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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. Welcome to The Bigfoot and the Bunny.

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This is a couple's journey into the
mysterious, the unknown and the paranormal.

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I'm your host Chris Carr and I'm
your host Christy Johnson. Together we

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are big Foot and the Bunny.
Run on Happy Saturday. Happy Saturday,

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everybody, big Foot and the Bunny
and the Bunny. And thank you Brandy

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Cooper for making me spell that Brandon
had a big Foot and the Booby.

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Yeah, it was another story,
bigger story to that we're not gonna tell

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you about that. Brandy comes back
on Brandon. We love Brandon and also

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in speaking of him, we wanted
to say um, our great friend Lynn

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Monee is now working with Brandon with
Skydoor Entertainment and her show Synchronicity with Lynn

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Monee will be on at the same
time, but it's gonna be through skydro

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so some of the links will be
a little different and we're gonna we'll share

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them because we love everybody involved.
So wishing here the best with Brandon,

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who yes, awesome dude. SOS
Lynn and we're all family, great people.

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Uh. Recently we were at Brandon's
para con in Pickens as a lot

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of you guys know the Haunting at
the Mill at the hy Good Mill,

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and we're all hanging out and we
got to schmis with our guests. That's

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coming on yes today. Uh,
she is awesome. Let me tell you

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a little bit about her. We'll
get right to right to our show.

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Her name is Lee Chiana Brown and
she's a paranormal investigator, a shaman,

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storyteller, and public speaker. Is
a native Southerner who is well acquainted with

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the ghost stories of the South,
and her family worked many of the men

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on many of the cases. Her
writing has appeared on In a Paranorna Underground

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magazine, FEAT Magazine, as well
as others. She's appeared on several T

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shirt TV shows such as My Ghost
Story, Caught in Camera, Ghost Inside

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My Child, which is yeah,
we're going to talk about that. No.

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More recently, she's featured in Repossessed
as Psychomedium on Hulu, and we'll

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talk a little about that as well. Lee is the daughter the late Alan

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Terry of the Ross Alan Serpentarium and
Judy Terry filmed her last television her first

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television commercial, Geez Chris for Romparoom. Remember I can't. When I read

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that, I was like, oh
my god. We used to watch that

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all the time. Oh my god. At the age of four, just

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four years old, she traveled with
a father and many other famous celebrities,

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which included likes of the fabulous Rick
Floyer, Elvis Presley, Crystal Gale,

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the Beegs, My mom loved the
Begs, and many many others. She

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is a board member of the Dominion
Ministry's Outreach Network, which we're fortunate enough

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to be a little part of as
well, and love all the folks involved

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with Dominion. Um we can talk
about that as well, and as speaking

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at our paranormal conventions such as the
aforementioned Haunting at the Mill Paragon in Pickings.

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So without you know, a whole
lot of anto here. Let's let's

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bring a run on and get to
things, because I think we got lots

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to talk about. Be a lot
of fun. Hello, Hello, how

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are you guys? Thank you?
We're doing great. How are you?

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How are you doing good? Doing
good? Thank you for inviting me on

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your show. Oh, thank you
for Joni Us was really appreciate it.

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We had a great time hanging out. Do you in Pickens Picks? That

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was fantastic. It does aw you
go and I said, oh my gosh,

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you're here, and we just ran
to each other like running through the

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field. Oh there you are wonderful. Yeah, it really was. It

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really was. We loved your talk
and um and talking to you so,

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you know, super interesting. It
was a lot of fun. It was

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a great event and everybody involved was
just so cool and it was it was

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a lot of fun. Investigations went
really well. We got a ton of

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data. We were taking out mostly
camped out in a bird iron cabin and

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then people come through and doing sessions
with folks and oh my gosh, but

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what a beautiful location. People are
so nice in the South, you know,

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And that was yeah. Yeah,
even getting something like fast food,

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like everybody is just like so nice, you know. But we did find

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one thing out right, Yes we
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if somebody's being like a little overly
nice, like a you know, somebody

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in retail and they say, bless
you a little heart, a bad thing

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you have the inside school? Oh
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So I'm like all right, we'll
keep an eye out for that or an

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ear out, but no. People
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then it was a wonderful event,
right, dude. Yeah, I belonged

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to the South Carolina Cherokee tribe and
we're having a pal all there made the

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sixth and I'm a clan mother,
so I'm there a lot, and I've

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mostly been there fors ceremonial reasons.
So this was a big surprise for me,

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and it was wonderful. It was
just wonderful to be able to see

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the hey good meal being used for
something like the supernatural. You know,

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that was for me. And it's
not known morning for being a particularly honored

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place, but they're definitely spirits are
no question. Well, you have to

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think Native Americans and indigenous spirits.
They are raised the Old way, which

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meant that they agreed to be with
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give them training and love and spiritual
guidance. So the spirits that are there

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are there because they committed to be
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so magical is you have no idea
how many spirits were around you sending you

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blessings and love you know you were
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think that that's a takeaway time someone
comes there. Do you think these spirits

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that surround people are really there to
give them love and support that everybody maybe

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has a certain family or ancestors,
or maybe unknown spirits that are just the

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people. I totally believe that.
I know that there have been several spirits

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that I've encountered during investigations and haunting, specifically in a residential situation, not

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so much commercial. But they're there
because there's something else there and they're trying

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to tell the family. And once
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is able to meet the spirits that
are there, I can always see a

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healing. And that's why I do
what I do. I believe that healing

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comes in every stage of life,
including death. And if there's something about

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the spirit there and there's a reason, if they find love and fulfillment with

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that family, even then why not
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they don't park at night. I
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in times of death and transition,
that there would be somebody there to reach

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out that you know, maybe the
rest of us couldn't see my grandma recently

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passed in this house, in my
house, and before she passed, she

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has a better, stronger gift than
me. And but you know, she

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was ninety eight when she passed,
so I've got a ways to go,

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and I do feel that she's still
with me. But she told me she

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now she was mostly blind, but
she could still see spirit and she can

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hear them without a doubt. And
she told me she could hear her three

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brothers in the hallway waiting for her. Wow. Wow, see we hear

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that. I think they left after
she joined them. But I know she's

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been here yet. Actually I'm looking
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Yeah, I lost my dad last
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really sick, and you know,
it was evident that that would be occurring.

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It seemed like there were a lot
of spirits around. There were a

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lot of interesting things. We'd have
psychics on our show, for instance,

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and they said, I see your
grandfather behind you, just out of the

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blue. I have no idea about
the situation, and you know, it

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was just like all right. It
was like they were coming in for the

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family and him in particular. You
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had. I know, it's sad
them losing your life, you know,

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their life with you, But now
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able to see their parents and siblings
that they may have lost. It's beautiful,

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it truly is it? Truly is
articles long as we can admit that

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we know we've survived death right,
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think that's why a lot of people
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or any kind of metaphysical interest is
like sort of that proof and know

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that there is something more than the
three D existence we exist through and you

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know, the teniousness. Sometimes I'm
being human, I go, what is

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the meaning of all this? You
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we want to find that out for
ourselves or what happened to people?

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Maybe we love that and lost right, it's not all scary and spooky,

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and you know, I know some
of our background is a little spooky and

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stuff, and we love horror movies
and things of that nature. But we

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also to the side of things where
it's actually not scary at all and kind

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of beautiful. Your your bio has
so many interesting things. We're to begin

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but we ask probable right there really
because we remember um. I love that

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it's a better fact in zoom and
some of those other existing ye Captain Kangaroo

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um. But to say, well, the first paranormal type experience that you

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had, maybe as a child,
did you have any experiences that read an

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early year? I could see spirit
from the time I can remember, and

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my grandmother said that that probably would
happened. I can remember seeing them,

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and then all of a sudden they
stopped. And when I was about six

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years old, it really started.
The floodgate opened and I could see a

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lot of things I had. I
got the chicken cox and then the medicine

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they gave me from the infection because
I broke out horribly. I had my

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lips were swollen up, my eye
was swollen, you know, I had

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everything. Everything was broken out.
I had a worst case. And this

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was before the you know, you
can get the immunization shot now and it

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kind of keeps it at bay.
And I was sick, and then they

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gave me medicine for it that made
me sicker. And when I saw my

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parents come in with all my homework
for school, I was like, Oh

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my god, I'm gonna be I'm
gonna die. I'm gonna die at home,

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right, And they're like, no, you're gonna be out for a

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couple of weeks, but you're going
to pass this. Then my mouth started

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breaking out. I've never heard of
a child having chicken box in their mouth,

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but I did. And my fever
was so high. I remember crying

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until I fell asleep, and I
remember my tears burning the spots on my

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face as they were coming down.
And I fell asleep, and I heard

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a voice telling me I want to
show you who I am. I know

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you're afraid, don't be afraid.
And I thought, oh lord, what

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is this? You know what?
Now what? Because I'm sick and in

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the bed. What's happening? Well, my grandmother told me what may happen

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and about angels and they're real,
and about spirits and they're real, and

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you know how to respond. And
it all depends on how I respond as

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to how things will go. The
first time, you know, excuse me,

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I hit my tablet, so um, I said, this might be

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an angel. I'm gonna do this
right. So I looked over on my

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nightstand and I had a some peanuts
my grandma brought me and some slim gems

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and stuff. And I looked at
the bottle and there's you know, the

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little peanut guy with the top hat. Yeah, I like that. I

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wear a soup and a top hat. And my grandmother watches those British crimes,

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you know, crime shows, you
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I said, and have a British
accent and I and I can hear him

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laughing, and I said, I'm
trying to make sure I'm not going to

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be afraid. Well, um,
I looked up and there he was.

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It looked like almost like a snow
globe at first, and then it got

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fuzzy fuzzy, fuzzy fuzzy, and
then a form started coming out of it,

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and there he was. He see
his I could see the fabrics the

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vest of his suit, and see
his buttons on his shirt. I could

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see he had the monocle, and
I could see the change because he came

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around to the bed and he said, you couldn't see me with your human

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eyes. You wouldn't be able to
stand it. And he looked down.

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He said, do I please you? And I said, yeah, you

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look cool. And he put his
hand on me, and I had all

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kinds of questions. He said just
be quiet. We're not talking about that

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right now. And I saw his
hand go into my chest, into me,

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and I finally slept because I would
get so upset I had that fever

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and I would vomit, you know, because it was just a vicious cycle.

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I would get upset and then being
sick, and it would just make

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me worse. And I actually slept
for you know, a typical nap for

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a kid, you know, six
hours. And then I told my mom

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about it, and she said,
I'll be right back. So she he

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went and got the house phone,
you know, with the great big antenna.

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You're the big honking phones, you
know, and she called Jenny and

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Mama Jenny came straight away. She
was in her pacer. Okay, I'm

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daring to myself, but I'm just
telling you. I want you to picture

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it. And I told my grandma
about it. She said, baby,

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I think you were in the presence
of an angel because you've been praying because

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you're sick, and I've been praying. Your mother's seen angels. I've seen

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angels, and if this is going
to follow to you, you did the

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right thing by trying to be able, you know, whatever you found funny

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or soothing. He accommodated. That
tells you he's good. Tell me what

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he says, you know, And
then she finally kissed me. I got

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more, mister peanuts, you know, a little thing, and then she

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took off. Well, I went
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third It didn't happen the second night, but the third night he came back.

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He did the same thing, And
remember falling asleep laughing, and my

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mom suspected it, and she said
she sat out stood outside my room in

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the hall, and she said that
it sounded like bumblebees in a jar.

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She couldn't understand it. Wow,
it's an interesting Mom used to have heart

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attacks when she was little, and
she had a situation an angel and my

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grandma she had some things happened,
and she had one as well. So

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I don't know if I got theirs, or I had my own, or

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was there one, you know,
for the fact, I know that you

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know we're a we all have one, but I don't know if that one

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was for the family. But after
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could hear him more often and he
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and how i'd been chosen. Well, I ended up going to a pow

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wow and I saw someone that was
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and told him what he said.
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me and he said, sweetheart,
you've been chosen your shaman. And that's

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when the teaching started. I was
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I think this is me. I'm
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show up as as mister Peanut and
I can relate to this. I didn't

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have the kind of positive angelic thing
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were kind of negative and nasty.
No, that's that's okay. But he

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involved clowns, and I've talked about
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clown dolls if you will. There
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to me by my parents would love
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was like with like a shadow people
type thing and unfortunately we're like, it's

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not a negative, but we the
way it can be something positive and the

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thing can change, you know,
how they appear, because like you know,

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when I talk about the clowns sometimes
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you know your clowns. You know
what does that mean? You don't have

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demons or whatever? Aliens? Yeah, but they're creepy. You gotta admit

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alien inductions and that phenomena and spiritual
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from like the people we talk to
and maybe our own experiences, that they

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can present themselves however they want exactly
what you said, what mister peanut do

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I see you a mister peanut?
And yeah, crazy, but it's a

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wickie cool story. Yeah, and
we say wickie cool you see up there

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in the corn? Love it?
I love it. I love that knowing

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on this so we can get away
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with it. Realized that, um, the way I was trained about that,

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if you've had any kind of paranormal
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it's negative, yes, and it
being so young the way you described it

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to me, Chris and krit Kristen, I want to make sure you know

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that they knew you could see them, and they were deliberately trying to stop

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you from wanting to see anything,
so the negative got to you before like

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with mine because I had guidance with
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expected and all those things and all
the prayers around me family deceased members,

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you know where my spirit guide.
So I mean I had a lot going

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on. You guys didn't have that. And this negative thing coming to you

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and you can see it, that
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being how strong you can be.
And look, you still are strong.

