Hey, it's Jennifer Jones Lee. You're listening to KFI, a M six
forty wake up call on demand on the iHeartRadio app. My name is Jason
Middleton. This is your wake up call. Like I said, Monday,
May fifteenth, Mother's Day yesterday, if you celebrate, Hope it went well.
I was talking to my mom a little bit and she saw the Jane
Fonda movie. I think that that was probably She's not unique in that,
but I'm glad that she got out and did some stuff over the weekend.
Also, Google, Google had its big conference last week, its Developer Conference
and artificial intelligence, which has been pretty much every other headline since about January.
Google kicked that ball down the road pretty hard and it looks like investors
are responding. So today Open ai is the name of that and it's CEO
is Sam Altman. He's going to be on Capitol Hill today to talk about
AI in the future, not just for business, but for the world in
general. The chat GPT is what Microsoft partnered with on its bing search engine.
Google wanted to respond, and it did respond. Open ai is one
of the fastest growing websites on the planet right now, a billion unique visitors
a month, so everybody's kind of interested in it, so we're keeping it
on our radar pretty hard. Later this hour, we have several ongoing news
topics this week to discuss with live guests as well. But here's a couple
of quick headlines as we get going this morning. That looming deadline for the
US debt default is called X Day, and as it gets closer, negotiators
on both sides seem more optimistic, at least publicly, that a deal could
be reached in time. That means the government needs to be able to pay
its debts, and the cornerstone of the global economy is the twenty four trillion
dollar US bond market, so that's why that could rattle markets, and it
already started last week and it's going to continue on right now. The X
day seems to be June one. That could fluctuate a little bit depending on
how tax receipts come in from May as well, So there's that We're going
to have more on that with somebody live this hour or two on wake Up
Call. President Biden wants states to help strengthen background checks on gun buyers younger
than twenty one in order to slow the pace of mass shootings. He made
the appeal in a weekend op ed in USA today. And the NBA playoffs
continue tomorrow. The Lakers play the Nuggets tomorrow night, and then Wednesday,
the Celtics play the Heat and the winners of those series are going to meet
for the championship. And if you're an NBA fan, you got to see
about half a basketball game yesterday because the Sixers just folded against against the Boston
Celtics. And in just a few minutes, we're gonna talk with ABC's Eric
Katurski. The anniversary of the mass shooting and killings in Buffalo, New York,
came and went yesterday. We will talk with Aaron about how Buffalo has
responded over the past year. That's when ten were shot dead at a supermarket
there. Let's start with a couple of stories coming out of the KFI twenty
four hour newsroom. Investigators are trying to figure out what caused a crash on
the ten Freeway in Riverside County. They killed three members of a family,
including two young girls. The family was in an suv that collided with a
tesla yesterday. The driver of the suv lost control, hit the center divider
and flipped over. Six people were ejected. The HP says the family may
not have been wearing seatbelts. Hundreds of hospital workers in Thousand Oaks could soon
walk off the job. The union that represents employees at Los Robles Regional Medical
Center voted a strike for five days starting the twenty second of this month.
Service Employees International Union United Healthcare Workers West or sciu UHW says that the only
way to avert this strike is if an agreement has reached in negotiations. Workers
in sciu UHW range from ear tech to food service employees. One worker says
that the biggest problem is a shortage of workers. Negotiations are scheduled this week,
and hospital officials say that this plan strike is reckless and unnecessary. Andrew
Caravella at KFI News a heads up for anyone headed to us Comity In National
Park this week. Three campgrounds are closing this morning due to the threat of
flooding. As of two weeks ago, the park had received more than double
the average amount of snowfall for this time of year. Officials say the combination
of hot weather and abundant snow well that means the Merced River may remain above
floodstage for some time. There is an update on those closures expected later today.
In just a couple of minutes, we're gonna check in on the debts.
