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Hey, it's Jennifer Jones Lee.
You're listening to KFI, a M six

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forty wake up call on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. My name is Jason

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Middleton. This is your wake up
call. Like I said, Monday,

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May fifteenth, Mother's Day yesterday,
if you celebrate, Hope it went well.

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I was talking to my mom a
little bit and she saw the Jane

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Fonda movie. I think that that
was probably She's not unique in that,

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but I'm glad that she got out
and did some stuff over the weekend.

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Also, Google, Google had its
big conference last week, its Developer Conference

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and artificial intelligence, which has been
pretty much every other headline since about January.

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Google kicked that ball down the road
pretty hard and it looks like investors

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are responding. So today Open ai
is the name of that and it's CEO

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is Sam Altman. He's going to
be on Capitol Hill today to talk about

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AI in the future, not just
for business, but for the world in

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general. The chat GPT is what
Microsoft partnered with on its bing search engine.

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Google wanted to respond, and it
did respond. Open ai is one

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of the fastest growing websites on the
planet right now, a billion unique visitors

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a month, so everybody's kind of
interested in it, so we're keeping it

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on our radar pretty hard. Later
this hour, we have several ongoing news

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topics this week to discuss with live
guests as well. But here's a couple

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of quick headlines as we get going
this morning. That looming deadline for the

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US debt default is called X Day, and as it gets closer, negotiators

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on both sides seem more optimistic,
at least publicly, that a deal could

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be reached in time. That means
the government needs to be able to pay

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its debts, and the cornerstone of
the global economy is the twenty four trillion

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dollar US bond market, so that's
why that could rattle markets, and it

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already started last week and it's going
to continue on right now. The X

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day seems to be June one.
That could fluctuate a little bit depending on

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how tax receipts come in from May
as well, So there's that We're going

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to have more on that with somebody
live this hour or two on wake Up

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Call. President Biden wants states to
help strengthen background checks on gun buyers younger

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than twenty one in order to slow
the pace of mass shootings. He made

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the appeal in a weekend op ed
in USA today. And the NBA playoffs

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continue tomorrow. The Lakers play the
Nuggets tomorrow night, and then Wednesday,

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the Celtics play the Heat and the
winners of those series are going to meet

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for the championship. And if you're
an NBA fan, you got to see

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about half a basketball game yesterday because
the Sixers just folded against against the Boston

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Celtics. And in just a few
minutes, we're gonna talk with ABC's Eric

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Katurski. The anniversary of the mass
shooting and killings in Buffalo, New York,

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came and went yesterday. We will
talk with Aaron about how Buffalo has

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responded over the past year. That's
when ten were shot dead at a supermarket

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there. Let's start with a couple
of stories coming out of the KFI twenty

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four hour newsroom. Investigators are trying
to figure out what caused a crash on

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the ten Freeway in Riverside County.
They killed three members of a family,

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including two young girls. The family
was in an suv that collided with a

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tesla yesterday. The driver of the
suv lost control, hit the center divider

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and flipped over. Six people were
ejected. The HP says the family may

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not have been wearing seatbelts. Hundreds
of hospital workers in Thousand Oaks could soon

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walk off the job. The union
that represents employees at Los Robles Regional Medical

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Center voted a strike for five days
starting the twenty second of this month.

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Service Employees International Union United Healthcare Workers
West or sciu UHW says that the only

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way to avert this strike is if
an agreement has reached in negotiations. Workers

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in sciu UHW range from ear tech
to food service employees. One worker says

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that the biggest problem is a shortage
of workers. Negotiations are scheduled this week,

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and hospital officials say that this plan
strike is reckless and unnecessary. Andrew

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Caravella at KFI News a heads up
for anyone headed to us Comity In National

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Park this week. Three campgrounds are
closing this morning due to the threat of

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flooding. As of two weeks ago, the park had received more than double

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the average amount of snowfall for this
time of year. Officials say the combination

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of hot weather and abundant snow well
that means the Merced River may remain above

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floodstage for some time. There is
an update on those closures expected later today.

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In just a couple of minutes,
we're gonna check in on the debts.

