WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:08.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagonzal Fox Sports fourteen fifty 2 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:14.960 powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions Kati z R two 3 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.960 SAA at iHeartRadio Station. Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:22.079 to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Riverta. 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:26.960 He's Jagan's Us. Got our guy Kevin in today with Eleon on the 6 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:32.799 substitution rotation we have It's bring your Kids to Work days Worthday, Bring your 7 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:37.159 kids to Workday a Leon. I'm more commonly known as Jeff Jeff there you 8 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:38.960 switch you here to call him? Yea. I think we're gonna just call 9 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:43.479 him Jeff. Okay, Jeff, much easier calling me. You can call 10 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.320 me. Just don't call me late to dinner exactly. Okay, guys, 11 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.679 Hey Tuesday. We have a pretty good show today. I think we do 12 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.560 pull the rabbit out of our whatever. You know, Terry Francon has been 13 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:56.640 a good friend of the show. You know, we get him when just 14 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.719 a third time we just called him and he says, yeah, ill do 15 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:00.159 it, and he does it. So Kerry frank Cone is going to be 16 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:04.159 joining us here at about three twenty. He's, uh, you know, 17 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.519 he's sort of retired. I've been reading uh, you know, a bunch 18 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:12.280 of articles he's he says, he's not actually totally retired. He's still probably 19 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:15.959 gonna be doing some stuff with the with the with the Guardians. But for 20 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.280 now, I think he's, you know, he's you know, he's he's 21 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.040 had continuing health issues, so I think he's going to make sure that he, 22 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.439 uh, you know, gets all that taken care of. But I 23 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.760 just read a story that he's he's making himself available to the new manager at 24 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.439 Cleveland, you know, sort of on an as needed basis. Well, 25 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.599 well, what are you doing? Cool? Well, we do know that 26 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.519 he's in Tucson and he's enjoying. The weather was nice, eighty two degrees 27 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.680 beautiful today. You look like you're for camping or something. You know, 28 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:49.400 I was chilly, imber, Look on, do you even know who I'm 29 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:56.239 talking about? Documentary? Yeah? Okay, cool, Okay, we got 30 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.159 anybody want to call? Please do We'll pay attention to the lines. Yesterday 31 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:00.840 we didn't do it so well. We were bad, well, you know 32 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:02.879 what, we were bad in a lot of respects. Yesterday we we we 33 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.759 kept we kept a guest waiting. You know, we were just we were 34 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.680 terrible. Yeah, it's okay. We survived another day. Today is a 35 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.960 new day. Yeah, five, two, four, one forty. Give 36 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:15.919 us a call. If you haven't ever called us, give us a call. 37 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.199 We'd like to hear from you. Yeah, let us know what you 38 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.400 think of our crazy show. And we're gonna make sure we do call Terry 39 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.319 Terry when we're supposed to Terry, did you already give him the old I 40 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:29.039 just tasted him and he said he's ready to go. Okay, great, 41 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.319 great, So see what happens. And then we have on the second hour, 42 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:35.759 who we are Alena Playo. Haven't you know she's been here five years 43 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.120 and this is the first time we're getting her on the show. So okay, 44 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.479 I think we're kind of jerks about this. But uh uh you know, 45 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:44.759 they got a huge game tomorrow. I think Texas is right, yeah, 46 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:46.960 fifth, I believe right, I mean coming in ranked fifth tomorrow. 47 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.919 Uh, to players on a here, it's a it's a it's a second 48 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.520 game of a home and home. Uh and and so uh, you know, 49 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.039 trying the women's team is trying to get a lot of Hike for this 50 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.840 game. It's a big game for them, Uh, you know, an 51 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.479 opportunity to make some Hey, you know, they they're winning games, they've 52 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.800 got a nice record, but they haven't looked great. And I'll just say 53 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:13.520 that they haven't looked great, but you never know, right They they dominated 54 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.439 San Diego last week. Uh. And I said on the show that defensively 55 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:21.879 they were unbearable. I mean, they just handcuffed San Diego. But I 56 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.080 just offensively, you know, I got some questions about this, So we'll 57 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:28.560 find out tomorrow. Texas is ten and oh coming in coming in to McHale 58 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.680 tomorrow. And Texas has that long time reputation. It hadn't it hadn't really 59 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.639 been in Texas that we've known of over the last few years. But now 60 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.560 it's coming back right right, you know. But Arizona's gotta they gotta they 61 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.479 got us. They look they got to work cut out for them. In 62 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.240 the in the PAC twelve u c l A's ranked second, USC is sixth, 63 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:52.360 Colorado was eighth, Stanford is ninth, Utah, Utah is eleven. 64 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:54.919 Well in the in the top twenty five. Yeah, yeah, no, 65 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:59.439 I that's that's crazy. And yeah, there's a lot of great players in 66 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.639 the Pac twelve. Yeah. I just saw one from Utah, Utah. 67 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:03.479 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was actually looking that up right now. 68 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.879 I saw her highlights. Y Yeah, me too, and they were raving 69 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:13.159 about right against South Carolina. Yeah, the USC has this fret true freshman 70 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.839 who's scoring thirty a games. So you know, they got the workout out. 71 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:17.439 It's gonna be. It's it's a hard league. I mean, you 72 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.480 want to talk about the hard league that Arizona had in football, It was 73 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:25.279 nothing like this sure, and so you know, and I think this is 74 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:29.560 you know, the Arizona's young. They you know, they're they're working in 75 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.360 some new players and I think ideas trying to you know, get get players 76 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.920 who are gonna stay and be and be developed. And she's talked about that. 77 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.959 So this may be a tough year for them as far as the wins 78 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.560 and losses goes, but she's hoping they make a lot of progress. Yeah, 79 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.079 Okay, a lot of a lot of turnovers still going on in Oklahoma 80 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.639 on here, or at least people coming in now right for you. Breaking 81 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.160 news about that. Yeah, we're doing some transfer stuff, some more transfer 82 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:58.120 stuff, players going in, players coming out going all that from all over 83 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.079 places. Washington just lost her Bet Cup. Quarterback he left, he's not 84 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:06.480 going to the game, So we'll see what happens. No one's happy. 