WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:08.720 And we are live. Hello everyone, this is Daniel with Ballbusters. I 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:13.839 am here today with Todd Wood. You can find him on the Walter Bosley 3 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:19.719 channel on YouTube. He does a segment called Kilifornia. I believe there's a 4 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:25.120 playlist there for California Now where you can find all the past episodes. But 5 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:33.399 what also brought him to my attention were his appearances recently and a little bit 6 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:36.759 dipping into the past with William Ramsey. Now, for those of you who 7 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:38.840 have been watching my show for a while, you know that I've been on 8 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:43.560 William Ramsey and he's been on my channel as well, and behind those scenes, 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:48.159 we email a lot, so I was able to get in touch with 10 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.640 Todd and now we have him here and he isn't I'm going to go right 11 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.159 ahead and be bold enough to say he's an expert on the stuff that we're 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.039 going to be discussing tonight. And it's also just something that we were talking 13 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:04.159 about last night when I did a live stream regarding scientology, the four p 14 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:11.079 or the four Pie cult and well scientology, process, church, you name 15 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.359 it. And we haven't got into Charles Manson last night in a little bit 16 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:19.400 of Son of Sam, so Todd. How are you doing tonight? I 17 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.840 am so honored to be here. I'm wonderful. Thank you for asking. 18 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.359 You got it? So we I mean, we can pick up anywhere, 19 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:33.400 but do you have any things specifically you'd like to like us a breaking off 20 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.879 starting off point, because well, I thought we could just have like a 21 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:41.000 loose, loose discussion and then it'll just take us where it takes us. 22 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.239 Gotcha. We could talk about, you know, talk about the Processed Church 23 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.000 a little, you know, and talk about the four Pe cult. You 24 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:55.280 know. The interesting thing is, the thing that fascinates me so much is 25 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:02.640 California from July fourth of nineteen six nine all the way up to October nineteenth 26 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:13.840 of nineteen seventy. That really really fascinates me. So yeah, October nineteenth 27 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:17.759 that would have been the John Linley Fraser murder of the Odas the Oda family, 28 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.680 with the exception of the two daughters who are away at the school are 29 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:28.319 at school at the time. But to go back to, you know, 30 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.639 just sort of like a quick walk through, you know, July fourth of 31 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.719 nineteen sixty nine was the you know, that was like sort of the first 32 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:42.960 zodiac murder of that year. Yeah, and you know, from there you 33 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:49.680 go into sort of like the Charles Manson stuff and the Tate La Bianca murders, 34 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.360 and I think that was August seven, eight and nine. I threw 35 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:59.879 an extra one in there just in case. Uh. That one really interests 36 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:05.080 me too, because it seems like all these crimes that have sort of a 37 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:12.719 connection to the occult, there's something more happening with those crimes. We need 38 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:17.800 to as a as a research community, need to turn our sort of magnifying 39 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:24.520 glass or or you know whatever and place it on those dates, you know, 40 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:34.439 from July fourth of nineteen sixty nine to October of nineteen seventy. Yeah. 41 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:38.960 You know what's interesting is when you're saying this, what appears in my 42 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:43.599 head when you say there's something else going on? There is I envisioned there's 43 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.520 a common thread, like something that's not spoken about that is common among all 44 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:52.919 of these elements. And to me, that would be an intelligence operations, 45 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.599 some sort of program that was generating these types of people and then setting them 46 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:02.599 loose. Well, if you're where with Dave Mcallen's book Program to Kill in 47 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:11.319 the Introduction the States and that mk ultra programs, mind control programs would use 48 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:16.680 Satanic cults as sort of a way to muddy the water and to hide what 49 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.839 they were doing. Right. It takes you wonder if in these uh, 50 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:28.480 in these realms tube that there isn't also practitioners that are quite involved and take 51 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:33.240 it quite seriously. There definitely is. It's a mix. It's a total 52 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:39.639 mix, right, uh. And I mean speaking of like Manson and Zodiac 53 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.879 and the Processed Church. All those guys spent time in San Francisco. In 54 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.560 fact, the Processed Church lived about a minute away from the Manson family. 55 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:54.680 Now, before we dive any further, I think it's important to remind the 56 00:04:54.759 --> 00:05:00.839 audience of what the occult is shorthand it's it's hidden, the hidden, what 57 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:06.560 is hidden? Right? But an occultation is one thing hiding another thing, 58 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:15.759 such as my hand here hiding my fist, That isn't occultation. Thus Satanic 59 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:21.959 cults being a cover for more sort of CIA programs. And I only say 60 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.399 that because in San Francisco at the time, the CIA was running a safehouse 61 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:34.279 in Telegraph Hill. Now you have to take that into consideration, but you 62 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:43.240 also have to take into consideration the cross pollination between all these groups. Sure, 63 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:47.000 the process Church, they act so pious, you know when you're talking 64 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:54.240 to those Jehovians, and you know, the Jehovians do a really good job 65 00:05:54.279 --> 00:06:00.240 of doing pr for those cons but truth be told, they're only covering for 66 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:05.920 the Luciferians, right, And so the difference being the Luciferians are the guys 67 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.800 who'd like to party and by their very nature like to rebel, just sort 68 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:15.439 of like lucifer Right to quote the that can I curse on this show, 69 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:24.680 Oh of course, the quote that the trial transcript when talking about brother Eli 70 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:29.240 giving his friend who was a journalist, some drugs to get rid of because 71 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:33.560 Eli was worried about being pulled over during the care the caravan when they moved, 72 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:40.079 We're about to move from San Francisco to Los Angeles. He takes, 73 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:45.560 you know, he overhears the Luciferians who moved into the I guess you'd call 74 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:50.959 it sort of a shotgun house. He overheard them, and these Luciferians came. 75 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.079 There's about eight of them. They came from New Orleans, right, 76 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.800 And you have to take in consideration there's a big difference between American culture and 77 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:05.439 British culture. Now, these Luciferians are quoted as to say, let's take 78 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:11.959 all the drugs and fuck those pressy little Jehovians. Yeah, right, so 79 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.519 that is what's hidden there. We don't know what the Jehovians. We don't 80 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:20.120 know what the Luciferians were up to all the time because it's always covered up 81 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.920 by the Jehovians. Right, And you know, you read the books like 82 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:32.040 The Family, and I was gonna say, a relationship of convenience basically people 83 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:36.319 using each other, you know, but not necessarily being of the same mindset 84 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:41.160 or the same right. Well, Also, remember what I said about the 85 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.720 CIA. They were everywhere. And the thing about that people don't really understand 86 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:54.439 about this group of CIA MK Ultra guys being run out of a telegraph hill 87 00:07:55.279 --> 00:08:00.720 is that they're being run by George White, who was a psychopath. There 88 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.959 is no other word for for what George White was. George White had a 89 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.639 picture of a dead Japanese guy that he had killed with his bare hands on 90 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.839 his wall. That's how bad that guy was. No. Was he also 91 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.439 a Knight of Malta or a Jesuit. I don't know what. The Jesuits 92 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:22.199 play a big role in this, because the Jesuits acted like simps for the 93 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:28.079 Processed Church. During the process v. Ed Sanders trial in London, the 94 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.879 one that Ed Sanders and his publishing company won, they they kept going to 95 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.519 bat for the Processed Church in a big way, so that that is definitely 96 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.120 a possibility that is on the table, my friend. The thing when when 97 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.399 people uh, like there've been there's been mainstream documentaries about this now because they're 98 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.679 they're allowing it. They want people to actually to know that the Roman Catholic 99 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.360 Church slash Jesuits own and operate the CIA. But you have like the Knights 100 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.960 of Malta there, uh you know he had white Well, Bill Donovan, 101 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:05.440 you had in the USS all these people that started it and also the Knights 102 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:11.559 of Malta oversee the United Nations. Yeah, of course indications that the that 103 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:16.799 the Holy Roman Empire is still there. It's covert and it operates and controls 104 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.840 people by proxy by infiltrating your governments. And that's why I wanted, like 105 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.879 when I hear the ciam like this is just another one of those things to 106 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.639 show their presence in different countries, this one being ours, and how they 107 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.399 do things and how they subvert from the society, the culture and all the 108 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.600 other other things right right now, remind remind me, Daniel you talked about 109 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.039 like the United Nations. Was the Neptune moving company that David Burker was sort 110 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:48.200 of associated with. They had the contract for the United Nations. Is that? 111 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.080 Is that correct? I I don't really remember all of a field to 112 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.759 medieval It's been so long since I've looked at that. Oh, you know, 113 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.360 I haven't. I haven't gotten too deep into the Brooklitz thing yet, 114 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.440 So I don't know. But now that I I know that piece of information, 115 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.080 I will definitely, Uh, that's something I will definitely look up. 116 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.639 Right, you should you also, if you're gonna do the United Nations thing, 117 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.159 you also need to look at John Gordon Abbott. He was sort of 118 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:18.600 the killing partner or one of the killing partners of Philip Arthur Thompson. Uh. 119 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:24.279 Philip Arthur Thompson was a serial killer and he uh he worked for Wacken 120 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:30.879 Hunt that was on the reservation in Riverside County where Henry le Lucas came claimed 121 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:35.399 he killed people for the Hand of Death. Also, it's suspected that Philip 122 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.440 Arthur Thompson was part of that hand of the same Hand of death. Philip 123 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.559 Arthur Thompson was a head of security for Wacken Hunt. If you're unfamiliar with 124 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:50.399 Iran Contra scandal, anyone out there, wacken Hunt was manufacturing weapons illegally to 125 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:56.519 give to the consciras in exchanged for drugs. Also, the promised software was 126 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:03.039 uh modified at the Hunt facilities on the Kavazon Reservation. I would highly recommend 127 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:09.120 anybody looking up doctor Joseph Ferrell on Dark Journalists what he says about the promised 128 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:16.080 software. But to get back to where we were now, the thing that 129 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.399 I find interesting and the thing that we all have to remember, is the 130 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.720 level of cross pollination. You also have the Church of Satan in the San 131 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.759 Francisco area. Now, people made picture in their heads someplace that's really big, 132 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.200 but in reality San Francisco is only seven miles by seven miles, so 133 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:43.000 it's small. So that means lots and lots of cross pollination. Yeah, 134 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.440 it's a high. It's a high activity like B's neess too. When you 135 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.120 think of it in the dimensions like that, it was very very active. 