WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:53.640 M The following presentation is all Marvel Studios production. Welcome back to truth seekers 2 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:59.560 from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files, 3 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.719 episode thirty seven and joining us here in just a moment, we're gonna 4 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.840 have a flat Earth conversation with Donnie from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Before we 5 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.840 do, just a reminder, questions, comments, concerns. If you'd like 6 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:17.319 to join the program, like Donnie is here. The email addressed is the 7 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.000 flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Again, it is the flat Earth 8 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.840 Files at gmail dot com and expect a lot of you guys who have emails 9 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:30.280 in the inbox to get emails tomorrow, no later then. 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Yeah, it's it's been a pretty nice weekend here, a 19 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.479 little a little warm for this time of year, but we'll be gone back 20 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:13.520 to the seasonal seasonal temperatures, uh this coming week. So again, thanks 21 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.479 for taking the time to join us, for reaching out. And um, 22 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.360 it's interesting that you are someone who you would think in a lot of work 23 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.840 where you would account for curvature, et cetera. And we'll get into all 24 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.199 that. I'm getting ahead of myself already. UM, go ahead and introduce 25 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:34.280 yourself and tell our audience a little bit about you, okay, Yeah, 26 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:38.719 Yeah, I was born and or raised in a in a Catholic conservative family. 27 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:47.080 So I was believed in Jesus early age, you know, and and 28 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:51.800 um, but you know, school went after going to school, you know, 29 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.520 they teach thee. They steer you away from that, right, they 30 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.199 steer you away from God and and and Jesus. Um. So you know 31 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.039 I questioned that through through out my you know, throughout my life, you 32 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:07.199 know. But um, I was always interested, you know, during school, 33 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.479 I was always interested in in mysteries, conspiracy theories, right like Bermuda 34 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:15.680 Triangle, Aliens, big Foot, you know, especially uh the jfk assassination 35 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:20.719 where you know, just looking into that a little bit at a pretty young 36 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.479 age, you know, it was pretty clear that I didn't think that Lee 37 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:30.800 Harvey Oswald did it, you know. So um Um, But I you 38 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.280 know, got married, started raising some kids, and um didn't really get 39 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.360 to look in to go down the rabbit hole too much for uh for quite 40 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.520 a while until um, you know, I got divorced. I had a 41 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:47.520 lot more time on my hands, and then uh, um, yeah, 42 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:51.840 I started and I started reading the Bible more too, um at that point, 43 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:57.400 um, after divorce, and uh. And you know one thing that 44 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.520 really stuck out to me is, uh, you know I free which uh 45 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.879 which scripture it is exactly, but you know the truth will set you free, 46 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:10.879 right, And that that really stood out to me. So so I 47 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.759 like, I like your podcasts how you call yourself a truther and um and 48 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:20.399 uh you know I've heard you mentioned that scripture before many times. Um, 49 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.040 and so yeah, it's that's that's something I believe deeply. And you know, 50 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.600 the truth will set you free, you know, um, and searching 51 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:34.120 for the truth and so uh, you know, I just uh. Um, 52 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.160 you know, going through life, you know, watching watching uh TV, 53 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:45.199 watching uh Breaking Bad and watching a mobster movies and watching Narcos and UM 54 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.120 American Maide is one of them that stuck out to me, where you know, 55 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:54.160 our government is involved in uh in trafficking drugs and um and we're supposed 56 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.079 to believe that, you know, that was the past and they don't do 57 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.560 that anymore, you know exactly. And I know that was a tremendous eye 58 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.720 opening movie and everybody, and it's amazing that you know, Tom Cruise, 59 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:09.000 I mean that really shows and obviously they released it thirty some years after the 60 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.120 fact, but still, I mean that was based on real events, that 61 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:17.240 that was real time. Uh it's yea and yeah, and what they did 62 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:24.240 to that guy, I mean it was it was just just mind boggling, 63 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.800 you know, both working for both sides, and he didn't stand a chance. 64 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.920 They usually chew you up and spit you out when they're done with you, 65 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:36.639 right, yep, yep, And so you know, just uh and 66 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:42.519 then eventually you know, like I, um actually didn't pay too much attention 67 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.879 to politics, uh, you know up through through Trump right, Like I 68 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:51.279 didn't pay too much attention I saw I didn't like Trump at all. Right, 69 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:56.600 I couldn't stand him. I couldn't stand Hillary. Um, and I 70 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.560 didn't I didn't vote that twenty sixteen election. And then when and Trump won, 71 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.519 I was like, I was shocked, you know. But um, 72 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.560 and I didn't pay attention to politics at all. I didn't. I didn't 73 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:12.199 care what was going on. So um. But then I met my my 74 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.319 uh you know, pro Trump Christian girlfriend, an amazing woman. Um, 75 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:20.199 and she she kind of she turned around to Trump. You know, we'd 76 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.319 argue about him at first, and she said, you know, just listen 77 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.439 to what he has to say. And so I started, uh, you 78 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:30.959 know, listening to him, and a couple of things that I uh, 79 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.480 you know, a couple of things I liked that he did. You know, 80 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.079 I think it was NATO where he where he said, you know, 81 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:40.439 where the United States is is carrying the world's back, world on its back, 82 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:45.720 paying for all these other countries, you know, and so that was 83 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.720 big to me. And then and then his fake news. You know, 84 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:53.079 like I early on, I thought, you know, he's just uh, 85 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.480 um, I could I just couldn't stand him, you know, he's arrogant. 86 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.560 But then when I looked into it. I was like, yeah, 87 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.600 yeah, the news really they really do lie. You know, they lie 88 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:08.600 a lot, they they and then eventually it's like all they do is lie. 89 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:15.199 Uh you know, after a while you figure that out. Um and 90 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:19.759 so so yeah, I mean I think Trump kind of you know, led 91 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:25.720 me to flat Earth. But you know, there's there's some other other conspiracies, 92 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.680 you know that I started looking into, um, you know, like 93 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.399 looking into the Vatican and and some of the symbolism that's going on there, 94 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:40.040 and um and secret societies and and then um, you know, tartaria and 95 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:46.480 giants and to the Smithsonian hiding all that stuff. And another thing was Epstein 96 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.680 and and um and you know, looking into Adrenochrome a little bit. And 97 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.839 then that was huge for me though, like the whole Epstein you know, 98 00:07:54.920 --> 00:08:01.360 quote unquote killing himself. Um. You know, of course no one believes 99 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.120 that. But that's when I realized that this world is run by a bunch 100 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.959 of pedophile Satanists, you know, and so and not just that just blows 101 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:15.160 my mind so um um so so once I believe that, once I knew 102 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:20.240 that, my mind was open to believe, to believe that the Earth could 103 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:26.480 be flat, you know, um, and you know, and then another 104 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.319 some some ore stuff that just that that that stood out to me was just 105 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:35.320 all the murders, right like JFK of course and then um, but just 106 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.679 throughout history, you know, uh, Martin Us King, Junior, Malcolm 107 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:45.799 X uh, Bruce Lee, like Kurt Kobe, and even like Michael Jackson 108 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.320 and Prince like some of the some of these people they're they're just speaking. 109 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:54.720 They just say too much and they end up you know, committing suicide or 110 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.159 overdosing or getting into a crazy car accident or whatever, you know. And 111 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:07.519 so yeah, you know, and I feel like it's the words of a 112 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.440 person that is that has died in those circumstances. Um, you know, 113 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.799 we need to listen to the words that they that they say, and of 114 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.159 course they're going to be censored. They're hard to find. But you know, 115 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.200 you listen to some of what Michael Jackson said, um before he died, 116 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.320 and he talks about you know, all they're doing is lying to us, 117 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.960 you know. UM. And and some of his songs you listen, 118 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.440 and Kurt Cobain too, like some some of the songs and the videos that 119 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.639 he put out are are just you know, mind opening, and and they 120 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.320 say a lot when you listen to the lyrics and you watch his videos. 121 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.840 Um, you know they took him out for sure. Um. I have 122 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.679 a theory about that. And I have a theory that a certain band member 123 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.200 was involved in that and was rewarded mightily and still reap success. But that's 124 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:01.600 a story for another day. Really. Oh nice, that's that's I'd like 125 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.840 to hear that one. Um. And And yeah, I mean I think 126 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.559 I think there's more. You know, the data music died right the American 127 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.720 Pie song. I've always liked that song, and I think there's there's a 128 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.399 deeper meaning to it, and I think there's something in the music industry happened 129 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.879 that day. You know, those guys were doing something that the music industry 130 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.200 didn't like, and I think something might have happened there too, you know. 131 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.320 Yeah, it's it's interesting. I can tell you're a big music guy. 132 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.039 I think one of the more fascinating thing. Michael Jackson sure did start 133 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.279 to talk a lot toward the end, and some things that the music industry 134 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.240 didn't want certain lights to be shined on. But the other very interesting thing 135 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.399 which you pointed out was Prince and a lot of people forget that Prince was 136 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.080 really starting to say some things that very much like Michael Jackson, didn't want 137 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.240 to get out. Um, but with these people, they were very much 138 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.440 into numerology and too these things, and that they intentionally killed him. On 139 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.799 April the twenty first, he had a song on Purple Rain called I Would 140 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:05.919 uh for You, And of course the number four would represent April writes the 141 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.799 fourth month, and then the letter you is the twenty first letter in the 142 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.639 alphabet. So there's your I would die for you and your your April twelve 143 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:20.279 first. Wow. Yeah, that that is wild. That is wild. 144 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.799 Um, that's the but yeah, the police had a very um, I 145 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:26.919 didn't mean to interrupt you. But in eighty three Synchronicity, their biggest album, 146 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.720 they had a hidden track called Murder by Numbers and it was about Jamatria. 