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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera, He's Jagan Zaws got
Kevin in the house with us. Glad

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to see both of you guys have
not entered the transfer portal that are with

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me today. That's a slow news
day, but not really a slow news

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day because a lot of stuff is
happening. Where do we start, right?

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It was a weekend to remember.
First, the Cats basketball team stunk

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it up in Pullman, which was
a another shocker. Yeah, you know

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not, you know, the more
I thought about Steve, not sho how

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because go ahead, you're gonna you're
gonna lose games, and the way he

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didn't, I mean didn't when Arizona
last week. The whole top ten lost

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last oh yeah yeah, including Histon
twice. Right, so you know,

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when when you put it on in
context, you know, not not super

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shocked. I mean, yeah,
I think do I think they should have

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won the game. It happens.
Do I think they're better than Washington State?

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Yeah, but you know, as
we always say, Arizona is always

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getting everybody's best shot. They go
to a place like Washington State, a

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terrible place to have to go in
the winter time. Sure, and they

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didn't play well. And if you
don't play well, well, that's part

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of the problem. You know,
somebody can beat you. That's part of

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the problem. And I think that's
the scare of everybody who follows them.

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Me. You know, I've seen
them happen, go up there and get

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beat with two people in the gym. That's how they usually, like you

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usually lose when there's nobody in the
gym. But this is a team that

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that should be playing better now and
and kind of always, they're not.

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And they're not. That's the concern. They're just not. Let's let's go

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to the subject that. Let's change
that. We'll come back to that later.

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Big news over the weekend, obviously, Jedfish is gone. And it

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happened in a moment of a few
hours and maybe not in his timeline because

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maybe stuff Johnson Baseball Johnson, Jay
Johnson, we don't know the full context

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of what happened there, But it
seems a lot like it We want you

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you want in Okay, Yeah,
I mean it happened quickly. It cuts

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you a little bit surprise because we
were at each other. It did because

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for a lot of reasons. There's
so many layers to this. But where

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where I where my where my brain
was on whether or not he was gonna

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take the job, was thinking he's
leaving at some point in fact, you

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know, with what's happening at Florida, I'm thinking he's leaving after next year.

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He's gonna you know, he's gonna
coach another year here. They're gonna

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have a really good season. The
Florida job is gonna clear because Billy Napier's

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on the hot seat. You know, he's done. He's done a terrible

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job over there. They're not winning
enough. It's his alma mater. He's

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gonna wait for that job, and
there's no reason for him to jump to

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another job when he's got so much
going on here and he can he can

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get seven or eight million, nine
million at Florida if he just waits a

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year. And what's wrong with waiting
a year when you're making three and a

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half million dollars. That was my
very logical thinking of what I thought was

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gonna happen. Logical, But you're
not jet but I'm not. I'm not

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jet fishing. Oh no. I
was just gonna add to what Jay was

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saying about how not only is it
a logical it's a logical decision from a

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financial standpoint, but also the team
is good. The rosters are turning a

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lot of good players, and I
are going to a Washington Husky's roster that's

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kind of gutted from what it was
like. It's gutted, but but he

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can take everybody with him, and
that's what might happen. So so my

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whole thing was money situation here.
Obviously he's gonna make a tunnel with their

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seven point seventy five here, he
would have made it at least at the

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most close to five maybe maybe.
How much do you think that the financial

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situation? I didn't write about it
yesterday in my column because I didn't think

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it played a big part in it. But zero you're saying zero zero because

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and I went on so I went
on on on on Twitter yesterday because so

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many people were saying, oh,
if they would have gotten the contract.

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Shut the hell up. That means
nothing. It had nothing to do with

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the contract. Thing that frush would
be frustrated to be the most, Shane

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is exactly what you did and I
did yesterday and probty Kevin, all this,

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all this bs on Twitter and Facebook
with Joe Blow going on and this

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and this. No, no,
no, let the professionals handle this.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's what frustrates
me the most. No, it was

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the contract had nothing to do with
it, you know, I do,

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I don't know, but I'm talking
about the overall, the overall yeah,

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you know, people calling them a
scumbag and you know, so many things.

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I'm like, you know, look, was I angry at some point?

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Yes? Am I still disappointed?
Yes, but he brought you a

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lot of joy, right, I'm
not And you know what, I'm not

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disappointed. I guess I'm not disappointed
in so much in Jed Fish as I'm

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disappointed that, as you know,
we're gonna have Anthony to Jemino on you

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know later and what he said in
his clumsy Arizona can never have nice things.

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I'm disappointed about that. You talk
about that, Yeah, I'm disappointed

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about that, about the fact that
here we were unexpectedly had this great season,

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looking forward to potentially another great season, and now that the rug's been

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pulled out. So I've got disappointment. I'm frustrated at and this is a

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conversation I've had with a bunch of
people. I'm frustrated at what college football,

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in college sports, mainly college football
college basketball, have become right that

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not only do you lose your coach
in a heartbeat, but you can lose

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your entire team with a heartbeat,
and they can take everything from you by

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taking just taking your coach. Let
me ask you this, I'm gonna give

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you. I'm gonna sit you back
thirty seven years maybe more. How did

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Smith do this? I'm sure it
hasn't really been. It's different now but

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the same. There are some similarities, and I thought about that immediately,

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immediately thought about that. But you
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on Friday, when we're talking about
Arry Smith, the difference there was one

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while it was USC but a big
difference was but because of state law,

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Larry Smith could not get more than
a one year contract in USC was offering

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him five. I think, why
wouldn't you take that of course you're going

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to take that. Well, same
with same with j You know in dead

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now you know he could get a
five year contract. He was gonna get

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five million. I think the reporting
five point one million a year over five

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years. There's plenty of money.
The thing about it is is that.

