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Breaking down all the ex'es and olls. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salmis.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteenth fifty Heay, welcome back

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to all you about here Fox Sports
fourteen fifty M. Steve. He's Jake

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Samuel breaking news on the ball news. Okay, I'm sure you guys had

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to have talked a little bit about
it yesterday. But the NCAA's president kind

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of proposing a new NIL proposal,
and in this most recent article written by

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ESPN Charlie Baker, the NCAA president
saying that this is just a starting point

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of where he wants to go,
and he mentioned that Division one might be

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split up, not into tiers,
but there might be a top tier of

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teams that want to pay their athletes
more than just their scholarship. And so

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some of it, he's saying that
some people are going to say you're going

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too far. Some people will say
you're not going far. And Baker said,

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I promise you that's going to be
where most of the dialogue on this

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will be in the short term.
So it sounds like there's obviously this isn't

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going to happen overnight, but the
NCAA's president wants ANIOL to continue to take

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over college sports. Well, well, the conversation needs to be had.

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And what one of the reasons we
are where we are is because they didn't

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do anything right? Right, right
right? Well, like you said yesterday,

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the toothpases out of the tube.
Now they're just going to try to

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fix it. I don't know if
they can. I don't know either.

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Yeah, and so it says Baker's
proposal would require schools that want to be

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a part of this new tier of
Division one to pay their athletes tens of

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thousands of dollars per year on top
of their athletic scholarship. Well that that

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wasn't clear yesterday. Yeah, we
hadn't heard it. You know, is

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tuition and room and board part of
the thirty thousand dollars that they're talking about,

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that that would be a minimum.
So it sounds like it's not.

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Well, here here's the key.
So some guys, let's say, Caleb

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Williams, that type of people,
What the hell I'm here, Caleb Williams

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goes, I keep that in my
couch cushion. Yeah, and I guess

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a part of this new Division one. They said that schools would be also

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allowed to create their own set of
rules for recruiting, transfers, roster size,

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and other policies. So kind of
recreating the nc double A, which

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no, they're recreating the NFL is
what they're in the NBA. Yeah,

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so it's a it's a it's a
lower level NBA, which then I you

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know, you're almost gonna have to
take away rules about who can go straight

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to the NBA, you know,
from college and stuff like that. They

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don't eve want if this is just
going to be an in between places to

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go make a little money, some
some guys are gonna want to say,

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I just want to go make the
big money right now. Yeah. Well,

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and in basketball's case, you kind
of have that in the G League

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of where you see a lot of
guys high recruits that maybe think they are

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good enough to play in the league
or some sort of professionalism. They go

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to the G League, make some
money, they get to play against other

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professionals, and maybe but it's still
more than sure. I mean, it

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also depends this was this the G
League option was a little bit more financially

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smart, went before an I sure, no, I'm sorry, where are

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you going to go? With this, No, I was just going to

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say it sounds like because Jay was
mentioning, like to bridge that gap of

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like that's what maybe they're trying to
do. But some some sports, like

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the NBA kind of offer that if
you do want to go make some money,

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play against professionals. But just I
don't. You don't watch NBA that

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much, right, I don't,
and I don't. I do certain times

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and you probably do semi. But
then some names, some names on the

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rosters, you never heard of them, you've never heard of You go to

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the D League or G League and
look at some those guys. We know

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some of those, Yeah, and
they'll never touch the NBA, right,

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because once you're there, it's a
heck of a lot of work to get

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out of there. Yeah, And
it's well, that's that's if you've been

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in the league before. I think, because if I was looking up NBA

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mock drafts the other day, just
like kind of what I do sometimes,

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and like I want to say,
ten out of the first like twenty picks

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are all G League guys, and
so it's it's kind of like if this

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is their end goal to make it
to the NBA, to get a first

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contract in the league. Then that
is proving to be just the first point

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they check off. Some of these
guys obviously aren't going to be super successful

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in the NBA. It's hard to. But it's then say kind of that

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new tiers maybe kind of what they're
looking at of like, we're gonna we're

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gonna pay you. It's gonna be
different, but it's not gonna be for

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everyone. Well, yeah, and
plus and again in the added bonus,

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you're gonna you're getting an education too. Yeah. You go to school seriously

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and you come out of here with
a degree where you go straight to the

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G League. You got a high
school diploma. You got to go back

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to and at some point if you
you know, if you become a businessman

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or whatever, yeah you're doing,
you need to go back to school.

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Yeah, So we'll see how that
develops. U A's basketball game this weekend

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will be a ranked on ranked game. Yes, u of A's number one

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in the country. Wisconsin now up
to twenty third in the country at six

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and two, And take take a
guess at who's right above Wisconsin in the

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rankings. Duke Duke is twenty two
after their third loss in Michigan. State

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no longer. They lost again.
Yeah, they're five and three. I

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didn't know they lost again. I
they lost a second time, but I

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know they lost Georgia Tech. Georgia
Tech beat him. Yeah remember Damon Damon,

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Well yeah, I thought that was
only their second loss. The lost

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again. They lost, So they
lost to US and then Georgia Arkansas the

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right, they lost Arkansas. Then
I did know that they had three losses.

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And let's remember that the first initial
poll is just an eye test and

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names or you don't really know who's
good or who's not good. Even even

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now, you're kind of just settling
in. Right. I'm looking at the

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AP top twenty five right now,
and the one in the preseason. Arizona's

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wasn't in the top ten. Preseason, the number one, Kansas obviously was.