Oh, we're gonna check in with Aaron Katurski and discuss the anniversary of
the killings last year in Buffalo, New York. And we are back at
six minutes after five o'clock and on our wake up call, we have ABC
Senior investigative reporter Eron Katurski. A year ago yesterday, Aaron ten people gunned
down in a neighborhood east of Buffalo, New York. How does Buffalo mark,
the university mark the anniversary? So there was a ceremony at the top
supermarket that came under fire, that was the scene of the carnage, and
that has all been refurbished and reopened, and you know, a real focal
point for that community as it always was, but there was a real determination
express to not have the the massacre and it's racist underpinning to be sort of
the defining moment for the neighborhood. Right they there was a you know,
love overheight kind of message, and I think that it's particularly important for that
community and especially at that store. There wasn't a lot going on retail wise
in that neighborhood. It was a big deal and the supermarket opened, it
had become a place that was, you know, kind of for gathering for
the community as opposed to just the place of I ABox of Sereal and and
so there was this sort of nice message of of hope and healing and love,
even though I think the pain of the day still prevails, especially for
those who lost loved ones and who have endured the guilty plea of the shooter
and more federal charges pending, and it's just been it's been an ordeal over
the last year for the FA. It seems like your coverage and some of
the other coverage as well, indicates that some in the neighborhood there are concerned
that the cameras are only there or the reporters only there at certain times.
Has there been any forward progress politically speaking or socially speaking when it comes to
East Buffalo in this situation, I think socially for sure, right there does
seem to be a recognition that there was a you know, of what motivated
this, and of a determination to not make that thing as much as as
possible, but politically, look, there's there's nothing going on in the country
that would legislatively anyway to do anything to curtail these shootings. They've only increased
in frequency. We're going to celebrate, not celebrate, sorry, mark the
year since Uvaldi what in another week, and then it'll be Highland Park after
that, And in the meantime there's going to be a bunch more mass shootings.
So over the weekend the President hold for gun control measures that are probably
not going anywhere. And you know, I think that the Attorney General of
the state, along with the Attorney General of California, have been trying to
do things, little bits and pieces, to try and take on the gun
industry. But it shows you the limits to what, you know, a
public policy can do in a country that just has no appetite to curtailed gun
ownership or gun sales. Yeah, you mentioned the bits and pieces. One
of the incremental things that came out of this shooting was a lawsuit against the
maker of the I believe is a gun clip attachment that was supposed to make
Yeah, this is it's a locking mechanism made by Mean Arms. They're a
company in Georgia, and they make a device it's like twenty bucks to lock
the magazine into place on a rifle, and it made the rifle locata to
own and purchase in New York. Because it had a limited capacity magazine.
Peyton Gendrin modified it and took the lock off and made it, you know,
put in a high capacity magazine that he used in the massacre. And
the the lawsuit says that the company makes this locking mechanism basically for the user
or take it off, and they give you instructions for how to um,
you know, for how to remove the lock on the packaging. So the
the Attorney General's lawsuit accuses mean Arms of aiding and abetting Peyton Gendron's ownership of
the weapon. UM. It's a bit of a novel legal approach, but
they're, you know, they're trying to make something and some one or some
company accountable here, even though you know it's just in a very limited way.
At the top of our discussion, Aaron, you mentioned that this happened
at the supermarket that was unique in the East Buffalo neighborhood. It was a
food desert because that that market had to close for a couple of months.
Has that been addressed it all. I know that market is reopened, but
how did they how did they address that overall situation with not access to food?
Well, I think that you know, what we saw in the aftermath
of the shooting was companies coming in and just giving food away. They they
mobilized during the months when the store was closed, they mobilized just giveaways that
other companies donated, and community members kind of formed up these volunteer armies to
pass out food as best they could. But that's why the store, I
think was such an important symbolic target, and maybe Payton Gender knew it as
he was doing his research and casing the place, because the neighborhood was a
food desert until that market opened, and there was never a thought by the
way that it was going to close after the shooting. It was always going
to reopen. They refurbished it, reopened a couple of months ago. People
were clearly happy to have it back. And I think that that's what made
the shooting even more insidious than just the ten lives lost. That it was
that it shows the shooter shows a spot that was a focal point for the
neighborhood. Aaron, thank you for your coverage and I appreciate your time,
Stealer, ABC senior investigative reporter Aaron could Tursky there in Buffalo, New York.
Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty
four hour news room. Seven CHP officers are due in court in LA for
the death of a man from Burbank who was restrained so a nurse could get
a blood sample. The man had been stopped on the five Freeway in twenty
twenty and refused a DUI test. The CHP officers are charged with manslaughter and
assault under the authority under the color of authority. The nurse is charged with
involuntary manslaughter. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcis says fewer migrants have been crossing than
expected following the end of Title forty two last week. For the past two
days, the United States Border Patrol has seen an approximately fifty percent drop in
the number of people encountered at our southern border. That under new rules,
non Mexican migrants looking for asylum in the US first have to show proof they've
and denied protection from a country they passed through on their way to the US
border. They also have to use a federal app to make an appointment.
Migrants admitted into the US last week have been given asylum court dates as late
as twenty thirty two and twenty thirty five. That's in Chicago and Florida.
The Homeland Security Secretary majorcas says that the app wait time is still building.
President Biden is planning to meet with Congressional leaders again this week talk about the
raising that debt ceiling. ABC's Elizabeth Schultz says the meeting is in for a
set for tomorrow, the day before Biden goes to Japan for the G seventh
Summit. There are less than three weeks now for negotiators the White House and
leaders of Congress to come to some sort of agreement to essentially raise the debt
limit that would allow the government to keep on paying its bills as usual.
Administration officials have warned that the government could default on its debts if the spending
limit is not raised by June first. President Biden told reporters yesterday he's opt
mystic about a deal to avert the US debt default. Of course, he's
always pretty much optimistic. When we come back, it's checkbook time for the
government. How close is the US two defaulting on those obligations. One of
the checks that needs written covers the interest on government bonds. I mentioned that's
a twenty four trillion dollar market. That is the benchmark of the world economy.
You're listening to Wake Up Call with Jennifer Jones Lee on demand from kfive
AM six forty. Here's some of your stories. We're watching the KFI twenty
four hour newsroom. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcas says the US Border Patrol has
experienced a fifty percent drop in encounter since title forty two ended Thursday at midnight.
Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenski says an upcoming military counter offensive is aimed at freeing
occupied territory in his nation. Speaking in Berlin yesterday, Zelenski said, we
do not attack Russian territory. We liberate our own legitimate territory. Guardians of
the Galaxy continues to rock the box office. The latest edition of the space
traveling It's called a comedy adventure franchise, earned sixty and a half million dollars
in its second weekend of release in the US and Canada. Coming in second
right, there was Super Mario Brothers ABC. Steve Roberts is going to join
us live later. The topic was Steve, this morning is going to be
Donald Trump, specifically, why, where, and how the media covers Donald
Trump. Of course, he is the presidential nominee front runner. He's also
prone to lying. He's also good for ratings. So we're going to unpack
that dynamic with Steve Roberts. But right now we have ABC's White House correspondent
m Win on the line to talk debt ceiling, the looming X day and
the day that's the day the US could default on its obligations to pay its
bills. Good morning, m Good morning Jason. Good to be here.
How are negotiations teed up for this work week? As we get started for
this work week. While we have heard from President Fighting, he says they're
working at a time whereas he and congressional leaders will meet for the second time.
He believes it's going to be on Tuesday. That's still his plan to
leave for the g seventh summit on Wednesday. Remember, this would be the
second meeting on the issue with top congressional leaders, and they all met for
the first time last Tuesday. They were supposed to meet on Friday, but
that was postponed so that these staff global talks could continue. We heard from
administration officials saying that these aids who have been talking about the debt limit,
these talks were constructive and serious this weekend. But it's still not clear if
the White House Republicans are any closer to a deal to this point. Okay,
so their constructive talks off camera, and you mentioned that Friday's meeting was
postponed. Is happening Tuesday? So in between are the Sunday news shows.
