Pump pump pump it up. Go It's pumpy season. Whoo. How excited
are you? I am not that excited, but I'm excited for you.
You don't like pumpkin flavored things. I like pumpkin flavored beers when they put
the cinnamon sugar on the rent. Oh, so you just like cinnamon sugar.
I like to just all over cinnamon sugar. I like pumpkin flavored coffee.
I like pumpkin flavored doughnuts. I like pumpkin flavored muffins. I like
pumpkin flavored everything. Give me all of the pumpkin flavor year round. I
don't understand because it's not actual pumpkin. I don't know why we can't manufacture
year round. It's kind of fucking bullshit. Now, I believe that what
within a week or two, you'll be wearing your han solo outfit, no
doubt. Yeah. I'll have a vest a longsleeve on underneath some leggings and
some some high boots with some fur on them. Yeah. John King of
Queen Middle Street entertain Goo and Dom Mac and we are the Mac and Goop
program. We bring you friendship. Yeah, and today we're gonna bring you
a little bit of heart and family ship. Is that a thing? Family
Ship? It's definitely one of the best ships out there. Yeah. If
we're talking ships, family Ship's gotta be up there. Today we're discussing Davies
Ryan davis most anticipated movie of the year, Blue Beetle Goo. Blue Beetle
is a movie. When it was announced, I don't know, two years
ago, I would have bet probably like a hundred bucks this was never coming
up. I would have bet I believe at the start of the year that
this was not going to come out, even up until last month, possibly
last week, that this was not going to come out. Yeah, it's
just it's blowing both of our minds that we're here and we got this movie.
But I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just surprised that it came out.
That's yeah. Yeah, you know, they canceled the background movie.
There's been all sorts of happenings at DC. You know, obviously James Gunn
taking over. Now you say it doesn't stink, but does it stick out?
Uh no, but maybe that's a good thing. Ultimately, I don't
know if it is. We don't know, and I don't think anyone of
this movie knows if they're going to be back for another movie, so they
probably had to play it safe. Hope, you know, hope the character
in the movie was well received, and then maybe they'll pop up in James.
Not to spoil anything here, but we don't know if this is ending
a run, if it's beginning a run, if it's nothing. We know
nothing. We know nothing, And I'll be honest with you, no one
besides Peter Saffron and James Gunn know what the hell's going And also they mentioned,
you know, we're gonna have those Elseworld movies. They're not gonna have
anything to do with our continuity. If they just did a trilogy of these
three movies off on their own, that might not be the worst thing either.
Yeah. Maybe, And speaking of not knowing what's going on, I
would like to include every DC fan in that, because what we're gonna get
into in a couple of minutes here is the absolute abomination that is DC fans
reviewing DC movies. None, I'll tell you right now, none of the
audience scores makes sense, and that's it's absolutely mind blowingly go through this.
But Goo Yes, Blue Beetle is I guess the sixteenth entry into the Dcut,
Yeah, or the first into the James Gunns DCU, We're not sure,
the other fifteen or fourteen movies, and then of course the one season
of Peacemaker. This is a PG thirteen action adventure in sci fi with the
runtime of one hundred and twenty seven minutes, so just over two hours.
Goo. Speaking of those ratings on Rod Tomatoes currently seventy six percent from the
critics, ninety two percent from the audience, and Goo, those rate if
you include Peacemaker in all of this, Yes, that's the sixth highest critic
percentage. I'm not tomatoes, the second highest audience percentage. Goo. And
do you want to hear what the top four is from the audience? The
mount rushmore of dc EU movies according to the audience. Give it to me,
and then I'll explain why I think it's so high. Okay, Number
one Good at ninety three percent, the Snyder Cut, Number two is this
Blue Beetle, Number three Black Adam at eighty eight percent, and then number
four is Shazam Fury of the Gods at eighty six percent. So the reason
why I think this is so high is while I don't believe that it is
the best movie out of the bunch. I like some of the weirder selections.
I believe that this might be the most coherent, cohesive, and well
put together story that they've done so far. Yeah, I don't think you
don't really need to make an argument for this movie. This movie is legitimately
a decent movie. It's definitely a movie, right, It's well made,
there's some good acting in here. I really like the lead who I've never
seen anything before. And Goo, now that I'm thinking about it, you
could argue that the Snyder cut's not involved in any of this at all.
So this is you could argue this is the highest rated dc EU movie.
Like I was gonna make this example during the hot Dogs. But so I
would still take The Flash over this. But that's because I love Michael Keaton.