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Oh, we're gonna check in with
Aaron Katurski and discuss the anniversary of

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the killings last year in Buffalo,
New York. And we are back at

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six minutes after five o'clock and on
our wake up call, we have ABC

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Senior investigative reporter Eron Katurski. A
year ago yesterday, Aaron ten people gunned

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down in a neighborhood east of Buffalo, New York. How does Buffalo mark,

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the university mark the anniversary? So
there was a ceremony at the top

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supermarket that came under fire, that
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that has all been refurbished and reopened, and you know, a real focal

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point for that community as it always
was, but there was a real determination

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express to not have the the massacre
and it's racist underpinning to be sort of

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the defining moment for the neighborhood.
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love overheight kind of message, and
I think that it's particularly important for that

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community and especially at that store.
There wasn't a lot going on retail wise

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in that neighborhood. It was a
big deal and the supermarket opened, it

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had become a place that was,
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the community as opposed to just the
place of I ABox of Sereal and and

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so there was this sort of nice
message of of hope and healing and love,

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even though I think the pain of
the day still prevails, especially for

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those who lost loved ones and who
have endured the guilty plea of the shooter

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and more federal charges pending, and
it's just been it's been an ordeal over

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the last year for the FA.
It seems like your coverage and some of

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the other coverage as well, indicates
that some in the neighborhood there are concerned

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that the cameras are only there or
the reporters only there at certain times.

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Has there been any forward progress politically
speaking or socially speaking when it comes to

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East Buffalo in this situation, I
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seem to be a recognition that there
was a you know, of what motivated

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this, and of a determination to
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possible, but politically, look,
there's there's nothing going on in the country

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that would legislatively anyway to do anything
to curtail these shootings. They've only increased

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in frequency. We're going to celebrate, not celebrate, sorry, mark the

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year since Uvaldi what in another week, and then it'll be Highland Park after

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that, And in the meantime there's
going to be a bunch more mass shootings.

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So over the weekend the President hold
for gun control measures that are probably

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not going anywhere. And you know, I think that the Attorney General of

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the state, along with the Attorney
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do things, little bits and pieces, to try and take on the gun

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industry. But it shows you the
limits to what, you know, a

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public policy can do in a country
that just has no appetite to curtailed gun

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ownership or gun sales. Yeah,
you mentioned the bits and pieces. One

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of the incremental things that came out
of this shooting was a lawsuit against the

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maker of the I believe is a
gun clip attachment that was supposed to make

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Yeah, this is it's a locking
mechanism made by Mean Arms. They're a

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company in Georgia, and they make
a device it's like twenty bucks to lock

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the magazine into place on a rifle, and it made the rifle locata to

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own and purchase in New York.
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Peyton Gendrin modified it and took the
lock off and made it, you know,

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put in a high capacity magazine that
he used in the massacre. And

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the the lawsuit says that the company
makes this locking mechanism basically for the user

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or take it off, and they
give you instructions for how to um,

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you know, for how to remove
the lock on the packaging. So the

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the Attorney General's lawsuit accuses mean Arms
of aiding and abetting Peyton Gendron's ownership of

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the weapon. UM. It's a
bit of a novel legal approach, but

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they're, you know, they're trying
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company accountable here, even though you
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At the top of our discussion,
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at the supermarket that was unique in
the East Buffalo neighborhood. It was a

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food desert because that that market had
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Has that been addressed it all.
I know that market is reopened, but

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how did they how did they address
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of the shooting was companies coming in
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mobilized during the months when the store
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other companies donated, and community members
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pass out food as best they could. But that's why the store, I

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think was such an important symbolic target, and maybe Payton Gender knew it as

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he was doing his research and casing
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food desert until that market opened,
and there was never a thought by the

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way that it was going to close
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to reopen. They refurbished it,
reopened a couple of months ago. People

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were clearly happy to have it back. And I think that that's what made

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the shooting even more insidious than just
the ten lives lost. That it was

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that it shows the shooter shows a
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neighborhood. Aaron, thank you for
your coverage and I appreciate your time,

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Stealer, ABC senior investigative reporter Aaron
could Tursky there in Buffalo, New York.

