WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:17.879 You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, and welcome to 2 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.879 another edition of Video Games to the Max. I am your host Sean Gmer, 3 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.399 and here with me, as usually, Mistermark Morrison. Got it well, 4 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.079 this is episode three and ninety three of the show, and we got 5 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:36.520 plenty to talk about here. This was the week of premieres and showcases and 6 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:41.359 then what could have been as well with a certain game. We'll get into 7 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:45.039 that. We'll talk about the follow out TV show. Marcus watched the whole 8 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:48.560 thing. I've only watched a couple of episodes, so we'll kind of get 9 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:51.399 into that. But Mark someone that has more history of the series than I 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.880 do, so it'll be interesting to hear his take. We got the talk 11 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.320 about Star Wars Outlaws with that new trailer dropping, the what could have been 12 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:03.799 with Dead Space or even a new Dead Space game. The Triple showcase happened 13 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.439 this week too. We'll talk about that and some more things right up to 14 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.439 it. Awright, Well, let's just get this out of the way really 15 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:17.599 quick here. If this is your first time listening or many a time listening, 16 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.799 we do appreciate you. Thank you for joining us. We do the 17 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:26.519 show live on Fridays around the twelve thirty one o'clock time there, and you 18 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:32.159 can watch that on our YouTube channel W two network. You can go on 19 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:37.560 Facebook network as well. You can go on Twitter, Twitch all that's the 20 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:42.159 same. I can go on my Twitter w twoshan as well and you can 21 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:48.280 watch it there or wherever you like to watch live things. We pretty much 22 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.200 have a space for that. You can also listen later on podcasts with your 23 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:56.079 ears, or you can just watch it later on the YouTube and if you 24 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.319 do, you not only get what we do here with video against the actually 25 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:06.920 have a bunch of cool people that do other content that is equally just as 26 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.639 awesome. The relationship broadcasting folks, they do all of the entertainment stuff. 27 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:16.800 So they will have their own fallout TV show review at some point. I 28 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:23.439 think that's not necessarily mister Ridler's doing it. It's another one of his team, 29 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.240 so that might come up a come out a little bit later than just 30 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.599 like you know, the next week. But they did do the God Deliversus 31 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:36.599 Cang new movie review that is out there and you can go check that out. 32 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.360 And we also have an anime show We'll talk with Cafe. They just 33 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:46.280 did their winter finales talking about all the new anime that's out and what the 34 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.000 like what they thought were the best winner shows for this year. And then 35 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:58.360 they also every after every season they do like an awards kind of thing where 36 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.400 they give out like you know, best I'm a best Guirrel, best boy, 37 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:06.080 all that stuff. You can go watch that on the channel too. 38 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:10.039 So yeah, definitely allowed to check out there. We are going to go 39 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.560 ahead and get started. I guess a little bit different talk about an actual 40 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:22.240 not interactive part of media here with the Fallout Amazon series, which interestingly has 41 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:27.400 already been renewed for a second season before the first one even dropped. And 42 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.000 that's also because they got a really nice chunk of change that they're getting for 43 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:38.240 moving the whole shooting of it and everything to California. So that's cool news 44 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.759 that everybody gets to watch it. We'll know that we're at least hitting a 45 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:46.479 second season. Beyond that, obviously they gotta see what happens here. But 46 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.439 Mark, I mean, you're the one that has a lot more familiarity with 47 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:53.319 the series than I do. I've played like parts of New Vegas and three 48 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:59.199 and four here and then what usually happens to me with Western RPGs happens where 49 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.800 I stopped playing and then I don't come back. But I've seen a lot 50 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:08.280 of people say that it's making them want to play the you know, play 51 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.319 games in the series. And of course it helps that it. You know 52 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.639 a lot of these games are on game Pass and all that stuff, so 53 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.639 they're available for people very easily, or you can go, you know, 54 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:23.480 find them in a sale. Yeah, they already cares well, but I'm 55 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.360 just saying there's people that just they don't they're not going to go and try 56 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.720 to find them. I'm sure they've probably had them on sales. Also to 57 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.720 follow seventy six is free right now too for this week if you get it 58 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:38.959 off Amazon Prime. Uh So a lot of people getting into that. They 59 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.800 they're fall seventy six has like their highest player count in a long time as 60 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.800 well, thanks to the series. What do you what do you think about 61 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.319 it? I thought it was mostly a good a great show up until like 62 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:56.639 the last two episodes or they kind of bungle it with the continuity. I 63 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:02.199 won't spoil it today, Expequence, you've seen it, but they they they 64 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.399 like the you know, BA tested claims are not reconting it but they basically 65 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:14.000 delete Fallout one and two and New Vegas from like the timeline, which is 66 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.160 really weird. That's interesting that they're gonna drop Like I understand, okay, 67 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.959 fall Out one and two. They technically that was by a different studio, 68 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:26.439 you know, well so New Vegas, right, but like New Vegas at 69 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:32.240 least Obsidian is with the same team, Like you know, technically the Test 70 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.680 and Upsidian could decide to come together. Did you another fall Out New Vegas 71 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.720 that they wanted? Well, yeah, they're all in by Microsoft now, 72 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:46.360 but so yeah, I won't cut into why what what, like that whole 73 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.439 Hornet's nest, but I'll just say I didn't like it, and I think, 74 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.000 like I'm trying to think of like what's inn like what's another like long 75 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.680 running like RPG series that has continuity between them. I mean, you can't 76 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:06.519 say like Fine Fantasy because they're all different or right, I mean maybe yea, 77 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:15.560 almost all series have some kind of they're not continuing, right, Yeah, 78 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.800 so yeah, I guess it's tired for me to like Tales would probably 79 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:24.680 be the the big one, right, not Tales Trails. The Trail series 80 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:29.240 that's all continuous, right, and they have even branching storylines off of that, 81 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.399 and uh, it's it's a huge weave of stories if you try to 82 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.160 play it all. I'm not. I guess another good example would be sweaking 83 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:41.120 in like that actual chronology. Uh and the one of the games kind of 84 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.959 screws it up. It's still there. Uh So yeah, for them to 85 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.800 like delete to like three of the three games out of the six or whatever, 86 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:53.519 seven or whatever, it seems really weird. Aside from that, though, 87 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.319 the first time episodes were like really great. Uh. I liked uh 88 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.639 La Pernell I think that's her name. Yeah. Uh, she's like really 89 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.480 good. Yeah, she was great at the ball Dweller. Yeah, Lucy. 90 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.439 Uh. I don't really know her live acting and stuff that well, 91 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.040 I don't watch Yellow Jackets. I know her from like Structured Prodigy, where 92 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.920 she voiced like someone fairly different, but you can still kind of hear it, 93 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:27.199 like hear her voice of Tad the Maximus guy. He's okay, he 94 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:32.399 gets better. He seems a little goofy in the first like two episodes or 95 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:38.839 like a little directionless, but he does have an nice arc and the ghoul 96 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:44.120 is good. You know, Walton fantastic as a goal Like, yeah, 97 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.279 just in the parts that I've watched, like anytime he's on screen, I 98 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.199 want to keep watching. And he's right, he has a really Actually, 99 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:56.600 they actually do a lot more with him in the past, like in the 100 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.839 pre nuke stuff than I thought they would because, you know, the first 101 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.439 time, so it opens with like him at a kid's birthday party, like 102 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.079 kind of slumming it. I would say, as like the like the cowboy 103 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.240 clown or cowboy. Yeah, and then within ten minutes, so California is 104 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.160 nuked and you know that's it. But they go back to him quite a 105 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.800 bit in later episodes, like what he was doing before, which is pretty 106 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.720 interesting. Uh, there's a what did you think of the U I've heard 107 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.600 I've seen a lot of mixed talk about the the Brotherhood stuff, like how 108 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:37.720 much the way they're involved and ah, so you've seen the first three episodes, 109 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:43.480 right, they do kind of There is a big question of who Maximus 110 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:48.559 has, like a friend Dane. Ah, it was like the more like 111 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:54.759 she's she's the one who gets like the job first that she gets injured and 112 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.639 everyone thinks it's Maximus who did it, or he might know who did it. 113 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:01.879 They could do solve that by the end of the show, which is 114 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:07.600 good. Ah, the Brotherhood stuff is always kind of a little weird because 115 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.200 the the the institution is of goofy or you know, just the idea of 116 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.639 it. Like, but I think they I think the armor looks really good, 117 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.720 Like yeah, yeah, you can some of it's a little c g 118 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.240 I, which is fine, but you can tell that's a pretty practical looking 119 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.320 suit or you know, a practical prop for at least most of it. 120 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.480 So good on them for that. Uh. I think the world, like 121 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.360 the setting or like, you know, the whole you know, it looks 122 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:43.159 great the show, yeah, with it following the like because it follows basically 123 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:48.320 like three different stories, you know, yeah there's yeah, well they also 124 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.840 introduced a fourth later on. But yeah it's Lucy, the Maximus, the 125 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.639 brothers brother, the Steel guy, and then the Vault guy or the ghoul. 