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Houston was not there, Number three
in the country, Purdue, Yukon

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both were in there, and then
Baylor and Gonzaga were not in there.

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They're now six and seven. Marquette
was North Carolina's up to nine, and

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now Creighton's ten. You got beat
last night, Carolina to get beat by

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Yukon last night. I watched the
college basketball no way, but that game

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to me, it's more appealing than
the NBA's way, more appealing to than

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the NBA way way more Man,
that hurts. That hurts. It's more

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fun to watch. Oh man,
it is not. Because I don't get

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me wrong. I'm I could go
on a tangent. What do you have

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to say, don't get me wrong? That means we don't get me wrong?

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Man, excuse me, I hate
to bother you or what are you

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gonna do? Man? Because I
because I could go on tangents about this,

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I under stand it kind of like
saying I'm not a racist, but

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like the whole, the whole.
If you're a basketball fan and you're saying

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that watching college basketball is more entertaining
and better, then you're not a basketball

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fan because those guys a minute percentage
of them are going to play in the

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NBA, which is the best quality. I'm gonna do this. I'm jumping

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in right here. Okay, before
you go any further, is that to

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me watching I don't watch basketball for
the quality of the player. I watched

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basketball. I watched college basketball because
of the the environment, the excitement,

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how the how meaningful it is to
these guys. Sure, and I never

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said that That's why I watch it. That's why I think NCAA Tournament is

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like incredible, especially when when you
get these guys at Saint Peter's and all

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these places that you know, Princeton
or wherever that come out and give everything

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they have to win a game.
I never feel like an NBA guys giving

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everything he had ever. Maybe last
night they got robbed, that was that

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was next up. But to go
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that for a majority of the these
guys playing in college basketball, this will

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be the peak of their of their
basketball game. And as someone that had

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a dream of playing college basketball or
just basketball as long as they could,

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like I totally respect that, and
you do see that on a night tonight

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basis when a look, when you
have two mid majors playing against each other,

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they get after it, right.
I respect that. But when it

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comes to like I love watching high
quality basketball, and so like when UFA

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plays Duke, Like that's a game
where I would love to watch because those

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guys you might be seeing in NBA
jerseys or overseas, and that game is

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gonna be high quality game. It's
just hard for me to wrap my self

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around just on a night watching games
that where most of these guys just may

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not be playing at the next level
when I could be watching, when I

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could be watching Detroit, Hey,
I would I would rather watch those guys

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major. But stop stop. Okay, some of my favorite games college basketball.

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Favorite games are the conference championship games, some of those lower mid major,

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lower major conference where you know you
have to win that game get into

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the NC Double Trump and they don't
care that they're gonna get into the NCY

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Double A tournament as a sixteenth seed, get beat by forty. They want

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to win so bad. I get
what you're saying, but do you I'll

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take NBA playoffs. I'll listen to
you that, but not regular seasons.

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Yeah, maybe even this playing games
like last night. Last night was high

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quality, like great stuff. Don't
did they get did they get? We

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got hose? I hate to bring
to bring weeds. Phoenix Suns got absolutely

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hose last night. And as someone
that watched from tip to the last play

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of the game, don't get me
wrong, the Suns maybe didn't deserve to

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win that game for how they played. It was one of their worst performances,

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I thought. But the last the
last two minute, reports you know

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refs do that in the NBA,
which is a joke. I don't think

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they should when when that one comes
out, there's gonna be quite some missed

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calls from from that from that crew. I think there was. Yeah,

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Sons were down two points with just
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to Austin Reeves for the Lakers.
If so, Lakers Suns and Booker and

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Durant both have five fouls, and
they go to trap them so they're not

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gonna foul because they're gonna foul out, and Austin Reeves loses the ball,

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it's at his feet, it's going
around. No one has possession, and

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all of a sudden ref blows for
time and Lebron James, who's one of

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my favorite players, but in this
case, dude, no one had possession,

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so no one could have called a
time out. The ball was rolling

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and Grayson Allen was either gonna pick
it up for a layup or it was

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gonna be Sun basketball and the bass
line. They gave the time out to

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the Lakers, and Anthony Davis ended
up going to hit a free throw and

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Sons are no longer in the n
season tournament, and there there are a

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lot of reasons why, and I'm
not going to just point to one missed

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call. They were a lot,
but Sons just needed to play better.

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They didn't. And now the inn
season tournament in Vegas is uh Pelicans,

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Lakers and Bucks Pacers. So he
looks like somebody just stole his ice cream

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cone from I was. You should
have seen me last night. I was.

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I was. I was on the
phone with like my friends, my

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parents and they were like, what's
wrong with you? You lost? I

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was so pissed off. Man.
I was like, oh man, but

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anyway, yeah, man, and
so I so after the fact, I

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went and like, as an NBA
nerd, I was like nerding out with

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like stats and it's almost it's about
a quarter the way through the NBA season.

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So here are my two favorite stats. Are three favorite stats from the

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NBA season thus far. So Tyrese
Haliburton, who's on the Indiana Pacers who

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are going to be in Vegas in
clutch time this year, so games under

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five minutes within five to nine points
is considered clutch time. He's shooting seventy

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three percent from the field, seventy
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from the free throw line, which
is nuts and absurd. So that's that's

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stat number one. You had to
dig. Why would you? Somebody needs

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to watch him at home? Me? Yes, what would you? Why?