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Let's get back to some of the
stories coming out of the KFI twenty

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four hour news room. Seven CHP
officers are due in court in LA for

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the death of a man from Burbank
who was restrained so a nurse could get

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a blood sample. The man had
been stopped on the five Freeway in twenty

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twenty and refused a DUI test.
The CHP officers are charged with manslaughter and

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assault under the authority under the color
of authority. The nurse is charged with

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involuntary manslaughter. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro
Mayorcis says fewer migrants have been crossing than

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expected following the end of Title forty
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days, the United States Border Patrol
has seen an approximately fifty percent drop in

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the number of people encountered at our
southern border. That under new rules,

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non Mexican migrants looking for asylum in
the US first have to show proof they've

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and denied protection from a country they
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border. They also have to use
a federal app to make an appointment.

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Migrants admitted into the US last week
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as twenty thirty two and twenty thirty
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The Homeland Security Secretary majorcas says that
the app wait time is still building.

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President Biden is planning to meet with
Congressional leaders again this week talk about the

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raising that debt ceiling. ABC's Elizabeth
Schultz says the meeting is in for a

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set for tomorrow, the day before
Biden goes to Japan for the G seventh

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Summit. There are less than three
weeks now for negotiators the White House and

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leaders of Congress to come to some
sort of agreement to essentially raise the debt

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limit that would allow the government to
keep on paying its bills as usual.

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Administration officials have warned that the government
could default on its debts if the spending

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limit is not raised by June first. President Biden told reporters yesterday he's opt

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mystic about a deal to avert the
US debt default. Of course, he's

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always pretty much optimistic. When we
come back, it's checkbook time for the

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government. How close is the US
two defaulting on those obligations. One of

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the checks that needs written covers the
interest on government bonds. I mentioned that's

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a twenty four trillion dollar market.
That is the benchmark of the world economy.

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You're listening to Wake Up Call with
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AM six forty. Here's some of
your stories. We're watching the KFI twenty

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four hour newsroom. Homeland Security Secretary
Alejandro Majorcas says the US Border Patrol has

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experienced a fifty percent drop in encounter
since title forty two ended Thursday at midnight.

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Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenski says an upcoming
military counter offensive is aimed at freeing

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occupied territory in his nation. Speaking
in Berlin yesterday, Zelenski said, we

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do not attack Russian territory. We
liberate our own legitimate territory. Guardians of

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the Galaxy continues to rock the box
office. The latest edition of the space

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traveling It's called a comedy adventure franchise, earned sixty and a half million dollars

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in its second weekend of release in
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right, there was Super Mario Brothers
ABC. Steve Roberts is going to join

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us live later. The topic was
Steve, this morning is going to be

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Donald Trump, specifically, why,
where, and how the media covers Donald

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Trump. Of course, he is
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prone to lying. He's also good
for ratings. So we're going to unpack

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that dynamic with Steve Roberts. But
right now we have ABC's White House correspondent

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m Win on the line to talk
debt ceiling, the looming X day and

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the day that's the day the US
could default on its obligations to pay its

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bills. Good morning, m Good
morning Jason. Good to be here.

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How are negotiations teed up for this
work week? As we get started for

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this work week. While we have
heard from President Fighting, he says they're

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working at a time whereas he and
congressional leaders will meet for the second time.

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He believes it's going to be on
Tuesday. That's still his plan to

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leave for the g seventh summit on
Wednesday. Remember, this would be the

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second meeting on the issue with top
congressional leaders, and they all met for

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the first time last Tuesday. They
were supposed to meet on Friday, but

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that was postponed so that these staff
global talks could continue. We heard from

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administration officials saying that these aids who
have been talking about the debt limit,

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these talks were constructive and serious this
weekend. But it's still not clear if

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the White House Republicans are any closer
to a deal to this point. Okay,

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so their constructive talks off camera,
and you mentioned that Friday's meeting was

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postponed. Is happening Tuesday? So
in between are the Sunday news shows.

