WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.919 It's time for Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:30.839 Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started at the 3 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.520 five o'clock hour here on a Tuesday afternoon. Appreciate you hanging out with us 4 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.280 here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Coffee and Company. That's us. My 5 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.000 name is Nick Coffee. The company man, that's mister John Alden, and 6 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.600 we are fueled by Thornton's. Make sure you stop in a local Thornton's. 7 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.439 There's many of them in the Kentucky and area. So therefore, if you 8 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:51.759 are in Kentuckyanna, there's probably one close to you. 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So for those that have been hard at it throughout 17 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.200 the afternoon, the full work day here, maybe you're just now jumping in 18 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.400 the car and you're you're and if you chose this as your resource to catch 19 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:36.319 up on the latest with sports, thank you. I appreciate it. I'm 20 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.000 sure there's things that you've missed out that I can't inform you of, but 21 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.640 I would imagine if you're listening to this show, then you're probably somebody that 22 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.840 is a fan of Louisville, Kentucky, maybe Indiana, I don't know. 23 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:49.000 Maybe you're a transplant and you know you are a fan of a different school 24 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.519 in a different state city and you tune in here because you're like, man, 25 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.840 these people are nuts. God, they're insane, and you're right, 26 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.159 but you know that actually leads to me and having a chance to you know, 27 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.359 have this job to be honest with you. So all three Louisville, 28 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.319 Kentucky, and Indiana have landed players in the portal today. We'll start with 29 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:14.319 Louisville. They picked up a commitment from Javon Hadley, who is a fifth 30 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.400 year guy, meaning he'll be in his fifth year here when he transfers to 31 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:21.759 Louisville. He visited the last couple of days and made his decision. I 32 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:23.919 think he made his decision last night, maybe this morning, but he announced 33 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:28.639 it right before the show started today. So a good get for Pat Kelsey, 34 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:32.319 no doubt. I'm just reading some quotes from the Colorado coach. I 35 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.919 think his last name is a tad Boyle. I believe is his name. 36 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.840 And just throughout the season just really gassing up Hadley as sort of the unsung 37 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.319 hero. I mean, he was fourth on the team in scoring at eleven 38 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.919 point six points per game, second in rebounds with six a game, two 39 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.039 and a half assists per game, shot fifty four percent from the field forty 40 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:54.639 two percent from three. I mean, he's a guy who can do it 41 00:02:54.680 --> 00:03:00.840 all. I'm not sure what his true strength is is what you know, 42 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.599 he's got one tool he can pull out of the bag. What's he pull 43 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.280 and I'm not sure, but he doesn't really seem to have anything that's like 44 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.280 a great weakness. So a good pickup, no doubt. He ended up 45 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:13.560 choosing Louisville over USC the other schools that he was involved in the other schools. 46 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.319 I'm sorry that he was hearing from and considering Iowa State, which you 47 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.719 know isn't usually a school you'd have to worry about. But TG Alsoberger is 48 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.479 a hell of a coach. Also, Michigan State was involved. I don't 49 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:30.520 know if he visited. So that gives Pat Kelcey four scholarship players. Which 50 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.439 I don't say that to criticize or anything. I'm just it's we all knew 51 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.919 as soon as you hired a new coach that there's a good chance that most 52 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:39.439 of the guys are not going to be back, and now it looks like 53 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.319 all of them are going to be gone. So he's got four players. 54 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.520 Thirteen scholarships is which you were allowed to have. I mentioned it earlier. 55 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:52.319 I think ten scholarships, ten scholarship players. They can give you a very 56 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.960 competitive practice and you know you can lean on him. I'm obviously not all 57 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.240 ten guys are going to play the same amount of minutes or anything like that, 58 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.280 but I think you know they may end up using the last three scholarships 59 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.680 on walk ons and it won't be something that I will say is an issue, 60 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.800 just because I just think when you get down to your last few spots 61 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.759 and you've already filled your roster with ten guys that are, you know, 62 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.519 from the portal. I just think you have a hard time selling somebody to 63 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:18.720 come in and be your eleven to twelve man, even if it's just for 64 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.680 one year. Maybe you could go down to the level. Maybe you'll find 65 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:26.439 a guy in the portal that is transferring from a low low D one school 66 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.199 and they already had low production and they just are looking for a new opportunity. 67 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.600 Maybe you could say, hey, come here and you can help us 68 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:34.720 out in practice. Probably won't play a lot, but you know you'll be 69 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.879 at Louisville and not at you know, Missouri Valley State or something. Is 70 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.800 that a real school. I think the Mississippi Valley the real school. Sorry. 71 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.360 So on the Kentucky side, Mark Pope lenn At his first player today, 72 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:47.319 and that is a player who had already committed to him years ago. 73 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.319 And that is Colin Chandler, who will be a twenty year old, twenty 74 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.680 one year old freshman this year making his debut because he was in the twenty 75 00:04:55.720 --> 00:05:00.480 twenty two class, but he had a two year more mission that kept him 76 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.800 from playing basketball. So a good get, I would assume, just because 77 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.800 of where he ranked. But two things really stood out with me when it 78 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:14.920 comes to this, this addition for Mark Pope, which really again doesn't matter, 79 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:16.720 but it's an addition, but it's kind of not right, Like this 80 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.360 is somebody that Mark Pope didn't really have to start the process over and re 81 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.759 recruit. But here's the thing he was able to get him to go to 82 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.480 BYU. Of course, I think the Mormon connection there is the big factor 83 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:32.040 in why he chose BYU. But also, you know, he's now selling 84 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.519 Kentucky, so I would imagine that's an easier sales pitch for a guy like 85 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.399 Mark Pope. But this commitment and it being you know, in the news 86 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:45.040 wire the discussion among Kentucky fans, two things stood out. One. I 87 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.879 don't think that in the two years he was on a Mormon mission that he 88 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.279 was like allowed to play basketball. Like I don't know. I won't claim 89 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.720 to know anything about what you are and you're not all I mean, but 90 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.959 when you're on a mission trip, like let's do a quick google's actually you 91 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.399 google it, johncy on mission trips, like what are you like? Is 92 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.279 there is there requirements as far as what you can do as far as activity. 