1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:14,119 in the UK and around the world. You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio 3 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:36,399 Network. Hello, is that the famous Astronova, Sir Patrick Wall It is 4 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:45,640 very much so. Any mules on the space front. ROUSS has just designed 5 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:52,399 and developed five igantic steadily art rocket ships. All members have pollowed along with 6 00:00:52,439 --> 00:00:56,200 the American Senate, have first class tickets of all them. You see, 7 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:03,880 they're told they're going to the moon. Exactly where they going, Sir Patrick, 8 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:49,200 the new normally discovered plitiously astronomosis a huge black hole. Welcome to Twin 9 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,159 Souls. Twin Souls is brought to an association with the pounder Le UK Radio 10 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:57,920 Network, your host Philip Kinsella. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we have 11 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:06,760 a very esteemed on board with us today and Joshua lewis the author of Finding 12 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,639 Hope in the Afterlife. Now, I just have to explain to you all 13 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,719 out here that I found Joshua on one of his YouTube channels, Amazing Channels, 14 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:17,080 and I saw this guy and I had a look into his work, 15 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,280 and boy, I was blown away, not just with the experiences that he's 16 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:30,840 gone through and also his involvement with also the technical stages and investigations into what 17 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:35,080 we call the paranormal the other side. But he's an author of this best 18 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,520 selling book, and I just was blown away, and you know, I'm 19 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,240 so pleased to have you on board, Joshua. But let me just read 20 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,199 a little bit here from the back of his book. Joshua Lewis has the 21 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,520 ability to communicate with souls on the other side, and it's dedicated to helping 22 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,560 stock spirits and people looking for closure. He spent years training with teachers and 23 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,439 conducting thousands of readings. An area of technology. Coupled with his intuitive ability, 24 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:07,879 he's reconnected many people with the deceased loved ones. In addition to his 25 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,080 work and research into the afterlife. Lewis is her father, successful business owner 26 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:16,280 and filmmaker. Welcome josh on board. I've just got to say to you 27 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,560 in your book is absolutely amazing. I said to you here that I've bought 28 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:28,840 two copies and I've been watching your YouTube channels and also I've signed up to 29 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:36,439 your amazing EVP Electronic Voice phenomena technology. I must admit I haven't had a 30 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,680 chance yet to use it, but I'm sure we'll find some time. But 31 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:44,479 first of all, you ready, So first of all, Josh, tell 32 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,520 us, how did you get involved in all of this? What started this 33 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:53,120 all off for you? Yeah, it's well, you know, I, 34 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:58,680 as I go into detail in the book, I've had a very crazy life. 35 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,800 I definitely had a crazy past. I kind of feel like I've lived 36 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:10,280 two lives within this life because I started out, you know, I didn't 37 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:14,199 you know, I was raised Catholic, and I feel like I had a 38 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:20,040 connection with Christ, but I did not have anything to do with the paranormal 39 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:26,199 of any kind. I wasn't born a medium that I knew of. I 40 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,920 was. I got into a lot of trouble in my early teens with addiction 41 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,759 and getting in trouble with the law, you know, getting you know, 42 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:42,079 petty charges and things like that. You know, ended up really just you 43 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,079 know, spiraling out of control with my addiction, and I tried to get 44 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 sober at eighteen. It didn't you know, I got a little bit of 45 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,040 help, but it didn't work. And then I ended up kind of going 46 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:59,120 even further on down the rabbit hole as far as getting in trouble, and 47 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,360 I had to go away for a couple of years. And when I got 48 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:05,519 out, I had a fresh start. I had no job, no place 49 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,560 to live, I had no money, I had I had nothing, you 50 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,000 know, but I did have one thing. Well, I had two things. 51 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,120 I had a better connection with my higher power that I had worked on 52 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:25,519 while being on the inside. And I had sobriety I had I was no 53 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,519 longer on drugs and alcohol, and I you know, started working at jobs 54 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:38,040 and delis and restaurants and things like that. And I started a small business, 55 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:42,720 a cafe, and it ended up kind of growing, and and then 56 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:46,160 I ended up making you know, millions of dollars in a very controversial business 57 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,240 that I wasn't breaking the law, but I was kind of you know, 58 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:56,920 within the confines of it. And and you know what I decided, at 59 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,839 around thirty years old, thirty one, I figured I would kind of take 60 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:05,560 some time off and I would go ahead and start looking more to the spiritual 61 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:11,959 aspect of life that I was already feeling connected to. I had seen shows 62 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:16,399 like ghost Adventures, ghost Hunters. I'd seen some things on YouTube about people 63 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,720 doing paranormal ghost hunting and investigations, and I wanted to know the truth. 64 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,360 So my partner Nikki and I we would go out to cemeteries and abandon buildings, 65 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,879 and I would bring a very basic voice recorder or something like a PSB 66 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,600 seven little radio box, and I'd go out there and I would record stuff, 67 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,639 and I didn't know what I would get, and then i'd come home 68 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,879 and I would review what I what I captured, and sure enough, there 69 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:53,279 were intelligent responses to my questions. Went out in the cemeteries, in the 70 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:56,600 field, in the buildings, and they would say my name, they would 71 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,600 say their name. They would say we want the light, we are looking 72 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:04,120 for help, or hello, and some would say get out, you know. 73 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,639 But most of the time it was very positive responses. And that's when 74 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,600 I started kind of praying to my God and saying, well, you know, 75 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,000 some of them are saying help. If there's anything I can do to 76 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:21,480 help them, show me what I can do. And I kept getting that, 77 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,279 you know, I should pray for them, and that I should envision 78 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:29,360 light for them, and so I would do that. I would go back 79 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:32,319 out there, I would pray for them, would I would see light coming 80 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:39,199 down, I'd ask Jesus, who is I choose as my personal master guide, 81 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:44,319 I should say. And then after I would do that, I would 82 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,439 hear them saying the word thank you, thank you. I see light, 83 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:53,319 thank you. So there was something going on there where. Whatever I was 84 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:58,839 doing the little bit of just saying prayers, heartfelt prayers, they were somehow 85 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,279 getting the benefit from that, and that was pretty amazing. So I brought 86 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:11,279 a medium out with me one time, and she was Anne. That was 87 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:15,120 Connie, right, Yes, So I brought a woman named Connie out. 88 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,759 I knew her from my twelve step program. She was a fellow recovering person 89 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,920 as well, and I didn't know that she was a medium. And I 90 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,720 didn't really have any experience with mediums other than watching and crossing over with John 91 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:35,240 Edwards when I was in my early teens. I really didn't know what to 92 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,960 believe. I knew of Sylvia Brown, I knew John Edwards, but I 93 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,360 didn't know what to think about mediums. When I brought her out. You 94 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,879 know, I already had picked up information in some of these locations and then 95 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,720 she I didn't tell her about anything. I didn't want her to know anything, 96 