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That's incredible because guys, first of
all, to shoot seventy seven percent

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from three in any circumstances nuts,
let alone in clutch. You're like searching

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for a fish in a big lake
thinking, oh, this fist catches my

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line. I don't know, man. And also the Indiana Pacers have the

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chance to have the best offense in
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history on one team, so it's
very interesting. Might be one of the

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reasons. Hey maybe Also Lebron stat
it is the longest period in between thirty

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point games in NBA history. So
he had thirty points last night, and

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he had thirty points exactly twenty years
ago to the day, So twenty years

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between thirty point games. And lastly, Monty Williams, the x Phoenix Suns

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coach, just I want to say, three years ago him and the Suns

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went undefeated in November, and this
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in November. So coaching matters.
Coaching and talent matters. Talent doesn't matter,

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and I'm saying the Pistons are still
very talented, they just need to

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figure it out. But also,
Zach Wilson, my doppelganger, is back

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at under center for the Jets this
week. And also twelve quarterbacks or twelve

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NFL teams are playing their backup quarterback
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den j might have one or two
of them. I haven't heard anymore about

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Trevor Lawrence, most because I love
because I'm upsetting him for being such a

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big baby. And last two things, no word on where Sho hal Tony's

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going. He's keeping his free agency
very under the radar, very quiet.

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And lastly, kind of it's not
sad news yet, but it would be

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detrimental to the PGA tour. A
lot of John Rahm Live going right now.

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And the number that I've been seeing
floating around is five hundred and fifty

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to six hundred million dollars. So
what yep? For half a billion dollars?

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For half a billion, it would
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Yeah, some interesting stats and breaking
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had to do last night. You
have a little inside baseball with that he

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did. Man, Holy cow.
All right, let's take our next break.

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We're to come back. Eric Rhodes
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haven't had a chance to talk to
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the phone. We have Eric Roads
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Bolt. How are you, Eric, I'm great, gentleman. How we

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doing today? We're doing fine.
You know. As I as driving into

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the to the show today, I'm
thinking, you guys do your due diligence,

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do a lot of stuff, you
know, scouting and do all these

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things, and I'm thinking, you
guys, really I don't say got lucky

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or whatever, because that's another case, but you guys are fortunate a good

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Wyoming team, a team that's been
here before, and a very good Toledo

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team coming here. Yeah, I
mean we were very excited when we saw

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the potential matchups, and you know, some other really good football teams were

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in the mix. But you know, you can never go wrong having Wyoming

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here in Tucson. They've shown up
before, they're ready to show up again

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this year. And then what today's
breaking news that our bowl game will be

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head coach Craig Bowles last game.
That's the head coach of Wyoming, he's

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retiring. It's just going to elevate
that. And so you know he's been

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at the Helm ten years in and
Laramie there, so you know it's I

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think we're gonna have one of the
biggest retirement parties south of Laramie, if

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you will. Well, you know, as you mentioned, Wyoming's been here

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before. What do you remember from
the last time they came down and how

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they you know, how they supported
their team. Yeah, I mean their

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hands are always great, and I
every time I'm surprised, you know,

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when we go around here in southern
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actually law you know, whether it's
an in law or somebody went to school

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there, they have family, or
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we have our advanced visits right now
in Wyoming. This is how small

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the world is. Their director of
football operations, we're outside a local restaurant,

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Barrio Brewery, who does a bowl
root for us, and their director

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of football operations ran into a guy
wearing a Wyoming hat. And it turns

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out they went to second grade together
in Wyoming and ran into each other thirty

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years later. So you know,
it's a big, small football community of

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Wyoming. There's no question. In
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if Cody is part of your group, but he turns into the mayor of

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Tucson when Wyoming's here. Yeah,
it's one of our first calls. We

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extended the invitation to Wyoming, and
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Okay, what do you mean,
Call all your buddies. Yeah,

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call all your buddies. Yeah.
So yeah, I'll have the Cody Richie

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Wyoming contingent will be in full force. Yeah. All you need to do

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now is is challenged Wyoming to drink
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people did. Yeah, you know, they came to this in the close

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second and we shared them with that
that that tidbit with them last year.

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So I think they've been training and
our local establishment has better be ready because

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they like to have a great time. They do it responsibly and if you

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run into them in town, just
talk to them. They are some really

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fun people. Well and so and
now and then you've got Toledo, which,

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again, you know, just one
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you know, as a MAC team
though you always think of them, right

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you think of the MAC, you
think of you think of Toledo because they're

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always you know, they always seem
to be there. Yeah, I mean,

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they're one of those programs. There's
there's a handful of the g fives,

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the Group of five that have a
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know, if you have a decent
football memory here in Arizona. They came

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to Tucson and twenty twelve, it
took Arizona in Week one to overtime and

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almost won that game. Yeah,
and then you know, they're the highest

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winning total team to ever play in
Arizonable. They have eleven wins. You

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don't do that by accident. You
don't do that by you know, running

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into you know, a bad football
team. They're a good, talented,

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well coached football team. In fact, in all the coaching carousels that's happening

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right now, I was a bit
surprised, and I'm gonna knock on wood

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here to see that their coach Kandell
has not been mentioned in a bunch of

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jobs because he's a great football coach. Yeah, yeah, no question.

