WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:10.000 The two volume book and here's what it looks like. You've seen this before 2 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:17.320 and different colors, but it has sold as a collected set and you find 3 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:23.679 this at Civil Defense manual dot com. Excellent set of books that covers everything 4 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:30.640 in terms of power, food, medical preparedness, as well as defending your 5 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.560 area and what you can do in working as a community with other people. 6 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.560 Very important to have this. He's got a lot of experience doing this. 7 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:49.960 He's retired military and he has seen action in Zimbabwe and when it was Rhodesia. 8 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:55.399 And he has a lot of chapters that are written by special ops specialist 9 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.399 in their particular area, whether it is about power, communication. We've talked 10 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.760 to him in the past about some of these some of these aspects of it. 11 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:11.560 You can go to the website Civil Defensemanual dot com and you can see 12 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.879 the chapter that he has on water, for example, which is very important. 13 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.519 That is the most important thing. But he also has a couple of 14 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:23.719 others there. We've talked about nuclear preparedness and the risk that people have. 15 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.239 He's got experience with that in the military, and so you can see that 16 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.439 chapter as well for free. I think if you see those chapters you're going 17 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.079 to realize how in depth this is and it is. He only puts it 18 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.920 out as a he doesn't have an electronic version of it. He only has 19 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.959 it in print. Because what happens when the power goes down, and you're 20 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.120 really going to need this because when the power goes down, we're going to 21 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.359 very rapidly descend into anarchy. As I said the other day, if you 22 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:56.920 have some kind of a cyber attack or EMP, it is going to only 23 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.959 take a couple of days before everybody starts trying to cannibalize what other people have 24 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:07.080 and it's going to descend into chaos very rapidly. So joining us now is 25 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.960 a Jack Lawson always great to have you on, Jack, thanks for joining 26 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:14.080 us. Yes, David, can you hear me? Yeah? Got you 27 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:19.639 sound good? Good and clear? Good. I never trust my technical capability 28 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.520 when it comes to this type of thing, but it's always good to be 29 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:24.800 in your show, David, and good hear you way well, it's good 30 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.120 to hear your voice. And of course you're doing this a little bit differently 31 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.319 than you have in the past, because in the past we've always done it 32 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:31.599 by phone, and so it's a little bit better connection. But we had 33 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:35.919 a little bit of you know, since it's the first time doing this. 34 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.199 You know, I've been talking last the last couple of days. I mentioned 35 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:44.360 when they were talking about cybersecurity and the grid and the vulnerability of the grid. 36 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.240 I said, you know, I've talked in the past to Jack Lawson 37 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.400 about EMP. We talked about how easy that would be. But I think 38 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:57.159 it's even easier if you've got somebody that is going to take down the grid 39 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.560 with a cyber attack. We've seen that done over and over again, usually 40 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.919 by just taking down They shut down the Colonial pipeline by doing putting a ransomware 41 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.080 attack on their accounting system and they got them to shut everything down. I 42 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:16.360 believe that all the traffic was grounded. Earlier this year when there was a 43 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.000 the no TAM system went out. I think that that was a hack. 44 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.520 They won't admit that it was a hack, but it was out for about 45 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.680 twelve hours and they shut all traffic down to an extent that hadn't done since 46 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.919 nine to eleven. And then as soon as that was finished in the United 47 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:32.000 States, the no TAM system went down in Canada. So it's obviously not 48 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:37.240 some kind of a local iceed failure, and that one came back faster, 49 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.560 only about an hour and a half. But again, when you look at 50 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:44.319 that type of thing, it's very easy for somebody to do it for ransomware, 51 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.560 it's easy for a hostile for nation to do it, and it's even 52 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.879 easy for our own government to do it as a false flag attack. So 53 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:55.520 if we lose the power grid over something like that, why does this play 54 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.840 out in terms of how long does it take for every thing really to send 55 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.199 into anarchy and what do you do about it? I really believe it would 56 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:12.280 not take very long. Number One, you said a word that always strikes 57 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:20.560 me earlier, you said the word cannibalized other people's possessions. I think that 58 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:30.160 we are so borderline with our supply system that actual word of people eating other 59 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:36.040 people, as grotesque as that may sound, is very probable. I have 60 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:41.000 through writing this book, I've met a lot of very important people, very 61 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.680 knowledgeable people, more than important, and along with this, almost every one 62 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:53.040 of them says zero to ninety days of we cannibalism in this country. That's 63 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:58.639 a concept that's hard for people to understand. It's repulsive to me. That's 64 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.480 where I draw a line this when you step over that, you're no longer 65 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:06.480 a member of the human race as far as I'm concerned. But let's go 66 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:14.959 back to one thing you talk about. EMP. Electromagnetic pulse event is usually 67 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:21.680 a generated by nuclear weapon that's set way up in the atmosphere. It's set 68 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:28.839 off an area of the planet, and through that pulse that's sent out from 69 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:34.800 that destroys electronics. Any semiconductor, any type of transistor, semiconductor would be 70 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:44.399 ruined. I don't see that as probable as I do see what doctor Eric 71 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:49.759 Whedell, a friend of mine who owns a company called Amarus, and he 72 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:55.319 deals specifically, He's been doing his entire life. He's written a book about 73 00:05:55.360 --> 00:06:01.639 it. He deals specifically with grid down situations and redundancy and backup. And 74 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:09.720 his belief is this that there's a very very strong probability along with all of 75 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.680 we don't know who is in this country. It just astounds me to see 76 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:20.000 forty fifty people standing in a line that are Chinese and they're all military aged 77 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:25.279 people. Yeah, no women, no children, no protection at all. 78 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.639 And that's the amazing thing. You know, we look at this debate that 79 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.160 I was talking about earlier in the Congress and it's like, well, we're 80 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.879 not going to give you any money for Ukraine unless you fix the border. 