85 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:14.720 Aren't happy anymore. It's you know, you see guys. You see guys 86 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:20.959 frans and who are playing. They're starters, they're on good teams. You 87 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.920 know, a bunch of Ohio State guys are leaving starters, including their quarterback. 88 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.120 You know, the starting quarterback at Oklahoma has left. I mean, 89 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:32.439 somebody else the offensive line. It's not just it's obviously not just about playing 90 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.600 time, but how much more money is there out there for these guys that 91 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:39.759 they're saying, Okay, I'm gonna throw you know, all the work I've 92 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:44.040 done over here to go play one year over there to collective page. Let 93 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.480 me ask you dumb questions because we have two kids in the room here. 94 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.879 You think it's generational. And I say that because do you think it would 95 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:56.519 have happened twenty years ago as well? Give given the circumstances, I'm gonna 96 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:01.480 I'm gonna completely stereotype the the guys, young guys of today, because I 97 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.279 think I saw his head not so old. I refute that I you know, 98 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:10.720 I have a few of those that are around my house. You know, 99 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.839 it's this, it's this idea of you know, instant satisfactor. It's 100 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.079 been it's been for a while, right. It started with the millennial group 101 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.959 and then whoever whatever the generation blank is coming after that. But it's kind 102 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.800 of like been a you know, I want my job to be great and 103 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:30.319 I want to make a lot of money, right right, That is partially 104 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.040 true, but I do think that like if I mean, how many times 105 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:34.439 have we spoken to to former players and coaches who are like, man, 106 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.360 I wish I had that, n I l I would have you know, 107 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:42.240 let's get this call real quick. Partially true. Oh you're on the air 108 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:43.959 and I on the ball. You want to have to turn off your radio? 109 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.480 Yes, please turn off your radio. Hey, hey, thanks for 110 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:48.680 pay attention to the phone lines. I'm never listening when you guys a get 111 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.600 out the phone number. I felt lucky when you did a lot of ticket 112 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.879 or go fishing or something, right, and we get some of that, 113 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.079 We get some of that if you hit it. Yeah, yeah, hey, 114 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.000 I think ANFAA football man, I got to pay attention to the product 115 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.480 because a lot of these dudes jumping ship are going different places like that dude 116 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:13.079 from OU this is this would be a third school. But it's gonna start 117 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.639 tainting the product. Like who wants to watch a bowl game with you know, 118 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.319 half the starters on a previous roster gone Like it's it's uh, it's 119 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.600 gonna catch up pretty soon here. That's a good point. I agree with 120 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.839 that, because the bowl games are part of the product. They're they're historically 121 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.839 they've been fun. You know, people get sick. There's a lot of 122 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.120 a lot of opinion. People get sick of them. But I you know, 123 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.560 I'm I'm I like them, and I do I get disappointed when the 124 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:40.600 best players aren't there. There's a paradox in college football because it's like at 125 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.759 the beginning of the year, it's like, hey, we're playing for a 126 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.160 ball, we're playing to this, we're playing for that, and then once 127 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.199 bull season comes around, even the coaches are like, well, I don't 128 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.920 really consider this a big deal, Like come on, man, like what 129 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.759 are we playing for? Why am I supporting this team? You know, 130 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:57.040 why are we supporting this school? Are we what are we trying to do 131 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.600 here? So I think college football is is kind of existed in this kind 132 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.399 of paradox situation for a long time. And I think the fans are going 133 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:11.920 to start walking because you know it's too shifty. Yeah okay. And by 134 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.279 the way, you win the word of the day with paradox, so you'll 135 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:22.120 be getting your gift certificate in the middle. I appreciate, appreciate it. 136 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.000 Good points, good points, Yeah, good points. Well think about you 137 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.560 know, and and and actually, you know, the truth is that you 138 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.240 know, Bowl games aren't well attended. No, no, they're not right. 139 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.679 No even even you know, championship games or you know the New York 140 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.240 six year six games and stuff like that. If that team, you know, 141 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.159 how many Oregon fans are actually going to go to what are they in 142 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.200 the Cotton Bowl? No, they're in the festival and they're gonna play Liberty. 143 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.799 Yeah, well if Liberty might show up, but not Liberty is going 144 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.039 to show up, right, But how many fans do they have? Sure? 145 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.120 But like exactly what you said about the Liberty fans showing up, they 146 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.360 did not expect. They might not have expected to be in this position starting 147 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.279 the year. Oregon their goal is their national They didn't get to their goal. 148 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.000 Yeah, but that's the disappointing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 149 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.960 But I don't think it's the fans that are like, oh, we have 150 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.240 too many transfers leaving. It's like, well, I don't want to watch 151 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.639 this game anyway. I'm disappointed. Right, Yeah, so back to your 152 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.440 back to the discussion. I think it's an opportunity thing for the kids. 153 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.240 Yeah. I think I think if the kids of the past had had the 154 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.200 opportunity the kids now do, we would just have we would have this exact 155 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:22.279 situation with less obviously money and stuff like that. But back then we would 156 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.559 have the adjustments now and be a lot more stable. I think so. 157 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.720 And you're saying, because we've talked to some people, they would have wished 158 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.240 that. No, I think that's true for any eighteen twenty year old. 159 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.639 Happened earlier. Yeah, in the twenty years now, but we're gonna be 160 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.240 more stable in ten years and are now sure. No, I both sides 161 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.879 have can be right, and guys have always transferred. It's harder to transfer 162 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.440 now that's so easy. Yeah, we're saying, Okay, it's it's easy 163 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.799 to do. So I'm going to the car. I don't think he got 164 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.879 his names, but to his point, who was the third time? Was 165 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:58.039 that the Oklahoma on the guy from uh, you know, Clemson, Oregon 166 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.639 State and he's headed back. He's visiting Florida State this week. Yeah. 167 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.720 No, it's a it's an opportunity to play and get a little bag or 168 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.679 when you can. Yeah, you know, we'll see what happens, because 169 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.120 eventually some of these guys aren't going to make it in the pros. We 170 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.279 all know that, right, Yeah, they're just not. There's not enough 171 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.480 opportunity there. So I don't fault them. But it's changed the landscape. 