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So this is a twenty four This
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kind of thing for you guys.
You finish the game, you get ready

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for the next one right away.
How was it in the final weeks before

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the actual event? You know,
it's I like to call it, you

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know, organized chaos as we've all
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used to talk talk about being comfortable
in the uncomfortable, and that's kind of

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what we do here for the entire
month of December at the Bowl, and

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our staff and our volunteers are all
amazing, our Blue Blazers. It's a

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it's a month of just kind of
being prepared for what other. And now

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that we've added the transfer portal into
the world, my gosh that you know,

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things can happen every day and we
can have different players and you know,

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you're just kind of ready for it
all. But we're very excited to

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the two teams that are coming.
You know, Jay, you mentioned a

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min ago we've had great football games
and I think this is going to be

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another good one. So what's when
you got to these two teams, and

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in particular two teams coming from you
know, really cold weather type places for

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you know, this time of year, what's the most important thing that you

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as a as a Bowl, as
a host have to have ready for them?

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What? What do you what's the
what's the main thing you want them

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to have when they get here?
Besides you know, yeah, besides side's

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about sixty five. If we could
have today's weather, it's you know,

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it'd be great. But we hang
our hat on hospitality. We have.

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This is our ninet year already,
which surprises a lot of people and where

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we've made a lot of headway and
been able to kind of rocket up the

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Bowl hierarchy, if you will,
is hospitality of Southern Arizona. We've done

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a great job. Every team from
the second day foot foot on the ground

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where they're to greet them, We
take them to all the great places.

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We have Ladies Day for their families, We have kids day at the Children's

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Museum here in town for the kids
is a week full of great activities that

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we want to showcase, not just
a good football game, not just our

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facilities for football, but Southern Arizona
as a whole, and really tell them,

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hey, this is one of the
places as you move into a career,

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all you student athletes, you might
consider moving someday too. Sounds a

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great community, yeah, especially will
You'll be specific because it's so darn cold

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up there, but it is.
I went Toledo, I'm sure it is

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too. So this game would not
work infl if not for the locals help

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you out with the volunteers, with
the jackets. You know, the people

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in jackets tell us about that and
how many volunteers and it's a wide ranging

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group, right, Oh my gosh, it's huge, and you head it

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on the head. We certainly could
not deal without them. We have our

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you know, our board of directors, which is phenomenal, a lot of

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great women and being here in the
community. Rocky the Rose is always the

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one I mentioned first, Like,
if you can be in college athletics,

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then you have Rocky the Rows on
your team. You know you're you're starting

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way ahead of most teams. You
know, Erica Barnes from Arizona is on

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our board as well. You know
Ted Maxwell from mets Als. But it's

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really our Blue Blazers, which there's
about one hundred of them. They're all

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volunteers. They are they are the
engine in our car. They help us

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go, they get out in the
community. They're there at five in the

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morning sometimes helping us out. There'll
be there all of whole week. A

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lot of them taking time off from
their jobs to help us. So,

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I mean, when you talk about
this being a community effort, there's a

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couple of us like myself who gets
to come on shows like yours and take

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some credit. But man, we
would not do this without an entire community

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effort. So obviously, you know
we don't want to you know, Kai

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bash the weather. We're always you
know, hoping for that. But you

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know, still in any case,
you know, when you're in Tucson in

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the end of December, no it
it always looks good, and you know

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it can be cold. I remember
there was one if you remember that was

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just but then it got warm.
Cold, but you're warmed up later in

407
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the day. But you know,
there's some things you can't control, you

408
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.039
know, do you do? You
put a bunch of things in place to,

409
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you know, in case something happens, in case this happens, the

410
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.599
case that happens, or is it
kind of like roll the dice, let's

411
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see what we get. Yeah,
I mean, honestly chase a little bit

412
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of both. You know, we
we certainly do have contingency plans for for

413
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.240
things. But uh, you know, from a weather steam point, especially,

414
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:55.680
both these teams think mid fifties is
summer. So while it's cold for

415
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:56.759
us, they're like, I don't
know what your problem is. You know.

416
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.720
It was funny today we were walking
around with the Toledo folks and showing

417
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.200
them facilities, and a couple of
us were wearing quarters that pullovers, and

418
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:11.079
they were wearing shorts and T shirts
and so we we're like those things.

419
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.240
And then you always got to resort
to what my grandmother used to say,

420
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.519
if you want to make God laugh, tell them your plans. So we

421
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.000
can plan the best we can.
But whatever's going to happen is going to

422
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.880
happen. And we've got a great
kind of army that will help us roll

423
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.720
with those punches. Yeah, no, no question. So what are you

424
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.559
hopeful for. I only tickets are
going out there and you're trying to sell

425
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.519
the heck out of this. What
are you hopeful for in terms of fans?

426
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.000
Yeah, I mean this year,
we're all very excited here and Tucson.

