WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:20.960 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, come 2 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.679 on in, come on join me here. You know, I always find 3 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:33.320 it fascinating to here reports that America is the most industrial wealthiest country in the 4 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:42.200 planet, and yet we have the sickest citizens of every industrial age country. 5 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:49.359 And I find it a problem that we are so ill. But then again, 6 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.479 if you think about what America is all about, we're about marketing. 7 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:57.039 We're about money. You know, the next product, the next idea, 8 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:03.320 the next invention, the next social media flash. There's so much going on. 9 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.280 It's crazy. We're like children in a way, but we're sick and 10 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.079 we're not getting any better. And today we're going to talk about chemicals that 11 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:17.439 we have sprayed on our foods, and these chemicals that seep into our water, 12 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:23.359 into our soil and affect the plant life and affect the insects that supply 13 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:33.680 pollens to pollinate fruit trees. And you know, it's funny because when we 14 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:40.000 think about our country, we're considered by many, or we used to be 15 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.920 considered the bread basket of the world. We grew more grain, we have 16 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:52.200 more produce Here in California alone, we produce seventy percent of the country's fruits 17 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:59.480 and vegetables and grains. There's a big portion of the country of the state 18 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:08.319 that grow walnuts and almonds and sunflowers and all these important nuts. But if 19 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:19.800 these fruits and vegetables and grains are contaminated with toxic herbicides, this affects us. 20 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.520 And we're gonna learn today that it's a serious problem. In fact, 21 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:31.319 it's gotten to the point where there are residuals effects like autism, of fast 22 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:38.120 and growing problem with our children. Never heard of autism when I was growing 23 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.960 up in the seventies and eighties, because it wasn't known of, It wasn't 24 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.319 known about, it wasn't even a phenomenon. The other thing that's really becoming 25 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:53.759 a problem is Alzheimer's in dementia. It's just growing. It's growing and growing 26 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.400 and growing. And you're gonna hear about some of the reasons today why it 27 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:05.960 is growing, and it's of control, and we're becoming a nation of cripples, 28 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:12.599 neurologically crippled people. And you know, it's funny because Monsanto, who 29 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:23.599 was sued for their product roundup this, this herbicide, continues to produce GMOs 30 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:34.080 these genetically modified organisms which are in seeds and seedlings, and people are eating 31 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.639 this stuff, but it's been modified and it's not or it's not natural or 32 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:43.360 organic. And this is what it's coming down to. And a lot of 33 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:49.000 people used to pooh pooh organic produce, grass fed beef and so forth and 34 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:54.039 so on. But if you are eating vegetables and fruits that are laced with 35 00:03:54.199 --> 00:04:01.800 herbicides, pesticides and other chemical compounds, it's direct affecting your body, and 36 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:08.199 it's the slow killer. This is what begins to show up as cancers, 37 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:16.240 neurological problems, gut leaky gut syndrome, kidney liver, organ problems, and 38 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.360 very damage to the brain, very very damaging to the brain, which is 39 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:26.800 what we don't want. We just cannot have our brains damaged at all. 40 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.000 So I try to fight against it. And of course I live in California, 41 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:38.759 where blessed with farms that produce organic fruits and vegetables, grass fed cows 42 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.920 and all this kind of good stuff. But a lot of people, and 43 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.959 many of you listening, don't have access to that. So you got to 44 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.959 go to your you got to go to your local store. And you know, 45 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:54.680 it's funny because certified organic produce is expensive. You know a lot of 46 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:58.839 people are like, I can't, I can't afford that, you know, 47 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.759 apples a dollar. I'm used to paying fifty cents for an apple or twenty 48 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.720 five cents for an apple. Well, the issue is it's really for your 49 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:15.120 livelihood. And I am going to have eventually some people talking about organic versus 50 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:20.240 a commercial grown produce. But the bottom line is you don't want chemical sprayed 51 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:28.720 on your apples or your fruits or your vegetables because there's nothing you can do 52 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:33.079 to wash it out. When it's sprayed, and it is and the planet 53 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.839 is and the fruit is growing or the vegetables are growing, it seeps into 54 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:43.360 the body of of the fruit and vegetable, so you can't wash it out. 55 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.079 You can't seep it out, you can't scratch it out or cut it 56 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:55.000 out. It's everywhere. So organic's really becoming huge. And if you can. 57 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.360 You know the other thing, let me tell you this, do a 58 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:05.000 taste test. Get an organic orange and get a commercial orange. You'll notice 59 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.800 immediately the taste. That's what I like. Right now here in northern California, 60 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:18.000 it's seed fruits, it's cherries are in seasoned and peaches and pears and 61 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:24.439 apricuts. Oh my god, I like apricuts. Apricuts are a real short 62 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.879 window. They're only good for about six weeks and then they're all gone. 63 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.120 But if you have a farmer's market where you're at, patronize them because they're 64 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:39.639 going to give you fruits and vegetables that haven't been sprayed all kinds of chemicals. 65 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.920 You don't want those chemicals in your body because they once you consume them, 66 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.920 it's in your body, it's in your organs. So patronize and go 67 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:55.839 to farmers markets when you can. And you want to live into your sixties, 68 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.759 seventies, eighties and beyond as healthful as you can, because if you're 69 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.319 not feeling well and you're taking drugs, you're screwed. And we all know 70 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:09.879 I'm talking about as soon as you get on drugs for any condition, you're 71 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:16.000 in trouble. So today's program is toxic legacy, how the we kill our 72 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:21.800 glephosate is destroying our health and the environment. And my guest today is doctor 73 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:30.000 Stephanie Sennef. We have our last tour coming up this year. It's our 74 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.839 Sacred Temples of Yucatan Mexico. It's November eighth through the seventeenth, and I 75 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:41.160 have our host and our guide, Memo Gonzalez with us talk a little bit 76 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.439 about this upcoming tour. Mimo has been with me for a number of years. 77 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.160 We're gonna be going to ek Balaam as one of our locations, and 78 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:55.759 they've done some recent excavations there and what will we see there that's that's unique. 79 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:05.079 Yeah, they have been doing it very interesting research restoration and the important 80 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:11.720 Mayan sites, including Ebalan. Ekbalam is one of the places we enjoyed the 81 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:18.240 most because it has some unique items. As you said first of all, 82 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:24.079 like it is still not a very touristic place. Yeah, we're allowed to 83 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:31.959 walk on most of the ancient constructions down there, and as you imagine, 84 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:39.679 from the top of most of these temples, we have beautiful view and a 85 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:46.360 perspectives of the of the site. It changes completely the idea we have of 86 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.240 the Mayan site. Yeah, what you were saying about this a new discovery 87 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:58.600 and the back of the site, a chologist uncover what looks like an ancient 88 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:07.720 accidential conflict and important art and fairy With some of those they also sound some 89 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:15.000 figures, some sculptures, and many of them still preserve the old stock. 90 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.000 As you know, most of the Mayan temples, most of the Mayan sculptures 91 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:30.000 caught in stone were finished with a very thin code of some stonkl that made 92 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:37.440 everything look very smooth and very clean. So in a egg blam we can 93 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:43.840 see a lot of these figures still in very good shape, like the Mayas 94 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:50.919 were still around. Excellent. All right. Again, it's November eighth to 95 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:56.360 the seventeenth of this year. Our host and tour guide is Mimo Gonzales. 96 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:01.559 For more information go to Earth Ancient Stock, Calm Forward Slash Tours and you'll 97 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.840 see all the itinerary. It's a short program. It's one week. We 98 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.480 do a lot of pyramid climbs and it's going to be a perfect time to 99 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.639 be there because the weather is great and it's very very reasonable. So again 100 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.320 a Sacred Pyramid Tour November eighth through the seventeenth of this year. Memo will 101 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.279 look forward to seeing you. Yeah, I mean too, cheers, Take 102 00:10:24.320 --> 00:11:07.879 care for your soon. We're all concerned about the food we eat. I 103 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.679 try to do the best I can eat or only organic, but it's not 104 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.919 always possible. If not organic, then it's market, it's the farmer's market. 