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Anything happened publicly or in the media
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things one way or another. So
there have been talks about a short term

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debt limit as an option, you
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to kick the can down the curb. But we did hear from the National

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Economic Council Director Lyle Brainer who kind
of dismissed that despite the President Peaslee suggesting

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that it could be considered. Brainer
just that a short term deal is not

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a fix. So this means they
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through for the next couple of weeks. But remember, even if they were

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a formal meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, that would be a good sign sense.

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The last one was postponed because of
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with ABC White House correspondent, and
when so Biden was veep back in the

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Obama administration, we kind of brushed
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we did in twenty eleven. In
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feel any different to you? I
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we have never defaulted on the debt. Could it happen this time?

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much like now, we're using a
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spending cuts. The stock markets were
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go before the US would have defaulted
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and Democrats agreed on the bill and
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by nearly the same amount. Could
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possible that the nation could default.
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we know for sure between Democrats and
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to that point. They don't want
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defaults, because a lot could happen
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absolutely, And I know you're a
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at if past is prologue, Mitch
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playing this time around. Why is
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McConnell. He has said he's going
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whatever negotiations he wants. And it's
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US narrowly avoid a default. He's
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issues with President Biden, but this
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says that basically any proposal that originates
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will be at a standoff. And
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of strategy to keep Democratic Leader Chuck
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fun to watch this week in a
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House correspondent m when and I'm sure
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you for your time this morning,
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back to some of the stories coming
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news room. Officials say there has
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California Mexico border as predicted. In
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pretty quiet. The COVID Related Health
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and by Friday and Saturday there were
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pedestrian gates at the same useed report
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them were turned away because they didn't
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immigration hearing. The FEDS had created
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but some waiting in Tijuana say the
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has also ordered the enforcement of Title
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in the US unless they already tried
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Firefighters in industry have rescued a person
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was hit by a train. The
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crash late Saturday. The person inside
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one was hurt in the collisions.
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recognition technology at sixteen airports across the
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technology is an effort to more accurately
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every day. The agency says passengers
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about questions of bias in facial recognition
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want to opt out. Former La
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a couple of months after she announced
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at the state level in nineteen eighty
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ninety one. She was on the
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announced her death death yesterday. She
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Kitakalmasnaya. The presidential election in Turkey
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Turkish president does not have enough votes
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twenty year rule could be on the
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early results, but that's subsided as
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President Erdwan has told supporters he still
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that he would also welcome a runoff. The UK has promised more missiles in

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drones to Ukraine as President President Vlodomir
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and fog blows around sixty pretty much
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gonna have a chat with political analyst
Steve Roberts and the ethics and media approach

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to covering Donald Trump. You're listening
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on demand from KFI AM six forty
some of the stories we're watching the KFI

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twenty four hour news room as we
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Biden wants states to help strengthen background
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to slow the pace of mass shootings. He made the appeal in a weekend

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op ed published in USA Today.
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to enact laws that give the federal
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could prohibit someone under twenty one from
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Linda Yacarino's giving her thanks to Elon
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has long been inspired by Musk's vision
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she was excited to build Twitter two
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who just got hired as the CEO. General Motors is announcing the recall of

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nearly one million vehicles due to faulty
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Chevrolet Traverse, and GMC's Acadia vehicles
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airbags produced by a RC Automotive.
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we will close wake up call with
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the Southern border and how the weekend
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immigration policy was Title forty two until
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migrants at the border. Title eight
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on the liveline, we have ABC
political analysts Steve Roberts. Steve teaches media

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ethics at George Washington University as well
as analyzing for ABC. Good Morning,

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Steve, Good Morning Steve. The
spin cycle since last week full force,

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since CNN allowed Donald Trump to go
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like a horse race, Let's do
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public game from that broadcast. Look, I think they gained a fair amount.