126 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.039 Sorry they introduced they go back to the vault, uh sooner, Like 127 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.960 they started going back to the vault pretty soon with Lucy's brother. There's like 128 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.879 a mystery there as well, which is not defined that well. Yeah, 129 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.720 I think that first episode does a really good job of like setting everything for 130 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:24.080 people that aren't familiar a lot with the series, like you kind of get 131 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.639 the idea, and I mean it's very much like intro to Fallout World or 132 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799 you know, uh, the one. I mean, Lucy is like a 133 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.600 very fresh faced character. Like that's kind of the whole point is she's very 134 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.519 exactly I mean, because it's supposed to kind of be like the same way 135 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.879 you as the player character, aren't familiar with this world until you step out 136 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.960 in it. So yeah, the one thing you'll see this I think in 137 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.000 the episode six as well. I won't spoil that one, but the one 138 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:58.360 funny thing about Lucy's character is she is an incredibly sexually frustrated yeah, Like 139 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:03.720 it's hilarious. And the fact that they actually like talk, Like there's a 140 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.759 conversation in the first episode with her and her cousin. Yes, her cousin 141 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.639 like wants to marry her, and she's like, no, we played we 142 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.559 mets wrong. We were we were like teenagers, but now we have to 143 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.200 repopulate the vault, so you can't do that, and it's like what, 144 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.120 Yeah, like like playing around with your cousin is not great for her. 145 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:28.360 Populating like it has it has a decent amount of humor, a little some 146 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:33.399 of it's a little like it's not in your face about it, Like it's 147 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.480 not you know, it's not front and center, but it's kind of like 148 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.639 more in the periphery. But it's still funny, like the uh, I 149 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.639 forget the character's name, but the shop owner in the second episode, Yeah, 150 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.879 characters funny. Yeah, she tells her to like get out. I 151 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.200 told you to get out of here like three times, and then see what 152 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:58.399 happens. Yeah, having the scientists character from and you know he's the guy 153 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.720 from uh well, Michael Emerson. Yes, yeah, it was hilarious to 154 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.600 me because I don't think you watched it, but he was in a show 155 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.440 called Person Interest. Yes I did. I love that, Okay, him 156 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:16.159 and the dog and then you know, just like yes, you can't get 157 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.200 away from dog, can't you. Yeah. He don't even show like two 158 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.879 episodes, so right. Yeah, the way that they deal with that, 159 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.000 that's interesting. Well, that like a lot of that place. It feels 160 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.320 very much like the parts I've played of Fallout, Like you get a lot 161 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.840 of that. The humor is very like you could tell Todd Howard really had 162 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.399 a lot. I don't know how much exactly he had to do with it, 163 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.039 but he seems very happy with it, and it seems like there is 164 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.759 a lot they they made sure to pay omas to it. It's not like, 165 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.639 you know, I'm sure that there are probably people that are like, 166 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.159 oh, they messed this up or they didn't do this right or whatever. 167 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.320 But from like what Walton Goggins said, you know, he's like, if 168 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.559 we made this all for the fans, they wouldn't be anywhere near as good, 169 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.399 right. I just I somewhat disagree with that, because they make they 170 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:16.919 make choices later on that are like really pissing off the fans. So it's 171 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.639 a weird. It's really weird what they did. Like we can talk about 172 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.200 it later on next week, probably because you'll probably finish the show by then, 173 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.320 but yeah, they just make some really awkward choices that does kind of 174 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:35.080 diminish the show by the end. It starts off, starts off great, 175 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.679 and then by the end you're like, wait, what just happened? Yeah, 176 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.679 that'd be interesting. I see a lot of I mean, it's it's 177 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.720 always very easy for everyone to keep praise at the beginning, right, and 178 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:52.360 then like if I was gonna review review it, like I'd see like the 179 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.919 first episodes, I'd give like nine or ten. It's like I think they 180 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.519 were actually like all really good episode six and seven. It's only eightisode show 181 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.840 episode six and seven. I'd say, like we're like sevens. Yeah, 182 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.960 and then the last episode is like a five or a four just because of 183 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.919 like what it did to like the continuity or you know, just like not 184 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.720 even that, but just like it raises a lot of like weird questions the 185 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.879 show can't can't like answer, like you can tell you can tell the show 186 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.360 it's made by the West World guys or you know, the team behind that, 187 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.519 because they I think the part of it is that they had to. 188 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.720 There's a they didn't having a few mysteries, uh like sitting up a few 189 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:41.559 mysteries, that's fine, but like they set up so much stuff that they 190 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.879 can't answer, and they won't like they won't even bother to try to answer 191 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:50.519 because like they didn't think of it like logically through, so that'll be an 192 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:56.679 issue. But why would you say that they can't answer, because like I 193 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:01.919 said, they don't. They don't they didn't think through about like what's what's 194 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.360 the problem or like how can we solve this? But it's like said something, 195 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.399 Well, they have they just have like a line or like have a 196 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:15.320 situation but they won't solve it, or they you know, and trying to 197 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:20.960 really tats are on this like a few issues. That's the problem, right, 198 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.679 I understand. I mean I personally don't mind, but since the show 199 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:26.080 is so fresh, I don't want to spoil it for people that, right, 200 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.879 you know, let's just say, yeah, let's just say, like 201 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:37.639 the main the main bad guy in the show is really weirdly written, or 202 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:43.799 like her situation does not make any sense at all. Okay, I'm guessing 203 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:48.679 you're talking about the the one that appears at the beginning. Yeah, she's 204 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.600 one who breaks in the vault thirty two. Yeah right, okay. Also, 205 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.919 I love you know, I just because it's being such a big Twins 206 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:06.840 Twin peaks having him be the dada. Yeah, it's fantastic. I wish 207 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.120 I had more him. Yeah, like he agree. Well, I mean 208 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.320 that's the whole point of getting her to go outside, so that kind of 209 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.559 makes sense. Like, yeah, but we have a nice like a flashbacker, 210 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:19.960 like they never flash back to him at all, or like him like 211 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:25.120 raising her and her brother, or I mean he he has like five or 212 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:29.000 six lines in the first episode and he comes back in the last episode and 213 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.120 that's it. Yeah. So I mean, I mean, like, I 214 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.039 mean, at least for three you play enough of that, because it's the 215 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.159 whole damn intro where like Liam Neeson is her dad and he actually, you 216 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.840 know, you spend a little time with him before you get ejected out. 217 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:51.279 But this doesn't really have that at all. You know, it's just like 218 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.399 the party scene and that's about it. Yeah, I think, you know, 219 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:57.159 it's that's part of it's the pressure of kind of you want to make 220 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:03.759 sure you keep things onwhat moving to get people hooked and then yeah, but 221 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.359 also I would say it's also kind of a fatal flaw because like she's like, 222 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.000 well, her big question is signing her dad, and he's such like 223 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.039 a non factor in the first episode. It'd be like, Okay, I 224 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:22.039 get you know, yeah, sure, but I really do like the world 225 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.559 design, Like I think the Vault was really good. Anything about the show, 226 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:27.960 like production wise, it was really great, and the cast is all 227 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.480 good and everything, but it's just the writing, especially later on, that's 228 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.880 just kind of wonky. Do you feel like there's like, let's say, 229 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:44.039 somebody hasn't played this series at all right, and they watched this show and 230 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.079 they go, oh, man, I really want to play these Now is 231 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.880 there one that you say, what is this based off the most? I'd 232 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.960 say Fallot three because it's a whole finding your dad thing. Yeah, that's 233 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:03.279 whole crux. The uh it kind of follows follows the same basic plot as 234 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:10.400 well, you know, getting getting the first town, having stuff happen or 235 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:15.759 you know, and then getting companions along the way. Uh. Yeah. 236 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:21.160 I think that Michael Emerson or Michael Emerson's was a ted weird because it seemed 237 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.640 like he was working for the Enclave but he also had a pit boy. 238 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.920 It's like what, yes, why would he have this? Or you know, 239 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:32.680 like I love the way that they like they communicated the thing at the 240 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:37.240 beginning with where she's doing the the marriage proposal to deal and they all just 241 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:42.000 like basically do the equivalent of texting her back with the boys or whatever. 