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This is a couple's journey into the mysterious, the unknown and the paranormal.
I'm your host Chris Carr and I'm your host Christy Johnson. Together we
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Yeah, it was another story, bigger story to that we're not gonna tell
you about that. Brandy comes back on Brandon. We love Brandon and also
in speaking of him, we wanted to say um, our great friend Lynn
Monee is now working with Brandon with Skydoor Entertainment and her show Synchronicity with Lynn
Monee will be on at the same time, but it's gonna be through skydro
so some of the links will be a little different and we're gonna we'll share
them because we love everybody involved. So wishing here the best with Brandon,
who yes, awesome dude. SOS Lynn and we're all family, great people.
Uh. Recently we were at Brandon's para con in Pickens as a lot
of you guys know the Haunting at the Mill at the hy Good Mill,
and we're all hanging out and we got to schmis with our guests. That's
coming on yes today. Uh, she is awesome. Let me tell you
a little bit about her. We'll get right to right to our show.
Her name is Lee Chiana Brown and she's a paranormal investigator, a shaman,
storyteller, and public speaker. Is a native Southerner who is well acquainted with
the ghost stories of the South, and her family worked many of the men
on many of the cases. Her writing has appeared on In a Paranorna Underground
magazine, FEAT Magazine, as well as others. She's appeared on several T
shirt TV shows such as My Ghost Story, Caught in Camera, Ghost Inside
My Child, which is yeah, we're going to talk about that. No.
More recently, she's featured in Repossessed as Psychomedium on Hulu, and we'll
talk a little about that as well. Lee is the daughter the late Alan
Terry of the Ross Alan Serpentarium and Judy Terry filmed her last television her first
television commercial, Geez Chris for Romparoom. Remember I can't. When I read
that, I was like, oh my god. We used to watch that
all the time. Oh my god. At the age of four, just
four years old, she traveled with a father and many other famous celebrities,
which included likes of the fabulous Rick Floyer, Elvis Presley, Crystal Gale,
the Beegs, My mom loved the Begs, and many many others. She
is a board member of the Dominion Ministry's Outreach Network, which we're fortunate enough
to be a little part of as well, and love all the folks involved
with Dominion. Um we can talk about that as well, and as speaking
at our paranormal conventions such as the aforementioned Haunting at the Mill Paragon in Pickings.
So without you know, a whole lot of anto here. Let's let's
bring a run on and get to things, because I think we got lots
to talk about. Be a lot of fun. Hello, Hello, how
are you guys? Thank you? We're doing great. How are you?
How are you doing good? Doing good? Thank you for inviting me on
your show. Oh, thank you for Joni Us was really appreciate it.
We had a great time hanging out. Do you in Pickens Picks? That
was fantastic. It does aw you go and I said, oh my gosh,
you're here, and we just ran to each other like running through the
field. Oh there you are wonderful. Yeah, it really was. It
really was. We loved your talk and um and talking to you so,
you know, super interesting. It was a lot of fun. It was
a great event and everybody involved was just so cool and it was it was
a lot of fun. Investigations went really well. We got a ton of
data. We were taking out mostly camped out in a bird iron cabin and
then people come through and doing sessions with folks and oh my gosh, but
what a beautiful location. People are so nice in the South, you know,
And that was yeah. Yeah, even getting something like fast food,
like everybody is just like so nice, you know. But we did find
one thing out right, Yes we did. Did you find out that if
if somebody's being like a little overly nice, like a you know, somebody
in retail and they say, bless you a little heart, a bad thing
you have the inside school? Oh yeah, well that's what we heard.
So I'm like all right, we'll keep an eye out for that or an
ear out, but no. People were genuine and nice and kind, and
then it was a wonderful event, right, dude. Yeah, I belonged
to the South Carolina Cherokee tribe and we're having a pal all there made the
sixth and I'm a clan mother, so I'm there a lot, and I've
mostly been there fors ceremonial reasons. So this was a big surprise for me,
and it was wonderful. It was just wonderful to be able to see
the hey good meal being used for something like the supernatural. You know,
that was for me. And it's not known morning for being a particularly honored
place, but they're definitely spirits are no question. Well, you have to
think Native Americans and indigenous spirits. They are raised the Old way, which
meant that they agreed to be with their families for seven generations in order to
give them training and love and spiritual guidance. So the spirits that are there
are there because they committed to be there. And the reason why it felt
so magical is you have no idea how many spirits were around you sending you
blessings and love you know you were there and you were loved, and I
think that that's a takeaway time someone comes there. Do you think these spirits
that surround people are really there to give them love and support that everybody maybe
has a certain family or ancestors, or maybe unknown spirits that are just the
people. I totally believe that. I know that there have been several spirits
that I've encountered during investigations and haunting, specifically in a residential situation, not
so much commercial. But they're there because there's something else there and they're trying
to tell the family. And once they have a voice, once the family
is able to meet the spirits that are there, I can always see a
healing. And that's why I do what I do. I believe that healing
comes in every stage of life, including death. And if there's something about
the spirit there and there's a reason, if they find love and fulfillment with
that family, even then why not you know, they don't have fleas and
they don't park at night. I like that thing that, especially you know
in times of death and transition, that there would be somebody there to reach
out that you know, maybe the rest of us couldn't see my grandma recently
passed in this house, in my house, and before she passed, she
has a better, stronger gift than me. And but you know, she
was ninety eight when she passed, so I've got a ways to go,
and I do feel that she's still with me. But she told me she
now she was mostly blind, but she could still see spirit and she can
hear them without a doubt. And she told me she could hear her three
brothers in the hallway waiting for her. Wow. Wow, see we hear
that. I think they left after she joined them. But I know she's
been here yet. Actually I'm looking around trying to see her. You know.
Yeah, I lost my dad last year, and uh, Lenny was
really sick, and you know, it was evident that that would be occurring.
It seemed like there were a lot of spirits around. There were a
lot of interesting things. We'd have psychics on our show, for instance,
and they said, I see your grandfather behind you, just out of the
blue. I have no idea about the situation, and you know, it
was just like all right. It was like they were coming in for the
family and him in particular. You know, can you imagine the celebration they
had. I know, it's sad them losing your life, you know,
their life with you, But now they're in the spirit realm and they were
able to see their parents and siblings that they may have lost. It's beautiful,
it truly is it? Truly is articles long as we can admit that
we know we've survived death right, Yes, exactly, exactly, And I
think that's why a lot of people get involved in the paranormal to begin with,
or any kind of metaphysical interest is like sort of that proof and know
that there is something more than the three D existence we exist through and you
know, the teniousness. Sometimes I'm being human, I go, what is
the meaning of all this? You know, is there more? You know,
we want to find that out for ourselves or what happened to people?
Maybe we love that and lost right, it's not all scary and spooky,
and you know, I know some of our background is a little spooky and
stuff, and we love horror movies and things of that nature. But we
also to the side of things where it's actually not scary at all and kind
of beautiful. Your your bio has so many interesting things. We're to begin
but we ask probable right there really because we remember um. I love that
it's a better fact in zoom and some of those other existing ye Captain Kangaroo
um. But to say, well, the first paranormal type experience that you
had, maybe as a child, did you have any experiences that read an
early year? I could see spirit from the time I can remember, and
my grandmother said that that probably would happened. I can remember seeing them,
and then all of a sudden they stopped. And when I was about six
years old, it really started. The floodgate opened and I could see a
lot of things I had. I got the chicken cox and then the medicine
they gave me from the infection because I broke out horribly. I had my
lips were swollen up, my eye was swollen, you know, I had
everything. Everything was broken out. I had a worst case. And this
was before the you know, you can get the immunization shot now and it
kind of keeps it at bay. And I was sick, and then they
gave me medicine for it that made me sicker. And when I saw my
parents come in with all my homework for school, I was like, Oh
my god, I'm gonna be I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die at home,
right, And they're like, no, you're gonna be out for a
couple of weeks, but you're going to pass this. Then my mouth started
breaking out. I've never heard of a child having chicken box in their mouth,
but I did. And my fever was so high. I remember crying
until I fell asleep, and I remember my tears burning the spots on my
face as they were coming down. And I fell asleep, and I heard
a voice telling me I want to show you who I am. I know
you're afraid, don't be afraid. And I thought, oh lord, what
is this? You know what? Now what? Because I'm sick and in
the bed. What's happening? Well, my grandmother told me what may happen
and about angels and they're real, and about spirits and they're real, and
you know how to respond. And it all depends on how I respond as
to how things will go. The first time, you know, excuse me,
I hit my tablet, so um, I said, this might be
an angel. I'm gonna do this right. So I looked over on my
nightstand and I had a some peanuts my grandma brought me and some slim gems
and stuff. And I looked at the bottle and there's you know, the
little peanut guy with the top hat. Yeah, I like that. I
wear a soup and a top hat. And my grandmother watches those British crimes,
you know, crime shows, you know, all the time. And
I said, and have a British accent and I and I can hear him
laughing, and I said, I'm trying to make sure I'm not going to
be afraid. Well, um, I looked up and there he was.
It looked like almost like a snow globe at first, and then it got
fuzzy fuzzy, fuzzy fuzzy, and then a form started coming out of it,
and there he was. He see his I could see the fabrics the
vest of his suit, and see his buttons on his shirt. I could
see he had the monocle, and I could see the change because he came
around to the bed and he said, you couldn't see me with your human
eyes. You wouldn't be able to stand it. And he looked down.
He said, do I please you? And I said, yeah, you
look cool. And he put his hand on me, and I had all
kinds of questions. He said just be quiet. We're not talking about that
right now. And I saw his hand go into my chest, into me,
and I finally slept because I would get so upset I had that fever
and I would vomit, you know, because it was just a vicious cycle.
