here's the negative ones, 451 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.680 and the last several days it was just these massive red lines all going down 452 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.119 until Monday, where it's like, here's just a few gative reviews, and 453 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.960 you could just it was actually a pretty cool design, and apparently they're going 454 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.839 to put it in the game, and I think that's a that's a great 455 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:11.079 idea. Yeah. I think that the other side of this is you can 456 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:17.000 sort of ride the bucking bowl of a scenario like this as a CEO of 457 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.039 one of these companies, if you actually are representing the gamers' interests, if 458 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.680 you if your community is your number one concern the way it seemed like it 459 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.680 was for Pilstet throughout this entire scenario, you can kind of tweet through it. 460 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.640 You can be out there like talking it out and then at the end 461 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.519 coming out looking like a kind of like a slick superhero and being like, 462 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.519 wasn't that Like, wasn't that rowdy? Wasn't that fun? Let's go immoralize 463 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.000 that as an item of the game and get back to the game. It's 464 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.240 inspiring a little bit. I don't know, I totally agree with you. 465 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:53.680 Yeah. Again, look the way that the people got in there to make 466 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.839 their voices heard, and yeah, unfortunately it had to come through review bombing, 467 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.799 but you know what it got people's attention. Uh, it got Sony 468 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:09.039 to retract their dumb policy, and ultimately, as you say, the devs 469 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:19.000 come out looking good and they're able to embrace this as something that ultimately it's 470 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.359 kind of funny. Yep. Yeah, you know, like it's the kind 471 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:28.079 of thing where yeah, did they Uh, it's going to be something they 472 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.319 look back at and laugh at. You're right, that's that's very cool and 473 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.000 yeah, you know, and Sony, what they're going to learn from this 474 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:39.880 is probably either you have to be Ticketmaster or you have to be I beloved. 475 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.359 Like Ticketmaster exists so that they can charge all these extra fees and everyone 476 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:46.759 hates everyone hates them instead of the bands. You know, it's like, 477 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.839 yes, they we're going to go to this concert, like, oh fuck 478 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.680 tick Master. How much they're charging the extra and so that turns out a 479 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:53.920 lot of money. It kind of still finds its way to all these other 480 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.359 entities that they're involved, but you don't think of them. You get mad 481 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.599 at Ticketmaster, and Sony clearly doesn't want to be like Ticketmaster. They want 482 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.079 they need that positive a feeling towards them still, so it's like, well, 483 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.640 then you can't mess around. You need to understand what you're doing before 484 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.920 you do it. Speaking up Ticketmaster, don't forget to get tickets too, 485 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:19.240 That's right. Giant Bomb Live in Los Angeles Sunday, the ninth of June. 486 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.640 Yeah, definitely pick up those tickets as immediately. Looking forward to it 487 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.720 everybody. I think we'll have some announcements about some big guests this week. 488 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.319 I was able to lock some folks down. Yeah, we're gonna align on 489 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.319 that. I was told me, I need to align on everything, and 490 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.640 then once we do, I'll tell everybody what's going on. All right, 491 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:39.359 let's take a quick break. When we get back. We got some more 492 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:44.200 stories, including one more about linking your PSN account at this time, it's 493 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.839 good news. And then what's going on with Vicarious Visions and Donkey Kong? 494 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:59.440 Right after this? All right, we are back and ask promised one more 495 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.920 PSN account linking story, this time for Ghost of Sushima on PC. It 496 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:08.039 is not going to require that account linking on Steam. This is from Marcus 497 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.920 Hrsila at game Reactor. Last weekend was wild for hell Divers two. Sony 498 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.960 decided that starting today May six it would have been mandatory for players to link 499 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.519 Steam in PlayStation Network accounts in order to play Arrowhead Game Studios hell Divers two. 500 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.679 For current players, this demand would have started on May thirtieth. People 501 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.800 