WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:19.480 Thank you for listening to Depictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights, 2 00:00:21.079 --> 00:01:00.439 the show about the government policy and human rights. Welcome back everybody. You 3 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.400 know, I get up in the morning and you know, I just want 4 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:08.000 to have the best day ever in my life. I just want each day 5 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:14.400 to be a little bit better than the next, than than the day before. 6 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:21.719 Just keep you know, the rhythm going that I keep building on better 7 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:26.359 and better days. And I like to see really cool stuff happen in my 8 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:34.159 lifetime and see see people really coming together and doing things well. One of 9 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:41.239 the things is I believe in customer experience and customer service, where your customer 10 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:47.439 service has to enhance that customer experience, make that customer feel like, hey, 11 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:55.280 I really got weighted on, and that they feel comfortable with your business 12 00:01:55.560 --> 00:02:02.760 and how your business actually operates well they're well. In the next serve, 13 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:07.080 we're gonna be talking about Krispy Kreme, and one day is actually kind of 14 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:16.280 local to where my office is. And there's probably some controversy around actually Krispy 15 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:24.520 Kreme because hey, they took a small shop, that small donut shop that 16 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:32.360 was in developed in Georgia and it eventually becomes this huge corporate conglomerate sort of 17 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:38.080 thing, and you know how we talk about corporate greed and things like that. 18 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:45.879 But I don't want you to focus on who they are, on Christopy 19 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:51.520 Cremes a corporation. I want you to focus on Kurtspy Kreme as this local 20 00:02:51.639 --> 00:03:00.639 donut shop and what happened. So here goes the story. This morning, 21 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:07.360 I I got up and I had an appointment to go get the family vehicle 22 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:15.319 service and it and drove it up there, had conversations and talked to my 23 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.520 niece about what's going on in her life and how hey, maybe her uncle 24 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:24.280 can help her out with a couple of things. The truck was was done 25 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.280 within a half hour, jumped in the paid the bill, jumped in the 26 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:40.800 truck and had a craving four apple fritters, and I clicked the bluetooth on 27 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:49.400 the truck and call call my wife and I say, hey, would you 28 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:53.479 like some Chrispy Kreames today? Were I can like loop back around again and 29 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.039 I can go over to Krispy Kremes and get some apple fritters? Would you 30 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.280 like some? And she says yes, she would loved the has no apple 31 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.360 fritters because it was still early enough in the morning that we hadn't actually had 32 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:13.919 breakfast yet. So loop around go over to the Christmy Kreme and they because 33 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.839 at the time of the day, they place is pretty much so empty. 34 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:21.959 I'm the only customer in there. So I go in and I order six 35 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:30.000 apple fritters. And at first the the young lady behind the counter, she 36 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.360 didn't hear me right, and she thought that I needed to put still pick 37 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.519 out my donuts. I said no, no. I leaned in a little 38 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:41.639 closer and I said no, I wanted six apple fritters, please, And 39 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.120 she went went to work on it. And I noticed right off that she 40 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.639 was a new employee, and I said to the girl who was standing at 41 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:57.399 the register, I said, she's she's new. It's like her one of 42 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.360 her first days. And she said, yes, I see. This is 43 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.240 cool because we all get to be new sometime and it's a new experience. 44 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:10.120 You know, Hey, I'm helping helping a customer. And she was so 45 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:15.240 eager and happy to do so, which a lot of times that my wife 46 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:26.600 and I we talked about how new newcomers to the to their workplace aren't always 47 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:34.800 so happy to serve serve people they think that there is some kind of entitlement 48 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:41.560 that they should have and they don't always just kind of jump in there and 49 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:54.879 want to help people, so choose this. This young lady was really eager 50 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:01.560 to be able to help people and to jump in there and actually, you 51 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:09.480 know, grab these six apple fritters. I mean it's small, but it's 52 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:16.480 big at the same time. So I paid the bill and I'm waiting for 53 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.920 the apple figures to come and I noticed it. By this time, the 54 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:27.000 manager of the shop, or the shift manager, had showed up and was 55 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.120 helping out the other young lady who was ringing me out with the whole transaction 56 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.639 to make sure they was done right, because hey, she appeared to be 57 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:44.800 kind of new on register. And the other the other young lady putting the 58 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.279 the apple fritters into the box. She was having a little struggle with the 59 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:54.480 box and everything, and the manager reached over and started helping her. She 60 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:59.879 didn't get pushy about it, she just offered some guidance, and I know 61 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:08.680 that the box changed that she wouldn't the manager wouldn't grabbed a new box and 62 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:15.879 she tossed the other box away. Okay, so climate change and all that 63 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.920 kind of stuff, we can't just throw away paper, right, but hey, 64 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:27.000 let's just go with it with the idea that she's making sure that as 65 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:32.040 she's training her employees or the employees that are directly underneath her, that they 66 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:41.519 do quality work and that they put their best foot forward. So I get 67 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:49.560 the box of donuts and the six apple fritters and I say to the manager, 68 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:53.879 Hey, that was really cool what you actually just did. It's like 69 