136 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.360 Then you have not even even before the temple the set, you had just 137 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.879 the presidio on its own, and they could not have going on there that 138 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:05.879 is still classified. Right, Boy, aren't market Michael Akino's eyebrows ridiculous? 139 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.840 Yeah, it reminds me of an old professor, but he was young when 140 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:16.120 he was started doings for eyebrows. That's how I know the kids at the 141 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.919 Personio I guess preschool are telling them the truth because as human beings, we 142 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.159 look for landmarks. If we get lost, we look for like landmarks to 143 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.600 identify with so we know where we are. That same thing goes for children, 144 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.600 right, Those eyebrows are identifying markers. That's why I believe those kids. 145 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.480 Yep, they they remarked on those mm hmm yeah. I mean that's 146 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.159 you know, it's not hard to compare him to everybody else. His eyebrows 147 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.519 stick out, you know. Then you know they pointed him at in lineup 148 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.759 every single time. Uh well, I just want to go just one real 149 00:12:54.840 --> 00:13:00.960 quick thing. I want to mention that in a very h I think, 150 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.080 almost like a classic documentary at this point, to go back to George white 151 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.159 Bee, that was there was another person remarking on him about how he was 152 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.399 discussing something with him at a dinner table at a restaurant, and the waiter 153 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:18.039 kept on trying to get his order from him, and eventually George White just 154 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.240 pulls out a gun and puts it in the guy's face. Yeah yeah, 155 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.000 like that's that's that's that's another anecdote of how George White used to roll. 156 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.320 Mm hmm yeah, oh yeah. I mean George White was a very dangerous 157 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:37.919 human being. And those guys at that CIA sort of safe house where they 158 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.360 were running like Operation Midnight Climax. Right, there's your potential Manson connection right 159 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.279 there, because he is running his prostitutes. Yeah. Right, And then 160 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:52.600 you have another connection with the Process Church, because a potential connection nothing set 161 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.600 in stone. But if you have the Process that the Jehovians, who are 162 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:03.720 so self disciplined and everything, you know, tough and whatever, and you 163 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.159 have these rowdy American Luciferians, you don't think they would want to get in 164 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:13.639 bed with Susan Atkins or Squeaky or something like that. Hell yeah, they 165 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.039 only live a man in away. They're taking the literature. You don't think 166 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.639 that they want to get with some of those girls. Human nature doesn't change. 167 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.600 It strikes me. It struck me as kind of interesting when I started 168 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.440 seeing the libertarianism card being. You know, it's like shuffled in the deck 169 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.519 with a lot of this occult stuff as far as like these are ideals that 170 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.360 are now I'm being told, are you know, right wing Church of Satan 171 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:39.960 type of ideas And it's like, what, how does that? How does 172 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.679 that play out? Well? You know, the thing people don't realize about 173 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.879 the Church of Satan is there actually it's a secular cult. They don't literally 174 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:54.200 worship Satan. They're haightiist to mock God. So they put on a big 175 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.960 floor show and this that, and the other problem is when you have people 176 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:05.480 on and you have young, impressional, impressionable people, it's very easy to 177 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:11.120 get into their heads. Right, That's why Manson went for the younger girls 178 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.480 instead of the older girls. You know, correct me if I'm wrong, 179 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.240 But do you find the Church of Satan even if it wasn't intended to be 180 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:26.840 this in the beginning, that it became almost like the theatrical, flashy, 181 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:35.159 made for public type of way of processing or how this is what we're feeding 182 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.120 you about what what Satanism is. So it doesn't so it kind of like 183 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.919 disarms you and you don't think any much of it. Other things are happening 184 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.720 in the background that are much more dark. And that's just exactly exactly, 185 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.799 and we're about to get into those dark things. So, I mean, 186 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:56.919 let's just look at this timeline. Starting in nineteen seventy Okay, so I 187 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.279 believe it was the twenty seventh of February, you have the first go Letta 188 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:08.159 Beach murders, the murders of John b Hood and Sander Garcia. John Behood 189 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:12.320 was a war hero. He served with the sixty fourth Armored Division. What 190 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.639 a shitty way to go after doing that, you know, it's such a 191 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.399 horrible thing, like, let's come back to kill you, you know. 192 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.200 Yeah, now we're gonna be revisiting go lett At Beach here in just one 193 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:30.639 moment. Moving on to April, uh, we have the murder of Robert 194 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.840 Salem, a light designer in San Francisco that the supposedly was Stanley Dean Baker. 195 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.720 Well, let's just say it was Stanley Dean Baker. His fingerprint was 196 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.399 on the wall. He killed the guy and started writing messages in the guy's 197 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:48.519 blood on his apartment walls, such as Satan saves Zodiac and he did some 198 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:55.200 Egyptian hieroglyphic type of stuff. So that is that's April. Moving on to 199 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.919 June, and now this is where your stuff comes in. What you just 200 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.519 told me about Babylon line because I had no idea, and I think that 201 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:08.720 is very interesting. On June second, Robert what's his name, I think 202 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:17.359 his name was Holse Houls and Stephen Hunt murdered a performed an axe murder on 203 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:22.960 a service station attendant in Santa Anna. Wow right. And then the day 204 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:29.200 after that they performed a ritual murder on a woman named Florence Nancy Brown where 205 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:33.079 they they got her on the the sort of off ramp from I want to 206 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:37.920 say sant from. Uh they are the Santa Anna off on ramp or off 207 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:44.319 ramp or something like that. This is the mother that they parsed out in 208 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:48.440 pieces, right they they well, yeah, they they They only took the 209 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:53.119 heart, the lungs, and her left arm. Some of her was eaten, 210 00:17:55.319 --> 00:18:00.079 the lungs in the arm probably, and uh so they took her car 211 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.799 or Hunt took her car. I refer to this group and Walter prefers to 212 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.799 this group as a Satanic cell because there was about six of them. Okay, 213 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:18.160 if that's fair. Now, Uh, she was murdered in the the 214 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:25.240 Orange groves in Irvine. Now the heart was Stephen hun and they took her 215 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:32.000 car and they drove it to Santa Cruz. That's quite the hike, right, 216 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.279 Why Santa Cruz, right right? And they the heart was used in 217 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:40.279 a ritual, but they burnt the heart kind of like what you told me 218 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.759 about Babylon. Huh, well, what they do to Yeah, So they 219 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.119 have the wax figurines that are supposed to represent that who you're trying to put 220 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.000 the hex on. So there's that element where they will do something to that 221 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:55.240 particular wax figure, uh in in in the hopes of that it, you 222 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.480 know, does that same type of harm to another. But there's also the 223 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:03.000 way that they can of their their their demonic necessity to hex you and one 224 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.720 way or the other and different portions of that. They don't get too much 225 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:12.160 into certain things because it's like libel if you start talking about it in a 226 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.680 sense in a way that they're telling you to do. That they kind of 227 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.079 back off a little bit in some of these writings. But there's there's the 228 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.480 burning of organs, there's the burning of that type of thing, and that's 229 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:25.240 right, right, And when you go back into the history of what they 230 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.599 did in the big spirituals or ceremonies, even going up in the cannon they 231 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:33.440 were there was cannibalism. That's kind of like where the name comes from. 232 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.599 Right. They would burn the bodies or the hearts, and and that would 233 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:44.039 usually be sick like the Assyrians Babylon. They would they would take the hearts 234 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:48.839 out and do that very thing almost as a reflex of any of their enemies. 