WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:06.639 Hello everyone, Thank you guys for joining us. It is another episode of 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.679 the flat Earth Files. We appreciate welcome and back all the truth seekers around 3 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:14.720 the world. Another edition of the flat Earth Files. And if you're wondering 4 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:19.879 why there's no musical introduction, as we always do, we have had some 5 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.839 pretty horrific weather over the last couple of days, lots of power surges and 6 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:27.280 things of that nature, so we have a couple of studio glitches, but 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.759 as always we adapt, we overcome, and we have several backup systems available 8 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.039 to us, so we are on one of the backup systems tonight. But 9 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.759 the audio quality shouldn't really make a difference. I just don't have any music 10 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.679 cute. 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Stop in the chat room, say 20 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:23.680 hello and leave some of your questions and comments in the forum. That way 21 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.760 you get a lot of people to opine on your thoughts. There you go, 22 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:33.159 it is the flat Earth Files dot com. Let's get to our guest 23 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:38.519 without any further ADO, joining us tonight is Nicholas and he has the YouTube 24 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:44.079 channel Awakening Truth, and I will have that linked in the show descriptions so 25 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:48.359 you can check that out. Make sure you subscribe and click on that bell 26 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.439 so anytime he drops an episode, you'll be notified. His email addresses Nicholas 27 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.799 Quinn fifty two eighty at yahoo dot com. And don't worry about writing that 28 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.640 down. I'll have that in the show description as well. We talked a 29 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:07.040 bit offline before we even hit the record button. Nicholas is going to blow 30 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:08.479 your mind tonight. We have a lot to talk about. So without any 31 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.360 further ADO, let's bring them aboard. Good evening, Nicolas. How are 32 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.240 you doing, my friend. I'm doing fine. It's great to meet you. 33 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.319 It's great to finally, you know, talk to you. I've listened 34 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:21.479 to your voice for you know, over the two months, and it's just 35 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.039 it's amazing to talk to you now. And it's just, man, the 36 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:29.240 conversation we had before we started recording, it just was a good conversation. 37 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:32.039 Nonetheless to say, yeah, it's great, and I'll be up all night 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:38.280 now going down these rabbitals. But that's that's what motivates me and excites me, 39 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.000 and I think that the listeners are really going to be blown away as 40 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.960 well. So why don't you go ahead before we jump into those rabbit holes. 41 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.520 Please go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All right. My 42 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:53.159 name is Nicholas Quinn. I grew up in the Denver, Colorado metro area 43 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.680 of Colorado. Um you know. I grew up normal, had a normal 44 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.520 life, had a couple of experiences with God saved me at four years old. 45 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:05.759 God saved me at sixteen years old when I was hit by a car. 46 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:07.840 I was attacked by a dog when I was four. I should be 47 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:15.039 dead twice. I had several stitches when I was four and the dog, 48 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.039 it was abused dog. But anyhow, I was riding my bike across the 49 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.879 street on Potomac and Sixth Avenue and I got hit by a VW bug my 50 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:28.719 fault. I got a ticket, but again I woke up crying in the 51 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.960 hospital. Didn't know why I was crying, and an officer was there to 52 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.560 write me a ticket, and he said he asked me as soon as I 53 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.400 he asked, why are you crying? And I stopped right away. I 54 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.759 had no idea why I was crying, So neither here nor there. But 55 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:49.000 I grew up in Denver, like I said, semi normal life. Graduated 56 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:55.439 from Aurora Central in two thousand. Then I moved to Colorado Springs and during 57 00:03:55.639 --> 00:04:00.400 you know, nine to eleven, I was in Colorado Springs. My aunt 58 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.479 was a jokester. She would joke around all the time. Me and my 59 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:06.400 cousin were out partying. The night before, we were sleeping. She comes 60 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.240 and knock wakes us up and says, hey, America's under attack. We're 61 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.879 being attacked in New York. I'm like, yeah, whatever, So she 62 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:16.720 wakes us up. We go and we watched the second so called plane hit 63 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.839 the building and we watched that for hours. And then, like I said, 64 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:27.000 I was in Colorado Springs that has no rad Peterson Air Force Base, 65 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:31.759 Fort Falcon, and the Air Force Academy all within thirty minutes where I was 66 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.079 living. And it was the most peaceful day I'd ever seen in my life. 67 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:40.560 No base was mobilizing, I didn't see any planes anywhere, didn't see 68 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.480 anything happening on any of the bases. And again, it was just the 69 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.920 most calmest peaceful day I've ever had. After you know, nine to eleven 70 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:55.480 happened, So then that goes along. Around two thousand and five, Loose 71 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.680 Change came into my life and it kind of woke me up a little bit. 72 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.120 But Loose Changes that you know, I don't know if you've heard that 73 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:08.600 uh movie yet either, but it kind of woke me up, but it 74 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:13.360 also left you know, it left a couple of holes in the in the 75 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.759 story. But I mean it woke me up to Larry Silverstein being you know, 76 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:23.560 evil and our country did it are two ourselves? And then um, 77 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:29.399 life goes on, right I got involved with ze Geist. That one kind 78 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.000 of like you know, took me off on another tangent rabbit hole or whatever. 79 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:38.560 And then again, uh, life goes on, and something happened and 80 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.879 I had a little bad you know, issues with my life. So I 81 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:48.360 was a little depressed around twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen is when flat earth really 82 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.879 hit me. It was Richie from Boston. I don't know if you know 83 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:57.839 that. Yeah, okay, So Richie from Boston was talking about ken trails 84 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.920 and this, that and the other and that, and I started watching him 85 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.160 like religiously, chem trails, this, chemtrails out and I started noticing all 86 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:09.920 these chem trails. Well it was July no, no, sorry, June 87 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.199 ninth. There was a full moon twenty seventeen. I was driving home and 88 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.600 I was going down Dayton or eleventh to Dayton, and it was the moon. 89 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:21.639 It was literally right above the tree line and it was so huge and 90 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.519 I didn't know why I never noticed it before, but it was so huge, 91 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.120 like it was like trying to grab me. It felt like, you 92 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.480 know. So I was just like it blew my mind. I had no 93 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:34.439 idea. I was like, wow, that's kind of weird. You know. 94 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.439 It just seems like it's right there, two hundred and thirty seven thousand 95 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.279 miles away, but it's right there, you know. So a friend of 96 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.120 mine comes home from Hawaii and he talks about his cousin, you know, 97 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:53.000 in the Mandela effect and how JFK switched from a four person car to a 98 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.600 six person car. That tripped me out. I started going down that rabbit 99 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:01.680 hole. And then one day I was listening to Richie from Boston and he 100 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:05.600 said the Earth was flat and I was like, what, like, no, 101 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.920 can't be flat, man. We landed on the moon, right. 102 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:15.720 So that took me off into Oddan and then David weiss or not David weiss 103 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.480 Um, who else odd Eric Dubay, And it took me off onto I 104 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:24.079 don't know if you've ever heard of Nathan Roberts. Yes, he was okay, 105 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.199 flatter doctor had his book in my hand right now, the Doction of 106 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.720 the Shape of the Earth. Okay, good? He he and I became 107 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.839 really really close. Really. If it wasn't for him, I would have 108 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:38.480 given up on the Bible. He did a show specifically calling me saying, 109 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.720 hey, don't give up on the Bible. You're you're on the right track. 110 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.439 And if it wasn't for him, the Hebrew Roots movement would have pushed 111 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:53.800 me again away from the Bible. So it was twenty It was September twenty 112 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.839 seventeen when it hit me a flat Earth, and I couldn't consume anything. 113 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.560 I had no idea what to do. I was just like I got rid 114 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.839 of Netflix, I got rid of Hulu, I got rid of all that 115 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.040 and just focused on Odd and Odd had a twenty four hour show or was 116 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.920 showing all this flat earth stuff. So I was consuming that twenty four seven. 117 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:18.319 I couldn't get enough. Yeah, that's I think, that's you know. 118 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.160 I was the same way for two weeks. I consumed it from the 119 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.959 time I woke up until the time I went to sleep. And there were 120 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.920 times when those kind of never even happened. I would wake up and I 121 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:33.840 would be up for twenty four to thirty six hours, just because you know, 122 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.960 I know, I've explained it several times, but I think I finally 123 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:46.200 realized if they would lie about this, then everything is a lie. And 124 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.159 and I guess when if you would have said, you know, before we 125 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.360 started recording. I don't want to say it yet because I wanted to come 126 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.759 naturally into the conversation because it kind of blew my mind. And it's funny 127 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.759 because I had come across a few things in the last couple of days that 128 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.720 kind of go along that line. But two years ago or no, I've 129 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:05.159 been more than that, say five years ago. If you would have mentioned 130 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.639 that to me, I would probably rolled my eyes and said sure. But 131 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.919 after flat Earth, I always, UM, take everything all right, I'm 132 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.120 going to go research at first, and actually a Nathan's book. In the 133 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:24.559 very first chapter he talks about uh, there's a Bible verse that talks about 134 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:31.159 specifically, UM, you know, talking about people who don't you know, 135 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.519 research things. You know, Man, I wish yes, thank you. 136 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.039 He who answers in a book in a matter before he hears it, it's 137 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.519 a folly shame unto him. You're absolutely right. That's one of my favorite 138 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.440 verses. Yep. And I when when I read, I just got this 139 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.279 in them. That is so weird how this happens. I had Steve Steve 140 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.240 on the podcast the other night which drops tonight as we're recording. Um, 141 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.759 he's the one who mentioned this book to me, and it came in the 142 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.639 mail today and I, you know, I told you about tech problems. 143 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.879 I'm in the office working on things, but I am just cruising through this 144 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.600 book. Is Nathan still in Georgia? I believe so? Um, I 145 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.080 know he seeing this is really weird when I want to continue on my story. 146 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.519 Uh, he kind of he kind of pushed himself away from the community 147 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.799 and he's been silent for a quite some time now. But yeah, Brial, 148 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.320 I think he's still in Georgia. Yeah, because he he actually met 149 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.720 Brian Mullen and I asked him straight up, is Brian Mullen the real deal? 150 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:33.559 And he was like, yeah, Brian Mullen is the absolute real deal. 151 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.120 When you say districts himself from the community, are you talking about the 152 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.279 flat earth community? The flat Earth community. He's he's been quiet on all 153 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.320 social media's. I hope he's okay. Um, he he went down a 154 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.200 different road and he was starting to go down like the Blacks Law, and 155 00:10:54.240 --> 00:11:00.679 he didn't want to start painting. He just wanted to be a non citizen. 