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Nine, five miles an hour,
riding to his head. He hopped down

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first with the lumpbonius face, and
on the very next pitch he up and

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stole second face with greatst be he
wasn't born, he had yes. Well.

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Welcome to episode thirteen of the Prospect
B Sides podcast. I am your

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host Nate Handy, joined again by
the hottest rookie in the B siding land,

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Matt. Matt, how are you
my friend? Burning up? You

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know it's turning fall here, and
so we've got the central air pumping even

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though it's like a lovely fifty degrees
outside. So I'm hot. So,

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Matt, we had the forty man
rosters get settled. What yesterday was the

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deadline? Some players that we've talked
about in the past couple episodes here that

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got protected and unprotected, And I
was just curious, maybe you had some

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thoughts on some of these guys,
as Troy Johnston was not protected, So

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you think Rule five draft is gonna
happen for him? There? I gotta

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think some some teams would be,
uh, would be interested or taking a

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look. I gotta think so.
I mean, he was one that I

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think we speculated about. Would he
get protected or not. And you know,

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he's the kind of guy that often
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because it's not upside play. It's
more, you know, depth on your

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big league squad, Like he's going
to be a big leaguer, but how

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much impact is that going to be? But I think it's weird that Miami

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didn't protect him, Like that's kind
of a guy that they might need,

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right, But I don't know that
that one was a bit odd to me.

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Yeah, and I saw another one
of your hitter draft d's playe Krim

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went unprotected, but you had kind
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I think that that one makes more
sense to me because the Rangers have

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just a lot of depth, especially
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And he's worse too, I think
than Johnston. Just the overall packages is

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not quite as good. You know, obviously, with Nathaniel Lowe and Justin

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Foscue firmly ahead of him in the
exact same position, it's not a big

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surprise to see Krim go unprotected,
But I wonder if they're if at or

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might might pick him up and see
what he can do. Yeah, I

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was kind of looking at two different, three different kind of sources to gather

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this information. But I think Turso
or Naels also went unprotected. Yes,

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a little interesting in regards to the
Rule five draft perhaps and then maybe maybe

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some lesser names that that I don't
think are really uh probably Rule five radar,

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but but what do I know.
Alberto Rodriguez or Williams Sedanio, Yadiel

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Sanchez, Shay Whitcombe, Miguel Palma, a guy that I'm going to talk

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about tonight, Dan Frees, Christian
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about last week. Those guys all
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stay where they are, right.
We did have some of our peace siders

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get protected, which is nice to
see, especially for them. Kyder Montero,

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who was my Tigers pitching selection last
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with the A's pitcher with the A's
that we had briefly mentioned, Basso got

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protected. Pitcher with the Rangers that
you had briefly brought up, Jose Corneel,

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and then Matt, look at this
are three giant arms that we got

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into the most your boy tang Trevor
McDonald and Eric Miller all made the forty

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man. I was pleasantly surprised to
see that McDonald made it on my couch

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here. I didn't think that they
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they need to protect from other teams. But there they go. They they

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done did it. Yeah, that
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it is a real feather in your
cap to call that one and say,

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hey, this is a guy worth
following, because, like you said,

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the production history isn't long, but
what he has done has been really impressive.

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That is the kind of guy that
you could see get scooped up,

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shoved into the back of a bullpen
and someone carries him all year and then

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they've got him for cheap for a
long time. So it's like the kind

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of profile that you can see somebody
scooping in a Rule five. But great

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call by you to see that one
coming. Yeah, we'll see how that

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goes. And then my Phillies picture
selection. Obviously we haven't gotten there yet,

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but I saw they protected a little
spoiler here, Samuel elde Gary,

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who's a left hand pitcher in their
system in the lowers still, so that

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was kind of interesting to see now, Matt, we have done the AL

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West, the NL West, We'll
be getting into the AL Central tonight,

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right And I had kind of just
zoomed out a little bit and put a

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little list together of games that we
have brought up in the shows, and

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I noticed something kind of interesting that
I wanted to just bring up here.

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In our drafts. AL West we
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had eight players. In the AL
Central, which we'll talk about tonight,

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we had seven players, and then
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three players apiece in our drafts.
I find this geography a little bit interesting.

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Now. Do you think that we
have a West Coast bias here,

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you being in the Northwest and me
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Best coast baby, or do you
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siding is a little richer the further
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all of the coverage over there.
On prospects, I am gonna guess that

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this isn't a product of East Coast
bias, you know, while there may

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be some of that, I mean, but I think of like I picked

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Caleb Durban and he's a Yankees prospect, right and sure that's like is the

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Pittsburgh minor league hype machine up and
running? You know? Like are people

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really hyped about the Nationals pipeline or
you know what I mean? Like,

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I just don't know if that East
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And I'm guessing that this is more
just a product of who who is

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available within the realm that we're looking
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that. No. I have noticed
over the last couple of seasons and wondered

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about this. I feel like the
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Texas League. I kind of feel
like maybe we've had our best B side

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success stories come from those leagues,
which of course are further west. Maybe

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even the Midwest League to some extent
too. So I don't know, just

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something I noticed and it's a little
curious about. And I don't know,

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Matt, if you saw the Welsh
and the toasts of the Welsh here,

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if it wasn't for Chris Welsh prospect
one, this podcast probably wouldn't exist.

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So thank you Welch. But he
was he and Frank Stample from CBS I

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saw interviewed Carson Williams after an AFL
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All Star Game or what it was, but he says something really interesting to

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me and let me And this kind
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I had first started doing some stuff
at pitcher List. I was in their

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discord and I had brought up the
notion of minor leaguers. How do I

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say it, sort of playing pitching, hitting to development versus pitching playing,

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et cetera. Two results right,
And I got a lot of I got

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a lot of pushback during that conversation. Folks. You know, no way

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these guys are competing. They're out
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I don't know what it was.
Maybe a year or two later,

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I heard Jeff Ponce talking to the
then Mariners double a pitching coach, and

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him talking a little bit about how
it is tricky, how that is a

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tricky thing for a coach, results
right now versus results later becoming better for

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the future. But fast forwarding to
this interview, I heard Carson Williams say

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something to the effect of talking about
the AFL saying, this is practice right.

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They had asked a question about his
AFL stats. I believe, but

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he said this is practice, right, he said, the minor leagues,

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it's all practice. It's all practice
for the big leagues, that thing,

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that concept is kind of always at
the forefront for me when I'm watching some

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minor leaders, specifically pitchers. I
don't know, I was going to say,

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no, I was going to say, I think that that can be

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a lot more true for pitchers than
for hitters. And this gets back at

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something we were talking about a little
while ago, where a pitcher can really

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pop up, I think a lot
faster than a hitter can, you know,

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learn a new your development gets better, and all of a sudden,

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one off season comes and you're throwing
harder, or you've worked on your pitch

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shapes, or you're positioning. Like
one change can do a lot for a

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pitcher, It is a lot harder
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hitter. It is a lot rarer, I think, to see a big

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change like I was just working on
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real as a hitter. I mean, it just happens. The pitch sequence

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happens so fast that you kind of
can't fake it, you know, you

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can't really be like, oh I'm
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up looking like real competitive mode,
you know what I mean? Like that's

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I think that that's it's just a
harder thing to turn on for a hitter,

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especially game to game or definitely at
bat to at bat. So I

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find, Yeah, what Williams is
saying about this is all practice for the

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big leagues, that is true,
but what is practice look like for a

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hitter versus a pitcher. For a
hitter, your practice looks more like this

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is what game speed is going to
be at the big league level, and

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you don't want to throw away those
reps. So I tend to think that

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you see a little more of that
experimentation on the pitching side, where I'm

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focusing on a pitch that maybe isn't
my bread and butter, isn't good because

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I wanted to get it to okay
rather than the bad where it is.

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Whereas with hitting, it's like your
approach is your approach, and your swing

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is your swing, and it just
you are using that same thing over and

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over again. It's tough. I
know in my experience, like I was

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constantly I was a tinkerer. I
was always had some little change to my

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stance or hands or bat position,
or was always thinking about what pitch was

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coming and what I was trying to
do with that pitch, probably to my

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detriment, honestly, Like, that's
probably too much thinking the slow part of

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your brain rather than competing with the
fast part of your brain. You know

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those psychological terms. But I think
that was me who wasn't very good,

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and these guys, like the guys
that are really good, they're constantly competing

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and it's a lot harder to fake
it as a hitter. I think it's

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funny you mentioned that thinking thing.
There was at some point in the Rockies

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season there was some sort of team
meeting that some players had talked about,

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or maybe I heard it from a
Bud Black interview, but the gist was

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Black men got all the young guys
together and was basically trying to tell them

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that they needed to stop thinking that
they're going to be at the best when

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they were at the plate brain shut
off. Strongly agree. You know,

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I are many many listeners don't know, but my hobby for keeping in good

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shape is playing tennis. That's sort
of a recent thing for me. In

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the last couple of years I've picked
up tennis and I really love it.

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It's so fun. But it's been
a fascinating reintroduction into this idea of how

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do you get better and how do
you perform? Because tennis, like baseball,

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there's a lot of room for thinking, a lot of like what would

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I do in this situation or this
thing is happening and I have to make

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a split second decision. Do I
throw it to second, do I throw

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it to first? Do I hit
a cross court? Do I hit it

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down the line? A lot of
similarities, But I find myself in tennis

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thinking too much, and recently I've
been playing quite a bit better, I

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think, and part of this is
because I'm doing a better job of shutting

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off that thinking part, and I'm
just like, yeah, you hit a

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slice serve out wide, rather than
thinking about, oh, that means I

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should slice it back cross court short
to draw you in and then do this

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Like, that's too much thinking to
happen in the half second that it takes

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from the ball to gain from their
racket to mine. Instead, it's just

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watch the ball, see the spin, and just let your shot happen.

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And that has a lot of similarities
to hitting in baseball. And when I

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was going best at hitting, it
was definitely because I was in and wasn't

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thinking about too many things and said
was doing See Matt, this is reason

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number seven hundred and fifty four.
Pitchers are better than hitters because hitters have

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to be brain dead individuals up there. Well, pitchers have to use their

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their brains, they have to use
their heads, they have to think about

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their choices. They do. But
I think that the act of executing a

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pitch is still the same thing.
Yeah, you get the chance to think

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about it ahead of time, like
I'm gonna throw this pitch and I'm going

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for this location. But in order
to make that actually happen, you kind

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of can't think. You can't like
overthink about where is it gonna go.

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Sure, I maintain that the performance
of a pitch is the same as the

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performance of a swing. It's just
that because you get to initiate the action,

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you can plan a little bit more
ahead of time, you know what

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I mean? Sure, I agree
there's but they still have to use their

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brains where hitters don't really have them. So, yeah, except no pictures

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call their own game these days,
it's all to do and Oh, I

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don't know. I see some of
those guys pushing some buttons on that thing

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like that, like and gallon,
gallon, and that's it. Maybe more

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of them should call their own games. Anyways, let's let's get into it.

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Huh. Let's get into the al
central here. Last last week I

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had made some sort of snide remark
about how this might be torturous, But

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I don't think b siding in this
division is torturous. We took, like

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I said, we took seven players
in our drafts. That's the second most

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out of any division. Why don't
we start with your Chicago White Sox as

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behind you. It's it's it ain't
easy, Matt. It ain't easy.

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Forty three years of this and I
think I've I've got a foot out the

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door. But yeah, okay,
let's uh. I don't have much say

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about pictures because I selected Tyler Schweitzer
in our Pictures draft. I like the

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look of him and his potential as
a starting pitcher in their system. I

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think has a nice, full starter's
repertoire that has been getting some teeth.

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I'm looking for him to be in
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Will get a little better idea.
Last season, I had selected Cole

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Simus, and very reluctantly I didn't
know if he was going to be a

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starter reliever. He did not have
a very good season. I did not

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have a ton of interest in Cole
Simus. I do think that he could

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potentially be a serviceable reliever. But
enough of him. What do you got,

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Matt, You got any interesting arms? Well, I'll start on a

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down note, because you know,
you seemed like you were leaning into someone

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trying to talk you out of your
fandom. Here on the pitching side,

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it wasn't great. The two guys
that I think people are familiar with and

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maybe have some broader interests in Mana
and Mistrini. I think both are pretty

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well known and are I think both
decent. They've both got a shot to

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be real contributors. But they were
way too owned for this, so they

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were not interesting to me. And
the guy that I was going to take,

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I realized I mostly was going to
take based on what he had done

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in the Yankees organization, so I
was going to take one Corella, but

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he came over in a trade this
year with the White Sox and was pretty

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bad after the trade. Like I
watched some of the video, and you

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know, he's like twenty one,
kind of a skinny, athletic looking right

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hander, and the stuff plays decently
like he gets his strikeouts pretty well,

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except that they really regressed after the
trade. The walks also ticked up from

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acceptable to not good, and I
was like, you know, we got

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to give it another season before we
can call this really a White Sox B

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side. He's someone to monitor because
I think there's a lively arm there and

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the stuff looked okay, maybe he
can pull it together. So I decided

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not to go with him, maybe
also hedging with like the White Sox might

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screw this guy up. So I
am picking on the pitching side, a

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guy by the name of Mason Adams. He is an athletic looking righty as

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well, little bit more of a
three quarter whippie delivery ninety one to five

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on the fastball. He might throw
two fastballs. I saw a lot of

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two seamers, a lot of two
seam sinker types, which works well from

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that arm slot, and he gets
a decent number of ground balls off of

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the fastball as well as his other
pitches too. His gyro slider slash cutter

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is pretty firm. It's in the
mid to upper eighties. I got it

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a lot in the eighty seven eighty
eight range. So like that paired with

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this two seamer that's kind of running
the other way. Also gets a decent

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number of ground balls and a decent
number of whiffs. His line for the

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full year, he ended the year
at double A. He spent most of

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the year at high but he ended
the art at double A. Twenty seven

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percent strikeout rate, six point three
percent walk rate. So you know how

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I love that combo right, striking
guys out and not walking them. That's

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a recipe for success. So I
liked what he had. You know,

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he mixed in a curve and a
change that was a little firmer than I

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would like. I think the change
maybe doesn't play. It was really like

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primarily two pitches in the two seam
and the slider cutter. But then he'll

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mix in some curves as well and
then ask us a few change ups to

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lefties. Yeah, it's a it's
a four pitch mix that I don't know.