Anything happened publicly or in the media that might help things, help us understand
things one way or another. So there have been talks about a short term
debt limit as an option, you know, just kind of passing this on
to kick the can down the curb. But we did hear from the National
Economic Council Director Lyle Brainer who kind of dismissed that despite the President Peaslee suggesting
that it could be considered. Brainer just that a short term deal is not
a fix. So this means they are continuing to try to get an agreement
through for the next couple of weeks. But remember, even if they were
to be able to get a deal it would have to come sooner than June
first, because it would have to go through the congressional process as well.
You know, the House, the Senate would have to pass it, and
there's a lot of debate I'm sure that we can expect on this issue,
and then the President would have to sign it. So there's not much time
left for the president and congressional leaders. So overall, you know, if
a formal meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, that would be a good sign sense.
The last one was postponed because of the lack of progress. We're speaking
with ABC White House correspondent, and when so Biden was veep back in the
Obama administration, we kind of brushed up against this. We didn't kind of
we did in twenty eleven. In twenty twelve, does this debt sealing debate
feel any different to you? I mean, at this point, you know,
we have never defaulted on the debt. Could it happen this time?
There's always a possibility. At that point. In twenty eleven, Republicans,
much like now, we're using a dead limit debate as a borrowing chip for
spending cuts. The stock markets were reeling. There was seventy two hours to
go before the US would have defaulted on its debts, and that's when Republicans
and Democrats agreed on the bill and was raising the death sailing and cutting spending
by nearly the same amount. Could that happen again, It's very possible,
and you know, there's many experts who say at this point, it's very
possible that the nation could default. But it appears as if the only thing
we know for sure between Democrats and Republicans is that they don't want to get
to that point. They don't want to be blamed for if the US actually
defaults, because a lot could happen if that were to happen. Oh,
absolutely, And I know you're a White House correspondent, But if we look
at if past is prologue, Mitch McConnell sent a minority leader. Mitch McConnell
played a bigger role in twenty or twenty twelve, then he seems to be
playing this time around. Why is that dynamic difference or do you think or
do you think that maybe there's a political wait and see kind of thing happening.
There's possibly a political part to this. You know, we've heard from
McConnell. He has said he's going to be backing House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and
whatever negotiations he wants. And it's very clear that a couple of things.
One, yes, he played a Q roll in twenty eleven to help the
US narrowly avoid a default. He's had a long history of negotiating high profile
issues with President Biden, but this time he's taking the back seat. He
says that basically any proposal that originates from the Senate won't pass the House.
He says until the President and the Speaker of the House can reach an agreement,
will be at a standoff. And some believe that this is a type
of strategy to keep Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, who's also had his spare share
of negotiations, out of these talks. Well, this is going to be
fun to watch this week in a very tense kind of way. ABC White
House correspondent m when and I'm sure we'll speak again later this week. Thank
you for your time this morning, though, thanks so much. Let's get
back to some of the stories coming out of the KAFI HAD twenty four hour
news room. Officials say there has not been the crush of migrants at the
California Mexico border as predicted. In fact, one border agent said it was
pretty quiet. The COVID Related Health Order Title forty two expired Thursday night,
and by Friday and Saturday there were a few hundred migrants trying to enter the
pedestrian gates at the same useed report of entry, but officials say most of
them were turned away because they didn't have an appointment or previous arrangement for an
immigration hearing. The FEDS had created an app for migrants to get an appointment,
but some waiting in Tijuana say the app wasn't working. The Biden administration
has also ordered the enforcement of Title eight, which prohibits migrants from seeking asylum
in the US unless they already tried with another country. Steve Gregory Kafi News.