156 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:01.759 But he wanted to be a citizen. And if that makes sense, 157 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.679 yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay, So he doesn't 158 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.759 want to have a driver's license, he doesn't want to pay car insurance because 159 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.799 he just we don't. We don't have to. We don't have to pay 160 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.279 taxes. It's illegal for us to pay taxes. But again, we're comfortable 161 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.759 and we don't want to fight that, you know what I mean? Right, 162 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.200 That's interesting because I mean he was so passionate about it, he wrote 163 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.440 a book, I mean to teach his own I'm not judging um, but 164 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.320 you know, maybe he found another passion. His book has been I'm you 165 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.480 know, already a third of the way through. It's a tremendous book. 166 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.960 And obviously he's he's super smart on the Bible. Oh yeah, he's super 167 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.759 smart. He's got another book and I bought it too. It's what is 168 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:46.279 it called? It's it's about the law. You look it up on Amazon. 169 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.080 He has another book, and I forget. I know I have it 170 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.519 here somewhere. I've got so many like literature of I've got thirteen flat Earth 171 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.519 books. You know, I'm the same way, and I buy the books. 172 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.200 I don't my wife does the kindle thing. But I purchased the books 173 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.360 because I know it's only a matter of time before there's a you know, 174 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:09.159 like a digital book burning. Right, So, okay, flat Earth hits 175 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.480 me, I consume it. By January twenty eighteen, I'm a full on 176 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.639 flat Earth and I'm trying to talk to everybody and anybody that wanted the time 177 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.360 I get laughs, I get oh, you're an idiot, You're you're smoking 178 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.080 too many drugs, and then it comes like, yeah, I don't think 179 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:31.600 so anyway. So twenty eighteen goes by, twenty nineteen comes around and Dean 180 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.559 Ogel, I've heard you mentioned him. I'm actually baptized by him. I've 181 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:41.039 met him. Great dude. I don't really agree with him on his political 182 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.799 views. I truly believe Trump is is one of them, let's put it 183 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:50.879 that way. And he believes Trump is you know, for us, and 184 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.840 that's whatever. So twenty nineteen comes around and my co host that I do 185 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.399 the show with I met him Skyfall twenty ninetine and um opa like Alabama, 186 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:07.080 Auburn. We're in Auburn, Alabama. We have a three day conference there. 187 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:11.879 This is where I get closer to Nathan Roberts. We talk, we 188 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.960 get closer. At the end of that, um I get baptized by him. 189 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.600 H Dean oldl And again he's a great guy, great pastor. But 190 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.639 I don't believe in the pastoral role. I just I don't believe that we 191 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.399 need to listen to one guy at a pulpit. I believe we should have 192 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:31.360 like a round table and talk, you know, amongst ourselves about the Bible, 193 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.679 and come to an understanding that we're not going to know everything and nobody 194 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.360 should be above us, you know, standing on a pulpit saying I'm ordained. 195 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:48.960 I went to school. Was Jesus your pastor or your teacher? Was 196 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.600 he your professor? You know? Um? So again, okay, So 197 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.240 we go there a great conference. I literally sit next to Dean Odo the 198 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:05.039 entire conference, and so he does this thing. I met a guy was 199 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:13.240 Brian Reid. He was a military man. He worked at West Point for 200 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.080 years. He didn't really say he was a flat earther, but the way 201 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.200 he talked about it, he kind of gave me the answers I wanted to 202 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.080 hear. But he was straight up military guy. I don't know if he 203 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:30.519 could be Dean's maybe handler, I don't know. He's wearing a shirt saying 204 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.639 Dean Odle for governor. He's sitting behind Trump and one of the pictures I'll 205 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.960 have to send that to you too. And again I'm not badmouthing anybody. 206 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.080 I just I don't know who we should honestly trust here in these crazy days 207 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.799 that we're in. So you know, I buy all these flat earth books. 208 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:52.600 I start consuming, this other stuff comes into my life. Like there's 209 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.320 a book called the Vaccine Watchman. I don't know if you've ever heard of 210 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.279 that, but this was in the eighteen hundreds in Europe and many many men 211 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.480 were getting this experimental vaccine and had to get their arm amputated because of all 212 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.960 this you know, vaccine, whatever it is, And this was in the 213 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.279 eighteen hundreds. I'll send you the I'll send you the PDF. It's a 214 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.679 like a twenty eight page document. Yeah, it's interesting. This is another 215 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.799 one of those books that were written in the eighteen eighties, very much like 216 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:30.360 the one mister Carpenter wrote about flat Earth, right right exactly. WD Stokes. 217 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:37.039 Yes, yes, So again all this stuff comes into my life now. 218 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:41.559 But one thing that I never really believed in the Bible. So I 219 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.080 couldn't really understand the Bible because the very first page of the Bible says a 220 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.399 dome, water above, water below. Well, NASA says, they landed 221 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.799 on the moon, So where's the water? You know, where's this firmament 222 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.480 they talk about? You know? So I literally ran from the Bible my 223 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:04.480 entire until flat Earth. And then again if it wasn't for Nathan Roberts, 224 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:11.360 I would still probably be running from the Bible because again I don't know who 225 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.799 to trust, because Eric Dubay does such a great job for Flat Earth. 226 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.919 But then he has a video saying Jesus Christ never existed, you know, 227 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.759 an hour long video, and it's just like, man, bro, you 228 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.799 were so on point, but now you don't believe in Jesus, you don't 229 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:32.200 believe in the Bible. Okay, fine, that's fine. I'm gonna stick 230 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:37.240 with my side and I'm going to continue on my biblical journey. Yeah. 231 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:42.840 And he also did a video questioning the firmament as well, right right, 232 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:47.320 I heard you talk about how he questioned the firmament and everything. But anyway, 233 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.519 so I'm going down this rabbit holes of here here, here, here, 234 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.919 and I meet a girl. Her name is Tammy from North Carolina, 235 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:00.600 and she came across some knowledge about how the name gives. In the old 236 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.960 people used to spit on the seeds of fruit and vegetables and whatever, and 237 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.160 they would let it, you know, root up and then planet and then 238 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.880 water it normally. And this is another reason why I believe there's a good 239 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:18.480 creator. Apparently, if you were to grow these vegetables with your DNA, 240 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.039 you know, just to you know, root up heart and water it. 241 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:26.960 Normally that fruit or vegetable grow to what your body needs. So I've got 242 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.839 three confirmations, three women that have done this. Tammy says it was the 243 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:36.880 best beat salad she'd ever had in her life. Another lady I work with 244 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.519 said is the best fruit she's ever had. Another lady she's quitting, but 245 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.799 she doesn't like tomatoes, but she spit on the seed of these tomatoes grew 246 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:51.480 them, and she said that the tomatoes were just absolutely delicious. And it 247 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.839 just, you know, warms my heart that we should be being taught this 248 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.920 because if that is the truth, then there is a great creator, a 249 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.799 great God, and he's told us how to grow vegetables to what we need 250 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:12.000 in our body would be perfectly fine. So it's just amazing. If I 251 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:17.079 end mute myself while you were talking, I went to Google, and for 252 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:21.079 these type of experiments I always use, I intentionally use Google, and I 253 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:26.119 put that in the search engine and two of the very first three hits were 254 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.359 from fact checkers who said that was false. So that's all the information you 255 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.200 need to know that it's true. Right, And again, I've got three 256 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:41.680 confirmations of people I know personally know that these vegetables and fruits it melted in 257 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:47.319 their mouth like ice cream. They said it just tasted so amazing. It 258 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.880 reminds me of that scene of Avatar when he goes and bites the fruit, 259 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.279 you know, when he's in his Avatar state, and he's just like m's 260 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:57.400 water his mouth is watering because it just tastes so good, you know what 261 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:04.839 I mean. Oh, that's right, that's so interesting. That is another 262 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.599 rabbit hole. I'm gonna have to go down by the way going before I 263 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.559 forget, before we get too far ahead. I think. The other book 264 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.799 that Nathan wrote was entitled if this is correct, Treaties of Artificial Persons Versus 265 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.960 Private living, breathing Souls. Yes, yes, that's him, and another 266 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:26.160 again another great compilation of his studies. The dude is just he's a couple 267 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.920 of years younger than me. I'm forty one. And like I said, 268 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.720 him and I became very very close, and he would tell me stuff this 269 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.079 and personal stuff, and I'll never tell anybody, but just the way like 270 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:47.960 he went about this restarch. He was so good. He was so good. 271 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.200 At it, and when he came to the Bible, it just it 272 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.039 blew my mind. And on how he and God, basically God, you 273 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.039 know, put it on his heart and he said he was because I emailed 274 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.480 him. I was like, sorry, I know the earth is flat, 275 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.000 but the Bible's not for me because the Hebrew roots were saying some stuff, 276 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.119 you know, all I'm not gonna say it here, but some of us 277 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.039 are not meant for heaven. And I was just like, wow, they're 278 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:15.799 reading from the Bible. I never read the Bible, so what if they're 279 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.680 right? And again, Nathan spent like forty five minutes doing an episode on 280 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:26.240 his Flatter Doctrine channel just for me. And it was just after meeting him, 281 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.480 I knew he was the real deal as well. I'll have to reach 282 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:32.759 out to him and see if we can bring him on. I'd love to 283 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:34.319 hear from it. Because this book, again, I'm only you know, 284 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.920 maybe twenty five percent of the way through. It's tremendous. And see, 285 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:44.200 that's another reason why I believe in divine being or God. I bought Nathan's 286 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:48.279 book, and then a friend of mine I met through Flat Earth wanted his 287 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.720 book too, So I just went and bought it for him, and it 288 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:55.880 was only twenty bucks. Well, the very next day I found twenty bucks 289 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.759 on the ground. I was like, all right, cool, right, 290 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.279 and I just put it in my pod and went about my day, you 291 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.839 know. So it was divine chance that I just found twenty bucks. It 292 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.720 was great, it was amazing, and it was actually an Amazon Kindall bestseller. 293 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:12.799 He's got well over three hundred reviews on his book. It did well. 294 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:19.240 Yeah, it's very well put together, very very well put together. 