Third round the podcast with Alejandro Gaviria and Ricardo Silva Romero. A podcast of
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do. Whatsapp a file of secrets, thoughts, problems, facts, because
of memories that if someone were spying as if someone were going into one'
s apartment and spying on what one has, then he would have a very
definite idea of who one is. Whatsapp you did well, Ricardo, it
' s not just a communication technology that we use to talk to others and
exchange information. It is also an exhaustive record of life, an exhaustive record
of what happens to us every day. The first thing to say about Whatsapp,
Alexander, I think is that, in any case, it' s
a miracle. This happens to me often that I think it' s an
old man' s gesture and that' s that it doesn' t stop
surprising me everything we have now the hand, the possibility of calling anyone anywhere
in the world by Whatsapp, the Internet, the platforms where all the movies
are. It' s still surprising to me. And the first thing I
think about when I think about a whatsapp is that it' s miraculous that
you can see yourself in a call with someone who' s on the other
side of the world, face to face, like the supersonics were seen in
the animated series and at any moment now with real effectiveness, no struggle,
no drama, like when the Internet started. Well, it' s miraculous
that technology that you know is gonna be better in two months and in a
year it' s gonna be science fiction. I relate Whatsapp. With that
first of all the rich, we resorted again to whatsapp audios to keep our
weekly conversation alive, the other audio exchange. I was in Barranquilla today and
we couldn' t make our weekly appointment. I find it interesting what it
raises about the magic of these technologies and I want to raise a discussion,
if you want parallel, a discussion about the most urgent debate of our society,
the most urgent one of these contemporary partners, and it is the debate
about the impact of the technology of our lives and how we incorporate these technologies
into individual and collective life. The technologies or this technology, this and all
have great benefits, but they also have costs and that challenge I would like
to put it in this rich way, and that is to incorporate it in
such a way that we can preserve some humanity, because this and the vast
majority of the technologies can be dehumanizing and that is not easy, and I
think it requires certain commandments, certain social norms, certain, I do not
know if centralized regulation, but at least some reflection on the impact of this
technology on our lives, which is going to be the emphasis of the third
round conversation. This time it makes whatsapp think about the challenges that the Internet
has brought, with its networks, with its blogs, to everyday life,
to private life. Even Whatsapp, it is already the height of social networks,
of the connection of having one whomever you want at hand and it seems
to me that it is a challenge in many ways, that is, being
connected all the time. It' s demanding and exasperating. Being connected all
the time is a challenge for mental health. It' s a source of
anxiety and Whatsapp is sometimes a shelling that overwhelms you and sometimes it' s
invasive and sometimes it makes you miss life before people can write to you at
two in the morning asking you something that' s going to happen five days
later. It is in a way a reconfiguration of private life. That,
for example, couples have their phones, everyone on their night table and light
up the room in the morning because someone got a message. It seems to
me, therefore, entangled and I think it creates a new obstacle to the
connection in intimacy. And it seems to me, besides, that whatsapp begins
to make a file of secrets, of thoughts, of problems, of facts,
of memories that if someone were spying as if someone were going into one
' s apartment and spying on what one has, then they would have a
very definite idea of who one is and could have even one on the dark
side. I have many friends with whom I write, because heavy jokes or
I send me commented news. There is a whole intimacy there that can be
exposed and ruined to anyone, that is, if you were hacked, if
you were spyed on and saw everything you talk to and who you talk to,
because you would have a different idea of who you are. That worries
me and has even led me to think of an idea for a story that
is clearly satirical of what could happen when, for example, a political candidate
that we already know implies of a candidacy, When a political candidate discovers what
he chats with and who he chats with and the photos he sends, it
seems to me that he could give for something satirical interesting. Whatsapp, you
say it well, Ricardo, is not just a communication technology that we use
to talk to others and exchange information. It is also an exhaustive record of
life, an exhaustive record of what happens to us every day. There is
still that archive of small things, but also of sublime moments of what life
is made of. And that record is in a thing that today is perhaps
euphemistically called the cloud and being in the cloud, we know that it will
be there for many years, perhaps forever. It is a form of immortality
if someone recently, but it also means that many others or others will probably
be able to see it. And this raises a disturbing scenario, because what
it means is that our privacy is yielding and that idea that we have the
vast majority of human beings, that there is an intimate environment, something that
we exchange with some people and that we don' t want it to be
public as it begins to give in to being lost, we sacrifice by using
a part of our privacy or at least we take that risk for a short
time and this is an example of what happens differently with Whatsapp, that before,
the infidelities required the imagination of the aggrieved party and probably someone found a
paper, a note wrinkled in their partner' s pocket. But now,
with Whatsapp there is an exhaustive record of that infidelity and every message seen or
interviewed by the traditional part is a dagger in the heart. And then the
infidelities. Now, with these new technolos that I come back and repeat have
many benefits, but they change our lives in many ways, they are perhaps
now, in this modern society, much more painful. I believe that whatsapp
' s commandments are implicit in what I have thought out loud, but some
things that I do believe should happen, that is, that God should appear
and deliver some tables with those laws are these. For example, not demanding
an answer when you send whatsapp those people who press and push and send emoticons
to passively push aggressively, I think I should follow the commandment, not demand
an answer. I think another commandment Whatsapp should be not to disconnect the blue
pimps that prove that the person has already read the message. I think that
game of pretending to the other that you didn' t notice is infamous and
that it' s also infamous that people don' t tolerate being left in
sight, that is, sometimes you don' t have time to respond.