172 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.879 Well yeah, no, and and you're right, I mean what you know 173 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.879 part part of what's changed is ouh young lele Right, Okay, he's a 174 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.000 good he's a good quarterback, not a great college. You've said that alone. 175 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.399 He might, you know, he's going to get a shot at the 176 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.879 NFL. I don't know if he's an NFL quarterback, but if somebody's gonna 177 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.600 go ahead and pay him seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you go quarterback 178 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.679 in Florida State, He's gonna take that because that'll he he can do something 179 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.720 with that to set himself up for life. Right, It's not. It's 180 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.240 not life changing money from the standpoint, he's going to live off the seven 181 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.840 to fifty the rest of his life. But you get you get a chunk 182 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:54.320 of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. There's a lot you can do with 183 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.159 that to set yourself up for life. And you know, if if he's 184 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.399 looking at that and saying, well, this is the most money I might 185 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.799 ever make as a quarterback, then he's gonna take it. I'm not faulting 186 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.360 these guys for any of this. I'm just saying, this is what's happening. 187 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.120 And when when you think about, you know, what what studies have 188 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.039 said about you know, millennials and younger that. And I've seen it, 189 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.720 you know, I mean I've seen you know, friends, friends of my 190 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.120 kids. Sure, they take a job and they work the job for a 191 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.879 year and it just wasn't good enough and they weren't making enough money. So 192 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.240 they go to the next job, and the next job and the next job. 193 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.320 It's like, you know, I just remember working when I got hired 194 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.240 at the start, I thought I'm working here forever. Yeah I didn't, 195 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.480 but I thought I might. No. No, it's funny, but you 196 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.000 but you're right. I think one of the problems we have too. And 197 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.080 I tell Kevin and the kids who show up in this room, just because 198 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.120 you're going to school and get a degree, that means Nava, you get 199 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.399 a degree, You're not gonna automatically get hired by somebody. You gotta you 200 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.200 gotta have the scale, but you also have to make it. Making connections 201 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.960 is the number one thing you can get seized the rest of your semester or 202 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.120 whatever. If you're good at what you do, they're gonna find you. 203 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.320 It's just like it's just like the singers of the world if you could, 204 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.919 you know, if you're good at what you do, you'll get you get 205 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.840 drafted, and they'll find a place for you. Exactly. Yeah. And 206 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.679 I think today's point company loyalty, at least for my generation, is probably 207 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:11.720 at an all time low. Right, Like, once you get in the 208 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.919 door, you really they really have to make you love there, right, 209 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.000 once you get in the door. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the 210 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.519 same thing with football, Like I mean, once you get in the locker 211 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.879 room, I mean it's on the coaches to make you love that school because 212 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:28.000 there's there's nothing you know, automatic and what makes you and what you know, 213 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.120 what does that playing time? Yeah, we have some good We saw 214 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.679 some good players here that have come and gone, right, well, obviously 215 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.919 most recently a few have come and gone. But you know, you think 216 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.919 about some of those players, and we've talked about it in a number of 217 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.480 times, and particularly that you know, the the the DeAndre Ayton group. 218 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.600 You know, none of those guys that I think we're here for Arizona. 219 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.960 They were here to get there without question, you know, get there, 220 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.480 get their time, and get get some get some visibility, and get on 221 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.399 their way. I didn't think I didn't think one of them cared about the 222 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:03.639 uniform or anything else. Uh, you seem you feel like Tommy's getting that 223 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.000 piece of it done. You feel like these guys like I think, you 224 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.799 know, Caleb Love who's going to be here one year, but I feel 225 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:15.240 like he really wants to make Arizona, help Arizona win. I think because 226 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.399 he's at Arizona sure that pleasure. I think he he and Tommy recognized this 227 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.559 bringing him in. Is he needs to change his not legacy, whatever word, 228 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.600 he needs to change his image, perception, perception of who he is. 229 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.440 Because he's doing that, he's going to be at the end of the 230 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.519 year, right, right, Let's see if it holds form, because I 231 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.039 think we talked about this yesterday or maybe even Bruce talked about it. Okay, 232 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.200 we're in December now. As we get and I've seen it, as 233 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.639 we get closer to March, the seniors or the guys leaving, I gotta 234 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.720 get mine. Numbers. Numbers matter, but if you're good enough for your 235 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.080 numbers don't matter. You can play it or not. Just that. Let's 236 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.080 say, let's say they're being talked about. Okay, this guy's a lottery 237 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.200 pick. Now, how hard is he going to work those last two or 238 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.360 three weeks of the season. You know, does the packed off turn, 239 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.399 the grind of the PAC twelve tournament mattered to them, Does the grind of 240 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.840 an NCAA tournament matter to them? Because I've seen players give it, you 241 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.039 know, give up in those you know, in playoff situation, because you 242 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.879 can tell they're just tired of the grind and they're ready to move on, 243 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.679 and they do that. Yeah, all right, let's take our break. 244 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.039 Terry Francona will be joining us. We'll talk about what he's doing in his 245 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.000 quote unquote retirement. See what he's up to he's been here in town. 246 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.519 We've seen him at a bunch of basketball games, and we saw him on 247 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.159 the road at where do we see him on the road at Michigan State. 248 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.279 No a duke. Here's a duke. So chairs awaiting for us to get 249 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:31.600 a call. 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Terry Francona, how are you coach? I'm good, 330 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.359 guys, How are you fine? Thank you? You're world Trevorer. I 331 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.279 saw you Durham, North Carolina. I saw you the last weekend. Man, 332 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:41.960 what a life? You know what when I said I was retiring. 