00:07:54.079 --> 00:08:03.160 you helped her learn how to put the best donuts forward. And she's and 70 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:18.079 and with that, the manager said to me that the box wasn't was it 71 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.600 was was a little crumpled, and she said, hey, and there's not. 72 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.319 It's not like we're in a rush or anything like that, and which 73 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.160 is true. I wasn't in a rush. It's like, hey, I 74 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.759 was just grabbing something on the head on back to my home office and enjoy 75 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.720 a little breakfast with my wife. Right, So, no real rush. 76 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.039 Had lots of time before her appointments and start recording. Hey, great stories, 77 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:54.480 right, okay, So we I said to her, I said, 78 00:08:54.720 --> 00:09:00.480 it's really cool to see people actually teaching people to take their time to put 79 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.639 their best out there, and that you didn't get pushy about it. You 80 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:15.080 actually offer guidance, and you still allowed her to actually put the apple fitters 81 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:20.600 or donuts themselves in the box herself, and you just walked her through the 82 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:26.200 process so that she could close the box up. And the box look it's 83 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.759 like a Krispy Green box. It didn't look crumpled or anything like. It 84 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:35.679 was the perfect Chrispykreen box that everybody would know and see whenever you walk out 85 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:43.000 of their shop. So it's really cool to see people actually not get pushy 86 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:50.080 about things but make sure that they're guiding people to do their best, guiding 87 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.159 people so that they will always shine. And that's the whole point of the 88 00:09:54.279 --> 00:10:03.399 story is how do we help people shine? How do we help them put 89 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.879 their best food forward? How do we help them feel dignified in everything that 90 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:15.200 they do. It's something that we all need to work for and work towards 91 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:24.320 so that we can always help people put their best food forward. So, 92 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.919 depending on where you're actually finding this story, if you're finding it as part 93 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:39.519 of a podcast on policy and rights or on inspiring stories that, depending on 94 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.440 how you find it, find a way to make a comment and leave a 95 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.399 comment. If you're finding it as a blog post or as a LinkedIn post 96 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.679 or something like that. Hey, it's pretty obvious. Just click below and 97 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:58.960 please do put a comment what you think is a great customer service and how 98 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:05.960 you can help others people shine just because you're serving. Hey, thanks a 99 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:11.480 lot for listening, and hey, let's let's get back to whatever the regular 100 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:20.039 programming would be. So our next segment where we're going to hear Daniel Smith, 101 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:26.759 the premiere of Alberta as she is disgusting what the fossil fuel energy is 102 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.879 trying to do to help climate change. She's going to talk to you about 103 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:45.360 different ways that the carbon that is produced through fossil fuels, One that it 104 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.799 can be captured and once it is captured, especially the CEO two, once 105 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.679 it's captured, it can be used to strengthen things like rebar, it can 106 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.120 be used to strengthen concrete, and there's a lot of uses for it, 107 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:07.279 and she wants to discuss those uses as well as the capture of the of 108 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:16.080 that carbon and inform of COEO two, she's also going to talk about things 109 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:24.440 like fuel cells, hydrogen fuel cells, and she's talking about building cars with 110 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:31.080 hydrogen fuel cells, which maybe maybe a little more viable than some of the 111 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:37.600 things that we are hearing about. Well, well, how in the Congo 112 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.200 the where they are actually mining a lot of lithium, and how the uprisings 113 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:50.440 in Central Africa are affecting that mining and what is actually going on that is 114 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.440 causing these uprisings. What are the mining companies doing or not doing for the 115 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:05.399 people in those areas that are causing uprisings and people that want to or speaking 116 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:11.840 not only speaking out, but they are shooting out against what these mining companies 117 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:18.080 are doing. A lot of people aren't talking about it's that people are trying 118 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.120 to rebel against the mining companies. They're just saying that they're rebelling against the 119 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.120 government. But in a lot of respects, maybe the government is taking the 120 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:33.440 money from the mining companies and not giving back to the people. So why 121 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:39.759 don't we listen to what Daniel Smith has to say and some of her rebuttals 122 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:50.159 against the environmental minister that who was also at this particular conference and had an 123 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.320 opportunity to speak. So why don't we move on and let's listen to what 124 00:13:54.840 --> 00:14:05.679 Daniel Smith had to say and this conference. I'll just be very brief. 125 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.559 Thanks for that. Sam I'm just so delighted to be part of the delegation 126 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.120 welcoming the world to Alberta. I think this is a really exciting conference, 127 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.879 an exciting theme about how to achieve carbon neutrality by twenty fifty. I found 128 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.039 already with many of the speakers, although not all, that we are very 129 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.639 much in sync with the pathway and with some of the new innovations that are 130 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:33.080 going to happen to get there. Had a fantastic opportunity to toward the Saudi 131 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.639 Arabian pavilion and look at all of the amazing new developments that they have on 132 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.600 how to capture and sequestrac too and turn it into useful products. So I 133 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.759 think you're going to see a race between Alberta and some of these other jurisdictions 134 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.639 to make sure we can adopt the same technologies. And as I mentioned in 135 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:54.080 my speech last night, and I think this bears repeating over and over again, 136 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.679 that this whole enterprise you started on is a pathway to reduce emissions. 