It is life is overwhelming, because I have a family, many jobs to
complete and answer Whatsapp becomes overwhelming. I think you could let it out and
people assume that at some point they' ll answer you. Another commandment,
which I think should be carved, is not to leave a wave that says
nothing. There are people who soon write to one hello and do not complete.
They don' t say they want to. Of course, they don
' t just want to say hello, but there are people waiting for you
to answer them hello and then they answer how you are and start a kind
of dream in life, awake sleep that looks like torture. I think that
when you write, you should at once say what you' re thinking and
what you don' t want to start by saying hello. Another commandment that
I think is needed is not to return the whatsapp, the new email.
It seems to me that people don' t have enough email and then they
write some very long stuff on Whatsapp and not only that the game of first
sending the email and then writing it one by Whatsapp I sent you an email.
It' s desperate. It' s the email that lost authority and
I think you should get it back, because it' s a quieter way
of communicating that you can have with people, because it' s not family
or group of friends or even the working group. If people who want to
propose something, send something, because I think you have to be patient,
you have to recover the patience that he himself, Whatsapp, has taken from
us. And finally, of a commandment that seems very clear to me and
that may be controversial. But the commandments tend to do so is not to
send audios. Audios are really unbearable. I see an audio, I see
it lasts two minutes and it' s quite possible that you don' t
hear it take me days to hear it, because it implies you have to
ask the people around to shut up because you' re going to go audio,
because then you have to look for hearing aids to hear it, because
you don' t know what barbarity they' re going to tell you.
Anyway, audios seem only possible to me among people who know themselves too well
and are very close and can overcome everything. I would make it a commandment
not to send audio or rich. I heard your whatsapp commandments before I got
on the plane, I came back from barranquilla, boot and wrote mine already
on the plane six whatsapp commandments. I' ll start with the first one.
Says the following. Commandment not to be for a great vital urgency or
a deranged love of those who border on delirium. Do not call another person
untimely, always anticipate the call with a brief message. I can call you
You' re available. Those who call insistently two or three or four times
in the same minute commit a grave misdemeanor, a violation of this first commandment
which, in my opinion, should be punished with second commandment cartal. Every
message is left to say, the beginning of a conversation. We should keep
in mind that many other people are trying to start conversations at the same minute
at the same time. If you neglect whatsapp, you have ten or twenty
requests to start conversation at some point, it' s like ten or twenty
phones ringing at the same time the same cure. I think I' m
insane. That being the case, Ricardo, I propose how you do it
the same way. A second commandment, be clear from the beginning about the
topic topic topic, question or concern about what you want to deal with.
Simple messages like Hello, Good Morning, How Are You or the Terrible Hello
are strictly forbidden according to this commandment, this code of use. Third commandment.
We have to bear in mind that every user has already said it at
any time, fifteen, twenty, thirty, open conversations. Therefore, messages
of more than five hundred, characters, audios of more than a minute or
those eternal videos are forbidden, strictly forbidden. They try to take away from
others that scarce resource in this time of distraction, that resource on which others
revolve all the time. Fourth commandment has to do with the emoticons. Emoticons
are interesting, they are an emphasis, often a shortcut, but I think,
they should be used with economy. Messages that look like an Egyptian hieroglyph
are inconveniences and are forbidden. Lovers may be able to send hearts, but
normal ones should, in my opinion, use the alphabet. We' ll
talk about whatsapp users' rights, but in my case, one of those
rights is not to immediately open and delete the message that has many emoticons.