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And that's the reason I thought,
you know, he would stay, because

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he's going to get enough money to
be here at least for one more.

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Right, the question is why would
he jump at this job if I still

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don't think Washington is his endgame?
No, of course, not right,

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dude, If he has you could, I think the NFL is his end

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game. I think eventually the NFL
will be the end game after he's if

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he does well here, after he
goes to Florida, I think he's gonna

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have to go spend a couple of
years. Well May and maybe and maybe

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he goes and spends three years at
Washington and now and they do. But

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the thing of it is Washington is
a rebuild. Well, here here's your

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thing. We don't This is maybe
a naive of me to say this,

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but we don't know how good of
a football coach he actually is. Wow,

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And I was just reading Michae Lev's
column that just went up a little

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bit ago. Washington has taking a
huge risk because how many times have I

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said I'm worried about next year at
Arizona, that that that that that that

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everything will come crash into the ground, because it always does at Arizona.

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We don't know how good a coach
he is. Was he was he what

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Arizona needed? Yes? Was he? You know what? Was he able

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to pull things together at Arizona quickly? Yes? Right? But Washington's a

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whole different beast. I thought that
too. And he's gonna have a hard

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type. He had hard type here
and more part to him because he did

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a great job. Uh, he's
gonna be and we're gonna have Jim Moore

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from the radio, an old fan
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station up there. He's gonna be
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Well, yeah, I see.
I disagreed with the one thing that Michael

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Lev said that Washington football is top
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It is not. The Seahawks are
are much bigger Seahawks. The Mariners

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are pretty big deal after being pretty
good. The soccer situation up there is

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pretty good. Uh, there's a
lot of there's a lot of stuff.

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You know, is Washington you know
in play, Sure it is, But

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I disagree with Michael. The Seahawks
are way bigger deal than we'll talk to.

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But you know, you know,
getting back to what I think you're

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you know you're talking about, is
that you know, this is a It's

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a completely different thing. He jed
Fish was under zero pressure to win here.

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He had all the time in the
world, sure to start winning.

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The fact that he did it,
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next year, was there gonna be
pressure on it more than this year,

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But not what he's going to face
it. They were just in the National

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Championship Game, and I get I
know people are smart enough up there to

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understand, you lose your whole roster. We don't expect you to be in

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the National Championship Game, but we
don't expect you being finished eighth place in

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the Big ten either. He's going
to be under a lot of pressure,

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and how he handles that remains to
be seen. Well, seven point seven

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five million dollars will use that pressure
for a year or two or three will

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and we'll see what happens. Do
you think and this is a dumb question,

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maybe a naive question. Again,
it was a money grab, Okay,

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I would I would think it would
have to be. Well, let

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me take it back ninety eight percent. The other two percent is he he

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this he might have come to come
to the decision that this is a quicker

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path to where he wants to get
to and getting paid to do it right

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and get and I think it's mostly
a money grab. Which when I talk

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about the part about when I was
angry about this, that you know what

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what people are saying say. Okay, so if you if you knew you

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were going to leave at some point
somewhere for bigger money and a bigger program,

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then why were you coming in here
selling family loyalty? Yeah, that

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was the say, you know,
don't sell that if you're not gonna if

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you're not gonna stick to it.
You know, we've been in this business

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a long time, Jake. They
say stuff just to get you away and

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then change your mind. A week
later he said something's to rom and somethings

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to to New Highslan whatever. On
a Monday Tuesday, it was totally different.

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That's just I love you. One
day, Yeah, I met somebody

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better I gotta to get out of
it. But the problem with that Steve

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that I see and he you know, he came in here. You know,

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I love the community. You know, I'm want to be a big

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part is this. If he understood
the community, he would understand he would

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have understood that selling that this community
was guloble to that. You know,

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did we believe all along that at
some point he was going to leave after

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sure? That was my whole column
yesterday, right, we all believe at

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some point, but this community did
not believe he was gonna leave like this.

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No, and and and that's the
part that that's the part that stings

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to this community. You're missing We
got four minute stuff on this on this

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moment segment here. But let me
tell you so you saw the departure,

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correct, Yeah? How did that's
it? That was going to ask you

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to if what you guys made of
the video and the I don't know,

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but it wasn't kosher. It wasn't
good. See. And that's the thing.

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You know, people, you know, people remember as much as they

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loved him two weeks ago, they
hate him that much now he he crapped

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on this community. And this community
does not like to be crapped on.

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No community likes to be crapped on, but especially as it relates to its

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football run. It's basketball. He
crapped on us, and give some context.