333 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:47.559 I said I was going to start doing some things that I never did before, 334 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.839 and because I always felt like I had somewhere to be. And so 335 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.519 I took three of the coaches down to the Arizona Duke game, and then 336 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.240 the next day me and one of the other coaches one to the Penns they 337 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:06.039 Michigan football games. So it's I'm playing on doing some of that stuff now. 338 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:10.599 Well. And so obviously you're like a huge sports fan of really all 339 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.680 sports, cause first you're going to basketball games, You're going to football games. 340 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:15.480 You think you're gonna Are you sick of baseball? You thinking to go 341 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:21.039 to some baseball? I'm not. I'm not sick of baseball. I actually 342 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:26.559 love baseball. I just I just was running out of gas. And I 343 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.720 think there's a certain way you need to do the job. And I don't 344 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.200 think I was doing that my you know, doing that anymore. And I 345 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.480 didn't want to overstay my welcome. I didn't want to do it for the 346 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:44.640 wrong reasons. And so now it's time to maybe focus on like you, 347 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.559 Like I said, my next road trip will probably be going to see the 348 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.279 U of A play somewhere that's the extent of my road trips. Nice. 349 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.079 Nice. In fact, I think a lot of people would envy you, 350 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.839 especially in the profession of coaching and managing. You called your own shot, 351 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.920 and that doesn't happen very often. And you know, about in about June, 352 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.799 I was really starting to wrestle with you know how I felt about kind 353 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.440 of my longevity doing this, and I was kind of starting to aggravate myself. 354 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.240 I was like, okay, you know, ye in, ye out, 355 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.359 because the players don't deserve that. And when I told my bosses in 356 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:27.119 about the middle of August, it really helped me. It freed me up. 357 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.599 And I also told them, I'm like, hey, guys, you 358 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:34.680 guys have been so good to me. I said, go find your next 359 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.880 manager. You know, don't tiptoe around me. You don't, there's no 360 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:44.440 reason for you to do that. And and I wanted them to enjoy trying 361 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.440 to find the next manager, because, like I said, I I was 362 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.880 to the point in my career where I think I had enough. They weren't, 363 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.839 and I didn't want to penalize them. So and to their credit, 364 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.519 they went out and got a really good manager. He's young, he's going 365 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.559 to be really good though. You know, you talked about how you felt 366 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:04.480 like, you know, you weren't giving it what you thought you should be 367 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.960 giving it. But you know, in the end, did you do all 368 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.640 the things or get or you know, I don't know if achieve is the 369 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.000 right word, but sort of get to all the landmarks you wanted to get 370 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.720 to, both as a player, you know, and as a manager, 371 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.519 and you were like, Okay, I've gone as far as i'm I can 372 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:22.880 take this, and now it's time for me to go. I mean, 373 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.720 how did you feel personally about what you had accomplished in baseball? No, 374 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.880 you know, and I really never thought about that. I mean like, 375 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.559 as a player, you know, I got hurt so early in my career 376 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:38.480 that my goals drastically changed. I went from want to leave the wag and 377 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.480 heading to just trying to be valuable enough to be on a team. And 378 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:47.599 then as a manager, I would say, and every manager probably answered the 379 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.640 same way that unless you found a way to win every game, you didn't 380 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:55.640 fulfill all your goals. So, you know, and again, you know, 381 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.799 people talk about legacy. I'm not too sure I'm all that worried about 382 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:04.359 that. I gave everything I had, and I tried to do the best 383 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:08.559 I could. And I know I respect the game and I love the game, 384 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:15.039 and the game was so good to me. So again, I'm I 385 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.559 just thought it was time, and like I said, I didn't want to 386 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.720 do it for the wrong reasons. Hell, if you ever get to Boston 387 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:26.480 and you have to buy a beer, shame on Boston. Well you know, 388 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.799 I've been back there a few times and I've heard that, but I've 389 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.359 been not that is not the equition yet. So we're gonna have to see 390 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:37.799 you should Well you probably don't have to buy one here, that's for sure. 391 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.839 So okay, So aside from aside from you know, all the games 392 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.480 you're going to and that kind of stuff, you know, what are you 393 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.319 doing with your time besides that? Now you mentioned off air that this is 394 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.160 the time of year you wouldn't be doing a whole lot anyways, But you 395 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:53.359 know, what do you plan to do? Well? So when the season 396 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.680 was over, I had my normal, I had my shoulder replaced, and 397 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.839 I had a couple of hernias that were fixed. So and that that's that's 398 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.079 been something that I've done like the last four or five years, And it 399 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.559 really sucks because I was spending the whole winter trying to get healthy, and 400 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:12.440 then I'd go back and do the season again and get beat up. So 401 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.680 I want to get healthy first, and then I want to you know, 402 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:19.799 I want a golf. I want to go do some things that I've never 403 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:26.559 done. I'm I don't know how much I'm going to miss baseball, and 404 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.599 I won't know that until the season starts. But it doesn't scare me like 405 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.480 I'm you know, I hope I missed it a little bit. My goodness. 406 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.839 I've did it for forty four years and I and I love it, 407 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.519 but I just thought it was time. And I I know I'm not the 408 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.680 smartest person in the room, but I gave it a lot of thoughts and 409 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.759 I felt pretty good about it. So I asked this of coaches and players 410 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.640 all the time who have kind of gotten out of the business. Uh, 411 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.519 cause you your competitors. So that's what you do in YouTube, competitors at 412 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.680 the highest level. So what are you going to do to fuel that fire? 413 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.880 You know, everything I've ever done, Like when I go play golf, 414 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.720 I try to win, or you know, if I swim in the 415 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.759 backyard, I try to compete against myself. That's probably never going to change. 