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You got a pretty unvarnished in your
face. Look at the real Donald

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Trump. This is not the script
of Donald Trump to tele prompt that Donald

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Trump. This was the real Donald
Trump, real Donald Trump who called January

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sixth the beautiful day, the real
Donald Trump who continues to lie about the

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election being rigged, real Donald Trump
who abuses women and mocks the woman Jane

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Carroll who accused him of rape,
and one of five million dollars judgment in

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the New York courts. So people
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the critics I believe who say that
CNN should not have put Donald Trump on

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the air are wrong. I agree
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who said, look, you can't
stay in your silo. You can't ignoring

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Donald Trump is not going to make
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faction in American politics. But I
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was to put him on live,
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always going to ignore any attempts to
check his facts. He's going to run

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rough shot over any anchor, as
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as you try contain him. In
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a bigger mistake was putting him on
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which turned it into a campaign rally. There is a model here. The

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model is sixty minutes sixty minutes has
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two generations. They have a great
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They interview these people, but they
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can't filibuster, they can't wrestle a
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never are in front of an audience. So there is a model for here

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for how you're fair to Trump.
Give him his say, acknowledge that he's

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a major political force, but restrain
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And the sixty minutes model is a
pretty good money. So do you think

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the is there for sixty minutes as
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in the mid twenties nationally speaking,
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twenty four percent as I understand it
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we don't have Walter Croncat anymore,
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we don't even have a Vin Scully
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place they can go because I would
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you can edit anything to sound the
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matter of trust. Sure you can. It is a matter of trust.

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Of course, you can edit if
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mentioned, I've taught media ethics at
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worked with the New York Times for
twenty five years. I have some experience

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on this. And at the same
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to someone like Donald Trump. You
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we're not just tape recorders. We're
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TV cameras that do blink on and
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journalists is to edit, to produce, to analyze, to comment, to

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put in context. Are your listeners
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country, that's what we owe them
as as ABC commentators, we owe them

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that kind of knowledge, that kind
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it fairly. If we're unfair to
Donald Trump, if we edit in ament

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a way that the storts or or
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guilty as he is when he lies
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journalists is fairness. And you know, if we get it wrong, we

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should be criticized and if we get
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at KFI as well as we can. So I'm not admitting the game as

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long as you have. But being
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twenty sixteen, I was on the
air at another station. At that time,

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journalists were uncomfortable with calling things lies
that we're obviously lies. That seems

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to have changed a little bit.
Is that is that more of a normative

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that we can accept on an editorial
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build trust. When we see the
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know, this is a very good
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Trump has changed the game. You
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a mainstream publication today Trump lied yesterday
when he said the election was ricked,

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right, using the word lie in
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twenty five years for the New York
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Ronald Regan. I never once,
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used the word lie in the new
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you see the word lie in virtually
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Trump. So he has changed the
game because he has changed the rules.

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He never apologizes. He never backs
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a mistake. And so if we
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the ABC network, which I which
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out these lives were not serving our
listeners. Well, that's our job,

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that's our obligations to help guide people
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time, we can't be unfair to
Trump. We can't cut him off,

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we can't censor him, we can't
block him from the airway. We have

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to give him his say. And
at the same time we have to tell

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our listeners this is what you just
heard, this is what's true, this

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is what's not true, this is
what's fair and what's not fair. It's

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a heart balance to strike, but
that's what we have to aim at as

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professional journalist. Thank you for the
perspective, mister Roberts, much appreciated.

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Sure, anytime, Jason, We've
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He's a journalist, he's a writer. He's also a professor of media

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ethics at George Washington University. Let's
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out of the KFI twenty four our
newsroom. A large scale mural has been

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completed on both sides of Crowder Avenue
under the fifty seven Freeway in Placentia.

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The almost eleven thousand square foot mural, called good People Under Our Sun and

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Moon, uses pink and purple on
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of a woman sleeping and dreaming.
The sun side uses shades of blue with

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a touch of yellow, featuring a
crouching man holding up the weight of the

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world. Placentia is the first city
to be funded through Caltran's one point one

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billion dollar multi year statewide effort to
clean up and beautify roadsides in public spaces.