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Look what you do. You're in
the dominion. I mean, that's the

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organization for extreme cases. You were
chosen. Thank you were. That might

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have been some of your training.
You don't know if it was. I

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don't know your whole story, but
you stop and think about it. It

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might have been desensitizing you to the
point where you wouldn't be afraid so that

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you would be able to face things
others. Wouldn't you do it for somebody

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else? You don't just do it
because it's in your home. You're doing

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it on purpose to help someone else. And that is what this platform is

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about. You know, we want
people to to not feel weird about their

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experience and understands all over me.
I know, I'm right, you are

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right. That's never been said to
us before, and I actually believe that

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into it, you know, intuitively. Thank you. Great, it's definite.

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I mean I have no doubt and
you don't have to be indigenous to

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have that, right, It's something
that's a spiritual thing. It's just spiritual.

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Yeah, I think that's great.
Um, we found that almost all.

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I'm so happy for. Yeah.
Yeah, most of I guests,

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almost all of them, I've had
some kind of experience when they're kids and

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as adults. Yes, they are
involved in some way shape before and with

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it, and it could be again, you know, alien's going to make

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that correlation because it's well known that
they can change their appearance to the person,

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right. They'll sometimes tell them that
in abduction cases bigfoot, you know,

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bigfoot looking in through the window,
or just whatever it is, if

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it's a ghost and shadow people or
clowns or whatever it is. Like it

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has something that happens when we're kids
that seems to open us up to those

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experiences that they want to talk to
us, and that people seem to want

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to know the answers as an adult, like maybe I don't know if it's

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like in the back of the head, didn't want to know if it's real.

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Did that really happen? Is it
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I don't think it is crazy kids
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very real. I think the kids
do experience what they experience for the most

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part. Granted we have big imaginations, but you know it goes way as

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that, and you want to know
some of those answers later in life.

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Right, Well, that's part of
the reason why we're here. It's the

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journey, absolutely, absolutely and kind
of a good one. It certainly didn't

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stay negative or anything like that.
It was just our childhoods. Things are

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much better now. Yeah, you
mentioned you have this Native American background and

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you mentioned angels. How does that
translate. Were you raised with like different

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upbringings or backgrounds or do Native Americans
talk about angels? They call them angels

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and Cherokee Okay, because I don't
really know, I can't believe that you

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ask me that. I'm actually writing
a little book about it, the stories

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of angels. And they weren't called
angels. They're called little people and their

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beings that look like children, and
they have super long black hair, I

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mean to their knees, you know, maybe longer even, and they have

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They are sort of ommpotent, like
an angel would be. I don't know

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if that's the right word, but
very all knowing. They have abilities.

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They want to teach you things,
but they can also teach you a lesson

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if you're doing the wrong thing,
So you really don't want to make them

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mad. I don't know if you
guys have ever heard of fairy crosses.

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I would love for you to look
them up. Okay, there stone crosses

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that are found in Jerusalem, in
Oklahoma, and in Cherokee. And the

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legend is that see the Cherokee prophesied
they would be a messiah and that he

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would be martyred, and then when
they heard about Christ, their hearts were

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broken. The little people's hearts were
broken, and they cried so hard their

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tears turned to stone. So angels
are their part. Angel I do have

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on my YouTube channel. Now.
Look, I've just been putting stuff out

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there. It's not professional. I
don't have a director, Nobody edits it.

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Whatever I managed to get out there
there, it is so just excuse

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me. But if you'll look at
like I think there's a sampler and you'll

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see me on a railroad track.
I was walking down the railroad track headed

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to a haunted, excuse me,
enchanted cave on the reservation where little people

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were over the years have said to
inhabit. And there were some soldiers that

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not just soldiers, but prisoners that
were building the railroad that were kept in

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those caves, and either the people
that were prison guards sometimes they had soldiers

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to help them to keep the peace. They were at the front of the

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cave, but the little people were
inside the cave with the prisoners, and

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they were teaching them lessons, they
had dreams. There's a lot of things

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that happened with that. So,
um, I'm writing a book and Rex

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Nielsen. Are you familiar with him? Okay, well, he's uh yeah,

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he was there. I call him
t Rex because he's so tall.

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He's doing the illustrations for me.
Oh, that's very exciting. There's a

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story about the thunderbird. Yes,
story about the thunderbird and about the bear

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man and sasquatch in there. So
I hope you guys will enjoy it when

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it comes out. It's gonna be
kind of tiny. But oh and if

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you're interested in my first experience with
the supernatural, you're welcome to. I

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don't want to plug it, but
I would love for you to read it

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so I could get your feedback.
It's called Family Spirit, Five Generations of

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the super Natural. It's on Amazon, Books a million, Barnes and Noble,

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Ballmark dot com is everywhere if you
okay, if you read the first

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one, it's the Man in Blue. And I just found out after my

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book came out, my mom finally
told me that's what she called her angel,

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the Man in blue, and he
wore a suit. She wanted him

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in a suit. How crazy is
that? How could she keep that secret

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all this time? You know,
what is wrong with you? Why aren't

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you telling me stuff? You know
that's my mother all the time you're telling

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me? Now? Yeah, Now, if you read Bloody Thursday, Bloody

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Thursday serious, and you'll see why
I married my husband. And you'll see

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my daughter's first paranormal experience. The
shoe was on the other foot. My

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daughter could see something I couldn't.
Oh wow, I really hope you guys

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will you know, maybe just go
on Kindle or something. But those two,

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all of those stories mean everything.
And I just sent a link out

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to Family Spirit to all our chats. Guys can check that out and from

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there you can see anything else you've
got out there in print, and we

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know you're other like some pretty fine
books over here. I love this the

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origin of four generations of the supernatural. That the is right, and this

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is like super interesting. Love it, love it. Yes, what I

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did was I got my great I
got my great grandmother's and my grandmother's notes

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from their investigations, and then my
team and I with the current technology plus

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my abilities, because I don't never
be what Mama Jenny was. I think

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she tells me I'm better, but
I'm like, nah, nah, you're

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the one. But she told me
that I just needed to grow in confidence.

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But anyway, we went to the
same places that they did, and

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we investigated our way and compared our
notes with theirs, and there's pictures of

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the actual place is. If you
come back to South Carolina, I'll take

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you to them. I'll show you
all these places. If you want to

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just care, I know, did
you ever come back, I'll show you

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if you leave now, if you
leave about eighteen hours tomorrow, we'll be

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doing that. And we would actually
a trick. Yeah, it's a bit

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of a check. When you drive, you should have probably flown or take

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a little time to you know,
get down there and seen trying to do

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it straight, but which doesn't work
out at our age anyways, it should

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have been fourteen hours and turn to
the eighteen because we have fifteen hours and

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the stones and this. How about
if I go to the locations and then

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do this so you could be live
with me and I'm at the location.

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Yeah, I'd love to do that. Yes, we would love that.

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Well, let's put that in the
you know now that the weather's starting to

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turn the noggin and think about it. You know, a month, once

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a week, you could go with
me. I'm teaching paras ecology when I

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won at Piedmont Technical College, so
you can pont Piedmont. Yeahs a name

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that came up in my past life
regression that I did while we were down

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there, and um, apparently I
was somebody named Alice Piedmont and I was

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like, I've been wondering since I
wasn't a word. It was a Piedmont,

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South Carolina. But it's apparently a
pretty big city. And as soon

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as you told me that, when
we left, yeah, Piedmont was everywhere.

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It was like a Piedmont license plate
in front of our door. It

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was, Well, it's actually a
location in South Carolina, not just a

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town. They call it the Piedmont
area of South Carolina. It's um just

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before you get to the South Carolina
North Carolina border. So it's actually a

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location, and so if you look
closer there, you might be able to

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see if you're related to the family
that that was named after. Oh well,

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all I got was the symmetry of
being a young girl, like eight

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years old, in the backseat of
a car, and in the car was

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in an accident. But I got
that my name Alice Piedmont. And yeah,

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sure, I tried to look it
up, you know, briefly,

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I couldn't really find it. Was
just so funny because after that, things

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everywhere, which I guess it was
there the whole time, but you know,

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maybe my subconscious sort I don't know. You know, it's interesting how

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the subconscious works with anything like that, or you know, whatever you're doing,

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a divination, even viewing anything like
that. Yeah, sure, I

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was hypnotized. I have reoccurring dreams, and I was hypnotized and popped out,

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you know, in in state,
you know, speaking French. Luckily

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the hypnotist could understand French and we
figured it all out. It was crazy.

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What was another show? I love? Hello, this is great.

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No, do you see a corlation
between things like the angels or these kind

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of little people if you will,
and like things like puckwagies that you know

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so prevalent and Ireland and also in
indigenous cultures here in America? Are they

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kind of the same thing to you? Are they are? They are?

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And all of those things that you
mentioned are part of the same thing.

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Um, they're more of an interdimensional
being. Okay, okay, and um.

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Also they represent the thrones of angels. The choir of Thrones are a

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type of angels that can Um.
They master the earth, wind, fire,

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water, all the weather. Um. It's incredible what they control.

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And when I use my medicine wheel
or when we look at an indigenous things

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that's actually connecting through nature into an
angel angelic choir, the thrones, they're

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very powerful. They're just a couple
of like a couple of the hierarchies,

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not that far from the archangels.
Wow. Yeah. But the idea is

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that you don't need to it's disrespectful. According to the way I was taught,

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it's disrespectful to ask God for things. When He's given you so much

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already, learn to appreciate what you've
already got, including your spiritual gifts and

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the gifts He's already given you in
the earth. That's why that type of

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energy is utilized and used, because
God's already given us earth, when fire

408
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:52,359
water, we are part of the
earth through part of the sky. And

409
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880
so it's kind of disrespectful. It's
not like, you know, He's going

410
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,119
to make wishes and grant them.
It's better to earn, work hard and

411
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:08,759
appreciate what you've got and understand what's
already been given to you. Sorry,

412
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:19,039
I had to blurt for a proof
of that. Yes, enough of it

413
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,400
on our own. Yes. And
when we say great Spirit, the Great

414
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Spirit is the Father's son, and
the Holy Spirit encompasses the Great Creator.

415
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480
All of that, um, we're
speaking to the earth, wind, fire

416
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,759
water, all the angels, all
the archangels, heavenly Father. All of

417
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,000
that's relative because that's the way it
was set up with the Cherokee. Everything

418
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,440
was in place. We just wanted
a messiah. We said he was coming,

419
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,480
and he did. It sounds like
some different labels, you know,

420
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,359
And that seems to be true of
a lot of cultures, you know,

421
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:59,640
the exactly existing across culturally, U
through you know, world internationally cultures.

422
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Excuse I can't speak here of the
Filipinos and things I mean to perfectly.

423
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,840
I think I look at them as
like non human energies, that something is

424
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,159
different and isn't human, maybe was
never human, but definitely exists. And

425
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,400
maybe there's there's levels above that,
and there's a sort of deity thing,

426
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,800
and there's energies that are just got
a whole mother feeling energy about them and

427
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,079
abilities for that matter. That's right
now. You also have to look at

428
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,280
elementals, and a lot of people
don't know what they are or how to

429
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,639
deal with them. But elementals were
never born, they never died, but

430
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,199
they were created. Some are accidentally
created, some are created by people that

431
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:51,760
have that ability. But it's very
irresponsible to leave them be without giving them

432
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,519
another job, because they get into
mischief. And a lot of these old

433
00:34:54,599 --> 00:35:01,599
castles in Europe are guarded by elementals. Nazis um used elementals to protect things.

434
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,679
That's why people that collect um the
artifacts from Nazi regime, World War

435
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,719
two stuff, we end up getting
into something they didn't realize. Do you

436
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,119
think a lot of those objects are
haunted and maybe are guarded by these Yes,

437
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:27,679
yeah, that's interesting and speaking of
hunted objects into into that a little

438
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,800
bit. And I know there's only
you know, so much we can talk

439
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,079
about. This isn't released everywhere.
It's in America, but you're on a

440
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,840
show called We Possessed. Yes,
yes, and it's awesome. We watched

441
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,880
it, yeah, we did.
Okay, before we even thought you were

442
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,679
really well, we know her,
she's in dominion with us. Yeah.