105 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.559 If not farmers market, then it's a store that isn't commercially run, 106 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:28.000 simply because I'm worried about the pesticides on my produce. Today, we have 107 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.759 a new author who has written a fascinating book called Toxic Legacy, how the 108 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:41.919 weed killer Glyphossa is destroying our health and the environment. And this book came 109 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:46.240 to my attention, I think by my producer, not only because of the 110 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:52.879 message that is carried throughout the book, but the importance to really be aware 111 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:58.399 of what you eat, what's in your food, and who's behind it. 112 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:05.919 My guest today is is doctor Stephanie Senef. She is a senior research scientist 113 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:13.200 at MIT, and she has a bachelor's in biophysics and a master's in engineering, 114 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:18.080 a pH degree in electrical and electrical engineering, and so much more. 115 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.720 She's a very bright gal. But Stephanie, welcome to Destiny and I gotta 116 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.159 tell you your book was a shocker. Well, I'm glad because I'm really 117 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.600 wanting people to wake up and realize what's going on here, because I think 118 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:37.159 it's really crucial for the long term health of our people in our society. 119 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:43.080 Yeah, we were just talking off recording that you took ten years to research 120 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:50.399 and develop and actually produce this book. It's packed, literally packed with data, 121 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:58.039 and it would take us a week to get over through the whole content. 122 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.480 But let's talk about how it came to be. You opened the book 123 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:11.600 talking and writing about your concern with autism, and you connected with another scientist 124 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:18.519 who was researching researching it. What is the aspect of autism that came to 125 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.519 light for you? And really was the kind of guiding path to this book. 126 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.399 Just the fact that the rates were going up every year. This was 127 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.600 around two thousand and seven timeframe. I started to get really concerned because I 128 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.559 was watching every year there's more, we're just diagnosing it more, don't worry 129 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.039 about it. And I just was very skeptical of that point of view. 130 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.679 And I was quite quite concerned because as a child, I had never known 131 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.279 I didn't know the word autism. When I was a child, there was 132 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.879 nobody who had it. And it's really come on the scene now in a 133 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.360 ferocious way. I mean I have like one in thirty it's thirty something, 134 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.320 now one in thirty something kids, thirty eight, something like that. In 135 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.480 the US it's incredible. Some of the towns in New Jersey have a lot 136 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.200 more than that. There's a very high rate of autism, especially among the 137 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:09.240 boys. It's a catastrophe and I don't understand why the government is not taking 138 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.879 it seriously. So many kids, and many of them can't even speak. 139 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.519 I mean, it's not like it's just a minor disability. Yeah, we 140 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:20.039 should mention that there's different levels of autism. There's a minor affliction to the 141 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:26.159 point where and then there's the other end of the spectrum, which is they 142 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:31.480 had to be cared for these kids. Yes, very very severe autism can 143 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.559 be like they're banging their head against the wall because they have some horrible headache 144 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.600 that they can't get rid of, and they can't speak, I mean, 145 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.240 and they have all kinds of bowel issues. I mean, it is a 146 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.159 very difficult situation for some of the mothers, and my heart goes out to 147 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.159 them because the pain that they have suffered and the devotion that they have to 148 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.240 their child and the commitment to try to solve the problem. I meet these 149 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.399 mothers that are really heroes in my mind, and they're going they're seeking everything 150 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.320 they can find in terms of nutritional supplements and organic diet and you know, 151 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.039 fecal trans I mean, they're trying all kinds of things with the hope of 152 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.559 curing their child's autism. And actually some children have been cured. It's quite 153 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.320 amazing their autism has been reversed, so it is possible to cure it. 154 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:15.720 I was really excited to know that I met a woman, a young woman 155 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.960 who was in her late teens, and she had been diagnosed with autism, 156 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.440 and she seemed completely normal, and I was so thrilled. And part of 157 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.799 their program was organic diet, you know. So I think the critical thing 158 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:30.399 is toxicity of the food, and just changing that one factor would make a 159 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.799 huge difference in the autism rates in this country. And it really disappoints me 160 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.519 that the government isn't even talking about it. It should be a national issue 161 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.480 to being discussed in the campaigns, you know, for the president at least, 162 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:45.399 they should be speak up by what are you going to do about the 163 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.879 autism epidemic? And there's not a word about it. It's like it's not 164 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:52.360 there. It really puzzles me that they don't care. Is this prevalent in 165 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:58.200 the United States in terms of the rates the high rate of autism or is 166 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.320 this worldwide? I think US is among the worst. I've heard that Brazil 167 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:04.960 in the United States kind of compete for first place on the usage of glycos 168 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.039 eight per person. It's the spikes. I think we mentioned the glycysaid already. 169 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.120 I'm not sure, but glypuz eight is the active ingredient and round up 170 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.440 and rounded is pervased in the food supply, and to me, that is 171 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.399 a primary cause, not the only cause, but a primary cause of the 172 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:23.200 audios an epidemic. And i' of course researched this very very deeply, and 173 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:27.440 I feel very confident in saying that. And so we've been led to believe 174 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:32.759 that this chemical is wonderful because it's perfectly safe for humans, but it kills 175 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.919 all plants except those that have been engineered to resist it. So it makes 176 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:41.879 a fantastic overside, and it greatly increases the efficiency of farming. You don't 177 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.919 need to pull the weeds, and you save a lot of money on labor. 178 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.159 And you know, it's a very If it were true, it would 179 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:52.559 be amazing, right that we'd have some chemical that doesn't affect us but kills 180 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.679 all the weeds. It would be really amazing, and if it was natural 181 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.360 it would be great. Okay, let's talk about round up and glyc say, 182 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.079 which is the focus of the book. It's in everything apparently, and 183 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:10.039 of course it's a Monsanto product, which is kind of a negative for a 184 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:15.920 lot of people who are thinking about their But talk about the chemical compound that 185 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:23.519 is part of roundup and why this glyphosate is so deadly. Yeah, glyphosate 186 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.039 is an extremely interesting chemical. Of course, it's not unnatural, it's not 187 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.799 doesn't occur in nature. It's synthetic. That's important. I think anything that's 188 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:36.559 synthetic and natural I get very suspicious of, but particularly these herbicides. I 189 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.279 think pretty much all the oversizer are not natural, most of most of it, 190 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.640 well, the chemical based herbicides that are very popular are all synthetic. 191 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.359 And glyph is a In my book, I talk extensively about what I believe 192 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.720 to be life is. It's unique and diabolical mechanism of toxicity, which makes 193 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:59.799 it very unusual in terms of its effects that nothing else matches it in terms 194 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.440 of kind of damage it can do. And this effect is a little bit 195 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.279 technical, but it involves glycosate, is glycine, molecule. Glycine is an 196 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.039 amino acid. It's the smallest amino acid. It's one of the twenty building 197 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.640 blocks of the proteins that are assembled according to the DNA code. And it's 198 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.119 really kind of a cool system where you have this three letter code that codes 199 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.519 for a particular amino acid, and when you have a code for glycine, 200 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.880 the system is instructed to put a glycine into the protein. And this building 201 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.839 it's like beads on a string. But when it gets to that code, 202 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.039 it sees glycyzate and thinks it's glyicing by mistake, and it puts it into 203 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:34.559 the protein. This is what I believe is happening, and I talk in 204 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.319 my book about I have a whole chapter devoted to the evidence that I've found, 205 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:42.720 even from Monsanto's own studies, to support this claim, because if this 206 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:48.359 is true, then it explains why this one chemical is correlated. There's been 207 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.200 a dramatic increase in the use of glycyzate over the past twenty years, in 208 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.599 step with a dramatic increase in a huge list of chronic diseases, not just 209 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.559 autism, and especially many problems with the children, many problems with the gut 210 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.079 Alzheimer's, you know, there's a lot of and even some cancers like pecreatic 211 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.640 cancer. All these things are going up dramatically over time. Obesity, diabetes, 212 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:14.640 you know, we get sicker and sicker every day in our country, 213 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.880 and we kind of just accept it. Oh yeah, everybody's getting bad. 214 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.599 Well, yeah, you don't get fat, you're eating crappy or something that 215 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.039 you know, we don't really think about exactly what is it that's going on 216 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:26.759 that makes it so compelled to get fat, And it really is. It 217 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:30.240 doesn't make anything else to me though when I hear that, and it's always 218 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:34.200 in the news, the fact that the United States, this industrial giant, 219 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:41.200 is one of the sickest countries in the world and we're not getting any better. 