1 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:28,640 Toma Lorenzo and this is the Pop Style Opinion Best Telican's Welcome back to another 2 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,439 edition of the Pso I am the t in your telow Tom Fitzgerald and I'm 3 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:34,240 here with the low on your telow. The runs on, Marcus, my 4 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:40,359 love husband. We are back from our Vacation's very happy right now, that's 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:45,320 actually very sad. I have my post vacation depression. I'm looking at the 6 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:50,840 six hundred pictures on my phone. Let's say they're homesick. I'm tripsick. 7 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:55,640 We're I'm vacation sick. Um, we haven't been. This is our first 8 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,320 podcast on almost two weeks, because well it might actually be longer than no 9 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:03,840 two weeks. Um. We recorded our last podcast on the day we left, 10 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,079 and we said it was going to be a big mystery and you had 11 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,439 to follow us on Instagram to find out where we went, and if you 12 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:15,920 did, we went to Madrid and Lisbon for like ten days and wonderful. 13 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,200 Oh my god, oh my god, let me tell you. I forgot 14 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,480 how wonder food is to travel. Yeah. I had never been to Lisbon, 15 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:25,319 and my god, I fell in love with that soth my god, 16 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Oh my god, I should have fell in love with that city. He 17 00:01:27,799 --> 00:01:32,200 was. I mean, we love Madrid. It was my first time and 18 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,239 we had the most amazing time. I mean Madrid it's gorgeous, yes, 19 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,599 as some of you probably knew. The architecture, it's gorgeous, the food, 20 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,920 the food, everything about it in this history. Yeah, when you 21 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,760 get to Lisbon, I mean Lizabeth East Lisbon, it's the oldest city in 22 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,519 one of the oldest city in the west, in Western Europe. I believe 23 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,799 it's the second. Athens is the first. I don't know, yes, 24 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,280 but it's one of the oldest cities. I didn't we were giving lessons. 25 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 It's just that I didn't know that. I knew it was old, but 26 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,280 I didn't know it was like the second of this right, um. And 27 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,000 it's and you can tell, I mean the minute you get there to talk 28 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:12,599 about old world charm and I mean, yeah, there's just nothing like it. 29 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:15,280 And we had my only grig writers that we didn't spend a little bit 30 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,800 more time in Lisbon as. I don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have 31 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,719 wanted to spend less time in Madrid. I'm just saying we should have been. 32 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:23,719 I know, I know I should too. Straight what about that. 33 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,599 But anyway, I it was well planned. We I mean we enjoyed everyone 34 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:34,439 fourteen hour days, like fourteen hour days of as much, um, just 35 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:38,439 soaking it up as possible. We also, I have had enough olives and 36 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,759 cod to last meet for quite some time. UM. And we drank gallons 37 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:46,560 of Saint Greet when we were in Madrid. Um, we had the most 38 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:51,400 wonderful time. We also went to Cintra, which is about forty minutes from 39 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:54,159 Lisbon. Lisbon, Oh my god, I cannot recommend it anything again. 40 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,759 I mean, Tom was just in love with Porsha Go. In general, 41 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,439 I wish we had had more time, as he said, to go to 42 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:04,000 port Toobo. We didn't. I mean I liked I didn't want to pack 43 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,879 too much because didn't you do you you just don't enjoy it because you're so 44 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 busy running, you know, from place to place. I didn't want that. 45 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,560 I wanted us to enjoy and you know, have the most wonderful time. 46 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:20,319 And we did. It was phenomenal. Uh made a new friend while 47 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:22,120 we were there, which was really fun. I know, I know, 48 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,800 we we don't usually do this, we would never never this, but uh, 49 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,560 when we went to CenTra and we were waiting for a train, and 50 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,879 uh, there was this young woman who was also we were going people on 51 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:38,719 the train station and she heard us talking to each other and she realized that 52 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:42,960 we were Americans, and she she just said high or whatever. I don't 53 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,159 think there was that. I think she answered a question that we had about 54 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:47,759 the schedule or something. It was something about if that was the right train, 55 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:50,719 you know, the usual, and that was you know, it led 56 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,680 to a little bit of small talk. And she was doing a trip and 57 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:55,360 she was doing like the whole youth hostel thing, and she was heading to 58 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,919 center like we were, and that was it. It was that was it 59 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,919 right? And then any other circumstance we would have just said hi, and 60 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:08,960 we actually did do that, but we ran into her again, like more 61 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,759 than once. We ran. She sat across from us on the train, 62 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:14,680 but the train was so packed we weren't we didn't really get to talk to 63 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,439 her all that much. And then um, we just were going to the 64 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,920 same places and wound up together and literally we spent the entire day with this 65 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,160 girl. Derby. Yes, we love you, Derby, doubt very much, 66 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,199 I know. But if she is, if she ever, she was 67 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,399 the sweetest woman. I mean, she was just fantastic. Yeah, I 68 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,920 mean, we had lunch with her. We we changed our plans so that 69 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,160 we were all hitting the same places at the same time. We hired a 70 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,920 took took driver to take us out to the coast, the three of us. 71 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,079 It was just amazing. We had the most amazing thing. I told 72 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,720 her at the end of the day. I was like, listening, you 73 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,279 need to understand, we are two cranky old men and we would never do 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,560 this with anyone unless they were cool and easy to be a ran. But 75 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,600 she and she was wonderful. She was so sweet. Um, she was 76 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:00,560 having the most wonderful time. She had been there for like three weeks, 77 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,639 something like. I don't want to give her life story anyway, but anyway, 78 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,439 she was having She was traveling by herself and meeting people when she loved 79 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:11,439 that. That's how why she met us. Yeah, it was just a 80 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:14,399 funny little It was fun. And then the minute we said goodbye to her 81 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:16,680 or in Lisbon, we turned around and ran smack into someone who said, 82 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,040 oh my god, are you Toma Lorenzo. Now that's crazy. Hellos to 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,439 Bill and Frank, who well, Bill and Frank were the characters on the 84 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:28,199 Last of Us, and as soon as they said introduced themselves, I was 85 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,160 like, oh, the Last of Us. Anyway, hello Bill and Frank 86 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,319 who might actually be listening. Yes, they were also very sweet, very 87 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:42,079 sweet. We were exhausted and sunburned, so we probably weren't. I mean, 88 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:44,720 I hope we were gracious, but we kept it quick and kept it 89 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,279 moving. But it was great meeting you guys. There was just insane. 