235 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.039 They would take them off. They cut out their eyes, cut out 236 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.519 their tongues, They flay them while it pin them down and flay them while 237 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.119 they were still alive, and then chop off. There all kinds of six 238 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.279 right, all of their gods, the most bloodless they could for their gods, 239 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.519 right right, right right. It's sort of like Magdalena Salise in nineteen 240 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:12.319 sixty three, sacrificing all those people via heart removal, blood drinking, heart 241 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:18.559 consumption and all that. But to to and she thought she was the reincarnation 242 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:23.079 of a quanta. Cu I hope I'm saying that right, quoto q quoto 243 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:30.160 qu Now, the interesting thing about Stephen Hunt is he claims that his guru 244 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.640 is the Grand ching Gon, the Grand ching Goon of the Four Pie cult. 245 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.559 Yeah, right, word too, the ching gon. The ching gon 246 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:48.359 it means in Spanish, it means awesome, intelligent or in slaying, in 247 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:56.480 intimidating. Huh yeah, all all the characteristics you need for a manipulative leader, 248 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:03.759 right exactly. I'd highly recommend people read a Project Artichoke by David M. 249 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:08.720 Silly. That's a really good book because I believe I believe that the 250 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:12.440 guy they got, uh doctor Bryan, what was the Grand ginge Gun. 251 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:21.240 I think that David was was correct in his what his allegations were. So 252 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.240 they made it up to Santa Cruz. They burnt the car, they burnt 253 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.000 the heart and the ritual. That's going to be important later. Now, 254 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:36.799 later on in the timeline. Now to go to June, and now we're 255 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:41.720 on July fourth, we have the other go lett at Beach murders. Now 256 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:49.319 the gold this time according to the it was the three young people were victimized 257 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:56.319 and the one that survived after he survived his surgery because he had he was 258 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:03.599 just bury a lot, barely alive when he was found. He claims that 259 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:10.200 it was men in robes and hooded robes, chanting holding knives and machetes, 260 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.359 and that they just got him. The young people were in their sleeping bags. 261 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:19.160 This is the murders known as Maxwell's Silver Hammer. But I don't think 262 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:26.480 that's correct because I think Gypsy Share knew something was going to happen with Gypsy 263 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.440 Share from the Manson family, but she didn't know what. And on July 264 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:37.079 ninth there was the murder of Fred's the Synth family by Fred Sinth, who 265 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:47.039 tried to uh implicate what Thomas Hayes, the surviving victim of the second Goleta 266 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:55.440 Beach Murder, have you done any any looking into the types of like B 267 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:59.599 horror movies that were coming around out around this time, because it almost seems 268 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:06.920 like the reflective symbolically, they're kind of like either glorifying or encapsulating that type 269 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.319 of fear that was happening. Because there's a lot of wood, right, 270 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.839 We're going to be We're definitely going to be talking about that because that's a 271 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:17.799 big part of it. That's a big part of the whole occult, the 272 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.920 magic with a K aspect of this whole thing. So you know, like 273 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.559 I said, Fred Scinth, he killed his family, but really, uh, 274 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:32.279 and you know that has no connection to Maxwell's Silver Hammer, which Gipsy 275 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:37.799 Chair probably heard about. Thus why she called it Maxwell's silver Hammer. She 276 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.400 knew something was supposed to happen, she didn't know what. She made an 277 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:45.480 assumption. So for anybody who's going to read the Family or has read the 278 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:52.279 Family, just to clear up what that was, then you have on the 279 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:57.640 thirteenth, you have the capture of Stanley Dean Baker. Right, super sensational, 280 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.480 right, he was him and his frame. We're involved in a hit 281 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.160 and run. The police pick him up in big sir, the pull up 282 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:10.160 gnarl finger out of his pocket, and he claims that he has a problem, 283 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:14.599 that he's a cannibal. That's just like, I give up basically, 284 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.039 because if you say that, then you're already implying that you're a killer. 285 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.119 I mean, it's right, right, strange thing to say. The interesting 286 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.559 the interesting thing is how it overshadowed the Stephen Hunt stuff, just because it 287 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.559 was just a little bit more sensational, when the Stephen Hunt and his little 288 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:37.640 posse was just almost just as a sensational right, Yeah, it's a little 289 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.519 strange, I mean it. So there's two things I look at Because when 290 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:47.720 I heard you talking about this with William Ramsey. What struck my mind is 291 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:52.200 that these people think that they're so into this eembedded in the system that they 292 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:57.680 can without any type of mask of you know, or or without trying to 293 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:02.640 hide it covered up or or speak again. You know, they're they're they're 294 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.079 just right out in the open telling you that they're doing it because I think 295 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:11.039 that they might be propped up by government agencies so they don't feel like they're 296 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:17.240 untouchable, so that they can tell chief chief of police anything because it doesn't 297 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:21.839 matter, nothing's gonna happen to him, right, And I think you're that's 298 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:26.279 where we're going with this talk. After you know, remember what I said 299 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:33.519 about Stephen Hunt and and the UH and the the station wagon. Now to 300 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:38.839 move to move on to October, you have the murder of the Oda family 301 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:45.279 and Santa Cruz by John Linley Fraser and what he says in his original statement 302 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:53.200 three other people. Okay, Now this is really interesting because at the Manson 303 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:57.920 fan at the at the Tate residence, they found some glasses, right, 304 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.839 and Vin said, biglie. When trying this case, uh, he didn't 305 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:08.160 want the glasses in like submitted as evidence because maybe there's they have the wrong 306 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.839 people or there's someone else they haven't caught out there. But uh, I 307 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:18.680 think Manson claims that he planted the glasses, don't they use like, uh, 308 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.599 you know, to protect the innocent and and so that they're not giving 309 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.359 names when when in reality it could be indicative of who was there. But 310 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:29.039 they try to use that stupid you know, lawyer nonsense. Right, well, 311 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:33.519 we're protecting by not omitting this or submitting this as evidence. Come on, 312 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:40.079 right, right, well Victor Oda was the person who prescribed those glasses. 313 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:48.079 Yes, okay, Now isn't it interesting that the car, the car 314 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.160 got burnt. Stephen Hunt burnt and his little posse they burnt the car. 315 00:26:52.079 --> 00:27:02.559 Now the posse, the little group tagging along with John Linley for supposedly burnt 316 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:07.839 the Odas station wagon in the same exact manner, only they left there's in 317 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:17.319 a train tunnel right now. That's that's really really interesting. You know, 318 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.880 Stephen Hunt could have driven anywhere. He could have gotten to Nevada. You 319 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.519 know, they could have gone to Mexico. They could have been ghosts. 320 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.279 But why Santa Cruz, right right? And what's going on right going on 321 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:36.599 up there? Right? And why the Oda family. Why this connection to 322 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.720 the glass is going all the way back to August of sixty nine at the 323 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:48.279 Tate residence, at the scene of the Tate murders. Right now, you've 324 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:56.319 suggested that this is a it's a government thing, right, all these murders 325 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:03.279 with a cult connection, right. I wouldn't that scare the hell out of 326 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.359 the public, don't you think? Yeah? Of course? Right? And 327 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.119 if you were a church going person, if you are a Catholic, don't 328 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.160 you think that those butts would be in the pews? Everybody would be passing 329 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:21.480 the plate. There's nothing scarier than a drugged out satanic hippie, right right, 330 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:26.880 Yeah, you'd right and man your community together in the in defense of 331 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:32.000 course, that's just nature, right. And people don't realize in Santa Cruz 332 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:37.599 after the Otis murders, how close uh, the straight the Squares and the 333 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:42.160 Hippies were to going going to war with each other. I mean, crap 334 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:47.359 was about to go down. Which is so funny because the hippies themselves never 335 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:52.640 were supposed to represent this whole, you know, fractured minded serial killer thing. 336 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.880 It should It was supposed to be a liberating movement until LSD and the 337 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:02.839 c i A and others, so right up and throwing Marxists into there in 338 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.440 their groups as leaders and bringing them up. You know, it was it 339 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:11.359 wasn't until that manipulation. It should have been free, happy, right to 340 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.839 welcome, you know. But it's anyone who's familiar with the Four P cult 341 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.640 and the Grand Ching Gon. According to Michael Newton's book, Uh the idea 342 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:26.160 that the order given by the Grand ching Gun was to kill random targets. 343 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:34.680 This would imply that the act of murder itself was more important than the targets. 344 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.160 The targets were meaningless, right, right, So all we have all 345 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.319 this fear going through California. Everybody's afraid. They're afraid of the Zodiac, 346 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:51.079 they're afraid of the Manson family, afraid all of these cannibal hippies doing their 347 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.960 their satanic occult murders, and this, that and the other. Well, 348 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.599 the interesting thing is that do you realize that nineteen seventy was an election year? 349 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.559 That is interesting? And do you know who? If you know who 350 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.599 is running for re election for governor of California, that would have been Reagan 351 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:19.880 at that time, right, Ronald Reagan running on on prime platform and Yeah, 352 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:26.680 don't you think all those scared people at church maybe got Reagan's vote or 353 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.119 voted for Reagan because I mean, look at what's going on in the community. 354 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:36.359 They need somebody to protect them, isn't it the saying that from chaos 355 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.039 comes order. Absolutely, then you can maybe orchestrate chaos, right, yeah, 356 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:47.000 you can definitely be the person who creates the problem and then the reaction 357 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:52.039 would be and offer the solution. Right, that's right, that's right. 358 00:30:52.160 --> 00:31:00.400 Operation chaos so quick. They manipulate people and at the expense of human lives 359 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.759 too, right, right. And I mean also with Stanley Baker, you 360 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:10.519 know he was he claimed loyalty to this Grand Chingan as well. He was 361 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.559 in a cult in Wyoming. But then according to Maury Terarian at Sanders, 362 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.039 I think they said that they he joined the activities at Santa Cruz where the 363 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:26.279 four p Colts were holding their their ritual sacrifices, which was sort of an 364 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.519 Aztec style sacrifice, heart removal, heart consumption, blood drinking. Right, 365 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:38.799 there's some indications that the people who've volunteered for sacrifice when they couldn't find a 366 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:45.200 drifter, homeless person or whatever, they kind of like the stories of the 367 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:51.440 vikings where if you if you were willing, they would get they would take 368 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.680 you. But if you weren't, then you weren't. You weren't worthy of 369 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.799 the sacrifice, or not so much worthy, but it would not please the 370 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.880 gods right right, Well, according to Stephen Hunt, the person in which 371 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.160 we have most of our information about the Four Pea Cult, anybody who's read 372 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.480 the two thousand and two edition of the Family, chapter fifteen, Steven claims 373 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.359 that he was forced to take war pills reds right so that I can only 374 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:22.680 imagine that being military grade and fetamines, sort of the same stuff Max Fisher 375 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.359 was creating for the Nazis so that the pilots could stay up in the air 376 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.559 longer. It makes me think of two different things, Jacob's Ladder, the 377 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.400 movie where this, you know, the meth made them kill each other. 