416 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:21.160 But but again I think I was actually looking forward to to not having 417 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.799 that hang over my head because again, forty four years, man, that's 418 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.799 a long time, and sometimes it kind of burns you out a little bit. 419 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.400 And and I think that's where I had gotten. Oh well, I 420 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.559 think I heard in one of the press conferences when you when you did announce 421 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.920 your retirement that you're looking forward to, you know, getting around to about 422 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.160 spring training and not having or even before that, and not having to worry 423 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.759 about you know, players, a roster, you know, you know who 424 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:49.480 you're signing, who you're not signing, all that kind of stuff. So 425 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.160 on the one hand, it's probably very stressful, but then you know that 426 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.680 was part of your life for so long. You know, you're not sitting 427 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.480 here worried about, you know, should we have gone and tried to get 428 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.319 Show or Juan Soto or something, and now you're kind of like, I 429 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.640 don't have to deal with any of that. Well, just to be completely 430 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.640 honest, I don't think those two guys I would have been really really worried 431 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.759 about anyway. I don't think that was probably going to be in our wheelhouse. 432 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.880 But I get your point. I mean, I'd be driving, you 433 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.160 know, somewhere in Tucson during the winter, and I'd pull off the road 434 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:27.440 and make a note of something I knew I wanted to say to our team 435 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.880 in spring training, and I didn't want to forget it, so I'd pull 436 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.640 off. And so it's always not too far from the front of your mind. 437 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.640 And now I'm able to let go for the first time. Well, 438 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.960 so like when I went to the Duke Arizona basketball game, excuse me, 439 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.039 guys, I was able to fully enjoy it and take it in and not 440 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.519 think, Okay, when this game's over, I got to go make this 441 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.079 phone call or I got to go do this, and I really enjoyed it. 442 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.720 Well, if I'm correct, one of the last times we spoke to 443 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.160 you were headed to to get with the team is during COVID. Remember we 444 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.359 cut you on the road somewhere en route to Cleveland I think it was. 445 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.759 And then did that help you kind of me? You realize, hey, 446 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:15.880 being away from baseball is kind of okay. No, no, it really 447 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.480 didn't. I just the last couple of years that started getting harder, and 448 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.559 some of it was probably some of my physical you know things that were happening 449 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:30.119 to me that that didn't make it easier. But again, I just it 450 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.079 just I think it was just time I started to feel where again, like 451 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.200 a burnt out feeling. And and and I guess said, and they were 452 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.880 paying me so well, and I loved the guys I work with, and 453 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.839 I loved our players, But like I said, I just didn't want to 454 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.680 do it for the wrong reasons. Yeah, yeah, So this is something 455 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.400 I like to ask because you know, I'm a native from here. Uh, 456 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.559 you know, been here my entire life. You were actually in school 457 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:56.559 at the U of A at the same time. We're about the same age. 458 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.079 You're a few months older than me. But you know you're from somewhere 459 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.920 else. But yet you know you're here, You're here in town. You 460 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.400 know your your dad played baseball, so you know you've probably traveled a bunch. 461 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:14.559 Why Tucson. Well, I grew up in western Pennsylvania in a small 462 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.400 town called New Brighton, and it was a great place to grow up. 463 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.960 I mean great, you knew everybody, and and and I wouldn't change it 464 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.039 for the world. And you know, when I came out here as an 465 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.039 eighteen year old, it took me a little while. I mean I was 466 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.200 homesick and took me a while, but once I got used to it out 467 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:41.119 here, this kind of became home. And for a lot of good reasons. 468 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.799 I mean, it's a it's a wonderful place. I like the idea 469 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.680 that just about everything revolves around the university. I think that gives the city 470 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:56.039 of Tucson less of a kind of a snarky attitude, and I think it 471 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:02.599 permeates throughout the throughout Tucson, and I really like that. I was on 472 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.279 the internet today and just randomly saw some clips whatever it was, and it 473 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.400 was it was the Boston New York rivalry of all the fights and stuff. 474 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.960 Could you talk to me real quick a guy who have no idea of how 475 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.160 that was, How big of a rivalry was it, and how crazy was 476 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.319 it? Well, I'll tell you it was so big that Jon Joe Torre 477 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:29.599 was their manager who I really respected, but we would never talk on the 478 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:33.839 field. I would always go meet him out behind in the tunnel because fans 479 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.519 did not want to see that. And so again, I you know, 480 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:42.240 it was what I thought was so good about it? What were the players? 481 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:47.960 The players on both sides were so good and I got a big kick 482 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.799 out of that, but I didn't get you know, and unless they start 483 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.400 rewarding you for extra credit when you win, or you get docked more when 484 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:02.279 you lose, it's still well, you know, we didn't change our rotation. 485 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.079 We didn't do things like that because I just didn't believe in that. 486 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.599 Do you do you have any kind of an ongoing relationship with Dave Roberts because 487 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:12.920 we don't know about the you know, the role he played in that, 488 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.119 you know, in that ALCS when you guys came back to beat the Yankees. 489 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.279 I mean, you know he's a manager. Now did you run across 490 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:22.519 him much? Do you guys? Ever? You know, reminisce and have 491 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:27.160 a beer over over all of that. We haven't had a beer. But 492 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.960 every time we play in spring training, you know, when the game's over 493 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.799 and everybody's kind of walking out through right field, I put my arm around 494 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.160 him and we have a good laugh together, and I mean a warm, 495 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.480 good laugh because that is something that will stay with me my whole life. 496 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.240 And he is such a good I call him a kid. He's a man, 497 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.680 and he's doing a great job. But he's just such a good person 498 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.880 that you know they say good things happen to good people. Well he kind 499 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.319 of lived that out. So you say that, bring it up, because 500 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.599 right we talked to Matt and Meilboch a couple of weeks ago. We had 501 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.079 Pete Williams here last week. We're going to talk to Curve soon. And 502 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.839 you you let me say this, all good guys who have this competitive fire 503 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.359 in them. Just because you're good guys doesn't mean you're not pain in the 504 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.000 next beat. Does that make any sense? And I hope so? And 505 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.519 so I don't you know, I think you have to be true to yourself, 506 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:28.240 and I think you can be a good person and find ways to be 507 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.319 honest with players without beating them over the head or making them feel, you 508 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:37.319 know, like crap. I watched the Kurr all the time, and I 509 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.359 have so much respect for how he does things and the things that come out 510 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.759 of his mouth. And I see Matt mull balk out of the games all 511 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.680 the time, and I marveled that, you know, he went his whole 512 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.079 career and never lost the game at McHale and he's just such a joy to 513 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.000 say hello to. So that's you know again, they're they're good people. 