242 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.720 It's like, that's good, that's a good reference. Yeah. Her interview 243 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.640 at the start was pretty funny when she was like technical skills in her parents 244 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:53.079 and it's like, yep, why don't you just say your special stat is 245 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.799 like I'm highly intelligent, I have eight points in that or something, yeah, 246 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:02.000 and then go, no, I was gonna say that on the whole. 247 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.599 I think the show is good, but just like the last few episodes 248 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:11.240 really like a bitter taste in my mouth. But I think, like you 249 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:18.119 watching it or like a non fan, okay, kind of like breeze byst 250 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.640 them, you know, right exactly, we're not gonna get that whole Like 251 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:26.000 I mean, I guess like you would with any everything that guy told you. 252 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.160 It's like there's probably a lot of references that I'm not getting that I'm 253 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.799 sure you did. There are probably references I don't I'm not getting because I'm 254 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.599 not like obsessed with the show, with the franchise or anything. But I 255 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.240 can there are stuff I can point out, like the cartoon in the first 256 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:45.039 episode they're watching it, like I remember picking up picking up that crap, 257 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:52.319 or like certain like uh stuff in like the house or you know, just 258 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.200 you know, certain environmental stuff I can pick up probably better than you can, 259 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.519 or better than some people. But I'm gonna say that you breeze past 260 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:07.359 me, right. The one I think that happens in episode maybe episode five? 261 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:12.200 Uh, do you know who Matt Barry is? Yes, he pops 262 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:18.359 up in it. He's real good, awesome, Okay, I definitely gonna 263 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.119 make sure I get to then. Yeah, I'm sure that whenever, because 264 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.160 Randy's watching it with his wife and she's i think even a bigger fallout fan 265 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.960 than he is. So like, I'm sure when they're watching it, there's 266 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.880 gonna be a lot of great stuff that they catch, you know, But 267 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.680 I'm glad that these kind of things exist and that this is good, right, 268 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.160 like they could have it could have been bad and then we're talking about 269 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:49.160 another Oh man, a bad video game adaptation. Whatever. It's great that 270 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.359 this is great. People are enjoying it. It's already got a second season, 271 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.319 so you can already know watching it that they're going to continue this. 272 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:03.400 It's not something you're gonna just watch and then it's over. And it kind 273 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.720 of led into obviously speculation about, well, Todd, what about your other 274 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:15.680 big series that people enjoy? What about that? Uh? He says that 275 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.880 he's apparently been approached several times about Elder Scrolls, and he said, no, 276 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.400 I worry. Do you think that's more has to do with like people 277 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.559 going to compare with the Game of Thrones or do you think it's like what 278 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.720 do you think his reasoning for saying no would be, I think a problem 279 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.720 with Elders with Elder Scrolls, honestly, is it so generic that like what 280 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.680 can you do? Like there's not like a huge story involved with it, 281 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:42.279 so it would just be create like just creating stuffs like kind of whole cloth. 282 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.920 And I don't think if you compared to Game of Thrones, because Game 283 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:49.400 of Thrones had like defined characters and relationship, right, well, I just 284 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:55.720 mean, like, okay, it's another fantasy, you know. I mean 285 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.640 I think if they did like an Elder Scrolls TV show, I'd probably more 286 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.519 magic in it, or a lot more you know, right, that type 287 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.640 of stuff, because Game of Thrones certainly didn't like that. But considering like 288 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.640 we've had the Witcher show already, We've had Game of Thrones already, like 289 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.200 you know, the Dungeons and Dragons movie, Like, we've had a lot 290 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.400 of that. So like Fallout is sp Fallout feels so much different than things, 291 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.240 right, it feels like something we don't see a lot. Yeah, 292 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.920 we had West World, it's made by some of the same people, but 293 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.319 it feels unique as whereas like you're saying, Eldest Girls would feel like, 294 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.480 hey, here's another fantasy thing. Yeah. I mean the closest thing you 295 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.599 probably compare a Fallout to is like The Silo. Ah, yeah, that's 296 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:45.079 but that's a gay drama show or you know, much more grounded in like 297 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:49.880 reality than Fallout, because Fallout is intentionally kind of going It's not campy, 298 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:56.519 but it's kind of going for more like irreverent take on stuff. It was 299 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:04.960 a great character in I think it's episode eight or seven that is YenS because 300 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.519 it's it's a guy obsessed with auto quality in the in the fucking you know, 301 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.240 post apocalypse. Yeah, I get that. I could definitely see that. 302 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.440 Yeah, Like it doesn't matter the world basically ended. I still care 303 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:23.200 about my damn audio. Yeah, it's like, oh you can't get you 304 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:29.319 can't get Oh you want the original pressings because they had the right aombie you 305 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.440 know, they had the right mids, highs and bass, And I'm just 306 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:38.079 like, wow, Okay, So I mean I'll certainly watch season two when 307 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:42.680 it comes out in a year or two or whatever. But right, uh, 308 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.920 yeah, I just think like the writing did kind of let it down 309 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:52.680 by the end, but I'm the whole still recommendable, you know. Yeah, 310 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.319 for sure, and yeah, I think episode six, I want to 311 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:03.000 say it's episode six is when like Lucy and Maximus actually do have like much 312 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.160 more like they get together and they have much more of like a friendship, 313 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.160 and that actually really helps crown the characters as well, because you get a 314 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.119 lot more of his I want to say, motivation, but like a lot 315 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.119 more his as a as a character, because I have the problem in the 316 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.880 first few episodes just he doesn't seem he's pretty passive as a character, and 317 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.000 it's like once he actually gets involved, it's when he gets better. Yeah. 318 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:32.640 I do love the scene when they need the passing of the Brotherhood suit. 319 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.480 Yeah, which one when he when the first Titus gets not gets out 320 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:45.160 of it or yeah the first one Okay, yeah, yeah that was well, 321 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.880 and then it plays off the whole like why did they do the whole 322 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.440 sort of why he joined the Brotherhood and everything, what happened to him, 323 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:56.119 And then that moment I'm just like, there's no way because you can feel 324 00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.920 that like, man, he better not do what I think he's gonna do. 325 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.920 And then he actually does the opposite, and I was like, Okay, 326 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.279 yes, totally down with this, and then I love the like him 327 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.039 playing around in it and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it 328 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:12.680 feels like something totally anybody would do if they get get in that the first 329 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.240 time. So I think it's also the show is also kind of interesting because 330 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.400 it cast a lot of comedians in like main role or not main roles, 331 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:26.200 but gets roles. Like I think it makes sense for the world though, 332 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.880 because there's, like you said, there's a lot of humor that well yeah, 333 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:33.880 but they're not like playing at They're not playing comedic characters, right, 334 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:38.359 But it's much more like the Bill Burr situation in The Mandalorian, like casting 335 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:44.000 a comedic actor but having him to do like a dramatic role or semi dramatic 336 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.200 role. You know. Yeah, for sure, I liked it well enough. 