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For someone that got drafted in the
twelfth round in twenty twenty two,

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he looked pretty good. And whether
that's a development win for the White Sox

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or just a diamond in the ref
that they found. He looks like a

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back end starter material to me.
So I liked what I saw out of

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Adams, and he seems like a
true White Sox that nobody's talking about.

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I mean, he was zero percent
owned when I saw this when I pulled

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this in September. I haven't looked
at the the latest fan tracks members,

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but Mason Adams, I think is
not someone that is finding a lot of

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coverage on other lists. And I
don't think he was on ba's top thirty

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for them, and I haven't seen
much on him otherwise. So Mason Adams,

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I think, is a nice diamond
in the rough for your Chicago White

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Sox. Right on. Nice.
I am not familiar. I purposely do

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not pay much attention to the White
Sox farm system. I don't need the

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double pain. Obviously, I'm not
completely naive to what they got going on.

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I will tune in and watch some
guys from time to time, but

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in all I try to I try
to avert my eyes to it all.

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So thank you. I had no
clue who that was. So right on,

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that's Matt I think last season,
I think we picked pretty nice B

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sider here in centerfielder Jacob Burke,
who hm I think has has a chance

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here now. He's still as of
September was still only one percent rostered,

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so still very much in B side
territory. He was in the AFL this

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last month. I think he did
some things that Beckhead had mentioned that he

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kind of got his attention when he
was down there. Plays his game really

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hard. Let's see, he was
in single A and hi A this season.

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Eleventh round draft pick out of Miami
last year, Like I said,

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hit two ninety four, three ninety
two on base, slugged four thirty nine,

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hit what like six home runs,
stole nineteen bases. But yeah,

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especially in that system, I think
I think he's got a real shot to

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get some time. It's not like
he's got a leap frog a old ton

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of talent, I don't think.
So. Another guy to keep an eye

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on this season. Yeah, I
don't know my short list here. There

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are some names to some extent,
right, DJ Gladney Wilfred. I don't

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really particularly care for either of those
those bats. I don't know if you

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watched any Matt Oh, Yeah,
I actually love the White suck system for

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B siding. I'm going to jump
in here because I actually think there's a

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ton of interesting guys here of one
type or another. This was one of

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my favorite ones to go through.
There were actually a lot that I watched

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because I kept being like, Oh, this guy's interesting for this reason or

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the other. But Varus is someone
I wanted to touch on just because I

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think he's so funny, Like he
looks like he shouldn't be fast, but

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he's fast. You know, he's
kind of rotund, but he stole twenty

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four bags this year, and as
a corner outfielder, he's got some athleticism

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to him that you wouldn't really expect
just seeing him stand there. He hit

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seventeen homers, you know, over
basically a full season, so it's not

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nothing with the bat. And I'm
not sure how their double A park plays,

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but I seem to remember being average
to below. You know, it's

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like a real a decent showing for
to put up seventeen humbers. So I

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actually liked Varius quite a lot.
He was almost my selection, but ended

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up ended up moving away from him
because the k's were a little high and

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I did think that he was being
maybe a bit more opportunistic with his steals

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rather than like this is showing that
real plus speed. I do think Varius

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has a future eighty grade though being
out of shape and fat, I know,

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I was like, what is this
eighty grade? I don't think so.

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Yeah, he's he's pretty portly,
okay, okay, well fair enough,

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fair enough. I don't know if
you watched what this tenth round pick

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got ole miss. Last year,
tim Elko hit like almost thirty home runs,

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but I think the majority of those
were maybe an a ball or high

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a. He strikes out quite a
bit, though I don't know about I

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don't know about all that there.
They do have this catcher who well,

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I kind of liked that that.
I watched a little lefty Michael Turner,

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probably more of a potential real life
prospect. I don't. I think he's

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a little light hitting. And then
I was curious what you think about loidl

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Chappelli. I think that's how you
say it. I love him like I

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love it, like, yeah,
he's one of those. He's one of

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those. He's like five two and
you love those, Yeah, I do.

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He's tiny and he's he you know
like that. He's definitely not someone

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who wows you and even some of
the other things that I usually like,

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having really good plate skills, like
you think with this kind of little spark

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plug type, but he's got too
much swing in the miss for me,

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you know, strikes out when he
almost twenty five percent of the time this

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year. And yeah, he's tiny, but I actually love the way he

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plays, like he flies around the
yard. He hits a lot of line

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drives, stole twenty six bags.
He was someone that I also almost picked,

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but ultimately I'm not sure that the
plate skills are actually as good as

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they've been so far, Like with
you know, limited impact, I'm not

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sure he's going to walk thirteen percent
of the time as he goes up.

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I think it's it'd be more like
average to below there. And he just

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doesn't have another carrying tool to really
carry him, I don't think. But

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he I loved watching him play.
He was somebody that was really fun.

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I figured you would because he was
short. Okay, to actually get to

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our pick here, I think we're
are we selecting the same guy? We

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are? We are? So I'll
let you talk about him because I have

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like three other guys. I also
wanted to mention, I'm telling you about

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the White Sox. Al Right,
okay, all right, Well I was

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gonna go with Brooks Baldwin, who
was a what twenty twenty two to twelfth

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round pick out of North Carolina?
What is it Wilmington? Is that right?

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He's played third base, shortstop,
center field, second base, first

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base, but then when he was
promoted to Hya, he strictly played shortstop.

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I don't know. Watching him,
he felt like more of a second

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day draft sort of talent to me
than a third day Yeah. Probably more

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of like a line drive hitter and
does hit some home runs. He had

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fifteen home runs, but you know
they're more of like line drives that leave

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the part struck out twenty one points
seven percent of the time, walked to

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ten point six percent of the time. He slugged four sixty. I don't

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know. There's just like a little
mix of hit and pop here that I

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think could play. This was interesting
to me, Matt, you and I

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wanted to ask you about the park
factors here. And I don't know if

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you looked at this, but he
had some pretty drastic home and away splits

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this year. He was awful away. I thought that was kind of interesting.

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It is interesting, but I don't
think Winston Salem is a big park

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factor one way or another. Okay, all right, the look of him

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from the left side there. I
don't know if you noticed this, and

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we had talked about this a little
bit, but I noticed that he dips

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his head in his swing often.
I don't know if that's something real concerning

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or not, but I know that
we talked about not wanting to see that.

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But I don't know. Overall,
I just kind of felt this was

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maybe my best option, and I
think he does have a shot to be

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maybe sort of like a utility type
for that organization. I think he is

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fairly decent defensively. He'll be in
the uppers as a I don't know what

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twenty three year old this season I'm
guessing, and I don't know. I

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think he's liable of putting up some
numbers that would get Dynasty owners' attention.

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He stole twenty two bases. I
think he can run a little bit.

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I don't know, Matt, what
do you think he might have been a

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little bit more optimistic? I don't
know. I agree with everything that you

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said. He isn't someone that I
like. He wasn't on my list to

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draft in our hit or draft.
I think that he is sort of a

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limited ceiling guy, but I liked
that he did a lot of things pretty

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well. You know, he is
athletic. I do think he can play

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multiple positions. He strikes out below
average, a blow average amount, walks

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a slightly above average amount, has
some power, you know, it's probably

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a fifty, but he also probably
has a fifty or fifty five speed and

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athleticism, and I just like that
combination of things that it gives him a

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little something to fall back on.
He played some short this year, he

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played some third, he played some
outfield. Like I don't think a big

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league regular, but I do think
he's a guy that makes the big leagues

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because of that utility kind of profile. That's what that's what kind of stood

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out to me about him is that
you know, in two or three years,

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he's going to be twenty five,
but he's going to be on somebody's

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twenty five man roster because he can
do a little bit of a lot of

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stuff. And I agree that he
was the best of the kind of B

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siding options for this team this year, and so I fully co signed this

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was my pick as well, but
I wanted to touch on at least it

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feels to me too. Sorry,
it feels to me too like the White

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Sox have forever like struggled to get
some left handed bats in their lineup too,

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so him being a left he might
might benefit him a little bit in

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that system. He's a switch hitter, right, Yeah, he's a switcher.

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Yeah. Yeah, he's better as
a lefty though. Yeah, but

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I did like this right handed swing
too, you know, I thought that

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his I noticed that sort of dip
that you were talking about on the left

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and on the right hand side it's
sort of a smoother but I think a

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little more line drive, contact oriented
swing. So it's yeah, he's good.

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I think he's an interesting kind of
kind of guy who might fill out

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a roster on a decent team.
I liked Baldwin as well. This is

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Brooks, not not Drake Brooks,
not related though I don't think, I

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do not think they are related.
No, I wanted to touch on Sean

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Gusenberg. You know, he is
a speed over power guy, but again,

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one of those interesting ones that has
played first base, second base,

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left field, so they've moved him
around to see see what he has.

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Everything looked a tick below average to
me. So whereas like Baldwin, I

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thought maybe was like average to maybe
a touch above on a couple of things,

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Gusenberg was like maybe a slightly above
average on speed, but below average

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on hit and power and everything.
So it didn't quite add up to me.

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But I thought was an interesting guy, especially with some of the diversity

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and skill set. I think the
guy that I was most excited about this

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is somebody that I only saw what
Twitter clips of. So here's here's someone

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that I cannot wait to get to
full season ball next year. Javier mcgoyon

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only played in the DSL last year, but he was seventeen, so really

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young. I don't think he had
a big signing bonus in their last year's

408
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:23.599
J two class. His line was
one of my favorite, like one of

409
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the best in the DSL last year, forty seven games. He hit three

410
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.920
p fifteen four seventeen five eighty two, ten homers, eleven steals, struck

411
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.079
out fourteen percent of the time,
walked thirteen point six percent of the time.

412
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.160
Like again, it's the DSL.
A lot of these numbers don't mean

413
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:47.400
anything, but I liked that he
did that kind of a line and just

414
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had a three twenty three bab it
to me, that says like, a

415
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.079
he's young for the level, even
for the DSL. If you're seventeen in

416
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.000
performing, it's way better, far
more predictive than if you're nineteen and you

417
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do the same line. So I
liked that and the way that he got

418
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.359
to it, I think is really
interesting. So he's a name for me

419
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.599
that is like, if I need
someone to really speculate on at the very

420
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.759
back end of a roster, like
mogoy On's a guy that I might take

421
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the later rounds of any deeper FYPD
this year because if there is some some

422
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.680
signal to that line, then this
is the kind of guy that might come

423
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to the Complex or to full season
ball and really show out and become one

424
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.319
of those guys that everyone gets super
hyped on. So Mogoian, I only

425
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.680
saw just a couple of clips of
him online, but I think he's really

426
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:38.720
interesting. Okay, and they they
can't trade him for James Shields anymore.

427
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:45.000
That's good. I'm not saying he's
going to be to tease, but he

428
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he is interesting. Man. I
don't you have a fan of the of

429
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.960
the Rakies and the White Sax.
It's not it's not glorious. And there's

430
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.359
a lot of Rackies jokes, but
turn them into White Sox jokes. They're

431
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:03.160
better. Sucks jokes are better,
all right, Matt, Let's go to

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00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.599
the Mistake by the Lake Cleveland.
We've had a little success here, I

433
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.839
think, at least with some bats. Jose Tania has made the big leagues.

434
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.079
He was a pick a few years
ago. John Kenzie, Noel,

435
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.880
you're kind of a fan, aren't
you. I am. He's running out

436
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.000
of time to put it together,
but I've been a fan of his for

437
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.839
a while. He's only like twenty
two years old though, right, I

438
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.799
know, but it's a long minor
league history of striking out too much and

439
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.640
showing power but not quite getting it
to enough. And I don't know,

440
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.680
we'll see. I thought it was
kind of interesting he hit twenty seven home

441
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.880
runs in Triple A this year and
that was good for a four to twenty

442
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.319
slug. But I think that was
a success though. I definitely traded those

443
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.160
shares away. In twenty twenty two, I went with kind of reluctantly,

444
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.720
Christian Cairo. I saw him playing. He hit two ninety in the AFL

445
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.160
this year, I don't hold out
a bunch of major league hope for him,

446
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.079
but I don't I don't think that
that's over with. He's only twenty

447
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.880
two years old. I don't know. I thought that was kind of interesting.