378 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.400 And also when bath salts came out, I saw that as being like a 379 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:45.680 mass experiment on people because these types of really strong and fetamine type things like 380 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:52.519 MDPV was methyl aline, I think was the other component in there, depending 381 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.039 on what kind of person you were. And let's let's also say that they 382 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.039 kept the same name as quote unquote baths salts generic and change the formula over 383 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:05.000 time just to mess with people even further. You see what they would do 384 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.279 because it still has the same package, same name. People take it thinking 385 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.079 it's one thing, it's something else, and then a whole different thing happens 386 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.240 to them, you know, right, And uh, wasn't it one of 387 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.759 the goals of mk ulture to make an assassin? Yeah, so you've turned 388 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:23.759 all these drug adults satanists who just probably wanted to be edge lords into weapons. 389 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:30.119 Could you imagine ls like especially injectable LSD plus scopolamine where you're if you 390 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.119 have if you're on scopolamin, if someone tells you help me move all of 391 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.839 your furniture into my truck so that I can steal it from you, you'll 392 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.079 just do it. Because that's how susceptible you are to suggestion. M you 393 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:49.799 know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, 394 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.160 I just lost my place in my brain me sometimes. Yeah, that was 395 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.400 kind of a little bit my fault too, though. No, No, 396 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.599 it's okay, it's okay. Marget's not important. It's more about the kill 397 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.759 we were talking about. Oh, the young lady that well, so I 398 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.760 was just gonna say the young lady that was sacrifice, went out with a 399 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:12.880 smile on her face. According to Huntress, this would imply that she was, 400 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.880 you know, maybe given PCP or heroin or mushrooms or something microdosing. 401 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.480 Uh, you know, something that you know would make her smile. It's 402 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.960 much like the Aztext. Sometimes the Aztext would give their victims drugs before the 403 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:32.599 human sacrifice part. M Yeah, there's an Inca's astext. I'm not sure 404 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.920 which one it was, but they definitely had a the skinned demon as one 405 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.440 of their deities that would wear the flesh of other of other victims. They 406 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.960 had some strange enough going on, But you're right about the heart thing being 407 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:50.679 a component that was always either burned or torn out for some purpose, even 408 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.119 after the the end of the the games. Like that was my ends though 409 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.039 when I went thinking about that, they would rip the hearts out of the 410 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:05.039 of the losing team. Yeah, don't lose. Well that and that makes 411 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.280 it no one wants to play you if you're just gonna do that. I 412 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.480 mean, yeah, I mean the heart consumption that's important. Uh. The 413 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.440 interesting thing in Aztec you know that it was the sort of pay tribute and 414 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.119 you know, keep their error the world from ending. You know, in 415 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.280 a sec culture. So you know, it's very very interesting. What does 416 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.400 that make you think? Like when you when you when you hear something like 417 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.719 that, like why was the was the fear so strong? Is it because 418 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:37.960 they had a genetic memory of a of a like a cataclysm that did wipe 419 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.199 them out? And it's like, you know, just like with the monarch 420 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.840 butterfly which just imprinted into them so deeply, this type of this type of 421 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.079 like trauma that they would do something this dramatic to try to prevent it. 422 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.800 Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, 423 00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:00.280 uh, there's more occult murders in Latin America than anywhere else to do 424 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.400 something, uh, Right across from a church, they have all this stuff 425 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.039 in a shop that's all well you would consider satanic. There's a bunch of 426 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.920 baffmint stuff, there's a bunch of demon stuff. There's candles for these uh 427 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.960 and these wax figurines for those types of rituals. Right across the street from 428 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.920 a church, from a Catholic church of course. Oh really that's really interesting. 429 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.840 Right in Tijuana, yeap, oh wow, they had a LaVey's book 430 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.559 in there, but it was in Spanish. Oh wow, I just found 431 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.679 public domain footage of Anton LaVey. Oh you did, Yeah, Devil's Rain. 432 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.159 That movie is public domain. There's no copyright marker after the credits, 433 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.599 so it's not even marked. I don't know if YouTube would recognize it, 434 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.639 but yeah, if you need footage of Anton LaVey, you just get it 435 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:46.400 from that movie. Yeah, I think so, So now you bring that 436 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.480 up. I found this movie maybe two three years ago on YouTube and I 437 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.480 downloaded it, so I do have that. But the reason why I was 438 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.159 looking for in the first place because I saw Trevolta and I'm like, I 439 00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.960 got to look at this deeper. And then all the you know, all 440 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.159 the connections and him being a scientologist but also being you know, buddies with 441 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.360 Levey. It makes you see again how things are mixed there. You know. 442 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:15.639 Well, Anton Levey himself hated the counterculture. Oh yeah, and the 443 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.800 highest level of the Church of Satan that you could go was that when you 444 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.400 say cradle, you're talking about the hippies themselves, right like that hated the 445 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.840 hippies. Yeah, he was kind of a libertarian, sort of gun nut 446 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.079 type of guy, right that, that's what he was really into. But 447 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.960 you know, he liked the performance aspect of sort of Satanism, but like 448 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:39.280 it's really close to Crowley. Like what Croley believed is what Satanists typically believe. 449 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.559 There is no God higher than man, and do as thy wilt, 450 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.039 right, do whatever you want to. There is no spiritual consequences at all 451 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.920 for you, you know, and the high flu in talk and the and 452 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:55.639 the ceremony stuff that's like sounds like McGregor Madthers all day making the complicated ceremonies 453 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.679 to write. I mean, it really doesn't matter because the psych the logical 454 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.159 effects of those rituals is the same. It doesn't matter if you say you're 455 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:08.119 doing it ironically or if you're doing it purposely. It doesn't change what's going 456 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:15.000 on in your head. Right, And I think that's why it's a double 457 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:20.639 joke when you hear people like Robert Anton Wilson and the joke of Discordia, 458 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:27.119 Well, is it a joke or isn't it nineteen seventy we've created chaos, 459 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.079 right, They've created fear with all these satanic murders, all these occult ritual 460 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:37.559 murders. And I mean pretty sure it helped Reagan get re elected yeah. 461 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:43.400 Right, And let's look at it this way too. Everything goes sort of 462 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.960 goes away, Like in California, sure you have serial killers, but you 463 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.119 don't really have any more occult ritual murders and stuff connected to the occult until 464 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:57.159 seventy four. So they dialed it down. Fore, So right after that 465 00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.320 happened, they dialed everything down. It wasn't that everybody got caught thing. 466 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.880 It was that they dialed it down because I hold it because they can in 467 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.239 the seventy four I think that they were doing that, and it's a two 468 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:14.679 for they were. Whoever those glasses belonged to was a very important person, 469 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.880 you know, and they would have sex parties at the Tate residence, so 470 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.360 there wasn't a victims classes. Then you're saying you think it was I'm saying, 471 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.199 yeah, they were. They were trying to in my opinion, my 472 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:30.360 uh my, My speculation is that they were trying to protect some someone was 473 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:36.639 being protected, because if you found out whose glasses there were, they're gonna 474 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.800 find out a bunch of other stuff, like you know, those videotapes that 475 00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:44.719 Roman Polanski was shooting of a Sharon Tate having sex with different people and all 476 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.199 that, right, and we so we can we can even assume that maybe 477 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:52.719 it's possible that it wasn't his his child that she was carrying, right, 478 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.440 wife swapping stuff that's going on. Well, think of it this way. 479 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.880 If you're a pedophile, do you know what the most unat tractive thing to 480 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:07.360 a pedophile is a grown woman? A grown woman who's pregnant, right right, 481 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:12.760 So yeah, I mean, I I do not trust Roman Polanski one 482 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.199 bit. That guy's has so many skeletons in his closet and I don't trust. 483 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.199 And back in the day Tarantino before Kill Bill era, yeah, I 484 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.840 was a huge fan. But when he got on and started talking about uh, 485 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.559 you know, trying trying to uh justify pedophilia and drugging a thirteen year 486 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:37.840 old girl saying she was into it, she wanted to get down on Howard 487 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.599 Stern. He said it multiple times. The dude, the dude's a piece 488 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.280 of trash, I mean, And yeah, definitely he's a piece of trash. 