337 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.839 Uh. You know, once you talk about it next week, maybe 338 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.200 we can get into more nitty gritty part of it or yeah, definitely give 339 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:59.079 people the time to well what do you think about Uh? I know we've 340 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.160 talked about this a few when other shows have come on, but a lot 341 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.440 of talk about why Amazon did the opposite of what they normally do when they 342 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.519 have a big series where they make it normally they make them episodic and this 343 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.359 one they just dropped it all together, and a lot of people were saying 344 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.839 that this kind of ruins the whole keeping the show and the zeitgeist kind of 345 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:25.079 thing. I don't know, I don't I don't care. I think the 346 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.839 show kind of worked almost like you know, it's like a well, like 347 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.559 a six hour or seven hour movie, you know, like and it's not 348 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.880 like I also don't think they show cliffhanger as well, or it's not like 349 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.200 episode every episode doesn't end like some huge cliffhanger, so you're not like waiting, 350 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.039 dying to see the next week or anything. So I think the way 351 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.200 it did it was perfectly fine. Also, I don't care. I mean, 352 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.440 even if the show comes out weekly, I would probably still rather just 353 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.960 you know, wait till it's all done and then just watch it all won't 354 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.240 go anyway. So yeah, that's what I saw too, is well, 355 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:07.160 it's like how many people are going to watch it? I mean, episodically 356 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.119 when it's something that's not necessarily like when you're trying to get people to really 357 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.240 watch the show, and how many people are going to drop off and then 358 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.759 be like, oh, I'll just watch it when it's all out yeah, 359 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:22.200 Like, how many shows do you currently watch weekly anyway? Me just like 360 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.119 a few. You know, I don't watch any I mean unless it's like 361 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.480 the only show that I actually regularly watch would be like Star Trek, Change 362 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.480 Exchange in the World, and Prodigy, Doctor Who, and that's you know 363 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:40.160 when that's on, right, it's about it how for me when that comes 364 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:45.480 back? Yeah, but as someone who just like you know, Marathon the 365 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.359 first season of Power Rangers has a lot a lot more fun for me to 366 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.759 just watch twenty episodes in a row. Then, Oh no, definitely, 367 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.960 I think, but I understand people's thought process of like TV shows have always 368 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:02.240 kind of been this way of if you really want them to kind of like 369 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.519 be talked about or have that when the show is airing kind of thing. 370 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.359 Like it was weird to me almost Disney did it with the the new X 371 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.759 Men series because it's, uh, it's animated, Like I would have thought 372 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.640 they would have just dropped that all at once. Uh, But I can 373 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.880 kind of see that in a way of just oh, when the new episodes 374 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.319 comes out or the two new episodes come out, people talk about it. 375 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.759 You know, they did they did that with that What If show? Yeah, 376 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.960 what if show? I don't know, you can make a point for 377 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.359 both, but also any know, these things aren't on TV anymore, so 378 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.960 who cares? Yeah, most people are not actually watching them live on TV 379 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.000 either're watching them on whatever streamer later, right you know? So uh that's 380 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.039 kind of I think what's her TV the most is you don't have the big 381 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.759 outside of the absolutely huge ones that still exist, Like I think, like 382 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:57.960 you know, House of Dragon and a few others that have the water cooler 383 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.720 moments, you don't really have that anymore. With TV shows. It just 384 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.319 becomes like, oh, what do you watch? Oh? Okay, I 385 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.559 watched this? Oh, and you find you might find one or two shows 386 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.759 that you both watch. I mean it's a problem also, too many options, 387 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.119 And then you know, yeah that too. The landscape is so splintered 388 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.960 now you can literally never get out of the niche of shows that you like 389 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.480 because there's the next one for you. It's always funny to me to look 390 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.920 up old shows us to like that were canceled to do like low ratings. 391 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.400 It's like, oh, this show on my gout eight million viewers. That's 392 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.359 why I was canceled because of low ratings. And it's like if the show 393 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.480 got that now, it would be like the number one or number two show, 394 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:44.599 right. Yeah. So it's like you look at the the the ratings 395 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.400 for for WW right now, I'm like, yeah, man, that would 396 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.599 have been nothing back then when everybody was watching it. But now it's like 397 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.519 they got to be happy with that because they know more people are watching on 398 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.640 they're watching YouTube highlights, so they're watching the shorter version on Hulu or whatever 399 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.519 later, like you know, So it is what it is. That's that's 400 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.599 how TV is. But it's good when you have these uh these ones based 401 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.440 on video games that are good and and that's what I'm excited about is hopefully 402 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:18.160 we'll have more between the movies and the shows, uh and not necessarily the 403 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.519 bad stuff that we used to have. Uh respect those video game meditations because 404 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.079 they're probably going to be the next thing until we you know, run out 405 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.880 of the ones that people make. A can't Marvel and DC anymore. So 406 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:37.079 yeah, yeah, I mean it's gonna really be interesting what happens with Wolverine 407 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.319 and Deadpool if that can even jump start uh that, because you know, 408 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.359 they're talking about X Men and all that stuff, and I'm just like, 409 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.480 something's gotta keep them afloat until then. I think Deadpool and Wolverine will be 410 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.440 actually a pretty big hit. But the problem is that'll probably be the end 411 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.240 of it. I mean, then they make a dead Pool four, you 412 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.640 know, right, if they can, if they can get but I mean 413 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.359 like getting people interested in the MCU in general again, Oh well, I 414 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.279 think that's that's a problem. Is like the MCU has exhausted all their big 415 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.119 characters or you know, the big property. So it's like, yeah, 416 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:18.799 we're getting a fucking uh uh oh mister is it mister Wonderful or I forget 417 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.160 the character's name, wonder Man, that's it a Wonderman TV show and an 418 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.119 Echo TV show, And it's like, what the fuck is you know? 419 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.000 Who the fuck cares? Like? Right, I mean, we are getting 420 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.599 some bigger ones, but now we have to wait. They're not all coming 421 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.960 bam bam bam. Like you're getting the Fantastic four again, you know you're 422 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.319 this one. You'll get the X Men eventually if if the ones that are 423 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:47.240 in process now do decently enough. It's just like, I wonder how much 424 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.240 what is a win for them now that a billion is not a success, 425 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.440 right, Like, what is is it five hundred million? Is it two 426 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.640 hundred million? Like what is considered a success for them now is what I'm 427 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:05.519 wondering. Uh, yeah, because that second is they got too high on 428 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:12.400 Avengers level money exactly. Yeah, and you know, Man three sucked, 429 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:17.240 but it maybe turn to profit like a very small one, but like you 430 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.720 know, Miss Marvel too, or the Marbles was certainly Yeah, Like the 431 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.119 only one that got even close was Guardians three, right, right, and 432 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:30.240 then everything else paled in comparison. So it's definitely going to be interesting to 433 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.599 see what happens with like what is their new eals? You know that that 434 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.920 kind of bomb to an extent. Yeah, but they had other movies after 435 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:43.319 that, like I'm just talking about in this recent string of stuff that has 436 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.400 really fallen off a clift. Yeah, and even the TV shows don't seem 437 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.960 to have the same interest at all. You know. It's yeah, so 438 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:57.440 we shall see what's going on with this. We'll we'll talk about this more 439 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.640 next week. I will probably try to make considered every to finish watching the 440 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.240 series and we can get into some nitty gritty stuff or whatever there and and 441 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.119 give people more of an option to Okay, we're gonna get into the spoilers. 442 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.319 So if you haven't watched it by the second week that it's out, 443 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:17.200 that's kind of on you at that point. But yeah, let's move on 444 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:27.279 here to talking about another movie franchise that is also they've gotten a million of 445 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.920 gazillion games, but especially this year, it feels like everything Star Wars just 446 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:37.039 getting remastered or something else. But you showed off the story trailer for Star 447 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:44.720 Wars Outlaws. Yeah, what did you? It's about like three minutes. 448 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.039 What did you think of what they showed here? Anything impressing you on that? 449 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:55.039 Ah? Two things jumped out at me. One was about halfway through 450 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.400 it really looked like an Assassin's Creed game for a second when you're like doing 451 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.359 parkour around like some city. Ah, I was like, is this person 452 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.800 gonna climb up with the wall? Like? It looked really almost I almost 453 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:13.760 thought that was gonna happen. And yeah, the second thing, and I 454 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.960 know you don't particularly want to talk about this, and I'm pretty tired of 455 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.800 it it already as well, but what the fuck is up with the main 456 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.559 character? I mean, I don't to me, it depends on the lighting 457 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:32.840 and what picture you grab, and I'm not I don't particularly care about like 458 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:39.239 overall attracting miss for you know, who you're playing as like that much. 459 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.039 But she looks like a stereotypical like lesbian trucker from the eighties, And it's 460 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.639 like, yeah, I mean, who do they need to like, I'm 461 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:53.480 not like, I don't know about I mean, the model this is based 462 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:58.559 off of this doesn't look something like that. So that's the thing that like, 463 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.519 that's what's like making me crazy. Is like the actress her name is 464 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:08.719 like something weird, right, Oh what is it? Yeah, Humberly Gonzales. 