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Please, Look, you know this
this community is its no no,

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no, no no. Andalking about
the video, well the video, well

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you know the the you know,
having the having the signing, the signing

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of the contract. You know in
here, you know, the Washington guy

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rings the doorbell with an a logo
next to the doorbell, walks in Jed's

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all smiles. They signed the contract. How long ago did this contract get

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done? Right? And and then
you know, for the Washington guy to

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come here, you know, him
to take a video of himself at the

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airport in front of the private private
plane that he's he's jumping on to get

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the hell out of here, all
of that stuff. You know what,

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I get it. You're left,
you got your money, You're going have

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a little respect for the community that
helped you get to hear right, I

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get it. That's it. And
what did you guys think about the the

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what the three minute meeting with the
with the players. Yeah, I don't

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know how normally those things go,
but that's in context. That's not good

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either. See and that and that
that. That was one of things that

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was said to me was if you're
going to do this to these guys who

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you asked to trust you, to
come here to a place that they could

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have gone to better places and to
put up with two years of crap before

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they you know, found the the
glory of it in this last year,

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then damn it, go to that
meeting and stand there and answer all the

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damn questions. Okay, so you
know this, and you're you're a player

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who's played for him three four years
whatever, three years and and and gone

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through a lot. Now and you
went through this three minute thing, and

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you've seen the videos. Do you
go? Do you leave this place and

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go with him? Knowing what you
know? Well, yeah, I don't

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blame well, I don't know.
I don't blame anybody that does. But

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also don't blame anybody that doesn't.
It says, wait a minute, this

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guy's not who I thought he was. Right, that's a very fair assessment.

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I think it's I think it's totally
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what they think will be best for
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you cannot be upset with them if
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mean the two guys that are sticking
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north of Fida and and Tatoo McMillan. Those guys I know, but but

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so those are the two that you
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kind of like you know, the
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highly visible guys that put the program, the people's the marquee guys. Are

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those two guys you know? For
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Washington because the path that they're trying
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But the question is, and maybe
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another year or two that he's got
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I don't know, I don't know
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we'll we'll obviously be finding that the
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We'll get a whold little Jim Moore
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up there, and carry on with
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Hey, welcome back tooinning the ball
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Steve Rivera, you're Jigginsaws. Now
on the phone, we have Jim Moore

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from Seattle. Jim, how you
doing doing great? Steve? How are

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you? Thank you? What's going
on in Seattle? Seattle Seahawks? You

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but your bunch of Steelers up there? What the hell? Jim? A?

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Yeah, boy, A lot of
a lot going on last week.

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I mean, the Huskies lose the
National Championship, and then Kayla de bor

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goes to Alabama, and then Jed
Fish hired all in one week, and

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then Pete Carroll they reave him of
his duties. I guess I'm giving you

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a news Jordy know about. But
yeah, it's been pretty active in Seattle,

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for sure. What can what can
Jetfish expect from the from the media

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up there? What can you expect
from the media? What is he going

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to be treated nicely? Fairly?
Gonna is he gonna have a tough time

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with the media. What is it? Come on, come on, Steve,

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You remember me, right? That
was always nice and fair, wasn't

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I that's for another day. Well, actually, actually I'm writing a column

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that's going to be in the Tacoma
paper here shortly basically saying that, hey,

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Husky fans enjoyed Jetfish while he's here
because he's probably gonna go to Florida

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next year. We just talked about
that. We were just saying that.

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We were just talking about that,
Jim and and so, I mean,

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how much do they know about Jetfish
or do we do? You know how

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much they know about jet Fish?
What's the perception right now of all of

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that? Well, you know,
I'm not sure. And you're talking to

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a crude man. I mean,
so it's not a Husky point of view

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here. I mean, I want
complete chaos over there if I have my

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way. But I think most people
are feeling like it's a good higher.

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They like what Fish did. And
Tucson this year, I mean, you

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guys with I mean, the Wildcats
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beat Oklahoma, and I just I
mean to me, I'm just going,

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God, why would you want to
leave Tucson to come to rainy Seattle.

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Is that really a move up?
I guess, but it doesn't seem like

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that great a one to me.
And maybe Husky fans haven't checked out his

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Wikipedia page like others of us have. I mean, crush almighty. I

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mean that thing goes on forever.
All the jobs he's had, so what

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Tucson is the longest he's been anywhere. And you look at Billy Napier and

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what he's doing in Florida. He's
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If he loses again this season,
I mean, good fish is going to

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be at the top of their list
down there. And I'm sure he would

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take it because we all well,
you know anyway, and I'm just finding

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this out. He went to Florida, he loves Florida. New Jersey kid,

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he went down to Florida, loves
Steve Spurrier, and you know,

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I was leaving notes on his windshield
and everything, and so like what he's

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gonna tell everybody at this press conference
in Seattle tomorrow about boy, what what

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opportunity of a lifetime to come here, you know on purple and gold and

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go dogs and bow down and all
that stuff. And then I'm gonna be

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thinking, well, wait a minute, man, next year at this time,

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you're probably gonna be down in Florida
wearing an orange tow instead of a

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purple one. Well, and I
guess that's that's what what Steve was was

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asking about, in terms of how
the media is going to take all this,

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knowing that, for instance, in
all the jobs he's had as a

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coach, the longest he stayed at
a place, somebody did the math one

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point five three years, you know, so you're right, he stayed here

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twice as long as he stayed at
anywhere else. Will he get called on

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that or will he get asked about
that? Will that be the kind of

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image that's created about him? I
hope so. But I mean I include

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myself in this. We're typically soft
the Seattle media. There really aren't too

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many tough questions asked. You know, tomorrow, I suspect it'll be like,

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hey, you know, we're going
to have a reset here and we

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think that Jedfish is the guy to
lead us. You know, I thought

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sure that they were going to hire
Ryan Grebb. I thought that would have

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been a better hire the offensive coordinator, so you'd have some continuity. I

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mean, so many feelings hurt by
Kayln de Borer leaving. I mean,

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some people understanding, boy, he
had to take it. It's Alabama,

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and others of us are going,
hey, come on, man, really,

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you could win a national championship at
Washington. And to me, again

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being a Koog, I'd rather beat
the king rather than be the king,

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you know what I'm saying. I
mean, I just would rather be the

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underdog who knocks off the guy that's
always been on top. And I just

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don't understand why that's just so attractive
to people to do that. And I

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don't think Caylen Debor is going to
be a huge success down there. And

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I have no idea what Fish is
going to be. What he was there

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for three years in Tucson, he
had two bad seasons and then one good

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one, and it's just you know, what have you done for me lately?