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:56,440 and so she was picking up information about stuff that I already had got 97 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,120 and didn't tell her, and she was right about it. So there was 98 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,840 something there. And I kept bringing her out and working with her, and 99 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,360 then eventually she said she got a message channeled from her guide, her master 100 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,320 Guide, that she was you know, channeling, and she called him Jay. 101 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,399 And I didn't really know what to think of that. And and she 102 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:24,679 said, you know, Jay is saying that you are going to also pick 103 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,759 up information on your own. You and Nikki are both going to pick up 104 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,159 messages. And I kind of scoffed at that. I really didn't know what 105 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,399 to think of that. I didn't think that at thirty two, thirty three 106 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,679 years old, I would now become you know, a Teresa Caputo or some 107 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,080 you know, you know, James Van Prague or something like that. You 108 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,799 know, I didn't think that was going to be the case. But sure 109 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,399 enough, one night, you know, Nicky got started picking up messages, 110 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:58,639 very profound ones. At that I then started picking up something that was undeniable, 111 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:07,759 and I knew something was there. So I found an additional teacher, 112 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:13,480 and her name is Deborlyn Katz. She's a PhD. She has the International 113 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,320 School of Clairvoyance. And I started working with her, and one of the 114 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,759 coolest things about working with this woman was I didn't know what to expect. 115 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,279 But what's interesting was that when I got on with her and we would do 116 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,440 these four or five hour calls, these like one on one classes that her 117 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,840 and I would do, and she said, Josh, I'm gonna I'm gonna 118 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:39,960 kind of throw you right into this. I'm gonna thrust you right into this. 119 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:43,840 And she said, I'm gonna I'm going to give you a name, 120 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,080 and I'm not going to tell you if they're dead or alive. I'm not 121 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,440 going to give you a last name. I'm not going to say anything. 122 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,799 I'm going to give you the name. And then for thirty minutes, i'm 123 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:58,600 going to have you read that name, cold read it, and you're going 124 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,440 to tell me the information about that person. And I'm not going to give 125 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,120 you any feedback. So for thirty minutes, you're going to just say what 126 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,639 you get and I'm not going to say yes or no to anything. And 127 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,080 I thought that was pretty daunting of a task to do, but I, 128 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,720 you know, just went with it. And I remember her shoe. She 129 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,600 said, you know the name Manny, and I said okay, and so 130 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,600 I started, you know, I closed my eyes and I started to do 131 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,399 some of the things that she had already taught me with in the first few 132 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,840 minutes, and I saw this young boy and he was in his teens, 133 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:37,360 and he was riding a four wheeler and he was in the desert, and 134 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,960 you know, I then saw him on his bed playing guitar. I saw 135 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:50,120 a sombrero. I saw him smoking a cigarette, and I saw him, 136 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,440 you know, I saw that he was of mixed ethnicity. I saw and 137 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,600 so the all of these things that I was saying, they all seemed very 138 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:03,080 random. They seemed almost wrong because they were random, and I didn't know 139 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,840 if any of it was correct. And after about thirty minutes of spouting out 140 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,759 these random things that I was getting, she said, Okay, that's enough. 141 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:15,080 Stop there. And I said okay, and she goes, now let's 142 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:18,960 go over everything. And she says, first, she's like, manny is 143 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,320 my son, and she goes, he is alive. And she goes, 144 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:28,720 so we live in the desert. He rides his four wheeler in the desert, 145 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,360 he plays his guitar on the bed, He's got a sombrero hanging on 146 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,559 his wall. He is part Filipino, part white. Because she's like, 147 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:41,840 I'm white, and his father's Filipino, and he has been smoking some cigarettes, 148 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,720 which I'm not too happy about, but you know, he's a good 149 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:48,039 kid. And this and that, and you know something else. There was 150 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,480 a part of that that I'm not going to mention on here, but it 151 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,720 was. It was really funny, and everything that I had said was correct. 152 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,480 But what it showed me was that it came in very subtly. It 153 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:05,840 was a very subtle information. It came in from thought. It came in 154 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:13,720 in brief just subtle thoughts, flashes, pictures, and if you're not careful, 155 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:18,200 you could just think that it's your own self making it up. But 156 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,960 that's what happened. And that was a very pivotal moment for me because there 157 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:28,919 was no denying that at that moment that I was able to get accurate information 158 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,279 from thin air. Yes. Yes, yeah, so that would be really 159 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,120 amazing. Yeah. And I think what's really interesting as well, it's not 160 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:41,399 just because you had gone through some process of transmutation. It normally happens to 161 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,240 people who are psychic. And I always say to anyone if you have a 162 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:48,639 brain, it's a transmitter and receiver, rather like your mobile phone that receives 163 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:54,759 signals that carries information. So I was really fascinated by the way that your 164 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:01,159 life changed. And one of the most other pivotal pair within your life was 165 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,320 when you were really, really low and you had gone to a place where 166 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,000 a strange lady came to see you in the middle of the dark. You 167 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 understand, and you were there and that was Yeah, that was a very 168 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,120 pivotal moment as well. And that was my first spiritual experience really, so 169 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:22,919 I talk about in the book my first paranormal experience. I talk about my 170 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:30,759 first spiritual experience. The first paranormal experience happened I think years after the spiritual 171 00:14:30,759 --> 00:14:35,960 experience. The spiritual experience was really wild because that was something that happened when 172 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,720 I was at my lowest. As you say, I was about eighteen. 173 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,799 I was really at the bottom of my addiction. This was well before I 174 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:50,279 discovered the paranormal or anything like that. I was driving around at two in 175 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:56,159 the morning. I was I had burned all my bridges with my family and 176 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,559 friends. No one wanted anything to do with me. I remember driving around 177 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,960 two in the morning, streets were bare, you know, and I saw 178 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,799 a church and I pulled into the church and I really was praying to God 179 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:13,840 in a way that I had never prayed before. I was I was just 180 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:18,279 talking to him. I felt like I wanted to confess my sins. There 181 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,399 was something about me getting honest with myself about what I had done in my 182 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,960 addiction. There was something about getting honest with God about what it is I 183 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:37,600 had done. But there was also this desire to confess those sins to another 184 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,320 human being. And it didn't have to be someone that I knew. It 185 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:45,480 really was. I was looking for a priest that I would hope to find. 186 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,559 And I remember pulling in in the rectory, which where the priests stay. 187 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:52,600 I looked and the lights were off, and everyone it was everything was 188 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,440 closed. The church was closed, the rectory, the priests were sleeping. 