465 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.920 She's incredibly attractive, like right right, you know, And so to 466 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.920 get this fairly beautiful woman to voice the character and presumably mocap and basic you 467 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.599 know, base it off her. Yeah, and she taking like you know, 468 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.920 not eight nine ten women depending on what you think you know, you're 469 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:34.719 on and turning into her too. But I mean, again, like I 470 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.559 don't know how this works. I'm not going to pretend to know how this 471 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:43.119 stuff works. About is it only like they can base it off her, 472 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.719 but it's not supposed to look exactly like her? Does that involve more money 473 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:52.559 if it's based exactly off of her? Uh, it's not like if okay, 474 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.800 but if that's the case, she's not like to be a big actress, 475 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:01.679 you know, right, But like, yeah, I just I think 476 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.280 about the Cellar Blade thing. You know, they got the beautiful Korean actor, 477 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.440 Korean model, right, but she doesn't look exactly like her either. 478 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.159 They they did the anime face with No, that's that's what I'm That's what 479 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.199 I was gonna say, is you had a beautiful woman and then they are 480 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:22.800 more beautiful beautiful and they are extremely ugly. Yea to me, it's just 481 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:28.719 it's different cultures and what they're trying to sell the game for. We don't 482 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.599 know if Disney had a hand in that as well, right, Like, 483 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.960 remember this is not just Soft deciding this. This is a big ass corporation 484 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.559 that also decides every minutia moment of what goes into this game and what. 485 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.239 Yeah, but then but then you know, look at the Fall Letter games, 486 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.119 you know, the Star Wars, Like, yeah, like it's it's 487 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:55.960 a it's a it's I I agree to that extent, right, Like they 488 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.320 made the guys look more like the guys and the girl and the women don't 489 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.880 look necessarily like the women do the models? Yeah, you can point that 490 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.320 out. You could definitely point out Star Wars Jedi. They the well, 491 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.280 the main female actress looks exactly like how if she looks in real life? 492 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.079 Right, But I think it's just I don't know if it's the studio. 493 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.599 I don't know, if it's Disney decided they don't want her to be like 494 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.360 the next face of Star Wars, or I don't know what the decision comes 495 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:37.400 down to to exactly how they decide to animate. I know the devs have 496 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.719 talked about that it's not easy to do these one to one things for everyone, 497 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.840 right, also tends to cut corners sometimes with that kind of thing. 498 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:53.239 Everyone is fine, but the main character is Yeah, I just think it's 499 00:37:53.320 --> 00:38:00.000 like it's extremely off putting. I don't think most you know, I don't 500 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.840 think that like most guys want, you know, they don't they don't need 501 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:09.480 like a Laura Croft or like the sexiest character ever. But someone somewhatally pleasing 502 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:16.440 is nice. Like I mean, I particularly like, Okay, if we're 503 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.920 if we're going to get into this, I think it just to me, 504 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.320 it depends on what we're talking about here, right, because I think the 505 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:29.559 Stellar Blade thing has been absolutely blown out of proportion. It is absolutely ridiculous. 506 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.519 It's gotten into levels that go beyond just the video game, to the 507 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:40.840 point where we're only talking about what the the fake pixel uh female character looks 508 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:47.320 like and not the actual game. And that's my problem is that, look, 509 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.719 developers and and whoever makes these decisions, whether it's for Star Wars, 510 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.719 whether it's sell Blade, whether it's uh FO fans and Rebird, whether it's 511 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:02.079 whatever insert character, whether they're you think they're ugly or not, it's all 512 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.559 in the eye of the beholder, don't I don't know why X is it 513 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.920 DEI I don't know. I don't really want to get into that. I've 514 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:16.639 avoided talking about that the entire time. Yeah, i'd say this is a 515 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:22.159 game that it just makes it really stand out to me. But I mean 516 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.039 it's also with the setting of the character, like it does it does it 517 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.360 would it help? Maybe some folks will buy it or not buy it because 518 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.159 of that, But it's like, I think a lot of people just aren't 519 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.760 going to care it's Star Wars. That that's position. Actually the opposite is 520 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.239 he doesn't care because it'll be soft, right. But I mean, like 521 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.679 the fact that what was just you know, if you're watching on video. 522 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.840 I just played the trailer and and the stuff they've shown of the game looks 523 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.480 interesting, Like I'm interested because it's different. It's not you're not playing a 524 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.159 Jedi, you're not playing other You're playing different. You're playing like a Han 525 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.880 Solo type character in this game. And it's I don't know. To me, 526 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.880 it is cooler than just focusing on whether you think the female character that 527 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.199 you're playing as is hot or not. Right, you know, I don't 528 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:19.800 Yeah, just go well, no, they didn't cast you know, Carrot 529 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.159 Top or the equivalent of him in nineteen seventy as Han Solo. They cast 530 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:30.000 a very all American boy, right, But I mean that's different. You're 531 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:36.320 trying to start the entire Star Wars and this is a movie, like you're 532 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.559 I think it's different when you're watching something, right, you're watching it. 533 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.800 It needs to be aesthetically pleasing. There needs to be somebody that's hot, 534 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.679 needs to get somebody that's in the door. Right, it happens with everything. 535 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.960 Like I'm just saying like, yeah, but I don't want to I 536 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.880 don't think most people are going to want to play a game. And it's 537 00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.000 nothing against her at all, they don't want to play a game. We 538 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.679 look, we play as the as the Amy Scenarios character from The Mandalorian for 539 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.119 twenty or forty hours, you know, and I'll get Amy Scenarios is actually 540 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.039 attractive. But they have to really uglier up for the Mandalorian intend you know, 541 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.760 because he's you know, living on a fucking you know, in the 542 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:24.119 desert for you know, forty or fifty years. Yeah, I don't think 543 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.280 it's I think it's a weird it's a weird trailer. Uh, you know, 544 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.559 we can move off it. The game will fivey okay, but I 545 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.880 ain't gonnapply. The problem is a pied just come and go like a lot 546 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.199 of crack these days, like let'll come out, it'll be it'll be talked 547 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.840 about for a week maybe and then yeah, thank gone. You know, 548 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.639 I don't know. I mean, I want to see how much of the 549 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:51.400 Ubisoft stuff is going to be in that game, right, We haven't that 550 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.079 yet. That's the other thing. The pricing around is fucking ridiculous, right, 551 00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.119 Yes, they well it's seventy dollars for the standard as you would expect 552 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.199 that. They have two different editions. One of them has the Season Pass 553 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.199 with the DLC and all that stuff, and then you get the early access 554 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:15.000 and then there's another one that's one hundred and twenty dollars that you get more 555 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:21.079 of it. Yeah, you get more stuff plus the three days early access, 556 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:27.000 and it is what what games are you know today? Uh, you 557 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.599 don't have to buy it, like, yeah, speak with your wallet if 558 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.239 you don't like the fact that you be self charged one hundred and twenty dollars 559 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.000 for that stuff that's in the Ultimate editions, you get their wallet, don't 560 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.800 buy it, right, Yeah? Is it outrageous? Yes? I agree? 561 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.000 Oh, I think it's funny. The Ultimate Edition is one hundred and 562 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:51.679 thirty bucks USD. Yeah, and in candidate's two hundred and if you did 563 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.320 if you did the you know, the currency difference it actually so it'll would 564 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.400 only be about one. So they even over a charge there as well. 565 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:09.280 Wow. Yeah that's yeah. But I don't know, I think it just 566 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.320 kind of depends for me on like what else is coming out around that time, 567 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.719 Like if there's like if we get to August and like around that time, 568 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.320 there's like nothing else I'm interested in enough to really think about it. 569 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:30.440 Again. My my other issue is that it's a story based game. Uh. 570 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.400 And it's also you be Soft and how quickly is that thing going to 571 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.880 be at fifty dollars dollars? You know? And that's it's it almost makes 572 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:43.639 me want to do the same thing I did for Prince of Persia where it's 573 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.760 like, oh, I'll just subscribe to you be Soft plus for a month. 