But if you said to me, Goo, you have to recommend a
movie to somebody, here are these two movies, Blue Beetle or The Flash,
and keep in mind they know nothing about anything, I would say watch
Blue Beetle. You know what, it's a good point. I have The
Flash definitively ahead of this movie in my year rankings, in my dc EU
rankings, but you're right, if you were just a common movie goer that
has not watched all other fifteen DCU probably the ones from the eighties the nineties,
I think Blue Beetle's gonna be the better watch for that person. That's
that's actually a good You can pick this up. You don't need to watch
any of the other movies. True, and maybe at the end of it
too, that's a bit of a detracting factor, a detractor because it doesn't
connect to anything at all. We don't know what universes, but also people
might be sick of shared universes and they're in on stuff like this. I
don't know. Yeah, But so anyways, back to DC fans being fucking
idiots. Uh, those top four and are then preceded by Wonder Woman at
eighty three percent, the Flash at eighty three percent, the Suicide Squad at
eighty two percent, and Szamin eighty two percent. To me, those are
probably the best four. Yeah, I would agree with you, But I'm
also gonna ask you the question of who is going on Rotten Tomatoes and putting
a user review in DC fans. No, but I'm just saying, like
we need to question rotten Tomato people are DC fans. They fucking came out
in droves, like four hundred thousand people to review the Snyder Cut. Most
of those are robots on Metacritic, and by the way, I think,
uh, I gotta give the critics credit here for accurately portraying the DCU.
I think they've pretty much nailed it from top to bottom, especially on Metacritic.
Here this is the fourth highest rated movie with a sixty one fifth overall
of you let me ask you, and you know, I know the answer.
But for the people at home is a sixty one good for a comic
book movie. It's probably about average sixties. And you know what, this
movie pretty average? Yeah, yep, played it safe, did some good
things, didn't stick out a ton and again maybe that's gonna bother some people.
I but considering what we've gotten in DC, I think they made the
reddist bothers me a little bit. But go ahead. The top three on
Metacritic, by the way, Wonder Woman, The Suicide Squad, and Shazam,
which are my top three, I think they're all above everything else.
That's because you just look at the metacritics and you're like, I think,
like these people, do you know your own opinion? The bottom three go
are BBS at a forty four, Black Adam at a forty one, and
Suicide Squad. I didn't realize Black Adam at a forty one. Yeah,
critics did not like Black Adam. Black Adam had a really bad rotten Tomato
credits in this movie. So Black Adam also did a bunch of stuff that
was super tropy, but it wasn't good. This movie also did a bunch
of super trophy origin story stuff, but it was at least adequate. And
I also think a massive factor in the difference between the two movies is Black
Adam had the biggest movie star in the world as the starring role, and
this movie has a relative unknown. He was in Cobra Kai, so some
people know him from there. I've never seen him in anything before, so
like that to me is preferable, especially for a character I know nothing.
Also, the surrounding cast around the main character here. I thought that everyone
in the family, maybe you can make an argument for George Lopez is very
charming and you believe that they love each other, and to that point in
Black Adam, they try to force feed you that family thing. Yeah,
and in this it just comes natural and it comes off as natural. It's
it's much better written in this than it is in Black Adam. In fact,
the family element in this reminds me a lot of the themes and the
tones that the first Shazam movie played with. I would say, yes,
but they played a little bit differently, and I think it hit just a
smidge better in this. Yes. Oh okay, I don't know if I
agree with that, but it's both movies might have made me cry for different
reasons. Yeah, I got you. I actually thought about that while I
was watching this movie that I thought about it too. Let's bring that back
up during spoilers, because I have a very weird take on it. Now,
okay, all right, good. This movie is written by Gareth Dunnett,
also als Sir Alco Sir A Lco c e er. I don't I
don't know how to pronounce that goo. You wouldn't know him from a fucking
thing. You've never seen or heard anything he's done before. Here's something that's
very intriguing on his IMDb p upcoming. He is writing a movie called El
Muerto, and it's about a wrestler who gains superpowers. Through a mystical mask
who originally fought Spider Man in a charity wrestling match in which he nearly unmasked
the Web Slinger before being stung by Spider Man with a paralyzing poison. I
have no idea what any of that sentence means. So intrigued by El Muerto,
I'm gonna have to see El Muerto if it ever gets made. So
sorry from staring off to the Sider, I'm trying to read that sentence again
and make heads or tales of it. But I will say one of the
best parts of this movie I felt like was the writing and the storytelling and
the soul of this movie also, and that comes from this gentleman, very
Spider Man like soul to the story as well, for sure. Yeah,
definitely some elements of that in here. Good. This movie is directed by
Angel or on Hell. I don't know how he pronounces it. Manuel Soto
also pretty much a first timer. You would know an absolutely nothing on his
IMDb page, which is pretty impressive considering that this movie has a whole lot
of no ones besides George Lopez, and it performed pretty well. It's gonna
outperform the box office box office expectation. It's outperforming any of the critic in
audience scores. We thought, so sort of a round of applause for everyone
involved in this, right, And also you mentioned George Lopez. I thought
that he was fine in this, but I think you could have found someone
else that was also a no name or just anybody else, and I think
they might have done better. I think Lopez was like, they're like,
all right, we gotta get one like B list celebrities. I understand that.