147 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.600 Murder by numbers. ABC. It's easy to learn as your ABC's Oh 148 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.399 wow, yeah, yeah that's right. That's right. Yeah, sorry about 149 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.200 that. That's really cool. I might have to look into that a little 150 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.000 bit more too. Yeah that's really cool. Thanks for that. Um. 151 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.879 But yeah, so so that's just more more you know, crazy stuff that 152 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.840 just make opens your eyes to make you or just open your mind to accept 153 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.279 that, you know, the earth might be flat and all this stuff. 154 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.159 And then the twenty twenty election, you know, I think it was it 155 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.840 was rigged for sure. And and you know the United States has a history 156 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.879 of rigging at elections all over the world. When you when you start watching 157 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:15.679 you know, I remember watching au Oliver Stone documentary about Ukraine and and you 158 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:20.960 know we we rigged the election over there. Um, yeah, definitely and 159 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:28.159 um. And then of course you know, uh COVID now don't need to 160 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.600 say too much about that, and and big pharma and and what they do 161 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:39.480 to us uh um, and and how they control big decisions and the world, 162 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.360 you know. Um. And then food like I was just I was 163 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.679 just outside today, uh, you know, plant sting, h our, 164 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.679 our own, our own vegetables, you know, um, because we want 165 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:56.240 to start staying away from the food that they're that they're giving us, you 166 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.440 know. Um. And you know there's so much like climate change that you 167 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.159 know, the climate has always changed. It's like they're just it's just fear 168 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.759 fear mongering. They're just you know, it's the next something to be afraid 169 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.039 of, right, that's right. The next thing yeah, yeah, yeah, 170 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.879 and uh and then you know, like just going down the rabbit hole 171 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:26.159 chemtrails and ninety eleven um, and then uh, you know, just just 172 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.879 politics in general. You know, my I'm forty four and all my life, 173 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.360 you know, they always talk about the same issues and nothing gets done. 174 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:41.000 You know. So uh that uh right there tells you that they're not 175 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.360 they're not trying to do anything right for the world. No, And okay, 176 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.360 can I just interject really quick because you made a great point how they're 177 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.240 always diverging your attention for the these things. The next thing, um, 178 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.360 something that people miss the boat on. Uh a week ago, uh, 179 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:01.679 you know, five or six days ago, the big thing was this guy 180 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:07.039 on a beer can in address, this Dylan Mulvaaney, and that's all everybody's 181 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.799 been talking about. A day after that happened, Um, the White House 182 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.799 announced that they gave five billion dollars to big pharmaceuticals for more vaccine development. 183 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.200 But nobody talks about that. All everybody wanted to talk about the last week 184 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.039 was some dude in address and a bud light can. All the while another 185 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:31.279 five billion went to murk and uh and fiser. It's it's magic. Look 186 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.559 over here and look over here. Yep, s light a hand. Yeah, 187 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.559 um, yeah, so that's uh but um, but yeah, I 188 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.480 mean I think uh um, and I think reading the Bible too, um 189 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.919 opened my mind to it too, you know, going going through I read 190 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:52.519 most of the Bible, um, and uh you know, and I made 191 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.879 a you know when I got when I got divorced, just real value in 192 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.159 my life, I said, I'm going to read the Bible. So I'm 193 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.440 almost done. Um. But just a few things you learned from reading the 194 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.399 Bible is that you know, for the most part, these these kings of 195 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.840 Judah Israel were not good in the sight of the Lord, and and they 196 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.039 worshiped other gods. They were they did satanic things right, and and there 197 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.440 were only a few good kings throughout the history of the of the Bible, 198 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.639 which tells me that that's how it is now. You know, like there's 199 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:37.200 there's only very few good godly people, and it's mostly throughout history it's going 200 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.159 to be the evil ones that are running things. And so um. You 201 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.440 know that that's what I learned from the from reading the Old Testament. And 202 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.320 of course you know mentions giants, and there's there's constant warders in the Bible 203 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.120 and and all that. But um, but then uh, um, I 204 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.519 think like I started looking at the moon landing and flat Earth kind of at 205 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.039 the same time. So um, I was when I started looking at the 206 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.039 moon landing. But and I was like fifty fifty there for a while, 207 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.799 and then I started looking into flat Earth a little bit. And uh, 208 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.360 and I just had so many questions, like like, looking at the Chicago 209 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.720 skyline from where you know, you should see curve. There's no curve there. 210 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:26.120 Um uh and uh, you know Nixon talking to the astronauts when when 211 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.279 I drive, you know, five ten minutes from Albuquerque and I might not 212 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.919 get cell reception, but Nixon was talking to the answer astronauts on the Moon 213 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.399 in nineteen sixty nine on that phone. Yeah, that's one of my my 214 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.399 top five proofs. When you know, if if somebody says, give me 215 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.120 your top five, that's always in my top five. The technology just didn't 216 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.080 exist at the time. Yeah, Like, there's there's no way, there's 217 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.720 no there's no way. And then I just watched a video of the two 218 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.279 hours two hours long. The moon landing looks like it's uncut, but you 219 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:04.640 can see through the astronauts in this video and I and that that blows my 220 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.440 mind. Like I'm sure they have some sort of technical excuse, but you 221 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.680 know, a video is just a bunch of pictures, just over and over 222 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.680 again, right right, So how can you how can you see through the 223 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:22.319 astronauts if they're taking a video of of that area of you know, the 224 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.599 lunar module and these astronauts walking around this lunar module and planting this flag and 225 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:33.720 stuff. Um, it's it's actually pretty pathetic, um and so um. 226 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:40.160 But what really really got me, um was just I mean I didn't want 227 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.039 to believe what other people were telling me, right, Like, I'm looking 228 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.400 at all the stuff on TikTok YouTube and and uh and a lot a lot 229 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.079 of interesting stuff. But the couple things that really got me where, um 230 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.359 the stars and the moon and I and and when I when I heard you 231 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.960 know, well look at look at the stars. We albvious see the same 232 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.079 stars, you know, no matter what time of year it is. And 233 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.920 during the during the winter, we should we're facing one way into space, 234 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:14.799 and during the summer we're facing a completely opposite way. At night into space, 235 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.279 we should see a completely different sky. We should see no, almost 236 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:23.599 zero common stars. And so I started I just started looking up at the 237 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.759 looking up at the sky every day, looking at the sun, looking at 238 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.640 the moon, looking at the stars, and um. And they say that, 239 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.599 you know, the moon is a reflection of the sun. And the 240 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.240 day that I h that I was convinced, I was driving to work and 241 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.640 the moon. It was during the day. You could see the moon and 242 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.559 it was facing up to the left and the Sun was down to the right, 243 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:55.079 or you know, it was just impossible like that that the sloon just 244 00:18:55.319 --> 00:19:00.920 can't be a reflection of the sun based on my observations, know, And 245 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:06.759 so that's when I knew it was they're lying about that. Like the and 246 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.599 the and the moon, it's like it's own it looks like it's own light, 247 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:15.240 and the both objects look closer than what they're telling us. And of 248 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.880 course they've seen pictures where there's clouds behind the sun and and you know, 249 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.880 my clouds behind the moon and that sort of thing. But I, I 250 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.799 was, you know, just trying to use my own observations and and and 251 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.640 stuff like that, um to to make a decision. But that was the 252 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.799 day that that I was like, you know what this it might actually be 253 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.400 flat. And then I and then I had a dream that night too like 254 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:41.839 that. I was mind blowing that that day when I saw that, and 255 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.039 then um, and then I had a dream that night that where where it 256 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:51.319 was like I, I just felt like, you know what, the Earth 257 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:56.000 is flat and uh um. And so yeah, that's kind of how I 258 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.200 that's kind of how I got there. And there's there's just so much much 259 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.880 there's there's too much werener van bron you know all the operations that that that 260 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.519 we've done, um, trying to blow up the fermament um. Yeah, 261 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.799 like high jump, dominic fish bowl, all those, Yeah, all of 262 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:18.359 those the rockets in space like rock uh you know you need you need matter 263 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:26.599 to push off um push off of to to accelerate. And so that doesn't 264 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.559 make any sense. And and and also the atmosphere supposedly it's just open. 265 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:36.759 We have all this gas that's that's just held in by gravity. But yet 266 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.680 a balloon can float. And I can see that with my eyes, a 267 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:44.720 balloon that's floating in the air and a plane that's that's flying through the air. 268 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.759 I can see that gravity is nowhere to be found for those objects. 