online went berserk, and in the end, the mandatory link between Steam and 502 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.760 PlayStation Network for hell Divers two was will not move forward. Game Reactor recently 503 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.039 reported about this extensively. So if this was the intention of parrel Divers two 504 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.599 on Steam, how about Ghost of Sushima. Sucker Punches, a Samurai action 505 00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.360 game, is coming to PC on May sixteenth, twenty twenty four, but 506 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.559 it does not require linking your Steam account to your PSN account in order to 507 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.280 play, and that's just for the single player to be clear, the single 508 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.400 player will not require that in any way. Now it's the main part of 509 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.159 the game. There is that Legends cooperative online mode, however, and that 510 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.400 is going to require a ps account, So I guess, I mean, 511 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.719 you know, I guess as long as they're doing it from the beginning, 512 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.159 they're probably going to be able to get away with it a little bit easier 513 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.519 there. Yeah, But also there is this massive single player portion that most 514 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.119 people are going to come to the game for, so they probably won't even 515 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.760 think about log and then like signing into their PSN account until they maybe try 516 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.119 Legends eventually. So I think this is not going to be a similar scenario 517 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.719 at all, right, absolutely not. Yeah, it's a This Ghost of 518 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:32.000 Sushima is a perfect example of what PlayStation does, which is the single player 519 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:38.400 epic story experience, and that's what this game primarily is. So again, 520 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:44.599 you are coming to this game to experience the story on your own, not 521 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:49.159 to participate in some kind of online gameplay. So yeah, okay, cool, 522 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.159 some people will play this online, and if you have to link your 523 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.800 PlayStation account from the beginning, and they don't have all kinds of login issues 524 00:35:54.840 --> 00:36:00.639 forcing people to forcing them to basically resind that at launch then yeah, I 525 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.639 mean this is I this is not going to be another Hell Divers scenario. 526 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.719 Yep. And it's uh. And it's very clear at this point because they 527 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.519 have had it's like so visible. Yeah, for sure. And I think 528 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.239 at the end of the day, signing a PSM is never going to be 529 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.320 an issue for me personally. It wasn't an issue for me when this hel 530 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.719 when the Hell Diver's two story broke, I'm like, yeah, I just 531 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.079 cannot personally care about it because that's something I do for all these different games. 532 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.840 I don't even think about it anymore. It is like a one button 533 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:31.119 thing because I have signed into so many of these outside accounts previously, and 534 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.639 that stuff is saved through Steam, so I just hit one button. It's 535 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.079 like, yeah, you're logged in. So I just I just couldn't care. 536 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.000 It was like when I saw that was one hundred and seventy seven countries, 537 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.000 that's what it clipped over, Like that seems fucking insane, what are 538 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.760 we doing here? Then you get the Ghost of Sushima and they're like, 539 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.400 yeah, you'll be able to play most of what you want to play there 540 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.360 without any account linking and then this online feature that was always a bonus for 541 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.719 this game plays require it whatever I'm back to kind of like, okay, 542 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.320 fair enough, I mean, what does that mean for those that one hundred 543 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.880 and seventy seven countries for the Legends online multiplayer mode in Ghost of the Sushima, 544 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.079 Well, now they know, don't buy it for that because they're well 545 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.400 aware. But also hopefully Sony just launches PSN in those countries so people could 546 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.119 just lug in and play that if they want. Yeah, all right. 547 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:22.079 Vicarious Visions was making a three D Donkey Kong platformer game. This is her 548 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.320 mid Nintendo news. The name Donkey Kong Freedom may not ring a bell to 549 00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.599 Nintendo fans, but that is because this was the code name for a three 550 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.920 D platformer Donkey Kong game that unfortunately got scrapped years ago. In fact, 551 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.679 the only reason we even know about the game is due to a report by 552 00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.199 dk Vine, as well as further findings uncovered by a new did You Know 553 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:44.679 Gaming video. The game was being developed by Vicarious Visions, which has since 554 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.840 been renamed to Blizzard Albany. Because there's no justice in the world for the 555 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.320 Nintendo Switch, it was going to take a place on a large open island, 556 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.599 and its gameplay would emphasize the kinetic energy of the Donkey Kong country games. 