Firefighters in industry have rescued a person from a stalled car moments before it
was hit by a train. The car got stuck on the tracks after a
crash late Saturday. The person inside was trapped needed help getting out. No
one was hurt in the collisions. The TSA is testing the use of facial
recognition technology at sixteen airports across the country. The Transportation Safety Administration says the
technology is an effort to more accurately identify the millions of passengers traveling through airports
every day. The agency says passengers can opt out. Critics have raised concerns
about questions of bias in facial recognition technology and of possible repercussions for passengers who
want to opt out. Former La County Supervisor Gloria Molina has died, just
a couple of months after she announced she had terminal cancer. Molina entered politics
at the state level in nineteen eighty two. She served on the La City
Council in the late nineteen eighties and on the Board of Supervisors beginning in nineteen
ninety one. She was on the board for twenty three years. Molina's family
announced her death death yesterday. She was seventy four milative is tuch it simni
Kitakalmasnaya. The presidential election in Turkey could be headed for a runoff, as
Turkish president does not have enough votes to be declared the winner. President Dwan's
twenty year rule could be on the line. He had a comfortable lead in
early results, but that's subsided as the voting continued. ABC's Britt Clanet says
President Erdwan has told supporters he still thinks he can win re election, but
that he would also welcome a runoff. The UK has promised more missiles in
drones to Ukraine as President President Vlodomir Zelensky goes on a diplomatic tour of Europe.
The UK sent short range missiles to Ukraine last week. Zelenski has also
met with leaders of Germany, Italy and France in the past few days.
Southern California weather from KFI low clouds and fog in the morning. That's sunny
for La and Orange County today, highs in the seventies to around eighty inland,
with mid upper sixties for high tempts at the beaches. For the San
Fernando and San Gabriel Valley, temperatures are expected to hit about a mid eighties
today. Antelope Valleys looking to load of mid nineties today and tonight locally,
and fog blows around sixty pretty much across the Southland. Coming back, We're
gonna have a chat with political analyst Steve Roberts and the ethics and media approach
to covering Donald Trump. You're listening to Wake Up Call with Jennifer Jones Lee
on demand from KFI AM six forty some of the stories we're watching the KFI
twenty four hour news room as we begin the bottom of the hour. President
Biden wants states to help strengthen background checks on gun buyers younger than twenty one
to slow the pace of mass shootings. He made the appeal in a weekend
op ed published in USA Today. Biden wrote that he will call for states
to enact laws that give the federal background check system access to all records that
could prohibit someone under twenty one from purchasing a firearm. Newly announced Twitter CEO
Linda Yacarino's giving her thanks to Elon Musk on the platform. Yacarino tweeted she
has long been inspired by Musk's vision to create a brighter future, adding that
she was excited to build Twitter two point zero. Pretty good tweet from somebody
who just got hired as the CEO. General Motors is announcing the recall of
nearly one million vehicles due to faulty air bags. The recall includes Buick Enclave,
Chevrolet Traverse, and GMC's Acadia vehicles from twenty fourteen through twenty seventeen with
airbags produced by a RC Automotive. Go online and check that. At fifty
we will close wake up call with ABC News consultant John Cohen and check on
the Southern border and how the weekend played out. Under title eight the COVID
immigration policy was Title forty two until Thursday at midnight, and that turned away
migrants at the border. Title eight A is a return to pre COVID policies.
We're going to dig into that in a little bit, but right now
on the liveline, we have ABC political analysts Steve Roberts. Steve teaches media
ethics at George Washington University as well as analyzing for ABC. Good Morning,
Steve, Good Morning Steve. The spin cycle since last week full force,
since CNN allowed Donald Trump to go live on their network instead of covering it
like a horse race, Let's do this. What did CNN and or the
public game from that broadcast. Look, I think they gained a fair amount.
You got a pretty unvarnished in your face. Look at the real Donald
Trump. This is not the script of Donald Trump to tele prompt that Donald
Trump. This was the real Donald Trump, real Donald Trump who called January
sixth the beautiful day, the real Donald Trump who continues to lie about the
election being rigged, real Donald Trump who abuses women and mocks the woman Jane
Carroll who accused him of rape, and one of five million dollars judgment in
the New York courts. So people learned something. And the fact is that
the critics I believe who say that CNN should not have put Donald Trump on
the air are wrong. I agree with Anderson Cooper, the CNN anchor,
who said, look, you can't stay in your silo. You can't ignoring
Donald Trump is not going to make him go away. He represents a major
faction in American politics. But I think CNN made two mistakes. The first
was to put him on live, because he's always going to filibuster. He's
always going to ignore any attempts to check his facts. He's going to run
rough shot over any anchor, as he did over Caitlin Collins, as much
as you try contain him. In the second, in some ways to need
a bigger mistake was putting him on in front of a live studio audience,
which turned it into a campaign rally. There is a model here. The
model is sixty minutes sixty minutes has been the biggest name and TV news for
two generations. They have a great track record. And what do they do.