93 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:06.000 I mean, maybe he's rusty in fact, he probably is rusty, 94 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.199 but you know, he's twenty years old. He'll probably be just fine. 95 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.120 But this is this is something BYU deals with every year, but it's not 96 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.439 I mean, I would imagine the players that Mark Pope now recruits are not 97 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.040 going to be all guys that are from the Mormon faith that need to do 98 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.199 a year or two abroad because you're anywhere because of a Mormon mission. But 99 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.720 I just never really thought about that, right because it's it's very common at 100 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:29.519 BYU. But when these guys are taking time off, like are they in 101 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.079 shape? Are they are they playing pick up ball? That kind of stuff. 102 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:38.040 Apparently there are certain I guess mission trips that they wouldn't require you to 103 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.560 play basketball, but you can do it on the side, And I guess 104 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.800 it depends on what you're doing or you going over to. And I'm trying 105 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.680 not to sound as if I'm poking fun because I'm not. Because you know, 106 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.360 every religion and faith has their own, you know, beliefs and things 107 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:53.160 that they encourage you to do, things they don't want you to do, 108 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.319 that kind of stuff. But Mormon there's a lot of things that are very 109 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.040 yeah, yeah, exactly, just different than what you'd exc so then what 110 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.279 you would expect from like, you know, I'm not gonna talk religion anymore. 111 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:10.319 I'm just gonna eject completely from that whole thing. But the other component 112 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.839 to this piece of news that really stood out to me is that it's going 113 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.279 to sound like I'm making fun of Kentucky fans and some of the media, 114 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.480 and you know I'm not. But you know, clearly there is a little 115 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:26.120 bit of you know, tongue in cheek with this. But the Mark Pope's 116 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.839 got his first player and it's a big, one, huge git for Mark 117 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:34.639 Pope. Wow. And most fan bases would have that reaction really no matter 118 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:39.199 who it is, because that's what fans do. But also because it's a 119 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:45.079 top thirty five player, top forty depending on where you look, and there 120 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.480 are very few if maybe Kentucky was the only school for fourteen years that like, 121 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.079 wouldn't really be gassed up about this kind of a player, And it's 122 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.800 just wild to see the difference. But that's I think one of the reasons 123 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:59.160 why they are so excited about the change that they've made is because Mark Pope 124 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.519 is so different than Ala Perry. And it's a good thing, right, 125 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.600 now, and I think, honestly, it's a good thing overall. Now 126 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.920 does that mean he's gonna win. Nobody knows. But Mark Pope is going 127 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.839 to appreciate the job that he has. He's going to understand what, in 128 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.040 fact Kentucky basketball is and they've missed that. They needed that. I think 129 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.680 they forgot what that felt like to have somebody there that loves Kentucky basketball. 130 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.519 And I think other coaches that have coached there have loved it. But it's 131 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.240 different with Pope because again, he played their won a national championship, all 132 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.920 that stuff. But he's going to go out and get guys that Cali Perry 133 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.399 wouldn't allow in the same room with him during the recruiting process. Doesn't mean 134 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.960 they won't be good, but it's just going to be so drastically different. 135 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.600 And I just know, you know, to see them excited and acting like 136 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:46.799 this guy you know, might be Jim or Furdet or something like it. 137 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.039 I couldn't help but think like, if that was Louisville that got a player 138 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.240 of that caliber, you know, maybe just a year ago, two three 139 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.879 years ago, the Kentucky reaction would have been, oh that's cute, Oh 140 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.639 wow, he's a nice little player, the four star kid. Wow, 141 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.320 good for you, Like that would be their reaction, and you all know 142 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:11.159 it's true. And now you know, it's just different, not right, 143 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.360 not wrong, it's just drastically different. And that really stood out to me 144 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:20.960 in a in a major way. So I'm really looking forward to seeing these 145 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.480 rosters come together and we can you know, determine, well, there's no 146 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.879 determining. That's going to mean. We know Louisvill's roster, the fans are 147 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.679 going to claim that they got a better team. Kentucky's roster, they're gonna 148 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.679 claim they got a better team. And you know, that's that's what this 149 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.600 is supposed to be. Like, right, I love it. And I've 150 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.440 already seen, like the Kentucky fans, some of them, you know, 151 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:50.799 already manufacturing some things upstairs to tell them that Mark Pope is is actually an 152 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.440 elite coach compared to Pat Kelsey. You know, to be fair, neither 153 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.000 of them are proven at all at this level. I mean, Mark Pope 154 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.600 coach to BYU and they did play in the Big T this year and he 155 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.039 beat some ranked teams. Like that's that's fine, but like you know, 156 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.919 neither of these guys have been at this stage before. None of us are 157 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.240 gonna know until we know. But I do like the fact, you know, 158 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.159 Mark Pope coaching at BYU and winning some games in the Big Twelve against 159 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.360 some good teams. Like I'm not saying that that's