81 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.759 You know, we really literally have an invasion, as you pointed out, 82 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:42.759 a lot of military aged people coming from China and everywhere on Earth. And 83 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.519 of course they don't have to do something like this very provocative like exploding an 84 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:51.360 MP which they could easily trace that back to whichever country that had fired that 85 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:56.439 and annihilate it. But they could easily go in and sabotage, and we 86 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:00.399 see that as a real possibility. And of course the other part of this 87 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.199 is that we have this slow system of sabotage that is being put out by 88 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:10.279 our own government in the name of climate, where they are putting everybody on 89 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:13.800 getting rid of anything that is not electric, all the cars, all the 90 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:15.879 appliances, everything must be electric. And then they're shutting the grid down at 91 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.399 the same time, so they're gradually killing it. That's why I say, 92 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.839 at some point in time, I wouldn't be surprised that they just pulled an 93 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:26.959 event and pulled the whole thing down. But there's also the people who are 94 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.839 coming in a should point out that David, I believe this. I believe 95 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:40.920 that there has been. There's been a couple of events where transformers at power 96 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:47.639 generation stations have had hole shot in the bottom of them with it doesn't take 97 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:56.800 much, but the AKM round seven six two thirty nine. Most of the 98 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:03.000 military production that has a steel core in it that will go through the steel 99 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:09.040 of a transformer that is filled with oil that is used to jump the electric 100 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:16.720 power voltage up to where it allows it to be transmitted for a number of 101 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.040 miles before it's done again. I think that we've had derailments. I think 102 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:28.279 that the federal government is hiding this from us. They're definitely afraid that somebody's 103 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.560 going to get in, shut the border down, gather these people up and 104 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.960 send them back to where they came. It astounds me. I lived in 105 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:43.440 a country where there was infrastructure damage like this, formerly called Rhodesia now Zimbabwe. 106 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.639 During the time I was there, there were attacks on the fuel tank 107 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:56.919 farms that were devastating. It took every fire truck in Rhodesia, and the 108 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:03.960 South Africans send hundreds of trucks up just to contain this fire. That that 109 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:11.879 entire instant was the result of two terrorists with an RPG rocket launcher, hijacking 110 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.879 a taxi, standing on top of it and firing a rocket into the fuel 111 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.519 tank five hundred thousand gallons of aviation fuel. It took ten days to put 112 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.840 out. Wow, it was in danger of setting their entire rest of the 113 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:31.919 tank from up. There is so much infrastructure that could be damaged with simple, 114 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.720 simple methods. You don't need a rocket launcher. You can design. 115 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.879 There's all kinds of things that can be done. And I think that this 116 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.320 has been going on for some time. Well and when you look at okay, 117 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.639 so that's a fuel depot, you hit that, it blows up to 118 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.919 your point. It takes ten days to put that one out and could have 119 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.039 set everything off. But we also look at, you know, as they're 120 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.039 going to renewables, you know around here in this area. We got the 121 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.240 TVA, the Tennessee Valley Authority, and they are mandating and scentivizing and paying 122 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.799 for people to put in what they call battery energy storage sites. And that 123 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:13.440 is a massive lithium battery site. And that is a gigantic fire waiting to 124 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.120 happen. It could even happen on its own. We've already had one of 125 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.480 them that was set up in Australia that Tesla put in there. They're mega 126 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.039 battery thing that caught on fire. But if you were to sabotage that, 127 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.240 they'd be pretty easy to sabotage as well, because we know that we've had 128 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.080 electric cars that have run over something on the road and it penetrated the battery 129 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.200 and it caused the whole thing to combust very quickly. And so if you 130 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.679 were starting to shoot those things, you know, deliberately trying to destroy them, 131 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.440 they'd be pretty easy to destroy too, just like a big fuel depot. 132 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:48.399 Absolutely, the guy that wrote the underground shelter portion of the Civil Defense 133 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:56.159 Manual, he is probably one of the best exports on underground shelters. He 134 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.480 refuses to put a lithium battery in. He said, they are fire waiting 135 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:05.000 to happen. Yes, now, there's all kinds of dangers, but there's 136 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:11.039 no point in paying to increase your danger level, you know, as and 137 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:16.240 I'm not putting must down, and I was saying, I think the lithium 138 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:20.200 battery at this point is probably one of the most efficient. It is kind 139 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.360 of like a hand grenade. Though, if you it's one of the best 140 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:28.200 batteries to give you a slow power charge as you needed, but if you 141 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.320 shorten the terminals together, it's like pulling the pin in the hand grenade. 142 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.240 It doesn't it doesn't like that surge of power. I remember a few years 143 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.879 ago when the Samsung came out with a phone that had a lot of these 144 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:45.159 issues, and you know, they were catching fire and injuring people. Fable 145 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.879 fold, Yeah, exactly, And so what have we done. We've gone 146 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:52.039 from the phone to the to the electric scooters in New York and they've had 147 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.559 a lot of They've had a massive number of fires up there, a lot 148 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.360 of people that have died from that as well, because they would park these 149 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.440 these electric scooters in the lobby of the building in New York and start charging 150 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.519 him, and they would they would burn up that way. So we go 151 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:09.080 from the car, from the cell phone to a laptop, to a scooter, 152 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.759 to a car to a bus. We've had buses that spontaneously combusted in 153 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.000 Europe in many cases. In Munich, I think it was Munich or Stute 154 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.720 Guard, but I think it was Munich. We're burned down an entire station 155 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:24.080 of these things. And in France they had him spontaneously combusting and and you 156 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:26.799 know, and took him off the market, and Canada they went back and 157 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.159 changed them back to diesel, so, you know, but that's a that's 158 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.039 a bus. And so then from there they want to go to a semi 159 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.480 trailer, and then from a semi trailer they want to go to a backup 160 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.360 energy system for the grid. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger, and 161 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:46.759 yet they still have that flammability issue. So that is something that is that 162 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:48.919 people. Well, let me ask you this. When he says he's not 163 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.879 going to use he's underground storage and things like, he said, I'm not 164 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.960 going to use a lithium battery. What does he use for story? He 165 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:01.919 does. He uses a simple lead acid forkliff battery. They're they're one third 166 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:09.000 the price of a Tesla firewall. And there's some issues with him because batteries 167 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.240 when they regenerate cause hydrogen emissions. So you have a flammability issue, but 168 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.840 that is way overrated. If you have some venting, you don't really have 169 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.840 a problem with it. But he just refuses to deal with the litium batteries. 