On location and driven by It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello
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Victor Chrysler Dodge Cheep Ram on Route ninety six, Victor, where you never
know who you're gonna run into. All of a sudden, there's this handsome
face comes out of the crowd. It's Brian Gionta. And I every time
I think I see Brian Gionta, I always want to ask, like,
do you do you ever wake up in the morning and go what am I
gonna do that? Well, I got three kids, so that pretty much
dictates my schedule, But yeah, I do. I love being retired.
I have no problem with the ease of life that it comes with. But
I'm good. You know you don't miss any of it? Well, I
miss playing, Yeah, I missed playing. I don't miss the grind of
it. I don't miss the travel. I don't miss the way my body
felt. Yeah, things like that, And I like being on my own
schedule. Now we're up on the lake and you can. We got a
surfboat, so kids are surfing and I'm surfing like that's the summertime. And
then I love it. I love watching my kids grow and go through what
they're loving doing. So I'm good. Yeah, And no, are you
coaching still with them at all? Or I coach my boys. So my
oldest is eighteen, my youngest is eleven, So I coached both their team's
assistant coach and see, that would be intimidating to me if I were the
head coach. I'm not kidding because you I mean think about like when you
look at American sports, right or sports that are playing in America at a
high level. We've got Major League Baseball, We've got the NFL, We've
got the NHL, but the NHL out of all those, and I know
the NBGA to some degree now is becoming more global, but hockey's global.
And you were playing against the best in the world, so you're really one
of the best in the world when it comes to hockey. And now do
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I'm the Gudea along that would be
intimidating. Yeah, I've coached with some good guys. So Pacalta helped me
coach. He was the head coach. We were kind of co coaches at
the time. When I retired, he was coaching. I helped him out.
Um, besides that, like I'm pretty easy going, you know,
like dealt would be funny enough, that laid back enough. I just love
teaching the kids. I love, yeah, watching them learn and watch them
do what they love to do. Like I was in their shoes at one
point. And so for me, my journey's over. I don't care what
happens to them. I don't care how much they buy into it. For
me, it's about helping them out and if they take something, they take
something. If not, then what what did hockey teach you? When you
when you look at even life now, you know it takes a lot to
get to the level and stay at the level that you played for so long.
I mean, what were you the first American captain of Montreal Canadians.
I mean, that's what an honor that is, right, and that really
to you. But boy, it takes a lot to get there. What
do you carry forward in life? I mean, and that's part of the
reason I'm doing what I'm doing now, right, Like, you sacrifice so
much along the way from the time you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old,
you miss out on everything and you've made the decision to sacrifice those things
and make a go at a career and the longevity. I was very fortunate
to do it for so long, and I think that's a separator. There's
a lot of guys at that level that could play at that level for a
day or two, but it's maintaining it day after day, game after game,
year after year. For me, it was about the sacrifices you have
to make and whether you're okay with it. And that's ultimately also what drew
me away from the game is at the end of my career, like the
kids had moved around a ton, I had played eighteen years and I was
content going out the way I did. Even though I could have gone and
played a few more years, I could have gotten more contracts. It was
just at that point things had changed. Your priorities change, and what you're
willing to sacrifice change hard decision, I mean, super yeah. Yeah,
it's never easy, like you wrestle with it forever. And they my last
year coming out of the Buffalo contract, I had contracts for one year with
a few different teams, Boston being one of them, and we went down
we looked at houses. We were looking to move the kids, and at
the end of the day I came back and I just wasn't ready to move
the kids. So we ended up working out a way that I could still
play one more season or have one more goal with a Stanley Cup, with
doing the Olympics and then signing with Boston after the Olympics, and it worked
out to be a perfect kind of send off. It was like a semi
retirement. I was practice player for the Amorics and played the one game here
in Rochester and then went off to the Olympics, had an Olympic go at
it, and then also one more chance at a Stanley Cup with Boston.
Well, I mean you had the Olympics in how long a season are we
talking about? Yeah? Ultimately, like I was training all along all summer
and then skating with the americ from September to what is that January or early
January when you go off for the Olympics. Olympics was a month and season
into that, right, No, that was the That was the one year
that they didn't uh they had non NHL players they could play in the Olympics,
and so that was the loopholes. I didn't have an NHL contract,
so I could play in the Olympics that year and then come back. And
I had a deal in place before I left for the Olympics. Came basically
dropped bags from South Korea and then jumped in the car to had to to
Boston to start the season with Boston's unreal. Yeah, it's unreal. Yeah.
Well, so you know when you when you look at all this and
I'm hearing you and you're saying, you know, the sacrifice and things that
that goes that way. And I'll get back to what that is. But
as a guy with a family, you have to find somebody and and um,
I have to be careful how I phrased this, just or my own
life, but one of the most important decisions you'll ever make is your partner
and to find somebody that And I don't know if I'm gonna say this the
right way or not, but sometimes the first love is hockey. Yeah right,
yeah, well, I mean they come in I knew, I mean
my life in high school. Yeah, and not that she understood that hockey.
Hockey never comes first. You don't want to put it that way,
like life, life is life and things happen, but yes, like that's
your career. And you're driven, and you're super successful for a reason because
you're so driven. Yeah. Um, And there's she understood the fact that
I would be missing funerals, I would be missing weddings. There was there
was times that I mean, you're not around and and you know, without
that support of her, I would have never made eighteen years and then throw
kids into the mix. That's and now it just it's it amplifies things even
more. So You're you're missing birthdays, you're missing holidays. Um, even
in the summertime when it's supposedly off, you know, you're training every day,
you're skating every day, and your vacations are no longer two week vacations.
It was okay, we can take three days here because I don't want
to miss workouts, I don't want to miss skates. And it would get
frustrating at times. But at the end of the day, that's why we
were able to be so stable in an unstable you atmosphere. Married somebody you
met in high school. So she's been with you since what seventeen sixty fifteen,
sixteen sixteen. Wow, so this has really been a journey together for
sure. Yeah, that's awesome. And the biggest thing is that works because
we allowed each other to grow together. Like I went to my college,
She went to her college, she had her job, and then you know,
at the end of the day, she had to give up her job
she was a teacher to move to Jersey with me. So there's plenty of
sacrifices that she has had to make along the way too. Yeah. Now
when it comes to like, you know, we think of guys who played
in long time at a high level, and of course Tom Brady maybe one
that comes. Did you follow something similar to that in terms of eye it
and sleep and yeah, yeah, everything you do, like like it's you
think of season end. You know, maybe if you're lucky you go into
June you're in the finals or you know, uh, and then it's immediately
switched on to the next season and preparing for the next season, and it's
it's six days a week of workouts and skates and and constant, right,
Like you go on the boat. That's one of the things now as you're
retired, you go on the boat, you go up in the adirundeck for
the weekend. You don't have to worry about Okay, when am I eating
am I doing enough to stay prepared, am I? How long am I
away that type of stuff? Right? So that that's interesting to me?