514 00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.720 And that's what makes it more fun. Well, and then now you have 515 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.440 a school coach a lot like that. I'll tell you what. They hit 516 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.440 a home run, man, they they hit a home run. This guy 517 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:13.680 is I mean, you know when loud Olsen came here, I got season 518 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.400 tickets in nineteen eighty three. In fact, I was telling Steve Kerr that 519 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.359 the other day, and they were up a little higher than they are now. 520 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:27.480 But with Tommy here, they are in really good hands and it's exciting 521 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.319 and I love it, man. I mean I know when they're playing, 522 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.359 and my schedule will revolve around that. That's cool, all right. So 523 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.240 I got to ask you, what do you got to do to get the 524 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.720 seats more towards the center over there? Because it's here, like you're like 525 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.880 four seats in from the end, and so we all know that, you 526 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.319 know, more towards the center costs more. So you're gonna buy those out 527 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.880 from those guys? What are you going to do there? Way? And 528 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.599 not to be too silly, but I think he had to wait for somebody 529 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.920 to pass away, or you know, those seats are hard to get. 530 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:04.480 I'm pretty happy with one. I'm at I love It's one of my funnest 531 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.920 things to do. And it's just a treat that I kind of treated myself 532 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.440 because me and my buddy Bill have been going to these games, like I 533 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.719 said, since nineteen eighty three, and it's just really special. And with 534 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:22.760 Tommy in town, it's gotten special again and it's exciting. You might want 535 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.840 to just give him a hint that you have a name a facility named after 536 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.760 you at High Corbett. Maybe that gets you in a little bit. Yeah, 537 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.000 you know, you know, Tommy came. I don't know if he 538 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:36.920 told everybody, but he came to Cleveland for a couple of days and in 539 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.400 September, and he said he wanted to kind of watch how we did things. 540 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.280 In the first game, we got to beat so bad our backup catcher 541 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.559 had to pitch four innings, which had never happened before. But we stayed 542 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.360 there till about two thirty in the morning, and we talked and we talked, 543 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.239 and the coaches just ate him up. They couldn't get enough of them. 544 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.599 So his personality, he's pretty infectious. Yeah, no question, they 545 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.840 are in good hands. There's no doubt about that. We'll see what happens. 546 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:07.840 So just what do you think about the team itself, because you've now 547 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:16.480 witnessed them against Duke and now with Wisconsin. They are so incredibly deep that 548 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.079 because you know stuff's gonna happen. It's a long year and guys get banged 549 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.960 up and things happen, but they seem to me to be situated to handle 550 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.079 that. And I mean, I give them credit, man, this is 551 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.639 not a powder puff schedule. They're getting after it. I mean they got 552 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.280 to go. You know, they Purdue on the road, they got some 553 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.880 games that are at neutral sites, but they're playing really good teams. I 554 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:43.400 just think I just think it's exciting. I mean, nobody has a crystal 555 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.039 ball, but that's kind of the fun of it is to watch the journey 556 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.559 and just see how these kids do and and it's exciting. Man, Yes 557 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.760 it is. Well, Terry, thank you very much. Appreciate the time. 558 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:58.679 But we'll see you at the base of the basketball games. You better 559 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.280 believe it. Thanks guys, haven't been week okay, you too, Thank 560 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.599 you much. Thank you. Last time I asked him how do you get 561 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.280 a baseball? So if he knew that, I guess he'll still be exactly 562 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.519 yeah, exactly, good great guy. I'll always always pray to us. 563 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.599 You do see him around, you know, around the basketball program and just 564 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.559 all the sports. Right, you're about the same age by sixty four, 565 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.199 what are you now? She's four. He's like four months older than me. 566 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.719 But I think he's made a little more money. He's in a different 567 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.440 tax break. Yeah, a little bit, yeah bit. Okay, all 568 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.239 right, thanks, thank you Kerry for joining us. We'll be back. 569 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.239 We'll take your costs by zero, four, one, six, seventy four, 570 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:40.480 forty. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's been 571 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.440 successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludolsen era 572 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.079 in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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It's put Shangha time. 611 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.559 The Barstool Sports Arizona bo is thrilled to bring two powerhouse programs, the Toledo 612 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.920 Rockets and Wyoming Cowboys, to Arizona Stadium on December thirtieth. But but Shungo 613 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.079 Week is more than the football game. It's Tucson's own end of year park 614 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.360 that doesn't stop until the Taco touchdown at the Taco Belt New Year's Eve Downtown 615 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:55.480 Bowl Bash featuring fireworks presented by O'Reilly Chevrolet. Start your Putshanga journey and get 616 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:05.880 your tickets today at the Arizona Bowl dot Com streaming live. I mean iHeartRadio 617 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.599 WI. This is I on the Ball with Steve Robera and Jay Gonzalez on 618 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.239 Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Hey, welcome back to the ball, Gerol, 619 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.400 Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, get Kevin got 620 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:27.119 Ilion ilion elyon Early on Ellion ellon eleon he as we say, that's taking 621 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:34.679 piece out for me I'm from northern New Mexico. Jeff, you got a 622 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.840 twelve minutes if you guys want to call five two oho four one six four 623 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.840 forty. We already had one good color and maybe make it a second one. 624 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.440 Yep, yep, talk about whatever you guys want to talk about. 