No, I know, and I you know while I was watching,
and I agree with you, but I feel like someone else could have nailed.
And maybe it's because I saw this movie in a theater with heart.
Maybe yes, Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart should have been the Mexican uncle.
When I was watching this movie, there were only four people in my theater.
So when I didn't laugh at a joke, So generally, when I'm
in a movie theater and I don't laugh at a joke, I will listen
for other people laughing at the jokes to make sure that like, maybe I'm
just laughing, but the joke still hits. But when you're there with only
four other people, you sometime question, like is this joke bombing. Is
this not a good joke? So that might be kind of missing on me
too. I went to a theater that wasn't packed, but there was a
good amount of people, and there was everyone laughing at George Lopez. It's
like two of the last four times I've gone. Now, the people directly
behind me, it was like three girls and two boys, all maybe about
twelve years old. I was gonna fight all fucking five of them. They
each got up to go to the bathroom three times. They were fucking whispering
behind me. I was legit ready to go to jail because of these fucking
idiots. I just can't stand the theater etiquette these days. Did they have
a trampoline and they were jumping at slow motion? Shut out, cutstance.
Marie give a synopsis of Blue Beetle. An alien scare him chooses college graduate
him Reyes to be its symbiotic host, bestowing the teenager with a suit of
armor that's capable of extraordinary and unpredictable powers, forever changing his destiny as he
becomes the superhero known as Blue Beetle. And here's a huge issue too.
If you're looking at someone who's like, oh, you know, I'm sick
of all these comic book movies. That seems like something that AI could have
written and said, hey, take a bunch of Marvel movies and put it
into one character. There is a lot of things in this movie that symbiote
Iron Man suit, this movie, uh, this character and of course you
and I, so you know, take this with a with a grain of
sand, as you do anything, salt to it. It's to say,
yes, sand, salt whatever. They're both small grains, both tastes great
on your sandwich. I couldn't want to say French fries. There we go.
Okay, yeah, you found it. There salt goes on. That's
fries. Number one answer in the board. Yes, we don't know fucking
thing about lue beetles. So this is also part of sheer ignorance. But
this character has a little bit of Iron Man nanotech, a little bit of
Green Lantern, can do whatever the fuck he wants with his imagination. And
also because he's a younger hero, there's a little bit of like a Spider
Man thing going on here as well, more specifically Spider Man dealing with a
Tony Stark suit. He doesn't know how to deal with it. So he's
learning on the fly and the AI is kind of guiding him. Also very
similar to like an ant man too, once again not knowing how to use
the suit, but then also having a mirror villain who's you know, trying
to use the suit for safety reasons. Well, I was actually more.
I mean, those things are true. I was referring more to him sort
of being like a Peter Parker type of No. I agree, but I'm
just want to toss more things. He uses a hammer at one point,
Thor has a hammer. Well it felt green lantern like because he can detect
anything with the ring. That's that's the vibes I'm getting. It's like shield
with the Captain America logo on it. Dude, this any stars? Uh
zolo x o l o Zolo married Duana as him. I thought he was
good. I thought he was awesome. He was really really nice job.
I'm looking forward. I'm you know, this movie wasn't the greatest thing ever,
but he was good enough that I actually hope we see him going for
Also, let me say this. I know that I'm making a lot of
jokes right now, but this cast is actually really good and I love the
family in it. I love the people that are portraying the family. I
thought, also, the girl who is playing Jenny Cord, you're about to
say her name, Bruna Marcazine. I believe she is. I don't think
the character is great at the beginning, but around the halfway point she kicks
into gear. Really the week length, the big stand out of Like she
Stinks is Susan Sarandon. Oh yeah, Susans, I thought you're talking about
the family. Still, No, no, No, family's great. First
of all in a marcusine. Very attractive female, so that definitely helps helps
you through the parts where she's not acting all that great credit to whoever cast
this movie because she is taller than Zolo. Yeah, you're right, you're
right, and so that gives a little gives a little bit of hope to
all of our short kings. Is that what they're element there? Is that
what they're called? You would know you're under six feet? I don't know.