189 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:02,639 But there was this little grotto outside of the church that was a gated area, 190 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:07,120 small gated area where they had the candles and a couple of pews kneelers 191 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:11,279 and you could kneel in a statue of the Blessed Mother and the Baby Jesus. 192 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:15,159 And I went in and I lit a candle, and I kneeled down 193 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,360 at the one of the two kneelers there, and I was just you know, 194 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,559 uncontrollably crying, and I kept looking over at the rectree, hoping that 195 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,320 maybe someone would come. I really wanted someone to be there, you know. 196 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,120 And out of nowhere, I mean literally, no car pulled in. 197 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,679 I mean there was no sign of any human any one around, and at 198 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,279 of nowhere, this little old woman came walking into the grotto two thirty in 199 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,519 the morning at that point, holding this very little dog. And she didn't 200 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:52,639 say anything to me. She just came in. She looked at me. 201 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,559 She was kind of whispering some prayers to herself. She lit a candle, 202 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,679 she kneeled down next to me. She started praying, you know, her 203 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,839 own self. But then she turned to me and she put her hand on 204 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,680 my shoulder and she said, would you like to confess your sins? And 205 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,839 that was really wild, because that's all I wanted was to do that, 206 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,599 and so that she somehow picked up on that that she was that, you 207 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:27,319 know, and I just started crying even more and she I said yes, 208 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,960 I said yes, please, oh my god, please yes. And she 209 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:38,079 went into her bag and she pulled out this little black book. This is 210 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,759 interesting. So she pulled out this little like black book kind of something like 211 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,480 this, and this is an interesting book. I'll tell you why. But 212 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,680 so anyway, she, like a priest, pulls out the book and just 213 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:56,680 as I would when I was a young altar boy in Catholic school, I 214 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,000 would, I said, bless me, for it has been many, many 215 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,480 years since my last confession. And I've done this, I've done this, 216 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:07,079 I've done this, I've done this, and I went through all of it, 217 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,119 and then she gave me like an act of contrition, you know. 218 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,599 She said, you know, say so many of these prayers and you know, 219 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,559 and this and that, and she goes, and I wanted to get 220 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:18,880 She goes, I want to give you something, and I said, and 221 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,400 I stay quiet, you know, and she goes, I really, I 222 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,200 said, I remember saying I couldn't accept anything from you. You've already given 223 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,400 me more than I, you know, could imagine. And she said no. 224 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:34,119 She goes on my on my father's deathbed, he wore a scapular every 225 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:40,440 day of his life, and on his deathbed he gave this to me. 226 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,079 And God is telling me that I have to give it to you. And 227 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,119 I said, I cannot accept something as significant as that, and she said, 228 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,039 no, you must. He wants you to have it, and she 229 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,680 gave it to me, and she as quickly as she was there, she 230 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:02,680 got up. She had her daughter, her little dog with her, and 231 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,759 she bent the corner of the grotto. I must have waited about I mean, 232 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,680 fifteen seconds, if that maybe, and then I got up and looked, 233 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,119 and of course she was not there. There was no car, there 234 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,960 was nothing, She was gone. I tell that story in the book. 235 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,240 I tell that story sometimes in interviews, and I don't tell people that, 236 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,799 oh, I believe that she was you know, you know, I believe 237 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,119 she was a real person. I'm not going to say that she was just 238 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:38,960 you know, some kind of but she you know, it really showed me 239 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:47,079 that God, if you speak to him and you really need help, that 240 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,160 no one is out of his reach, that he could put another child of 241 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,960 his in your vicinity to help. I have the scapular today. Still. 242 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,440 These are them, and I have them, and I keep them in my 243 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:06,720 little box on my altar. I have an altar over here, and I 244 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:11,359 keep them in my box because they are It's a real treasure. The reason 245 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:18,000 I also, and what's interesting about it is that my aunt she was reading 246 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,200 my book and she was really blown away by my book. And she was 247 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,799 reading my book about a year ago, and she said, she goes, 248 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:33,720 I got to that part. And then she goes, I went into my 249 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,480 room after reading that part of the book, and she goes, and I 250 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,599 found this black book on my nightstand. And she goes, Josh, I 251 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:48,279 got to tell you something. I don't own this book. I don't have 252 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,440 this book. I don't know where this book would come from. She says. 253 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,319 This is a book that is like a little prayer book. And she 254 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:03,119 says, and I I don't I know for a fact, I don't own 255 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,279 this book somewhere, and I definitely wouldn't have put it on my nightstand. 256 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:10,480 I don't own this book. It showed up. I don't know if it's 257 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:14,599 the book that the woman had. But it's very interesting. It's almost like 258 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,359 something called like an aport. An aport is an object that is that comes 259 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:25,680 from another dimension. Spirits can take an object, pull it into their dimension, 260 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,079 and bring it back out and put it back somewhere else around us. 261 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,880 So together these two things are are very important, very interesting. You know 262 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,480 that it is. And so you know, years later, when Nicky and 263 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:42,960 I got our ability, we asked God or we asked, you know, 264 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:49,480 our connection about that, and they said that it was a manifestation of an 265 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:53,680 angel. And you know, I have a hard time with that, you 266 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,759 know what I mean. I mean, I don't say I doubt it, 267 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,559 but I just had it's it's I know, the woman was real, but 268 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,480 it was a manifestation of an angel, she said. And I said, 269 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:11,200 yeah. But the woman took the scapular off her neck. She gave this 270 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 to me. I have a physical object, she says, And the channeling 271 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,640 that came through said the scapular was already in the grotto, already there. 272 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:26,400 It was there already, and that I think it's amazing, you know, 273 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,359 because when you know you hear this so often. And of course, sure 274 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:36,559 you are very much like me. I mean, I'm after the truth, 275 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:41,119 theoretical aspects, you know, no nonsense. You certainly are very much a 276 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,279 grounded gentleman. You want the truth. You can feel it when you're reading 277 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:48,519 your book finding openly afterlife that it frustrates you. And we won't go into 278 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,559 those areas that you were not or you found very difficult people who were not 279 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,880 what they profess to be. But you can really feel from the words from 280 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,880 your the book is from the heart. And you know, don't be too 281 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,839 hard on yourself with regards to that, because I had an experience, well 282 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,039 quite a number actually, but one of them was through the manifestation of a 283 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,759 dead friend who passed with Kant's age twenty and the synchronicities that developed were very 284 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:19,039 strange, rather like your synchronicities with regards to this lovely lady with a small 285 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,880 dog giving you some items, and then of course your auntie then finding this 286 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:29,480 book on her side. It is all affirmations to you to show you from 287 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:33,799 the highest source of the divine because you work within the Christ's consciousness. I 288 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:37,119 know that you are connected to Jesus and you know that that energy, that 289 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,279 force interlinks with you. But what is really amazing is not just the open, 290 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,160 raw honesty of your youth, but also your way in you kind of 291 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,920 like help heal people because we feel your pain as you're going through this process 292 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,960 of transmutation. And NICKI is your wife. Way, you have a lovely 293 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 wife. You're a father of two children. Now I understand all three. 