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And I guess you get hired off
of that. And I just feel

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the other thing I hate is the
thought of I mean, you guys probably

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love Forfeita and what he did down
there. I just think it's so wrong

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if that kid ends up going to
Washington, and he probably will. I

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mean, I don't know what you
guys are hearing about that. But Will

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Rogers transferred in from Mississippi State to
Washington and then he transferred out as soon

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as the border went to Alabama,
and so his status is up in the

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air. So I'm sure. I
mean, there's a position open for fefeed

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if he wanted here in Seattle.
Yeah, we were talking about this before

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you came on as well. Okay, in the landscape of sports in Seattle,

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where does Washington football land? You
know, Steve, I was just

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talking to my co host about that, and it's mostly Seahawks now. It

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used to just be a huge Husky
town and now it's Seahawks, Seahawks,

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Seahawks all the time. The station
I used to work at, we probably

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talked about the Seahawks eighty percent of
the time because I mean, the NFL

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is just so huge that you just
go with that. But I still think,

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you know, the Huskies, especially
in light of what they did this

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season, it's a big deal too
in town. Okay, who are the

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Mariners and the rest of it below
he's laughing, He's laughing really hard.

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No, I mean, the Mariners, the only team in Major League Baseball

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had never been to a World Series, and then the off season that they've

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had with bringing in you know,
a bunch of no namers, you know,

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and everybody's like, well, wait
a minute. You guys said you're

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going to make a big splash in
free agency and in the trading market and

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you and these are the guys you're
bringing in. So yeah, I mean,

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everybody's into the Mariners and keep thinking, Okay, this will be the

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year, this will be the year. But they've been saying that since nineteen

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seventy seven and it hasn't been the
year yet. Okay, good enough?

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Have you heard one way or another? What? Uh? You know?

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Were there other guys ahead of Fish
in line like Lance Leipold, the guy

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had got Kansas? Anybody else?
Uh? You know? What was jetfish

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down the line? Or was he
the guy from the from the get go?

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I you know, I don't know
the answer to that, but I

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would assume that he was the guy
from the get go. I think they

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like what he did this year.
They like his his recruiting ability, He's

408
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.960
got West Coast connections, and he
just seems to me like he was the

409
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.319
guy they were targeting all along.
So wouldn't you see your jet and you're

410
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.440
doing this interview. Well, who's
the who's the ad? The new guy?

411
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.279
He's only been there like five months? Well at Troy Dannon d You

412
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.319
know, if I get this job, I'm going to bring a pretty good

413
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.920
quarterback, a putty good receiver,
and some other guys that are pretty good.

414
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.880
You know, he's saying this.
Oh he had to be oh probably.

415
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.519
You know. It's just I don't
know if it's just me being old

416
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.480
and burned out or whatever. I
think younger people are upset with it too.

417
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.400
Everything that's going on in college football. It just kind of sickens me,

418
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.079
you know. I I just you
know, Caitlin de Born up here,

419
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.359
you know, talking about love for
each other and togetherness and loyalty and

420
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.799
commitment, and then he bails.
And then what I heard that Fish talk

421
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.799
to his players for three minutes or
something, and he was probably saying all

422
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.599
the same crap. And then and
then I heard that he was on Jim

423
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.519
Rome's show and saying, boy,
you know, we're working out this contract

424
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.079
extension. Want to be here for
a long time. Nowhere else I'd rather

425
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.920
be. It's just all a bunch
of crap. Steve, I just you

426
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:17.400
know, I mean, I really
hope, like, Okay, go ahead

427
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:18.319
and take the job, Jed,
you know, if you want. I

428
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.960
don't know how you guys feel about
him coming to Washington, but okay,

429
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.599
go ahead and take that job,
but leave leave the players behind. He

430
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.720
just has some decency about you.
And I know this doesn't work that way.

431
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.559
Come on, man, it's a
business. Don't be naive. You're

432
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.519
listening to probably saying that, who's
this idiot you have on the air from

433
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.720
Seattle doesn't even know how this works? Yeah, I know how it works,

434
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.400
but I don't like it. Right. Well, that's the thing.