not real, but like 160 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.159 if Pat Kelsey was coaching at a place like that, he probably have similar 161 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.519 results. But we'll never know. And again, that's what makes the rivalry 162 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.919 insane and great, is that we yell at each other three hundred and sixty 163 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.919 five days a year about things that will never be able to prove each other 164 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.879 right or wrong. A lot of it's hypothetical, right, like oh, 165 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:45.000 if Kentucky played Louisville's football schedule acc Champs every year, Like we'll never know. 166 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:46.720 I mean, that's nonsense, but like that's what makes it. Why 167 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.639 are you laughing, John, I don't know? This is I love the 168 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.919 rivalry talk because and I we've said this before. Look, I've picked my 169 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.000 face up off the mat when it comes to this stuff. Have I not? 170 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.679 Like I had no life. I had no I couldn't fight back. 171 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:03.159 And this is something that I haven't experienced, at least from the show's perspective 172 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.120 since I've done Coffee and Company with you, because it's been nothing but Louisville 173 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.240 being terrible. And you're an Indiana fan and you host this show, which 174 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.879 of course is Louisville centric, but obviously we talked about everything. But you 175 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.679 grew up around here. You know Kentucky fans, you know Oval fans, 176 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.320 like you know the fan base as well, right, Like, living around 177 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.320 here is the reason that from even though I'm an Indiana fan and Kentucky's not 178 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:28.240 my primary rival, I see them as more of a rival than Perdue because 179 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.279 I interact with the UK fans more so than I ever have with Purdue fans. 180 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.240 Yeah, and that's a huge part of We actually had a caller yesterday 181 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.960 that I think that is why he's a Kentucky fan, and he just doesn't 182 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.559 think, you know, he doesn't think about Louisville as much as I guess 183 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.960 other Kentucky fans or vice versa. And it's because it's all about who you're 184 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.840 around in your environment, and around here you grew up John, where you 185 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.399 were probably sticking out like a sore thumb. People are like, why are 186 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.559 you Yeah, Na fans, so you know so so I think I do, 187 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.320 like because I can see John and the monitor throughout the show, and 188 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:03.799 I think you've you've realized that I'm pretty good at at like calling out exactly 189 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.759 the Kentucky band behavior, right, Like I've laughed at that's cute thing. 190 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.440 Yeah, because times today, well I'm not. And it's not like I'm 191 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.360 trying to tell you to gass me up. I'm so funny. But like 192 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.000 it's if you've been in the rivalry as long as you know, I mean, 193 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.799 if it's been something that's been a part of your life and you've been 194 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.519 around Louisville fans and your Kentucky fan, You've been around Kentucky fans and your 195 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.879 Louisville fan like you you know, we all kind of play the same hits, 196 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.720 right, Cow's only got one title, you know, like twenty thirteen 197 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.879 or didn't happen like those kind of things. I mean, it's just it's 198 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.320 it's it's stupid, but it's what we do now. In the Indiana side, 199 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.559 bollow the seven foot, two hundred and sixty pound big man who transferred 200 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.600 from Arizona picked the Hoosiers, And I told John earlier in all seriousness, 201 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.679 Louiville just didn't want him. I mean, he was supposed to be visiting 202 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.799 Louisville today. I think Pat Kelsey called him this morning, was like, 203 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:54.840 look, man, we we'd love to have you, but it's just not 204 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.960 going to work out. It's not you, it's me. You don't play 205 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.320 the style I want to play. So best of luck in Bloomings. And 206 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.519 that's what happened, was in the Brinks Trust the Bears, Yeah it was. 207 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.240 It was just Litland and won him, which clearly you know it's not 208 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.840 the truth. But I do think Louisville, as Kelsey and his staff were 209 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.960 well aware that they were probably not the leader. It was Indiana, and 210 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.080 Indiana got him, which is a big get, no doubt. But also 211 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.080 I think, and we'll see, I don't want to get I don't want 212 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.200 to get ahead of myself here. But Quaintance, the five star top ten 213 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:31.000 player who's visiting on Thursday. I mean, it sounds like Louisville could potentially 214 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.279 just you know, make an offering get him. I mean, I'm sure 215 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.759 others are going to mean, let's be real, Arkansas, they got money, 216 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.840 and we know that Cala Perry's gonna want to bring a Quaintance with him. 217 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.840 Jaden Quainton's who is the number eight player in America who was committed to 218 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.240 Kentucky until Cal left. So I still say that he's probably gonna end up 219 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.960 playing at Arkansas. But Louisll's getting the first visit, which I think for 220 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.240 transfers that seems to be pretty important for recruits. I really don't know. 221 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.639 And this guy is so good that he can take his time. Every program 222 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.120 that wants him will leave a spot open for him. Now where they leave 223 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.919 enough money available, that's a different question. So I think them being at 224 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.639 least involved here with Quaintans might have had a little bit of a you know, 225 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.840 I don't think it would have changed anything with Bollow, but it's just 226 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:16.440 nice to know that, Hey, you know, that was a guy you 227 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.399 were going to bring in for a visit. Things look good, you didn't 228 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.559 get him. Well, now you move on. Now you've got another guy 229 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.399 coming in totally different situation, right, And I'll be fair, I'll be 230 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.240 honest with you. I would have taken Bollow just because he's a more proven 231 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.559 guy. Quaints is a freshman. But they are totally different types of players. 