220 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:47.039 We just seem to fall further further into the abyss because we're being medicated 221 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.920 with pharmaceuticals rather than a holistic alternative. And it's just I mean, I 222 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.559 talk about this all the time on my show. Here is a look at 223 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:03.200 it. You have a number of actors that go into the real foundation of 224 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.079 America, which is farming, and we have always been kind of the bread 225 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.920 basket of the world. I know, that's changing a little bit with certain 226 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.680 grains. I know different other countries are growing more grains. But because we 227 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:22.039 have this industry, herbicides have always been in the scene, and until they 228 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.440 were found to be a problem, we didn't really pay attention to it. 229 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:32.839 Like earlier products like DDT were found to be poisonous. And round Up has 230 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.039 had its problems with huge lawsuits. Talk a little bit about these. One 231 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.119 guy got like a quarter of a billion dollars in the settlement and then they 232 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:47.960 reduced it down to seventy eight million. But Roundups been put on notice, 233 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.960 hasn't it? Absolutely? Dwane Lee Johnson, I remember very clearly the moment 234 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:53.880 in which I heard that he had won that case and had gotten this huge 235 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.200 settlement. I was so shocked because I just assumed that, oh, yeah, 236 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.519 they always know how to whasel their way out of these problems, you 237 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.160 know, settle it out of court and nobody knows what happened. And he 238 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.599 actually went to court, had a jury trial, and he won a huge 239 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.400 amount, and then of course it was eventually cut back. But he was 240 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.480 awesome, and he actually came I'm in Hawaii. He came here to Hawaiian 241 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.599 and talked to the Hawaii government about the dangers of round up, and very 242 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:25.279 shortly after that they banned the use of round up on school yards across Hawaii, 243 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:29.319 which was so gratifying to me that he's actually been involved politically to try 244 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:33.720 to get and bring awareness to this chemical. But because of his lawsuit and 245 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:36.960 because he won, all kinds of people came out of the closet, and 246 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.640 all of a sudden, there's like an onslaught of people with non Hodgkins lym 247 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:45.440 foma linked to guide for their usage. And it was really people who the 248 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.200 farmers don't can't can't argue as well their case because they're exposed to so many 249 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.079 chemicals that you always point at the other chemicals, well that's the one that 250 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.839 caused your problem. But there were people who were only using round up on 251 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.000 their own property and things like that, who'd gotten on hotcheson boma a young 252 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.000 age, and it just became an onslaught. And Bayer is still crippled by 253 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.160 this. They really don't know how to get out of this problem. In 254 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.880 fact, they're actually trying now to get government regulation here in the United States 255 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.680 to basically say that roundup is a bit like the vaccines that it is so 256 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.920 essential to our economy and to the growth of our crops that we can't afford 257 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:26.200 to not have it, and therefore bayers should be protected from lawsuits because of 258 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.279 that, lawsuits against glycs state. They're trying to get that such a bill 259 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.480 passed, which is just so incredible to me. Yeah, talk a little 260 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:41.440 bit about the the farming industry, how our grains bring crops, produce and 261 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:48.039 so on. Although they're trying to reduce the pesticize being used, they still 262 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:49.920 get in our food and you really can't wash them out, can you. 263 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:52.839 Well, that's the thing I mean. If glad is, as I believe, 264 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.119 getting incorporated into proteins, it's going to be in the proteins of the 265 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.319 tissues of the foods that we eat, and in our own proteins as well 266 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.559 throughout our body. It's like bullets in the proteins throughout your body. And 267 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:08.000 some of the proteins become completely disabled when they have just one glycine substitution by 268 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:12.559 glyphys eate, they can become completely disabled. And you can see which proteins 269 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.000 they are, and I talk about many of them in my book. That 270 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.799 if that approtein is affected by glyphys eate, then you're going to have this 271 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.799 disease, and then you can have all these diseases that are going up dramatically, 272 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.279 and you can say, well, here's the protein that would cause this 273 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:27.480 disease, and here's why glyph isa would disrupt that protein, and you connect 274 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.400 the dots and you can tellantly incredible story. You can fill the pieces of 275 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:37.880 the puzzle together and really produce a compelling story as to why glyphys a single 276 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:42.880 handedly is causing a great number of these issues that we're having with our health, 277 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:47.799 and really starting with the gut microbiome, because that's central, you know. 278 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:52.279 Monsanto claimed that glyphyzate's a wonderful herbicide because it disrupts a particular enzyme in 279 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.440 the plants which is in this pathway called the shickamate pathway, and the enzyme 280 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:00.839 is called EPSP synthase. Yeah. Yeah, Human cells don't have that pathway, 281 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.720 they don't have that enzyme. We cannot be affected by glycycate. That's 282 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.759 the story they tell. It's pretty compelling, right, it sounds pretty good. 283 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.680 The problem is many of our gut bacteria have the pathway, have the 284 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:17.480 enzyme get affected by glycyciate, and they use that pathway to produce essentral nutrients 285 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.279 for the host. So when that pathway gets disrupted in the gut microbes, 286 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.160 you get deficiencies and critical nutrients. Yeah, it's it's devastating. I want 287 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:33.480 you to talk a little bit about the GMOs and how glyphyssate kind of seeps 288 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.400 into those as well, because we're all for a while there it was like 289 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.119 GMOs are not to be used, don't buy the seeds, be careful about 290 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:49.920 buying products. And I think in some cases GMO produce was identified at certain 291 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.559 stores, but I don't know. I think they they fought that. I 292 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.599 think, yeah, absolutely fought that, and they don't. They don't have 293 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:03.680 to label anymore. So we talk a little bit about that. Would you 294 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.279 step fling. Yeah. There have been various attempts to get GMO labeling on 295 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.920 the program here in the United States and has never succeeded. The United States 296 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.359 has refused to consider the idea of labeling the GMOs. And you know, 297 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.480 for the longest time, there was a lot of discussion among citizens about the 298 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:25.400 possibility that GMOs are toxic, but they were not actually paying attention to the 299 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.519 fact that the GMOs. We don't know exactly what the actual GMO technology might 300 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.759 do, and there could be some odd things that it would do to your 301 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.799 body as well. But what people weren't appreciating until more recently is that the 302 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:41.359 GMO enables the toxic exposures to the chemicals, and it's really the chemicals, 303 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.640 not the GMOs, that are caused. I believe that are causing most of 304 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.960 the problems that you see with GMO crops. And so there are crops that 305 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.240 there are foods that are labeled non GMO because people know if I call this 306 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:55.000 non GMO, we will sell better. You know, that's a feature. 307 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.799 Unfortunately, non GMO doesn't necessarily mean no guide to say. In fact, 308 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:04.039 the GMOs. One of the biggest GMOs was the introduction of this version of 309 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:10.880 this enzyme EPSP syntheliz that I mentioned earlier. They're endowed with a microbial version 310 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:15.279 of that enzyme that's not sensitive to glyphys eate and it's not sensitive because there's 311 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.279 a glycine that got taken out. That glycine is what makes it sensitive, 312 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:25.480 and that in those new copies of that protein that came from the micro it 313 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:27.319 has an alum in instead of a glycine. At that spot, so it's 314 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:33.119 not at all sensitive to glycysate. That's actually a very big hint that glycycyate's 315 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.960 effect is jue too substituting for the glycine the protein. That's very important because 316 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.799 that's what gives it its unique, huge list of things that it can cause 317 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:45.799 because of messing up various proteins that get infected in a way with glyphisa and 318 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.759 embedded in the protein and messing up its ability to do its job. So 319 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.279 I got off on a bit of a tangent there. But the GMOs, 320 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.000 so the other problem is that it's not enough to see non GMO to think 321 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.200 it's going to be free of glycysate. You know. So there's a GMO 322 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.720 that causes the plant to be resistant to glycyzate from this bacterial gene, and 323 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:06.519 that allows you to spray glypozate all over the crop and it doesn't die. 324 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.200 So that makes you really easy to just spray it from the airplane, you 325 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.920 know, all over the crop. You don't have to pay attention to just 326 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:17.519 putting it on the weeds, which makes it so much easier to manage the 327 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:22.440 weeds. But then there are a whole bunch of crops and they're very basic 328 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.680 in the food chain that are sprayed with glypyzate right before harvest does a desiccond 329 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.440 These are non GMO crops. They have to be non gmo because otherwise they 330 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.599 wouldn't die. The whole point of it is to force the crop, the 331 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.799 plant to die, goes to seed. You increase the yield because