443
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,199
I was never so surprised when I
got the call that they wanted me to

444
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:59,760
film. Um, they found me. I was shocked and I was thrilled

445
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,599
and honored and I told them the
way I do things and they're like,

446
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:08,639
that's fine, so off I did
it. It was so fun. It

447
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:15,360
was challenging. You can imagine.
I know, you can talk a whole

448
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,760
lot about it because of some of
the scheduling of the release of it,

449
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,960
and it's out in some places,
and I think we can talk about me

450
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:27,159
the basic structure of the theme of
the show though, right, yeah,

451
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,199
yeah, yeah, So you're dealing
with haunted objects, right Basically, if

452
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:36,239
you've watched the Antique Road Show and
people bring objects into that to see if

453
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360
there's any value to it. People
suspect that these items are haunted or they

454
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,000
have they have evidence of it,
and they don't know what to do with

455
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:50,320
it. I did have a lot
of people bring objects to me that we're

456
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,000
in question, and you know,
I don't feel anything. I'm so sorry,

457
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,480
or I like, there's this one
bottle. It was so pretty.

458
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,320
It was very simple, but her
grandmother had used it and she mixed up

459
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:07,360
some type of oil and she used
essential oils and it she was making her

460
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:14,280
own perfume. And the love of
her grandmother was attached to it. I

461
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,440
mean, I could feel the presence
of that love, you know, because

462
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,920
she would put it on her granddaughters
and things like that. It was so

463
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,239
beautiful. And she was like,
I know it's haunted, and I said,

464
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,119
no, sweetie, it's it's got
a memory attached to it, the

465
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:35,239
feeling of love. It was like
the most loving hug, you know.

466
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,480
And so I couldn't tell her,
you know, it's it is enchanted.

467
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,199
I guess you'd say, I don't
know what word to use. It's marked

468
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,400
by a feeling, but there's no
spirit. So it made her happy.

469
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,840
It was quite beautiful, but you
know, that there's people that have things

470
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,119
like that, and I saw some
really ugly things come through. It looked

471
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:58,559
like voodoo dolls with nails stuck in
its head, stuff like that, and

472
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:04,039
dead as doornail. I didn't feel
anything come in and then knocked me out

473
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:08,440
of my chair. You know,
it's just that you could have a psychological

474
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:12,559
view of it, and just because
it looks scary, it trigut something within

475
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,000
them. Therefore they think it's haunted. But you know, of course it

476
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:22,159
was tricky. It was super tricky. We love the concepts of animism and

477
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,000
psychism, which kind of state that
a consciousness can kind of pervade these inert

478
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,440
materials, you know, to us. So you think that's a great explanation

479
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,960
of a haunted object. If consciousness
can, you know, pervade a rock,

480
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,840
and it could be conscious, and
that could be that rock would be

481
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,119
haunted for whatever reason or whatever it
is. You use lots of examples on

482
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,960
the shower hundred dollars coming, You
know that that sort of thing, and

483
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,599
you know our field, But is
that something you agree with? You think

484
00:38:52,639 --> 00:39:00,639
that just consciousness can can't exist for
a time in any particular object. There's

485
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,880
several types of hauntings. And I
know you know this, but I don't

486
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,880
know if our listeners do the residual
type of haunting. That residual haunting can

487
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,760
still attach itself to an object,
and therefore the trigger is the object.

488
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,800
So therefore, if you touch the
object, you can set it off.

489
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,840
It'll it'll trigger it. Like take
for instance, I was called to an

490
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:30,159
auction house and not far from here
actually, and they had a grandfather clock

491
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,239
and a lady fell down the steps
and cracked her head open on the grandfather

492
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,760
clock when she got to the end
of the steps and it killed her.

493
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:45,519
And it was like three fifteen at
night. It was something well am,

494
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:51,000
I think she was on our way
to the restroom. And they took it

495
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,280
to someone to fix it so they
could sell it. They were doing an

496
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,639
auction for her property for a family, of all of her belongings, and

497
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,559
it would work run, they'd bring
it back to the auction house or to

498
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:06,159
the house, and it would stop. They take it back out. They

499
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,599
repeated this like three or four times, so they said, this thing's haunted.

500
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,719
And there was a I guess like
the death of this lady. It's

501
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,400
like it was part of that was
sucked into the clock and it would stop.

502
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,159
It the energy where it stopped suddenly
for her, it was sucked into

503
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,199
the clock because when I touched it, I could hear a gasp and I

504
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,800
got a headache. It was just
unbelievable. And I managed to get enough

505
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,800
of the energy out of it so
that it would run. But it would

506
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,159
have to be it would still have
to be. Whatever the maintenance is on

507
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,960
this thing would need to be done
regularly. And it was crazy. It

508
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,840
was really crazy. That's hunt in
the show. But that's an example of

509
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,880
a residual haunting. I didn't see
the lady, the whole business of her

510
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,840
dying hitting her head on that clock. It marked it. It marked that

511
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,079
clock. Well, this is so
because I used to clock as an example

512
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,039
when we talk about pan psychism all
the time. I never knew why,

513
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,280
because it's just random. I'm not
even aware of an aunted clock story,

514
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,239
but I always get the same idea
when we were talking about it, and

515
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,800
I started a clock, and like
I did with you, right and right,

516
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,639
I don't know, probably ten times
on the show. You know,

517
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,440
at o'clock, a picture a clock, and you know, so I don't

518
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,280
know why. Now we're hearing this
makes sense now, I'm thinking for the

519
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,800
reason, I do believe that Alice
had on a watch when she passed.

520
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:43,519
I would be on the lookout now
that you know. I would be on

521
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,239
the lookout because that could bring back
a memory. So if you're looking around

522
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,599
in antique stores or something like that
and you're thinking about it, it'll come

523
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:59,920
to you. You'll know it strange, strange, and I'm sure I don't

524
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,199
good to be on the lookout for. I hope it happens. I believe

525
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,559
it will. Though we got a
blow here. Hello, I'll be looking

526
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:08,320
to that. I'll be looking for
her watching and yeah, and maybe has

527
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:12,360
a white leather band and I don't
know, that's just a amature. That's

528
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,639
Poppa to my head, I know. So won everything comes around three sixty

529
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,960
so interesting. Yeah, I love
synchronicities. It's it's wonderful. Wow,

530
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:28,280
you know where you need to be. You know you're where you need to

531
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,199
be. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, So that is really cool. And

532
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,920
you're working with a great group of
folks and repossessed as well, and you

533
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:44,000
guys are definitely an interesting and well
rounded team. Poor Marica. She she

534
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:49,039
wasn't really into ghost hunting. She
had had things happen, and she's got

535
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:53,519
psychic ability. I've been working on
her with it because she's She's Mexican and

536
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:59,920
so family members have, you know, different abilities in her in her family,

537
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239
and they taught her different things.
But this was not her thing.

538
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,559
She was all about the research.
And I guess you could tell she's got

539
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:12,440
the bestes of humor. And we'll
be saying something where something's happening and it

540
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,719
could be pretty serious, and then
she comes out with something and it just

541
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,599
makes us all crack. You know, she's grey's good to Our friends are

542
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,159
currently watching it as well. Kivin
Scott Horn from Horn Paranormal Research. That's

543
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,800
right, thank you so much for
watching. Yes, we have paranormal products

544
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,480
that we have in our background,
and I'm sure you know these guys are

545
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,199
from Kicking the Haunting at the Mill. Yes, so cool. And you

546
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:44,199
yourself have a lot of paranormal activity
going on within your family and abilities and

547
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,000
the sort of thing too. Uh. Do you want to tell us about

548
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:52,320
that about your husband and your children? Yes, my husband lived in a

549
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,440
very violently haunted house. It was
horrible, absolutely horrible. I don't know

550
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,840
how he made it through it because
he was much younger than the way he

551
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,159
was portrayed. If you want to
see his show, Um, you can

552
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:12,079
go to Paranormal Witness on Sci Fi
and um, he I think it's uh,

553
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
it's called the Coven. Is the
name of the show. Trying to

554
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:22,079
remember, sweetheart, the name of
the series. It's Paranormal Witness and it's

555
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:28,159
called the Coven. And um,
it's still in the top seven most popular

556
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,039
in the series. Yes, my
love, I'm on the radio show and

557
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,880
we're talking about you, and they
asked about you, and I'm talking about

558
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,679
the home you lived in that was
so bad and what was the episode and

559
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,679
the season and all that? Sixteen? Yeah, season three, episode sixteen.

560
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,159
I just knew that on the chest. Yeah. He did a great

561
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,039
job. He was only I think
he was fourteen or fifteen years old when

562
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:00,239
he did this, and the house
was I don't want to give too much

563
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:07,039
away, but the house was used
as a ceremonial type thing for some very

564
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:13,840
dark ceremonies, and there are a
lot of deaths in that house, a

565
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,079
lot. And you can see some
of the articles from the paper. I

566
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,239
believe this in the show, and
the house tried to kill him, So

567
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:30,519
please watch it and learn learn from
it. Um nothing particularly evil about um

568
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Wika, but the way that it's
generalized in the term for the show,

569
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,719
it could come off a little off
putting. So it wasn't a typical Wicka

570
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,960
thing. These ladies were just very
dark, very agent upon themselves to Yeah,

571
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:53,719
shouldn't be really confused with I don't
know in the dark sta at all.

572
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Yeah, you know, I wasn't
a part of any of the show,

573
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,400
and I would have been able to, I would have said something.

574
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:07,039
But I think that this was made
like ten years ago, so I think

575
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:12,360
that the knowledge, the general knowledge
about the supernatural was a lot more educated

576
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,280
than it was at that point.
But everything that happens in the show's real,

577
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,719
and you'll be able to get an
idea of what he went through.

578
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,960
So when he went through all of
that, it prepared him for living with

579
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:29,639
me in my house, with my
haunted stuff, with my psychic daughter.

580
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,800
He understood me completely. And that's
what I referred to Bloody Thursday in my

581
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:42,039
book, because you'll see why we
ended up together. He's so, he's

582
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,000
a very honorable man. Now,
let me tell you about my son.

583
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,039
I have a daughter as well,
and they both are I've already told you

584
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:52,760
about my daughter, about how she's
been able to see things. My son

585
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:59,679
came out remembering his past life.
Oh wow. I had a Ricky attunement

586
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:04,639
my master a twoment when I was
pregnant with him, because I was at

587
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:08,079
risk for losing him, and I
was using that as a way to spiritually

588
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:13,239
make myself strong enough to carry him
long enough to where he would make it.

589
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,320
And the doctor had told my husband
that he could save me or he

590
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:23,760
could save the baby, but they
couldn't save both. And that was the

591
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,920
biggest spiritual warfare I've ever had that
was spoken to me. I said as

592
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,159
gently as I could without going mama
bear, because you know what I mean

593
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,159
by that, Grison. You know, I was ready the hospital. You

594
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:45,119
said what to me? You know, I laid my hand on her and

595
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,880
pushed as much positive energy and Ricky
as I could into that poor lady.

596
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,199
And I said, thank you so
much for telling me all the possibilities that

597
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,880
my son is Elijah Brown. His
name is Elijah Daniel, and he's going

598
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,039
to be a mighty spiritual man.
I don't want to hear anything else.

599
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,639
If the worst happens, I'll deal
with it. But it's not going to

600
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,840
be spoken in this room. And
I smiled, I said thank you.

601
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,760
She left and somebody else ended up, you know, coming back in.

602
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,920
And I was in the hospital about
a week. Came home. They put

603
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,199
me in bed. He gave you
know, gave me fits. He was

604
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,559
he six foot five. Oh my
god, he weighs about two hundred pounds.

605
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:34,760
He's like and sharp, but you
know when you have a little toddler.

606
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,320
After all this happened, Oh,
he rolled over, like fifteen minutes

607
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,280
after he was born, rolled over. Come on, They said, leading

608
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,519
in the light thing because he's jawned
us a little bit. And he had

609
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,639
the cord around his neck twice.
Yeah, I was having to lead a

610
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:59,480
certain way. He was in h
what was it, a peril? He

611
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,639
was in some sort of what did
they call it. He was stress,

612
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,599
that's it, that's right. So
but when he came out, he just

613
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:12,000
started eating. He never cried,
but he was fine. It was obvious

614
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:14,800
he was fine. He was holding
his head up and they're like, whoa,

615
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,039
look at big man holding his head
up. They put him in the

616
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,639
in the light bed thing. He
bless his heart, and he said,

617
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,880
I don't like this, and he
flipped over, and Mia said, he

618
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,719
said, he told me he doesn't
like the light in his eyes. He

619
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,360
flipped over. About that time,
the doctor said, you can't do that,

620
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,800
you know, you know, she
said, I didn't touch him.

621
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,119
They flipped him back over and they
watched him. He flipped himself back.