294 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:07,000 I'm sorry, well done, congratulations she's two months old, Oh lovely, 295 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,039 well done. So but here in England, it's like I found you a 296 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,920 little bit later. But I have to say also, you're a filmmaker as 297 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,920 well. You're a filmmaker and you really turn things around. But the most 298 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:25,279 incredible part is that with regards to your dedicated research into the EVP that's Electronic 299 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:30,240 voice phenomena, you know, category of spirit communications, you seem to have 300 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:36,759 worked timelessly with your wife and other people and other researches and are maintaining more 301 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,240 of a stronger connection because it's not just about the apparitions Josh with you or 302 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,960 the reports that you have or anything like that. There is this need in 303 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,519 you to actually touch, almost touch them, reach out to them, and 304 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:53,839 that is so heartfelt. So tell us how did you get involved with the 305 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,359 research that you are into now, because you know you will. We'll put 306 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,119 the description and the links below about your amazing YouTube channels, because I know 307 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,759 I've heard de Laus Canon coming through with you and other personalities. But what 308 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:12,240 was how did this all? How did this all develop on this scale? 309 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,640 Yeah? No, that's a great question. So while I was developing my 310 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,519 intuitive ability, I never stopped working with the equipment. The equipment was always 311 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,440 something that really started as my first love. I didn't think I was going 312 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:30,559 to become some intuitive medium that had done three thousand, over three thousand readings. 313 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:37,000 I really was just working with the boxes, the equipment, the recorders, 314 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,880 the different things, and I was capturing such amazing things through there. 315 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,319 But I found that in order for that stuff to really work, I had 316 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,519 to tune into my intuitive ability, and so you know, I got way 317 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:55,720 more than I bargained for when I was kind of, you know, beginning 318 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,960 of that journey. So I was developing working on my intuitive ability, but 319 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:06,720 I was still working on you know, the equipment and one of the sessions 320 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,079 I talk about, and you know, one of the things about my book 321 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,799 is that when you're reading my book, you'll hit a number, a little 322 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:17,519 footnote, and you'll go down to the bottom and there will be a corresponding 323 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,799 video. That's the joy of kind of growing up on YouTube in the sense 324 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,279 of my journey has been documented from day one, almost on the channel. 325 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,960 So what's amazing is that you know, while you're reading a story in the 326 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,160 book or an experience, you can shoot down to the bottom and there's a 327 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,960 video that corresponds to a book playlist on my channel, and that video will 328 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,039 be what I just talked about in the book. Now you can watch the 329 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:51,039 original video. One of the sessions that I did early on that was very 330 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:57,319 like important. It was a foundational piece of my of my journey when it 331 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:03,920 comes to the ITC instrument transcommunication is that I was doing a session. I 332 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,880 had all my equipment out, my boxes, all my things going, and 333 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,079 I was doing a session where I could see a door and I said, 334 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,039 I'm going to open this door and I'm going to let some spirit in. 335 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:22,200 And I said, I see spirit coming in. I said, I see 336 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 one, two, three, four, five, And then a voice comes 337 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,039 through, who is There's too many? And then you can hear a door 338 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,279 sound. And then I said, okay, on the other side of this 339 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,119 other door, there's an angel. I feel there's an angel there. And 340 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,319 I was seeing all of this and they go, well, that's why I'm 341 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:41,319 here, you know. And then I said, well, I've got these 342 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,640 chairs. I'm envisioning these chairs that are out for you guys. And they 343 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,799 said, I could see the chairs. We're in the chairs, we're sitting 344 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,559 in the chairs. So what was going on was I was seeing things which 345 00:27:52,839 --> 00:28:00,000 in my mind feels like it's my imagination and so yeah, they could see 346 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,240 the door, they could interact with the door, they could interact with the 347 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,119 chairs, they could interact with all these thought forms, these things that I 348 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,440 was seeing, they were seeing as well. That really showed me that there 349 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:18,680 was something about what I was seeing, what I was feeling, they were 350 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:25,000 validating and verifying through the equipment. So that was like for me, like 351 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,240 metaphysical. That was like quantum physics. That was something in a very very 352 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:36,559 interesting that was mind blowing to me. So that's when I continued, you 353 00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:41,039 know, my instrumental transcommunication. It really went to the next level. I 354 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:47,480 then started asking for people's loved ones through the box and using my ability, 355 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:52,599 so I connected them intuitively as a psychic medium. And when I feel like 356 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,839 I have a connection that's there and I'm seeing them or hearing them, then 357 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,359 I would ask for them through the equipment and they would come through and they 358 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,880 would say, yes, I'm here, I'm right next to you, or 359 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,720 you know, yes you were right what you just saw and described yes you're 360 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,599 right, you know, and they would say that through the box. So 361 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,599 now that really helped me believe more in what I was getting. It was 362 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,079 like it was like a validation for a medium, which most mediums wouldn't think 363 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:22,960 to do any of this stuff. They kind of stick with their ability. 364 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:30,119 Most paranormal people just want the equipment. They don't really normally kind of you 365 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400 know, they might invite a medium out with them to a location once in 366 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,359 a while, but they're more you know, instrumental based. The mediums are 367 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,039 more intuitive based. And then I here, I am in the middle where 368 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,440 I want to incorporate both things. I want to bring them together, and 369 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:51,119 I think that they belong together. I don't believe that they should be separated. 