I would get upset and then being sick, and it would just make
me worse. And I actually slept for you know, a typical nap for
a kid, you know, six hours. And then I told my mom
about it, and she said, I'll be right back. So she he
went and got the house phone, you know, with the great big antenna.
You're the big honking phones, you know, and she called Jenny and
Mama Jenny came straight away. She was in her pacer. Okay, I'm
daring to myself, but I'm just telling you. I want you to picture
it. And I told my grandma about it. She said, baby,
I think you were in the presence of an angel because you've been praying because
you're sick, and I've been praying. Your mother's seen angels. I've seen
angels, and if this is going to follow to you, you did the
right thing by trying to be able, you know, whatever you found funny
or soothing. He accommodated. That tells you he's good. Tell me what
he says, you know, And then she finally kissed me. I got
more, mister peanuts, you know, a little thing, and then she
took off. Well, I went back to sleep again. It happened the
third It didn't happen the second night, but the third night he came back.
He did the same thing, And remember falling asleep laughing, and my
mom suspected it, and she said she sat out stood outside my room in
the hall, and she said that it sounded like bumblebees in a jar.
She couldn't understand it. Wow, it's an interesting Mom used to have heart
attacks when she was little, and she had a situation an angel and my
grandma she had some things happened, and she had one as well. So
I don't know if I got theirs, or I had my own, or
was there one, you know, for the fact, I know that you
know we're a we all have one, but I don't know if that one
was for the family. But after I after I had that experience, I
could hear him more often and he would train me and teach me about responses
and how i'd been chosen. Well, I ended up going to a pow
wow and I saw someone that was a shaman and I explained it to him
and told him what he said. Of course, my m jinny was with
me and he said, sweetheart, you've been chosen your shaman. And that's
when the teaching started. I was six. Wow, that is so interesting.
I think this is me. I'm just going to interject this that in
show up as as mister Peanut and I can relate to this. I didn't
have the kind of positive angelic thing in my childhood, Like my first experiences
were kind of negative and nasty. No, that's that's okay. But he
involved clowns, and I've talked about on the show, like I had these
clown dolls if you will. There were stife figures, you know, given
to me by my parents would love but totally ended up being this nephalious thing.
And that's howful it was shown to me. And I know Kristen's experience
was like with like a shadow people type thing and unfortunately we're like, it's
not a negative, but we the way it can be something positive and the
thing can change, you know, how they appear, because like you know,
when I talk about the clowns sometimes I feel silly. I'm like,
you know your clowns. You know what does that mean? You don't have
demons or whatever? Aliens? Yeah, but they're creepy. You gotta admit
alien inductions and that phenomena and spiritual visitations because sometimes it seems, at least
from like the people we talk to and maybe our own experiences, that they
can present themselves however they want exactly what you said, what mister peanut do
I see you a mister peanut? And yeah, crazy, but it's a
wickie cool story. Yeah, and we say wickie cool you see up there
in the corn? Love it? I love it. I love that knowing
on this so we can get away with that. Love it. Let's go
with it. Realized that, um, the way I was trained about that,
if you've had any kind of paranormal experience as a child, it's if
it's negative, yes, and it being so young the way you described it
to me, Chris and krit Kristen, I want to make sure you know
that they knew you could see them, and they were deliberately trying to stop
you from wanting to see anything, so the negative got to you before like
with mine because I had guidance with Mama, Jennie and mom and it was
expected and all those things and all the prayers around me family deceased members,
you know where my spirit guide. So I mean I had a lot going
on. You guys didn't have that. And this negative thing coming to you
and you can see it, that means it was trying to stop you for
being how strong you can be. And look, you still are strong.
Look what you do. You're in the dominion. I mean, that's the
organization for extreme cases. You were chosen. Thank you were. That might
have been some of your training. You don't know if it was. I
don't know your whole story, but you stop and think about it. It
might have been desensitizing you to the point where you wouldn't be afraid so that
you would be able to face things others. Wouldn't you do it for somebody
else? You don't just do it because it's in your home. You're doing
it on purpose to help someone else. And that is what this platform is
about. You know, we want people to to not feel weird about their
experience and understands all over me. I know, I'm right, you are
right. That's never been said to us before, and I actually believe that
into it, you know, intuitively. Thank you. Great, it's definite.
I mean I have no doubt and you don't have to be indigenous to
have that, right, It's something that's a spiritual thing. It's just spiritual.
Yeah, I think that's great. Um, we found that almost all.
I'm so happy for. Yeah. Yeah, most of I guests,
almost all of them, I've had some kind of experience when they're kids and
as adults. Yes, they are involved in some way shape before and with
it, and it could be again, you know, alien's going to make
that correlation because it's well known that they can change their appearance to the person,
right. They'll sometimes tell them that in abduction cases bigfoot, you know,
bigfoot looking in through the window, or just whatever it is, if
it's a ghost and shadow people or clowns or whatever it is. Like it
has something that happens when we're kids that seems to open us up to those
experiences that they want to talk to us, and that people seem to want
to know the answers as an adult, like maybe I don't know if it's
like in the back of the head, didn't want to know if it's real.
Did that really happen? Is it just you know, crazy kids stuff.
I don't think it is crazy kids stuff. I think the stuff is
very real. I think the kids do experience what they experience for the most
part. Granted we have big imaginations, but you know it goes way as
that, and you want to know some of those answers later in life.
Right, Well, that's part of the reason why we're here. It's the
journey, absolutely, absolutely and kind of a good one. It certainly didn't
stay negative or anything like that. It was just our childhoods. Things are
much better now. Yeah, you mentioned you have this Native American background and
you mentioned angels. How does that translate. Were you raised with like different
upbringings or backgrounds or do Native Americans talk about angels? They call them angels
and Cherokee Okay, because I don't really know, I can't believe that you
ask me that. I'm actually writing a little book about it, the stories
of angels. And they weren't called angels. They're called little people and their
beings that look like children, and they have super long black hair, I
mean to their knees, you know, maybe longer even, and they have
They are sort of ommpotent, like an angel would be. I don't know
if that's the right word, but very all knowing. They have abilities.
They want to teach you things, but they can also teach you a lesson
if you're doing the wrong thing, So you really don't want to make them
mad. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of fairy crosses.
I would love for you to look them up. Okay, there stone crosses
that are found in Jerusalem, in Oklahoma, and in Cherokee. And the
legend is that see the Cherokee prophesied they would be a messiah and that he
would be martyred, and then when they heard about Christ, their hearts were
broken. The little people's hearts were broken, and they cried so hard their
tears turned to stone. So angels are their part. Angel I do have
on my YouTube channel. Now. Look, I've just been putting stuff out
there. It's not professional. I don't have a director, Nobody edits it.
Whatever I managed to get out there there, it is so just excuse
me. But if you'll look at like I think there's a sampler and you'll
see me on a railroad track. I was walking down the railroad track headed
to a haunted, excuse me, enchanted cave on the reservation where little people
were over the years have said to inhabit. And there were some soldiers that
not just soldiers, but prisoners that were building the railroad that were kept in
those caves, and either the people that were prison guards sometimes they had soldiers
to help them to keep the peace. They were at the front of the
cave, but the little people were inside the cave with the prisoners, and
they were teaching them lessons, they had dreams. There's a lot of things
that happened with that. So, um, I'm writing a book and Rex
Nielsen. Are you familiar with him? Okay, well, he's uh yeah,
he was there. I call him t Rex because he's so tall.
He's doing the illustrations for me. Oh, that's very exciting. There's a
story about the thunderbird. Yes, story about the thunderbird and about the bear
man and sasquatch in there. So I hope you guys will enjoy it when
it comes out. It's gonna be kind of tiny. But oh and if
you're interested in my first experience with the supernatural, you're welcome to. I
don't want to plug it, but I would love for you to read it
so I could get your feedback. It's called Family Spirit, Five Generations of
the super Natural. It's on Amazon, Books a million, Barnes and Noble,
Ballmark dot com is everywhere if you okay, if you read the first
one, it's the Man in Blue. And I just found out after my
book came out, my mom finally told me that's what she called her angel,
the Man in blue, and he wore a suit. She wanted him
in a suit. How crazy is that? How could she keep that secret
all this time? You know, what is wrong with you? Why aren't
you telling me stuff? You know that's my mother all the time you're telling
me? Now? Yeah, Now, if you read Bloody Thursday, Bloody
Thursday serious, and you'll see why I married my husband. And you'll see
my daughter's first paranormal experience. The shoe was on the other foot. My
daughter could see something I couldn't. Oh wow, I really hope you guys
will you know, maybe just go on Kindle or something. But those two,
all of those stories mean everything. And I just sent a link out
to Family Spirit to all our chats. Guys can check that out and from
there you can see anything else you've got out there in print, and we
know you're other like some pretty fine books over here. I love this the
origin of four generations of the supernatural. That the is right, and this
is like super interesting. Love it, love it. Yes, what I
did was I got my great I got my great grandmother's and my grandmother's notes
from their investigations, and then my team and I with the current technology plus
my abilities, because I don't never be what Mama Jenny was. I think
she tells me I'm better, but I'm like, nah, nah, you're
the one. But she told me that I just needed to grow in confidence.
But anyway, we went to the same places that they did, and
we investigated our way and compared our notes with theirs, and there's pictures of
the actual place is. If you come back to South Carolina, I'll take
you to them. I'll show you all these places. If you want to
just care, I know, did you ever come back, I'll show you
if you leave now, if you leave about eighteen hours tomorrow, we'll be
doing that. And we would actually a trick. Yeah, it's a bit
of a check. When you drive, you should have probably flown or take
a little time to you know, get down there and seen trying to do
it straight, but which doesn't work out at our age anyways, it should
have been fourteen hours and turn to the eighteen because we have fifteen hours and
the stones and this. How about if I go to the locations and then
do this so you could be live with me and I'm at the location.