137 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.399 We are transitioning away from emissions, We're not transitioning away from oil and natural 138 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.840 gas. So with that, I'd be happy to take any questions. Yeah, 139 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.200 kind of person down. We can also raise hands. I'll go with 140 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:18.720 you shuffles the Western standard. I don't know if you set in on mister 141 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.919 Master's presentation this morning. I did, and he was talking about potentially dangerous 142 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.240 energy transition, and I'm wondering what on some of your thoughts were, and 143 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.759 maybe Holler applies here. Well. I think that what I liked about what 144 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.639 he had to say was talking about how we have to make sure that as 145 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:45.080 we're transitioning, we're also keeping an eye on affordability and reliability. I mean, 146 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:50.279 we have a lot of disruption that happens in the world when people feel 147 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.879 economically insecure, and so I think he was just commenting on some of the 148 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.679 things that we've seen in the past, and that you have to build out 149 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.639 the new energy system at the same time as maintaining the existing energy system so 150 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.320 that you have that continuity. And I think he's very pragmatic. I think 151 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.759 it's very much along a line to what we would like to see having an 152 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:17.360 aggressive target of getting to twenty fifty. That is aggressive, and it doesn't 153 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.759 mean that you can't have milestones along the way. But I think his caution 154 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.000 was to make sure that we put people first, and that we care about 155 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:27.799 people and that we're very mindful of energy poverty and the kind of turmoil that 156 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:33.039 can cause if we're not mindful of them. And I agree with him and 157 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:37.879 with respect to your marks at the opening ceremony yesterday about we don't want to 158 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:44.240 be like Germany can It was just someone just shared with me another story today 159 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.840 about how Germany is turning a wind farm, decommissioning a wind farm so that 160 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.240 they can recommission a coal plant. And that's what happens when you end up 161 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:57.519 making a decision to move faster than the technology is able to keep up energy 162 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:03.159 security and affordable. Is the imperative of governments to make sure that they can 163 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.559 maintain. And what we don't want to see is that because we're looking for 164 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.039 a perfect solution, that we're not looking at what the transition needs to be. 165 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.759 And the transition has to involve LG, has to involve natural gas. 166 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.240 We can continue to work towards better and better carbon capture technology. But when 167 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.480 I talk to those who are looking forward for that transition and looking for Canada 168 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.079 to play a role in exporting LENG, they're very clear with me that if 169 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.960 we don't do our part, and they can't get that secure supply of natural 170 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.200 gas, they're going to recommission coal plants, and if that happens, that 171 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.240 increases global emissions, and I think that that moves us backwards. So we 172 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.519 don't want to be in the position that Germany is where they have to take 173 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:49.000 a U turn because they didn't end up with the reliability and affordability being front 174 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:56.720 and center. So I don't want to jump from the is the only emissions 175 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.440 cat Obviously that's something that's very much front of the stander here. What is 176 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.920 that going to want to see at that? You know Willminson saying we'll probably 177 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.960 have something more money end of the year. What are those negotiations look like, 178 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.119 spart You, Well, we have an eight to twelve month time frame 179 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.680 and I don't want to pre judge what the outcome would be. I mean, 180 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.480 keep in mind, we already do have an emissions cap and albert On 181 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:21.599 Oil sends it's one hundred mega tons and it was a generous cap because I 182 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.079 think there was a recognition that the industry was going to keep on working on 183 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.720 reducing emissions. I mean, if we're all working towards carbon neutrality by twenty 184 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.359 fifty. My view is we don't actually need an emissions cap. My view 185 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.440 is that we should be working towards carbon neutrality by twenty fifty and figuring out 186 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.640 what those batement curves look like for each industry. Some industries are going to 187 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.599 get there faster than others. And putting arbitrary in targets in place before talking 188 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.000 to industry and doing that modeling, that seems to be a bit premature. 189 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:53.559 So I'm hopeful that we don't see and I've sent this to our federal counterparts, 190 00:18:55.119 --> 00:19:00.680 is they keep on threatening things like the clean electricity reggs making having those 191 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.000 implemented, the oil and natural gas emissions cap, a methane target that is 192 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.160 aggressive. Those are all things that have to be negotiated, and if they 193 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:14.480 were to come through with those policies while we're at the table, we would 194 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.359 look at that as a negotiating and bad faith. We don't want that. 195 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.279 And just that one of my colleagues send me a question on equal Idea, 196 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.519 whether or not you'll commit to a public inquiry and why do you think person 197 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.240 Manning is the a perfect vest that I would see any kind of review of 198 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:33.799 the Public Health activing name starts background with my public health experience, well, 199 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.640 a couple of things. Yes, I have committed to do a review. 