295 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.960 I like the kid. He's amazing. If you ever get him on he's 296 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:29.559 just he's a very humble person and he's just like I said, he met 297 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:34.160 Brian Mullen and he's just Brian Mullen's the real deal. And apparently, you 298 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:38.640 know, Brian Mullen went and hit or he went and shut up because somebody 299 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:44.680 probably scared him. I don't know. I don't know. Interesting, Well, 300 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:47.839 we'll do again. I'll definitely try to reach out to him and see 301 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:51.400 if we can. That would be a great chat. Um. Yeah, 302 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:56.480 Richie from Boston, that's another one. I I don't know what if you 303 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.240 know, I'm imagining he like many others, are off of YouTube. But 304 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:04.000 is he still doing this thing. So he's um jail Break over Lander is 305 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:08.839 his new YouTube channel, and now he's just driving around America doing some things. 306 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.119 I've heard him do a couple of podcasts here and there, but he 307 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:18.079 again, he doesn't dabble in conspiracy theories anymore. And it just it breaks 308 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.039 my heart because he was very prominent on getting me to where I am. 309 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.720 So what is he doing though? He just sucks, Like I said, 310 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.839 I don't know. If you watch his show, he's just he's like four 311 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:37.400 wheeling and driving his stuff. Yeah, yeah, he's doing like, you 312 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.839 know, videos about driving and tell you right, Colorado some summits. He 313 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:47.599 doesn't Colorado. He likes to go to Moab a lot. He drives. 314 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.400 I don't know what he drives. It might be a fore runner, I 315 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:55.640 don't know. But he doesn't dabble in conspiracies that much anymore. Yeah, 316 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.599 it doesn't look like that. That's interesting. I mean, we all evolve 317 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:02.759 in follow rowan passion. He did a lot for the truth community, so 318 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.279 you know, more power tone. Okay, and then again, oh let 319 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.160 me tell you this. Okay, Before I went to Super Bowl forty eight, 320 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.720 I went to Super Bowl fifty all chances. I don't know how that 321 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:22.400 happened. Super Bowl forty eight was the Bronchos and Stea Hawks. They fly 322 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.240 the Tomahawk and the Chinook's over and you get your you get all pumped up, 323 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.640 you get all riled up, you just get into emotions. Yep. 324 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:36.240 The moment, and I mean the literal moment of the safety on Super Bowl 325 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.200 forty eight, I felt an energy drained from me. I just felt it 326 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.599 just drained from my body. I knew at that moment when I say we 327 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.960 again, I was into sports. And that's the other thing. Was the 328 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.319 first show that got me on you guys was a guy that you had from 329 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.839 Wyoming, and he said he was a big Broncho fan, but once he 330 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.039 got into Flat Earth, all the sports love just left him. Same here, 331 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:03.960 it just left me. So at that moment the safety, when Peyton 332 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.119 Manning did it, I knew at that moment we were the Broncos were going 333 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:12.960 to lose that Super Bowl. So it just and I didn't really understand it, 334 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:19.400 but now I understand that that evilness of these sports and and entertainment just 335 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:25.759 drained you of your energy. And I just felt so low. I felt 336 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.160 so like down on myself, even though I was just somebody in the audience, 337 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:34.799 you know. Yeah, and uh, if the Eagles obviously lost that 338 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.680 one, I'm sorry. Go ahead back in the day, like twenty years 339 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:44.359 ago, if the Eagles lost, I'd be from Sunday night until Wednesday. 340 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.359 I would just be miserable, like I was actually part of the team. 341 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.480 And looking background it, I just laughed now. And it's funny too, 342 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:52.960 because when you when we were into sports, you'd always say, oh, 343 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.359 we won, like I was a part of the team, Like I made 344 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.599 a touchdown. Like when they lost, they lost, they didn't. That 345 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.880 wasn't me, you know. So and then okay, two day, two 346 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.079 years later, right before I start getting into my conspiracy journey, I go 347 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:14.359 to Super Bowl fifty. Obviously the Broncos win that one, and again I 348 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.559 was like, at the happiest moment, I'm on Facebook, I'm getting so 349 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.599 many likes while you're there. Oh my god, that's great, you know, 350 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.359 and it's just like, yeah, I know. And then obviously again 351 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:30.720 that's a Satanic ritual. And in its own what was that the one with 352 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.960 Peyton Manning where you finally get where he won it for Denver? Yeah, 353 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.640 and it's the only super Bowl that has the numbers. Every other super Bowl 354 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.720 has the Roman numerals. Super Bowl fifty has five and zero. And it 355 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.799 was a golden ticket. That's right, go go figure like Willy Wonka. 356 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:57.200 So and uh again, socially, that was the best, the greatest time 357 00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:03.400 in my life, socially right. So I come home whatever, We went 358 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:08.480 to Super Bowl hippity dippity, and I start getting into my journey. Around 359 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:11.680 twenty eighteen is when I, you know, really got into flat Earth. 360 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.960 And flat Earth was taking me off of here, taking me off of here, 361 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:22.319 and it showed me sports. Sports are rigged. Every single sports is 362 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:30.119 rigged. The basketball it's lined with magnets and the rim is magnetic. I'll 363 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:36.200 send you this video too. What's really really gets me is the fact that 364 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:41.599 Michael Jordan's right, Michael Jordan's supposed to be the best basketball player to ever 365 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.799 play the game. Well, he's six six with six championships, right. 366 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:52.559 He hit the most famous shot on his sixth game of his six championship with 367 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.680 six point six seconds left on the clock. And there's an actual picture of 368 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:03.359 that. And if I remember correctly, Kobe Bryant got his Eddie one points 369 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.480 on his six hundred and sixty six game. Correct, that is correct, 370 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.599 and he was the black mom but the snake, right, that's right. 371 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.319 I'll send I'll send you this video and this guy proves it. There's magnets 372 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.799 in the ball. That's why I don't believe when the Nuggets won. I 373 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:26.440 don't really honestly believe they won, you know, without help. Oh, 374 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.519 that's right, they won this year, right right? And that Um, 375 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.559 this video is going to blow your mind too. Again. Um, you 376 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.720 can actually control a golf ball like a remote control car. Yeah, I 377 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:45.079 see Tiger puts that seemed questionable to me, right exactly Again, it's gonna 378 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.119 blow your mind. So and then let me get off onto this one. 379 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.920 Um. Oh just recently, I'll send you this video too. I visited 380 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.000 Jekyll Island back in March. Really, and I've got I've got a flat 381 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.359 earth video from Jekyll Island. And it's a great place to go, don't 382 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.680 get me wrong. It's very beautiful, very richie up at eat type, 383 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.400 you know. But yes, I'm gonna send you that video. It's my 384 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.920 camera, my P one thousand. I zoom in on a boat that we 385 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.640 can't see, but my camera can see it. Incredible. Okay, so 386 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:25.400 what this thing is just gonna blow everybody's mind hopefully, so I get into 387 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.279 flat Earth and I can't, like, like you said, I can't absorb 388 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.480 enough. I'm getting all this flat earth from Eric Dubay, Odd Richie from 389 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:40.400 Boston cam trails, this, that, and then somehow well Aware one comes 390 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:45.119 into my life well Aware one number one dot com. And this is where 391 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.440 it blows my mind. Because he's a guy who said he worked for like 392 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:56.039 the FBI or the CIA doing ear biometrics, and ear biometrics is like fingerprints 393 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:03.599 for the ears. And he put together compilation video of where he truly believes 394 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:11.039 that Walt Disney and Hitler are the same person. And when you look it 395 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:17.640 up and you look at their faces, even Ava Braun and Lillian Disney look 396 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:25.640 like they're similar for people, that blows my mind. There's what a ten 397 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.960 year difference between Walt Disney and Nadolf Hitler. I think it was born in 398 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.400 eighty nine and Walt Disney was born right around nineteen hundred or so, right 399 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.640 right, so they could have pulled this off. And again I can't prove 400 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:42.079 none of this, but the way this guy puts together this compilation video. 401 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:52.440 Even Roy Disney looks like one of Hitler's top officers, Joseph Gobella. I 402 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.440 think he looks exactly like Roy Disney. And he goes off on this tangent 403 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:04.279 where Theodore Roosevelt he's doing all this, He's controlling all of this, where 404 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:12.279 his son Kermit Roosevelt, right, Kermit Roosevelt as apparently Father Coglin, Walt, 405 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:18.400 Disney, and Hitler, they're all the same in one. And this 406 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:26.279 is where it really gets really crazy that he believes that President Taft is Roosevelt's 407 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:34.799 brother and President Taft also was JP Morgan. And once you look at this 408 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:40.759 guy's website, it's just again I'm not saying that this is true or anything, 409 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.880 but once you look at it, you're just like, Wow, this 410 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.960 guy might be onto something. Well. Something that always raised my eyebrows is 411 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:55.000 the Disney family comes from Chicago, and there's something about Chicago. Many of 412 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.359 the episodes I've done on the Fact Hunner over the years, these people come 413 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:06.519 from many of the thirteen bloodlines have roots in Chicago. Now Roy was the 414 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:11.200 older brother of Walk correct I believe, So I'll have to do some more 415 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.759 digging, but you could be right, and I know they were all out 416 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:22.200 of Chicago. And yeah, the Disneys. That is really interesting because obviously 417 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.519 there's a tie in with Warner von Braun. And we were talking about I 418 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.759 think before. Didn't you mentioned Warner von Braun before we were before we got 419 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.119 started. Yeah, yeah, because it makes sense that if Warner von Braun 420 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.599 was a Nazi scientist, he already knew Hitler, he already knew Disney, 421 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:47.119 if they were the same person, you know what I mean. And there's 422 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.000 a lot of you know, people out there who say, you know, 423 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.759 some people say, you know, the Nazis didn't lose the war, they 424 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.880 just moved to America. Some people say there was a which I kind of 425 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:06.319 lend credence to World War One ended with some people who kind of helped themselves, 426 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.359 kind of moved into politics and signed the Balfour Agreement and made themselves in 427 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.559 charge. Because all the people who were still fighting during World War One, 428 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.759 and I'm talking about the Germans, they thought they could win and wanted to 429 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.920 fight, but there was kind of a hostile takeover at the top. They 430 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.440 signed the Balfour Agreement and that is known as the stab in the back theory, 431 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.559 and I think something similar happened where the people, the powers that be 432 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:36.880 said hey, listen, we're going to end this. You come to America, 433 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.960 you know, we'll continue this way, and I think they actually created 434 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.480 The more I look into this and study it, I think Operation paper Clip 435 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.960 was just a cover story for something deeper, kind of like what we're talking 436 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.240 about. Now, Does that make sense? Yeah, no, you're totally 437 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.440 on the same spot. And that's why once I that the first episode I 438 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:01.240 listened to you. I got a friend of mine, he does pest control 439 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:07.839 and the place I work. He sent me a podcast from Spotify and it 440 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.440 was about this elite hacker who was a moral like he had morals, like 441 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.079 he was a good hacker, like yeah, like a white hat, but 442 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:21.640 he has like this program where he took a picture of this guy's the host 443 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.519 he was at. He just took a picture straight off of on his phone, 444 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.880 never been on the internet, and he was able to find his social 445 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.839 media, his Facebook, all that off of one picture that was never on 446 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.960 the internet. And it just blew my mind that this hacker is out there 447 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.839 and they could just he could do whatever. He could have all of your 448 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.799 passwords, if it's not like taking care of you don't have like a tech 449 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.440 savvy guy, you know, with you know, firewalls or whatever like mccafee. 