Yeah, I'd love to do that. Yes, we would love that.
Well, let's put that in the you know now that the weather's starting to
turn the noggin and think about it. You know, a month, once
a week, you could go with me. I'm teaching paras ecology when I
won at Piedmont Technical College, so you can pont Piedmont. Yeahs a name
that came up in my past life regression that I did while we were down
there, and um, apparently I was somebody named Alice Piedmont and I was
like, I've been wondering since I wasn't a word. It was a Piedmont,
South Carolina. But it's apparently a pretty big city. And as soon
as you told me that, when we left, yeah, Piedmont was everywhere.
It was like a Piedmont license plate in front of our door. It
was, Well, it's actually a location in South Carolina, not just a
town. They call it the Piedmont area of South Carolina. It's um just
before you get to the South Carolina North Carolina border. So it's actually a
location, and so if you look closer there, you might be able to
see if you're related to the family that that was named after. Oh well,
all I got was the symmetry of being a young girl, like eight
years old, in the backseat of a car, and in the car was
in an accident. But I got that my name Alice Piedmont. And yeah,
sure, I tried to look it up, you know, briefly,
I couldn't really find it. Was just so funny because after that, things
everywhere, which I guess it was there the whole time, but you know,
maybe my subconscious sort I don't know. You know, it's interesting how
the subconscious works with anything like that, or you know, whatever you're doing,
a divination, even viewing anything like that. Yeah, sure, I
was hypnotized. I have reoccurring dreams, and I was hypnotized and popped out,
you know, in in state, you know, speaking French. Luckily
the hypnotist could understand French and we figured it all out. It was crazy.
What was another show? I love? Hello, this is great.
No, do you see a corlation between things like the angels or these kind
of little people if you will, and like things like puckwagies that you know
so prevalent and Ireland and also in indigenous cultures here in America? Are they
kind of the same thing to you? Are they are? They are?
And all of those things that you mentioned are part of the same thing.
Um, they're more of an interdimensional being. Okay, okay, and um.
Also they represent the thrones of angels. The choir of Thrones are a
type of angels that can Um. They master the earth, wind, fire,
water, all the weather. Um. It's incredible what they control.
And when I use my medicine wheel or when we look at an indigenous things
that's actually connecting through nature into an angel angelic choir, the thrones, they're
very powerful. They're just a couple of like a couple of the hierarchies,
not that far from the archangels. Wow. Yeah. But the idea is
that you don't need to it's disrespectful. According to the way I was taught,
it's disrespectful to ask God for things. When He's given you so much
already, learn to appreciate what you've already got, including your spiritual gifts and
the gifts He's already given you in the earth. That's why that type of
energy is utilized and used, because God's already given us earth, when fire
water, we are part of the earth through part of the sky. And
so it's kind of disrespectful. It's not like, you know, He's going
to make wishes and grant them. It's better to earn, work hard and
appreciate what you've got and understand what's already been given to you. Sorry,
I had to blurt for a proof of that. Yes, enough of it
on our own. Yes. And when we say great Spirit, the Great
Spirit is the Father's son, and the Holy Spirit encompasses the Great Creator.
All of that, um, we're speaking to the earth, wind, fire
water, all the angels, all the archangels, heavenly Father. All of
that's relative because that's the way it was set up with the Cherokee. Everything
was in place. We just wanted a messiah. We said he was coming,
and he did. It sounds like some different labels, you know,
And that seems to be true of a lot of cultures, you know,
the exactly existing across culturally, U through you know, world internationally cultures.
Excuse I can't speak here of the Filipinos and things I mean to perfectly.
I think I look at them as like non human energies, that something is
different and isn't human, maybe was never human, but definitely exists. And
maybe there's there's levels above that, and there's a sort of deity thing,
and there's energies that are just got a whole mother feeling energy about them and
abilities for that matter. That's right now. You also have to look at
elementals, and a lot of people don't know what they are or how to
deal with them. But elementals were never born, they never died, but
they were created. Some are accidentally created, some are created by people that
have that ability. But it's very irresponsible to leave them be without giving them
another job, because they get into mischief. And a lot of these old
castles in Europe are guarded by elementals. Nazis um used elementals to protect things.
That's why people that collect um the artifacts from Nazi regime, World War
two stuff, we end up getting into something they didn't realize. Do you
think a lot of those objects are haunted and maybe are guarded by these Yes,
yeah, that's interesting and speaking of hunted objects into into that a little
bit. And I know there's only you know, so much we can talk
about. This isn't released everywhere. It's in America, but you're on a
show called We Possessed. Yes, yes, and it's awesome. We watched
it, yeah, we did. Okay, before we even thought you were
really well, we know her, she's in dominion with us. Yeah.
I was never so surprised when I got the call that they wanted me to
film. Um, they found me. I was shocked and I was thrilled
and honored and I told them the way I do things and they're like,
that's fine, so off I did it. It was so fun. It
was challenging. You can imagine. I know, you can talk a whole
lot about it because of some of the scheduling of the release of it,
and it's out in some places, and I think we can talk about me
the basic structure of the theme of the show though, right, yeah,
yeah, yeah, So you're dealing with haunted objects, right Basically, if
you've watched the Antique Road Show and people bring objects into that to see if
there's any value to it. People suspect that these items are haunted or they
have they have evidence of it, and they don't know what to do with
it. I did have a lot of people bring objects to me that we're
in question, and you know, I don't feel anything. I'm so sorry,
or I like, there's this one bottle. It was so pretty.
It was very simple, but her grandmother had used it and she mixed up
some type of oil and she used essential oils and it she was making her
own perfume. And the love of her grandmother was attached to it. I
mean, I could feel the presence of that love, you know, because
she would put it on her granddaughters and things like that. It was so
beautiful. And she was like, I know it's haunted, and I said,
no, sweetie, it's it's got a memory attached to it, the
feeling of love. It was like the most loving hug, you know.
And so I couldn't tell her, you know, it's it is enchanted.
I guess you'd say, I don't know what word to use. It's marked
by a feeling, but there's no spirit. So it made her happy.
It was quite beautiful, but you know, that there's people that have things
like that, and I saw some really ugly things come through. It looked
like voodoo dolls with nails stuck in its head, stuff like that, and
dead as doornail. I didn't feel anything come in and then knocked me out
of my chair. You know, it's just that you could have a psychological
view of it, and just because it looks scary, it trigut something within
them. Therefore they think it's haunted. But you know, of course it
was tricky. It was super tricky. We love the concepts of animism and
psychism, which kind of state that a consciousness can kind of pervade these inert
materials, you know, to us. So you think that's a great explanation
of a haunted object. If consciousness can, you know, pervade a rock,
and it could be conscious, and that could be that rock would be
haunted for whatever reason or whatever it is. You use lots of examples on
the shower hundred dollars coming, You know that that sort of thing, and
you know our field, But is that something you agree with? You think
that just consciousness can can't exist for a time in any particular object. There's
several types of hauntings. And I know you know this, but I don't
know if our listeners do the residual type of haunting. That residual haunting can
still attach itself to an object, and therefore the trigger is the object.
So therefore, if you touch the object, you can set it off.
It'll it'll trigger it. Like take for instance, I was called to an
auction house and not far from here actually, and they had a grandfather clock
and a lady fell down the steps and cracked her head open on the grandfather
clock when she got to the end of the steps and it killed her.
And it was like three fifteen at night. It was something well am,
I think she was on our way to the restroom. And they took it
to someone to fix it so they could sell it. They were doing an
auction for her property for a family, of all of her belongings, and
it would work run, they'd bring it back to the auction house or to
the house, and it would stop. They take it back out. They
repeated this like three or four times, so they said, this thing's haunted.
And there was a I guess like the death of this lady. It's
like it was part of that was sucked into the clock and it would stop.
It the energy where it stopped suddenly for her, it was sucked into
the clock because when I touched it, I could hear a gasp and I
got a headache. It was just unbelievable. And I managed to get enough
of the energy out of it so that it would run. But it would
have to be it would still have to be. Whatever the maintenance is on
this thing would need to be done regularly. And it was crazy. It
was really crazy. That's hunt in the show. But that's an example of
a residual haunting. I didn't see the lady, the whole business of her
dying hitting her head on that clock. It marked it. It marked that
clock. Well, this is so because I used to clock as an example
when we talk about pan psychism all the time. I never knew why,
because it's just random. I'm not even aware of an aunted clock story,
but I always get the same idea when we were talking about it, and
I started a clock, and like I did with you, right and right,
I don't know, probably ten times on the show. You know,
at o'clock, a picture a clock, and you know, so I don't
know why. Now we're hearing this makes sense now, I'm thinking for the
reason, I do believe that Alice had on a watch when she passed.
I would be on the lookout now that you know. I would be on
the lookout because that could bring back a memory. So if you're looking around
in antique stores or something like that and you're thinking about it, it'll come
to you. You'll know it strange, strange, and I'm sure I don't
good to be on the lookout for. I hope it happens. I believe
it will. Though we got a blow here. Hello, I'll be looking
to that. I'll be looking for her watching and yeah, and maybe has
a white leather band and I don't know, that's just a amature. That's
Poppa to my head, I know. So won everything comes around three sixty
so interesting. Yeah, I love synchronicities. It's it's wonderful. Wow,
you know where you need to be. You know you're where you need to
be. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, So that is really cool. And
you're working with a great group of folks and repossessed as well, and you
guys are definitely an interesting and well rounded team. Poor Marica. She she
wasn't really into ghost hunting. She had had things happen, and she's got
psychic ability. I've been working on her with it because she's She's Mexican and
so family members have, you know, different abilities in her in her family,
and they taught her different things. But this was not her thing.