448
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.920
Last year I went with Aaron Davenport
as my pitcher, who I had

449
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:15.359
liked as a deep, sleeping pitching
prospect from his draft, and he repeated

450
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.759
high A and I don't think anything
has really changed or progressed there. But

451
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.839
I do think he might still have
a chance as a reliever with his fastball

452
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:30.480
curveball combination. But this season I
happened to be a little bit excited about

453
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.440
the arm selection. I'm gonna go
with Jackson Humphries, who was a twenty

454
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.359
twenty two to eighth round pick out
of North Carolina. North Carolina, a

455
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.640
prep pick. I think he's currently
nineteen years old. If I'm not mistaken,

456
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.920
Lefty, this isn't like a nothing
prep prospect here. He was eighteenth

457
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.960
ranked lefty in Perfect Game twenty twenty
two and was gaining some momentum as a

458
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.839
draft was nearing. He's listed at
six one, two hundred pounds, but

459
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.559
he seems a little bit tall to
me than that. Interested that Cleveland who

460
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.839
does interest in things with pitchers,
I think sought him out and paid him

461
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.960
six hundred k. Humphreys is starting
to hit some top thirty lists, I

462
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:14.680
do believe, yet there's still that
much dynasty popularity. And I very much

463
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.880
liked the minimal, minimal looks on
the archives this last year. After thirty

464
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.359
four rookie ball innings, he got
in six A ball starts in August and

465
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.960
September. I watched, I believe
I watched all of those four of those.

466
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.160
I thought he looked. He looks
pretty good. His fastball get up

467
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.920
to the mid nineties. He's got
the full slider, curveball, change starter

468
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.599
toolkit. I think he may have
been throwing a cutter too. On occasion.

469
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.000
It looked to me like there were
some fastballs that were kind of going

470
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.039
two different ways. And you know, being a Cleveland guy, I do

471
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:52.400
think that there is some plus in
the secondary offerings. All four of his

472
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.319
pitches flashed as with pitches see him
getting strikeouts on all four of those offerings.

473
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.200
As a lefty, we did get
a Fayetteville look that was pretty interesting.

474
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.440
I know it's not the greatest angle
for a lefty, but it's much

475
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.039
nicer than a lot of a lot
of the angles you get down there to

476
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.960
watch a lefty. Your boy Lofton
went zero for two against him, but

477
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.400
he did take him to the warning
track and that was that was one of

478
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.119
the rare hard hit balls. His
era wasn't that great. And those six

479
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.039
starts five point three two, he
had a one point one eight wh he

480
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:29.599
struck out twenty four and what twenty
four innings twenty three and two thirds he

481
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.559
walked. I don't have total walks, but those three point zero four per

482
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.679
nine. Like I said, he
did give up a couple of home runs

483
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.760
in those six starts, I believe
didn't seem to get squared up too much.

484
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:44.920
And you know was was pitching,
was trying to locate in sequence in

485
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.519
different ways, different parts of the
plate, and overall I think just a

486
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:53.320
good looking, real solid teenage pitching
prospect. And that was definitely good enough

487
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.559
for me to go with him with
the with the Cleveland team. Here interesting

488
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:06.400
I and am almost allergic to pitching
prospects that are that young. Like I

489
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.119
just think the bus rate is so
high and it's so hard. It's just

490
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:16.199
so rare for them to keep their
stuff and command and add to it.

491
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.519
It's like, it's one of the
reasons why I think I care a lot

492
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.480
less about age to level for pictures
than I do for hitters. So this

493
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.280
is a guy I didn't watch at
all, so like, it sounds intriguing,

494
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:32.079
although I'm curious about the walks,
maybe like that, if you're already

495
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.119
showing some walk signs, is that
going to persist. It's not awful,

496
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.119
but it's just wondering if that's gonna
stick around. But yeah, go and

497
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:47.079
teenage pictures. There's a combo of
stuff and command here that I think could

498
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.000
definitely jump up in that system relatively
soon. And yes, I agree,

499
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.599
young pictures are very tough. Old
pictures can be very tough too. But

500
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.079
the only other guy that I really
was watching her into is Ross Carver again,

501
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.039
who've kind of been into for a
few years now. Was a I

502
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.760
don't know, like an eighteenth round
draft pick of the Diamondbacks and then traded

503
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.119
him I don't know what the trade
was to Cleveland. He was a Kyle

504
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.800
ofge arm that I thought had some
really good looking secondaries and was kind of

505
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.679
hoping that Cleveland would help him develop
the fastball a little bit more like they've

506
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.920
done with a lot of their arms, and I don't know if that's really

507
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.400
happened with him. He did have
a decent I think AFL, but Ross

508
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.480
Carver was was. It was really
just kind of down those two guys for

509
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:35.079
me. Yeah, this system was
harder on the pitching side. Kind of

510
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.679
had to bend our roster limit rules
to really find someone that I thought was

511
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:45.440
worth talking about. I mean,
watched a couple of guys who might be

512
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.760
relievers in Zach Jacob and Franco Aliman, I think probable relievers, but I

513
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.760
just couldn't get super excited about either
one. Although Franco Alaman did have a

514
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.679
pretty good year up in Double A
as a reliever of thirty six percent strikeout

515
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.079
rate seven point seven percent. That's
pretty good and it seems like he's going

516
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.559
to make the bigs as a reliever, but everybody else was higher on the

517
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.159
ownership percentage five percent for Parker Messic
and I think, you know, I

518
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.119
love Joey Cantillo. I think he's
someone who's has had that command. And

519
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.440
then the stuff ticked up and was
super interesting and then kind of lost some

520
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.119
of his command, and I'm a
little bit less interested these days, Like

521
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.840
I actually trade him a couple of
times this year, But I still think

522
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.360
there's something there. He's kind of
that b side archetype of when nobody was

523
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.159
on him when he threw eighty nine, but he was striking everybody out and

524
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.599
wasn't walking anybody, ated a little
bit of a vlow And now everyone's like,

525
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.599
oh, he might be a real
guy, and now he's walking everybody,

526
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.159
and I'm less interested. I like
to joke around that I'll take a

527
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:45.360
prep piccher in a first year player
draft, unlike Olympic years, like every

528
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.360
four years or so, I'll take
one. He was one that I actually

529
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.079
took in a few leaks, but
I think I have thus since traded him

530
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.320
everywhere. Yeah, Yeah, he's
someone I still think I have a share

531
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.960
too in a couple of deep leagues. But and I think there's a lot

532
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.840
to like there. Hoping the guy
that I'm gonna take here follows a somewhat

533
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.639
similar path, because you know Cantillo, I think when I pulled it was

534
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.239
like at fifteen percent, and I
think that's likely to rise again this year

535
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.840
as he gets pretty close to making
the major leagues. Wouldn't be surprised if

536
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.079
we see him in the BIGS next
year. The guy I'm going to take

537
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:22.320
his call is named Will Dion.
You would watch one pitch? I don't

538
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.840
know, have you watched have you
watched any of Dion? So like you

539
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.079
see you see him throw one pitch? And who does Who's he trying to

540
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.039
be? Oh? I don't know. I don't have the tableau of him

541
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.599
on the mound hit in my head. Here he is a spitting image of

542
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:43.559
Clayton Kershaw too, yeah, down
to the pause in the middle of mister

543
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.280
Parker does that too, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, the whole thing.

544
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:52.400
You know, Lefty drop and drive, very similar action to Kershaw, but

545
00:38:53.079 --> 00:39:00.440
throws his fastball tops out at eighty
nine like what late career Kershaw uh fastball

546
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:06.679
top tat at not the mid nineties
plus plus pitch that Kershaw had, So

547
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.760
that I think that's where people aren't
really on him. He's three percent fan

548
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.719
tracks ownership, so it's still not
that far off our usual zeros in one

549
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.079
percent. He's not on a lot
of lists. I think he made Clegg's

550
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.280
Top five hundred, but just barely
in the very very back end. But

551
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:28.440
I like what he's done. You
know, even for five nine soft toss

552
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.320
and lefty, he spins that fastball
so that he gets swifts on it at

553
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.440
the top of the zone and pop
gets a lot of pop ups. He's

554
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.960
got a good curveball that he has
pretty good feel for, and a slider

555
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.320
and a change and he'll throw all
of them. So you know, he

556
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.639
has four pitches and he pitches off
all of them. So I really like

557
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.360
this kind of pitcher, Like he
sounds kind of similar to some of the

558
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.159
leftis that I've taken him so far
in our drafts and in some of the

559
00:39:54.159 --> 00:40:00.400
other organizations that we've done, And
he really ended the year on quite heater.

560
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.360
You know, his last eighteen and
two thirds innings pitch he had twenty

561
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.920
six strikeouts, two walks, and
gave up two runs in that stretch.

562
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:12.480
So that was at double A.
Like he's at near He's knocking on the

563
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.440
door at this point. And the
only couple of reports that I had seen

564
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.679
on him all talked about how his
fastball isn't plus, like it's a thirty

565
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:25.280
five fastball. And I know that
you have some problems with the grades on

566
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.679
pitches. Grades generally but especially grades
on pitchers. And he's the kind of

567
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.679
guy that I agree with you,
Like you're really telling me that this is

568
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:39.800
a thirty five, so a standard
deviation and a half below major league average,

569
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:47.199
even though it clearly has plus spin
and is getting wfs at double A.

570
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.159
And he's left handed, and he
has kind of a flat approach angle

571
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.960
with the kind of drop and drive
and where his release point is. Like

572
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.519
to me, I don't have the
stat cast data on these to see exactly

573
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.480
his extension pitch and plot it against
all the others, But to me,

574
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.880
the deception on this pitch causes that
fastball that there, it's no doubt Bigley

575
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.800
gaverage to me, like maybe a
tick below. Maybe it's a forty five,

576
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.599
but it seems like a fifty to
me, like a lefty that can

577
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.880
throw it like that, Like it
seems like there's enough other things that cause

578
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.159
it to play up. It just
seems like it's getting judged based solely on

579
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.440
its velocity, when I think we're
beyond that these days in saying there's a

580
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.599
lot of things about a fastball,
about any pitch that help it play up

581
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.719
or down based on the pitch characteristics, But we still talk about the pitches,

582
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:43.119
I think mostly from their velocity.
I end up picking Dionne because I

583
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.920
wanted to talk a little bit about
that, and his performance up to this

584
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.039
point has been really, really good. I think we're going to see him

585
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.599
probably make it to Triple A next
year, and we'll see if the fastball

586
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.119
ticks up again. I'm not going
to bet on it, both because he's

587
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.360
particularly small. He also looks kind
of maxed out. He's twenty three.

588
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.519
You think it's gonna be twenty four
next year. It's hard to see that

589
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.559
kind of velo getting added for him. But what I've seen already looks like

590
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.960
a pretty high probability back into the
big league starter. So that that's a

591
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.119
guy that has used in deep leagues, I think I'm definitely guilty, even

592
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.519
someone who doesn't put a ton on
velocity, a ton of weight on velocity,

593
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:25.280
like maybe your average fantasy player,
and guilty of sort of riding him

594
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.320
off because of the velocity. I
mean, maybe I need to look at

595
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.760
the fastball a little bit more.
But here's one thing that is tough though,

596
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.000
Matt with B siding, is like, if we're just solely trying to

597
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.280
pick up some arms that we want
to flip or try to get a trade

598
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.760
chip out of. It's just really
tough to get people interested in a guy

599
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.639
who throws out the eighties and get
any value at the trade table. No,

600
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.800
I agree with you. I agree
with you, but I will say

601
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:57.119
that rather than this guy being that
kind where I think the stock is going

602
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.719
to go up, to use the
stupid stock market terms that we see people

603
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.639
talk about all the time, I
actually think that he's a guy who you

604
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:09.440
hold in a thirty teen points league
until he makes the back of the Cleveland

605
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:14.760
rotation in two years, and then
you've got one hundred and twenty innings of

606
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:19.199
depth that was absolutely free that nobody
had, you know. So that's that's

607
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.639
what I think. He just ends
up sticking to the team and being useful

608
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.480
too, especially in Yeah, that's
what I mean. That's what I mean.

609
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.239
It's like, you wait, you
hold on to him for two years

610
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.440
and he's going to make the majors
and he's going to be like, have

611
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.320
a season like Bryce Elder, did
you know what I mean? Where it's

612
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.800
like people weren't really on him because
he doesn't throw hard, and then he's

613
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.719
turned in a season and a half
of like plus production. Right. Yeah,

614
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.360
so I might have like one hundred
percent ownership of Tommy Henry right now.

615
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.280
Yeah, now that they're like the
same picture or anything like that.