Fifth commandment repeated joke is no joke. It is strictly forbidden to send the
same meme or the same Tiktok video to all contacts. This one should be
jailed, too. Sixth command bear in mind that each user can have about
twenty or thirty or forty active Whatsapp groups before introducing it or putting it into
one. To a Whatsapp group, anyone should send an explanation, a statement
of reasons and ask permission. I ask for respect when they put you inadvertently,
to those virtual seals or career pitches or frantic exchanges of porn videos that
are the vast majority of whatsapp groups And maybe the other side of the commandments
are the rights of users, and one has to claim the right to their
privacy, for example, file messages that come from someone who you do not
know, for example, to delete messages from institutions or banks that there is
no right to have them reach one you have to claim the right not to
respond quickly to whatsapp. More personalities like mine believe you' re to blame
for not responding to someone, for having things to look forward to. And
sometimes you just have to recognize that you don' t have time in life,
not because you were very busy at work, but because one' s
time, for example, can be with your family or, for example,
do nothing. And one has the right not to respond quickly and even seems
to me to never respond. This time third round to Ricardo. For me
we are accompanied by laps. I' m here from Barranquilla. I'
m in Bogotá now and I heard your rights from the Whatsapp users and here
I have mine very much like yours but well, here are ten rights.
The first, the most important of all, not to answer If someone proposes
a conversation at some point we can say no. That' s called freedom.
The second, as you mention it, I am rich to let you
see how to read and decide not to answer, at least for now,
out of indifference, out of lack of time or simply out of laziness.
Third right to leave the Whatsapp groups without major pronouncements, simply saying chao does
not interest me. I' m leaving. Fourth, the right to file
and block contacts, especially those that are very intense. Archivar is a form
of invisible indifference, blocking is an antimopathy, visible antipathy and both work.
Archive and block intense contacts. Fourth right, fifth to spend hours or days
without opening Whatsapp. Life doesn' t happen. Whatsapp. Answering can even
lead us to a vicious circle while one more answer is written to him.
Sixth Right, the intermittent fast of Whatsapp, rest some mornings from that unhealthy
diet of moticons and bad jokes that often become Oasapp. Seventh right answer with
monosyllables, the OK Just the OK point works well. The little thumb up
there also works. It seems to me sometimes slightly offensive, but it can
also be answered. That' s a right eighth right. The right I
will call in this way the non- reciprocity to write short to those who
write long and vice versa. A thousand- character message can be answered perfectly
with a ninth ok right not to deliver contact to anyone who does not ask.
There are simply people with whom we do not have an interest to start
conversations and tenth right we do not have to fulfill the six commandments that you
mention a duck. I just have one thing left to say about Whatsapp,
and it' s about whats groups that, like in all things, can
be wonderful or can be the traveling horror. There really are groups that do
not let think, that overwhelm, that burden, that only serve to create
one more anxiety and the last. It is, therefore, those groups of
parents who are all the time scaring the other parents to go crazy, or
those groups of right- wing neighbors who begin to want to overthrow governments,
starting with the block in which they live. Or if those groups of people
that gather for the apocalypse, to make them feel bad and to create the
group the feeling that we are going for a cliff, the group that we
could call, are getting into the sets. But also, as I said,
there are loving groups of friends who send each other, jokes that are
accompanied, that catch up, and those, then, are a refuge.
Somehow, also that constant connection can turn one against you and I think again
of the people who are in school today, my children, for example,
and how they will be dealing with you, how much anxiety will be creating
for them the fact that they are connected all the time with groups of their
course people in snappchat or in different ways to find that that feeling one comes
home and cannot rest, but to keep hearing the same voices that he heard
all day at school. That worries me and I can' t say anything
else for the time being, because I' m not clear about the solution
apart from going to live on an island like the fantastic captain or the mosquito
character cost. In conclusion, Ricardo means seriously, talking a little about what
you mention in the end about the impact of social networks of Whatsapp and so
on, on young people. I believe that Ricardo is one of the most
worrying trends today, not only in Colombia, but in the world, and
one of the issues that is missing is the impact of social networks on the
mental health of adolescents, especially, but of young people in general. It
' s a tragedy of what' s going on. The figures that I
have seen are absolutely frightening and that reinforce the idea with which we start this
conversation is that, despite the magic of these communication technologies, they can do
harm and we have not yet found the form of social regulation And what we
are doing is at least self- regulation with rules, commandments and rights that
are perhaps a form of courtesy with us, because these technologies are all generating
anxiety for us, but I come back and repeat in the youth is having
a devastating impact until then rich and we will already find ourselves face to face
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