489 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.719 Klanski's movie The Ninth Gate with depth kind of brings everything together again too, 490 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.679 And that's straight straight. I mean, there's a lot of up in 491 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.760 there that's real, it's not made up. It's like these are themes that 492 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.599 they're that are heavily involved in what they actually do right, right, And 493 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.599 this is the reason I think that sixty nine through nineteen seventy is the real 494 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.880 Satanic panic, that's the legitimate, real Satanic panic, instead of sort of 495 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.199 the moral crisis that was happening in the nineteen eighties, right, trying to 496 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.639 wag the finger at Metallica and dungeons and dragons, right, Well, I 497 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.480 think they did that on purpose to make it seem ridiculous, because there was 498 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.519 a legitimate thing going on. So they wanted to get all you stupid Christians, 499 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:34.760 all your stupid another way to get another punch at morality and right ethics. 500 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.039 I love those people who are like, oh no, no, it 501 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.039 was nothing, and then you tell them about like a Dafho cat Stanzo, 502 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.800 right, which is it's a different thing the case. He is basically a 503 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:52.000 paleo Miambi extremist compared to an atheist who just wants to mock God right right 504 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:57.639 right, or you know Robbing Geck part of the Ripper Crew, right, 505 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.920 and that there you go again with those connections because as you know, he 506 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.519 worked for John Wayne Gacy. Yeah, you were talking about that. That 507 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.559 was that was interesting to me. Yeah. Yeah. And Phil Plaski, 508 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:14.920 who's connected to the Delta program, was a human trafficking program. The Delta 509 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.880 Program not not like Delta Force. You're talking about something Delta, it's the 510 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.400 Delta Project. I'm sorry. It is as John David Norman who was supplying 511 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:30.880 children to the serial killer Dean Coral, right, and uh, his part, 512 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.480 he goes to John, he meets up with this guy, Phil Plaski, 513 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.360 and when they get out of jail, they have this plan to keep 514 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.559 trafficking kids and it's called the Delta Project. And Phil, I think I'm 515 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.840 saying his name right. Uh. If I'm not, I am so sorry. 516 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:50.719 But he goes to work for Gaysey. Now, Phil Plaski is also 517 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.159 the one of the lead suspect in suspects in the Oakland child murders. So 518 00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:00.960 you got Gaysey who's burying children in his backyard, and you have Will helping 519 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.639 him, and you have a young, impressionable Robin learning from them. Do 520 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.480 you know one of his defenses was the only thing I'm guilty of is running 521 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.000 an unlicensed cemetery. Oh real, I think Gaysey was out of his goddamn 522 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.800 glord. Oh he definitely was. He moped you. Yes, yes he 523 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.480 was. Oh, I haven't heard that. That's that's nuts. I believe 524 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.559 it was one of the books. I think it's just like a one liner. 525 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.840 Like I don't know if he said it on the stand if I don't 526 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.280 even know if he took the stand, But I think it was like conversation 527 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.920 between him and his lawyer or something like that, and it was something that 528 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.519 was captured on the record. Right. And then I mean, if we 529 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.920 follow the methodology of sacrifice from the four p just to go back to that 530 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:49.079 heart removal concept again, it shows up again in Florida with the Hand of 531 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.440 Death cult. Yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, you know that. 532 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.559 According to Max Call, Henry told him why he is being trained in 533 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.039 the Everglades. You know that, Uh, along with the l Savagory and 534 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.119 expats who are going to go back and retake their countries from the Sandinistas. 535 00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.119 Uh, they performed a ritual sacrifice and it was basically sort of the same 536 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.679 Aztechian type of thing, only it was a boy. Uh. They cut 537 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:20.840 his heart out and consumed it. Of course, it was adust Tool who 538 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.519 talked who was talking about Satanism before uh Henry was when they got caught. 539 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.119 Now, the interesting thing like this, the Hand of Death cult was sort 540 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:36.639 of murder for hire, kidnapping, h taking women to Mexico and selling them 541 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:42.400 into prostitution, all the above type of stuff. And it's really interesting because 542 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:50.480 anybody who had sort of a thing, what mark more cartel like than a 543 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.159 cult than I guess. Yes, they were definitely more cartel like in my 544 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:58.719 opinion. But I mean the CIA had their hand in this whole thing too, 545 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.280 because they're the ones chraining the l Salvadorians, the El salvador Expats, 546 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.920 you know. So, I mean there's your CI type of stuff going on. 547 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.920 And I have a feeling that the reason why MS thirteen is was so 548 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:21.239 extreme had to do with manipulation by forces of our of our quote unquote Yeah, 549 00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.920 we were training the leadership and in in a paramilitary camp in the Everglades, 550 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.119 right. I think his name is Ernesto Daris. Now, I am 551 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.559 not the expert on the Hand of Death, guys. If y'all wanted some 552 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.039 really good information, I highly recommend either going to the Program to Kill You 553 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:46.639 YouTube channel and looking up Georgian Georgie's episode on UH Program to Chill. It's 554 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.239 a two parter on the Hand of Death and Henry Lee Lucas. So, 555 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:57.000 are you familiar with the Rotting Jewels? Dana Dudan No, okay, because 556 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.639 she she uh, when we were talking about the Satanic pan and stuff like 557 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.559 that, she's really good at showing people that that was a way of, 558 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.760 you know, making you feel stupid for having legitimate concerns about things that were 559 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.159 really going on right right a lot because it's like, and that's where I 560 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.159 looked at, you know, the Church of Satan being on Heraldo for instance, 561 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.280 as being one of those things where they make it look ridiculous, they 562 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.159 make it look harmless because there's a lot of stuff going on in the background 563 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:30.639 that by legitimate occultists that they don't want you to look at. They want 564 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:36.880 you to see all this through the through the the kaleidoscope of of the Church 565 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:38.480 of Satan and knowing the people that they put out in front of you to 566 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.559 talk about it. Zena, you know, a keynote, and but you 567 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:47.159 know that was it. I think the only well, uh, I think 568 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.920 that I have to check her out. Uh, that'd be really interesting. 569 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:53.760 I want to. I want to hear what about all that? Yeah, 570 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:59.559 mind sending me? Would you mind sending me like a link sometime? Oh 571 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.599 yeah, when we're done with this, I'll find ah you're you're on Twitter 572 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.280 whatever they call it. No, I don't do social media at all because 573 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:12.920 I'm legally blind. I have what they call Starguart's disease and macular degeneration. 574 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:19.000 So any screen time I I have I used for interviews or doing research. 575 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.639 Gotcha, before my mind I get migraine. But to go back to the 576 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:30.079 sort of the Hand of Death right, it was also believed that Jeffrey Dahmer 577 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.519 was part of this Hand of Death cult. Now, Jeffrey Dahmer is interesting 578 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.880 to talking about human sacrifice because Dahmer I thought he was the reincarnation of an 579 00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:45.199 Aztec priest and was building a an altar out of skulls and like sort of 580 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:50.679 thigh bones and stuff like that, and his victims in a strange way too, 581 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.000 kind of like the Podesta artwork where they're you know, the ankle to 582 00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.519 the to the to the foot or the ankle to the wrist type of binding. 583 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.280 But he would have them, you know, bent over backwards like that 584 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.440 kind of like in a almost like a gymnastics post without their heads or whatever. 585 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:13.840 And that's that's very interesting because that's exactly what the Johant what's what Tony 586 00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.599 Podesta artwork looks like? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Of 587 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.840 course Dahmer is connected to John Paul Ronari, who was part of the Son 588 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:30.400 of Sam call until he left in seventy two to start his own little wing 589 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:31.760 of things. Right, No, no, he was like he was like 590 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:39.360 so supposedly he was a Christian street preacher, Adam, I guess it's Milwaukee, 591 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:44.199 out of Milwaukee. He was a Christian street preacher out of Milwaukee. 592 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:49.679 I think Dahmer accused him of sodomizing him. And he's also featured in the 593 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:58.119 documentary of the Sons of Sam so so basically Dahmer saying he made him kind 594 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.320 of like a Batman line, right, you made me, remember, because 595 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.679 ohomized by him. I don't know. I think all these guys, you 596 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:12.519 know, all these young people were you know there sort of says it in 597 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.559 the book, in one of the one of these books that we read, 598 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.239 uh that he he was sort of did made to do prostitution, right, 599 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.480 and prostitution is used in a lot of blackmail schemes, just like in uh 600 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:30.119 San Francisco and Operation Midnight Climax, they would still do like blackmail operations. 