Oh, let's let's hammer this out real quick. We were asked who
is taller online? I think we're the same height. No, I'm definitely
at least an inch, if not too I might give you a half inch
I'm listed at six foot that's a lie. I'm also listed at five eleven,
but I'm not. I'm at least five eleven. Yeah, you're five
eleven. I'm five ten and a half. And when I have my hair,
I'm taller than you. All right, no, no, no,
no, yeah, I'll throw my hair back out if I have to.
What. Becky g plays the Ai voice, the scare of voice, the
symbiote Kajada. Damian Alcazar plays the father, Alberto Rays George Lopez the uncle,
Rudy Reyes. Adriana Barrazza as Nana Reys. I did not care for
Nana. I'll tell you that I didn't care for the I thought the character
wasn't the best. It was too much. They did too much. I
did forget to mention. This is that. Alberto Reyes, the father,
played by Damian Alcazar. I loved him. He was great. He was
wonderful. Yes, yea very good. Yeah. Melissa Escobetto as Milligro Reys,
she was the sister. I thought she was great at being like the
annoying younger sister. She really nailed that. Elpitia Carillo as Rosso Rays.
That's the mother. Susan Surranded as Victoria Chord As Goose said, she was
fucking terrible, Like not just a bad character. I thought that she completely
you know what, very kind of reminded me of And maybe it's just because
they both have red hair. But what's her name in the second Kingsman movie,
Oh, Julianne Moore. Yes, a little bit like that. Well,
at least Julie and Moore was going for like a bit a character.
Yeah, Susan Surandon does not even try in this movie. Already look alike
to me. I'm sorry, it's terrible. Uh it was. It was
actually really annoying because the character stinks, right, but an actress with the
panache of Susan Surrandon should be able to punch that up a little bit,
and she failed miserably. Yeah, Harvey Giann plays her like right hand man
doctor Sanchez, which I'll say this. There was a point in the movie
and I know that they, you know, wanted him to be Hispanic,
but I said to myself, this guy should be played by Wayne Knight,
Like it's the perfect Wayne Knight role. What are we doing, folks?
Wayne Knights too too much of a bad guy. You need like a nicer
guy than that, but that type. But that would have been a great
turn because you assume he's a bad guy and then maybe he there's the opposite
of a heel turn. What's that called face turn? A face turn?
Yeah, he goes uh oh, I just had it in my fucking head.
What is French fries? He goes French fries and then goo. Finally,
the last person worth mentioning here is Raoul Max Trahelo as Carapas. He
was like the the extension of Victoria Chord. He was the big bad the
person that had to fight. He Actually that character sucked. I thought he
did a pretty decent job when he was asked to act a little bit,
and by the end it wasn't terrible. They at least gave him a little
something to you know, have you nibble on there. But between him and
the faceless bad guys that they just kind of ran through once again, it's
just stuff that we've seen, no doubt, no doubt. They just played
it real conservative. And I also know, like it's hard to do anything
different because they are still drawing from the comics and like that's a character from
the comics too, So they are doing what they're supposed to do. It's
just fifteen years too late. Yeah, well, I said that to myself.
This is the first time anyone's e said this that if this movie came
out ten years ago, I didn't I would have loved it. Yeah,
I think you're If this came out right around the time of Guardians, it
would have done. It would have been an absolute banger. Good. Yes.
For the folks that are listening right now and have not seen the movie
and plan on going to see, it's still spoil it free for a bid.
Here, there's one mid credit scene which could end up being meaningful going
forward. We really have no idea. And then there is a post credit
that's one of the worst post credits. Let me go ahead and do an
all waste of your little christ Are you? Tweeted that out and I said,
oh, Max's probably over exaggerating. I'm gonna go ahead and stick around
the extra five minutes you weren't. It is the worst post credit scene that
just don't waste your time with it. That's what it is. It's a
waste of time. It's useless. Yes, there's zero payoff there. It's
terrible. There is like there's no joke to it. No, there's not
it continue to joke for the movie. That was not funny. And even
if we understood what the reference is, if there is a reference, maybe
we would have gotten I giggled during the movie. Actually, the guy laughing
at it during the movie did make me laughing, like that's kind of funny.