435
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.160
Jay talked about this just a week
ago. Two weeks ago, Jetfish was

436
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.119
adored in this town. Now,
I don't know if they have too many

437
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.720
people who like him because of all
that, because of all that say this

438
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.640
and then well it's the same with
Debor here, and you know what the

439
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.319
reason is, Steve, Like if
it was a guy like New Hive or

440
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.920
something like that, where you kind
of go, hey, he's got some

441
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.880
slipperiness to him. I mean,
Caylen de Boor seemed like salt of the

442
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.079
earth, man. I mean,
he just seemed like just a well grounded

443
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.200
guy. And every time he said
something. You thought, man, I'd

444
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.640
like my kid to play for him, and now you find out that he's

445
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.640
like all the rest, and you
just go you throw up your arms and

446
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.480
you go, okay, well,
you know, I don't know what to

447
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.519
say about that anymore, but you're
the same thing here, though. Kaylen

448
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:27.759
de Bor was like, are you
kidding me? They were, you know,

449
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.160
one game away from winning the national
championship, and so everybody adored him

450
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.680
here in Seattle, and then two
days later they're going, what a sellout

451
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.000
he's going to Alabama. Well,
and I think that's what you know was

452
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.240
going on here. Look, you
know, Arizona's got both in flipball and

453
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.440
basketball. You got lude Olsen who
came here. Could have gone a million

454
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.240
places the whole time he was here, and he never did. Dick told

455
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:53.720
me the same thing. Had opportunities, and people thought they possibly had a

456
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:59.079
guy like that in Jed Fish.
Steve and I were saying, don't think

457
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.759
that, because he's not guy.
You know, he's the i'll use the

458
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.160
word carpetbagger, and that's what he's
been his entire career. And he turned

459
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.880
out to be exactly who we thought
he was when he got here despite what

460
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.319
people were hoping he was going to
be that he was going to be the

461
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.160
guy that kind of, as you
say, assault of the Earth guy who

462
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:21.480
was going to stay here and and
and you know, do this. Instead

463
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.960
he be he ended up being who
he was, who we thought he was

464
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.119
when they hired him, and people
were upset when he got hired. To

465
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.319
your point of your column, right, well, pretty much, you know,

466
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.799
I can't wait for this news conference
tomorrow because it's gonna be just you

467
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:38.000
know, one of those where you're
sticking your finger down your throat basically,

468
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.839
because everything that comes out of this
guy's mouth tomorrow will probably be bs.

469
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.680
It'll be something his agent or PR
people tell him to make sure, you

470
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.680
know, he'll say something like,
you know, you guys were one game

471
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.839
away from the national championship this year. We're going to get past that hurdle.

472
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.559
You know. That's the thing we're
gonna work on. We're going to

473
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:02.960
bring a national championship to Seattle.
And then next year he'll be in Gainesville

474
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:04.960
saying the same thing. And what
an honor it is for him to be

475
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.200
the coach at is Alma Modern.
I hate to be so cynical, but

476
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.160
it just it's a hanging curveball,
isn't it. Yeah, it's hard not

477
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.799
to be cynical right now. Yeah, we've got to see it before.

478
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.920
It's like you say, the way
of the world. It's hard not to

479
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.480
be in this profession. Yeah,
I don't know what happened to be along

480
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.920
the way, because I still you
know, I'm a fan. I love

481
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.319
my school, Washington State. But
like people, you know, I saw

482
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.519
some rumors on Twitter going that Jake
Dickert might be a candidate at Arizona,

483
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.519
and then you've got a bunch of
people going, Oh, no, that

484
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.559
won't happen. That's not gonna happen. Dickert just donated fifty thousand dollars to

485
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.319
the Cougar Athletic Fund. He's not
leaving. And I'm going, really,

486
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.680
you really think that our coach isn't
going to go somewhere like at Tucson calls

487
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.880
and goes, hey, come on
down here and we'll have an interview with

488
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.039
you. You don't think that's possible. I mean, he was probably.

489
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:59.519
I think he was after we beat
Wisconsin this year. I think he was

490
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.319
a hot name in the coaching market, and there were rumors that Michigan State

491
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.240
was looking at him rather than Jonathan
Smith at that point. Then we you

492
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.200
know the good thing about losing seven
in a row your coaches in a candidate.

493
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.119
That's true, That's true. J
Jen was nowhere to be found three

494
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.839
months ago. Let me ask you
real quick, because Arizona is going through

495
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.359
a financial crisis, as you know, the university wide and in the It's

496
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.759
like I was reading to Callum today
from somebody maybe the Times, that Washington

497
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.960
is going through some issues too financially. Yeah, they are, and Steve,

498
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.599
I don't know the details on all
of that, but it's not like

499
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.920
they're flush with cash either. They
they wanted to get rid of Mike Hopkins,

500
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.799
the basketball coach for a while now, but felt like they couldn't afford

501
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.599
it. It was more about they
understood that the performance wasn't there from their

502
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.119
coach, but they were like,
well, we can't really afford to get

503
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.880
rid of him. So it's an
issue. But they still manage. I

504
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.240
mean, they were going to give
the board like nine point four million a

505
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:59.279
year for seven years, and I
think they're given what fish like seven and

506
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.720
a half and seven five. It's
they might not be fresh with cash but

507
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.720
they've got enough to throw around at
some of these coaches anyway. Yeah no,

508
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.839
yeah, you know, and and
that and again you know, getting

509
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.279
bad back down to the brass tacks
of it. This is from here on

510
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.599
out and in at least in college
football, major college football and and you

511
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.680
know basketball, this is always going
to be about money. Always, money's

512
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.920
going to rule. And and right
now the Big Ten and the SEC have

513
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.799
the most money, and you know
they're the big dogs, and this is

514
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.559
gonna this is you know what a
situation that you know, Arizona is in

515
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.839
situation that Washington State's going to be
in as whatever develops there with you know,

516
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.400
with them in Oregon State. I
mean, it's always gonna be about

517
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:44.359
the money. And if you're not
in the Big ten and one of the

518
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:50.000
top teams in the Big Ten,
you don't have the money. Now You're

519
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.680
you're absolutely right, But you know, I have a hard time understanding that

520
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.279
just because I mean, Steve,
I mean, I was a sports writer

521
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.119
for thirty years, you know,
and I never was driven by money.

