WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:05.719 Streamy Live. I mean, iHeartRadio. Wow. This is I on the 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:12.480 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.160 welcome back to Win the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, 4 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:20.000 He's Jake with he. Now we have breaking news from Jacob Oh. Yeah, 5 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:26.879 I forgot about that. Okay, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. 6 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:32.920 All right, some huge news actually, Steve on not related to football, 7 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.439 basketball, baseball or anything like that. Tiger would Oh, I saw 8 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:42.640 the Tiger Woods ending his relationship with his partnership with Nike. I mean that's 9 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.560 like, you know, he and Michael Jordan are the ones, right, 10 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:52.200 the turn helped to both sides. Yeah. Woods, his tenure, he 11 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:58.000 had a ten year what was it, God, I had it right here. 12 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.319 He had a ten year, two hundred million dollar agreement that he signed 13 00:01:03.319 --> 00:01:07.799 in twenty thirteen, so that they've come to the end of that agreement. 14 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.599 That was after a five year, forty million dollar agreement that he signed when 15 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.719 he was twenty years old, so he hadn't even played, you know, 16 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:21.079 any professional golf and Nike signed him. They got into the equipment as well 17 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.040 as the apparel and he you know. I mean, if you think about 18 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.200 Nike and how Nike became Nike, you think of Michael Jordan, and you 19 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:30.640 think of you know, especially with golf, because they were not in the 20 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.640 golf landscape right there they were. Now, let me ask you something. 21 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.200 So ten years he's finishing up his ten year contract. Now twenty thirteen, 22 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:45.840 he said, So, wasn't that after his his divorce or during the heyday 23 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.680 of the divorce, because I think it was like twenty eleven. I could 24 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:53.280 be wrong after that. So they signed him with all that money despite despite 25 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.719 all the bad publicity. They knew he was going to be back right sure, 26 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.400 but he kind of wasn't. But they still hung with him. Know, 27 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.879 they're hung with him. And look again, if you if you think 28 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:07.519 about why Nike is Nike, it's because of him and Michael Jordan, and 29 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.599 so the fact that that that they stuck with him on that, you know, 30 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.680 it meant a lot to them. But you know, a few years 31 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.960 ago, I can't remember, a few years ago, Nike decided to get 32 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.960 out of the equipment piece of it. They've just they slowly try it, 33 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.319 you know, slipping out of it. They've still got They're still doing golf, 34 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.719 but it's really just clothing now, it's not it's not equipment. It's 35 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:32.800 not golf balls anymore. Uh uh Tigers with Taylor Made, he's using Bridgestone 36 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.800 golf balls, which I'm sure is doing a whole lot for those companies. 37 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.360 But you know, they've been kind of getting out of it anyways. But 38 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:44.560 you know, uh there, you know, it's it's sort of a changeover. 39 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.120 I think Nike ultimately will get completely out of it. That's what it 40 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.199 looks like they're doing. Yeah, and that's that's probably best for them as 41 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:53.879 well. Okay, don't get a big news. Yeah, so that was 42 00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:00.000 that was huge years. The new Hall of Fame class for the College Football 43 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.639 Hall of Fame is out. One of our we'll call him a friend because 44 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:07.919 he's been on the show. Tim Couch made made the made the Hall of 45 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.919 Fame. A couple of other names in there, Randy Moss made it. 46 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.719 Toby Gerhart, who we all thought should have won a Heisman Trophy a number 47 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:22.599 of years ago. Uh got in. Frank Solich, who was the coach 48 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.360 at Nebraska and anything. Nebraska still feels like they probably never should have fired 49 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.439 the guy because they haven't had that good a coach. Uh. Since then, 50 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:38.400 guys still coughing up a coughing up along over here. But the classes 51 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.680 out, Uh, you know, it's been there. It's been a while 52 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:45.159 since Arizona's gotten a guy in there. I think that the next guy that 53 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:51.840 the local chapter is working to get in is gonna be Antoine Casa, who 54 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.400 won the who won the Thorpe Award way back in the day. Yeah, 55 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:58.439 we had Antoine as well, not too long ago. Well you were, 56 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.879 we've had It's been a while. And then uh, just you know, 57 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.680 lots of little stuff. You know, you've got the NFL things. Uh. 58 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:12.879 The Atlanta Falcons coach got fired after he he and uh you saw that. 59 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.240 Did you see the thing with the New Orleans Did you listen to the 60 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.399 did you listen to the commentary? Uh? After it happened. It was 61 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:23.199 interesting because because he was pissed that he gets caught on and they were already 62 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.839 getting the resk kicked. Uh. And one of the commentators, I don't 63 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.639 know who, he says, hey, man, I'll fare in love in 64 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.759 football. Man. If you can't, if you can't let him score, 65 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.839 can't prevent them from scoring. That's on you, right, And now it's 66 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.720 it's great. It's sort of a little bit, I know you'd call it 67 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:41.079 an uproar, but just a little bit of controversy within the Saints because, 68 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.160 you know, uh uh, the guy, for Florida's sake, the quarterback 69 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:53.519 who called that, the King Crab guy, James Winston. Apparently the call 70 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.759 was to take a knee. They did kind of the thing like in Rudy, 71 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:00.959 right, if you're seen the movie Rudy, where they where they told 72 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.800 him, you know, victory formation taken knee, and instead they ran a 73 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.480 place and scored a touchdown so they could get Rudy in the game. That's 74 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.519 how the movie went. That's what really happened, but that's how the movie 75 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.720 went. Sure that they wanted a guy to get a touchdown, they didn't 76 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.800 take a knee. He got he got his touchdown, and he set off 77 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:21.879 the Atlanta coach and he and he lit up the uh uh coach Allen the 78 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.920 Saints coach at at at Midfield, He apologized at his press conference that our 79 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.680 call was we were taking the knee. Our call was to take a knee. 80 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.920 The team took it upon themselves to do it, and then Jamis Winston 81 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:38.040 said yeah, we we decided that we felt our guy deserved a touchdown. 