269 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.359 But it's holding a gas. It's holding a gas close to the Earth without 270 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.680 a container. But when I when in science class, I learned that you 271 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.640 know, gas fills the container, that it's uh uh that it's in right, 272 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:07.920 and so that that's a huge one too for me. Was was was 273 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:12.480 was just that you know, like that gas um needs to have a container. 274 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:19.400 Um. And of course all the all the CGI looking at NASA UM 275 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:27.000 videos, all the green screen stuff, the pictures of space where I didn't 276 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.559 really pay attention to it before, but when you when you look back at 277 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.400 it, yeah, that's all just CGI. That's just all. And then 278 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:40.319 they have some technical scientific explanation for for what they need to do to create 279 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:44.759 these and they tell us it's real, but they're just they're just images. 280 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:52.119 It's all CGI and um um yeah, that's kind of that's kind of how 281 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:56.279 I how I got there. And I didn't actually watch the you know, 282 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.359 there's there's the Level and Next Level. UM. I didn't watch those until 283 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:06.119 after I decided that that the Earth was flat and those are those are you 284 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.039 know, great documentaries. And and then I you know, watched the Truman 285 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.720 Shoe Show after and and I think, I think, you know, some 286 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.559 of these people like like Jim Carrey, I think he's a flat earthory and 287 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.799 to come out with that movie, you know, and there's there's some uh, 288 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:23.160 I think there's a lot of truth. They have to show us some 289 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:30.279 truths and in their movies. And um and that was that was a super 290 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.759 interesting one. And you know the telemetry data it's missing, um for from 291 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.960 for the moon landing. Um and and uh they destroyed the technology to go 292 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.079 to the moon. Like it just none of it makes any sense. You 293 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.079 know that there's never been a technology or an invention. You know that that 294 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.400 this you know, it's like I've said before, waking up and your cell 295 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:55.640 phone's not working and you drive down to the Horizon store, They're like, 296 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:59.920 we just well the data we used for five G it's just we low. 297 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.480 We don't know how Wi fi and the fag kinetic connectivity works anymore. It's 298 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:08.680 just not um that if it went the way it did, it would been 299 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.799 you know, in a vault, uh, like the the Arc of the 300 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:18.240 Covenant. It would be guarded. And it's simply uh, how it's delivered 301 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.039 is it's just a complete force. And the only thing, listen, the 302 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.119 only thing to me that's true about NASA is a rocket goes up in the 303 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:29.920 air and then lands in the water. Everything else is Hollywood, I believe 304 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.880 it. And then you watch their videos of launches and they have a they 305 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.400 have a camera pointing down at the ground, and then they have a camera 306 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.079 that's pointing up but it's but it has like the rocket on either side, 307 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:45.640 so you can see a portion of the sky, but you know, it's 308 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.799 and then all of a sudden, like they're just in space, and then 309 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:55.559 the camera switches and it's and it's, uh, it's like a it's a 310 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.559 Hollywood production. It's a different it's a different camera, it's a different picture. 311 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.599 Everything looks different all of a sudden, and of course there's like a 312 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:06.880 gap, right, there's like, uh, you see it from the Space 313 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.559 Shuttle and then all of a sudden, it's just out in space and um 314 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:14.279 and and I watched I watched a couple of them now, you know, 315 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.839 to to be convinced. I watched a few and it's like, yeah, 316 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.359 that could totally be uh, you know, if if they if it was 317 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.279 real, they should be able to prove that it's real with with better cameras, 318 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:32.200 with better um you know, cameras all over that shuttle or or or 319 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.319 whatever, you know, like they should be able to prove that the Earth 320 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:40.640 is curved, and they haven't. They can't. Yeah, you're spot on 321 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:44.599 it. And I do think, um, that the powers that be are 322 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.200 starting to figure out that people are waking up to the lies. Um. 323 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.440 I think that's part of the reason why they're putting this artemission, this Artemis 324 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.920 mission together. And I'm a little worried because if you think about it, 325 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:03.480 look at all the people who bought into the Apollo eleven shenanigans back in nineteen 326 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.160 sixty nine, with the limited Hollywood capabilities we had at that time. Here 327 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.400 we are in twenty twenty three, with deep fakes and everything else. I'm 328 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:17.200 afraid that all this momentum that we've got going for us right now in the 329 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.400 flat earth community, in the truth community as a whole, if people buy 330 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.359 into this hook line and sink, or if they put on this five star 331 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.400 production and people buy into it, I'm a little worried. Hopefully, like 332 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.039 everything else, they'll just continue to kick it down the can, or you 333 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.160 know, kick the can down the road and say, oh, we've got 334 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.920 this problem, that problem and everything else. But what are your thoughts on 335 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.400 what's going to happen next year with this Artemis two mission. I think they'll 336 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.160 probably keep delaying it. But if they, you know, I don't. 337 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.720 I don't think they can make it look real enough yet. I think they 338 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.279 know that a lot of people are on them, like they're they're going to 339 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:55.240 be tearing those videos apart, and I think they're trying to perfect it, 340 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.640 and I don't I don't think they're going to be ready next year to perfect 341 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.920 it because it's some of this video that they're showing us is pretty recent, 342 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.920 and and there there's holes in this video that they're showing us now, you 343 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.720 know. So I don't think. I think they're going to keep kicking the 344 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.880 can down the road, um, a few more years. But at some 345 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.000 point they're gonna feel like they're ready, and and they're going to come out 346 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:22.519 with with something, um to try to convince the masses that that they're gonna 347 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.279 land on the moon, you know. Um. But but yeah, I 348 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.039 think they're gonna keep kicking it down the road personally, Yeah, And if 349 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.680 they do something, I think it will already just like a movie, It 350 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.319 all already minus the rocket being launched, already be recorded, they'll just show 351 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.960 the rocket go up in the air disappear, and then the play and the 352 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.359 movie will we'll we'll cycle on everybody's TV. But again, I think kind 353 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.680 of along the lines of you, I think they'll say, we have the 354 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:52.680 laze, we have O ring issues and this and that and weather issues. 355 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.319 You know. I think they'll continue, like you said, to kick the 356 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.359 can down the road, because you know, with with the silly as they 357 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.200 play now that they're making seventy million dollars a day, NASA is and that 358 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.000 of course is putting big money in the pockets of the military industrial complex. 359 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.160 Yeah, when whenever I whenever I talk to people about this, like what 360 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.480 why does it matter? You know, like, uh, doesn't that bother 361 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.559 you that they're just pocketing? Um, would you say seventy one million dollars 362 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:23.279 a day like that of our taxper dollars And that's not and that's not it 363 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.720 though, you know, it's it's overall, it's more than that, right 364 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:33.079 like they um they do UM, I don't know, Like they make they 365 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.799 make money off of us making movies about space that we go to watch and 366 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.119 it's all fake, you know, like it's all it's all uh. Um, 367 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.680 it's not real they you know they um. And then all the businesses 368 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.200 that stem from from uh um, from space travel and from NASA and and 369 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.359 and and rockets and all the technologies and and all that stuff you know. 370 00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:00.599 UM. I mean there's a lot of money that goes uh that goes into 371 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.799 it that and it's um like wasted, you know, like we could be 372 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.880 using that for other things. Um. And they all list a lot of 373 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.880 money. I think that's for uh. That would be the first thing if 374 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.359 we could prove them wrong, would be NASA, Okay, work on your 375 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:22.880 your your taxpayer repayment plan right now exactly exactly. Um. Of course that'll 376 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.480 never happen, no, no, um. Yeah. And actually I looked 377 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:33.359 in a little a little bit um astronomy and and I thought it was it 378 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:38.160 was just funny because um, this this astronomers, he said, uh. 379 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:45.759 He said, most astronomers don't actually use telescope the telescopes themselves anymore. Someone 380 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:52.240 who's trained in their specific use does that for them. And so um and 381 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.279 and he went on to explain that he he was like the computer guy. 382 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:02.400 He was the technical guy that worked on the data that they downloaded from the 383 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.559 telescope. He didn't actually look through the telescope. He just messed with the 384 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.880 data. But he's an astronomer, um, you know, like and then 385 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.640 but they only have they have specially trained people that look through the telescopes. 