200 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:41.240 I'm not quite sure what form that will take just yet. I want to 201 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:45.799 make sure that we've gotten through the worst of the crisis. I'm a very 202 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:51.519 relieved to see that the number of hospitalizations have gone down from twelve to nine, 203 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.880 and the number of kids on dialysis is going down from four to three, 204 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:57.559 and the cases appear to be stabilizing. I believe we're at three hundred 205 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:02.440 and forty eight today, so we're at a point very soon or we'll be 206 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.000 able to shift into looking at that review. So, yes, I have 207 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:08.319 committed to that and we will do one. I had asked Preston Manning to 208 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:15.000 look at the full range of legal changes that might be necessary in looking at 209 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:21.480 what the next pandemic response should be, and so Public Health Act is one 210 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.359 part of it, but there's a think about submarying other pieces of legislation that 211 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:32.599 he is looking at. Good good morning, good afternoon, Premier. You 212 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.799 often talk about how you know albert is advancing its position on oil and gas, 213 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.920 and you know things are going not that badly, but oftentimes Albertons and 214 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.599 Canadians see that there's a lot of evidence perhaps to the contrary that keeps arising, 215 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:55.240 whether it's comments made by the Minister for Climate Change or in the case 216 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:59.119 of the Minister of Natural Resources comments a day last night, which you definitely 217 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.839 is very strong you took objection to. So where are we really at when 218 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.559 on the one hand you are saying you're bargaining good faith, appreciating your faith 219 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.319 and everything's you know, we're going to try to get things ironed out, 220 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:17.319 and incessantly we keep on getting these disagreements along the way as to what's actually 221 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.359 happening and where it's all go an end up. Where I think we agree 222 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:26.400 is carbon neutrality by twenty fifty. Where we disagree is what the milestone should 223 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.440 be along the way. And you know, I appreciate that there does need 224 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.039 to be some demonstration that we're moving in the right direction. I think we 225 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:40.119 have demonstrated that the conversion from cold and natural gas resulted in I think it 226 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:45.839 was twenty two makeing tons of emissions reduction. The aggressive targets that we set 227 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:49.400 to reduce methane emissions, we've we've achieved that target of forty five percent emissions 228 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:55.799 reduction. So we've also been the first too to put carbon pricing on industrial 229 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.920 emissions. That was done back in twenty seven. We also have at scale 230 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:07.160 projects for carbon captualization and storage that are working. We've got the carbon trunkline, 231 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.160 We've got major industrial players that are talking about their pathway to get to 232 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.359 NANT zero. So I feel like we are demonstrating that we are taking those 233 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.599 steps, and it's a matter I think of getting the federal government to acknowledge 234 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.319 that that that's progress. And there's there's just certain things we have to work 235 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.119 with the federal government on. I know that the Prime Minister is very keen 236 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.640 on the issue of small module or nuclear, and I'm keen to work with 237 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.240 him on that too. But we've never had nuclear in this province, so 238 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:38.960 that requires broad based consultation, it requires figuring out the regulatory pathway for that. 239 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:44.440 Most of the existing sites were approved with an environmental pervent decades ago and 240 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.880 the world has changed quite a bit, so we can move as fast as 241 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.400 they can move, as long as we have some if as long as we're 242 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.920 in sync on wanting to get the regulation streamline. But we recognize we have 243 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.680 to make progress. I think if We're focused on twenty fifty and then if 244 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.400 we can get the regulations in sync, I think we'll be able to carve 245 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.640 out those abatement curves and come to an agreement. If if you can't get 246 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:12.319 those regulations and sake and that's hypothetical, but given the evidence, it's it 247 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:18.480 could be a stronger than weaker hypothetical is your government. We've made comments in 248 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.400 the past, including I remember at the after the meeting with the Prime Minister, 249 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:27.119 True got to Stampede is are you going to stand firm in Alberta's position 250 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:33.519 on the twenty thirty five and on the emissions cap? And secondarily, do 251 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.160 you think it's helpful the comments that are coming out of federal cabinet Minister Sir 252 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.480 I was then I don't know if anyone was in the room last night, 253 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:47.480 but led balloon might describe the way the energy ministers on the Natural resources ministers 254 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:52.759 comments went over to come to a major energy conference and international energy conference with 255 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:57.680 people from all different backgrounds, many of them facing energy poverty in their own 256 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:03.759 countries, and talking to producers about the ludicrous i EA projections that were only 257 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:08.519 going to have twenty five million barrels of oil per day produced in twenty fifty. 258 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.200 I mean it was a bit of a slap in the face, let's 259 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.559 be frank about that. And that's why I had to indicate that I don't 260 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.319 I don't believe that those projections are accurate. I was pleased to see, 261 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.200 actually, but they had a Saudi Saudi Ramco also said the same thing that 262 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:29.839 the company are the IDA has turned from being an entity that does predictions to 263 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:34.079 being one that engages in political advocacy, and that isn't I don't think that 264 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:40.599 that's very helpful to the discussion. So my view is that we have an 265 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:45.559 obligation to address issues of energy poverty, and that includes in our own province. 