But yes, maybe we did miss out on it. Maybe we miss
something maybe, and that's part of it. I will say, as much
as we you know, semi like this movie, Latin director, Latin writer,
I'm sure there were some Easter eggs and some some things in here that
we didn't pick up on. Maybe that's one of them. But boy was
that. Oh we'll also toss us out there too. Representation matters, Yes,
there you go. You also as a footnote at the twenty five minute
mark. That's the only time we're gonna say it. As we said above,
there's zero indication whether this is in or out of the DCU. We
have no fucking clue. The only thing we know about Blue Beetle is basically
that he's attached to Booster Gold at the hip. So thing that happens in
this mid credit scene might tie into that. We'll get to that in spoilers,
it's sort of more of a fan theory than anything. That's the only
real glimmer of hope. But other than that, we can get to the
gautlet. Oh before we get to the gauntlet. There's, first off,
a bunch of boner jokes in this movie, So credit there, but there's
one once he even covers up. Yeah, there's well there. So he's
wearing a sweatsuit. Yeah, and he gets an erection, yeah, because
Bruna is very hot, and he does this thing where like he pulls his
shirt over it and kind of like fixes from the bottom. And it makes
me think of back when we were in high school when we would get narbs
and we'd have to like take it and put it into our waistbands to hide
it for a little bit, like if we had to go from class to
class. Good, Yeah, I was, you know, I'm I live
a life of leisure here, always have, always will. I wore sweatpants
at every forsaken opportunity in my whole life and all always will very comfortable.
There was a certain point in middle school when I realized middle school of high
school that you know, a couple of years transition. Oh, I gotta
put the sweatpants away for a couple of months here because I'm gonna have a
boner. I'm gonna have a boner walking down the hallway. I'm gonna need
to wear jeans, maybe maybe some khakis. But it is not hashtag sweatpants
season round here once again, Like I said, what you would do is
you just put it in the sweatband waste and just make sure that your shirt
was long enough because you don't want that to show. Yeah, and well,
I don't know. I'm speaking from from the Irish perspective here. We
all we all know that you have a wrench, so maybe you just kind
of let it hung out there. You know. I'm trying to think if
I would do that with jeans on too, because that's that's not safe.
Well, you you are a real tight gene wear. I wasn't super tight
gene wear when I was in high school though. Maybe that's true. Yeah,
maybe that's true. I was a little bag here. I had my
Vans, my audios on. You know, I had my Zeppelin shirt and
a horrible head of hair on you, I had a beautiful head of hair.
Well, one year I had a beautiful head of hair. One year.
It was a real rats nast. When you died at Blonde, that
was the worst thing you've ever done. That was the beginning of the end
of my life. So we get into the Gauntlet air. Yeah, okay,
all right, Mac fun factor, And I think that is one of
the issues of the movie is that it does lack a little in the fun
Like it is cool seeing him use his power as a bit, but I
didn't find it very funny, and that did take away from it. Yeah,
the way I'm looking at this because I also like, wasn't that bored
throut? And I never thought to myself like, oh, like this needs
a bunch more. I thought it was like fun enough for most of the
run time. It's neither hysterical nor is there It's not like a big adventure
either, but it was just kind of fun enough throughout to make it work
satisfactor. And there was one part of the movie where you know he's finally
realizing who he is and he's becoming this hero and he breaks through the shackles
and then you hear this swelling music of just now listen up. Here's a
story about a little guy who lives in a blue world. And then he
starts kicking ass to the music. Now, if this movie was directed by
a white man, that song, no doubt would have made it into the
movie. I would have done what Taikawatiti did with Immigrant Song and Thor and
used it a hundred times go. It also lacks like a big standout moment
which ties in the pants tensity a little bit, but also in a satisfactor
here it was like satisfying to see him, you know, become the full
blue Beeto sort of thing. I also was pretty satisfied by the conclusion of
the movie too, to be honest with you. So there are some satisfying
things in here, but it's not like crazily satisfying borometer and I thought it
was a bit boring in its trophy nature. But I will say that like
they when they introduced a trope, they didn't go like full into it.
They would divert it just enough so that it wasn't the complete same as everything
else. And also at the beginning of the third act it did drag for
me quite a bit. Yeah, not so much for me. I actually
thought, for two hours and seven minutes this was paced really well. We
got to it felt like we got to the third act super fucking quick,
so I actually didn't have really any born in this movie at all. A
equator, is it better than twenty seventeen's Aquaman? Now, I still might
enjoy the cheesiness of Aquaman over this, But like I already said, this
is a it's a far superior movie. It's an easier it's an easier recommendation
Halloween. Will my interest in this movie wane over time. I don't think
I'm ever gonna rewatch or even remember most of this. Yeah, I don't
blame you or anyone for coming away with that feeling. My take on this
is we have no idea if this means anything going forward or how this is
going to play out with the DCU. So maybe there will be reason to
come back to us at some point, but currently there there really isn't.
What if James Gunn does a Twitter poll should discount what would you vote?
I would say yes, I would say yes, you know what? I
think? I'd say yes too, Yeah it's good enough, unless he's like,
it'll play. Then I'd be like, okay, well then don't.
Why would you ask us if if you aren't sure? Why would you ask
us that's what I would say, pot pants tense City Excite bike Mania.