She was all about the research. And I guess you could tell she's got
the bestes of humor. And we'll be saying something where something's happening and it
could be pretty serious, and then she comes out with something and it just
makes us all crack. You know, she's grey's good to Our friends are
currently watching it as well. Kivin Scott Horn from Horn Paranormal Research. That's
right, thank you so much for watching. Yes, we have paranormal products
that we have in our background, and I'm sure you know these guys are
from Kicking the Haunting at the Mill. Yes, so cool. And you
yourself have a lot of paranormal activity going on within your family and abilities and
the sort of thing too. Uh. Do you want to tell us about
that about your husband and your children? Yes, my husband lived in a
very violently haunted house. It was horrible, absolutely horrible. I don't know
how he made it through it because he was much younger than the way he
was portrayed. If you want to see his show, Um, you can
go to Paranormal Witness on Sci Fi and um, he I think it's uh,
it's called the Coven. Is the name of the show. Trying to
remember, sweetheart, the name of the series. It's Paranormal Witness and it's
called the Coven. And um, it's still in the top seven most popular
in the series. Yes, my love, I'm on the radio show and
we're talking about you, and they asked about you, and I'm talking about
the home you lived in that was so bad and what was the episode and
the season and all that? Sixteen? Yeah, season three, episode sixteen.
I just knew that on the chest. Yeah. He did a great
job. He was only I think he was fourteen or fifteen years old when
he did this, and the house was I don't want to give too much
away, but the house was used as a ceremonial type thing for some very
dark ceremonies, and there are a lot of deaths in that house, a
lot. And you can see some of the articles from the paper. I
believe this in the show, and the house tried to kill him, So
please watch it and learn learn from it. Um nothing particularly evil about um
Wika, but the way that it's generalized in the term for the show,
it could come off a little off putting. So it wasn't a typical Wicka
thing. These ladies were just very dark, very agent upon themselves to Yeah,
shouldn't be really confused with I don't know in the dark sta at all.
Yeah, you know, I wasn't a part of any of the show,
and I would have been able to, I would have said something.
But I think that this was made like ten years ago, so I think
that the knowledge, the general knowledge about the supernatural was a lot more educated
than it was at that point. But everything that happens in the show's real,
and you'll be able to get an idea of what he went through.
So when he went through all of that, it prepared him for living with
me in my house, with my haunted stuff, with my psychic daughter.
He understood me completely. And that's what I referred to Bloody Thursday in my
book, because you'll see why we ended up together. He's so, he's
a very honorable man. Now, let me tell you about my son.
I have a daughter as well, and they both are I've already told you
about my daughter, about how she's been able to see things. My son
came out remembering his past life. Oh wow. I had a Ricky attunement
my master a twoment when I was pregnant with him, because I was at
risk for losing him, and I was using that as a way to spiritually
make myself strong enough to carry him long enough to where he would make it.
And the doctor had told my husband that he could save me or he
could save the baby, but they couldn't save both. And that was the
biggest spiritual warfare I've ever had that was spoken to me. I said as
gently as I could without going mama bear, because you know what I mean
by that, Grison. You know, I was ready the hospital. You
said what to me? You know, I laid my hand on her and
pushed as much positive energy and Ricky as I could into that poor lady.
And I said, thank you so much for telling me all the possibilities that
my son is Elijah Brown. His name is Elijah Daniel, and he's going
to be a mighty spiritual man. I don't want to hear anything else.
If the worst happens, I'll deal with it. But it's not going to
be spoken in this room. And I smiled, I said thank you.
She left and somebody else ended up, you know, coming back in.
And I was in the hospital about a week. Came home. They put
me in bed. He gave you know, gave me fits. He was
he six foot five. Oh my god, he weighs about two hundred pounds.
He's like and sharp, but you know when you have a little toddler.
After all this happened, Oh, he rolled over, like fifteen minutes
after he was born, rolled over. Come on, They said, leading
in the light thing because he's jawned us a little bit. And he had
the cord around his neck twice. Yeah, I was having to lead a
certain way. He was in h what was it, a peril? He
was in some sort of what did they call it. He was stress,
that's it, that's right. So but when he came out, he just
started eating. He never cried, but he was fine. It was obvious
he was fine. He was holding his head up and they're like, whoa,
look at big man holding his head up. They put him in the
in the light bed thing. He bless his heart, and he said,
I don't like this, and he flipped over, and Mia said, he
said, he told me he doesn't like the light in his eyes. He
flipped over. About that time, the doctor said, you can't do that,
you know, you know, she said, I didn't touch him.
They flipped him back over and they watched him. He flipped himself back.
Oh my gosh, light her like, oh my gosh, you know.
So how big was he was born? I'm just carious. It was eight
pounds eight pounds two ounces, not that big. So he's big, Oh
my gosh, said yeah, my kid, I'm an epiphany and a good
question, she said, someone I'm my mom, I'm gonna start having me.
I had to stay at my grandma. My mom must had to stay
in a hospital. Could this be why she has abilities the experience of that.
Yes, that's absolutely at Kim, I'm absolutely sure of it. The
way it was explained to me by a very old shaman, he said that
my soul was intertwined with my sons, and the reason why I went in
peril was because of the separation not only of our bodies but our souls.
And he was so big and so strong that like bigot in spirit and strong
that it took part of me which kind of made me, you know,
sickly. Yes, Kim chills all over here too. I wish you could
see him, but that's exactly it. Wow, this is great. You
will always be always be closed with your family because your souls are intertwined.
You probably feel each other's feelings, finish each other's sentences. That's so beautiful.
I love it when people get apiphany. It's wonderful. Yeah. So
my son was a Russian soldier. He talked about partisan He talked about children
with a star on their chest. They talked. He talked about a lot
of it's like twenty one different things he talked about. He picked out a
plane that my husband, he said, he jumped out of their airplane with
a pillow over his head. Well, he meant a parachute, right y.
Yeah, but see back then they were square, they weren't circular,
right, so it didn't like a pillow. Yes, the thing he remembered
German. He could tell us what Hitler was saying on some of the historic
documentaries. Hitler was, you know, doing something like this, and Elija
is cracking up, and I look at him, I said, son,
that's Hitler. There's nothing funny about him. He said, no, he
thinks he's pretty. He's telling a joke. Ha ha. And my son
was four years old walking out of the kitchen and then here comes the translation,
and my husband and I, my mom and grandma were all looking at
each other, like what just happened? Right? Translation was exactly that.
I was like, what is happening? So after I found a book a
book and it was from Brown University. I didn't that crazy, and it
was written. When I got it, it was written in Russian, so
I couldn't read it. So I had a friend find someone my long story,
we ended up getting translated, and my son sat on a video chat
like this with her. This time he's about eight and he's telling her all
the things that he had told me. His name was Peter. It's not
Peter, but he wanted me to call in Peter, like, what is
what is happening? I've got to figure this out. His name was Colonel
Leonoid Petrowski of the Russian Partisan Movement. Once the Air Force, the Russian
Air Force was crushed under the Nazi regime, they were slipping children out to
save them and I didn't know anything. He talked about being on a boat
I'm like, boat, you're in Russia, what are you talking about.
I didn't know that there was a river, the one all the way around
Russia, and that's what the boat was for. It's a huge river and
that's how they were sleeping children out. I learned about, you know,
World War two in Russia, the beginning of the World War two by my
son's memories. Guys, you gotta watch the show. Its goes inside my
child. Episod had one season one. You can see some of it on
TikTok if you want to, just go to my TikTok channel. I found
it on there, downloaded it and put it on my little profile. But
please, I would love your feedback of what it was like having a child
that can remember a past life. We went to a fireworks display and he
jumped over the top of me. We were sitting on a golf cart and
he said, incoming and dove over the top of me to the crown.
That's wow. It was incredible. It was and somebody asked me, how
do I feel? What do you feel about this? I didn't want him
to lose the memories because he had a life of honor. If he remembered
it, it was for a reason. A lot of people said it was
because of the reiki attunment, because he was attuned as well. But you
know, what do you do? I mean, I don't know. I
don't know if I did the right thing a wrong thing. But you know
he was great on the football team because he would hurt somebody and then he
turned around and do reiki. That is awesome. And did he in track,
like, lose some of those memories as it's kind of common when children
have these past life memories, did they fade or he's constantly looking for people
from his past life and he did find two people. Wow, he's marrying
one of them. Wow. Wow. And did he feel like she was
part of his life back then? Yeah? She was killed during World War
Two. This is their second chance. Oh man, that is something.
Yes, it's so beautiful. I'm about to cry. I'm trying not to.
But when you hear about a live child past lives, children's past lives,
you hear that they lose the memory, like you're saying by the time
they get in there their teens. And you know, Son didn't and that's
amazing. I feel like it's because I didn't want him to I kept telling
him, this is an honorable thing. Don't lose Leonnoy Petrowski. He deserves
to be remembered. He deserves to be loved and honored. And that's part
of you, even if it's just a fraction, right, So I feel
like I honestly feel like that's what's led him to having an honorable life.
The kind of person he is, I really do. Yeah, yeah,
it definitely seems to be part of It's fantastic in martial arts, and he's
always been great. He could feel strip a Russian ak blindfolded at seven years
old. A few seconds. He'd never had the gun in his hand.
We blind funds with him, handed him the gun and he feels stripped it
and function checked it blind. No, when I showed it to him,
you know what he said, Oh, I used to have one of those.