557 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.840 But in three D Donkey Kong would slide down vine and ropes on his 558 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.480 feet. Kong would have would also have had banana appeals as makeshift shoes. 559 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.639 This was in response to feedback from Mia Moto, who was concerned about Donkey 560 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:14.039 Kong getting rope burns on his feet, because of course he is. Meanwhile, 561 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.599 Donkey Kong himself would have had his own original look with bigger arms and 562 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.559 smaller legs. The game story would have evolved around around a factory opened on 563 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.079 Donkey Kong Island, basically damming the river and causing problems with their bananas. 564 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.880 As you can imagine, that would have upset the conks. Apparently this got 565 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.079 shut down because Activision lost interest or something like that. You know, this 566 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.800 was years and years ago, and see if the Activisions, like you know, 567 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.679 working with Nintendo on one of their games. Sure that might be okay, 568 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:44.480 but you know what's better, you should be working on more Call of 569 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.760 Duty games. Maybe we'll let you do this Tony Hawk thing, but definitely 570 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:51.519 get back to work on Call of Duty. You know now Vicario Stations didn't 571 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.119 end up going to work on call of duty. They got subsumed into Blizzard 572 00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:01.480 instead and basically made Diablo for like they were like very key to that process. 573 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.920 Yeah, and I get I get that Diablo is very important to Activision 574 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.840 and Blizzard. I said, man, I really wish we would have got 575 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.559 this. I like Vicarious divisional bummer. Yeah, and I you know, 576 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:22.559 I think that Donkey Kong works well as a three D platformer. The story 577 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.440 about the Donkey Kong needs to put bananas on his feet so he doesn't get 578 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.800 rope and is adorable. Also, yeah, I love that, and I 579 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:37.719 like, you know, this is a this is a good uh negative effects 580 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:45.519 of industrialization on the environment story, which with me. Yeah, So I 581 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.360 don't know, Donkey Kong deserves a good game and it sounds like there was 582 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.840 a lot of potential here. So this is a huge bummer. I'm happy 583 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.639 that this team had a lot of success with Diabolo for because again, that 584 00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:01.639 is a huge, huge, definitely part of the act to Blizz model and 585 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.039 back it was good. So I think this game probably would have been good. 586 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.360 I don't know, yep, I was you know, there has always 587 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.239 been rumors for the last couple of years that there was a Donkey Kong game 588 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.360 in the works that probably wasn't this because this seems like this was scrapped a 589 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.639 long time ago, but the Nintendo definitely seems interested in doing something with Donkey 590 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.840 Kong. I think this would have been a fantastic fit. And really what 591 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.239 it bums me out is at this point, Okay, so Vicarious Visions is 592 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.639 now just Blizzard, and it is probably supporting Diablo and maybe going to work 593 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.440 on some other stuff, but it's going to be Blizzard stuff for sure. 594 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.599 I don't think that team gets extracted back out to like become Vicarious Visions ever 595 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:42.280 again. But you know the reason that bums me honest, like, man, 596 00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.599 now Microsoft owns the Vicarious Visions and Activision, and they could have had 597 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.800 a Vicarious Visions that was making more Tony Hawk gams, which we'll talk about 598 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.199 in a second, and then working on some of these three D platformers for 599 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.239 a lot of the franchises that Microsoft owns, you know, Crash and Spiro 600 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.480 and Bancho Kazuoi and all that stuff would have been exumping. Like now that 601 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.599 team can't even work on that stuff, and Toyster Bob is external that they 602 