They interview these people, but they interview them on tape so that they
can't filibuster, they can't wrestle a microphone away from an anchor, and they
never are in front of an audience. So there is a model for here
for how you're fair to Trump. Give him his say, acknowledge that he's
a major political force, but restrain him and check him and balance him.
And the sixty minutes model is a pretty good money. So do you think
the is there for sixty minutes as a brand? Because media Trusted Media is
in the mid twenties nationally speaking, and I'm generalizing, but it's right around
twenty four percent as I understand it from most polls, And that seems like
we don't have Walter Croncat anymore, we don't have an Edward R. Moreau,
we don't even have a Vin Scully anymore. Sixty minutes is the only
place they can go because I would think, as a Devil's advocate argument that
you can edit anything to sound the way you want or not. It's a
matter of trust. Sure you can. It is a matter of trust.
Of course, you can edit if we as professional journalists. And as you
mentioned, I've taught media ethics at George Washington University for thirty years. I
worked with the New York Times for twenty five years. I have some experience
on this. And at the same time, you have to be very fair
to someone like Donald Trump. You have to give him his say. But
we're not just tape recorders. We're not just open mics. We're not just
TV cameras that do blink on and never blink off. The professional role of
journalists is to edit, to produce, to analyze, to comment, to
put in context. Are your listeners at KFI and any other station around the
country, that's what we owe them as as ABC commentators, we owe them
that kind of knowledge, that kind of judgment. But we have to do
it fairly. If we're unfair to Donald Trump, if we edit in ament
a way that the storts or or fabricates his comments, then we're just as
guilty as he is when he lies repeatedly. So the test here of professional
journalists is fairness. And you know, if we get it wrong, we
should be criticized and if we get it right, then we served our listeners
at KFI as well as we can. So I'm not admitting the game as
long as you have. But being a journalist, I noticed that going into
twenty sixteen, I was on the air at another station. At that time,
journalists were uncomfortable with calling things lies that we're obviously lies. That seems
to have changed a little bit. Is that is that more of a normative
that we can accept on an editorial level, and hopefully that will help us
build trust. When we see the ball, we call the ball. You
know, this is a very good point, Jason, And you're right.
Trump has changed the game. You know. I see us a headline in
a mainstream publication today Trump lied yesterday when he said the election was ricked,
right, using the word lie in the headline the lead. I worked for
twenty five years for the New York Times. I covered the White House under
Ronald Regan. I never once, not once, in twenty five years,
used the word lie in the new story, not once. And yet today
you see the word lie in virtually every new story every days when it's about
Trump. So he has changed the game because he has changed the rules.
He never apologizes. He never backs down, he never acknowledges that he's made
a mistake. And so if we don't point out on KFI or anywhere else
the ABC network, which I which I'm on regularly, if we don't point
out these lives were not serving our listeners. Well, that's our job,
that's our obligations to help guide people through this verbiage. But at the same
time, we can't be unfair to Trump. We can't cut him off,
we can't censor him, we can't block him from the airway. We have
to give him his say. And at the same time we have to tell
our listeners this is what you just heard, this is what's true, this
is what's not true, this is what's fair and what's not fair. It's
a heart balance to strike, but that's what we have to aim at as
professional journalist. Thank you for the perspective, mister Roberts, much appreciated.
Sure, anytime, Jason, We've been speaking with ABC political analyst Steve Roberts.
He's a journalist, he's a writer. He's also a professor of media
ethics at George Washington University. Let's get back to some of the stories coming
out of the KFI twenty four our newsroom. A large scale mural has been
completed on both sides of Crowder Avenue under the fifty seven Freeway in Placentia.