I promise you, I'm not lying. I promise you. No,
we got you. Yeah, the gun was a loaded when you handed it
to year old a gun the first time at four. Wow, if we're
going to have guns in the house, my kids are gonna know. Of
course they're grown now, they're adults, but I want them to know what
they are and how to use them and what they do. They don't need
to pick it up and think it's a play a play toy or something like
that. You know, so he had a red Rider pretty early. Well
that is well, just Terry says here. Yes, um took her back
to some of the haunted object stuff. I know a lot of people don't
know how to unhunt an object. And I wonder what your thoughts were about
that. And do you get things ever? And I mean a side of
uh repossessed, but just people bring you like a haunted I'm just saying,
we really like this thing, but I think it's hanted. Can you remove
the spirit? Right? I tried to give resolution to the people that want
to keep objects, and usually it's it's either helping the spirit that's attached to
it, helped the person understand what's attached to it, because there's certain people
that once they find out, hey, this thing is a little girl,
or like, let's see what was the one thing? Yes, of course,
okay, So I took one of those paranormal bears that's got a K
two right, So I did that, and I took it to a cemetery
in Alabama, and I was with some friends of mine, and they took
me there, and one side of the cemetery is all Civil War like.
We have the Confederates on one side, and then the Union soldiers are all
buried in one and they got one himself. That's how the Southern illustrated him.
I got buried. But they're all just kind of in there together,
but all the you know, the Confederate soldiers have their own and they're all
marked. So they were just showing me the history of it. And I
went to this one grave stone and I kind of just leaned against the fence
and it had a beautiful Gothic white wrought arm fence, and I could hear
a little boy talking and he called himself Andy, and I had that Teddy
bear and I just kind of hung it on the fence because I had a
little point, you know, so I just put the shirt of the bear
on there. And the little boy was talking to us through the K two
meter. Of course, it was yes no at first, but then I
started hearing him so I could say this is what happened, blah blah blah
blah blah, and then he would motion yes or no, so I knew
what was right and what was wrong. As we were going, I just
I love the feet back that way so I could make sure I'm still feeling
I mean, the element of what's going on, you know. And I
was giving him his voice back, and I want you to know that little
boy died from a heart problem. And the teddy Bear had that little circle
like the lights would light up and then it would go around in a circle.
And she said, look, I got my heart beat back. Oh
wow. And he was holding the teddy bear and like I could see it
wiggling and it was delut de loop de loop, and then it would stopping
boop. And I was like, oh my gosh. Now that's the way
things get haunted. And I wanted to take Andy with me. I looked
on this beautiful tombstone. It would look like a chess piece, you know,
a really tall point and you know what I'm talking about. And his
name was Andrew, and so we figured out he died with his heart attack,
you know, and U or whatever it was, and he had his
heartbeat. He followed me all over that that cemetery, but he couldn't leave
because his family was there. So you know, I was going to take
it with me and let him do some investigations, and if anything hurt that
child in spirit, I would flip out. I would go absolutely talk about
Mama Bear would would But he stays, yeah, but I'm going back there
in August, so I'm gonna see him. But that's the right has become
haunted either like a clock again, that would be the heartbeat or the heart
stop. You know, things that we touch every day, like our pipe,
you know, like the grandma that perfume bottles. She made her own
perfume, you know, but it wasn't like a foreign consciousness, but you
could connect to her or part of her consciousness through it. Interesting because I
kind of talks to things like fractured souls or Culdron opposes some ideas we brought
up a higher middle lower self and at the soul. Maybe isn't just the
one unit you think it is it? You know, there might be part
of you that descends back into the earth, goes back to the answer,
some part of it that rejoins a group and a kind of the imperial realms
and blends with the rest of it and absorbs thoughts from around it and memories.
Even only so intelligent, Chris, You're absolutely right on track beautiful.
This necklace was given to me on the show by a client and it was
full of some negative things and it ended up being a beautiful remembrance. And
you know, and I made me a friend and she gave it to me.
So I hope you watch that. I think it was the episode in
Florida. Okay, all right, absolutely, christ we're gonna we're all over
it. And we had who we we had like kind of gotten rid of
the Hulu and we just brought it back this week, so we're going to
finish. Yeah, the first month is free, so you can sign up
for it. And commercials now happens. We got it with the commercials and
yeah, well you know, there was some kind of deal and we had
it with the commercials for a while. But those commercials make all these seasons
like last way too long. So I'm like, I lived it. We
brought it back where we said now commercials this time. It just hit me.
Sorry. Just before I filmed Repossessed, I did an episode of Haunted
Hospitals. Okay, yeah, and I'd never been able to talk about that
story to anyone before. And uh well, see I tell I say that
my mom. You know why didn't you tell me, you know, about
the man in blue? Well, I didn't tell her what happened to me
at the hospital with my grandmother was my dad's mother. Okay, so yeah,
it was pretty crazy, and I did tell her a little bit about
it. But when I had the betrayal, you know, portraying it on
show telling the story, she said, Lee, you didn't tell me it
was all this because it was the first time that, let me think about
it, I had my grandmother in the hospital passing away with terminal cancer and
then I have a super negative paranormal experience on her hallway. Now I've got
to protect her that nothing touches her her soul or or her in general and
messes up what she's got to cross over. And you know, there's much
worse than death now. And I was just just started college, so you
know, it was suddenly quite a change. Of Hospitals are kind of fun
in this sort of thing. They're not trying, obviously, because a lot
of people are passing away. They're like nursing homes and that sort of thing.
Um, why do you think a lot of it is negative? I
think a lot of it's negative because a lot of people have unfinished business,
lots of regret and lots of negative energy about them. And you know,
negative energy is attached our tracks more negative. That's how this whole business of
heaven and hell, that's how it happens. You know, you're judging yourself,
you know, if you're a negative individual where you need to go?
That's right. And have you ever seen the movie Ghost? Yes? Okay,
you know when you see the guy that's so evil, how he's taken
by the shadows and then you see the light and then you know the crossing
over it's so beautiful. Of course we've all seen Ghost Whisper, same thing.
That's how it's all connected. It just makes sense when you see it
portrayed. When you talk about it, it sounds like, oh no,
that's not right, but it is. Now that makes sense. It does,
yes, yeah, yeah, I agree. We agree that. Uh,
negativity or positivity for that matter. You know, it just kind of
echoes out there and it's going to attract like and like always attracts like right,
we know that the science, but it does seem to and I don't
know where it ends. We wonder about that too. Where do people's frustrations
go? We had an interesting conversation about a traffic jam, like and all
these people yelling him like where does where does it stop? Does it end
more at the traffic jam or does it just keep rolling and become something you
know, on its own and merge and become some sort of eagergar of evil?
Yeah? No, no, Well, if you think about Abraham when
he brought his children in and he was giving blessings to each one, speaking
that over his children, m you know, those are intentions and those are
blessings and they do affect people. That was the whole point of it being
spoken and the written in the Bible documented. So how many children out there
are being talked to like their animals, like they're the abuse that goes on?
What kind of negative energy is coming to those poor children? Yeah,
we agree, that's yeah. I mean traumatic in the afterlife basically as well.
And then think about old people, how they're just stuck in a nursing
home and nobody goes to visit them, and somebody goes through all their stuff
and sells it, you know, and sells the house and goes ahead and
helps themself to all their belongings and then they just die alone. I mean,
oh, that's why I, uh, that's why I do what I
do. That's what I'm talking about, healing, including death, because there's
things that need to be tidied up. Absolutely. Yeah. I worked in
a nursing home and I had people. I worked there for a while,
long time years, and I wouldn't leave the patients that were passing away.
I wouldn't leave them alone. I'd stay until they would pass away because they
didn't have any family. Are you a death dula? I don't know what
I am right now. It would very much make sense for you to be
a death doulah. I mean, what a beautiful thing. No, thank
you. They are themselves and you're right with them, and the last thing
they see before they go into the next dimension is you. No, that's
cool. Just watching something on death for already asn't familiar with that that terminology.
Can you explain that a little bit? Yeah, death Duela. I'm
sorry, I'm Kristen. I really think you need to look into it.
Thank you, I will, thank you. I'm sorry. No, No,
I saw death doula as someone that it helps. They're sort of a
counselor slash past or slash spiritualist that helps someone is dying, understand these stages
that they're going through, the emotions that they're going through. Lots of times
they are a Raky master because Raky can't heal them. That's not I mean,
everybody has to die, it's appointed to all of us, right,
but it can be easier passing. And you're also there for the family,
and sometimes you've got certain things that need to be said. Oh, I
didn't mean to do this, I'm sorry, I know it's okay, thank
you. So there's just a death. Duela helps understands death. They're not
afraid of death. Therefore they are able to help someone else go through it,
including the family. Because part of me died with my grandma. It
did, and but that's okay, I'll see her again. Yeah. Yeah,
part of me died when my dad died self. Oh yeah, and
that christ I could still feel his pain. Yeah. So I think business
helps us a lot with what is right. We agree. It's like,
yes, a process of learning to live with it, accepting it. Right.
You can have all those thoughts ahead of time and say, oh,
you know right, I understand it, I believe this and this and this.
When it actually happens, you feel a lot more and if you if
you are already predisposition where you've done that, Christy, I think that would
be beautiful to to look into. And I think that it is covered of
either with hospice or with palpable care. H Yes, to be more because
we're all going to be crying. But it's a gift, but thank you.
Yeah, And it's just part of the the human condition, the human
experience life, these downs, these emotions and were emotional creatures and yes,
it's part of what makes us us, you know. I hope that those
emotions carry on when we're not here in this sort of three dimensional form and
you know, in the flesh and the blood and everything else and that goes
away the meat banks know that we stay. Do you think our soul is
within our body or do you think it goes outside like our aura? Oh,
I think it's outside. I believe in ours, and when I practice
at it, I can see ours pretty well. Really something I have to
work at though like it I am run in a while. I mean I
can try again to do like the thing where you're looking at the mall painting
number those mall paintings, you know, and it's a bunch of confusing mess
on a cholic painting. But if you kind of space out on it,
there's a cow in the background, a boat or something or I know what
those things out at you. Yeah, you start to see the real picture.