90 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,759 We were living in someone and we're walking then I we I mean, we 91 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,319 heard like someone saying Tomma Lorenzo and I'm like, what, and we should 92 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,600 say. The only reason he knew because we had he had seen us on 93 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Instagram post. So it's just, you know, it's crazy. We rarely 94 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,879 post pictures of our faces, but anyway, we did some posts, a 95 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,879 couple of pictures of us, and uh, we had the most wonderful time. 96 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:13,600 And let me tell you we I can't stop traveling anymore. I have 97 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:15,839 to be traveling. I mean, we really put on hold because of a 98 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:20,759 lot of reasons, and the pandemic and damage, parents getting sick and dying 99 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,199 and books being written, and it was just, you know, this is 100 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,600 what happens life gets in the way. The years go by and you're like, 101 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:30,759 holy shit, I need to go back to those things that I love. 102 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:34,120 But it's something that we need to do more often. I forgot how 103 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:38,800 much I enjoyed. You know, I've did it a lot when I was 104 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:42,120 much younger, and I just missed it. I think we're doing a short 105 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,600 trip and I won't say where, but at Christmas time we were traveling all 106 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,519 the time. Now and we might actually let people know where we're going. 107 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,879 Yeah, but at Christmas, I'm just gonna let you know that I bought 108 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:53,800 the tickets and we're just going to be traveling all the time. Sounds good. 109 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,519 Okay, So we have a podcast ahead of us, and we have 110 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:00,800 much to discuss. The entire podcast, as week is TV talk themed, 111 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:05,240 we have a bunch of shows to review or comment upon, and some you 112 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:12,839 know news that came out this week. Two things. Before we get into 113 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:15,839 the reviews, I wanted to talk about the fact that the Hollywood Reporter did 114 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:21,160 a report on Amazon and one of the big things that don't tell me to 115 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:29,199 speed up? Are you kidding? You still have no idea? You jeezus? 116 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:39,000 Sweet little background dude. Anyway, he's little literally doing the speeded up 117 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,680 motion. Okay, anyway, came out that The Rings, The Lord of 118 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,319 the Rings, The Rings of Power, the prequel series of based on Tolkien's 119 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:53,000 work, only had a thirty seven percent of viewership completion rate in the States, 120 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,480 and I think it was forty five international. And that's bad. That's 121 00:07:56,519 --> 00:08:00,680 bad numbers. That means that only thirty seven percent of the audience finished the 122 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,399 series after starting it. That one billion dollars project, well, and this 123 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:11,199 is news because yes, it is the most expensive series supposedly in television history. 124 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:16,160 And you know, there's a lot of reasons to question the creative impetus 125 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:18,959 behind it, because it was basically Jeff Bezos, the owner of Amazon, 126 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,279 telling his people, I want a game of Thrones. I want you to 127 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,279 find me a Game of Thrones. And you know that isn't the best way 128 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,440 to launch a creative prospect. I want you to copy something else and find 129 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,679 that, you know, make money off it. I will say I loved 130 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:39,159 I know what the flaws in the show where I can understand why people It 131 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,679 didn't grab people as much as it could have, but I did love it. 132 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:48,759 I saw the flaws and it was it did get I think it was 133 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:50,679 way too slow out of the gate. I think it was trying to get 134 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,440 too cutesy about some of the connections. I'm not sure that as much as 135 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,840 I thought it was interesting to look at the hard Foots, which were the 136 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:03,320 Hobbit precursors there, they don't really have anything to do with the story, 137 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,799 and it just dragged it down. Um, we'll see, I didn't really 138 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:15,120 Um. We reviewed every episode and I was largely I wasn't effusive in my 139 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,519 praise because I could see that it wasn't really clicking. But I liked it, 140 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,279 and I'm sorry to see that. Um. I think it's a little 141 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:28,480 disturbing that these shows are that so much money is being thrown at these shows 142 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,399 without really locking down a reason for why people should watch them. You know, 143 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:37,919 it tends to be, well, this is Tolkey, and so it 144 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,360 has an audience built in, and I think there were so much focus on 145 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,559 the visual and that's all we're all. Mostly the money went, I guessed 146 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,919 because it looked stunny. I agree. I mean, the sets were incredible. 147 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,039 Everything looked amazing. But we even talked about it, and you mentioned 148 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:56,399 it's several times that the dialogue or the script was sometimes a little I don't 149 00:09:56,399 --> 00:09:58,840 know, I wasn't quite there. And you know, it had an unf 150 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,399 which to compare a timing comparison which it welcomed with House of the Dragon, 151 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,080 and too, I think a lot of people surprised. House of the Dragon 152 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:11,240 came out of the gate pretty high quality, right, um, and the 153 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,320 acting and these and the scripts were just better than the Rings of People. 154 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:20,480 Also smaller and more intimate. I think I can't complain about that, Tolki. 155 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,600 It's supposed to be large and sprawler, so that's not a problem as 156 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,159 far as I'm concerned. But I do think it has to be said that, 157 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,200 um, the cast is not on on that level. There's there's a 158 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:35,039 lot of weakness in the Rings of Power casts. UM. Sorry to say, 159 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,279 but it's true. And I wanted to return to the point that, 160 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,000 uh, this was forced out of the gate because a billionaire wanted to make 161 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:48,759 more money and wanted to copy another show and this that's a part of that 162 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,440 that that really bothers me about it is that there's no creativity and nothing against 163 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,279 the show runners who have tried their best, and I do think the show 164 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,279 still has potential. I don't think it's a failure. I don't think Amazon 165 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,600 is going to cancel it. They've already invested the money and um, if 166 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,440 you know whatever. I think it might not be five seasons, but they're 167 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,919 definitely going to do three or four seasons. And I think it was originally 168 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,080 announced as five and it could so much. A season one was set up, 169 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,080 which was a huge mistake. When you're making a billion dollar TV show, 170 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,919 you're set up should be thirty minutes. I mean, that's the setup 171 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:26,200 for The Lord of the Rings was five minutes of Kate Blanchett talking and that 172 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:31,200 was it. That was right. That's how you explained it. She explained 173 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,360 a thousand years of history and five most beautiful things they ever made done. 174 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Yeah, it is, it is. We could both quote it, but 175 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:43,679 let's not do that. Um anyway, again, going back to the point 176 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,200 about intellectual property and the lack of creativity. This ties into another bit of 177 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,559 news, which is at HBO, Max is in talks with none other than 178 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,919 JK. Rowling to launch another Harry Potter series that piv It would be a 179 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,039 television series with each season based on a one of the Harry Potter books, 180 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,240 and from what I've read, there supposedly some new take. I don't know 181 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,600 what the new take would be. I mean, oh my god, look 182 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,919 a lot of this. When this came out just this week, it was 183 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,159 met with a lot of who asked for this? Who asked for this? 184 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,120 And look, I don't like JK Rowling, and I wish people would move 185 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,840 the fuck away from the Harry Potter verse, but it's clearly still got legs 186 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:24,279 like that. They're still still clearly a fan base. Having said that, 187 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:30,080 a report came out that like JK. Rowling's earnings have dropped like seventy percent 188 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:33,960 or something in the last Honestly, I question reports like, oh so she 189 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,120 she went