450 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:52.519 That was another conspiracy, right, yeah. So and that's when it, 451 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.000 you know, I was like, I'm gonna type in you know, 452 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.319 flat Earth, let me see what comes up. Sure enough, your podcast 453 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.799 came up, the flatter five else and I just picked on a random one 454 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.880 and it was the guy from Wyoming, and it drew me in when he 455 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:10.519 said he was a Broncho fan and he doesn't like sports anymore. And I 456 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.800 was like, yes, I love you already. I don't know you, 457 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.760 but we're on the same page. And then I picked another random one when 458 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.639 I forget which one it was, but then you mentioned you had spent fourteen 459 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.880 hours of your life watching Europa, and I was hooked. I was like, 460 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.079 I need to talk to this guy. I need to get on his 461 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.679 podcast. I need to, you know, unload on him what I've got 462 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.360 to, what I've came across. And it's just been amazing listening to your 463 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.360 podcast, my friend. That's awesome, man. Yeah, it's been an 464 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.039 honor. We've had so many a wide range of people and ages, and 465 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.800 backgrounds, and it's I've learned something from everybody. So it's really been great 466 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.320 how this podcast has evolved. By the way, before I forget for people 467 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.079 who made doubt that sports are quote unquote rigged. You can look it's it's 468 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:05.719 not a secret. But mL NFL they're they're classified as entertainment right right, 469 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.440 not sports. And that's that was a great I'm not a huge fan of 470 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.239 the Ringer, but they actually wrote a story five or six years ago that 471 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.519 talked about the way they have gotten around some of these big issues, whether 472 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:23.920 it be narcotics um, federal medical regulations um, and the guy from the 473 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:30.119 Bills. Uh that that number three that that's a whole nother podcast in itself 474 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:37.119 the right. And I'm not just picking on like, uh, Michael Jordan, 475 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.800 I'm not just picking on him. Look at Elway. I looked up 476 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.159 to Elway my entire life. Apparently the seven is the God's number, yep. 477 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.800 And we'd always watched Elway on a white Horse on Our Savior Sunday, 478 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.239 you know. So don't don't get me wrong, always one percent part of 479 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.000 them as well, So it's all the way around. Yeah, you get 480 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.119 that stadium, I don't know if it still does. Used to have a 481 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.960 white horse like standing up putting stupid legs right in front of the stadium. 482 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:07.519 Right, there's actually three horses in Colorado of the Apocalypse. They've got Blucifer, 483 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.719 They've got another great horse. I'll have to look it up. I 484 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.440 don't know where that one's at. And then they have the Bronco one on 485 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.480 it, and at Denver mile High. There might be one at the Colorado 486 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.880 Springs Airport. Really, I want to say I lived on Drennin, which 487 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.320 was right down the right. We could get to the airport in five minutes, 488 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.639 and I want to say I remember it. I'd have to go back 489 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.800 and look, but I remember something like as you're coming down the road that 490 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:40.079 there was a horse there. That's another thing I wanted to mention. Illuminati 491 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.719 was formed in seventeen seventy six, right, so Colorado was formed in eighteen 492 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.159 seventy six. Each state of the United States has its own state steel. 493 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.880 Right state coin. Out of all those states, how many you think has 494 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:59.239 the all seeing eye on it? Said that one more time. Each state 495 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.320 has its own state seal, like a state bird or a state flower. 496 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.400 They have their own state coin right, right. So out of all fifty 497 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.840 states, how many you think has the All Seeing Eye on their state coin? 498 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:15.400 Just Colorado? Probably right, just Colorado. That is correct. That's 499 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:21.599 interesting. That's another that's another video. Odd flew me on because he was 500 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.440 from Denver and I didn't really meet him. I met him in public one 501 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.599 time and I said, hey, thanks for your stuff. He's like, 502 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:31.920 yeah, right on, And that was pretty much meaning Odd that was it? 503 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.599 Is it? Colorado? Is? Are they the thirty third state? 504 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.760 Am? I? You know what, I'll have to look that up, 505 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.679 but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't, because you know, Delaware here 506 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.880 were the first state. And for some reason, that's sticking in my head 507 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.519 because when the do you remember the King's Soup shooting? Yes, yes, 508 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.639 I was still in I to this day. I think that was a hoax. 509 00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.960 Oh, it absolutely was. I did a pod and I was actual 510 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:06.360 lea some I was a guest on someone's podcast. The podcast kind of evolved 511 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.559 and I don't know if they ended up. I guess it was too hot 512 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:13.679 for them to handle. But the King's Soups where it happened. It was 513 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.960 store number thirty three and it happened on March twenty second, which is Skull 514 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:24.679 and Bones Day three to two. And yeah, it was store number thirty 515 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.840 three and the guy, if you remember, I don't know if it's still 516 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.960 up. There was a video of a guy walking through the store and he 517 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.760 was showing kind of the bodies and everything, like, wasn't freaking out, 518 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.360 wasn't calling just kind of walking through like doodly dood just another day at the 519 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.159 grocery store. And it was just none of it made any sense. But 520 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.199 the big eye opener was March twentieth, two days before the headline on the 521 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.840 dead Ver post was the new gun control law was d o way. It 522 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:58.880 was dead on arrival. Two days later that happened, and on March twenty 523 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:06.119 third the bill got signed, right and then taking it back to April twentieth, 524 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.679 I was ditching that day class and that's when Columbine happened. I got 525 00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.760 a scar on my arm because I was jumping on a trampoline and I fell 526 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.119 off. But we were ditching that day and we tried to go back to 527 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.760 school and they wouldn't even let us back into school. Oh I bet I'm 528 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.559 sure it was locked down. Yeah, all schools in Colorado were locked down 529 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.159 at that time. We were a good distance from you know, Littleton. 530 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:37.440 But anyway, Yeah, so I was working when the theater shooting happened. 531 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.760 I gotten a call from my cousin from New York, and I had gotten 532 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.320 a call from a friend because we would during that time, we would be 533 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.239 a friend of mine. We would go out to every movie we possibly could 534 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:52.400 on the weekends. And I had no idea that that happened until I got 535 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.280 to work and everybody's hitting me up on my Facebook and I'm just like, 536 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.320 Wow, what really went down? I was literally four or five miles from 537 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.480 that theater shooting. Oh wow, that was twenty twelve, right, didn't 538 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:12.519 that end? Sandy Hook happened close to the same time, so that's even 539 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:19.239 crazier. Yes, And what's funny is apparently Sandy Hook doesn't even have playground 540 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:24.320 equipment. No, I was that blew my mind too. Yeah. I 541 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:30.400 met Um many times, and my radio show led into his doctor Jim Fetzer. 542 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.639 My show was ten twelve and his was twelve to two, and I 543 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.679 had him on a few times. If you go to my website in the 544 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.159 fact under dot com, you'll see the interview I did with him. He 545 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.880 just had, By the way, if anybody knows, he just had like 546 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.360 triple bypass surgery a couple of weeks ago. He's like eighty three and he's 547 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.280 still crushing the truth community. But he had, you know, one of 548 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.639 the parents suited him. I won't get into it. This is not the 549 00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:00.280 right platform for it, but uh four hundred in judgment that's sitting at the 550 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.039 Supreme Court right now. So Sandy Hook happened December fourteenth, twenty twelve. 551 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.639 And what was that called the Aurora shooting. Yeah, the Roora Theater shooting. 552 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:15.599 And it was weird because if there's a scene in the Batman movie that 553 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.599 basically has is it Sandy Hook and Aurora on the map or just Sandy Hook? 554 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:22.880 I don't remember. I don't. I don't. I think it's just 555 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.079 Sandy Hook. I'll have to watch that again. But yeah, no, 556 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.599 it definitely was Sandy Hook in there on that map. Yeah. So Aurora 557 00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:37.079 was July twentieth and Sandy Hook was December fourteenth, both in twenty twelve, 558 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.000 and that was right around the same time the NDAA was passed. But the 559 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.360 Smith Mount Agreement, which for people who don't know, it's called the Smith 560 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.559 Mount Modernization Act, and that allows the United States government to perpetrate propaganda against 561 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:57.039 its own citizens. After World War Two, I'm gonna say in nineteen forty 562 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.400 eight, the Smith Munt Act, which guy by the name of like Smith 563 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.039 and another guy Month they put it up, said hey, we're not going 564 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.440 to allow propaganda be put up against the United States by their own government like 565 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.400 so many other countries like China, North Korea. But Obama slides in. 566 00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.039 And what people don't realize is every year around May they come up with the 567 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:22.639 budget for the National Defense the NDAA for that year. Well that's where they 568 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:29.480 slide in all the extra little things because some of these are like fifteen hundred, 569 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.599 two thousand pages, and they know the citizens aren't going to read it, 570 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.360 so they slide these things in. Well, Jim Fesser was one of 571 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.760 the people who caught the Smith Month Modernization Act in there, where the government 572 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:45.400 can propagate propaganda against its own citizens. So if you wonder why they've COVID 573 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:54.039 all these mass shootings, it's because they're allowed to now right right, And 574 00:42:54.119 --> 00:43:00.760 even the last one that just happened in Connecticut. How the actress Melissa Joan 575 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.239 Hart. She just happened to be at that one. She just happened to 576 00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.480 be at the one in Sandy Hook or near it, and it was sort 577 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.000 of like third shooting. She was near, and I'm just like, come 578 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:17.360 on, yeah, you gotta be kidding me. Yeah. And and that's 579 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.800 still, you know, coming back full serve. By the way, I 580 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.760 did look it up while you were talking, and I remembered that was something 581 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.440 about Colorado. A thirty third state is actually Oregon, but Denver or sorry, 582 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.199 Colorado was the thirty eighth state. And thirty eight is the murder number 583 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.719 in Jamatria. If you look at the Murder by Numbers movie poster, the 584 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.800 E is the three, the B is eight. That there's your thirty eight. 