616
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.760
But another guy that I liked,
and I think he's probably overperformed most people's

617
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.400
expectations so far in the majors,
but he's sticking around and helping me because

618
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.280
he wasn't he wasn't getting anything on
the trade table. I know that,

619
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:05.239
Yeah, and I gut like that
for me was Tommy Romero from a couple

620
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.760
of years ago. And this is
not a success story, right, Like

621
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.360
he was coming up in the Tampa
organization, had one of those super high

622
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.480
spin fastballs, but he was alridy
that topped down at like ninety one one

623
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.679
trick. It was like he threw
eighty percent fastballs and still got people out.

624
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.039
But he never really could develop his
other pitches. And so he's almost

625
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.119
he's almost the poster child for me
of what I don't like about the Rays

626
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.280
pitching development because they really had him
lean into his plus pitch. Yeah,

627
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.599
he didn't learn how to do anything
else. Yeah, it's just like they

628
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.039
like I don't know, like a
plastic piece like Okay, We're just gonna

629
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.000
get you, get you through and
get your useful as fast as we can,

630
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:46.320
and this is your weapon, and
rinse and repeat. We'll get some

631
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:52.840
more, all right. The Cleveland
Guardians minor League, that situation, the

632
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.719
land of the noodle Bath. I
don't know, Matt, this level of

633
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.159
raster. Yep, there wasn't a
whole lot that I was super into.

634
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:08.679
There's Angel Genoa, Jake Fox,
Jose Devers, Luis Durango were some hitters

635
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:14.480
that I watched a decent chunk of
very much kind of the Cleveland sort of

636
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.960
contact hopepols. I think I don't
know how much juice is in all of

637
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.960
those bats. They're all still very
young, nineteen twenty years old. I

638
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.320
think you're going to talk about one
of those, right, Matt. I'm

639
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.880
just kind of sticking sticking with a
guy that I've written about a little bit

640
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:34.280
and I have enjoyed watching at the
plate and in the field. And that's

641
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.079
day On Freees, who's I think
twenty one maybe twenty two years old now,

642
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.440
Colombian who is at hy A plays
third base and around the infield.

643
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.519
But I saw him make some pretty
nice plays at third base. I think

644
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.079
that might be might be the best
fit for him. But in three hundred

645
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.400
and ninety seven plate appearances, he
hit eleven home runs, stole eight bases.

646
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:59.519
Nothing super crazy there, hit two
sixty three point fifty six on base

647
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.480
twenty six slug struck out twenty percent
of the time, walked thirteen percent of

648
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:08.159
the time. He's a switch hitter. I like his sort of all fields

649
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:13.440
approach, line drive. I think
he mechanically looks nice at the plate,

650
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.519
stays real still, I think from
both sides, not super exciting, but

651
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.800
I think he is a guy who
has a chance. He is Rule five

652
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.519
eligible. I don't see that happening. But again, what do I know

653
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.880
about those things he was left unprotected? I don't know. I've got a

654
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:32.280
thing for a little Columbian bats who
like to let the ball travel and try

655
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.480
to do some damage going the other
way. I guess Jordan Diaz as well.

656
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.679
But I've liked the look of Freees
for a few seasons now, and

657
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.280
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna stick
with that. Yeah, I like free

658
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.079
S too. Like you said,
he's a fun player. That profile is

659
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:52.719
interesting, and he has done enough
I think to remain worth a follow for

660
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.679
sure. I feel like his home
run total should have been better than eleven.

661
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.599
He's got some pop in there,
but we'll see. Maybe maybe he

662
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.960
just needs to hit out in front
more to realize that power, like you

663
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.119
like to say in that but that's
right. But I think he's I think

664
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:12.280
he's a bat that could, you
know, put together real professional abs and

665
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.920
have a shot maybe fit in nicely
with with some of those high contact guys

666
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:22.960
that they are after. Yeah,
that is definitely the Cleveland organization as a

667
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:27.239
whole. You know, we're referencing
before he came on Jeff Ponce and Dylan

668
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:31.559
White's workover at Baseball America about the
or rankings. Cleveland has the type.

669
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.119
They don't hit a lot of homers. They make a ton of contact both

670
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.280
in the zone. I don't think
they chase very much, or maybe they

671
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:42.760
were mid in chase, but they
just made a ton of contact. They

672
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.320
were just like super aggressive with the
bat to ball control. And you see

673
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:52.880
a ton of guys like that in
their organization. Tana Rocchio, Brito Devers,

674
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.719
Free Us. It's everywhere, man, It's yeah. Even they're popping

675
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.880
guys in de Laughter and Manzarto before, guys that have like real power.

676
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:05.159
They don't strike out very much,
like there's a lot of contact in both

677
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.840
their bats. Yeah, and Cleveland's
actually been an interesting order for me.

678
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.320
I've liked a lot of their guys
through the years. I was a big

679
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.960
George Valera guy the last couple of
years, and he had a really disappointing

680
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.800
year. And as you mentioned John
Kenzie Noel he's another one that I really

681
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.000
like, but he's been a little
disappointing the past year and a half or

682
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:27.760
so. And those are there like
two power only bats. You know,

683
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.199
everybody else is like contact first,
power second, or maybe never. The

684
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:37.280
guy that is my B side is
a guy took in the in our hit

685
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.039
or draft in CJ. Kafis,
who is like, yeah, I forget

686
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.079
about that. Sorry, yeah,
first base, left field guy who just

687
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:51.719
had one of the best pro debuts
of anybody, like literally including Wyatt Langford,

688
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.440
like his was almost as good as
that, but small sample. It

689
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.440
is like seventy seven played appearances or
something, and he hit a bunch of

690
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.360
homers, didn't strike out, walked, he did all the things that I

691
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:06.000
liked, and I just I was
like, I'm stamping him. He's he's

692
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:07.719
my FYPD guy. I won't be
surprised if I end up with him in

693
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.280
a bunch of places, just because
I'm going to reach first consensus on him.

694
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.880
But I did like the look of
a few other guys, you know.

695
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.360
Jose Devers is one you mentioned as
well that he's a skinny, twitchy

696
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.760
athlete. I think he plays a
good defense and that makes it likely he's

697
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.679
going to stick on the dirt.
There's not a lot of power here,

698
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.639
and there's less contact than some of
their other guys that are a little better.

699
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:36.199
You know, He's not Rokio who's
running a twelve percent strikeout rate.

700
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.119
It's a little higher than that,
you know, twenty percent at a ball,

701
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.199
and so that's probably going to tick
up to be a bit too much,

702
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:43.440
and he probably doesn't have the power. But he is another one that

703
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.840
I liked the defense, and he
might be one that carves out a bench

704
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.519
bat role at some point down the
line. And then I'm a big fan

705
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.559
of cal Manzarto, you know,
went to my alma mater, saw him

706
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:59.639
live a few times, and think
that he is despite his sub par year

707
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.880
this year, this is a plus
bat with power and contact and he's a

708
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.800
fun kind of hitter who he's going
to be someone who I bet when we

709
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.760
see him in the majors, makes
a lot of contact, doesn't strike out

710
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.199
very much. His exit velocities,
I think are going to be really tightly

711
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:21.679
packed. His top end exit velocities
are not. Plus they're not They're not

712
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.519
really really off the charts or anything. He hits all the balls that he

713
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:29.360
hits hard, and he hits them
at good launch angles. And he's just

714
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.039
a fun hitter, right. He's
like one of those guys that he's figured

715
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.480
out his body and his swing.
And I'm a big fan. So that's

716
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.840
the pretty boy side of things.
But Yeah, for me, I'm gonna

717
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.880
stick on Capus and dream on that
seventy seven plate appearances, and I think

718
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.239
he might be the best draftee out
of Miami out of University of Miami this

719
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:52.440
past year, which we'll we'll talk
about later on. I think because couple

720
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.760
guys drafted, we've brought up a
few former Hurricanes we have this offseason,

721
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:06.599
this exercise here the Detroit Tigers.
I think we've had some b side success

722
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:12.719
stories here. Andre Lipschiz has made
the big leagues, justin Henry molloy has

723
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:17.400
really become a quite popular prospect who's
knocking on the door. I think we

724
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.719
did pretty well with our pitcher last
season and Kyder Montero. Do you any

725
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.079
do you have any thoughts on Montero? Are you thank you? Yeah,

726
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.880
he's a major league starter. I
think he's going to be a major league

727
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.519
starter. I'm not sure if he's
going to be an impact major league starter

728
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:36.840
yet, but I like the tools
and what he's done so far. I'm

729
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.840
a fan last year's bat. I
went like, if we would have had

730
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:44.800
a draft, I might have I
might have picked Manuel Sequera, who did

731
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.800
not have a very great season,
but in part there was a lot of

732
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.199
injury stints. He's still quite very
young, twenty years old. I believe

733
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.920
I'd like to see him get out
of a ball and stay healthy. But

734
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.280
there's a bat there with some power
who's up till this season, had a

735
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.639
pretty success well pro career, did
well in rookie ball and his first stint

736
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:07.320
today ball. My pitcher this year
is going to be I'm gonna say,

737
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.239
for the first year player draft.
I admittedly wasn't really in love with many

738
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.920
arms here at this level. So
with that being said, you got an

739
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:20.119
arm for us with the tiers.
Yeah, I mean, I'm with you.

740
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.880
I think the arms were a little
bit trickier. Looked at a couple

741
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:31.519
of relievers in Andrew Magno and Tyler
Madison. Magno he was okay, a

742
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.880
little too wild for me ultimately even
to be like, oh, this is

743
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.440
a big league believer. But Tyler
Madison, I think that's guys, that's

744
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:46.559
Mattison with two teas is going to
be a ladening reliever. I think he's

745
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.840
pretty good. You know, the
stuff is power ninety five to eight,

746
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:57.800
looks like good ride. The slider
is his secondary pitch, and it's good.

747
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.199
I mean it's firm eighty six to
nine. I think I saw some

748
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:05.559
eighty nine's with good bite, and
he gets a lot of swings and misses

749
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.960
with that curveball in the load of
mid eighties. Like it's pretty firm and

750
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.039
has good movement with his curveball.
He struck out almost thirty eight percent of

751
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.440
batters this year, a little bit
on the wild side, which I think

752
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.320
is why he's a reliever with eleven
point seven walks. But this, to

753
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:28.840
me, he just screams back end
reliever and a pretty high probability one at

754
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.880
that. So Tyler Madison I think
is one to keep an eye on,

755
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.719
like when they put him in the
pen this year next, I don't know

756
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.119
he's going to be a guy who
might get some saves, like he's that

757
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:44.000
good, and I just don't think
the Tiger's pen is anything you're write home

758
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:49.440
about. My pick is is Brent
Herder, who I'm sure you've come across

759
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.199
before. I don't think I've watched
any Herder. Okay, yeah, he's

760
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:58.400
been around for a while. It's
a twenty twenty one seventh rounder, so

761
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.960
you know, it's not like high
pro, like high profile or anything.

762
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:07.480
But he's a huge dude, six
six every bit of two fifty maybe even

763
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.239
a little more still even with that
size, still sort of a pitch ability

764
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.960
kind of lefty. Tops out at
ninety three, but most of his fastballs

765
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:21.199
are two seamers and the ninety one
eighty nine to ninety one range. Didn't

766
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.800
love all of the secondaries like this
is probably why I kind of hemmed it

767
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.639
hon and almost picked a reliever for
this. He's got a sweeper that has

768
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.519
good action, like it gets big
movement, but it got fewer whips than

769
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.679
I thought it should. Just watching
it visually his other pitches. You know,

770
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.079
he mixes in a change to right
eas and has a curveball that'll he'll

771
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.280
go to occasionally. Something about the
whole profile just like aesthetically turned me off.

772
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:50.360
I don't know it was. It
was a lot of things that normally

773
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.920
I like, and the way he
put them together. I don't know whether

774
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.079
I just saw a few bad starts
or what, but it seemed like I

775
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.599
just was trying to round down on
everything, like, yeah, he's got

776
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.519
a ninety two to ninety three mile
an hour fastball, but it's objectively worse

777
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.199
than Dion's eighty nine mile an hour
fastball. You know, he's got a

778
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:13.800
big sweeper. But it seemed like
everybody was seeing it pretty well. Numbers

779
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.679
on the year were solid, especially
most of it. Spent most of the

780
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:21.559
year at double A and struck out
ten per nine two and a half walks

781
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.960
per nine. Like I like both
those things good fit. It seems like

782
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:29.920
when he's on he's really quite good, but he'll have times where he loses

783
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.840
it. So Brent Herder is a
guy. Steamer actually really likes him,

784
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.239
projects him for a four to nine
fifth next year. Based on what he

785
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.960
did so far, which kind of
surprised me just watching him. That's really

786
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.400
good. So I don't know whether
there's some park factor stuff worked in there

787
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.639
to make his admittedly pretty good double
A line look even better. Yeah,

788
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.199
it's also saying this is a seven
strikeout per nine guy, which that's what

789
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.719
it kind of feels like to me. He's struck guys out at a producing

790
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.599
clip so far. I think he's
sort of over were performed in that aspect

791
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.480
of it, and I think he's
more like a seven or eight strike up

792
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.519
per nine kind of guy. But
he does get his grundballs, and I

793
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.280
think Steamer likes that and that'll help
him play up. So to me,

794
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.480
Herder seems like a decent bet to
make the back end of a bad rotation.