170 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:28.840 He's built seventeen million dollar shelters and he's had arguments with some of these 171 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:35.519 tech people that the one that he built was a he won't tell me who, 172 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.639 and I can't ask him, but it was somebody fairly well known, 173 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:45.000 and they ended up going around him and putting in what he told them not 174 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.200 to put in. I don't know if they've had any problems or not from 175 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.879 that, but their capability to generate power. They had a I don't know 176 00:13:52.879 --> 00:14:00.000 how many horsepower caterpillar tractor, a diesel generator, but they had enough few 177 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.960 to last him for forty eight hours. So he said, when this was 178 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:09.159 done, where's your where's your field truck gonna come from? And you know, 179 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.559 they don't think that stuff through, and uh, you know, he 180 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.159 was pretty disgusted. Kind of they paid him, he built a big complex 181 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:24.279 for him, but he, uh, he just gets very disgusted with some 182 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.039 of these people. Some of these people's egos, they're a legend in their 183 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.960 own mind. You know, they think they're God themselves. You know, 184 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.039 so you know, pretty hard to talk to those people. But they did, 185 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.879 they did do a lot of things that he told them to do. 186 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:46.279 But but going back to this EMP thing, I think we're kind of in 187 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.080 a state of limbo. Everybody thought World War three was going to start, 188 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.480 I personally believed that most of the Arab States would like to see Hamas. 189 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.039 I don't want to get into politics, but I I think they want to 190 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:07.240 see them eradicated. They're they're kind of they're kind of the orphan child. 191 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:15.120 Nobody wants them. I find it amazing that there was three point five billion 192 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:20.679 dollars in oil and natural gas that was discovered in nineteen ninety nine by British 193 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:28.120 Petroleum in the Gaza Strip, and I think that's one coincidental issue for them 194 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.840 going in there and taking over. They will not let so Hamas just didn't 195 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.600 dig their tunnels deep enough, right, Yeah, really, strike oil. 196 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.120 We're going to have them flooded with seawater now. But yeah, so what 197 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.639 with the hoodies. They're the ones who are shooting drones that shipping lanes and 198 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.240 that type of thing, and possibly some of the American ships there. But 199 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.759 you know, the so far, the American I think is an Aegus class 200 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:58.559 destroyer has taken out a bunch of those. But other than that, as 201 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:06.279 you point out, there's not real any coordinated movement by any other groups outside 202 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.559 of Hamas except for the hoodies who are shooting stuff at people. Yeah, 203 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:15.679 I think they're keeping this somewhat under control. As far as the expansion of 204 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:21.039 it. I don't think the Saudi Arabians or the Turks want to go to 205 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:25.639 war over this. But this death hole. I mean, you talk about 206 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:34.639 fifteen hundred Israelis that were killed by Hamas on October seventh or thereabouts. Quite 207 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:40.879 a number of them were killed by their own apache attack helicopters. They were 208 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.440 shooting anything that was moving on the ground. But now there's something like fifteen 209 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:52.200 to sixteen thousand Gaussians have been killed, up to a third of them children. 210 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.919 I think this is rattling a lot of cages. So I don't think 211 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.720 it takes much to set things up. But it seems like we're kind of 212 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.359 in. Everybody was looking at all, we're going to have World War three. 213 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:08.640 Well, you had some you know, some rockets that were shot by 214 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:12.319 hesbo Law and people were saying, well, you know, maybe Hesbola, 215 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.519 maybe Lebanon, maybe Iran is going to do something. But so far then 216 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.880 has been except for right at the very beginning, it's been kind of quiet. 217 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.960 Well, I laugh at I've seen a lot of explosions, and I've 218 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:29.079 seen the aftermath of a lot of explosions and five hundred people being killed by 219 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:37.759 one rocket that was not a hesbola rocket to take a building down, and 220 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.359 most of them are probably masonry or concrete. They're heavy. They're not a 221 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.279 wooden structure that the sides will blow out of easily. That absorbs a lot 222 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:51.079 of the blast and directs it upward. To have five hundred people killed makes 223 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.359 me question where that explosive device came from. And the longest shortest the thing 224 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:02.039 is, I think this is controlled. But if we get into a situation 225 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:07.200 which it could escalate into a World War iie situation you well see in m 226 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.559 EMP. But before that, I think what we we'll see in the next 227 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:17.319 couple of years, we're going to start seeing grid outages and whether we're told 228 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.319 the truth of where they're coming from or not. What was it the med 229 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:30.759 the one in California. They proved that there were two trained marksmen and one 230 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:37.680 spotter. That's usually the makeup of a tactical swat team's sniper unit or a 231 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:44.119 military sniper unit. You've either got one spotterer and one rifleman, or you 232 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:49.000 can have a couple of riflemen. But they systematically shot holes in the bottom. 233 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:53.799 I think it was a test run. Matt Bracken comes out and says 234 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.799 that. He says it was a test run. And there's a funny department 235 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:03.440 Homeland Defense investigated this, but they don't say much, so you know, 236 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.160 it's like everything else, they don't say. It must be classified. Yeah, 237 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.680 yeah, we're not allowed to know that. And of course, you 238 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.319 know they would look bad if they were not protecting our border, but of 239 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.400 course everybody understands that they're not doing that. I think you're right, and 240 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.559 I think, you know, even if we don't have so, you know, 241 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:23.960 you look at Ukraine that is failing miserably. Things have not even though 242 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:30.640 they're escalating somewhat in China, even if we don't have a full out war 243 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.240 with China or something like that. As you point out, these groups that 244 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:38.599 are coming in could be engaging in constant harassment, sabotage or something like that 245 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.839 just to push back against the United States. You don't necessarily have to have 246 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:47.880 a full on war for them to start messing with the grid. No, 247 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.519 it doesn't take much of anything, and I think that's what we're going to 248 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:56.319 see. The explanation will probably be infrastructure failure. But I think what it's 249 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:03.240 going to be a sabotage. I think they're it's impossible that there are not 250 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:10.720 military intelligence in this country along with all of these able bodied people. I 251 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:17.079 think they're military. I think they're the Chinese form of their CIA and FBI. 252 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:21.920 I'm sure they've got people in