And now, I mean you're still in phenomenal shape. It's just it's just
your routine. Yeah, Like it's you drop the kids off at school,
go for a workout and hang out that way, and then find something to
do, whether it's golf or be on the lake. You guys, you
guys were the first team that got the Cup for a day with everybody correct.
Yeah, I'm not sure what the timing was of it, but yeah,
we had the Cup for a day in New Jersey. Do you remember
the most about that? I mean all the public stuff? We did a
ton of public stuff throughout the day. Yeah, yeah, buddy at them
all. Yeah. And you try to you you know, like you don't
get to everyone. You try to make it as as inclusive as you can
and give back to the community that's given so much to you. But what
you remember is the private party after, right, like your family and friends
or your close knit people that you know you went to and you know you
had a good time with that, uh, and they enjoyed the cup.
And I'll tell a quick story. I guess if we got time. But
so a young it was an old three. So with Callahan and my brother
Um both young, and they're probably, I don't know, fifteen sixty.
I don't know the exact time, but they're they're young at the time,
let's put it that way. So they're thinking nothing of it. They're grabbing
the cup, they're drinking out of the cup, whatever it may be.
And so there's this lore that there's a curse. Right you touch the cup,
you're not gonna win it. So sure enough, those two guys go
on both to play in the Stanley Cup finals, one with the Rangers,
one with the Devils. Neither of them win the cup. And so I
don't know if it's my cup. Party brought both of their cup dreams to
screeching Halter what it was? Do you ever bring it up? I do?
But then but then my brother that's the problem. Now my brother goes
and he works for Tampa Bay as a pro scout, and he's got two
Stanley Cups under his belt. So now, first of all, these Stanley
Cups are the size of the table we're sitting at now, and mine looks
like a high school class ring compared to his I mean, so he makes
fun of the size of my cup ring and then that he's got two over
my one. That's that's really funny. I ribbed him. I earned it,
like it wasn't a scout mid Like it's a scout, dude. Your
brothers you Joe and Brian Steve. Yeah, who wins in the bubble hockey
tournament? Oh me all day? I got one in my basements. So
it's easy. I tear the kids up with that bubble hockey. So easily
I got both of them. Now, is your brother being a scout?
Is there any temptation for you to go back and do something for a team
or even go into the booth at some point to do some TV? Yeah?
I get I dabbled in TV a bit when I was playing. I
had done those stints with UM the NHL Network at the time, and I
liked him Um. But there's a commitment level to it, and I just
I haven't been ready. I did some part time stuff with the Americ Sabers
when I first started, and uh, you know, Kevin Adams a good
friend GM. Now um, he's he's offered you know, if I'm ready
to get into it, it's just the time commitment. I'm just not ready
to give that up and sacrifice that when you only have a few years left
with the kids. Yeah, and they're in their prime, you know.
No, I got you right, you're in that busy time. You're oldest
is eighteen, Yeah, how many of you have three? Three? My
youngest is eleven. Yeah, so you got eighteen, fifteen and eleven.
Maybe in the next five years that things may change. Yeah, right,
and I think that'd be very I think it'd be great. In the booth
Man. Yeah, well I thought, Listen, I love PK Suban,
right, but I thought he was gonna be great, and I thought he
stunk it up in the year. He could have been way better. Yeah,
he does, like I love and I love PK. He's a former
teammate, so I can give him crap about it. But how's the French?
Is it still strong? It's it's tough, It's I've lost all of
it. But my oldest son, who had the most schooling in Montreal,
we came back to Buffalo and he's taken French in school and we have the
parent teacher conference and he's tearing it up. He's got you know, hundreds
all across the board because it's basically bocab and maybe a little bit of sentence
structure or whatever. Maybe I'm like, has he has he told you why?
Like it comes easy to him. She's like no, I'm like,
well, we lived in Montreal for five years, Like his schooling was half
in French, Like he should be. He should be as in this like
bocab test he can't. We got to push him a bit. Yeah,
that's true. Well, I mean that's that's the thing I gotta think for
you. Is it hard to to ever uh you ever need to back off
a little on the and I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean
it's for sure. Your expectations have to change. And like every one of
my kids is different and you have to deal with them all different. Anyone
that has kids realizes, yes, um, you can't just not a blanket
parenting style. You gotta change it up with all of them. But no,
but when you've achieved so much right and then they're coming along, how
hard that may be for you to go, come on, I'm seeing these
things. You can do this. But yeah, the biggest thing is going
in the pantry, grabbing a stack of orioles or whatever. I'm like,
Oh, you have no idea what you're doing to yourself, Like you're not
setting yourself up. But I gotta lay back on some of that stuff,
like maybe mix an oriole, protein shading or something. Give it, give
it in something else. Yeah, that's funny because you probably really were very
You're so disciplined. Were you disciplined with your diet even at their age?
Probably not like I try to think I was. But yeah, fifteen sixteen,
seventeen year old kids, you're not thinking like how much nutrition stuff do
you get? In the NHL? Do they give you a knowledge way?
Like when I first came into the league, there was nothing. There was
no nutritionists, there was no meals provided. Now every team provides breakfast,
lunch, dinner, they have six nutritions on hand. They'll they'll have to
go meals for the young guys, you know, so when they the odd
day you're not there for dinner or whatever, they send it home with you.
So it's a lot more structured. Yeah, the nutrition and the strength
and condition workout stuff was the biggest change over the course of my career when
you started, where they're still guys are ripping darts between periods. Yeah,
legit, Like those guys, especially some of the some of the Russian guys
that were over there, like they'd have like the yea, they'd have their
you know, the drop ceiling. They pump up the thing and getting upgrade
over there for sure. That's funny. Well, those are even their conditioned
athlete, right, I mean you can't do that and then play at that
high level. Yeah, it was it was beers handing out beers at the
at the end of games, and now it's the trainers are waiting there with
your protein shake like that's legit, what happened. So there's been a huge
evolution that way. Yeah. Is the game faster or better as a result
of the players better? Do you think? I mean, uh, because
we really poison ourselves with that's the food when you think about Yeah, percent,
that's a tough question. The athlete. I think today's athlete is way
better than previous generations athletes. Yeah, across all sports. Um, I
don't. I wouldn't say the game is better. The game is different,
like it's faster, it's way more skilled, but they also don't know the
nuances of the game. And I'm probably sounding like that old alumnis no,
but like, yeah, I mean like the game is way like these kids
can do way more with the puck than any of us could ever do.