The almost eleven thousand square foot mural, called good People Under Our Sun and
Moon, uses pink and purple on the moon side to feature an abstract outline
of a woman sleeping and dreaming. The sun side uses shades of blue with
a touch of yellow, featuring a crouching man holding up the weight of the
world. Placentia is the first city to be funded through Caltran's one point one
billion dollar multi year statewide effort to clean up and beautify roadsides in public spaces.
A sculpture is also coming to the fifty seven off ramps at Orangethorpe in
Placentia, Corbin Carsend k if I News. California's budget has gone from a
record one hundred billion dollars surplus two and estimated thirty one and a half billion
dollar deficit. Governor k Newson released his three hundred and six billion dollar budget
plan Friday. It relies on money from bonds, four hundred and fifty million
dollars from the state's safety net reserve and a renewed tax on managed care program
to support medical The plan also curbs increas for climate and transportation programs. Officials
say there has not been the rush of migrants at the California Mexico border following
the expiration of Title forty two. One agent said a few hundred at a
time show up at the San Ysidro Port of entry, but most are turned
away because they didn't make an appointment on the official customs app. But Felicia
Rangel says migrants can't use the app because it keeps crashing. Also, there
is no internet going on this border town. Internet is very important, or
you can't use the app. Rangel is with a nonprofit that helps migrants waiting
in Mexico. Agents are also enforcing Title eight, which prohibits a person from
seeking asylum in the US unless they tried in another country. A report says
the Massachusetts Air National Guard member accused of leaking classified Pentagon documents was preparing for
a violent race war against the black and Jewish people. The Washington Post says
the government interviewed several of Jack Tichera's close friends and reviewed unpublished, unpublished videos
and chatlogs to Shara was charged last month with leak secret Pentagon documents. When
we come back, ABC News consultant John Cohen's going to join us for a
Monday morning check on the Southern border and just how that transition from title forty
two to title eight is going. You're listening to Wake Up Call with Jennifer
Jones Lee on demand from KFI Am six forty. My name is Jason Middleton.
I'm in all week for Jennifer Jones Lee coming up. Of course,
we have a handle on the news, but first, here are some stories
coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Community members in Buffalo,
New York are marking the one year anniversary of a racially motivated mass shooting that
left ten black people dead. The victims were honored yesterday with a moment of
silence and a church bell chiming at tops Friendly Market. General Motors is announcing
the recall of nearly one million vehicles due to faulty airbags. The recall includes
Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, and GMC AKAD vehicles from twenty fourteen through twenty
seventeen. Airbags produced by AARC Automotive are the ones in question. Four teams
are left in the NBA playoffs. The Lakers play the Nuggets tomorrow night,
and the Boston Celtics and the Miami Heat start their conference finals series on Wednesday.
A man from Northridge says he's offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward for
the arrests of whoever tried to shoot him outside his home. Security video shows
the man pull into his driveway Friday, then a guy with a gun runs
toward him. The homeowner took off, and the shooter hopped into the backseat
of another car. The man being chased says the shooter got off at least
four rounds before he was able to get away. President President Biden says white
supremacy is the most dangerous terrorist threat to America. He made the comment Saturday
in a speech to graduating students at Howard University, which is a historically black
college. Got a constant push and pull for more than two hundred and forty
years between the best of us, the American idea that we're all created an
eagle on the worst of us. A harsh reality rais has long torn us
apart. He followed up by telling the audience he was not just saying that
because he was at a black school. Critics accused Biden of using the speech
to inflame racial tensions in the United States. Five fifty one. On your
wake Up Call this morning, we have John Cohen on the line. John
is an ABC News analyst. Okay, after three years of being turned away
at the border under title forty two, migrants can now seek a more normal
style asylum process. We checked on the border last week, John, and
there was not a crush of migrants. What did you see this weekend and
what do you see now? Well, over the weekend, we actually saw
a decrease of people approaching the border, but just some contacts for what that
we were saying. Going back to the Trump administration twenty eighteen twenty nineteen timeframe,
we started seeing people from across the world relocate to Central Central America,
South America, and Mexico. They're fleeing violence and economic conditions, in public
health conditions, and their goal was to come to the United States. Over
the last five six years, that population of people has grown, and it's
grown to be in the millions, and a large chunk of those people want
to come to the United States. So we started seeing an early last week
a significant increase in the number of people presenting at the southern border and seeking
asylum or seeking entry into the United States. Some estimates are it was as
high as ten to twelve thousand. The concern was that once Title forty two
was lifted, those numbers were to concrease even further, and those numbers far
surpassed the abilities of CBP to handle that number of people. But what in
fact happened is and from what I've heard thus far, it's a combination of
new policies put in place regarding asylum as well as weather conditions. The numbers
actually dropped significantly over the weekend. Some estimates are as much as fifty percent.