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.960 were working on something as well. I like three D platformers a ton and 603 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.760 it's like, man, just a couple more of those every generation at this 604 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.199 point, not even every now, every generation. I would really appreciate that. 605 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.559 I'm just thinking about. I feel like one of the best three D 606 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.559 platformers in recent years is Astro's Play, you know what I mean. Like, 607 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:30.719 there's just like there's so much potential for the three D platformer to have 608 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.679 a big comeback, and Donkey Kong feels like such a good fit for it. 609 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.840 So this is yeah, it's it's sad. It's a bummer, even 610 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:49.519 more sad. Activision rejected to pro Skaters four story in favor of supplementary call 611 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.559 of duty work. It is claimed this is from Jordan Miller at VGC. 612 00:41:53.239 --> 00:42:00.000 Activision reportedly rejected a pitch for Tony Hawk's three plus four, referring Vicarious Vision 613 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.800 to work as a preferring excuse me, Vicarious Visions to work as a call 614 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.559 of duty support studio. In a new video from Video Gamer Store and Liam 615 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.280 Robertson, it's claimed that, following the huge success of the first remake, 616 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.199 a pitch for a second remake collection was created. Initially, the first remake, 617 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.159 Tonyaks pro Skater one plus two, was planned to include three plus four 618 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.000 as well as the first game. Instead, we settled on adding some handling 619 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.760 features from the later games to reflect the way people remember the old Tonyaks pro 620 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.360 Skater games. The improvements from three seemed to bleed into people's memories of the 621 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.000 first two, claimed one Vicarious Vision source to Robertson. Eventually it became clear 622 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.840 that we didn't have time for more than one plus two, so the idea 623 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.639 that we'd continue on and release a three plus four in some fashion was on 624 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:45.000 the table. A pitch for Tonyak's three plus four was presented to Activision following 625 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.039 the commercial and critical success of the first remake. It's claimed, however, 626 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.639 this was declined, and let's just put that in perspective. The commercial and 627 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.119 critical critical success, it was critically lauded one of the better reviewed games of 628 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.880 that year. It is also the best sound Tony Hawk game ever made, 629 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:07.280 a franchise that has always sold very well. This is infuriating. Yeah, 630 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.559 chat is really popping off, So shout out to them saying we've got no 631 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.199 choice now but to put Cranky Kong and Tony Hawk in Call of Duty. 632 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.039 Let's go. That's clearly yeah, that's clearly Lee, that's the that's the 633 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.320 only way we get them. So or at least at least in Call of 634 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:29.599 Duty. Give us some good uh, like Tony Hawk's skate jams, like 635 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.440 the Tony Hawk's soundtracks. We're working. Yeah, you know, yeah, 636 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.400 and that's all. The music isn't good until it's in the Tony Hawk game. 637 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:40.599 It's been my opinion for a very long time. Uh yeah it you 638 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:46.159 know, Okay, I've heard rumors and this is unsubstantiated that the tonyok something 639 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.920 could still happen. Uh, But at this point, it's like, who 640 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.199 would make it? Because I don't I don't think Blizzard. All the knee 641 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.800 slash kery decisions is going to be taken away off the Blizzard stuff to work 642 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.519 on it. So, you know, do they go back to that? 643 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.719 Who did tonyaks pro Skater five and Tony I don't remember the name of the 644 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.519 motor Robo or something like that. It's going to go back to that because 645 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.280 that's not great. You know. Note maybe that studio has improved their ability 646 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.320 to make Call of Duty, but like The point is is like we wanted 647 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.159 three plus four from Vicarious Visions. Yeah, and them just like farting now 648 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.440 to three plus four h as a name, but it doesn't have the same 649 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.000 spirit and energy and high quality behind it. That would be very troublesome. 