But the problem being is they think you got to beat one on one or
they try to challenge too much instead of like a two on one or using
your teammates. That just doesn't happen as much anymore. Someone trying to steal
a car, well, oh, I think it's somebody. It's over here,
somebody touched the coaches that innovaded the game with the left wing lock too.
Yeah, I mean it was. It was all that one on one
stuff. No, no, you always had to use the teammates in order
to make it happen. And so the game is just different. That's all
I can speak to is it's way more skilled, faster, um, but
just different. What is the uh? What are you driving? What's in
your garage? I gotta a ram TRX from this lovely dealership. Yeah that
is one of them. Uh. And then we have a Tahoe the wife
drives around from the other this dealership Chevy, and then jeep Cherokee who my
son thinks it's his, Okay, you know, he thinks this is because
he drives it every day. He thinks it's his. It is not,
it's ours. It was it was Was that not part of our conversation when
it happened, Like, I'm for a family vehicle, not a vehicle that
my son is having matt up everything. You know, when when they get
to that age, everything is a family vehicle. Yeah, I agree.
I agree from Victor Chrysler, Dodge Sheep Ram and Victor Chrysler Victor Chevy as
well, they owned both of them. The this dealership is unbelievable. When
you go inside, I am so impressed with the layout and it's just very
comfortable state state of the yard. We want it to be comfortable for all
of the for the customers as well as the people to work here. So
service departments spotless too. Inside that in the garage incredible, it's amazing.
It's amazing. You know when you you know, you're proud of the uh,
You're proud of your surroundings, proud of where you work. The guys
want to keep a you know, they're they're proud of their workspace and they
want to Yeah, you don't want to show up to a dirty, dirty
place that's a that's a mess it. You know, everybody's got you know,
got some interest in making it work and uh and having a clean environment.
Yeah. Uh. Do you ever race Brian on skates at all?
Listen, there's that help of the table over here, which is you and
Brian. Then there's me a cabin. You know, no, I would
never. I'm not in this league, not even you guys were talking about
shapes and I'll raced that. We'll do get the roller blades out, I'll
go with I'll go with that cabin. We'll see what happens. Brian,
what what workouts are you doing? You ever do boxing workouts? I do
not. I've never gotten into boxing. My wife does them. Um,
I'm more like what I had all throughout my career is that keep you in
lying the box? I'm trying. I'm trying to figure that out. Still.
It's like I wasn't driving the boat good enough. Like she's gonna pull
some crap on me here. But you got to do a few scraps of
the NHL I got into. I got into tour maybe a third like I.
It was like two and a half fights, Okay, yeah, yeah,
how bad I didn't win him in But I didn't lose him, yea.
So my first one was Todd Marshawn and another Western York guy is playing
for Anaheim, I think at the time, and I have there's video of
it. I love showing the kids. So I get in a fight,
it's my rookie year, and literally Scott Stevens, the Hall of Famer Ultimate
Captain, he literally followed our fight around, probably four to five feet away
from the fight the whole time. So in case anything went bad I started
losing, he was he was gonna be there to pick up his teammate.
I think I got that video. Scott Stevens just followed me around fight Tyler
Ennis, who's like my Tyler's size, and Sa Daniel Tyro who's like six
nine on skates. It probably wasn't of a fight. It's probably it was
probably Z just whip him around. Well, I don't know how you do
that on blades. I go to me, that is the the ultimate sport
is hockey, because you got you have to skate. Yeah, you're handling,
you're fighting guys, just getting bumped, you're moving the pop. I
don't know how the hell you do. I've never played, so I go
that to me and then when they're fighting, I go, this is insane.
It's absolutely insane. That's why I tried not to do it very often.
It's amazing your brother Joe, who coached my son for summasonother had a
great ability to teach him how to do it on skate. Yeah, well
that's it. Well because he was. I played at a clients with my
older brother Joe, and he was always the enforcer type and always making sure
no one touched his younger brother. That's that's what he was. So then
he carried that on to the kids when he was coaching him, like he
wasn't gonna let anyone mess around, Like nothing was going to happen to his
guys, his team, and so that's what he would tell him. You
go out there, get on the ice, give somebody a nice big hit,
come on off, and then we'll go from there. It's like your
nephew and my son. Your nephew's out there. I always protecting Tyler.
Yeah's that's what you gotta do. But you know, the thing that scares
me a lot because the game has gone too far the other way now.
It's you know, I know, we want to keep kids safer. We
got to watch out on the concussion protocol and all of that, but I
think it's taken a little bit away from the game. Well, I cringe
every time these guys cut across the middle with their head down, like it
literally is cringey, because we were taught like you cut to the middle away,
you better make sure there's no one on the ice, like you are
taking your life in your own hand. Yeah. And Scott Stevens Paul Korea
like Lindros. He ended Lindros's career like just because of that, because Lindros
kept cutting in the middle, like we watched the kid this season. Then
the acquaintance team came across the middle and just got just blown up. Yeah,
And that was always part of the game. It was always and you
don't want to ever like I've gone through my fair share injuries. You don't
want anyone to get hurt. But those were parts of the game that,
like you, it was right, like it's the receiver cutting through the middle,
like you know what's gonna happen. You gotta be careful. What concussion
protocol obviously, I mean we talked about all the things that we're changing throughout
your career. From nutrition and workouts, I would assume concussion profocol changed as
well. Did you have concussions playing? Um, I mean not documented,
you know what I mean, Like it was more early in my career where
it was Yeah, exactly, not that I remember it was. I was
the one time and I was playing for Jersey and basically knocked out cold in
Detroit and just came off the ice. I didn't end up going back in
the game, but I played the next, you know, next game,
which is no longer than two or three days later. So um, I'm
sure like that's it's classic concussion protocol right now. Right with all that stuff
in the injury I would assume everything with injury now too, was to way
more like there was. I got to Montreal and there was everything was electronic
digital, every all your injuries, all your reports, all your treatments.
And he's like, okay, well what do you have from New Jersey.
I've been in New Jersey eight years. I'm like, I don't know.
Did they not send it over? Well, He's like they sent a one
page file in him, you know, Manila envelope over with your injury report
hurt. Yeah exactly. I'm like That does not cover all the injuries I
have there. That is not What was the worst? Do you remember?
Like the hardest one to read? Was there a torn muscle? And then
yeah, I mean I tore that knows this he did the same thing.