522
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.880
I I mean, if I was
driven by money, I wouldn't have been

523
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.920
a sports writer. I mean I
was making five figures for thirty years,

524
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.639
you know, and so I just
and you know, people when I go

525
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.320
well, you know, if Sports
Illustrated called or Washington Post or the New

526
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.679
York Times, you would have gone
there in a heartbeat. And I'm going,

527
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.119
eh, you know what, I
was perfectly fine at the Seattle Post

528
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.400
Intelligencer. I didn't need to keep
climbing the ladder. I was high enough

529
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.440
up on that damn ladder that I
didn't want to sacrifice you know, quality

530
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.840
and living to go to the East
coast. Right. No, we have

531
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.760
all been there, been there,
done that, Jim as usual. Thank

532
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.000
you very much. Good luck up
there. Well, we'll take a look

533
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.920
at your call him once you're press
punch right there for you know. Okay,

534
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.840
okay, thanks for having me.
Guys, good dear your voice.

535
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.320
See you take care, Jim Moore. It's funny. I mean, he's

536
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.960
right where we are. Yeah,
he's thinking all the same things that we

537
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.559
are. You know, from their
standpoint, you know, losing the boor

538
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.360
you know, yes they yes they
got jet fish and there you know there

539
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.519
but you know, as he said, and as we said that, you

540
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.119
know, fish is a huge risk
for them. Sure he really is.

541
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.119
Sure. Okay, all right,
let's take our break, take a last

542
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.559
take some calls in the last second
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544
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You get a lot of breaking news, with a lot of developments already.

545
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586
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seventy four forty. Let me we
don't have any judkins. Let me ask

587
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:29.159
you questions. I asked you about
jet Fish. What do you know about

588
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.679
Jetfish? What comes to mind?
Well, I I we obviously don't know

589
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.719
what we thought we knew. But
what did you know before or before did

590
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.920
they hired? What were your impressions
of it before all? This good guy?

591
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.159
Yeah, seem it seemed good guy, straightforward guy, kind of a

592
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.559
guy who really was was doing a
good job of kind of understanding what was

593
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:58.519
important to this community and to the
program and the players and the fans and

594
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.519
whatnot. That the guy who you
felt got it about what Arizona is,

595
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.119
all right, and and and he
was using that to you know, to

596
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:12.440
try and build a you know,
a successful program. And he did a

597
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.440
really good job. But when it
comes to me, I'm just gonna say

598
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.440
because I don't, I guess that. But my thing is that he was

599
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.639
a good CEO. CEO. Yeah, that's how he ran it. I

600
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.159
don't know how good of a coach
he is. I really don't, because

601
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.159
he had some pretty good people running
the show too. Yeah, but you

602
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.599
know what he became. I think
he became a really good play caller.

603
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.199
I think he ran really good offense, right, I do have I do

604
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:45.119
I do question question his talent evaluation
because he was going to the mat with

605
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.519
Jaden DeLaura. Yeah, and had
he stuck with that, he wouldn't be

606
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.440
at Washington, right. No,
that's the funny part of it. He

607
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.840
kind of got lucky. He got
very lucky with somebody. He got lucky

608
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.320
like rich Rod got lucky with with
with little Ta you know, brand Brandon

609
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.760
Brandon Dawkins got hurt in a game, A little take came in and that

610
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.639
was that. Yeah, got a
call. Let's take this call. How

611
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.320
you're on the air and I on
the ball. Hey, how's it going

612
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:15.039
today? Good? How are you
man? What's up? Well, it's

613
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.360
not a big surprise. I mean
it's surprised in the sense it wasn't next

614
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.159
year or not this instead of this
year? Is bright? Wait, Brian,

615
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.559
you sound weird? Is that you
Are you sick too? Oh?

616
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:28.440
No, either that or you on
a better phone that they might be that

617
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.880
were you really depressed? No?
No, I mean it's just it's just

618
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.639
the nature of the job now,
that's all it is. Yeah, you

619
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.320
do you fault him? Do you
not? Where do you sit? I

620
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:47.000
don't fault him. I maybe maybe, because uh, just the way football

621
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.000
is now, and it's just the
system what it is, that's all it

622
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.239
is. And we have to understand
the next person we get here, no

623
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.079
matter we go young or we go
old or whatever. Weird just a stepping

624
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.280
stone to the next position. You
know, this is not a top tier

625
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.320
program like everybody seems to when I
think it is. We are just a

626
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.760
average, middle of the road football
program. Did I talk about that with

627
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.440
you, Jay, and you will
agree with you. Brian, Did you

628
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:21.800
think that? Have you thought that
for a long time? Oh? Yeah,

629
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.880
okay, are you real? Yeah? I mean it's just that we

630
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:31.039
didn't think he'd leave after three years. You know, anybody may need you

631
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.760
buying Nick Saban for all this well
was starting the domino. But you also

632
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.639
didn't think that he'd go ten and
three the third year, right, No,

633
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.639
I didn't. I thought he'd want
to. I'm more of a thought

634
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.400
like you thought, said that he
was looking to the Florida job, and

635
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.960
I thought maybe he'd need one more
year to really prove himself because he's going

636
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.159
to have a tough time. I
mean, even if he takes half the

637
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.280
football team with him, he's going
to have a tough time in Washington.