here and they know where things are and 253 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:26.559 they know how to damage it and it wouldn't take much. Yeah, oh 254 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.240 yeah, I agree. So you know we talked about that, you've got 255 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:34.759 two different volumes here, and you've got all together between the two, you've 256 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:40.839 got forty four different chapters, and so it's extensive amount of information. As 257 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:42.359 said before, somebody wants to see what is typical of it, they can 258 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:47.440 go to your site, Civil Defensemanual dot com and they can see a free 259 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:55.359 chapter there on both water as well as nuclear threats and how to prepare for 260 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.680 those two types of things. But in each one of these volumes you have 261 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:04.720 an extensive list as well in the back in terms of talking about food requirements 262 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:10.920 for people, different ways that you can use, different things that you can 263 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:17.279 use to protect from gunshots and that type of thing in terms of body armor, 264 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.160 but also the types of penetration that we're just talking about and what you 265 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.000 can do to shield against that. But it's just a wealth of information that 266 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:27.400 you've got there. Talk to us a little bit about in medical things like 267 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:32.119 dental care. You know, what do you do with dental care when everything 268 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:37.519 has been shut down? Give us a pick a topic and give us some 269 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:45.200 idea of something that we can prepare for today. I go back to my 270 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.440 prime directive. My prime directive is this store food and water. I know 271 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:56.000 you always advocated at David. I cannot emphasize enough. I guess I feel 272 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:02.240 like an insurance salesman. I'm trying to get people to ensure their survival and 273 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:07.839 that of their children. I pound on my family about this all the time. 274 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.599 I'm after them all the time on it. I spent a lot of 275 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:18.000 money preparing them, and generally I think they're probably pretty much in the preparation 276 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.440 stage to where they could last for a while. But I think people have 277 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.759 got to have at least ten days of water and three weeks of food. 278 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:33.000 More water if you can, but also life sustaining medicines. I mean, 279 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.279 I'm going back to what I feel like. I sometimes feel like I'm a 280 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.519 farmer, that's been plowing, killed a horse and I've beat them to get 281 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.599 up to pull of blows more. You know, I feel like this is 282 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:52.319 something that people cannot really fathom. We live in such an abundant society here. 283 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:59.119 I've been through not eating. I've been through, on top of not 284 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:03.079 having water, doing a fourth March for two days in deep dark Africa, 285 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:08.000 and I know what it's like to become just about going out of your mind 286 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:15.720 from first and people have to look at one of the most critical things. 287 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.680 You turn a tap on and water comes out, and it's pottable water. 288 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.759 It's drinkable, it's safe to drink generally speaking. But people need to do 289 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:30.559 this there. I have all kinds of things in this book, and I 290 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.400 put some of this on a website free because I want to like the water 291 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.279 treatment, I want people to be able to get that. Now. If 292 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:44.079 they don't have my book, go to my website, Civil Defensemanual dot com, 293 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:49.519 read the blogs and read the sample chapters I have there. I mean, 294 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:55.880 here's your Navy seal officer. Matt Bracken is one of the most fantastic 295 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:02.079 authors. He actually got me started. He's my mentor. He put a 296 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:06.359 whole chapter in a night fighting. Now, who's going to go night fight? 297 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.960 You may at some point, if things get bad enough, have to 298 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.599 be protective of your property when there's no moonlight, no street lights. And 299 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.559 to do that, he tells you how to do it without all this expensive 300 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:26.240 night vision and infraretic And this, to me is one of the critical aspects 301 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:33.759 of being able to protect your neighborhood. There's you know, back in Texas 302 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:40.960 they had such an invasion of feral pigs that it was open season at any 303 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:42.079 given time. As a matter of fact, if oh, yeah, a 304 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.279 pig tail, I know my sister lived there. Yes, I heard all 305 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.119 about that. Yeah, And if you could bring in a pigtail in the 306 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.680 county that we lived in, there would give you a cash, you know, 307 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.839 for for any pigs that you could prove that you'd killed. But it 308 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.119 was really difficult to kill them, and you know, it would come out 309 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:03.160 at night and you would have to have these really expensive night you know, 310 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.839 vision things. But of course you had to be very very stealthy. They 311 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.039 would hear you coming from way off and so you had to you know, 312 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.440 the people who would go hunting them in an area where it was fairly large. 313 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.119 They put blankets all over their car and everything, tried to keep the 314 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:21.079 noise down. But so it was very difficult to do that. But again 315 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.279 it didn't involve some very expensive equipment. So he's got a way to do 316 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.440 that without getting their really expensive nights going. Well, not so much hunting 317 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:33.400 feral fig but you protected your property, Yeah, definitely. I mean Matt 318 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.759 flood seal teams in the Middle East. He knows this stuff inside out and 319 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.759 backward. He wrote the whole chapter for me. I got a way to 320 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:44.880 store checking eggs without refrigeration for up to two years. This is the way 321 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.799 it was done. If you wondered how these guys in New York were in 322 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.240 a six gun still out there got their eggs for breakfast, it was really 323 00:25:52.240 --> 00:26:03.200 true. Their refrigeration method that in the hydrogenated lime, and it says, 324 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:08.599 I've got how to do this in there. One thing I was taught. 325 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:15.039 I was in a commando unit, and I was taught by Israeli and British 326 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:22.279 Commonwealth sas instructors. Is I was taught things like skipping rounds. Guy. 327 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:30.119 Everybody's obviously everybody thinks ninety five percent of the equation of survival is firearms and 328 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.200 ammunition. That is not true. It's ninety five percent of it is food 329 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.119 and water. But you may need to protect what you have. You can 330 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:47.839 make a single round, jacketed round turn into a shotgun basically by skipping rounds. 331 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.279 This is something that we were taught to do. I've got in there 332 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.480 where to get Mothers and Nate to find that term for skipping round You're you're 333 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.880 talking about shooting at the ground at something that's hard, that's going to fracture 334 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.039 the bullet, I'm assuming right right, Yeah, fragments that I've got pictures 335 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:10.160 in the book of of AK rounds I've fired and seven sixty two by fifty 336 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:11.880 one, which is three to eight and eight a round, and the five 337 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:18.759 to five to six millimeters M sixteen air round and it's it's absolutely amazing. 