622
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:44,079
Oh my gosh, light her like, oh my gosh, you know.

623
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:50,000
So how big was he was born? I'm just carious. It was eight

624
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,159
pounds eight pounds two ounces, not
that big. So he's big, Oh

625
00:49:54,239 --> 00:50:04,719
my gosh, said yeah, my
kid, I'm an epiphany and a good

626
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000
question, she said, someone I'm
my mom, I'm gonna start having me.

627
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,039
I had to stay at my grandma. My mom must had to stay

628
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:16,039
in a hospital. Could this be
why she has abilities the experience of that.

629
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:21,639
Yes, that's absolutely at Kim,
I'm absolutely sure of it. The

630
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,199
way it was explained to me by
a very old shaman, he said that

631
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,679
my soul was intertwined with my sons, and the reason why I went in

632
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,119
peril was because of the separation not
only of our bodies but our souls.

633
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:43,360
And he was so big and so
strong that like bigot in spirit and strong

634
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,599
that it took part of me which
kind of made me, you know,

635
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,639
sickly. Yes, Kim chills all
over here too. I wish you could

636
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:58,079
see him, but that's exactly it. Wow, this is great. You

637
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,800
will always be always be closed with
your family because your souls are intertwined.

638
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:07,960
You probably feel each other's feelings,
finish each other's sentences. That's so beautiful.

639
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:15,320
I love it when people get apiphany. It's wonderful. Yeah. So

640
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:22,039
my son was a Russian soldier.
He talked about partisan He talked about children

641
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:25,960
with a star on their chest.
They talked. He talked about a lot

642
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,280
of it's like twenty one different things
he talked about. He picked out a

643
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:36,199
plane that my husband, he said, he jumped out of their airplane with

644
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,480
a pillow over his head. Well, he meant a parachute, right y.

645
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,960
Yeah, but see back then they
were square, they weren't circular,

646
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:53,320
right, so it didn't like a
pillow. Yes, the thing he remembered

647
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:59,159
German. He could tell us what
Hitler was saying on some of the historic

648
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,360
documentaries. Hitler was, you know, doing something like this, and Elija

649
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,960
is cracking up, and I look
at him, I said, son,

650
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:12,719
that's Hitler. There's nothing funny about
him. He said, no, he

651
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,559
thinks he's pretty. He's telling a
joke. Ha ha. And my son

652
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:21,119
was four years old walking out of
the kitchen and then here comes the translation,

653
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,400
and my husband and I, my
mom and grandma were all looking at

654
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,719
each other, like what just happened? Right? Translation was exactly that.

655
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:37,320
I was like, what is happening? So after I found a book a

656
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:44,159
book and it was from Brown University. I didn't that crazy, and it

657
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,280
was written. When I got it, it was written in Russian, so

658
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:52,960
I couldn't read it. So I
had a friend find someone my long story,

659
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,079
we ended up getting translated, and
my son sat on a video chat

660
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:02,159
like this with her. This time
he's about eight and he's telling her all

661
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,840
the things that he had told me. His name was Peter. It's not

662
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,199
Peter, but he wanted me to
call in Peter, like, what is

663
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,519
what is happening? I've got to
figure this out. His name was Colonel

664
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:22,719
Leonoid Petrowski of the Russian Partisan Movement. Once the Air Force, the Russian

665
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:29,480
Air Force was crushed under the Nazi
regime, they were slipping children out to

666
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:35,440
save them and I didn't know anything. He talked about being on a boat

667
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,800
I'm like, boat, you're in
Russia, what are you talking about.

668
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,400
I didn't know that there was a
river, the one all the way around

669
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:43,920
Russia, and that's what the boat
was for. It's a huge river and

670
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:46,400
that's how they were sleeping children out. I learned about, you know,

671
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:52,440
World War two in Russia, the
beginning of the World War two by my

672
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:58,519
son's memories. Guys, you gotta
watch the show. Its goes inside my

673
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,840
child. Episod had one season one. You can see some of it on

674
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,320
TikTok if you want to, just
go to my TikTok channel. I found

675
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
it on there, downloaded it and
put it on my little profile. But

676
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:15,079
please, I would love your feedback
of what it was like having a child

677
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:21,079
that can remember a past life.
We went to a fireworks display and he

678
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,519
jumped over the top of me.
We were sitting on a golf cart and

679
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:29,440
he said, incoming and dove over
the top of me to the crown.

680
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:37,280
That's wow. It was incredible.
It was and somebody asked me, how

681
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,800
do I feel? What do you
feel about this? I didn't want him

682
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:49,639
to lose the memories because he had
a life of honor. If he remembered

683
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:51,840
it, it was for a reason. A lot of people said it was

684
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,920
because of the reiki attunment, because
he was attuned as well. But you

685
00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:59,480
know, what do you do?
I mean, I don't know. I

686
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,480
don't know if I did the right
thing a wrong thing. But you know

687
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,719
he was great on the football team
because he would hurt somebody and then he

688
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:13,079
turned around and do reiki. That
is awesome. And did he in track,

689
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,239
like, lose some of those memories
as it's kind of common when children

690
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:21,400
have these past life memories, did
they fade or he's constantly looking for people

691
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:28,199
from his past life and he did
find two people. Wow, he's marrying

692
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,920
one of them. Wow. Wow. And did he feel like she was

693
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,760
part of his life back then?
Yeah? She was killed during World War

694
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:43,400
Two. This is their second chance. Oh man, that is something.

695
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,519
Yes, it's so beautiful. I'm
about to cry. I'm trying not to.

696
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:54,000
But when you hear about a live
child past lives, children's past lives,

697
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,119
you hear that they lose the memory, like you're saying by the time

698
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:04,719
they get in there their teens.
And you know, Son didn't and that's

699
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,280
amazing. I feel like it's because
I didn't want him to I kept telling

700
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,920
him, this is an honorable thing. Don't lose Leonnoy Petrowski. He deserves

701
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,559
to be remembered. He deserves to
be loved and honored. And that's part

702
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:23,440
of you, even if it's just
a fraction, right, So I feel

703
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:29,000
like I honestly feel like that's what's
led him to having an honorable life.

704
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:32,079
The kind of person he is,
I really do. Yeah, yeah,

705
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,800
it definitely seems to be part of
It's fantastic in martial arts, and he's

706
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,599
always been great. He could feel
strip a Russian ak blindfolded at seven years

707
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:46,199
old. A few seconds. He'd
never had the gun in his hand.

708
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,079
We blind funds with him, handed
him the gun and he feels stripped it

709
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:58,760
and function checked it blind. No, when I showed it to him,

710
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,239
you know what he said, Oh, I used to have one of those.

711
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,639
I promise you, I'm not lying. I promise you. No,

712
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,760
we got you. Yeah, the
gun was a loaded when you handed it

713
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,840
to year old a gun the first
time at four. Wow, if we're

714
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,400
going to have guns in the house, my kids are gonna know. Of

715
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:23,840
course they're grown now, they're adults, but I want them to know what

716
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,519
they are and how to use them
and what they do. They don't need

717
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:32,119
to pick it up and think it's
a play a play toy or something like

718
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:37,280
that. You know, so he
had a red Rider pretty early. Well

719
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:45,840
that is well, just Terry says
here. Yes, um took her back

720
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,000
to some of the haunted object stuff. I know a lot of people don't

721
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:52,559
know how to unhunt an object.
And I wonder what your thoughts were about

722
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,360
that. And do you get things
ever? And I mean a side of

723
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:00,400
uh repossessed, but just people bring
you like a haunted I'm just saying,

724
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,840
we really like this thing, but
I think it's hanted. Can you remove

725
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,360
the spirit? Right? I tried
to give resolution to the people that want

726
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:13,599
to keep objects, and usually it's
it's either helping the spirit that's attached to

727
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,679
it, helped the person understand what's
attached to it, because there's certain people

728
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,079
that once they find out, hey, this thing is a little girl,

729
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:29,519
or like, let's see what was
the one thing? Yes, of course,

730
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:34,400
okay, So I took one of
those paranormal bears that's got a K

731
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:40,440
two right, So I did that, and I took it to a cemetery

732
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:45,800
in Alabama, and I was with
some friends of mine, and they took

733
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:51,239
me there, and one side of
the cemetery is all Civil War like.

734
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,480
We have the Confederates on one side, and then the Union soldiers are all

735
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:01,800
buried in one and they got one
himself. That's how the Southern illustrated him.

736
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:05,559
I got buried. But they're all
just kind of in there together,

737
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,480
but all the you know, the
Confederate soldiers have their own and they're all

738
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:13,159
marked. So they were just showing
me the history of it. And I

739
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:20,840
went to this one grave stone and
I kind of just leaned against the fence

740
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,519
and it had a beautiful Gothic white
wrought arm fence, and I could hear

741
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:34,360
a little boy talking and he called
himself Andy, and I had that Teddy

742
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,320
bear and I just kind of hung
it on the fence because I had a

743
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,440
little point, you know, so
I just put the shirt of the bear

744
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:44,639
on there. And the little boy
was talking to us through the K two

745
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:46,679
meter. Of course, it was
yes no at first, but then I

746
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,920
started hearing him so I could say
this is what happened, blah blah blah

747
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,039
blah blah, and then he would
motion yes or no, so I knew

748
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:58,760
what was right and what was wrong. As we were going, I just

749
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480
I love the feet back that way
so I could make sure I'm still feeling

750
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:06,840
I mean, the element of what's
going on, you know. And I

751
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,320
was giving him his voice back,
and I want you to know that little

752
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:16,039
boy died from a heart problem.
And the teddy Bear had that little circle

753
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:20,679
like the lights would light up and
then it would go around in a circle.

754
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,400
And she said, look, I
got my heart beat back. Oh

755
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,679
wow. And he was holding the
teddy bear and like I could see it

756
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,000
wiggling and it was delut de loop
de loop, and then it would stopping

757
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:38,280
boop. And I was like,
oh my gosh. Now that's the way

758
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,000
things get haunted. And I wanted
to take Andy with me. I looked

759
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,960
on this beautiful tombstone. It would
look like a chess piece, you know,

760
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:52,760
a really tall point and you know
what I'm talking about. And his

761
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,639
name was Andrew, and so we
figured out he died with his heart attack,

762
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,960
you know, and U or whatever
it was, and he had his

763
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:05,159
heartbeat. He followed me all over
that that cemetery, but he couldn't leave

764
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:07,480
because his family was there. So
you know, I was going to take

765
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:10,519
it with me and let him do
some investigations, and if anything hurt that

766
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:15,280
child in spirit, I would flip
out. I would go absolutely talk about

767
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:22,079
Mama Bear would would But he stays, yeah, but I'm going back there

768
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,719
in August, so I'm gonna see
him. But that's the right has become

769
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:34,440
haunted either like a clock again,
that would be the heartbeat or the heart

770
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:38,400
stop. You know, things that
we touch every day, like our pipe,

771
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,880
you know, like the grandma that
perfume bottles. She made her own

772
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:50,559
perfume, you know, but it
wasn't like a foreign consciousness, but you

773
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:57,400
could connect to her or part of
her consciousness through it. Interesting because I

774
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:02,880
kind of talks to things like fractured
souls or Culdron opposes some ideas we brought

775
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,440
up a higher middle lower self and
at the soul. Maybe isn't just the

776
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:10,280
one unit you think it is it? You know, there might be part

777
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,440
of you that descends back into the
earth, goes back to the answer,

778
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,360
some part of it that rejoins a
group and a kind of the imperial realms

779
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,880
and blends with the rest of it
and absorbs thoughts from around it and memories.

780
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:30,280
Even only so intelligent, Chris,
You're absolutely right on track beautiful.

781
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:37,400
This necklace was given to me on
the show by a client and it was

782
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:47,199
full of some negative things and it
ended up being a beautiful remembrance. And

783
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:51,760
you know, and I made me
a friend and she gave it to me.

784
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,079
So I hope you watch that.
I think it was the episode in

785
01:02:55,199 --> 01:03:00,840
Florida. Okay, all right,
absolutely, christ we're gonna we're all over

786
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:06,199
it. And we had who we
we had like kind of gotten rid of

787
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:08,559
the Hulu and we just brought it
back this week, so we're going to

788
01:03:08,639 --> 01:03:14,480
finish. Yeah, the first month
is free, so you can sign up

789
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:19,880
for it. And commercials now happens. We got it with the commercials and

790
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,320
yeah, well you know, there
was some kind of deal and we had

791
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,719
it with the commercials for a while. But those commercials make all these seasons

792
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,440
like last way too long. So
I'm like, I lived it. We

793
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:35,320
brought it back where we said now
commercials this time. It just hit me.