601 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.599 Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I was. That's funny because that's when 602 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:38.079 they were doing the the LSD and spiking it with using the prostitutes, right, 603 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.039 like they were right and in there, and then they were monitored like 604 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.039 observing them quote unquote, and they would get them all kinds of drugs without 605 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.199 them, without their knowledge, and then filmed this stuff. Yeah right right, 606 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.559 speaking of drugs. You know that you have the Atlanta child murders that 607 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.840 seem to have a connection back to the Hand of Death cult, right because 608 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:02.960 this waitress, uh, Shirley mc gil h from Miami flies to Atlanta to 609 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:09.239 tell authorities that her boyfriend was involved in kidnapping some of these kids for a 610 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:15.559 Satanic cult that was also involved in murder for hire. Now what does that 611 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.760 sound like? That sounds like the hand of death to anybody who has like 612 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.280 an eye for this sort of stuff, that sounds exactly like the hand of 613 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.360 death. But they would sort of rub this sort of mud looking stuff on 614 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.159 these kids and people, and you know it, I guess it sort of 615 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.519 knocked them out or something or made them obedient to some extent. That reminds 616 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.679 me of the zombie powder from Haiti, right, yeah, you know what 617 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:44.000 is it called serpent over the serpent and the rainbow type of stuff. You're 618 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:49.760 referring to the Narcissus case. I was actually thinking about the movie and the 619 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:55.360 powder that they in your face. Oh there's an actual case. I think 620 00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.079 the gentleman's name was Narcissus. And yeah, you should look into that. 621 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:07.840 That that's from nineteen sixty three, I believe in Haiti. Uh huh oh, 622 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.119 okay, so that you're talking, you are talking about that same It's 623 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.599 like, yeah, what they based that thing on. So, yeah, 624 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:20.320 like a mixture of biphotoxin to troto toxin sometimes kono's toxic with cone snail toxin 625 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.519 and uh there is one more scopola. Mean, it's like a mixture of 626 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.639 those things. So when they it's your zombie, you're owned. You are 627 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.639 owned until they say you're no longer. And that's how they used to get 628 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:36.400 people to get buried. Yeah without that, you know, because there's no 629 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.800 vitals barely, so it's uh, very strange, very strange stuff. Yeah, 630 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.960 yeah, yeah, for sure, I will look that up though, 631 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.440 I got I gotta read. I have to go back into my like, 632 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.000 these are all based off of long, long old memory, so I got 633 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.920 to get back into it and uh, you know, beef it up and 634 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.199 get get the details again. Well, you definitely know more about drugs than 635 00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:02.920 me, my friend, no comment, just kidding. That was a joke. 636 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.119 I never had time for that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, So when 637 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:14.280 we're talking about the hand of Death, Cole and does does Albert Fish play 638 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.480 into anything like being connected to anything or is he just a standalone psychopath. 639 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.880 He's a standalone psychopath from the nineteen twenties, but his family may be very 640 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:27.760 well to do. There may be some elite because he was basically an opera 641 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:32.280 right. He was poor. He's poor, but his like his hit distant 642 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.599 relatives may be not so poor. Huh yeah. Interesting, the Vampire of 643 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.280 Brooklyn, right right, right right, you kind of like the Vampire of 644 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:50.079 a Sacramento Robert Chase. Yeah, so let me let me just circle back 645 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:55.159 real quick, and is there anything that you have look can you because this 646 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.599 is a topic that I know a lot of people were asking me about. 647 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:04.000 Yeah, in the in the realm of like Robert Anton Wilson, Ye, 648 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.000 Kenneth Anger, is there any information that you have and like where those people 649 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:15.199 went and who they influenced? Well, of course Bobby Boselet was uh hanging 650 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.199 around with Kenneth Anger, and he was part of the Manson family. Right, 651 00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:20.440 he was one of the first ones to get caught right or to get 652 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.039 right, I believe, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Robert 653 00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:32.880 Anton Wilson at his partner was Carry Thornley right in the discorionism, right, 654 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.599 Kerry Thornley, who wanted to write a book about Lee Harvey Oswald before the 655 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:46.719 whole assassination thing. That's I think I find that really interesting because according to 656 00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:52.480 a serial killer by the name of Patrick Kearney who wrote crime writer Amanda Howard. 657 00:53:52.360 --> 00:54:00.599 Uh uh Patrick Kearney met Lee Harvey Oswald. Not Patrick Kearney. Yeah, 658 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:05.719 Patrick Kearney met Lee Harvey Oswald in the army much in the same way 659 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.840 Carrie Thornley did. Now the claim is the trash bag killerer, Carrie Thornley, 660 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:14.639 who would dismember his victims that mostly mel and put him in trash bags 661 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.639 much sort of the like the bag murder of New York around the same sort 662 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:23.079 of time Lily Dexter from the show Dexter the Serial Killer used to drop the 663 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:27.880 bags off into the ocean from his boat. That's right, yeah, yeah. 664 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:35.039 Now, Patrick Kearney's claim is that he went to military language school and 665 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:43.000 was in the same class as Lee Harvey Oswald. Harvey Lee Oswald, And 666 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.039 uh yeah, so I think that that's really sort of interesting right there. 667 00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.880 There's there's these connections to Oswald, right, and then this is this operation 668 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:59.159 Slashed intelligence aspect too, whereas were really anti government pro communist people or is 669 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.480 that just their part they were playing because they were quote unquote patriotic to the 670 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:07.440 bad element of our of our government, and they would playing there doing their 671 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.559 role, you know, right right, and uh, I mean Patrick Kearney 672 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:17.719 one of his hunting grounds was Mexico, Mexico City. Now talking about the 673 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.320 you know, there's speculation maybe he had some mob ties. But as I 674 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:29.119 recall, uh, for the Kennedy assassination, people who worked at O'Reilly Coffee 675 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:35.239 Company were promised jobs at NASA. Right now, that's interesting considering that Patrick 676 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.320 Kearney got a job at Hughes Aircraft with just a high school degree. I 677 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:49.440 mean he was an electrical engineer. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 678 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.960 yeah, that's weird. And I just thought about the processed church is 679 00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:59.440 do you realize that everywhere they set up a chapter there's a large organized crime 680 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:07.320 presence already in that area, Yes, New Orleans, San Francisco, La, 681 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:13.000 Chicago, Boston, New York. Yeah. And who runs those organized 682 00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.519 like if there's money to be made for black ops? I mean who who 683 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.159 do you think? Actually? You know, as you know, the mob 684 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.360 at that time was in bed with the with the c i A. Yeah, 685 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.159 so just go back to that your idea, like the overlord of this 686 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:34.039 whole sort of satanic crime wave is the c i A. Right, and 687 00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:37.920 the mafia. Yeah, and and that I think what happened in New York 688 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:42.320 with the like the Italian families, it was just it was a turf war 689 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.639 get between government agencies quote unquote government agencies and and the mob. It wasn't 690 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.440 that, right, we were fighting crime. No, they were just taking 691 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.679 over the territory. Nothing was going to change as far as the crime right 692 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.679 right, right. And now they learned how to do it from from the 693 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.719 from the Italians and said, okay, I think we can take it from 694 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:05.920 here, right. You know, of course you had you had Gaysey in 695 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.960 Chicago, we talked about him, but you also had the Weather Underground, 696 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.280 right, that is that's a huge element there too. That's yeah. I 697 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:20.519 mean that those guys for serious communists, they didn't even like music. Your 698 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.079 own he's isn't he like a professor somewhere? And yeah, yeah, he's 699 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:27.119 a he's a professor. And it's funny because that you know, who got 700 00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:31.599 arrested. Where are the beards, the like FBI informants. Yeah, like 701 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.599 that's why, that's why people one of the reasons people thought Jimmy Carter was 702 00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:39.880 so stupid. He totally f that whole operation up. Uh. But the 703 00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:45.119 interesting thing about the Weather Underground is that they tried to go to California in 704 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.079 the seventies, or they did, and they tried to court the Brotherhood of 705 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:55.760 Eternal Love originally run are sort of a LSD mafia, hippie mafia is what 706 00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:02.440 they're also known as. Now. The interesting thing is that Ronald Starks was 707 00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:09.360 running sort of the accountant of the of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, and 708 00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:15.440 they were there because no one wanted to join the Weather Underground. They were 709 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:20.159 trying to merge with the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, trying to get new members 710 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:25.320 and all that had their numbers. But Ronald Starks is also thought as a 711 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:31.000 it's a suspect to be Grand Chingan for the Four Pea Colts. Huh. 712 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:37.480 That name Starks or Stark is also something that pops up in old history of 713 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:43.000 this country in eugenics too. Yeah. Yeah, So whether I don't know 714 00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.519 if there's any relation or not, but there's another Starks sort of Stark that 715 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:50.719 pops up to well, I think I think it. Well, the two 716 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.679 big suspects right now is Stark and William Joseph Brian. I think it's William 717 00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.400 Joseph Brian because he's described as a large man and we and Joseph Ryan was 718 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.559 like three hundred and fifty pounds and Spark had his hands full dealing with the 719 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.880 weather underground in the summer of nineteen seventy. So that either one of those 720 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:13.639 that are seeing as a Grand King John Ching Gun like a suspect for the 721 00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.039 Grand King Gun. Yeah. Yeah. The allegation for William Joseph Bryant came 722 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:25.239 from David Sylviey's book Project Artichoke, who was a participant. But if you 723 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.719 buy the book, I should warn you how only half of it is edited 724 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:35.679 because he died during the editing process. And that's why I don't think it's 725 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.000 like some deep state propaganda type of thing. Is they would have paid to 726 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.960 have the rest of the book edited. So when you buy the book, 727 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:47.840 only half of it's edited. And the kids just wanted I guess they just 728 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.320 wanted it out there so they don't have to deal with it. So you 729 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.559 know, that's a pretty lazy way of doing it, Like this is on 730 00:59:55.559 --> 01:00:00.599 his computer published. It's like, come on, man, I think he 731 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:02.119 was under He might have been under contract, so he had they had to 732 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.000 publish it, but they didn't spend any money to have the rest of the 733 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.440 thing edited, right right right. I mean I do my own editing when 734 01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:12.679 I do stuff like that, which isn't the best, but I mean it's 735 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.800 I'm really I try to be meticulous, but they always miss something. Like 736 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.840 I read lots of books, so I always noticed I always catch certain things 737 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.639 in other people's well edited books that there's mistakes all the time. There's always 738 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:28.519 do better than me. I can't even see the edit that sucks, man, 739 01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.440 I do audio books, and way I do my research is audiobooks, 740 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.119 calf Death program to kill dot Net. Shout out to George and Patrick. 