266 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.720 When I hear and see what happens to our seniors and are vulnerable and 267 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:53.480 are fixed income individuals in January February March, when you have not only spike 268 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:57.440 in heating home heating prices, but a spike in power or prices, we 269 00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:02.359 can't allow that to continue. We've looked at this, at the numbers, 270 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:07.880 and if we were to just allow for the natural capital turnover would be ninety 271 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.720 two billion dollars by twenty fifty. If we were trying to compress that. 272 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.480 Not only would it cost that ninety two billion, it would it cost an 273 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.880 additional fifty two billion to be able to achieve that goal within the next thirteen 274 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.640 years, and that could be anywhere from two to five times increasing the cost 275 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:27.759 of electricity. That's just not affordable, not attainable, and we should be 276 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.799 mindful that when you end up with that kind of hardship that you're putting on 277 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.920 our most vulnerable citizens, there's going to be a backlash. So if we 278 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.119 can avoid then have a longer time frame allow for the technology to develop, 279 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.400 that seems to me to be the right pathway. So, yes, we're 280 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.319 going to stand firm we cannot do net zero power grid by twenty thirty five. 281 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.599 We think we can buy twenty fifty. Some of our producers say it 282 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.400 can be done by twenty forty five, So there might be some room for 283 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.200 negotiation and discussion there, but we have to have every one of our decisions 284 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.599 based in reality and the emissions cap Again, as I mentioned, we already 285 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.720 have an emissions cath on the oil sands, and the oil sands have responded 286 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.160 to that they have a pathway to be net zero by twenty fifty as well. 287 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:14.119 Now chemical is going to a petrochemical plant when they get to final investment 288 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:19.200 decision. That's net zero air products, is net zero hydrogen. The Heidelberg 289 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:23.599 is going to have the first net zero cement plant in the world as well. 290 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.200 And when you hear with the cement being the second most used commodity behind 291 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.519 water in the world, that's significant to be able to have that kind of 292 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.759 engineering and pioneering innovation happening at Alberta. That's what we should be celebrating. 293 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.960 Okay, we're going to go to christ next and always asking his questions, 294 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.240 Can I just get a hands up for those questions as well? Prettier the 295 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.880 mensined here that you obviously have a disagree to Minister wilkinson speech. Well, 296 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.759 what specifically did you disagree with? What? Why did you say or why 297 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.680 are you describing there's a slab in the face. Well, I can tell 298 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.640 you the number of people who walked up to me after he had spoken to 299 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.599 see if I had steam coming out of my ears. That was a one 300 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.920 indication I can tell you. My cabinet was very unhappy with the comments that 301 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.799 were made and members of council were unhappy with the comments that were made as 302 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:21.880 well, because I think what he was toned off too is the amount of 303 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:26.920 work that's been done by our industry to align with the carbon neutral target and 304 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:32.079 to essentially act as if the industry was winding down, and that is not 305 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.599 the case. That's why I had to counter his message. This is not 306 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.440 an industry that's winding down. It's an industry that's transitioning away from emissions. 307 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.400 And the fact that we saw other speakers talking about in the same in the 308 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.920 same terms suggested me that it was Minister Wilkinson who was offside on it. 309 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.680 Just to follow up in this is a bit of a two part we're gonna 310 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.440 s Can you tell me is this really the appropriate place on an international state 311 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.240 for the federal government of the provincial government speaks to us an energy policy. 312 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.319 That's definitely question. The second one is I saw or I heard that you 313 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.240 had a conversation with this AUDI energy noise or can I ask you what you 314 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:11.000 discussed them to the common ground is with Discovery. Well, I don't like 315 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.240 to fight with the FED my federal counterparts, but I'm not going to allow 316 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.680 them to take swipes at our industry and have a go unanswered and talking about 317 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.000 this industry winding down, being on its last legs, only having twenty five 318 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.519 million barrels a day of production by twenty fifty at a time when everybody's here 319 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:37.279 to celebrate production and investment and we're trying to make Canada an investment magnet I 320 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.200 would say that was the wrong place for him to make that speech, and 321 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:47.160 I had to give people some optimism and enthusiasm that we are going to be 322 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:51.640 able to work together to get to to common targets. So I think I 323 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.680 had to counter his comments because I think he left a pretty I think I 324 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.759 think the room was pretty gloomy respoke, and I don't think there's anything to 325 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.960 be gloomy about it at all with this industry. I did speak to the 326 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.000 Saudi Energy Minister. I had a chance to meet him this morning when he 327 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.160 flew in, and we've had One of the things that I noticed about the 328 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:17.920 pavilion is they're being very progressive on what they can do with captured CO two 329 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.440 to turn it into useful products. They have a product if I encourage all 330 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:27.319 of you to go over there, because they're using a CO two to create 331 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.720 a product that can be a replacement for rebar. They have a number of 332 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.880 different plastic pipes that they can use. They're doing a cootwo embedded in cement 333 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.880 to be able to make stronger concrete, and they're also got a combustion engine 334 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.319 hydrogen vehicle that they're working on as well. So I feel like we're going 335 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.200 to be in a bit of a technological and innovation race with Saudi Arabia. 