650 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.639 And concerning Vicarious Visions has always been involved with with Tony Hawk. They you 651 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.440 know, they weren't the original developers, but they were the original port studio 652 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.480 and they made great versions of it on Game Boy Advance. And so when 653 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.920 they came back and took over Tony Oaks Pro Skater one plus two and made 654 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.480 it feel like Tony Hawk again, it was very It wasn't surprising because they 655 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.239 were like, we can make this game feel like Tony Hawk on a game 656 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.920 Boy Advance, but let you know, be able to make this work in 657 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.119 the future. So it's like just having some studio come in and make a 658 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.480 Tony Hawk game. I don't know what that looks like. Again, that's 659 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.360 unsubstantiated and probably a long ways off. So I was trying to think the 660 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:10.679 last game that I skateboarded in, and it was that game Anna Purna published 661 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.760 called Thirsty Suitors. There was a skateboarding portion of that game. Yeah, 662 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:22.960 And so I'm like, maybe there was skateboarding and there was like insult battling. 663 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.960 So I don't know, maybe that's maybe that's where we need to go. 664 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.119 Maybe that's where we need to go. Last game I skateboarded in was 665 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.519 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater one plus two. Yesterday. Yesterday, I was playing 666 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.199 that game. I was I finished, What did I finished? I was 667 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:38.360 playing a game and I finished it, and then I was like, ah, 668 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.800 I should play something else, and I couldn't decide, So I do 669 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:46.239 what I always do in that situation and play Tony Hawk. Yeah. Research 670 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:51.599 firm reveals the top grossing PC and console games of Q one four. This 671 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.400 is from Tom Ivan at VGC Research firm. Firm New Zoo has revealed what 672 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.239 it's what it's claimed were the top grossing console and PC games in the first 673 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.639 quarter of twenty twenty four. Its data covers premium and in game spending across 674 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.800 the United States and last year's five biggest European game markets, the UK, 675 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:13.519 Germany, France, Spain, and Italy. Fortnite led the way across all 676 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.440 tracked markets, accounting for over ten percent of total revenue in the first three 677 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.000 months of the year. According to new Zoo, that's for all games apparently, 678 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.079 which is just nuts. EA Sports FC twenty four was Europe's highest grossing 679 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:30.199 title. It came in at number two. Yeah Yeah, Europe's highest grossing 680 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.360 title. It came in number two worldwide, generating eight point three percent of 681 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.519 total revenue. Other top ranking games include Helldivers two at number three, Call 682 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.480 of Duty HQ, which is all the Call of Duty games at number four, 683 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.840 and NBA two K twenty four at number five. Madden NFL twenty four 684 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.960 came in at number six, followed by Dragons Dogma two, Pow World Invalorant. 685 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.320 Tom Clancy's Rainbow six Siege, which ranked at number ten, accounted for 686 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.840 one point six percent of the total revenue. Fortnite was the leading console game 687 00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.440 by cumulative revenue in the first quarter of the year, while Held Divers two 688 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.960 was the top PC game, ahead of Power World. According to new Zoo, 689 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.800 the global games market generated and estimated one hundred and eighty four billion dollars 690 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.599 in twenty twenty three, representing eight point six percent increase over twenty twenty two, 691 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:15.719 which itself was down five percent year on year. It expects the game 692 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.039 market to generate revenues at one hundred and eighty nine point three billion in twenty 693 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.800 twenty four, and for the figure to grow to two hundred and five point 694 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.480 seven billion in twenty twenty six, So they're still expecting quite a bit of 695 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.000 growth over the next couple of years, more next year than this year though 696 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.719 this you know, once again, Emma is the recognizable names, mostly at 697 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.239 the top. But it is interesting to see Power World and Hell Divers be 698 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.039 able to like crack their way in there a little bit, right. That's 699 00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.920 like spending on the games to purchase those games, which is a big push 700 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.960 for those games, but then also end game you know, purchasing especially for 701 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.440 Hell Divers too, which seems to be doing just well with that stuff. 