I tore both my bicep tendons. Those were terrible, you were wasn't that
within a short period of time? One? Yeah, like I had one
their six month recovery. So I did one one year, basically missed the
whole year, only played like thirty games, and then at the end of
the next season when I came back, I tore the other one. Um,
yeah, it's just part of it. But the worst, the worst,
scariest would have been I took a slapshot to the face and it was
it was four plates, twelve screws I have in there, like it's no
team play. Yeah, I was in I was in Tampa and my wife's
watching it on TV. The trainer ended up calling and be like, oh,
he's fine, he'll be out, you know for the third period.
Fifty stitches later, my face blown out there here and I didn't make it
back for a couple of weeks. Yeah, and he still looks better than
us. He didn't even make him ugly happened? How is that possible?
Just not fair to surgeons. So both you guys toward the ten and does
the muscle roll up? Then? Yeah, the muscle the muscles mine went
up into the Yeah, the same way. Yeah, man, it looks
like it looks like a popeyeye. It hurts when it happens. It's like
a quick It almost feels like you get electrocute ye like this weird. Then
after that the pain goes away. I can't do anything. Were you lifting
weights or something? Oh? Yeah, weights like and yeah, I appreciate
you guys. I was pushing up front ends they could change tires. It
was close. Man's big. It looks like you could put a weightlift what
so like like a like a moron that I am trying. I was trying
to lift one of these fifty gallon fuel drunks for the car. Yeah,
we all use racing fuel on the cart on that we all guys use racing
fuel in the cars. I rolled it sideways back up the truck, and
I've done a bunch of times. You lean the fifty five gallons drum up
against the tailgate, then you pick it up and push it in. Okay,
and this time here it literally it's just snaps. Yeah, and you
feel it. You feel that um you know that like that tinge. Yeah,
like you gotta. But after that it doesn't hurt. Now, a
couple days after the surgery, when they drill into your forearm and pull,
you know, pull the tendon through and pin it on the other end,
Yeah, that's when it that's when it hurts. And then that damn I
mobilize. Yeah, you gotta wear for six weeks. Yeah, so could
you use your arm after that for three months? You can't like like immediately,
this happens immediately, can you like limited? I guess yeah, you
lied. You lose to be able to yeah, to rotate your pate,
that's it. So like yeah, like to be able to open up your
palm and close your palm is what the main driver of that bicep tenderness.
Yeah, so it's not fun. Oh it's geez. I played with it
though, second time around. I played three games with it. He looks
at me right now, he's like, you're as sissy. Yeah, it
was horrible. Did you miss Actually I didn't. I don't think you can
miss work when you're when you're here. You know, that is the best.
That is the best I know. If you own it, you don't
miss work, you're having something. Listen, even if you're sitting at home
and you're bumming out, people are still calling, yes, and it's hard
to lift up the phone. Then I was getting, on the other hand,
phone. What hurts the most when you get up anything? Nothing out,
That's what I mean. My body feels good. That's why I'm rather
than retirement, get a good workout in. But body feels good these days
unlike they used to. Yeah, I would. Uh. One of the
things that I'm seeing as my parents' age is the importance of stretching. Do
you do things like yoga? I do? Yeah, I did. I
did when you did when you played as well. I love hearing that because
I'm going you know, it's one of these things where I'm like, I'm
not good at it. But man, I try to stretch every day.
I'm watching my old man and uh, I heard I have a hurting any
disc in my back from high school football and other stuff. And as if
I put on a little weight, man, I feel all that stuff I
feel at all. Yeah, and it's the worst, but I go boy,
that's stretching thing. And I love hearing a professional athlete go yeah I
did it. Yeah, I loved it. I would it always felt good,
it sucked, and it would hurt. Like our hips are super tight,
so yoga was great for opening up your hips and helping that, like
low back and stuff like that. You got me into doing those bands.
I like bands. Bands are a great way to stretch and work out,
you know, an easy low h I hit thirty and had to completely change
my warm up routine and like that kind of thing. Thirty Yeah, like
it just your body starts to shut down. You don't treat it the way
it should be as far as like prepping it for practice or you know,
after a game taking care of it. And right around thirty started having growing
and hip and back issues and all those bands, so like it was it
was a lifesaver. Really yeah. And who teaches you that stuff? Was
that all the trainer? Yeah? Stuff? Yeah? Yeah stuff? Yeah?
And so are you do you have your kids do this now when you're
coaching kids and all, yeah, yeah, I don't know whether they like
it or not, but they're doing all that stuff. And then because of
like it is, like anything else you have contacts, so they're they're exposed
to the best pts and the best doctors. And someone hasn't tried to recruit
you to their gym in some way to almost be a trainer or to be
Yeah. No, I mean salt and something, just like you know more
than you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tough.
I like for my kids, I sent them to places that I love and
that I the places that I trained when I was going through. But so
you have your people that you trust, um and then you just turn it
over to them. Yeah. And the family. Everybody's good. Brother,
everybody, everyone's doing good. Both brothers are doing well and parents are doing
well. And uh my immediate family's doing good. Good. We were out
here at Victor Chrysler Dotshi Brahm and it's the grand opening out here. Uh
Matt, you've got now. I don't want to brag, but I helped
out Jimmy Z. You were selling it out out here. We were we
were to a point where we had low card plates with chimmas. But thank
you, thank you for helping them. We appreciate you. Are man.
He calls me, and I feel like I'm already running. A little lady
goes, hey, can you stop and get me hamburger and hot dog rolls?
I go, absolutely, it was just the low cart thing. You
know, you're still's gonna fill the truck up with gas. But he said
to me, he goes, it's a run. I go, that's fantastic.
And who was bringing some of the cars by? You got beautiful cars
on the these are they're just a lot of friends and customers. We've got
everything here. We've got some of them. Some of the newest ferraris Lamborghini's
Audi R eight's dodges. That Porsche was out there at the Rainbow. That
was cool looking. Who has the aud R eight. I don't know whose
it was, but it was beautiful. Yeah, they're usually built right,
they're almost like ready for racing right off the Yeah, and a lot of
a lot of the guys came back to see we've got one of our turbo
corvettes up on the Dino. We're running doing Dino runs today. We've got
some parts being made on the CNC machines in the back, and we brought
everybody around to see the Hellcat. Hellcat is sitting right in front of you.
It's the black one. So there's uh, Like I said, we
got a quite a cross section of vehicles here today. Some people were Dodges,
the muscle cars. They have like a twenty four month plan going forward,
and I don't know, I was just looking at it. It looked
like some of it was to go maybe hybrid electric on some of these things,
but keep that same feeling in power. They are. Actually that Ferrari
that was here was was one of the hybrid Ferraris and it's really one of
the most sought after that that's out there right now. Yeah, that's I
mean, that was one of the first in New York or you know,
first in this area. But it's the hybrid is the way to go.