427
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.920
I can you know, I'm a
Tuson native, so I can be

428
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.000
at Homer hopefully on your show and
say we're all thrilled to watch you play

429
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.640
in a Bowl game. You know, I've watched a million games that areason

430
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.160
a stadium, so very excited for
that. We're hopeful that the folks who

431
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.240
tune into that are going to be
able to rally themselter one more football game

432
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:57.680
on a night Saturday afternoon. And
the thing to remember is any ticket you

433
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.759
buy, any beer you buy,
and soda, hot dog concessions at our

434
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.039
game goes towards that pocket. We're
going to give back to our community right

435
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.559
here in Tucson. So you know, those sort of things matter. Scanning

436
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.599
your ticket matters to us. And
in some of those Bowl games around the

437
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.799
country that are funded by ESPN,
they don't really care how many people are.

438
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:21.640
Understand they've already made their check from
ESPN. It matters every ticket that

439
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.720
scanned helps us give money back to
charity here in southern Arizona. So logistically,

440
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.839
I mean you probably you guys have
probably a big fat notebook that says

441
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.160
this has to be done by this
day. That's got to be done by

442
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.519
that day. Everything going smoothly,
you run into a lot of stuff.

443
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.279
I mean, how does this go
from year to year? You know,

444
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.079
learning lessons from the year before and
that kind of stuff. Oh my gosh,

445
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.039
Jay, it's like you're a prognosticator
or you've been in sports for a

446
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:52.400
really long time. That notebook is
sitting right in front of me right now.

447
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.920
It's our team manual. It's about
ninety seven pages long, and we've

448
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:02.200
been going through it with both teams
of the several days. So yeah,

449
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:07.720
there's there's a lot of planning as
obviously, you know the silly things that

450
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.119
you gosh would never think of,
Like here's the one I doubt what today

451
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.000
that kind of might be fun for
your listeners and something I just never thought

452
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.400
of. You know, we let
teams in based on uniform. Once they're

453
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.559
in their uniform, they don't need
a credential to get in. Well,

454
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.920
somebody brought up last year that their
mascot. The person who was their mascot

455
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.440
got stopped on the way in because
they didn't have a credential, nor did

456
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.359
they have a uniform because you know, they they weren't a rocket when they

457
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.240
were walking through the door. So, uh, you know, learn something

458
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.039
new. I've done this a bunch
of times, but I was like,

459
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:41.599
oh my gosh, I've got to
get a credential for the person who's the

460
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.880
mascot because nobody knows who that is
and they can't walk in as a rocket.

461
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.839
Things like that. We've all heard
that story of Loute not getting into

462
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.720
a somewhere because he didn't have a
right. It was like the yo.

463
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.279
It was like the Yello mean commercial
yo. No no, no, not

464
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:07.680
ye know loot exactly. I could
have seen Bill Frieder happening too, you

465
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.680
know, not so much, not
so much as the governor himself. So

466
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.640
great for you guys, I mean
things have worked out well. Two great

467
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:21.960
teams coming in Wyoming who travels well
Toledo will see and should be a competitive

468
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.720
game real quick. So you know, you guys had the announcement last week

469
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.920
that the game is also going to
be on the c W. You know,

470
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.000
we we we know that the broadcast. We know that, we know

471
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:37.759
that the streaming broadcast was a little
let's say different right then than you normally

472
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.000
see. Are they going to be
able to keep that be going on a

473
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.440
you know, on a broadcast channel
or how's that doing? I mean it's

474
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.279
it's a little bit of the old
school and the new school combined with what

475
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.519
have been saying. Uh, you
know you have you're certainly gonna have the

476
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.279
edge of barstool, but within the
guardrails of the SEC. Okay, so

477
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.200
I will let you figure out exactly
what that means, but yeah, we'll

478
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.079
have We're really excited to be on
the CW this year. You know it

479
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.480
was it's streaming sports is where the
world is going. We were a little

480
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.880
bit ahead of that. We still
had over a million views on the on

481
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.519
the broadcast last year. But being
in the CW, which is distributed in

482
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.279
one hundred percent of homes. I
mean, if you still have like the

483
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.240
Rabbit ears, you can get the
CW, you know, So being on

484
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.079
that game nation on that network nationwide, it's going to be really great for

485
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.160
us. It should be good,
should be good. Okay, thank you,

486
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.200
Eric, Thanks the whole bunch of
Eric appreciate it. Good luck.

487
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.400
I always appreciate it. You're on
the clock. You're on the clock.

488
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.839
You got a few weeks weeks like
countdown as well. You know what this

489
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.160
work? Well before you leave.
Uh, this is more of the game

490
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.000
because you have parties throughout the whole
week. Oh yeah, we do.

491
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.559
We have. We've renamed it our
Kashuanga Week, which you know, it's

492
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.960
like a party that's got the five
pm starting a question mark in. We

493
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.000
have you know, our pep rally
downtown. We have our Barrio pub troll

494
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.359
the day before the game. We
have our tailgate, which is free to

495
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.319
everyone to come to. Plenty of
food, beverage and so on. The

496
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.519
game itself, of course we want
you at. And then the Taco Bell

497
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:12.239
New Year's Eve Downtown Bulbash, where
we were calling it the Taco touchdown now

498
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.559
that you know tie in football,
because you've got to do a lot of

499
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.519
alliteration. So the Taco touchdown where
the taco drops from the crane and while

500
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.800
have fireworks at midnight. Warrant,
we're all the three of us are old

501
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.960
enough to remember Warrant and she's my
cherry Pie. They're headlining our New Year's

502
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.599
Eve band, So they'll be out
there again. Uh. You know,

503
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.039
if you want to see a bunch
of guys our age rocking it out,

504
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:32.880
they're going to be there. That's
gonna be a lot of fun. I

505
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.920
told Kim last week, I'm going
to start growing my mullets, so maybe

506
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.639
i'll get it by that time.
Let's not pretend you haven't tried that lately.