702 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.280 Do you think that that stagnation is holding back game and do you think that 703 00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.400 it's stagnate or do you think, well, you know, you can't do 704 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.480 anything about four Night, but maybe it's still worth getting into that top five, 705 00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.199 sixth, seventh slot and that you'll make plenty of money that way. 706 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.480 Yeah. I gosh, it is so funny though when I read these things 707 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.760 and I go, am I a gamer? Like, I don't I don't 708 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:20.280 play any of these pan that's just not my jam at all. Yeah. 709 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.960 I think more of what it is is that it's like I would I would 710 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:29.880 prefer people to branch out in what they're playing, you know. Yeah, 711 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.800 I think that's I look at this and I and that's why it makes me 712 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:39.079 happy to see things like hell Divers in Power World making a dent. Yep. 713 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.280 Yeah, it's and it's uh, it's kind of thing where those games 714 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.760 both have upfront costs. A lot of these other games are are free to 715 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:51.719 play portions, and it's say, Okay, some people are still buying games 716 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.000 when they come out to play, but that's the reason why they keep going 717 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.400 with these free to play games. No risk, Yeah, just play that. 718 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.440 Yeah yeah yeah, all right, last story here. Madori, who's 719 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:06.920 a leaker of a lot of Sega and Atlas stuff, says Sonic Rumble will 720 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.719 be officially announced soon. This is where my Nintendo News proven. Sega Atlas 721 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:16.239 leaker Midori has stated on social media platforms platform Twitter that the Sonic themed Fall 722 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.960 Guys inspired party game Sonic Rumble for iOS and Android will be officially unveiled soon. 723 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.679 Footage of Sonic Rumble, previously called Sonic Toys Party leaked a month ago 724 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.079 and looks as you would expect from Sonic Party title and includes a number of 725 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.000 returning classic characters. Sega has yet to confirm the existence of Sonic Rumble, 726 00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.800 but Madori says that that will soon change. I wonder where that would show 727 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.159 up, Like I'm legit wondering where that would show up. It's like it's 728 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.519 a mobile game, so I don't know. I guess that's kind of thing 729 00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.159 where maybe it could pop up at like summer game fests though even if it's 730 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.960 a mobile totally yeah. I mean they did definitely show off some mobile titles 731 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.039 at Summer Games Fust last year. I got to play like the final Fantasy 732 00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:01.079 seven mobile ever crisis, right, gotcha? Yeah? Never crisis. Yeah. 733 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:10.400 Look, I think mobile gaming is very legitimate to me. Maybe other 734 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:16.599 people are more mobile gamers than I am and can totally disagree with this statement. 735 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:22.440 But the thing about Fall, guys is it's goofy ass platforming, and 736 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:28.079 I feel like I need a controller in my hand for that. So I 737 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:32.599 just, you know, like I just am like why I understand from an 738 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:39.440 accessibility standpoint why this is a mobile game, but isn't platforming on a mobile 739 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.239 device really frustrating? Not for kids, apparently. I guess you're right. 740 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:50.119 I guess you're right. Yeah, but I'm with I mean, I wish 741 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.440 they would just have it ready for everything. Sure, it could be on 742 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.599 mobile, but at least Switch. At least I have it ready for Switch 743 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.679 as well. I gotta say, like, like, I really like the 744 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.920 idea of a Sonic Fall Guys party game. That sounds great to me. 745 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.880 I don't care. I've played an I played a ton of Fall Guys. 746 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.119 I'm more excited about this than I would be for like a Sonic Superstars two 747 00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:13.039 platformer. No, yeah, give me, give me the party game, 748 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.039 because you know, if that's silly and weird and has like if like plays 749 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.320 oddly, that could be part of the fun, right, and so but 750 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.000 we'll see. I'm like not really get my hopes up too high, because 751 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.079 I think if they really believed in this game, it wouldn't just be a 752 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:31.920 mobile game, it would be on console as well. And it's like, 753 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.920 you know they have like, oh, well, there's an endless ceiling how 754 