And it's kind of like that for me. If I look at somebody
and you know, and I'm practicing this, like doing it on a daily
basis, I start to see it and I get as far as getting into
the colors and and that sort of thing, and sometimes they branch way out,
which is very interesting, Like it's not a perfect shape of that person
at all times. Sometimes it moves and kind of I don't know, it'll
expand and congeal and and all that sort of thing. So I think it's
outside the physical self. But yeah, you know, this is just a
meat bag, like we've mentioned earlier. It's just how we have this experience.
I mean, what its value is. I guess that's a big mystery.
You know, Are we to pass some sort of test? Uh?
You know? Is it for deity? I'm sorry, I don't know.
I don't I don't really know, you know, And I think that's why
we're all here. We're trying figure it out and understand it. I think
we're rebels. I think that we are just like we're not afraid of death.
We're gonna deal with it right now. We're gonna deal with this person's
death or you know, this spirit's you know, or this healing because you
know, when I got my reiky certification, I worked at a reiki hospital.
It was an Indian reiki hospital, and they believe that six spiritual nature
could actually make you sick. It's so if you became sick, they started
treating your spirit first. Oh that's interesting. Yeah, and uh yeah it
was. It was one of the most incredible experience of my life. My
traitor was pretty vlrre and oh god, she's so beautiful. She could cook.
Oh beautiful lady. The way this came about, I had reiki a
tutment and you know, like I was telling you, but I wanted to
learn more. I didn't want to just use it on people to heal.
I wanted to understand the full thing with it. Well, my husband joined
h he decided he wanted to fly and he was stationed at Fort Rucker and
Sue the h that's quite a way as a way, that's in Alabama.
So if he could fly. I could fly too. So there was a
guy at work that is own't played, and I wanted to learn to fly.
My husband had flowed before, he flowed experimental aircraft, so I was
like, damn it, if he could fly, I'm gonna fly. I'm
gonna do fixed wing. I'm not doing helicopters, right. So I started,
you know, talking to Rash and I said, is there any way
you could give me lessons? I'd be glad to pay you. Well,
he invited me over for dinner and my husband as well, and my husband
had just come home for a break and his wife took me over to her
altar and she had all these things and she told me still and I try
to talk to her, and she just closed her eyes. She's just you
know, there was no talking. It was mega, mega awkward, let
me tell you, because I'm like, what is this woman good to do
to me? Because I didn't even know she was a raky master. I
didn't know anything. I didn't know what was happening, you know. And
but I was looking at the altar she had made. I guess you'd call
it an altar, just a little table that she had her sacred objects and
Finally she said, I said that you made me no harm as I'm like,
cauld have told you that. And she had me by the hand and
drug me into the kitchen and she fed me and you know, started teaching
me. She said, you know Raki and I was like, yeah,
I said, rash, How did you know I did raki? He said,
I didn't. She she sensed it and then off we go with training
and it started and hours and hours of rating and she was very intimate about
quality and she would challenge me and challenge me and challenge me. I mean
she had me blowing the energy all the way out to the edges of the
room and I didn't know it, but she was teaching me how to shield.
That's what that was. And I mean that's why if you were watching
the show and you see me force you know, my head up or something
like that, or I say no or stomp my foot, I'd throw an
energy out right, Joshua, it can't be very in tits. It can
be if not just sweet and essentially right. You're you're pushing that energy,
whether it's hopefully it's a healing energy out to that person, putting hands,
laying hands kind of on them or around them energy? And are you dealing
with those aric fields? Is it more aspect from the race keep front of
view or something inside the person. Let's see, when I throw raiki out
to shield, what I'm doing is I'm pulling the energy through my head.
I've already grounded. I call that when I ground just like flushing the toilet.
And I don't know how to describe it. And I take all the
crap and I just throw it into the ground because it's a neutralizer, that's
what it is. That's what it's called Mother Earth. It can take the
negative, at the positive, at the powerful and the weak and all of
that and just kind of absorb it all and then it goes back where it
needs to be. So I just push everything out of me, and now
I'm ready to do whatever I need to do. And I go in and
I know a lot of people say you shouldn't do this, but me,
I'm gonna do it anyway. So I go in with no shield. I
want them to see me. I want them to know that I'm there.
I have all the energy and you know, spiritual energy flowing through me,
and I go in sort of like amoth to a flame. And then I'll
even do a prayer to amplify what's there. I want to know what it
is. We don't have time to play. I want to know what this
is. This person is scared, they're in the waiting room. We're going
to figure this out now. If it's happy, great, let's do it.
If it's bad, you're getting ready to be moved on to something else,
or is it something that I need to help you with. If it
is, let me get the odor in here. If we're going to figure
this out together. But you know, I don't have a lot of time,
so I push really hard. I pull myself back and just have the
energy, and I do the blessing to amplify, and I usually use the
medicine wheel to do that, sort of like a well, like an amplifier,
like a pump of sub kind energy. And then better be careful what
you wish for. Because I used my candles to be able to read.
I use the candle flame, I can read it and figure out what's going
on with the blessings that I'm doing. I used the crystals to be able
to offset I have in a medicine wheel, you have Earthwind's fire water,
and I am if you can't just oh, oh, I'm sorry, okay,
all right. So the way I was taught to do a medicine wheel.
Um oh gosh, I was in uh where was i Ocala, Florida?
I believe he was either that or Silver Springs. And it was right
after we had just gone back to Florida after the Man in Blue thing happened.
And there's a lady that was seminole that would watch me. Um that
when my mom was doing some filled with with my dad. Oh, my
dad wrestled alligators or Tarzan movies, okay, and yeah, so he did
that. He did a lot of stunt work. He was in Don't Give
Up the Ship with Jerry Lewis, a bunch of stuff, bunch of stuff.
And so while he was there filming, the Reptile Institute had the Seminole
tribe attached to it, and a lot of the seminoles worked in the Reptile
Institute. When I say reptiles, it's more like a zoo because there was
there were apes, There were all kinds of monkeys. Of course, with
Tarzan thing, they had them all out and on the island they're still there.
And the glass bottomed boats you know, you can see the through the
water. It's so clear and everything. And so I was there with one
of the seminal ladies and when I talked to her about it, about the
men in blue, and I was just telling her what I've been doing,
she had a funny look on her face. She's turned to one of the
ladies and said, go get Henry. She's been chosen. And then she
went to get Henry and he got I can't remember his name. Oh my
god, old guy. He was incredible with alligators. Anyway, let me
keep telling the story. So he was talking to me about it, and
he said, well, let me explain to you if you need it.
Because he was asking me things that I couldn't describe it. He said,
well, here, let me help you with that. So he said,
I want you to walk around and pick up things that you like. And
I've always kind of looked down at rocks. And I had a shiny rock,
and I had a clear rock, and I had a piece of wood
of some kind. I don't know where it came from, but it looked
really cool. It looked like the letter why and oh yeah, Monkey Island,
this Joshua, you know what I'm talking about five minutes away. Have
you got any pictures of Monkey Island? I'd love to see it now,
Holy crap. They used to come all the way up to the boat.
But we would have to watch your alligators because they'd come up. They could
swim and would come and get little treats out of the boat. Stuff like
that. So cool, So back to it. So he said, okay,
this is what you do, yes, synchronicity, that's right, Kim.
So he said, all right, put your rocks in a circle.
Now you need water. And so he had a kid teen of something on
his side, and we found, you know, bottles were you know.
So we found a bottle cap and he put that and put a little water
in the bottle cap and he said, okay, we need earth wind fire
water. He said, now when it comes to fire, you're little do
you have Because I was a girl's scout too, I have a flashlight.
So he said that works. Creator knows what you're trying to do. So
I took it out of my pocket. Because I always wore like Safari tight
shorts and stuff like that. I wore dingo boots, put off blue jeans.
You know, I was. I was wild. So anyway, I
put the flashlight in there, and he was we were looking for a feather,
and I took my pocket knife off, the knife off, and I
had my hair and I just cut it off and I said, it flies
in the wind. And he was like, girl, your mother's gonna kill
you for doing that. But he's you've got the right idea, and said,
that was my first medicine wheel. And I could feel it. I
could feel it. I could feel it what it did. And he explained
to me how you call let me see, you would call the earth,
and basically it's like making a breaky ball and the earth. You would feel
it, and it's very grounding. It always hits me in the chest and
it makes it you know what it feels like to eat grits, you know,
the grit the greenness of it. You know, it's sort of like,
I can't describe it, the sound of a paper bag rattling, eating
grints, corduroy pants. That all goes through your head. When you're dealing
with earth wind, it's very cool. And so I like to stack it
when I'm teaching where I'll go earth wind, water fire, so that you
could feel the fire at the top of it and I'll layer the energies.
And I had one dog that got in the middle. It was a service
dog. It got in the middle of the of the medicine wheel and which
sleep. And they said, this dog is not like that. This dog
would not come to a stranger. You're a stranger. And the dog just
sprawled out and you know it was just enjoying all that energy. But you
can use that for protection, for healing. You know, I don't don't
feel energy, And I totally get that the calling in quarters or something.
You've got the elements and you're you're dealing with them in a directional You're using
the energies that have been given to all of us. And it is like
I said, the choir of angels of thrones is part of that. There's
other angels that support those that cannot go straight to God. They're angels that
cannot. Can you believe there's angels that cannot go directly to God? But
that's the truth. That's how we are. So we're so privileged that we
could go directly. You know, there's intimentary um and like ancient Greeks thought
about demons, not necessarily women. That is like a good or evil thing.