638
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.639
It's not going to be easy because
he's that that program's got it too,

639
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.519
and going into the Big ten next
year is not going to be easy for

640
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.280
him. Yeah. That well,
yeah, and as we were saying earlier,

641
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.440
you know the expectations there. He
has no idea what that's going to

642
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.400
be like because it wasn't the same
as the year right, right, It's

643
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:22.880
gonna be much harder for him up
there, even though he got the nice,

644
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.760
cushy seven year contract. There's a
lot more pressure on him there than

645
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.360
there ever would be here. Yeah, without question, that, without question.

646
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.400
Yeah, yeah, okay, thanks
Brian, no problem. It's a

647
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.000
get well but you you're fine,
So thank you, but I appreciate it.

648
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.440
Ye. Yeah, anybody else want
to call, please do fight two

649
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.360
O four one six seventy four forty. We'll take your call. We got

650
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.800
about ten minutes. How do you
think Gabe's taking this? Oh man?

651
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.960
Yeah, oh Scott, watch your
language you call if you call in uh

652
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.199
but okay, So that's what your
impressions of Jed Well, yeah, yeah,

653
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:08.000
I mean again, I I just
thought he was he he seemed trying

654
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.800
to think he was really genuine and
what he was saying. I was having

655
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.719
a hard time believing he was that
genuine. But I was thinking, like,

656
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.880
he's not showing anything other than he's
showing. You know, what we

657
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.199
see seems genuine. But then it
turns out we all, like I said,

658
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.280
we all, I think we all
got taken for a ride. Yeah,

659
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.559
and I think my I think my
perception of it was similar to that

660
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.920
of Jay's, where I feel like
he did. I thought he did want

661
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.719
to build something within the community before
moving on to his next location. It

662
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.119
didn't seem like he was always destined
maybe for a different location than here,

663
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:42.119
but maybe not so soon. But
you'd have to think that because that's who

664
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.360
he is. Let me put it
this way, Steve, he touched.

665
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.960
He touched all our soft spots,
right he you know, he he figured

666
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.039
out this community pretty quickly. Well, I think, and then and and

667
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.559
he and he poked at all of
those things to get this, you know,

668
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:04.199
this affair going for him, and
then he turned out to be again

669
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.440
who he thought he was coming.
Great segue for my question to you guys.

670
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.239
So you you find this girl,
I'm very attractive, you date her

671
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.119
for three three years or whatever,
and she said, if, if,

672
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.199
if you're gonna have this great time
for three years and this wonderful time,

673
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.960
you fall in love and then she
breaks your heart, would you do it

674
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.599
again? You damn right, you're
gonna do it again. And he he,

675
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:29.360
he found this place and I'm not
defending him. He found this place

676
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.559
at the bottom, at the bottom
bottom and put you guys through a pretty

677
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.679
good ride. Would you do it
again? Well, yeah, so there's

678
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.679
gonna be but but but the thing
is, the thing is though now this

679
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.039
this fan base is gonna be skeptical
of the next guy, right if,

680
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:49.360
if, if, whoever it is, Brent Brennan or the guy from Texas

681
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.039
tore whoever comes in and tries to
sell the I'm here for the long haul

682
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.519
people are gonna say, I don't
want to hear that. It's gonna be

683
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.239
the first question you say. I
want you to tell me that if you

684
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.639
do a great job, you know, nothing's off the table. I bet

685
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:07.480
you ten bucks. Whatever the bucks
in the first six five questions, five

686
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.159
six questions that that question is going
to be brought up. Do you plan

687
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:15.360
on being here a while because you
have to? That's a question that needs

688
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.679
to be asked and what he should
say it, what whoever it is should

689
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.719
say is and what Jed should have
said to Jim Rome when two weeks ago

690
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.960
he said, you know, I
have no you know, I don't want

691
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.159
to be anywhere else to say,
Look, this is a business like any

692
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.559
other business. Guess what. Guess
who asked I'm gonna give you little props

693
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.960
in the back two and a half
months ago, whatever months ago it was,

694
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.119
you asked him, your name is
coming up? And what did he

695
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:43.440
say? Well, when you do
well your name, that happens, and

696
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.960
that's all. That's all. He
would have just kept saying that, people

697
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.639
wouldn't be so upset with him.
I was about to call you, Adam

698
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.480
Stee. If he would have just
kept saying that, right, people wouldn't

699
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.000
be so upset right now. I
was going to but he two weeks ago

700
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.920
he said, I'm here to stay, and that's why people are upset.

701
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:06.039
How much of the anger do you
too think is on social media? Because

702
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:07.400
of the way in which it happened. It happened so fast. He had

703
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.960
he built a lot of trust in
the community, and I think I have

704
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.000
a lot of fans finally had bought
in. Look, there's never a good

705
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.280
way to leave when in this kind
of a situation, and in fact,

706
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.920
it's almost better. It's like,
okay, just just you know, cut

707
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.920
my hand off and bandage it up
and let's go. You know, it's

708
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.559
like, just just hit me hard
so I can get past it. And

709
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.039
so you know, if this would
have stretched for a week or yeah,

710
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:36.119
four days, people would I think
it would have been worse. But going

711
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.320
back to Stee's point, and I
guess, and you know we've gone in

712
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.920
circles around this, but if you
just would have kept saying, look,

713
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.639
you know, my name's going to
keep coming up. And even if he

714
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.199
said, look, I owe it
to my family to always check things out,

715
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.039
wouldn't you put it back on us. Didn't every one of you in

716
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.320
this room, you know, if
it's media or whatever, every one of

717
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.239
you in this room, if somebody, if some much better job came came

718
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.199
looking for you, wouldn't you at
least look at it. I think people

719
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.880
would have respected that. In fact, he did the opposite. He did

720
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.599
the opposite. He said, I'm
not going anywhere. I can't move again.