794
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:43,840
Sorry. Just before I filmed Repossessed, I did an episode of Haunted

795
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,639
Hospitals. Okay, yeah, and
I'd never been able to talk about that

796
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,280
story to anyone before. And uh
well, see I tell I say that

797
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,039
my mom. You know why didn't
you tell me, you know, about

798
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,519
the man in blue? Well,
I didn't tell her what happened to me

799
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:05,559
at the hospital with my grandmother was
my dad's mother. Okay, so yeah,

800
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:10,559
it was pretty crazy, and I
did tell her a little bit about

801
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:15,199
it. But when I had the
betrayal, you know, portraying it on

802
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,679
show telling the story, she said, Lee, you didn't tell me it

803
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,599
was all this because it was the
first time that, let me think about

804
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:28,719
it, I had my grandmother in
the hospital passing away with terminal cancer and

805
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:34,760
then I have a super negative paranormal
experience on her hallway. Now I've got

806
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:41,400
to protect her that nothing touches her
her soul or or her in general and

807
01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:45,880
messes up what she's got to cross
over. And you know, there's much

808
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:51,000
worse than death now. And I
was just just started college, so you

809
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:59,440
know, it was suddenly quite a
change. Of Hospitals are kind of fun

810
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,559
in this sort of thing. They're
not trying, obviously, because a lot

811
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:05,599
of people are passing away. They're
like nursing homes and that sort of thing.

812
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,280
Um, why do you think a
lot of it is negative? I

813
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,480
think a lot of it's negative because
a lot of people have unfinished business,

814
01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:21,119
lots of regret and lots of negative
energy about them. And you know,

815
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:29,719
negative energy is attached our tracks more
negative. That's how this whole business of

816
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,239
heaven and hell, that's how it
happens. You know, you're judging yourself,

817
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,840
you know, if you're a negative
individual where you need to go?

818
01:05:36,719 --> 01:05:43,800
That's right. And have you ever
seen the movie Ghost? Yes? Okay,

819
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,679
you know when you see the guy
that's so evil, how he's taken

820
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,800
by the shadows and then you see
the light and then you know the crossing

821
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,960
over it's so beautiful. Of course
we've all seen Ghost Whisper, same thing.

822
01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:00,360
That's how it's all connected. It
just makes sense when you see it

823
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,079
portrayed. When you talk about it, it sounds like, oh no,

824
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:09,440
that's not right, but it is. Now that makes sense. It does,

825
01:06:09,559 --> 01:06:12,719
yes, yeah, yeah, I
agree. We agree that. Uh,

826
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,119
negativity or positivity for that matter.
You know, it just kind of

827
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:19,800
echoes out there and it's going to
attract like and like always attracts like right,

828
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,719
we know that the science, but
it does seem to and I don't

829
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,239
know where it ends. We wonder
about that too. Where do people's frustrations

830
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,239
go? We had an interesting conversation
about a traffic jam, like and all

831
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,880
these people yelling him like where does
where does it stop? Does it end

832
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,559
more at the traffic jam or does
it just keep rolling and become something you

833
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:44,039
know, on its own and merge
and become some sort of eagergar of evil?

834
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,159
Yeah? No, no, Well, if you think about Abraham when

835
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:51,960
he brought his children in and he
was giving blessings to each one, speaking

836
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:57,519
that over his children, m you
know, those are intentions and those are

837
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,679
blessings and they do affect people.
That was the whole point of it being

838
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,400
spoken and the written in the Bible
documented. So how many children out there

839
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:12,079
are being talked to like their animals, like they're the abuse that goes on?

840
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:17,599
What kind of negative energy is coming
to those poor children? Yeah,

841
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:24,880
we agree, that's yeah. I
mean traumatic in the afterlife basically as well.

842
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:29,039
And then think about old people,
how they're just stuck in a nursing

843
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:31,440
home and nobody goes to visit them, and somebody goes through all their stuff

844
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,960
and sells it, you know,
and sells the house and goes ahead and

845
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:40,239
helps themself to all their belongings and
then they just die alone. I mean,

846
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,320
oh, that's why I, uh, that's why I do what I

847
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,679
do. That's what I'm talking about, healing, including death, because there's

848
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:56,920
things that need to be tidied up. Absolutely. Yeah. I worked in

849
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,920
a nursing home and I had people. I worked there for a while,

850
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,639
long time years, and I wouldn't
leave the patients that were passing away.

851
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:10,639
I wouldn't leave them alone. I'd
stay until they would pass away because they

852
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:15,399
didn't have any family. Are you
a death dula? I don't know what

853
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:21,279
I am right now. It would
very much make sense for you to be

854
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,840
a death doulah. I mean,
what a beautiful thing. No, thank

855
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,760
you. They are themselves and you're
right with them, and the last thing

856
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,920
they see before they go into the
next dimension is you. No, that's

857
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:40,279
cool. Just watching something on death
for already asn't familiar with that that terminology.

858
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:43,319
Can you explain that a little bit? Yeah, death Duela. I'm

859
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,119
sorry, I'm Kristen. I really
think you need to look into it.

860
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,520
Thank you, I will, thank
you. I'm sorry. No, No,

861
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:58,199
I saw death doula as someone that
it helps. They're sort of a

862
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:06,479
counselor slash past or slash spiritualist that
helps someone is dying, understand these stages

863
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,239
that they're going through, the emotions
that they're going through. Lots of times

864
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:17,960
they are a Raky master because Raky
can't heal them. That's not I mean,

865
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:20,439
everybody has to die, it's appointed
to all of us, right,

866
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:26,760
but it can be easier passing.
And you're also there for the family,

867
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,600
and sometimes you've got certain things that
need to be said. Oh, I

868
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,359
didn't mean to do this, I'm
sorry, I know it's okay, thank

869
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:43,680
you. So there's just a death. Duela helps understands death. They're not

870
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,800
afraid of death. Therefore they are
able to help someone else go through it,

871
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,399
including the family. Because part of
me died with my grandma. It

872
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:57,520
did, and but that's okay,
I'll see her again. Yeah. Yeah,

873
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,479
part of me died when my dad
died self. Oh yeah, and

874
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:09,199
that christ I could still feel his
pain. Yeah. So I think business

875
01:10:09,319 --> 01:10:14,079
helps us a lot with what is
right. We agree. It's like,

876
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,880
yes, a process of learning to
live with it, accepting it. Right.

877
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,479
You can have all those thoughts ahead
of time and say, oh,

878
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,279
you know right, I understand it, I believe this and this and this.

879
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:30,039
When it actually happens, you feel
a lot more and if you if

880
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:33,880
you are already predisposition where you've done
that, Christy, I think that would

881
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:40,720
be beautiful to to look into.
And I think that it is covered of

882
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:50,520
either with hospice or with palpable care. H Yes, to be more because

883
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:57,279
we're all going to be crying.
But it's a gift, but thank you.

884
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,439
Yeah, And it's just part of
the the human condition, the human

885
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:10,000
experience life, these downs, these
emotions and were emotional creatures and yes,

886
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,720
it's part of what makes us us, you know. I hope that those

887
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:20,760
emotions carry on when we're not here
in this sort of three dimensional form and

888
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,880
you know, in the flesh and
the blood and everything else and that goes

889
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,840
away the meat banks know that we
stay. Do you think our soul is

890
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:36,520
within our body or do you think
it goes outside like our aura? Oh,

891
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,600
I think it's outside. I believe
in ours, and when I practice

892
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,439
at it, I can see ours
pretty well. Really something I have to

893
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,399
work at though like it I am
run in a while. I mean I

894
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,239
can try again to do like the
thing where you're looking at the mall painting

895
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:54,680
number those mall paintings, you know, and it's a bunch of confusing mess

896
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,159
on a cholic painting. But if
you kind of space out on it,

897
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:02,399
there's a cow in the background,
a boat or something or I know what

898
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:09,199
those things out at you. Yeah, you start to see the real picture.

899
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,159
And it's kind of like that for
me. If I look at somebody

900
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,920
and you know, and I'm practicing
this, like doing it on a daily

901
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,359
basis, I start to see it
and I get as far as getting into

902
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:23,399
the colors and and that sort of
thing, and sometimes they branch way out,

903
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,840
which is very interesting, Like it's
not a perfect shape of that person

904
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,520
at all times. Sometimes it moves
and kind of I don't know, it'll

905
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:33,880
expand and congeal and and all that
sort of thing. So I think it's

906
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:40,560
outside the physical self. But yeah, you know, this is just a

907
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,600
meat bag, like we've mentioned earlier. It's just how we have this experience.

908
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,560
I mean, what its value is. I guess that's a big mystery.

909
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:50,960
You know, Are we to pass
some sort of test? Uh?

910
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:55,279
You know? Is it for deity? I'm sorry, I don't know.

911
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,680
I don't I don't really know,
you know, And I think that's why

912
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,920
we're all here. We're trying figure
it out and understand it. I think

913
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,199
we're rebels. I think that we
are just like we're not afraid of death.

914
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:12,199
We're gonna deal with it right now. We're gonna deal with this person's

915
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:15,760
death or you know, this spirit's
you know, or this healing because you

916
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,680
know, when I got my reiky
certification, I worked at a reiki hospital.

917
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:30,119
It was an Indian reiki hospital,
and they believe that six spiritual nature

918
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,119
could actually make you sick. It's
so if you became sick, they started

919
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:41,319
treating your spirit first. Oh that's
interesting. Yeah, and uh yeah it

920
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,279
was. It was one of the
most incredible experience of my life. My

921
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:51,199
traitor was pretty vlrre and oh god, she's so beautiful. She could cook.

922
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:58,399
Oh beautiful lady. The way this
came about, I had reiki a

923
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,520
tutment and you know, like I
was telling you, but I wanted to

924
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,359
learn more. I didn't want to
just use it on people to heal.

925
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,520
I wanted to understand the full thing
with it. Well, my husband joined

926
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,119
h he decided he wanted to fly
and he was stationed at Fort Rucker and

927
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,039
Sue the h that's quite a way
as a way, that's in Alabama.

928
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,239
So if he could fly. I
could fly too. So there was a

929
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:30,319
guy at work that is own't played, and I wanted to learn to fly.

930
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,640
My husband had flowed before, he
flowed experimental aircraft, so I was

931
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,159
like, damn it, if he
could fly, I'm gonna fly. I'm

932
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:42,640
gonna do fixed wing. I'm not
doing helicopters, right. So I started,

933
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,600
you know, talking to Rash and
I said, is there any way

934
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,840
you could give me lessons? I'd
be glad to pay you. Well,

935
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,840
he invited me over for dinner and
my husband as well, and my husband

936
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,359
had just come home for a break
and his wife took me over to her

937
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,600
altar and she had all these things
and she told me still and I try

938
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,279
to talk to her, and she
just closed her eyes. She's just you

939
01:15:05,359 --> 01:15:11,840
know, there was no talking.
It was mega, mega awkward, let

940
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,319
me tell you, because I'm like, what is this woman good to do

941
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,159
to me? Because I didn't even
know she was a raky master. I

942
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:19,640
didn't know anything. I didn't know
what was happening, you know. And

943
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,359
but I was looking at the altar
she had made. I guess you'd call

944
01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:30,880
it an altar, just a little
table that she had her sacred objects and

945
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:35,840
Finally she said, I said that
you made me no harm as I'm like,

946
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,079
cauld have told you that. And
she had me by the hand and

947
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:44,199
drug me into the kitchen and she
fed me and you know, started teaching

948
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,960
me. She said, you know
Raki and I was like, yeah,

949
01:15:46,079 --> 01:15:49,000
I said, rash, How did
you know I did raki? He said,

950
01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:55,680
I didn't. She she sensed it
and then off we go with training

951
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:03,399
and it started and hours and hours
of rating and she was very intimate about

952
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:10,479
quality and she would challenge me and
challenge me and challenge me. I mean

953
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,119
she had me blowing the energy all
the way out to the edges of the

954
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,800
room and I didn't know it,
but she was teaching me how to shield.

955
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:23,359
That's what that was. And I
mean that's why if you were watching

956
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,560
the show and you see me force
you know, my head up or something

957
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,760
like that, or I say no
or stomp my foot, I'd throw an

958
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:39,760
energy out right, Joshua, it
can't be very in tits. It can

959
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:45,840
be if not just sweet and essentially
right. You're you're pushing that energy,

960
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:50,640
whether it's hopefully it's a healing energy
out to that person, putting hands,

961
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,760
laying hands kind of on them or
around them energy? And are you dealing

962
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,439
with those aric fields? Is it
more aspect from the race keep front of

963
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:06,560
view or something inside the person.
Let's see, when I throw raiki out

964
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:13,760
to shield, what I'm doing is
I'm pulling the energy through my head.

965
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:18,159
I've already grounded. I call that
when I ground just like flushing the toilet.