370 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,759 And then so after getting some of the loved ones to come through, 371 00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,160 I then started to ask for well known people. Now what's interesting about that 372 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,559 is that you know, some will say, well, you don't know it's 373 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,960 them, and I say, you're right, I don't know it's them, 374 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,839 you know, And they go, you can't claim it's them. I say, 375 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240 no, I can't. I can't claim it's them. I can't say 376 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,039 I know that I spoke to you know, Kobe Bryant or John Lennon or 377 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,519 Marilyn Monroe or you know any of these other wonderful people that I've asked for. 378 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:29,039 I can't say that I know for sure. All I can do is 379 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,240 use my ability and place that spirit cell phone call to them, see if 380 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,839 they show up, See if I pick up any information from them on my 381 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,920 own, which any of us can do. We can all do that if 382 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,279 we wanted, if we wanted to hone in that ability, we all if 383 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:49,440 we have a loved one that has passed on, all we need to do 384 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,640 is focus on their face, close their eyes, focus on their face, 385 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:57,720 maybe put on a song of theirs, smell a cologne or perfume they wore, 386 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,119 something like that, and then start talking to them. That place is 387 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,559 a call to them and they will hear that. You can just start talking 388 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,000 to them and they will hear that. So I would do that with well 389 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,839 known people, and I would start picking up information myself, and then I'd 390 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:21,160 ask through the box and they would and I would capture very very clear, 391 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:30,359 very detailed and accurate messages from them, I believe, and a lot of 392 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,839 times they would answer things or say things that only they would know, or 393 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,000 things that I didn't know at all. And then later on someone would say, 394 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,839 you know what's crazy about that is this person used to do this, 395 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,000 or used to say this, or used to you know, they did go 396 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,119 to this place and I had no clue of that. So, you know, 397 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,160 the viewers would point things out that I had no idea about. But 398 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,759 you know, a super fan out there would see the session or something and 399 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,839 they would say, you know, it's like a super fan of Marylands or 400 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480 super fan of John Lennon's or something would say, you know, that's what 401 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,839 that guy would do. Yet's how he would talk, that's what he would 402 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880 say, and I would you know, I would go, I don't. 403 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,519 I didn't know any of that. That's what makes this so amazing. Yes, 404 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,160 so it's very compelling evidence that it is them, and I believe it's 405 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,039 them. But you know, to argue that with someone is kind of pointless. 406 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:23,640 But you know, at the end of the day, you know you 407 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,519 have conscious dissidence and there's going to be some people that will never sway their 408 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:35,079 opinion. Even if we go back into Genesis, into the original Acadian Samarian 409 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,480 text, it tells us something to given more incredible. But I think and 410 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:45,279 feel that it's important for you and your work, especially the number of signs 411 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:51,240 and interactions that you've had, and also the incredible life piece that came into 412 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:58,640 your life that was obviously from the Christ consciousness and very much an element that 413 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,839 was to secure Well, I'm just saying to the audience here that I can 414 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,200 actually see that and it is beautiful, absolutely beautiful, because this is all 415 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 mentioned your book. Yeah, I keep this in that little box. I 416 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,640 keep that, this and these together with the flower that I had when I 417 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,559 was initiated into Crea yoga. Those are the treasures my spiritual treasure box. 418 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440 I mean, you know, to anyone else, they wouldn't be worth a 419 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:29,400 dollar, but to me, they're worth millions and millions of spiritual dollars to 420 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,680 me in a sense, because they are absolutely priceless. And the date that 421 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,319 I have on there is twelve twelve thirteen, and that is the date that 422 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,240 I carved this piece. This is the original piece. I was given the 423 00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:49,519 channeling of this design and I rushed home and from the spirit world, from 424 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,960 the astral world, the channeling came, and then I brought it back into 425 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,240 the physical with this piece. And you know, since then, I've even 426 00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:04,440 carved another another version of it. This was the second one I carved, 427 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:13,360 and this is carved from olive wood pruned from trees that were two thousand years 428 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,880 old in the Holy Land. So this is actually from a tree that could 429 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,760 have very easily been around when when when Christ was around. I mean, 430 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,719 these are trees that are two thousand in the in the garden of Gathssemite. 431 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,599 And but yes, this was the original piece that I that I carved. 432 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,960 And it's an amazing design. Man, it's it's really I go into a 433 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,360 whole thing about it. In fact, I don't even I'm not even able 434 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,360 to really touch up on everything. Yeah, there's so many amazing connections to 435 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,280 this design. So, you know, I was sitting with Connie one day. 436 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,480 We were you know, she told me later on that, you know, 437 00:34:52,840 --> 00:35:00,239 the the j guide that she communicates with, she said, is Geesus. 438 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,079 And I said, oh, come on, I said, what are 439 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,199 you doing to me? Why are you telling me this now? I said, 440 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:07,920 this is like come on, you know, it was really hard. 441 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,360 I said, I could believe it. You're talking to spirit, but now 442 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:15,480 you're channeling Jesus. You know, I said, that's a little ridiculous, 443 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,199 don't you think? And she goes, I understand, she goes, But 444 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:24,239 you know, and you know, that personality, that consciousness knew that I 445 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,880 would feel that way. But he was still very loving in his approach when 446 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,039 I would ask questions. So I was sitting with her one day, we 447 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:37,320 were having coffee, and I said, you know, okay, I said, 448 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,360 you you said that that personality Jay is Jesus. She says yeah. 449 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:45,440 I said, all right, let me ask him a question. If that's 450 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,599 the case, let me ask a question, I said, Jay, Jesus, 451 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,639 if this is you, I said, you know, you were a 452 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,880 craftsman. You were a woodworker, a craftsman when you were alive, a 453 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,599 carpenter. Some would call you, what did you make when you were alive, 454 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,280 you know? And he said, I would make tables and chairs, 455 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,280 I would make the yoke that would go on the back of the oxen to 456 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,239 pull for the for the you know, for the garden, for the crops, 457 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,480 and because I would make some other things. He goes, and I 458 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:21,400 used to make a little spiritual keepsake for people, A little keepsake for people 459 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,320 that encapsulated my word. It held my word and my word. You know. 460 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,039 That's a very interesting. So I was like, I've never heard of 461 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,679 this. I said, I've been to Catholic school. I've been I grew 462 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,639 up in the Catholic Church. I've never heard of you making. You know, 463 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,079 Wooden keepsakes for people. And I said, could you show us what 464 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:45,960 they are? Could you explain that to me? And and Connie said, 465 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,239 you know, I think he's telling me that. Yes, you know, 466 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,679 he could show me. She goes, could you get me a piece of 467 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,280 paper and a pen. I think I can actually see what he's showing me. 468 00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:59,360 And I got her a pen and paper and she sat there and you 469 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,639 could see that she didn't. She was kind of drawing this thing out and 470 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:07,239 she drew a circle, and she drew this dot in the middle, you 471 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,960 know, and she drew these lines that ran away from it, and then 472 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,239 she drew these dots along the side, and this line and all this, 473 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,119 and you know, and I said, what is that? It looks like 474 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:21,480 a flower of some kind or something. What is that supposed to be? 475 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:27,199 And she started writing words down next to the lines, next to the dots, 476 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,960 and she explained, you know, he explained through her that the dot 477 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:37,199 in the middle is God, and the lines that run away from him are 478 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,719 there's something called well, it's fear. The lines are fear that run us 479 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,679 away from God, and they run to these fourteen outer points, these little 480 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:52,239 dots on the side. There's fourteen outer qualities, fourteen inner qualities, and 481 00:37:52,280 --> 00:38:00,559 the fourteen outer qualities makeup of anger, fear, resentment, jealousy, lust, 482 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,960 malice, and the list goes on and there's fourteen of those qualities. 