Formula one same thing, hybrid right now. Yeah, I didn't know that
with Formula one was hybrid. Oh yea if you if you listen to a
race, you know they're usually on Sunday morning, you'll hear these guys say,
no, they're charge in the battery and the user battery for a little
extra power. They have the DRS which is the where the wing comes back
and they get they get better uh you know, better airflow and at the
same point they use use the battery. Yeah, I know you're using race
fuel. Ever, race just like hot laps. Maybe down at Watkins Clan.
I don't know. I don't I'm saying something bad. I'm I'm the
straight line thing. I'm not done. Okay. So I used to raise
back in the back in the days, which I did that for you know,
probably seven or eight years. But no road racing. So drag drag,
Yeah, I like that. Let me rephrase that. I like drag
racing. Yes, no, yeah, that's true. I wouldn't look at
I totally missed that. My head wasn't even there. And when somebody says
to meet drag, the first thing I think is drag racing. Well as
you Yeah, yeah, that that fires up nice. All right, we'll
take a moment where Victor Chrysler dodged deep Ram a little bonus episode. Look,
there's the duck from the jeeps. Got the duck, got plenty of
food out here. Plumb crazy Brenda's here? Is she here? She's here?
Oh, we'll have to meet plumb crazy Brenda. Maybe we'll bring her
on the podcast. We'll do that next. What are you excited their first
ever episode? I know? Wow? Well, I think coming off that
episode Bill, we were we had a lot of fans we did and confidence
and there was a lot that we wanted to say. And part of the
name is unfiltered in Average and we just wanted to be raw and real and
have some good conversation. Well, I feel like that sums up our personalities.
We don't really care what people think. We're saying all the things people
are thinking. What won't say for Ballsy? Where Ballsy were fun? Unfiltered
an average? Wherever you get your podcasts bid he saw on location driven by
Victor Chrysler Dogs Chief ram Man. Listen to that engine that sounds that's the
Camaro. Yes, that's you gotta get ready him. Wow. So we
finally got carm Indiana to come out and be part of this owner of Victor
Chrysler, Dotsy Ram and Victor Chevrolet. Yes, under protests he needs about
three people fanning Heim, What do you mean under protests? Just fantastic.
So if we went to you, like, I have a lot of questions
for you, Okay, no, but in terms of like owning a car
dealer, it has to be NonStop for you all day, every day,
even days when you're closed. Yes, it's it's a truly a twenty four
seven job. It is your your phone's going off, you know, whether
it's a sales customer or a service customer, and you want to make sure
that you're available, you know, whenever you can for these customers, because
it can be frightening. You know, look at you. You know you
get a hold an the tire, you don't know what to do. We
want to make sure that you know, even if it's on a holiday,
we might not be able to handle handle it on that holiday, but tell
you you know when we can take care of you and that it's going to
be okay. I watched him in Lake Placid. We were up there for
a hockey tournament. He was on his phone making calls and making sales and
making money while he's watching this kid play your sales department, and I don't
know who it was in there. I watched them come out, and I
told this to your brother Matt when he came on the podcast. They were
so impressive the way they talk to the customer and the first thing, and
I just thought this was really really telling you. I don't know if this
is part of a training thing you guys I have no idea, came out
and said to this lady, ma'am, it's under warranty, and then explained
everything. But I thought that was awesome because what's the first thing. How
much is this going to cost me? How much is this gonna cost me?
And I was like, boy, that's smart, and like you saw
the lady and then they interact and I'm like, man, these guys got
it going on out here, just in terms of you know, we're just
trying to have a different culture. We're not trying to sell you our service
you one time. Yeah, We're looking for customers who are going to keep
coming back. We're trying to build a brand here, yes, and the
way to do it is to just take care of people, be honest,
and help them whenever you can. You know, there's a lot of places
that might do more volume than us, but they might see that customer one
time. Yeah, we want you to come back. We want you to
tell your family and friends, tell your kids, and you know, we
want to take care of everybody that we can. Yeah, well, you
got a great product. I mean, the Grand Wagon here is one of
the most impressive cars to just peek in and then you've got the whole navigation
system for the passenger and that they can handle for the driver. I mean,
it's just a it's a really amazing automobile. Almost looks like a Mini
Limo suv Limo. It's so long. You know. The great thing about
the manufacturers that were associated with is they make it easy for us. I
mean when you look at Stilantis in the cars that they're putting out right now,
Like you say, that Grand Wagon Ear, it sells itself. We
had a customer here today who's driving and Escalade Sport that is the hottest vehicle
out there right now. Everybody wants one of those because of the look in
the ride and everything else. He drove this car and he said, Okay,
I'm trading my Cadillac in today, did he he? We're in the
process of working and I think that's amazing. Not enough people know about the
Grand Wagon Ear. Once they know about it, see it and drive it,
it makes our job so easy. It sells itself. You cannot have
a better endorsement than that guy. You can't. That's amazing, that's incredible.
So let me ask you, like, Okay, we talk about the
job being twenty four seven, what do you do to blow off some steam?
What's on? What? What? What gets the juice is cooking.
What I get to do is my hobby is follow my kids around for sports.
That's what I do. They keep going near that jeep and they're setting
off to your alarms. You'd think they'd unlock him right now. But that's
way too hard to do. It really is. So yeah, he goes
around with the kids. I've already done that, and I just, you
know, drink. I mean to be fair, he does that too.
I guess at these now they're having competing. Yes, we're gonna, we're
gonna here. You can't make this shit up. Bills were probably doesn't work
anymore. He probably broke that too. I didn't break it. I swore
to God, I didn't break it. I have other things I'll talk to
you about. It just says, hey, well, I have been so
impressed with the Dodge product like that. I'm blown away by the truck.
How it's now. These trucks drive like a car. They make it so
easy. Used to be like, even to change four wheel drive, you
used to have to get out and click all this stuff. And that tool
is way too much work. I know, they're beautiful. They're beautiful the
screen. Yes, yes, can't beat it. No, So come on,
carm nothing for fun other than chasing your kids around, you gotta do
something, you gotta you're not racing with your brother. He goes out do
a little drag race. We do like our car. So you know.
The thing that's great now is my kids are to the age where they enjoy
the cars too. Yes, so it's something we can share. That's when
we're not at sports. You know, we'll go out cruising at night.
Very cool to put the top down in the car and go for a cruise.
What do you got, Uh, we got a couple of cars that
we like to drive around. You know. Well he's he's very modest.
Well that's okay. I wouldn't I would not, I would not push.