82 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.040 So there comes from the line of, uh, just do it and ask 83 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.160 for an apology later or apologize later. I can't. There's a praise for 84 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:47.399 that, uh you know that for for goodness, and that's what they did, 85 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.519 which makes which it's the last game of the year or last play of 86 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.759 the year, right, you know, and so h well, sorry, 87 00:05:54.839 --> 00:06:00.680 my bad, my bad. Sorry anyways, Okay, so Arizona, Arizona 88 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.480 man have moved up to U number eight eight in the a P. You 89 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:10.800 know what, you know what it matters not step again, you're just blowing 90 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:14.000 the conversation. We're just kind of have some fun with the conversation. You. 91 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.560 I'll get your breaking news right here. Yeah, yeah, you if 92 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.920 you know what you did, the damn breaking news. Okay, I'll go 93 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.920 sit over here. I'm not saying it's good news. I'm just saying it 94 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:29.120 doesn't. That's up to spots from number ten. They leaped over Illinois. 95 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.319 Who else? Who else dropped? I'm looking at whose dropped? Marquett dropped 96 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:40.319 four spots they have and there's a new number one, Houston, Houston on 97 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.839 the a P. Are you sure I'm looking at it right now. Oh, 98 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:45.279 because produced all up there. I guess they must have moved up in 99 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.439 the coaches or something. Maybe because I thought Houston was the number one, 100 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:51.439 Houston moved up from two to one. Now Houston is up over Kansas. 101 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.879 So wait, wait, you said two to one. What did you say? 102 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.800 I mean what two three to two? Three moved We've got Purdue, 103 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:04.759 you got Huge is up over Kansas, dropped three. They had eighty three 104 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:09.800 eighty one win against DCU. Then you got Yukon, Tennessee, Kentucky, 105 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.279 North Carolina, Arizona, Oklahoma, Illinois. That's that's your top ten. 106 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:19.319 Still nobody else from them. So the one the one thing that I get 107 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.160 out of you know, I listened to watch these things Facebook comments and Twitter 108 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:27.199 comments from these fans who love this team, which they should. It's a 109 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.040 very good team. And the one thing they say, it's consistent. If 110 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:34.279 Arizona plays the game they should be playing, they can beat anybody. Right 111 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:40.160 if this show was in Kentucky, what's the fan saying, If we can 112 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.439 play the way Kentucky plays, we can beat anybody. If this show was 113 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.199 in Houston, they're saying the same thing. Because there's other good teams out 114 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.800 there. Right, Arizona is very good, but let me say there's another 115 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:58.519 good team over there and over there and over there. So just just temper 116 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.160 that with reality not over here, because they're not not over here in Washington, 117 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.360 Oregon, California or California. Yeah, yeah, there's not. I 118 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.000 mean, I don't even know who will finish second. Yeah, after after 119 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:18.079 Arizona, the next sized team getting boats Colorgan or not even Colorado anymore. 120 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.439 After the forty seven point beat down, Oh I take back they did. 121 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:28.120 They got eight voats eight points in the voting, So you got you got 122 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:33.360 Colorado, and then you got Oregon and then Utah even got a couple after 123 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.039 they're beatdown. So it's a it's not good. On the women's side. 124 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:46.080 There's still I think six PAC twelve teams on the women's side. Arizona's not 125 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.279 one of them, although they are getting boats. But on the women's side, 126 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.480 you've got U C l A number two, they're still fourteen and oh 127 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.360 you've got Colorado. It's thirteen and one, which Arizona had it has to 128 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:03.320 beat them. Then they went up the road and beat Arizona State. You 129 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.799 got, you got Stanford was normally on number one or number two. They're 130 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.240 all the way down at number eight at fourteen and one. USC is at 131 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.759 number nine at twelve and one. So you got four teams in the top. 132 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.799 Yeah. Yeah, that's the total opposite of the men's side, right, 133 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.480 and then of course Yukon, I mean not Yukon, South Carolina remains 134 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:30.480 number one. They're fourteen and oh I what number three with Caitlin Clark, 135 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.879 they'd beat Rectors one with three to sixteen. Do you say there was a 136 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.919 game I was listening. Let you heard this on the radio. Grambling State 137 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:45.960 women they'd beat Sony badly played something called like some Bible study college college, 138 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.799 some Biblical studies or something like that, and God was not on their side. 139 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.840 One fifty six to eighteen was not scoring baskets. Well, somebody said 140 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:58.320 that God's going to bring down from Holy Allen Grable State for doing that too. 141 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.720 If we're doing that to a Bible holidays now entering the throne or not 142 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.759 into heaven. Gramley State, Sorry, not allowed. You missed the door 143 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.000 back there, that one that's really hot on the outside, that's where you're 144 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.120 you're in the wrong door. Wrong door, ron door Oh my god, 145 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.519 that that was. That just sounded that just sounded awful. All right, 146 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.440 So really not a whole lot else. I'll throw this one out there. 147 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.360 You're right. It was big game Boomer put out a way way too early. 148 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:35.320 Twenty twenty twenty four Top twenty five. He's got Georgia at number one, 149 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:41.799 Oregon and number two. Remember they're gonna have the the Oklahoma Dylan Gabriel. 