795
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.880
So Brent Hurt is my pick.
I'm not thrilled with it, but

796
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:23.599
there might be something there. My
good buddy Matt Vogel, who I stole

797
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:28.800
the phrase B side from B Side
Prospects, I was just looking at one

798
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.760
of his trades that he made in
one of our leagues, and Herder was

799
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:36.519
was part of it. It all
very much checks out now, though,

800
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:42.440
because Vogel is very much a like
Select four of the Fats and Nintendo Ice

801
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.199
hockey sort of guy. He likes
the Biggs, So that's funny to me.

802
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:53.159
Brent Herder and James Gonzalez can go
start an offensive line together, you

803
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.480
know, with a bunch of my
pitchers are they're they're offensive lineman sized.

804
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.920
Totally met Big coming back. We're
gonna see more bigs in the bigs.

805
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.480
I think kind of a healthy group
of interesting bats here, kind of all

806
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:12.119
around the high A level. I
think for me, maybe some of them

807
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.400
started to get some double a run. But South Stevenson, when he sold

808
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.559
seventy bases this year, I believe, yep, he was interesting. I

809
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:24.280
just I don't know about much juice
in the bat there, but a guy

810
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.760
like that that can be useful to
a major league team. Now, I

811
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:34.480
don't know he was at one percent, but jess Way Brisanio, is that

812
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.559
how you say it? Yeah?
I think or Bano I'm not sure,

813
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.280
but yeah, he's someone I think
he's really interesting. Yeah, he's a

814
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:45.239
young, like eighteen year old who
has got some a ball run. I

815
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.800
don't know. I just I just
felt like he was much more popular than

816
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.119
that. But maybe maybe I was
wrong there, but young Venezuela and catcher.

817
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.559
I think it's got some got some
juice in the bat. I watched

818
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.440
some of this. Uh, Clayton
Campbell was from New Zealand. He was

819
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:05.719
a little interesting to me. Teenager
and a ball. Some Chris Myers,

820
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.559
who was like a first base left
field he had a I think he had

821
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.960
a nice little season. All these
guys like Ops is like over eight hundred.

822
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.039
I watched some Brady Allen, I
watched some ben Mi Mulgarry. I

823
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:22.000
think that's how you say it.
I don't know any of those guys interest

824
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.440
you at all. Or Yeah,
this was happy hunting grounds. I think

825
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.760
for the side it was kind of
it was kind of unexpected to me.

826
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.039
But the list, the list got
a little bit longer than I thought it

827
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.639
would. Yeah, you've hit on
a bunch of the guys that I watched

828
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.599
and liked, and you know,
to go farther up, like wen Seal

829
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:45.039
Perez was definitely a B side type
guy before. He had a great year

830
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:46.559
last year and then got some run
at the major league level. This year.

831
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.119
He hasn't he hasn't made the bigs
yet. Oh he hasn't. Oh

832
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:53.239
that's right. You're right, got
up, but I think but I think

833
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:58.840
a chance is close. Brady Allen
was my pick, but I really wanted

834
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.719
to talk about just Bercaneo as well. Thought he's maybe the most interesting name.

835
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.239
I think we got a little bit
of his statcast data in the Florida

836
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.960
League in the FSL, and it
was really good, Like he hit the

837
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.440
ball really hard, didn't strike out
very much, and it's like it's a

838
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.800
nice combination of things that seeing him
next year at full season ball, he's

839
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.599
someone that high on my watch list, like he might be a really big

840
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.400
riser next year. But yeah,
no, I watched a bunch of those

841
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.599
guys and they, like you said, they all have something. And it's

842
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:35.840
funny you said that about hi A
for Detroit, it is actually one of

843
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.760
the very worst parks in all of
the minor leagues to hit. So that's

844
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:45.679
a place where if a guy is
performing well at West Michigan. Is that

845
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:51.280
right, West Michigan? Yeah,
yeah, Yeah, it's one of the

846
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.440
very worst ballparks in all of the
minor leagues. So if you're doing well

847
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.679
there, like you should maybe round
up and a bunch of these guys that

848
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.159
had success at there at high A
you want to round up, and it's

849
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:07.360
why I'm for my guy. I'm
choosing Brady Allen, who he made it

850
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.760
up to Double A and was awful
at Double A, but he was so

851
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:15.079
good at HIA that I was like, and what I saw of the air,

852
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.599
I was like, this looks like
maybe below average athlete, but it

853
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.119
seems like he's gonna play. Like
everything else about him, I really liked

854
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.079
strikes out, maybe a touch more
than I usually like, but I think

855
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:30.719
the power is real. Nineteen homers
across five hundred and thirty eight plate appearances,

856
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.400
two fifty three, three fifty three
for sixty on the year. I

857
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.480
was just like, this seems like
a big league baseball player to me.

858
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.360
He's got some flaws and showed even
showed a lot of him at double A,

859
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.679
and so he might be a guy
that kind of flames out, and

860
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.199
a couple of the other guys you
mentioned I think might have better individual tools.

861
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:52.039
But I liked the across the board
production from Brady Allen. Doing that

862
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.000
at HIGA even as a twenty two
to twenty three year old, was really,

863
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:59.079
really pretty impressive. The guy I'm
going to go with, Matt is

864
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.239
a guy that I saw hitting in
Allen a decent amount, And I have

865
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.960
kept a little bit of an Ion
since his college days, and that's Luke

866
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.679
Gold. I don't know if you
got into him at all. He was

867
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:15.599
a twenty twenty two to fifth round
pick out of Boston College. Now I

868
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:21.199
am no year long, hardcore follower
of amateur baseball these days, but there

869
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.679
are a few schools that, for
some reason I kind of just keep a

870
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:30.360
little bit eye of an Ion.
Boston College, Louisville now Iowa are a

871
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.800
few. But he had a couple
of really good seasons at BC his last

872
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.159
two years, had a big cape
in twenty twenty one. Now, the

873
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.480
first few months this season, I
would say, we're pretty unremarkable down in

874
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.079
Lake Linden, Florida, And there
was only a handful of broadcast games,

875
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.559
So I really I think he had
just kind of showed up for me when

876
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:52.119
I was just kind of doing a
generic look again for more aggressive hitters that

877
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.440
don't strike out a lot. He
had an injury and then I think he

878
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.239
started to get it going upon return. But he from June sixth to September

879
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:04.119
tenth, three hundred and one play
it appearances. He hit two eighty two

880
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.159
with a three seventy nine on base
percentage and slept forty six with ten home

881
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:13.920
runs, which you know isn't the
craziest line, but much improved in what

882
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.440
he was doing in a ball.
But the trajectory of his season seem to

883
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:22.159
stick through his promotion. There's nothing
alarming in the splits. He was batting

884
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.800
like leadoff or two hole when he
got to West Michigan. Now he's got

885
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:30.039
a bit of an odd setup,
kind of holds his hands really far back,

886
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:35.519
and he's got sort of an odd
delayed leg lift. It's just kind

887
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:38.159
of slow, and maybe there's like
this he lifts in, starts to bring

888
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:42.079
it towards the play and then kind
of starts to step away from the plate

889
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.199
maybe a little bit. It just
it just it's different, just looks a

890
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.280
little goofy, But I think it
seems to work for him. And if

891
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:53.159
you look at his batted ball profile, according to Fangrass, it says that

892
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:57.280
he pulled the ball forty percent of
the time, hit the ball up the

893
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.440
middle, thirty percent of the time, went opposite field thirty percent of the

894
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:07.239
time. That didn't really drive so
much with what I was watching seemed like

895
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:12.599
he was either hitting the ball up
the middle or pulling it. I think

896
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.320
his whole high a stint. I
don't know if he even had one hit,

897
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.800
one actual hit going opposite field.
There were maybe a few batted balls

898
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.079
that I had seen. And I
do think that he hits through the ball

899
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.639
like we like to talk about when
he hits the other way. Kind of

900
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.840
wondering if maybe he just found his
timing a little bit and sort of hitting

901
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.159
the ball out in front more and
having better results. I think he's got

902
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.400
a quick bat. Like I said, it's a little bit it's a little

903
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.920
bit odd, it's a little bit
different, but I think he's got quick

904
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.400
bat, quick hands. Did seem
to be on time, like I said,

905
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:47.079
later part of the season, with
that sort of odd step. Like

906
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:50.840
I said, he strikes me as
a fairly aggressive hitter, which I like,

907
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.639
looking to do damage. The k's
aren't high. What did he strike

908
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:58.679
out twenty percent of the time,
walk ten percent of the time, hits

909
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.440
almost seventy percent of his air And
I think that that really kind of checks

910
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.719
out with his swing, and you
know, mechanically speaking, I don't think

911
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:10.000
he really gets to all of his
power. I think there's sort of talk

912
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:15.199
about lefties, particularly like Asian lefties, who kind of start swinging towards first

913
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.159
plate, swinging and leaning towards first
base. He's right handed, and I

914
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.719
won't say he does it to third
base or that drastically or anything like that,

915
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.559
but there are times where he just
kind of seems to be swaying a

916
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:29.280
little bit. But AnyWho, I
do wonder if there's some more power in

917
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.559
his bat that could maybe get tapped
into, which would make him a little

918
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.320
bit more interesting. Did hit twelve
home runs, he stole twelve bases.

919
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:40.760
I don't think he is I don't
think he's fast. I don't know if

920
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.760
speed is going to be a big
part of his game. I don't even

921
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:47.159
know if he's like that great of
a second basement, which is where I

922
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:50.639
think he will be playing. But
the Tigers took a fifth round pick on

923
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:56.519
this dude who doesn't play that great
a defense because he's got a good bat.

924
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.760
I think I think he's got a
legit bat that can make the bigs

925
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:02.199
and he's kind of a fun guy
to watch with the plate. He I

926
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.679
don't know, Like I say,
there's some balls where you kind of think,

927
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.679
oh, he got all of that, and distance wise, they don't

928
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.519
really go quite as far as you
think, but lots of loud contact there

929
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.840
and I could see I could see
gold putting up some numbers this next season.

930
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.840
But he just turned twenty three and
he hasn't reached the uppers yet,

931
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:27.119
but I think that probably gonna be
coming pretty quick here. And if he

932
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:31.039
started popping more home runs and hitting
for decent average, I wouldn't be surprised

933
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.400
at all. Yeah, and he
was a member of those those West Michigan

934
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:40.440
teams that I thought were pretty interesting
few guys, I will say there was

935
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:45.000
a likely some interesting lineups that they
were throwing out there for a good minute

936
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:49.199
this year. One of my most
fun things that I watched this year doing

937
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:55.800
b siding was Seth Stevenson's ceiling bases. Yeah, Like you watch him,

938
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.840
you know he got seventy bags.
That's a lot, right. I think

939
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.119
he's super good bastealer and all that. You know how Trey Turner is really

940
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:08.800
smooth when he steal places, like
he's got that Trey Turner slide where nothing

941
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.119
in the world is gonna touch him
and he pops up and it's all smooth.

942
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:18.480
Seth Stevenson is the complete opposite.
He'll start his dive into second base

943
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.800
from like ten feet away from the
bag. I swear he's got almost two

944
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.920
feet of clearance between him and the
ground. And he's what like five seven

945
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.519
five eight, Like he's not a
big dude, but you see this,

946
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.880
like tiny guy just full superman dive
two feet in the air, ten roses

947
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:40.320
in the bag. Yeah, every
time, it's huh hilarious. Like maybe

948
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:45.760
it was so fun watching that guy
steal bases and the other guy in this

949
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.880
organization that I had really a fun
time watching. I don't think it's gonna

950
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:53.880
come together as an impact Big leaguer
And so he wasn't my pick, but

951
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:59.599
I just had to mention Eliezer Eliezer
Alonso. He's catcher, first base guy

952
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.440
have to double a this year seven
percent strikeout rate for him on the year,

953
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:09.199
so like the guy doesn't strike out
and that kind of outlier performance.

954
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:11.639
I'm always like, Okay, how
does he do that? Like is he

955
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.320
just super aggressive? What's what's his
deal? And he is very aggressive,

956
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:20.239
but he also has the most insane
to strike approach. Like coaches, little

957
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:27.880
league coaches everywhere want this guy on
video to show their team because I kid

958
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.920
you not, he chokes up like
five inches on the bat, gets even

959
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:36.599
closer to the plate, and his
swing completely changes as he tries to not

960
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.239
strike out. And he's pretty effective
at it, right like he you know,

961
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:44.679
seven percent is very very impressive.
He's no Caleb Durban, but that

962
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.400
is super impressive. And then has
the barrel control of foul off pitches off

963
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:53.840
the plate, anything in the zone
he's swinging. Yeah, so Alisa Alonso,

964
01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:57.920
he's worth watching just to see this
wild two strike approach that he has

965
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:01.519
and if he can catch some seths
even and steals like it's it's also very

966
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.840
enjoyable. To move on to the
twinkies here. We selected a lot of

967
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:11.119
twins in our drafts. We did
twins easy for me. Yeah yeah,

968
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:15.679
maybe maybe not a whole ton to
talk about tonight here, But last season

969
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.720
I went with an All American from
Texas State, Dalton Sheffield. Sheffield who

970
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:24.399
had gotten a little triple A run
after his draft, and I thought it

971
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.840
looked looked pretty good. He kind
of feels a little bit like one of

972
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:31.239
your guys, Matt, because he's
he's small, but he kind of bounced

973
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:35.680
around a ball, hy A and
double A this year. I think he

974
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:42.680
had some injuries as well. I'm
not overly excited about his twenty twenty four

975
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.640
of the strikeouts kind of got to
a point where I did not really foresee

976
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:49.960
you coming, but an interesting young
potential, I don't know, middle infield

977
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:55.000
or utility type that'll be in their
uppers this year, I think still.