from why millions to z millions? Now? Yeah, I mean 190 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:48,000 she probably Yeah. The The Fantastic Beast movies did very badly. It's successively 191 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,159 worse with each one, and the third one did terribly, So there is 192 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,279 no doubt that her brand is fucked. And um, I don't think it's 193 00:12:54,279 --> 00:13:03,000 a given that a Harry Potter series would flop, but um yeah, I 194 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:07,120 wouldn't write it off. I just wouldn't completely write it off. The people 195 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,320 who are rolling their eyes out, I just well, So what I'm saying 196 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:11,480 is if you don't want this to happen, and you should not want this 197 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,559 to happen because that that that woman doesn't deserve any more money. Well put 198 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,879 into those you need to protest loudly because right now it's in the talking stages 199 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:28,240 at Warner Brothers ahead putting that horrible person in the slide. Um. Um, 200 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,240 I don't. I just don't see. I mean, I was never 201 00:13:30,279 --> 00:13:33,879 a fan of any of I never read the books. For it, it 202 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,679 was a millennial thing. Well even no, I mean well, I mean 203 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:41,159 I know a lot of millennials were talking about when the books came out. 204 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,159 That's true. Yeah, I was young, and I could have read them 205 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,919 anyway, Yes, I would that you were okay, So I never read 206 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:52,960 the books. Um, but I was never interested. I don't even I 207 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,279 don't think I've I've seen all the movies. I think I to a couple 208 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,279 anyway. Wasn't that interested. But if you are, if you read the 209 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:03,360 books and you love every character, blah blah blah, I guess. But 210 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,000 I just why bring it back? I mean I don't understand this. Well, 211 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:09,720 I mean we could say that, but why bring another Batman movie back? 212 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:13,399 Like? I mean? True? Why bring James bond back anyway. 213 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,000 But it's just a fortune because it's more money to her and to her cause, 214 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,480 and you know, and things are just so bad right now when it 215 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,480 comes to transgender you know anything. She's a huge um tan turf. She's 216 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:33,440 a transphobe. She has used her possession and money and money to relentlessly attack 217 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,200 trans people. Um. It's not even a little like side thing, it's 218 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,919 her whole thing now. Yeah, and you can see why why are we 219 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,720 singing singling her up or whatever? Well, she's a she's a zillionaire. 220 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Yeah, you single out the powerful fresh. She has more money than God, 221 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,159 and she's using that money to you know, donating money to all these 222 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,960 anti you know, trans associations and groups and so on. It's just a 223 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,600 horrible person with a lot of money, which is never good. So in 224 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,879 some rings of power, still hope when it's going to pull itself together. 225 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:11,000 I'm watching it. There's no I Like I said, I enjoyed the first 226 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:15,639 season. Didn't think it was perfect, but I enjoyed it. Harry Potter 227 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,039 two point out, let's not go there people, Let's let's yell at Warner 228 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,519 Brothers a lot and tell them not to do this. Incidentally, I think 229 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,159 Warners I may have mentioned this before. Warners in the last year has made 230 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,440 a lot of moves to cancel things and move things off its schedule, and 231 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:35,919 it is there's a large number of projects that were affronted by people of color 232 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:39,200 or queer people that just got removed from the schedule. So the fact that 233 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:45,879 they're courting a known turf like this, I don't know. I got a 234 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,679 really bad vibe off of Warner Brothers lately, just a really really bad vibe. 235 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:54,840 Anyway, that's my take on that. Now, what a TV show 236 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:56,759 do you want to talk about? First? I think we should talk Do 237 00:15:56,759 --> 00:16:00,240 you want to talk about Beef? Yeah? We can. I mean I 238 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,159 watched Beef a long time ago. The screeners, and let me just set 239 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,480 it up because you are going to do most of the talking. Be just 240 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:12,039 dropped today on Netflix, starring Steven Juan and Ali Wong, and it's a 241 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:19,200 dramatic sort of snapshot of modern anxiety and modern tension and modern rage. And 242 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,919 I mean, I think we're all walking around with a lot of anxiety and 243 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:30,000 rage right now and for various reasons. And this show centers two people with 244 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,759 very interesting stories, very interesting characters and actually two great actors. I knew 245 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:41,799 Stephen could act, but Ali is fantastic. Is such a tightly wound spring. 246 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:44,840 I want to say, I haven't watched much of it. That's why 247 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:48,679 I'm tossing to Lorenzo because he watched the whole season and screeners. So I 248 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,840 watched the whole season a long time. It has it premiered yet today? 249 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,240 Okay, So I watched it a long time ago, and I just found 250 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,039 in love with the show. First of all, I was surprised and happy 251 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,679 to see that. You know, the cast is Asian, right, um, 252 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,680 which is great. You don't see that much. Um, you're seeing 253 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,400 it more, but it's you're seeing it more about it's a rising trend. 254 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,920 It's still great to see and playing normal people doing normal things, not some 255 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,319 you know, typical Asians, not character I think normal would be a bad 256 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,200 Not normal. Yes, let's say it's just standard uh right now, daily 257 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:30,000 life type of situation. Sorry about the modern or normal expression anyway, Um, 258 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:33,599 just doing daily thing, just having you know, a regular life like 259 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,920 everybody else. Um. And and it's great because it deals also with with 260 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:44,920 stress and anxiety and um and rage that the Whope story starts with you know 261 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,400 they Um, I guess I can say that, Yeah, they have. 262 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,160 It's a road rage type of show. Uh. It happens that they there's 263 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,599 an incident between the two characters. The two characters are strangers, yes, 264 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,200 and and and that you know pretty much dictates everything that happens, um throughout 265 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,480 the entire sees. Yeah, it escalates and and it pretty much tells you 266 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,680 know, it's the starting point of the whole thing. Um. And it's 267 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,160 just a great show. I thought it was great, Uh, just very 268 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:21,440 It felt fresh, the dialogue, the situations, the and and and it's 269 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:25,640 nice because it deals a lot with the them being Asian, uh, and 270 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,759 dealing with Asian being Asian, and with their parents and the Asian culture identity 271 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,759 and all that, which is great. But it's not just focused on that. 272 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:37,400 It's also focused on their lives and things they gave up or things that 273 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,839 they had to do. Uh and you know it and their lives their careers. 274 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,160 I thought it was great. It was a great show. It felt 275 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:52,319 very modern. Um, the dialogue and the situations and and there both they 276 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,839 have amazing chemistry together. They're great, They're absolutely great together. Um. 277 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,480 The guy who plays his brother Young Musine you know, is also very good. 278 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,319 Um, everyone is great. I love the show and the um he 279 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:12,200 gets a little repetitive towards the middle, but Mike exactly. But if you 280 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:15,799 just hang in there, keep watching it, and then and and then the 281 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,000 last episode, to me, it was absolutely phenomenal. I'm not going to 282 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:25,920 give it away in anything away because it's just it was so unexpected and I 283 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,880 just loved every minute of it. Just brilliant dialogue. Uh, it's pretty 284 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,240 much just the two of them the entire episode, and it's just great, 285 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,240 great, great. Uh, the back and forth and and what they say, 286 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:41,680 you know, what they talk about. Uh, it's just amazing. 