585 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:45.039 And the police had the murder by Number song as well, which lends 586 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.960 credence to that number thirty eight. And there's a lot of people out there 587 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.719 who believe that is the nWo headquarters there at the Denver in the National Airport, 588 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.199 which also has the horses. I think that's where Blucifer is, right, 589 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.639 Yes, that's it. And so it's so creepy because he's got the 590 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.960 reddest eyes and and when you're driving up to it. The new hotel that 591 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.079 they have in front of it looks like a pair of wings. It's so 592 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:15.760 weird. It's the weirdest airport I've ever been to. Right when they built 593 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.079 it, before they did all this, we are a friend of us. 594 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.320 I'm young, I'm dumb. We would, you know, smoke some weed 595 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.440 and we'd go and ride the trains and you could just do that. Now 596 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.800 you can't even get past the first you know, ticket county. You can 597 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.679 barely get past that without going through security or having a ticket. But there's 598 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.960 this specific black window building. I think it's right when you walk bike. 599 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.519 So you've got three concourses. You've got Concourse A, B and C. 600 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.320 There's a part in Concourse A where you can walk to the gates and there's 601 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.960 just just building there. It's just it's it's out of place. It doesn't 602 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.960 look like it belongs there, and it's just all the windows are tinted and 603 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.559 I have you don't know what's in there. I don't know what's in there, 604 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.840 but yeah, I would definitely agree they have something. They've got a 605 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:06.800 time capsule there with a Freemason compass on it as well. Yep, that's 606 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.960 right. That's right. And a lot of the paintings and murals inside that 607 00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:19.480 inside the report itself is kind of weird. It is like, and nobody 608 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.400 really ever questioned it. We just, oh, we gotta go to San 609 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.920 Francisco, we gotta go to Florida, fifteen minutes late for our flight already, 610 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.360 you know, so nobody really paid attention. And once we started paying 611 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:36.239 attention, then then they started doing construction these last few years and they put 612 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:40.039 up, you know, crazy signs like the leader of the Underworld or the 613 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.119 Reptilians are here. I forget what the sign said, but it was like 614 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:52.760 conspiracy, like it was like mocking it. That's right. Yeah, that 615 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.960 state Colorado has so many red flags about it. Even the governor I think 616 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.840 his name is Polis Polis po l I, and you know, he comes 617 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:07.159 from an interesting family. He's of course, he's part of the U Desionist 618 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.599 clan, and he's openly gay. You know, he fits all the narratives 619 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.119 that they're pushing these days. And again his family interesting. I think they're 620 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:22.000 they made their money in the like they were like a Hallmark, a greeting 621 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.519 card company. So again, these aren't the everyday blue collar people. That 622 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.079 they want you to believe they are right. And what's funny. When I 623 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.920 was there living my last job there was working for a restaurant. I met 624 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.760 Guy Fieri and he just he's a nice guy, very nice guy, but 625 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.599 he just seemed a little like he's in the know. But he doesn't. 626 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.119 We don't know he's in the know. Right, there's one of the restaurants 627 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:54.880 that's on like fourth and Broadway. Right across the street is the architectural company 628 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.639 that built are Through the plans for d Ia and on top of their building 629 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:07.800 is a pyramidal last pyramid. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Colorado has definitely 630 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:16.239 got some satanic ties. It's very crazy. Design Innovations arch Incorporated. No, 631 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.960 that can't be right. That's in Knoxville, Tennessee. I don't think 632 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.440 Google read me or I have to look into that because I'm not sure. 633 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:29.119 Maybe I've come across the architect of Denver National before. Yeah, it's like, 634 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:34.119 um, if you google Earth it go forth in Broadway. It's like 635 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:38.360 in the art district. Oh, Curtis Fentress, I've come across the sky 636 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:45.440 before. He's done Airport, he's done the Convention Center, and he also 637 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.880 did the museum for the Marine Corps. I've come across this guy's name before. 638 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:57.400 He's the architect. Yeah. The recent rabbit hole I've been going down 639 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:01.639 is America apparently is the old local world. And I don't know if you've 640 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:09.000 ever heard this, but Arizona was actually Egypt. Now what's funny is when 641 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:15.079 I quit my job in twenty twenty one September twenty twenty one, I went 642 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.880 down to Arizona, New Mexico. I went all up the West coast up 643 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.679 into Olympia Washington. I was gonna do like a video collage of all the 644 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:34.639 capitol buildings. So I get up to Olympia Washington around October before October of 645 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.440 twenty twenty one, and they have a huge complex of the Roman Capitol building. 646 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.840 It's just massive. It's bigger than Colorados. And Colorado has a big, 647 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:51.679 massive area of Roman buildings right there. And it's really weird. So 648 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:57.679 I drive down to Oregon, Oregon. Salem, Oregon. Their old building 649 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.159 was torn down, but their new building has this weird golden statue at the 650 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:06.960 top, very creepy, very weird, and it's all gold. I'm just 651 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.480 like, wow, that sucks. And they have like part of the old 652 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.320 Roman style capitol building. But it's just like this new modern type, square 653 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:22.440 city type building. It's really weird. So or is this Tacoma. I'm 654 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:29.719 sorry, So Olympia, Washington is the capital of Washington and that right, 655 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.599 so that's where that building was. I have a video. I'm gonna send 656 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:37.760 that to you. And then I drove down through Portland and man Portland. 657 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.119 Look. Portland looks like a city. When it was built. It looked 658 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.320 like it was a good city to be in. And it's heyday, like 659 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.679 the sixties or the seventies and probably early eighties. Yeah, and the seventies 660 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.280 it was called like the Rows City. It was like one of the you 661 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.880 know, the premier cities in our country. Right. So I drive down 662 00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:01.840 through Oregon, I drive through I come through um Utah. So I'm driving 663 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.199 on Utah going back to Colorado, and I drive through the Devil's Canyon. 664 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:14.280 Literally they're flat top mountains and those are trees. I'll even send you that 665 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:19.760 video. I've got their trees. You can definitely tell that somebody cut them 666 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.320 down or the angels, like the Book of Enoch talks about. So my 667 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:30.239 rabbit hole is going down. America is Old World Egypt and Dabylon and whatever. 668 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:37.960 There's a next to the Mississippi River and Mephis there's an old bass pro 669 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.119 shop, but it's a pyramid. I don't know if you've ever heard of 670 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:47.239 that. Yeah, it was gonna it serves me correct, right Well, 671 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.840 the designer of that one wanted to build three pyramids right there, right next 672 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:59.039 to the Mississippi, just like they haven't Pisa. So this freemason has some 673 00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:06.719 books out. I'll send you a copy of that too. Apparently America was 674 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.840 old Egypt and the Gulf of Mexico. It talks about it in the Bible. 675 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.360 I forget what part, but a crescent moon type in the land, 676 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:22.719 and that's what the Gulf of Mexico looks like. And apparently Mississippi River is 677 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.440 the Euphrates River. And again I can't prove none of this again, but 678 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:35.039 there's a reason why we're in America now because of this end times and it's 679 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.559 just so weird. All flat Earth just threw me into here, threw me 680 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.639 into there, and I'm going down so many rabbit holes I don't know where 681 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.840 to, you know, I'll go into here for a little bit. Like 682 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.320 all I'm gonna take myself out of here for a second and I'm gonna go 683 00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.960 into another rabbit hole. Learned a little bit there, and it's just like 684 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.480 wow, all this stuff just blows my mind. Yeah, that's interesting. 685 00:51:54.679 --> 00:52:00.840 I've actually been basically close to the area there where the Tigris and phrates meat 686 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:07.719 and there is something. It's definitely that that area is much different than the 687 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.079 rest of Iraq and Kuwait, where much of it is just barren desert. 688 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:16.239 It's very lush palm trees, a lot different than the rest of the country. 689 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.880 That is interesting. I've never heard that before. I'll have to definitely 690 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.000 look into it. And again, you know, the Earth is six thousand 691 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.039 years old, so who's to say man hasn't manipulated well, you know, 692 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.159 we're talking about flat Earth, so it wouldn't be the first time that man 693 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:37.320 manipulated maps, right, right, right right. It's just amazing. That's 694 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.199 really interesting. So you said that you were pretty much full blown flat earth 695 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.039 or did you say twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, twenty January twenty 696 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:52.239 eighteen. I spent the last four months of twenty seventeen just indulging in flat 697 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:57.719 earth YouTube. It was right there before they started, you know, censoring 698 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.800 at all. And Nuary twenty eighteen, I was like, Yep, the 699 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:05.920 Earth is flat. That's the other thing. When you're driving in Colorado, 700 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:12.199 you can go north and south on I twenty five during a full moon, 701 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.199 that full moon stays on you and nobody else, because that's how we all 702 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.000 perceive it. We always look like the sun in the moon is looking at 703 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.360 us personally and nobody else, because that's how we all perceive it. And 704 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:29.360 that is one another beautiful things because it's just you can go one hundred and 705 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:34.639 twenty miles down from Fort Collins to you know, Pueblo. That's more than 706 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.599 a hundred and twenty, but you can go all the way in that moon 707 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.199 never stops looking at you, never stops looking at Jim, never stops looking 708 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.000 at Susie. And it's just it warmed my heart. Flat earth just warmed 709 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.840 my heart. To the Bible and it's just beautiful, just beautiful. Yeah, 710 00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:54.480 there was some the sunsets and the moon the nights in Colorado. It 711 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:59.159 is very special and it was honestly, it was that way in the Middle 712 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.039 East too, because we were in a lot of areas where there was no 713 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:07.039 light pollution and you could see everything in the sky at night. And it 714 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:10.480 was that way in Denver two as well. We we just lived a stone's 715 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.880 throw away from garden to the Gods. Okay, yeah, another beautiful place. 716 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.960 Yep, yep, we were on the north side. I'm looking at 717 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.800 your YouTube channel now and again it's Awakening Truth, which we'll have in the 718 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:30.760 show description. You did a couple of videos what does the Bible really say 719 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:36.280 about creation? And diving deeper into the biblical flat earth model I'm sorry, 720 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:40.679 the biblical earth model, and what are your big talking points from that video 721 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:46.159 that you'd like to share with the audience. Mostly we hit scripture, we 722 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.800 did, I'm pretty sure on that episode. We did a couple of our 723 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:54.960 testimonies, like I said, the guy I do my co host or the 724 00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:00.559 guy I did a show with us say that I met him at Skyball twenty 725 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:06.679 nineteen and he was from Colorado too well, which was really great. We 726 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.639 flew black on the same or flew back on the same plane from Atlanta, 727 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.719 Georgia. He was two seats behind me, but the guys sitting next to 728 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:16.559 me, I asked him to switch, and sure enough, because he had 729 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.360 the same seat just two rows back. So he was like, yeah, 730 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.079 sure, why not. So we sat there and we talked the entire flight. 