507
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:47.679
I mean that looks upeared exactly.
There's not much left under the hat

508
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.480
up there. It's kind by one
of those are we talking hair or you

509
00:34:52.559 --> 00:35:00.360
know, brain? Thank you appreciate, Eric, Thanks about good luck if

510
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.280
you had a mullet, oh he
was, we're talking. We're talking like

511
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:09.280
like my body moment. Yeah,
curls from the girls, baby, yeahl

512
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.960
oh my gosh, that's fantastic.
I'd pay to see you. I haven't.

513
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.480
We'll find you a picture, man, fantastic. All right, let's

514
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.119
say take our last break. We'll
take your calls five to zero, four,

515
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one, six, seventy four,
forty. We got about maybe fifteen

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minutes after the break, solet's stick
around. Now. If you're an Arizona

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on the Ball. Hey, welcome back

570
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to Winning the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. Young Steve, He's

571
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Jay, You got boys, Sammy
with us, thirteen minutes left. You

572
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.760
want to call us? He looks
he looks like a little wound up about

573
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.400
some more NBA stuff tonight. I
mean he's like, well, there's so

574
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:59.360
many games. You look tight or
stressed or something. You been on the

575
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:04.840
NBA. Yeah, sometimes so tonight
I've got some first baskets bets out there,

576
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.280
next steps. No, No,
they're like they're like for a dollar

577
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.159
they're like a dollar. They're fun. So like you can bet on you

578
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:17.159
can parlay first baskets and so you
can have like Paul Bancaro to score the

579
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.000
first basket in the Magic Game to
Night and then parlayed with like Joel Embiid

580
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.199
and like those odds are pretty fun
and so all right, but you don't

581
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.000
been in a buck. You know, he's just doing for the juice,

582
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.880
just the juice, it is like, and so just give me the dollar.

583
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.840
No, Like I could have two
hundred and thirty seven dollars if Franz

584
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:44.199
Wagner, Joel Embiid and Jared Jackson
junior Franz Wagner okay and his brother exactly

585
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.000
Franz Wagner and his brother Moe.
They played for the Magic. The Magic

586
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.880
are one of the hottest teams in
the NBA. And you got those guys

587
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.360
and then you don't know, I
don't you know they are and you know,

588
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.480
look at the NBA the Gen League
roster and you say, oh,

589
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:00.800
yeah, that guy I've had the
G League ross was like some of those

590
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.880
guys just bouncing around. Like for
example, like Nico Mannon who played here

591
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.280
for he could very well be on
a G League roster and maybe even on

592
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:15.039
a two way contract with the team
he's balling in Italy where he's from.

593
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.079
His family's probably out there, and
like that's a that's something where like that

594
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.559
situation is so much better for him, Like he doesn't want to be going

595
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:29.440
to Waco wherever in North Dakota to
play some basketball game and in front of

596
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.400
nobody and make not as much money
when he can be playing in the top

597
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.639
top tier league in Italy and making
a lot more money. Yeah, I

598
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.760
think his team won the championship if
it was if it wasn't last year or

599
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.719
the year before that, and like
like that's good, like good for him.

600
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.199
If there was a guy, if
there was a guy I know that

601
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:52.559
that had his career screwed up and
maybe not to that extreme Inn's time,

602
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.400
it was him. And I'm saying
this all legitimately because he was that he

603
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.159
was that good. I agree,
But when Miller made him play slow and

604
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:07.639
thinking about you imagine him and Tom
That's what I was say. And Josh

605
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.119
Man, they would have been a
lot I mean, Josh Green was a

606
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.760
lottery pick, but Nico could have
been a first like a lottery pick would

607
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:20.840
have played he came here. Yeah
he did. He played himself out of

608
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.159
it, like yeah. So I
grew up playing basketball against him and against

609
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.639
Josh and like all those guys,
and so from like eighth grade we would

610
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.159
play and then he just kept getting
better and better. And then in high

611
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.519
school we were one of the only
teams that beat his team, and we

612
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.800
were like, oh, man,
like this is crazy. And then he

613
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.119
went on to u of A,
and all my friends, all the guys

614
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:42.960
I used to play with, were
like, man, yeah, he We're

615
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.000
gonna see him in the league in
a couple of years. He's gonna be

616
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.400
great. And then I came down
to u of A watched him, and

617
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.280
I went to almost every game his
freshman year and watched him just crumble under

618
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:59.119
shown system. It was night and
day from high school to club whatever into

619
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.280
now, and it's just like I
just felt bad for him because like,

620
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.119
that's not that's not the way he
and I totally understand, like the coach

621
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.920
has a system, he's gonna coach
the way he has in his mind.

622
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.960
But also here's the issue with that. No matter what Sean would tell him,

623
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.559
we're gonna let you run, he
never ran. It's like you know

624
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.599
I love you, I love you, I love you, and then you

625
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.280
get married, Well, well I
don't really love it. Yeah, oh

626
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.679
well I do love you, but
you're gonna have to do what I tell

627
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:30.079
you exactly. And to Jay's point
of if he was in Tommy's system,

628
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.079
think about it. Think about it
two years ago, the way Kerr used

629
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.960
to just run and get the ball
up, get shots up. Tommy was

630
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:43.679
all his goal atter wait without question, right, and imagine those two dudes

631
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.360
on this team or two years ago, three years ago, whatever it was.