150 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.200 Yeah, that's specifically why they probably put them there, because they don't 151 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.600 lose much in quarterback. He's got Old miss coming in at number three, 152 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:56.159 Michigan at number four, Alabama five, Texas six, and then there was 153 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.159 own Arizona at seven. I had a hold on to your hats here. 154 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:07.039 I had of Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Missouri, who went thirteen 155 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.840 and one, I think is what they did, or twelve to one, 156 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.080 something like that. Thirteen and one. You've got Oklahoma, Penn State, 157 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.960 Tennessee, West Virginia, and North Carolina State makes up the next five. 158 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.200 The only other school he's got he's got two schools in the top twenty five 159 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.559 from the PAC twelve. Oh they're not the PAC twelve. Ay, We're 160 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.720 sorry. He's got Utai in there. He's got Washington in there at twenty 161 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.440 five. So anyways, interesting stuff. Okay, Oh, did you mention 162 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.639 the you've got the coaching changes Atlanta coach the Washington Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera 163 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.399 is out. Oh I had no Washington. Yeah, that came shorty this 164 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.879 morning. Okay, So he's out and I'm sure there'll be some more. 165 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.600 What's the odds on on Tonio Pierce getting the head job at Oakland? You 166 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:56.480 know you're the thought that, well, all the discussion is Jim Harbaugh. 167 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.039 Oh, there are San Diego Jim, that Jim Harmer is going to get 168 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.759 an NFL job. This is the last game at Michigan. That San Diego 169 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.960 is the most likely thing. But you know, there was a lot of 170 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.519 discussion earlier, earlier before that that he would go to the Raiders. But 171 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.639 I don't know, if you're the Raiders, how you not do not hire 172 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:20.039 Antonio Pears? I mean, the player. I'm sure they've been playing for 173 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.679 him. I'm sure the players want him, but you know you Okay, 174 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:26.440 So it was great for this half of the season. What happens when you've 175 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:30.559 got the whole season. You got to manage your roster you got to do 176 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.399 all those things. Yeah, they never work. And then typically players play 177 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.360 hard for the guy that's coming in to replace the guy that and you know, 178 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.200 what's it going to be like next year when you got to go through 179 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.799 preseason with them, what's gonna be like? Can he run? You know 180 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.960 in the NFL? Uh an NFL franchise, an NFL team, Because there's 181 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.320 more to it than picking up for you know, for things left off and 182 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.720 just finishing out the season. There's a lot more to do it than that 183 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.159 roster management. Here was a funny one. So Aaron Rodgers comes out and 184 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.000 make some comments about how you got to keep out the outside noise that were 185 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.120 terrible at that YadA YadA. When he was the idiot who went out who 186 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:13.159 went out and said publicly that that that that that you know that that Jimmy 187 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.919 Kimmel was was gonna be on on the Epstein list. When it's like, 188 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.279 dude, he's one created created, He created a mess that you know, 189 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.879 that got you know, completely getting talked about and saying we got to get 190 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.799 rid of those messes. That's why that's why we suck. Sure, that's 191 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.480 the guy, dude, No, it happens all the time the guy. 192 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:35.879 You know, I really really really liked him. I really did when when 193 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.799 when they won that Super Bowl at Green Bay. You know what, I 194 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.879 didn't like him coming out of that. Oh I know, he didn't run 195 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.320 for the Dutchdowns. I liked him. I liked him as a guy. 196 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.679 You know, I thought he was I thought he was sort of a humble 197 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.440 uh you know, kind of almost an average guy who was doing great and 198 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:58.120 then one and then when did a sour on you just kind of recently over 199 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.360 the last three, four or five years where you just kind of been a 200 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.799 complete distraction to his team, just always saying stupid stuff, you know, 201 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.200 where where it is. I kind of think it went to his head when 202 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.279 he started started dating hot celebrities, you know, Gen Danico, Patrick, 203 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.399 Olivia Mount. You know, he's all of a sudden he's out in the 204 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.159 celebrity world, and I think it all went to his head and he got 205 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.639 all messed up. How much does the charge to do you custom? Do 206 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.360 you take my uh my copey, I sit down in your couch. Yeah, 207 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.919 you can't eval you know, I Michael said, I charge you with 208 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:37.879 nickel and you get a worthy That's what it's worth. All right, Uh 209 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.200 okay, that's all I got. We got Jack McGruder gonna come on here 210 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.480 and talk about the championship game, which is gonna start in just a little 211 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:48.440 over an hour. He writes for sports Bettingdime dot com and and Forbes. 212 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.279 He's been analyzing the game, so we're gonna pick his brain on what he 213 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.120 sees. But I think he's gonna go Washington because he's been hot on their 214 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.679 on their uh, on their business for the whole season. 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We're trying to 287 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:12.359 reach out to to Jack mcgugor mister covering of the two night's championship, so 288 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.079 who he has. We're hoping to get ahold of them. We're not promising 289 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:21.440 now given our phone situation. I'm glad we had justin in in person. 290 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:27.599 That way, we had him for sure for a half hour. So yeah, 291 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.319 so we're gonna we're gonna try and have Jack give us a call see 292 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.839 if our phone is. It looks like it might not even be working and 293 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.640 then Nick Nick would Nick Nick can't solve any issues from home from there. 