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:37.239 much money they can make from one of these mobile games. It's like, 755 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.320 I think they've done this dance enough times to know that no Sonic mobile game 756 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.480 is going to be like Pokemon Go. They put tons of those. They 757 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.159 make some money. I'm sure they do fine, but they aren't making a 758 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.800 billion dollars a year like Monopoly Go or whatever it is. You know, 759 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.920 they're probably making somewhere between a couple of million to tens of millions of dollars 760 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.119 a year, and that's that's great. Maybe more than that, I could 761 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.360 be wrong, but not not a billion dollars per year. So it's like, 762 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.719 okay, then, just you can make a version for consoles as well. 763 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.480 Like I really, I am very excited about this Star Wars Hunters. 764 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.760 It's very excited. Maybe overstating it. I'm somewhat excited about the Star Wars 765 00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.159 Hunters game from Zinga that's a online shooter because it's coming out on mobile and 766 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.800 Switch on the same day, and I love that all played on Switch. 767 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.239 That's great. Download it for free. Yeah, that sounds fantastic. I 768 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:28.880 wish that was happening with this as well, but as I probably would want, 769 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.119 like maybe a two attach a controller to a phone, but I'm not 770 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:36.320 actually gonna do no, no, there's an extra step involved in that that 771 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.880 wouldn't be involved if I could just play it on Switch, which is the 772 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:44.400 place, I mean, Switches, the home of Mario the you know, 773 00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:50.920 the gold standard for platforming. So why don't we just also put I think, 774 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:58.320 for me, as a Sega Genesis kid and as somebody who spent many 775 00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.559 many hours playing Sonic Adventure Sonic Adventure two on the Dreamcast, I just think 776 00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.599 that Sonic deserves better than a mobile game. And again, nothing wrong with 777 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.440 mobile games, I just don't think that's where Sonic is meant to be. 778 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.599 Yep. Yeah, and I like Sonic Dash and all those things. I 779 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.159 see them, I'm like Macmatt Noise. Mostly I'm like, eah, not 780 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.239 for me, but we'll see. There probably could be like a Sonic event 781 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.760 here coming soon. I wouldn't be surprised if they have one of those for 782 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.719 the summer. They tend to have those every once in a while and then 783 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.719 announce a bunch of stuff, including like TV shows and merchandise. I think 784 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.440 there was one year where they had one and they had the Sonic bling like 785 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:45.360 the like the diamond crusted like Sonic like necklaces. So yeah, maybe we'll 786 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.280 get more of those. I don't know the ice. That's right, Yes, 787 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.440 yes, all right, that does it for the news. I got 788 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.920 a pull question. I'll get that set up right now. Actually, here 789 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:59.480 it is. Let's do this. I asked for your help selecting which shirt 790 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.039 you would want to get from the seven eleven Tetris event, and you all 791 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.960 went with option three, the one that says Tetris, Tetris, Tetris, 792 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:12.039 Tetris, Tetris, Tetris Speedway, the gas station chain, which hey, 793 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.800 I did get this, so don't worry. It's on its way. I 794 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:19.039 think that's right. Did you see these things that's seven eleven's like selling. 795 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.800 And then they have a bunch of shirts that have seven eleven. Get these 796 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.800 at a seven eleven to be able to get some of them. Yes, 797 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.559 they have it on the seven eleven has their online store for apparel. Of 798 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:35.599 course. Well I'm gonna go on hunt for Tetris t shirts at seven eleven. 