But I mean is you got to see this guy in his Traverse. By
the way, the Chevy Traverse a nice vehicle. I got into a car
accident with a different vehicle once, and when I was married, my wife
did all this research and the one that came back was the most airbags and
the most safety was the Chevy Verse at the time. At the time,
I do have my eyes on a fourd escort gt S. We're looking for
circuit. Yeah, or I'll take a tempo too. Well, that's very
good, and it looked like a great turnout today. Oh we had to
have I know, we served two hundred people with the food truck. Yeah,
Jimmy's he's low carbs and we serve so many people that you had to
go buy them Brett, Yes, funds, he called me. I go,
okay, but but they'll live it down. I'm sure we won't break
an Actually, their their food was great. Had a veggie burger. Some
their fries were amazing. Yeah, yeah, well everything is at Jimmy Z.
I love that he didn't I like him. I don't know why.
I just I do like the veggie burger. You do, yeah, the
black what do you get the black bean? Usually black bean. I do
like the black bee and the spicy black beans. They're great. Yeah,
they're great. Kevin, who are we talking to here? I like burgers,
the ones with meat, and we had done. But I didn't know
you. Hey man has taste, you know, it's it's fine taste a
lot they taste actually there if you get a good one, no, no
bull, they're they're good. It's a good one. How is it with
working as brothers with family? Is that? I mean, is that tough
at times? Or does it? It seems like you guys get along really
well and business is good. You both seem to have very easy going man.
I don't know in terms of family structure. Does that ever tough?
I just listen to what Carmen says and I do it, and then it
makes everything great. That's the best way to get true. It's yeah.
I sit in the back and then when I sit in the back and do
my stuff and I come up and he just gives me this look like don't
come up here, and I go back into my office and that's it.
See, it's a perfect relationship because he's the brains. I'm the muscle.
So it just goes out. And that is not the case, not the
case. No, he is he is the brains as well. I uh,
he just um, he's smart and knows when not to leave me alone,
like doing trades and things like. He doesn't want to go on vacation.
He doesn't want to go you know, the sports games with the kids,
because what happens is you do these trade ins and he'll just look at
me and go, what were you thinking? What were you exactly? No,
The famous word is who fell in love with this car? Like?
What is it about this trade that you love so much that we're going to
lose money on it? Or is there ten thousand dollars in the trunk you
didn't tell me about? Or you know where do we get this number?
So you're like good with numbers and real quick, he's he's he's great with
thee with all the cars and the numbers and everything. He no, no
ball. I stay away from that part because he he's just better at it
than me. Yeah. I like to put numbers on the vehicles and then
figure out what we're selling the new one for and then I'm the one who
reprices the vehicle once you know it's for sale. So that that's what I
enjoy doing. I get to talk to banks and you know all that I
got you. Yeah, and that's no fun. Stuff that is no fun.
You know that sounds likeuse say that so you're saying you're the outgoing one.
I'm possibly an extrovert. I'm might be, you know, but no,
it's a it's it's a good partnership. Yeah, it looks like it's
a great partnership. You've got this dealership in the one just up the road,
and uh, this one is I mean, I was telling you,
brother, the state of the art stuff is incredible. I have my kid
here and he's saying to me, this is better than home. They got
snacks, Wi Fi TV. We try to make it the best, but
it is. It's nice. And I and as I told you on the
podcast, I was telling carm I was just so impressed with your service.
The way you're the people that work in the service department handled customers. It
was really really well done, runs top to bottom. And like he was
saying earlier, you're looking to create an experience and a repeat customer. They
do a great job. Thank you for thanks saying that. But it's what
we've We've also created an experience where they can, you know, come in
do some work. Um, bring your computer in. They've got high speed.
Why you've got you got the news in the background. You can do
what you need to do. It's a different world now. People are connected
all the time, all the time, whether it be for pleasure or like
you're saying, work bringing your laptop and do it, or if you're just
sitting there. We're entertained all the time. Now we're scrolling through TikTok,
or we're scrolling through Instagram or whatever that is. And that's the thing.
Are you guys on TikTok? Not on? On is Victor Chrysler, Daji
Brawn No, no, no, get on. Last I saw you're not
even supposed to be on TikTok. That's some kind of you know, stealing
data. The Tiktoka that you're right there is the worry that it is a
it is operated outside of the United States. My motto is the less social
media, the better. Yeah, when you know personally, no, no,
no, no, personally I get that. And in Facebook and Instagram
are good for the dealership. Yeah, they say that there is dealerships using
TikTok. I haven't seen where it would benefit us yet. Okay, if
it comes to the point where it does, then we'll talk about it.
But right now, who's in charge of all that? I handle that,
you handle all the social media stuff. I have a company that I work
for, so I delegate it out, but I oversee all of that.
I don't. I don't even pretend to know what that was. I just
messed on my space. Yeah, yeah, I still have an AOL dial
and yeah, exactly that the next dealership, you guys gonna get something fingers
crossed really, yes, yeah, wow, that's fantastic. Yes, okay,
any uh can you say anymore about it? No, I don't want
to say. Okay, that's yeah, well that's great. Well, this
one is impressive. And you know, the Grand Wagon Ere. I loved
hearing the story of the person who came in with the Escalade, drove the
Grand Wagon ear and said, I'm trading this in today. Oh it's yeah,
it's an amazing, amazing product. And as it gets out there and
gets more exposure, I think you're gonna just see those really start to take
over versus the Escalade. Yeah. Well even Brian, he was on earlier,
right yep. Uh, as he was leaving, he said, you
know, because we gave him one of the Grand Wagon ears to try out.
Uh. Well, he was getting oil change and he said this is
better than my Tahoe and every way He's like, that'll definitely be next.
Get that. And he called me an a hole when I told him to
go home with it. I don't know, I don't understand why he goes.
You know, I'm gonna want this thing, you know it. It's
just like you know, give him a little crack and here, just just
drive it. You'll like it. It's very smart. That's very smart.
I see that. Where did the sales side of things come from? You
always have it? Oh, it's our father. Our father has been in
the car business his whole life. He worked at Hallman Chevrolet. You know
when he was fourteen. I guess back when you can work when you're fourteen
years old as a mechanic and as a mechanic. Yeah, he went from
being a mechanic to a salesperson there. I remember going to see him down
on East Have you where Spot Coffee is? Yep, that's where. That's
where Halman's was. And then from there he went to a local Honda dealer.
He was there for thirty five year or something like that, and then
went out on his own and we started doing this. So he went out
on his own and started the dealership. And then you guys have kind of
teaketing. We all started the dealership to together. Yeah, what a cool
thing to go into business with your old man. What a nice tribute to
him. Oh? Absolutely, yeah. I was that he definitely got us
started. And I was gonna say, how tough though, because sometime,
I mean, you know, it's your dad, but sometimes you're a little
harder on your kids. It was a great experience, Bill, Well,
clearly because you've got the two dealerships and crossing over my Mike isn't working.