731 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.960 He went to the same high school I did, just nine years prior 732 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.039 before me. We grew up in this Yeah, we grew up in the 733 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:37.480 same area. And it was just I was I was flat Earth has made 734 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:44.960 me like see all kinds of stuff because when when COVID happened, I was 735 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.679 working at the restaurant in Colorado, and I knew something wasn't right with COVID. 736 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:54.400 I just knew something wasn't right. So the people I worked for, 737 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.840 they were all like, oh, yeah, we gotta take the vaccine, 738 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.119 we gotta do this, gotta do that. Once I saw some jump Campudo 739 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:07.480 on CNN and I saw him on the movie Contagion and how he helped write 740 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:13.639 that movie Contagion, and some jump Caputo in that movie. I'm just like, 741 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.480 Wow, COVID is fake. How are they going to have an actor 742 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:22.079 on CNN on a movie play himself, you know, on CNN in real 743 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:27.159 life he can't make it up, right, you can't make it up. 744 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.519 So, you know, a little bit here and there, me and the 745 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.920 boss we got we got into it, and I was just I was over 746 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.119 it. I bought a van, I took off, and I kept gooding 747 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:44.119 into Facebook jail for thirty days over a Bible and flat earth. So I 748 00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:45.239 was just like, you know what, I'm done with Facebook. I can't 749 00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.880 do anything for thirty days after I post something that I believe in. So 750 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.719 I was done with Facebook. Well, the guy I do the show with 751 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.400 reached out to me through a mutual friend, found me and was like, 752 00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.360 Yo, come out to Missouri. We'll throw you up on the land. 753 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.599 We'll take care of you, get you a job. And I've been hearing 754 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:09.760 Missouri for about two years now and we've been we started the show, right, 755 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.719 So he felt like he had a calling to do. He wanted to 756 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:21.159 be a pastor. He was going to be ordained by Dean Odel but right, 757 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.840 but as as he was digging down or digging deeper into the Bible, 758 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.239 it tells you don't call yourself RABBI, don't call yourself father, you know, 759 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:35.039 just go out there and preach my word. Jesus is the you know, 760 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:39.480 almighty God, and God is the almighty God. Right, so it 761 00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.880 just made more sense for us to sit around and have a conversation with each 762 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.159 other instead of just sitting in a you know, a queue. Listen to 763 00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:52.559 some guy who says, this is what I think the Bible says. I 764 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.159 went to you know, Christian ministry school. I know what I'm talking about. 765 00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.159 And some of these pastors won't even like they won't even touch flat earth. 766 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.119 They won't even touch it with a glove on. They won't even right. 767 00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:10.880 And what really makes me angry is all these churches are empty the week. 768 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.719 There's no cars. The lights are on, but there's no cars there. 769 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.119 And it just makes me angry. This is supposed to be a house 770 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.719 of God. Why are we not helping people? Why are we not clothing 771 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:29.679 people like they used to back in the eighties. I was a what do 772 00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:31.599 you call it? I was a food stamp baby. We would go to 773 00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:37.159 the church for donations for clothes and pants and shoes. They don't do that 774 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:45.119 anymore. Some do, but not a lot anymore. Yeah. I think 775 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:46.920 I mentioned before. You know, there's a little church intent we're in a 776 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:54.400 very very very small town. And we went and they said, hey, 777 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:59.599 we're having a barbecue afterwards. And there was only twenty people in church that 778 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.199 day. Very small church, and there was probably enough food there to feed 779 00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.400 a hundred people. And I was kind of like, what are we doing? 780 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.840 Why aren't we? You know, I always believed and I'm not playing 781 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:12.800 the holier than now card, you know I'm not, but these are the 782 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.119 thoughts that run through my mind. I was like, everything that I want 783 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.079 to do in a church should be outreach, whether you're you know out you 784 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.960 know, I use the term knocking on people's doors, but that could mean, 785 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.599 you know, just walk around malls, sporting events, you know, 786 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:29.719 standing in high traffic areas and talking. But also what you said, you 787 00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:34.320 know, cloth, clothing drives, food drives and eventually, you know, 788 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.960 making people. So while these are people good, I want to emulate them 789 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.800 and then bringing them into into Christ. And you know, the very the 790 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:46.119 most popular video you have on your channel is very interesting. It says why 791 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:51.239 don't we go to church? And the subtitle is the church has left the 792 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:58.119 building? Elaborate on that a bit. So again, I ran from the 793 00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:02.440 Bible my entire life. Right, So my first two like church experiences I 794 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:08.119 ever remember it was Jesus Loves You. But here's the collection plate. You 795 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.960 know, we all here, we're all gonna be you know, we're all 796 01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:15.440 gonna go to heaven. But here's the collection plate. Well why are you 797 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.639 passing around a collection plate? You know? And I never thought about this 798 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.039 as a younger child, but it's just like, why do I need to 799 01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.199 give you money? Like you're supposed to be preaching the word. It's supposed 800 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:27.960 to be free to all of us. Why do I need to give you 801 01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:30.760 money? When the Bible says the love of money is the root of all 802 01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:36.880 evil. But you need money to let me hear you speak about the Bible. 803 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:44.239 So the guy they do the show with he understood this, like he 804 01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:50.079 just we get it, you know, we don't. Most of these churches 805 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:58.320 are all about the money. He met a pastor here somewhere in the Missouri, 806 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.639 the southern West Missouri part, and he wanted to talk to him about 807 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:06.320 flatter because they wanted to find a church to go to. They wanted to 808 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.800 find because he's got, you know, several kids, and he wants to 809 01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.199 teach them the right way. So the first pastor that he meets, he's 810 01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:15.480 like, no, I don't want to talk about flat Earth. I don't. 811 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:19.320 I don't want to talk about it. I've got a good gig here. 812 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.400 I was like Wow, it's a good gig. Well, it's not 813 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.320 supposed to be a gig. It's supposed to be, like you said, 814 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.760 an outreach. And we're supposed to be out there teaching and and hey, 815 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.800 Jesus loves us all. We're all dirt, you know, we're all bags 816 01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.119 of dirt. Not one of us is better than the other. But Jesus 817 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.559 loves you. He loves you just as much as he loves me. God 818 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.079 loves you. He made you specifically, He knew you before he formed you 819 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:51.000 in your mother's womb, and that's that's biblical as well. So we talked 820 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:59.079 about how every time I drive by several churches, they're they're empty, even 821 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.519 the big ones that costs millions of dollars to make, they're empty. Of 822 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:07.079 the week. You shouldn't be empty. We should have open arms. If 823 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:12.639 somebody's having a down day, if somebody's thinking of suicide, they can go 824 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.639 to this place. They can go and talk to a man of God, 825 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.199 like, hey, brother, hey sister, come in here, let's let's 826 01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.679 talk about this. Let me show you why you shouldn't be having these thoughts. 827 01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.000 Let me show you why. Let's let's get you cleaned up. Let's 828 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:29.880 get you whatever. You know what I'm saying. It just breaks my heart 829 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:35.800 that every time you drive by a church during the week, it's mostly empty 830 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.320 unless it's Wednesday night or Sunday morning. Yeah, and that's interesting. In 831 01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:44.480 the movies, you'll see the guy who's going through his shroubled life will stop 832 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:46.599 in at a church on like a Thursday night at eleven pm and a'll walk 833 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:51.199 in and light candles in the church. I'm like, if you go to 834 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.360 my church down the street, it's gonna be locked up and they're gonna call 835 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:59.639 the cops on you if you try to go in exactly exactly, which I'm 836 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:04.760 just so that's just how it is. I'm not saying how it should be, 837 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.440 but that's just the reality of it, of what it is today. 838 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:12.679 And see that's the other thing with with Nathan Roberts. We got close over 839 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.639 the time where he was in the still in the movement, but he lost 840 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:22.159 connection with with Dean because they didn't agree on something. It was like a 841 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.599 Kundalini spirit and this, that and the other, and they just didn't agree 842 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:34.519 on it. And I went in to UM twenty nineteen Skyfall thinking that we 843 01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.320 were going to just take over the world. It's flat I've got Nathan Roberts, 844 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.079 I've got Dean Odal, We've got this guy, We've got that guy. 845 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:44.480 I've got Matt Long, We've got we just got everybody, and we're 846 01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:49.599 about to just take over the world. And they crushed my world. They 847 01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.920 crushed my biblical world because they had a falling out. And now Nathan was 848 01:03:52.960 --> 01:04:00.159 going to do a conference himself. He had a good following, and I 849 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:01.760 was I was scheduled to be on his conference. I was going to do 850 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.480 my part and I was going to give a speech at his conference. But 851 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.960 his conference happened. It was going to be in April of twenty twenty, 852 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:16.920 and that's when they shut everything down. Right. Well, once they shut 853 01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:20.239 everything down, it just like it spread us out. You know, we 854 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:25.719 just stopped caring about flat Earth, we stopped caring about the Bible, and 855 01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:30.360 people just went around, you know, did their own thing, and and 856 01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.760 it just it just crushed me. And it shouldn't have. I put them 857 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.960 on a pedestal. And that's the other thing. You don't need to put 858 01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:41.000 a man on a pedestal. Me. I'm nobody on just a bag of 859 01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.519 dirt. I'm no better than anybody even listens to this episode. But the 860 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.159 Bible, Jesus is the Almighty Jesus, the Christ. You shoot mohamashiek, 861 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.800 whatever you want to call him, he is the almighty. He brings you 862 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:58.440 to God and he helps you. And it just that's how a church should 863 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.679 be. You should and have like a joel Ostein Man he looks evil to 864 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:10.280 me. Kenneth Copeland, he looks evil to me. P. D. 865 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:15.679 Jakes, you name him, Creflo Dollar. Even that pastor Stephen Anderson. 