966
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,359
And I don't know how to describe
it. And I take all the

967
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:26,800
crap and I just throw it into
the ground because it's a neutralizer, that's

968
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,359
what it is. That's what it's
called Mother Earth. It can take the

969
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,279
negative, at the positive, at
the powerful and the weak and all of

970
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:38,680
that and just kind of absorb it
all and then it goes back where it

971
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,520
needs to be. So I just
push everything out of me, and now

972
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,760
I'm ready to do whatever I need
to do. And I go in and

973
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,159
I know a lot of people say
you shouldn't do this, but me,

974
01:17:48,399 --> 01:17:51,640
I'm gonna do it anyway. So
I go in with no shield. I

975
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,319
want them to see me. I
want them to know that I'm there.

976
01:17:55,560 --> 01:18:00,119
I have all the energy and you
know, spiritual energy flowing through me,

977
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,119
and I go in sort of like
amoth to a flame. And then I'll

978
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:11,279
even do a prayer to amplify what's
there. I want to know what it

979
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,960
is. We don't have time to
play. I want to know what this

980
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:16,840
is. This person is scared,
they're in the waiting room. We're going

981
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,000
to figure this out now. If
it's happy, great, let's do it.

982
01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:26,880
If it's bad, you're getting ready
to be moved on to something else,

983
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,920
or is it something that I need
to help you with. If it

984
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:32,319
is, let me get the odor
in here. If we're going to figure

985
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:35,439
this out together. But you know, I don't have a lot of time,

986
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:44,520
so I push really hard. I
pull myself back and just have the

987
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,119
energy, and I do the blessing
to amplify, and I usually use the

988
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:53,840
medicine wheel to do that, sort
of like a well, like an amplifier,

989
01:18:54,199 --> 01:18:59,840
like a pump of sub kind energy. And then better be careful what

990
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:03,239
you wish for. Because I used
my candles to be able to read.

991
01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:11,720
I use the candle flame, I
can read it and figure out what's going

992
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,159
on with the blessings that I'm doing. I used the crystals to be able

993
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:19,039
to offset I have in a medicine
wheel, you have Earthwind's fire water,

994
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:27,319
and I am if you can't just
oh, oh, I'm sorry, okay,

995
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,359
all right. So the way I
was taught to do a medicine wheel.

996
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:39,920
Um oh gosh, I was in
uh where was i Ocala, Florida?

997
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,960
I believe he was either that or
Silver Springs. And it was right

998
01:19:44,039 --> 01:19:49,079
after we had just gone back to
Florida after the Man in Blue thing happened.

999
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:55,640
And there's a lady that was seminole
that would watch me. Um that

1000
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,560
when my mom was doing some filled
with with my dad. Oh, my

1001
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,439
dad wrestled alligators or Tarzan movies,
okay, and yeah, so he did

1002
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:09,119
that. He did a lot of
stunt work. He was in Don't Give

1003
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:12,079
Up the Ship with Jerry Lewis,
a bunch of stuff, bunch of stuff.

1004
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:17,239
And so while he was there filming, the Reptile Institute had the Seminole

1005
01:20:17,319 --> 01:20:23,800
tribe attached to it, and a
lot of the seminoles worked in the Reptile

1006
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,159
Institute. When I say reptiles,
it's more like a zoo because there was

1007
01:20:28,399 --> 01:20:31,560
there were apes, There were all
kinds of monkeys. Of course, with

1008
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,439
Tarzan thing, they had them all
out and on the island they're still there.

1009
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:43,600
And the glass bottomed boats you know, you can see the through the

1010
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,680
water. It's so clear and everything. And so I was there with one

1011
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,560
of the seminal ladies and when I
talked to her about it, about the

1012
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,039
men in blue, and I was
just telling her what I've been doing,

1013
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,880
she had a funny look on her
face. She's turned to one of the

1014
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:04,800
ladies and said, go get Henry. She's been chosen. And then she

1015
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:12,119
went to get Henry and he got
I can't remember his name. Oh my

1016
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:18,840
god, old guy. He was
incredible with alligators. Anyway, let me

1017
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,720
keep telling the story. So he
was talking to me about it, and

1018
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,880
he said, well, let me
explain to you if you need it.

1019
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,960
Because he was asking me things that
I couldn't describe it. He said,

1020
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,920
well, here, let me help
you with that. So he said,

1021
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:39,119
I want you to walk around and
pick up things that you like. And

1022
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:43,359
I've always kind of looked down at
rocks. And I had a shiny rock,

1023
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,239
and I had a clear rock,
and I had a piece of wood

1024
01:21:46,319 --> 01:21:48,479
of some kind. I don't know
where it came from, but it looked

1025
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:54,600
really cool. It looked like the
letter why and oh yeah, Monkey Island,

1026
01:21:55,119 --> 01:22:00,039
this Joshua, you know what I'm
talking about five minutes away. Have

1027
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,600
you got any pictures of Monkey Island? I'd love to see it now,

1028
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,079
Holy crap. They used to come
all the way up to the boat.

1029
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,640
But we would have to watch your
alligators because they'd come up. They could

1030
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,800
swim and would come and get little
treats out of the boat. Stuff like

1031
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:19,239
that. So cool, So back
to it. So he said, okay,

1032
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:24,119
this is what you do, yes, synchronicity, that's right, Kim.

1033
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,399
So he said, all right,
put your rocks in a circle.

1034
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:33,960
Now you need water. And so
he had a kid teen of something on

1035
01:22:34,039 --> 01:22:39,239
his side, and we found,
you know, bottles were you know.

1036
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:42,640
So we found a bottle cap and
he put that and put a little water

1037
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,399
in the bottle cap and he said, okay, we need earth wind fire

1038
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,840
water. He said, now when
it comes to fire, you're little do

1039
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,199
you have Because I was a girl's
scout too, I have a flashlight.

1040
01:22:55,359 --> 01:22:58,880
So he said that works. Creator
knows what you're trying to do. So

1041
01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:01,279
I took it out of my pocket. Because I always wore like Safari tight

1042
01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:05,520
shorts and stuff like that. I
wore dingo boots, put off blue jeans.

1043
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,640
You know, I was. I
was wild. So anyway, I

1044
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:15,319
put the flashlight in there, and
he was we were looking for a feather,

1045
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:16,680
and I took my pocket knife off, the knife off, and I

1046
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,039
had my hair and I just cut
it off and I said, it flies

1047
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:24,119
in the wind. And he was
like, girl, your mother's gonna kill

1048
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:27,880
you for doing that. But he's
you've got the right idea, and said,

1049
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,279
that was my first medicine wheel.
And I could feel it. I

1050
01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:34,840
could feel it. I could feel
it what it did. And he explained

1051
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:40,840
to me how you call let me
see, you would call the earth,

1052
01:23:41,359 --> 01:23:45,119
and basically it's like making a breaky
ball and the earth. You would feel

1053
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:50,039
it, and it's very grounding.
It always hits me in the chest and

1054
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:54,600
it makes it you know what it
feels like to eat grits, you know,

1055
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,920
the grit the greenness of it.
You know, it's sort of like,

1056
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,399
I can't describe it, the sound
of a paper bag rattling, eating

1057
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:09,119
grints, corduroy pants. That all
goes through your head. When you're dealing

1058
01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:15,960
with earth wind, it's very cool. And so I like to stack it

1059
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:24,640
when I'm teaching where I'll go earth
wind, water fire, so that you

1060
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,279
could feel the fire at the top
of it and I'll layer the energies.

1061
01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:33,640
And I had one dog that got
in the middle. It was a service

1062
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:40,000
dog. It got in the middle
of the of the medicine wheel and which

1063
01:24:40,079 --> 01:24:44,000
sleep. And they said, this
dog is not like that. This dog

1064
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:46,840
would not come to a stranger.
You're a stranger. And the dog just

1065
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:53,920
sprawled out and you know it was
just enjoying all that energy. But you

1066
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,680
can use that for protection, for
healing. You know, I don't don't

1067
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,720
feel energy, And I totally get
that the calling in quarters or something.

1068
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:09,279
You've got the elements and you're you're
dealing with them in a directional You're using

1069
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:13,159
the energies that have been given to
all of us. And it is like

1070
01:25:13,319 --> 01:25:16,560
I said, the choir of angels
of thrones is part of that. There's

1071
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,960
other angels that support those that cannot
go straight to God. They're angels that

1072
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:29,079
cannot. Can you believe there's angels
that cannot go directly to God? But

1073
01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:34,119
that's the truth. That's how we
are. So we're so privileged that we

1074
01:25:34,199 --> 01:25:44,479
could go directly. You know,
there's intimentary um and like ancient Greeks thought

1075
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,359
about demons, not necessarily women.
That is like a good or evil thing.

1076
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,760
It could be either one, but
they call them demons with an ai

1077
01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:59,680
you know, demons right right enus
between the humans and any kind of other

1078
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:08,520
back and forth. My mom is
Filipino, Filipino and Iroquois and German,

1079
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:13,279
so she's got a heck of a
temper. Wow. Yeah, she's a

1080
01:26:13,359 --> 01:26:17,720
descendant of the Great Purple Witch of
the Philippines. And as I studied things

1081
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:23,319
about that culture, which mom is
is not privy too, but the energy

1082
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:28,560
is still there, her ability is
still there. Um. She was wondering

1083
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,000
where all that came from, and
as I started studying it, she was

1084
01:26:32,039 --> 01:26:35,399
like, oh, because we had
to do genealogy to get to that.

1085
01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:41,600
So DNA tests were done, finding
family was done, and then when we

1086
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:51,439
had covered this, it was like
whoa, So yeah, but I'm pretty

1087
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:58,720
sure about two minutes ago, you
know on a show right now, I'm

1088
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,560
sure. Well, let's talk.
You haven't your back pocket winning it?

1089
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,079
When they called did he buy her? Because that happened to me the other

1090
01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:12,279
day one Bud another that would be
me and Greg. No, because Chris

1091
01:27:12,359 --> 01:27:17,640
doesn't have pans on, so he
has no pockets. Are you doing?

1092
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:24,560
Like? Do you remember it was
Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and they were

1093
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:29,039
in the desert doing the Indiana Jones
and he was the dad. Yes it

1094
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:36,800
was. They were there and their
underwear it was so funny. Coincidentally posted

1095
01:27:38,039 --> 01:27:40,079
when you came. We call them
hot pants. So there you go.

1096
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,079
Oh, I love you too.
Shopping Sundays. There's my guy. I

1097
01:27:47,239 --> 01:27:56,079
know who you are? Brandad Yeah, Facebook feed, but hopefully it's going

1098
01:27:56,119 --> 01:28:00,920
out to everybody. All right,
you're at the Mercy of the Cloud and

1099
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:05,239
whatnot, but I don't. I'm
going to tell you I've done some I've

1100
01:28:05,319 --> 01:28:10,760
done some spiritual warfare with Brandon Cooper
and a lot of people will say,

1101
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:15,239
oh, I'm shaman and they dress
a certain way and you don't really know

1102
01:28:15,359 --> 01:28:19,199
if they're real, and uh,
that man is real. He knows some

1103
01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:24,279
of the old ways. And I
was so at home when I saw that.

1104
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,199
I was like, oh my god, somebody that knows. I was

1105
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:33,039
just like, who anytime? Now
we're having a Yeah, Yeah, we

1106
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:38,279
love Brandon. He's been on several
times and you still as one more Brandon,

1107
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:45,600
I'm gonna let you forget one episode. Yes, I've got a good

1108
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,600
man. Yeah, you see,
he takes that whole service thing very seriously.

1109
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:57,159
That's why he does what he does
for soldiers as an advocate. He's

1110
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:01,039
trying to help it serves it,
it's it's a beautiful thing. I do

1111
01:29:01,239 --> 01:29:05,640
a lot of work. Just started
a new program. It's sheltered to service

1112
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:15,920
dogs. Yeah, so we're it's
Brandon Cooper. Oh you know Brandon,

1113
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:19,439
don't squeeze the shaman. And he's
the reason why I have to type in

1114
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:27,640
Bigfoot and the bunny and big caps
and and yeah I love that. You

1115
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,560
guys ever had a big Foot experience? Not really not so much big foot,

1116
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,279
and we're not really about the Bigfoot. It's really goes back to a

1117
01:29:35,399 --> 01:29:43,520
story between us and and seeing what
we think was I we're doing a clean

1118
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:48,199
start over Bigfoot and the bunny.
U quickly it sounds like Bigfoot in the

1119
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:59,880
bunny and that gets tossed around and
I'm real fun that was that pickings.

1120
01:30:00,079 --> 01:30:04,840
It's no big Foot in the boobies. Yeah, he's smiling. He looks

1121
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,439
at me and he goes, I
feel a booby and then I had to

1122
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,920
go on. I smashed the other
one up. Yeah, this is a

1123
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:17,399
big footing the boobies right here in
the booby trap. There you go,

1124
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:29,319
big trap. You got through.
Yeah, yeah, that's great. We

1125
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,600
love this. No, it's great. Yeah. Listen, you gotta be

1126
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,760
careful with me because el virus my
spirit animals. So I might say anything.