336 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.759 And I think we heard that from the Energy this Minister this morning. He 337 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:57.359 intends to lead the world in this and he is challenging the rest of us 338 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.799 to keep up, and Alberta wants to keep up. So I think that 339 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.240 there's going to be a lot of information sharing as we moved towards a carbon 340 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:10.839 neutral target. That's our front left here for yes, Yeah, I know 341 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.480 this kind of relates to the industry and federal government, but there's like a 342 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:21.160 lot of negotiation right now going on, and we'regarding the degree of tax credit 343 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.839 subsidies for carbon capture. But we're hearing that, you know, by that 344 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.799 that they've got to get this thing going by the beginning of the year where 345 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.240 they're not even going to beat their own targets. I'm wondering if the province 346 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:36.240 doing anything, is it? What are you doing to try to part as 347 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.359 a loner? Well, I have mentioned that we're working on our own credit 348 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.160 for carbon capture, utilization and storage, similar but structure perhaps a little bit 349 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.319 differently than our Alberta petrochemical incentive program, and I want to be able to 350 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.599 announce what the details of that are when I go to divining for COP twenty 351 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.599 eight. So we're we accept that that timeline is accelerated, and we're hoping 352 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.160 that the federal government will be to match us so that we can make a 353 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:07.119 joint announcement together in Dubai. Nope this year. Yeah, sorry, that's 354 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.599 going to be I'll be traveling there in November thirtieth, so it's the first 355 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:17.480 week in December. I'll be there or bringier. There are plenty of other 356 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.880 forecasters in the IA who are calling pegyl demand in the next five to ten 357 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.079 years. What if you're wrong there? Al me, Well, I guess 358 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.799 the way I look at it is, I like what the energy minister had 359 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.240 to say. This is the Saudi energy minister had to say this morning. 360 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.319 You've got to you've got to live in the real world, not on computer 361 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.640 models. And he actually challenged the group to find a single time that the 362 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.519 idea has had a single projection that has been correct. So I think it 363 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.680 takes a leap of faith to think that if they've never been correct, that 364 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.720 they will be correct by twenty fifty. We've got to respond to the world 365 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.640 as it is. And I think he also was being quite responsible in saying 366 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.200 that's part of the reason why they already did production cut is that there were 367 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.960 predictions last year about how China was just going to raise ahead onto the COVID 368 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.559 restriction were lifted. Well turned out not to be the case, and his 369 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:14.440 advice was you take a measure of prudence so that you don't end up creating 370 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.920 disruption and instability in the markets, and then you can always increase. And 371 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.279 so I think that that kind of approach actually is a lot more practical than 372 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:28.519 trying to rely on predictions from what has become increasingly unfortunately a political activist organization 373 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.680 and Yeah, sign Effect just the other day called for eat gasoline demand in 374 00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.240 China at the end of this year. E eaesel demand at the end of 375 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:45.039 twenty twenty five. We've got Bloomberg and the app calling for road transport demand 376 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:51.119 by twenty twenty six, and it's global, I is not just the IA. 377 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.720 And you've got the Chamber of Conference here and Calgary saying that the energy 378 00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:00.440 transition is an existential crisis for the Alberta oil and gas. Are you listening 379 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.680 to other voices? I would say one of the things I'm encouraged by is 380 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.440 the same thing that the Saudi Energy Minister is encouraged by. All the ways 381 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:13.480 in which you can use the product for different ants. I mean, they're 382 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:19.319 talking about right now having two million barrels a day being used for alternative product 383 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:24.839 products including lubricants, competro chemicals, and construction materials, and they're anticipating that's 384 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.480 a double So they're anticipating that as the amount of gasoline and diesel demand declines, 385 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:37.039 those replace that with non combustion uses of their product. And we should 386 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.599 be taking the same attitude as well. If we can use natural gas and 387 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:46.599 oil to be able to create construction materials, harder cement replacement for rebar why 388 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.240 why wouldn't we do that? That That's how I'm looking at it, is 389 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.240 that we're not going to phase out production of oil and natural gas. We're 390 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:58.119 just going to change the way in which you can use it in our in 391 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.240 our province, hydrogen is very likely going to be an increasingly important fuel that 392 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:07.359 comes from natural gas as its base carbon capture, utilization, and storage. 