294 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:44.119 That's strange how this happens. Maybe the connection on the other side, well, 295 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.400 you know, wherever the phone is added to. Who knows? Who 296 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.000 would have you know dismissed that in the first place, but okay, we 297 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.920 see if Jack comes on the show one of the storylines. I wanted to 298 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:59.119 talk to Jack about it, and okay, so we can hear it. 299 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.079 Hello, you're on the air. Hey Jay, oh man, Okay, 300 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.000 Hey, how you doing. We weren't getting the dial tone on our phone, 301 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.920 so we thought it might be dead. We didn't. We don't know. 302 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.440 Heck, well, it's probably my phone. No no, no, 303 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.160 no, no no. We get literally we put on a phone line and 304 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.119 we couldn't get a dial tone, so we thought something was up with our 305 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.920 with our own phone. Here, thanks for thanks, Yeah, sure, 306 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.799 glad to be here. Before we get into the whole rigamarole of the game 307 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.920 tonight, let me ask you, there's two big storylines that I see that 308 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.680 they're kind of big, you know, the end of the Pac twelve era 309 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:40.319 could win with a national championship game in football, and or the the uh, 310 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.400 the whole controversy with Michigan, and I thought it would be poetic just 311 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.680 if they won this given their situation with all the signs stealing and the coach 312 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:51.519 being out for a long time, which is a bigger deal, which is 313 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:56.039 a bigger story. Oh, I think the PAC twelve demise as a bigger 314 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.000 story, which is so big in Arizona and on the West Coast. It's 315 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.519 just too bad. To me. It's too bad that you no money took 316 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:08.400 over and money dictated and TV contracts dictated. I think that's a bigger deal. 317 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:15.200 And mainly because I think there's so much under the radar about this science 318 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.160 situation. I'm sure this is not the only school that has ever done this, 319 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.559 and you know they didn't. There wasn't a big stink about it around 320 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.440 the country because people are probably thinking, you know, I'm not gonna I'm 321 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.920 not gonna call this out because somebody might think, you know, somebody might 322 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.640 think I'm doing the same thing. I just I think it's the PAC twelve 323 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.079 and that's that's really sad that the PAC ten is going to the tact is 324 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.200 going away. But what are we going to do about it? Yeah? 325 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.440 Yeah, all right. So it's you know, a huge game, and 326 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:47.119 you know the game everybody was hoping for the top two teams both undefeated. 327 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:49.119 I mean, you know, if you lay it out, this is the 328 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.000 way it was supposed to be. So first, let's do it this way. 329 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:57.119 Because I think you know, you and I have talked separately on text 330 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.599 messages. I think I know where you're leaning in terms who you think is 331 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.599 going to take the game. But give us your thoughts since you've been working, 332 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.880 you know, and analyzing this thing. What if X happens, Michigan 333 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.720 wins, if X happens, Washington wins. What are those exes? Yeah, 334 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:19.279 yeah, right, Well, I think if Michigan is able to control 335 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.640 the line of scrimage on offense, which they love to pound the ball with 336 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.039 Blake Kreham, if they're able to do that, you know, then they 337 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:33.519 control They control time of possession, they can control the clock, the field 338 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.039 position. If they can do that. Because you know, McCarthy's an okay 339 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:40.480 quarterback, I think, I mean, I think he's a good quarterback. 340 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.920 I don't think they win if they if he has to make plays, although 341 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.400 he did make a couple of nice plays against Alabama. You can't, I 342 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:51.519 can't take them away from him. But I think if they can control the 343 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:55.160 offense, if also if Michigan wins, if they can pressure Michael Pennick. 344 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.559 And the trouble is nobody's been able to pressure Michael PENNOCKX this year, right 345 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.720 that's I don't know how that plays into them. I think Washington wins if 346 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:10.519 Pennix is Penix, if Pennix makes the terrific throws that he's done, if 347 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.880 their offense continues to click the way they've done all year. You know, 348 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.720 they've had a couple of bad numerical games. Of course, they played in 349 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.720 the rain one time, and that's gonna hurt your stats. I just think 350 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:29.440 Washington Kaylin de Boor is my favorite guy right now. Yeah, I mean, 351 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.480 I love the way he runs an offense. He was an All American 352 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.599 wide receiver at a small college in South Dakota I think it was, and 353 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.559 then kind of gradually worked his way up the coaching ranks when he was a 354 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:44.480 head coach at President State and twenty twenty one, the year before he went 355 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.119 to Washington, he turned this guy Jake Hayner, a quarterback over there, 356 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.640 who's you know, a good quarterback, but he turned him into like a 357 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:57.039 superstar. I had thirty five touchdowns and seven interceptions or something remarkable like that. 358 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.559 They beat USC that year for ASD going to stay beat USC that year. 359 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:07.519 I think klein Degore understands offense understands how to get guys open, understands 360 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:12.599 how to make plays, and in a big game with a with a healthy 361 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:18.559 and full throttle panics, I just think they'll figure out a way to win. 362 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.599 So do you have a are you like Jay and you have a Heisman 363 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.599 vote? You know I used to I guess, I guess I was disbarred 364 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:33.759 there. I hope it was not from your picks? Was your picks? 365 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.880 But had you had one, Uh, where would you have gone with it? 366 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.359 Well? I think, you know, it's such a tough deal. 367 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.920 I mean, Jalen, Jayde and Daniel was a terrific player. Penis is 368 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.160 a terrific player. I probably would have gone with Penix though, just what 369 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:56.759 he did with Washington and uh they're undefeated, LS lost three games, and 370 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:02.799 Daniels had a terrific year. But I think winning has something to do with 371 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.920 it, especially at the quarterback position, because you're in charge of everything. 372 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:07.880 So I would have voted for him. I think, you know, Daniel's 373 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.039 had a nice year. There's other other guys you can think about, but 374 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:18.319 in the end, those two we're heading shoulders above. And I just like 375 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.759 Pennex's presence. I like the way he was able to He made some big 376 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.640 throws and big games and they were able to finish on the season. So 377 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:27.960 I would have I think I would have voted for him. You know, 378 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.640 I've been I've continued to I've continued to canvas for him even after the you 379 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.839 know, after the award. You know, people saying he keeps winning games 380 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.319 and keeps saying, you know, all these all these analysts and media are 381 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.960 saying what a great quarterback he is, and you know, he's gotten into 382 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.400 the National Championship game. This guy is incredible. He's hard to stop. 383 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:49.720 You know, Jim Harbor is gonna have a tough time to say. Okay, 384 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.839 butt heads, why didn't you guys who are all saying is vote for 385 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.440 him for the freaking Heisman Trophy? You should have won the Heisman Trophy? 