Even with the mirror villain, there were some parts of the fights that I'm
like, oh, that's pretty cool. Unless you want to count the Bruno
Marcazine pants tent factor here, there's not really a pants ten and I would
say, actually, there's tons of pants tense in this movie. In the
movie itself, he's just rocket a boner constantly. And also there's like the
one scene where is like, I can't fly and they're like, well,
just take it slow, don't think too hard about it, and then George
Lopez is like, no, just jump right in there. That was actually
his best joke in the movie. There was definitely some cool stuff with the
tech, like nanotech type looking stuff that we've seen in an Iron Man,
some Green Landing looking type stuff, so that that was some fun stuff,
but again it gets taken away because we've seen it somewhere before. Max Credit
Union and I would like to give credits to the family aspect of this movie.
Yeah, I'll backside one eighty off of that. It's sort of in
the same vein here. Credit to Gareth Dunnett Alcacer. Alcacer, the writer
of this movie. Who wrote this script with the heart and the family element
in this baked in. It didn't go out of its way to give you
that. It just felt right and natural in the movie, and honestly is
what carries the movie. And I think, I mean that was what five
years ago now, when the first Shazam came out. That was like such
a nice thing coming away from Shazam because as much as we have liked these
Marvel movies, there haven't been a ton of like family type elements in the
Marvel movies. That's been any of the thor movies. That's a nice,
like little niche that we've seen in DC a couple of times. Now.
For those of you Tardi to the Mac and Goop party, we rate everything
on a forty hot dog rating system, and Mac, I don't want to
undersell this. The family dynamic is dynamite and you feel, like I said
earlier, they would do all of this stuff for each other. You never
once question. Yes, absolutely, the cast is good. Zolo Mardueno is
likable as the leading man. George Lopez is funny enough. The mother is
good, the sister is good. I didn't mind the grandmother. The character
of Jenny Ford. I thought little stale at the beginning. What did I
say, Ford? Yeah? Ford, What did I say? It's Cord,
you said Ford, gazoom tight, little stale at the beginning, but
midway through I did like her along. Damian al kass Hour is awesome.
I think the father is wonderful in this. Also, it is very very
well made. The big issue here is Susan Sarandon, her character. Also,
Chord stinks terrible. The storyline sucks. It's something that we've seen a
million times, and speaking of a million times, just the Origin tropes,
the mirror villain with you know, same tech, but we're trying to use
it in as safe. We're trying to keep the world safe with it,
when in fact they're not learning your powers. The reluctant hero, the suit,
you know, he's too invincible, he can't be killed, kind of
the death of a family member to help you reach your potential. It's just
stuff that we've seen a million times. And also it's not It's funny enough,
but it isn't funny. Ha ha. I have this around thirty one
hot Dogs. Yeah, I think I'm feeling very similar to you for the
most part. You're feeling twenty three. I thought it was a very solid
origin story, not necessarily good, but good enough did the job. What
I did really like about it was weaving in the older Blue Beetles stuff with
the Scarab like the older Chord tech with the Scarab stuff. I thought they
did a good job with that decent comedy couple. Ha has no real hysterical
belly laughing here, and again, like Goose said, there's a really good
heart to this movie. It's giving me Shazam vibes with the family dynamic.
And also again you have some Spider Man young hero type stuff going on,
so that's that's a nice little dynamic as well. I thought this was movie
was very well paced. I also liked the music selection in here. Good
music, good score. It elevated the movie a little bit. I thought
going with a relative unknown Zolo in that role the role was a great call.
He was very good and again I'd like to see him going forward.
And as I mentioned before, going with a Latin director and writer, I
felt like they had like a pretty clear vision together. They knew the movie
they wanted to put together and they delivered that. And I'm sure there's stuff
in here that we're not appreciating that other people will. Again, We've seen
everything in this movie a thousand times, but it was done well enough.
The biggest downside here is the villains and the quote unquote bads in this movie.
Susan Sarandon's what is it? What Vulk was she? Or what Vulk
was her name? Vulk the vu Chord Chord, Victoria Chord, that's her
name. She was fucking terrible. I'm sure the character is supposed to be
one note, but she could have done a better job. She just didn't
feel like it. And of course the mirror villain was not that good.