866 01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.760 Man, he makes me my blood boil because he hates flat Arthur's and he's 867 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:27.760 in Tempe Arizona, and man, he cannot stand flat earth. And Stephen 868 01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:32.320 Anderson, Stephen Anderson, I think you may have seen him or heard of 869 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.719 him. He's a very loud preacher and he just kicked a homeless guy was 870 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:41.039 sitting out of his church asking for money. Not asking for money, but 871 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.199 he wanted to read the Bible. He was a homeless guy and he was 872 01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.760 like, get that homeless guy out of here. Get him out of here. 873 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:47.320 That's that's not biblical. Get him out of here getting money. Don't 874 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.000 give him money. It's just like, bro, you are not a pastor, 875 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:56.639 my friend, you are so far gone it's sad. And that's the 876 01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.039 other thing. I think I mentioned him in that movie or that episode, 877 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:06.559 but I don't really remember because we kind of go off. So's we like, 878 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:12.199 we like speaking the Bible, love reading the Bible. I have the 879 01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.239 Matthews Bible that says letter, so if you want to read that, but 880 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.000 we can read that, that's awesome. Yeah, that I kind of remember 881 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:25.360 who the Stephen Anderson guy is now. He actually he's the guy who advocated 882 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:30.840 for the death penalty for homosexuals, right, yeah, I believe so, 883 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:34.679 I believe so. Yeah, And he was not a fan of Barack Obama 884 01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:39.920 and Caitlyn General. Again, you can't always depend on Wikipedia, but I 885 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:45.280 kind of remember this guy now that I'm looking at his Wikipedia page. And 886 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:51.159 the other guy, Copeland, he's part of that new Apostolic movement, the 887 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:59.360 Naar whatever. Not a good guy and of course another tool in the toolbox. 888 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.199 You know. He was part of Trump's advisory board. And I can't 889 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:08.480 think of a worst person to have on my board than Kenneth Copeland, right, 890 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.960 And I think he just had him. He did within the last ninety 891 01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:15.239 days, right, right, and he brought him up and he was like, 892 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.800 oh, this is Trump and I'm Copeland, and it's just like, 893 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.360 bro, I see something in you and it's not supposed to be there. 894 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:30.159 You ever see that clip of Copeland when he blows covid away. Yeah, 895 01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.000 the guy I do a coor the show with his kids. Love that. 896 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:39.679 That the song that that somebody made, you know, Yeah, it's great. 897 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.519 Yeah that metal guy made one too, right, Yes, yes, 898 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:54.119 yes, that's the one. I'm ridiculous. Um, I watched the show 899 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:59.599 or a podcast or listen. I can't remember where I said this guy said 900 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:05.599 that, Um, Jim Carrey is the Satanic leader of California and Joel Ostein 901 01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:10.159 is the Satanic leader of Texas. And again I can't prove none of that. 902 01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:14.599 There's a guy's testimony. But again, like you said, five years 903 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:16.760 ago, I wouldn't have bat an eye at this, But now I'm like, 904 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:19.920 let me let me put one eye over here, let me look with 905 01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:26.079 see what's going on. Yeah, Ostin really showed his colors when they had 906 01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:28.720 the flooding. I guess it was two years ago. It could have been. 907 01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.439 I can't keep track of time anymore. But whenever Houston had the big 908 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.520 flood. You know, he has this, however, many thousands of square 909 01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.239 foot mansion, and he wouldn't house anybody there. This is my house. 910 01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.760 I'm not going to keep any of you blue collars scum in my house, 911 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.239 right right, That's just that's not who Jesus walked everywhere. You know, 912 01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:51.359 he didn't have a Ferrari or a Lamborghini. Yeah, he didn't social distance 913 01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:59.319 either, No, he sure didn't. Kenneth Copeland is based out of Tarrant 914 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.920 County. Oh my goodness, gracious, I had that young lady on my 915 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:08.439 other podcast. A lot of traffic, child trafficking issues in that county, 916 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:15.800 a lot of abuse from the people in power in that county. I think, 917 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.319 thanks for saying that. Yeah, and again I'm not gonna I couldn't. 918 01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:25.880 Rob Skiba did a lot of good things for Flat Earth, and some 919 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:30.119 people say he faked his death. Whatever. May God rest his soul, 920 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.119 you know, hopefully he's in heaven now. He was a man of God. 921 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:42.000 But if you YouTube Rob Schemas acting Demo Real, there's a scene in 922 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.720 there which is really kind of weird. But he's doing a scene with Jim 923 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.359 Caviezel and it was a really weird scene. But it was the fact that 924 01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:57.119 he was with Jim Caviezel is what really made me not follow Rob Skiba. 925 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.439 I didn't know, Yeah, yeah, and not a lot of people do. 926 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:08.279 And he wanted to be an actor or whatever. But it was the 927 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:12.159 fact that it was Jim. It could have been anybody else, but it 928 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.359 was Jim. It was the passion of the Christ actor and it just really 929 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:24.560 rubbed me the wrong way. And again, I don't like to bad mouth 930 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:30.119 people because a lot of people have done a lot of good for this community. 931 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.159 Yeah sure, and we were a lot of different times in our life 932 01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:38.199 as well, right right, right, And Stiba did some amazing work for 933 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:43.800 flat Earth, amazing even with the Bible, because he came to the Flat 934 01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:49.359 Earth conference in Denver he just demolished was it Robertson Genis? Yeah, I 935 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:55.319 think it was Robertson Genis and he just demolished him only using the Bible and 936 01:10:55.399 --> 01:11:00.279 flat Earth and it was just amazing, just amazing. That's a thing. 937 01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:04.399 I've never heard that. So that would have been what twenty years ago, 938 01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:12.399 uh, something like that, ten twenty years ago, probably maybe fifteen, 939 01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:16.000 I don't know, huh. Yeah, that's one of my regrets. I 940 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.880 always say, Hey, I'm going to reach out to this guy and get 941 01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:23.239 him on my podcast. And I kicked myself every single day for not reaching 942 01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:27.359 out to And it's not really hard to get hold of people. I've I've 943 01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.439 chatted with what's the guy who lives in England. He's a big for last 944 01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.039 thirty years he's been in the truth community, David Ike. I've talked to 945 01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.800 his son and we actually had had him scheduled to be on The Fact Hunter 946 01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:41.520 a couple of years ago, but we had a communication issue and I just 947 01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:45.159 never reached back out to him to reschedule. People aren't really that hold They're 948 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.199 not that hard to get hold of. I just need to start out to 949 01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:53.119 people because you don't know what tomorrow brings, right. David Ike is amazing. 950 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:57.600 He doesn't he never really mentions the Bible, but he always talks about 951 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:01.039 the truth community and he I don't know why he's not dead, you know, 952 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:06.600 because he has definitely put a lot of truth out there. Yeah. 953 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:10.279 I actually bought his nine to eleven book. He's got a lot of interesting 954 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.399 takes. It's like fifteen hundred pages. Whether or not it's that long, 955 01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.520 but it's it's one of the biggest books I have. He put a lot 956 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.399 of work into it, cited a lot and by the way, Denver and 957 01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:25.960 Norad, He's got chunks and chunks of information. And it's interesting going back 958 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:30.960 to what you said you had Norad Peterson Air Force Base, you had where 959 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:36.439 I was stationed for Carson, the US Air Force Academy, and you said 960 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.239 it was just another ordinary day. Yeah, it was like then. There 961 01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.479 were no planes in the air. It was just peaceful. It was just 962 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:47.680 it wasn't I mean, you know, nine to eleven was very crazy, 963 01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.479 but we all met up in the park and we're just sitting there like, 964 01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:54.359 man, the world's gonna end. What's going on, We're going to war? 965 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.359 But no, no planes were mobilizing, nothing. It was just so 966 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:03.239 peaceful. And it was the same in Hawaiian Scofield Air Force Base or Scofield 967 01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:08.960 Barracks. The things we were doing, they were getting accountability of everyone, 968 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:15.319 even people on leave. They were you know, reinforcing the entrances, you 969 01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.920 know, the security areas. We were putting barbed wire up for some reason 970 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:23.800 around our headquarters buildings. But other than that, yeah, there was no 971 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.199 I don't remember looking up and thinking, wow, look at all the planes 972 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:30.479 swung around. It was just nothing, which in hindsight lends credence to the 973 01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:35.920 fact that they knew what was really going on. Yeah, and it's amazing 974 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.800 too because I think about that day and how blue the sky was. And 975 01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:45.159 once I started getting into like cam trails, I started recording some in I've 976 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:50.680 got several several videos in Denver where you just got this one line going this 977 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:56.520 way, this line going that way, and it's just so many like chemicals 978 01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:00.600 and she's it's sickening. It's just one of the worst things I've ever recorded 979 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:06.600 in my life. Have you had any luck sharing the flat Earth with your 980 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:14.439 acquaintances? See, that's the other thing. So I've had maybe four or 981 01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:19.199 five out of like I want to say, maybe a hundred people I've actually 982 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:23.119 come out to, like you know one guys that were coming out of the 983 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:29.279 closet, flatter closet. I'm that type. Now I'm very arrogant with it, 984 01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:31.600 like, hey, I'm a flat earther, this is why. And 985 01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.920 people look at me like what is going on with this guy? And I'm 986 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:39.760 like, I don't hide it from nobody. As soon as you meet me. 987 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:45.279 I hey, I've believing the Bible and the earth is flat. I've 988 01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.600 got I've got pictures of the sun in the moon. I've got pictures of 989 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.600 the sun looking like exactly the same size of the moon. There was a 990 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:56.920 fire in Denver, or not Denver, but the Rocky mountains and you could 991 01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.960 just see the sun. I've got my P. One nine nine thousand, 992 01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.359 P. One thousand, and I've took a picture, several pictures of the 993 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:08.359 sun and it's exactly the same size of the moon. You can't even deny 994 01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.520 it. Even the Book of Enoch says that the sun and the moon are 995 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:15.880 the same size. That just the sun is brighter. And that's so refreshing 996 01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:21.680 to hear the last several guests, including yourself, have the same outlook like 997 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:25.039 this is who I am, this is my beliefs. If you have a 998 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:29.279 problem with it, well sorry, you know, I'm sorry if I offend 999 01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:30.720 you. But this is you know, it's refreshing, you know, to 1000 01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.560 hear that people are so you know, deep in their convictions, and I 1001 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:41.720 understands there's there's people at certain places in their life that they just don't feel 1002 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:45.880 comfortable. And it is still to me in retrospect, there are people who 1003 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.479 have no problem again debating the fact that we never went to the moon, 1004 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:55.239 that you know, we killed the president, that we did nine to eleven, 1005 01:15:55.319 --> 01:15:58.920 you know, all these things, but the fact that we're you know, 1006 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.640 you look at all the number, the thousand miles spinning hurtling through space, 1007 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.720 sixty six thousand chasing the sun. That's the one thing that's not a 1008 01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:14.319 conspiracy theory, right, And again I was that guy too, up another 1009 01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:16.560 flat earth nut. You know, I deleted David Weiss's email when he send 1010 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.520 it to me. I'm like, who is this crazy guy? I'm all 1011 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:23.640 about conspiracy theories? But come on, man? And then you're like, 1012 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:28.600 whoa how how naive was I? And that's funny that you say that, 1013 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.680 because when I would ask Siri how fast is the Earth orbiting the Sun in 1014 01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:36.640 twenty nineteen, I've got three or four screenshots and it would come up, 1015 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:41.359 you know, six thousand or sixty six thousand, six hundred miles an hour. 1016 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.680 Now, when you ask series, right, something different? Right, 1017 01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:53.039 even on Google they're starting on some search engines, it'll still show that, 1018 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:56.680 but many of them changed it to sixty six thousand, seven hundred just to 1019 01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:02.720 kind of deflect, I'm waiting for them to change the dimensions of the Washington 1020 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:12.920 Monument, so right exactly. Speaking of that. In cosmology, Nathan Roberts 1021 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:17.119 was doing a YouTube channel. He's doing it a show one night, and 1022 01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:23.479 he had an ex Satanists on there and he was wearing like a Nathan's hat. 1023 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.000 And whether or not this is true, I haven't tried this myself, 1024 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:30.479 but if you take an old compass, you know, with a compass with 1025 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:34.079 the pencil and then that you stick it in the middle and you could draw 1026 01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:38.359 a circle on a flat piece of paper. He says. If you do 1027 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:42.720 that, you find direct North. Look where the direct North is. And 1028 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.479 let's say today, today's your birthday. Go out on at five o'clock in 1029 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:50.239 the morning. For five years, you go out every every time on your 1030 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:55.479 birthday at five o'clock in the morning, look at Venus. Find Venus. 