386 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:03.720 And down to me hands. I read a good story about that from an 387 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.359 Oregon writer who I respect him that and he said, he's you know, 388 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.680 they they they looked at some of the votes. They looked on the you 389 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.880 know Twitter. Some guys are voting, like before the regular season's over with. 390 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.440 Some guys are voting, you know, it's after ten weeks or eleven 391 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.640 weeks or whatever. I mean, you know, that's really not the way 392 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.680 you do it. You evaluate the whole body of work and you pick a 393 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.480 guy after that, I mean, his his game against they beat Oregon in 394 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.359 the PAC twelve title game. He was good. You just you got to 395 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.920 wait till the whole thing's over with and then cast your vote. You know, 396 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.319 you can still vote for Jayden Daniels if you want to. You got 397 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.400 to wait for the whole thing to end. So the last time we had 398 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:47.640 you on, you were giving advice that you weren't giving. Jay was taking 399 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.599 advice from Jack mcgruter. I had no problem with that, and you said, 400 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.200 picked at your own risk. So I think you said you're going with 401 00:27:55.319 --> 00:28:00.039 Washington, or at least leading that way for uh tonight, for this game. 402 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.240 Yeah, oh yeah, I'll take the points. I'll take the points 403 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.880 in the National champion with two National Championship caliber teams. In fact, you 404 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:15.559 may, in fact you're you're you're doing you take the money line, I 405 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.279 guess. So okay, well no, no, because you said you said 406 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.519 you think they're gonna I think, miss I think Washington's gonna win. The 407 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.319 reason why I say, do you know what the numbers game? I think 408 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.440 you're right. I think they'll win the game. They'll figure out a way 409 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.839 to win the game. How about that, Although that that Texas game is 410 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.960 a little crazy wash. Yeah, no, no, what is some one? 411 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.880 And that's why you want to go five. The money line is up 412 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.200 plus one. That's that's a pretty good number if you're gonna go number. 413 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.920 Yeah, that's a great number for an undefeated team that knows how to win. 414 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.440 Sure. So you see, I just have a feeling that, you 415 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.559 know, Michigan has not seen a quarterback like Michael Pennix all year long, 416 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.319 because there's only one guy like that. And I yeah, and look, 417 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.000 Washington's got Washington's got the bruisers up front that you need. You know, 418 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.519 we were talking with Justin Speers a little bit ago that, you know, 419 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.039 in the in the in the middle two quarters of the of the Oklahoma Arizona 420 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.359 Almi Bowl, it just looked like Arizona's being you know, manhandled on the 421 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.920 on both lines because Oklahoma gets guys that Arizona doesn't get. You know, 422 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.960 they Oklahoma's got linemen like excuse me, like uh, Ohio State has, 423 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.400 like Michigan has, like Texas has, like even Georgia and Alabama have and 424 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.640 they were just manhandling Arizona because the zone doesn't have those guys. They've got 425 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.960 more, They've got good guys, but not to that level. And you 426 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.359 just thought that just seemed to take over during that game. Washington has those 427 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.279 guys, you know. I feel like Washington is going to be able to 428 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:44.599 protect Michael Pennix. I think he's been sacked eleven or twelve times this year. 429 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.319 They played fourteen games already. I mean, that's phenomenal. Part of 430 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.960 it, I'm sure is his offense because he delivers a quick often right, 431 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.759 No, he's stets three step drop and he's out and they hit one of 432 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.599 those guys in the flat or you know, sometimes they go along to Odunza. 433 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.799 He's a terrific player. But yeah, I don't, I don't they're 434 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.680 gonna Michigan are gonna have to pressure him. They haven't done a whole lot 435 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.880 of that. They're gonna have to pressure him to take him out of his 436 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.680 game, to make him ineffective. I mean, if they're gonna win, 437 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.799 and so I'm on your side on that, I don't. I don't think 438 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.880 they'll do that and be able to pick him up pick them apart a little 439 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.039 bit. I mean, and you know, in the back of my mind, 440 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:26.079 I'm always thinking the Big Ten is overrated. Yeah, that sticks in 441 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:34.359 the don't disagree with it either. They've got two and a half really good 442 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.359 teams and the half is Penn State. And beyond that, you know, 443 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.039 they're undefeated every year because the rest of the league just absolutely sucks. And 444 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.880 that's why they They got blistered in the bowl game this year. Right, 445 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:51.480 they did poor Iowa, you know where they get seven yards against Tennessee or 446 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.960 something like that, and they won the Yeah, won the western part of 447 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.400 the division. I mean that's yeah, your division champion average what like not 448 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.240 even points a game, like fourteen points or eighteen points a game or something 449 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.480 like that. That's that says as much about the league as anything that you 450 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.599 can be that bad and still be, you know, in the Big Ten 451 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.759 championship game. So I just think it to me, this this goes back 452 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.839 to those old Rose Bowls where the Big Ten come to the Rose Bowl and 453 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.640 they're facing the team that did stuff that they did that they didn't see all 454 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.200 year long, and the West Coast. Off of the West Coast teams always 455 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.559 knew how to pass the ball, and I know Big ten is getting better 456 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.839 at that, but the Pac twelve always knew how to beat them through the 457 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:40.680 pass USA UCLA. I mean, those guys it was that's a good that's 458 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.960 a good analogis I like that because that's what it looks like to me too. 459 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.759 Yeah, Michigan isn't isn't going to see this much and they're going to 460 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.240 have a little trouble with it. Yeah, it should be fun. Let 461 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:55.720 me throw this up, fourteen four pick Parley for the blub from DraftKings. 