Although I did sort of like how that called, you know, she reminded
me of actually is Lucy lu in the last Jasim movie? Actually comparison,
I bad for Lucy Lou and the lash Zam movie. I didn't feel bad
for Susan Sarandon in this Ignore me go on do. I also did not
really care for anything surrounding the grandmother. That was a little too much too
goofy for me, A little too goofy. I do have this At thirty
two hot Dogs, I was like thirty one thirty two leaving the theater,
I'm comfortable with thirty two. This is my fifteenth best movie of twenty twenty
three. It's sitting number five in my DCU rankings, maybe six. I
guess if you want to throw a peacemaker in there, it's right in that
sort of same range. This definitely has an argument though an argument can be
made that this is in the top four of the DCU. I probably wouldn't
make it, but I could see someone making that argument. The Blue the
movies below this movie are like well below in the DCU for me. Like,
to me, this is like maybe the bottom of that second tier,
and then below this there's a there's a pretty steep drop off to the next
tier of movies. So this is this is a legit, well done movie.
I think it deserves whatever praise it's been getting so far. I think
a little bit is because it's it's it's a bit of a surprise that the
just this didn't suck. But you know what, let's get let's have DC
get a win. We'll give him one. Yeah, I would say that
I probably have it either fifth or six this top of my head, I
would have it below Wonder Woman, Shazam, Suicide Squad, the suicide squad.
Sorry, right, yeah, I would have it below the Flash would
have it below the Snyder cut by just a smidge. Snyder Kirk just took
a couple more chances. I do like the chances over the easier move I
can't. Oh, and Peacemaker, it's like right around Peacemaker, I got
Flash fourth, and then I have this Peacemaker and Man of Steel sort of
all in the same range. Shall we start spoiling? Yeah, spoilers,
spoilers, mac. First things first, we talked about it at the beginning,
or I just talked about it once again during my hot Dogs. But
in this movie, in order for Blue Beetle to you know, really discover
who he is, to achieve his ultimate blue self, I prettymaturely blue myself.
I wish I had that on the board. But his dad has to
die. Yeah, and the scene of his dad dying got me a little
reclemped. You know, they didn't do it stupidly either. It was actually
they lay the groundwork with it with the cardiac issues, and it plays out
like the way. It's a little cheesy the way it's acted out, but
the scenario wasn't completely stupid, and it made sense within the part of the
story and then when he comes back and that sort of astral plane that I
didn't love that party that wasn't That wasn't my favorite party. But it's like
it's like a classic thing. So I accept that. But you're right,
the father and this did a great job. When the father is dying and
the entire family is like, you know, very distraught, I was like,
wow, that does hit me. And then that got me thinking of
like, you know, say if this is us, say if we were
in these movies, Mac, sure we're getting to the point where we would
be the parents that are killed off. You actually you want to know.
It bothered me, and now I can't I keep these criticisms to myself because
of my real life job. When someone has collapsed on the ground and potentially
in cardiac rest, you start CPR. You don't just nail there and cry.
You start CPR. And there was like it was the family, though
there was even more so. There was like thirty four people there and on
that fucking block, and not one person did CPR. Did you jump out
of your chair to try and help him? That bothers It bothers a shit
out of me. But no, no media gets that right, so like,
I can't really use it as a legit complaint. Good. Yes.
The only real crazy uh maybe spoiler in this here is there's a mid credit
scene. Uh and during the movie they open up the Blue Beetles layer underneath
the old Chord mansion and George Lopez's character eventually turns the computer on. The
mid credit scene cuts back to that computer going a little fuzzy, and all
of a sudden you hear a voice and it says, uh, this is
Ted Cord. Please tell my daughter I'm alive. Something to that effect.
Well, go, that matters, or maybe it does. We don't really
know, but it might matter. Here's why. A little little research for
the Ted Chord And actually in this movie as well, they mentioned it is
the second Blue Beetle but never made connection with the Scarab. The first one
that they mentioned was Dan Garrett, who had actually had a connection with the
Scarab prior to Ted Chord. Because Ted never made a connection with the Scarab,
that's why he creates all this tech and has that layer and all these
gadgets and whatnot. So we're presumed he's presumed dead, but we find out
he's actually just stuck in. We don't really know where an alternate to mention
another time, the future, future past, We're not sure. But he's
still able to communicate with whatever tech he has, and this is meaningful go
because Booster Gold, the one thing we know about him is he's a hero
from the future that stole a bunch of tech, including time travel tech,
came back to the past, teamed up Blue Beetle, and they were like
a crime fighting duo. So the theory is goo that it's paul Le,
Booster Gold and Ted's Blue Beetle are sort of like lost in time, trapped
in some sort of time loop, and they need help getting out. And
if that's the case, I think you could argue this might actually be in
the DCU. Yeah, I could see that as long as as long as
James enough votes. But but it is interesting. I also heard that the
original cut of this movie was thirty minutes longer. They had to cut out
thirty minutes here. Well, I think it had more connections, and in
the two years since this movie was announced, a lot of things have changed,
so I wonder if there would have been a Booster Gold deleted scene something
like that. But I'm intrigued by that, because again, this movie was
good enough to be a part of James Gunns DCU, and I think ultimately,
even if we didn't love this movie, the fact that it's good enough
for us to accept it in the new DCU, if it happens to get
there, I think is a great thing for this movie. In a very
surprising fact, for this movie. I mean, I am interested. I
would love to see what they plan on doing with this character. I've already
mentioned, like I want to. I really wouldn't mind if he's just off
on his own and he has his own trilogy and movies that loosely tie in
but don't really that's a little bit more of like the Spider Man aspect too,
where he's more isolated, you know, doing his more friendly neighborhood type
of thing. That's really all I have for the spoiler. That's really it
not a time to spoil. I'm just I'm honestly stunned that this movie was
one of the better DC movies we've gotten. It really doesn't make any sense.