625 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.679 Great to talk to Terry Francone. It was great. He's again always uh, 626 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.159 you know, just generous with his time with us. We've had him, 627 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.440 you know, over the years. You can tell he's enjoying life right 628 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.039 now, just hanging out, going to ball games. I mean, how 629 00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.519 about that trip right he said he went to the Duke game that went up 630 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.960 to the Pencil Michigan football game. You know, that's that's why he worked 631 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.159 as hard as he did. Sure that you know, in the end, 632 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.119 he can do whatever he wants to do, and you got to respect, 633 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.000 you know, a chance to do all that. It's very cool. It's 634 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.760 always it's always great having him back in the building for basketball games. It's 635 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.199 all the famous alums coming back. It adds it adds a palpable buzz to 636 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.199 the building. Well yeah, I mean because you think, Okay, here's 637 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.719 this guy who's done all these things and he's here to watch. Yeah, 638 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.239 you know your team you must think where something this year? Yeah? So, 639 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.079 but yeah, he sits in the he's in the front row. It 640 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.400 helps to have a schedule like they have to be. You know, Skurt 641 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.599 would not have come had it not been for Wisconsin. He would not have 642 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.320 gone to Duke if it wasn't Duke, obviously, which is great because it's 643 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.599 going to continue to be this way this weekend. I'm sure there's gonna be 644 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.000 some people Purdue. Well, this stretching three games, Steve, I mean, 645 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.440 do you recall actually, let's come, let's say four with Wisconsin, 646 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.519 you know, yeah, I mean outside of outside of a Nancy Double a 647 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.039 tournament, but or or a Maui Classic or something like that. Just r 648 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.880 a stretch of four regular season games like this. Well, you can push 649 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:06.760 the five FAU coming up in Alabama, we had Colgate, Okay, then 650 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:13.199 okay, then it was Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Uh, Wisconsin, Purdue, 651 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.360 Alabama FAU. Well back in ninety seven eight, Well, we'll talk about 652 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.320 it. We'll take this call. Hi, you're on the air and I 653 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.480 on the ball. Hi, guys, it's Jim. What's up? Jim? 654 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.159 Well, I wanted to call while you were there and and fess up 655 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:38.119 for my bat against you daw lit a while three weeks ago. But he 656 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:44.320 thought Utah would dominate the line of scrimmage and they did not. Yep, 657 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:50.639 they did not. And that's where that's where the game went for Utah. 658 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.079 They got they got man handled, and I didn't expect that. Yeah, 659 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.760 I mean, and and nobody's dominated the line of scrimmage against Arizona all year 660 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:04.320 long, now, nobody, not USC Washington. I'd say line of scrimmage 661 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.039 was you know, a push. But they had Michael Pennix, who should 662 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.559 have won the Heisman Trophy and they and you know, and they won that 663 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.280 game. Mississippi State didn't dominate them. In fact, it looked to me 664 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.159 like they really dominated Missippi State. They just made too many heirs. USC 665 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.880 didn't dominate anybody all year long, so you know, uh that that's what 666 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.320 set this team apart from the others. Yeah, it was a little bit 667 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.280 hard to tell where that line was going, and I mean the line in 668 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:37.760 the stand. But it's obvious now that the University of Arizona football team owns 669 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:43.679 the line of scrimmage for now, right you know, they right now they 670 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:49.039 have that yeah. Because now the other thing I wanted to get out a 671 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:55.679 little bit is, you know, watching all these developments with the FACT twelve 672 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:05.480 going in the way of history, I've got a chink that two or maybe 673 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:14.880 three five star players and what we've gone to immense expanse of real estate here 674 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:22.079 that isn't covered by very good opportunities. What do you mean by that? 675 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.800 I think two or three five star players are going to end up at the 676 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.960 University of Arizona that wouldn't have otherwise. If if it's back twelve, it 677 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.760 state in back Oh yeah, yeah, Well that's been the question from the 678 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.519 day that USC and UCLA announced that they were leaving the PAC twelve. It's 679 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.960 like, okay, you're playing in l A. You got all these players 680 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.599 that play and they love playing on the West Coast and their parents get to 681 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.800 go to games and stuff like that. How many of them are going to 682 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.119 want to travel that were all their all their road games are the closest one 683 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:59.599 is miss is Nebraska. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be anxious 684 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.960 to lead son in Arizona to goes sit in the stand a foot of snow 685 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.039 in my butt. Yeah, you're right. You're right, correct. I 686 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.920 think that boat. I think that bodes well even more so for Jed and 687 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.000 his recruiting average. And I think it'll take a while for us to see 688 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.679 how that develops. But I think that's a thing. I think it's already 689 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.760 developedment. I think things are moving at the speed of thought. Yeah, 690 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.360 yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. Thanks 691 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.719 from thank the momin All righty man, thanks for calling. Appreciate it. 692 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.559 See you. So to go back to your question to me about the scheduling, 693 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.880 there's two times that I can remember, but it does include the Maled 694 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.840 Classic. So in ninety seven ninety eight, after they won the title, 695 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.639 they had everybody back right, and it was the preseason number one they came 696 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.960 back from from the Maled Classic. They lost to Duke in the championship game. 697 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.880 Then they played Kansas here if you remember they lost. They went to 698 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.800 Texas and they won. No, not that year, they lost ninety seven. 699 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.199 That year it was a great game. I remember that game. They 700 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.159 went to Texas. One there at Baylor they won their How I remember the 701 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.119 Baylor game was the Tuna Fish Girl. What's her name is Jessica Simpson? 