799 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.559 Yeah, I have a speedway near me and I haven't seen the speedway 800 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.480 shirt, but I'll try. I'll check out some more seven eleven see if 801 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:44.800 I can find it. But either way, they're selling a handheld that plays 802 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.880 Tetris. It looks like a Slurpy cup and a bunch of these shirts, 803 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.800 and so I got a bunch of the shirts. Oh the other options was 804 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.280 thirty percent for the one that has the seven eleven logo going down a tetris 805 00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.880 well, and then twenty two percent said the one that I think is like 806 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.000 the tech one, which is why I think I like it a lot as 807 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.840 well. No, that's why I want that one. Yes, it's like 808 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.880 exactly what you want from something like that. All the tetris piece is flying 809 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.719 at the screen says seven eleven at the top of tetras underneath that, and 810 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:15.199 then I'm a slurpy a pizza of slice of hot dog. I got big 811 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.159 Gulf so stupid. Really, I really really love that shirt, and I'm 812 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.159 getting that one too, so it doesn't matter. There we go. All 813 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.079 right. That was the poll question. Thank you everybody for your responses. 814 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:30.039 One point four thousand people voting my apparel selection. I appreciate that. I 815 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.679 got a new pole question coming up in a second. Before we get to 816 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.000 that, though, Emma, why don't you tell people where they can find 817 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:37.719 you on the internet what you have going on? All that good stuff? 818 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:44.360 Oh yes, well I'm at Emma Fife everywhere the m fifes are sold, 819 00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.719 and there's three total fs in my last name. That's f y f f 820 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.199 E. It's an unusual smelling of Fife, but it is the way we 821 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:59.360 smell my name. And also right now, if you are you know, 822 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:06.360 just half than to be browsing any of the wikis over on fandom, you 823 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:13.320 might see me in a video talking about wikisats because I like that stuff and 824 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.679 I'm very nerdy about it. Uh yeah, so I'm doing that. I'm 825 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.840 doing this show most mondays. Uh yeah, just freaking out out in the 826 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:29.280 world doing doing stuff. And I don't really like to use social media very 827 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.559 much. So just, uh, you know, catch me in the Giant 828 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:38.719 Bomb discord and come see our live show on the ninth of June. Uh, 829 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.559 come see it for nothing else other than the stupendous amount of work that 830 00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.039 Emma has done on it, the absolutely astonishing amount of work. So you 831 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.480 can she can have some of the fruits for labor shown off there that way, 832 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.679 we would appreciate that. Uh. Those tickets again are on sale now. 833 00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:58.440 You can find out the details by going to give bomb dot com. 834 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.000 We got them all up there, all right, new pole question. Let's 835 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.679 see, I was gonna say Yeah. Are you interested in Sonic Rumble, 836 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.800 which is the mobile fall Guys clone? Yes or no? I'm just curious. 837 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:12.960 Talk about it on a game of Mornings on Giant Bomb on Wednesday. 838 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.800 Speaking to Giant Bomb Tomorrow's the BombCast. We'll have a lot to talk about 839 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:22.320 there. Let's see that later this week, I will be getting back into 840 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:28.559 Dike Katana Daika greba excuse me? Or did I say did I say the 841 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:30.880 one that Dan likes? Never mind, I'll go with yeah, Dakah graba 842 00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.360 uh uh. And then we'll have you, you know, normal stuff upf 843 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.480 a voicemail dump truck. I think it's a BCR week look out for all 844 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:42.400 the normal stuff. I'll probably play more fall Out New Vegas. Been really 845 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.519 enjoying that people seem to be enjoying watching me play it, even though I'm 846 00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.679 I'm killing all their favorite characters. It's going really bad for all their favorites. 847 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:57.559 Look, honestly, it's it's the favorite characters problem for doing you wrong 848 00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.480 now, Like couldn't take a joke, and really I didn't even care. 849 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:07.719 He fell down. He felt sometimes people will die and they fall through a 850 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:12.400 floor and never to be seen again. He fell through some dinosaur teeth. 851 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.119 It's we felt down after I shot him whatever. He fell down though. 852 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.519 It's nice. That's that's what matters, all right. Uh See, I 853 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:22.519 think that's I think that's gonna do it. Emma, thank you so much 854 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.239 for spinning today talk with me about video games. I really appreciate it. 855 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:29.079 Thanks for having me, Thank you all for watching. You are the best 856 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:31.440 audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take care 857 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:36.360 of yourself and goodbye and check out Blessings Playing