741 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:42.880 Hey guys out there, listen to me right now. If you have audio 742 01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.800 books that you think would be of interest, let us know. What's your 743 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.800 email address, you know, have to put it up. I'll give it 744 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:51.599 to you. I'll I if anything comes my way, I'll make sure that 745 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:57.280 way they're not getting bombarded. But okay, I used the newspaper archives because 746 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.800 I can change the contrast and the size and every Yeah. Yeah, there's 747 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.320 one called Transhumanism, The History of a Dangerous Idea by David Livingstone. He's 748 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.679 going to be coming on next Friday. It's not up on the calendar yet, 749 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:14.320 but I yeah, that's gonna be a fun one. And I mean, 750 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:15.800 Todd, if you want to come back on and maybe we can do 751 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:21.519 like a a kind of like a group talk and get into some more stuff 752 01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:27.000 with some more people that have a finder, you know, related work details, 753 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.519 stuff like that. That would be a lot of fun. Are you 754 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:35.880 familiar with doctor Joseph Farrell's work. I heard the name. I think I've 755 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:40.119 heard William Ramsey discuss him, but I'm not you should check out doctor Joseph 756 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:45.400 Farrell when he's on the Walter Bosley channel when they talk about trans temporal warfare. 757 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.239 Okay, I mean, it's it's it will blow your mind. It's 758 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.679 it's it's that good. It's that good. I'm running it down right now. 759 01:01:54.360 --> 01:02:00.480 Trans temporal warfare. Yep, Okay, that's that's awesome. And then, 760 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:02.119 like I said, if I can never get in touch with the Riding 761 01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.920 Jewels, I think this would be a good pairing as well, only because 762 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.920 it's like, Okay, you can say Satanic panic and you can point at 763 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:16.000 the you know, the carnival aspect of Satanism and make everybody feel stupid, 764 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:24.880 But you can't let three child murderers go in Arkansas in West Memphis because they 765 01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:30.000 are all racists and they're all white trash. Big it wasn't true the murdered. 766 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.400 They murder those children, you know what I mean. So, I 767 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.480 mean this can be used as a weapon to let psychopaths run free. And 768 01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.800 they did eighteen years of prison. They're back out doing their thing, right, 769 01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.559 more money than we do. And he's a piece of shit, right 770 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:51.679 right, I mean, just think, but just think of the cleverness of 771 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.320 the whole like Church of Satan thing, like the whole aspect of it. 772 01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.440 It's just Athianism with rituals, right, because the greatest trick the devil ever 773 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.719 pulled was making you think he didn't exist. This would imply he had to 774 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:09.159 take himself out of the out of the equation, because if the devil doesn't 775 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:15.199 exist, then God doesn't exist, okay, and then you're free to do 776 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.679 whatever you want to do. And whatever you want to do is the stuff 777 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:22.280 the devil likes, right, Yeah, if you have no restraints on yourself. 778 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.440 And that's why I think the lst the play too, because when you 779 01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:30.400 rode a wall, and that's what's happening, you're you're you're you're expanding your 780 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.719 mind, but you're also roading a wall both ways. They let think, 781 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.239 they keep things out, yeah, and they let and they and they and 782 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:42.199 they prevent you from going too far right. So, if you don't have 783 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.719 a good moral background, and you don't have a good you know, tether 784 01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:50.239 to God or your or or to you know, ethics and morality, and 785 01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.800 you rode that wall, then they're gonna they're gonna fill it with their their 786 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:58.800 culture. They're popular sitting right outside of the other side, and they're gonna 787 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:03.599 write these these this grand ching On. He's kind of like Hannibal Lecter, 788 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:11.840 right, yeah, all he needs to have a conversation with you, like 789 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:16.239 people talk about hypnosis or they talk about drugs and stuff like that, but 790 01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:23.199 good old fashioned persuasion sometimes does the trick. And all he has to do 791 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.239 is sit down and have a conversation with you, and he'll even make you 792 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:31.679 think it's your idea. Yeah, right, And the power of ulation. 793 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:38.719 They brought that up because I think it wasn't. Wasn't Manson as well referred 794 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:45.119 to On. Yes, there's no there's no doubt that he was involved in 795 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.119 some way, but he wasn't the grand ching On because Manson's like one hundred 796 01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:54.519 and fifty pounds soaking wet, right description. Yeah, Manson liked to sort 797 01:04:54.559 --> 01:05:00.199 of borrow ideologies from different groups, Like he borrowed from the Helter Skill Alter 798 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.280 stuff from Fountains of the World. Oh that wasn't even okay, Yeah, 799 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:10.440 yeah, And he borrowed like ideology and ideas from the Processed Church. So 800 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:17.159 he's just sort of made a gulage of a stew of shitty ideas basically, 801 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:23.559 Yeah, they they said he was very very manipulative and very very good at 802 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:30.199 Yeah, who trained him? Because he just wake up you know, well, 803 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:33.239 you know he has his scientology connections. But it's what's interesting is we 804 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.840 all know about like the LSD and the sex and stuff like that, But 805 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:41.440 do you know he'd play word games with the girls when they're on LSD, 806 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.960 meaning like kind of implant triggers like puns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 807 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:50.119 yeah, so words don't mean the same thing anymore. And yeah, he 808 01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:57.239 just breaking down, like yeah, basically breaking them down. Yeah, with 809 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.320 no foundation, you have nothing, no frame of reference anymore. Right, 810 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.519 right, And while we were talking about the wall stuff. But do you 811 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:09.960 know what someone with no boundaries is called? What a psychopath? Oh, 812 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:15.760 sociopath too, when they have no emotion attachment. Well, a psychopath is 813 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.360 someone that you're usually born with psychopathy. That's a lot of people get this 814 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:26.800 wrong. Psychopathy is genetic. Sociopathy is not. Sociopathy is created with like 815 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:31.280 abuse and early life trauma. Dexter is not a psychopath. He is actually 816 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:38.519 a sociopath. Gotcha right with with with it? With a code? Right, 817 01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:42.960 there's and there's a lot of psychopaths who don't kill anybody. They're like 818 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.239 firefighters, people who have don't have the fear response, so they can rush 819 01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:49.480 into a burning building it's still and like save somebody. Yeah, it's not 820 01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:55.039 necessarily an urge to do that, but it could be like you're really good 821 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.800 at Wall Street, you know, yeah, taken advantage of people or something 822 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.239 because you have no better you know, that'd be like the law of escalation. 823 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.519 Yes, this is how I do it, but if I do it 824 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.119 this way, I'll be more effective at it. Yeah. Yeah, and 825 01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.000 that's it becomes greed and you know this, that and the other. You 826 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:14.760 don't ask yourself if if it's uh, if it's more, if it's morally 827 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.360 right to do it, if if it benefits you just say, yeah, 828 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:20.800 I'm not gonna do I'll do it. You know. Psychopaths are like drawn 829 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.119 to jobs where they have control over people. Like the number one job for 830 01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:30.559 psychopaths is like a clergyman or a priest. Surprise, surprise everybody, right, 831 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.880 And then you you have like bosses and corporate leaders somewhere, like number 832 01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:41.800 six is like a police officer. So uh, Jason Rivera asked, is 833 01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.320 that doctor Joseph farah f E r r A from World Next No Pharaoh, 834 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:49.400 Pharaoh f E R R A l L. That's what I thought I heard 835 01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:51.559 you say. Yeah, So there you go to Jason. That way, 836 01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.840 you're looking at the right person. Oh man, if you want, if 837 01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.719 you want to be something to scare the hell out of you, go watch 838 01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:02.760 his uh two part lecture the Secret Space Program Conference of twenty fifteen. That 839 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:08.960 thing that, oh my god, just scared the the jeebus, you know, 840 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:12.679 the hebgb's out of me, you know, the stuff he was talking 841 01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.159 about of twenty fifteen. And I'm gonna write that down because I want to 842 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.319 get the Bejesus scared out of me later. I mean, I'm doing my 843 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:24.079 work. So Todd, let me ask you this. This is a very 844 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:28.000 important question, the most important question of the whole entire show. Do you 845 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:32.119 like hot sauce? Do I like hot sauce sometimes? Okay, depends is 846 01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:35.159 there and as long as there's no sugar in it, I can have it. 847 01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:40.640 I don't do sugar, but I do make a lot of hot sauce. 848 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.239 I have like thirty plus varieties that I make. And I've been dating 849 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.520 for about ten years. I will find your information out after this show, 850 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:50.439 and I will send you a bottle. Look at that. Awesome. You 851 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:54.079 got it, buddy, I had a really good time. If you here, 852 01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.760 there anything else you want to talk about, If there's anything you want 853 01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.800 to put on the screen. I know you say don't do social media, 854 01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:00.920 and that makes sense because I couldn't find very much. That's why i'd ask 855 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.039 you if you had a picture. But then I just kind of made like 856 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:09.399 a nice little thumbnail for us. Yeah, you know, yeah, I'm 857 01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:14.439 not into people taking my picture just because I can't. I don't even like 858 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.479 Walart because it's just a blur to me, you know how long? Yeah, 859 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.119 people, if people want to find me, if they just check out 860 01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:26.119 the Walter Bosley channel, first Wednesday of every month, we do California, 861 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.279 but watch all of Walter Bosley's videos. We got one coming up tomorrow. 