574 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.079 I mean, that's the thing is there. I'm pimping that thing because 575 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.159 you can spend one hundred and thirty bucks in Ultimate Dation or you know, 576 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:57.199 rent or buy me Soft Plus for a month and get the Ultimate Dation with 577 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.400 that. It's like, yeah, and you still at the three days early 578 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.679 thing, which is hilarious to me. Like it's like, I guess you're 579 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:12.519 hoping to God that the person will just forget and stay subscribed for another couple 580 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.320 of months before they figure out that they still subscribed. I don't know what 581 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.000 they're doing, because I mean, other than that, like you're I got 582 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:29.480 the Ultimate Edition for essentially eighteen bucks, and then I can go and and 583 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.400 get the standard edition and I still saved a lot of money, right, 584 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.679 you know, So it's it's a man, I get what they're doing, 585 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:44.480 but it's like I don't think it works like that where if you're it's I 586 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.639 think it's nice because the way that Xbox does it is kind of shitty if 587 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:54.559 you're a longtime game Pass subscriber, right, But with us it's kind of 588 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.519 weird because they probably know that there's not people that are just subscribing to you 589 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.840 Soft Plus all the time, so like it's a way to get you in 590 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.039 the door, and then they're hoping that you'll like some other Ubisoft stuff and 591 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:13.320 stay subscribed. And I don't know, it's better in the way that you 592 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.480 don't feel like, oh, people that paid one hundred and twenty dollars get 593 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.960 the three days early. But I'm a game Pass subscriber and I have to 594 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.679 wait, and I've been subscribed to game Pass for all this time, So 595 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:29.559 I kind of get people's feelings on it both ways. But you know that's 596 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.079 the thing, if you're going to offer me that, I think, now, 597 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.639 I get a lot of people that aren't into uh, you know what, 598 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.440 they're not watching paying attention to the gaming stuff all the time. I'm 599 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:45.280 probably not even gonna know this, right. How much are they going to 600 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:50.079 promote that in any kind of ads and stuff that they show of the game, 601 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.559 Like, I see this all. I see that ad all the time 602 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:53.800 now when I watch something on YouTube. But like, I wonder, if 603 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.599 you watch this on with your regular shows and stuff, how much gubusoft plus 604 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.400 is going to show up in the ad And you're gonna get a lot more 605 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.920 people subscribing through ubisaw Plus you finish the game, and maybe they don't even 606 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:13.159 buy the actual game at all, So you've got that issue as well. 607 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.719 This is not like a multiplayer game the deeple are going to continue to play 608 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:21.440 constantly. This is a game that they're gonna just probably play and that's it. 609 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.159 It's over. So until they come out with the DLC with you know, 610 00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.440 who knows how long that's gonna take. Is one of them gonna be 611 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.280 out before the end of the year, or are they both coming out in 612 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:38.519 twenty twenty five. We'll see. But yeah, uh, it's a cool 613 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.320 three minute trailer. Good to know that we know what's gonna gonna happen in 614 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:49.599 the story. I'm intrigued by it. The one I don't even think she 615 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.880 was in a trailer. But the one funny thing I did see was that 616 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.760 I forget the character's name, but Emilia Clark's character from Solo was supposed to 617 00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.159 be in it, and your name is Kira, yes, and they're like, 618 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.000 but she's not coming back to voice the character, and I'm just thinking, 619 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.920 yeah, no, shit, you don't need to say that, like 620 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:16.159 surprise, yeah, like not surprised there, but all right, Uh, 621 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:23.679 speaking of showing more new games here, we had the Triple I Showcase, 622 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.599 which is essentially like just kind of putting a bunch of like the I guess 623 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.840 more known indie devs together and saying, here's the showcase for those games. 624 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.199 What did you think about it? Like, I guess the way they did 625 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.239 it, and in the games that got announced and said about twenty five or 626 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.639 thirty games, maybe maybe a little less. I would say it's pretty split 627 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.039 half and half between either city building games or dual joy seccooters. Yep, 628 00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:00.320 there's a lot of Roague Roadue games as well. In class by that in 629 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.119 the Jewel Choice e Scuter part, you know, honestly, like, yeah, 630 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:09.480 that that Hades knockoff really singles. I thought, uh, well, 631 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.679 there were actually a few Hades knockoffs. The one that was kind of interesting 632 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:19.079 was the thirty three Immortals or what the fuck was called Yes, that's the 633 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.239 one that. Yeah, they've shown it off a few times, it's going 634 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:27.679 to be on game Pass. Yeah. Uh but I was okay, but 635 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.199 I started kind of get bored just because it's like, you're showing thirty games. 636 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:37.480 Twenty five of these games are pretty interchangeable, I would say a lot 637 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.719 of sequels. Also, the games I didn't play in the first play, 638 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.719 you know, they didn't really like some of it. They didn't introduce that 639 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:49.400 well uh yeah, it was it was a different time in games at that 640 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.920 point. It was just kind of hard to like part. You know, 641 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.760 they shout off. I think that like at least three or four city building 642 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.360 games all on like a kind of a row. Yes, that seemed I 643 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.199 was like, what what, Like I kind of got lost when I remember. 644 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:10.639 I remember one was like the Fallout one where you're building city like you're 645 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.440 building a city like in the post apocalypse or whatever. And then when it 646 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.400 was like that weird Dinosaur Lord one which played it straight for the halfway and 647 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.880 then like oh no, yeah that one I liked though. That was kind 648 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.679 of cool the way that they kind of played that up, where oh, 649 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.039 okay, this is gonna be a strategy defense game whatever, and then oh 650 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:37.119 he because of freaking dinosaur and it's all right, yeah, but that Mountain 651 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:42.559 one Born and ship I thought, uh, there were at least like two 652 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.800 or three kind of cutesy looking ones that you know, did nothing for me 653 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:52.679 personally, and it's like, wow, okay, yeah, I mean you 654 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.360 kind of hit the It kind of hit the This is what's kind of big 655 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:01.400 in Indie at the moment, you know, the survival yeah kind of game 656 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:05.679 at the moment. Yeah, that too, right, because a lot of 657 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:10.840 this stuff is a lot of this stuff is really steam only, like coming. 658 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.039 There are some some of the stuff, but yeah, most of it 659 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:22.000 was like yep. Probably the biggest one is Slay the Spire to you getting 660 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.639 announced, which yes, definitely still there for that. I love to Slay 661 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.000 the Spire one one of my favorite games of the year came out. Still 662 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.159 been still playing here and there. The fact that we're getting a second one, 663 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.280 yes, very very excited, not coming until next year. I don't 664 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.320 care take your time with it. I just wanted to be great. We 665 00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:51.000 got an interesting that we're getting a Never Alone two sequel. Uh. I 666 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.960 was kind of a surprise that Okay, they have more to say with this 667 00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:59.639 game. I was more surprised, honestly. I mean it's been in development 668 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.920 by for a while, but we're getting another uh Prince of Persian game. 669 00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:09.639 Yeah, the rguelike, which I personally think it looks a lot worse than 670 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.159 the one that came out just a few months ago. I mean it's it's 671 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.519 made by an indie. I think we should uh you know, I kind 672 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:23.000 of understand that. But it's not like THEYLE. I think it's different. 673 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.840 It's you know, it looks like it's supposed to kind of look like Dead 674 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.079 Cells. It's made by a little some folks from that team. So yeah, 675 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.679 but Dead Cell looks a lot better. Like I got. I thought 676 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.119 it looks looks really just kind of not defined well or look like like an 677 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:45.440 Alpha almost or like never, like we don't know how far how far in 678 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:51.400 development these some of these games are that things seemed a little more further along 679 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.639 some of the some of this stuff like it's coming out this year. Yeah 680 00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:59.920 it doesn't have backgrounds or like you know, like what happened. Yeah, 681 00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:04.920 I mean I still was interested in it, and the one thing that kind 682 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.280 of interested me the most. I mean I think I've seen before. Is 683 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:12.280 that mouse scam? Yeah, the one based on the Mickey Mouse. It's 684 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.920 kind of has like a look, yeah, that one's always intriguing me every 685 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.159 time I see it. I agree, But yeah, I know there's some 686 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.760 There was some some good ones, Like they showed more hyper Light Breaker, 687 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:29.639 which I'm excited for that too, even though you know I got the layed. 