338 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:25.759 Along with the debris that this bullet will kick up, these will call not 339 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:32.720 all of these holes in the sample silhouette target I have would be lethel, 340 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.920 but they certainly would make a bad day for the guy that's laying in weight 341 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.119 trying to kill you. You know. But like salt, where you get 342 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:48.480 salt? How to keep from freezing in cold weather without burning fuel. I 343 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.160 got reugh something we may all need that, even if it's some kind of 344 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:59.559 a catastrope, because they're trying to Yeah, we're so close from from grid 345 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.079 shot and we're so close to this type of thing. I don't think people 346 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:10.279 realize how critical and how susceptible this is to shut down. I mean, 347 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.400 don't you think about this often. I mean, oh, you've got a 348 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.880 lot of lights and electronic stuff in your show there. Yeah, oh yeah, 349 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.839 we lost power I think it was last week or the week before that, 350 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.440 and you know, we could have a backup here, but we don't 351 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.799 have really the kind of internet access that's going to allow us to do the 352 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.599 bandwidth that we need. And so you know, we had to start the 353 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.519 show like three hours almost three hours late that day because it just shut everything 354 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.960 down in the entire area around here. Everything's shut down, school shut down, 355 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.759 all the stores are shut down. And so you look at that and 356 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:41.759 you get a little bit of a taste of it, but then you also 357 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:48.319 realize these politicians are trying to gradually they're like grimlins destroying the grid system themselves 358 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.039 in slow motion. And we've seen the results of that. When we were 359 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.440 in Texas, you know where they the entire time I was in Texas for 360 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:02.880 a decade, they were shutting down coal and oil power plants and putting in 361 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:08.079 windmills and solar panels, and the windmills froze and everything froze, and we 362 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.240 were out of power for a while with that. So you know, they're 363 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:17.079 making the whole system very, very vulnerable. Everybody. Every summer, people 364 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.240 can see how the capacity and the vulnerability is. The capacity is going down, 365 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:25.039 the vulnerability is going up because every summer or winter, whenever you have 366 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.319 extremely cold or hot weather, everybody is being warned, oh, don't use 367 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.119 any electricity because we're right on the edge of going down. We never had 368 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.279 anything like that in decades past. This is something that's brand new. It's 369 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.000 their new normal when it comes to energy starvation, and it's only going to 370 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.960 get worse. It's only going to get well rapidly. We've had such an 371 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.279 explosion of the use of electronics. I mean, our computers don't draw that 372 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.640 much, but you put everybody's computer together, and you put this foolishness of 373 00:29:53.720 --> 00:30:03.039 these electro mandated electric vehicles together with cutting back on the main state of the 374 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:08.000 muscle of power production, which is coal, fire, plants and nuclear I 375 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:14.839 don't think are very much better. Uh, and depending on mother nature for 376 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.839 wind mills, solar, it's a recipe for disaster. And yeah, it's 377 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.480 what a degree that disasters is another seingal. You know, whether it comes 378 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.240 to not being able to drive your car, not being able to get groceries 379 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.839 at the grocery store, those are two different degrees of the danger. Yeah, 380 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.079 or not being able to get emergency medical help to you or to get 381 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.240 to where there's emergency medical help. That type of thing doesn't necessarily have to 382 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.960 rely on on some kind of a war or something breaking out or sabotage. 383 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.119 It's just it's gradually being sabotaged by these people, and they're increasing it. 384 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.160 You know, as you talked about nuclear, the whole idea that we got 385 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.400 to stop all this stuff because of the emissions. I see a lot of 386 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.319 problems with nuclear because I understand what the long term issues are with the storage. 387 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:03.960 But nevertheless, you know, they are not looking to replace anything that 388 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.039 they're taking down with something that is known, that works, that is reliable. 389 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.680 You know, nuclear is reliable. It's got some back end costs that 390 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.079 are huge on it. It's got some other risks that are involved there, 391 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.640 but they don't care about any of this stuff. And they're not talking about 392 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:21.839 the nuclear even though it has by their admission, zero emissions. So according 393 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.519 to their story, that ought to be something that they would turn to. 394 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.319 So you know, there's something else here and we know exactly what that is. 395 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.839 It's a deliberate destruction of the grid. Yeah, sat along with the 396 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.440 grid, you may as well replace that word grid with America because if the 397 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:42.519 grid goes on, we've got some serious problem. I cannot believe the level 398 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:49.359 of corruption that has It's even gotten into the area I'm in. There's developers 399 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:56.240 that are trying to increase the water allotment MINU Southwest. It's a desert, 400 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:04.440 you know, cities like Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, even Phoenix and 401 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.079 Albuquerque. They're all cities that are in the desert, the high desert. 402 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.319 And Uh, there seems to be an endless drive to build properties here because 403 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:23.440 everybody's leaving California. But that's that's the corruption. Uh, And the people 404 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:29.319 that are involved with this on a federal level, it just astounds me. 405 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:35.680 It astounds for me. I see very few people that are Matt Gates and 406 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:42.680 Margye Green and Ran Paul. They're all people that I deeply respect because I 407 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:51.960 think that they've had uh, they've they've had well. Gates himself was literally 408 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.279 tried. They tried to lynch him, and they picked on the wrong guy 409 00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:02.160 because the billionaire family of his got behind him and traced back this fraudulent scheme 410 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.119 all the way into the Justice department. Nothing was ever done, but they 411 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.240 it seemed to drop off there. They could never find out who it was 412 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.839 connected to. But the level of corruption has gotten to the point, I 413 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.359 don't know. The older I get, the more I believe in the Bible. 414 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:22.720 I have one son that was a Muslim. He's no longer. He 415 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.160 asked him many questions and I think asked him to leave. And the other 416 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.640 one was I guess you might say the Christian. He was a sergeant of 417 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.960 his scout sniper unit in weapons platoon unit in a rock. Kind of the 418 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:44.039 absolute of contradictions. They both love each other. They're great, great guys, 419 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.039 great guy I'm very proud of them. But the point being this is 420 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.880 I am more and more am seeing the wisdom of reading the Bible and the 421 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:58.359 wonderful story it has, and I look back at my life, David, 422 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.880 and I tell you, I told my wife the other day that must have 423 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.599 been a period of insanity I was in when I'm doing this or that, 424 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:14.320 and I said, only God and Jesus, some entity kept me alive. 