It could be either one, but they call them demons with an ai
you know, demons right right enus between the humans and any kind of other
back and forth. My mom is Filipino, Filipino and Iroquois and German,
so she's got a heck of a temper. Wow. Yeah, she's a
descendant of the Great Purple Witch of the Philippines. And as I studied things
about that culture, which mom is is not privy too, but the energy
is still there, her ability is still there. Um. She was wondering
where all that came from, and as I started studying it, she was
like, oh, because we had to do genealogy to get to that.
So DNA tests were done, finding family was done, and then when we
had covered this, it was like whoa, So yeah, but I'm pretty
sure about two minutes ago, you know on a show right now, I'm
sure. Well, let's talk. You haven't your back pocket winning it?
When they called did he buy her? Because that happened to me the other
day one Bud another that would be me and Greg. No, because Chris
doesn't have pans on, so he has no pockets. Are you doing?
Like? Do you remember it was Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and they were
in the desert doing the Indiana Jones and he was the dad. Yes it
was. They were there and their underwear it was so funny. Coincidentally posted
when you came. We call them hot pants. So there you go.
Oh, I love you too. Shopping Sundays. There's my guy. I
know who you are? Brandad Yeah, Facebook feed, but hopefully it's going
out to everybody. All right, you're at the Mercy of the Cloud and
whatnot, but I don't. I'm going to tell you I've done some I've
done some spiritual warfare with Brandon Cooper and a lot of people will say,
oh, I'm shaman and they dress a certain way and you don't really know
if they're real, and uh, that man is real. He knows some
of the old ways. And I was so at home when I saw that.
I was like, oh my god, somebody that knows. I was
just like, who anytime? Now we're having a Yeah, Yeah, we
love Brandon. He's been on several times and you still as one more Brandon,
I'm gonna let you forget one episode. Yes, I've got a good
man. Yeah, you see, he takes that whole service thing very seriously.
That's why he does what he does for soldiers as an advocate. He's
trying to help it serves it, it's it's a beautiful thing. I do
a lot of work. Just started a new program. It's sheltered to service
dogs. Yeah, so we're it's Brandon Cooper. Oh you know Brandon,
don't squeeze the shaman. And he's the reason why I have to type in
Bigfoot and the bunny and big caps and and yeah I love that. You
guys ever had a big Foot experience? Not really not so much big foot,
and we're not really about the Bigfoot. It's really goes back to a
story between us and and seeing what we think was I we're doing a clean
start over Bigfoot and the bunny. U quickly it sounds like Bigfoot in the
bunny and that gets tossed around and I'm real fun that was that pickings.
It's no big Foot in the boobies. Yeah, he's smiling. He looks
at me and he goes, I feel a booby and then I had to
go on. I smashed the other one up. Yeah, this is a
big footing the boobies right here in the booby trap. There you go,
big trap. You got through. Yeah, yeah, that's great. We
love this. No, it's great. Yeah. Listen, you gotta be
careful with me because el virus my spirit animals. So I might say anything.
It's true, it's true. I can't help it. I just think
dirty. I just do. Oh you, I am with all of us.
I like you guys, it's not Yes, we like to think about
the show. What did you feel you guys have watched it? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, Well do you like the chemistry between the three of us,
Yes, we did. It's really interesting because everybody's very different. Yes,
you know, and I like Muslim. He's from Lebanon. Okay,
alright, his take on a lot of this. It is very different.
But here's the thing. He's constantly teaching me about Muslim. He's the reason
why I started my PhD in philosophy. I'm getting a PhD in philosophy with
a minor in Parasychology is an emphasis. I like crazy, y'all. I've
been reason psychology is so interesting. You said you were teaching some parasychology now
too. Yeah. I have a book out. It's called Parasychology one O
one, and it was my first class, and the next one is coming
out I'm a little bit late. It's called your psyche Journey, and it's
about finding your own psychic ability. Everybody has psychic ability everybody, it depends
not everybody has the same um. It tends to be like okay, but
we're the only We're the only species on the planet that doesn't follow our instinct.
We think we're too smart fall our instinct for some reason, we don't
closing. We don't follow our instincts at all times, like like a animals,
do you have to think about it? We think about it sometimes that's
gonna be the downfall of it. You got to follow what you feel.
Gut tell you exactly. I tell everybody please follow your gut feeling, follow
your gut. Do you think that's the connection to the subconscious there that got
feeling that intuition? Yes, I think you're right, Chris, Absolutely.
I really feel like that's something I would like to crack open more. What
is our stint? My dad was studying animal languages and I was learning different
calls and that a lot of people call bird calls and stuff like that.
Well, I don't know what's wrong with me, but I decided I was
going to do alligator calls, and so I figured out the different alligator calls.
And I'm a loud mouth, you know. So I'm outside. My
mom told me, if you don't get away from me with those calls,
you're driving me crazy. We're in this in this station wagon on our way
to Florida, and I'm doing these alligator calls all the way. When we
got there, Mom said, get away from me. I'm setting up the
camper. If I hear you make those calls, I'm going to freak out.
And said okay. So I went away and I'm doing the alligator calls
and I did the the young one very well. And it's the distressed one.
Well, I didn't know we were as close to the swab as we
were. Yeah, I got the trouble. Alligator came for me. So
it was bad. Yeah, but my mom's used to it. She was
on her honeymoon with dad and they were trying to get the alligator eggs out
of the nest and alligator read mom up a tree. Oh but why were
they the eggs? Well, they were using it from the Reptile Institute.
They were they were they were comparing the different letters. So It was crazy,
but I didn't know that that call would interest a sasquatch. Pilly,
Oh okay, that's how I had my experience with a with a sasquatch.
I was in a little Nitti camper and this is gonna be my next book,
but oh well, I'm gonna tell you anyway. Um. Yeah,
the little beaver camper. The table and the kitchen let down and the seats
slid together. That was a bed and I was on top of a cabinet
of some kind that It was a bed that folded out and when you rolled
out, the little you know, like the windows were like this, and
then when you open them up, they would open like that, you know,
kind of like in school how you would open them up and it would
crack open and the wind would blow from one one of the windows to the
other. That's how you cool off. And didn't have air conditioning. God
help us. And I had been doing that call all day. I was
waiting on my dad to come home to the camper. Mom was she was
so done with me, poor woman. And I was leaned backwards and I
put my hand on the screen, feeling the wind coming through, and I
just kind of lightly scratched the screen, and a little hand came up and
it had it looked like pink skin, but you could see black, you
know how looking the dogs have the pads that have black and pink on their
like that. And oh my gosh, really bad nails and they were filthy,
and then black hair that stuck out, you know. And it was
scratching my head like this, and we were going back and forth, and
then he started getting a little too aggressive with it, and I backed up,
and then he got mad and Mom saw it. She screamed, snatched
me from the window, got him upset. He's shaking the camper, and
every Mom said, oh my god, stop, and I would hold her
mouth. She would hold mine because every time he would push the camper,
we would scream. So now we're like a squeak toy, you know,
push the thing. It was crazy what we got from it. Maybe I
should stop telling the story. I don't know if I should finish at all,
but I'm gonna leave it hanging though, I see. Finally we ended
up just kind of crawling at her knees to the bathroom. Both of us
got into a little port of little thing and shut the door and we heard
mama show up. And there's a lot of grunting and sounds, but mostly
emotion was in the grunts and cut the smell y'all the smell because we were
I was like, Mom, you smell a skunk, and I was like,
god, we both were smelling skunk. And that's why I was really
getting restless hot whole time. It was this little you know, skunk ape
or something sasmach. I never got to see it, only saw the head
and the mother was trying to get him to come on, and he wouldn't
come on. So finally she slapped the crap out of I mean, he
flung up against the door of the camper and he squealed and she pulled him
and we felt the camper jerk back when they got to the the license plate
thing, and there was also the trailer hitch was in the front right and
so there was a blood of the trailer hitch and his hair was caught on
the the tag and we had b The camper was nowhere near balanced after all
of that, as you can imagine. So yeah, it was pretty crazy.
And then of course we finally got a walkie talkie out there and we
let everybody know what had happened, and all of a sudden, all these
people in white jackets, you know, the white lap coats, people in
this alligator skunk apes squeak toy. Yeah, that's it. That's what it
announced. And they were taking all the samples of the hair and the blood
and all of that. Never heard another word. I was a kid,
so you know, I think I was like maybe eight or nine. Ever
heard another word about its period. We haven't had it yet. I mean,
you want to go and try. But you know, it's funny how
like your perception changes over time. Right then we first got into doing this
stuff, uh, the cryptids and a lot of the Bigfoot stories just seemed
like, oh come on, you know, And now that I've gotten to
talk to enough people that have had actual experiences, we're like, yeah,
okay, it's out there. You know, it's just a matter of us
encountering it like anything else. Because other things we thought, we're kind of
like, wow, that's gotta be bullshit. Well I just happened to us,
So okay, was that right? You know, it just happened Chris.
When I was it's like, so what happened to the campers? Got?
You know, dents all in it and look at that. It was
hair and it looked like mine and they're looking at my hair. I said,
not my hair. I didn't. I'm out of the campers. It
belongs to the thing that was here. And uh yeah, I had proof.
We believe, you know. Oh yeah, it's like a question.
It was like, is this an interimentional thing or like flesh and blood to
you or some kind of mioks between it? That was flesh and blood.
And they were very intelligent because they were having a conversation. I'm so glad
that our listeners are enjoying the stories. I have a similar experience. And
what I said, Kim said, she's she's on it. If you tell
the story. She's buying the book anyway. She doesn't. Character's like,
tell the story anyway. Well, I'll be able to do better than just
running through it, you know, because I'll tell you about the arch orchards
and what they smelled like, and how the people acted, how they were
dressed. I mean, just if you think about Vacation with Chevy Chase and
that a station wagon, you know, that's where we were in the Yeah,
I was like, one, I love that movie. Thinking of the
same summer. My dad was wearing jove On cologne and he got pulled into
the gorilla cage and she wouldn't let him go. She was in love.