287 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:47,279 I really recommend the show. Um, it felt fresh to me, it 288 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,440 felt contemporary. Uh. And it's an all Asian cast, you know. 289 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,400 I'm about that. Um so highly. Lorenzo recommended. Oh yeah, oh 290 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,200 in Ashley Park, isn't it Yeah? And she's also amazing. Yes. 291 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,279 Um So, now I'm going to take over the micro for a second, 292 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:07,119 because you have nothing to say about The Mandalorian, which I haven't spoken about 293 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,759 at all this season. It's on its third season, and the reason I 294 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:14,720 haven't spoken about it or written about it and I, except for briefly this 295 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:19,519 week, I haven't tweeted about it. Pardon me is because it kind of 296 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:25,200 sucks. It kind of sucks. All the charm has gone out of the 297 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,119 show. I really lost a lot of interest in the Star Wars universe over 298 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,440 the last year because it has just flooded the zone with so many mediocre I 299 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,920 think my breaking point was the Obi Wan Kenobie show, because I was like, 300 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:42,279 if you can't get this right, and they couldn't. It was boring 301 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:45,960 as hell. If you can't get an obi wan Kenobi limited, you know, 302 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:48,920 like a six episode series, right, what the hell are you don't 303 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,680 like? And then they did the Boba Fette Show, which nobody asked for, 304 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:57,960 and it sucked, And they resolved the cliffhanger from season two of The 305 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,079 Mandalorian in the Boba Fete Show. So season three of The Mandalorian picks up. 306 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,440 And you know, if you didn't watch the Bubbafet show, you don't 307 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:08,799 understand that's weird. It was all of these weird I think they're trying. 308 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:14,799 They're trying to do this interconnected Marvel universe kind of thing, everything and everybody 309 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:21,519 working. It's not working. Um, I also think, uh, like 310 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:26,720 this week's episode it had Jack Black and Lizzo in it and and Christopher Lloyd 311 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,319 and wow, yeah, and well, first off, I love Lizzo, 312 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 but she can't act. She's not there yet. I know that she probably 313 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,119 I can guarantee she's moving into an acting career at something. Really. Yeah. 314 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,240 Oh, I can guarantee that she's got a big personality. Yeah that's 315 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,759 true. M yeah, I can definitely say it, but she's not there 316 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,960 yet. Um, and oh my god this. I know some people liked 317 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,799 this episode, but I actually couldn't finish it and I went and read a 318 00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:53,799 recap to see how it ended because I couldn't take any more of it. 319 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,920 After there was like ten minutes to go, and I was like, no, 320 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:02,920 I'm sorry, I'm out. Um. I think a huge problem is 321 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,759 that they have lost focus from the main character, which is Den Jaron, 322 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:15,680 which is m Pedro Pascal's character. And I, yeah, you said that, 323 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:18,519 like he's the main character and he's barely there. He's in it, 324 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:23,160 but he's not really driving the story anymore. And even Grogu Baby Yoda is 325 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:26,920 just this prop that gets passed around that doesn't really have an arc anymore. 326 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:32,400 Or you know, um, like there was a point to Baby Yoda's story 327 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,400 where he was trying to find a home for this Jedi you know, blah 328 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,319 blah blah, this four sensitive and that's just all been let go. Really, 329 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,240 none of that's in there anymore, and now it's about, you know, 330 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,559 the Mandalorian culture and bring it in together. And that's fine, I 331 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:52,759 guess, but um, you know, the first two seasons were den Jaron 332 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,839 in his Mandalorian armor and being super cool and everything, and now it's him 333 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,519 in a group of literally one hundred other people wearing similar arts. I mean, 334 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,960 okay, so right, yeah, he was like, now he's not 335 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,880 Now he's just one of them. And they've also really gone in hard on 336 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,559 the never removing the helmet thing, which is of course built into the character's 337 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,400 lure and background, but they kind of found ways once a season or so 338 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,839 to have him remove his helmet so that Pedro Pascal could actually be on screen. 339 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,839 And the thing is, the more the harder they lean into that whole 340 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,240 thing, the more it's like it's very hard for me as a viewer to 341 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,480 really get behind because it's cultish, it's weird cultish behavior, it's disgusting and 342 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,640 unigenic. There's just not a lot of reason for me as a viewer to 343 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200 be like, yes, I want to learn more about these people who probably 344 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,799 smell really bad, Like they all look the same, right, And I 345 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,519 don't know, it's not working for me. I don't think. I think 346 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:55,519 leaning so hard into the Mandalorian, you know, cult aspects is you've lost 347 00:23:55,519 --> 00:24:00,319 the originality with the character. You're relying on a lure that is it's just 348 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,359 not great. I mean, at least like Jedi were always flawed from the 349 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Gecko. There's a lot of reasons you can say you shouldn't bring the Jedi 350 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:11,359 back, but at least they were cool. At least they looked cool doing 351 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,680 what they did. But the Mandalorians, admittedly they do look cool. I've 352 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,440 said all along, he's basically the Star Wars version of Batman. But they 353 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,519 that whole mythos, that whole thing about never removing your helmet, and it's 354 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:30,960 just it's not working for me. Also, there is a focus on Bocatan, 355 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,880 who was being played by Katie Sakoff. Gotta say, the problem isn't 356 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,039 her, If anything, the problem is that she's so good that she's removing 357 00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:44,079 even more focus from him. There's an interesting story there about her and about 358 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,960 her quest and about what she's being charged with doing. But I hate to 359 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,319 say it, but like, go give her a series if that's what you 360 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,880 want, because this whatever I liked about The Mandalorian's first two episode seasons, 361 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,440 it's just not happening for me anymore. That's a shame. That's a shame 362 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920 because even I watched the first thing and loved it. Yeah, and dull 363 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,799 it feels. I can tell there's a direction, but I'm not invested in 364 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,799 it. That's the thing. It's not entirely direction list, it's just that 365 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,680 I'm not interested in the direction it's going in. I tend to think the 366 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,279 the Star Wars universe is just starting to get overstopped and overdeveloped. I don't 367 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:26,680 know that I will watch the Ahsoka series that's coming out with Rosario Dawson. 