386 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:21.480 That in itself, like if you're an astronomer, you you know, you 387 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.400 you look up at the sky and you and you're and it's and it's amazing 388 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:30.359 in all this. And then you become an astronomer and you don't necessarily look 389 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.640 through a telescope to look at stars. You work, you're a computer programmer 390 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.240 or and he even said on there, like as far as the field of 391 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:42.039 astronomy covers um and he said it a couple of times, like we even 392 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.880 higher artists like and he said that a couple of times, and it's just 393 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.720 like, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, you definitely do. 394 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:55.279 Neat artists work for astronomy. The guy who drew the blue marble for Apple, 395 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.839 the original two thousand and eight iPhone, he said, yeah, that's 396 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:03.440 cgi. That's not a picture of the of the oh not not even close. 397 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.039 Yeah, And they've admitted to that, right, So it's just a 398 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.640 bunch of aerial you know, in civil engineering, we use. We use 399 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:18.119 aerial um mapping, and so we a plane flies over and um and shoots 400 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.440 um x xes on the ground. And then and then they use they fly 401 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:29.680 two flights and the they use the angles of the flights in different directions to 402 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:34.279 piece the topography together on the ground. And they also take an aerial um 403 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.039 aerial photograph at the same time, you know, so you know they use 404 00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.640 it. I'm sure they, NASA, whoever, you can use all that 405 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:48.559 data that of all the plane flights flying over the world to piece piece the 406 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.279 world together, you know, like a little bit out of time. But 407 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.039 I'm I'm pretty convinced now that we you know, it's not satellites that are 408 00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.400 doing it. It's it's planes that are that are flying up there and and 409 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.599 uh and mapping out the world so that we can put these globes together, 410 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.960 um indeed UM. But then another thing that blows my mind is that all 411 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.960 the all the continents are you know, they show us maps and and all 412 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.599 basically all the maps they show us, that's not really what those land masses 413 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:21.519 look like. The sizes, the shapes they're they're all warped, skewed um 414 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.119 and and all that to you know, so what we're looking at is uh 415 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.880 is pretty It's fake on globes, on maps, on most everything, right 416 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.480 except I believe now the flat Earth map. I think that's the most accurate 417 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:41.079 map we have. I couldn't agree more with you. And UM years ago 418 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.559 when I was in the military and I wasn't really hit to the flat earth, 419 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.200 didn't give it to the time of day. At the same time, 420 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:52.160 I would be sitting on a chartered flight, UM leaving from say bangor Maine 421 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.519 to Germany, and I'd look on you know how these big planes have the 422 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.519 maps and you can kind of watch how you're flying. I'd be why are 423 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:04.799 we flying in this curved loop going up and around instead of flying straight across? 424 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.519 And of course it doesn't make sense on a globe, but when you 425 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.519 when you when you put it out over on a flat earth, that flight 426 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:16.079 path makes complete sense. Yeah, it does. Yeah. And that was 427 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:22.160 another thing that all the all the flight fast paths, the emergency landings. 428 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.359 You know, I think there's a book sixteen Emergency Landings that proof flats or 429 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.519 something like that. I haven't read that, but I I've heard a few 430 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:36.200 of the emergency landings and and UM, I mean that those those are pretty 431 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:40.640 convincing, you know when when those emergency landings makes make no sense on the 432 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:46.759 globe. So that was a big one from going back to um, let 433 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:51.559 me ask you, how old are you? Forty four? Okay? And 434 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.880 um, so you're you're like me. It was because when did you finally 435 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.079 decide, yeah, I think the Earth is flat? How long would you 436 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.880 say it's been It's probably been about two or three months. Yeah, so 437 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.079 you're like me, you're a little older, a little later on in life. 438 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.799 How did that affect you? Because for me, you know, I 439 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.720 thought nine to eleven, when I really got down into the down and dirty 440 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.160 and realized the truth about that, that kind of felt like a punch in 441 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.880 the gut. But this was was ten times the effects on me. As 442 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:17.839 I've said hundreds of times, I didn't sleep for almost two weeks. I 443 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.880 was walking around in circles just scratching my head. How did that affect you? 444 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.480 Um, I'd say, like enlightening? It was like, um, 445 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.400 because I I, uh, you know, I've been I've been reading the 446 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:38.000 Bible and I want to believe the Bible, right and then uh and uh, 447 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.680 but then there's there's these things like the firmament that it mentions and then 448 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.680 and and so it kind of like like a big puzzle piece that just fit 449 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:52.680 into to everything, um for me. And and yeah, it just it 450 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:58.319 just kind of like, um yeah, it was like it was like this 451 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.559 big missing puzzle piece just got that that fit into into into the world like 452 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.400 that. It just makes it makes a lot of sense. And I think 453 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.800 I think the World War One in World War two had a lot to do 454 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:15.679 with uh, with the earth and land land on Earth. Um. Now, 455 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.800 like I'm not exactly sure how or or the circumstances, but you know, 456 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.320 that's about the time when when they were um, you know some of 457 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:29.400 these general bird I think it was was was running around to the North Pole 458 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.639 and the South Pole um and all that. Although although the North Pole, 459 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.599 I've seen some maps that show land mass at the North Pole, nice green 460 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.199 land mass. And if you think about it, you know, at the 461 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.719 North Pole, if the if the flat Earth models is right, then the 462 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.280 sun is circling around that North Pole. It might be and you know there 463 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.039 there's twenty four hours of sun up in Alaska. You know, up at 464 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:01.719 the North Pole there it might be sun like all year round or something. 465 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.800 You know, maybe who knows, but no one's been there, so no 466 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.800 one, no one will know, and no one's been found Arctica, so 467 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.519 we don't know what's out there, you know. It's it's funny you mentioned 468 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.360 that, you said maybe World War one and World or two may have had 469 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:23.440 to do with land. Remember Nazi Germany declared new Swabia um their land back 470 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:30.599 in nineteen thirty eight. So oh and remember during that time heard about the 471 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.320 same time frame when was Hitler named Time Magazines Man of the Year. I 472 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.760 think it was the same year, wasn't it Time Man. Let me do 473 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.840 a quick second of research, fat check myself. It was nineteen thirty eight, 474 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.239 he was. He was a Time Magazines Man of nineteen thirty eight, 475 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:52.599 the same year they found new Swabia UM. So maybe you know the secret 476 00:35:52.480 --> 00:36:00.000 and that is that uh a country now? Or is no new Swabia? 477 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.880 Is they went to Antarctica at first that they the Nazis went to Antarctica back 478 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.400 in the thirties and they said they stopped their flagging the ground. They said, 479 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.760 hey, this is we call this new Swabia. Oh so Antarctica they 480 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.679 called new Swabia. Oh yeah. The Germans were down there in the thirties 481 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.239 exploring. And if you think think about this, remember after World War One, 482 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:31.119 after Germany lost, Weimar Republic kicked in and Germany there's people don't understand 483 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:37.199 how broke Germany was. And it's an amazing story. All the other stories 484 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.719 you hear, I'm we're just talking about the country and its finances itself. 485 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:46.920 We're not getting to any other things, but how that country h revitalized itself 486 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.599 because in the twenties they were the poorest of poor countries. And then when 487 00:36:52.679 --> 00:37:00.639 when Hitler came back in and uh, you know, right about the time 488 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.559 this New Swabia thing and all this technology. There's pictures that these guys had 489 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.360 in the thirties, they had like skype. Back in the thirties, they 490 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.039 they had these telephones with TVs and they were talking to people like things we 491 00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:16.599 wouldn't see here for for decades. So I subscribe to the fact, Donnie, 492 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:21.840 like you, I think it was not only about I think I just 493 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.840 there's some puzzle pieces missing, but Antarctica technology, Um, there there is 494 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.440 something going on down there. Maybe there is land Like Admiral Birld said, 495 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:37.480 you know, Admiral Bird said, yeah, I think there might be. 496 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.639 And yeah maybe they maybe they just they they were using the resources they found 497 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:46.280 on that land to enrich enriched themselves, right Hitler and the Nazis, And 498 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.599 maybe that's how they they came to came to power, right if they if 499 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:58.280 they discovered some resources out there, Um and and they and I don't I 500 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.760 don't think that he uh you know he committed suicide either I think he got 501 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.119 away or um are you talking about it for an Argentina? Yeah? Yeah, 502 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:13.679 oh yeah he went to Argentina for sure. I've seen interviews with people 503 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:19.400 who supposedly it was like his housekeeper, and I've seen enough pictures of German 504 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:24.000 artifacts that were found down there to to certainly buy into that. Yeah. 505 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.239 Um, but yeah, it's a it's all, Um, it's all. 506 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.559 I'm not it's all super interesting. I mean I don't I don't have everything 507 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.039 uh I figured out, but um, but yeah, I think flat Earth 508 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:45.480 was was huge for me. It's it was hum like a renewed outlook on 509 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.000 life kind of you know. Um. And I think that that it's more 510 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.039 it's more complicated than what they're telling us. You know, they're they're I 511 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:59.320 mean this universe that they that they teach us that's out there is that's pretty 512 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:04.000 complicated I think here on Earth. I think there's technologies that they're hiding from 513 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:10.280 us in some of the tartaria um stuff that I've looked into, Um, 514 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:16.159 you know, just harnessing energy from the ether and uh and distributing it through 515 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.360 all these spires and these buildings that are that have these giant openings that that 516 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.639 are completely useless for six foot men um, but a lot more more sense 517 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.880 for you know, fifteen foot giant um and a lot of these old buildings. 