you synchronize 332 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.880 the production of the seed. For example in wheat and barley and oats and 333 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.640 rye and then garbonzo beans, chickpeas, some of the seed nuts. So 334 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.920 many different crops are sprayed with glycysate right before harvest, and that's the worst 335 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.799 because that glypiz it goes right into the seed. In fact, wheatterm has 336 00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.720 probably the highest levels of glycysate of any part of the wheat because the lives 337 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.640 it actually gets into the sea and so you get a very very high levels 338 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:10.319 of life living stuff. You real quickly, Stephanie, aren't isn't the AMA 339 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:18.960 or any of these health organizations putting up the red flag to organizations that are 340 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:26.279 spraying g to say on the on the trees and you know, farm crops, 341 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.480 what's the question, aren't they saying, why are you doing this, 342 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.160 You're poisoning our people. No, no, they're not. They're saying, 343 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:34.720 oh, this is a wonderful chemical, it's perfectly safe, so we don't 344 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.039 care. If we don't, and the government knows this like to they'd all 345 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.240 over the fruit supply and they don't bother to even measure it. It's people 346 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.920 like Zan Hunnicott who have taken the initiative. She's a friend of mine. 347 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:48.400 She's a hero in my opinion. She's she's the founder of an organization called 348 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.079 Moms Across America, which has been around for many years, and she's been 349 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.960 pushing this concept of like to say, toxicity throughout her whole initiative is based 350 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.480 on that, and she has been measuring. She has gathered samples of very 351 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.400 interesting samples of food and gotten them tested for glacysy and she's gotten extremely bad 352 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.200 news. So she did fast foods. She got samples of foods from fast 353 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.680 food joints. One hundred percent of them were contaminated with glycasa. She got 354 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:17.119 samples from school lunches, public school lunches, from her moms. She has 355 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:21.480 this organization of moms, sent them off and got them tested ninety five percent 356 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:26.000 were positive for glycostate. It's like all over the food supply God and the 357 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.279 government doesn't care. It's like, oh it's safe, don't worry. I'm 358 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:37.000 reading an extrap here. In twenty twenty, the EPA reported that there were 359 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:45.480 no risks of using glycos sate in the farming industry our own EPA. Has 360 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.000 there been any change since twenty twenty, that's four years ago. People have 361 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.240 been trying to interest them. I mean I was part of a group of 362 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.160 people who we spent our own nickel to go to Washington, DC and meet 363 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.039 with the EPA. And it was a disaster. I mean they delayed the 364 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:00.799 meeting and then they started talking with us about stuff, but wasted all the 365 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.680 time. We had to rush through our presentation. They had no questions. 366 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:08.200 They were like zombies while we presented, and nothing happened, you know, 367 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:14.279 big in front of did you speak in one of Congress or it was EPA? 368 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.119 We went, We did a well, we spoke in front of congressional 369 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.720 what do you call them, not the Congress and themselves but the people who 370 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.920 ruling body or something I don't know. Yeah, And then we also met 371 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.519 with the e p A but the EPA meeting was a disaster. I was 372 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.000 so disappointed. They obviously did not want to hear our message, and they 373 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.799 obviously did not want to do anything about it. It was really frustrating. 374 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:41.960 It's totally amazing. We're going to get to them towards the back of the 375 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:52.079 book where you actually talk about farmers' markets and organic versus commercially grown. But 376 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.240 how I mean you even say here, which is kind of scary for me 377 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:02.559 because I tried to eat only organic food. That eat an organic produce can 378 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:10.200 have traces of glycysatees in in the planet. Is there any way for us 379 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.960 to get away from this at all? This poison? Well, this is 380 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.559 a problem because in this country it is so pervasive, it's actually in the 381 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.440 in the air. I collected a sample of rainwater and MiG in Cambridge, 382 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.880 Massachusetts, and I set it off to Anthony Sampson, my buddy, who 383 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:30.079 was doing testing for glycycat and rainwater from He had his friend's gathering water sent 384 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.400 it to him and he got it tested for glycciate. The rainwater from Cambridge 385 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.920 came out positive for glycysate, which means it's in the air in Cambridge and 386 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.759 it's not there's no farms in Cambridge, right, But I think it's coming 387 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:49.200 from the from the biofuels in the biodiesel, the bioethanolo, it's in the 388 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.559 gasolines. Yeah, ethanol is dry from GM or around up ready corn, 389 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.680 and we put like five ten percent of ethanol in our gasoline. We tried 390 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.920 to save gas that way, right, But by putting ethanol and the gas 391 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.119 and the ethanol evaporates and the glithe tickets into the air. I believe that's 392 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.920 not been tested. That's still just theoretical, but I suspect it. Wow. 393 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.480 Let's talk a little bit about the health concerns. You say that glyphasate 394 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:21.200 is slowly killing us, and obviously you have chapters on the cancers and the 395 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.160 other neurological disorders. I want to talk briefly about reproduction because this is a 396 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.680 big one. You say that and you describe a lot of American women, 397 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.720 not just necessarily American women wait until they're older to have children, which is 398 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.279 it makes it tougher because they don't have the same reproductive cycles, they don't 399 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.440 have the same egg production and so forth and so on. But you have 400 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:52.880 made some astounding discoveries and talk a little bit about the problems associated with glyphassate 401 00:32:53.039 --> 00:33:00.279 and having healthy babies. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of problem there 402 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.000 are certainly reproduction itself. I think both the female and the male sexual system 403 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:09.960 is disrupted by glyphyzate. Studies have shown that sperm exposed to glypizate become immobile 404 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.720 and they become less their fewer sperm because of Glyphizateic exposure studies have shown that 405 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.200 so the sperm are very sensitive to glyphysate. And actually for the woman, 406 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.880 it's very interesting because there's a condition called polycystic ovary syndrome, which is the 407 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:30.759 most common cause of female in fertility, polycystic ovary syndrome, And there was 408 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.400 a study on girl babies. This was a recent study. They looked at 409 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.640 GlyP state levels in the urine of pregnant women and then they had this metric 410 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.519 they could use that would detect It's a metric of the reproductive system that would 411 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:52.440 test would correlate with excess testosterone exposure in utero. So both the males and 412 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:59.559 females are getting too much testosterone because glypizate disrupts the enzone aromatase that converts testosterone 413 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:05.519 to estrage, and too much testosterone in uterope for girl babies ends up being 414 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.760 a very high predictor of this metric, which is called the atogenital distance. 415 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.920 And you can imagine what that is. If it's long, it's an indicator 416 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.000 of too much testosterone and that gives you like a twelvefold increased risk to having 417 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:22.119 polycystic ovary syndrome when you grow up. So that's a connection right there with 418 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:28.800 the girl babies. It disrupts the hormonal system, which causes very confusing development 419 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.039 of the sexual system, and then the babies have all kinds of problems. 420 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:37.840 I actually wrote an article together with a couple of other women on the effect 421 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.840 of glype state on babies, and we looked at a whole lot of data 422 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.559 from the government on various conditions and even defects like heart defects and things like 423 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.599 that and metabolic disorders, and we just found an astonishing number of things that 424 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.199 were going up over time exactly in stepped with a rising glycsate usage in the 425 00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.159 babies. You know, just amazing. So it's very and you know, 426 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.159 we have a very poor record here in the United States. We have among 427 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:10.079 the highest infant mortality rates of all the industrialized world, insane and even maternal 428 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.719 mortality as well. We have a very high rate of maternal mortality compared to 429 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.039 other countries in our league, you know, the industrialized countries. We're out 430 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:24.440 of line. We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors 431 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:30.960 to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, Stephanie 432 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:38.920 Senef, discussing her latest book, Toxic Legacy. We'll be right back. 433 00:35:43.159 --> 00:36:27.639 You'll want to practition and mal until. I guess today is doctor Stephanie Senef, 434 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:32.559 who has written a book called Toxic Legacy. How the weed killer is 435 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:44.079 destroying our health and the environment if the e p A finds that this is 436 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:53.639 UH worth keeping on our farming UH systems. How toxic is UH life? 437 00:36:53.719 --> 00:37:00.639 For saying, is it highly toxic and and you only need a little bit 438 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.039 to disrupt you? Or do they find that you can have a little bit 439 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.000 and you'll be you can live? Okay, I mean it seems like they 440 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.360 have a tolerance. Yeah. They like to talk about a level, you 441 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.760 know, a safe level, what's the maximum safe level of the chemical? 