All right? All right, it was. It was a great experience.
And he was here today, you know, just hanging out and doing his
thing, and sold four cars while he was here. That was it.
Look, he still run circles around us when it comes to cell because he
really yeah, yeah, he does. Well, that's great. Although he
didn't get Kevin to get something new, but it is Kevin. I'll take
something new. We just have to pay for it. That's wrong, isn't
it. We will We'll take a moment. I think Jimmy Z wants to
say hello, We'll get Jimmy Z. Where Victor Chrysler Dodge Deep Ram were
driven by Victor Chrysler Dodge Deep Ram and you're you're hearing it all the time.
And people came down and told me how much they love the dealership.
I don't if you guys met plumb crazy Brenda and her husband who had the
dodge crazy Dodge. Yeah, it was a hellcat very nice, very nice.
We'll get to that next. I know a ton of girls that will
refuse to go out to dinner by themselves. Ye, and those are the
ones that are making the poor choices. I have never gone to dinner by
myself. I will say that you gotta do it, but I will do
it. I've I've gone to a bubble where you feel awkward, but right
at the bar where you can meet people. Yeah. Absolutely, you can
get a lot of free drinks that way to like what you're here alone and
turn into a fun night exactly. I think if your social like us,
yes, it's easier to do. But you got to try that, Katie.
I will try that. I will try that. But also, like
traveling, you don't need someone to travel with. How fun would it be
to take a solo trip. I've done it. I told you I want
to start hiking, and that I want to do the forty six Peaks.
I want to start that you should, And so I'm always like, but
I don't have anyone to do with that. I don't and I'm playing you.
I don't need I should. I want to just focus on doing those
things that make me happy on my own unfiltered in average wherever you get your
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She ram, ourselves, excuse me, I didn't unmute myself, Victor Chrysler,
Dodge, Cheap Ram and Jimmy Z with the food truck man run today.
Jimmy A run on the food truck. Oh it was a run,
baby, I know, I know, and people were bragging about how good
the food is. And then I see Kevin's kid come over with him not
a chicken wing plate, a mountain of chicken wings, chicken tenders. He
was the last order of the day, so he got he got everything that
was left. Yeah, and then let's not forget the emergency call I had
to make to one Bill Moran. Yeah, that's say before he got here
to go grab some more burger buns. I loved it. That's he felt
like. It was like on the inside of the Jimmy Z family you're in.
I did, I really did, I I was I was great,
asked me to do something. So Jimmy has obviously jimmy'ss plates and shakes he's
got the food truck, he's got the drop off and pick up catering.
If he's doing catering as we speak right now, this is this is one
of two gigs today. So we got doubleheader. Okay, so we're from
here, We're gonna we got one in back in Brockport now for a graduation
party, you know, and then we also have the party that Poppy's catering.
Those are also close friends of ours, so and they're down the street.
I told them that I'd pop in and say hello in between the two
gigs. Okay, you know, so if we're just so busy today,
we super stacked with catering and food truck. It's just there's always that one
day of the summer that you end up like, oh, how did I
take more than I should have taken? So all right, so you got
all this stuff going on, right, more than I've taken. Very very
busy. Yeah, and then you've got basically a side business. There's a
lot of side businesses. Well I don't know if it's a side business or
if it's becoming like almost an emergent business for you. And that's the sneaker
game. Yeah, Yeah, the sneaker love watching your sneaker stuff. Thank
you, thank you, thank you a great job on so with it.
Thank you, yeah, thank you. Yeah. Things are you know,
just like anything else. Things are kind of quieting down right now. So
I had to bob and weave over the last couple of years and you know,
and buy stuff that I didn't buy before, you know, and uh
and and and move it because now everyone's getting the four or five hundred dollars
you know, retro anymore. Um, So you just gotta go with the
times. And you know, I like, I love going into the Nike
stores and you know, finding fifty sixty dollars air Force ones, uh,
Blazers, air Maxes, you know, anywhere in the sixty to eighty range,
and you know, you flip them for anywhere from you know, you
know, one hundred to one hundred and fifty. You know, I felt
like Jimmy and Connecticut when I was searching around. I found some Nike Patriots
nikes. Oh yeah, and where'd you find those? Burlington? Burlington?
Yeah? I saw those at Burlington and run to a second one to find
another pair. Yeah. I was like, too bad of the Patriots,
And I said, like like iron cheek kid. I was like the iron
cheek instead of fuck the hold Hogan, I said, fuck the Patriots.
Never. Yeah, God arrests grad rest is soul legend, iron cheek.
Yes. So we were so busy today. I had to I had to.
I had to call in, Uh my might hand man here, Adam,
Uh you know, one of my best friends. So and I said,
listen, dude, you got you can make some money on Saturday.
And I and I actually really need you so for you know, Adam,
what, Elsie, what do you do on a regular I have a regular
Monday to Friday for they're working a warehouse for okay supply company. Okay,
yeah, and then you come out and you how about Jimmy Z Yeah more
fun than the medical supply company. It's not bad. It's a little hot
in the truck. It's not bad though. Yeah. But you're hanging out
with Jimmy and that's like always fun. Yeah, slinging burgers. Yeah.
You know he doesn't give you a fan. Come on, Jimmy, no
fan, no music, ya, this is you know, this is it.
We're on yeah business. I didn't even honestly, I didn't even think
about the fan, you know, so to be honest, I wouldn't have
thought of it today either. When I got up, it was a little
cooler, and on the way here, I'm like, dude, this weather's
great. What's it gonna be later? And it was like seventy six when
he looked at it and it's gonna be seven, and then it said it
was gonna be eighty four, and I'm like, all right, yeah,
so um, so I had to put the bandana on the forehead. I
like that. The bandanna is a good look. And I see Jimmy Z
every once in a while puts out you wading into the lake. Yes,
the lake's warming up now, so it's not as Yeah. I started when
it was like upper fifties, the water upper fifty The water was upper fifties.
Yeah, like in May. May it was still upper fifties in May.
Yeah, and then I finally got a thermometer so I could tell.
But now it's now, it's in the it's I'd say it, it's hit
seventy five. Now. The last night was a little bit cooler. I
didn't have my theroometer on me, but I could tell it was a little
bit cooler. Yeah. No, actually, this morning, this morning,
it was so flat, so clear. Yeah, I just took a good
swim out, you know, and I could literally go I can honestly go
twenty to thirty yards away from my from my shore and I'm still standing wow.