518 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.599 And then you have and then you have these these crazy fires in eighteen 519 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:43.239 hundreds in San Francisco, in Chicago and all over California. Actually, like 520 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.599 I think there was a lot in California. There was a lot in the 521 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.920 Midwest, you know, even I think New York had some fires. Um, 522 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.480 you know, they were destroying buildings and and I don't think there were 523 00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.920 fires either, um you know, maybe they were bombed or or or something. 524 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:07.559 But what about the the Great Chicago Fire? Yeah, yeah, the 525 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.280 Great Chicago Fire too. Um yeah, I mean I think they destroyed a 526 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.960 lot of a lot of these these old buildings that were that were made out 527 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.079 of stone, but had but uh, you know, possibly distributed free energy. 528 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:27.239 Um. And they did they you know, um us came came in 529 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.360 and and uh and saw an opportunity to make a bunch of money, and 530 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.760 and uh they put an end to that. Yeah, you can't charge for 531 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:42.199 free energy. Right. And part of the whole thing is to keep us 532 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.440 in debt. They want us to pay for everything. Uh, to keep 533 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:46.719 us working, to keep us busy, so we can't sit around and have 534 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.000 these type of conversations. Um, have you looked mute? Go ahead? 535 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.280 And I'm sorry, buddy, go ahead. Oh no, you can ask 536 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.400 that. But but distract us with TV, right, yeah, give us 537 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.199 a bunch of stuff to watch on TV. Exactly. Have you gone down 538 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:07.679 the World's Fair road yet? Which one? World's Fair? A little bit? 539 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.639 Yeah, I actually bought a book on the World's Fair, but I 540 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.840 haven't read it. Um um, but yeah, like that one. They've 541 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.679 a little bit, I've you know, they they supposedly built these buildings in 542 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:24.280 like six months to a year, These like just tremendous buildings and these these 543 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.719 huge um you know, a huge lake, these huge statues that were that 544 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.400 were just tremendous structures, right, and then they go and knock them down 545 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.719 six months later. It makes no sense. No, it's ridiculous, the 546 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.079 whole thing. So this, you know, it's funny when you see things, 547 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:50.559 all these fires and um, there's something called the Organic Act of Washington, 548 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.000 DC, which kind of all these things happened reconstruction. When was all 549 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.559 this stuff was right around eighteen seventy. That number is a number that continues 550 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.239 to pop up for me. Yeah, eighteen seventy one. I uh, 551 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.280 yeah, I like to look it into history too, like the Vatican had 552 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:13.760 a council in the eighteen seventy esh range um, and something else big happened 553 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:19.079 in the eighteen seventy eighteen seventy one with U maybe it was Rockefeller and the 554 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:24.559 and the schools um or or something like that. There there was a there 555 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.599 there were some big changes in the in the late eighteen hundreds, um, 556 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.639 and just big decisions that were made and and uh like world changing uh decisions 557 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.800 and changes that were made and um, and yeah, I mean I think 558 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.000 it can. I think it's been a constant struggle, like all the wars, 559 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.119 like what the United States did to to to the natives here and and 560 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.920 I think there were more than just Native Americans. There were there were different 561 00:42:54.280 --> 00:43:00.039 different civilizations that were that were here, um that were I mean Native Americans 562 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.920 are I mean yeah, they were all Native Americans, but there were different 563 00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.360 types of civilizations that were building these these huge, tremendous structures. And then 564 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.880 there there were other obviously other civilizations. But you know this, the Britons 565 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:22.960 came in here and just wiped all just stole the land and um. And 566 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:29.599 you know that's something that I've been uh um struggling with two like uh being 567 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.480 proud of this flag, you know what I mean? Um, In in 568 00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.960 all this research, I think it it was it's horrible what what we did, 569 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.639 like just robbing people of their culture all over the world. Actually, 570 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.599 like we've done that in China, and we've done that in um, in 571 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.280 Africa, South America, all over the world. UM. And it's not 572 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.719 just America, it's it's it's the West in general, right that the controllers, 573 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.400 the New World Order whatever, um you want to call it. But 574 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:06.519 but yeah, I think it's it's horrible what what the the West is doing 575 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.920 has done yeah, throughout our history and who knows what our actual history is. 576 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.360 When I started looking into all this stuff like, you know, what 577 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.000 they tell us is one thing, and what actually happened, I'm pretty sure 578 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.679 is something else. Absolutely, I was just interviewing like a guy last night, 579 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.079 Tristan, and I said, it's interesting that they founded the Illuminati May 580 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.440 first, seventeen seventy six, and just two months later, you know, 581 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.559 we were officially born. And George Washington, if you go down and look 582 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.199 at his memorial, it looks that he was more proud of being a Freemason 583 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.079 than he was of being president of the United States. Of course that's if 584 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.159 you believe the story. But there you go. Yeah. I also heard 585 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.079 that he wasn't technically the first president of the United States either, I mean 586 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.920 seventeen seventy six, and then he became president in seventeen eighty nine, I 587 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:04.039 think, And so there there's a little gap there where. Um. You 588 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.719 know, I've I've heard some uh, some theories that um, you know, 589 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.840 there there were a couple other presidents before him, but they wanted to 590 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:17.719 erase those people from history, you know. Really. Yeah, I don't 591 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.599 know, I don't know how if that's true, but I've heard that. 592 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.280 Um. Um, but yeah, it's uh, it's it's interesting. I 593 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.519 mean I I don't. Yeah, I mean and some of these characters too, 594 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.280 right, like like Newton, uh, you know, Copernicus. They 595 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.000 teach this stuff. But but in the end, like some of these people 596 00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:45.000 like uh that that came up with the globe theory, they could really be 597 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:50.280 made up. Characters that were that they tell us were just geniuses and they 598 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.400 were so smart and uh and um, you know they said the Earth is 599 00:45:54.440 --> 00:46:00.960 a globe, so we gotta believe them. Sure was a fraud as well. 600 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.000 I've heard that, yeah, like it and and I've heard that he 601 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:09.159 never Um he was a horrible speaker, like he he sounded like an idiot 602 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.199 when he actually talked to people, you know what I mean. But thank 603 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:19.480 you God, more credit for for all these theories and stuff and um, 604 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.519 you know, like pseudoscience in the end, like time gravity has to do 605 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.360 with like time space and all this stuff. I think they're just trying to 606 00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:32.079 confuse just average people to make it seem like this world is more complicated than 607 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:36.920 it actually is. And it's and it's so complicated that I can't even understand 608 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.559 it. They're doing that on purpose, exactly. It's it's it's above your 609 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.239 head. You wouldn't understand that that's kind of the way they speak. And 610 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.400 there's a lot of interesting books out there as well. There's even some theories 611 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:52.920 out there that um, um, Albert Einstein's first wife was actually the one 612 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:54.840 that did all the collaborations of work the papers. A lot of people say 613 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.280 that, uh he stole from Nicola Tesla. Just there's so many theory he's 614 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.039 out there. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to, yeah, look into 615 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.599 that a little bit more too. But yeah, I mean, but but 616 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.199 they tell us that Einstein's the smartest guy that ever was, right, Yeah, 617 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.119 I don't think so. It's a shame that Tesla. You know, 618 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:21.280 here's this guy, he died penniless, and um he really um, I 619 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.519 really do wonder if he you know, he knew there was free energy. 620 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.159 And there's been people in the world recently who have proven that you can run 621 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:38.960 engines on on on water, right, Um yeah exactly. Yeah, Stanley 622 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:44.679 Meyer back uh thirty years ago or so. And then just recently that the 623 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.039 security guard who was killed at the uh the Buffalo Top shooting. Um, 624 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.519 he was a retired police officer and just the year prior had been um on 625 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:57.840 the local news this little spot saying hey, look, one of a Buffalo 626 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.360 native created a car that would run on like on water and he just so 627 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.519 happen to be the guy killed at the Buffalo shooting. What a what a 628 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.719 coincidence? Right? And and uh, you know, I think it's I 629 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.599 think it's clear that they'll kill a lot of people to to to get one. 630 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.159 You know, the Titanic, that's another one. I mean the Titanic. 