368 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,960 I never got into the cartoons and all that stuff, and they're leaning heavily 369 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240 on that lore right now. That's fine. I'm not mad at it, 370 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:38,119 but it's not from me. It's not really interesting me all that much. 371 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:45,799 They just announced today this morning that Jay z Ridley is coming back as Ray 372 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,519 Skywalker. In a new movie, and I'm like, yeah, I really 373 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,200 liked her, really liked her in the part and everything, and I would 374 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:56,559 not have been opposed to seeing that character again, but not this quickly and 375 00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:00,240 not that supposedly he's just going to rest how much the Jedi order And I'm 376 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:04,720 like, okay, all right, that's really not grabbing me in any way. 377 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,000 Shape before they should have given John Boyega a movie. I would have 378 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:12,119 liked to have seen that character come back. Anyway, those are my Star 379 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,119 Wars, he thoughts. I still love in Star type of card Karta, 380 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,599 stay still living for that shit. I will be doing a right up on 381 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,440 that when the season wraps up in a week or in two weeks. Actually, 382 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,319 it's not flawless, but it's so good. It's just the best Star 383 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,200 Wars. It's a great cast. Right, I'm wanna say it's the best 384 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,240 Star Wars because I gotta say I just recently watched Strange New World, rewatched 385 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:38,920 Strange New World season one, and that is the best season of Star Wars 386 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,839 in decades. I gotta say decades. Anyway, moving away from all that 387 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,559 nerdy crap um, we can either do Yellow Jackets next, or we can 388 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:53,839 do schmigandon next, or we can do your obscure Spanish TV show that I 389 00:26:53,880 --> 00:27:00,640 know nothing about. Now I'm being mean, please. Anyway, I got 390 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,119 back and couldn't stop thinking about it. Got back from Spain. Yeah, 391 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400 I got back from Spain and and and port you going. Couldn't stop thinking 392 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,160 about the trip. And one I usually do is I look for shows so 393 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,039 that I can see the city again. Yeah, yeah, it's it's cute. 394 00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:15,240 So I was like looking for shows in Madrid and Spain, so I 395 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,680 could, you know, see the grun Via again and all the main avenues 396 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,200 and you know boroughs and all that. So and then I was watching all 397 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,359 this show and then Netflix suggested one that I hadn't seen before, called The 398 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,160 Girls at the Back, which is a weird name for a show, but 399 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:36,240 anyway, it's it's called Las Las de la mafila I meaning the one you 400 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,039 know, the one from the back. Anyway. Um, it's a mini 401 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:44,960 series about five friends and they travel every year together. They've been friends in 402 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,039 school and um, so this time they're traveling and they find out that one 403 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,440 of them has cancer. They don't say who until the end of the show. 404 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:56,119 Um, and then they come up with the idea of having I have 405 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,559 like a bucket list of everyone has to write on a piece of paper without 406 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:03,319 the other knowing who what they want to do, something they haven't done before 407 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,599 that it's sort of like daring and um they have to do it together. 408 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Um. So at first I was like, well, I don't know if 409 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,119 I want to watch this kind of a little depressing or whatever, and it's 410 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,680 not my thing. But you guys know me, always give it fifteen minutes. 411 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,880 So it started, and I just fall in love with the show. 412 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,680 It's they're so amazing. The actors are amazing. They're they're so friendly and 413 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:33,519 you know, so happy and linked as friends together and and they're just great. 414 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,160 It's a great show. They have. It's funny, they have funny 415 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880 situations. Um, they have fun. And they actually shot the whole thing 416 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:47,359 in Codige, which is this beautiful place in the south of Spain which has 417 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,680 beautiful beaches and gorgeous architecture. So it's beautiful to look at and the actors 418 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,799 are really good and it's actually very interesting. I like it seems like the 419 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,799 basic story. You know, friends and one has cancer and they all traveled 420 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,440 together, but they managed to do it in a way that it's it was 421 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:10,559 a little different and a little unique in a way how they presented the situations, 422 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:14,599 how they had to confront certain things. So I really enjoyed it. 423 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,200 I watched the whole thing in one night, I mean, which is very 424 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,920 fast. I was like, oh, it's it's done. So I highly 425 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,799 recommended this called The Girls at the Back in on Netflix. Um, so, 426 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,599 you know, give it a try. Just I loved it. I 427 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440 thought it was a great show. Absolutely, And now we're gonna get really 428 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,599 cranky about the next two shows, which are beloved and coming back for their 429 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:44,119 second seasons, and gotta say that neither season has set us on fire. 430 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Let's start with Shamika. Don how about that? Yes? Okay, So 431 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200 we absolutely adored Schmika. One of the best things ever. It was one 432 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000 of our favorite shows. I don't know did I come out in twenty twenty 433 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,759 two or twenty twenty one, but we it was the best, one of 434 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,160 the best shows of that whatever year it debuted and at the first season was 435 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:06,759 a pastiche of a bunch of classic musicals, mostly from the forties and the 436 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:11,640 fifties, largely from the Rogers and Hammerstein sort of school of musicals. The 437 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,200 cast was stacked to the rafters with a bunch of Broadway veterans of musical theater, 438 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:22,319 and it was just hilariously funny. I'm reading a lot of people since 439 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,079 the second season debut who are like, yeah, I tried to watch it, 440 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,640 but I it's not for me. So I understand if it's not. 441 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,480 If you don't get the references, if you don't think musical theater is worthy 442 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,880 of your attention or whatever, I get it. It's not for everyone. 443 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,839 So you really have to sort of love musical theater to love Schmega Dune. 444 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:48,079 The good thing about season one is that they were doing such classic takes on 445 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:52,279 things like, you know, Carousel and Oklahoma and the sounding music stuff that 446 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,960 every high school in America has done a version of these musicals, so they're 447 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,920 incredibly familiar, and they're easy to pass, you know, to parody and 448 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,599 pastiche and they it was broad in a way that was very easy to grasp. 449 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Second season now, listen, I think this is a brilliant ploy, 450 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,559 but so far I don't think it's working out. For them. Is that 451 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,400 they have advanced to musicals from the sixties and the seventies, and they are 452 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,559 making and they're we're talking like, um, uh Cabaret and Chicago, and 453 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,880 there's a little bit of hit. Well, there's actually quite a bit of 454 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,759 hair in there. Uh, there's some there's actually a little bit of Annie. 455 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:33,359 There's some Jesus Christ Superstar. There's um Company and the Fantastics and Pip 456 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,519 in all of that. Um, I'm sorry, Shirley McLean, no Sweet 457 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,960 Charity, thank you. So there's a little bits of all of that in 458 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,400 it. There's a lot of Fossy in the first two episodes. Uh. 459 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,680 And they're making the point that they're sort of giving a little history on a 460 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,599 lesson on the history of American musical theater, because they make the point right 461 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,400 from the get go that things took a much darker turn during this period of 462 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,480 American musical theater and the stories. It was less about plot and it was 463 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:04,559 more about vibes, and it was a lot darker. There was more sex, 464 00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,279 there was more murder, and all of this is true. Um. 465 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,680 I think they're having a difficult time parodying this material right. First off, 466 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:19,880 parodying anything Fossy has been so done, so done. I'm pretty sure they've 467 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160 done it on Marjarine commercials at this point, it's really hard to find something 468 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:29,279 fresh. And Dove Cameron did a take on My Hair and listen, she's 469 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,799 great. She gave it everything she had. But they never failure to launch 470 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,480 the song. It was called kaput, and I was like, yeah, 471 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,319 this isn't doing it for me, and not because it didn't sound like Liza 472 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,279 or anything. The song just right, this has been done. And I 473 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:49,960 think there's a major difference between parodying things. There are consudered perfect you know 474 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,559 what I mean, like very good. The music was from the forties and 475 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,799 they're perfect. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, they have a wonderful ending. 476 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Everything it's beautiful about out them. So it's it's fun to make fun 477 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,880 of those, uh and mock those, But when you get to appear where 478 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:13,799 it was more about being real and presenting life exactly or just like you know, 479 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 gruesome or is just very real people with real issues going through shit and 480 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,839 war. That was the war. There's a lot going on, So it's 481 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,240 different to make fun of that. Um because in a way these people when 482 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,279 they made these music was they were sort of like criticizing or they were criticizing 483 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:35,680 musicals. Yeah, it was a fatigue exactly of standards and musical and that 484 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,039 was the brilliance of and they acknowledge that in the beginning, they say, 485 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:44,160 oh, you know when they stumble again, uh into the whole, you 486 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,240 know, into Schmick. I'm like, oh, that's it. No, 487 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,000 I want the old you know, I want the funny, cute. Well 488 00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,799 that's exactly. Yeah. That's a good point is that the characters themselves, 489 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,720 they and Michael Kayan and Cecily Strong. Uh, they start off being like, 490 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,160 yeah, I don't want to be here. This is and and I'm 491 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,039 afraid that as a viewer I didn't quite get over that. Listen, I 492 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,039 love these musicals. I love Chicago Cabaret and all the St Jesus Christ, 493 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:14,079 Super Superstar, all of them. And I think there's there's value in I 494 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,360 think it's a bold choice. I think it's a creative choice to take this 495 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:22,519 concept to its next step. I've only seen the first two episodes. It's 496 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,880 just not charming me the way it did last season. Part of the problem 497 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,079 from me, I think is as much as I like King of Uncle kay 498 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:34,679 and Cecily Strong, I think we would have been better off with two new 499 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,000 people visiting schmickadoon instead of taking characters from last season and having them read it, 500 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,119 because we're dealing with their disappointment and disorientation the whole time. There are 501 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,840 the characters that we're supposed to relate to, and they are disappointed that they're 502 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,280 here and sort of confused about and I'm like, yeah, this is not 503 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,599 getting across right right. I was actually fine with the numbers, but when 504 00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,679 he got to the whole thing about like the murder, the murder mystery or 505 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,199 whatever thing, I was like, all right, that'shit. They lost me 506 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,159 here because it's just very plain and just boring. I'm not interested. It's 507 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,519 not making me laugh. No, it's not the only thing that really made 508 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:15,960 me laugh. And she's Jan Garkowski, Like Jesus Christ, she and I 509 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,119 turned to her. I was like, she really knows what to do with 510 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,199 this material because she has a musical theater background. But she also is a 511 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:29,079 brilliant comedian right and has done a lot of comic television work, So she's 512 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,800 she is really her and Cecily strong Um I think are the two MVPs do? 513 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,000 They are both a joy to watch in all of their scenes. Everyone 514 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:43,280 else it's just it's not clicking. I think Dov Cameron is great, but 515 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,519 I don't know that she's the best choice for us Sally Bowls, No, 516 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,800 she's I felt that she was trying too hard. She was trying too hard, 517 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,920 and also I was disappointed with are you the bo who? Amazing? 518 00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:59,239 Yeah, they cast her as the MC. Yeah in Cabaret, Well take 519 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,880 on the MC, and that's fun, you know, fun to do it. 520 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,239 Just think it worked. I didn't think it worked. And the weird 521 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,360 thing about her her character was that, unlike most of the rest of them, 522 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,559 she was like repeating almost word for words some of the lines from the 523 00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,039 MC. And I was like, well, it just didn't work. Yeah, 524 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,400 it just didn't work. Um, I didn't land. Yeah. I 525 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,119 did think Cecily Strong's audition scene was really funny. Um, And like I 526 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,519 said, Jan Krakowski's number is really funny. I still think it's funny the 527 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,880 way they make fun of the whole Uh yeah, um, you know, 528 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,440 Titus Progess is not working for me at oh. I mean, yeah, 529 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,119 it's a little too precious there. It feels like they're trying too hard in 530 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,639 a way. Uh, it wasn't as fun as natural as the first season. 531 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:49,239 Here's my thing. If they had just introduced two new characters who wander 532 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,880 into Schechicago and and and did largely the same story, I think it would 533 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,639 have benefited from it a lot because, and maybe this is just me, 534 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,360 but the they're using all the same actors from last season except their cast, 535 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,679 you know, the musical theater. They're all casting new roles, and Cecily 536 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,559 Strong and Keegan Michael Key keep commenting on it, and they commented on who 537 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,480 they played the previous season, So that just leaves you I can't help but 538 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,920 be like, Okay, so what what what are they like? Are they 539 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,599 ghosts? Are they are? What it's happening? Here? Are they? 540 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,039 You know? And you're starting to to set up something that needs to be 541 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,719 explained, or the lack of the explanation is starting to hang over the whole 542 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,280 thing. And if you had just done another season with new characters and not 543 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,679 tried to have them comment on the ones instead of it does instead of focusing 544 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,519 on what's going on, You're like, you still thinking they keep telling you 545 00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,280 who they this person played the previous season, and they're actually naming the car 546 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,159 and I'm like, okay, yeah, I know that that's not working for 547 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,719 me. Not none of this love the cast. I do think Keegan Michael 548 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,559 Gee is not great. Uh he keeps one of the thing and it's actually 549 00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,679 got It got annoying in the second episode when he was in the jail cell 550 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,280 with aaront fight, who was actually really funny. Um, he keeps reacting 551 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960 to everything like he doesn't know what's going on and he's never seen any Like 552 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,480 where's this music coming from? Why are you acting this way? You came 553 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:17,559 back to because you know how it works. Yeah, that's what makes cecily 554 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:23,320 strong performance because everything she says it's very knowing. She knows exactly exactly how 555 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,760 it works in this world, so she's not overreacting. I just don't like 556 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,840 his take on the character. I feel like I'm being mean because this is 557 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,760 such a beloved show. But I I and it's only two episodes in. 558 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,280 It could absolutely turn things