And it's all flat concrete. So I'm really thinking that like back in
the day before the water level's got so high that really like there was some
boat launch or something anything. No, the bowl launch. I filled in
so like literally it's when I'm telling you could walk across. It's like it
feels like a flat piece of concrete when I first get in, its rocks,
you know. And then but once you get in, and but I'm
spending more time in the water now than I ever have. I mean,
I'm just this is my the first time I've been winded down, you know
and not working, uh you know, six and a half days, you
know, and it's fantastic. It's not odd in any way you ever find
yourself. It's not. It's not odd because my body hurts so much.
Real like I'm almost like an athlete, you know. I mean, no,
no, my body I'm in super rough shape, like my hips are
off, my hips are super super tight, like basically my lower my mid
back to my hips is like a crushed Can you need a lady, well,
stretch you out, buddy. Yeah. What happens is they stretch you
out and then and then they mess you all up again. Yeah that's the
problem. All right, Well what about now? And without all kidding aside,
what about like yoga or something have you? I do morning routines.
You know, I'm trying. I'm trying to strengthening myself up. I've gotten
to a point where when they did my meniscus a year like like fourteen months
ago, um he died. He when he went in there, he was
able to see that I had no cartilage left in my knees, in my
right kneel left from from working. It's it's yeah, I mean well,
I mean I went too hard for too long. Yeah, And I mean
I have no regrets because right now I could, I could literally walk away
from everything, and I could and I could live life on my own terms.
Okay, and I could live life freely. He'll tell you, you
know, I'm I'm I'm I live way below my I live in the dirt
like I live way below my means, I guess is what I'm saying.
You know, and we just had and the ketchup ran out, and he
had the bag up there, and he was when people wanted, he would
squeeze out the last two drops of the ketchup bad because he doesn't waste anything.
Yeah, well I think he doesn't. But I think that I said,
you gotta be there's gotta be something you pleasure yourself. That's a terrible
phrase, pleasure my morning. What I meant, what I meant, it's
not what I meant. What I meant was something that's just fun for you.
There's not a car, there's not something I yeah, oh you've got
that nice. And don't get me wrong, I have nice things. I
guess what I'm trying to say is this, I drove the same vehicle for
eleven years. Yeah I believe that, okay. And what I'm trying to
say is is that I could have driven eleven vehicles. Yes you could have
by now, Yes you could have. And that's the definition for me living
below my means. Do you think that that is part of the recipe of
happiness? And I said, sound silly, but let's look at this for
a second. One of the great things that money provides, in my mind
is freedom. Freedom to be able to do whatever you want. Sometimes we
become a slave to the high car payment. You become a slave to a
high car payment because you are you are spending money. You don't have to
impress people you don't like. And this is my man, Gary Visas and
he but that's how it's always been. But you've always lived. But before
Gary kind of came out, you were doing your own thing. I called
it the broke ass high rollers. Okay, I like it that I used
to call that's what I would call them. You know, you don't have
like Poppy would say, you don't have a dime. You don't have a
dime to throw salt in your eyes, okay, And and that's and that's
that's a it's a Macedonian saying that doesn't make sense. But you don't have
a dime too, you know, to go get a piece of bubble gum.
Yet you can go. You're you know, and you don't have a
house to live in. But I'm gonna look at this dope ride I have
and then I'm driving, you know, for everybody to see. Yeah,
you know, so that's all. And I just I never fed into that.
I never was into that, and not only that, I didn't have
time to buy it any more cards because I was working seven days a week,
and I was working late nights till four I think you liked I don't
know if you liked working the four am, but I think you like working.
You like doing business, you like doing Yeah, I'm not mad about
it. I think I did go too hard, you know. Oh yeah,
yeah, but I'm all right, all because you were standing all day.
Well, see what happens is now I once I slowed down. Yeah,
I have to. I have to. I have to. I moved
slow. So like when I get up from the chair, now I'm gonna
be I'm gonna be moving slow until I get there. You need to get
you need to go to the plug and get some yeasies. That's right,
baby, I don't except I don't wear easies. So I got my lunar
forces. I got my Nike Lunar Force. Okay, yeah, but the
yeasy man, those are some. I'm sorry, but those are really I've
heard they're super comfortable. I've never put I mean, I put one on
your foot. No, not even to try. No, No, I
don't. I don't end with principles I don't know. I just don't do
business with Kanye, yes, you know, and I and and and I
And the day Kanye started doing business with a Didas, I stopped doing business
in Dadas okay. And then he's back with Adidas now, yeah, which
is fine, I mean, which is good business. You know. I
mean the whole the whole thing was politics anyways. Okay, so you know
if that happened ten years ago, there wouldn't there would be no huffing and
puffing, you know, and the Cancil culture mafia wouldn't were you know,
they weren't. They didn't exist yet. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great
way of putting it, the culture cancel of culture mafia. Yeah, that
is. I mean, everyone just seems to have a problem with everything,
you know. So and um, you know, Jimmy, well you seem
like a guy who just put your head down and work and didn't give a
shit what was going on. In terms of that, I couldn't. I
couldn't because I never in my life have relied on government to to for you
know, to uh, to get my my my my easy paycheck. Yeah.
Okay, Like my buddy said something on Facebook yesterday and about I remember
what his status was. But I said that, um, I said to
him, I said that a non for profit agency is shoe who'll be running
this government? Okay, because there's too much personal interest and there's too many
too too much dark money being slipped and that's the read like everything's run by
everything's run by dark money. Let's be honest here, okay, like you
know, uh, you know, we can sit here and and and say
what we want to say. But in my eyes, uh, you know,
the left and the right, they're all they're all they're all on the
same page. Okay, you know, they're they're all punting. It's almost
kind of like a w W E act if you ask me. You know,
we're gonna go against each other, hate each other for six months until
one picks us. But then after we're gonna be buddies in Yeah you know
what I mean. So I don't want to get all fired up. No,
no, I don't want you to get all fired up. Well it
was I'll tell you what. The food always on points. Thank you that
the chicken finger on top of the cheeseburger was the perfect touch. But we
do, baby, Yeah, it was you were just you were just I
was just saying, cheeseburger. You were just one on your one on your
ring away from a Kniffel tower. Always, that's right. Yeah to bacon,
cheeseburger, barbecue, dipped chicken, fingers onion rings on top. God,
I just finished. I'm just gonna say never mind, alright. Plate
that I ate earlier. Go to Jimmy's, E's and h in Brockport right
there on Main Street. Or go to Plates and Shakes dot com find out
how you can get the food truck and find out more about the catering.
Thank you for having us all their Plates and Shakes dot com. For Kevin
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