631 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.000 You look at JFK. That there was a uh I think two hundred 632 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:29.400 people were killed after JFK's murder to clean that up. Oh oh, definitely 633 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.559 like that. Yeah, they had to clean up a lot of a lot 634 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.840 of messes and with JFK, yep and even and the impact of that was 635 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.639 was just huge. You know, like actually I think I might have heard 636 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.719 it on your podcast where where you know, the moon landing, the fake 637 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.280 moon landing probably wouldn't have happened if JFK was uh wasn't killed. The CIA 638 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.519 might have been uh disbanded if you know, if he got what he wanted. 639 00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:00.800 Um, Vietnam wouldn't have happened if if if they didn't take him out, 640 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:07.400 and you know they there was it was a major like it was like 641 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.360 a biblical event like that, the JFK assassination. In my mind, it 642 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.199 was the turning point of this country. And as you were saying those events, 643 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:20.519 I started to wonder myself. I wonder, I wonder what the world 644 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.920 would be like if if one person would have stepped up and prevented that from 645 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.159 happening. And I was trying to picture a world where there was no CIA, 646 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.440 no Vietnam War, and it's it kind of makes me sad to think 647 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:37.039 that that one event, which was very much a ritual sacrifice as well the 648 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:43.440 numerology involved where it happened. I mean, it's it's pretty deep us, 649 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:50.639 specifically with the eleven twenty two numerology and go ahead, yeah, yeah, 650 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.880 yeah, eleven twenty two sixty three. Yeah, And I I believe it 651 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.639 too, like you. Yeah, they they they do things on certain dates 652 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:05.679 for for specific reasons. And I don't that's something that I haven't looked too 653 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.920 much in numerology and dematria and all that. I haven't looked into that too 654 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:13.440 much. But I believe it. Yeah, And and there's a reason all 655 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.280 these events happen in April as well. This week. This coming week is 656 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.719 known as the Feast of Malik and sacrifice. And you look at all the 657 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:28.079 events that happened going back to the Titanic U. Yep, you had Waco, 658 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.639 you had Oklahoma City. All these events always happen, Uh, you 659 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.559 know around the fifteenth and nineteenth of May or April, excuse me, not 660 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.960 May. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wonder why it's it's April. I 661 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:45.440 guess April's like a Satanic monthly Satanic period for some reason. Yeah, the 662 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:52.519 date has something to do with Moloch. It's uh, the Feast of Moloch 663 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.760 is what it's known for. And um, you know Bush was a pretty 664 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:01.079 evil guy, and uh he was the y he said a New World Order 665 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.639 on you know, he announced the New World Order on September eleventh, nineteen 666 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:10.400 ninety, and then eleven years later to the day September eleventh happened. Oh 667 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:15.400 wow, Yeah, I uh, you know, I was I was brought 668 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.800 up conservative. I like to you know, I generally liked to like the 669 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.199 Bushes. But then, you know, later on in my life I realized 670 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:29.199 that, you know, I think the Bush senior, HW's dad funded the 671 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:35.039 Nazis was a basically drug cartel, and which means that you know, his 672 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:42.639 son was probably uh you know, pushing drugs and his son w Bush was 673 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:47.880 probably pushing drugs. And um, you know, I think, uh yeah, 674 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:51.840 I mean I think yeah, yeah, I mean I I like Bush 675 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:55.760 back then, w um and then now I realized that he was an evil 676 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.039 man too, although he might have been more of a puppet a little bit, 677 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:04.079 but um, but yeah, like the whole Bush family I think is 678 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:09.559 just it is an evil family, very very evil family. And HW people 679 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:14.039 used to in Texas they call him Poppy like it's sweet, like it's old 680 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.719 poppy. But the reason his name is poppy is it goes the poppy seeds. 681 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.079 He was a big, big drug guy going back to American Maid. 682 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.639 And that's why he had no problem losing to Clinton because what you know, 683 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.880 Clinton allowed him to use Mina to run those drugs back in the eighties and 684 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.719 mena Arkansas. Yes, oh then that wasn't American Med. Yeah, because 685 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.519 he was in Arkansas. Yeah, That's that's why they chose Clinton to be 686 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.800 the next guy, because Clinton, you know, he played he played ball. 687 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.400 He allowed them to run drugs through his state, so he was next 688 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.599 in line. Yep. And I and I, uh, you know, 689 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.199 it made me look at at New Mexico differently too, because we're right at 690 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.119 the border. And and uh, I think you got to be pretty corrupt 691 00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:00.599 to be governor in New Mexico. Oh yeah, I bet and so and 692 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:06.320 I uh, you know that's uh. And and just probably I mean a 693 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.440 governor anywhere. I mean, you got you gotta you gotta play ball with 694 00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:15.480 these with the with the controllers, with the with the big boys UM to 695 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.920 be in in any powerful position, you know. Yeah, I wanted to 696 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.559 regress for just a second because something I meant to ask you earlier that just 697 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:27.920 popped back in my mind, going back to the great fires and everything else 698 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:34.519 with Tartaria. Do you think UM went about to you suspecting your um readings 699 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.960 into your research that this mud flood happened? And was it worldwide event or 700 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:45.079 was it certain areas. I think it was a weapon, Like they came 701 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:50.519 in with a weapon and and and uh, you know, maybe sound residents 702 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:59.119 and vibrations and just just with sound just rocked the hills and made and made 703 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.719 mud flood the valleys. I think, you know, I think it was 704 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:07.679 a war tactic personally, and I I don't know when they happened, but 705 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:10.239 but yeah, and if you look at it. I've looked at the map, 706 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.079 right if you look at, um, you know, the the western 707 00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:21.519 United States, Arizona and New Mexico where the last um the last states into 708 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:27.519 the United States or a bit continental or is that the right word. Yeah, 709 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.239 the mainland, um, the last the last two states, and we're 710 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:37.280 we're the desert states, right, um. And I think that may have 711 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.280 happened where they turned they turned, um some good land into into desert. 712 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:47.280 And you look at like at northern Africa and up through the Middle East up 713 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:54.320 into like cy Mongolia, um, Siberia, like it's it's just like wiped, 714 00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:00.639 wiped like a desert like ah, those who areas are just wiped clean 715 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.679 of of any vegetation and any life kind of thing, you know, if 716 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:10.119 you look at the map and um yeah, I mean I think I think 717 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:20.400 there was some um advanced uh sound frequency weapons that were used to cause those 718 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:28.000 It's it's not far fetched. I mean they they've been admitting to controlling the 719 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.039 weather for quite some time, going back to Vietnam with Operation Popeye, and 720 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:37.639 it's it's just always convenient, like countries like Iran is constantly having uh earthquakes, 721 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.639 UM so you know, obviously they probably do have some technology. And 722 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:49.559 it's interesting that you use sound maybe certain vibrations that trigger things. Uh yeah, 723 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:54.679 I mean I've I've looked, like I've heard about this this guy like 724 00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:59.840 it was it was like, uh maybe mid nineteen hundreds, maybe a little 725 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:05.920 earlier, who supposedly like using he built like stone structures like the not on 726 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.480 the scale of the Pyramids or or or like uh you know, he's just 727 00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:15.519 a single man, but he he was able to build structures out of heavy 728 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:21.159 stone by himself. And the story is that people heard him just like humming 729 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:27.639 or or or singing or in his backyard and then he'd he'd build these structures 730 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.880 in his backyard. Um, like you know, pretty amazing structures out of 731 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:37.719 heavy stone and um. And you know, I think that this world is 732 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:43.519 just more confident. I mean, all these they extract the metals from our 733 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:49.559 rock, right they they they destroy it and concentrate like the these metals to 734 00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:55.920 conduct electricity. But those rocks naturally have those that conducting material in them. 735 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.400 But that you know, these scientists have just learned to extract that conducting t 736 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.480 out and build wires out of it. But I think you know there's a 737 00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:13.920 way to use the God's natural rocks without them, right, Yes, I 738 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:21.639 think there's a way to utilize that that their properties without umn melting them, 739 00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:27.719 concentrating them and turning them into wires and all that and spend a couple hundred 740 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:34.199 bucks. Yes, exactly, and and just that with the construction of the 741 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.559 pyramids, like you know, just being in civil engineering, like you know, 742 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.199 that was a big big thing to look into is and talk about, 743 00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:45.079 was like how were these these pyramids constructed? And there's all kinds of ideas 744 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:46.920 using water float you know, float them up to the top, you know, 745 00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:52.760 using ramps and all this stuff. But I think that possibly they were 746 00:57:52.840 --> 00:58:00.320 using sound um to to levitate the blocks somehow and and get and place them 747 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:06.760 just perfectly where they need to be. Um. I think that's a that's 748 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.599 a possibility, um but um. But yeah, like that, that's that's 749 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.960 one of those those interesting things too, is the pyramids, Like I think 750 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:21.239 that those were for those were utilized for energy, then they were definitely not 751 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.840 uh tombs for for anybody, certainly, I agree. I think tomorrow I'll 752 00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:30.400 go outside with my synthesizer and see if I can get some rocks to levitate. 753 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:36.119 That is so interesting. It's yeah, these are the things I think 754 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.480 of as well. It's so interesting to to to listen to this. Um, 755 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:45.239 have you had any success in uh sharing you know, you've been new 756 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.760 to the flat Earth for a few months. Have you had any success sharing 757 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:54.280 your knowledge and getting people to to hear you out a little bit? Actually? 