around. Um, but I it really didn't grab 559 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,719 me in the first two episodes. I actually found them a little difficult to 560 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,199 sit through. There's a difference between like, oh my god, the second 561 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,079 season, I can't can't stop watching it. Then Okay, I love this 562 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,760 show so much, I have to give it a try. I have to 563 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,000 stay here and watch this. That's sort of how I feel. Um um, 564 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:58,280 yeah, that's how I felt like I would. I had an obligation 565 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,880 to watch it, which I don't like. Yeah, which is and like 566 00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:06,599 they could turn it around. But that's it's sort of it's a huge disappointment 567 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,840 that that I'm feeling that way about suing right out of the gate. We'll 568 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,599 see. It could be that the material is inherently difficult to parody in the 569 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,280 same way as sort of the Rogers and Hammerstein stuff. Or it could be 570 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,800 that that material has already been over parodied so much that they're not finding anything 571 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,960 fresh. But something about it or the whole entire thing about it just isn't 572 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,800 working for me. Sorry, And now we have to move on to the 573 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,840 second point that's going to piss everyone off because everyone loves Yellow Jackets, and 574 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,519 I don't have a lot of criticism of Yellow Jackets yet, but I will 575 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:46,599 say that the first the third episode dropped this morning, but I haven't watched 576 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,480 it, and this is part of the reason why we haven't done recaps. 577 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000 It kind of sucks. I hate when they do this. First off, 578 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000 the first episode dropped while we were in Europe, and I just there was 579 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,519 no way. I couldn't even get to a screen or and I didn't have 580 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:04,719 the time. Takes hours to write a recab and all. But I was 581 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,360 on a much needed vacation and then I thought we I would get caught up 582 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,280 when we got back. But they Showtime is doing this thing where the episode 583 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,559 airs on Showtime on Sunday night, but they're dropping it on their streaming service 584 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,599 at like first thing Friday morning. When when do you put the recap at 585 00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:24,320 right? You know, and at this And I'm already behind that. So 586 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,280 again, um, much like Star Trek McCard, I'll probably do an end 587 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,480 of the season recab when Yellow Jackets is all done. But uh, And 588 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,440 enjoyed the first two episodes, but I'm not on fire like I was last 589 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,280 season. Do you agree? Disagree? Um? I yeah, I love 590 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,239 the first season for for it's boldness. It was so breez, mainly Melanie 591 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,000 Lynsky because I absolutely love her, and Jets and Christina Rechi. Yeah, 592 00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:59,719 yeah, I'm gonna name all of them. They're all great and I love 593 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,760 their characters. Uh. And this time, um, I'm still adjusting to 594 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400 the whole thing. Because it's very much focused on on their time there when 595 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,960 they're young. And I don't think the actors are that great. Um. 596 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,119 See we disagree on this, but yeah, so I I don't know. 597 00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:21,360 I was more interested in their lives as adults, but it is not. 598 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,760 It's a little boring now because it's it feels like they told everything they need 599 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,159 to be told in the first season about the adults and then they're just sort 600 00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:34,280 of like, you know, killing time now and then spending more time with 601 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,519 the young guys. I enjoy it, but I we we did get to 602 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,119 I don't know, it feels a little. I mentioned it to you that, 603 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,440 Um, it feels to me, um and I never say this, 604 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:49,519 but it feels to me that it geared towards a very much younger audience to 605 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:54,400 this season. Um, especially with the young people. Um and uh, 606 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,239 you know, the actors and the characters. I don't know, it feels 607 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,639 that way the whole thing. I mean, we were we all knew that 608 00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,559 we're going to end up eating somebody at some point. I'm not giving anything 609 00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:07,719 away, And when you finally got to that, I felt it felt very 610 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,119 performative. To me. It felt very vampire, you know. Like like 611 00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:15,800 the Vampire movie. It's just very showy. I didn't like it at all. 612 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,039 I was turned off by it. Actually, it felt very TikTok to 613 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,880 me, like Okay, we're gonna put up a show here instead of like 614 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,000 do it in a more organic way. I just didn't like the whole thing. 615 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,400 So but I'll keep watching there it's you know, I'll keep watching. 616 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:37,239 I'll keep watching it, Okay, I have I don't disagree with most of 617 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,440 that, but I do have a different take on what part works for me. 618 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:44,400 I think the stuff with the younger versions of the characters is more interesting 619 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,960 the stuff that's happening with their middle aged selves in the present day. I 620 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000 believe it was the Review and Variety. I don't know which one made the 621 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:57,559 comparison, but a lot of it's getting very Desperate Housewife, especially the whole 622 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,360 murder thing with Shanna and her husband covering up the murder, are and their 623 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,400 teenage daughter trying not to, you know, to discover the murder. And 624 00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:08,639 I don't love that storyline. I know that it's a continuation of last season 625 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,280 storyline. I actually didn't mind it last season, but I didn't realize they 626 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,880 were going to spend like this is going to hang over the characters for a 627 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,519 really long time, which, of course, it's a murder, it probably 628 00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:25,639 should. I I love Christina Rache's character, I love Juliet Lewis's character, 629 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:34,000 and I m I actually think their adult stories are more interesting than what I 630 00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,400 love Melanie Lynsky. But I'm not loving this this storyline. I'm really not 631 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,519 this this sort of covering up my lover the murder, you know, the 632 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:44,400 murder of my lover, and trying to keep my teenage daughter from finding out. 633 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,079 It's very Yeah, it doesn't have quite the edge that the show seemed 634 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,639 to have last year. I think Tawny Cypress has Taisa. I think that's 635 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,480 Tie. I know that color Tie. I think it's Taysa. I actually 636 00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,039 do like her storyline as well. It's getting incredibly dark. But the thing 637 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:07,800 is, I hope they pull this off because I suspect the viewership isn't ready 638 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,840 for that Walter White breaking bad moment where they realize that the people that they're 639 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,000 kind of rooting for are really awful people. Melanie Lynskey's character is objectively a 640 00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:22,079 terrible person. She's murderous, she lies, she's you know, it's just 641 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,039 that she's Melanie Lynskey. And it's the same thing with Ty, where you 642 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,639 know, she's fabulous, she's glamorous, she's you know, she's an LGBTQ 643 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,880 senator, blah blah blah, but she's objectively a horrible she'd be head of 644 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,679 the dog for Fox's sake. And they're they're you know, dancing around you 645 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,239 know, trauma and mental health and all of that is true. Obviously these 646 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,800 women are all suffering from tremendous trauma, but some of them are really bad 647 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:50,000 people. And I think the show is, if they pull it off, 648 00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,039 that will be great where they will have to have this moment where the viewership 649 00:44:53,159 --> 00:45:02,280 understands that you can love Melanie Lynskey but understand what she's not good, and 650 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,400 