1127
01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:45,399
It's true, it's true. I
can't help it. I just think

1128
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,760
dirty. I just do. Oh
you, I am with all of us.

1129
01:30:53,239 --> 01:31:00,600
I like you guys, it's not
Yes, we like to think about

1130
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:05,600
the show. What did you feel
you guys have watched it? Yeah,

1131
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:11,279
yeah, yeah, Well do you
like the chemistry between the three of us,

1132
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,199
Yes, we did. It's really
interesting because everybody's very different. Yes,

1133
01:31:15,399 --> 01:31:21,119
you know, and I like Muslim. He's from Lebanon. Okay,

1134
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:26,039
alright, his take on a lot
of this. It is very different.

1135
01:31:26,359 --> 01:31:30,159
But here's the thing. He's constantly
teaching me about Muslim. He's the reason

1136
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:34,800
why I started my PhD in philosophy. I'm getting a PhD in philosophy with

1137
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:41,720
a minor in Parasychology is an emphasis. I like crazy, y'all. I've

1138
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:46,279
been reason psychology is so interesting.
You said you were teaching some parasychology now

1139
01:31:46,359 --> 01:31:50,359
too. Yeah. I have a
book out. It's called Parasychology one O

1140
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:55,600
one, and it was my first
class, and the next one is coming

1141
01:31:55,680 --> 01:32:00,039
out I'm a little bit late.
It's called your psyche Journey, and it's

1142
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:08,640
about finding your own psychic ability.
Everybody has psychic ability everybody, it depends

1143
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:13,760
not everybody has the same um.
It tends to be like okay, but

1144
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,239
we're the only We're the only species
on the planet that doesn't follow our instinct.

1145
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:27,520
We think we're too smart fall our
instinct for some reason, we don't

1146
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,720
closing. We don't follow our instincts
at all times, like like a animals,

1147
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,119
do you have to think about it? We think about it sometimes that's

1148
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:38,159
gonna be the downfall of it.
You got to follow what you feel.

1149
01:32:39,279 --> 01:32:44,079
Gut tell you exactly. I tell
everybody please follow your gut feeling, follow

1150
01:32:44,159 --> 01:32:46,760
your gut. Do you think that's
the connection to the subconscious there that got

1151
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:51,199
feeling that intuition? Yes, I
think you're right, Chris, Absolutely.

1152
01:32:53,359 --> 01:32:58,520
I really feel like that's something I
would like to crack open more. What

1153
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:08,439
is our stint? My dad was
studying animal languages and I was learning different

1154
01:33:09,359 --> 01:33:12,439
calls and that a lot of people
call bird calls and stuff like that.

1155
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:16,760
Well, I don't know what's wrong
with me, but I decided I was

1156
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:23,800
going to do alligator calls, and
so I figured out the different alligator calls.

1157
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,600
And I'm a loud mouth, you
know. So I'm outside. My

1158
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,399
mom told me, if you don't
get away from me with those calls,

1159
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,800
you're driving me crazy. We're in
this in this station wagon on our way

1160
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:38,359
to Florida, and I'm doing these
alligator calls all the way. When we

1161
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,560
got there, Mom said, get
away from me. I'm setting up the

1162
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,359
camper. If I hear you make
those calls, I'm going to freak out.

1163
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,760
And said okay. So I went
away and I'm doing the alligator calls

1164
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:56,720
and I did the the young one
very well. And it's the distressed one.

1165
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,479
Well, I didn't know we were
as close to the swab as we

1166
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:05,039
were. Yeah, I got the
trouble. Alligator came for me. So

1167
01:34:05,319 --> 01:34:12,520
it was bad. Yeah, but
my mom's used to it. She was

1168
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,640
on her honeymoon with dad and they
were trying to get the alligator eggs out

1169
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:24,439
of the nest and alligator read mom
up a tree. Oh but why were

1170
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:29,119
they the eggs? Well, they
were using it from the Reptile Institute.

1171
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:34,680
They were they were they were comparing
the different letters. So It was crazy,

1172
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:43,399
but I didn't know that that call
would interest a sasquatch. Pilly,

1173
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,479
Oh okay, that's how I had
my experience with a with a sasquatch.

1174
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:53,359
I was in a little Nitti camper
and this is gonna be my next book,

1175
01:34:53,399 --> 01:34:56,560
but oh well, I'm gonna tell
you anyway. Um. Yeah,

1176
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:02,000
the little beaver camper. The table
and the kitchen let down and the seats

1177
01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:06,640
slid together. That was a bed
and I was on top of a cabinet

1178
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:11,600
of some kind that It was a
bed that folded out and when you rolled

1179
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,600
out, the little you know,
like the windows were like this, and

1180
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:19,479
then when you open them up,
they would open like that, you know,

1181
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,279
kind of like in school how you
would open them up and it would

1182
01:35:23,319 --> 01:35:27,199
crack open and the wind would blow
from one one of the windows to the

1183
01:35:27,319 --> 01:35:29,960
other. That's how you cool off. And didn't have air conditioning. God

1184
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,800
help us. And I had been
doing that call all day. I was

1185
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:40,680
waiting on my dad to come home
to the camper. Mom was she was

1186
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:45,119
so done with me, poor woman. And I was leaned backwards and I

1187
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:48,880
put my hand on the screen,
feeling the wind coming through, and I

1188
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:55,760
just kind of lightly scratched the screen, and a little hand came up and

1189
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,560
it had it looked like pink skin, but you could see black, you

1190
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,880
know how looking the dogs have the
pads that have black and pink on their

1191
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,800
like that. And oh my gosh, really bad nails and they were filthy,

1192
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,359
and then black hair that stuck out, you know. And it was

1193
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,520
scratching my head like this, and
we were going back and forth, and

1194
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:24,039
then he started getting a little too
aggressive with it, and I backed up,

1195
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:29,399
and then he got mad and Mom
saw it. She screamed, snatched

1196
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,479
me from the window, got him
upset. He's shaking the camper, and

1197
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:38,880
every Mom said, oh my god, stop, and I would hold her

1198
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,399
mouth. She would hold mine because
every time he would push the camper,

1199
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,560
we would scream. So now we're
like a squeak toy, you know,

1200
01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:53,439
push the thing. It was crazy
what we got from it. Maybe I

1201
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,560
should stop telling the story. I
don't know if I should finish at all,

1202
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:01,600
but I'm gonna leave it hanging though, I see. Finally we ended

1203
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,720
up just kind of crawling at her
knees to the bathroom. Both of us

1204
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:10,640
got into a little port of little
thing and shut the door and we heard

1205
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:16,520
mama show up. And there's a
lot of grunting and sounds, but mostly

1206
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:28,000
emotion was in the grunts and cut
the smell y'all the smell because we were

1207
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,640
I was like, Mom, you
smell a skunk, and I was like,

1208
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,279
god, we both were smelling skunk. And that's why I was really

1209
01:37:33,319 --> 01:37:38,199
getting restless hot whole time. It
was this little you know, skunk ape

1210
01:37:38,319 --> 01:37:41,880
or something sasmach. I never got
to see it, only saw the head

1211
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,239
and the mother was trying to get
him to come on, and he wouldn't

1212
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:47,279
come on. So finally she slapped
the crap out of I mean, he

1213
01:37:47,399 --> 01:37:53,880
flung up against the door of the
camper and he squealed and she pulled him

1214
01:37:54,239 --> 01:38:01,760
and we felt the camper jerk back
when they got to the the license plate

1215
01:38:02,359 --> 01:38:09,479
thing, and there was also the
trailer hitch was in the front right and

1216
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,640
so there was a blood of the
trailer hitch and his hair was caught on

1217
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:23,159
the the tag and we had b
The camper was nowhere near balanced after all

1218
01:38:23,239 --> 01:38:27,479
of that, as you can imagine. So yeah, it was pretty crazy.

1219
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:32,039
And then of course we finally got
a walkie talkie out there and we

1220
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:34,880
let everybody know what had happened,
and all of a sudden, all these

1221
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:42,119
people in white jackets, you know, the white lap coats, people in

1222
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:45,560
this alligator skunk apes squeak toy.
Yeah, that's it. That's what it

1223
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:50,680
announced. And they were taking all
the samples of the hair and the blood

1224
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:55,039
and all of that. Never heard
another word. I was a kid,

1225
01:38:55,239 --> 01:39:00,159
so you know, I think I
was like maybe eight or nine. Ever

1226
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:05,720
heard another word about its period.
We haven't had it yet. I mean,

1227
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:11,520
you want to go and try.
But you know, it's funny how

1228
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,319
like your perception changes over time.
Right then we first got into doing this

1229
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:19,239
stuff, uh, the cryptids and
a lot of the Bigfoot stories just seemed

1230
01:39:19,279 --> 01:39:23,319
like, oh come on, you
know, And now that I've gotten to

1231
01:39:23,399 --> 01:39:27,520
talk to enough people that have had
actual experiences, we're like, yeah,

1232
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,079
okay, it's out there. You
know, it's just a matter of us

1233
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:34,199
encountering it like anything else. Because
other things we thought, we're kind of

1234
01:39:34,279 --> 01:39:38,359
like, wow, that's gotta be
bullshit. Well I just happened to us,

1235
01:39:38,399 --> 01:39:43,359
So okay, was that right?
You know, it just happened Chris.

1236
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:48,920
When I was it's like, so
what happened to the campers? Got?

1237
01:39:49,239 --> 01:39:53,760
You know, dents all in it
and look at that. It was

1238
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:58,479
hair and it looked like mine and
they're looking at my hair. I said,

1239
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,880
not my hair. I didn't.
I'm out of the campers. It

1240
01:40:01,039 --> 01:40:06,920
belongs to the thing that was here. And uh yeah, I had proof.

1241
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,920
We believe, you know. Oh
yeah, it's like a question.

1242
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:15,479
It was like, is this an
interimentional thing or like flesh and blood to

1243
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,640
you or some kind of mioks between
it? That was flesh and blood.

1244
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:27,520
And they were very intelligent because they
were having a conversation. I'm so glad

1245
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:35,039
that our listeners are enjoying the stories. I have a similar experience. And

1246
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:41,000
what I said, Kim said,
she's she's on it. If you tell

1247
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:43,319
the story. She's buying the book
anyway. She doesn't. Character's like,

1248
01:40:43,359 --> 01:40:46,800
tell the story anyway. Well,
I'll be able to do better than just

1249
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,479
running through it, you know,
because I'll tell you about the arch orchards

1250
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:55,039
and what they smelled like, and
how the people acted, how they were

1251
01:40:55,159 --> 01:40:59,680
dressed. I mean, just if
you think about Vacation with Chevy Chase and

1252
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,840
that a station wagon, you know, that's where we were in the Yeah,

1253
01:41:04,319 --> 01:41:12,560
I was like, one, I
love that movie. Thinking of the

1254
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:16,359
same summer. My dad was wearing
jove On cologne and he got pulled into

1255
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,319
the gorilla cage and she wouldn't let
him go. She was in love.

1256
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:26,920
Oh my god. They and then
of course they were really rough on each

1257
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,600
other. Um. They took him
out to the uh campground and let me

1258
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:35,039
see him in the cage. They
had to finally put something in her food

1259
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:40,800
so that, um, she would
go to sleep so he could slip out.

1260
01:41:41,239 --> 01:41:43,399
Dad had a lot of hair on
his arms and stuff, and so

1261
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,960
she's in there picking his hairs.
And dad was the school crazy so bad.

1262
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:55,520
It was so bad. Lord,
what a summer I can imagine.

1263
01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:03,039
Sounds awesome. Absolutely, we've clash
wrote that two hour threshold and we don't

1264
01:42:03,039 --> 01:42:05,520
want to keep you on your to
bill to enjoy the rest of your evening.

1265
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,560
Yes, where's the best place to
find you? How do people watch

1266
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,319
We Possessed when when it's available to
them? And where can you find your

1267
01:42:13,319 --> 01:42:18,039
books? And you? Okay,
all right, so go to Family Spirit

1268
01:42:18,199 --> 01:42:23,439
dot net. I've got my first
book of the Family Spirit series, first

1269
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:27,159
to five, and I would love
for you guys to pick one of those

1270
01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:30,359
up. I think there's some out
there now. That are used. You

1271
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,119
know, you could buy one of
those at a discount. I just wanted

1272
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:39,039
my grandmother in her life to you
know, live on I wrote this before

1273
01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:45,760
she passed and on Word Microsoft Word
if you get the newest version, there's

1274
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:49,119
a microphone and you just click it
and it'll type it. So I was

1275
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:54,079
actually able to get my grandmother at
dinner time to talk about it. She

1276
01:42:54,199 --> 01:42:58,439
didn't know I was recording her and
it was typing her actual words. So

1277
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,319
when she talks about her periences,
that's her. Her name was Virginia Scott

1278
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:09,239
and a wonderful lady. And so
that's that's what we do there. And

1279
01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:14,399
if you're interested, I am going
to have online classes for the paranormal.