So do you think the preparation from Homeland Security helped and the signaling towards
those who would seek asylum is also working. Yeah, you know, that's
a really good question. I Mean, one of the things that we saw
the Department of Homeland Security was a very forceful, clear message intended to those
who may be seeking to come to the United States. And that's important because
what we've experienced over the last several years is that the smugglers, the human
smugglers they're using disinformation, they're using social media, you know, making up
things and sharing that with those those people who may be intending to come here,
saying it's open season, the doors are open. Just show up at
the border, you'll be allowed in. So I think it was really important
that the Secretary was as forceful as that said. Those millions of people are
still there, and you know, just for context, CVP can handle about
fourteen hundred to thirty five hundred encounters at the southern border a day. Even
six to eight thousand exceeds their resources. So if we start seeing those numbers
go back up, which is likely, they're going to be our resource issue.
So we have a little bit of breathing room. But this lull may
not be permanent, and it's time for Congress and others to sort of act
at the resource is there, clear up what's going what's wrong with our immigration
rules, and then hopefully we that are prepared to deal with the situation.
We're speaking with ABC News analyst John Coe, and John also worked at homand
Security for a while, and I'm going to circle back on that in just
a second. You mentioned social media right there. The Title eight was passed
in nineteen forty, not a lot of social media going on there unless it
was having at the corner store. Any progress on the sketchy app that immigrants
are being asked to use right now or would be immigrants asked to use.
Yeah, So CVP has developed an app that is supposed to be used by
though it's one of the rules that if you're going to try to come to
the Southern border and seek asylum, you have to first make an appointment through
the app. There's you know, it's always difficult rolling out a new app,
but and there's been some issues with this one, but it is working.
The bigger problem is that, you know, you can schedule an appointment.
You can use an app to schedule an appointment, but if there aren't
people who can adjudicate your application, then the app is only a limited value.
And that's that's the problem. We just don't have enough adjudicators. And
right now I'm hearing it could take you know, as you try to make
your appointment for that initial interview or a court date, you could be looking
three four years down the road. So the question is what do you do
with these people? Um, they're going through the legal process and it's a
process that they are allowed to go through by international law, but there's just
no room to house them. John, as I understand it, you served
as an under Secretary of Intelligence at Homeland for a period. Can you give
us a peak behind the curtain at how the department coordinates these kind of efforts.
This is a this is a huge push for a proactive program. Yeah,
real quickly. I mean it's it's there's a you know, the secretarial
coordinate a series of meetings internally with CDP, with Immigrations and Customers Enforcement ICE,
with the Intelligence Division, which is what I ran. I had a
whole unit that looked at um, you know, look at that intelligence related
issues having to do with mass migratory movements. Um. But the coordination that
really important as the interagency coordination. So the White House will pull together the
Defense Department, the Justice Department, the Health and Human Services DHS, and
others so that the federal government as a whole can coordinate operational planning for these
issues. And then there's the coordination with state and local governments that should be
occurring and with non government agencies as well. John, thank you for that
three sixty approach. We appreciate your time this morning, talk to you soon.
We've been speaking with ABC News analyst and former Under Secretary of Intelligence at
Homeland Security, John Cohen. You've been listening to your Wakeup Call with Me,
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