632
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.440
Oh man, oh man, oh
man, is right. And then

633
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.440
it it took a fact, took
his toll, and he was never the

634
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.559
same player after that. Like I
would watch him in Warriors game, Warriors

635
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.719
games and when he'd go back and
forth between the G League and stuff,

636
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.039
skittish even in the summer league when
like anybody's shooting shots, he still kind

637
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:12.119
of had that like tentative nature that
he never ever had, and he would

638
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.239
I mean, he's doing he's doing
more than fine. But I would have

639
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.840
loved to see him in the league
and play under Tommy and stuff. But

640
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.199
that just goes to coaching in college
is so important for their their eighteen year

641
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.119
old kids. Yeah, they're still
well here's another one and nothing. I

642
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.800
want to beg on Sean. But
Barcelo Barcelo, Yeah you played it with

643
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.039
him against Barcelo, a guy who
had a lot of promise, a lot

644
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.639
of recruits tracing him. We came
here and the same thing happened. Him

645
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.039
goes to Boyu who plays freely and
he had a good career career. Yeah,

646
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.559
he was never as explosive whereas I
mean, maybe he hypes the wrong

647
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.800
word. But it was Barcelo and
Bagley, those two guys, and then

648
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.599
it was it was Nico, and
then now you have the Williams brothers.

649
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.119
Jalen Williams is in the league.
He went to high school in Phoenix at

650
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:07.480
Parry and then his younger brothers at
Colorado and then co A. Pete is

651
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.679
like the number one recruit in the
country down in Phoenix. So that there's

652
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.800
a well wave. DeAndrea DeAndre from
I mean lived in Phoenix for a while.

653
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.920
But I wish most more of those
guys would come come with Tommy.

654
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.039
But would DeAndre have have have benefited
from tom I don't know, like you

655
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.159
would have no, because he's he
was He's a back to the basket guy.

656
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.760
Right. Well, even though the
NBA is not a back to the

657
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.480
basket leave, I mean to recall
that he ran the court. He still

658
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.360
had the same little trot, you
know. But the way he say,

659
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.679
umar bellow, who's kind of a
bigger wait guy runs up and down the

660
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.360
floor. Well, the big men
here are different too. Yeah, I

661
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.639
know. To answer your question,
I couldn't tell you why or because he's

662
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.480
not that guy. He's back to
the basket guy. Yeah, yeah,

663
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.320
you would have love he would have
loved to have him. I feel like

664
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.639
I could have made him into that. Yeah, but he'd have to shoot.

665
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.400
It's like we yeah, yeah,
here's why I think if DA came

666
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.719
and played with with Tommy with a
lot of wait a minute, I mean

667
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.840
I think it's it's a lot of
guys especially I mean I've watched him because

668
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:22.280
you are older than him. I'm
older than DeAndre, so he yeah,

669
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.400
he's like twenty two, isn't like
that we're we're I think we're about the

670
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:29.000
same age. I'm sorry, right
around the same age, different, I

671
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.639
think, yeah, definitely, yeah, all of us put together. He's

672
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.639
made a little bit more money than
that. All right, Sorry, but

673
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.159
I think if he would have played
with Tommy with a lot more drible handoffs,

674
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.559
a lot more pick and rolls,
and he does like to run the

675
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:47.079
break. That's more NBA style per
se. When when it breaks down like

676
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.480
next time, like this Saturday,
when it breaks down, watch what Caleb

677
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.639
Love and he shot, they'll run
two man game. Where Kylon will run

678
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.960
two man game when there's the offense
breaks down or they're in a secondary break,

679
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.880
it's a lot of dribble handoffs and
hard rolls to the basket. Not

680
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.519
to say he didn't do a lot
of that under Sean or when he was

681
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.960
here, but the way Tommy coaches, that would have translated a lot better.

682
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.000
I think the motions of the towards
the NBA. Not saying that would

683
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.800
have changed his career, but it
would have given him more of a pro

684
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:27.480
style. So the thing about is
what he can't, what Tommy can't teach

685
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.880
is still what he lacks is in
between his head and the wheel of players.

686
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:36.760
Yeah, yeah, you could push
it. You could, but if

687
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.000
you don't do it, guess what
Bonna would be coming up the bench.

688
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:45.079
And yeah, and I never knew
like how Sean coached his players in terms

689
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.840
of the mental side of the game
of that was the problem. Yeah,

690
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.800
it was obvious with with Sean,
how about how he did that? How

691
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.320
was it like, how did he
do it? How did he do it?

692
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.360
It was it was do it my
way or else. I mean guards,

693
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.880
the guards every time, and Jay
had his witnesses. Everything. Every

694
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.519
chance he looked up was dribble.
Dribble dribble looked to Sean set up to

695
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:13.280
play and run the offense. You
don't see that now. They just go.