232 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.000 And you know, you've even said John that you think that there's some 233 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.279 Indiana folks that aren't going to be super thrilled about Bollow because they don't like 234 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.639 the way, like, you know, because he's he's not a guy that 235 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.799 you run. I mean, he's a guy that is a big bull in 236 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.440 a China shop physical presence, and you know, he's not true hybrid big 237 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.519 that is more popular these days. One thing that has driven Indiana fans nuts 238 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.919 for the past couple of years is the buddy ball as they call it, 239 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.159 where Indiana runs two bigs. This year it's their last year, is Malik 240 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:00.960 renewing collel where in the trace Jackson Davis the year before and this year would 241 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.799 likely be Omar Balu and Malik renew So the big thing for Indiana is can 242 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:07.679 they get shooters to surround these big guys? I think yeah, But I 243 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:13.399 mean, I don't know. I just and I agree. I'm glad what 244 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.440 you said about Ballow not being the guy that you play through, because I 245 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.000 think that's been Indiana's number one issue is revolving your entire offense around the big 246 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.919 guys. Yeah, and I'm sure there's been plenty of production offensively from him, 247 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:30.440 where it is more of your traditional let's feed the big fella. But 248 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.120 I'd be willing to bet the vast majority the bulk of his production on the 249 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:39.879 glass, and from a scoring standpoint, I think it's him just being seven 250 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.159 foot, two hundred and sixty pounds and going and getting whatever points he needs 251 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.840 to get. In rebounding, I mean, that'd be great for Indiana because 252 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.440 they struggled to rebound the ball last year. I mean, he's a good 253 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.720 player. So and look that's he's a two time first team All Pack twelve 254 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:58.399 guy, was on the All Pack twelve defensive team twice. I mean twelve 255 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.639 points or thirteen points, I'm sorry to boards a game. I mean twenty 256 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.919 double doubles in his career. This guy is, I mean, he's special. 257 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:14.639 So Indiana, I think at times we and I say we meaning like 258 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.360 Louisville and Kentucky's honestly, they're not their a rival to Kentucky. And some 259 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.559 would say their arrival to Louisville just depending upon again, who you're around, 260 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:26.519 Like you know that kind of stuff. But Indiana has not had big time 261 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.279 success in a long long time in basketball. And I'm not telling anybody anything 262 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:34.960 that you don't already know. But I think it makes you at times forget 263 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:41.360 that they have one of the biggest fan bases in college basketball. They have 264 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:47.080 a I mean, they have a humongous alumni based too. We're talking rich, 265 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:48.639 successful people that don't live in Indiana, but they went to Indiana and 266 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:55.039 they care about it. So to hear that they are believed to be one 267 00:16:55.080 --> 00:17:00.639 of, if not the leaders in college basketball's nil may prize some but it 268 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.599 really doesn't surprise me. I mean, they've had a huge fan base and 269 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.880 they freaking care about basketball almost as much as anybody. Maybe you know, 270 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.480 maybe as much as anybody. I don't know. I mean, they just 271 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.279 haven't had the big breakthrough success for that to show on the national stage. 272 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.920 But here's what I know, Internet numbers. Right before I was able to 273 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.519 make radio my full time career, I used to run a website. Did 274 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.519 it for a long time. It was a lot of fun. I don't 275 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.640 really miss it, but it was it was you know, internet monetization, 276 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.279 web traffic like that's how I had to you know, it's how hustled. 277 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:33.839 I mean, it wasn't the only thing I did to make a living, 278 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.359 but it was part of it. And I know that Indiana numbers are insane 279 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.880 on the internet, Like inside the Hall is that still around? It is? 280 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.400 Yeah, I mean it was in It was one of the earlier websites 281 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.960 that that you know, was a little bit of ahead of its time and 282 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.079 the traffic that that website would do. And no offense to the guy running 283 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.319 it. I don't know. I don't frequent the site, but it wasn't 284 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.960 you know, because there was some like crazy compelling entertaining content. It was 285 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.960 just well done writing about Indiana basketball reporting on it. But a lot of 286 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.960 days now that just doesn't move the needle like you got to have, like 287 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.119 you gotta be doing entertaining stuff right because nobody's I mean, people aren't get 288 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.119 People can get any real notable information that they want on a social media app, 289 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.000 which is awful for the world of journalism. But that's just the way 290 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.519 it is. There's great journalistic work being done, but you cannot monetize it 291 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.279 in a way you used to, which is just sad. But Indiana fans, 292 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.200 man, they're everywhere, and I don't think that's like known as much 293 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:33.359 as as you would think. And let you know, maybe I'm wrong. 294 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:34.200 I mean you mentioned what did you share with me the other day. I 295 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.160 was about to bring that up so on the in the Burner Ball discord. 296 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:42.480 Well, that's that's Chillie Donovan's thing. The top two fan bases in their 297 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.960 discord channels. I guess I've never been on this on I don't know exactly 298 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:48.519 how it works, so I have it. I'll show you after the Okay 299 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.480 Show. But Kentucky's for just for example, they have fifty three, eight 300 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.319 hundred and forty seven messages that have been sent in their discord Indiana says eighty 301 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:03.000 four eighty six, four hundred forty six telling you that. I mean, 302 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.920 that's that's not something that's going to equate to anything successful for Indiana, but 303 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:11.400 it's just another reminder that, like, don't be surprised when they have money 304 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.839 available for NIL because not only do they have a huge fan base and I 305 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:21.599 think you know, people who grew up in Indiana that didn't go to IU 306 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.839 are still big Indiana fans, right, but also they have a humongous alumni 307 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.160 base, and I think they've got people who were probably that are probably very 308 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.400 successful. I mean not everybody, but I'm sure they have very wealthy alum 309 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.480 that are very successful in