758 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.840 Yeah, Like I got I got some some people at work, um 759 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.840 listening to me like uh. At first, like I was just asking questions. 760 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.480 I was just I was just bringing some stuff up here and they're like, 761 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.599 dude, you're crazy, like what are you talking about? And then 762 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:13.320 um, but then after a while, uh, like the more I just 763 00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.480 got him to think, and then holy holy shit, and then they started 764 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.400 thinking about it. And then uh and yeah, like I wouldn't say that 765 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:25.079 they're um, flat earthers, but they're they're they're thinking about it, and 766 00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:29.119 they know something's up, you know. And not not only that, but 767 00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.320 one one one guy at work in particular, UM, you know, he 768 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:36.800 was he didn't believe in God before, but then he started looking into this. 769 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.039 And I don't know if I can if he considers himself a you know, 770 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.960 like a flat earther, But um, but he's looked into all this 771 00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.800 and he comes over to me every once in a while and and he's like, 772 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.880 um, you know, with with the firmament and and with all that, 773 00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.119 He's like, it pretty much means there's the creator, it doesn't it. 774 00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.840 And I'm like, I think so, I think I think it does. 775 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:06.000 That. That's interesting because that's great too, because I would say of 776 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.840 the people who's been on this program as said the exact same thing, Um 777 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.360 that you know, maybe they had a relationship with God, but it was 778 01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.199 wasn't super close or they didn't have one at all. And flat Earth it 779 01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:22.679 seems like the one story that always comes back is it it does bring a 780 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:28.199 closer relationship to God. It's like this was not accidental. There's no Big 781 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:32.559 Bang theory, no evolution. Uh, this was created smartly by someone who 782 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:38.920 chose us to be here. Yes, I'm absolutely convinced to that. And 783 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:43.760 the Big Bang is just is silly when you look at it. You know, 784 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.400 you just again you just trust this. Trust the science, right, 785 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.320 trust the science, Trust the science. And they say that you know, 786 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.760 there there was nothing and then this Big Bang happened and and life and consciousness 787 01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:02.880 came from nothing. Um, that that is way more crazier than we were 788 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.880 created. Like it, it's the chances of that happening are beyond astronomical to 789 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:16.920 for for proteins to form from nothing and without any with that, without any 790 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:23.599 designer, without any creator. It's um, it's it's the big bang is 791 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:30.800 silly compared to creation. And but the general public thinks the opposite, right 792 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:36.880 absolutely, That's why they get their folks like Neil de Grasse Tyson and uh 793 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.559 Bill and I the fraud guy you know out there. And to think to 794 01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:45.719 think that I was in classroom during the nineties pushing all this propaganda on people 795 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.960 is abhorrent to me. Yeah. Yeah, I used to like him. 796 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.360 I used to watch Bill and I used to get a kick out of him 797 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.559 and um. And but yeah, you know, I was, I was. 798 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.760 I've always been good at math and science, so like I was, 799 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.840 you know, and and just it came easy to me and um, and 800 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.199 so you know, it was it was always interesting. And then I find 801 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:10.239 out now, which is uh, actually, I mean it's not it's not 802 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.199 even that disappointing. It like I said, it's more enlightening. But um, 803 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.079 but yeah, like all this science, it's it's not real that that 804 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.960 I was taught in school. No, it's not at all. And speaking 805 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:30.000 of that, Um, did you ever buy into what was going on which 806 01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:34.599 started in March twenty twenty and shutting down in the country and uh, you 807 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.760 know, the the push on vaccinations. Do you how did that affect you 808 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:43.280 in your area? And um, what were your thoughts on that whole thing? 809 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.639 Uh? Yeah, we had um at first. Actually I was. 810 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.719 I was U. We were pretty freaked out. Like I went out and 811 01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:55.639 bought U like some survival gear and like bought a gun and and an Ammo, 812 01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.199 and like I was like, uh, what what's going on here? 813 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:04.880 You know, like at first and Mark they basically March April twenty twenty, 814 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.360 but then after a while, you know, like they you know, they 815 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.960 started shutting things down. And at first I was like whatever, you know, 816 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.239 I worked from home, stayed away from people, wore my mask. 817 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.599 And then the more people thought about it, the more people talked about it, 818 01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.320 They're like, Okay, these masks don't work. And so then I 819 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.079 was like, yeah, what what are we wearing these masks for? What 820 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:28.199 this this this isn't doing anything for us, Like all this is doing is 821 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.119 cutting oxygen off from from US and UM and in New Mexico we were I 822 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.519 think we were one of the last states to get rid of the mandate for 823 01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.559 for masks UM. But you know, I like whenever I was out, 824 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:45.400 I complied whatever. But but but now it took me like a couple months 825 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:52.119 to snap out of it and then and then just uh um realize. Actually 826 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:59.960 my opinion is that it was released on purpose to impact the twenty twenty election. 827 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.639 They needed Trump out and you know the BLM riots were all to get 828 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:10.840 Trump out. You know, everything that happened in twenty twenty was to push 829 01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:15.400 out the current president of the United States. The Summer of Love and yeah, 830 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:21.000 it's interesting. Election is uh next next fall? And h that's what's 831 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:24.960 his name. Fauci was just on record last week as saying there'll be another 832 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.440 one next year, and it'd be very interesting to see if if if they 833 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.920 did it again. I wonder how many people would would go back to believe 834 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:39.960 in it. Not as many here now. I won't I won't be fooled 835 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:44.400 again, and I think there's a lot of people. I think the majority 836 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.320 will not be fooled again with that. But one thing that I have thought 837 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.800 about is you know, it looks like we're getting closer and closer to war, 838 01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:56.360 and you know, wartime president presidents like like you know, Bush people 839 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.960 start liking them. Um, and I think that's something that could happen. 840 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.840 And as if you know, before the twenty twenty four election, Um, 841 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:12.039 start a war and look good doing it and and uh gain the support of 842 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.119 the masses. You know, well, I mean if it becomes a world 843 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:20.239 war, it becomes more impactful from that because you gain wartime powers that you 844 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:26.039 don't have during peacetime. And um, you know he could they could just 845 01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:29.880 control everything with that. You look at the powers he had during the quote 846 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.719 unquote emergency powers of covid Um. The big one being that not a lot 847 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.079 of people knew of no bid contracts for the last three years, they could 848 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.559 award it to anybody. So if you're wondering why all these politicians got rich 849 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:44.320 over the last three years, it's because all the contracts in the federal government 850 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:49.159 have been awarded to the politicians. Friends. Yeah, no bid contracts, 851 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:55.800 no bid kind that just ended a few weeks ago. Yeah. It makes 852 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.760 me sick, like like there there there's uh, I don't I don't know 853 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.159 if if any of them are not corrupt, you know, UM yeah, 854 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:11.719 not making money UM illegally. This is UM more of a reach. But 855 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:15.400 do you think, you know, with a whole agenda twenty thirty and everything, 856 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.480 is it possible they're ramping up for another I mean, would you consider 857 01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.960 eighteen seventy the reset the mud floods and the great fires? Would you call 858 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.760 that a great reset? And would you see them trying to do that again 859 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.719 here in the next few years? I can, I can, Like I 860 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:38.519 I think, UM, they're clearly trying to reduce the population. Bill Bill 861 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:41.360 Gates and and others come out and straight up say it, you know, 862 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:50.360 like they're they'll they'll release another UM another something something UH to to to uh 863 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:57.440 reach their goal of reducing the population. They'll they'll start a war. They'll 864 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:03.039 um fake and attack. UH. They've done it before, UM in the 865 01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:08.639 United States. Like I, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they faked 866 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:13.519 an attack within the United States to UM and and something of that order, 867 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:15.039 right, and then just say that, oh, yeah, you know Russia 868 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:17.719 or China, they they they bombed us, we need to go to war 869 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:24.280 and UM that that wouldn't surprise me one bit. But I think the agenda 870 01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:29.199 twenty thirty, like that's a big I think it's a big deal to me, 871 01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:31.960 Like they're they're trying to take over the world by twenty thirty. In 872 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:36.480 my mind, you know, I agreed. That's that's the way I look 873 01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:42.599 at it. Um. Is there anything that we UM haven't touched on that 874 01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:47.960 you wanted to talk about? UM? Not and not really, I guess 875 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.880 what one other thing, just like, uh, the way that I look 876 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:57.000 at the world now, it's like it's clear that there's, uh, there's 877 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.760 a battle of good versus evil, just like oh yeah, that's written in 878 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.960 the Bible, you know, like there's a battle of there's a spiritual warfare 879 01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.880 going on and and uh, you know, I definitely want to be on 880 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:12.400 the good side and UM, and I'd like to do, you know anything 881 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.920 I can, you know, to to try to um help that cause, 882 01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:21.319 help the the the right cause, you know, and and get the people 883 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:28.399 that are running things out because I think that needs to happen for UM, 884 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.439 for the world. I think I think it's uh, there's nothing else more 885 01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:40.159 important. UM. Something else I meant to ask you with how is your 886 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:45.560 education system out there with your children? Are they in public education? Um, 887 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.560 those type of questions, because that's for me, that's a big deal, 888 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.680 um, because they've they've done such a travesty. And again this is 889 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:58.199 not um a swipe at school teachers. I know a lot of people get 890 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.680 into the teacher I have friends who were school teachers, and they go into 891 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.159 it with a giant heart to make and some of them do make differences in 892 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:09.720 children's lives, but they're handcuffed to the curriculum that they're allowed to teach. 