442 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.000 But glyphis eight has been shown by many studies to be an endercon disruptor, 443 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.679 and endercin disruptors have the interesting property that they are more toxic at very low 444 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.960 levels than they are at higher levels. And so Monsanto actually set up a 445 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.159 rule back when they were trying to study glype is eight. They said that 446 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.519 if you could confirm that that in studies that the chemical was not toxic at 447 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.119 certain higher levels, you didn't have to look any lower that the dose makes 448 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.599 the poison. They made this argument, and so they didn't bother to look 449 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.599 for gut for toxicity of bated at low levels. They also made a rule 450 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:51.039 that said if you don't see any problems in mammals like we're studying mouse study 451 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.519 or right rat studies, after three months, then you're good to go. 452 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.480 You don't have to look any longer in time. So they have short time 453 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.360 interval. And then of course they also never studied byphizate in context with the 454 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.800 chemicals that were added to it to make the formulation, and that was a 455 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.800 huge gap because glyphizeate by itself can actually not go into the cell unless you 456 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.079 kind of add some things to make it able to be penetrated through the cell 457 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.559 barriers and they mixed up this formulation round up that has these other things in 458 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.199 it. Those are actually intrinsically. There was a study that showed that those 459 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.639 other ingredients were a thousand times more toxic than blinpiz eate acutely during the application 460 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.239 of the chemical that those thinks glyth yzate has this unique insidious mechanism of toxicity 461 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.280 that you don't see right away. It takes time, and that's why if 462 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.440 you wait, if you only go three months, you might miss it. 463 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.360 Because in fact, there was this rats There were a famous rats study that 464 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.880 was done by Saraleni in France, and he repeated a study that the industry 465 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.199 had done with the rats, only he didn't stop it three months. He 466 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.599 went for the entire lifespan. At three months, he couldn't really tell the 467 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.719 difference between the treated group and the control but by four months he started receive 468 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:01.679 prop and by the end of their life they had a shortened lifespan. That 469 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.119 both genders had sexual dysfunction, they had males had liver and kidney problems, 470 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.360 the females had massive memory tumors. I mean, there were lots of things 471 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:16.440 going on that separated the treated group from the control group after for the entire 472 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.800 lifespan, and that paper was quite a stir and actually, of course the 473 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.639 industry managed to get it retracted, which is what they do with controversial papers. 474 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.760 But they did manage then to turn around and get it republished. So 475 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.599 it's a valid study that was republished. And you know, I keep reading 476 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:36.000 this over and over in your book. It's like Monsanto blocks Moncento. Scientists 477 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.719 say, you're wrong. It's a good product. It's you know, it's 478 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.920 our culture, you know, to make a buck. And it doesn't matter 479 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:49.679 if you're blindly leading people to take poisons whether you like it or not. 480 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.599 It's good for you and it's going to kill you slowly. But that's okay, 481 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.400 that's just the American way. It's kind of a sad statement about our 482 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.239 society, isn't it. It certainly is. I mean, I say that 483 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:06.159 the industry has really gotten control over the government because they're the pharmaceutical industry, 484 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.000 and Bayer, of course is a pharmaceutical company. They own Monsanto. That 485 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.239 industry has done one so much lobbying for the government that the government is completely 486 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:19.079 in their hands. I mean, they do what the pharmaceutical industry wants because 487 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.199 that's how they get their funding. It's really a very broken system. And 488 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:28.320 so and there's this portrayal of I mean, they kind of portray people like 489 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.920 me as just being sort of alarmists or is just totally exaggerated the situation. 490 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.000 You know that all the foods find don't worry about it is the message they 491 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.599 give. And of course it's not just the chemicals in the food. It's 492 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:44.840 also the processed food that's bad. Even by itself. Even a processed SOI 493 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.599 ap proachin bar that's organic, I wouldn't need it, you know. So 494 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.119 it's both the processing and all the chemicals that go into The chemicals that go 495 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.880 into the processing are part of the problem too, like hexan. So you 496 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.760 need to eat whole foods. That's really important. It needs to be organic. 497 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.119 And even organic you know here is not necessarily safe because it can have 498 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.039 glyphysate in it, but it generally has a lot less than non organic food. 499 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:13.679 I want you to talk briefly on the ecosystem and how it's disrupted by 500 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:19.320 this, specifically the insect life, which is very We might think of flies 501 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.679 and gnats and stuff like that as being bothersome, but in the ecosystem when 502 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.719 we have harvests and we have bees pollinating flour and we get our honey. 503 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:36.559 Talk about the loss of the insect life. That's incredible, and it actually 504 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.719 really frustrated me when I saw all this talk about the bee colony collapse syndrome 505 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.840 and about the monarch butterfly disappearing. You know, all this talk about it, 506 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:50.599 and almost never is glycy mentioned as a possible cause, which really frustrates 507 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.360 me because I think pizate is a major player in both of those problems, 508 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.400 along with the insecticide. I mean, of course you can expect the insecticides 509 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.320 to be a problematic for the bees and the butterflies, but the but the 510 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.119 glyph is it is. I think I suspect it's the primary cause of both 511 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:12.440 of those problems, the bee colony collapse syndrome and the monarch butterfly. Monarch 512 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.079 butterfly is very good example because it eats milkweed, and milkweed is a weed 513 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:20.519 that grows in corn crops, and the corn crops, of course are GMO 514 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.239 around up ready, so they're sprayed with glype you say, thips that goes 515 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.320 into the milkweed, and the butterfly gets poisoned by eating the milkweed. That 516 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.239 is a very simple story, and that to me is the primary cause of 517 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:35.000 the loss of the monarch butterfly and then the bees, you know, honey. 518 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.280 So there was a study I found on honey. It was, oh 519 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.079 that horrible. Yeah, it was amazing because they got they did a lot 520 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.320 of samples of honeys from different parts of the world, in Mexico and Canada 521 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.800 and the United States and other other places. But they found and they had 522 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.800 this big display of all the levels of all the different and they had all 523 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.239 this you could see that all these ones here in the middle that were USA, 524 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.760 you know, they were way high compared to the others. It was 525 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.679 just very clear that you could because you said it perfectly. Honey bees don't 526 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.360 discriminate what flowers they Yeah, they don't know how to go on yet. 527 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.800 They just go find a flower and open the best. So the bees are 528 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:13.920 being poisoned's in the honey. And studies on the bees have shown that they 529 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.480 get kind of a be autism or a b Alzheimer's disease when they're exposed to 530 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.920 buycasay. They message up they've got microbiome, just as it does ours. 531 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:30.320 Yeah. Uh, does Monsanto sell just glifossate as a binder for other products? 532 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.880 Is it used outside of the herbicide? Is this why we see it 533 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:39.039 so widely? It's actually, I think basically only used as an herbicide these 534 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.199 days. It was originally patented as a pipe cleaner, yeah, get strips 535 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.119 metals off of pipes. And I actually think that may have something to do 536 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:51.800 with LEEP Michigan and their problem with lead, because I suspect they ended up 537 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:57.280 with glycosting the water supply because they weren't filtering it properly. In the filtration 538 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.519 they changed the water supply to be these rivers that go through the GMO around 539 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:07.079 a bretty country, and then they didn't have adequate treatment plants. Fortunately, 540 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.920 and most of the water supply is treated with chlorine in this country, and 541 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.199 chlorine actually breaks down glycos non and somatically. I think I was so happy 542 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.840 when I saw that chlorine is not good. You know, it can be 543 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:22.239 toxic. Too much chlorine in your water and it kills the bugs, which 544 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.559 is how you can prevent getting dysentery and other kinds of diseases that you might 545 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.159 get from microbes in the water. But it also kills the glycos eate and 546 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.800 that is so fortunate because I think we would be much worse off if we 547 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:37.559 weren't using chlorine to kill chlorine in the water supply to clean it. You 548 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:44.360 know. Wow. I want you to talk about the neurological effects of lifeless 549 00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:50.480 eate and how you feel. Especially in the United States, we have a 550 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:55.639 very high dementia at Alzheimer's rate, and I can't remember where you quoted it, 551 00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.519 but it's an alarming, alarming number. Talk a little bit about what 552 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.519 you believe might be happening. Yeah, I think there are many different ways 553 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.880 in which GlyP is eight causes Alzheimer's and autism, and I think those two 554 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.159 diseases are actually related. It's kind of like, in my opinion, sort 555 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.039 of the same disease at different age groups because you have a different response. 