different business ventures, maybe not in Indiana, maybe 310 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.359 maybe abroad. I don't know, but maybe they were there at Indiana when 311 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:48.359 when Indiana was great, right, and they're they got money and they're starving 312 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:51.839 for Indiana to be great again at that level. So I don't know, 313 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.240 just one of those things. Whenever I saw Ballow being clearly the you know 314 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:59.680 in Indiana Leane, and I'm sure it wasn't just money, but I think 315 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.200 that'll be something that and maybe that's why there was some more Maybe that maybe 316 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.559 that is why there's more pressure on Woodson to win because you know, last 317 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.960 year they did well in the portal, but they ended up just missing out 318 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.440 on it. You know, I guess they they whiffed on on. Some 319 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:19.359 guys didn't get they didn't fill all their holes. He left a scholarship open, 320 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.880 and then you had a guy get injured, so you technically had two 321 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.000 scholarships open, if you think about it. And I think what Woodson did 322 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:27.599 that was that was just a risk that you take as a coach. Is 323 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.119 that I do believe that he you know, I say this like I know 324 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:36.119 Mike Woodson. I think he felt like there were going to be guards on 325 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.160 that team that would make a natural jump and they'd be able to do their 326 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:41.480 part and you all could win and play through renew and where and it just 327 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.799 didn't work out. And honestly, I'll retract at least some of the things 328 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:49.119 I'd said about, you know, in defensive Woodson. When you have that 329 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:56.039 kind of an nil situation, you shouldn't leave a scholarship open. I think 330 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.599 there's situations where it could happen. Maybe there was a situation there where they 331 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:00.720 thought they had somebody last minute, they didn't and they didn't just want to 332 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.759 burn it. But the only time I think this day and age where you 333 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.759 should leave scholarships open is when you're going through what Louisville and Kentucky are going 334 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.920 through is where they literally have to build an entire team. So anyways, 335 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.000 let's take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side talk about 336 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.079 the portal a little bit more, but on the football side. So some 337 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.119 I mean, got to keep in mind there are people that probably were on 338 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:25.119 their way to work today or popped open social media this morning and then have 339 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.720 been hard at it and have been able to update you. Some names you 340 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.759 saw that were entering the portal this morning are not entering the portal, and 341 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.200 it wasn't like a last minute change of heart. It was literally one of 342 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:38.279 the more credible writers in the recruiting world just being wrong and you know, 343 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.200 owning it like you don't typically see I mean, just basically blaming it. 344 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:44.759 Yeah, I got duped. I listened to a bad source or something. 345 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.039 So quick break, we'll come back, keep it rolling along again at his 346 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:48.400 Coffee and Company. We are a few about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk 347 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:55.519 seven ninety so. We were talking earlier about the Javonte Porter, the situation 348 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.960 in the NBA where they're investigating if he was, you know, in on 349 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.240 people make money on his player props, and the more you the more that 350 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.240 they have they've learned about his His gambling habits is he does a lot. 351 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.400 So this has nothing to do with that. But a little quick gambling update, 352 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:15.960 if you will. As far as how things are going in Kentucky since 353 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:19.440 we now can bet on sports legally, hasn't even been a full year. 354 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.599 In fact, I think it actually is right around a year when it got 355 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:23.759 passed and we knew it was going to happen. But keep in mind this 356 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.039 didn't start till what the end of August. I think it was you could 357 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.240 do it in time for college football. Yeah, you could do it in 358 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.839 person right around the time the season started, but I don't think it was 359 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.799 till the end of September until it was able to be done on on online. 360 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:45.519 But yeah, it's it's crazy. Kentucky's already exceeded the first year tax 361 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:52.039 estimate in five months, so from September to February. This is not in 362 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.480 count This does not include March when everybody bet on We'll get those numbers later, 363 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:57.000 but when everybody was betting on college basketball, which I'm sure a lot 364 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:03.359 of people around here made many wagers on college hoops. But the online handle, 365 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.880 which just means the online amount of money that was wagered one point three 366 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:12.480 billion dollars in the state of Kentucky was wagered online, so the online revenue 367 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:17.960 from that as one hundred and sixty three point eight million, and the tax 368 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.400 generated from online sports wagering in the state of Kentucky from September to February is 369 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:30.720 twenty three point three million dollars. Now the retail meaning in person betting just 370 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:37.759 a lot different handle meaning just the amount wagered fifty seven point three million revenue 371 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:45.400 five point six million. The tax generated from retail wagers made in Kentucky from 372 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.039 that time September to February was five hundred and forty three thousand dollars and some 373 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.799 change. So, you know, it confirmed what we already knew, which 374 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.640 is that everybody ever, you know, everybody who's gonna wager will do it 375 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.000 from the comfort of their own wherever because they're going to do it on their 376 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.960 phone. Although I do think, I do think there is still something that, 377 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.839 you know, I think there's something that can be can be said about 378 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.119 the experience of wagering at a place. I mean, it's not he's easy 379 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.839 to do, right, but I like going to a sports book and having 380 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.759 a day. But you know that I'm not in a position where I can 381 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:21.240 do that a whole lot. But when I do, it's a lot of 382 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:27.559 fun, all right. So on the transfer portal stuff