862 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.199 It should be a real good one. Let me, I'm gonna put this 863 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.279 on the screen. I'm I'm pretty sure I have the type of the U 864 01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:42.479 S B U S L E Y right yeah, all right, so I'm 865 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:45.239 gonna I'm gonna show you this real quick, and they're gonna pop up the 866 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:51.079 other screen real quick. So that is okay, it slow. So the 867 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.159 Walter Bosley Show. But here's the other thing I was gonna show you guys, 868 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.319 and that is the YouTube. I'll put this in the in the link. 869 01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:01.680 It's already in the in the chat, but this is the link that 870 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:05.279 goes right to the California episodes. So the ability those are the ones that 871 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:10.279 you are typically on. Do you go on other episodes of the bultiposle is 872 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:15.159 typically just the California Uh No, it's typically just California, Okay, Because 873 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:20.319 I know that this is sort of my main I don't consider myself a scholar. 874 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:24.640 I don't consider I don't even consider myself a researcher. I'm just the 875 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.399 random blue collar guy who likes looking up stuff. But that is the main 876 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:34.279 focus of the stuff I look up is a cult, ritual murder, and 877 01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.760 you know, just the occult in general. And in this period of time, 878 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:43.960 I think the nineteen sixties through the nineteen seventies into the eighties is the 879 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:48.800 most interesting time in American history for me because there's so many stones just left 880 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:54.479 unturned and so many things left to be discovered. And when we didn't talk 881 01:10:54.520 --> 01:11:00.680 about but I have actually discussed this over of course of the last week or 882 01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:04.760 so because it ties into River Phoenix was the Children of God? Yes, 883 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:09.359 I don't know, like I know, there's like the didn't the processed Church 884 01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:14.720 turned into like the the foundation Church of the New Millennium and then just the 885 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.039 of the new Millennium? Yeah? Yeah, name changes? Yeah? What 886 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:19.960 was the best did the animals? Thing? Is? That? Is that 887 01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.800 processed church too? With the Best Friend the Best Friends Animal Shelter. But 888 01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:30.159 yeah, I remember Marianne McLain and Robert de Grimston got divorced, so that 889 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:34.000 this is more Marianne to claim mcclaims thing like the Best Friends Animal Shelter. 890 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:41.279 Okay, of course she's Now what's interesting about her is she is uh suspected 891 01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:46.359 of being part of the Perfumo scandal in London, which is interesting, which 892 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:50.159 was a sort of sex scandal with a lot of politicians in London or in 893 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:56.560 England, uh and prostitution into the honeypot thing where they're doing the honeypopp thing. 894 01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:00.079 And supposedly she dated Sugar Ray Robinson who had a pro to fake a 895 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:05.239 precognitive dream about killing somebody in a boxing match in nineteen forty seven and it 896 01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:10.359 came true. Wow, So they're into the Ashra projection and all that stuff 897 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:15.079 too. Then I'm imagined, right, And so I don't know if you 898 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:18.199 read Mirror Monster. William Ramsey sort of turned me on to it, but 899 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:26.439 apparently supposedly to David Berkerwitz met dig Remston, but then he had his doubts 900 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.840 because he didn't look like his pictures. But according to this book, they 901 01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:35.880 may have met at one of the cult sort of gatherings. That's another perfect 902 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:41.720 example when you look at Berkowitz's past in the military and then you say, 903 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:45.359 okay, so government program perhaps right, well, the breaking of his of 904 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:51.840 his psyche because he wasn't quite I mean, he wasn't mentally disturbed enough to 905 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:56.359 be in the military, So it sound like he was born he was mental 906 01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:00.800 defective prior to his military experience. It seems like something that it was done 907 01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.760 to him, you know. And then because he is kind of touched, 908 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:06.760 I mean, he got a you know, and I think he's a he's 909 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:11.239 a newly found Christian as the last five ten years ago, right, He's 910 01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:16.079 he's a great He's a great source David Berkowitz because the way he describes it, 911 01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:20.880 he describes it like terrorism, right, it's it's it's uh, it's 912 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:26.960 anarchy and terrorism, and it was their Their job was to create chaos, 913 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.560 like he literally says it. Yeah, so that's all there to go right 914 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:35.479 there, I mean, flat out yeah. Only question was is seventy six 915 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:41.000 and the seventy seven election year in New York? Was it for mayors or 916 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:44.039 governors or something? I don't know. I've never thought the look because I 917 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:47.279 was so focused on the California type of stuff. But that would be interesting, 918 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:51.560 wouldn't it. Yeah. And uh, that's the other thing too, 919 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:56.920 is like they don't think that he was either the only guy or the actual 920 01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:00.399 guy, because I mean he was, he was one of many. Yeah, 921 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.359 yeah, that's yeah. But that John Carr and Michael Carr of course. 922 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:11.399 Uh, like to get even deeper into the weeds, you have John 923 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:16.560 Carr, who is an Air Force guy who was stationed a military another military 924 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:20.720 member, right, right, it's stationed in North Dakota, right, the 925 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:27.359 same place Arles Perry is from. Of course, Arlett Perry gets a cult 926 01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:32.199 ritual murdered in seventy four by Manson, orchestrated by Manson. The second thought 927 01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:39.479 that be William Minzer. Right, So this this spider's web it keeps growing 928 01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:45.359 and growing and growing. That's very interesting, especially, oh man, I 929 01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.399 mean, you could go on and on with this, the way the way 930 01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:54.239 this just spirals. And again it's so much seems like it's controlled by the 931 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:58.159 various people that because I mean, look at this. If there were so 932 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.760 many people screaming and clamoring saying that this isn't the whole story with with Berkowitz, 933 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.359 and yet the police investigation shut the doors and everything else. So it's 934 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:09.199 like, yeah, we're done, we got we gave you a face. 935 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.680 We're out of our way. So it's almost like that was controlled too. 936 01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.359 It's like, right right on the investigation, you got a person. Let's 937 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:17.720 move on, you know, move on right, Well, do we have 938 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:24.239 any more questions? Uh, we can do. We can ask give people 939 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:28.680 a couple of seconds of response. I know there's a tiny, tiny delay. 940 01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:30.600 If there's anything else you want to discuss in the million, I'm gonna 941 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.199 look. I'm looking in here too to see if there's a well, I'm 942 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:38.800 gonna plug. Walter Bosley's new book, Nimsa, How America Sold It Soul 943 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:45.960 a very interesting read, very interesting about the proto Nazis operating in sort of 944 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:51.000 the eighteenth century into the early nine I mean the nineteenth century into the early 945 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:56.520 twentieth century. Very interesting. So what's the name of the book. I'm 946 01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.760 gonna type it and see if I can find a website and put it up 947 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.840 for you. Oh sure, it's well, it's available at lulu dot com. 948 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:10.000 But it's it's Nimza How America sold its seul n y m z A. 949 01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:16.560 Yeah. He also talks at the twenty fifteen Secret Space Program conference. 950 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.279 I notice he does. He doesn't models too, Oh yeah, yeah, 951 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:30.680 yeah, sol Oh there it is right there, bam Walter Bosley. All 952 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.039 right, cool. Once I put it up on the screen, I'll do 953 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:38.199 one of these guys. You guys have last last call for questions too. 954 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.159 Sometimes these are tough times because some people will be We're good. Well, 955 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:46.560 actually not after sex, that's okay, you know, just whenever you start 956 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:54.720 playing the semi sonic song closing time there. Yeah, so there is. 957 01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.840 It's how America sold its soul. Let me get this other way and that 958 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:04.279 is. Walter Bosley explores the darker implications of America's post World War Two relationship 959 01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:09.960 with the enemy and how a medieval method of invasion and conquest was used against 960 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:13.720 the Allied victors. This is an examination of a political, financial, and 961 01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:19.000 societal compromise of the United States by an organization with the roots dating back centuries 962 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:26.000 NIMS how America sold its soul. And that's it. So there you go, 963 01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:30.199 and what we will do. If anybody has links to books that they 964 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:35.279 would recommend that you can find an audio book for I want you to send 965 01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:41.319 me the link the information. I will give that list of whatever somebody sends 966 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:46.079 to me to Todd, let him improves and decide whether or not he wants 967 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:49.359 one of them or not, and then we can help flor you know, 968 01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:54.880 help him get some some more interesting things to read. I think that would 969 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:57.399 be a great idea. And it's be very kind if you guys out there 970 01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:03.000 would do that. All right, And that's it, Todd, last last, 971 01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.840 uh last talks not good. Oh yeah, it was a great time. 972 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:10.880 Thank you so much for having me. I am so honored to be 973 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.159 here on here with you, uh and uh. I wish everybody in the 974 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:18.760 chat well, and thank you for coming out and listening. All right, 975 01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:21.960 that's it, guys, thank you so much, and we will be thank 976 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:27.760 you for having me. Dude, I was more than happy to have you 977 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:32.000 on. I was really enjoying what I had heard from like William Ramsey. 978 01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.840 I I kind of binge what listened to him when I when I do these 979 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:39.159 long drives back and forth of San Diego. So that was that was great. 980 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:45.039 And then I'm going to by your you know, examples here the things 981 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:48.439 that you recommended. I'm going to go hit up mister Bosley's station channel and 982 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:53.279 I'm going to get some of those under my belt too. So I appreciate 983 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:57.039 all of your work, all of your time, and thank you for being 984 01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.880 so insightful in the things that we were discussing today. I learned something, 985 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.279 so thank you, thank you. And for those of you out there, 986 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.960 I'm going to talk to him a little bit offscreen, so you know the 987 01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:13.720 description beneath the picture that you're watching, all the links for all the stuff. 988 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.640 All right, help out the show please, and I'd greatly appreciate it. 989 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:17.840 Thank you,