393 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.920 We'll be able to assist in that development. That's where I think we're going 394 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.960 to end up going here. Hydrogen is also possible to be used for now 395 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:21.119 for for power plants. I think that's going to be a positive use also. 396 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.000 And when you look at the supply for asphalt, I mean I've seen 397 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:30.119 some projections that we have the potential to increase our bitumen for use as asphalt 398 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.760 up to five million barrels per day. So whether you're driving a combustion engine 399 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.199 vehicle or a hydrogen combustion engine vehicle, or a fuel cell vehicle, or 400 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.960 maybe you're going to need roads to drive on. So those are the things 401 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.360 that I am looking at. Is I don't think that the need for our 402 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.639 products is going to diminish. I just think it's going to change. We'll 403 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.559 go to the collective factor collect north taking press. Just back to the Equal 404 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.320 I break. We now have about seven other facilities that have been either closed 405 00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.119 or personally closed due to this outbreak. What do you know about that so 406 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.519 far in terms of how they relate to these other cases. And I'll just 407 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.679 ask my second question as well, how does the provincial program to give a 408 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.119 one time rain raise and apply to those parents. There's a couple of things. 409 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:22.519 I'd say. The the secondary closures are related to having children interacting with 410 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.280 each other. So all of them, as I understand it, have had 411 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.719 some close contact with the child who was impact or affected, or it was 412 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.920 a child who was at one of the original facilities who got moved into one 413 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.559 of the new facilities. So that's why we're telling parents is just make sure 414 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.000 that you keep your kids at home if they're sick, and make sure that 415 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.320 you go through the process of getting the clearance before having a return. I 416 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.320 think we're now at six hundred and forty two kids who are cleared to return, 417 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.679 and so we'll go through that process. We'll have a lot more who 418 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:59.239 were cleared to return in the coming weeks. The one time payment was designed 419 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:05.960 to be for those first eleven schools daycarees because the trauma for those parents, 420 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.159 the disruption for those parents, the financial hardship for those parents, and the 421 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.599 lack of confidence some of those parents have in returning their kids to school. 422 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.760 We wanted to make sure that all of that had a payment so that they 423 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.119 could make the choices that is right for their family. At the moment, 424 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.559 we haven't extended it to the partial closures on the other facilities. We are 425 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:29.880 hopeful that those will be reopened very quickly and so I understand the Health Minister 426 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.719 will have more to say on that on Wednesday. Thanks next yep, right, 427 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.239 Nea Williams from Rights You said that if the federal government introduced the teenagersty 428 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:45.239 standards due negotiation, that would be seen as a bad faith at tactic. 429 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.199 So how would the province respond? Would the idea of the CCUS tax credits 430 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.639 go out the window? What will the next step be. I'm going to 431 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.159 be hopeful that they have heard my message, love and clear, not to 432 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.039 bring any permanent change through until we get to the end of the negotiations. 433 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.920 We have a really good relationship with many of the ministers, and I think 434 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:14.360 everybody is coming to the conclusion that having this negotiation and public is not serving 435 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.800 the interests of either of our governments, and it's not serving the interests of 436 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.400 industry. So I'm hoping we can bring the temperature down. I don't want 437 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.159 to escalate it any further. I'm looking for the federal government to be measured 438 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.480 in the comments that they make and optimistic in the comments that they make, 439 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.199 and then we'll see where it goes from there. But you know, we've 440 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.599 got a lot of mechanisms that we can use in order to be able to 441 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.079 defend our constitutional right to develop our resources in our own way, not have 442 00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.719 the federal government put in production caps. Electricity is also an area that is 443 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.599 provincial jurisdiction exclusive provincial jurisdiction, and we intend to vigorously defend our constitutional rights. 444 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.480 There are often with Global News. I just wanted to ask that we 445 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:07.599 have a hearing underway right now else wearing Calgary TMX hearing as they look at 446 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.679 a potentially additional costs, additional delays to this project. It was under five 447 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.960 billion dollars when the federal government first purchased it, now looking at over thirty 448 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:21.639 billion. What kind of precedent does this set for other oil companies or other 449 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:27.159 investors that are looking at putting pipelines to our profits. Well, the reason 450 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.440 Tmax ended up with a federal owners because it needed to be de risked it 451 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:37.280 was not going to go ahead without a federal partner, and I'll I suppose 452 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.920 once this is complete, we'll all learn from why it isn't escalated so much. 453 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.840 I'm just hopeful that it gets to the finish line within before the end 454 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.840 of next year, because it's still a viable product project. It is still 455 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:54.079 going to be a profitable project for all levels of government, and there's a 456 00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:00.199 really great opportunity for indigenous partners to have an ownership stake and a new revenue 457 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:07.119 stream. So I'm really hopeful that they managed to figure out the rooting issue. 