So thirty one, Hot Dogs, thirty two, Yeah, let's get
into Max and Max sac could be anything it could be about. In mac
This week, I thought, we start to get into another little hot spot
on the internet, and that is pack breaking. Pack breaking, okay,
like and card packs, yeah, ripping card packs. So okay, we'll
kind of pack of cards you get there? I have here. This was
given to me at one of our live events, Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles to
the Secret of the Ooze unopened, unopened. Wow, so what a ride
we're about to go. There is a sticker in here and there are cards.
Eight cards. Okay, Now, if you could pull up the Beckett
Guide just to let me know what these are all worth, definitely not gonna
do that, my computeral crash. How many cards in total are in this
collection? I do not know. Okay, that's a great enough about this
collection, all right. So on the package that says the movie sequel,
dudes, Michaelangelo says that, of course, so they made this in conjunction
with Secret of the US. Yes, so let's pull up the old video
showing toes for free. Here we go. Okay, so I need to
turn turn it like this? Whoa good one to start up with? The
underground escape from Michelangelo's Yeah there you go, all right, I go like,
that's better move them towards your left hand a little more. There we
go. Okay, so we got Tatsu and tokar. Oh, that's a
great one right there, that's a good one. I'm gonna put that one
in my plastic shell. I think that and the sheathing. Oh we got
that. They're babies. Wow, what a pole. A pole I can
retire and my kid can go to college. Right there, I'm gonna pull
that one off to the side. Look at that one out real well.
For the people listening to the episode speaking of well, all's well that ends.
Well, that's what's on this card. You get all four turtles in
there. They all four turtles. This one is uh oh, the one
with all of them in the nets adding the hero yet no, no,
no, their babies is the best one. I like how they have to
put a tagline with all these. They could have just let the image live.
Oh clawberd bi Kino. This is a great one. Throw that one
right in the trash. It's not a good one. You're right. Last
one a bogey like farewell. Oh. This is when they were doing the
spoof from Casablanca. All right, and Michaelangelo is like, here's looking at
you, kid. You know because all of us kids in the nineties were
like, ah, Casablanca, the first ever pack rip here on the Mac
and Goop program of a smashing success. If I do say so myself and
a sticker of Shredder with probably gonna put it on my shirt, I'd assume
you definitely would have done that in ninety two. Oh, I would have
absolutely. Isn't that weird how stickers go on shirts when you're a kid,
and then as an adult, that's like the last thing you'd put it on.
So I will either frame this one or send it to Billy d as
payment for him doing all of our work on the show. Yeah. And
if you if you really want one of these cards, leave a review and
ask you for Yeah. No, if you want any of these cards,
and you need to tell us also which card you want specifically. Yeah,
Like if you can quote the card, that'd be great, because otherwise I'm
not gonna know what's happening. Like if if you say to me, goo,
I want the one with Tokar's feet right right, Michelangelo tickling his feet
by the way, this is uh, this is Raisar. I misspoke earlier.
This is Tatsu and raise are I can't believe you went a third camera
on a share instead of just showing the camera you already had in front of
you. No, all the card breaks always have like the under the table
one. Yeah, they have. They have like a set up looking directly
if we're professional. Keep in mind, I have three more of these packs
that I have socks. By the way, I have some Batman Returns packs
and Batman the Animated series packs. So we're all set for the next couple
of months. Wow, we're fucking locked. And look, max sack is
filled with cards. Now we're gonna people find us. Mac can find us
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I'm going to figure that out. I don't know if that's possible. No,
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So that'll do it. That'll do it. This one's mine. I'm
keeping this one. So also, we'll do a dump at the end of
the week, and we have to figure out stuff moving forward because there's no
more movies. Yeah, they've shut down for the year. I guess we'll
just do more card openings. I suppose, no doubt. Send us cards,
Send us some ninety nine tops. That's my favorite set. I know
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