721
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.480
I move. I'm not going anywhere. You know, I owe it

722
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.360
to my family and my kids to
stay here because they've moved all over the

723
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.840
place with me. Well you obviously
through the finger of your family too,

724
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:23.599
you know, I mean that that
that and that's what's got people upset.

725
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:29.800
To me, if from the time
that they started winning games and his name

726
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.159
started popping up for jobs, if
he would have just gone with the look,

727
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.679
you know what, I'm just not
going to even talk about it or

728
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.760
deal with it. And so what
if people say, oh, he's looking,

729
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:44.880
so what he's looking? Who who? Who would think he didn't have

730
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.400
the right It's part of the job, and it's part of the job.

731
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.320
And if you do well, guess
what it's gonna happen, right and and

732
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.559
and again, you know from Stephen, we've been saying that, you know

733
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:59.039
how many times that you know,
Arizona is what what did Jim Moore saying,

734
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:07.400
Arizona's not a destination? Well not, it's for oh bright, Arizona's

735
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.400
not a destination. It never will
be a destination for football ever, ever,

736
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.519
ever, ever, ever, even
if j even if jed It's take

737
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.880
a special kind of person for it
to be a destination for like a Dick

738
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.280
Tomy. And I think people really
wanted Jet Jed to be the next Dick

739
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.159
Tomy here and and you know what, you looked a history that was never

740
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:31.800
gonna happen to happen. Well,
you know, I think you were in

741
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.639
the room when Greg came into town
and became the a D. And he

742
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.079
had all these projects blah blah blah, And we asked he was the guy

743
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.519
who was a climber. Yeah,
it was very apparent. And who set

744
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:51.119
all this up? Talking about another
guy who took another hit in this town.

745
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.920
That's not his fault. His coach
retired and you got to do your

746
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.480
job. He had, he had
to go get the best guy that he

747
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.199
needed. Look, and I don't
blame any of those guys. Do I

748
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:06.000
blame the Washington a D for this
is a non blame even with Jed.

749
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.119
You you can't blame Jed for doing
this, taking the job. It's just

750
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.079
the way it the way it came
out, the way it came about,

751
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.360
that's what's That's what Gods people,
I'm not upset that he left. I'm

752
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:22.960
upset that the part of me that's
upset about this is upset because of it.

753
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.440
You know, you don't come and
sell us something and then do something

754
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.039
else. And that's the and part
of that is the window of saying that

755
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.960
you're not This is the window of
saying, yesterday you said you loved me.

756
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.840
Well, you know it said that
about you, it's about me,

757
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.000
you know whatever? Whatever, No, I I you know, look,

758
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.360
we can we can keep going going
around in circle. I'll tell you who

759
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:53.199
this is taking the pressure off of
Tommy here. I will talk about that

760
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.360
more next hour. Because the basketball
team has its own issues, which and

761
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.199
of course for me or may not
see some change. Just hey, why

762
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.079
not stir it up a little because
right now you're seeing a mediocre team.

763
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.679
Yeah, and well, and as
Tommy Light said, we're average. So

764
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.639
this is He said this in the
postgame radio at least, And we talked

765
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.000
about this last week because I asked
him about this with with with Caleb,

766
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.679
not Caleb, but with Boswell,
you know, wasn't it glad to see

767
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.039
him come out? He says,
well, listen, guys, he's only

768
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.440
eighteen. And then we said,
I said to you the same question.

769
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.760
I said, he's no longer eighteen. He's eighteen, but he's got forty

770
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.320
some games behind it. There's eighteen
year olds and there's forty game eighteen year

771
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.599
olds and now he's back to and
he called him out that he needs to

772
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.679
figure out. So either he is
or he's not, or he's not.

773
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.000
And that's from the coach's mouth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

774
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.639
that was that. That was a
frustrating game to watch. And again one

775
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.840
of those games too where you know, pretty early on in the first before

776
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.360
the first media time out, I
thought, oh no, this is looking

777
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.360
like one of those games. Yeah, just the way, just the way

778
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.360
it looked physically, the way it
looks this is this is a game that

779
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.960
they could lose, they could do
so and and and they did, and

780
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.559
they did and then the DIA Barnes
didn't have a good weekend either, you

781
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.280
know, close but close, but
well that that game against Oregon State that

782
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.079
they butchered the hell out of that. You know, if they'd gotten and

783
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.719
gotten split up there, that would
have been incredible for them. They butchered

784
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.199
the first We have a minute left, so we'll talk about this later on

785
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.360
the other side. But just the
state of the program now, we'll talk

786
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.800
more about that, because it was
pretty good. I had. I had

787
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.559
some say it's in disarret, we'll
go there, and I try to say

788
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.760
it's not really, but okay,
I can see why you think that means.

789
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.920
Right, take the break and we'll
come back and talk about that.

790
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.880
Yes, yea, So stick around, and we've got we do have Anthony

791
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.480
Gimino, uh from Phoenix Sports coming
in, uh long time beat right for

792
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:52.079
football, so we'll get his take
on off the jet fish stuffs. So

793
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:52.639
stick around.