696
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:19.199
They just go. So that's why
maybe maybe d A Deandre's mindset would

697
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.920
have been a little bit different because
I think at u of A you kind

698
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.440
of saw him. He was so
dominant where he didn't need to think sometimes

699
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.280
but when it push come to shove, even at u of An and the

700
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.599
NBA, he thinks too much.
On the floor. Tommy would have helped

701
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:36.599
him just be like, dude,
just go play basketball. Yeah, and

702
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.239
that's have to battle exactly. I
mean that's what we see. Yeah,

703
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.920
just just guys just go play.
Get over it. Just they're comfortable going

704
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.119
doing what they do. You know, they know what, they know what

705
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.559
not to do, and they're not
concerned about it. If they make a

706
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:53.480
mistake. I'm getting pulled. Yeah, we got a collar. Hi are

707
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.800
on the aar and on the ball. Hi, it's James, James.

708
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.199
What's up? Not much this heer
and you guys talk about Miller and Tommy,

709
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.119
Well zero, James, you know
what side of the isle? James?

710
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.920
What do you got to? And
I think Miller's style of coaching was

711
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.320
just scream at the players and barked
the whole game. Yeah well yeah,

712
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.000
yeah, I mean we saw that
and the rest. Yeah, but no

713
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.320
we well he again, it was
it was Steve, as Steve said,

714
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.679
it was his way or the highway
kind of thing. We wait had to

715
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.880
be to his credit and his year
off and a you're away from the game,

716
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:36.639
he's re retold his his game as
a coach. Yeah, we were

717
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.760
go ahead with the with Miller.
I agree he kind of eased his own

718
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.880
system and recruit the best players and
try to fit him into the system,

719
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.719
unlike Lude, who would just recruit
the best players and then change his system

720
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:52.000
based on who his best players were
that year. And we're really seeing that

721
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.159
with Tommy this year. Right.
He realized, you know, you know

722
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.760
what was kind of what was missing, right, and try to fill those

723
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.199
gaps, and for now, it
looks like whatever gaps we thought he had,

724
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.880
you know, he's filled. I
mean, there's a lot more basketball

725
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.159
left to play. But the things
that we we said needed fixing, it

726
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.360
seems like he's working on fixing.
Though. So let me ask you,

727
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.280
James, because I'm sure you've seen
some Arizona basketball to this point, I'll

728
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.039
ask all of you, what if
Arizona is flawed, if there are flawed,

729
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.960
where's their flaw this year? Yeah? Yeah, go James? Coaching

730
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.639
coaching. Well, I'm just saying
if we if we're just looking at March,

731
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.840
oh no, no, sure,
Well well okay, okay, but

732
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.360
but when you when you when you
think back to what happened in March and

733
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.440
then what you're seeing so far this
year, you know what what still needs

734
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.639
to be fixed in your mind?
You know, just adving that great entight

735
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.920
games against tough opponents who played good
defense, and you know, just just

736
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.719
sticking to your it's to your heart
and playing the hardest you can. You

737
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.760
know. I don't have anything specific, though. Yeah, it's hard,

738
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.480
it's hard to pick something up,
and I think this team is totally different

739
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.840
than last year's. It's a way
so we'll we'll see how it goes away.

740
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.239
I definitely agree. Did you guys
see that a huge win by another

741
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:14.960
great coach in America? Which give
the suspense? Yeah it was Damon Stott.

742
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:21.320
Yeah. Yeah. The problem with
that is he lost to a smaller,

743
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.239
small school right out of the box. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully

744
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.800
it goes well for Damon over They're
interesting that one one Arizona guy followed another

745
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:30.519
one over there. Very cool,
All right, James appreciated, we got

746
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.400
a run. Thanks a bunch your
guys. Listening to James always it hit

747
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.400
me the other I said, wait
a minute, Josh Pastor gets fired and

748
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:45.800
and here comes two totally different styles
to completely flawed anything from you. I

749
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:51.840
don't have anything. We won't know. There's you know, these next few

750
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.360
games are gonna tell us right and
just before we go, I want to

751
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.719
say one thing. If Arizona fan, and I think I said this on

752
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.440
Arizona fan thinks that they're gonna feel
a whole lot better about twenty fourteen and

753
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.159
with the twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen
that they lost to Wisconsin. If farison

754
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.559
A beat Swiss Bow, yeah they
won't get that out of your mind.

755
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.559
Okay, that's not gonna feel any
better if they beat them this time around,

756
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.280
right, No, this is just
a pimple on the butt. Yeah.

757
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:20.079
I think if I had to see
one thing that if you of A

758
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.719
does this well, then I think
they can win national championship, and that's

759
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:30.079
shoot the three well. Because la
Kylin and Caleb are all capable shooters.

760
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:35.000
It's a matter of if they can
be consistent enough long term to hit those

761
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.599
shots. Then if that's the case, I think they are one of the

762
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:39.000
best team. You remember, there's
all the good teams out there there are,

763
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.239
and hey, same thing basketball comes
down to. If you make the

764
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.559
most shots, you win most of
your luck. Be good and healthy.

765
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.159
In addition to all right, let's
hit the road. Okay, well,

766
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.119
we'll be back tomorrow, Glenn Parker
and Doug Faff. We're going back to

767
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:57.480
the Oklahoma game nineteen eighty nine,
one of the big wins far Zone ever.

768
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:07.280
So see you tomorrow. Happy high
a day, every every smile,

769
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:22.519
happy day. Who even waiting?
Are here for the smile? When the

770
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.039
snow is besting on the trees outside
of all the