425 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.840 For what reason, I don't know, but I i the odds are I 426 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.800 shouldn't have survived what I did. But the point being this, I more 427 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:30.920 and more look at the Bible, and I'm a Christian, and I'd like 428 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:36.960 to accept anybody's religion that as long as they aren't going around trying to kill 429 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.079 me. But you know, we support religous freedom because we want to have 430 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.760 it for ourselves. You know, I've said that about everything. You know, 431 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.440 even when you talk about free speech, you can't have any freedom in 432 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.199 any form if you don't support that freedom for somebody else. So I can't 433 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.000 have my freedom of religion if I don't support your freedom of religion. But 434 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.599 you're right, you know, you ask questions, and you should be asking 435 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.320 questions, and then you're right to talk about the Bible. You know, 436 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.679 you don't have a chapter in here on the Bible that is the ultimate prepping, 437 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:09.679 isn't it, Because that is but I do have a section on religion, 438 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:14.760 and I have six points that I go over that I'll accept anybody's religion. 439 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:22.400 And you know, obviously people that are advocating killing the infidels or killing 440 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.800 the Muslims or whatever either way that they're going need to step back and look 441 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.360 at the fact that the majority of people that do believe in a higher power 442 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.039 and can humble themselves before that, the majority of people just want to live 443 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.079 in peace, and I don't think they want to sit in and have a 444 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.880 knife in each other's throat. I think we've moved away from that in the 445 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.000 country. I think that's one of the critical factors we're having. And there's 446 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.119 in my opinion, the globalists have an attack on this. It is it's 447 00:35:54.119 --> 00:36:00.039 something that's a competition to what they want to instill in humanity, which by 448 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.400 the way, is illusionary. It's based on communism. Oh yeah, oh 449 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.760 yeah, absolutely is. By the way, Merry Christmas to you before thank 450 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:15.119 you you as well. Yeah, that's another example that they want to try 451 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.199 to shut things down. I mean, they they're very very intolerant, very 452 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.719 tutalitarian, and and so that's one thing that we want to be able to 453 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.519 push back on and to stand firm against it. And I think the key 454 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.320 thing is, you know, one of the things to prepare for is to 455 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.239 understand your relationship with God, and that one of the reasons that we see 456 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.239 everybody fighting each other in this country is because we've thrown God out. You 457 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.400 know, we don't have peace with God. We're going to have war with 458 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.920 each other. And absolutely, one hundred percent crack yeah that I've come to 459 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:52.159 this conclusion not because I'm getting older and I'm afraid of dying. I face 460 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.880 death many times. Bottom line is this. I think about things a lot, 461 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:02.039 and I think about some entity kept me alive and some energy has given 462 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:09.719 me the blessings of wonderful children, a wonderful wife, and I'm just appreciative. 463 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:16.199 And I love Christianity because it's the one religion of all of them that 464 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:23.920 professes forgiveness and sacrifice. And when you read about it, whatever you want 465 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:31.880 to think about Jesus or God is up to the individual. But I got 466 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.320 six points in my book that I go over that pretty much encapsulate what I 467 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:44.440 think it should allow a person to look at another religion and accept its existence 468 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.760 instead of trying to exterminate. I mean, look at these jokers over in 469 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.920 the Middle East. They've been trying to kill each other off for four or 470 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.960 five thousand years, you know, and he doesn't see. Yeah, I 471 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.840 know. I've heard people say, well, you know, we've had a 472 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.039 situation in the past where Catholics are trying to kill the process of the process 473 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.840 of trying to kill the Catholics and so forth, this kind of war. 474 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.719 And as one person said, you know, well, you know, at 475 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.480 that point in time, they took their religious differences of seriously enough that they 476 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.360 would go to war over it. But that was when it was tied in 477 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.199 with government. And so we looked at this and it's like, well, 478 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:22.079 we still want to take this seriously, but we want to have the toleration 479 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.440 that we're not going to establish anything. That's really what the basis of America 480 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.000 was. And yet, you know, as you as you get older and 481 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.079 you and you're talking about it, you know, when you're younger, you 482 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.679 look at it. And when I was younger, I should say, I 483 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.639 would look at it and it's like a you know, fear of death. 484 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.360 I don't have the fear of death anymore. I'm not I don't it's not 485 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.639 something that I look forward to experiencing. Certainly be an unpleasant experience, but 486 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.039 when I look at it now, I look at it with an anticipation of 487 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.559 what comes next. And that's the biggest thing that takes the fear of death 488 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.599 away. Is not that you're you're going to be leaving behind the things that 489 00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.679 you and people that you especially people that you really love, but there's an 490 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.920 expectation you're going to be reunited with him, and that's what we work for. 491 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.840 We work to try to take as many with us as we can and 492 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.679 to try to get there ourselves. And so that anticipation and that you know 493 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.360 and what it is about, I find it very when we're talking about books. 494 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.800 I love Randy al khorns Heaven because he begins with the Bible and he 495 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:24.400 tries to keep it as based in the Bible, and he gives a reason 496 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.800 why, you know, this would fit with the Bible. But it's a 497 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.119 very positive understanding of what life would be like afterwards. It's not just hanging 498 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.159 around on clouds and you know, doing nothing that at all. You know, 499 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.280 his makes a biblical case that we would be very active, and would 500 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.000 be active in a sense that we don't have the kind of frustration futility that 501 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.760 we have here on this earth. But it is also as even in that 502 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.199 book and as you talked about your friend who left Islam because our night friend, 503 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.400 but your son he left Islam because he asked too many questions. We 504 00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.400 invite questions, and we invite that in sp And as I do that, 505 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:07.719 and as I look at it more carefully, it actually bolsters my confident expectations. 