it's there. It's an interesting balancing act that they're doing, because I do 651 00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:10,840 think they turned a corner with the cannibalism scene, where well, first off, 652 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,119 it was always hinted at but never entirely spelled out, so there was 653 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:21,039 a deniability fact like maybe they didn't eat someone, um, but they went 654 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:22,679 all in on that scene, and I get what you're saying. I didn't 655 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:29,280 love the whole fantasy aspect of it. But um, I do think that 656 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,639 these are traumatized teenage girls who have a sense of the dramatic, and that 657 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,280 is how some of them would justify it to themselves. And I think that 658 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,079 that scene is of course meant to be disturbing because they were eating a person 659 00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:49,199 on camera, but it was weird. I think the whole way they got 660 00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:52,840 to the point where you know, they they tried to cremate Jackie, but 661 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,159 then nature turned it into an oven and accidentally cooked her and then they couldn't 662 00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,360 resist. That was a little bit more much for me, Like that was 663 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:07,599 just a little I actually was more shocked in the previous episode where Shauna popped 664 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,920 Jackie's ear into her mouth and he hated, Like that was more That's what 665 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,800 I mean. That had more edge to it. Yeah, that that feels 666 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,039 more natural and a way was more disturbing than this thing where they're all dressed 667 00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:22,679 up. Like I do want to say, we are middle aged men, 668 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,440 and that was the perspective of teenage girl. Only get to say that once 669 00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:35,280 or twice a week. People have seen the pictures sweetie anyway, Um, 670 00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,320 but yeah, this is a teenage girl perspective, and I'm not going to 671 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,199 criticize that it wasn't for me, but I do understand it, and I 672 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,800 do think the show was doing a really really good job of unpacking two things 673 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:55,639 um teenage female teenage um aggression and rage and how it plays out socially, 674 00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,119 and because these aren't stories that we tell, you know, teenage girls and 675 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,360 really fuck each other up when they set their hearts to it, and if 676 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,079 you put them in a situation like that, it's really interesting to explore because 677 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:12,679 a lot of that. I don't think it's it's a coincidence that the first 678 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,360 girl that they ate was the most popular girl, because in that sort of 679 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:23,599 social milieu that those figures are both loved and hated with inequal measure, everyone 680 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:28,719 wants to be them, everyone wants to kill them. And I think that's 681 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,920 very much unpacking like teenage girls, social norms and everything, of course taken 682 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,239 to an extreme. The point is that all barriers, social barriers that have 683 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,159 been broken down. There's no adults to stop them from doing this sort of 684 00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:45,119 stuff, and they are of course starving and you know, possibly hallucinating about 685 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:49,800 weird things in the woods. I am still enjoying the Girls in the Woods 686 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,239 I'm still intrigued. There's a lot of mystery there about what the hell is 687 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:59,239 going on. You still don't know if there is Is there something supernatural going 688 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,800 on? Or are these girls just all completely delusional and starving? And I 689 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,920 do think that's interesting to unpack, which is why the covering up my lover's 690 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,440 murder story. It just doesn't interest me. It just doesn't. We'll see. 691 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,039 I hope that having this out of the way done, the whole eating 692 00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,920 her thing, maybe we'll see. Maybe. Oh, there are more people 693 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,079 to be eaten. The gay coach apparently never came home. And of course, 694 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,639 where Shawan is baby? Oh, dear god, where Shan is baby? 695 00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:31,000 Okay? Um that we should also note that m Simone Castle came in 696 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,599 as well. I can't remember what the character's name is. She came in 697 00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,639 as the adult version of her. Uh now I have to look her up, 698 00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:45,320 you talk. I don't have anything to Okay, she came in. 699 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,360 I can't remember the character's name, but she came in. Well, the 700 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:51,400 antler girl, the one who's thought all the um. That's the other thing 701 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,079 is that they started introducing more of the background girls the team, because they 702 00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:58,599 only focused on a few last season, and more and more of them are 703 00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,599 showing up in the scenes. I'm assuming because they're going to eventually be eaten 704 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,000 or killed or whatever, or maybe they're we're going to be introduced to adult 705 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,599 versions of them. I still think the hook is great. I'm definitely watching 706 00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:13,559 for the rest of the season. I'm not disappointed in the way I was 707 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,639 with Schmeiga Dune. I still think it's there. It's there's still a lot 708 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:20,880 of joy in watching Melanie Lyndski, Christina Ricci, all of these, you 709 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,840 know, Juliet Lewis, all of them. Like I said, Simone Castle 710 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,559 is really really good. Um. And I think the team girls you were 711 00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,039 saying, how about Ella Purnell is just she is amazing. Well she's gone 712 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,559 now, but no, it's a shame because she is really really good. 713 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,239 Um. And I think almost all the team they're none of the actresses are 714 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,239 teenagers, but they're playing teenagers. All the team girls are are good. 715 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,280 Um. I just yeah, I want to see where. I feel like 716 00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:51,159 we said this last season when we when we and we talked about the show 717 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,119 on the podcast, and the creators came out and said they had a five 718 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,960 season plan, and we were both like, Wow, you don't remember this. 719 00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,119 We were both like, oh okay, because a five season play and 720 00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:06,440 implies like this extended mythology lost puzzle Box show for I don't know that. 721 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:13,280 I want that. I wanted teen trauma and middle aged PTSD. Yeah, 722 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,039 we'll see. There's still a lot to unpack. They've already gotten to the 723 00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:20,079 eating people, a long camera stuff, so what else is there after this? 724 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,000 But we'll see. Like I said, the one thing I'm holding out 725 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:25,239 for is that they have this, they pull off this moment where the audience 726 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,639 realizes these are not redeemable characters. These are all pretty bad people. Trauma 727 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,920 or no, they're bad people. Um, we'll see, because that to 728 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,119 me would be the interesting way to take it. It's too interesting. I'll 729 00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:42,960 watch it. But it's great casts. It's such a ya. They're great 730 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,679 and the music, the music is amazing so good. Yeah, it's just 731 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,000 great, great everything everything, it's it's well done. It's well done. 732 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,119 Um so I just it hasn't Lottie Simone Kessel plays Lotty. She's the antler 733 00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:59,559 girl. I just saw it on IMDb. I was scrolling and talking at 734 00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,000 the same time because I can multitask anyway. Good for you, I know. 735 00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:07,519 So that's her thoughts. We'll return to almost all of these shows at 736 00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:09,239 some point, either on the podcast or on our site before they wrap up 737 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,760 their seasons or when they wrap up their seasons. So until then and until 738 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,639 we come back next week, we'd love to hear what you want to think 739 00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,719 about all of these shows that we've talked about, and we want y'all to 740 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,719 take care of yourselves and love you mean it. Bye bye bye