Oh my god. They and then of course they were really rough on each
other. Um. They took him out to the uh campground and let me
see him in the cage. They had to finally put something in her food
so that, um, she would go to sleep so he could slip out.
Dad had a lot of hair on his arms and stuff, and so
she's in there picking his hairs. And dad was the school crazy so bad.
It was so bad. Lord, what a summer I can imagine.
Sounds awesome. Absolutely, we've clash wrote that two hour threshold and we don't
want to keep you on your to bill to enjoy the rest of your evening.
Yes, where's the best place to find you? How do people watch
We Possessed when when it's available to them? And where can you find your
books? And you? Okay, all right, so go to Family Spirit
dot net. I've got my first book of the Family Spirit series, first
to five, and I would love for you guys to pick one of those
up. I think there's some out there now. That are used. You
know, you could buy one of those at a discount. I just wanted
my grandmother in her life to you know, live on I wrote this before
she passed and on Word Microsoft Word if you get the newest version, there's
a microphone and you just click it and it'll type it. So I was
actually able to get my grandmother at dinner time to talk about it. She
didn't know I was recording her and it was typing her actual words. So
when she talks about her periences, that's her. Her name was Virginia Scott
and a wonderful lady. And so that's that's what we do there. And
if you're interested, I am going to have online classes for the paranormal.
It's going to be a lot of fun. A lot of people have a
lot of questions and I want you to know what it all means. So
I'll be doing that. But it's Family Spirit dot net is my website.
You can go to Amazon Books, Million Barts and Noble by my book Family
Spirit. Just put my name in it'll come up. Was pretty good for
covering a lot of these bases. But I know people like to, you
know, get their thing. Nail um, do you have time for one
more question. Of course, I've met your disposal. If you want to
go longer, it's fine Media Skyway, who is also going to be on
this show this month. I had a question for you, and she asked,
what was the most profound experience you had with mediumship? Meaning we can't
see what we see our help what happens when we need to help spirits?
Okay? I was called to a location. It was about eight hours away,
and it was it was to do with a child, and the little
girl was seeing a child in the closet and the child looks scary to her,
and so the mother called me. The boyfriend was there, he was
the one that found me, and the little girl was there. And so
when I went into her house, a beautiful little long cabin, gorgeous house,
beautiful family, beautiful family. The wife was the mom. It was
just wow. She was just a beautiful lady, kind of like pioneer woman
if you could picture that, you know, beautiful lady. And so I
went into the bedroom, typical little girl's bedroom, and she would look at
the closet, she'd look at me, and she you know, she was
back and forth, and she said, you don't you can't help me.
You don't know what's going on. She had her head down and said,
baby, I could see her. You're not alone. I see her.
She does exists, she's right here. And I said, baby, the
reason why she looks scary she's been burned on part of her face here.
And her son belted, she's not trying to scare you. And I had
to tell the little girl. I said, you don't have to show us
that that's what you were before. You can look like you did before the
bird on't. Thing you have to do is think about it. And then
she looked like a little girl and she was so happy she would carry that
scar and that I could hear a woman. And there was a lot of
things going on. We had some equipment going too, and it all of
a sudden hit the fan. The whole thing hit the fan, and so
we got the little girl out of there. She went with the grandma and
the mother stayed there with me. The father was outside by the fire pit.
I'm not exactly sure what he I think he was just trying to wrap
his mind around everything. I don't know what his state of mind was.
But my husband was on that helping him and we were taking turns going into
the house. Well, as it turns out, the mother was there with
her. She was a slave. The little girl was a product of a
rape from the guy that the house had been on a plantation, and everything
was going great. Oh, she had the kid. She was happy.
But something happened. I don't know what the trigger was, but I think
she got pregnant again, and it was It was bad because she's not supposed
to be incapacitated. The actual owner of the slave was mad, and so
he killed her as like a form of birth control. He killed her so
that there wouldn't be another child and to protect himself. And then he set
the house on fire or put her in a fire, something to do with
fire. I saw a roof and I saw fire climbing. I don't know
what that means. I don't know if he was trying to cover up the
fact he had strangled her. But somehow the little girl was involved, and
that's where she got the burn from. Remembered it, obviously, she remembered
it, and she replied the mother was not quite dead. She remembered it.
And he was still there. He was still there, and you could
hear him screaming. She was screaming. He was beaten her. You could
hear her hit the floor begging, please don't do that. And when I
stopped her and said, he cannot hurt you. He cannot hurt you.
You don't have bones, you don't have skin. You know, he doesn't
control you. Nobody owns you. Come go with me, Come with me.
Everything is gonna be okay. And a little girl I felt her.
I felt a little girl reached your hand out and h I could feel her
little hand in mine. It was so cold, and so I was just
generating as much energy as I could to the two of them. My son
was with me, and he snatched the guy spiritually out of the house.
I told you he's he's a badass, my son is. He snatched him
out of the house. You could see the heels of something coming up on
the on the wooden floor as he was dragging them out into the gravel.
And you could hear him on the ghost box screaming, stop, help me
stop. Stop him and a little girl and the mother. I said,
girls, you were free, you're free to go. And I could hear
them giggling and screaming, and they just I could feel them just go up,
and he was furious. He didn't want to cross over. I didn't
want to cross him anywhere. It was more like, just get him away
from there, right. So, uh, I was with my son.
We just this is gonna sound crazy, y'all. I can't believe I'm actually
saying this on show, but this is what happened, all right, Um,
my son and I slung him out and then we threw up a shield
over the entire farm, and then we changed the frequency inside the shield so
that he couldn't see it and he couldn't get back in. It's interesting and
when it happened that way, you could hear the codis in the in the
forest and they're all may maybe it was woods, not woods, uh,
wolves, but something was And you can hear it as he was going out
further and further because the owl was going and then the next would hear it,
then the next would hear it. Yeah, so it was it was
very very powerful. And then after all of that happened, Um, the
mother wanted to show me around the property and she took me to a little
house behind the house. Well, I didn't know that I wasn't getting set
up. She wanted me to see if I read anything, and she said,
do you feel anything in here? I said, there was a little
little lady in here and I was looking for her and she said that was
my grandmother's house. We haven't moved anything yet, and I said, well,
she's here, and I was hearing her. She was giddling and she
called her, oh, gosh, I can't remember her little pet name.
And it was like cotton tail or cotton top or something, because she would
wear her hair up on top of her head, you know, and that's
what her grandma called her. And her mouth dropped and she was saying,
you know, thank you for cleaning the house. I didn't feel good before
I passed. I wouldn't want to have company here without cleaning it. And
she said that sounds just like grandma. And then she's just talking, talking
to her grandmother and I'm answering, and I said, she just wanted you
to know she had a really good time. You did her makeup, made
her looked really pretty, and she knows that was really hard for you.
And I thought, what did the world hard for you? And she said,
thank you for being so loving a kind. Well, I'll be darned.
She did her makeup for the funeral after the boy was in palm.
She was doing her my grandma's makeup. I didn't know that. Nobody knew
that in the family. And when I told her that, she almost hit
the floor. I had to help her sit down. And when she told
me, I just had to hold her. I said, well, baby,
she was right beside you the whole time you were doing it. As
she said, thank you for loving me. She said, you're giving me
so much healing right now. Grandma knew I was doing that for her.
I said, of course, she always knows when you love her, and
she's going to be with you and loving you too. And the last thing
she said was, oh God, I can't believe I remember this. She
said, I'll be praying at the feet of Jesus for you. I will
never stop praying. That's so sweet. I don't know if she crawled at
that point. That was the last thing I thought. And uh, you
know, she still calls me and you know, wants reading. She actually
wants me to come back to the house. Uh. They think that the
little girl is back, and I said, well, if she's back,
because she wants to see your daughter. You know, she had a friend.
You know, maybe she wants to say hello. So I am good
to go back. Good. Oh that story touching you got me right,
spirit medicine, that's right. Yeah, it's amazing that somebody that was born
in captivity, born in slavery, raised and killed in slavery. It makes
sense they wouldn't know that they're free in death right concess protesters. Well,
thank you, Kim. I'm glad that you can appreciate all the emotion of
that. That is definitely her name was Ella, so uh it's a very
beautiful name and she'll always be in my heart. Yeah, Grandma was looking
out that's right. Yeah. Well, this is a wonderful place to to
leave it. I love about that story that I was amazing. You need
to come back anytime. Christ your army come back on because there's a lot
of things we could talk about. There's a lot of things. But yeah,
we didn't even touch you. I would love to have we would love
to have further conversation. Yes, please, Well I'm always getting into supthing.
So of course, thank you so much, Yes, thank you so
much. I thank our audience, all your guys. I'm sorry if I
didn't get to all your comments. It's a ton of them tonight, and
I saw your questions. Thanks, thank you for joining us, and thank
you Lee. We really appreciate it. I'm so happy. I don't even
want to have that group like for yeah, really, I huped you so
hard we met. I'm like, oh my god, it's finally. The
energy is so beautiful tonight. Let's just feel like this group hug moment.
So it's right here. Well, thank you, and thank you for also,
you know, accepting your your your gifts. You know, you guys
are very special and you do a beautiful thing. So I hope everybody has
to dance it. Thank you so much, appreciate it, and we appreciate
you and yours. Yes, this has been wonderful. Um, we'll see
everybody next Thursday on Dark HER's Paranormal. Thank you again and Joeyan weekends.
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