893 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:14.560 Is that something that you think about or discussed often? Um? I my 894 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.279 kids are actually a little bit older. Um, they're they're in um, 895 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.279 in college or two of them are in college age. One of them is 896 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:28.119 software in high school okay, Um. And so you know I actually didn't 897 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:38.119 start uh thinking that, thinking that they're the indoctrination was so um um was 898 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.800 just such a such a big thing. You know, I didn't. I 899 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.039 didn't think that until more recently. And so UM, you know my my 900 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:48.880 kids, Um, they yeah, they went they all went to public school, 901 01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:55.119 and UM, you know they uh, they just they just went through 902 01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.279 their schooling. They didn't like it, you know, they just did their 903 01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.720 homework because they did they had to, they got decent grades, they graduated, 904 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.359 um and um. You know, with with my older kids, I 905 01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:10.800 didn't. I didn't put much thought into it. Um um. But now 906 01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.479 with my with my younger one, um yeah, I mean she she's the 907 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.239 same way like she she she doesn't really uh you know, care too much 908 01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:24.239 about school. Like during during the whole uh lockdown, I mean they expected 909 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:27.960 kids to learn off of their computer, and all she did was watch do 910 01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:30.279 look at her tiktoks, you know, like she wasn't paying attention, she 911 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.239 wasn't learning anything. And um and so yeah, that that bothered me. 912 01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:38.399 And and uh you know, like if I could do it over again, 913 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:43.560 I definitely homeschool my kids for sure. Yeah. That that whole that's still 914 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.279 really just uh, that poor class of twenty twenty to this day just uh 915 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.840 uh it bothers me so much that the way they wrecked those kids, their 916 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:57.279 proms, their their graduations, and that that whole thing is just something I 917 01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.920 guess that's another conversation for another day. But that's some then again that you 918 01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:03.880 know, one of the reasons why we continue to encounter these things is because 919 01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:08.119 no one has ever held accountable. We continue to allow these things to happen, 920 01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:13.720 we do. Yeah, and yeah, just people people go along with 921 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.560 it, you know. Just um, it's easy to control the masses, 922 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:23.000 Like I tell people that, Um, they've been they've been controlling the masses 923 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:29.199 for thousands of years literally thousands of years for sure, and mastering the art 924 01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:33.439 of controlling the masses through propaganda, through this, through through indoctrination, through 925 01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:40.840 um, through through all this stuff, you know. And and it's that 926 01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:45.199 that's uh, that's a big task David versus Goliathe type type task, you 927 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.760 know what I mean to to to stop that and to fight against it. 928 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:53.520 It is and and that's I guess that's the question I should ask you now, 929 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.640 is we're we're kind of winding down, is how do we change the 930 01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:00.359 course of history? And obviously, if it's biblical, there's not much we 931 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:01.640 can do. But at the same time, as oh, we say, 932 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:05.840 the Bible clearly states that we don't know when the when the end times are 933 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:11.800 right, when the end nobody knows. Um, So how do you think 934 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.159 what things can we do to change the course of this, you know, 935 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:20.359 evil if it's not per se biblical end times? And um, I guess 936 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:25.399 yeah, that's my question. Yeah, I guess just just spreading the word, 937 01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:27.039 you know, like that's the way I'm looking at it right now. 938 01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.960 I mean, I'm talking to my kids about flat earth. They think I'm 939 01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:36.359 crazy. Um and then I but but I but they they're listening. They 940 01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:42.479 think it's interesting. Um and uh and and all this stuff that we talked 941 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.720 about today, like I'll tell my kids about it and I'm gonna convince them 942 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.600 and then um and uh and then you know, co workers, Um, 943 01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:55.840 just just spreading the word like people piece should people should be upset about what's 944 01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:59.039 happening in the world and and um. And that's where I and I've I've 945 01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.640 brought it up to my my family, my a couple of siblings, my 946 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:06.279 parents, UM, you know, some of this stuff. But most people 947 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.119 are just like, yeah, whatever, Like I'm good, I'm raising my 948 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:16.720 kids, I get to watch TV, and um, I'm good. Yeah, 949 01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:19.680 yeah, that is interesting. That is par for the course. A 950 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:23.840 lot of people are like, I'm cool with my Netflix and chill and as 951 01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:27.560 long as it doesn't directly affect my life, then I'm cool with it. 952 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.079 But you know, you at the same time, you know, stop and 953 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.560 look at your paychecks. See how much of that money goes to taxes and 954 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:38.840 then sit down and see where that money goes, um NASA and how much 955 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:43.399 of that is going into people's pockets. It's just, you know, we 956 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:48.000 people have to stop accepting serfdom. They they really do, we we really 957 01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:55.720 do. I heard um Jesse ventura um have a good idea of uh you 958 01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.479 know, on the ballots like this is. I don't know how if this 959 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:06.319 could possibly happen, but to put um none of the above, Like when 960 01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:11.039 you on on ballots, you got you got your you got this guy, 961 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:13.680 you got this guy, and you got none of the above. And so 962 01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.039 if enough people voted none of the above, that would send a message, 963 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.359 right, Oh, you would think. But as long as I as long 964 01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:23.720 as they still had their people in power, I'm not sure they would care 965 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:28.239 so much. Well, I mean if you get if you have I mean, 966 01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.439 if if you have to do the election over again, if it's none 967 01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:35.039 of the above, Oh, I see what I'm saying, because something has 968 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.199 to have certain Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's right, Like 969 01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.399 you have to get the majority of the votes, and if none of the 970 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:44.880 above gets the majority of the votes, then no one gets the position. 971 01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.319 You know, good old Jesse. I I, uh, yeah, I 972 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:54.520 watched a video on him talking, uh the other day, and um, 973 01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:00.840 but yeah, he's he's interesting, um and um. Actually he put a 974 01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:08.239 book of his on my Amazon order in my cart to check that out see 975 01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.479 what he has to say, because I haven't looked too much, you know, 976 01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.439 into what he has to say. Yeah, I saw a video of 977 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:15.640 him speaking. It's been at least a year, but it was during his 978 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.640 book tour, and he's he's awake, he knows what's going on. I 979 01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:21.720 don't remember if it was Wakeo, Oklahoma City nine to eleven, maybe it 980 01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:26.600 was nine to eleven. But he's hip to what's going on. He knows, 981 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.359 he knows the deal. And I think he actually left the country. 982 01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:32.800 I think he lives in Mexico pretty much now. Oh yeah, I mean 983 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:38.239 I've even thought about that myself too, like it might be safer elsewhere, 984 01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:45.600 like in the not too distant future. Yeah, yeah, you're right, 985 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:47.960 especially if they're if they're done with the petro dollar. But we could be 986 01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:55.439 coming on some difficult times. Yeah, most definitely, but we'll see what 987 01:15:55.560 --> 01:16:00.279 happens. It was really really great to meet you, and I would like 988 01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.399 to give you the floor for any final words thoughts, and before I do, 989 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:08.720 I should say, uh, if Donnie's conversation resonates with you, folks, 990 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:14.680 I'm going to go ahead and put his email address in the show description 991 01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.720 and it is Donnie excuse me DM doing him in at gmail dot com. 992 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.279 And don't worry about trying to write it down or anything. It'll be in 993 01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:27.159 the show description so you can reach out to Donnie. So again I'll give 994 01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.960 you the the final words are all right, yeah, I mean I don't 995 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.439 have too much else to say other than you know, like, uh, 996 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.199 just the truth will set you free, and uh, you know, Jesus 997 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:42.960 is the truth the way in the life. Yeah, it is follow your 998 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.800 moral compass, not your wallet, and you'll do just faun Donnie. It's 999 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:47.960 been a real honor. If you could just stand by for just a second 1000 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.640 for Donnie and myself. Thank you guys so much for joining us. And 1001 01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:57.680 if you'd like to come on and you know, share your experiences and your 1002 01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:01.039 knowledge and your thoughts about the flat Earth and so many other things like Donnie 1003 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:05.279 did tonight, reach out to us at the flat Earth Files at gmail dot 1004 01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.880 com. We'll get in touch. We'll get you on the schedule and you 1005 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:14.319 can share the world, the world around the world with everyone else. For 1006 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:16.840 Donnie, I'm George. God bless you guys. Keep your head on a 1007 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:19.000 swivel until next time. We will see