for football, we 383 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.200 talked about it throughout the show. For those just now joining us. Brandon 384 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.559 Marcelo, who is one of the one of the top I think he's one 385 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:40.960 of the top reporters writers that covers college football recruiting and transfers and just I 386 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.400 mean, he's not really somebody that's just recruiting or just portal. He kind 387 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.119 of does everything for the folks at twenty four to seven Sports. But right 388 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.680 now he's done something that you don't often see, which is completely admit that 389 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.400 he got something way wrong. And earlier this morning he listed about five players 390 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.960 that we're going to be in the portal for Louisville, and you know he 391 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:04.039 was wrong. I'm not gonna read you his direct tweet again, but to 392 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:07.839 see somebody come out and just say, hey, I called Jeff Brahm to 393 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.160 apologize. You know, I'm big on credibility. This was on me. 394 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.839 You deserve an explanation rather than just a deleted tweet. So good on him. 395 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.000 You know, I think he You know, it doesn't happen very often 396 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.440 for for well, it probably happens often, but I don't think you often 397 00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.920 see a writer come out and just basically say they were duped and they were 398 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:30.519 they were wrong and make an apology. But either way, the guys that 399 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:37.640 are leaving Ruben Unjai probably not saying that correctly. That's a guy who transferred 400 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.920 from Houston on the old line and is now leaving. Jaden Davis, who 401 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.119 let me make sure I remember who. I mean, this is somebody I 402 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.640 don't want to act like these guys leaving you know who the hell needs them 403 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.880 or whatever. But yeah, Jade and Davis, let's see here. Is 404 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:59.119 that the name of the guy? Let me see here. I got my 405 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:00.440 names mixed up here. But I do you know the one name that everybody's 406 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.680 talked about more than anyone Else's Penny Boone? Who that is the Toledo transfer 407 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.880 from the Mac Who's all he was the Mac offensive player of the Year this 408 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:12.559 past year rush for I think over fourteen hundred yards at Toledo. Louisville landed 409 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.000 him over some other big schools in December. Never played it down for Louisville. 410 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.480 Obviously was here through the spring, and now he's leaving. And I 411 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.759 think a lot of things can be true here in regards to what happened. 412 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:27.960 One, if he's claiming it's because he wants more money and he didn't get 413 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.440 it, that could be true. I mean that's something only he would know 414 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:36.119 right as far as like what he wants as far as money. But I 415 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:41.200 do know that he was not leading the running backs in spring. But also 416 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.039 doesn't mean Louisville like is happy to see him leave. I think they want 417 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.039 depth and they like him a lot, but you know, he wasn't where 418 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.640 he wanted to be, so only he could truly give you the real reason 419 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:56.440 as to why he's leaving. But I don't know if I mean to me, 420 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.400 this could end up falling in one of the rare I mean, it's 421 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.640 actually not going to be that rare moving forward in my opinion. But like 422 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.799 somebody's in the portal and you want somebody to be mad at it, and 423 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.279 you want something that you want, you want to blame it on something or 424 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.359 somebody, And I don't really know who you blame it on, because you 425 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.480 know, if this guy wants more money and yet he can't end up getting 426 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.839 first or second on the depth chart in the spring, I don't know why 427 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.920 you would give him more money, right, And if he wants to leave 428 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:27.720 because you're not going to give him more money, then like what are you 429 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:37.079 gonna do? And if in fact, you know he feels as if he 430 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.720 was probably that he was misled again, that's only something he could he could 431 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:49.160 tell us. But the noise out there from random anonymous Twitter accounts at CFB 432 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:55.319 headlines or twenty four to seven Football, which again is not affiliated with twenty 433 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:56.359 four seven Sports, but they kind of want you to think that with their 434 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.920 Twitter handle. I mean, these are accounts that surprisingly are growing with thousands 435 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.759 upon thousands of followers. They buy the blue check and they don't have a 436 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.400 like if they don't even have like if you're if it's just a Twitter account 437 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.480 and there's no link to an actual entity or an organization, doesn't mean that 438 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.279 it's it's a it's a terrible Twitter account led by a terrible person, but 439 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:21.240 like it's not real. They're not someone who is legitimately, you know, 440 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:26.279 relied upon to share credible information. So I don't even know much about this 441 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.119 specific uh Twitter page, because I just I learned of it today. This 442 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.759 isn't one of the bigger ones either, by the way, uh John you 443 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.400 mentioned earlier, Like this isn't even one that like I've ever really seen before, 444 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.599 because there's a lot of them just like this, but this one is 445 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:47.640 uh let me see. CFB headlines is the name of it, and it 446 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:52.480 is running with screenshots that could easily be doctored, could easily be made up 447 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.400 that you know, that claim that Louisville's checks aren't clearing and they don't. 448 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.599 They don't have the money that they were, you know, know that they 449 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.799 claim to have when they're recruiting these players. And I mean, I have 450 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.920 no reason to think any of that is true. In fact, I have 451 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:11.079 good reason to believe that that's just a complete lie. Because nobody we shouldn't 452 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.279 say nobody, but the you know, the uh, the arrangement from the 453 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.160 from the collective, from what I understand, is not that you just get 454 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.400 paid a big chunk of money to come here. And I'm sure if you're 455 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.480 one of the elite players, maybe there is a certain arrangement made because if 456 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.319 you're somebody that is that is a big time portal edition, meaning you're costing 457 