506 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.920 And the more I more deeply I look at it, more closely, 507 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.639 I look at it rather than pushing me away. And so've I always invite 508 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.719 that, you know, somebody is skeptical about something, let me hear it, 509 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.800 you know, let me look at it, because every time I look 510 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.239 at it, it gets validated and and my faith gets stronger for doing that 511 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.679 investigation. Yes, it does. It has a way of drawing you further 512 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:35.119 into it. And I think that your belief grows as you expose yourself to 513 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.719 this. I mean, I had a friend of mine saw a Bible sitting 514 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.719 in the front seat in my car and he says, lawson, you the 515 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.920 Bible. You know, what are you doing? You know? And I 516 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.079 told him, I said, you know, sometimes I said there's some fantastic 517 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.599 stories in there. I said, I read these things and it's like a 518 00:40:54.679 --> 00:41:00.119 roadmap for life. The Old Testament. New Testament is a roadmap, but 519 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.800 tells you all the mistakes. They're telling you what the mistakes they were that 520 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.719 they made, and they're telling you not to do it. And unfortunately, 521 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:14.480 most of the experience of life for people is making mistakes by which you learn 522 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:20.840 wisdom. And I just also encourage every adult out in your listing area, 523 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:25.360 every one of them. Well, there was a there was a song by 524 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.119 the Judds. Grandpa, tell me about the good old days. I've said 525 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.320 this before, but you know the thing is, now you start to realize 526 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:42.599 your grandpa and younger people need guidance. And I think a person needs to 527 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:47.039 give them the guidance that wisdom of their age provides them, and and have 528 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.760 some faith in these young people. They're good, good young people out there. 529 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.760 And yeah, that's well. They talk about their preparation on individual liberties. 530 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.519 That's the way I measure everything, not the Second Amendment. I measure 531 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.079 individual liberties, which the Second amen was a part of. Yes, they're 532 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.199 now attacking free speech. If you don't believe, if you have somebody that 533 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.079 doesn't believe in individual liberties. That's somebody I don't want anything to do us. 534 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:22.280 Yeah, and that's that's Congress anything to do with most of them. 535 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.880 So yeah, it is true. You know, we were talking about nuclear 536 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.599 but the nuclear family, that term I just recently realized that term was just 537 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.440 kind of referring to, you know, mother and father and immediate kids. 538 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.960 Because we have a mobile society and people would you know, leave the area 539 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.920 that they grew up in for the most part, and leave their extended family 540 00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.440 and go to another part of the country. And so you just had that 541 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.360 role corp there mother, father and kids. You didn't have the extended family 542 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.800 of grandparents and cousins and things like that. And so in a sense, 543 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.760 you know, that was one of the things that really kind of undercut us. 544 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.599 And as you point out, you know, as grandpa, we got 545 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:05.719 to tell those stories and we've got to keep that culture going. And that's 546 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:13.280 one thing that really is we've lost that. And everybody is attached not even 547 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.760 to their nuclear family, but they're attached to the kids get attached to the 548 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.400 school, you know, they get more attached to their team, their schoolmates. 549 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.719 Then they get to their siblings, and they get more attached perhaps to 550 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:29.239 their teachers in many cases than they do to their parents. Put the iPhone 551 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.159 down. Put the iPhone down. Every once. I've seen families in restaurants. 552 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.880 I don't know what they're doing sitting together other than they're reading their text 553 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.079 messages there. Yeah, I don't even call it a phone anymore. It's 554 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.400 it's an entertainment center. Put the phone down. Put your entertainment center down, 555 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.920 and look your kids in the eyes and talk to them. I do 556 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.960 this all the time. We've kind of got an off limits phone thing here. 557 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.039 I have a son in law is an attorney, doesn't always work with 558 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:06.920 he's always on the always on the phone. But anyway, it's it's something 559 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:14.239 that's important. These young people don't try to cram a religion down their throat. 560 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:19.280 They'll come to it. Yeah. Giving the guidance to a child and 561 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.760 wisdom and being an example I think is very very important. Yeah, that's 562 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.360 right. And it's the time that you spend with them. You know, 563 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.559 you go back and you look at Deuteronomy six. You know, as you're 564 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:30.920 walking with your kids in the way you do this, Well, you've got 565 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.159 to be with them in order to be able to have a teachable moment as 566 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:37.400 you're walking with him. So that's the key part of it, I think. 567 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:45.639 But getting back to the survival stuff, that's more immediate when you we're 568 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.599 talking about the open border and and the unrest that is going to come with 569 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.920 that is as we see the anarchy that's being pushed in both directions, both 570 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.920 with an open border and with the policies of a lot of these Soros district 571 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.840 attorneys. Just turning from goes down on the street. Now we're seeing one 572 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:07.280 of the district attorneys and I think is in New Orleans he gets carjacked by 573 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.639 somebody he let out. And we have an FBI agent who just got carjacked, 574 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:13.800 and we have a congressman who got carjacked in Washington, DC, And 575 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.360 so they're creating a great deal of anarchy and things like that. Do you 576 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.800 address just that kind of ordinary personal safety on a regular basis in your book? 577 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:27.599 Yes, I do, awareness, Yeah, Yes I do. I 578 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.960 have I have a whole section. I sat on a police board and a 579 00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:37.039 major It was one of the largest police boards in the United States, and 580 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:44.199 I was a judge of officer involved shootings and use of deadly force and I 581 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.760 was on that of seven years, so I had a lot of exposure to 582 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:52.840 law enforcement having to deal with the public, and along with that, I 583 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:59.239 put a lot of information in there on how to common sense, watch where 584 00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:04.000 you're doing, where you are, what you're doing, and be aware of 585 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.480 threat. I'm a believer in this. I believe a person walking from the 586 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:15.519 grocery store door out to their car in a semilit parking lot can sense a 587 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.199 danger around them, but the problem is they're thinking about everything other than that. 588 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:25.559 We're almost like the old sitcom The Jetson's where this guy had the antenna's 589 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.079 come out of his forehead, you know, only we don't let ours out 590 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.639 anymore. We were always thinking about something else. And on that police board, 591 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:40.960 I talked to hundreds of people and was always the same statement, Oh 592 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.440 they came out of nowhere. They didn't come out of nowhere. They were 593 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.079 waiting for you, but you weren't thinking about them and you weren't tuned in. 594 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.840 I swear there's almost a sense of adrenaline in the area that you could 595 00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:00.199 pick up on or some type of telepathic thought. When there's evil about you, 596 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.559 you can you can be aware of this, but uh, I've got 597 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.519 quite a bit in there about how to survive a night fight, which is 598 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:14.280 basically turn and run. If you talk to any special operations guys, they 599 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.440 give you all kinds of different movements and blocking movements and that type of thing, 600 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:23.400 but wrapping a code around your arm to protect yourself, doing whatever you 601 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:28.840 have to. But the number one rule I had an instructor tell me turn 602 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:35.599 and run. But uh, there's quite a bit on common sense protection. 