483 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:12,239 And there's a line that runs along the fourteen outer outer points and it's called 484 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920 the ring of fear. And when we get into those outer points, we 485 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,079 can just keep going round and round and round in that ring of fear and 486 00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:27,599 staying in those outer qualities that really can keep us very much away from the 487 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,880 you know, God, And so we're we're just kind of running around away 488 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,079 from God in those outer qualities. But there's fourteen inner qualities, and that's 489 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:42,920 love, joy, bliss giving, you know. And the list goes on, 490 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,960 and those fourteen inner qualities they have a point. They point us back 491 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:52,159 to God. Now, what's interesting. On a two D level, it 492 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,000 looks like that, but on a three D level, it's it's got an 493 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,559 ascension, it's a it's a dome shape. And so when we're with God, 494 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:07,880 we're at the top. But the lines bring us down and they bring 495 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,320 us they, you know, they lower our vibration and the word vibration is 496 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,280 very interesting because I'm gonna, you know, share something about that. But 497 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,360 then again, the fourteen you know, inner qualities bring us back up. 498 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,159 Love brings us back up, and brings us back to the point of God. 499 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:32,039 So right there holds his word, his teachings, all his teachings, 500 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,559 his word. But he said it holds my word. Now what's interesting about 501 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:42,480 that is this many years later, after having my life piece and holding on 502 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,400 to it, and you know, I walk with it in my pocket and 503 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,599 I give a carved some out. I gave them away as gifts to people. 504 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,599 I even have these. I even had these, which I'll send you 505 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:57,000 one. I mean, it's it won't cost much. But I had these 506 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:00,760 wooden nickels kind of you know, printed up, and they have the design 507 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,800 on there. I actually wrote the words on this one. It's so the 508 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,519 fourteen outer points are need, let's see, lust, need, anger, 509 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:21,960 fear, malice, pain, sorrow, envy. I think I'm missing a 510 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,800 few there, but those are those are some of the Some of the inner 511 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,639 is joy, stillness, peace, love, salvation, wisdom, fullness, 512 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:37,280 truth, honesty, security, gratitude, compassion, giving, And those are 513 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,880 the fourteen inner And so yeah, I'll send you one of these when I 514 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,239 can, I'd love to send you one. And so anyway, I remember 515 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:52,840 one day I was on Facebook and I would belong to this group that studies 516 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:59,000 simatics, and simatics is the study of vibration and sound. And you could 517 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:06,400 see the visual depiction of sound by studying it through water or through sand. 518 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,960 You can, you know, use like silk screens with sand and pipe sound 519 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,440 through through a speaker and it will actually create a design based on the different 520 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,159 frequencies of sound. And I was rolling through Facebook, I was in that 521 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,199 cimatics group, and I saw this. This guy was holding up a piece 522 00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:30,760 of ice. What he did was he piped through a frequency into a little 523 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:39,119 bowl of water and then he flash froze the design that it made in the 524 00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:44,199 water. And he was holding up this little piece of ice and the piece 525 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:50,679 of ice had this design. It was a it was a dot like a 526 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480 like a dot with with it was the whole design of the life piece. 527 00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:00,159 And I said to him, I said, what frequency were you using to 528 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,079 make that design? And he says, oh, I was using the frequency 529 00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:12,360 one eleven one one one. So I went online and I googled one one 530 00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:20,320 one hurts frequency and it is known as the Holy frequency. Wow, so 531 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,480 I dig deeper, I go even deeper. And there's something called the Maltese 532 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:37,159 Hypogeum. The Maltese Hypergem is a megalithic underground site in Maltese, in Malta, 533 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:44,920 and it is an old temple that even predates Christ. And it is 534 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:52,719 a it's carved out of one rock pretty much underground where people would go to 535 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,599 they would go to worship higher power. Now, what they foil was there 536 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:08,280 was a very very well done scientific study done about megalithic sites and at what 537 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,920 frequency they resonate on. Well, this site resonates between one ten and one 538 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:22,199 twelve, specifically at one eleven. That is the frequency that this when you 539 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:28,000 go in there and you take the resonance of this, of this whole location, 540 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,800 it resonates at one eleven. Now, this is what's interesting about that. 541 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:39,480 Why one eleven? Why would these people want one eleven? First of 542 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:45,920 all, one eleven is the sound of a man's voice. It's the sound 543 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,519 of a man's voice. Now when Christ said to me, this holds my 544 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,679 word. Now that's interesting. So it is literally the frequency of a man's 545 00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,079 voice. But why one eleven. Why would these people want this, this 546 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:07,800 worship megalithic structure to to resonate at one to eleven. The reason being is 547 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:15,079 that when the human brain this is a tuning fork, and the tuning fork 548 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:22,039 is one eleven house you can order this and you won't be able to really 549 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:23,840 hear it, probably, but let's see now that you can hear that, 550 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:32,440 so anyway you can. So when this frequency is applied to the brain, 551 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:42,440 it will move your brain activity from the prefrontal cortex to the right side, 552 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:52,440 right dominant side, which is responsible for your creativity, your intuitive capabilities. 553 00:44:53,239 --> 00:45:02,920 We have to perceive God with our intuitive capabilit in that megalithic structure, that 554 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:09,639 worshiping structure, you would go in there it resonated at one eleven. It 555 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:17,280 would then help move you from your prefrontal cortex into a right side, you 556 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:23,360 know, right dominant brain side, and that would help you get more in 557 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,000 touch with your intuitive side, which would in turn help you connect with your 558 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,920 higher power. Wow, I've got to say, Josh, I am absolutely 559 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:40,840 totally blown away by buy that. I was too, because just like Christ's 560 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,679 words, the red in the Bible and the New Testament, a lot of 561 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:55,079 his his his words have a very poignant meaning. On the surface, you 562 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,360 can see something, read what he says, and from it don't have to 563 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,360 really think about much of what he just said. You can take in the 564 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,480 message that it says right there. But there's also a deeper, gnostic, 565 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:16,440 metaphysical message even underneath it. That it's not just a surface meaning that there's 566 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,519 something else. So the fact that there's this very powerful message with the dot, 567 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:28,320 the lines, the fourteen outer fourteen inner qualities, I mean, just 568 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,599 holding this and thinking about what this stands for will help bring you back into 569 00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:37,480 those inner qualities and get you out of anger, get you out of fear, 570 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,280 bring you into love, bring you into joy, bring you into trusting 571 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:46,039 your higher power. Right but when you know that this is actually the design 572 00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:54,320 of the one to eleven holy frequency that also has the ability to help bring 573 00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:00,920 you out of a logical state and more into an intuitive stete day, I 574 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,800 mean, that is something pretty amazing. At my events, I've brought this 575 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,679 with me and I've dune it, you know, and I'll put it on 576 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,719 people's head and you will hear that resonance, that frequency throughout your body. 577 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,360 It's pretty remarkable man, and well, you know, I tell you, 578 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,280 even for myself, we are looking for the truth, the whole truth, 579 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,639 and of course nothing but the truth. And we understand about vibration frequencies. 