1280
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,319
It's going to be a lot of
fun. A lot of people have a

1281
01:43:16,359 --> 01:43:19,600
lot of questions and I want you
to know what it all means. So

1282
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:24,359
I'll be doing that. But it's
Family Spirit dot net is my website.

1283
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:30,000
You can go to Amazon Books,
Million Barts and Noble by my book Family

1284
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:35,560
Spirit. Just put my name in
it'll come up. Was pretty good for

1285
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,119
covering a lot of these bases.
But I know people like to, you

1286
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:42,399
know, get their thing. Nail
um, do you have time for one

1287
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:47,159
more question. Of course, I've
met your disposal. If you want to

1288
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:51,399
go longer, it's fine Media Skyway, who is also going to be on

1289
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,880
this show this month. I had
a question for you, and she asked,

1290
01:43:56,159 --> 01:44:00,560
what was the most profound experience you
had with mediumship? Meaning we can't

1291
01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:04,479
see what we see our help what
happens when we need to help spirits?

1292
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:14,520
Okay? I was called to a
location. It was about eight hours away,

1293
01:44:15,319 --> 01:44:19,800
and it was it was to do
with a child, and the little

1294
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:26,119
girl was seeing a child in the
closet and the child looks scary to her,

1295
01:44:27,159 --> 01:44:30,720
and so the mother called me.
The boyfriend was there, he was

1296
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,319
the one that found me, and
the little girl was there. And so

1297
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:39,279
when I went into her house,
a beautiful little long cabin, gorgeous house,

1298
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:44,920
beautiful family, beautiful family. The
wife was the mom. It was

1299
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,279
just wow. She was just a
beautiful lady, kind of like pioneer woman

1300
01:44:48,319 --> 01:44:53,319
if you could picture that, you
know, beautiful lady. And so I

1301
01:44:53,359 --> 01:44:58,680
went into the bedroom, typical little
girl's bedroom, and she would look at

1302
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,880
the closet, she'd look at me, and she you know, she was

1303
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,399
back and forth, and she said, you don't you can't help me.

1304
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,920
You don't know what's going on.
She had her head down and said,

1305
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:11,640
baby, I could see her.
You're not alone. I see her.

1306
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,399
She does exists, she's right here. And I said, baby, the

1307
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,399
reason why she looks scary she's been
burned on part of her face here.

1308
01:45:20,279 --> 01:45:25,800
And her son belted, she's not
trying to scare you. And I had

1309
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,520
to tell the little girl. I
said, you don't have to show us

1310
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,079
that that's what you were before.
You can look like you did before the

1311
01:45:33,279 --> 01:45:38,159
bird on't. Thing you have to
do is think about it. And then

1312
01:45:38,199 --> 01:45:41,479
she looked like a little girl and
she was so happy she would carry that

1313
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:46,319
scar and that I could hear a
woman. And there was a lot of

1314
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:53,840
things going on. We had some
equipment going too, and it all of

1315
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,239
a sudden hit the fan. The
whole thing hit the fan, and so

1316
01:45:56,319 --> 01:45:59,319
we got the little girl out of
there. She went with the grandma and

1317
01:46:00,119 --> 01:46:03,960
the mother stayed there with me.
The father was outside by the fire pit.

1318
01:46:04,079 --> 01:46:08,439
I'm not exactly sure what he I
think he was just trying to wrap

1319
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,439
his mind around everything. I don't
know what his state of mind was.

1320
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,319
But my husband was on that helping
him and we were taking turns going into

1321
01:46:15,319 --> 01:46:17,600
the house. Well, as it
turns out, the mother was there with

1322
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:24,800
her. She was a slave.
The little girl was a product of a

1323
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:31,239
rape from the guy that the house
had been on a plantation, and everything

1324
01:46:31,319 --> 01:46:35,079
was going great. Oh, she
had the kid. She was happy.

1325
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:41,560
But something happened. I don't know
what the trigger was, but I think

1326
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,840
she got pregnant again, and it
was It was bad because she's not supposed

1327
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:50,920
to be incapacitated. The actual owner
of the slave was mad, and so

1328
01:46:51,159 --> 01:46:57,760
he killed her as like a form
of birth control. He killed her so

1329
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,000
that there wouldn't be another child and
to protect himself. And then he set

1330
01:47:02,079 --> 01:47:05,560
the house on fire or put her
in a fire, something to do with

1331
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:10,840
fire. I saw a roof and
I saw fire climbing. I don't know

1332
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,880
what that means. I don't know
if he was trying to cover up the

1333
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,439
fact he had strangled her. But
somehow the little girl was involved, and

1334
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:21,039
that's where she got the burn from. Remembered it, obviously, she remembered

1335
01:47:21,079 --> 01:47:27,079
it, and she replied the mother
was not quite dead. She remembered it.

1336
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,279
And he was still there. He
was still there, and you could

1337
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:35,039
hear him screaming. She was screaming. He was beaten her. You could

1338
01:47:35,079 --> 01:47:41,199
hear her hit the floor begging,
please don't do that. And when I

1339
01:47:41,359 --> 01:47:46,800
stopped her and said, he cannot
hurt you. He cannot hurt you.

1340
01:47:47,039 --> 01:47:51,000
You don't have bones, you don't
have skin. You know, he doesn't

1341
01:47:51,039 --> 01:47:56,600
control you. Nobody owns you.
Come go with me, Come with me.

1342
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,640
Everything is gonna be okay. And
a little girl I felt her.

1343
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,920
I felt a little girl reached your
hand out and h I could feel her

1344
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,319
little hand in mine. It was
so cold, and so I was just

1345
01:48:09,399 --> 01:48:12,760
generating as much energy as I could
to the two of them. My son

1346
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,319
was with me, and he snatched
the guy spiritually out of the house.

1347
01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:21,000
I told you he's he's a badass, my son is. He snatched him

1348
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:26,439
out of the house. You could
see the heels of something coming up on

1349
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:30,760
the on the wooden floor as he
was dragging them out into the gravel.

1350
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:38,079
And you could hear him on the
ghost box screaming, stop, help me

1351
01:48:38,359 --> 01:48:42,119
stop. Stop him and a little
girl and the mother. I said,

1352
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:45,000
girls, you were free, you're
free to go. And I could hear

1353
01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:48,760
them giggling and screaming, and they
just I could feel them just go up,

1354
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:55,119
and he was furious. He didn't
want to cross over. I didn't

1355
01:48:55,159 --> 01:48:58,800
want to cross him anywhere. It
was more like, just get him away

1356
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,159
from there, right. So,
uh, I was with my son.

1357
01:49:01,279 --> 01:49:04,800
We just this is gonna sound crazy, y'all. I can't believe I'm actually

1358
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:10,239
saying this on show, but this
is what happened, all right, Um,

1359
01:49:11,159 --> 01:49:14,520
my son and I slung him out
and then we threw up a shield

1360
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:20,439
over the entire farm, and then
we changed the frequency inside the shield so

1361
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:26,039
that he couldn't see it and he
couldn't get back in. It's interesting and

1362
01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:30,000
when it happened that way, you
could hear the codis in the in the

1363
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,560
forest and they're all may maybe it
was woods, not woods, uh,

1364
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:41,640
wolves, but something was And you
can hear it as he was going out

1365
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:45,880
further and further because the owl was
going and then the next would hear it,

1366
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:49,199
then the next would hear it.
Yeah, so it was it was

1367
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:56,640
very very powerful. And then after
all of that happened, Um, the

1368
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,720
mother wanted to show me around the
property and she took me to a little

1369
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,600
house behind the house. Well,
I didn't know that I wasn't getting set

1370
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,479
up. She wanted me to see
if I read anything, and she said,

1371
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:09,079
do you feel anything in here?
I said, there was a little

1372
01:50:09,079 --> 01:50:12,520
little lady in here and I was
looking for her and she said that was

1373
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,479
my grandmother's house. We haven't moved
anything yet, and I said, well,

1374
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,640
she's here, and I was hearing
her. She was giddling and she

1375
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:26,520
called her, oh, gosh,
I can't remember her little pet name.

1376
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,960
And it was like cotton tail or
cotton top or something, because she would

1377
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,840
wear her hair up on top of
her head, you know, and that's

1378
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:40,159
what her grandma called her. And
her mouth dropped and she was saying,

1379
01:50:40,359 --> 01:50:43,680
you know, thank you for cleaning
the house. I didn't feel good before

1380
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,439
I passed. I wouldn't want to
have company here without cleaning it. And

1381
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,199
she said that sounds just like grandma. And then she's just talking, talking

1382
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,760
to her grandmother and I'm answering,
and I said, she just wanted you

1383
01:50:54,840 --> 01:51:00,199
to know she had a really good
time. You did her makeup, made

1384
01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:02,479
her looked really pretty, and she
knows that was really hard for you.

1385
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:06,720
And I thought, what did the
world hard for you? And she said,

1386
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,640
thank you for being so loving a
kind. Well, I'll be darned.

1387
01:51:13,079 --> 01:51:17,520
She did her makeup for the funeral
after the boy was in palm.

1388
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,520
She was doing her my grandma's makeup. I didn't know that. Nobody knew

1389
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:25,760
that in the family. And when
I told her that, she almost hit

1390
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,039
the floor. I had to help
her sit down. And when she told

1391
01:51:29,079 --> 01:51:30,199
me, I just had to hold
her. I said, well, baby,

1392
01:51:30,279 --> 01:51:33,039
she was right beside you the whole
time you were doing it. As

1393
01:51:33,079 --> 01:51:36,439
she said, thank you for loving
me. She said, you're giving me

1394
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:41,319
so much healing right now. Grandma
knew I was doing that for her.

1395
01:51:41,359 --> 01:51:43,800
I said, of course, she
always knows when you love her, and

1396
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,239
she's going to be with you and
loving you too. And the last thing

1397
01:51:46,319 --> 01:51:49,079
she said was, oh God,
I can't believe I remember this. She

1398
01:51:49,279 --> 01:51:54,039
said, I'll be praying at the
feet of Jesus for you. I will

1399
01:51:54,119 --> 01:51:59,119
never stop praying. That's so sweet. I don't know if she crawled at

1400
01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:01,960
that point. That was the last
thing I thought. And uh, you

1401
01:52:02,039 --> 01:52:05,079
know, she still calls me and
you know, wants reading. She actually

1402
01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:08,760
wants me to come back to the
house. Uh. They think that the

1403
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,199
little girl is back, and I
said, well, if she's back,

1404
01:52:11,319 --> 01:52:14,840
because she wants to see your daughter. You know, she had a friend.

1405
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,560
You know, maybe she wants to
say hello. So I am good

1406
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:30,920
to go back. Good. Oh
that story touching you got me right,

1407
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:39,079
spirit medicine, that's right. Yeah, it's amazing that somebody that was born

1408
01:52:39,199 --> 01:52:44,800
in captivity, born in slavery,
raised and killed in slavery. It makes

1409
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:50,359
sense they wouldn't know that they're free
in death right concess protesters. Well,

1410
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:55,880
thank you, Kim. I'm glad
that you can appreciate all the emotion of

1411
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:01,399
that. That is definitely her name
was Ella, so uh it's a very

1412
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:09,039
beautiful name and she'll always be in
my heart. Yeah, Grandma was looking

1413
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:13,760
out that's right. Yeah. Well, this is a wonderful place to to

1414
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,720
leave it. I love about that
story that I was amazing. You need

1415
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:24,199
to come back anytime. Christ your
army come back on because there's a lot

1416
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of things we could talk about.
There's a lot of things. But yeah,

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we didn't even touch you. I
would love to have we would love

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to have further conversation. Yes,
please, Well I'm always getting into supthing.

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So of course, thank you so
much, Yes, thank you so

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much. I thank our audience,
all your guys. I'm sorry if I

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didn't get to all your comments.
It's a ton of them tonight, and

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I saw your questions. Thanks,
thank you for joining us, and thank

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01:53:50,399 --> 01:53:58,479
you Lee. We really appreciate it. I'm so happy. I don't even

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01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,680
want to have that group like for
yeah, really, I huped you so

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01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:06,239
hard we met. I'm like,
oh my god, it's finally. The

1426
01:54:06,399 --> 01:54:13,239
energy is so beautiful tonight. Let's
just feel like this group hug moment.

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01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,880
So it's right here. Well,
thank you, and thank you for also,

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you know, accepting your your your
gifts. You know, you guys

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01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,840
are very special and you do a
beautiful thing. So I hope everybody has

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01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,800
to dance it. Thank you so
much, appreciate it, and we appreciate

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01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,319
you and yours. Yes, this
has been wonderful. Um, we'll see

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everybody next Thursday on Dark HER's Paranormal. Thank you again and Joeyan weekends.

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Stay safe, guys, Bye guys, Bye,