458 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.079 I know that it's complicated. Could add I think I read up to 459 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.880 nine months more to the process. So from what I've seen, the federal 460 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.760 government is very keen to get it finished. They are now invested so much 461 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.119 in this they want to have a complete so that they can move it back 462 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.519 into the private sector as quickly as possible. And we'll be prepared to assist 463 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:31.239 on that. We already have our Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation on standby waiting to 464 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.679 see if there's some way that we can assist in helping indigenous communities take an 465 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.960 ownership stake so that work is already beginning, but once it gets into operation, 466 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.119 we'll be able to kick in and provide some support to get that transition. 467 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.280 Another big story, of course, in the headlines that Calgary City Council 468 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.800 has approved as housing strategy over the weekend, several recommendations involved the province on 469 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:58.760 things like rent control, tax breaks for a nonprofit affordable housing providers. What 470 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.679 can Calgarians expand to front the province now that the strategy has approved, and 471 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.000 how open is the province is some of the ideas in this plan. Well, 472 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.320 I can say we're not going to do rent control. We know that 473 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.960 that is the exact opposite of what we need to do. If you're trying 474 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.920 to convince more developers to invest more money into building more rental housing and then 475 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.960 saying your reward for that will be the government will step in at any point 476 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.239 and limit the amounts you can charge, it's going to have the exact opposite 477 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.440 effects. So I know that it seemed to be a nice quick solution, 478 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.400 but it actually creates more long term problems. What we need is to increase 479 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:36.000 supply. We are prepared to give more rent supplement programs, So we did 480 00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.159 add an additional fifteen hundred Alberta households to our rent supplement programs, so there's 481 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.000 a total of twelve thousand, five hundred. Happy to work with Jason Nixon, 482 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:45.880 our minister, to see if more needs to be done there. Last 483 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.039 week we announce sixteen million to bring back affordable housing units for use across the 484 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.000 province, and that's on top of ninety four million we announced in budget twenty 485 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.840 three. We also have nine billion dollars with their partners over the next ten 486 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.039 years to build twenty five through thousand new units by twenty thirty one. But 487 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.960 what I'm really most interested so that I think on the affordable side, I 488 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:13.840 think that's there's lots that we can do to work with our municipal counterparts. 489 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:19.280 What I am interested though, is that the strategy also includes eighty recommendations to 490 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.400 reduce barriers to home building, and so attainable housing is just as important as 491 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:29.280 affordable housing. You need to have young people know that aspirationally they're going to 492 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.000 be able to buy a house. And so if that involves identifying provincial lands 493 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.639 or provincial buildings that can be repurposed in the same way that municipal government is 494 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:43.119 doing that, I think they've asked us to give a property tax reprieve for 495 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.000 a period of time on new construction. I'm open minded and looking at that. 496 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.880 We also need to streamline the permitting process though too. I mean there 497 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.239 are some there are some jurisdictions that are doing a great job on this. 498 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:59.559 Saint Albert. They proudly talk about how they can do same day business license, 499 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.760 three dame development permits, and three week building permits. That's setting the 500 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.400 kind of pace that I think we need to see from all municipalities about how 501 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.679 urgent this is that they clear away the barriers to construction. We also have 502 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.119 an obligation to make sure that there are enough workers in this field as well. 503 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.480 So I've met with the building trades to see what we can do to 504 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:27.079 collaborate on introducing young people to the building trade sooner and so if we can 505 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.039 come to some agreement on how we might be able to accelerate that, I 506 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.800 think that's going to address it too. And we just have time for one 507 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.840 last question. We're just going to go back readers your points yesterday or your 508 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:43.280 speech. You talked about prioritizing and the work of the ethical production. I'm 509 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.840 just wondering given the ribbon cutting, well, just to plaze that with your 510 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.440 Sunny counterparts, their human rights violations are often well documented. In question just 511 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:58.800 how you justify that relationship. One of the things that I think is important 512 00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.760 is to focus on the things that we agree on, and as the Energy 513 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.400 Minister said, we agree on eighty five percent of the direction that we need 514 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.679 to go. There. We're welcoming people from all around the world, from 515 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.960 a bunch of different backgrounds, but we're all here with the same purpose. 516 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.159 We know that we have to deal with emissions in an urgent basis, but 517 00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.280 we also have to make sure that we're dealing with reliability and affordability and energy 518 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.480 security, and so if we can work together on those I know that the 519 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.480 federal government is working on trying to re establish a relationship with our Saudi counterparts 520 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:37.800 after five years of distance, and so we want to be supportive of trying 521 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.920 to move in that direction. So we tend to try to focus on the 522 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:47.440 areas where we can agree. Okay, thanks everyone, Thank you everybody trying 523 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:30.000 m hmm. 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