556 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.199 It's the whole metabolic system when you're an infant versus when you're an adult or 557 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.599 an old person. But in both cases, I think life is eight is 558 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:29.880 causing neurological disruption that has some parallels between the Alzheimer's and the autism. And 559 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.960 one issue I suspect is aluminium because and actually I wrote a paper together with 560 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.360 colleagues about glycoze eight and aluminum, because glyc is eight binds to metals very 561 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.280 very well, and I found a paper that talked about how two glyphis eight 562 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.679 molecules would wrap around and the aluminium atom and hide its plus thy charge. 563 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:52.079 Aluminium is a toxic metal, has no use in biology, and it carries 564 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.440 a plus three charge all the time. It doesn't change from plus three and 565 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.880 plus three charge is like very positively charged, which makes it hard for it 566 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.840 to get across barriers. But when you wrap it up with a couple of 567 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.760 glyphis eate molecules, which are negatively charged, you end up with a neutral, 568 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.840 small, neutral molecule that can easily get past barriers because it's not charged. 569 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:14.360 And on top of that, glypiz eate causes a leaky gut, So 570 00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:20.000 the combination of a leaky gut and a small molecule hold hiding the aluminum allows 571 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.239 the glyphiz eate to escort them out of the gut into the blood supply over 572 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.760 to the brain, and I think peticularly to the pineal gland, which is 573 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.199 outside of the blood brain barrier. It's susceptible to anything coming from the blood 574 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:36.159 and then because of it being terminal watershed, it's an acidic pH the pH 575 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.320 goes down, which makes the glyphi is eight let go, and now it 576 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.920 releases this aluminum atom that can then do damage to the brain. So the 577 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.119 paneogland gets exposed to aluminum, which messes up its ability to do its job. 578 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.519 One thing you get is melotonin deficiency. Of course, then you have 579 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.559 sleep disorder, and sleep disorder is an epidemic going up exactly in step of 580 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:59.960 the rise of glyphys eate and sleep disorder is connected to both autism and Alzheimer's. 581 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.239 But then you get damage to the brain. Alzheimer's. Both autism and 582 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:09.239 Alzheimer's have been associated with post wartum Studies have shown high levels of aluminum in 583 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.239 the autistic brain and in the Alzheimer's brain, and that aluminum gets into that 584 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.599 plaque, you know, the Alzheimer's famous Alzheimer's plaque has aluminum trapped in it. 585 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:24.440 And it's very it's very clear that aluminum is causal in both Alzheimer's and 586 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:32.119 autism. Is there something that can leach glacyssate out of the body once you 587 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.360 have say you've been eating it for a year or so and you're just discovered 588 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:43.760 you read toxic legacy by you Miss Stephanie, and you want to get it 589 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:49.199 out of your system? Is there? I mean I do two three four 590 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.840 day fasts sometimes and fasting can be with just water that can be helpful. 591 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.400 But is there a system that you've come up with or you've developed to kind 592 00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.000 of leach the poison and toxins out. I think it's very very difficult to 593 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:06.639 get glyphosatee out. Once it's in your proteins and your tissues, it's very 594 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:07.840 hard to get it out. But you're right, take if you do it 595 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.960 fast, that's going to cause your body to want to consume its all the 596 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.599 nutrition from the body, and that's going to mean actually breaking down things like 597 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:21.400 you know, broken proteins and so I think that glyphosate gets embedded in the 598 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.400 proteins, which breaks them, and if you don't have a good system, 599 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:29.800 your cells can end up with defective lycisomes where they can't actually clear cellular debris. 600 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.239 They get this debris from sort of living that cells get. You know, 601 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.119 molecules get damaged and they have to be broken down and reassembled in something 602 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.639 new, and that whole process can get bogged down because of again, because 603 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.679 of toxicity. Glypisate ironically is one of the contributors to making lysisomes not working 604 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.639 well. The cell's digestive system is broken, it can't clear the debris. 605 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.000 But if you starve yourself then it will be more. It'll turn on the 606 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:57.400 mechanisms that actually break things down, and so it'll break down those proteins that 607 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.039 are contaminated with glypis. Free up the glyph is eate and release it into 608 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.599 the circulation, and then you would hope that it might pass out through the 609 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:08.199 urine through the species. Through that process, it could also just get incorporated 610 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.920 into another protein and go on with its life, because that's the thing. 611 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.719 Gladysy can move around from protein to protein, causing different kinds of damage depending 612 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:22.360 upon which protein it hits. But there are some things that have been recommended 613 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.800 by some nutrital folks who are friends of mine, and one of the things 614 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.920 they recommend is humic acid and fulviac acid, which is like organic matter from 615 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.559 the soil, is the complex organic molecules, and you can get those pretty 616 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.159 easily on the web. Humic acid pulvic acid. They apparently are a good 617 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.280 binders and the thought is that they would bind to glyphy is eate and then 618 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.559 carry it out through the field, and they might even have enzymes embedded in 619 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.159 them that are able to break down glyphysate. That's the thing that I look 620 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.800 for, is enzymes that can break it down. And one thing I'm hopeful 621 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:58.719 about is Acetobacter because Acetobacter is one of the few species. There are strains 622 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.800 of Acetobacter, I don't think all all of them that can break g lipozate 623 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.559 down. Glactate has a tough seky bond, it's called in chemistry carbon boss 624 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.880 respond that's very difficult for most Most animals don't know what to do with that, 625 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.639 and they can't break it down. That's one reason why it's so toxic. 626 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:19.480 But there are some There are some microbes that can and a pseudobacter is 627 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.760 one of them. Also one called Pseudamonis oruginosa, which is not one you 628 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.039 want to have because that's a toxic you know, that's a pathogen Cinemonus organosa 629 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.079 that's causing a lot of trouble in the hospitals these days. It can break 630 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:36.239 down glycos and I suspect that maybe a reason why it's becoming a problem because 631 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.679 it's doing a service for the host by removing the blap ysate, but at 632 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:45.800 the same time it releases toxic molecules. They cause trouble. Uh. I'm 633 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.159 trying to find the positive notes here on any I can't. I have a 634 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:52.920 sad one I'm going to bring up with you. I found this on the 635 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.719 site. You don't talk in this book about statins. But here in the 636 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:02.280 United States, the medical in this all all about getting rid of and reducing 637 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:12.360 cholesterol. And in these statin drugs there is uh glyphosate residuals. Talk a 638 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.920 little bit about this, and I stopped taking my statins about it almost a 639 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:23.360 year ago, simply because I was having neurological problems. They were causing problems 640 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:28.719 with my hands. So I'm not surprised we talk about statins. Yeah, 641 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.199 I don't know about glycosiden statins, but I do know about statins, and 642 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:36.719 I have actually written about statins, even in published papers. And I consider 643 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.440 status to be basically a toxic A toxin, I you know you're taking a 644 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.320 something that's poisoned you when you take a stat I strongly believe that statins are 645 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.800 never useful for anyone I will go out on a limb and say that. 646 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.719 You know, it does knock down the cholesterol very well, which is not 647 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.079 a good thing, because cholesterol is actually essential for your health. You know, 648 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:05.159 mammals depend upon cholesterol the way plants depend upon chlorophyll. It's like chlorophyll 649 00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.639 animals. Cholesterol isn't essential. It's only found in animal based foods. As 650 00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:14.239 you probably know, plants don't make cholesterol, so unique chemical and unique molecule 651 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.800 that animals use in very very important ways, and especially in the brain. 652 00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.159 The brain has much more cholesterol than other organs in the body. Oh. 653 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.320 Interesting, so we're trying to here, we are pharmaceutical companies trying to remove 654 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:32.719 cholesterol or and it's actually a positive. Yeah, so it's causing these diseases. 655 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.880 I actually did a study many years ago. I was studying status before 656 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.880 I got it came upon life is that back in probably two thousand and seven 657 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:43.639 or something like that there two thousand and eight, I forget. I published 658 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.159 a paper together with my student on statin drugs. It was a fun paper. 