688 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.480 I'm excited for a few other ones. I think they well, the 689 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.519 most part, they did a good job of like breaking up some of the 690 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:44.280 more known stuff and kind of blending it in between and not just showing you 691 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.760 a bunch of the big stuff at the beginning and then just oh, here's 692 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:50.639 a bunch of stuff you probably don't care about. But I do agree, 693 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.280 Like showing me three city builders or survival games all after another is kind of 694 00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:04.360 like this is all kind of meshing together. So yeah, even it's like, 695 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.519 yeah, I love how they had in the middle, they're like, 696 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.920 oh, we promised, it's only like a couple more Roguelikes or whatever. 697 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.119 Another one that I've I've actually been excited about, and I was wondering what 698 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.239 the heck was going on with it was a flint locked The Siege of Dawn 699 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.519 Uh, that one looked kind of interesting. It looks knockoffs. No, 700 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.920 flint Lock is the one that looks like it's based on an Egyptian Okay, 701 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:35.679 uh like Sirius. It had the guy composing on the piano. Oh yeah, 702 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.039 yeah, he shows him like saying I want to have bosses that are 703 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:44.159 different in the record. Yeah. I probably should have wrote some of the 704 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.400 games down that interested me, but it was. I thought it was overwhelming 705 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:53.840 extent, especially like once after the city building games and the roguelike stuff, 706 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:59.239 like, yeah, I can't keep tracking this anymore. Yeah, I like 707 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.960 nobody's complaining about Sheia not going to Xbox. It is going to switch And 708 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:09.159 that was a good game from last year as well. But yeah, and 709 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:14.400 more Brick of Rain two stuff, you know, more Vamp Vampire Survivors getting 710 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:19.519 Simon Belmont. That was OK. The other one was a lot more funny. 711 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.840 Well what is it, uh, the Contra game, the Contra, 712 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.840 Yeah, the Contra with Vampire Survivors. Yeah, getting the Cansylvania stuff. 713 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.320 I'm sorry, I got to confuse getting Castlevania and the Vampire Star is getting 714 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:39.360 Contra and I was like, wait, and then it's coming soon too, 715 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:45.440 Like may. But who's gonna get g d R Kamy franchise, right, 716 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.599 Yeah, I mean I'll give Konami credit. Man, at least they're using 717 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.360 their I P for stuff. Yeah, too bad. They're not doing anything 718 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.679 with it or anything good with it. That's the problem. I mean, 719 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.880 my problem with that Contra game was that it was expensive. Not necessarily that 720 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:10.079 you know that game. Yeah, My problem with Contra is there is still 721 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:15.639 using like a thirty year old framework, like, yeah, that's it. 722 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:21.400 Yeah, that's an issue. But all right, I think we kind of 723 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.719 covered it. I'm sure you can let us know if you have any favorites 724 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:31.039 there in the comments or whatnot. But those are are kind of like the 725 00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:37.559 big things, aside from one more that we don't really know what's going on 726 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.760 because Eya kind of put the kobash on it really fast. So it's all 727 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:47.559 like insider talk of did this really happen? Did it not? A story 728 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:54.239 came out Jeff Grub talking on a Giant Bomb cast that they were working at 729 00:55:54.320 --> 00:56:00.440 at some point in planning stages or was it ever going to come to light? 730 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.679 We don't know. But dead Space to remake or a new Dead Space 731 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.360 game was in the planning stages, somebody was thinking about it, if somebody 732 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:15.400 was talking about it, and they killed it basically because Dead Space one didn't 733 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.239 sell well enough. It sold two million copies, but it wasn't good enough 734 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.360 for EA and they decided to go in a different direction. So yeah, 735 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:29.400 and now they've moved some of that studio over to doing Battlefield, which probably 736 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.480 makes Eeple more upset because we know where Battlefield has been for so many years. 737 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.800 Uh, it kind of sucks that deaes phase two. Is a lot 738 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:39.519 of people love Dead Space two more than the first one, and then that's 739 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:45.480 the one that's not getting the remake right, and it just yeah, man, 740 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:51.440 I don't know. I feel like we can't compare what Resident Evil games 741 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.320 do to other horror games, like Thata's place as a franchise. We know 742 00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:58.679 what it is, but it's you can't compare it to some of these other 743 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.880 ones. It's not along right now in French. I mean, it's not 744 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:05.320 like a huge It didn't start the genre. Let's say no, it didn't. 745 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.800 And then also it's like all the games came out and one console generation 746 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:13.280 and then they were they didn't do anything with them for another whole consert generation, 747 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.920 so people forgot about them, right, and you're you're going based up, 748 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:22.000 whereas like Resident Eval has been kept up with through the times. And 749 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.800 then when you're doing a remake of those, people are excited. And then 750 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:29.679 also the remakes were done very well right, well except for the maybe three 751 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.760 you know, debate that or whatever, but for the most part they've all 752 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:37.920 been beloved. And then Death Space remake was done really well too. It's 753 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:42.119 just it also came out in a time where there was stuff that came out 754 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.400 like right after it that kind of made it to where you're not gonna it's 755 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.880 not like Dead Space one remake came out and had a bunch of time to 756 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.639 breathe. Yeah, I think it came out right after that other game there, 757 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:59.039 the sci fi Boxing one or the horror game. Yeah, that bomb 758 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.119 horribly well that killed the CARLISTO protocol. Yeah, that's that's what I meant. 759 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:07.119 Yeah, it was like weird confusion in the marketplacement extent because it's kind 760 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:13.719 of looks similar, but it was one of those like January you know, 761 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:20.239 late January releases. Yeah, and it's also like when you're when you're looking 762 00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:24.480 at just everything that's going to come out in a year and you know that 763 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.599 it's Eya and that thing is going to go on a sale at some but 764 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.000 it didn't. Yeah, it's still like kind of expensive. Or well there 765 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.079 was that period where it was like by By Mistake went on sale for like 766 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:43.280 seven bucks or whatever to right, but yeah, it's like forty it's forty 767 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.920 three bucks right now. Uh yeah, maybe it hits like thirty. I 768 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.920 might consider it. We'll see. I know it's a shame, but I 769 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.360 like you said, or you know, I don't think Dead Space has like 770 00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.320 the name Cachet, like the franchise Cachet, and it's like the last Dead 771 00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.760 Spase three. Let the sour caase a lot of people's mouth. Yeah, 772 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.519 I mean I think people also looked at it and probably said, Okay, 773 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.239 if there's a horror game i'm buying, I'm gonna buy Resnu before remake. 774 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:15.679 I'll just buy that later. Yeah right, Yeah. I think horror games 775 00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:21.920 also like one or two are gonna be popular, but most of them it's 776 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.440 kind of you know, come and go or yeah, I mean, you 777 00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:30.440 you had stuff come out around then, you have Hardworts. Legacy was gonna 778 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.639 come out pretty soon at that point too. People were probably saving up money 779 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:42.159 for that, regardless of what the the talk was online at the time. 780 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.559 A high five Rush had taken a lot of the did the Zeitgeist because of 781 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.519 its shadow dropping and it came out like a couple of days before that. 782 00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.840 Then you had the negative for spoken stuff too, So it's like, I 783 00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:59.360 don't know. I think it's a mixture of a lot of things. And 784 00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.599 Ea, I wish YEA wouldn't have just said, Okay, well this didn't 785 01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:06.440 do well, we're just not going to do it. It sucks. It 786 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.280 sucks to see what they could have done with a new one of those or 787 01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:14.480 whatever. Yeah, yeah, believe me, I think people have been more 788 01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.239 excited for Dead Space two or like maybe a dead Space four then yeah, 789 01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:22.320 another battlefield game exactly. It's different. I know we're getting a lot of 790 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.880 horror games, but there's a lot of horror Like look at a Loan in 791 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:29.960 the Dark. It came out, no one cares. It wasn't good. 792 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.519 When you have a good one of those people talk about it, you know 793 01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.880 it wasn't. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, 794 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.119 but yeah, I was still middling. Yeah, it was kind of 795 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.800 like, Okay, it's there, right, and and like you have to 796 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.280 be when you have so many good options to great options of horror games. 