462 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.960 Okay for all of us here number two Washington to win straight up again. 463 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:06.039 It's Michigan Washington plus zero zero point five in the first quarter, Washington plus 464 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:10.279 three and a half at the half, and in Washington RUSUS Michigan over fifty 465 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:16.839 six total. I like that play. It's a fourteen party plus five twenty 466 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.759 five. You know the you know what, the worst bet in the betting 467 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.480 is Parlan. That's why they Washington, thank That's why there's so much fun 468 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.640 kind of Yeah. I mean, you can go three and one and lose 469 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.880 money. That's not a good. That's not I have a losing property. 470 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.480 But I've got Yeah, I like that too. Is it. Is it 471 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.599 the Michigan the Washington money line they're talking about, or just the point it's 472 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.920 Washington Washington, Yeah, just to win the game, which, of course 473 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.359 you said you'd like, and I don't mind that, but I think it's 474 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.799 the point zero five in the first quarter that kind of scares me. Who 475 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:57.920 gave that? It's it's Jeff Kings. Okay, that's hardest thing, isn't 476 00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.720 that? That first quarter is okay, you never know what you know, 477 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.960 there's fumble on the kick off. It's six, it's six twenty five. 478 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.039 So that's not a bout. That's not a bad bet. If you think 479 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.440 Washington's gonna win, that's that's a good way to go. Jack. You've 480 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.920 already tainted me. I couldn't take him to win because this stuff is the 481 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.000 last game of the year. I didn't listen to you all year when I 482 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:24.240 am now, oh, well, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 483 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.200 I apologize. Now, Washington's gonna win the game. You know, 484 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.599 Washington's gonna win the game. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm looking 485 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.480 forward to seeing how I'm looking to sit forward to seeing the line play. 486 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.400 If Washington hole Michigan back, which they've been able. You know, they 487 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.480 haven't been sacked all year. I think that's a big factor. And I 488 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.720 really, I mean, I hate to keep stressing this, but I really 489 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.079 think Kaylin de Boor is a good coach. They went into they went into 490 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.119 the PAC twelve championship game as a ten point underdog to Oregon. Can you 491 00:33:53.200 --> 00:34:00.119 believe that I watched these the press conference when they you know, the before 492 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.799 the championship game, and you could see at least I could see this looking 493 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.239 Duboor's eyes like, I mean, he doesn't care about the pointspread, obviously, 494 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.199 but can you believe you believe these guys are these guys thinking we're not 495 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.320 good enough to win this game. These guys are thinking we can't even come 496 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.480 close to winning this game. I could be he was asked about that. 497 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.719 You know, we we don't look at that. But we'll we'll we'll do 498 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.079 well. We you know, we'll be there, We'll we'll show up and 499 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.000 we'll play. And they sure did. All right, Jack, Okay, 500 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:40.320 so Washington by Washington by how much? Tonight touchdown to Okay? All right, 501 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.519 so we're good luck in the parlor, guys. Well, i I've 502 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.920 got at I just took Washington in the over because because because Yeah, it's 503 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.239 just it's like, as as I say all the time, life's too short 504 00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.440 to take the lander and the over. Jay is one of the last you're 505 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.480 over four and out and last year, all right, and these guys can 506 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.360 score both sides. Yeah, yeah, yeah you can. That's right, 507 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.480 all right, Jack, thank you, Hey, thanks about Jack. Good 508 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.480 duck back to black guys. That's fun tonight. Yeah. I don't, 509 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.880 I don't know. I Washington winning. Looking for that problem playing with that 510 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.119 party said the first it's the first thing that comes up in the in the 511 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.119 uh all right, anyway, while I'm down anyways, I'm not doing anything 512 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:27.039 else. I got Washington plus the five and over fifty six. That's where 513 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.079 I'm at. I love that bad oh look, and I you know, 514 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.320 I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna watch this game from start to finish. 515 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.400 Well by the time I get home, it'll it'll be just getting started. 516 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.480 But I'm watching this. It's gonna be fun. 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We got thirteen minutes. We take a call and 574 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.760 got a call this call. Hi, You're on the air and I on 575 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:52.119 the Ball. Happy New Year you guys. This is Gabe. How's it 576 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.119 going, Gabe? How are you happy? New Year? Sounds like we 577 00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:00.800 got happy Gabe today. Yeah. What's the word. Uh, I'm happy 578 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:08.239 that Arizona bounced back in the Mountain trip. I mean, when the Rocky 579 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:15.239 Mountain Schools came to McHale, I am happy with the football program beating against 580 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:23.760 against the blue blood against Oklahoma. I'm aware that Johnny Nansen I went to 581 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:31.599 Texas because Steve sarkisian Is is one of his uh, one of his friends, 582 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:39.599 and so any news about who's gonna who's gonna be promoted or what's going 583 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.360 on, I think it's too early. It's it's way too early. You 584 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.000 know. There's obviously a lot of a lot of local interest in having h 585 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.559 Duyne Aquina take that job. He was a defensive coordinator here but back in 586 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.280 the day. But I don't know the Duayna Quina really wants to do that. 587 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.400 That sounds like a lot of work. I think he's gonna go somewhere 588 00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:59.760 else. I mean, I'm thinking that general pick somebody. Yeah, I 589 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.920 think I think genill go get one. You know, he knows so many 590 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.840 people in the coaching ranks both NFL and in college. I would imagine he'd 591 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.639 go get you know, somebody who's you know, who's done this before. 