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A sculpture is also coming to the
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Placentia, Corbin Carsend k if I
News. California's budget has gone from a

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record one hundred billion dollars surplus two
and estimated thirty one and a half billion

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dollar deficit. Governor k Newson released
his three hundred and six billion dollar budget

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plan Friday. It relies on money
from bonds, four hundred and fifty million

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dollars from the state's safety net reserve
and a renewed tax on managed care program

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to support medical The plan also curbs
increas for climate and transportation programs. Officials

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say there has not been the rush
of migrants at the California Mexico border following

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the expiration of Title forty two.
One agent said a few hundred at a

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time show up at the San Ysidro
Port of entry, but most are turned

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away because they didn't make an appointment
on the official customs app. But Felicia

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Rangel says migrants can't use the app
because it keeps crashing. Also, there

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is no internet going on this border
town. Internet is very important, or

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you can't use the app. Rangel
is with a nonprofit that helps migrants waiting

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in Mexico. Agents are also enforcing
Title eight, which prohibits a person from

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seeking asylum in the US unless they
tried in another country. A report says

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the Massachusetts Air National Guard member accused
of leaking classified Pentagon documents was preparing for

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a violent race war against the black
and Jewish people. The Washington Post says

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the government interviewed several of Jack Tichera's
close friends and reviewed unpublished, unpublished videos

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and chatlogs to Shara was charged last
month with leak secret Pentagon documents. When

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we come back, ABC News consultant
John Cohen's going to join us for a

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Monday morning check on the Southern border
and just how that transition from title forty

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two to title eight is going.
You're listening to Wake Up Call with Jennifer

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Jones Lee on demand from KFI Am
six forty. My name is Jason Middleton.

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I'm in all week for Jennifer Jones
Lee coming up. Of course,

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we have a handle on the news, but first, here are some stories

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coming out of the KFI twenty four
hour newsroom. Community members in Buffalo,

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New York are marking the one year
anniversary of a racially motivated mass shooting that

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left ten black people dead. The
victims were honored yesterday with a moment of

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silence and a church bell chiming at
tops Friendly Market. General Motors is announcing

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the recall of nearly one million vehicles
due to faulty airbags. The recall includes

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Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, and
GMC AKAD vehicles from twenty fourteen through twenty

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seventeen. Airbags produced by AARC Automotive
are the ones in question. Four teams

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are left in the NBA playoffs.
The Lakers play the Nuggets tomorrow night,

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and the Boston Celtics and the Miami
Heat start their conference finals series on Wednesday.

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A man from Northridge says he's offering
a one hundred thousand dollars reward for

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the arrests of whoever tried to shoot
him outside his home. Security video shows

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the man pull into his driveway Friday, then a guy with a gun runs

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toward him. The homeowner took off, and the shooter hopped into the backseat

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of another car. The man being
chased says the shooter got off at least

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four rounds before he was able to
get away. President President Biden says white

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supremacy is the most dangerous terrorist threat
to America. He made the comment Saturday

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in a speech to graduating students at
Howard University, which is a historically black

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college. Got a constant push and
pull for more than two hundred and forty

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years between the best of us,
the American idea that we're all created an

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eagle on the worst of us.
A harsh reality rais has long torn us

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apart. He followed up by telling
the audience he was not just saying that

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because he was at a black school. Critics accused Biden of using the speech

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to inflame racial tensions in the United
States. Five fifty one. On your

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wake Up Call this morning, we
have John Cohen on the line. John

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is an ABC News analyst. Okay, after three years of being turned away

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at the border under title forty two, migrants can now seek a more normal

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style asylum process. We checked on
the border last week, John, and

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there was not a crush of migrants. What did you see this weekend and

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what do you see now? Well, over the weekend, we actually saw

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a decrease of people approaching the border, but just some contacts for what that

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we were saying. Going back to
the Trump administration twenty eighteen twenty nineteen timeframe,

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we started seeing people from across the
world relocate to Central Central America,

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South America, and Mexico. They're
fleeing violence and economic conditions, in public

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health conditions, and their goal was
to come to the United States. Over

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the last five six years, that
population of people has grown, and it's

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grown to be in the millions,
and a large chunk of those people want

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to come to the United States.
So we started seeing an early last week

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a significant increase in the number of
people presenting at the southern border and seeking

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asylum or seeking entry into the United
States. Some estimates are it was as

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high as ten to twelve thousand.
The concern was that once Title forty two

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was lifted, those numbers were to
concrease even further, and those numbers far

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surpassed the abilities of CBP to handle
that number of people. But what in

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fact happened is and from what I've
heard thus far, it's a combination of

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new policies put in place regarding asylum
as well as weather conditions. The numbers

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actually dropped significantly over the weekend.
Some estimates are as much as fifty percent.