978
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:59.560
Then I went with Jalen now In. Honestly I was a little bit more

979
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:04.199
excited about maybe it turned out,
but I had talked with Jeff Ponce about

980
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.439
him on this podcast last year,
and at that time, I think we

981
01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:11.279
were both like, Hey, he's
got a fastball slider combo that might work

982
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:15.600
well as a reliever, and I
think maybe I don't. They're probably still

983
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:17.800
going to give him a chance to
start. He got up to double A.

984
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.399
Not overly excited about about him,
and then, uh, well,

985
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:28.479
we drafted Ben Ross and jo Owner
Faljardo in our hitter drafts. The picture

986
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.960
draft, I went with C.
J. Culpepper, who I've kind of

987
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.560
been a fan of all this season
and kind of knew that that was going

988
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.560
to be my B side. So
I didn't really get into a whole lot

989
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:43.359
of Twins pictures. For this,
Matt I watched a few more. Pearson

990
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:45.880
Owl was my guy and if you
oh, yeah, I'm sorry, I

991
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:49.239
forgot and you picked them. Yeah
yeah. And he's the guy who just

992
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:57.319
doesn't walk anybody h and gets a
decent number of strikeouts. So Pearson person

993
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.680
Ol is super fun. I actually
saw him, I saw of his starts

994
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.800
this year, and I think he's
really fun. But I also liked Corey

995
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:08.520
Lewis a bit. He has some
in common with Pearson Ole, but strikes

996
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.199
out a few more guys and walks, you know, double the number of

997
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:15.399
guys. But I think he had
a really good year, but he's I

998
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.800
think a little more owned. I
really liked David Festa, but again that's

999
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.920
someone who is quite well owned.
And then Zebbie Matthews is another one that

1000
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:27.319
I wanted to highlight who he's got
again some traits to Ole and that he

1001
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.039
doesn't walk very many guys and gets
a decent number of strikeout. So this

1002
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:33.560
this was actually there were a number
of guys in the Minnesota Pitching Organization that

1003
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:39.239
I was like these they seem to
have an organizational approach that I like.

1004
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:42.680
So yeah, there's a few guys
in there that I liked. Part of

1005
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.279
me sort of not opening this box, so to speak, is I tend

1006
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.960
to get really sucked into a lot
of twins pitching for some reason. I

1007
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:54.920
like the high A, the double
A level, and I just didn't want

1008
01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:00.279
to look this year. There's a
way that goes, and there have been

1009
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.720
a lot of good, like sort
of B side types. I end up

1010
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:09.039
using a lot of them for trade
chips and like that, or or I

1011
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:13.920
really get super hopeful and then they
sort of fade out. But I think

1012
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.239
a lot of that was injury stuff
too. But yeah, Brent Hedrick was

1013
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.199
a guy for me that I like
last year. This time last year,

1014
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.960
he would have been my B side
pick. I'm very sure of it.

1015
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:26.520
I'm not sure if his ownership percentage
had ticked up yet, but he didn't

1016
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.239
have a very good year this year. I think some of it was injury,

1017
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.640
but I can't recall. But he's
knocking on the door. And he's

1018
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:35.439
another guy that I think is twenty
twenty two looked really good and so he

1019
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:39.840
was another one that I was super
interested in and then wasn't quite as good

1020
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:43.199
this year. So if they're one
of them, some good stuff. Yeah,

1021
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.920
they're one of these organizations that I
think gets knocked for pitching development,

1022
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.920
but I feel like they do a
pretty good job of at least collecting some

1023
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:54.920
some talented guys. It's kind of
rich, I think, But I don't

1024
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.199
know any other guy. Being a
White Sox fan, I hate talking like

1025
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.439
this about the twin but they've got
a lot of really good interesting bats too.

1026
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:09.079
Yeah, Wichita one won the Texas
League this year. That lineup is

1027
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:13.359
pretty interesting up and down for most
of the season. But I watched some

1028
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:17.359
alex I Sola, a catcher that
they had in the AFL, Andrew Cassetti,

1029
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.720
and then uh, even what Danny
di Andrade, I think is how

1030
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:26.640
you say he was like their high
brow. Wasn't he the big international free

1031
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.640
agent signing a few years ago?
Yeah, but I think he's yeah,

1032
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:32.520
yeah, I think he started doing
some things in a ball this year and

1033
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:38.520
was still is still was one percent. In September, they added jar catcher

1034
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:43.279
Jar Camargo to the forty man.
I watched a little bit of using triple

1035
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.520
A this year and then this guy, Uh, I watched up too,

1036
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.439
but he strikes out too much and
doesn't ever walk. I think that's like

1037
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:56.239
a backup catcher man. Yeah,
duel Or Tega is a young, well

1038
01:12:56.279 --> 01:13:01.720
well twenty two guys high Kyler Fedco. I saw an a ball Ricardo Olivar,

1039
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:06.600
Olivar who was left unprotected, which
I think makes a lot of sense.

1040
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.880
He's a little bit older, maybe
for Yah, maybe he's like twenty

1041
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.800
one, this not yet creative guy
in fan tracks, Rubel Cespids watched a

1042
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:19.159
little bit of him and a ball
and there wasn't much to see. I

1043
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.720
think maybe like one series, but
he was a little interesting. And then

1044
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.159
dude, their second round draft pick
from just a few years ago, twenty

1045
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:31.960
twenty two, Tanner shobl I had
him on some rosters, but he was

1046
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:38.600
only at two percent. He's a
good little batman. He had sixteen home

1047
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:43.479
runs, stole twelve bases. I
don't think he strikes out very much.

1048
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.399
For guy who was supposed to kind
of be a defensive utility type. I

1049
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.760
think he's got a little bit more
juice in the bat. Yeah, I

1050
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:54.880
don't know. Man, the Twins
they have it might not be a bunch

1051
01:13:54.960 --> 01:14:00.920
of pretty boys and highbrow shininess,
but throughout their system they've got some guys

1052
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.520
who can play baseball. No,
I agree, and I took Fajardo in

1053
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:09.239
this, but there were a couple
other guys that made my short list.

1054
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:15.119
Certainly for FYPD. I really liked
Luke Keishall for their's EI their second round

1055
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:17.760
or this year. Really good all
round kind of player, you know,

1056
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:23.920
not a star, I don't think, but has good contact skills, is

1057
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:28.720
athletic and reasonably quick. I think
he's someone who had a nice debut and

1058
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.239
I saw him a bit in Arizona
State guy and he's pretty good, So

1059
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:36.479
I like that pick for them.
Another guy that I saw years ago in

1060
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:43.000
college, back when I had a
friend coaching in the pack, Deshaun Cursey

1061
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:46.880
junior. Has spent a long time
in the minor leagues and I think kind

1062
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:49.840
of put it together a bit this
year, you know, full season,

1063
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.560
made it up to Triple A.
And this line is really good, you

1064
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:58.880
know, two ninety four, three
sixty six, four fifty five, fifteen

1065
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:02.800
homers, thirty nine feels so if
you're in a deep roto Minnesota's outfield,

1066
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:08.399
isn't that good or deep? You
know, like, and they've got injury

1067
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:13.720
concerns. I don't think they are
they bringing Taylor back. I don't think

1068
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.800
they're bringing Taylor back to play center
field, so Cursey might get some run.

1069
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.479
And he's fast put at University of
Utah. His swing is a little

1070
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.479
stiffer than I remembered it from college, but I think maybe he's using that

1071
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.079
to get to a little more power
and sacrificing a little bit of contact to

1072
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.119
do that. But here's another guy
that that's a really good full season like

1073
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.600
that. That's a really useful line, and he's someone that's just on the

1074
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:41.079
cusp of making the major leagues too. So yeah, I agree with you

1075
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.920
a lot, a lot of interesting
guys. Yeah. I always think of

1076
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.520
like the early two thousand Twins,
maybe a little bit later as again used

1077
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:53.600
to like to refer to them as
pirana. So they beat you, they

1078
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.000
kind of beat you one bite at
a time, and it's like, yeah,

1079
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.239
yeah, that's kind of how their
their minor leagues kind of feel like

1080
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.359
to me, like they've just got
they've got a bunch of them. It

1081
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:08.880
does seem like every year there's specifically
a bat that kind of really really breaks

1082
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:12.840
out. They're gonna have one this
year, I'm sure if I totally know

1083
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.199
who's gonna be. I'm hoping it's
a guy Ben Ross here and like Noah

1084
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:20.640
Miller is is a I know offensively, he has a lot of work to

1085
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:24.640
do and I don't know if he'll
ever get there, but he's like a

1086
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:30.399
fantastic young shortstop Owen's brother, Wisconsin
kid. He's had some flat I don't

1087
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:32.800
know, like he started off the
season really hot, but that that did

1088
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.640
not stick. But I don't think
he's he's I don't think he's well,

1089
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:41.079
yeah, I don't think he's well
owned, which makes sense, but I

1090
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.600
think the glove with his glove,
I think he has a major league chance.

1091
01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:48.680
So we'll see how that goes though. All Right, Matt the Kansas

1092
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:53.560
City Royals, I think we've had
one of the maybe one of the better

1093
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:58.640
B side success stories from from the
Royals and Michel Garcia. He got some

1094
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.640
major league run this year. Well
I think he did last year too,

1095
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:05.119
didn't he a little bit? But
he's kind of maybe being a guy.

1096
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:10.479
Huh, what do you get any
thoughts on Garcia? Garcia is a guy

1097
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:15.600
that I really want to see succeed. Like a he plays good defense and

1098
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.359
I think that's fun. So that
infield for a little bit there, I

1099
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:24.840
think had just like plus defenders all
the way around, and that was made

1100
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:29.319
for some nice highlight reels and helped
save their big league pitching staff, which

1101
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:33.199
is not very good a few runs
at least. I really liked Garcia as

1102
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:36.960
a pick, and I hope he
sticks. He's got a lot of things

1103
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:42.119
that he does really well, and
he just feels like it hasn't fully coalesced.

1104
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.800
Like I think that's a guy who
might be a like twelve team mix

1105
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:48.840
league relevant, which is like Fantasy
star basically for the kinds of guys we're

1106
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:53.640
talking about, and he hasn't quite
gotten there yet. Yeah. And so

1107
01:17:53.840 --> 01:18:00.239
then last season I went with Diego
Hernandez and somewhat because I felt he was

1108
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:03.520
similar to Garcia in that he was
kind of a very much glove first,

1109
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:10.600
athletic, steels bases light bat.
But he started to show some things with

1110
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:14.760
the bat. He started tapping into
some power and hitting some home runs,

1111
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:19.600
and I'd seen him and some of
their coaches talking about a real swing change

1112
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:24.720
with him. He was also added
to the forty man like Garcia was,

1113
01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:30.319
without much Dynasty attention, but I
don't think this season those things really stuck.

1114
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:34.239
He's still like a plus center fielder
can still run, but the bat

1115
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:38.880
and the power that he was showing
just did not It just didn't happen.

1116
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:42.239
There were some injuries too. I
think he only got three hundred and thirteen

1117
01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:45.319
played appearances in, but he's still
a guy on the forty man roster.

1118
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.279
So I don't know. We'll see
what happens with Hernandez there, but I

1119
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:55.399
don't think twenty twenty three played out
like he or they were expecting. No,

1120
01:18:55.640 --> 01:19:00.079
definitely a step back for him in
where you saw Garcia and loft In

1121
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:04.079
kind of take steps forward or at
least keep progressing up the ladder and holding

1122
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:10.039
their own. Yeah. Her Nanda's
went the other way. Yeah, yeah,

1123
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.359
but you know you'll have that Matt
that will happen. I'm anxious to

1124
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:17.840
hear your thoughts on watching some of
these Royals pitchers here, but the last

1125
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:25.600
several seasons watching Royal's arms down at
these levels, at least the unheralded arms,

1126
01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:30.800
it's really tricky. See these guys
that look athletic, they'll usually have

1127
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:38.960
spicy offering or to a lot of
them will have a rookie ball track record

1128
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:44.960
of lots of walks and seemingly not
having great command. But then they get

1129
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.960
to the lowers and you think,
okay, maybe have they figured this out.