659 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:52.119 We actually got data from the web. There are these websites like WebMD 660 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.960 patients like us where you can actually report your experience with your drug. So 661 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.800 we got all this data from the web. This was back when you were 662 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.119 just starting to get the idea of processing web data, and you know, 663 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.159 I'm a computer scientist. And so we got all the data of different side 664 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:12.400 effect reports of different patients for statins and for all kinds of other drugs. 665 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.760 And then we collected two groups. One was all the statin drug reports and 666 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.519 the other one was all the other drug reports, and we normalized them so 667 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.119 they had exactly the same age distribution. So you're looking at people at the 668 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.719 same age if they get a statin versus another drug, which diseases, which 669 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.400 which which problems that do they come up with? That are more statistically more 670 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.280 common with the statin drug than with all the other drugs. And we found 671 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.440 an incredible correlation with all kinds of horrible things, including things like Alzheimer's and 672 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.920 Parkinson's disease. Oh my god, can't get clear. All right, let's 673 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:50.000 try to go on a positive note, living the best we can. Commercial 674 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:57.400 versus organic. What do we find is the difference? Obvious difference is one 675 00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:05.199 the commercial is sprayed with herbicides and the organic is not. But what other 676 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.880 things can we do? To live our best here in the United States, 677 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.000 eating certified organic is actually number one. I think it's the most important thing. 678 00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.800 Whenever you buy at the grocery store, make sure it says certified organic 679 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.280 on the label. And actually you can do that quite well these days. 680 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:22.440 I'm encouraged to see, especially places like Costco and Whole Foods, they have 681 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.840 a lot of certified organic choices and you can get pretty much anything you need 682 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.000 certified organic, like all the spices and the wine, the beer, by 683 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.320 the way, the alcohol is all all the beers and wines are testing positive 684 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.400 for glycos eate. You know, are they really even the microbreweries huh, 685 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.199 well, yeah, microbreweries. But even though even though organics can have small 686 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.280 amounts because they grow next to a bunch of farms that have got music lipe, 687 00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:51.719 is it so much less in the organics and so you know, anyway, 688 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.559 so you have not just your food, but your spices, and even 689 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.119 I suspect your drugs. I mean, I think you have to worry about 690 00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:02.000 glycis eate even in your supplements. Ample. Even the pill comes in a 691 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:08.719 sort of gelatin shell, right, and gelatin is very highly contaminated with glacida 692 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:14.159 it's not organic because it has lots and lots of college of glycine, and 693 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:17.920 glicas is substituting for glycine in the collagen I suspect. My friend Anthony Samsel 694 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.960 has tested a lot of interesting things for glycos. He tested jello. He 695 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.920 tested a bone that he got from a kful cow, you know, the 696 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:30.559 confined animal feeding operation cow. He got the bone. He just tested it 697 00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.239 and found glycidiated in the bone high levels. So it's going into collagen. 698 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.000 And then collagen is used to make gel caps. And then gel caps are 699 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.599 you put your you know, supplement inside your gel cap and you're eating you're 700 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.159 eating glycas when you take your pill. What about meat eaters, that's a 701 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:51.559 tough one because unless they're you know, cow farm that is, uh, 702 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:58.800 be very careful of the feed. Cows get all kinds of horrible stuff in 703 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.159 your meat. Cows eat a lot of glac. To say, today, 704 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.880 they have much higher limits actually in the regular choy the regular regular choice system 705 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:07.880 does have some limits on how much glac state is allowed in certain foods, 706 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.920 but they allow like ten times as much in the foods that are fed to 707 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.039 the cows versus the humans. And they feed them all these foods that are 708 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.280 GMO around up ready crops, so they get lots of glycys eate in their 709 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.480 feet and they get sick as well. There's a lot of trouble with the 710 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.719 cows these days. Yeah. I mean the problem is that I've tried to 711 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.320 be a vegetarian and then it's just really a challenge. You got to have 712 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:37.239 your protein. So I don't agree with vegetai. I think you should be 713 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:42.840 eating, especially what really healthy foods are seafood or seafood. You're in Hawaii, 714 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.639 so you have all kinds of seafood. Seafood is definitely a very healthy 715 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.880 choice, even though it has lots and lots of cholesterol, maybe because it 716 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.079 has lots and lots of cholesterol. And fish, of course is also healthy. 717 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:59.039 Of course, fish can have problems because of again human interference with the 718 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.599 mercury in the fish, so that's a problem there. So what do you 719 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:09.320 suggesting for red meat? Grass fed beef is good, and you can get 720 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.360 organic organic pork. It's hard to get, but you can get organic bacon, 721 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.480 and I like organic bacon. I eat a lot of that. In 722 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:22.960 fact, I use organic lard as my oil. People use these cheap vegetable 723 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:29.039 oils like soybean oil and canola oil. Those are loaded with glyphisate. Organic 724 00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:30.920 lard and butter. Butter, by the way, is an extremely healthy food 725 00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:37.599 again, very high cholesterol, extremely healthy. Wow, if we have an 726 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:45.440 overwhelming amount of glyphissed in our soil and water, are we needing to drink 727 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:50.840 just distilled and purified water. That's another problem. Absolutely you need to worry 728 00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.639 about your water supply and it could be high in GlyP state, especially if 729 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:57.920 you're living in a farm community. Right, you can get your water tested 730 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.000 for glyphizate, and there are and you can use, you know, filters 731 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:05.760 to get it out pretty much. Reverse ophomosis is about the only filter that 732 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:09.679 works to get reverse osmosis. Is distilled that gets you, that gets rid 733 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.719 of all the minerals, which is a problem because then distilled water is not 734 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.039 good for you. In fact, you know, mineral water is a very 735 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:21.400 healthy source of water, but that's coming down the lakes or whatever it could 736 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.599 be, picked it up from the farm land exactly, it can be loaded 737 00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.800 with glydeazates. So this is a problem that many things that are really good 738 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.920 for you normally are no longer good for you. Because of the contamination with 739 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.039 glypasates, it makes it really hard to thread the needle to find a way 740 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.559 to stay healthy in the presence of all this exposure. It's really difficult, 741 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:44.239 you know. It's it's sad that the government isn't staying on top of this 742 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:50.519 and doesn't seem to have, as you site say, a concern. That's 743 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.480 amazing to me. I mean because when you think about the autism rates and 744 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:57.639 as I said one and I think it's thirty eight now nationwide in the United 745 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.199 States, always going up, and so you know, in another ten years, 746 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.719 and of course you've got all these early cases now graduating out of it 747 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.559 into adulthood, and now we have to figure out how to deal with adults 748 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:12.400 with autism because we didn't have that before. Now we do, and the 749 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.960 country doesn't necessarily have outequate facilities for that, you know, and once the 750 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.880 once the parents die, then those people are left stranded. We're going to 751 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:25.119 have that, We're going to face that another twenty years autistics whose parents are 752 00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.400 dead, and now who's going to take care of them. I think it's 753 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:32.519 a horrible problem. And I think we're going to have a situation where anybody 754 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:37.000 who's still healthy in this in this country is going to spend all their time 755 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.199 taking care of friends and relatives who are sick. And we won't be able 756 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:43.480 to do anything else other than take care of the sick. And of course 757 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.400 the pharmaceutical industry will do very well because they're pushing, pushing all those bills. 758 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.599 You know, they like us sick. That's one of the big problems. 759 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.840 It's kind of ironic that the pharmaceutical industry and the agrochemical industry are the 760 00:59:53.880 --> 01:00:00.199 same thing these days. Well you're saying Bear owns Monsanto now, and Genti 761 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:06.320 is also I think connected to the pharmaceutical industry. It's they kind of know. 762 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:07.840 I think that, oh gosh, if we just keep people sick, 763 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.000 we'll make lots of money. It's very cynical to say that. But I 764 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.800 don't know. I can't see another way. You know, the reasoning seems 765 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:20.360 sounds to me. Do you think the Europeans, who have been aware of 766 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:27.159 this poison for decades, Uh, just are more up on top of this 767 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.760 and they don't want to poison their citizens or I mean, they're not obviously 768 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:37.960 purposefully doing this. It's just an industry that's making money, you know. 769 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.440 Is it just that the Americans are just tied to the almighty dollar and that's 770 01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.039 just the bottom line, or what do you think's going on here? I 771 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:50.519 just think the pharmaceutical industry and the aga chemical industry are too strong in the 772 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.519 lobby system that they influenced the government to just go wink wink and say, 773 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:57.320 yeah, it's okay, we don't care for poisoning the society, or they 774 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.719 convince them that that they're not, you know, through false studies. It's 775 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.840 we don't seem to have an adequate awareness of the need for things like basic 776 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:12.880 healthy food. And of course even the processed food industry is very strong also, 777 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:16.639 so they're promoting their process food just being good for you. That's horrible. 