797 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:51.800 Now you can't just be like, oh, we're going to be a good 798 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.480 one of those, you know, and deaes Space two was exceptional, Death 799 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.719 Space remake was exceptional, and unfortunately Resident before came out, and eight as 800 01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:07.199 Long because it is although exceptional, and you know, it happens, right 801 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.159 and then again like you lose out to the high selling game of the entire 802 01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:15.880 year in Harvard's legacy, I mean, you can't really do much about that 803 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:21.159 either. So yeah, I think it's just EA is But I get if 804 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:22.320 we're not the ones paying for the game, we're not the ones doing the 805 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.800 production for the game, so it is their decision at the end of the 806 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:29.519 day. But it just sucks. It sucks to see. Speaking of sucky 807 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:34.320 decisions, EA play is also going to go up in price from I don't 808 01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.559 know how this is going to affect game Pass. They haven't announced that. 809 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:38.960 If it is going to make game Pass go higher, I doubt it. 810 01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:43.519 There's probably some kind of thing in there where you know, they're still getting 811 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.000 something out of that. I don't know. If Microsoft just gives them more 812 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:52.360 money or whatever. But it's going up from four ninety nine US dollars to 813 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.280 five ninety nine a month, so just a dollar. And then it's going 814 01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.480 up for the pro subscription, it's going up two dollars from fourteen seen to 815 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:06.840 sixteen. Yeah, it's the It's actually hasn't changed in price since they brought 816 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.119 it out, so this is not like a recent thing. So this is 817 01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:15.079 not that bad really, but you're not really getting anything different than what you 818 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.840 were getting. But if you like that stuff and you're a big you play 819 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.519 a lot of Ya's games, it's great for like the trials. It's great 820 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.800 for that kind of thing. If you're if it's an EA game and you're 821 01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:30.000 kind of not sold on it, pick up that trial, man. Yeah, 822 01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:36.079 it's that's good for that. Oh wow, I didn't realize what tire 823 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:42.840 was. We're gonna have to like kind of the en So Microsoft made a 824 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.639 deal with Netty's so that the Plazzure games has come back to China, and 825 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:52.119 also Microsoft might have a deal with their own games as well the release there 826 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.199 or so get some of Nettie's To get some of Nettie's games, game Pass 827 01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.440 maybe not sure how that's gonna work, but that's great. We know how 828 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:07.159 much Blizzard makes would make a lot of money from their games being playable in 829 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.639 China. This is probably gonna help that. I think it is one of 830 01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.880 the things that I think they said they were going to make a big deal 831 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:17.199 about once they got the rights to having Blizzard, and they were able to 832 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:22.360 make good on that. So good for Microsoft in that respect, Yeah, 833 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:28.599 I guess. And this kind of ties into the whole Star Wars Outlaws price 834 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:36.599 thing and all that too. The Saber Interactive it's former Embrace or COO but 835 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:43.840 now works at works with Sabers since they split, is saying that he thinks 836 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:45.800 that part of this, with all the layoffs and everything, that we're going 837 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.400 to see fewer seventy dollars games. We're gonna see fewer big budget games. 838 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.079 We're not going to have them constantly come out like we've had this year and 839 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.639 last year we had a lot of them. They're going to start typering off. 840 01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.599 We're going to see a lot more double a uh, and the indies 841 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:05.599 be kind of the standard. Uh. Do you think that we need to 842 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:11.079 be getting be getting prepared for that? Like the Sony will still be doing 843 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.760 their thing. You still get your you know, Fall Fanta seven, Part 844 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.880 three and that kind of thing. I don't think so, at least not 845 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.639 when it comes to you know, embrace for stuff. Yeah, I mean 846 01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:25.440 brace for stuff is different obviously, but I think they're saying, like, 847 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.639 by and large, you think people are going to lower that quality because they 848 01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.559 need to cut costs, right because of all the stuff that's happening, Or 849 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.239 we're gonna have enough Triple A where it doesn't matter. Like I mean, 850 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:40.880 I think we'll have enough Triple A, you know, like we just need 851 01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.079 one or two to hit a hit a year. We already got one of 852 01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.960 those this year. So yeah, I do think that also, Like when 853 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.599 you look at the dead space thing to tie that into, it's just it's 854 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:56.320 the economy, man, Yeah, that's that's gonna dictate more than anything. 855 01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.199 Uh, these seventy dollars games, these big budget games, these putting out 856 01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.920 a seventy dollars game and then quickly having to put it down to fifty or 857 01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:11.360 forty because people just don't have the money to you might just like I was 858 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.960 listening to a podcast today and like, if you really think about it, 859 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.199 even in the US, right, we're not. And this is not even 860 01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.280 counting other countries where it's even more supposed to buy a game. If you're 861 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:25.119 buying the one seventy dollars game a month, that's well like over one thousand 862 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:30.559 dollars, yeah, or close to that. That's a lot for a lot 863 01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:32.719 of people, right, right, So then you try to get them to 864 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.639 buy two of those, or a seventy dollars one and a forty dollars one, 865 01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:40.199 they might pick the forty dollars one. Like this is why hell Divers 866 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:42.960 too, not too much of being fun and being something you can do with 867 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.280 your friends and you can play constantly, right, which all those things help. 868 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:50.280 It's forty dollars, and people can just say, oh, hey, 869 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:54.280 have you played hell Divers too yet, Oh dude, play with me, 870 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.239 you know, or hey, you know, get my girlfriend to play or 871 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:01.360 whatever. And it's only forty bucks, right, And it's harder to sell 872 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:05.800 somebody on a seventy dollars game when everybody's got to buy the seventy dollars game, 873 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:10.400 you know. And like that's where the call of duty's and all those 874 01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:14.480 are gonna and the sports games are gonna reap the profits because they're gonna buy 875 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:18.639 those all the time anyway, and that's not gonna change, you know. 876 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.719 So I do think he's right in a certain extent. We're either gonna see 877 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:29.960 those Triple A games not come out right or you're you're gonna see people just 878 01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:32.280 decide, Okay, we're gonna have to start cutting corners that it's not gonna 879 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.079 look as great. We might have more games that look like Rise of the 880 01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:39.079 ronin and you're gonna have to kind of deal with that, even though you 881 01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:43.480 have consoles that can maybe make them look better, especially PC's that make it 882 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:46.719 look a lot better. But unfortunately, would you rather have the game or 883 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:53.400 just not have the game because it doesn't look like amazingly freaking next gen whatever 884 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.760 you think that is. Yeah, so we just have to keep that in 885 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.360 perspective. I guess as time goes on, both of us haven't really been 886 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:05.360 playing anything like of note honestly that we need to like dive deep into. 887 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.280 Yeah, I'm about more and more about Rival Schools next week. Yeah, 888 01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:16.079 I've been playing the Crisis Core remaster. No one. Thing I was going 889 01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.960 to bring up is just kind of just happened. As you've been podcasting. 890 01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:25.599 But I guess to developer, possibility space just went under. Yeah, I 891 01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:31.880 saw that. I saw some tweets while we were talking. Again, another 892 01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:36.639 studio will be in No that it's really weird how they went. This went 893 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:42.559 under because the fonders accusing some of some of his own people of leaking to 894 01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.719 the press about their game. And yeah, because the was it Katak who 895 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.840 had like an interview with one of them or something. Yeah, so we 896 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:55.599 can probably talk about more about next week about how that's false and yeah, 897 01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:03.679 whatever nonsense he was trying to. Yeah, yeah, but really quick before 898 01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:11.239 we get out of here, just just talk about some games here next Thursday. 899 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.400 So I'll talk about it when we do the show next week. It 900 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:18.399 might be one of the big things for next week the last delt for pomp 901 01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:25.760 fans sixteen Rising Tide comes out. I'll probably try to see if I can 902 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:30.279 complete it by it before we get to the doing the episode. So I'm 903 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:34.920 sure many of you are that that are actually happy about Pomps sixteen. I 904 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:41.000 know that's the game to make fun of for a lot of people. I'm 905 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:44.079 not excited for it to be back in the site geist again because I'm sure 906 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:48.279 that's going to be all over the conversation. Also, make sure go check 907 01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:51.520 out if you like artsy games, you like stop motion stuff like that, 908 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.840 go check out Harold hal of it when it comes out on on the sixteenth. 909 01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:00.359 That's on Game Pass. So yeah, it looks like it's gonna really 910 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.840 cool, So definitely go check that out. If you haven't played Grounded yet, 911 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:09.800 go play that on your PS five and all that stuff that's coming out 912 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:14.319 as well, and yeah, we'll talk about more of that stuff next week. 913 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.680 Also, No, Rest of the Wicked also coming, so that's what's 914 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:23.279 coming out on that Thursday, and all people are excited about that. Scott's 915 01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:27.920 like, how there the Presco sposual game exactly. They they got the exposure 916 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.239 to get mad and also came in, thank you so much for telling us 917 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:35.239 that you enjoyed the podcast. I appreciate that. We'll gotta pick up my 918 01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:40.239 kid from school. I hope you all enjoyed the podcast. Go like subscribe 919 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:44.000 all that stuff and we'll see y all later. But hi,