1130
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.359
There's kind of like a chunk of
those types. And then, like

1131
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:57.960
last year, I picked Adrian Alcantara, who elected free agency now and didn't

1132
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.039
really have a great season. But
just being me on my couch, it's

1133
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.960
hard for me to I don't know, it's hard for me to sift through

1134
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:10.319
their arms. I'm like, Okay, this guy's gonna stick. I think

1135
01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:14.199
I think this is gonna work.
Even before the prospect b side stuff,

1136
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:19.000
me picking up some of their arms
in some of my deep leagues and they're

1137
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:25.159
out of baseball the next year,
so it hasn't It's been hard for me

1138
01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:30.159
here. I ended up going with
another very small sample size of archives.

1139
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.760
But I really did like the look
of this kid, twenty year old Felix

1140
01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:40.720
Aronde, who got a total of
two starts in a ball total of nine

1141
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:45.159
and two thirds innings. He's six
three, one hundred and eighty five lanky

1142
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.720
Cuban that they signed in July of
twenty one. This was his first year

1143
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:56.039
state side. I think he got
like thirty seven forty innings in at rookie

1144
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:00.720
ball before his promotion at the end
of the year. Fastball ninety three.

1145
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:06.680
Maybe he's got a curveball, he's
got a slider. Both of the breaking

1146
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:12.399
balls I think tend to move more
south. The fastball seems to get over

1147
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.239
bats, at least in these two
starts against this level of hitter. He

1148
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:18.159
was kind of playing it all over
the zone too, and getting whiffs on

1149
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:23.239
all parts of the zone with the
fastball. Now, I also wondered if

1150
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:29.039
he was throwing two varietals of fastball. It was. It was hard to

1151
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.039
tell, though, especially on the
two broadcasts would often cut away when the

1152
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:35.800
catcher was flashing signs too. To
add just like another little wrinkled to all

1153
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:40.279
of it. There's some stuff if
you look at his rookie ball line and

1154
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.680
his two starts that are a little
different, Like his ground ball rate was

1155
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.239
much higher, and the two a
ball starts, the walks were much higher.

1156
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:51.479
I think those are a little bit
misleading if you're just looking at that

1157
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:56.520
line. I saw a change up
get called for in the first start.

1158
01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.359
I saw one called for, But
then he just threw a slider or a

1159
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.840
cutter, and the catcher was like, kind of like his body language was

1160
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:09.880
definitely like, what the fuck man? Then I saw a grip a little

1161
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:15.359
later that made me wonder about like
a splitter or a split finger fastball.

1162
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:19.439
Perhaps another young Cuban trying to throw
throw one of those. We talked about

1163
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:24.960
Espinosa with the Astros trying a few
of those. I don't know, maybe

1164
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.439
it's a Cuban thing. But then
later in the second start, I did

1165
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.000
confirm that there was a change up
being thrown when he left one middle middle

1166
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:33.319
and gave up a solo home run. It was not a very good pitch.

1167
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:40.279
But these two starts, the defense
like really really failed him, like

1168
01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:44.920
some players too that I think are
supposed to be watered for their defense airs

1169
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.079
and just plays that should have been
made. He did have a few walks.

1170
01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.479
They made him pay for the walks, like immediately hitting a home run

1171
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:55.720
or something. I don't really feel
like those walks were super well deserved.

1172
01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.119
I felt like he was getting squeezed
pretty well. I thought his command,

1173
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:03.039
and I don't mean just control,
like his command of his offerings was pretty

1174
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:06.000
good. He was trying to throw
to certain parts of the plate and stuff,

1175
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:10.079
and I thought he was doing that
at a pretty nice clip, especially

1176
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:14.840
for a what twenty year old.
Yeah, his second start, my spoiler

1177
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.920
alert, well, I won't even
say, but my cub's b side bats

1178
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:21.359
selection got him after a couple of
walks, hit a three run homer.

1179
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:25.479
But other than a couple of home
runs that he gave up, there wasn't

1180
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:28.920
really any hard contact. There was
like a couple of bloop extra base hits.

1181
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:31.399
Like I said, the defense wasn't
good. It was just kind of

1182
01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:35.159
some bad timing when those things kind
of all went together. But Aronde,

1183
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.079
I've gone with quite a few of
these guys. I feel like short looks

1184
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:44.000
and young at a ball, but
I like this, and they let him

1185
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:46.600
go fairly deep to pitch wise.
I think he was like at eighty pitches

1186
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:50.880
for both of his starts. There
was a few occasions where the manager came

1187
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:54.600
out and after he gave up like
a walk in a hit or something,

1188
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.239
and broadcasters were like, oh,
yeah, I think he's going to get

1189
01:23:57.239 --> 01:23:59.840
pulled, and I was like,
nope. He pitched like three more innings

1190
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:02.880
and struck out the side once he
got out of trouble a few times via

1191
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:08.000
via strikeouts. But I thought it
was a pretty impressive couple of starts.

1192
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:12.960
The first one especially was really good. Who knows with my luck Royals pitchers

1193
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.279
at this level, he might be
out of baseball next year, but he

1194
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:20.239
is not yet created yet in fan
tracks. But good looking, young young

1195
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:25.039
Cuban arm. I think here,
well, I love your deep dives into

1196
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:28.680
guys like that. And he's got
a great first name. That Felix is

1197
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.720
my son's name, so great,
great first name. Nice. There were

1198
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:38.399
some there were some interesting arms here, though. I felt like I almost

1199
01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:42.199
was gonna go with Shane Panzini.
I don't know if you watch any of

1200
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:45.720
him, but he was a fourth
round prep pick. Got a New Jersey

1201
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:49.439
Northern kid back in twenty twenty one
who was in a ball all of last

1202
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:54.319
year and then most of this season. Got a few starts in at high

1203
01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:58.000
A. He can throw, you
can throw hard. He's got ninety five

1204
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:01.159
ninety six on the fastball. I
think, I think the secondaries look like

1205
01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:04.800
in a vacuum. Nice. But
man, this guy just he just grooves

1206
01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:09.720
so many generic strikes. It kind
of it kind of drives me crazy.

1207
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.760
He and Maser Man like, what
what are you guys doing? Yeah,

1208
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:19.479
it's like they have like completely bought
in or taken much too literally the idea

1209
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:24.359
that like ninety six down the middle
is just as effective as any anything else

1210
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:28.640
or something. Yeah, and dude
and Panzini, this is actually I was

1211
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.920
watching him some today and this is
what made me boot him off and go

1212
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:36.680
with the Rondez was which might be
very fickle and silly, but so several

1213
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:41.760
occasions whereas Ketcher put down like a
three for a slider or something, and

1214
01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.439
I didn't see him shake it off
or nothing. He just like immediately goes

1215
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:49.000
into his motion and just like pumps
a fastball down the middle, and every

1216
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.520
time it happened, he got freaking
rocked. You got to hit hard.

1217
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.000
I'm just like, dude, what
I'm like, all right, I'm like,

1218
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:58.079
I don't like you, man,
I don't like you anymore. I

1219
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.840
don't know what you're doing, why
you're doing that. I really want to

1220
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:05.479
watch some more of Hunter Pattison,
who was their fifth round pick out of

1221
01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:10.520
Central Florida. Watch any of them, Well, there's not much to watch.

1222
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:14.800
He had like Tommy John surgery I
think maybe while he was still in

1223
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:17.640
school, and he got like one
start three innings in. So just a

1224
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:23.279
guy that I'm kind of flagging.
Eric Sarintola was a little interesting on the

1225
01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:27.359
surface level or meets the eye,
maybe not like really loud stuff, but

1226
01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:30.159
he does get strikeouts. He was
in the AFL. I didn't really check

1227
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:34.600
to see how he did. Their
Lunder Avila was the guy that I watched

1228
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:39.359
a little bit. He got like
twenty starts in. He's not created yet

1229
01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:43.359
in fan tracks, he was a
little interesting. Andrew Hoffman guy from your

1230
01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:45.039
Braves, who I think has a
really good slider, but I don't know

1231
01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:48.920
if he has like a fastball that
fits with it really well to get too

1232
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:53.720
excited. He was chopping up for
the Braves and then he got traded and

1233
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:57.880
immediately regressed, Like I think,
I wonder if that might be related.

1234
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:01.479
Yeah, no, who knows.
Then I watched this sort of solid well

1235
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:05.159
maybe a little bit older. Lefty
was who did get up to double a

1236
01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:09.520
Tyson Guerrero. Think he's from your
neck of the woods, somewhere up there

1237
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:12.399
in the north northwest. But he
was a little bit interesting. So I

1238
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.560
kind of felt like there was a
better group than the last couple of seasons

1239
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:17.119
he had to choose from. But
uh, yeah, end of the day,

1240
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.039
I don't know. I just like
the upside or ceiling like people like

1241
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:25.720
to say of Aronde. So yeah, I don't know what do you got,

1242
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:30.000
Matt. I kind of agree with
you that there were a few interesting

1243
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:32.279
names, Like I watched a couple
of the guys that you watched and thought

1244
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:36.880
there was something here or there,
Like Avila, I thought he was one.

1245
01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:40.600
Then I've got a flag on in
a couple of leagues to follow.

1246
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:45.479
David Sandlin's A ball run was phenomenal, like that was one of the best

1247
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:50.920
A ball runs this year, and
then he was pretty bad in Hia to

1248
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.199
end the year, and it was
just a couple of starts, but it

1249
01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:57.520
made me wonder, which is sort
of the real version. Do you know

1250
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:02.359
what his raster percentage was? It
might have been a touch high because his

1251
01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:06.840
able run was so dominant. Let
me see if it doesn't, it doesn't,

1252
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:10.239
It doesn't really matter to worry.
No, I think it was.

1253
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.960
When I pulled it, it was
like four percent, So yeah, higher

1254
01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.199
than our our thing. But he's
one that I think Jeff Ponce had written

1255
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:23.960
about before about he sneakily had some
of the best underlying metrics in the minors.

1256
01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:27.880
So while the overall on was good, he might have even earned a

1257
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.159
better line. So he's someone that
I'm watching and I think I have a

1258
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:33.159
couple of places, especially if you
can put some more innings behind it next

1259
01:28:33.239 --> 01:28:38.399
year. Frank Bozakato, he's someone
that is way higher on than we usually

1260
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:41.960
talk about. But just to compare, like, I didn't love what I

1261
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.119
saw from him this year. I
just thought the walks are just untenable at

1262
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:49.800
sixteen point two percent on the year, And people get excited about the thirty

1263
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:55.039
percent strikeout rate, but he's walking
sixteen percent, Like, who cares like

1264
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.680
He's not going to be a major
league starter, I don't think. So

1265
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:01.279
he's got to tighten that. Uh. I watched a good bit of Chandler

1266
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:05.760
Champlain, who's this big old donkey
Righty made it up to double A this

1267
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:12.439
year for Kansas City and Champlain,
you know, he's like kind of straight

1268
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:16.760
over the top slider, curveball change, but he's a little bit kind of

1269
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:20.399
flailing all over the place. Even
despite that he has decent command. It

1270
01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:23.800
seems like, or at least the
control. He doesn't walk a lot of

1271
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:28.119
guys. All of his pitches seem
like they play down rather than playing up

1272
01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:31.680
like you think. With his extension
his fastball that's in the low nineties load

1273
01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:36.640
to mid nineties would play up,
but it sure doesn't seem like it does.

1274
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.840
I'm not sure if I got Yeah, I don't think I got good

1275
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:45.960
Velo ratings on him. But it's
just it just seems like everything together for

1276
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:50.560
him plays down rather than you think
with that kind of size and extension,

1277
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:55.399
it plays up and its arms are
flailing about everywhere. It's it's not the

1278
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:59.079
cleanest delivery I've ever seen. They
got they got him from the Yankees,

1279
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:03.520
right yeah, yeah? Wait,
wait are you telling me the Yankees sold

1280
01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:08.520
a lemon pitching prospect to somebody.
I don't know if it's a lemon yet.

1281
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:12.520
I just didn't love what I saw, Like he still had a decent

1282
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:15.640
year, but I was just like, like I was gonna take him as

1283
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:18.199
my B side just because he I
liked that he threw one hundred and thirty

1284
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:23.279
some innings this year, and like
seemed like he held together and it seems

1285
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:27.279
like he's got four pitches. But
after watching him a good bit, I

1286
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:33.039
switched to Mason Barnett, who is
my actual B side selection. Barnett is

1287
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:38.640
a righty with good ride on his
forcing fastball and a decent breaking ball.

1288
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:42.039
The performance as a whole, you
know, he threw a good floor of

1289
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:45.840
innings, made it up to double
a one hundred and fourteen two thirds innings

1290
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:48.760
this year. Twenty eight point eight
percent strikeout rate and ten point five percent

1291
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.319
walk, right, like, those
are both good, you know, walk

1292
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:57.000
maybe as a touch above average or
worse than average, but that's good strikeouts

1293
01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:00.640
and the arsenal seems like it backs
it up, and he seems like he's

1294
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:04.479
poised on the mound. I think
the problem for me with him is that

1295
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:11.399
the secondaries weren't big with weapons.
So his fastball seems good and it seems

1296
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:17.000
like it plays well, but he
either misses with his off speed or it

1297
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.239
doesn't garner the whiffs that it should. So he's one that like I took,

1298
01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:27.159
and I like him, but it
was more an indictment on the other

1299
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.319
options. You know, it's more
like this guy's maybe a forty overall wrath

1300
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:35.720
of him me being excited about him
making a rotation. So Mason Barnett,

1301
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:41.279
he still has some time. He's
only twenty two two draftee. He was

1302
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.760
their third rounders, so they still
they seem to believe, believe in him,

1303
01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.760
and he really has done nothing but
perform up to this point. But

1304
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:53.479
it'll be interesting to see if he
can keep tightening up the command. That's

1305
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:55.479
that's the thing. I think.
If he can do that, if he

1306
01:31:55.520 --> 01:32:00.920
can up one of his breakers to
being average or above, then maybe we

1307
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:03.159
got a guy here. But for
now, it's it's worth a follow.