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.039 a lot of money, It's probably not done specifically through the collective. It's 458 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.599 probably done through somebody that is willing to put up some money to help or 459 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.119 make sure that you come to that school, rather that be a company or 460 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:48.160 just somebody that owns a company. So I don't know where that you know, 461 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.039 where that came from, but I do believe that you know, that's 462 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.960 just not true. But that's not to say that like anybody claiming like Louisville's 463 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.599 probably at some point going to lose players because they don't have the money that 464 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.559 another school has. Right, I think they can be really competitive. But 465 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:07.640 when it comes to who's who's gonna thrive with nil more than anyone else, 466 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.480 it's going to be the same programs that have thrived and dominated the sport since 467 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.519 the beginning, because that's how this works, right, The rich get richer 468 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.359 essentially. But Louisville, you know, they're in a unique spot to where 469 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:25.000 they could really take advantage of getting I mean they they could really thrive and 470 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.880 be a consistent top twenty caliber program in football. Kentucky can do the same 471 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.720 thing, to be honest with you, because there's gonna be guys coming out 472 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.720 of high school that go to Georgia, Bama, Michigan, Ohio State, 473 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.960 Texas, USC because that's where the elite high school kids go. And then 474 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.960 they're there for a year and you know what, they just can't crack second 475 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.359 string because they're going to a school that has all the players. And those 476 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.599 schools, by the way, you know, if you were a five star 477 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.440 and you know you cut your teeth as a red shirt freshman and you're looking 478 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.240 at a big jump the next year, well, those those that program you're 479 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.359 at. If they can go get a dude that's played three years in the 480 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.039 portal that is more ready than you and more proven, they're going to do 481 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.000 that. So if you can go get one of these guys that is that 482 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.839 is looking for a new opportunity because they just want to play, and you 483 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.359 also have nie all money that you can offer, you could be really good. 484 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.000 So you know, Jeff Brahm has continued to be able to bring in 485 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:29.599 players that actually are viewed as bigger additions than the guys they lost. Not 486 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.359 every time, I'm sure, but like that, I think he's he to 487 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:37.640 me, he has to me. He is somebody that is is just understood 488 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:38.720 that this is what it is. There's no changing it. So you know 489 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:45.920 what I'm gonna, You know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just accept it 490 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.839 and do what I got to do to get players and try to win. 491 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:55.680 So there's already one running back that they've reached out to that could potentially replace 492 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.839 Penny Boone who's leaving, and that is a I mean, this would be 493 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:06.519 insane. But Dallas Hayden, a running back for Ohio State. As a 494 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.640 freshman, he had over five hundred yards five touchdowns and then only played three 495 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:14.079 games last year I think because of some injuries. But Louisville is believed to 496 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.720 be involved here. Apparently they've already been in contact, you know, so 497 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:22.400 that would be huge. Indiana's got a running back that is transferring. What's 498 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.599 his name again, John Trenton Holland. He has an interesting or he's had 499 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.319 an interesting last few months. So when the season ended, he jumped in 500 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.160 the transfer portal. He committed to Minnesota. After Signetty was hired, he 501 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.359 came back to Indiana, went through spring ball, and now he's back in 502 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.799 the transfer portal again. Yeah. I mean those are guys that that that's 503 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.079 not somebody you would think would be a high priority. But I think you 504 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.480 are looking to just build depth here and if you could get him, then 505 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.000 maybe they'll take him. And this is gonna sound I mean, this is 506 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.599 a really homer thing of me to say, but you know, to be 507 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.240 clear, I'm pretty transparent with you guys. I'm a big fan of Jeff 508 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.480 Brohm. He needs talent. Every coach needs talent to win actually at the 509 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.039 high level, and we saw at times, especially when you played USC in 510 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.799 that Bowl game, like they just got dudes that you don't have, like 511 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.400 those dudes who were sitting behind starters at USC, but they're at USC and 512 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.799 Louisville Secondary got exposed in that game, and there were some other spots where 513 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.000 clearly, you know, they just looked way where they looked elite compared to 514 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.880 the talent that you had. So you know, it matters. But I 515 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.759 also think one of the reasons that Jeff Brom is a really you know, 516 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.359 one of the things that makes Jeff Brom a very well respected coach and a 517 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.119 successful coach is that from an offensive standpoint, it's not just about personnel. 518 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.640 I mean, I don't want to say he can plug anybody in off the 519 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:40.039 street and they would have success. But you know what Louisville's offense, and 520 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.920 it's not just Louisville's offense. He's coached here one year. Brom's offense from 521 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.519 top to bottom. At Western Kentucky and at Purdue. You know, there 522 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.960 were guys that weren't I mean, look at what Charlie Bakers at his name, 523 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:58.200 not Charlie Baker, Charlie Charlie Jones, the receiver for Purdue. This, 524 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.039 yeah, I mean, he that's a guy who was not good where 525 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.559 he was previously. I don't think like it was in Iowa. I mean 526 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.839 he was fine at Iowa. He wasn't. I mean, you plug him 527 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.000 into Jeff Brohms offense and he's crushing it. I mean he was ended up 528 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.079 being like a third round draft pick. So you know, I'm not going 529 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.960 to you know, lose my mind over certain offensive players that leave. Now, 530 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.039 if you end up having to just rely on walk ons and guys who 531 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.440 were