778 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:22.639 The books called Toxic Legacy. My guest today has been Stephanie Sinof, 779 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:27.760 and this book's been out a couple of years. It is packed full, 780 01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:36.880 my friends, of data on the neurological effects, the problems with reproduction. 781 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:44.960 We just mentioned a few. Are you following this book up with specific portions 782 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.719 and writing another book or or is it more like I've done the book. 783 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:54.760 You guys can grab it, call me if you need me. Actually, 784 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.199 I'm onto something else right now, and I'm really excited about I love biology 785 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.320 and it's a giant puzzle and I like a puzzle, and I've picked up 786 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.039 on deuterium. I'll just mention this to you briefly. Deuetarium is heavy hydrogen. 787 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.639 It's a natural element, and I've realized I've come to realize that getarium 788 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:16.559 plays in a very important role in body metabolism, and that there are whole 789 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.800 systems that are involved with managing detrium the way they would be, for example, 790 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.639 for iron or seek all these critical minerals that have very interesting positive effects 791 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.519 but also negative effects that they can be toxic, both toxic and essential elements, 792 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.960 and deuterium is like that, but then there's a system that manages it 793 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:38.559 very beautifully. But life is a train wreck for that system, and so 794 01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:45.199 detarium management becomes derailed and the mitochondria gets sick. And that's been my big 795 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.039 thing lately. I've done some podcast interviews on that. It's really fascinating science. 796 01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.280 And I would love to write a book on deuterium if I can live 797 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.039 long enough and get enough energy. But that would be my next goal is 798 01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.400 to book. You're right, there's a lot of energy to put it. 799 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:05.039 Do you have a website, Stephanie. Stephanie said, dot net. Stephanie 800 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:08.039 said, dot net, Okay, I'll put that up. And are you 801 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:13.440 on YouTube with lectures or talks or anything things like this. I do a 802 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.880 lot of these podcast interviews. I enjoyed talking to people like you, and 803 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.320 it's great that you do these the service for people because it's great. So 804 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.519 mostly podcast uders. I do have a we have a group called new MDS, 805 01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.159 the New MDS newf like medical doctor. Yeah, MDS in our case 806 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:35.320 stands for moms, doctors and scientists, the new mds. And that's then 807 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.639 honey got I mentioned earlier, and then Michelle Perrow who's a pediatrician. So 808 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.599 Zen is the mother. We're all mothers, but Zen is the mother. 809 01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.440 Michelle is the pediatrician, and I'm the scientist MDS and we've done I don't 810 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:50.239 know, maybe nineteen twenty episodes so far. We do wonder that excellent. 811 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:55.880 As we leave you, Stephanie, what's the what, what's the future whole? 812 01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:04.400 What's your gut feeling on this blind use of this life to see? 813 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.800 Well? I think if we don't do something soon, it's going to be 814 01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.519 devastation for this country. I think we're going to be pretty much taken down 815 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:15.719 by it, because, first of all, reproductive rates will go way down, 816 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.239 and so many kids will be sick with so many problems, and the 817 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:24.800 society will be overburdened with the healthcare issues of everybody who's getting sick, not 818 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.599 just the kids, but the adults and the old. People will be overwhelmed 819 01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.360 by the medical needs of our society, which will prevent us from really doing 820 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.280 anything other than just taking care of sick people. So I think we're headed 821 01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:41.039 for a disaster. Also a very big drop in the population, which in 822 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:44.639 some ways could be a good thing. But the people who wake up and 823 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.639 realize how to stay healthy, and I want to mention not only eating healthy 824 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.760 food, eating whole foods, eating organic food, and also getting out in 825 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:55.239 the sunlight, getting a lot of sun exposure, both to the skin and 826 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.039 to the eyes. I think those are very important things to do to stay 827 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.239 healthy. All right, thank you very much. It's a pleasure. I'm 828 01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.760 gonna have to have you back on some specifics that I couldn't cover this time. 829 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:13.159 But a fascinating work. And thank you for writing this book. Thank 830 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:19.679 you, thank you very much for doing disservice, appreciate it. We didn't 831 01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:27.840 have time to get into all the disrupting properties of this lifeless say weed killer. 832 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:34.199 It is so toxic that it is a precursor for lots of cancers, 833 01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.679 and we didn't even get into the cancers because it's kind of kind of a 834 01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:45.559 downer, but most cancers take a long time to develop. If your system's 835 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:56.679 being stimulated in a negative fashion, if you are taking poisons slowly poisoning your 836 01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:03.239 body and creating tumors. We don't really know for sure, but it's looking 837 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:12.880 like through studies that it's lethal. Life of state is lethal, and we 838 01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:16.480 just don't need to have that. And if you've been eating fruits and vegetables 839 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:20.639 that are covered with it, you don't immediately get poisoned, but after a 840 01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:26.880 period of time it begins to shift your shift you on a cellular level, 841 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.920 and you know you're having all of a sudden, you're having growths, you're 842 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:38.920 having organ problems, Organs shut down, and that's just a terrible way to 843 01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:45.599 live and it should be outlawed. So and the way she described how it's 844 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:53.639 being covered up and protected by monsanto, it's just it's almost criminal and this 845 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.559 has always been a problem for me because if you go to Europe, a 846 01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:03.599 lot of the pesticides are not allowed. Number one, GMOs are outlawed and 847 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:10.880 banned in France and in Germany, I think even in England now and we 848 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:16.039 should not be eating a produce that's created by GMOs. We just don't need 849 01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:20.920 that. So it's a wake up call. It's a complete wake up call. 850 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:28.239 Hey, summer is here and it's time to be thinking about vacations. 851 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.199 We have a final tour in Mexico. It's going to be November eighth through 852 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:38.800 the seventeenth. It's our Sacred Temples of Mexico and it is a week it's 853 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:43.400 only one week of fun and adventure. We really pack a lot in We 854 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:48.360 go to see since you Ushmol, all the classic sites, Myapan and even 855 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:53.440 Ekba Long which they've recently discovered, and we talked about this at the beginning 856 01:07:53.440 --> 01:08:00.920 of the show. They've done some excavations that came along following the Maya Train, 857 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:08.320 which is very close to Equialam, and they have found some new ruins 858 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:14.000 and have been excavating and consolidating. This site for all the details on all 859 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.720 of our tours and all of our upcoming events. Go to Earthancients dot com 860 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:25.479 forward slash Tours you'll get the entire itinerary. This is a one week tour. 861 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:30.760 We all meet in Mareta, Mexico and then we bust to these sites 862 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:35.399 so and they're a blast. This is a real fun tour. And the 863 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:40.880 reason we go to Yucatan is that you don't have the same kind of oversight 864 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.840 in interacting with buildings that you have at other places. And I know at 865 01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:50.199 tot Wacon you can't climb the Sun Pyramid anymore or the Moon Pyramid. You 866 01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:55.840 can get close to the Serpent Pyramid, but you can't climb the stairs anymore, 867 01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:59.800 which is kind of sad because that's a huge place. But in Yucatan, 868 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.159 we get to climb the Great Pyramid at Ushmahl, we get to climb 869 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:11.640 the Stairway Palace at Equilom and Miapan over and over and over again. We 870 01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.319 get to interact and that's really what you want to do because then you can 871 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.319 kind of get a sense of the energy, you can get a sense of 872 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:21.399 how they design the sites. And if you climb these pyramids, they're also 873 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:28.119 observatory. You can see great distances and you can also see the heavens. 874 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.920 So again for all of our tours. For more information go to earthacients dot 875 01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:39.079 com forward slash tours. All right, that's it for this program. I 876 01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.960 want to thank my guest today, doctor Stephanie Sinneth, discussing her book Toxic 877 01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:48.560 Legacy. As always the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone 878 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:55.479 who makes this thing happen. You guys rock, all right, take care, 879 01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:28.159 be well, and we will talk to you next time. So in