1308
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:09.640
And then Bats, of course we
both like one of my draft selections.

1309
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:14.079
Was it my first one? No, my second, Trevor Werner. He

1310
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:16.359
was kind of hands down, kind
of want it big for me here.

1311
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:21.680
The only other Bats I really watched
or thought about here, I think is

1312
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:26.039
one is your selection. So I'll
say that, But then I'll watch a

1313
01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:29.960
little bit of Peyton Wilson, who
was their second round pick out of Alabama

1314
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.279
a few years ago. Kind of
fits the mold of a lot of Kansas

1315
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:36.920
City hitters, I think. Kind
of speedy, athletic, can play pretty

1316
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.399
good defense, I think, but
it's just kind of light hitting. I

1317
01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:45.039
think he was in the AFL a
little bit. I don't know if I'm

1318
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:48.319
super excited about him, but the
guy that I imagine will probably be in

1319
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:53.039
the majors with the Royals at some
point, who'd you go with, Matt

1320
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:57.039
Yeah. I liked Peyton Wilson too. I watched a little bit of a

1321
01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:00.000
couple of other guys. Kitten Wallace, he's a fall for me, just

1322
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:04.920
you know, another decent kind of
all around type without a plus tool.

1323
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:10.720
I thought Tyler Tolbert had a really
interesting line at double A this year.

1324
01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.319
You know, it netted out just
to ninety nine WRC plus the league average,

1325
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.720
but he stole fifty bags. And
again, one of these guys is

1326
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:21.479
playing all over short center right like
that was somewhat interesting to me. Carter

1327
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.439
Jensen is a guy that I think
is maybe a little more owned because he

1328
01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:29.520
got some helium in the kind of
international side of things. But he's a

1329
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:32.560
nineteen year old catcher at HI a
one o nine WRC plus with some power

1330
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:36.600
and speed. Eleven homers, eleven
steals in somewhat full season this year.

1331
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.960
But he's someone who I think is
a pretty good hitter. And I've watched

1332
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:45.479
a fair amount of but my selection
is Javier vaz Vaz is another of these

1333
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:49.840
guys who's really light, hitting some
speed. He's not a burner, but

1334
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:55.000
he's a guy who's going to steal
a few bags and can play all over

1335
01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:58.079
second base, shortstop, left field. I think second base is where he's

1336
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:00.840
going to spend most of this time. He doesn't strike out very much nine

1337
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.439
point seven percent strikeout rate, runs
into a few homers, you know,

1338
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:09.520
only eight this year. Again,
that's probably what you're looking at, you

1339
01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:13.439
know, five to ten homers over
the course of a full major league season.

1340
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:18.800
But the contact skills are really good. I just liked the defensive versatility

1341
01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:24.760
as well, and I think that
makes him a very very high probability big

1342
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:29.640
leaguer. And that plus the very
low strikeout percentage and the kind of line

1343
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:31.840
drive, contact oriented swing with a
little bit of speed. This is to

1344
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:36.520
me, if you play in really
deep roto or categories dynasty leagues and you

1345
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:43.279
need like an absolutely free dynasty bat
for some positional flexibility and a little bit

1346
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:46.920
of speed and a decent average,
I think Heavier Vaz is your is your

1347
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:50.399
guy here, Like he's another one
that I think he was zero percent.

1348
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:55.359
Let me double check that when I
pulled this h so I had him at

1349
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:59.439
one percent. Yeah, I've already
I've already got him rostered on a few

1350
01:34:59.479 --> 01:35:02.840
deep leagues. So yeah, I
think I think Vaz is a very solid

1351
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:08.319
B side selection here. Yeah,
he's done nothing but hit like twenty percent

1352
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:12.640
better than at league average at every
stop that he's been at. Projected for

1353
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:16.600
eighty eight WRC plus right now.
If Steamer says you drop him in in

1354
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.560
Kansas City right now, he projects
for eighty eight WRC plus, which is

1355
01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:24.920
not like that's not a screaming deal. But for a guy that's one or

1356
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:29.039
two percent owns and might get you
some bags, Like, like I said,

1357
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.239
he's sold thirty this year, that's
not nothing. So how do your

1358
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:34.640
vas He's just he's like again,
he's not going to win you a league,

1359
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:39.039
but this is the kind of guy
that might fill fill out while one

1360
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.640
of your studs is injured and pick
up a couple of bags for you.

1361
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:45.439
Or he's not break out and he's
not very big, right, No,

1362
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:49.600
he a small guy. Yeah,
what do you think the average what do

1363
01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:54.439
you think the average height is here? Of your selections, we should have

1364
01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:58.640
average height weight when we're all done. We should because I do think that

1365
01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:01.840
like on the pitching side, I
go bigger, like the guys that are

1366
01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:05.720
big fatties. And then on on
the hitting side, a lot of the

1367
01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:09.800
guys that I like are sort of
the undersized guys. I don't know.

1368
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:12.319
I don't know, because I think
part of it to me is like some

1369
01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:17.159
of that, I think it's overweighted
when you're like when you're evaluating a guy,

1370
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.720
and so much of what I come
at it is like are the numbers

1371
01:36:19.760 --> 01:36:23.119
interesting? Now, let me watch
you and to see, like, I

1372
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.560
don't really care how big you are, but if the actions are clean and

1373
01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:30.000
you look like you can play,
and you're performing, like, I don't

1374
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.079
care what you look like. If
you're short, you're not going to be

1375
01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:36.279
owned at a very high You're not
going to be rostered at a very high

1376
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:41.399
rate. If you're if you're like
Venezuelan and hitting Abel and there hasn't been

1377
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:44.399
a lot written about you, those
guys slip through the cracks, you know,

1378
01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:48.119
if you if you don't throw mid
nineties, those guys can slip through

1379
01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:53.359
the cracks right and like early if
you're playing on the West Coast, maybe

1380
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:56.960
that plays into it too, I
don't know. Maybe maybe a quick anecdote

1381
01:36:57.039 --> 01:37:00.720
from my playing days, I had
a teammate guy that I played against in

1382
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:03.760
high school. We ended up in
a bunch of the same tournaments and stuff,

1383
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.359
and so knew him really well in
high school and then it was my

1384
01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:12.159
teammate in college. Every single level
that we played, I think he hit

1385
01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:15.119
one more home run than I did, like at every level, you know,

1386
01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:17.119
high school, like I hit six
homers, he hit seven. Senior

1387
01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:20.520
year I hit eight, he hit
nine. And it was funny, you

1388
01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:24.640
know, just like you know,
we knew each other and had a nice

1389
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:27.479
like friendly rivalry going. And then
we went to college and we're on the

1390
01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:30.520
same team, and every year it
was like he out homered me. And

1391
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:34.960
he is like a generous five six, like maybe five seven, like small

1392
01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:39.600
second base, short stuff kind of
guy, and I'm big, I'm like

1393
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:43.960
six forward, two twenty in college, you know, like power hitting outfielder,

1394
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:47.279
and he like out homered me every
single season we played. And I

1395
01:37:47.359 --> 01:37:50.800
always, I always was impressed by
how good he was, you know,

1396
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.199
like that was it was always an
impressive thing. And so I think maybe

1397
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:59.920
he gave me an appreciation for those
sort of undersized and overlooked guys like he's.

1398
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:01.239
He was very good. And yeah, I think a lot of these

1399
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:05.399
guys share something in common with I
think I think a lot of your experiences

1400
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:11.720
have probably molded you into a fantastic
B side and mutter, here, well,

1401
01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:16.039
we'll see. I'm super curious just
to see how our drafts and our

1402
01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:19.439
selections play out, because you know, you always like you'll pick out these

1403
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:23.760
guys that I've never even heard of, even as I'm looking for him,

1404
01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:25.720
and I go back and watch them, I'm like, oh, that was

1405
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:28.159
a good pick. So I have
lots to learn from you, Nate,

1406
01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:30.960
lots to learn. I think the
I don't even want to call it advice,

1407
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:33.359
but all I got to say is, uh, you just got to

1408
01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:40.199
be stupid enough to talk about a
few of these guys. I was thinking

1409
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:44.479
about that, like you mentioned,
I think in our first pods that we

1410
01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:47.399
did together about like what's your base
success rate? And I think that when

1411
01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:50.479
I get a little bit of time, I might go back through and look

1412
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:55.039
like, okay, if you just
pick thirty names out of the hat,

1413
01:38:55.239 --> 01:39:00.199
like how many how many of those
guys ending up being successful? Like sort

1414
01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:03.159
of what's our baseline that we're competing
against? You know, because there is

1415
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.920
something to that. I saw someone
in s might have been on the discord

1416
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:12.000
where like someone was being an ass
and talking shit about somebody and I was

1417
01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.960
just like, you're just being a
dick about this. But one thing they

1418
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:17.520
said was kind of true is like, if you talk about literally everybody,

1419
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:20.159
at some point, you're going to
be right and you're going to get to

1420
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:25.800
be able to go back like I
was on him in September of twenty twenty

1421
01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:30.399
two. So fuck you, you
know, But I don't necessarily think that

1422
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:34.239
that, like cherry picking those results
is the best commentary on whether you're actually

1423
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:40.000
like being a helpful analyst, you
know, so right? What I like,

1424
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.239
I like to think that we,
you know, for the for the

1425
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:46.680
brave few out there, are at
least bringing up some names and having discussion

1426
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:51.159
and bringing some light to some players
that nobody else really ever talks about.

1427
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:57.520
And how many conversations, how many
White Langford versus Dylan Cruz conversations do we

1428
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.760
have to have, and how many
of those are actually you full and go

1429
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:04.000
back and forth and talk about the
top five first year player draft order like

1430
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:08.840
well for one that only affects at
most five people in your league. I

1431
01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:12.880
think going through these with you,
I think complimented each other well in a

1432
01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.800
way, like you've done really well. I think identifying players that have a

1433
01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.600
very high probability of making the big
leagues, I think, right at least

1434
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:23.880
through your drafts. I mean,
I like to think that I've done that

1435
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.840
too, but I have a feeling
that your rate will be much higher than

1436
01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:30.199
mine. For here. But on
the other side, I like that maybe

1437
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.279
I've pointed out some guys that are
very small sample sizes, but I think

1438
01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.680
do have some talent, and who
knows, maybe maybe one or two of

1439
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:41.920
those takes off some you know,
like we've had some b siders that we've

1440
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:45.159
got a little bit of a ball
run and kind of really took off.

1441
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:48.720
So we'll see. But I think
we've done of kind of hitting both ends

1442
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:53.119
of that spectrum. Yeah, I
do think, and I do think we're

1443
01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:58.680
being realistic about what we're talking about
here. You know, we're not saying

1444
01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:02.800
these guys are better than why at
Langford and building Cruise, Right, Maybe

1445
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:06.720
some of them are better than just
way to Paula, But that's there are

1446
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:12.000
some there are some pretty boy names
that I that I would rather have,

1447
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:15.920
some guys that we talked about for
sure, maybe we'll get into some of

1448
01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:20.319
that. I imagine we probably will
same here. I think we might actually

1449
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:25.479
get into one of my favorite guys
to hit on next week, so we

1450
01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:29.680
yes, yeah, so next week
we will be talking well, I shouldn't

1451
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:33.439
say Matt. I shouldn't say next
week next time. Next week we have

1452
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:36.800
a holiday coming up, but yeah, so next time we will be talking

1453
01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:42.520
the National League Central, which I
don't think you selected anybody from the NL

1454
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.760
Central in our drafts. I took
three hitters, so I won't have as

1455
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.560
probably as many hitters, but we
will get into that next time. I

1456
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:55.279
have been trying to supplement some things
on Twitter, dropping some video and some

1457
01:41:55.399 --> 01:41:58.920
other things, try to highlight what
we've been talking about. It's hard to

1458
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:03.000
put video into world words. Sometimes
you can follow me there at pitching specs,

1459
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:10.119
you can't follow Matt there or anywhere. Maybe the Dynasty discord. Does

1460
01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:14.199
Matt really even exist? Or is
this cat fishing? I don't know.

1461
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:17.119
I am. I am literally on
your video feed right now, so I

1462
01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:21.640
do literally exist, but they don't
see that. I don't know they don't

1463
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:27.880
they don't, But we will let
Chicago Farmer take us out. Do well.

1464
01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:33.039
We'll talk to you next time.
Matus riding to his head, you

1465
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:40.960
hop it down first with the lump
bonius face and on the very next pitch,

1466
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:49.760
he up and stole second face with
gretest speed. He wasn't born.

1467
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:56.159
He had YES uniform