1031 01:17:55.520 --> 01:18:00.000 But make sure you have your same paper direct North, and every five years 1032 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:01.760 it draws a star. Mean, this will be over here, here, 1033 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:06.039 here, and here, and when you connect the dots, it draws a 1034 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:13.319 pentagram. Really and he spect, yeah, he speculated that Satanists actually which 1035 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:16.239 is actually draw power from this and this was this was on Nathan's channel. 1036 01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:24.600 The ex Satanist said he was speculating, what if Venus Satan cursing us on 1037 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:34.319 the way down. That's interesting, very interesting. Planetary magic. That's interesting. 1038 01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:40.319 I've never heard it. Planetary magic. Isn't that weird? The five 1039 01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:45.359 petals of Venus? Oh man? Yeah, I see exactly what you're talking 1040 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:48.359 about. It's even it's not hard to find even how to cast spells. 1041 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:53.439 I'm gonna ex out of this. What in the world, Oh man, 1042 01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:58.520 I'm gonna mess around and summon a demon during my podcast and I'm sorry for 1043 01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:03.279 that, canidding, kidding. The stuff that flat Earth has brought me into 1044 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:11.279 the Satanic version of everything that's connected to it just you know, solidifies that 1045 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:14.479 the Bible is the real deal, of the scriptures is the real deal. 1046 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:18.479 Is the Bible is alive? You know that there is. You're exactly right, 1047 01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.000 you know, And people ask all the time, and that is part 1048 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:26.600 of Nathan's book. In the very beginning, as many of our podcasts start 1049 01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.359 out whether it's a flat Earth, Well, for both Flat Earth podcast, 1050 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.279 why the lie? Right that that is the big question? Well, why 1051 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:40.239 would they lie? Well, you know it much of heliocentrism is based on 1052 01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:47.760 Luciferian numbers and images and mantras, and it is anti God. You're you're 1053 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.680 absolutely right. And I'm starting to believe that numbers are all, you know, 1054 01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:57.880 satanic in nature, because we're all dependent on numbers in our bank account. 1055 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:00.279 We got to wake up at five o'clock numbers to get to work. 1056 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:04.560 We've got to worry about the hours we work. We worry about birthdays, 1057 01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:10.439 We worry about numbers all the time, and we don't realize it. That's 1058 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:15.600 right. And also frequencies is something that I've kind of been jumping into. 1059 01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:23.000 Listening to music at I want to say, five twenty eight mega hurts or 1060 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:29.479 something. There's actually healing attributes to listening to music at a certain frequency. 1061 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:35.840 Right. And when you talk about frequency, apparently doctor Randall Riife was carrying 1062 01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:41.039 cancer with the frequency machine. Yeah, back in the thirties. Yea. 1063 01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:47.319 And it took me down. Another doctor, doctor Alan Goldhammer. His a 1064 01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:51.680 thing is called True North. It's in California, and he's a fasting doctor, 1065 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:57.600 and he was carrying type two diabetes, certain cancer with people just fasting, 1066 01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.760 not eating, just drinking water. And Big Farmer tried to sue him 1067 01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.920 in the eighties. Never been in trouble in his life. He had to 1068 01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:10.920 go back to his parents and ask for money to get a lawyer because Big 1069 01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:16.800 Farmer tried to sue him for healing people. There's a reason that most of 1070 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:24.920 the alternative cancer treatment centers are in Mexico now right. And what's his name? 1071 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:30.960 The doctor in the Polish doctor that was carrying cancer? Oh man, 1072 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.479 I forget his name. I'll send it to you when when I get we 1073 01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:38.199 get done with this. But they tried to put him in jail for like 1074 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.840 hundreds of years, and they tried to sue him for millions of dollars because 1075 01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:49.720 he was using medicine that they were making, but he was focusing it elsewhere 1076 01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:56.000 and it was carrying people of cancer. What's his name? I forget? 1077 01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:59.359 Sorry, No, you're good. I didn't entire during this past winter, 1078 01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:03.119 I didn't entire week of people who were involved in alternative medicine who have been 1079 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:09.960 ruined and chased out of the country. Because again, cancer and the Rockefeller 1080 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:14.039 medical industry is a huge business. And if you say, hey, look 1081 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:18.199 you can cure this with dandylions, well, that takes away from a billion 1082 01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:21.880 dollars industry and they can't have that. Just look at the young lady back 1083 01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:25.439 a couple of years ago, I think it was December of twenty twenty. 1084 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.640 Her name was like Brandy Vaughan, who was a sales rep for Murk, 1085 01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:30.720 and she came out talking about vaccines and then boom, she's you know, 1086 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.319 wound up dead. And you look at all the other true seekers, Gary 1087 01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:40.000 Webb and Terrence Yike that the police officer from Oklahoma City. People say, 1088 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.039 well, if this was a conspiracy, you know, why don't people say 1089 01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:45.239 anything. There have been tons of people who try to come out and say 1090 01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:48.000 things then they end up dead. Just look at all the friends of the 1091 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:54.439 Clintons. Why who knows sixty five people that committed suicide? Right, and 1092 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.560 the whole set of rich and on and on and on. And look look 1093 01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.239 at the Wiki leaks guy. Look at the Bradley Manning. I know he 1094 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:05.039 turned into a bit of a freak show. But you know, you expose 1095 01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:09.880 something bad and instead of the people committing the crime get in trouble, the 1096 01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.520 person who exposes the crime gets in trouble. That's kind of the world we 1097 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:17.880 live in today. Right, And his name was doctor Prasinski. Oh yeah, 1098 01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:20.279 yeah, yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, 1099 01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:25.880 right, And it's just amazing to me that they want to hide all this 1100 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:30.079 stuff. And it just again another thing that solidifies the Bible and God being 1101 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:34.600 real and we're living in some crazy, wicked times as it is, you 1102 01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:40.479 know, yep, absolutely, I've only got about five minutes left. I'd 1103 01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:42.439 love to Actually, I'll talk to y'all a Flyne. I'd love to bring 1104 01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.399 on the fact on her sometime and talk about some of this stuff. But 1105 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.560 if you go to your Bible dot com and just put fast or fasting and 1106 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:53.960 the search engine God, and you know, the Bible speaks often about how 1107 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.239 we should be not just praying, but praying and fasting and again this is 1108 01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:01.000 I should be doing this myself, agreed. And it even talks about eating 1109 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:05.640 all the fruits and vegetables and the seeds because I remember as a kid, 1110 01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:09.520 don't eat the seeds, you'll go you'll grow a watermelon in your belly. 1111 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:15.039 Yeah. And the guy who's still in jail for crying himself from apricot seeds. 1112 01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:19.680 Yeah, man, George, it's been amazing talking to you. Well, 1113 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:23.399 I don't get often to talk to people that think the same as we 1114 01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:27.079 do. Yeah, And I say the same thing to all my guests. 1115 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.640 We're all you know. One of the most common emails I get is I 1116 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:32.680 feel alone. I don't have anybody to talk to. I'm in the same 1117 01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.479 boat. I've got a lot of acquaintances, but I don't have a lot 1118 01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:41.640 of friends in person physically around me to sit down at the at the corner 1119 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:45.319 country store and have a milkshake and talk about these kind of things. Because 1120 01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:49.000 the minute you bring up you know, you can talk about the eagles and 1121 01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:54.439 the phillies and the orioles and things like that. But the second you say, 1122 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.960 hey, you know what that this whole we're on a ball. It's 1123 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.279 such a joke, isn't it. We're on a flatter Where are you going? 1124 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:05.439 There? They're out? Um? Which again, you know, I 1125 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:09.239 think we were all on that boat at some time. Um. But I 1126 01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:12.439 do think we're making progress. I can see by the numbers, uh and 1127 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.560 the downloads that we are certainly we're making a dent and we are waking people 1128 01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:20.600 up. I'll leave you with with your last thought, agreed, UMU. 1129 01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:25.960 Whoever listens to this, I truly believe that the Bible is the real deal. 1130 01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:29.000 Maybe it's a little bit mixed up here and there, but once you 1131 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.479 really look into stuff and look up Lee Stroble, Lee Stroble was it was 1132 01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:41.039 uh Chicago tabrine journalists. He didn't believe in God, and then something happened 1133 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:45.239 in his life and now he's a preacher in Texas and it's amazing. Um. 1134 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.479 I love flat Earth. I love speaking to people about flat Earth. 1135 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:53.039 I love talking about my journey and some of the stuffs that I've brought and 1136 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:57.920 come across, and it's just it's amazing. Open up, just open up 1137 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:01.199 your mind to the world of puffabilities because there's a lot of lies out there, 1138 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.760 but there's people like me and George and several others that are pushing the 1139 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:10.600 truth out there and it's it's it's this amazing community we have. Yeah, 1140 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.880 and definitely make sure you all go to Awakening Truth. It'll be in the 1141 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:17.479 show description. Go ahead, click on that link. Check out his his 1142 01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:24.680 videos, and again his email address Nicolas Quinn fifty two eighty at yahoo dot 1143 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:28.319 com, which is a shout out to the mile high right, Yes sir, 1144 01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:31.920 and at yahoo dot com. And again that'll be in the show description 1145 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:35.520 as well. It's been an absolute pleasure and I look forward to doing it 1146 01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:41.439 again and again. Folks, Thank you guys so much for listening, and 1147 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:44.560 God bless each and every one of you. And until the next time, 1148 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:46.520 keep your head on a swivel and we will see you.