592 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.440 And you know, I don't and I don't know the Dony King would want 593 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.280 to be that guy. It sounds like too much work for a guy who's 594 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.760 what close to seventies, you know. So, but we haven't heard anything. 595 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.000 You've heard nothing. Yeah, I kind of agree with you. I 596 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:29.800 think uh A Kina would be a co defensive coordinator, and I've seen Jeff 597 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:37.559 Fish would probably want to get another good recruiter that would be a defensive coordinator, 598 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:45.159 just to help recruiting wise. So on Sunday, you know, Congeica 599 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.440 right committed to the dumbasses up north. I'm wondering where're gonna go with this? 600 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.760 I knew it. I'm not gonna Well, go ahead, but don't 601 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.960 cuss. Yeah, don't cuss, but go ahead. Why would you do 602 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:10.960 that? I mean Arizona went to Alamov and and and and uh at one. 603 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:20.239 I don't understand and understand why would you go to a pathetic bottom the 604 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:30.559 veltl uh uh full of humans seek think, will matter. Uh. So 605 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.320 you don't understand why would you do that? But we talked about this, 606 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.440 we talked about this earlier when we had Justin Spears on. So, Gabe, 607 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:43.719 what are you get in your degree in? Uh? Zoology? Zoology? 608 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.880 So if you go to a zoo and you work, I'm hoping I'm 609 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.239 getting the accurate you get. And then the boss says, well, you 610 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.079 know, Gabe, you're not gonna be up here. You're not gonna be 611 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.039 have a chance to move up. We love you here where you're gonna be 612 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.519 active, but you're not gonna be able to move up for a while. 613 00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.920 Uh, You're you're gonna behind the scenes. And you're thinking, you know 614 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.880 what, I think, I want to go be more more visible than what 615 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.880 I do. What would you do not go to s u Well, I 616 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:19.400 mean I wouldn't go to the so you'd work at the zoo. 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But I said the Cowboys big favorites over the Packers, 652 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.199 and the Bills big favorites over the Steelers, who snuck in with all 653 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.639 the weird stuff that happened right of the weekend when the Eagles. The Eagles 654 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.559 are giving three to Dampa Bay, which makes no sense because they've just been 655 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.400 terrible they've gone. I mean, you want to see it. Talk about 656 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:07.239 a team that's just coming into the day. Yeah, okay, I'm coughing 657 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.599 up along. Man. That read was hard because I had to suppress a 658 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.559 lot of cough going into that going into that read. Anyways, all right, 659 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.320 back to the game tonight, Steve. It should be fun. We'll 660 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.360 see what happens. If Washington comes out big early, which we are very 661 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.440 capable of doing. I think that will help them. Because Michigan's a running 662 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.280 team, right and they we have at they'll have a hard time coming back 663 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:30.599 from having to run all the time. Right. Well, this is clearly 664 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.280 one of those games that you know, the teams play at two different paces, 665 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.039 so which whichever team dictates the pace? You know, if if Michigan 666 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.760 can run the ball, keep the ball away from Michael Penix, then obviously 667 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.960 that that favors them and they'll you know, they'll have a big chance of 668 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.000 winning. And that game, if that game happens like that, that game 669 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.039 will go under and everything I bet will go right in the toilet. But 670 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.360 if Bennix comes out and he's flinging the ball all over the place, he's 671 00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.400 finding time to throw I think that, you know, Wash and he's got 672 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.679 a bunch of receivers that that Michigan hasn't had to face before. If he 673 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.840 comes out and he's slinging it, and even if Michigan is scoring with them, 674 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.199 if they can't stop Washington, Washington will out score. That's all I 675 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.079 see. Yeah, it should be fun. I'm looking forward to it. 676 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.599 Most of the games have been good Washington. Like I say, do you 677 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.760 like to pack twelve? The storyline? This is it for them? This 678 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.559 is it, man, this is it for them. The nice way to 679 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.639 go around and like the storyline from the standpoint that that's happening. But yeah, 680 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.280 I mean a nice way to go away on top, right, Yeah, 681 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.119 Cleoff Koff is gonna be there. He needs to stay out of the 682 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:37.239 way. He has to be there, but he needs to just kind of 683 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.039 be a little incognito people. You know, he's just giving people a chance 684 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.079 to rip on him because you know, he had as much to do with 685 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.480 I get a lot of things happened before he got there, But in the 686 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.519 end, he's the guy who couldn't get the TV deal thing that wouldn't kept 687 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.960 a big alive. He's the guy who got blindsided by USC and U c 688 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:00.880 l A, you know, leaving the league back when the and then kind 689 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.360 of got another blind setted by a shoe saying we can get a better deal. 690 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.159 Yeah, and you know, trusting the wrong people. Yeah, you're 691 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.519 dead. So I don't know, he needs this s out of the way. 692 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.519 But he'll he'll be there, you know, he'll show up somewhere. 