603 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:42.840 Also, I get heavily into the neighborhood protection, and I am revising some 604 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:47.360 of what have written. I am astounded at what has happened. I was 605 00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.880 exposed to the Mormons the very first one of these I set up with, 606 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.840 and they were there were people that ate the stuff up and asked for seconds. 607 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.239 They were the type of because of their religion pushes this time. The 608 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:06.679 thing is self preservation and a group protection of your area. But I've noticed 609 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.760 where I live, I'm getting people coming from areas of the country. They've 610 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.480 lived in an any state where they're told everything they can do and what they 611 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.239 can't do, mostly what they can't do. And it amazes me that I 612 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:28.480 see these people have gotten The males have gotten so feminized, and everybody is, 613 00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.840 oh, you can't do that, or oh that's against the law. 614 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.039 Well I'm not a lawyer, but I know enough about how police look at 615 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.360 you in your own area to be able to state, as I do in 616 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:47.599 the book, what to do. And it's frightening to me that this attitude, 617 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:54.480 of this lack of days ago attitude, this I don't really care about, 618 00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:01.679 this is so overwhelming people. Again. My latest post in my book 619 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:07.119 my blog is an article called fear that was written by a preacher friend of 620 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:15.559 a friend of mine, a guy called genic Can gen x Can, and 621 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.800 it's basically tells you how to deal with it. I believe this. Get 622 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.480 some food, get some water, get yourself a protection device, whether it's 623 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:30.400 a firearm or whether it's non lethal like bear spray. You'd have bear spray 624 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.360 and be prepared. Then enjoy your family, enjoy life, but get something 625 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.800 to tide you over. When the grocery stores are being rated by everybody, 626 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:43.320 that's right, that's right. And you know when you look at the advice 627 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.719 that you've got here being situationally aware of what is happening, you know, 628 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.599 it's amazing to me when we look at how everybody is freaking out over things 629 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.199 that are absolutely nothing, and yet they completely ignore the real dangers around them. 630 00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.480 And interesting, Yeah, isn't that an interesting contradiction. That's the It 631 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:01.760 kind of gets you passive in a lot of different ways. And I think 632 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:07.719 about it in terms of driving. You know, I've been in countries where 633 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.400 there's not really any lanes and people just free form. But people are more 634 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.079 aware of what's going on. They're constantly thinking about all the software is Americans 635 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.239 get lulled into this. It's like, Okay, I got my lane, 636 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.360 I got my traffic light. That light's green. I'm going I'm not even 637 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.159 going to look to see if somebody's running it in the other direction. Right 638 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.039 over A very interesting perspective. Yeah, that is very true, and I 639 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.039 think that has happened to us in all aspects of our life. And so 640 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.880 I think that's one of the big advantages of reading your book because it opens 641 00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.199 people up to Okay, this type of thing can happen, and that kind 642 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.159 of thing can happen. But even to the extent you're talking about keeping warm, 643 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.920 easy ways to keep warm, not just if you lose power, but 644 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.639 just if you want to try to save some money because or whatever, you 645 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.960 know, in terms of food and other things like that, and this time 646 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.559 of rapid inflation and things like that that might happen, or with job and 647 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.559 security, you know, making some preparation of things that are going to tide 648 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.480 you over that is very, very important, and so it has immediate usage 649 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.079 in terms of preparation I think for the things we're going to face on a 650 00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:13.440 regular basis, but also for catastrophic things. But even if the catastrophic things 651 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.480 don't happen, you're going to be better off with these types of preparations and 652 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:21.079 understanding what is there and ready for a type of a lot of different things 653 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.199 that are going to come at you. So it's a great book. I 654 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:29.039 highly recommend this to people, and have no people won't need people won't need 655 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.000 this knowledge. Yes, which in the next two years, especially since the 656 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.079 next year is an election year, I anticipate not totally anarchy in the country, 657 00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:45.760 but I anticipate towards the election, I anticipate there's going to be a 658 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.960 lot of riding. The rule of law is basically going out the window already. 659 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.519 To me, I would not want to be a policeman, which I 660 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.159 wanted to be for a long time. Yeah, I would not want to 661 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.679 be a policeman now because there's a total lack of respect. Yeah for the 662 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.000 police, that's right, and a lot of job to go to work, 663 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.280 a lot of handcuffs put on them, isn't that while they release the criminals. 664 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.280 That's the way the rules have been. I'm not saying I'm not saying 665 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.360 some of that shouldn't be. Yeah, that's right, because there are there 666 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:21.480 are situations. But basically in my book Where to Honker down in the City, 667 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.000 I don't advocate a person stays in the city, but if you do, 668 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.679 there are certain ways that you can survive. If you're in the summertime. 669 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.760 There's enough food around to eat in alleys with weeds edible. Well to 670 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.440 talk about that the next time. There's so much in the book and two 671 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:40.480 volumes of this again. The website is Civil Defensemanual dot com. Go there 672 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.519 and take a look at least at what he has to say about water. 673 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.639 That is vital and we need to start thinking about preparedness because things are going 674 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.760 to get very volatile very soon. 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