580 00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:32,639 But hi, Josh, I have to tell you that is absolutely incredible and 581 00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,840 made the hairs on the back of my next stand on end literally about not 582 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:45,960 only you receiving the messages through Connie as the mediator from Jesus, but then 583 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:52,599 creating this life piece, which is a structured piece which to show people how 584 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,960 to live life, basically the right way to live life. And then if 585 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,960 you live life, you can literally just I mean, if it's that simple, 586 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960 it's just not that easy, right, It's not easy, it's but 587 00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,639 it's not easy. And you know what's amazing is in twenty nineteen, during 588 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,880 Holy Week, about a week prior to Easter, I was on the phone 589 00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,800 giving a reading and I was talking to a woman and I was channeling her 590 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:24,159 grandmother and the Great The woman on the other side was talking about meeting Christ, 591 00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:29,559 and I was talking about Christ at that moment, and I happened to 592 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,719 look up and I saw the sun was over me, and a cloud was 593 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,320 over the sun, and it looked like an eyeball was looking at me, 594 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,639 and I just took my phone and I snapped it a shot, and then 595 00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:44,119 I went back to my reading. I didn't even look at the photo. 596 00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:45,639 I just left it alone for a couple of days. I didn't look at 597 00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,880 the photo, and I went, oh, I got to look at that 598 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:54,599 photo. And I looked at that photo, and I took this photo where 599 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,559 so there's this photo of Wow, and there's the eye, okay, And 600 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,719 it looked like there's kind of like a face to it, Like I felt 601 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,679 like there was a nose and another eye forming, and like what looks like 602 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,519 a beard That could be a stretch, but that looks like a real eye 603 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,800 and an eyebrow and an eye, and it looks like he's looking at me, 604 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,400 you know. And I felt that it was christ And but then the 605 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,360 woman who I was on the phone with saw the picture. I sent it 606 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,559 to her and she says, Josh, you're gonna look though. She goes, 607 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:35,760 it looks like the life piece is in the photo right there. He 608 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,719 has a circle in the middle and lines running away from it, and it 609 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,400 looked like the life piece undeniable, And I said, that looks very much, 610 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,519 you know. So so I even drew kind of what I saw at 611 00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,679 the time, and I drew the life piece in there. But that's nothing 612 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,480 many years later, and it's not nothing that's very powerful because that design of 613 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,800 the life piece was showing up in absolutely so that was an unnatural design. 614 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,119 You could say, oh the I you're just seeing shapes in the clouds. 615 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:15,199 But to see something that looks very similar to this, yeah, showing up 616 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,960 right there. Yeah. As I said before, it's undeniable to me. 617 00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,559 It is right, and you as well. I can even see it. 618 00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:23,719 Yeah, and it's in your book, thankfully, right, And I put 619 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,920 it in the book. But I didn't get something in the book that I 620 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,119 that I found out later after the book was published, and I wanted to 621 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:36,280 almost print in an amended version of it, but I get I don't know 622 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,639 if I will, I'll just probably, you know, I don't know. 623 00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,840 Maybe I'll have to come up with another book to share more about it, 624 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:49,519 but or you must. I was I was looking at that photo and let 625 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,480 me see if I can show you this really quickly. So I was watching 626 00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:58,559 a special on the Shroud of Torn But you know what the shroud of torn 627 00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:04,800 is, right, Oh, yes, the shroud of torn is the shroud 628 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:10,239 that they say that Jesus was buried in, And this is a smaller version 629 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,639 of it, but this is what they believe. Now there's a whole. 630 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:19,360 This is one of the most studied pieces in history. There's more scientific research 631 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,519 done on this piece than anything else in the world as far as i'm as 632 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,760 far as I understand, if you take a picture of this and you turn 633 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,320 it into a negative, Christ's face will appear just as it is right here 634 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,119 on this tattoo. It will look the same. So I was watching this 635 00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:43,360 special on the shroud one day and something told me to hold up the shroud 636 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,599 to the picture that I took of the clouds, and Josh is just going 637 00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:52,400 to show me on the screen the depiction of the shroud, and of course 638 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:58,960 his photograph that shows the image of Christ a lion, and also his life 639 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,840 piece. Your computer. Oh yes, I can see that wow face. 640 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,840 Yeah. And then I lay over the face the shroud of touring and it 641 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,440 matches up perfectly to the face that I captured in the clouds. Now, 642 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,880 if you see you over you can you see my mouse, my little cursor? 643 00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,880 Yes, I can. So you see right here these little blood like 644 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,199 these bloodstains. They even match up with the blood stains on the shroud. 645 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:29,639 WOA matches up. And I did a transparent version as a gradual. You 646 00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:34,639 can also see the gradual of the life piece over. Wow. That is 647 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,719 awesome. And you know, just to the listeners, Josh is just showing 648 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,519 me his photograph that he took that depicts the face of Christ and also his 649 00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:49,800 life piece, and then superimpose the image of the you know, croud of 650 00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:54,559 Christ over his picture, and it's there's a match. So that is it's 651 00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:00,840 absolute, it's perfect match. I can actually sit totally. That is absolutely 652 00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:07,599 amazing. I just can't believe that. That's awesome. Okay, so we're 653 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,760 back. We're back. Yeah. Wow, that is absolutely incredible. I 654 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,039 mean, you know, and just to say, I mean, you know, 655 00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:16,840 we've we've only got about seven minutes left. But you know, your 656 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:22,119 whole research, your book Finding Hope in the Afterlife, and of course that 657 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:28,880 was published by Balboa Press, a division of hay House, a big publishing 658 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,360 company, and of course you know your connection with the Hope also help us 659 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,480 of power normal Entities is absolutely incredible. So I don't think, to be 660 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:45,559 honest with you, Josh, that you need any more convincing for yourself because 661 00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:50,199 there is nothing to be convinced of. The phenomena has connected with you, 662 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:55,440 and I think more so with regards to Christ and also the life piece and 663 00:53:55,519 --> 00:54:00,760 the evidence that you've had through photography and then of course through vibration. This 664 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,280 is absolutely astounding. So I want to ask you, I'm just very quickly 665 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,400 here about Hope. Tell us about Hope, the actual you know, the 666 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,840 program that you have and that you know how this is helping other people. 