702 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.199 She sang the national anthem. Wow, she was eighteen nineteen at the time. 703 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.000 Okay, And then that year and then the twenty twenty two thousand and 704 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.679 one when they were really really good, probably my best team that I thought 705 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.320 they were. They had gone to Maui, they had won Maui, They 706 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:37.079 went to Purdue, they lost to Purdue. Out there. It was just 707 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.039 like a whirlwind trip. I remember going to Hi, coming home real quick, 708 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.880 going to Purdue, and then they played at Connecticut. And remember the 709 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.360 Connecticut game. Yes, that was the Bobby that was the Ludolfsen didn't show 710 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:53.800 up for the game trip and that was the goaltending called by Barristeros Palastos and 711 00:46:54.039 --> 00:47:00.719 with Lauren Woods. So that was the significant significance of that. And they 712 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.239 played l a shoe one. So in Illinois. They went to Connecticut, 713 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.440 loss and played at Illinois. So that was a crazy time. Yeah. 714 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.480 So it's back to those fun, great, great times, right, and 715 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.079 having a bunch of games like that in a row right where it's where it's 716 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.400 the norm. It's not right, right, I mean, this stretching game 717 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.400 is crazy, No it is. But guess what, they're the best team 718 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.360 of the country. They really are right now. So no excuses. Yeah, 719 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.880 you know, no excuses. Every team wants to beat them now. 720 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.519 Yeah, well interesting because you know, I was talking about this article that 721 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.719 came out Sports Illustrated today and uh who wrote Kevin Sweeney, right, yeah, 722 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.440 Kevin, Uh yeah, Kevin Sweeney. Okay, there are seven unbeaten 723 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:45.639 uh yeah, you know Power five whatever basketball teams. Arizona is one of 724 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.000 them. So he was he was picking, okay, who when is each 725 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.800 one gonna have its first loss? And he picked their little news to to 726 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.480 to produce score? Does a score? No, he just said, you 727 00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.519 just said that the you know, uh he said first loss, you know, 728 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.719 December sixteen versus Perdue. But you know, saying that, look, 729 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.400 they've done all this and if they win all of those games, you know, 730 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.480 they could be undefeated for quite a while. Sure, you know, 731 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.719 because U C L a USC are are showing that they're just crapped. Sure, 732 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.320 right, And there isn't anybody in the league but you and I and 733 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.360 you said this is gonna lose a game. You're gonna lose a game. 734 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.639 No team has goun undefeated in the Pac twelve or Pac ten. Ever, 735 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.679 there was only another three twenty games seventeen and one. I was seventeen to 736 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.559 three times, right, an, there's twenty games. Yeah, you never 737 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.159 know. I mean, come on, remember the USC game when they Bibby 738 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.679 and and Miles and all of them went to USC and that that shot that 739 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.880 Spanish hit, Yeah, and it should have gone out and it popped in 740 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.119 and fell and they they won. I was at one of those, the 741 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.239 ninety two team. Uh they were. They were in the Bay Area the 742 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.559 last weekend and they had Calkel and I my wife and I remember that game. 743 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.039 I remember that the guy that Todd Boseman, the head coach, he 744 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.639 just got in trouble. He had just gotten the job because he got got 745 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.280 fired. Yeah, and they and they lost that and I remember being at 746 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.840 that game. I was at the Why maybe I'm the guy because I was 747 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.039 at I was at the one loss in the in the conference loss in the 748 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.039 eighty eighteen Obviously that was covering the team that lit and that team, so 749 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.800 you know, it's hard to do no, even even good Stanford teams that 750 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.719 had a chance to do it. They I said that to Montgomery, I 751 00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.320 don't know, fifteen twenty years ago, you have a chance to go on 752 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.320 and he looked at me like, shut the hell up. What are you 753 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.039 bringing the scrap for? You know, how gonna happen? Because you know 754 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:31.519 it's a it's a dumb question, but it's a legit question. I mean, 755 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.920 there's just a game that just things don't happen. For travel, you 756 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.920 got to get to the somebody plays out of their mind. You know, 757 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.760 you see it all the time. But you know, this game with Purdue 758 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.679 though, this is fun, you know. I know. I got kind 759 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.039 of way late at my breakfast meeting this morning, like how do you get 760 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.159 Peacock? You know, because the game's on Peak, you know, And 761 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:57.039 I Toldally, I said, if you're a Comcast customer, if you're expindited, 762 00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.559 and I think if your cocks as well, you get it as part 763 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.960 of your pack. He had no idea, he'd never even been on it. 764 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.679 And I'm like, you know, and then you got, excuse an 765 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.639 older dude, what what is it. I'm a big Peacock dude, because 766 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.280 because I can get all the datelines I could ever want on Peacock. And 767 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.840 then Dan Patrick's on Peacock, so it's like the first it's like the first 768 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.679 streaming network on all my TVs. So so you have a lot of people 769 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:27.360 at the house this week, and we might we might actually we do because 770 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.199 we're we've got I got I got things going on this week. I got 771 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.920 a graduation this week Saturday, well it's actually Thursday. Then we're throwing the 772 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:42.239 party on Saturday during the game after and then we've got a first birthday or 773 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:47.360 my grandson on gon to be a Gonzales. We're gonna be feeding a lot 774 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.039 of people. Man, this is like, dang the familiar you never even 775 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.760 knew exactly coming in. They're coming in, man, coming in hot, 776 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.360 because coming in hungry. Well open the food. I mean, I mean 777 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.159 we're talking back to back party. So well, one's at our house and 778 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.360 one is at my son's house. But we live in the same neighborhood, 779 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.159 so okay. So but yeah, it's like trigger treating in the Gonzales. 780 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.840 Are that Julian man, He's he's gonna be a year old on Saturday? 781 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.079 Crazy crazy crazy, Okay, So good, good first hour, Yeah, 782 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.920 very good. A call or to yep stick around. We're gonna get Helena 783 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.320 Playo. Got it again. I can't believe she's in her fifth year here. 784 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.599 We're gonna get her on and talk about this big game they've got with 785 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.480 Texas tomorrow, tomorrow, right, and then we'll take your calls after that, 786 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.400 five two zero four one, right, breaking news here at the top 787 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:42.519 of the hour with excuse me, with Kevin. He's all over, right 788 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.199 back, all over on the ball. Just fin don't believe, just win, 789 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.679 Believe, Believe,