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So do you think the preparation from
Homeland Security helped and the signaling towards

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those who would seek asylum is also
working. Yeah, you know, that's

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a really good question. I Mean, one of the things that we saw

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the Department of Homeland Security was a
very forceful, clear message intended to those

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who may be seeking to come to
the United States. And that's important because

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what we've experienced over the last several
years is that the smugglers, the human

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smugglers they're using disinformation, they're using
social media, you know, making up

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things and sharing that with those those
people who may be intending to come here,

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saying it's open season, the doors
are open. Just show up at

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the border, you'll be allowed in. So I think it was really important

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that the Secretary was as forceful as
that said. Those millions of people are

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still there, and you know,
just for context, CVP can handle about

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fourteen hundred to thirty five hundred encounters
at the southern border a day. Even

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six to eight thousand exceeds their resources. So if we start seeing those numbers

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go back up, which is likely, they're going to be our resource issue.

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So we have a little bit of
breathing room. But this lull may

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not be permanent, and it's time
for Congress and others to sort of act

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at the resource is there, clear
up what's going what's wrong with our immigration

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rules, and then hopefully we that
are prepared to deal with the situation.

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We're speaking with ABC News analyst John
Coe, and John also worked at homand

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Security for a while, and I'm
going to circle back on that in just

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a second. You mentioned social media
right there. The Title eight was passed

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in nineteen forty, not a lot
of social media going on there unless it

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was having at the corner store.
Any progress on the sketchy app that immigrants

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are being asked to use right now
or would be immigrants asked to use.

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Yeah, So CVP has developed an
app that is supposed to be used by

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though it's one of the rules that
if you're going to try to come to

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the Southern border and seek asylum,
you have to first make an appointment through

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the app. There's you know,
it's always difficult rolling out a new app,

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but and there's been some issues with
this one, but it is working.

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The bigger problem is that, you
know, you can schedule an appointment.

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You can use an app to schedule
an appointment, but if there aren't

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people who can adjudicate your application,
then the app is only a limited value.

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And that's that's the problem. We
just don't have enough adjudicators. And

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right now I'm hearing it could take
you know, as you try to make

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your appointment for that initial interview or
a court date, you could be looking

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three four years down the road.
So the question is what do you do

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with these people? Um, they're
going through the legal process and it's a

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process that they are allowed to go
through by international law, but there's just

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no room to house them. John, as I understand it, you served

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as an under Secretary of Intelligence at
Homeland for a period. Can you give

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us a peak behind the curtain at
how the department coordinates these kind of efforts.

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This is a this is a huge
push for a proactive program. Yeah,

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real quickly. I mean it's it's
there's a you know, the secretarial

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coordinate a series of meetings internally with
CDP, with Immigrations and Customers Enforcement ICE,

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with the Intelligence Division, which is
what I ran. I had a

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whole unit that looked at um,
you know, look at that intelligence related

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issues having to do with mass migratory
movements. Um. But the coordination that

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really important as the interagency coordination.
So the White House will pull together the

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Defense Department, the Justice Department,
the Health and Human Services DHS, and

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others so that the federal government as
a whole can coordinate operational planning for these

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issues. And then there's the coordination
with state and local governments that should be

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occurring and with non government agencies as
well. John, thank you for that

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three sixty approach. We appreciate your
time this morning, talk to you soon.

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We've been speaking with ABC News analyst
and former Under Secretary of Intelligence at

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Homeland Security, John Cohen. You've
been listening to your Wakeup Call with Me,

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Jennifer Jones Lee, and you can
always her wake Up Call Fibe to

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