667 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,960 Josh, So, Hope originally started, as you just mentioned, an acronym 668 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:27,119 for helpers of paranormal entities helpers of paranormal entities. But now as it's kind 669 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,159 of gone through the years, I've kind of adapted the acronym to being more 670 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,880 of helping other people evolve. That's really what it's been more about, because 671 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,840 it's not just about helping on the other side. It's helping people here, 672 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,639 helping both sides this work. I mean, it's really Christ that's doing all 673 00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:45,639 of this, and the guides that are helping, the angels that are helping. 674 00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:50,800 You know, I'm a vessel at times. It's an honor to be, 675 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,599 you know, a channel of His piece when he chooses to use me 676 00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:59,639 in that way. So I don't claim to be some kind of you know, 677 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,280 or anything like that or anything of that nature. I'm just grateful that 678 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360 I get to do what I've been able to do and he's used me for 679 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,480 that. But I feel like he's using the hope channel, the book, 680 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,679 the app that I created, the life piece, trying to bring it back 681 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,760 out there, and I have yet. I mean, I still have a 682 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,599 lot more to do with this. I don't even know what I'm supposed to 683 00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:27,280 fully do with it other than just give it away at times and share it 684 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,719 with people. But there's something still more, because there's more that keeps revealing 685 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,960 itself. But I just keep on, you know, I do these sessions 686 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,159 with well known people I ask i'd help regular people's loved ones. I share 687 00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:45,320 it as much as I can. I just got done holding a live event 688 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,480 in Saint Augustine, Florida, which is the first oldest city in the United 689 00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:54,760 States, and you know, it was just an amazing event. It's the 690 00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:00,199 fourth one that I've done and no fifth one that I've done, and it's 691 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,719 just amazing to be able to do that. When get in contact, you 692 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,039 know, being in person with people, so I don't know where else I'm 693 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:12,559 supposed to go with it. I just keep kind of it gets tiring. 694 00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,159 Sometimes there are times that like it can get I can get a little burnt 695 00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:20,199 out as I'm trying to kind of keep it going. But you know, 696 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,519 I turn inward, I meditate, I ask for guidance and I trust that 697 00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:29,639 I get it, and then I go where I'm led. So you know, 698 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,760 who knows what else is supposed to happen. I think you know, 699 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,079 Josh, you have done an amazing job, and you know we all get 700 00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:43,760 not you know, with any field, within any category, there are always 701 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,400 others who will disagree or not find what they want through you. But you 702 00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,920 have to understand that even though you sometimes feel like you're standing on your own 703 00:56:53,039 --> 00:57:00,239 with your family, there are many many people out there who really value what 704 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,840 you do. And you have brought evidence to the table because people always say 705 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,920 I want proof. I mean, if you were to bring a piece of 706 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,559 the roswell debris in front of you and showed it to people, they still 707 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:15,599 wouldn't believe that that was evidence. But you have categorically proven to your readers, 708 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:21,519 listeners, to your viewers as well, that there is another side, 709 00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:24,440 that we transcend space time, that life is not just monotonous, that we 710 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,519 don't live and die, that Christ came to give us a message of hope, 711 00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:34,679 and he's working through you as the instrument. And I think it's yeah, 712 00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:37,840 now, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Well, so tell us, 713 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:42,679 Josh, I mean, you know, where can people find you? You 714 00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,039 know? Yeah, I mean, you know, Hope, Paranormal dot com 715 00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,000 is really the best way because then you can find my app, you could 716 00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,000 find the book, you could find my channel, you can find the articles 717 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:58,199 that I've written, you can find my whole group sessions for people on Patreon. 718 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,679 So I have a number of different things, but I think Hope paranormal 719 00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:07,519 dot com is probably the main hub to find everything that you need. And 720 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:12,239 we do want another book from you, definitely. Yeah. I started to 721 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,039 kind of dabble in writing. I kind of started again something about Conversations with 722 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:22,840 Spirit, where it was about some of the transcripts of the conversations I've had 723 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,920 with some and then explaining them. But I haven't finished it, and I'm 724 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,679 really I've just been trying to maintain what I'm doing. It's kind of a 725 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,320 nut, it's kind of hard you know, and then being a father to 726 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,480 three, and so there's a balance that I'm supposed to find, and you 727 00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:39,320 know, the cost of living goes up, and you know, so I 728 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,119 have to keep managing, and it's it's been it's been tough. There's there's 729 00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:47,039 been some really tough moments where I'm just trying to find the balance. But 730 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:52,519 I definitely want to come out with another book at some point. I'm grateful 731 00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:54,639 for people finding the one that I've written, as I put two and a 732 00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:59,119 half years of my life into writing that book. That took a lot of 733 00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:04,519 time an effort to put that book together, because that wasn't just me sitting 734 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,119 down and writing it was it was a lot of research that went into it, 735 00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:12,360 a lot of compiling of evidence that I have that I had captured and 736 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,079 gathered, and so it was it was a lot. So I think the 737 00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,400 images as well of you with the orb phenomena is absolutely incredible, you know, 738 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,119 the images, So yeah, absolutely, I mean the book is absolutely 739 00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:29,400 stounding. So I will say to your listeners out there, josh that Finding 740 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,039 Hope in the Afterlife in the book by Joshua Lewis and an amazing book. 741 00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:39,199 I have to say to you one of the most honest, candid accounts that 742 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:45,719 one man's struggle with not only his past but also his present and future in 743 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:51,760 embracing a new reality and a reality that he himself has brought to the jungle 744 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,840 public not just through the written word, but through actual physical proof and which 745 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,599 also has astounded the author himself. And I just have to say to you, 746 01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:05,599 Josh, thank you so much. It's such an honor to get you 747 01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:07,880 on board. I know we had a little bit of a problem, but 748 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,119 we got there in the end. Oh we did absolutely no. I'm grateful 749 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:16,159 for it, and your messages were so kind, and it's an honoring time 750 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,199 someone finds this work and wants to talk about it. I'm always willing to 751 01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:27,079 do so. And you've been very kind and graceful. So thank you so 752 01:00:27,199 --> 01:00:30,559 much. You're very welcome, and I have to say, once again, 753 01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:35,599 finding hope in the afterlife, you won't be disappointed at all by this book. 754 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,400 It is beautiful and it really is heartfelt, really indeed, so thank 755 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,639 you very much for coming on board. You've been listening to Pan normal UK 756 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:50,519 radio network Twin Souls to your host Philipkinsella our esteemed guest Joshua Lewis. Stay 757 01:00:50,599 --> 01:01:22,760 safe and keep believing