693 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.960 Somebody will see him, you know. But no, it's it's it's it's 694 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.159 sad. You know, I'm not going to shed a tear, but it'll 695 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.360 be you know, it'll be sad tonight when you realize that, you know, 696 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:29.239 the PAC twelve football is dead. I mean just literally dead in the 697 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.880 ground. Put a headstone on it. It's over. You know. We'll 698 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:36.519 get some people in here who've been a big part of the PAC clave, 699 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.119 you know, yeah over the years, over the years, get Willner to 700 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.440 come in here and talk about it. Maybe some other some other folks, 701 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.920 some other players, players who have played in it. We gotta get to 702 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.800 you know what. That surprised me. I'm sure you saw it. Did 703 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.119 you read the Blue Blood story? And I thought, yeah, you would 704 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.199 have told me by now. But the comment, was it the comment, 705 00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:00.000 who's the the Jet Given award to the comment I asked if he was alive 706 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:07.000 still uh the best player ever in oh uh uh Arlopino. Yeah, yeah, 707 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.039 so he whenever we didn't know whether even a live or not. No, 708 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.719 he's they gave him. He was living in Sanato. He went over 709 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.039 and gave him a because we kind of give him on the show. I 710 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:22.400 don't know how how Tom we I'm just hoping that he would be able to 711 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.519 have it. You know. Yeah, we can find we can finally see 712 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:30.840 how that was. Yeah, he's up there in age. So let's let's 713 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.719 try to find that. That'd be fine because you know, because he's a 714 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:42.000 guy that he's like the one guy that you know today people when you think 715 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.119 about past. Yeah, and you know, for all those people who can't 716 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.039 even get past the early eighties or whatever, he's the one guy. Sure 717 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.280 you say, Art Lapina, they go, oh yeah, Art Lupine, 718 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.840 Sure sure. And that was your brother, your brother seventy something Rick yea. 719 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.719 So he did he watch him? He was able to. He might 720 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.360 have because his two great years well he would have been he would have been 721 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.639 under ten years old, but great years. We're in the fifties, you 722 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.719 know, and my brother was born in fifty Okay, so maybe maybe as 723 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.960 a nine year old or whatever. Yeah, so we'd have to find you 724 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.119 know, how good was he? Everybody thinks the world has been right, 725 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.039 right, right, but yeah, but yeah, you know, it's it's 726 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.639 it's incredibly sad that that we've come to this. But I'm not gonna lie, 727 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.679 Steve, I'm not gonna lie. I think the road to a potential 728 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:37.280 Rose Bowl for Arizona is much better than it's been up to now. Do 729 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.679 you know what that's called a backdoor cover? It would be it would be 730 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.440 the ultimate back door cover if Arizona would be would get into the Roads ball. 731 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.960 Here's I'm already running this through my mind. Let's say Arizona's wins back 732 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.159 to the Big twelve and they're one of the you know, one of the 733 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.079 four teams that gets a bye, and they're and you know, the sixth 734 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:02.000 New Year six Bowl game. Okay, are they gonna Are they gonna put 735 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:07.320 the Big ten team in the Rose Bowl? Or would they let Arizona come 736 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.639 in play in a Rose Bowl because they were in the pack. You have 737 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.920 your own answer. You're asking that question. Do you have your own answer? 738 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.880 Oh? I know my answer. But what would the Rose Bowl want 739 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:16.840 to do? Yeah, they was, they would want. I would think 740 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.119 the would want of course, because the whole city would you go, Yeah, 741 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.480 the whole city would go. But in your karma and you're not karma 742 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.960 in your in your football. Nobody would like a dagger in my side, 743 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.440 wouldn't they? Whiskens always want will go the other way? Damn it, 744 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.039 Jeeve, I know, no, I think that way. I do. 745 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.719 I do believe that that some somebody would screw it up for us if if, 746 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.000 if that were to happen. Yeah, but I don't know. We'll 747 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.000 see what I'll say. But I feel like I feel like the you know, 748 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.360 the door has opened up again where I thought it had completely closed because 749 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:53.800 I thought Arizona was gonna wind up. How did you come up with this 750 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:58.679 conversation? You've been thinking about it or someone brought it up to you? 751 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.159 No, I thought I thought of it so because again all the way back 752 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.280 to when you know, when it looked imminent that Arizona was going to the 753 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.079 big club, I was immediately thinking, wait a minute, Oklahoma and Texas 754 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.840 are gone, you know, And this is when Arizona was you know, 755 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.719 second half of the season Arizona's doing. I'm that Wait a minute, Arizona 756 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.119 gets in the Big Twelve, They're gonna be a favorite in the Big twelve. 757 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:21.400 The road, the road to the playoff is much easier out of the 758 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.440 Big Twelve than any other league. I mean, when is usc going to 759 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:29.159 get in there again? When is you know? When's Ucla is never gonna 760 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:35.000 get in. Ucla may have made the biggest mistake of their their athletic life. 761 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.599 And by doing this and then Oklahoma and Texas, they're going to go 762 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:39.440 to the SEC. How are they going to get in there? Yeah? 763 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.239 Right, it's gonna be competitive, But I don't think it's gonna be competitive 764 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.239 for UCLA. I think they've committed Yeah, yeah, just for the money. 765 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.960 Yeah, to survive. Yeah. Well, we understand that Arizona will 766 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.159 be going through it's his situation with the school and all that. So we'll 767 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:59.400 see what happens. He good show. What I really found. I did 768 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.559 go by really fast. Thank you to Justin Oh we should again plug Justin 769 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:08.239 spears his show uh seven to nine am weekdays of ESPN Radio fourteen ninety. 770 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.239 I want to make sure that you get that we don't feel like we compete 771 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.559 with him. He goes, he comes on our show, we go on 772 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.320 his show. He and Oli do a great job. So be sure to 773 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:22.440 listen to Justin on weekday mornings. And then thank you again to Jack Mcgrider's 774 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.400 always fun to get him on. Go dogs, Jack, You and I 775 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:28.440 we're on. We got it. Uh yeah, I had I had it 776 00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:32.320 before. I just kiss him death? Are you he didn't do any better? 777 00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.519 Rub you, rub the skulls, run, rub the stall. All 778 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.199 right, Hey, thanks everybody for being here to follow us on the podcast, 779 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:43.880 and we'll see what happens with the National Championship game tonight. We'll be 780 00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:44.960 back tomorrow to talk about it.