really good for you and thrived and were excellent they then choose to leave, 532 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:28.400 then clearly that would be that would be a head scratcher. But I 533 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.199 think if you've got talent and some you know, some you know, good 534 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.039 pieces to work with, and honestly we learned last year like Louisville's offense was 535 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.079 fine, but the weakness was its quarterback. And yet they still were able 536 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:42.880 to score a lot of points and be very effective offensively. And I think 537 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.920 more than anything, that speaks to how you know, imagine what Jeff could 538 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.480 have done if he had a quarterback that was better than the guy he had, 539 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.159 which you know, Plumber I took up for him more than I think 540 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.000 most because you know, he did his role like louisll was able to win 541 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.159 ten games, but I'm aware also that there were games that they easily could 542 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.320 have lost, and if they did, it would have trickly been put on 543 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.039 him, fair or not. That's just how and sometimes it would have probably 544 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:08.480 been fair. So I just wonder if we're ever gonna get to the point, 545 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.320 and I think we are slowly getting there, but I wonder when we're 546 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:17.159 ever going to realize that, like sometimes portal losses are going to happen and 547 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.639 you have no one you can blame. I mean, it's just part of 548 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.159 it now because it's still new, all right. Speaking of portal Kentucky football 549 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.199 just lost a big addition that they landed in the winner. We'll tell you 550 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.320 that is on the other side right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety so, 551 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.800 we talked about Pitty Boon, the Louisville well, he transferred from Toledo 552 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:45.519 to Louisville in December or January something like that, probably December, and now 553 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.280 he's leaving. And he was one of the top pieces for Louisville's portal class, 554 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.960 although he wasn't, you know, at the very top, but one 555 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.440 of Kentucky's top guys that they added early in the offseason is now transferring as 556 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:02.960 well as Raymond cottrell transfer from Texas A and m who transferred to Kentucky is 557 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.360 now back in the Portal. So not sure if that means, you know, 558 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.760 he's not good enough to play there so he's leaving or what it was. 559 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:16.679 But it's this is this of all the madness and just circus that is 560 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:21.400 the portal and free agency and all this stuff. The guys who leave in 561 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:28.960 December and then leave again in April, like that's really stupid. There's just 562 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.000 hate saying that there's gonna be something that can keep that from happening. I 563 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:35.280 hate saying that they shouldn't be able to But that is one aspect of this 564 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.519 that I wish the athletes were unable to do, is just go from one 565 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.559 place to the next in a few months time. Yeah, because it's I 566 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:47.280 mean again, I just think it comes down to the NCAA but have a 567 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.320 tough time legally telling the kids that they can't do that. But I mean 568 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:57.559 it's impact. I mean, it's that's three four months essentially, and now 569 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.639 some coaches again for better or worse, like they it's just it really makes 570 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.960 I've always said I have very little sympathy for coaches who have to make adjustments. 571 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.280 But like, that's just stupid and and there's nothing I mean, that's 572 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.840 just stupid and there's really nothing you can do about it, just like there's 573 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.920 no way that I mean, guess yeah, I'm sure that you can. 574 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.960 If you land in the right spot, it will benefit you. But hopping 575 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.840 around from place to place, it feels like more often than not, you're 576 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.000 you're not doing well in your football or basketball career. And look, you 577 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:28.559 said it perfectly right there, and it gives me a chance to kind of 578 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.440 jump right on and carry that even further. Because it's a cutthroat world. 579 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.079 Players or coaches know they got to get players, they got to win. 580 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.239 They need talent, they need talent. But there's no doubt about it. 581 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.880 If you transferre to somewhere mid season, and you know, mid mid year, 582 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.400 after your season ended, and you're transferring again four months later, no 583 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.719 matter how you slice it, that's a bad look on you. I Mean, 584 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.679 there are some exceptions where clearly you know maybe you were misled or maybe 585 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.480 you're transferring because you just simply know that you like you're you humbled. But 586 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.440 I mean that also isn't a good look that you like, you're running from 587 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.880 competition after spring, you know, So these guys will still get recruited because 588 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.400 everybody's going to try to have an edge and talent and all that stuff. 589 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.800 But I mean, I am surprised that there are this many guys that have 590 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.800 that have left. Like for example, Storm Duck was a North Carolina defensive 591 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:22.360 back. He transferred in December of twenty twenty two to Louisville. I'm sorry 592 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.360 to Penn State. Well then at Penn State, you know, I guess 593 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.599 he couldn't crack the depth charts, so he transferred Louisville. At Louisville, 594 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.360 he was not a guy that you really wanted to me. He made some 595 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.679 plays here and there, but like he was one of the guys that I 596 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.159 think, you know was an issue for you, right, Like not to 597 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.280 say he was a terrible player, but like you knew you needed to be 598 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.199 better at that spot. So you know, he probably saw that at Penn 599 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.280 State left there. So I mean, again, coaches are going to take 600 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.639 these kind of guys. But I would be willing to bet more often than 601 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.719 not the dudes who do this exact thing. It ain't money it's thinking they 602 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.840 were going to be a star somewhere and in the spring they got humbled. 603 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.920 I think that is more often than not why that happens. All right, 604 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.519 quick break, we'll come back here on. Actually, we're gonna take a 605 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:07.960 twenty one hour break. We'll be back tomorrow at three o'clock